[00:14] <drezabek94> How can I determine what driver kubuntu is using with my wifi adapter? It is having issues connecting on Kubuntu, but it works fine on other linux distros (even Lubuntu)
[00:18] <mydogsnameisrudy> drezabek94:  you can try sudo lshw
[00:19] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmm dont see driver tho so might not help ya
[00:20] <drezabek94> mydogsnameisrudy I read about lsusb, maybe that one?
[00:20] <drezabek94> (I am on win7, because Kubuntu woulnd't connect
[00:20] <mydogsnameisrudy> oh hmmm
[00:20] <mydogsnameisrudy> its a usb wireless
[00:21] <drezabek94> mydogsnameisrudy: yeah, the online man page for lsusb also lists usbview
[00:24] <drezabek94> hmm, and according to the ubuntu wiki, support looks grim, which is odd because it worked for install and on lubuntu...
[00:24] <mydogsnameisrudy> what are you running 12.04?
[00:24] <drezabek94> yes I am
[00:25] <drezabek94> *worked on lubuntu 12.04 installed, and ubuntu 12.04 live disk
[00:28] <drezabek94> well, I copied down a few of those commands, going to go test them out, be connected to irc via mobile device
[00:28] <mydogsnameisrudy> ok im looking
[00:34] <drezabek-mobile> shoot, well usbview didnt work... and lsusb was useless
[00:35] <mydogsnameisrudy> do you know what card you have
[00:36] <drezabek-mobile> TP-Link TL-WN722N
[00:37] <mydogsnameisrudy> alot of thing going on with 12.04 and wireless so , im not the one to help you , hope someone else comes on to jump in on this
[00:38] <drezabek-mobile> yeah,  i click on the network and it says "waiting for authentication" for a few minutes, and then fails to connect
[00:38] <mydogsnameisrudy> have you tryed asking on #ubuntu
[00:38] <drezabek-mobile> ok, thanks for you help anyways! :)
[00:38] <mydogsnameisrudy> yep hope you get it
[00:39] <drezabek-mobile> heres the thing, it worked fine on Lubuntu, and Ubuntu live disk... so maybe i will just reinstall kubutu and try again?
[00:39] <mydogsnameisrudy> well live cd worked?
[00:40] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmmm dont get that
[00:40] <mydogsnameisrudy> did you update and upgrade?
[00:40] <mydogsnameisrudy> oh you cant dang
[00:40] <mydogsnameisrudy> sorry
[00:40] <mydogsnameisrudy> ;)
[00:40] <FloodBotK1> mydogsnameisrudy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:41] <drezabek-mobile> well it connected once after first installing it, but havent been able to since unless i try for half an hour
[00:41] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmmm dont get that at all
[00:43] <drezabek-mobile> yeah, i made a question on ask ubuntu ten hours ago, but no reply
[00:43] <mydogsnameisrudy> no try /join #ubuntu
[00:44] <mydogsnameisrudy> ask there
[00:45] <drezabek-mobile> wait, maybe its a bug with kde wallet?
[00:46] <drezabek-mobile> i just reset my wallet, and now it just fails immediately?
[00:47] <mydogsnameisrudy> !wireless
[00:50] <drezabek> Yeah, I already looked at wifidocs, but I think I will reinstall kubuntu (didn't have anything on there anyways) and if it STILL doesn't work, I will proceed to #ubuntu
[00:53] <drezabek> anyways, i have to go now, thanks for all your help mydogsnameisrudy!
[02:32] <Linkmaster> are there any 'talk to' softwares for linux? like, speak into your mic, and it types into libre office or whatever?
[02:50] <jackrepeat> somebody
[02:50] <jackrepeat> test ok ,thx
[04:29] <Daskreech> Simon maybe?
[04:31] <Yankees52> i love kubuntu
[04:31] <Daskreech> Yankees52: WooHoo!
[05:43] <darbe> hi
[05:43] <darbe>  cpp-4.6 : Depends: gcc-4.6-base (= 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) but 4.6.3-4 is installed
[05:43] <darbe> do you have any idea?
