| msdaisy | hello all, I'm studying linux permissions and I don't understand how you would see this: -rwsr-S--t. I would only expect this: -rw-r----- What command would you use to get the first result? | 02:44 |
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| msdaisy | I know ls -l will give you the second result. | 02:44 |
| escott | msdaisy, i think thats setuid, setgid and sticky bit | 02:47 |
| msdaisy | yes it is. But how do you get bash to report that? | 02:47 |
| escott | msdaisy, stat? | 02:48 |
| msdaisy | is there a variable that goes with stat? because I just get the expected result with stat. | 02:49 |
| escott | msdaisy, i dont understand what you want exactly | 02:50 |
| msdaisy | I don't either- that's probably the problem :) | 02:50 |
| escott | msdaisy, are you asking how you would go about chmod'ding a file to make it that set of permissions? | 02:50 |
| msdaisy | When would I see -rwsr-S--t ? Why wouldn't I just see rwx only? I'm getting this from here: http://content.hccfl.edu/pollock/aunix1/filepermissions.htm just above the "Files" section. | 02:51 |
| escott | msdaisy, so the lowercase s means setuid/setgid non-executable, the capital S means setuid/setgid and executable | 02:52 |
| escott | iirc | 02:52 |
| msdaisy | how is that different from ---x or ----? | 02:54 |
| escott | msdaisy, you want to know what setuid/gid do? | 02:54 |
| msdaisy | yes. | 02:54 |
| escott | depends on it being a file or folder | 02:55 |
| escott | on files that are marked S meaning setuid and executable the file executes with the uid/gid of the owner. so this is used for things like "mount" | 02:55 |
| msdaisy | ah, setuid is used to temporarily elevate privileges too. | 02:56 |
| escott | which allows non-priviledged users to perform priviledged operations (subject to the restrictions of the application in the mount case entry must be in the fstab) | 02:56 |
| escott | msdaisy, inspecting ls -l `which mount` shows im wrong. maybe s means setuid without executable | 02:57 |
| msdaisy | The SUID bit displays as an "S" in the owner's execute column of the output. If the execute bit is also set then an "s" is used. (from the link I posted) | 02:58 |
| msdaisy | thanks for the help escott , I will continue to read. | 03:00 |
| escott | on folders it means that new files get set to the same permissions | 03:01 |
| escott | msdaisy, im not sure when you would ever have setuid/gid without execute, or what that would mean | 03:02 |
| msdaisy | escott, that's what was confusing me. I think i just need to read more about setuid/gid in general. | 03:34 |
| escott | msdaisy, my guess is the capital S is to indicate "you probably got this wrong and want something else" | 03:34 |
| Matpick | Hello, a beginner here, having some issues installing Ubuntu anyone here willing to help me out? | 05:41 |
| nothingspecial | well I'm in here | 05:42 |
| nothingspecial | lol | 05:42 |
| nothingspecial | what's up Matpick | 05:42 |
| Matpick | Well I formated my disk getting rid of Windows and wanting to install Ubuntu only | 05:43 |
| nothingspecial | ok | 05:43 |
| Matpick | now i ran it with the disc when i go and click install its telling me I dont have 4.4 GB of space to install Ubuntu | 05:43 |
| Matpick | My hdd is 1TB | 05:43 |
| nothingspecial | is it unallocated space or is there a partition there | 05:44 |
| Matpick | Kind of stuck now since I can only run ubuntu using CD and Windows is also gone | 05:44 |
| Matpick | Im not really sure, I formated it using the Windows 7 Install Disc :/ which I know isnt the right way to do it | 05:44 |
| nothingspecial | press the super (windows key) and start typing "gparted" | 05:44 |
| nothingspecial | open the gparted partition editor and have a look at what you've got | 05:45 |
| Matpick | Yeah I tried GParted after Googling it but that says no devices detected. | 05:45 |
| wilee-nilee | Matpick, hit alt-f2 then type unity --reset then try again, if this is a ubuntu cd | 05:46 |
| Matpick | Didnt want to ask any dumb questions so I have been on google trying to fix this for at least two hours but im stuck.. | 05:46 |
| nothingspecial | can you see the drive from the live cd at all? | 05:46 |
| wilee-nilee | unity has a habit of being mucked up | 05:46 |
| Matpick | typed it, screen was blinking for a little bit now im back | 05:47 |
| stlsaint | i dont think thats the issue. That 1TB is formatted wrong possibly | 05:47 |
| Matpick | Ran GParted again still no devices detected | 05:47 |
