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| thumper | wahay | 08:37 |
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| thumper | just got merge proposal 110000 | 08:37 |
| * thumper does a little dance | 08:37 | |
| seb128 | hey | 08:38 |
| seb128 | I nomited https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-sso-client/+bug/711413 for some ubuntu series and it seems to have "broken" it | 08:38 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 711413 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu Quantal) "ubuntu-sso-login crashed with DBusException in __new__(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-zPW5jjeWfI: Connection refused" [High,Triaged] | 08:38 |
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| seb128 | like it keeps timeouting since | 08:39 |
| seb128 | is that a known issue? | 08:39 |
| czajkowski | seb128: what oops are you seeing | 08:40 |
| czajkowski | I'm just triaging something similar here for another bug | 08:40 |
| seb128 | (Error ID: OOPS- | 08:40 |
| seb128 | 7a4ed505a6a7ca6b4f403f75264c0ac9 | 08:40 |
| seb128 | ) | 08:40 |
| seb128 | is the one I just got | 08:40 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, can you load this page? | 08:40 |
| czajkowski | seb128: which page? | 08:40 |
| czajkowski | seb128: the bug you listed, yes | 08:41 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, right, 711413, it doesn't timeout for you? | 08:41 |
| czajkowski | nope | 08:41 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, 477d0110a8c8ada4c07a637a43d0a030 is another oops number I got | 08:41 |
| czajkowski | seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1012309 | 08:42 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1012309 in Launchpad itself "timeout when attempting to add a distrotask to a new bug" [Critical,Triaged] | 08:42 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, right, it's not only "when attempting to", in fact the adding worked, it's "impossible to add once ..." | 08:43 |
| seb128 | like I can't load that bug since I nominated it for precise | 08:43 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, thanks | 08:43 |
| czajkowski | wgrant: ^^ | 08:44 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, wgrant: that's a blocker for distro | 08:44 |
| seb128 | it's screwed LTS work | 08:44 |
| seb128 | screwing | 08:44 |
| czajkowski | seb128: annoying as it sounds, it's loading for me but I have seen some people say they cant load some pages when others can | 08:44 |
| seb128 | like I can't load bugs that are nominated for precise | 08:44 |
| seb128 | did you guys reduce timeouts delay recently? | 08:45 |
| czajkowski | seb128: not that I know of no. | 08:45 |
| seb128 | ok, somebody on #ubuntu-bugs mentioned that yesterday | 08:46 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur said he wasn't able to get any work done because launchpad keeps timeouting, I guess that's when he opened the bug you should pointed | 08:46 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, wgrant: do you have any idea how long it's going to have it looked at? | 08:46 |
| czajkowski | seb128: maintence squad look at them but there are already a lot marked critical | 08:47 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, well that one started recently and is breaking ubuntu security team and LTS team work, how can we escalate it? | 08:49 |
| czajkowski | seb128: let me just find out | 08:50 |
| wgrant | It's mostly because it has a lot of dupes, it seems. | 08:51 |
| wgrant | czajkowski: That bug is unrelated | 08:51 |
| seb128 | wgrant, hum, it was loading fine before I nominated it for precise | 08:52 |
| seb128 | but maybe I got lucky on the first try | 08:52 |
| wgrant | seb128: 1012309 is specifically about nomination approval timing out. | 08:55 |
| wgrant | Which this clearly is not. | 08:55 |
| wgrant | It's rendering just under the timeout for now. The OOPS ID you gave shows a 2ms query randomly taking 500ms, possible due to Python sucking at threading. | 08:55 |
| seb128 | wgrant, both 7a4ed505a6a7ca6b4f403f75264c0ac9 and 477d0110a8c8ada4c07a637a43d0a030 are the same issue? | 08:57 |
| seb128 | wgrant, well, the nomination timeouted and since I can't reload the bug at all | 08:57 |
| seb128 | b2a034d4b516aa0bb1c5aa4cc1725851 this time | 08:57 |
