[06:55] <Kilos> morning clever people
[06:55] <Kilos> yo superfly 
[07:00] <charlvn> good morning all
[07:00] <Kilos> yo charlvn 
[07:17] <charlvn> hin Kilos 
[07:17] <charlvn> *hi
[07:28] <superfly> o/
[07:29] <charlvn> hi superfly 
[07:29] <superfly> hi charlvn
[07:30]  * superfly has a good chuckle and the current events surrounding The Oatmeal
[12:13] <zeref> :YaawwN:
[16:08] <Kilos> yo superfly and other geeky types
[16:09] <Kilos> hi charlise
[16:09] <Kilos> hehe
[16:09] <zeref> Herro, has anybody had problems with vlc with *buntu 12.04?
[16:10] <Kilos> hi zeref did you ask maaz?
[16:10] <Kilos> Maaz, google problems with VLC on ubuntu 12.04
[16:10] <Maaz> Kilos: "Install VLC 2.0.1 on Ubuntu 12.04 Precise/11.10 Oneiric/Linux Mint ..." http://www.noobslab.com/2012/03/install-vlc-201-on-ubuntu-1204.html :: "The VideoLAN Forums • View topic - VLC crashing on Ubuntu 12.04 ..." http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=99037 :: "12.04 - Vaio VGN-SZ71WN - Ubuntu 12.04LTS/64 - VLC freezes or ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/140840/vaio-vgn-sz71wn-ubuntu-12-04lts-64-vlc-freezes-or-reboots-w
[16:11] <Kilos> what kinda probs are you having
[16:15] <zeref> keep getting no suitable decoder module when playing any vid
[16:17] <Kilos> maybe there are some extensions or plugins you need to get still
[16:17] <Kilos> look in synaptic whats installed and what else is available
[16:18] <Kilos> oh i dunno if 12.04 has synaptic still
[16:20] <zeref> all the plugs are installed, sounds plays, no video
[16:25] <Kilos> eish
[16:26] <Kilos> what kinda video format is it zeref or do all the different types do the same
[16:27] <Kilos> i had some i got of my boets win7 lappy i had to convert before they would work
[16:29] <zeref> normal vids: .avi .mkv .mp4
[16:29] <Kilos> wow all of them?
[16:29] <zeref> yebo
[16:29] <Kilos> try sudo aptitude reinstall vlc
[16:30] <Kilos> maybe its not a good install
[16:31] <Kilos> if you dont have aptitude use apt-get install vlc --reinstall
[16:31] <zeref> been there, done that :(
[16:31] <Kilos> ouch
[16:32] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn you found now
[16:33] <Kilos> Maaz, google vlc no video on ubuntu 12.04
[16:33] <Maaz> Kilos: "[ubuntu] No digital passthrough with VLC 2.01 on 12.04 - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1972705 :: "11.10 - Can't change global default video player to VLC? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/119244/cant-change-global-default-video-player-to-vlc :: "Black screen when playing a movie in VLC player in Kubuntu 12.04 ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/124578/black-screen-when-playing-a-movie-in-vlc-pl
[16:37] <Kilos> zeref,  join #videolan
[16:37] <Kilos> someone there should know
[16:38] <Kilos> and there are lotsa peeps there
[16:41] <Kilos> maybe its one of those gstreamer thingies
[16:51]  * Kilos peers at the lurkers
[17:09] <charlvn> hi kilos
[17:20] <Kilos> hi charlvn 
[17:20] <superfly> zeref: do you have VLC installed from a PPA?
[17:22] <zeref> nope
[17:23] <Kilos> superfly, does vlc also use those gstreamer good bad ugly files?
[17:24] <superfly> Kilos: no, it uses it's own codecs
[17:24] <Kilos> ah ty
[17:25] <superfly> zeref: http://pastebin.com/qY8qiJ2s
[17:27] <nuvolari_> o/ aloha
[17:27] <Kilos> yo nuvolari_ 
[17:27] <nuvolari_> hi oom Kilos 
[17:27] <nuvolari_> hmm
[17:27] <nuvolari> there, not dragging myself on the ground
[17:27] <Kilos> lol
[17:28] <nuvolari> Kilos: did you solve that video issue oom?
[17:28] <Kilos> nope its zeref
[17:28] <Kilos> my vlc works kiff
[17:28] <nuvolari> I had a similar issue where mplayer did not play video
[17:29] <nuvolari> it turns out that by default the wrong video codec was selected
[17:29] <Kilos> his vlc cant play any videos
[17:29] <Kilos> audio only
[17:29] <charlvn> yeah i can't say i have had that issue either
[17:30] <charlvn> if you ask me you people are playing weird pirated stuff :)
[17:30] <Kilos> hehe
[17:34] <zeref> lol
[17:35] <Kilos> zeref, what does the default media player do with them vids?