[06:41] <mah454> what is default package in kubuntu livecd ?
[06:45] <susundberg> mah454: i do not understand your question. i understand packages as single software / library packets
[06:45] <susundberg> or do you mean that what all programs are installed by default if one uses livecd?
[06:46] <mah454> susundberg, yes
[06:52] <susundberg> mah454: see: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/quantal-desktop-i386.manifest
[06:53] <susundberg> mah454: page found from: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[07:07] <FlashDeluxe> hi! i upgraded my kubuntu from ocelot to pangolin and now my xserver/kde doesn`t work. If i start the computer i get a login window on a blue background and if i login, i only get a xterm and that blue background. i can choose between different themes, such as kubuntu-plasma, ubuntu-standard etc. but that doesn`t change anything. So what can i do?
[07:42] <robinp> I am having some issues with the Vbox guest additions, specifically not seeing the cursor, with Kubuntu 12.04 running on an OS X host. Anyone else run into this issue?
[07:55] <silicon56> can anybody guide me where to find the microcontroller channel ?
[08:18] <FlashDeluxe> hi! i got a messed up system, because my kdm doesn`t work. in the auth.log i see: pam_ck_connector(kdm:session): nox11 mode in kubuntu 12.04, this happened after an upgrade from 11.04. Does anybody got a suggestion?
[08:21] <usr> русскоязычные есть?
[08:29] <root______> hi
[08:29] <root______> hello
[08:48] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:47] <jtheuer> does konqueror support client certificates?
[10:11] <dataphreak> anyone have experience with rtl8188ru wifi chipset?
[10:16] <dappermuis> i know this is a bit of a random and unclear question. But both Kmail and Thunderbird have been unable to retrieve email for a few weeks now (possibly since after an update). I've checked and double-checked the imap settings and they're right. I use the same settings on my phone with no problem. So, I was wondering, is there some underlying configuration that could be causing my imap retrieval to break? A bit weird of a question, I
[10:16] <dappermuis> know, but I'm not sure what else it could be
[10:17] <lordievader> dappermuis: It could perhaps be a firewall blocking the port.
[10:18] <dappermuis> lordievader: you mean outgoing? this could explain it I guess since it works from my cellphone
[10:18] <lordievader> dappermuis: Quite strange to block an outgoing port, but it could be.
[10:19] <dappermuis> lordievader: it wouldn't be incoming though, right? since I'm polling the server
[10:20] <dappermuis> lordievader: could it be a certificate issue?
[10:21] <lordievader> dappermuis: Actually the imap port is server side, it can be anything on the client side... Usually a firewall is set up to allow outgoing.
[10:21] <lordievader> dappermuis: Do you have a firewall running?
[10:21] <lordievader> dappermuis: Perhaps, have you used the automatic wizard offered by thunderbird?
[10:22] <dappermuis> lordievader: i don't have a firewall wizard that i'm aware of
[10:23] <dappermuis> lordievader: yes, tried it...no luck, it takes a while and then asks e to manually configure
[10:23] <dappermuis> lordievader: could anything have automatically installed a firewall that i'm not aware of?
[10:23] <lordievader> dappermuis: Does he give an error?
[10:23] <dappermuis> lordievader: not that i remember, i can run it again to see
[10:25] <lordievader> dappermuis: Please do so.
[10:27] <dappermuis> lordievader: still looking up configuration...
[10:30] <dappermuis> lordievader: "Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account"
[10:30] <dappermuis> lordievader: interestingly, i can't even ping the server...though when i try ping from a remote location it works
[10:30] <dappermuis> lordievader: so there must be something in my configuration...
[10:31] <lordievader> dappermuis: What email service are you using? Gmail, your isp or something else?
[10:31] <dappermuis> lordievader: my institutional email
[10:31] <dappermuis> lordievader: from my university
[10:32] <lordievader> dappermuis: I see. And pinging the server fails? Could you do a nslookup to the domain?
[10:33] <dappermuis> lordievader: pinging it fails from my machine. But when I use an online ping test, it works. So something somewhere is blocking it
[10:35] <lordievader> dappermuis: That is why I ask if a nslookup also fails.