| wgrant | seb128: We've increased the bug page timeout so that should just be slow rather than broken. | 09:18 |
| seb128 | wgrant, I can load that page against, thanks a lot! | 09:18 |
| seb128 | doh, against->again | 09:18 |
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| joey | czajkowski: matsubara - howdy, I'm sure there is a bug against LP to allow the same email address to be used for multiple teams but I can't find one. Any ideas? | 16:54 |
| czajkowski | joey: ello, you do come up with some dooseies! :) | 16:55 |
| czajkowski | lemmie go and see | 16:55 |
| czajkowski | joey: no such luck found https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/950804 but not teams :/ | 16:58 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 950804 in MAAS "Same email address for multiple users" [High,Fix released] | 16:58 |
| czajkowski | matsubara: ping | 16:58 |
| joey | czajkowski: thanks. So the use case is that the ~linaro-sysadmins managed a number of teams and all the adds and removes during normal operations go to users and not to the sysadmins | 16:58 |
| joey | czajkowski: so I get questions about "what does ~linaro being made a member of ~linaro-lava-access mean to me and why did I get this email" | 16:59 |
| czajkowski | nods | 16:59 |
| joey | czajkowski: I want the standard sysadmin email to be in use as the email contact for all those teams | 17:00 |
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| czajkowski | and it won't let you? | 17:00 |
| joey | czajkowski: right it won't because I used it for another team | 17:09 |
| czajkowski | sinzui: have you seen any issue like this before or is there a work around? | 17:09 |
| sinzui | czajkowski, joey. No. Emails cannot be shared. You can register a zillion alias at the mail provider, and then register each alias for a team | 17:11 |
| czajkowski | joey: see sinzui knows all | 17:13 |
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| joey | sinzui: yeah for me that means google apps alias | 17:14 |
| joey | sinzui: is there any particular reason that's still valid for that restrictive behaviour? | 17:14 |
| joey | sinzui: email addys aren't used as a key in the table is it? | 17:15 |
| sinzui | allows teams to share unique identification information leads to untrust and is an attack vector | 17:15 |
| sinzui | We pondered removing team email addresses since we know a team does not have full control over it's email address | 17:16 |
| joey | sinzui: well in this case I only care about notifications to the team NOT going to the team members but to somewhere else | 17:17 |
| sinzui | joey, yes. I think the issue here is that we may want Lp to only send notification to team admins. | 17:18 |
| joey | sinzui: THAT would be my ideal, yes | 17:20 |
| sinzui | adding a member, admin, or none option may improve lp performance since sending to members can be very expensive | 17:20 |
| joey | sinzui: because my the OWNER of my teams is the same team (~linaro-sysadmins) and it uses the email address I want to use as the contact | 17:20 |
| sinzui | ah, that would work | 17:21 |
| dobey | +1 for admin/owner notifications instead of all members | 17:21 |
| sinzui | joey, dobey I am reporting this issue. We have a request to only send to members (which I think i bogus). Supporting admins only seems to also fix the root issue of why users want to reuse email addresses. | 17:24 |
| joey | sinzui: +1 on that | 17:27 |
| joey | sinzui: so, you know me too well, answer the next question I'm going to ask :-) | 17:27 |
| sinzui | joey. I do not know. I have friday to do what I want. I need to make a case that this is either a performance fix, or this is actually a part of disclosure... | 17:28 |
| sinzui | joey, are you concerned that members are seeing confidential information? | 17:28 |
| joey | sinzui: thanks. :-) No security concerns on my end, just annoyance from users at LP spam | 17:29 |
| joey | sinzui: if that issue is a bug can you please tag it with "linaro" and sub me to it please? | 17:29 |
| joey | pretty please with sugar on top | 17:29 |
| sinzui | okay. I will discuss this with the purple squad. wgrant may see a security benefit for this change. We certainly would get a performance benefit | 17:30 |
| joey | yeah definitely on performance. Right now any change I make emails ~280+ people at least once vs just 1 email address (which is a non-LP list0 | 17:30 |