| Matpick | I do think my 1TB might be wrongly formated.. not sure how I can fix that though | 05:48 |
| nothingspecial | press Ctrl-Alt-T to run a terminal and type | 05:48 |
| nothingspecial | sudo fdisk -l | 05:48 |
| nothingspecial | it'll ask for a password, just hit enter | 05:48 |
| nothingspecial | can you see your drive listed? | 05:49 |
| Matpick | dont think so | 05:49 |
| Matpick | i see bunch of letters like b c h u v etc. and with some text next to it but nothing that looks like my drive | 05:50 |
| Matpick | b <size> sector size (512, 1024, 2048 or 4096) | 05:50 |
| Matpick | that type of thing | 05:50 |
| Matpick | fdisk [options] <disk> change partition table | 05:51 |
| nothingspecial | silly, obvious question coming | 05:51 |
| nothingspecial | you sure it's connected correctly? | 05:51 |
| Matpick | Well I had Windows on it just hour ago and computer was working fine | 05:52 |
| stlsaint | Matpick: are you using one or two drives? | 05:52 |
| Matpick | only one | 05:52 |
| Matpick | Single 1TB drive | 05:52 |
| stlsaint | Matpick: do you mind installing a application called pastebinit? | 05:53 |
| Matpick | i guess not, what does it do | 05:54 |
| stlsaint | just gonna allow us to see your command outputs | 05:54 |
| stlsaint | via a website | 05:54 |
| Matpick | I was reading something on the net about the way driveis conected something about SATA and SATAIII or something but I dont understand it | 05:54 |
| Matpick | sure ill google it now | 05:54 |
| stlsaint | Matpick: SATA is fine. As long as you dont have multiple | 05:54 |
| stlsaint | Matpick: no google needed | 05:55 |
| stlsaint | Matpick: open a terminal and enter: sudo apt-get install pastebinit | 05:55 |
| nothingspecial | sudo apt-get install pastebinit | 05:55 |
| nothingspecial | in your terminal, again just enter throught the password | 05:55 |
| stlsaint | nothingspecial: tsk tsk...to slow lol | 05:55 |
| Matpick | ok done | 05:55 |
| stlsaint | Matpick: in terminal enter: | 05:56 |
| stlsaint | Matpick: sudo fdisk -l | 05:56 |
| stlsaint | sorry | 05:56 |
| stlsaint | Matpick: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit | 05:56 |
| stlsaint | and paste the url you get here | 05:56 |
| nothingspecial | then paste url here | 05:56 |
| nothingspecial | :) | 05:56 |
| stlsaint | nothingspecial: lol thats twice ;) | 05:56 |
| stlsaint | quick on the keys lol | 05:56 |
| stlsaint | Matpick: just copy and paste the output here | 05:57 |
| Matpick | Cant im on the different computer at the moment | 05:57 |
| Matpick | On the laptop | 05:57 |
| Matpick | But I guess I can relog on the one running ubuntu | 05:57 |
| stlsaint | o_O | 05:57 |
| nothingspecial | come back from the live cd | 05:57 |
| stlsaint | does the ubuntu computer have internet? | 05:58 |
| nothingspecial | but I have to go to work | 05:58 |
| nothingspecial | I'll have to leave you in these capable hands | 05:58 |
| stlsaint | ha | 05:58 |
| Matpick | yeah im on the net on it | 05:58 |
| nothingspecial | hope you get it sorted Matpick :) | 05:58 |
| Matpick | Thanks for your help | 05:59 |
| MatpickUbuntu | Ok on ubuntu comp now | 05:59 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: well no need for Matpick now | 05:59 |
| MatpickUbuntu | yeah just want to be on incase something stuffs up with this ne | 05:59 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: arlight paste that url from the commdn | 06:00 |
| stlsaint | command | 06:00 |
| MatpickUbuntu | Yeah, it said pastebinit is not located | 06:00 |
| stlsaint | that means you didnt install it | 06:00 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: sudo apt-get install pastebinit | 06:00 |
| MatpickUbuntu | I | 06:01 |
| MatpickUbuntu | Yup doneit again now its sayig unable to locate package pastebinit | 06:01 |
| stlsaint | alright screw it, just paste the output into paste.ubuntu.com and send url here | 06:02 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: paste output of command: sudo fdisk -l | 06:02 |
| MatpickUbuntu | is that - L ? or 1 | 06:02 |
| stlsaint | lowercase | 06:03 |
| MatpickUbuntu | yeah it doesnt do anything | 06:03 |
| stlsaint | no space between the - and l | 06:04 |
| stlsaint | fdisk -l | 06:04 |
| stlsaint | sudo fdisk -l | 06:04 |
| MatpickUbuntu | ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ | 06:04 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: enter command: sudo lshw -C disk | 06:05 |
| MatpickUbuntu | CPUID | 06:05 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: paste output in paste.ubuntu.com | 06:05 |