[10:35] <dappermuis> lordievader: that works
[10:35] <dappermuis> interestingly, i can't ping my university at all
[10:36] <dappermuis> lordievader: www.uct.ac.za
[10:36] <dappermuis> ping www.uct.ac.za
[10:36] <dappermuis> PING srvslsweb001.uct.ac.za (137.158.158.44) 56(84) bytes of data.
[10:36] <dappermuis> 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2000ms
[10:36] <FloodBotK1> dappermuis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:36] <dappermuis> thought i could get away with 3 lines ;)
[10:37] <lordievader> dappermuis: Could you run "nslookup www.uct.ac.za" ?
[10:37] <lordievader> dappermuis: A ping from here also fails.
[10:38] <dappermuis> lordievader: a ping from http://www.iwebtool.com/ping?domain=www.uct.ac.za works
[10:38] <mydogsnameisrudy> www.uct.ac.za
[10:38] <mydogsnameisrudy> Server:         4.2.2.2
[10:38] <mydogsnameisrudy> Address:        4.2.2.2#53
[10:38] <mydogsnameisrudy> Non-authoritative answer:
[10:38] <mydogsnameisrudy> www.uct.ac.za   canonical name = srvslsweb001.uct.ac.za.
[10:38] <FloodBotK1> mydogsnameisrudy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:38] <dappermuis> lordievader: nslookup http://paste.ubuntu.com/1035259/
[10:41] <lordievader> dappermuis: Ok on their end the port 143 (imap) is open, what are the settings you use in thunderbird, could you show a screenshot?
[10:42] <lordievader> !paste | dappermuis
[10:43] <dappermuis> lordievader: can you check what ports are open on imap.cs.uct.ac.za
[10:43] <dappermuis> lordievader: uct.ac.za is just my institution...i'm in the CS department
[10:44] <lordievader> dappermuis: You could download zenmap to do portscanning (zenmap is a gui for nmap)
[10:45] <dappermuis> lordievader: ok, will do. This doesn't make much sense though...since i'm successfully connecting on port 993 on my android handset
[10:45] <lordievader> dappermuis: 993 is imap with ssl encryption, have you enabled ssl in thunderbird?
[10:46] <dappermuis> under the settings you mean?
[10:46] <dappermuis> account settings...yes
[10:46] <lordievader> dappermuis: With the account settings.
[10:48] <dappermuis> lordievader: i have. Could there be anything else causing the problem? I know the mail server works and I know the port works...it just doesn't work on my Kubuntu installation. Could there be a setting somewhere or could I have broke something such that it doesn't work?
[10:49] <lordievader> dappermuis: Could you run "nmap -p 993 137.158.158.44", you might need to install nmap...
[10:52] <dappermuis> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1035277/
[10:52] <lordievader> dappermuis: Ok so you should just be able to connect to it, there is no firewall blocking it, else the nmap wouldn't see the port.
[10:53] <lordievader> dappermuis: Perhaps the terminal can give you a hint, run thunderbird from the terminal and run the thunderbird wizard again.
[10:54] <dappermuis> lordievader: ah ok, will try that... will post a screenshot if it doesn't give any insight
[11:19] <BluesKaj> hey all
[11:23] <silicon56> has any one used the mcu8051ide?
