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dholbachgood morning06:24
micahgsiretart: are you handling the libav-extra upload?06:29
siretartmicahg: I think I did the most annoying bunch of work here: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-multimedia/libav.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ubuntu.extra06:34
siretartmicahg: I think it even builds properly, but it clearly needs more testing06:34
siretartmicahg: would you have the time to finish/upload that work today? If not, I would eventually get to that during the week (probably not today)06:35
micahgsiretart: I can try in about 21 hours if you don't get to it06:36
siretartok. let's coordinate on short notice then06:36
micahgsiretart: do I need to be able to commit or will anonymous access do it for me?06:36
siretartmicahg: if you do commits, just place them somewhere from where I can fetch and push your commits06:36
siretartmicahg: but I can also arrange write access for you, what's your alioth username?06:37
micahgsiretart: I have write access, the problem is I haven;t added a key to alioth yet06:37
siretartwell, that's the trivial part, isn't it?06:37
micahgyeah, should be :)06:37
siretartthen go for it! :-)06:38
micahgmaybe tomorrow night, about to go to sleep06:38
siretartrest well!06:38
* siretart fetches coffee (it's 8.38am here)06:39
micahgsiretart: thanks, BTW, xubuntu seems interested in dropping libav support from gegl so it's not pulled in by gimp06:39
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badfoxHi I am new merge , i have tried to merge  and getting the problem with debuild -S , here is the link http://pastebin.com/jXaVLrVC13:06
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Davieydholbach: Hey, do you understand why underscore has a binary new package ?14:47
dholbachDaviey, it was introduced in Debian14:48
dholbachyolanda merged it14:48
Davieydholbach: right, but the changelog doesn't make it clear why it's a new binary.. do you understand why?14:49
DavieyOr should i dig in deeper?14:49
dholbachDaviey, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/underscore/1.3.3-1ubuntu114:49
dholbach→ 1.1.6-214:49
Davieydoh!14:50
Davieyi thought it was bin 'underscore' new.14:51
Davieywhich confussled me14:51
dholbachah ok :)14:51
Davieythanks14:51
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cousteauSo...  not sure where to direct this, but here it goes.  The site packages.ubuntu.com seems to default to karmic when searching for package contents, this is, when no &suite=... parameter is in the URL17:46
micahgcousteau: you must have an old cached version, current default is precise17:47
cousteauthis happens for example when I search from a search engine (one I found on mycroft; not sure how official it is) and then switch "Search package names" to "Search package contents"17:47
micahgkarmic isn't even on the site anymore17:48
micahghrm, it's true :(17:48
cousteaualso if I search from the main URL in suite=all then switching to package content just gives an ugly error17:48
* micahg wonders where rhonda is17:49
micahgthat's certainly a lack of sane defaults ;)17:49
cousteaumicahg, well, this is a freshly installed Xubuntu 12.04 on a computer that didn't have any linux before (or if it once had, it was formatted)17:49
micahgcousteau: no, I confirmed it, it's weird though17:49
cousteau...that was it, Rhonda17:49
* cousteau and his memory for names... "Is here that... person whose name starts with a capital R... or B?"17:50
cousteaumicahg, suite=default is precise, however (I think)17:50
cousteauthe problem is that no suite= becomes suite=karmic rather than =default17:51
cousteauI thought it was because I was using an outdated search plugin (noticed the same behavior at home), but now I confirmed it's from the site17:51
cousteaus/confirmed/think/17:52
* Elbrus wants to fix bug 1002520 in precise18:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1002520 in winff (Ubuntu) "winff can't convert MTS to MPG (PAL DVD Widescreen)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100252018:54
Elbrusit is not really a critical bug, some settings just don't work.18:55
* Elbrus guesses that SRU is too far fetched for this18:55
Elbrusshould I make a backport (seems strange, as I only want to fix this issue)18:55
micahgElbrus: how intrusive is the patch?18:56
Elbrushardly18:59
Elbrusit replaces the preset file with updated presets18:59
ElbrusWinff preset file contains the avconv/ffmpeg commands to run18:59
Elbrussee debian/presets.xml and debian/presets-libavcodec53.xml in http://code.google.com/p/winff/source/detail?spec=svn646&r=62719:00