| MatpickUbuntu | Doing it now | 06:05 |
| MatpickUbuntu | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1036681/ | 06:06 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: considering that linux does not see your drive im thinking you will need to re-format with a boot disk | 06:10 |
| MatpickUbuntu | Will I be able to burn it since im running ubuntu through a disc? | 06:11 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: you said you had another computer right? | 06:11 |
| MatpickUbuntu | MacBook AIr .. no Cd :( | 06:11 |
| stlsaint | ok, will have to use usb than | 06:11 |
| MatpickUbuntu | Got plenty of those | 06:12 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: i am a personal fan of UBCD | 06:13 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: download the iso from one of the mirrors listed below and use a application called unetbootin to install to usb | 06:14 |
| stlsaint | sudo apt-get install unetbootin | 06:14 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: here is UBCD site: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html | 06:14 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: if that CD cant get your drive to a read ready state with fat32 or ntfs format than nothing will :) | 06:15 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: 1. Download from site UBCD ISO | 06:15 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: 2. In ubuntu open terminal and enter: sudo apt-get install unetbootin | 06:16 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: 3. Plug in USB to ubuntu system and open Unetbootin from menus | 06:16 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: 4. Select the "Have ISO" option and ensure that /dev/sdb is listed in the usb section of unetbooin | 06:16 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: 5. Select the ISO from your system and start. Boot to the usb after its done and try and format that drive | 06:17 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: i must head to bed, 0120AM here | 06:17 |
| MatpickUbuntu | Thanks for help mate hopefully it will work :) | 06:18 |
| MatpickUbuntu | sudo apt-get install unetbootin .. for some reason it siad it cant find unetbootin :/ | 06:18 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: if not just come back tomorrow, ill be here ;) | 06:18 |
| stlsaint | >< | 06:18 |
| stlsaint | are you sure you have internet on that system? | 06:18 |
| MatpickUbuntu | Im on it now | 06:18 |
| MatpickUbuntu | Writing from it | 06:18 |
| stlsaint | your not joshing me?? o_O | 06:18 |
| stlsaint | oh alright | 06:18 |
| MatpickUbuntu | Im not | 06:19 |
| MatpickUbuntu | Full 100% serious.. its frustrating me :( | 06:19 |
| MatpickUbuntu | ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install unetbootin | 06:19 |
| stlsaint | ah forgot you may have to enable the sources. | 06:19 |
| MatpickUbuntu | How do I do that | 06:19 |
| stlsaint | you see that bar to your right | 06:20 |
| stlsaint | aye left | 06:20 |
| MatpickUbuntu | Yup | 06:20 |
| stlsaint | hit the top ubuntu symbol button and type in update manager | 06:20 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: give me a sec, booting up vm | 06:21 |
| MatpickUbuntu | yup | 06:22 |
| MatpickUbuntu | found the thing and opened it | 06:22 |
| stlsaint | ok you should see a option that says: CD-ROM | 06:24 |
| MatpickUbuntu | I have Settings, Check, Install Updates and Close | 06:26 |
| stlsaint | nope, one sec | 06:26 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: hit settings button | 06:26 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: Click first tab, "Ubuntu Software" | 06:27 |
| stlsaint | select the "Main" | 06:27 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: then hit close | 06:27 |
| MatpickUbuntu | Yup | 06:27 |
| MatpickUbuntu | E: Unable to locate package unetbootin | 06:28 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: did everything reload? Packages should have reloaded | 06:28 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: screw it, easypeasy, go here, hit download button | 06:29 |
| stlsaint | http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ | 06:29 |
| stlsaint | for linux | 06:29 |
| MatpickUbuntu | there we go, so that will help me make that USB bootable right? | 06:30 |
| stlsaint | yep, follow the directions on that site | 06:30 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: see on that site scroll down to the first pic where it says Diskimage | 06:30 |