[17:35] <Kilos> mplayer or so
[17:36] <Kilos> wb nlsthzn 
[17:37] <zeref> totem works fine
[17:37] <Kilos> oh my
[17:38] <Kilos> if you look at vlc in synaptic and right click it does it show other files recommended
[17:42] <zeref> nope
[17:42] <Kilos> eish
[17:42] <Kilos> must be a simple thing missing
[17:45] <zeref> yeah
[17:46] <Kilos> vlc-plugin-sdl
[17:46] <Kilos> normally vlc works right away
[17:47] <Kilos> are mthe vids on dvd or files in your pc?
[17:47] <Kilos> *the
[17:49] <zeref> ?
[17:50] <Kilos> sdl video and audio output for vlc
[17:50] <Kilos> apt-get install vlc-plugin-sdl
[17:52] <Kilos> where are all the clever guys
[17:53] <zeref> nope, sigh
[17:53] <Kilos> eeish
[17:53] <Kilos> you looked in all the settings hey?
[17:53] <Kilos> maybe vids turned ofgf
[17:53] <Kilos> off
[17:53] <zeref> what are you video settings for vlc, specifically the output?
[17:53] <zeref> is it set to default?
[17:54] <Kilos> normally yes
[17:55] <Kilos> tools video
[17:55] <Kilos> maybe is not enabled
[17:56] <Kilos> tools preferences
[17:58] <Kilos> Banlam, bakuman help us
[17:59] <bakuman> mine just works
[17:59] <Kilos> weird hey? vlc normally just works
[18:00] <Kilos> zeref, did you look in tools preferences video?
[18:01] <Kilos> enable video must be ticked
[18:01] <Kilos> yo smile 
[18:03] <smile> hi Kilos 
[18:03] <smile> :D
[18:03] <smile> keyboard working again ;)
[18:03] <smile> missed you :o
[18:03] <smile> & sorry for smileys. you don't like them?
[18:04] <Kilos> lol not a prob
[18:04] <smile> hug!
[18:04] <Kilos> was your keyboard giving probs?
[18:06] <smile> yes.. udev problems
[18:06]  * Banlam still uses 10.04
[18:06] <Kilos> ouch
[18:06] <Banlam> and vlc just works
[18:07] <Kilos> banlam im on 10.10 and vlc just works
[18:07] <smile> Similar @ me: " To get my keyboard and my mouse under X server, I must unplug them and plug them back.
[18:07] <smile> This issue appeared after upgrading udev to 167-1."
[18:07] <Kilos> thats why its hard to help guys with 12.04
[18:07] <smile> Kilos: just deleted some folders & it works
[18:07] <smile> I had to reboot times to fix all errors
[18:08] <Kilos> would sudo dpkg --configure -a not have worked
[18:08] <smile> no, because it's not possible to downgrade :s
[18:08] <Kilos> or that fixbroken command
[18:09] <Kilos> eina
[18:09] <smile> it was not broken, there was a bug in the package udev
[18:09] <Kilos> how did you know what to delete
[18:12] <smile> Kilos: after searching for an hour I picked up some commands :)
[18:12] <Kilos> hehe
[18:12] <smile> (on windows :s )
[18:12] <Kilos> smile, are you using 12.04?
[18:13] <Kilos> eeek
[18:13] <smile> Kilos: no. ;)
[18:13] <smile> i'm using linux mint debian
[18:13] <Kilos> windows is a swear word here
[18:13] <smile> rolling release (with debian unstable enabled, which was the cause of my problem)
[18:13] <smile> Kilos: sorry
[18:13] <smile> won't say it again.
[18:13] <Kilos> lol just joking man
[18:13] <smile> we'll say "glass" OS :p
[18:14] <Kilos> haha
[18:14] <Kilos> yo psydroid 
[18:14] <smile> Kilos: of windhoos! :D
[18:15] <Kilos> hehe
[18:15] <Kilos> i call it winsucks
[18:15] <Kilos> and microstinks
[18:15] <smile> xD
[18:16] <smile> I have one problem left :s
[18:16] <smile> numbers are not working
[18:16] <Kilos> haha is there a channel #windows
[18:16] <smile> yes. and we won't join. ;)
[18:17] <Kilos> oh my there really is one
[18:18] <Kilos> thats where all the irc bugs come from
[18:20] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[18:20] <Kilos> zeref, whats happening
[18:21] <Kilos> hi sflr 
[18:21] <zeref> nothing :-(, i'll deal with it later
[18:21] <sflr> good evening Kilos
[18:21] <sflr> and everybody
[18:21] <sflr> freezing tonight!