[11:26] <BluesKaj> silicon56, and what is that? ..quoting model numbers hardly works ..describe your problem in plain english please
[11:30] <Daskreech> Hi BluesKaj
[11:31] <Daskreech> !anyone
[11:31] <BluesKaj> hey Daskreech
[11:34] <silicon56> it is an  ide for microcontrollers
[11:37] <Daskreech> silicon56: Yes it is
[11:56] <silicon56> has any body used it i need to discuss it
[11:58] <Daskreech> silicon56: I don't know. you could discuss it here but I suppose you could also find a  more microcontroller oriented room
[11:58] <Daskreech> Either works
[11:58] <Daskreech> Or both :)
[11:59] <BluesKaj> silicon56, I've never seen anyone discuss mcus here
[12:36] <dappermuis> lordievader: it turned out there was a bad line in my /etc/hosts. Removing it and restarting fixed the problem...I was messing with the hosts file a few weeks ago, which would explain it
[12:36] <dappermuis> lordievader: thanks for the help though, it helped me rule out possible causes and pointed me in the right direction
[12:44] <Daskreech> yay for not backing up the hosts file before messing with it
[12:45] <dappermuis_> :/
[13:07] <lordievader> dappermuis_: Great that you can get email again :)
[13:08] <dappermuis_> lordievader: indeed :) Unfortunately, KMail2 still remains horribly broken :/
[13:08] <dappermuis_> upgrading to 4.8.4 now...hopefully that fixes some things
[13:09] <lordievader> dappermuis_: Kmail is not something I use, last time I tried it would crash on launch. I decided to just stick with Thunderbird.
[13:09] <dappermuis_> lordievader: ya, KMail2 is horribly broken...KMail1 was amazing though. I don't know why they decided to "downgrade" it...
[13:10] <BluesKaj> dappermuis_, don't hold your breath
[13:10] <dappermuis_> lordievader: I prefer to use Kmail because of the akonadi-google package
[13:10] <dappermuis_> lordievader: it integrates really well with Kontact
[13:10] <BluesKaj> t-bird imports gmail accts
[13:11] <dappermuis_> BluesKaj: ha! ok...I won't...maybe by the end of the year it will be usable
[13:11] <dappermuis_> BluesKaj: does it integrate contacts, calendar and tasks as well? Last time I checked it didn't
[13:13] <BluesKaj> dappermuis_, don't think so , but I'm a home user , so i don't have hundreds of contacts etc , so t-bird does what i need
[13:14] <dappermuis_> BluesKaj: fair enough...I work on multiple machines and sometimes on the go, so syncronizing via google makes a lot of sense for me...especially when i can sync with kontact
[13:15] <dappermuis_> BluesKaj: ah...bug 298861 was fixed :D that was one of my pet peeves
[13:15] <BluesKaj> i just export contacts from chrome ..it used to be my fav browser , but google is becoming too invasive for my liking ...t-bird and FF integrate fairly well
[13:16] <dappermuis_> as is bug 300013...another thing that really bugged me
[13:17] <dappermuis_> BluesKaj: hmmm...ja, i haven't used FF in a while. It used to be way too slow...but I hear it's improved a lot. I've just become very comfortable with chromium I guess
[13:22] <BluesKaj> dappermuis_, I use a large monitor and chromium tab fonts aren't adjustable ...they're unreadable .. googles's negelect borders on arrogance  IMO
[13:23] <BluesKaj> BRB , just upgraded to 4.8.4
[14:09] <ed1276> hi pls help me, I have nvidia gt540m graphics card, I downloaded and installed drivers from nvida website only to discover that linux is not suported, now my laptops resolution is 640x480 and I cant change it back, howe do I select/use the default drivers that came with kde instead of nvidia?
[14:19] <lordievader> ed1276: How did you try to install the drivers exactly?
[14:19] <ed1276> I downloaded the .run file from nvidia website, then had to stop xserver (ctrl alt f1 service kdm stop) then run the .run file
[14:20] <lordievader> ed1276: Yes and there did you get any errors?
[14:21] <ed1276> no, i dont think so, it installed fine, but then it asked me to reboot, after rebooting resolution dropped
[14:21] <lordievader> ed1276: Can you change the resolution in, what was it called, nvidia-xconfig?
[14:22] <lordievader> ed1276: Somewhere in the system category of the menu, I think.
[14:22] <rethus> on 12.04 i have mic input anymore#
[14:23] <ed1276> when I start nvidia x server settings it says "you do not apper to be using nvidia drivers, plese run your x config file and restart the x server
[14:24] <ed1276> there are no options to change the resolution
[14:25] <ed1276> I restart the x server but nothing changes
[14:25] <lordievader> ed1276: Ok could you run, sudo nvidia-xconfig?
