=== SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [06:52] good morning all [06:56] morning charlvn, etc [06:57] hi inetpro === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [08:00] o/ [08:05] morning superfly maiatoday and everyone else [08:06] lurkers too [08:06] hey Kilos [08:08] hi Kilos, superfly [08:09] hi charlvn [08:12] heh Kilos, you managed to get unfrozen? [08:12] wb [08:12] hahaha inetpro ty. im still shivering but had other major pc probs that kept me off [08:14] tried boot-repair for a small old drive and let boot-repair get its update and when all done and it said repair succesful i couldnt get back again. disk utility from 6g drive showed many bad sectors on my 80g [08:16] did a clean install without formatting /home and spent days install with gdebi but i think it was a bad install. lotsa things are unhappy [08:18] maybe it was a bad aptoncd too [08:25] lo nuvolari queery [08:30] hi oom Kilos [08:32] a queery \o/ [08:32] hi Kerbero [08:32] hi Kerbero [08:32] hi :) [08:33] Morning ya'll [08:34] morning HawkiesZA [08:36] hi HawkiesZA [08:58] siyanobona good morning [08:58] sapele Guest4068 === Guest4068 is now known as virsto [09:00] hwzt kilos? [09:00] good ty and you virsto . are you new here? [09:01] yes im [09:01] welcome to ubuntu-za [09:03] Welcpme to ubuntu-za Oom Kilos [09:03] thnx man is this a chart rum? [09:04] hehe hiya bakuman [09:04] virsto, this is the ubuntu / linux help channel [09:06] a chart rum ?! [09:06] ok kilos [09:06] yeah what is a chart rum? [09:07] i have made some charts and drank some rum but never heard of a chart rum before [09:07] hehe [09:08] read charts and drank lotsa rum many years ago. [09:08] rum tastes good in cake [09:12] i dont think his english is very good, or else he is a spinchat guy [09:16] spinchat? === Guest4068 is now known as virsto [09:20] molweni [09:21] virsto: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/096/044/trollface.jpg?1296494117 [09:22] virsto, ?? [09:22] Maaz, define molweni [09:22] Kilos: I don't have a definition for that. Is it even a word? [09:22] hehe [09:23] molweni afaik means good morning [09:26] ha chatmosphere [09:27] some noob stuff [09:30] its a chat client where most of them look for romance methinks [09:31] lotsa blackberry peeps get here with it [09:46] sup [09:46] wheee we went hunting for snow to play in yesterday :P finally found some as well, found LOTS :) [09:57] hi Symmetria [11:02] could i ask someone for help please? [11:29] hi goar [11:29] yes of course, throw the question [11:30] Symmetria: where is that, the snow? [11:33] hey [11:33] i want to share my internet connection in ubuntu [11:33] i have 2 pcs in the following setup: [11:33] internet --> BoxA(eth0) [11:34] boxA (eth1) --> local switch [11:34] local switch -- > BoxB [11:34] BoxB (eth0) [11:34] understand? [11:35] ok so obviously BoxA has 2 NICs and BoxB has 1 nic [11:36] ok [11:37] just setup nat routing [11:37] should do teh trick [11:37] nat routing [11:37] on any linux distro you can just do it using iptables [11:37] ok will google it [11:37] there are a bunch of help pages on this topic on the ubuntu wiki [11:37] community.ubuntu.com [11:37] right [11:37] there are some easier tools that will do the hard work fr you [11:38] but even if you do it manually by configuring iptables directly, it is not difficult [11:38] i always do it manually [11:38] just because then i have more control over it [11:38] yes i anyway want to learn, so im going to try it manually [11:38] it's literally two or three commands and there are tons of howtos on the internet [11:38] good idea [11:38] you have to keep one thing in mind [11:38] if you do configure iptables and you reboot the machine, your iptables config will be lost [11:39] you can save and restore your iptables config but just go and google that as well [11:39] ok thanks charlvn [11:39] np [11:39] glad to help [11:40] lol [11:41] I found my icelandic tshirts yay [11:41] I have one that says "WHAT PART OF EYJAFJALLAJöKULL DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?!" [11:41] lol [11:45] oh you're in iceland? strange that it's snowing today, it's the middle of summer [12:14] lol [12:42] hi Kerbero [14:10] afternoon guys. nearly home time [14:24] hi goar [14:24] hi? [14:25] you new here? [14:25] yes im new [14:25] welcome to ubuntu-za [14:25] thankyou Kilos [14:25] yw, are you usoing ubuntu? [14:25] how long have you been here? [14:25] using [14:26] 3 years i think [14:26] i only started this year [14:26] late last year [14:26] mostly for programming/development [14:26] great, are you happy? [14:26] ooh very hapy indeed [14:26] :) [14:26] ah you one of the clever guys [14:27] ubuntu rocks [14:27] hehe. im always willing to learn [14:27] yes i love ubuntu. [14:27] everything is so ... causal [14:27] its only the stupid peeps that arent willing to learn [14:28] thats also why they are stupid [14:28] lol [14:28] have you met the other guys here yet? [14:28] mayb their just scared [14:29] yeah i was too but with the guys here helping me i have managed to trash windows [14:29] havent really met anyone yet. charlvn gave me a pointer on how to set up my internet connection sharing [14:30] oh ok. good for you. [14:30] most of them are all busy at work most of the time but if you ask for help and wait patiently someone will always give a hand [14:30] i just keep windows laying around for if i want to play a game [14:30] ok thanks [14:30] lol thats all its good for [14:30] yeah [14:31] 'scuse me, i was playing around with setting up a local dhcp/dns server for my flat [14:31] we are having our monthly meeting on the 18th at 19.30 try join us [14:31] ok. [14:31] will try [14:31] is it on here? [14:32] yip right here [14:32] ok cool. Is there any website associated with this channel maybe? [14:32] yeah a few [14:33] maiatoday, how busy are you? [14:33] i never remember things [14:33] oh [14:33] hehe [14:34] sometimes our bot keeps info [14:34] Maaz, ubuntu-za sites [14:34] Kilos: Huh? [14:34] grr [14:35] ubuntu-za.org? [14:36] that could be one [14:36] there are a few [14:36] Kilos? [14:37] maiatoday, can you please give goar our sites links [14:38] goar: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za [14:38] that site has links to lots of our comms channels [14:38] also ubuntu-za.org [14:38] i see. [14:38] thanks [14:38] ty maiatoday [14:38] then we have a page on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam but that site only has meeting minutes and reports [14:39] also if you are into facebook we have a group there [14:39] we tweet with hashtag #ubuntu-za like this channel [14:39] ok i,ll take note of it [14:40] https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntuza/ [14:42] if you want to edit on loco.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com you should probably join the launchpad group too [14:42] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za [14:42] so it sounds like a lot of sites but really they have different functions [14:42] yeah. hehe. I'll have a look around [14:44] thanks again maia [14:45] Maaz, ubuntu-za sites [14:45] http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntuza/ https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za [14:45] thnks maiatoday maaz has the info too now [14:46] ta Kilos, could you add http://ubuntu-za.org too please [14:48] ok guys [14:48] will do maiatoday [14:48] i,ll be back later [14:48] later goar [14:48] chz [14:48] bye goar [14:48] bye maiatoday [14:49] hey Kilos I am _still_ waiting for results, it is driving me crazy [14:49] shame that sucks maiatoday [14:49] their deadline was like end of last month [14:49] sigh [14:49] dont they give a date or anything? [14:50] oh