[18:22] <Kilos> zeref, join #videolan if anyone has an idea they should have
[18:22] <Kilos> yeah very cold
[18:22] <Kilos> zeref, theres over 200 guys there
[18:22] <Kilos> sflr, are you new here?
[18:22] <Kilos> where are you
[18:23] <sflr> yes, still virgin. from cape town.
[18:23] <Kilos> sflr, welcome to ubuntu-za
[18:23] <Kilos> tell us a bit about yourself
[18:23] <sflr> thanks guys!
[18:24] <sflr> i moved from windows to ubuntu few months ago.
[18:24] <sflr> would like to contribute to the project :)
[18:24] <sflr> 20+ years in IT, dev
[18:24] <sflr> Steven is my real name
[18:25] <Kilos> thats great, it is nice to have new guys join
[18:25] <Kilos> hi steven im miles
[18:25] <sflr> anybody following the myqsl/maria db sec flow? CVE-2012-2122
[18:26] <sflr> A Tragically Comedic Security Flaw in MySQL https://community.rapid7.com/community/metasploit/blog/2012/06/11/cve-2012-2122-a-tragically-comedic-security-flaw-in-mysql
[18:26] <Kilos> inetpro, yoohoo
[18:26] <sflr> Nice to meet you Miles. I'm a security guy too.
[18:26] <zeref> Kilos: for a sec i read, hi steven i'm les...
[18:27] <sflr> hi zeref
[18:27] <Kilos> hehe
[18:27] <sflr> I spent a day on launchpad, but its too overwhelming. On what things do you guys work on?
[18:27] <Kilos> yeah im lazy with caps and all the other things
[18:28] <zeref> hi sflr  :D
[18:28] <Kilos> sflr, this is mainly a help channel for guys with probs
[18:28] <Kilos> got some big brains here
[18:28] <sflr> thats cool :) majority always users.
[18:29] <Kilos> but this is also our ubuntu family channel
[18:29] <Kilos> community channel
[18:29] <sflr> took 2 weeks to set up my ubuntu 12.04. mostly nvidia problems and multiple monitors
[18:29] <sflr> that is great! :) Nice to be part of it
[18:30] <Kilos> there are many ubuntu guys in CT and stellies
[18:30] <sflr> that's great. I saw most events are in GP
[18:30] <smile> bye, Kilos 
[18:30] <smile> and others
[18:30] <smile> good night & dream good :)
[18:30] <Kilos> cheers smile sleep tight
[18:30] <Kilos> ty you too
[18:31] <sflr> cheers
[18:31] <Kilos> na sflr the guys down there rock
[18:31] <smile> Kilos: thanks :)
[18:31] <sflr> haha. hope to catch some here too
[18:32] <sflr> are you in IT Kilos?
[18:32] <Kilos> be here on the 18th at 1930 for our monthly meeting
[18:32] <Kilos> lol no sflr im an ex mechanic / farmer
[18:33] <sflr> the meeting on irc this chanel?
[18:33] <Kilos> i came here for help when winsucks drove me mad for help to get 8.10 going and its become home to me
[18:33] <sflr> awesome! :)
[18:33] <Kilos> yes we meet here monthly
[18:34] <Kilos> here are some links to our sites etc
[18:34] <Kilos> Maaz, loco
[18:34] <Maaz> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za
[18:34] <sflr> ok, i'll  be here. monday night
[18:34] <Kilos> not just monday night man
[18:34] <Kilos> often
[18:34] <sflr> thanks. will look around
[18:34] <Kilos> Maaz, ubuntu-za sites
[18:34] <Maaz> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam  https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntuza/  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za   http://ubuntu-za.org 
[18:35] <sflr> i meant i will  be here for the 'meeting' :)
[18:35] <Kilos> lol
[18:35] <sflr> thank for the links!
[18:35] <Kilos> yw
[18:36] <Kilos> our bot makes coffee too
[18:36] <sflr> Miles coffee
[18:36] <sflr> ?
[18:36] <sflr> lol
[18:36] <nuvolari> lol
[18:36] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:36]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[18:36] <nuvolari> Maaz: coffee on
[18:36] <Maaz> nuvolari: There's already a pot on. If you ask nicely, maybe you can have a cup
[18:36] <nuvolari> Maaz: coffee please
[18:36] <Maaz> nuvolari: Done
[18:36] <sflr> haha. classic.
[18:37] <nuvolari> ok, now I really crave for coffee
[18:37] <Kilos> Maaz, rusks please
[18:37] <Maaz> behind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos
[18:37] <Kilos> clever bot we got
[18:37] <Kilos> daarsy nuvolari nog n nuwe man
[18:38] <nuvolari> I don't have a bot, so I need to go put on my own coffee
[18:38] <nuvolari> waar oom Kilos?
[18:38] <nuvolari> sflr?
