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ScottKExcellent.02:53
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tsdgeosyou guys aware that installing libkcddb4 in quantal wants to remove kubuntu-desktop ?07:51
Riddelltsdgeos: nope, I'll investigate that08:03
Riddelldebfx: mind and update http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas with uploads to the PPA08:40
Riddelldebfx: http://felix.fobos.de/kubuntu/4.8.90.htm disappeared?08:42
debfxRiddell: which ones are missing?08:43
debfxI hope not, seems to work for me08:43
Riddelldebfx: from http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas nothing by pykde or smoke*08:43
Riddellooh http://felix.fobos.de/kubuntu/4.8.90.htm fixed itself08:43
debfxthey are at the top of the package list08:44
Riddelldebfx: aye but they don't say you're working on them08:44
debfxwell I'm not :)08:45
debfxI've only uploaded the packages without reviewing them08:46
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1012550] qtsql: no drivers loaded (incomplete library paths?) @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1012550 (by Jonas T.)09:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1012550 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "qtsql: no drivers loaded (incomplete library paths?)" [Undecided,New]09:12
Riddellkubotu: pardeon?09:13
debfxdoes anyone have objections to registering a kubuntu-ninjas-bot account so I can generate the build status report on my server?09:13
debfxright now I have to copy the html page manually which is a pita09:14
Riddelldebfx: registering with what?09:17
debfxRiddell: registering an account on launchpad09:17
Riddelldebfx: yeah go ahead09:18
debfxRiddell: ok done, could you add ~kubuntu-ninjas-bot to the ninjas team?09:22
Riddellok09:24
RiddellKubuntu Ninjas Bot (kubuntu-ninjas-bot) has been added as a member of this team.09:24
BluesKajHi all10:54
Riddellafiestas: ping?12:00
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ScottK4.9 beta 2 is released.13:55
ScottKI'm going to reject the remaining 4.8.80 packages in New since they probably lack proper licensing and are about to be replaced.13:56
debfxkdenetwork, kdepim, kdepim-runtime, kdepimlibs and rocs still need fixing14:08
apacheloggerhow do I make lunchpad not try to multiarch stuff? Oo14:11
debfxwhat has lp to do with multiarch?14:12
apacheloggerdunno14:12
apacheloggersomething made liblastfm install to multiarch path14:13
apacheloggerand I cannot replicate that on my system14:13
apacheloggeroho14:17
apacheloggerdid something change in cmake/dh on quantal that would make that happen?14:17
debfxdo we want to build python bindings for PolkitQt in pykde4?14:20
debfxmaybe in cmake14:20
jtechidnaapachelogger: not by default: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/amd64/libqapt1/filelist14:20
apacheloggerjtechidna: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/107430921/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-i386.liblastfm_1.0.0-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz14:20
apacheloggermaybe because samplerate is multiarch14:20
apacheloggerbut that seems to be multiarch on precise too14:21
apacheloggeralso it would be weird if a linked lib influenced multiarchness14:21
apachelogger+Alex Neundorf (34):14:22
apachelogger+      GNUInstallDirs: add support for Debian multiarch14:22
apachelogger+  # For Debian with multiarch, use 'lib/${CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE}' if14:23
apachelogger+  # CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE is set (which contains e.g. "i386-linux-gnu"14:23
apachelogger+  # See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch14:23
apacheloggerOo14:23
jtechidnabut that stuff shouldn't be in effect unless the package is marked as multiarch in debian/control14:23
apachelogger*shrug*14:24
debfxapachelogger: when has that commit landed?14:24
apacheloggerages ago14:24
* apachelogger ponders on CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE14:24
apachelogger>>> grep -r CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE .14:26
apachelogger./obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/CMakeFiles/CMakeCCompiler.cmake:  SET(CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE "x86_64-linux-gnu")14:26
apacheloggerthat is without multiarch stuff in control14:26
* apachelogger feels violated14:26
yofel_doesn't dh9 use multiarch by default?14:27
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apacheloggerdoesn't matter, the package was at compat 714:27
yofelok, then this shouldn't happen14:28
debfxyofel: I think only autotools stuff14:28
* apachelogger cannot see debhelper setting CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE on precise14:28
apacheloggeryet it is there14:28
yofelthat's cmake internal14:28
yofelsee cmake manpage14:29
apacheloggerfufu I say14:29
* apachelogger installs cmake .814:29
apacheloggeryeah14:30
apacheloggerrekonq downloading to Documents14:30
apacheloggermy hero14:30
apachelogger-.-14:30
yofelapachelogger: btw. what does it break?14:31
apacheloggereverything except for qapt14:32
apacheloggerwhich is actually even more confusing14:32
