[00:07] <linelevel> okay, nevermind. The Unetbootin USB drive does work, just not on that computer for some reason :/   (The usb-creator-gtk drive doesn't boot on any machine).
[08:29] <op_> Morning mates,one question ; is it possible to install this boot loader in Lubuntu? I kinda made Lubuntu my main OS So I dont wonna mess it up.
[08:29] <op_> ohh the link is : http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-install-burg-in-ubuntu/
[11:43] <Guest65975> hello guys I need help with Lubuntu
[11:44] <Guest65975> anyone around
[11:44] <Guest65975> seems very quiet in here
[11:45] <Guest65975> i have a problem with the fonts
[14:58] <leszek> hi
[15:00] <jeward> Hi, I'm new to lubuntu and am having a strange problem with lxterminal.
[15:00] <holstein> !strange
[15:01] <jeward> When I use the keyboard shortcuts for copy and paste, I'm sending a ^C and then pasting has a control character in it.
[15:01] <jeward> Any idea what might be wrong?
[15:01] <holstein> jeward: just in the stuff pasted in the terminal?
[15:01] <wxl> jeward: i've heard this mentioned and surely i experience it as well but i'm not sure anything has been done to resolve it
[15:02] <jeward> When I hit CTRL-SHIFT-C, the shell receives a ^C.
[15:02] <jeward> The text is copied into the buffer.
[15:03] <jeward> When I then hit CTRL-SHIFT-V to paste it, the text is pasted into the terminal, then the next character I type is ... "quoted"?
[15:03] <jeward> As if I'd hit ^V.
[15:03] <jeward> Yeah, that makes sense.
[15:03] <jeward> The CTRL characters are getting through.
[15:04] <jeward> I guess I can just change terminals...
[15:04] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxterminal/+bug/971918
[15:04] <wxl> there's a patch
[15:04] <jeward> But... strange that that is a known problem and released in lubuntu?
[15:04] <wxl> bugs come and go
[15:04] <jeward> Checking that link.
[15:04] <holstein> lxterm is released in lubuntu
[15:05] <jeward> So I'd need to compile it from source?
[15:05] <holstein> ideally, it will get fixed upstream.. i assume if it were easy, it would be fixed
[15:05] <wxl> i wouldn't be surprised if there aren't higher priority bugs
[15:06] <jeward> I have a document around here somewhere for compiling things from source properly.  I do it to up the number of ptys GNU screen has.
[15:06] <holstein> hehe... yeah, could be just that simple
[15:06] <holstein> jeward: if its still a bug in the latest version, you'll still have that issue
[15:07] <jeward> Well, I'd have to apply the patch.
[15:07] <jeward> You guys don't copy and paste in lxterm?
[15:07] <holstein> i dont use lxterm
[15:07] <wxl> all the time
[15:07] <wxl> i just deal with it ^ as above
[15:07] <jeward> wxl: You patched it and compiled from source?
[15:08] <wxl> nope
[15:08] <wxl> that's why that link looks funky
[15:08] <jeward> You just deal with the ^C and ^V being passed?
[15:08] <wxl> compare https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxterminal/+bug/971918 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxterminal/+bug/971918
[15:08] <wxl> i delete the ^C's
[15:08] <wxl> annoying but i deal
[15:09] <jeward> I think I'll just substitute a different terminal. :-)
[15:09] <wxl> i just live with the ^V's except for one irssi script that i need to delete them
[15:09] <wxl> i live in the terminal but i don't bother
[15:09] <wxl> it will be fixed
[15:09] <jeward> holstein: What's your terminal of choice?
[15:10] <holstein> usually just the gnome terminal
[15:10]  * wxl barfs
[15:10] <holstein> its what i got used to
[15:10] <jeward> Yeah, that's mostly what I've been using too.
[15:10] <holstein> i like it just fine
[15:10] <holstein> works better for me with barf on it than lxterm
[15:10] <jeward> :-)
[15:11] <jeward> Wow, it does have a few dependencies.
[15:11] <wxl> exactly the reason for the barf
[15:11] <jeward> Maybe I'll try rxvt.
[15:11] <holstein> try them all
[15:11] <jeward> A bunch of my coworkers like terminator.
[15:12] <holstein> i usually load up one new one, try it.. then just install the gnome one
[15:12] <jeward> :-)
[15:14] <jeward> Ever tried one of those drop down terminals?
[15:14] <jeward> Like guake?
[15:14] <wxl> i live in the terminal; don't work for me
[15:14] <jeward> Yeah, I didn't get along well with them either.
[15:15] <wxl> 98% of my desktop is terminal ;)
[15:15] <jeward> :-)
[15:15] <jeward> I can't believe you live with the copy andpaste bug!
[15:15] <wxl> i know
[15:15] <jeward> That would drive me insane!
[15:15] <wxl> i was prolly one of the first to complain
[15:16] <wxl> i thought it was just me
[15:16] <jeward> :-)
[15:16] <jeward> If I hadn't JUST installed lubuntu, I'd have through the same thing.
[15:17] <jeward> In fact, I DON'T think I have the same problem at home on my X220 Thinkpad...
[15:18] <jeward> Hmm, aterm looks nice and light.
[15:18] <jeward> I have to decide if I care about tabs.
[15:18] <jeward> Ah, aterm uses mouse button copy and paste.
[15:19] <jeward> I think I may have become spoiled by keyboard copy and paste.
[15:20] <wxl> i don't bother with tabs
[15:20] <wxl> that's what tmux is for
[15:21] <jeward> Yeah, my situation is kinda complicated. :-)  I ssh into a jump box where I attach to my tmux session.  Then I often run various screen sessions in tmux windows. :-)
[15:22] <wxl> that seems unnecessarily complicated
[15:22] <jeward> Weeelll.... I have my reasons.