[18:38] <Kilos> sflr, say hi to nuvolari in durbs
[18:38] <sflr> lol nuvolari
[18:38] <nuvolari> hi sflr, welcome :)
[18:38] <sflr> howzit nuvolari!
[18:39] <sflr> did the rugby finish?
[18:39] <Kilos> ?
[18:39] <sflr> durbs. niiiice.
[18:39] <nuvolari> eh? what rugby?
[18:39]  * nuvolari is not a rugby fan
[18:39] <sflr> england-boks?
[18:39] <nuvolari> oh, dunno
[18:39] <nuvolari> Maaz: did the boks win?
[18:39] <Maaz> nuvolari: Sorry...
[18:40] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and nuvolari!
[18:40] <nuvolari> Maaz: are you sure?
[18:40] <Maaz> nuvolari: *blink*
[18:40] <sflr> sorry. juniors
[18:40] <nuvolari> thanks Maaz 
[18:40] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[18:40] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[18:41] <nuvolari> oh? maaz is becoming a polyglot eh?
[18:41] <sflr> this bot is clever. i like
[18:42] <inetpro> Kilos: pong
[18:42] <inetpro> I'm here
[18:42] <inetpro> now
[18:42] <inetpro> :-)
[18:42] <Kilos> hi inetpro say hi to sflr 
[18:42] <inetpro> what's up doc?
[18:42] <nuvolari> oom Kilos, wanneer laas het oom waatlemoen-stukke gehad?
[18:42] <inetpro> hi sflr, welcome at #ubuntu-za
[18:43]  * nuvolari is nou baie lus daarvoor
[18:43] <Kilos> colder than normal. hows things with you and family
[18:43] <sflr> howzit inetpro, thanks! :)
[18:43] <Kilos> in konfyt nuvolari 
[18:44] <Kilos> inetpro, organise your life so you dont miss the meet on monday hey
[18:45] <Kilos> sflr, have you joined our mailing list?
[18:45] <Kilos> ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com
[18:45] <sflr> not yet. i do it now. tx
[18:46] <Kilos> charlvn, why so quiet?
[18:47] <nuvolari> sjoe, sal 'n tannie gister aand op my afgaan oor die mailing list vir die foto klub
[18:47] <nuvolari> just be cause she never learned what email filters are used for :P
[18:47] <Kilos> lmga hoekom?
[18:47] <Kilos> i dunno either
[18:48] <nuvolari> Kilos: well, you don't complain about anything going on on the mailing list
[18:48] <inetpro> Kilos: have you thought about Mondays Agenda yet?
[18:49] <Kilos> thats where i learn without having to bug you guys
[18:49] <inetpro> Kilos: what you gonna be talking about?
[18:49] <Kilos> inetpro, ME?
[18:49] <sflr> ok, i got on the mail list
[18:49] <inetpro> Kilos: yep you
[18:49] <sflr> Kilos, are you running the meeting? :) Snacks please
[18:50] <Kilos> nuvolari, and maiatoday are doing it if kbmonkey is sick
[18:50] <inetpro> Kilos: ek soek 'n onderwerp van jou!
[18:50] <inetpro> nuvolari: and you to
[18:50] <Kilos> oh ill come up with something by then im sure
[18:50] <inetpro> and sflr you're also welcome to add an item to the agenda
[18:52]  * inetpro is just not sure where our Agenda is listed this time around
[18:52] <Kilos> inetpro, in one of these i think
[18:52] <Kilos> Maaz, ubuntu-za sites
[18:52] <Maaz> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam  https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntuza/  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za   http://ubuntu-za.org 
[18:52] <Kilos> or 
[18:53] <Kilos> Maaz, loco
[18:53] <Maaz> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za
[18:53] <inetpro> superfly: and I guess you must be preoccupied with supersmallfly but you may still have something to talk about on the agenda as well?
[18:54] <superfly> inetpro: not really (to both of those)
[18:54] <Kilos> supergrub
[18:54] <Kilos> or supermaggot
[18:54] <inetpro> :-)
[18:55] <inetpro> we can't keep going to these meetings without having prepared somethig!?
[18:55] <Kilos> sflr, we will have coffee and rusks
[18:55] <Kilos> yeah maybe we need to push maiatoday a bit
[18:56] <magespawn> Evening all
[18:56] <Kilos> yo magespawn you still alive?
[18:56]  * superfly is not sure what agenda items he should have
[18:56] <magespawn> Somewhat. Is the meeting tonight?
[18:56] <Kilos> monday night magespawn 
[18:56] <Kilos> 1930hrs
[18:57] <inetpro> magespawn: we still have enough time to think about items
[18:57] <inetpro> magespawn: meeting is on Monday
[18:57] <magespawn> Thats good thought I had missed it.
