[00:53] stgraber: yeah I thought that was already done, but if not yes i'd like that rolled in :) [00:54] stgraber: looks like you rejected 59.dsc? (if so, thanks) [00:56] hallyn: yep, it's been rejected [00:56] stgraber: thanks, updating and re-pushing :) [01:06] stgraber: there weren't any others i'm forgetting? (nothing was in my lxc.queue file, so i thought we were clear) [01:11] hallyn: there's the pivot path change but I'm not sure whether if it matches sru criteria [01:12] Hmm. [01:12] if only /mnt weren't such an obvious choice for subdirs for users to mount to from lxc.fstab :) [01:12] then i'd say obviously not [01:13] that one was just a one line change right? [01:15] nope! one line in each of two templates :) [01:15] ok i'll add it in. [01:16] right :) and that one has a pretty easy test case and no obvious regression potential, so that's safe for an sru :) [01:17] stgraber: hm. a conflict in applying that patch points out that in p we don't drop cap_mac_override (but in q we do) [01:18] remind me, is that what we want? [01:18] heh, and in q, we drop it for ubuntu, but not ubuntu-cloud [01:20] hallyn: I remember seeing that delta with the last SRU, not sure what we should actually drop and what's safe to keep [01:20] IIRC the rational for not dropping them is that apparmor will eventually work in containers [01:21] though I'm not sure whether it's safe to have that capability at the moment [01:26] stgraber: all right we should probably discuss that (perhaps with jjohansen) and make a decision, but for now i'm going to push what i have [01:26] (should if you'd like to take a peek first) [01:28] go ahead with the upload, I went through all the changes in quantal and I think that's all we want for that SRU [01:30] thx, good night [01:31] (then onto libvirt sru :( ) [01:40] hello [01:43] to setup an ubuntu cloud, i've been using maas and juju [01:44] do I still need openstack too? [01:45] depends if you want a virtual or hard cloud [01:46] or what exactly your definition of cloud is [01:46] i just got into this two weeks [01:46] I'm using virtual machine [01:46] so I can understand the technology more [01:47] a cloud provides service to a consumer where it is virtual [01:47] is that right? [01:47] there are hundreds of definitions of cloud [01:47] A cloud provides buzzword compliance with managers who have somehow got hold of a trade magazine [01:48] ok [01:48] DO NOT let your managers read things [01:48] I know cloud computing has been since the 70d [01:48] I mean 70s [01:48] it isn't a new technology [01:48] I just don't get why is it being embraced now [01:48] thats another discussion [01:48] hehe [01:48] I wish people would just STFU about it [01:49] I agree with you [01:49] grumble #ubuntu-cloud redirects here grumble [01:49] !language | twb [01:49] twb: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [01:50] EC2 has completely changed how I build companies. [01:50] stupid bot :) [01:50] erichammond, works for many things [01:50] I just want to deploy one [01:50] see if I can even set one up [01:51] I'm started to do a clound in cloud deloy currently [01:51] should be fun [01:51] i agree with you [01:51] cloud in cloud [01:51] i know [01:51] damn, can't spell tonight [01:51] what are you using to deploy your cloud? [01:52] openstack? [01:52] vmware esx [01:52] can you get that for free [01:52] I heard you could [01:52] this, will be a esx installs ontop of kvm [01:52] nope [01:52] kvm? [01:52] you can get a single server for free [01:53] no cloud provider offers direct esx access :( [01:53] wanted to use them for a dr [01:55] then what is openstack [01:55] do you need esx to deploy openstack then? [01:55] openstack from what I have heard is a new linux distro [01:56] what [01:56] are you serious? [01:56] I thought openstack is open source version ubuntu cloud [01:56] dunno, from my less than 60seconds of reading it yesterday [01:56] no [01:56] oh, it is [01:57] maybe I'm thinking of something else [01:57] yeah [01:57] hmm [01:57] its okay [01:57] it was open something [02:03] if i wanted to configure a local dns server that only forwards request i would still have to use bind9 ? [02:06] AnGrYfUrBy: there are many recursive resolvers. [02:06] AnGrYfUrBy: if you don't like bind, I suggest you try unbound [02:07] i just want a dns server so that i don't have to have any ports open on my net work and forward all machines to that dns server [02:11] It sounds like you don't really know what you're talking about [02:18] twb its my 1st dns server [02:18] that's why i don't really know what i am talking about [02:18] or firewalls [02:19] patdk-nb, i am sorry do dns can be blocked via a firewall [02:19] just block port 53 [02:19] done [02:19] yes, but blocking inbound 53 won't stop dns from working [02:19] unless you have a stateless firewall, and in that case, I suggest you need a new firewall [02:20] patdk-nb, you can blcok inbound and outbound tcp/udp [02:20] Yes, you should have a stateful firewall [02:20] also you can block it via access lists on cisco ios [02:20] i just don't want open ports when i can avoid it [02:21] Are you saying that because you just got your CCNA, or do you actually care about cisco [02:22] i don't care what router/firewall it is [02:22] i just want to prove a point you can block dns [02:22] adtran juniper etc... [02:27] access lists on cisco ios are stateful :) [02:27] but still, you have to have 1 rule to open up dns, if you use an internal dns server, or if you don't [02:28] do running one, just for firewall reasons, is just pointless [02:28] patdk-nb, i jsut want to limit the amount of ports open [02:29] it doesn't open a port [02:29] unless your serving dns [02:30] I am going to be serving dns local and if it needs to forward a request i only want those requests coming out of one place [02:30] the local dns server [02:31] none of that has to do anything with opening ports [02:55] Amaranth you online? [02:57] Anyone here familiar in working with the Ubuntu Software center API in JSOn format? [02:59] whats better ispconfig3 or zpanal [03:09] is it normal to have a 'system_bus_socket [03:09] in /root/? [03:24] Hey, I'm having some issues installing anything via aptitude... [03:24] http://text.testwiki.org/1016/ === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === noaXess1 is now known as noaXess [05:06] New bug: #986892 in mysql-5.5 (main) "mysql-server postrm breaks apparmor profile for later versions on purge" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/986892 === Frood_ is now known as Frood === stiv2k_ is now known as stiv2k [06:05] New bug: #1011951 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.8.1.dfsg.P1-4ubuntu0.1 failed to install/upgrade: underproces installerede post-installation-script returnerede afslutningsstatus 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1011951 === Frood is now known as Frood|zzz === railsraider_ is now known as railsraider === matsubara_ is now known as matsubara [07:06] good dauy [07:06] running 11.04 here [07:06] installed update-manager-core [07:06] and ran do-release-upgrade [07:07] but it reckons it wants to upgrade to oneiric [07:07] any way to upgrade directly to 12.04? [07:09] BuenGenio: no [07:09] from oneiric? [07:09] yes [07:09] You must upgrade through each version in turn [07:09] ok [07:09] is that OK? [07:10] i.e. no issues with stale/old/deprecated files? [07:10] well I'm not stopping you [07:10] NFI, I don't run non-LTS releases. [07:44] !hurry [07:44] Hello, can someone help me? [07:45] !anyone [07:45] A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. [07:49] twb, i have problem using realtek wireless on ubuntu server [07:55] hey! [07:55] who can answer my question? [07:55] tell [07:56] What question [07:56] twb, i have problem using realtek wireless on ubuntu server [07:56] how do i use it [07:56] New bug: #1011981 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.8.1.dfsg.P1-4ubuntu0.