my [14:50] new sa [14:50] Maaz, ubuntu-za sites [14:50] http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntuza/ https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za http://ubuntu-za.org [14:52] hi psydroid all well? [14:53] hi Kilos [14:53] yeah, everything is ok [14:54] good [14:54] and with you? [14:54] just cold. -3°c last night [14:54] hi maiatoday [14:54] hi goar [14:54] hi psydroid [14:54] freezing cold [14:55] don't you have any heating? [14:55] yeah poor sheep couldnt drink till 11am [14:55] yeah bath and bed [14:55] lol [14:58] oh [14:59] I usually don't put the heating on too much even in winter [15:02] whew , you thick skinned? [15:02] hehe [15:02] na your young thats why [15:02] Hi maiatoday [15:03] hey superfly how are things [15:03] maiatoday: apart from some electrical problems with my car, all good thanks [15:03] goo [15:03] good [15:04] * superfly had to break out the soldering iron at work the other day [15:04] Loving my job :-) [15:04] haha soldering one of your super powers? [15:05] I can solder but I suck at it [15:05] maiatoday: it used to be, I haven't had much practice recently though [15:05] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/51427-broadband-speeds-sa-vs-the-world.html [15:06] "Net Index ranks South Africa at number 109 when it comes to download speed, well below countries such as Angola, Kenya, Ghana and Ethiopia." [15:06] still got it though, it seems [15:06] wtfbbq [15:06] hi superfly, maiatoday [15:06] Yo charlvn [15:06] Kilos, I'm not that young actually, just cold-blooded [15:07] lol [15:07] charlvn: Yeah, our Interwebs is awesome in SA, haven't you heard from Telkom? ;P [15:07] psydroid: everyone is young compared to Kilos :-P [15:07] HawkiesZA1: shit never realised [15:07] ha ha ha === HawkiesZA1 is now known as HawkiesZA [15:08] and that for someone of Indian descent [15:08] hi superfly and charlvn [15:08] charlvn: watch the language in this channel please [15:08] hi psydroid [15:08] superfly: language? [15:08] charlvn: yup [15:08] what do you mean? i'm speaking english [15:08] lol [15:08] yeah, for a change :P [15:08] As pure as it gets too [15:08] charlvn: the 4 letter words [15:08] four letter words? four is a four letter word [15:08] poop [15:09] worst one is that wtf [15:09] not nice [15:09] ladies around [15:09] ??? [15:09] and old ballies [15:09] Apologies [15:09] ballies haha [15:09] Probably gave someone a heart attack [15:10] How do we feel about 7-letter words? [15:11] as long as they arent swear words they fine HawkiesZA [15:11] hawkies is a 7-letter word, whatever that means [15:11] we are gentle peeps [15:12] I'd guess that it's a group of small hawks :P [15:12] The Ubuntu Code of Conduct says [15:13] The Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which governs this channel, says that we should endeavour to be polite at all times [15:13] superfly: i think we are pretty polite over here [15:13] People have been banned from this channel for contravening the CoC [15:13] I wonder if he was being polite.... [15:13] amd helpful! [15:14] I prefer Intel [15:14] lol nice HawkiesZA [15:14] *and [15:14] hehe [15:14] :P [15:14] charlvn: swaer words are not regarded as polite in most cultures, so we try to keep swearing to a minimum in here. [15:14] superfly: that's fine by me, i don't do any swearing anyway [15:15] meh, phone typing FTL [15:15] yeah it's pesky [15:15] charlvn: except the s-word you used earlier [15:15] s-word? [15:16] charlvn: yes, the one that means faeces [15:16] POOP! [15:16] oh the str-something word, i never used that word in this channel [15:17] * superfly wonders if HawkiesZA misses kindergarten [15:17] lol [15:18] hehe [15:18] charlvn: no, the sh-something word [15:18] superfly: Some days yes. It was a simpler time [15:19] superfly: not following you, shell is not a curse [15:20] i use bash