apachelogger-- Installing: /tmp/liblastfm-1.0.0/debian/tmp/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblastfm.so.1.0.014:32
apacheloggercmake 2.8.8 broke behavior big time14:32
* yofel doesn't see why it would though14:32
yofelunless you use RPATH or stuff like that14:33
yofel(or cmake config files :( )14:33
debfxGNUInstallDirs sets CMAKE_INSTALL_LIBDIR14:33
apacheloggeryofel: if CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE is always set and cmake chooses to multiarch on debian iff CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE is set then that bricks .install for packages not opting for multiarch14:33
debfxbut I guess most projects don't use GNUInstallDirs14:33
apacheloggerdebfx: any non-kde thingy does14:33
apacheloggeroho14:34
apacheloggerjtechidna: qapt is built --with kde14:34
jtechidnayup14:34
debfxapachelogger: qapt obviously not14:34
apacheloggerforwhatever reason14:35
apacheloggerI am reasonable certain that causes path overrides in favor of KDE14:35
jtechidnait ships kde utils even though the lib itself is Qt-only14:35
apacheloggerkk14:35
jtechidnaso I used --with kde14:35
* apachelogger rebuilds without kde too see if that breaks it14:35
apacheloggeractually14:37
ScottKjtechidna: You've got mail.  News is not good.14:38
jtechidnak, thanks14:38
apacheloggertalking about not so good news ... 20 people refuse to vote :P14:39
yofelthat's a better quote than our last government election had here...14:40
apachelogger/tmp/qapt-1.3.80/debian/tmp/usr/lib/libqapt.so.1.3.8014:41
apacheloggerthis does not compute14:41
apacheloggerinstall(TARGETS qapt14:42
apachelogger    LIBRARY DESTINATION lib${LIB_SUFFIX})14:42
apachelogger....14:42
apacheloggervs.14:43
apachelogger    LIBRARY DESTINATION ${CMAKE_INSTALL_LIBDIR}14:43
apacheloggerin liblastfm14:43
apacheloggerso indeed cmake is le fucked14:43
yofellib${LIB_SUFFIX} certainly isn't debian multiarch compatible14:44
apacheloggerwell yes14:45
apacheloggerit also overrides whatever cmake decideds to be useful14:45
apacheloggerwhich explains why qapt doesn't have the issue14:45
yofelI still don't see why it's an issue14:45
apacheloggerliblastfm following whatever cmake wants gets bitten by the change14:45
apacheloggeryofel: dh_install: liblastfm-dev missing files (usr/lib/lib*.so), aborting14:46
apacheloggerdh_install: liblastfm-dev missing files (usr/lib/lib*.so), aborting14:46
apacheloggerthat is from ubuntu3, which did not opt into multiarch14:46
apacheloggerit failed only because uptsream cmake decided it would be a good idea to make cmake always go to multiarch14:47
yofelfix the install files14:47
apacheloggerthe install file is not wrong!14:47
yofelthat IS the new default14:47
apacheloggercmake is installing crap to multiarch even tho the package is not multiarched14:47
apacheloggeryofel: it aint a default if I have to manually figure out multiarch crap in control14:48
yofelnvm me then14:48
debfxRiddell: re kdenetwork: libtelepathy-qt4-dev is in universe so unless kubuntu moves to universe very soon we should back that out for now14:52
ScottKdebfx: It can be promoted again since it used to be in Main.14:54
ScottK(no MIR paperwork needed)14:54
apacheloggeryofel: also -dev is multiarched15:04
apacheloggerwhich for example breaks cmake finder scripts15:04
apacheloggeroh15:04
apacheloggeractually that is wrong15:04
apacheloggernevermind me15:04
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soeehi15:21
debfxScottK: Ok.15:29
debfxRiddell: please don't push ~ppaX changelog versions to bzr15:32
Riddelldebfx: that's me being lazy but the meaning is just as clear I think15:34
debfxright, but it makes it more difficult when uploading everything to the main archive15:34
* ScottK concurs.15:35
Riddelldebfx: why?  it's just another sed command to change it surely?15:36
Riddellwhich is easier than editing it and changing it to UNRELEASED 50 times15:36
RiddellScottK: I take it we're not able to move libtelepathy-qt4-dev to main?15:38
debfxRiddell: there is https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk/view/head:/bin/kbuildppa and https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~debfx/+junk/kubuntu-automation/view/head:/bzr-buildpackage-ppa15:38
ScottKRiddell: we as in you and me?  No.  We need a Canonical AA to do it.15:40
Riddellright15:40
ScottKUnless you can figure out how to make it hit New.  Then you can do it.15:40
debfxapachelogger: calling bzr revert in kbuildppa seems quite dangerous to me15:52
ScottKDanger is apachelogger's middle name.15:53
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apacheloggerScottK is absolutely right16:05
ScottKOf course.16:06
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soeekate creates files backups16:58
soeeis it possible to remove all such files from selected directory and subdirectories ?16:58
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Riddelldebfx: I think 4.8.90 is ready to upload, do you agree?17:21
Riddelldebfx: how shall we do the precise backports?17:21
Riddell4.8.4 needs moved out the way still then build in -ninjas?17:21
Riddell4.8.4 is in staging, lovely17:22
ScottK4.8.4 isn't ready for prime time due to kdelibs issues.17:25