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1011981 [07:56] First you must describe the problem. [07:58] twb, i can't use dhcpd to obtain the IP address and I can't use password, it returns invalid argument [07:58] What diagnostics have you already tried? [07:59] nothing [07:59] Does the device appear in lspci ? [08:00] yes [08:00] Does it appear in ip link ? [08:02] twb, brb, i am installing ubuntu server once again. just a moment [08:02] Reinstalling does not help === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 === railsraider_ is now known as railsraider === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [08:19] twb [08:20] u there [08:21] Ormie: /names will tell you that. [08:21] ok [08:22] do you think it's crazy to install ubnuntu server on a laptop? [08:26] No. [08:30] who will do that? [08:30] I will because i don't like gui [08:30] gui is not so stable [08:32] Ormie: gui has been stable for some years ;) [08:32] ok [08:37] RoyK: um, years ago it was a different GUI. If by "GUI" you mean "DE" [08:38] twb, i done installing, now what shall i do? [08:39] That rather depends on what you want to achieve. [08:41] twb, iwant to use my realtek wireless card so ican use wireless network, now dhclient cannot obtain the IP and I can't specify the password on iwconfig [08:41] twb: twm is quite stable [08:44] Ormie: http://www.cyber.com.au/~twb/doc/wifi.txt is perhaps what you want [08:53] twb, ok, that solves the wpa problem. now I want to fix the dhclient problem [08:53] i can;t obtain my IP [08:56] twb [08:57] What diagnostics have you already tried? [09:11] twb, dude! i need help, i use no diagnostics. it just can't obtain IP. I think my wireless card doesn't support it [09:12] That is not a meaningful analysis. [09:12] Ormie: wifi.txt contains some debugging suggestions. Did you try them? [09:13] Ormie: you've been told many times in many channels - calm down and answer peoples questions [09:13] Ormie: they are trying to help you, if you just blindly rant/spew nonsense, you'll not get help, it's that simple [09:13] ikonia: he's 90% of the way to my killfile already [09:13] twb: hence why I'm about to try to save the final %10 [09:13] 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adpter (rev 01) [09:13] Ormie: stop [09:13] Ormie: are you connected to a network sucessfully [09:13] bye :( [09:13] no [09:14] Ormie: right, so that's why you are not getting an IP address [09:14] Ormie: you need to be connected to a network to get an IP addresss [09:14] ah [09:14] i know what you mean now [09:14] He means s/connected to/associated with/ [09:15] have a link, physical or wireless to a network [09:15] Which the wpa_supplicant debug line, or /var/log/syslog / daemon.log will tell you. [09:18] Ormie: I forgot to check -- is network-manager installed? It should NOT be installed. [09:23] how do I resume upgrade if my connection cut out in the middle of package installation? [09:23] i'm logged back in [09:23] can see a "precise" process using 40% cpu [09:23] so setup must still be running [09:25] BuenGenio: you should be able to see messages by doing 'tail -f /var/log/dpkg.log' if it's still installing things [09:25] ah [09:25] I was looking at /var/log/apt/history [09:26] BuenGenio: and you might investigate using 'screen' [09:26] but that isn't changing [09:26] what am I looking for in screen? [09:26] pinky says there are 2 logins [09:26] active [09:27] one presumably the one that got dropped... [09:27] Idle 00:29 [09:27] screen just gives you a way to resume your session if a connection goes out [09:27] screen pts/2 ? [09:27] or man screen? ^_^ [09:27] no man :( [09:27] BuenGenio: if you weren't using screen before, it won't help now, though :-/ [09:28] so what are my options? [09:28] BuenGenio: does /var/log/dpkg.log show activity? [09:28] yes [09:29] it's running [09:29] sorry no [09:29] it stopped on python-support [09:29] status installed [09:29] I imagine it might be waiting for input for one of the config dialogs [09:30] hold on [09:30] twb, it is not installed [09:30] * Ormie holds on for life [09:31] root@nebula:~# ps aux | grep release [09:31] root 1186 0.1 0.1 29972 1724 ? Ss 10:10 0:08 SCREEN -e \0\0 -L -c screenrc -S ubuntu-release-upgrade-screen-window /tmp/update-manager-XAuTo9/precise --mode=server --frontend=DistUpgradeViewText [09:31] root 1333 0.0 0.1 49692 1164 ? Ss 10:12 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -o PidFile=/var/run/release-upgrader-sshd.pid -p 1022 [09:31] does this mean it IS using