[18:57] <inetpro> Mon, 18 June @ 19:30 
[18:57] <inetpro> There are currently no meetings for ubuntu-za :( 
[18:57] <inetpro> according to http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za/meetings
[18:58] <Kilos> oh my
[18:58] <Kilos> update it then inetpro 
[18:58]  * inetpro trying to figure how to do just that
[18:59] <sflr> hi megaspawn
[18:59] <Kilos> add that to the agenda. announce next meet date as well
[18:59] <inetpro> guess I should login
[18:59] <Kilos> sflr, what irc client are you using?
[18:59] <sflr> xchat
[19:00] <Kilos> yay
[19:00] <sflr> is that good?
[19:00] <Kilos> use tab nick complete
[19:00] <Kilos> yeah i use it too
[19:00] <Kilos> the kubuntu guys use quassel
[19:01] <sflr> thanks. yes, i use the tab . i'm on irc since 1990s
[19:01] <Kilos> old man river
[19:01] <sflr> but i dont know the nickserv is not responding. was trying to register my nick
[19:02] <sflr> irc is a big beast, i was hanging out on other networks
[19:02] <Kilos> ah
[19:02] <Kilos> i battled to get registered in the beginning
[19:02] <Kilos> inetpro, helped me
[19:03] <Kilos> you can do it from here if he can help
[19:03] <sflr> i'm happy with xchat. i use some other irc client on my phone. 
[19:03] <inetpro> Kilos, maiatoday: who will chair the meeting on Monday?
[19:03] <sflr> thanks. i think the server is just lagging. whenever inetpro comes back :)
[19:04] <Kilos> maiatoday, /nuvolari
[19:04] <Kilos> or you inetpro 
[19:05] <inetpro> Kilos: haha
[19:05] <Kilos> lol
[19:05] <inetpro> ok, we have a place to put the Agenda at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/436/detail/
[19:06] <inetpro> feel free to suggest Items to add or just go theer and add yourself
[19:06] <inetpro> there*
[19:08] <inetpro> drussell: wb
[19:08] <inetpro> sflr: why you waiting for me?
[19:08] <drussell> inetpro: hey! 
[19:08]  * drussell waves to inetpro from tokyo
[19:08] <Kilos> hi drussell 
[19:08] <inetpro> drussell: wow! What you up to today?
[19:09] <drussell> Kilos: heya
[19:09] <drussell> inetpro: visiting customers
[19:09] <inetpro> cool
[19:10] <Kilos> wow inetpro thats a tiny login button
[19:10] <sflr> inetpro, Kilos was saying that you might be able to help me with registering my nick. I tried with nickserv,but not responding
[19:10] <inetpro> sflr: ahh
[19:11] <inetpro> sflr: go to http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[19:14] <sflr> thanks! i follow the guide
[19:15] <inetpro> can't go wrong if you follow that guide :-)
[19:16] <inetpro> Kilos: remnd me tomorrow to kick and scream at everyone to help setup a decent Agenda for Monday
[19:16] <inetpro> remind*
[19:16] <Kilos> ok will do if i remember to
[19:16] <Kilos> hehe
[19:17] <inetpro> when was our last meeting?
[19:17] <Kilos> last month
[19:17] <Kilos> hehe
[19:17] <Kilos> 28th i think
[19:18] <inetpro> Kilos: 28 May?
[19:18] <nuvolari> i'm off
[19:18] <nuvolari> night eveyryone
[19:18] <Kilos> toods nuvolari 
[19:18] <inetpro> there was no Agenda?
[19:18] <nuvolari> *everyone
[19:18] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:18] <inetpro> nuvolari: good night
[19:18] <nuvolari> you too thanks oom Kilos 
[19:18] <nuvolari> night inetpro 
[19:18] <Kilos> oh my blame the monkey
[19:19] <Kilos> no nuvolari and maiatoday and monkey
[19:19] <inetpro> hmm... no coconut for the monkey!
[19:19] <Kilos> was a family affair
[19:19] <inetpro> :-)
[19:20] <Kilos> aw i cant see whats on the agenda already
[19:21] <Kilos> is nothing there yet inetpro ??
[19:22] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm still trying to setup a few simple points for the framework on my local side before I post
[19:22] <inetpro> standing points
[19:23] <Kilos> ah
[19:23] <inetpro> like Review previous minutes
[19:23] <inetpro> where do we get those?
[19:23] <Kilos> on one of those sites
[19:23] <inetpro> found it at: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-05-21-17-44-22.txt
[19:25] <inetpro> any outstanding global jam feedback that anyone is aware of?
[19:26] <Kilos> add it and ask monday
[19:26] <Kilos> min peeps here
[19:27] <Kilos> haha
[19:28] <Kilos> you too fast inetpro 
[19:28] <Kilos> sflr, you need to get a launchpad account too
[19:28] <inetpro> eh
[19:28] <Kilos> or id i think
[19:29] <sflr> i have an lp account. is that for the meeting?
