[00:24] [Stuart Langridge] Ten love songs specifically by Dolly Parton all of which are better than I Will Always Love You - http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2012/06/11/ten-love-songs-specifically-by-dolly-parton-all-of-which-are-better-than-i-will-always-love-you [01:16] having a problem setting up my HP Photosmart C4780 printer in 12.04 via USB. Isntalled hplip but still no luck. Anyone able help? [01:24] [Jono Bacon] Ubuntu App Developer Goings On - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/06/12/ubuntu-app-developer-goings-on/ [01:38] Anyone about who knows how to set up netbooting and is willing to help me for a little while? :) [04:56] Azelphur: at 3:38am? :P [04:56] or 6am [04:56] *shrug* [04:59] but.. netbooting [04:59] PXE? [04:59] something like that [05:00] basically I just have a .img file and want everything to boot off it [05:00] an .img file.. hmm [05:01] Azelphur: I'm assuming you've found http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/PXELINUX [05:01] Azelphur: and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto [05:02] I know from experience that DisklessUbuntuHowto is extremely wrong and out of date [05:02] ok [05:02] but the first one could be good :) [05:02] that's the problem, a lot of the documentation is really out of date [05:02] that's "client side" (bootloader that's pushed over PXE) [05:02] and doesn't work with the software that ships with modern distros [05:03] This then? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer [05:04] that could be fun too :) [05:04] oops :P [05:25] [Jono Bacon] The Art of Community Second Edition Released - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/06/12/the-art-of-community-second-edition-released/ [06:52] hey everyone [06:59] morning all [07:12] Morning, another beautiful day [07:42] Morning all [08:04] aloha [08:04] Morning czajkowski [08:04] & diplo [08:05] morning everyone === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk_away_afk === schwuk_away_afk is now known as schwuk [08:07] popey, Was the "question mark" icon for an unknown app meant to disappear in recent unity updates? [08:08] I just have a transparent icon in it's place now, it just looks like an empty patch in the quickbar [08:09] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10616420/missing-question-icon.png [08:18] how cold does it have to be to see your own breath? [08:20] mungojerry: Depends how humid it is [08:20] I guess you're cold [08:31] I was a bit cold last night, leather sofa was bloody cold and kids said they were cold and that rarely happens [08:31] So had a couple hours of heating :) [08:33] I was the opposite, roasting, shorts on, door wide open until about 10pm [08:34] and wasn't as if I was doing anything to keep me warm, was just sat on the couch watching tv [08:34] Morning all! :D [08:36] I normally am, either coming down with something or it was just bloody cold :) [08:36] awilkins: i have seen that also, but not often [08:36] popey, I just can't be bothered to re-login to see if it happens again [08:37] awilkins: bug 772986 [08:37] Launchpad bug 772986 in unity "Unity launcher single missing/invisible/blank icon" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/772986 [08:37] popey, This is nvidia hardware with the proprietary driver if it's any help [08:38] How abou this one : if you have a double-wide window carefully arranged to occupy the full screen width, clicking it's launcher icon moves it's right edge to the right hand screen [08:39] e.g. using rdesktop with specified geometry 3360 wide on a dual 1680x1050 screen [08:40] So you end up with half on this desktop, half on the next [08:42] yeah, windows moving about is a pain [08:42] i get that when windows are overhanging one desktop to another [08:43] thats a compiz bug IMO and probably already filed but under some other description [08:43] bug 874146 perhaps [08:43] Launchpad bug 874146 in compiz (Ubuntu) "New windows open on the wrong monitor" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/874146 [08:45] popey, Oh the thing where you drag to a second window with different (smaller) geometry [08:45] I see that at work where my second monitor is smaller than first, when window is larger than second monitor [08:45] It snaps back to the first monitor [08:46] Or jumps a screen-width or so to the right off the screen and you have