| stlsaint | the second radial button on the pic | 06:30 |
| MatpickUbuntu | ok newbie questions.. i cant open the unebooting program i downloaded =/ | 06:31 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: make sure to select the ubcd iso there and where it says Type: make sure your USB shows up where you see C;\ | 06:31 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: lol | 06:31 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: open terminal: cd Downloads && sudo dpkg -i unetbootin.blah.blah | 06:32 |
| stlsaint | whatever the file is | 06:32 |
| MatpickUbuntu | is there a way i can share my screen or something haha im such an idiot i know | 06:32 |
| MatpickUbuntu | Could not display "/home/ubuntu/Downloads/unetbootin-linux-575". | 06:32 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: lol why are you trying to display | 06:33 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: first command: cd Downloads | 06:33 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: then enter: sudo dpkg -i unetbootin-linux-575 | 06:33 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: better yet right click the unetbootin file and choose install with software center | 06:33 |
| MatpickUbuntu | Errors were encountered while processing: unetbootin-linux-575 | 06:34 |
| MatpickUbuntu | i swear i have the worst luck :( | 06:34 |
| stlsaint | lol naw, you see on that site it has a button for MAC :D | 06:35 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: dont you have a MAC ;) | 06:35 |
| MatpickUbuntu | i should do it on my mac, good idea :D | 06:35 |
| MatpickUbuntu | my first linux ecperiences not so great :P but i wont give up | 06:35 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: naw its this TB drive format issue | 06:35 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: nothing at ubuntu's fault | 06:36 |
| MatpickUbuntu | I know | 06:37 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: you got it from here? | 06:37 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: wait, one more link | 06:37 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/index.html | 06:38 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: what you want is under the Hard Disk tools, on that link scroll down to the Partition management block | 06:39 |
| MatpickUbuntu | yeah | 06:39 |
| stlsaint | all the apps at your fingertips | 06:39 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: alright man hope it works out, im sure you will enjoy ubuntu | 06:39 |
| stlsaint | MatpickUbuntu: later man | 06:39 |
| MatpickUbuntu | see ya | 06:40 |
| MatpickUbuntu | thanks for the help | 06:40 |
| stlsaint | no prob | 06:41 |
| tenach | o. | 08:06 |
| tenach | o/ | 08:06 |
| bobweaver | Hello there I will be teaching a Class On How to find some troubles that you read about on the Ubuntu Forums and fixes ,How to make Packages (Debian) For these Troubles. Think about it as a crash cource in packaging. What we will be doing. We will be looking a a b43 driver(wireless broadcom) and the awaful "missing firmware" Bug. There is a fix for this on the forums But I think it would be best If There where Pacakages for theses | 15:52 |
| bobweaver | Fixs. Who knows maybe a team might form to bring Ubuntu Forums and Ubuntu Motu closer. Things that are needed Teamvier you can get deb for that here. http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/index.aspx | 15:52 |
| bobweaver | Other tools that are needed | 15:53 |
| bobweaver | ubuntu-dev-tools , dpkg-dev, dh-make, | 15:53 |
| bobweaver | WHEN June 14th 2012, 11:30 am 0700 UDT too 1pm | 15:53 |
| bobweaver | WHERE #ubuntu-classroom | 15:53 |
| Meridious | cool story bro | 15:53 |
| SergioMeneses | bobweaver, great!... | 16:14 |
| bobweaver | SergioMeneses, hope to see you there :) | 16:18 |
| SergioMeneses | bobweaver, me too xD | 16:19 |
| SergioMeneses | if I don't have to work I will be present ;) | 16:19 |
| raubvogel | bobweaver: I myself will probably be there | 16:54 |
| bobweaver | Good news then | 16:54 |
| Dandaman3452_ | have problem with ext4 filesystem ,sorry for outlinking but this will explain best without spaming http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/uy72d/help_needed_not_a_noob/ | 19:11 |
| Dandaman3452_ | Bump ^ | 19:18 |
| philipballew_ | must be a forums person | 19:20 |
| Meridious | So how is everybody today? | 20:55 |
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