[07:01] <Guest17166> hello
[07:08] <Guest17166>  hello?
[07:36] <raintheory> Anyone here familiar with wineasio?
[07:43] <raintheory> ello?
[13:45] <eein_> morning
[13:46] <eein_> how much configuration is required for jack to work on studio?
[14:48] <mighty_aboba> Hi
[14:49] <mighty_aboba> I made scripts to launch jackd with the different configurations
[14:49] <mighty_aboba> And bint it to hotkeys
[14:49] <mighty_aboba> And it is beautiful
[14:49] <mighty_aboba> :)
[14:52] <mighty_aboba> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1037336/
[15:30] <ubuntu-studio> hi guys
[15:30] <ubuntu-studio> installed xfce 4.10
[15:31] <ubuntu-studio> someone?
[15:31] <ubuntu-studio> this stable ?
[15:32] <holstein> xfce4-10: from the repos?
[15:33] <xfce4-10> not yet installed
[15:33] <xfce4-10> holstein: I'm waiting for a feed back on who installed it.
[15:34] <holstein> xfce4-10: you can ask in #xubuntu.. the word i have is use whats in the repos, or you are on your own
[15:34] <holstein> there is a PPA for the latest, but i dont use it
[15:34] <holstein> if there is something you desparately need, go for it, otherwise.. i say stick with the default
[15:35] <xfce4-10> holstein: ok you this official repo?
[15:36] <xfce4-10> I will use it as a curiosity, the short-xfce =)
[15:36] <holstein> xfce4-10: i just searched for it once.. *all* ppas' can only be so official
[15:37] <xfce4-10> ok sir, thanks for listening.
[15:38] <holstein> xfce4-10: anytime... for GUI question like that, feel free to get the finaly answer from the good folks in #xubuntu :)
[15:40] <xfce4-10> let's see if I relive a ghost there to answer me. =)
[15:54] <Guest40838> hey guys daft simple question but im trying to restore the social notifcation icon thats located near the clock on the top right, any hints on how to do this please?
[15:55] <holstein> Wulfyuk: in XFCE?
[15:55] <holstein> i would load up a live CD, and see what is in the panel
[15:55] <Wulfyuk> holstein, i think so if thats the default desktop for us 12.04
[15:55] <holstein> i would make a new user, or login in the guest account and see what is in the panel
[15:55] <Wulfyuk> good idea lets see if that works :)
[15:56] <holstein> i would literally add everything to a "test" panel and see what it what
[15:56] <Wulfyuk> never allow kids near your when your trying to work
[15:56] <holstein> i remember doing that in gnome2
[15:56] <holstein> Wulfyuk: you can also ask in #xubuntu if you dont get the answer you are looking for here
[15:56] <holstein> i gotta run.. but we'll get you sorted out Wulfyuk :)
[15:56] <Wulfyuk> thanks holstein  much appreciated
[15:56] <holstein> Wulfyuk: i think its going to have "notification" in the title
[15:56] <Wulfyuk> certainly my best experiance with a linux support channel so far :D
[15:57] <Wulfyuk> ussualy its rtfm
[15:57] <holstein> i dont have XFCE running in front of me at the moment or id just check for you :)
[15:57] <Wulfyuk> no worrys im just getting used to this im really enjoying it over the mainstream os interfaces
[15:57] <Wulfyuk> no nasty gnome 3 etc
[15:58] <Wulfyuk> and its defiantly got everything i need to carry out most tasks i do :)
[16:00] <Wulfyuk> thanks it was the indicator plugin :) sorted thank you :)
[16:01] <GhstWlf> How can I get mu soundblaster audigy (CA0106) to work with jack?
[16:24] <eein_> ugh i don't know how to get my sound correct with a m-audio 1010lt card
[16:25] <eein_> i can hear sound and the inputs are right but i cant seem to control it as i would assume i could
[16:28] <vlt> eein_: Tried alsamixer?
[16:29] <eein_> actually im using mudita24
[16:29] <eein_> vlt: ^ supposedly it is better for m-audio cards
[16:30] <eein_> http://pastebin.com/tcZ9zt8t   my asoundrc file
[16:36] <eein_> currently my biggest issue is i'm not sure how to address channels
[16:36] <eein_> card 0: M1010LT [M Audio Delta 1010LT], device 0: ICE1712 multi [ICE1712 multi]
[16:36] <eein_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[16:36] <eein_>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[16:37] <eein_> does that mean its hw:0,0
[16:39] <eein_> im trying to setup darkice to stream, i put in device=hw:0,0 in my config but when calling that config it just returns to prompt DarkIce: DarkIceConfig.cpp:137: no current section [0]
[16:39] <vlt> eein_: hmmm, should be, yes.
[16:39] <eein_> my question is if i have my input on 3/4 does hw:0,0 just mean look for anything on all channels?
[17:51] <holstein> eein_: those labels can change or jump from reboots
[17:51] <holstein> eein_: you should try and catch someone like pipemanmusic in #opensourcemusicians who has that hardware
[17:52] <eein_> holstein: its my only card, i disabled the onboard
[17:53] <holstein> eein_: should "just work" then.. its been well supporteed AFAIK
[17:54] <eein_> it does work...kinda, i'm having difficulty in programs selecting which input is "the input"
[17:55] <ailo> I don't know darkice. What audio system do you use with it?
[17:55] <ailo> PA, jack, alsa..?
[17:55] <ailo> I have the 1010LT, as well as a Delta 66
[17:55] <eein_> i installed jack but couldnt figured it, right now i just have alsa, pulse was a disaster
[17:55] <ailo> Why was pulse a disaster?
[17:56] <eein_> i could hear line inputs even when things were muted and other oddities
[17:56] <ailo> Like inputs from your card?