to drag it back [08:46] yes [08:46] i get that a fair bit [08:46] I don't get this at home where my screens are the same geometry [08:47] it seems to have to fit on the smaller monitor entirely for the grid snap thing to put it on that monitor [08:47] Yes, one workaround is to manually resize the window smaller before you drag it [08:47] I often pull a maximised window from the big monitor and want to maximise it on the smaller one using the top bar and grid snap [08:48] Likewise [08:50] hello [08:52] Morning TheFred [08:53] Good morning === schwuk is now known as schwuk_afk [09:03] * DJones debates, flowers or chocolates for an anniversary [09:04] Beep [09:04] boop [09:04] (C) Acorn [09:04] :) [09:06] Hayley wasn't too impressed with my new Facebook photos [09:08] * popey hasn't seen them [09:08] :O [09:08] Check my timeline [09:08] haha [09:09] I think having a shave improved the 2nd one [09:09] * TheFred is still trying to boot himself this morning [09:10] Has anybody managed to confirm the mysql login thing on ubuntu? [09:10] yes [09:10] while true;do mysql -u root -pfoo;done [09:11] the fix is released, an update sorts it out [09:11] Not managed to get in on any of my servers yet [09:11] Indeed, not installed it everywhere yet. I want to see it happen! [09:12] worked fine on my laptop running precise until I updated it [09:13] I'm trying to make it happen on my bytemark server running 10.04 [09:13] servers set to automatically apply security updates will already be fixed [09:13] * popey tests cheese [09:14] bigcalm: see my timeline ☺ [09:14] popey: you are making my phone buzz, stop it! [09:14] excellent [09:15] popey: I think I'm in love! [09:15] * bigcalm cracks up [09:16] I'm surprised by the negative comments on the cat video [09:16] popey: can it do that on video too? [09:16] popey: Because hangouts :) === schwuk_afk is now known as schwuk [09:38] good morning everyone. [09:48] good morning brobostigon [09:48] good morning TheFred [09:49] Good morning paracetamol [09:49] yeah, mixed with codeine here. [09:50] I had a sneaky McD's breakfast wrap. I think this is karma [09:52] ah. [09:53] meh - there's a few tutorials about getting starting with quickly for developing ubuntu applications, but when i run quickly edit i get gedit with all the python et al opened, but im really unsure where *my* code should go [09:53] morning morning morning [09:55] morning mattt [09:57] hey brobostigon, how you today ? [09:59] http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16245551 good to see [10:00] morning all [10:00] czajkowski: prod, how's your back === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:00] davmor2: sore :/ [10:01] czajkowski: No wonder you're back is sore is davmor2 keeps prodding it [10:02] DJones: czajkowski will happily confirm I only ever prod her upper arm [10:03] yes this is true and then I end up with a bruise [10:03] Ouch [10:03] mattt: same as yesterday, but my bad skin, that was yesterday, is alittle more broken, and you? [10:09] brobostigon: woah, a lot of info [10:09] brobostigon: i'm pretty good ... why the bad skin? [10:09] mattt: where? [10:10] mattt: i have had a runny nose etc, so i probably had bugs inside me, and it has started to affect my eczema, as the type of eczema i have is atopic, it is more vulneralbe than normal to such infection. [10:23] DJones: ah I bruise really easily [10:24] czajkowski: That sounds like my wife, she bruises very easily, sometimes it looks like I've been beating her up when the dog has jumped on her [10:25] mum is the same, she gets some odd looks at times, she could walk into the side of a table and 15 mins later be up in a bruise [10:25] looks bad :( [10:25] Sounds the same [10:26] low in iron [10:26] more meat! [10:27] She's definatly not a vegetarian [10:27] i bruise easily [10:27] great excuse for me to go to those all you can eat brazil places :P [10:28] mattt: oh yes they are nice [10:28] we go to them in london down at the O2 [10:28] come away very stuffed [10:29] i've only been to one of those [10:29] in cowley [10:29] it was a bit dingy, but there was lots of meat [10:37] Is it bad that most of the time these days when I see a new Apple/Google/Microsoft release I just go "Oh, new problems" and ignore it? [10:39] * popey shrugs [10:52] I've just come back from the mortagge advisor with a very odd looking popey staring at me :( [10:54] popey: those pics are a bit um.... disturbing :) [10:55] czajkowski: Hayley didn't like my photos either [10:58] bigcalm: heh [11:03] hello everybody! i was writing on this chat some days ago 'cause i found a BUG during the installation of UBUNTU 12.04 on my deskpc Fujitsu ESPRIMO HP300! [11:04] actually is NOT possible for me to initiate the installation process 'cause i recived a kernel failure! [11:05] I wanna know if is it possible that this problem is already pointed out! [11:06] in addition i want to say that my pc is NEW! i bought it on this weekend and i try to install UBUNTU 12.04 from the same cd that i used with my laptop. [11:08] no devices were plugin, no usb, and everything new. [11:09] do a search on launchpad.com/ubuntu within the bugs. [11:09] i put the CD, the computer starts reading the cd, icons on screen are showed...the keyboard lights start to flashing and the pc freeze with some kernel-error! [11:10] ingegnere_: do a search on launchpad.com/ubuntu within the bugs. [11:10] i did it without significant result! so... [11:10] file a new one, :) [11:10] ingegnere_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu [11:11] i have tryied with two different cd...same problem! === schwuk is now known as schwuk_afk [11:15] ingegnere_: report the bug so and see what happens from there [11:15] ingegnere_: where did you get the cd? [11:15] ok! i'm doing it! ;) === schwuk_afk is now known as schwuk [11:31] ok you can find my message in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu! [11:31] thank you! [11:31] which bug number? [11:32] Bug #1012071 [11:32] Launchpad bug 1012071 in Ubuntu "FUJITSU ESPRIMO HP300" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1012071 [11:34] ingegnere_: where did you get the ubuntu cd from ?? [12:25] mondo is still alive and kicking : http://www.mondorescue.org/downloads.shtml [12:27] but has anyone been able to install mondo's gpg key under ubuntu 12.04 and the install mondo without any authentication errors? [12:28] in bash script, how can I echo variables into a file? [12:28] putting the echo in "" or '' causes the variable not to be rea [12:29] echo $VARIABLE >> file.txt ? [12:30] I'm trying to [12:30] Works fine for me, just made sure [12:30] so to test i did echo $PATH >> file.txt [12:33] echo 'SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR(address)=="$mac_add", ATTR(dev_id)=="0x0", ATTR(type)=="1". KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="$int_add"' >> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistant-net.rules [12:33] so not quiute so simple as just variable... [12:33] is $PATH set at this time, diplo? [12:36] Well you didn't say that :D [12:37] Funnily enough I was playing with udev rules the other day albeit on CentOS [12:37] hehe [12:37] i need to script to add new udev rules [12:37] but all I take it all the actions need "" around them [12:37] and then with the variable in there too [12:37] I was tring to write something special/rubbish for usb pen drives [12:37] im not doing it right [12:38] Then thought sod it and wrote a bash script and bodged it [12:38] I had loads of issues with mine bubu\a think it's why I gave up ( been a while ) [12:38] And all the blog posts were a few years old [12:38] See if I can remember what I did now [12:38] lol [12:39] thx [12:39] :) [12:39] this would literally be falling over at the first hurdle of probably a very long script [12:39] :( [12:53] any luck diplo ? [12:56] gosh, someone living in London can have RMS as a houseguest [12:56] NO PARROTS! [12:58] * davmor2 hears the hoards racing to their local pet shop to get a parrot [13:06] AlanBell: did he find his passport so he can fly? [13:06] popey: do you have a new addition to the pet family ? [13:07] not yet [13:07] close :) [13:08] I am sure he will sort out a new passport (after being fingerprinted and iris scanned and photographed and all that put on an RFID chip) [13:09] and if he objects he may be stranded :) [13:13] Hi, I'm having an issue with the HUD reading the menubar from a PyGObject script. Which is the best IRC channel to ask for assistance? Thanks, Andy [13:15] ahayzen, probably #ubuntu-unity [13:15] gord: Thanks :) [13:28] bubu\a: Sorry stuck on the phone for last 20 mins [13:29] Not found anything yet sorry === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [13:36] how long does the upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 