[19:29] <Kilos> thats to be able to add items to agendas etc
[19:29] <sflr> cool. i am just reading now the last meeting's minutes.
[19:29] <inetpro> Kilos: yikes! Guess I shall remove me item
[19:30] <Kilos> meeting is just as you are here now
[19:30] <Kilos> nope inetpro 
[19:30] <inetpro> gone
[19:30] <Kilos> mine is for visitors
[19:30] <sflr> inetpro> got the nick registered thanks
[19:30] <Kilos> sigh
[19:30] <inetpro> sflr: nice
[19:30] <sflr> I don't think I can add anything to the Agenda to be honest. I'm still too rooky. haha
[19:31] <inetpro> sflr: just try it
[19:31] <Kilos> sflr, do you use languages
[19:31] <Kilos> programming that is
[19:31] <Kilos> like python
[19:31] <sflr> ok, i try it
[19:31] <sflr> yes, i do. c, java, php, python, etc.
[19:31] <sflr> c# on windows
[19:32] <Kilos> great
[19:34] <sflr> I can login to the loco portal 
[19:34] <Kilos> good
[19:34] <sflr> and add items, etc
[19:35] <Kilos> we got a python expert here when work and time allows
[19:35] <Kilos> even superdoom doesnt kill him
[19:36] <Kilos> oh hi fly didnt see you lurking there
[19:36] <sflr> haha lol
[19:36] <sflr> i'm still working. 24/7 :)
[19:37] <Kilos> geez when do you sleep
[19:37] <Kilos> inetpro, are you winning
[19:38] <sflr> i do sleep! i got up 9am this morning, worked til 3am
[19:38] <inetpro> Kilos: yep, that Agenda has grown a bit already
[19:38] <Kilos> well done
[19:38] <inetpro> sflr: working in reverse?
[19:38] <sflr> he is busy. I see the Agenda is taking shape ;)
[19:38] <inetpro> :-)
[19:38] <Kilos> how do i see it without first going add agenda?
[19:39] <sflr> inetpro, something like that. it is too cold and dark to wake up before the sun! lol
[19:39] <inetpro> just go to http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/436/detail/
[19:39] <inetpro> and refresh that pagina
[19:41] <Kilos> ah
[19:41] <Kilos> ty
[19:43] <sflr> Russia-Poland 1-0 half time #Euro2012
[19:43] <sflr> seems like going to be a busy meeting :)
[19:43] <Kilos> lol you not very geeky sflr 
[19:44] <sflr> what do u mean? lol
[19:44] <Kilos> first time i spoke about sport here i was told geeks dont do sport
[19:44] <sflr> haha. thanks to supersport live ;)
[19:44] <Kilos> hehe
[19:44] <sflr> need to use my other screen for something...
[19:45] <Kilos> you arent using mobile broadband hey?
[19:45] <sflr> telkom adsl
[19:45] <sflr> via afrihost
[19:45] <inetpro> sflr: I guess I'll leave it at that
[19:46] <inetpro> anybody is welcome to add more
[19:46] <Kilos> yeah still time to add more as things come up
[19:48] <sflr> I saw there was some talk about CD distribution in last meeting. Whats the status of that?
[19:49] <Kilos> that will come from maiatoday sflr  she did all the hard work
[19:49] <Kilos> inetpro, sent an early warning mail to lists
[19:50] <inetpro> Kilos: cool, thanks
[19:50] <Kilos> will send another on monday if you remind me
[19:50] <Kilos> hehe
[19:51] <inetpro> hah
[19:51] <Kilos> us old fogies
[19:52] <sflr> ok, thanks
[19:52] <sflr> i'm thinking now to hire a new grad as intern, make him into an ubuntu evangelist or something
[19:53] <Kilos> haha
[19:54] <zeref> lol
[19:54] <sflr> they always very enthusiast. get them while still young :)
[19:55] <Kilos> sflr, are you using 12.04?
[19:55] <sflr> yes. 12.04
[19:55] <Kilos> unity?
[19:55] <Kilos> or gnome
[19:55] <sflr> yes. unity
[19:55] <Kilos> thats good to know
[19:56] <Kilos> lots of peeps dont like unity
[19:56] <sflr> 3d when single screen. 2d when multiple screens.
[19:56] <Kilos> great
[19:56] <sflr> I like unity to be honest
[19:57] <Kilos> zeref, you using unity too?
[19:57] <zeref> nooit
[19:57] <zeref> gnome-shell
[19:57] <Kilos> lots of the gnome guys dont want to change
[19:57] <zeref> :D
[19:57] <Kilos> hehe
[19:58] <Kilos> hi AndChat|68096 
[19:58] <Kilos> you need help with ubuntu/linux
[19:59] <Kilos> ?