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| dobey | although, i do like that changes to bugs where teams are the driver/bugmaster/subscribed/whatever, mails all members | 17:32 |
| joey | sinzui: I could envision a scenario for private teams where security might be an issue | 17:32 |
| dobey | but it is also annoying | 17:33 |
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| joey | sinzui: but my scenerio there is an edge case I think | 17:33 |
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| sinzui | dobey, right. I think the issue here is that there are cases where users must be members of team to have permission, but the members do not necessarily need/want all emails to the team. Lp rarely distinguished between an issue that only concerns the admin and one that concerns the members. | 17:35 |
| dobey | right | 17:37 |
| joey | emphasis on rarely | 17:40 |
| joey | sinzui: you could also make the subtle claim that LP notification spam is detracting from the user experience and overall happiness with LP | 17:41 |
| sinzui | We all believe that. | 17:42 |
| matsubara | joey, I think this might be related to your issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/156340 | 18:13 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 156340 in Launchpad itself "Need to be able to associate multiple email addresses with a team" [Low,Triaged] | 18:13 |
| matsubara | but I'm not really here anymore :-) | 18:14 |
| matsubara | and forgot to afk myself | 18:14 |
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| lifeless | joey: you might want to hang out in #launchpad-dev | 18:48 |
| joey | lifeless: is that an invitation or a threat? :-) | 18:58 |
| lifeless | joey: yes. | 18:59 |
| lifeless | joey: 06:31 < lifeless> sinzui: bug 1012787 - what mails are going to the team membership ? {I'm wondering if its unneeded complexity and that the actual problem is unnecessary notification emails/implicit subscriptions} | 19:00 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1012787 in Launchpad itself "cannot team restrict emails to go to the team admin" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1012787 | 19:00 |
| lifeless | 06:38 < sinzui> lifeless, joey can provide example of emails that he does not want members to get | 19:00 |
| lifeless | joey: thrilling discussion you missed out on. | 19:00 |
| * joey sighs. "Ok brt" | 19:00 | |
| czajkowski | joey: you got sorted then :) | 19:09 |
| joey | czajkowski: Hi. heh... well not yet sorted but the right people with the right talent are thinking about it. | 19:10 |
| joey | czajkowski: it's a headache for me but it's not the end of the world for LP you know | 19:10 |
| joey | czajkowski: so I'm grateful for them reviewing it | 19:10 |
| czajkowski | excellent | 19:10 |
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| scientes | any way i can subscribe to uploads here: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa | 20:35 |
| scientes | like i can to debian BTS ? | 20:35 |
| BlessJah | i'm getting (OOPS ID: 2356canistellaunchpad637) while trying to log into stackoverflow using launchpads OpenID | 20:36 |
| BlessJah | few days ago i've tried to login with the same result | 20:37 |
| ahasenack | hi, I'm getting repeated oopses when trying to file a bug | 20:40 |
| ahasenack | here is the most recent one: OOPS-c60c307180525b438f024625703e22c0 | 20:41 |
| ubot5` | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=c60c307180525b438f024625703e22c0 | 20:41 |
| lifeless | what is the oops | 20:41 |
| lifeless | thanks | 20:41 |
| ahasenack | about 5 or 6 so far | 20:41 |
| ahasenack | ah, forgot to mention, it's a timeout | 20:41 |
| lifeless | ahasenack: use less terms in your subject | 20:41 |
| ahasenack | hm | 20:41 |
| lifeless | ahasenack: like, way less. Less specific rather than super specific. | 20:42 |
| ahasenack | lifeless: ok, worked, thanks | 20:42 |
| lifeless | ahasenack: you can do full detail after the dupe detection has run. | 20:42 |
| ahasenack | yep, good idea | 20:42 |
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| BlessJah | (OOPS ID: 2356canistellaunchpad637) while trying to log into stackoverflow using launchpads OpenID | 21:34 |
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