[07:16] pleia2, hmm, i thought you don't sleep [07:23] ugh - smooth scroll enabled in newest firefox - disabling [10:12] knome: She doesn't, she just occasionally hibernates. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:13] mmh [10:13] astraljava, any plans for thursday? [10:14] Nothing yet, but I'm not sure on which day I'll take the foreign guest out for dinner. [10:16] k [10:16] follow-up on me when you do know [10:16] Sure, what did you have in mind? [10:16] we're planning to play NHL on PS3 [10:16] Hahah! [10:17] we're at 4 people right now. :) [10:17] (and we have 5 controllers) [10:17] * astraljava looks at the channel name and thinks whether this is a proper one for this :D [10:17] it is! [10:17] ;) [10:17] very much the proper channel O:) [10:18] But anyway, I'll let you know. :) Now, then. How do I find info on a nickserv account? I'd want to see when a user has last logged in. [10:18] no idea [10:18] astraljava: /msg NickServ info nickname [10:19] Danke! [10:19] ;) [10:33] * astraljava is slightly amused by a user complaining about an operating system, while boasting about having written critical software for a stock market company, and failing to properly comment a block in his .sig file... [10:44] heh [10:46] -users ML has become a circus [10:46] brb [10:46] or, sometime [10:46] let's see [16:36] pfft, I love sleep [16:37] also, doing the Xubuntu section of the flavors class for User Days on the 24th and an "Everything you wanted to know about Xubuntu" talk for a LUG next month [16:38] * pleia2 also told them she'd show off 4.10 at the LUG [17:23] Hah, /me read that as 'sod off'. [17:55] pleia2, if you need help doing that kind of stuff, ask for help :) [17:56] I think I will for the "everything you wanted to know" one, I'll give some nudges when I flesh out my notes more :) [17:56] good [17:57] you have a minute, or you busy? [17:57] I have time now [17:57] good, i'll PM again :) [17:57] (running out to a LUG meeting in 15 minutes or so) [17:57] k [18:25] hi everyone [18:26] hey ochosi [18:26] i've been continuing to work on the breadcrumbs btw [18:26] :) [18:26] i made the active and hovered state also look like an arrow [18:26] it's a tad more consistent [18:27] otherwise hovering changes the button-size [18:27] i've been continuing to work on different breads, they've been more and less yummy [18:27] which can be unexpected [18:27] hmm, nice [18:27] ;)= [18:40] ochosi, so, anything else new? [18:40] i'm also working actively on the panel [18:40] good! [18:40] but i'm not sure which way to go with it [18:40] haven't found a style/direction i'm really satisfied with [18:41] actually the lack of padding between the window-buttons concerns me [18:41] mmhmm? [18:41] well atm it looks like a chain of strings separated by icons [18:41] that is less than ideal [18:41] heh [18:42] i suppose so yeah... [18:43] one more thing i'd like to fix is the behavior with semi-transparent panels [18:43] what's with that? [18:44] i want a selected-state of buttons that works with all kinds of semi-transparent backgrounds ideally [18:44] i'm not sure i follow [18:44] i'm also considering to move away from the flat-button look a bit [18:44] well if you have a semi-transparent, dark panel and a blue background, then a dark-blue selected state won't be very visible [18:44] moved to flat buttons in gtk but wanting to go away from flat buttons in panel? hmm.. [18:45] well, "flat" buttons [18:45] they're not really flat, just shadow-less [18:45] ;) [18:45] i could imagine a similar style for the panel-buttons [18:45] hmm. i'm not sure if i'd like that [18:45] maybe on selected, but not inactive [18:45] inactive windows will most likely stay flat [18:46] good [18:46] in fact that's a property setting of the panel [18:46] :) [19:02] are you still opposed to semi-transparent panels? [19:02] i won't use them myself, but if they are default.. well maybe. [19:02] we'd have to have a good disussion about this on the meeting [19:03] i mean, is it ok to enable compositor by default anyway [19:03] (both yes/no worksforme, but i'd like to know what others think) [19:03] there haven't really been any complaints about it [19:03] so i'm not sure it's a problem [19:04] the setting for that is rather hidden though [19:04] no, but otoh, many users want to disable it [19:04] which could be both an argument for enabling or disabling it [19:04] yes, otoh it's easy to do toggle, but yes, it's quite hidden [19:04] good docs would fix that though [19:04] good docs or a slide at the installation slideshow [19:05] mhm [19:05] i think we might want to review the slideshow this cycle for real [19:05] hehe [19:05] really add some new stuff, maybe tweak the style just a notch [19:06] but that comes with the new docs [19:06] yeah, different information might be good [19:06] not just default apps [19:06] i've added a work item to the blueprint [19:07] k [19:33] micahg: hey, any idea whether gegl works without libavcodec? (I think ffmpeg libs are banned from ubuntu isos, and libgegl depends on libavcodec53, I guess that's what has been breaking our dailies for some time) [19:33] otherwise we'll kick gimp from the default install [19:34] mr_pouit: we were talking about removing it so we could demote libav and solve the libav/libav-extra split [19:39] mr_pouit: also, I think it was just banned from pressed media, not ISOs in general [21:08] knome: starting to explore some palettes on colourlovers.com btw [21:10] there are really nice palettes there [21:11] ochosi, aha, good luck :) [21:11] have you used that page/portal before? [21:11] well yeah, it's easy to create a good looking palette, much harder to create a working palette [21:11] sure [21:11] i've used at least something similar, but never used any of the palettes [21:11] this one looks a bit like greybird: http://www.colourlovers.com/palette/2222351/Feeling_Blue [21:11] it could be useful for re-coloring the menus etc [21:12] maybe [21:13] bbl, maybe tomorrow [21:14] hf/nighty [21:14] alright [21:14] seeya