every day, and that isn't a threat of violence, it's just a shell implementation [15:20] i'm quite strictly a pacifist [15:20] charlvn: you're following me perfectly, you just are trying to string me on. [15:20] :P [15:20] hehe [15:21] * HawkiesZA thinks charlvn should write a fishing book: The art of trolling [15:21] superfly, not everyone has kids already [15:21] http://i.imgur.com/MsDvu.jpg [15:22] Kilos: indeed, some are still kids [15:22] haha to me anyone ians age is still a kid [15:22] charlvn: clicked for the trollface. Was not disappointed :P [15:23] HawkiesZA: http://i.imgur.com/Ij6X0.png [15:26] That one always freaks me out :/ [15:26] lol [15:26] me gusta is a troll on its own [15:30] bbl [15:30] k [15:31] heh. Lady on the train next to me is reading the full page Nandos advert of their advert.... [15:31] The pro-diversity [15:31] nanception [15:37] superfly, where you going onna train? [15:38] Kilos: going home [15:38] wow that brings back memories [15:38] Kilos: Cape Town to Muizenberg [15:39] 30 years ago i rode train to work and back for a year [15:39] then bought a bike [15:40] superfly: Gautrain? [15:40] no HawkiesZA he is inj capetown [15:41] HawkiesZA: unlikely, that's a few thousand K's away [15:41] at least with modernj cells you take the internet with you [15:41] ah [15:41] Sorry, my psychic powers aren't what they used to be [15:42] hehe [15:44] HawkiesZA: I did tell Kilos that I am travelling to Muizenberg from Cape Town, thought you'd read that [15:45] I must have ignored that one because of the name tag :P [15:45] My baaaaaad [15:49] HawkiesZA, you'r forgiven [16:18] Guess the room couldn't find him [16:18] aw i missed him [16:19] he is one of us but in arab land [16:21] nlsthzn, you lurking or sleeping [16:24] hi uncle Kilos [16:24] was eating some dinner [16:26] how you nlsthzn long time no see [16:28] fine thanks uncle Kilos ... you? [16:29] fine ty nlsthzn just winter here with a vengeance [16:29] I heard... [16:29] hehe [16:30] * nlsthzn will bbl ... need to do the 3 s's [16:30] and your postal service takes forever to get some heat here [16:30] k [16:31] postal service here doesn't work :/ [16:31] haha [16:53] Maaz, coffee on [16:53] * Maaz puts the kettle on [16:53] Maaz, hurry [16:53] Making decent coffee is an art Kilos and should never be rushed [16:57] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [16:57] Maaz, danke [16:57] Bitteschön [17:07] o/ [17:07] lo [17:07] hi oom Kilos [17:07] lo nuvolari how are you laddy [17:08] I'm good and you oom? [17:08] it's freezing here [17:08] stay in durbs , its freezing up here [17:08] well, still a lot warmer than there... [17:08] freezing in durbs?? [17:08] hehe [17:08] ya oom! I got used to the heat [17:09] lol freezing in durbs is 10°c [17:09] exactly! [17:09] will tell you now whats tonight forcast [17:09] forecast [17:10] 15 mins to wait then we hear what the idiot box says [17:10] wb goar [17:10] hey Kilos [17:10] heh, anyhow, did you have a good day oom Kilos ? [17:10] yes ty nuvolari and you? [17:10] meet new ubuntu guy goar [17:10] besides the cold, nothing out of the ordinary [17:11] hiiiii [17:11] hi hello goar [17:11] welcome :) [17:11] goar, where are you? [17:11] hey. stellenbosch [17:11] he's right there oom Kilos [17:11] * nuvolari points [17:11] where r you? [17:11] hee hee [17:12] oh goar there lotsa ubuntu peeps there [17:12] pretoria [17:12] yes its the university's supported ubuntu distro [17:12] we have a local repo mirror here [17:13] you studying? [17:14] yes. Electronic Engineering. Im almost finished [17:14] sounds good [17:14] Yeah im into machine learning stuff. [17:14] which uni? [17:14] o [17:14] stell [17:14] Stellenbosch [17:14] proxy0.sun... [17:14] lol [17:15] what do you guys do? Jobs, studying etc [17:15] lol [17:15] study electroninc engineering [17:16] study electroninc engineering [17:16] cool [17:16] lol [17:16] @ spelling error [17:17] hehe i loaf on my sisters plot [17:17] lol [17:17] well done for you kilos [17:17] look after sheep etc [17:17] sounds chill :) [17:17] goar: i am at your service if you need any help [17:18] hehe [17:18] ok thanks Kerbero [17:18] dit is scary dat ek en bakuman die selfde IP het [17:18] vreeslik scary [17:18] wow [17:19] Im currently trying to set up a local dhcp server for my flat [17:19] en banlam [17:19] hoe kan dit wees [17:19] en koiositfy [17:19] want julle is in dieselfde huis? [17:19] * bakuman is in Brackenfell op die oomblik [17:19] nee ons share 'n irc bouncer [17:19] oh [17:19] magic [17:19] moar magic [17:19] * Banlam is in PE [17:20] windy city [17:20] * Kerbero is in ... [17:20] uhm [17:20] coetzenburg [17:20] Kerbero, wheres that? [17:20] lol, kyk net hoe probeer Kerbero ver klink deur nie te se Stellenbosch noe [17:20] (stellenbosch, maar moenie vir almal se^ nie) :P [17:20] haha [17:21] ha ha ha [17:21] goar: so jy is in die koshuis? [17:21] sien goar hulle wemel daar [17:21] goar, watse koshuis? [17:21] moenie maak asof jy nie weet nie jpm [17:21] eendrag ek se^ [17:21] \o/ [17:22] alle E&E's is altyd in eendrag until proven otherwise [17:22] lol [17:22] ok fine [17:22] lol @ goar wat rooihub main chat check [17:22] baie snaaks ne? [17:23] baie magic [17:23] * bakuman join gou main chat [17:23] ahh [17:23] ek sien [17:23] ai, nou is ons hele lab weer op irc [17:23] lol [17:24] n regte klomp nerds :P [17:24] so, wie gaan my help om n local dhcp server op te stel in my kamer? [17:24] hoekom wil jy dit doen? [17:25] en dis nie so moeilik nie [17:25] ag makliker maak om internet sharing te doen [17:25] as ek reg verstaan maak dit dit makliker as jy dit eers reg het [17:26] ok [17:26] ek sou net ip's force [17:26] maar dis seker makliker vir plug&play [17:29] oh my nuvolari it is winter in durbs [17:29] 7°c tonight 25°c tomorrow [17:30] * nuvolari dies [17:30] help oom Kilos! hoe bly 'n mens warm hier? [17:30] lol [17:30] heaters [17:30] of vroeg bed toe [17:30] dis 'n ding wat ons nie hier te koop kry nie [17:31] ja kry ma om een saam te bring volgende besoek [17:31] warm bad dan bed toe [17:32] heh, hulle is nou eers in Aus oom [17:33] a [17:33] miskien kry jy een by game nuvolari [17:34] lol of vra walter [17:35] confluency, why you so quiet ? [17:37] nag almal... bly warm... [17:40] night nlsthzn sleep tight [17:40] herro [17:40] any tried installing ubuntu-server from usb? [17:40] yo zeref [17:42] hi Kilos [17:49] zeref, you battling? [17:51] yeah, seems like ubuntu-server installation keeps looking for cdrom [17:51] good evening all [17:51] hi charlvn [17:51] hi zeref, how's it gonig [17:51] *going, too late for good typing [17:51] zeref: did you remove it from your sources.list? [17:52] i always install ubuntu desktop from usb but never tried installing server from usb [17:52] usually when i install server i install inside a virtual machine [17:52] zeref: oh, you're installing from USB but it keeps on looking for CDROM instead of USB? [17:52] yebo [17:52] interesting, and this is specific to ubuntu server? [17:53] there are many articles, with different solutions [17:53] sigh, looking for a detailed conprehensive one [17:53] zeref: how did you make the usb stick? using the ubuntu startup creator tool? [17:53] usb key startup or whatever it is called [17:54] used Unetbootin [17:54] ah [17:55] i have not had very good result with that thing [17:55] debian works, but i guess debian does not have a *server edition [17:55] i always create my keys manually by mounting the iso and the usb key, rsync'ing the files, and installing syslinux [17:56] hmmm: http://www.7loop.com/content/install-ubuntu-server-usb-without-cd [17:56] perhaps an alternative method would be using grub2 and configuring it to run the iso directly? [17:59] yeah, thats