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thumperwahay08:37
thumperjust got merge proposal 11000008:37
* thumper does a little dance08:37
seb128hey08:38
seb128I nomited https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-sso-client/+bug/711413 for some ubuntu series and it seems to have "broken" it08:38
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 711413 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu Quantal) "ubuntu-sso-login crashed with DBusException in __new__(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-zPW5jjeWfI: Connection refused" [High,Triaged]08:38
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seb128like it keeps timeouting since08:39
seb128is that a known issue?08:39
czajkowskiseb128: what oops are you seeing08:40
czajkowskiI'm just triaging something similar here for another bug08:40
seb128(Error ID: OOPS-08:40
seb1287a4ed505a6a7ca6b4f403f75264c0ac908:40
seb128)08:40
seb128is the one I just got08:40
seb128czajkowski, can you load this page?08:40
czajkowskiseb128: which page?08:40
czajkowskiseb128: the bug you listed, yes08:41
seb128czajkowski, right, 711413, it doesn't timeout for you?08:41
czajkowskinope08:41
seb128czajkowski, 477d0110a8c8ada4c07a637a43d0a030 is another oops number I got08:41
czajkowskiseb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/101230908:42
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1012309 in Launchpad itself "timeout when attempting to add a distrotask to a new bug" [Critical,Triaged]08:42
seb128czajkowski, right, it's not only "when attempting to", in fact the adding worked, it's "impossible to add once ..."08:43
seb128like I can't load that bug since I nominated it for precise08:43
seb128czajkowski, thanks08:43
czajkowskiwgrant: ^^08:44
seb128czajkowski, wgrant: that's a blocker for distro08:44
seb128it's screwed LTS work08:44
seb128screwing08:44
czajkowskiseb128: annoying as it sounds, it's loading for me but I have seen some people say they cant load some pages when others can08:44
seb128like I can't load bugs that are nominated for precise08:44
seb128did you guys reduce timeouts delay recently?08:45
czajkowskiseb128: not that I know of no.08:45
seb128ok, somebody on #ubuntu-bugs mentioned that yesterday08:46
seb128mdeslaur said he wasn't able to get any work done because launchpad keeps timeouting, I guess that's when he opened the bug you should pointed08:46
seb128czajkowski, wgrant: do you have any idea how long it's going to have it looked at?08:46
czajkowskiseb128: maintence squad look at them but there are already a lot marked critical08:47
seb128czajkowski, well that one started recently and is breaking ubuntu security team and LTS team work, how can we escalate it?08:49
czajkowskiseb128: let me just find out08:50
wgrantIt's mostly because it has a lot of dupes, it seems.08:51
wgrantczajkowski: That bug is unrelated08:51
seb128wgrant, hum, it was loading fine before I nominated it for precise08:52
seb128but maybe I got lucky on the first try08:52
wgrantseb128: 1012309 is specifically about nomination approval timing out.08:55
wgrantWhich this clearly is not.08:55
wgrantIt's rendering just under the timeout for now. The OOPS ID you gave shows a 2ms query randomly taking 500ms, possible due to Python sucking at threading.08:55
seb128wgrant, both 7a4ed505a6a7ca6b4f403f75264c0ac9 and 477d0110a8c8ada4c07a637a43d0a030 are the same issue?08:57
seb128wgrant, well, the nomination timeouted and since I can't reload the bug at all08:57
seb128b2a034d4b516aa0bb1c5aa4cc1725851 this time08:57
wgrantseb128: We've increased the bug page timeout so that should just be slow rather than broken.09:18
seb128wgrant, I can load that page against, thanks a lot!09:18
seb128doh, against->again09:18
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joeyczajkowski: matsubara - howdy, I'm sure there is a bug against LP to allow the same email address to be used for multiple teams but I can't find one.  Any ideas?16:54
czajkowskijoey: ello, you do come up with some dooseies! :)16:55
czajkowskilemmie go and see16:55
czajkowskijoey: no such luck found https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/950804  but not teams :/16:58
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 950804 in MAAS "Same email address for multiple users" [High,Fix released]16:58
czajkowskimatsubara: ping16:58
joeyczajkowski: thanks.  So the use case is that the ~linaro-sysadmins managed a number of teams and all the adds and removes during normal operations go to users and not to the sysadmins16:58
joeyczajkowski: so I get questions about "what does ~linaro being made a member of ~linaro-lava-access mean to me and why did I get this email"16:59
czajkowskinods16:59
joeyczajkowski: I want the standard sysadmin email to be in use as the email contact for all those teams17:00
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czajkowskiand it won't let you?17:00
joeyczajkowski: right it won't because I used it for another team17:09
czajkowskisinzui: have you seen any issue like this before or is there a work around?17:09
sinzuiczajkowski, joey. No. Emails cannot be shared. You can register a zillion alias at the mail provider, and then register each alias for a team17:11
czajkowskijoey: see sinzui knows all17:13
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joeysinzui: yeah for me that means google apps alias17:14
joeysinzui: is there any particular reason that's still valid for that restrictive behaviour?17:14
joeysinzui: email addys aren't used as a key in the table is it?17:15
sinzuiallows teams to share unique identification information leads to untrust and is an attack vector17:15
