[00:07] okay, nevermind. The Unetbootin USB drive does work, just not on that computer for some reason :/ (The usb-creator-gtk drive doesn't boot on any machine). [08:29] Morning mates,one question ; is it possible to install this boot loader in Lubuntu? I kinda made Lubuntu my main OS So I dont wonna mess it up. [08:29] ohh the link is : http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-install-burg-in-ubuntu/ === SM0TVI-2 is now known as SM0TVI [11:43] hello guys I need help with Lubuntu [11:44] anyone around [11:44] seems very quiet in here [11:45] i have a problem with the fonts === avelldiroll is now known as plantigrade === wxl is now known as bikefridaywalter === bikefridaywalter is now known as wxl [14:58] hi [15:00] Hi, I'm new to lubuntu and am having a strange problem with lxterminal. [15:00] !strange [15:01] When I use the keyboard shortcuts for copy and paste, I'm sending a ^C and then pasting has a control character in it. [15:01] Any idea what might be wrong? [15:01] jeward: just in the stuff pasted in the terminal? [15:01] jeward: i've heard this mentioned and surely i experience it as well but i'm not sure anything has been done to resolve it [15:02] When I hit CTRL-SHIFT-C, the shell receives a ^C. [15:02] The text is copied into the buffer. [15:03] When I then hit CTRL-SHIFT-V to paste it, the text is pasted into the terminal, then the next character I type is ... "quoted"? [15:03] As if I'd hit ^V. [15:03] Yeah, that makes sense. [15:03] The CTRL characters are getting through. [15:04] I guess I can just change terminals... [15:04] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxterminal/+bug/971918 [15:04] there's a patch [15:04] Launchpad bug 971918 in lxterminal (Ubuntu) "Ctrl-Shift-C issues a Break command" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:04] But... strange that that is a known problem and released in lubuntu? [15:04] bugs come and go [15:04] Checking that link. [15:04] lxterm is released in lubuntu [15:05] So I'd need to compile it from source? [15:05] ideally, it will get fixed upstream.. i assume if it were easy, it would be fixed [15:05] i wouldn't be surprised if there aren't higher priority bugs [15:06] I have a document around here somewhere for compiling things from source properly. I do it to up the number of ptys GNU screen has. [15:06] hehe... yeah, could be just that simple [15:06] jeward: if its still a bug in the latest version, you'll still have that issue [15:07] Well, I'd have to apply the patch. [15:07] You guys don't copy and paste in lxterm? [15:07] i dont use lxterm [15:07] all the time [15:07] i just deal with it ^ as above [15:07] wxl: You patched it and compiled from source? [15:08] nope [15:08] that's why that link looks funky [15:08] You just deal with the ^C and ^V being passed? [15:08] compare https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxterminal/+bug/971918 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxterminal/+bug/971918 [15:08] Launchpad bug 971918 in lxterminal (Ubuntu) "Ctrl-Shift-C issues a Break command" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:08] i delete the ^C's [15:08] annoying but i deal [15:09] I think I'll just substitute a different terminal. :-) [15:09] i just live with the ^V's except for one irssi script that i need to delete them [15:09] i live in the terminal but i don't bother [15:09] it will be fixed [15:09] holstein: What's your terminal of choice? [15:10] usually just the gnome terminal [15:10] * wxl barfs [15:10] its what i got used to [15:10] Yeah, that's mostly what I've been using too. [15:10] i like it just fine [15:10] works better for me with barf on it than lxterm [15:10] :-) [15:11] Wow, it does have a few dependencies. [15:11] exactly the reason for the barf [15:11] Maybe I'll try rxvt. [15:11] try them all [15:11] A bunch of my coworkers like terminator. [15:12] i usually load up one new one, try it.. then just install the gnome one [15:12] :-) [15:14] Ever tried one of those drop down terminals? [15:14] Like guake? [15:14] i live in the terminal; don't work for me [15:14] Yeah, I didn't get along well with them either. [15:15] 98% of my desktop is terminal ;) [15:15] :-) [15:15] I can't believe you live with the copy andpaste bug! [15:15] i know [15:15] That would drive me insane! [15:15] i was prolly one of the first to complain [15:16] i thought it was just me [15:16] :-) [15:16] If I hadn't JUST installed lubuntu, I'd have through the same thing. [15:17] In fact, I DON'T think I have the same problem at home on my X220 Thinkpad... [15:18] Hmm, aterm looks nice and light. [15:18] I have to decide if I care about tabs. [15:18] Ah, aterm uses mouse button copy and paste. [15:19] I think I may have become spoiled by keyboard copy and paste. [15:20] i don't bother with tabs [15:20] that's what tmux is for [15:21] Yeah, my situation is kinda complicated. :-) I ssh into a jump box where I attach to my tmux session. Then I often run various screen sessions in tmux windows. :-) [15:22] that seems unnecessarily complicated [15:22] Weeelll.... I have my reasons. [15:23] I COULD do everything from my laptop over the VPN, but I find doing it all from the tmux session on the jump box to be more reliable. [15:24] it's ok-- i have three different machines i use tmux on so have the meta bound to three different things as i often run one of them inside another [15:25] Yeah, tmux is pretty awesome. [15:25] pretty much [15:25] We have a tool we use written in perl that does all the screen sessions. [15:25] but tmux in tmux on the same machine-- not so much [15:25] I've been thinking of trying to modify it to use tmux, but haven't had the time and inclination at the same point. [15:27] surely you could script something [15:27] have an alternate .tmux.conf [15:28] Well, it's more complicated than that. The perscript use expect to automate tasks via screen sessions. [15:28] perls script [15:29] So... I'd have to duplicate the way it automates things through screen in tmux. [15:29] Something to try when I'm bored someday. :-) [15:30] eterm looks kinda nice and small. [15:32] Wow: [15:32] Eterm is VERY small, but the copy doesn't work so well. [15:33] You think gnome-terminal has a lot of baggage... try konsole. :-) [15:33] i'm good [15:34] :-) [15:34] needless to say i'm grabbing source [15:34] we'll see who gets done first :) [15:34] The dependencies scrolled off the screen. :-) [15:34] You're going to patch the source? [15:34] I should do that too. [15:34] Let me find my document. [15:35] I'd prefer lxterm. [15:35] sudo apt-get source lxterminal [15:35] K. [15:37] Got it, had to install dpkg-dev. [15:38] Now we patch it with the patch from your link above? [15:38] yepp [15:39] I put that in a file and then run patch against it? [15:39] yep [15:39] 2nd one didn't seem to work [15:40] of course the 1st didn't either wtf [15:42] Maybe we need some more arguments to patch? [15:44] oh [15:44] heh [15:44] nevermind [15:44] ? [15:44] Looks like it's already in there? [15:44] was using -p0 [15:44] not necessary [15:45] oh really? [15:45] Did you get it to patch? [15:45] Well, looking at the code and the patch is making my head swim a little. :-) [15:45] But I haven't gotten it to patch yet. [15:45] You? [15:45] yep [15:46] cd src && patch < /path/to/patch [15:46] Oh, I got it! [15:46] then [15:46] cd .. && ./configure && make && make install [15:47] assuming you don't have errors with ./configure [15:47] I think there's a more official way that builds the package. [15:47] Trying to get my certs loaded so I can get to my document. :-) [15:48] making [15:49] brb [15:49] This is what I was looking for: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rebuilding-ubuntu-debian-linux-binary-package/ [15:52] rmind │··········································································· [15:52] sorry [15:52] works tho [15:52] ;) [15:52] I don't know about you, but I think I just had to install WAY more stuff to compile it than gnome-terminal. :-) [15:52] hahahah [15:52] well [15:52] i don't have that problem [15:52] :-) [15:52] Still installing compile dependencies. :-) [15:53] i have had wont to compile stuff before [15:53] so i already had it [15:53] but htat's your problem ;) [15:53] I guessed. :-) [15:54] My install is virginal! [15:54] hey thanks for lighting a fire under my you-know-what [15:55] man that dpkg methodology seems so much more complicated [15:55] Yeah. [15:55] But it works. :-) [15:55] Automagicall installs all the dependencies. [15:55] woop woop [15:55] Which