[14:26] <ed1276> this is what i got:
[14:26] <ed1276> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[14:26] <ed1276> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as
[14:26] <ed1276> '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[14:26] <ed1276> New X configuration file written to
[14:26] <FloodBotK1> ed1276: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:26] <ed1276> '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[14:27] <lordievader> ed1276: After doing that logout, and log back in.
[14:28] <ed1276> ok
[14:29] <ed1276> yeah, no change
[14:29] <rethus> sound works in kubuntu, but bot the mic input. any idea, why
[14:29] <rethus> try all settings in pavucontroll for mic1, mic2 line and others
[14:30] <lordievader> ed1276: You still get the error in the nvidia x server thing?
[14:30] <ed1276> yeah, it says the same thing
[14:30] <ed1276> you do not appeat to be using nvidia driver
[14:31] <ed1276> thing is Ive given up on nvidia, I am trying to get the intagrated graphics workirg (like it didi before, but how do I do that?
[14:32] <lordievader> ed1276: What you could do is remove the nvidia driver and install the driver through jockey(-kde)
[14:32] <lordievader> ed1276: But since I do not use an nvidia gfx I do not know how to remove the driver.
[14:33] <ed1276> how do I install driver through jockey?
[14:33] <ed1276> and which driver?
[14:35] <lordievader> ed1276: Have you removed the old one?
[14:36] <ed1276> not yet, I am trying to find out how
[14:37] <ed1276> in my /etc/X11/ folder I found xorg.conf and xorg.conf.backup
[14:37] <lordievader> ed1276: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/problems-with-xorg-conf-and-nvidia-drivers-881373/#post4455545
[14:38] <ed1276> ok ill try this one
[14:40] <ed1276> it says NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.53.run: command not found
[14:41] <ikonia> do it in the same dir as the file
[14:42] <ed1276> yeah ive done that
[14:42] <lordievader> ed1276: The .run file is refering to the driver you've downloaded.
[14:42] <lordievader> ed1276: make it ./Nvidia....run --uninstall
[14:43] <ed1276> ok so there appeared a file "unist" in that directory
[14:46] <ed1276> this is what the file "unist" says  paste.kde.org/497342/
[14:46] <ed1276> what do I do now
[14:48] <ed1276> ok so the problem is there is no netroot in recovery menu, ive tried rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf and i think it may have worked but then Icouldnt donwload the new package (apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-glx)
[14:49] <lordievader> ed1276: Use sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx
[14:51] <ed1276> this is what i got http://paste.kde.org/497348/
[14:52] <lordievader> ed1276: Then make it: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx
[14:54] <ed1276> ok, http://paste.kde.org/497354/
[14:55] <lordievader> ed1276: That seems allright, after it has finished reboot, and you should get your basic driver back.
[14:55] <ed1276> do I reboot now?
[14:55] <lordievader> ed1276: i.e. non-nvidia driver.
[14:55] <lordievader> ed1276: After it has finished, if you get the promt back.
[14:55] <ed1276> yeah that was it
[14:56] <lordievader> ed1276: Then reboot your machine. Do you have a spare machine btw?
[14:56] <ed1276> I do
[14:57] <lordievader> ed1276: Worst case senario, the mesa driver fails and you end up at a promt you can use to secondary machine to get to this channel, then you can get some help.
[14:57] <ed1276> ok im rebooting now
[15:01] <ed1276> no, no success
[15:01] <ed1276> its still the same
[15:01] <lordievader> ed1276: You mean the low resolution? Could you change that in the system settings?
[15:02] <ed1276> no cant, there is only one setting (640x480)
[15:03] <lordievader> ed1276: I see, well open the jockey, menu -> Applications -> System -> Additional Drivers
[15:03] <lordievader> And install the recommended driver.
[15:04] <ed1276> it says "no proprietary drivers are in use in this system"
[15:05] <lordievader> ed1276: That is correct, but it should give you a few options on installing them.
[15:05] <lordievader> ed1276: And one is recommended.
[15:05] <ed1276> no the boxes are blank
[15:06] <lordievader> ed1276: Could you show a screenshot?