[17:56] <eein_> my alsamixer was all muted could still hear distorted line 3/4
[17:56] <eein_> yeah
[17:56] <eein_> removed pulse and no more
[17:57] <eein_> ailo: what audio system are you using
[17:57] <ailo> I use PA and when I use jack apps, I start jack. I don't have any problems
[17:58] <holstein> i would use JACK or pavucontrol
[17:58] <holstein> pavucontrol is going to nned pulse, and you can try that from the live CD
[17:58] <holstein> need*
[17:58] <eein_> what are jack apps
[17:58] <holstein> if you dont need JACK, dont use it
[17:59] <eein_> holstein: i had tried pavucontrol as a first step to troubleshooting but couldnt get it to show why there was a bleed from 3/4
[18:00] <holstein> eein_: i would also think that could be hardware crosstalk
[18:00] <ailo> eein_: PA doesn't control the volume to the delta devices
[18:00] <eein_> right now alsa with the envy24 / mudita24 seems to be working, i just cant seem to do things like get banshee to stop using output 1/2
[18:00] <ailo> eein_: mudita24 or alsamixer can do that
[18:00] <eein_> holstein: well no issues in windows and no more bleed when blowing PA out
[18:01] <holstein> you cant compare the drivers though.. the windows ones and the alsa ones
[18:01] <holstein> its not fair, or accurate.. or relevant for that matter
[18:01] <ailo> eein_: PA only controls the "Main" volume, which is a software volume
[18:01] <ailo> PA uses alsa as it's base
[18:01] <holstein> yeah, the driver support will be the same
[18:01] <ailo> But, has a custom insterface
[18:02] <eein_> ailo: well i dont see how i assign banshee to use 5/6 as example using mudita24
[18:02] <holstein> eein_: i dont think you easily can
[18:02] <holstein> thats not what pulse or alsa is expecting
[18:02] <eein_> :-( as an example in windows i can click on audio control and set which is default
[18:03] <eein_> nothing similar?
[18:03] <ailo> eein_: If you use alsa, you can create a custom configuration for it.
[18:04] <ailo> something like .asoundrc in the home dir
[18:04] <ailo> Or, alsa.conf somewhere in /etc
[18:04] <eein_> ailo: http://pastebin.com/tcZ9zt8t
[18:04] <eein_> thats my asoundrc
[18:05] <eein_> but i dont see how that lets me select which output is defailt
[18:07] <eein_> so basically what i want is to have 1/2 out to a set of speakers and 5/6 out to my dj mixer
[18:07] <eein_> i want to switch which one is the output
[18:07] <holstein> yeah... not an easy way to do that in alsa
[18:07] <holstein> pavucontrol *might* offer some of that
[18:07] <holstein> JACK is the tool you'd probably want to seek out
[18:08] <holstein> you can have routing like that in a GUI
[18:08] <ailo> With PA you can set the card to be used as a multichannel card, but it's not very practical for that kind of thing, since there's only configs like 5.1 6.1, etc
[18:08] <holstein> yeah... its not like "use the 2nd 2 stereo outs for this application"
[18:08] <ailo> Surely it's possible to make custom PA configs as well
[18:08] <holstein> you would think.. its all open afterall
[18:09] <ailo> jack is the best option, if the applications support it
[18:09] <ailo> Not all do
[18:09] <ailo> But, jack + PA bridge would solve all those problems
[18:09] <ailo> It might be the best way
[18:09] <ailo> qjackctl can save preferred connections
[18:10] <ailo> in profiles
[18:10] <ailo> You can switch between them
[18:10] <ailo> eein_: I recommend using PA + jack. It's the easiest way by far. You can connect any which way you want
[18:11] <holstein> latency is not an issue either in this setup
[18:11] <eein_> ok well i have jack
[18:11] <ailo> You'll need PA too
[18:11] <ailo> If you want to connect between applications that don't have support for jack, and your audio device
[18:11] <eein_> but alsa is already working, i would think jack could work with alsa
[18:11] <ailo> jack uses alsa as it's driver, but not all applications support jack
[18:12] <ailo> But you can connect PA with jack, which solves that problem
[18:12] <ailo> With PA+jack you get access to all possible applications and connectability
[18:12] <ailo> jack applications can connect to any output separately
[18:13] <ailo> vlc has jack support, as has some other media players
[18:13] <eein_> well i dont see how i use jack
[18:14] <eein_> i assume i make a patch bay, using the qjackctrl frontend
[18:14] <ailo> Yeah
[18:14] <ailo> You'll need pulseaudio-module-jack to make PA connectable to jack
[18:14] <ailo> you need jackd2, and qjackctl needs to be set with dbus support
[18:14] <ailo> I assume you are on 12.04?
[18:15] <eein_> no running mint right now, i grabbed the 12.04 studio iso but cant install just yet
[18:15] <ailo> When you start jack, PA will show up in jack connections
[18:16] <ailo> Applications that support jack, you can set to use jack in their respective preferences. VLC needs an addon to use jack, as does some other applications (installable from the repo)
[18:17] <ailo> Jack will command the card, while PA will just be like any other jack program
[18:18] <eein_> i still dont see how i can change which out is out on jack
[18:19] <ailo> eein_: When you start jack, look in "Connect"
[18:19] <ailo> All inputs and outputs appear there separately
[18:19] <ailo> You make connections manually, or create custom profiles in "Patchbay"
[18:20] <ailo> You won't see any outputs or inputs until jack is started
[18:20] <ailo> eein_: With jack you get a lot more than a "default" output
[18:22] <ailo> eein_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro/1204#The_Pulse_Audio_to_Jack_Bridge_-_using_both_at_once
[18:23] <ailo> This is on Ubuntu 12.04, so if your Mint is older, it may not work like this (I never bothered using the bridge before 12.04)