Elbrus(at least debian/presets.xml should be updated)19:01
micahgElbrus: IMHO should be fine for SRU, but IANA SRU memebre19:01
Elbrusok, I will go ahead with creating a debdif then19:01
micahgElbrus: needs to be fixed in quantal first19:02
Elbrusit is already fixed (always was)19:03
micahgElbrus: please comment in the bug to that regard and mark fix released, I"ll give you a precise task19:03
Elbrusor, I should say, since 1.4.2-119:03
Elbrusok19:03
Elbrusdone19:08
micahgElbrus: done as well :)19:09
Elbrusmicahg: thanks19:10
micahgElbrus: thank you for working to improve Ubuntu19:10
Elbrusnp19:11
* Elbrus attached the debdiff and subscribed ubuntu-sponsors and ubuntu-sru. hope all is all right now19:43
* Elbrus signs off now20:16
AmberJ_Why purpose does dh_gencontrol serve?20:23
AmberJ_manpage says that dh_gencontrol generates control files once for each package20:24
AmberJ_http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dreq.en.html#control says: "dh_gencontrol(1) generates DEBIAN/control for each binary package while substituting ${shlibs:Depends}, ${perl:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, etc. "20:25
AmberJ_Does that^ means that for a multi-package debian/control setup which we chose.... there will be multiple packages listed in debian/control created by us (and corresponding *.install files).20:26
AmberJ_Then for each of package listed in debian/control by us, dh_gencontrol creates a (temporary) control file (?)20:27
arandAmberJ_: From my understanding it takes the debian/control that you create, reduces it to only concern the binary package currently being acted upon, substitutes the variables, and places the result in said binary package, see debian/binpackagename/DEBIAN/control after you run the build for the result.20:38
arandIf you have a multi-package setup, the end result will be multiple different control files, one in each binary package.20:39
AmberJ_Oh yes, this explains it. Thanks!20:40
AmberJ_In a multi-package setup (with a single upstream source repo), if I put ${shlibs:Depends} and ${misc:Depends} under "Depends:" field in entries corresponding to EVERY package20:52
AmberJ_Will this automatically find mutual dependencies between these packages (based on the contents/libs in these packages)?20:53
arandAmberJ_: Not as far as I know.21:03
AmberJ_Ok, I'll do a build and see if putting ${shlibs:Depends} and ${misc:Depends} works...21:05
AmberJ_Otherwise, I'll have to put mutual deb dependencies manually21:05
AmberJ_If a package depends on another package in multi package setup, I can simply put the name of package as in filename.install file under Depends:21:16
arandWell, "package".install links to the "Package: "package"" field in d/control, so all three would be the same.21:20
frcermIf upstream source has *.h header files, all header files are supposed to be packed in deb (assuming *.so packed in debs have declarations in all *.h)22:05
frcerm?22:05
jtaylorall headers that are needed to develop with the package22:06
jtaylorthose are not necessarily all in the source22:06
jtaylornormally the source installation method installs what is needed22:06
frcerm[03:36] <jtaylor> those are not necessarily all in the source  <--  If some headers might not be included in upstream source, how does one gets them?22:09
jtaylorphrased it badly22:10
jtaylornot all headers inside the source package are needed by to use the package22:10
jtaylorthe installed headers should only expose the public interface and nothing private22:11
frcermgot it! Thank you very much...22:11
bobweaverhello there I am trying to make a video tutorial for a friend on how to package " bakgrounds "  but the dang things will not show up under settings... permissions are correct do I have to make a xml file maybe? here is bzr branch (well pushng now)  https://code.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+junk/backgrounds22:15
bobweaverpackage builds great installs to /usr/share/backgrounds/  but will not show up under settings-->appearance->look22:16
arandIs /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/gnome-backgrounds.xml the crux? (Not sure of equivalent for Unity)22:17
bobweaverthanks arand22:18
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LordOfTimeanyone here familiar with patch tagging guidelines?22:40
arandLordOfTime: Somewhat, if you mean the dep3 stuff.22:48
LordOfTimethat's what i meant, but mdeslaur beat you to it in -hardened22:48

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