[15:06] <lordievader> !paste | ed1276
[15:07] <ed1276> http://imagebin.org/215951
[15:11] <lordievader> ed1276: What is the output of the command: sudo lspci |grep VGA?
[15:12] <Mirrakor> hey, can somebody using kmail do me a favor? If you have a mailinglist subscribed, could you do a rightclick on a mail from the ML and select "create filter" -> "Mailinglist" and tell me by what it filters? (I'm on a different notebook here and the 'Create filter by mailinglist' option is disabled here, but I'm pretty sure that it used to work on my last kubuntu installation ...
[15:12] <ed1276> http://paste.kde.org/497390/
[15:14] <lordievader> ed1276: Is your OS 32 or 64 bit?
[15:14] <ed1276> 64 bit
[15:16] <lordievader> ed1276: Then according to the nvidia site you need this driver: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/45533 I guess this is the same one you tried earlier, but try to download it again and install it.
[15:17] <lordievader> ed1276: Install it, after you've disabled the kdm, with: sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.59.run (assuming you are in the right folder)
[15:18] <Yankees52> is kubuntyu dead?
[15:18] <ed1276> ok downloading
[15:18] <ikonia> Yankees52: no
[15:18] <lordievader> Yankees52: Why would you think that?
[15:18] <Yankees52> then why dosent canonical sponser it?
[15:18] <ikonia> Yankees52: ask canonical
[15:19] <Yankees52> who sponsers it then?
[15:20] <ikonia> Yankees52: no-one
[15:21] <Yankees52> oh wait! blue systems does
[15:22] <Yankees52> is it possible to downgrade to kde 3.5?
[15:24] <Yankees52> i love kubuntu fuck unity, what the hell is wrong with ubuntu lately?
[15:24] <Tm_T> Yankees52: please watch your language
[15:24] <lordievader> Yankees52: No need to use foul language
[15:24] <Tm_T> also this is not a place for rants
[15:24] <Yankees52> oh sorry
[15:25] <Yankees52> where can i rant?
[15:25] <Tm_T> Yankees52: on your own blog/channel
[15:26] <RichiH> Tm_T: mind pasting me what he said in pm?
[15:26] <Mirrakor> Yankees52: At a conference (:
[15:26] <Tm_T> RichiH: on PM please if it's not on the channel topic
[15:26] <Tm_T> in
[15:27] <Yankees52> will kubuntu get kde 4.8.4?
[15:28] <Tm_T> yes
[15:28] <Yankees52> will we see it in 12.04? if so when?
[15:29] <Tm_T> Yankees52: when it's ready
[15:29] <Yankees52> ok but 12.04 will get it?
[15:29] <Tm_T> yes
[16:10] <rethus> sound works in kubuntu, but bot the mic input. any idea, why? try all settings in pavucontroll for mic1, mic2 line and others
[16:32] <mokush> the kubuntu beta ppa seems to have stuff from 2012? does this contain kde beta 2?
[16:45] <mokush> oh, just read somewhere that betas will go into staging? is this so? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging
[17:08] <lordievader> Good evening
[18:10] <VirtualBlackness> I seem to have broken network manager
[18:12] <VirtualBlackness> KDE splash says waiting for network configuration, then waiting up to 60 seconds for networking... something to that effect. I tried uninstalling/reinstalling... which just seemed to take a way the red  x icon indicating that network mgr is borked where my wireless doodad used to be.
[18:13] <VirtualBlackness> 1204.
[18:19] <VirtualBlackness> reinstalled the plasma widget.
[18:25] <Shura_> Hi dudes
[18:25] <Shura_> I installed project-neon-all to test kde 4.9 ans now i'd like to remove it.
[18:25] <Shura_> How can i do ?
[18:38] <lordievader> Shura_: On this forum: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?36189-Project-Neon/page8 it says to do sudo apt-get remove kde-nightly
[18:44] <nasserash_> hello all, I'm having an issue with Krunner, when I type, for example, 111 F to C, it dosn't convert 111 Fahrenheit to celsius. I know it used to do just fine.