screen? [09:32] BuenGenio: try 'screen -r' [09:32] cool that worked [09:32] I was trying screen -r localhost.2 [09:32] oh - awesome [09:32] and that wasn't working [09:32] yeats, legend [09:32] thanks [09:32] BuenGenio: glad it was that easy - interrupting an upgrade is never ideal, but it is surmountable :-) [09:33] cool, setup done [09:33] restarting [09:33] makes sense using screen for update then :) [09:33] cunning! [09:35] heh [09:37] twb! [09:37] twb [09:37] What? [09:38] network-manager is not installed [09:38] what shall i do? [09:39] Ormie: run the diagnostics I told you to run [09:39] what dianostics? [09:40] 19:12 Ormie: wifi.txt contains some debugging suggestions. Did you try them? 19:15 Which the wpa_supplicant debug line, or /var/log/syslog / daemon.log will tell you. [09:41] Ormie: why don't you just install a desktop, it's clear your not comfortable [09:42] ikonia, you are scaring me [09:43] ikonia, fine. so that you don't... [09:43] don't have to scare me [09:43] * Ormie shakes [09:43] Ormie: please stop with the nonsense [09:44] Ormie: I'm just suggesting you use a desktop of some sort as it's clear your not comfortable using your machine in it's current state/configuration [09:44] ok [09:45] you don't have to, you can continue blindly as you are, or you can install a desktop and just have things work and you can actually "use" your machine === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:37] Daviey: tsk tsk [10:37] Daviey: The use-memcache.patch file is missing in the horizon essex bzr repo. Can you sort that out, please? [10:39] Daviey: Protip (which you probably already know): If you use "bzr bd -S", only things that are properly in the bzr repo will be put into the source package. === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 [10:49] soren: well spotted [10:50] soren: if you note the date, you'll probably see why. :( [10:50] slack. [10:51] New bug: #1012055 in squid3 (main) "package squid3 3.1.19-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1012055 [10:52] Daviey: Ah, International Run-Around-In-Circles day. === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [11:04] Daviey: Sorry, are you going to sort it out now-ish, or should I make other arrangements? [11:10] soren: oh, sorry.. I can do it now [11:10] soren: didn't realise it was blocking you, sorry === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [11:12] soren: wait, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-dev/horizon/precise-essex ?? [11:13] I was a good cookie... [11:32] Daviey: You pushed a revision to bzr, but you didn't include the actual patch. [11:34] soren: oh, i am a plum [11:38] soren: pushed [11:43] soren: I only did that because it was your bday. [11:55] Daviey: You make me feel special. === garyposter is now known as gary_poster [11:57] Daviey: I have a script configured to pull from /essex (rather than /precise-essex). Is /precise-essex where it's at now? [11:58] Is dovecot still on 1.x on Ubuntu 12.04 ? [11:58] Daviey: Actually, sorry, no, I don't see you've where you've pushed it at all? [11:58] Womkes: We switched to 2.x in Oneiric. [11:59] Womkes: So no. [11:59] Womkes: 2.0.19, to be exact. [11:59] (In Precise) [11:59] soren: Now precise covers more than just essex, i think something had to be done. [11:59] http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/mail/dovecot-imapd ah I was reading it wrong [12:00] I saw the 1: [12:00] dont know what that meant exactly [12:00] Daviey: Is that a "yes"? [12:00] zul: can you confirm? [12:00] I'm not complaining, I just want to make sure I'm looking in the right place. [12:01] Do you know what that 1: stands for in front of the version soren ? [12:01] soren: not complaining ?! Are you feeling ok? [12:01] soren: I believe it to be the case, but would like to confirm :) [12:01] confirm what? [12:01] Daviey: It's my birthday. Don't get used to ut. [12:01] it. [12:02] zul: precise-essex is where precise essex commits happen under ubuntu-server-dev? [12:02] nah just essex [12:02] soren: Without complaint, you wouldn't be you. [12:02] Womkes: it's prefix, nothing else [12:02] Ok, thanks, just curious :) [12:02] Daviey: It's a proven method. [12:02] soren wouldnt be soren without a complaint [12:03] soren: happy birthday btw [12:03] Daviey: So, where did /you/ push this change? I don't see it in either of /essex or /precise-essex. [12:03] zul: ta [12:03] Daviey: I'd look at code.launchpad.net/~davewalker, but it times out. :( [12:04] soren: keep up at the back please... https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-dev/horizon/precise-essex/ [12:05] Daviey: Yeah, *just* turned up now. [12:05] yeah right... :D === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [12:05] Womkes: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version [12:06] Daviey: I have screen caps to prove it. [12:06] soren: If you want some 1:1 tuition on using the tools, give me a shout.. We can work something out. [12:06] Daviey: But thanks! [12:06] soren: might even give you a birthday discount :) [12:07] Daviey: Don't bother. I'll even throw in a rude gesture, because I'm such a happy customer. [12:07] :) [12:07] * soren goes for coffee while Jenkins does his thing [12:35] hi, any1 succeed to make a good file locking under samba please ? [12:36] (i call "good" , edition forbidden when a user already open the file) [12:38] stgraber: uh, hm. i guess i have a question on bug 231060. i thought dnsmasq would only attach to, say, lxcbr0 and virbr0. Not to every vnet0 and vethxxxxx in the initial ns [12:38] Launchpad bug 231060 in dnsmasq "packages dnsmasq and libvirt-bin conflict with each other" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/231060 [12:44] stgraber: oh no, and bug 959037 suggests that precise can't handle multiple except-interface lines [12:44] Launchpad bug 959037 in dnsmasq "NM-controlled dnsmasq prevents other DNS servers from running, yet network-manager doesn't Conflict with their packages" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/959037 [12:47] (quick test) [12:56] eh, seems to be working fine with two entries === Ursinha` is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Guest63012 === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [13:24] I need a support for Ubuntu Cloud (Private) Server, Anyone can help me? Thank you. [13:24] I need a support for Ubuntu Cloud (Private) Server, Anyone can help me? Thank you. P.M me [13:25] Budo: Its best to just ask your actual question here. [13:28] jamespage: ping [13:28] OK, i'm new in this, and i would like to install ubuntu Cloude server (Private)! Please can somebody tell me what i need for that, and give me some tutorials for that! Thank you very much. === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [13:30] OK, i'm new in this, and i would like to install ubuntu Cloude server (Private)! Please can somebody tell me what i need for that, and give me some tutorials for that! Thank you very much. Anyone!?? [13:31] Daviey: new snapshot for nova uploaded [13:32] Budo: I would look on askubuntu.com and see if you find anything there. [13:34] wasnt there a guide to setting up a private cloud on the community docs at one point...? [13:45] zul: super [13:48] hallyn: these bug don't match what the test results I had here, but looking at your comments, you seem to be getting the same behaviour I had [13:50] stgraber: which bugs? [13:53] * TheLordOfTime heard "bugs" mentioned [13:54] hallyn: the ones you mentioned earlier (231060 and 959037) [13:57] bdmurray: ping when you are around [13:58] stgraber: oh, got it. the comments there dont' match yoru results you're saying :) agreed. [13:59] (misunderstood) [14:00] hallyn: right, the comments from people other than you, don't match my results :) [14:03] all right, libvirt taken care of, at least i can test a merge of qemu 1.1. well probably be unsocial until server mtg time. === Frood|zzz is now known as Frood === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [14:21] !privmsg | Budo [14:21] Budo: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [14:22] That last sentence is my take on privmsgs without permission [14:22] (but meh) [14:23] I don't care about people sending me PM's if they've got something personal to say. If they PM me to ask about stuff that belongs in a channel... /That/ I do not care for. [14:24] that's why i pulled !privmsg :p [14:24] he was asking about something he asked in channel :P [14:28] lol i didn't kill you, omg sorry xD this is only IRC chat -.- === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [14:55] hi all, i am downloaded the lastest cdrom of ubuntu server, i start the installation, when the step is on: 'Detect Hardware' not continue (i only see a screen of color purple, and not continue, i a waitng around 20 minutes and not continue, anyone know why? or how to force to continue? thanks === Guest63012 is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Guest90889 === Guest90889 is now known as Ursula === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [15:23] Jak2000, you can hit 'alt f2' and then look at syslog or dmesg [15:23] it might tell you something [15:29] ok, i get this error: http://postimage.org/image/j3sb33347/ [15:34] Jak2000, did you say 'yes' ? [15:34] oh. from removble media. [15:36] Jak2000, well, i suspect what its telling you is that you have a tigon3 ethernet card, and without additional firmware that is not in the ISO, you can't use it. [15:37] i would have thought that it was in the iso kernel, but i've never done this. [15:38] it looks like you might be able to get the necessary file from linux-firmware at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware [15:41] roaksoax, pong [15:41] jamespage: better here [15:42] roaksoax, yep [15:43] so not really - I watch the pkg-javascript list in Debian but thats about it [15:43] jamespage: i see.. yeah I guess I [15:43] 'll just have to email to the pkg-javascript list [15:43] roaksoax, what do you need to package? [15:44] jamespage: it is packaged really. but rather rvba needs to acces the library as in library//build/*.js [15:44] jamespage: however they are installed as in library/*.js [15:44] jamespage: so was just wondering how to deal with that... (either create symlinks on the package itself, or should I have to do it externally from the js package) [15:49] smoser tahnsk i try [15:52] roaksoax: let me have a look so see if I can easily tell the JS side to use another prefix. [15:56] roaksoax: looks like it's easy to change that prefix after all. So I guess the current packaging structure might be good enough. Sorry about the confusion. [15:56] rvba: no worries :) [15:57] rvba: let me know how it goes with those packages so I can go forward and upload them to quantal [15:57] and then I'll prepare a maas release [15:58] roaksoax: There isn't much I need to test really I'll simply change the location of the yui files and tweak that prefix. But I'll test it just for safety. [15:59] rvba: awesome! [16:01] roaksoax: the only thing that puzzles me is the order: I'll be able to commit the changes to use the package only when the package will be available both in precise and quantal (otherwise I'll break our dev setup). [16:02] rvba: so I guess that it should be checked whether we have the installed version available, if not use the local ones. As the only reason why these packages would hit precise would be maas related (and /or due to a backport) [16:03] but backports are not enabled by default [16:04] roaksoax: ok, this will require a little bit more work on my side but nothing crazy and I guess we don't really have a choice here. [16:04] rvba: for now, in packaging, we can just have a "patch" that removes the local copies of the libraries [16:05] roaksoax: ok. [16:06] roaksoax: I just tested it manually: changing the prefix plus changing the YUI root works. I'm now using the packaged JS files locally. [16:07] roaksoax: tomorrow I'll work on a proper branch and get it landed. I'll add a configuration setting to use the packaged version or the local one. [16:07] roaksoax: or maybe I'll just detect the presence of the packaged files as you suggest. [16:09] smoser i answered YES but continue asking me, can i answer NO ? [16:09] well what happens hwen you answer yes? [16:09] reask me the question (after 15,20 minutes) [16:09] (i suppose you can answer 'no', but i suspect you wont have networking during the install). [16:09] hm... [16:09]