[20:01] <sflr> lol zeref. what irc client do you use?
[20:01] <sflr> hi AndChat|68096
[20:02] <zeref> sflr: irssi
[20:03] <AndChat|68096> Hey guys its me magespawn
[20:03] <Kilos> ha ha ha how you became AndChat|68096 
[20:03] <sflr> irssi: the client of the future! =)
[20:03] <AndChat|68096> Got disconnected and auto reconnect
[20:04] <Kilos> hard work that irssi
[20:04] <zeref> indeed sflr 
[20:04] <Kilos> xchat rocks
[20:05] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[20:05] <inetpro> sflr: irssi is cool indeed
[20:05] <Kilos> says the quassel man
[20:06] <magespawn> ty Kilos
[20:06] <Kilos> magespawn, stay at the shop monday
[20:06] <Kilos> after work that is
[20:07] <inetpro> Kilos: I've used irrsi long ago but used a nice GUI client ever since we had a stable Kubuntu
[20:07] <sflr> cool, i will check irssi out
[20:07] <Kilos> lol
[20:07] <Kilos> ya ya
[20:07] <inetpro> I like resizing text when possible
[20:08] <Kilos> i have to. cant see the tiny default text
[20:08] <Kilos> i resize everything
[20:08] <sflr> super size?
[20:08] <inetpro> and when resizing me window the text must flow nicely inside it's perimeters
[20:09] <Kilos> inetpro, have you tried xchat? how does it compare to quassel
[20:10]  * inetpro prefers the super features as well as the look and feel of quassel
[20:10] <Kilos> ya man but is it a similar kinda thing
[20:10] <inetpro> while I still long for the days of Konversation
[20:11] <inetpro> xchat is not bad
[20:11] <inetpro> with Linux there are many choices
[20:12] <sflr> is ubuntu-za on twitter?
[20:12] <inetpro> and there's nothing wrong if you prefer something else
[20:12] <Kilos> one day i will try quassel
[20:12] <Kilos> needs to many K files
[20:12] <inetpro> sflr: hmm... 
[20:12] <sflr> yes, xchat is good for now. if i get frustrated with it, I will start looking at alternatives
[20:13] <Kilos> it customises nicely
[20:13] <sflr> I found you inetpro on twitter, because i searched for ubuntu-za :)
[20:13] <inetpro> sflr: I'm not aware of a dedicated twitter account for ubuntu-za
[20:13] <inetpro> eh
[20:13] <Kilos> gtwitter
[20:14] <inetpro> sflr: spying on me?
[20:14] <sflr> ok
[20:14] <Kilos> lol
[20:14] <inetpro> :-)
[20:14] <sflr> haha. no. public domain :P
[20:14] <inetpro> sflr: you're welcome 
[20:15] <sflr> i saw there is a facebook group, we should get a twitter too? 
[20:15] <Kilos> night guys. hot water bottle time
[20:15] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:16] <Kilos> see you's tomorrow
[20:16] <inetpro> sflr: if you can get someone to sponsor regular bandwidth for Kilos we could make him the chief of that channel
[20:16] <inetpro> the rest of us have a day job
[20:17] <sflr> yes, i see. that's true.
[20:17] <sflr> what do you mean by regular bandwith? 
[20:18] <inetpro> sflr: he's on early retirement
[20:18] <inetpro> due to an injury many years ago
[20:18] <inetpro> no income
[20:19] <sflr> I see, that's hard.
[20:19] <inetpro> but he's still a bright as ever
[20:19] <sflr> I speak to him then when he comes online again.
[20:19] <inetpro> always friendly and always helful
[20:19] <inetpro> helpful
[20:19] <inetpro> despite lots of setbacks
[20:20] <sflr> takes strong character to stand up and keep walking over and over again
[20:20] <inetpro> for sure
[20:21] <charlvn> hi al
[20:21] <charlvn> hi inetpro 
[20:21] <inetpro> charlvn: hi there
[20:21] <charlvn> look at what i found in the shop today: http://i.imgur.com/JXIsh.jpg
[20:21] <charlvn> beer in a champagne bottle
[20:22] <inetpro> charlvn: what?!
[20:22] <sflr> hi charlvn
[20:22] <sflr> big ass beer bottle!
[20:22] <charlvn> hi sflr 
[20:22] <inetpro> that sure looks like champagne to me
[20:22] <inetpro> charlvn: can you drink that stuff?