[18:46] <lordievader> nasserash_: I need to add an =, but I get the result in Kelvin...
[18:46] <nasserash_> lordievader: I don't think u need to put "="
[18:48] <lordievader> nasserash_: Without it, it won't do anything here either.
[18:49] <nasserash_> lordievader: yup, it used to work just fine tho. I just tried Pardus 2011.2 which I think has KDE 4.6 and it worked without the "="
[18:50] <nasserash_> according to this, it should work http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/Krunner#Calculator
[18:52] <lordievader> nasserash_: I see, strange. Let's see if I am missing packages.
[18:53] <nasserash_> lordievader: yeah I think it's a missing package or something
[18:54] <lordievader> nasserash_: It's probably the plasma-runners-addons package.
[18:55] <nasserash_> lordievader: will try that
[18:55] <lordievader> nasserash_: Installed it, enabled a few plugins, hit apply, and it worked. For me at least.
[18:57] <nasserash_> lordievader: Thanks a lot :) Indeed it was missing that package
[18:58] <lordievader> nasserash_: No problem :)
[19:57] <alt1231> as far as installing drivers..if my motherboard company dint make linux drivers do i just go with what is installed?
[19:58] <lordievader> alt1231: Most things work right out of the box, the linux kernel has many drivers built in. I recommend running a live-cd to see and test if everything is working.
[19:58] <alt1231> it does i was just curiu if had to install anything
[19:59] <alt1231> curious
[19:59] <alt1231> i know my display adapter i have to the generic dont work so well with high graphics for this card
[20:00] <alt1231> i just wanted to double check about the motherboard drivers
[20:00] <lordievader> alt1231: True, it is usually benefitial to install gfx drivers.
[20:00] <lordievader> alt1231: On my 3 boxes all I had to install where the gfx drivers.
[20:02] <alt1231> ah k thans for the info
[20:30] <devilchaos> hi im having problems with k3b specifically permissions with cdrdao and growisofs and dont seem to know what i have done could someone help me sort the permissions out please?
[20:35] <qbit> devilchaos: have you tried settings -> setup system permissions menu item in K3b?
[20:37] <qbit> devilchaos: anything that needs permissions to be changed will show old vs new permissions, and have an empty check box in front
[20:38] <qbit> check the check boxes and it will ask you for a password
[20:39] <qbit> I don't check the group one at the very top though
[20:39] <devilchaos> qbit: yes ive been through tht and now it sys it cnt find them cdrdao and growisofs
[20:39] <devilchaos> ill try again just now
[20:40] <qbit> are they in the list?
[20:40] <devilchaos> they were ticked but now crossed saying it cnt find them
[20:40] <qbit> if they don't show up in the list they may not be installed, although they should be....
[20:41] <devilchaos> hold on...
[20:41] <devilchaos> yeah they are installed because everything was there before i messed with it
[20:42] <devilchaos> http://pastebin.com/3uqVhmd1
[20:43] <devilchaos> thts what i get when i start the program now
[20:43] <devilchaos> and ill pastebin the settings
[20:44] <qbit> yeah - I have both dvd+rw-tools and wodim installed here
[20:46] <qbit> I think wodim and dvd+rw-tools were supposed to replace cdrecord/cdrtools iirc
[20:47] <qbit> might check if you have those installed as well as checking cdrdao
[20:48] <qbit> I'm on Kubuntu 12.04 these days, and I don't remember which/when this may have changed wrt to older kubuntu versions
[20:49] <devilchaos> i have just undone what i did. i reopened the k3bsetup through sudo and set defaults and put it back to the way it was but i stall have the same problem which ill pastebin once it flashes up agin when i try to copy and audio cd for my mum
[20:49] <devilchaos> yes im on the latest release aswell
[20:51] <devilchaos> qbit: you ok to wait a cple of minutes?