take? how large is the download size? [13:36] depends how much stuff you have installed on 11.10 [13:36] probably a gig or so of download at least [13:38] 1 gb? why? the normal full installation is less than that right? [13:39] if you haven't installed anything since installing 11.10, then it'll be around the same size as a cd [13:40] if you installed more stuff, it'll need to get more package to upgrade that stuff, so that inflates the download size [13:41] no i hv installed many other things. ok. And while upgrading if it is interrupted in between, what are the consequences? [13:42] the consequences will never be the same [13:43] meet: interrupted how? [13:43] downloaded interrupted? that should be OK [13:43] if it is interrupted whilst downloading packages you might be OK [13:43] if you shut off your system mid way through an upgrade tho ... well ....... [13:44] interrupting whilst installing and configuring packages is less likely to have a pleasant outcome [13:45] like power failure or internet disconnection or manually if i click cancel etc.. [13:46] power failure is what i'd be concerned about [13:46] it downloads updates in batches then will try to apply them i believe [13:46] so if you have a failed download or whatever, the system will be able to determine that and act accordingly [13:46] btw i got the window asking whether i want to start with the upgrade.. i got a slow connection.. it says 4 hrs time will be needed.. so i guess i will put it up at night.. so at this stage if i cancel.. will it again start from the scratch? [13:47] no, it keeps the downloads [13:48] ok. in the checklist preparing upgrade and setting software channels is checked. It is at the download package stage. i am planning to cancel it now and redo at night? will it be fine? [14:03] probably [14:05] Anyone got any suggestions as to why mount -a could fail to load something from fstab [14:05] noauto tag [14:05] general idea, loads by doing mount /dev/sdb1 [14:05] ah, good point [14:05] :D [14:06] I had to put that in there, hmmm [14:06] I'll just hard code /dev/sdb1 for now until I write a better solution, cheers ali1234 === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === schwuk is now known as schwuk_afk [14:34] "by linking social content and sharing directly to advanced business intelligence you can find the unicorn" === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [14:35] ali1234, http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/examples/gobbledygook-generator.html ? [14:46] mungojerry: Only geeks stuck in the 90s still go for responsive management concepts. nice === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === schwuk_afk is now known as schwuk [16:09] Has anybody used bandwidthd or darkstat? If so, which would you recommend? If anybody has used any bandwidth monitoring software I'd also like to know about what you use. =] [16:10] MartijnVdS: have you seen songkick is now available for android? [16:11] kvarley: think i used vnstat at one point [16:12] mattt: Thanks, the ones I mentioned have web interfaces which would be more useful for the current situation. However, I think I may use this vnStat on my system! Thanks =] [16:13] I used bandwidthd, was easy to setup.... but didn't really do what I wanted [16:14] hamitron: What did you want? And what do you think about security of it? Like all your data passes through it, so any chance of them stealing details, etc? I see its open source so it should be fine but you know - never can be too careful. [16:15] I didn't need to really consider security [16:15] it was just to monitor youtube usage [16:15] ;) [16:15] I can't remember what it didn't do [16:16] does it maybe not support dynamic ip clients or something? [16:16] hamitron: That may be it. I see IPs but not MACs on screenshots. [16:17] at the time, it was hassle, and I went for cutting the junk to maintain [16:17] with everything, to reduce work on a network that didn't matter === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [16:42] Muhahahaha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP1hrqIk_0Q&feature=related [16:44] anyone know where I can get reasonable rack cabinets, +- 12U -> 24U ? [16:44] used ones [16:48] Hi [16:48] Anyone using cssh tool? [17:05] cluster ssh, kaushal? === psst_ is now known as psst === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [17:22] dwatkins: yes [17:23] dwatkins: I am running cluster ssh in Ubuntu 11.10 using unity desktop shell [17:24] greetings [17:24] when i switch tab to other application and i return to cluster ssh to do a retile or press alt-r it doesnot align the xterm windows [17:24] Any clue? [17:26] sorry no, I don't use unity. [17:26] perhaps someone else has ideas, or you could ask on #ubuntu [17:26] ok [17:26] sure [17:26] dwatkins: Thanks [17:38] kvarley: can you put an ntp client on your openelec image please ☺ [17:38] hello livingdaylight [17:45] popey: http://www.ladyada.net/learn/breakoutplus/ds1307rtc.html [17:46] http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/rtc/rtc-ds1307.c [17:49] happy days [17:49] I used to support machines which had Dallas chips on the motherboard which had to be moved between boards when they were replaced. [17:50] The batteries were built into the chip, so they would eventually need replacing, too. [17:51] kaushal: that's probably bug 916542 [17:51] Launchpad bug 916542 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity spread "randomly" shuffles overlapping windows" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/916542 [17:51] popey: Does adding ntp to the cmdline.txt file work? [17:51] ali1234: ok [17:52] kvarley: dunno, will try [17:52] also [17:52] it refuses to connect to my home linux box runnings amba [17:52] *samba [17:53] "connection refused" [17:55] hi popey [17:56] popey: Hmm, I'll have a look. I suspect it may be because certain things aren't in the cmdline.txt file. I haven't changed any binary files, just merely packaged the most basic form of OpenELEC into an image with a script so it may be a case of missing config! =] [17:57] wonder if it's timing out [17:57] well, it does give timeout messages [17:57] I got a new hd on which I installed Ubuntu. However, the most recent disc I had on me was v. 10.10 I subsequently upgraded distro by distro, i.e. 11.04 11.10, until I reached 12.04. Since then I got the recent LinuxFormat dvd with 12.04 on it. I wondered whether I should do a fresh install or am I fine? My concern is that the integrity of the installation could get corrupted by upgrading that many times [17:58] kvarley: is there any way I can get a shell open on it? [17:58] livingdaylight: "if it aint broke" [17:58] popey: Ctrl + Alt + F2 doesn't work? [17:59] nope [17:59] * kvarley gets his pi [17:59] popey, it appears fine, but wondered whether things might be half-broke by that many upgrades. [18:00] not really [18:02] ok, thx [18:15] * davmor2 is playing England: The Album 2010 as he is feeling particularly buoyed up at the moment [18:16] "England: The Album 2010"? [18:16] Is that an album full of versions of God Save the Queen and Rule Britannia? [18:17] Danny Boy [18:17] Perhaps the theme tunr from Only Fools and Horses is on the B-side. [18:18] dwatkins: and Auld Lang Syne as hidden bonus track :P [18:19] dwatkins: just to annoy ;) [18:19] MartijnVdS: http://www.covershut.com/back_covers/England-The-Album-2010-Back-Cover-42243.jpg [18:20] davmor2: you get Queen as well? :) [18:20] davmor2: http://www.bol.com/nl/p/538-wk-2010-voetbal/1000004008663311/#product_images [18:20] MartijnVdS: nah, half the people don't know the words [18:20] dwatkins: no but it'll annoy the Scots, on a CD called "England: The Album" ;) [18:21] the scots will just make their own version [18:21] There will be at least one Pretenders song on it. [18:22] MartijnVdS: Shockingly they were an English Group :) We've been sing we are the champions around football grounds as long as the song has been out :) [18:22] davmor2: so have the Dutch :P [18:22] davmor2: so has _anyone_ really ;) [18:23] MartijnVdS: Yeah but we heard the song before the rest of the world :D [18:25] spotify:user:ertje20:playlist:2af1V2qRAu208iYuADOtQj [18:26] we get "classics" like that [18:27] MartijnVdS: :) === issyl0 is now known as Guest2346 === issyl0_ is now known as Guest21941 [19:06] * Laney eyes bitfolk [19:08] ? [19:09] nutty packet loss [19:09] try mtr orangesquash.org.uk [19:10] ouch, yeah Laney [19:11] is the internet broken today? [19:11] Not my internets [19:11] the magic of TCP is keeping my IRC alive! [19:11] also mosh [19:13] spot the bitfolk users ☺ [19:13] * Laney wonders if it's better [19:13] wouldn't that be "bitfolks"? [19:13] or "bitfolkies" [19:14] or just "bit folk" [19:14] hmmm, I've not