[20:23] <charlvn> inetpro: it's good beer but way too much for me to drink on my own
[20:23] <charlvn> duvel is quite strong (high alcohol percentage)
[20:23] <inetpro> :-)
[20:23] <charlvn> but i have to admit, when i saw that bottle i felt like this: http://i.imgur.com/hUCiW.png
[20:23] <inetpro> arrange a party
[20:23] <charlvn> yeah
[20:24] <charlvn> unrelated, my mom bought these yesterday: http://i.imgur.com/NHUOY.jpg http://i.imgur.com/aSMlh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/CpTv0.jpg
[20:24] <inetpro> sflr: what's you twitter handle?
[20:24] <inetpro> charlvn: nice?
[20:25] <inetpro> I needed those for my daughter today
[20:25] <sflr> inetpro> https://twitter.com/#!/sfler
[20:25] <inetpro> sflr: tks
[20:26] <sflr> charlvn, those are adult toys :)
[20:27] <charlvn> sflr: yeah feels like it
[20:27] <inetpro> charlvn: http://thehometeacher.blogspot.com/2012/02/dont-be-angry-bird-lessons-on-anger.html
[20:28] <charlvn> inetpro: that's an awesome post wow
[20:28] <sflr> thanks for the follow inetpro :)
[20:29] <inetpro> it sure works wonders
[20:31] <sflr> I used the small angry bird toys to throw around. I found slippers to be old fashioned :)
[20:32] <charlvn> this video in that post reminds me of the puppet shows my grandmother put on for me when i was a kid with stuffed toys
[20:32] <charlvn> it was much funnier than this though
[20:35] <inetpro> Maaz: seen tumbleweed
[20:35] <Maaz> inetpro: tumbleweed was last seen 7 days, 23 hours, 12 minutes and 26 seconds ago in #ibid on atrum [2012-06-04 14:23:07 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2012-06-02 17:55:07 PDT
[20:35] <inetpro> hmm... 
[20:35]  * inetpro wonders where he is runnin around
[20:37] <marcog_> inetpro: he's in europe
[20:37] <inetpro> marcog: ahh
[20:37] <inetpro> BTW, wb marcog
[20:38] <inetpro> where you been and what's tumbleweed up to in Europe?
[20:39] <marcog> i've been lurking
[20:40] <marcog> tumbleweed's taking holiday time
[20:40] <sflr> hi marcog
[20:40] <charlvn> hi marcog 
[20:41] <charlvn> good time for a holiday in europe, it's the middle of the summer atm, beautiful weather
[20:41] <charlvn> do you know where in europe he's hiding out?
[20:42] <marcog> i think he's out at sea around croatia iirc
[20:42] <inetpro> marcog: nice for tumbleweed, he sure deserves it
[20:43] <marcog> it's great weather here too :P
[20:43] <charlvn> ah nice, croatia
[20:43] <charlvn> never been there
[20:43] <inetpro> marcog: but you lurking? :-)
[20:43] <marcog> inetpro: i'm living in California
[20:44] <inetpro> marcog: you sleeping at FB headquarters?
[20:44] <marcog> inetpro: working for a mobile gaming startup now
[20:44] <inetpro> hmm... on Opera?
[20:44] <sflr> croatia is beautiful and affordable for holiday. the beach is the most popular in the last few years
[20:44] <sflr> Angry Birds =)
[20:45] <inetpro> marcog: sounds interesting
[20:46] <marcog> inetpro: http://loki-studios.com/vision.html
[20:46] <marcog> we just started working on a new game
[20:47] <magespawn> Hey guys
[20:48] <inetpro> magespawn: wb
[20:48] <inetpro> marcog: how big/small is your team of developers?
[20:48] <magespawn>  ty inetpro
[20:51] <marcog> inetpro: 5 devs, 1 ceo, 1 art (we ned more!), 1 user testing person
[20:51] <inetpro> cool
[20:51] <sflr> thats awesome marcog, just checked out the site. funding looks also good
[20:52] <marcog> of the devs, 2 backend (me being one), 2 ios and 1 project manager
[20:53] <magespawn> What is the website?
[20:53] <inetpro> magespawn: 12/06 22:46:19 <marcog> inetpro: http://loki-studios.com/vision.html
[20:54] <magespawn> Ty.
[20:54] <inetpro> marcog: what's your role in the team?
[20:55] <marcog> inetpro: primarily infrastructure, but as we're a small team the role's quite dynamic
[20:55] <inetpro> nice
[20:59] <magespawn> Looks pretty cool.
[21:05] <inetpro> hmm... time running away with us again
[21:05]  * inetpro needs some sleep
[21:05] <inetpro> marcog: please hold the fort
[21:05] <inetpro> and sflr do stick around here
[21:05] <sflr> I will :) chat tomorrow. I'm also taking a break now..zzz...
[21:06] <zeref> 0i 0i, peeps going to bed 0.o
[21:08] <charlvn> ciao all
[21:09] <magespawn> Night all