[20:51] <qbit> yeah - I'll be here for about another half an hour
[20:51] <qbit> but I'm quickly running out of ideas too  :-)
[20:53] <devilchaos> yeah i know i am aswell should be straight forwardly simple but havent messed with permissions since i changed from debian to kubuntu as everything is done for me now
[20:53] <devilchaos> and need a second brain to help lol
[20:56] <devilchaos> something funny goin on first error msg i got through k3b told me to change the permissions through k3bsetup and now its telling me unknown error code 255 and to check tht i have a patched version of cdrecord
[20:57] <qbit> yeah - that struck me as odd, as dvd+rw-tools replaced cdrtools
[20:58] <devilchaos> ive just checked the debugging output and the information is too large to go on 786mb and i only have 700 cdr
[20:58] <qbit> ughh
[20:59] <qbit> you can usually only overburn at about 2-4 MB over
[21:00] <devilchaos> yes i am aware of tht but i suspect thts why its not buring to disk as it is too lsrge
[21:00] <qbit> but copying a normal audio cd to cd shouldn't be over that - a 700 MB CD is known as an 80 minute audio
[21:00] <qbit> the older ones were 74 minutes
[21:01] <qbit> if the audio cd you're trying to copy is larger than 80 minutes of track time that may be true - but it's also not the 'standard'
[21:02] <devilchaos> ah but would it be possible they have made it tht way so i cannot make the back up as its a new audio cd?
[21:02] <qbit> but I'd also look and see if you have an old cdrtools package laying around; if so uninstall it and put wodim and dvd+rw-tools in it's place
[21:03] <qbit> yes - that is a possibility - I have just not run across anything like that yet
[21:03] <devilchaos> is there a diff program i can use to copy it and ommit a couple of tracks
[21:03] <devilchaos> its been years since ive had to do this as im on digital format now
[21:03] <qbit> but you can tell, if it's 80 minutes of program it's normal and should fit on a 700MB cd
[21:05] <qbit> not certain - but you could expirement with a different one
[21:05] <devilchaos> how do i tell its an 80 min?
[21:05] <qbit> but I suspect you'll see the same errors from k3b as it sounds like something with it is not set up right
[21:06] <qbit> usually an audio cd will  either say or it will have one of those weird little icon pictures on it which is supposed to provide some kind of information on the foramt it contains
[21:08] <devilchaos> the cd im copying doesnt have any markings indicating what size it is the blank cdr does
[21:08] <devilchaos> though
[21:13] <qbit> devilchaos: I haven't tried copying an audio CD in a long time - going to do it now and see what happens
[21:13] <devilchaos> ok :)
[21:13] <qbit> gonna do it to a CD-RW, but that shouldn't matter I think....
[21:19] <qbit> it read the disk, using Wodim, starting to write now...
[21:19] <qbit> it's a 10x CD-RW so it takes a couple of minutes
[21:19] <devilchaos> think ive found a way round the issue
[21:20] <devilchaos> im ripping the tracks off in .wav format then ill just start an audio disc and add the wav files till its full
[21:21] <qbit> if that disk is truly too big that may be what you end up having to do
[21:22] <qbit> 768MB just sounds wrong, or non-standard
[21:22] <devilchaos> yeah  i think thts goin to be the case here it will be worth remembering for the future if my brain will allow it lol yeah a know but wouldnt put it passed the music company for under handedness
[21:22] <qbit> especially Sony
[21:23] <devilchaos> yeah it could be a sony its got universal stamped on it
[21:23] <qbit> a Sony might only have 80 minutes of music on it, but there also might be their rootkit plus advertising
[21:24] <qbit> and whatever other DRM is in vogue these days....
[21:27] <qbit> OK - copy is complete and audio plays...
[21:27] <qbit> my K3b had no problem copying a commercial audio CD to a CD-RW and playing it
[21:30] <qbit> devilchaos: and with that time for me to go, check ya later, and good luck for the future   :-)
[21:31] <devilchaos> cheers lad thx
[21:31] <devilchaos> :) you too
[21:43] <steve_> Hello all, new to KDE, what kind of method do you prefer for making 'shortcuts' to applications on the desktop
[21:43] <steve_> When I drag, say, firefox to the Desktop I get....a widget?
[21:49] <mydogsnameisrudy> you dont like the widget?