tried mtr since switching to BeThere, I get brokenness on the first few (internal) hops === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [19:23] theres a lib called liblastfm now depending on how you see it initial will make you wonder whether it is a radio station of near swearing and lies, or people in beds being blown up [19:24] Looks like I might be getting my boss' Thinkpad x301 [19:24] When, no idea. Something to look forward to though [19:24] blast.fm! [19:25] bigcalm: li-blast.fm [19:26] Damn, don't think I can buy an iPad2 case before work place day on Thursday [19:26] Maybe it'll be ok in the laptop bag [19:30] bigcalm: I keep mine in a neoprene netbook bag [19:30] That's a good idea [19:30] I have a sturdy leather case that also acts as a stand for my Motorola Xoom [19:30] bigcalm: Why do you have an ipad 2 [19:31] davmor2: app testing [19:31] bigcalm: Yeah, yeah, yeah ;) [19:32] davmor2: I really feel nothing towards it. Which is a shame as it cost me enough. I thought I would be excited to have a new toy. Nothing... [19:33] i don't get what is exciting about tablets [19:34] they are just big phones that can't make phone calls [19:34] or small computers with no keyboard [19:34] no, that's exactly what they aren't [19:34] Depends how you use them [19:34] oh? [19:34] they're not powerful enough to run modern operating systems [19:35] I have an TerminalIDE on my Xoom. Dev wherever I go :) [19:35] they're also not equivalent to older computers because they lack technical documentation [19:35] at best they are a thin client for a real OS [19:35] but what's exciting about that? [19:35] ali1234: yes they are, quad cores at 1.5ghz is more than enough [19:35] it's as exciting as a monitor [19:36] no, quad core ARMs at 1.5ghz is not powerful enough [19:36] quad core x86-64 at 3GHz is a real computer [19:36] besides, there's no software on a tablet that can really take advantage of multiple cores [19:37] it's not like they can do multitasking, run productivity software or anything really [19:39] I still find it fascinating that I can emulate a BBC Micro on my phone. [19:39] (Beebdroid) [19:39] This might do me http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/19517437/-/Product.html [19:39] you can emulate anything up to a playstation 1 on most android phones [19:40] of course playing games on a touchscreen is totally awful [19:40] yeah, I gather there are some bluetooth gamepads available, not sure how many nor if they're any good [19:41] Yep, I hate playing Angry Birds, Cut the Rope, Where's my Water, etc on my tablets [19:41] yeah there's one problem with that [19:41] you;re sitting on the bus playing sonic with your bluetooth controller [19:41] that means you're not touching the phone [19:41] that means some scally can grab it and run [19:42] bigcalm: why? [19:42] popey: sarcasm [19:42] oh [19:43] popey: I was gonna say he missed the sarcasm tags [19:43] * bigcalm tickles popey [19:43] oooh [19:44] raspberry pi now has a beta stackexchange site like askubuntu [19:44] ali1234: I guess it might be handy to have some way to attach it to yourself, not sure if many phones have that [19:44] popey: i saw that. pointless [19:44] popey: excellent, I was wondering what's going on with the graphics stack [19:45] Most Japanese phones have a point on the device that allows you to attach phone charms - they are nuts for them over there [19:45] every answer will be either "yes, see this identical question about debian" or "no" [19:45] bigcalm: I was someone with a huge mirror on their phone once, they kept looking at themselves in it, too [19:45] Haha [19:47] *saw [19:47] oops [19:47] she might as well have gotten one of those mirrored phone screen covers [19:49] phones have cameras these days [19:50] they could just use the front-facing camera [19:56] is there a problem on the wider internets, or does my ISP just not enjoy sending back traceroute pings to the mtr command? [19:58] yes [19:59] no problems on the Dutch interwebs [19:59] No problems from NL to Bytemark [19:59] (on ipv6)! [20:01] perhaps it's just BeThere's routers not replying to mtr [20:34] what is the best way to look at a 200mb + text file from terminal? [20:35] thought nano was good but its choking on it [20:35] more or less [20:35] :/ [20:35] is that a command? [20:35] or it is more or less good [20:36] those are both commands. [20:36] :) [20:36]