would have taken a long time manually! [15:56] Compiled and installed... testing. [15:56] Sweet! [15:56] :-) [15:56] yep [15:57] do yo uhave a launchpad account? [15:57] I don't think so? [15:57] you should make yourself one [15:57] and confirm the patch fixes the bug [15:57] i install the last patch [15:57] so i'm going to check the other stuff too [15:57] Cool. [15:57] yep [15:57] new tabs work now [15:57] they didn't before [15:57] again i never used them but still [15:58] I like to have one tab on my local box and one on the jump box. [16:01] Oh, no here's a strange issue... When I hilight text in chromium, I can't easily see what's hilighted. [16:01] Maybe it's the color... [16:01] hm [16:01] give me the url [16:01] Yeah, chroium's default text hilight just happens to be the same color as the background of the text I'm hilighting. :-/ [16:01] I wonder how hard that is to change? [16:02] I can see it if I focus on another window... [16:02] But that's kind of a pain. [16:02] not too hard [16:02] Looking in settings... [16:02] It's a theme thing? [16:03] yep [16:03] Wow... so ... many... themes.... [16:03] hehehe [16:04] That's better, thanks! [16:04] :-) [16:04] preferences > customize look and feel > color > use customized color scheme checkbox > background on selected items [16:04] I jusy chose the "Google Theme". [16:04] just [16:06] man i love chromium [16:07] i've been a forever-user of firefox and recently made the switch [16:07] in fact i'd been through a version or two of lubuntu without using chromium [16:07] I'm a big chromium fan, one of the reasons I decided to try lubuntu. [16:07] huh [16:07] I found straight ubuntu a bit heavy for this laptop. [16:08] It's only got 1G of RAM. [16:08] lxde was really the thing that coerced me [16:08] Unity was kinda sluggish. [16:09] There must be fifteen gazillion chromium themes... [16:09] yeah [16:10] Ooooh, I like Slinky Brushed. :-) [17:32] Hey guys, where can I get some nice Lubuntu 12.04 themes? [17:34] Dunno, I just themed chromium. [17:34] the browser? [17:34] I want to theme the OS, lol [17:35] Yeah, I know, just sayin' that's all I've done so far. [17:35] http://box-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=7402 [17:35] ^ sdfsd64 [17:35] * jeward == lubuntu newb. [17:36] I'm a n00b too. Anyways, I know that site before, low amount of themes and way too dark for me === smile is now known as smile-busy [17:43] one question [17:43] Do the themes need to be especially made for Lxde to work? [17:44] if they're not openbox themes they're not going to work with openbox ;) [17:44] :( [17:44] http://www.linuxandlife.com/2012/02/nice-dark-gtk-themes-by-crazyt.html [17:45] he's running archbang, which is openbox, but the themes are for Gnome?! [17:45] performance > aesthetics [17:45] wxl: Amen. [17:45] gtk is not gnome [17:45] you should be able to make those work [17:46] lol. it says: "Depends on: Gnome 3.x" [17:47] gtk != gnome [17:49] Tell that to this guy: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Black-n-White-GTK?content=149636 [17:51] the gtk toolkit is the basis of gnome [17:51] but gnome is much more than gtk [17:52] but what does gtk have to do with linux anyways? It's for making GUIs, right? [17:52] yep: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK%2B [17:53] so, is LXDE, Gtk? [17:54] it's written in c with the gtk+ toolkit [17:54] cool. ty [17:54] np [18:32] bye :) [19:18] i am trying to use conky with lubuntu, but have an issue where conky disappears if i click on the desktop. anyone know what to do about this? [19:18] what's your window settings [19:19] own_window_type normal [19:19] own_window_type desktop [19:19] ok [19:20] bioterror: tyvm [19:20] np [19:33] whats the name of the file browsing program, it's nautilus on ubuntu but whats it on lubuntu? [19:34] ah found it, it's pcmanfm [21:39] hi [21:39] any lubuntu-software center hackers here ? [21:42] daker-cloud: If you are trying to report a bug in lubuntu-software-center, I'd suggest using LaunchPad for that purpose. === SM0TVI-2 is now known as SM0TVI [23:42] hello ppl, any1 knows how i can restart the LXDE display without logout? [23:43] CrazyGangster: openbox --restart [23:43] 'sudo service lightdm restart' ? [23:44] wow quick reply, i will give a try