an option as well [17:59] i have had pretty good luck with that myself [17:59] the only problem i had with grub2 on a usb stick is on my macbook pro [18:00] for some reason, after booting from the usb stick on grub2, i can't boot from my hard drive anymore [18:00] but that has to do with the EFI boot loader and i don't think the grub2 efi support is really good yet [18:01] but if you use traditional bios obviously that is not of concern for you [18:01] wb psydroid [18:03] ty charlvn [18:03] you know what gets on my nerves... gnome-terminal uses alt+1, alt+2 etc to navigate between tabs [18:03] irssi uses the same keyboard combination to navigate between channels [18:05] I always redefine the keyboard shortcuts so those of irssi work [18:06] so alt+shift+1 instead of alt+1 etc. [18:07] and shift+left arrow to go back [18:07] and shift+right arrow to go to the next window [18:07] I also disable alt+b combo's somewhere in the settings [18:08] sounds like a good idea psydroid [18:10] charlvn: why not use terminator(multiple terminals in one window) then you can user alt+1 etc :D [18:31] zeref: sorry i don't completely understand? [18:32] gnome-terminal has multiple terminals inside one window [18:32] they appear as tabs at the top [18:39] night all, sleep tight and warm [18:40] nag [18:40] 8.4 nou al hier [18:40] dis te koud hier by pc [18:40] sien julle more as die son skyn [18:55] wb inetpro [19:02] charlvn: i meant: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/terminator-multiple-gnome-terminals-in-one-window.html [19:05] charlvn: hmm... thanks [19:06] charlvn: http://i.imgur.com/LqMvG.jpg [19:08] why would I suddenly see thick white borders around dropdown menus on Ubuntu 11.10 [19:08] I've seen it before and a reboot normally resolves it but I hate that as a solution [19:08] Evening all. [19:09] Is that not part of Gnome Terminal? wow... Konsole has had that feature for years [19:10] superfly: I guess your'e referring to zeref's links? [19:10] inetpro: yes [19:14] * inetpro needs to load kubuntu back onto this laptop asap [19:15] can't even do simple things like screen prints properly the way I'm used to on kubuntu [19:16] no option for delayed screen prints [19:16] or even for own selection [19:23] Sounds a bit odd that it happens without you changing anything. [19:23] inetpro: which desktop are you using at the moment? gnome-screenshot can also do all that [19:23] charlvn: unity [19:24] inetpro: ah ok, interesting, haven't used unity much recently [19:24] am using gnome3 atm [19:24] charlvn: I just have simple options for save screenshot and copy screenshot [19:24] inetpro: sounds like the old gnome-screenshot to me [19:24] zeref: nice background :) me gusta [19:24] not even an option to take another screenshot [19:24] zeref: that's quite interesting, it looks a bit like a tiling window manager [19:25] for some reason, never been a big fan of tiling window managers or splitting the screen [19:25] i like to have one thing open at a time, dunno [19:25] anyway, I'm back to normal after a logout and login but as I said I hate doing it this way [19:26] don't wanna waste time on it though [19:26] i had so much crap with unity i stopped using it altogether, too many bugs [19:26] funny enough I couldn't find anyone else having that same issue with a quick search [19:27] brb [19:32] :D [19:36] * superfly lives in ignorant bliss in KDE land [19:37] Have not upgraded yet [19:38] o0o0: lol'd when i saw this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/nsfw-adult-lens-and-porn-scope-ready-for-testing [19:38] :whistle: [19:42] Is that for real? [19:44] zeref: i picture you already: http://i.imgur.com/Ij6X0.png [19:47] LOL @ charlvn [19:50] And half of the rest of the net. [19:50] :D [19:50] :D [19:51] i'm curious to hear superfly's comments on this [20:01] Brb switching to the phone