sinzuiWe pondered removing team email addresses since we know a team does not have full control over it's email address17:16
joeysinzui: well in this case I only care about notifications to the team NOT going to the team members but to somewhere else17:17
sinzuijoey, yes. I think the issue here is that we may want Lp to only send notification to team admins.17:18
joeysinzui: THAT would be my ideal, yes17:20
sinzuiadding a member, admin, or none option may improve lp performance since sending to members can be very expensive17:20
joeysinzui: because my the OWNER of my teams is the same team (~linaro-sysadmins) and it uses the email address I want to use as the contact17:20
sinzuiah, that would work17:21
dobey+1 for admin/owner notifications instead of all members17:21
sinzuijoey, dobey I am reporting this issue. We have a request to only send to members (which I think i bogus). Supporting admins only seems to also fix the root issue of why users want to reuse email addresses.17:24
joeysinzui: +1 on that17:27
joeysinzui: so, you know me too well, answer the next question I'm going to ask :-)17:27
sinzuijoey. I do not know. I have friday to do what I want. I need to make a case that this is either a performance fix, or this is actually a part of disclosure...17:28
sinzuijoey, are you concerned that members are seeing confidential information?17:28
joeysinzui: thanks. :-)  No security concerns on my end, just annoyance from users at LP spam17:29
joeysinzui: if that issue is a bug can you please tag it with  "linaro" and sub me to it please?17:29
joeypretty please with sugar on top17:29
sinzuiokay. I will discuss this with the purple squad. wgrant may see a security benefit for this change. We certainly would get a performance benefit17:30
joeyyeah definitely on performance.  Right now any change I make emails ~280+ people at least once vs just 1 email address (which is a  non-LP list017:30
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dobeyalthough, i do like that changes to bugs where teams are the driver/bugmaster/subscribed/whatever, mails all members17:32
joeysinzui: I could envision a scenario for private teams where security might be an issue17:32
dobeybut it is also annoying17:33
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joeysinzui: but my scenerio there is an edge case I think17:33
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sinzuidobey, right. I think the issue here is that there are cases where users must be members of team to have permission, but the members do not necessarily need/want all emails to the team. Lp rarely distinguished between an issue that only concerns the admin and one that concerns the members.17:35
dobeyright17:37
joeyemphasis on rarely17:40
joeysinzui: you could also make the subtle claim that LP notification spam is detracting from the user experience and overall happiness with LP17:41
sinzuiWe all believe that.17:42
matsubarajoey, I think this might be related to your issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/15634018:13
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 156340 in Launchpad itself "Need to be able to associate multiple email addresses with a team" [Low,Triaged]18:13
matsubarabut I'm not really here anymore :-)18:14
matsubaraand forgot to afk myself18:14
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lifelessjoey: you might want to hang out in #launchpad-dev18:48
joeylifeless: is that an invitation or a threat? :-)18:58
lifelessjoey: yes.18:59
lifelessjoey: 06:31 < lifeless> sinzui: bug 1012787 - what mails are going to the team membership ? {I'm wondering if its unneeded complexity and that the actual problem is unnecessary notification emails/implicit subscriptions}19:00
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1012787 in Launchpad itself "cannot team restrict emails to go to the team admin" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101278719:00
lifeless06:38 < sinzui> lifeless, joey can provide example of emails that he does not want members to get19:00
lifelessjoey: thrilling discussion you missed out on.19:00
* joey sighs. "Ok brt"19:00
czajkowskijoey: you got sorted then :)19:09
joeyczajkowski: Hi. heh... well not yet sorted but the right people with the right talent are thinking about it.19:10
joeyczajkowski: it's a headache for me but it's not the end of the world for LP you know19:10
joeyczajkowski: so I'm grateful for them reviewing it19:10
czajkowskiexcellent19:10
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scientesany way i can subscribe to uploads here: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa20:35
scienteslike i can to debian BTS ?20:35
BlessJahi'm getting (OOPS ID: 2356canistellaunchpad637) while trying to log into stackoverflow using launchpads OpenID20:36
BlessJahfew days ago i've tried to login with the same result20:37
ahasenackhi, I'm getting repeated oopses when trying to file a bug20:40
ahasenackhere is the most recent one: OOPS-c60c307180525b438f024625703e22c020:41
ubot5`https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=c60c307180525b438f024625703e22c020:41
lifelesswhat is the oops20:41
lifelessthanks20:41
ahasenackabout 5 or 6 so far20:41
ahasenackah, forgot to mention, it's a timeout20:41
lifelessahasenack: use less terms in your subject20:41
ahasenackhm20:41
lifelessahasenack: like, way less. Less specific rather than super specific.20:42
ahasenacklifeless: ok, worked, thanks20:42
lifelessahasenack: you can do full detail after the dupe detection has run.20:42
ahasenackyep, good idea20:42
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BlessJah(OOPS ID: 2356canistellaunchpad637) while trying to log into stackoverflow using launchpads OpenID21:34

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