Riddellyeah I saw17:25
ScottKHowever, I hear with kdelibs 4.8.3 the rest of 4.8.4 is ~fine.17:26
ScottKIt might work to move all but kde4libs to the updates PPA.17:26
debfxkdenetwork and rocs have missing files17:28
* Riddell investigates17:29
debfxkde-runtime has KActivities disabled17:29
debfxkdepim-runtime has LibKGAPI disabled17:29
debfxnah let's wait for a proper 4.8.4 fix17:30
debfxespecially since we can't move that to p-proposed17:31
ScottKDebian is uploading kde4libs 4.8.3/KDE 4.8.4 to unstable, so they seem confident.17:31
debfxwell Debian is in a hurry to get 4.8 in before the freeze, we aren't17:31
debfxare they going to upload a 4.8.4+really4.8.3?17:33
yofelthey seem to have tracked down the 4.8.4 issues down to some nepomuk/soprano socket issues17:34
yofel(see k-c-d)17:35
highvoltagedebfx: when is debian freeze? is it a set date?17:36
debfxhighvoltage: they are targeting the second half of june17:37
debfxat least that's what the release team said in their last announcement mail17:38
soeegimme 4.8.90 for 12.04 i can test :D17:39
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debfxthere's also bug #96873417:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 968734 in kate (Ubuntu) "package kate-syntax-go (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: »/usr/share/kde4/apps/katepart/syntax/go.xml« is already in kate-data 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96873417:51
Riddelldebfx: kdepim-runtime has LibKGAPI disabled because it's in universe18:24
RiddellI reverted telepathy from kdenetwork18:25
Riddellclashing youtube.png moved out the way in kdeplasma-addons18:35
Riddellkate go.xml file moved18:46
Riddellkde-runtime and activities I'm not sure about, may well be an upstream but in the kde-runtime CMakeLists.txt file18:49
* Riddell out for a bit18:50
yofelRiddell: kde-runtime is fixed in upstream git19:03
soeeRiddell, when are you planning to move 4.8.80 from beta to backports  ?19:41
ScottKsoee: It'll be 4.9.0 that goes to the backports PPA.19:43
soee:/19:43
soeeso this packages from beta are they any safe to use ?19:43
ScottKIt's a beta.19:44
ScottKThey've been tested, but there's no guarantees.19:44
soee:)19:44
soeewell tats what i like19:45
ScottKYou should use them to test the new release and report bugs upstream.19:45
soeethats what im planning to do19:45
ScottKOTOH, if you break it and can't fix it, you get to keep both halves.  You can get some help, but they aren't really supported.19:45
soeewell ill spam yofel than :)19:46
soeeusually he can help me19:46
ScottKPerfect.19:46
yofel<insert what Scott just said here>19:47
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [975236] Konsole Ignores --display When It's Launched Via an Icon @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/975236 (by Zoffix Znet)19:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 975236 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Konsole Ignores --display When It's Launched Via an Icon" [Undecided,New]19:55
soeeuhm dependency problmes20:20
soeeyofel, may i take you few minutes ?20:30
yofela few yes, what's the problem? 20:31
soeeyofel, take a look: http://pastebin.com/NLjC0Fhm20:32
soeedependency problems after upgrade20:32
yofelhm, both kde-runtime and nepomuk-core are in the ppa though20:34
soeethe problem is with kde-runtime i think20:38
soeecan't be upgraded because kde-runtime : Requires: plasma-scriptengine-javascript (= 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu0.1) but 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1 is installed20:38
yofelI'm not sure why it would try to install kde-runtime =  4:4.8.3-0ubuntu0.1 it if already installed parts from 4.8.80 o.O20:43
soee:/20:45
soeeis it possible to force kde-runtime upgrade ?20:48
yofelsoee: what happens if you run 'sudo apt-get install kde-runtime=4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1' ?20:49
soeeyofel, same dependency problems20:50
soeehttp://pastebin.com/KhjT9UWN20:50
yofeland if you run apt-get install -f you get http://pastebin.com/NLjC0Fhm ?20:51
soeeyofel, 20:53
soeehttp://pastebin.com/BpX8zGJp20:53
soeeand if i type Yes20:53
soeea long list of info/errors:20:53
soeeits the part visible in terminal: http://pastebin.com/16wuSQk920:54
soeebasicly its all about these packages arent configuret yet20:55
soeed20:55
yofelplease try: sudo apt-get install kde-runtime=4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1 kde-runtime-data=4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa120:57
soeenope :/ http://pastebin.com/Ntu49Wz821:00
soeestrange21:00
yofelsorry, I don't see what goes wrong exactly and I'm out of time so someone else will be able to help you21:02
yofel(seems something's wrong with nepomuk-core-data and kde-runtime/-data)21:03
soeeyofel, sorry for bothering but short info21:15
soeei have removed kde-runtime (with a lot of other packages) and kde-runtime-data and installed kubuntu-desktop21:15
soeeall went ok now21:15
yofel... as long as it went fine...21:16
soeeill try to reboot and see if it works, if not ill try to contact you tomorrow from laptop21:16
soeebrb21:16
soeeback21:20
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