[15:23] <jeward> I COULD do everything from my laptop over the VPN, but I find doing it all from the tmux session on the jump box to be more reliable.
[15:24] <wxl> it's ok-- i have three different machines i use tmux on so have the meta bound to three different things as i often run one of them inside another
[15:25] <jeward> Yeah, tmux is pretty awesome.
[15:25] <wxl> pretty much
[15:25] <jeward> We have a tool we use written in perl that does all the screen sessions.
[15:25] <wxl> but tmux in tmux on the same machine-- not so much
[15:25] <jeward> I've been thinking of trying to modify it to use tmux, but haven't had the time and inclination at the same point.
[15:27] <wxl> surely you could script something
[15:27] <wxl> have an alternate .tmux.conf
[15:28] <jeward> Well, it's more complicated than that.  The perscript use expect to automate tasks via screen sessions.
[15:28] <jeward> perls script
[15:29] <jeward> So... I'd have to duplicate the way it automates things through screen in tmux.
[15:29] <jeward> Something to try when I'm bored someday. :-)
[15:30] <jeward> eterm looks kinda nice and small.
[15:32] <jeward> Wow:
[15:32] <jeward> Eterm is VERY small, but the copy doesn't work so well.
[15:33] <jeward> You think gnome-terminal has a lot of baggage... try konsole. :-)
[15:33] <wxl> i'm good
[15:34] <jeward> :-)
[15:34] <wxl> needless to say i'm grabbing source
[15:34] <wxl> we'll see who gets done first :)
[15:34] <jeward> The dependencies scrolled off the screen. :-)
[15:34] <jeward> You're going to patch the source?
[15:34] <jeward> I should do that too.
[15:34] <jeward> Let me find my document.
[15:35] <jeward> I'd prefer lxterm.
[15:35] <wxl> sudo apt-get source lxterminal
[15:35] <jeward> K.
[15:37] <jeward> Got it, had to install dpkg-dev.
[15:38] <jeward> Now we patch it with the patch from your link above?
[15:38] <wxl> yepp
[15:39] <jeward> I put that in a file and then run patch against it?
[15:39] <wxl> yep
[15:39] <wxl> 2nd one didn't seem to work
[15:40] <wxl> of course the 1st didn't either wtf
[15:42] <jeward> Maybe we need some more arguments to patch?
[15:44] <wxl> oh
[15:44] <wxl> heh
[15:44] <wxl> nevermind
[15:44] <jeward> ?
[15:44] <jeward> Looks like it's already in there?
[15:44] <wxl> was using -p0
[15:44] <wxl> not necessary
[15:45] <wxl> oh really?
[15:45] <jeward> Did you get it to patch?
[15:45] <jeward> Well, looking at the code and the patch is making my head swim a little. :-)
[15:45] <jeward> But I haven't gotten it to patch yet.
[15:45] <jeward> You?
[15:45] <wxl> yep
[15:46] <wxl> cd src && patch < /path/to/patch
[15:46] <jeward> Oh, I got it!
[15:46] <wxl> then
[15:46] <wxl> cd .. && ./configure && make && make install
[15:47] <wxl> assuming you don't have errors with ./configure
[15:47] <jeward> I think there's a more official way that builds the package.
[15:47] <jeward> Trying to get my certs loaded so I can get to my document. :-)
[15:48] <wxl> making
[15:49] <wxl> brb
[15:49] <jeward> This is what I was looking for: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rebuilding-ubuntu-debian-linux-binary-package/
[15:52] <wxl> rmind                                                 │···········································································
[15:52] <wxl> sorry
[15:52] <wxl> works tho
[15:52] <wxl> ;)
[15:52] <jeward> I don't know about you, but I think I just had to install WAY more stuff to compile it than gnome-terminal. :-)
[15:52] <wxl> hahahah
[15:52] <wxl> well
[15:52] <wxl> i don't have that problem
[15:52] <jeward> :-)
[15:52] <jeward> Still installing compile dependencies. :-)
[15:53] <wxl> i have had wont to compile stuff before
[15:53] <wxl> so i already had it
[15:53] <wxl> but htat's your problem ;)
[15:53] <jeward> I guessed. :-)
[15:54] <jeward> My install is virginal!
[15:54] <wxl> hey thanks for lighting a fire under my you-know-what
[15:55] <wxl> man that dpkg methodology seems so much more complicated
[15:55] <jeward> Yeah.
[15:55] <jeward> But it works. :-)
[15:55] <jeward> Automagicall installs all the dependencies.
[15:55] <wxl> woop woop
[15:55] <jeward> Which would have taken a long time manually!
[15:56] <jeward> Compiled and installed... testing.
[15:56] <jeward> Sweet!
[15:56] <jeward> :-)
[15:56] <wxl> yep
[15:57] <wxl> do yo uhave a launchpad account?
[15:57] <jeward> I don't think so?
[15:57] <wxl> you should make yourself one
[15:57] <wxl> and confirm the patch fixes the bug
[15:57] <wxl> i install the last patch
[15:57] <wxl> so i'm going to check the other stuff too
[15:57] <jeward> Cool.
[15:57] <wxl> yep
[15:57] <wxl> new tabs work now
[15:57] <wxl> they didn't before
[15:57] <wxl> again i never used them but still
[15:58] <jeward> I like to have one tab on my local box and one on the jump box.
[16:01] <jeward> Oh, no here's a strange issue... When I hilight text in chromium, I can't easily see what's hilighted.
[16:01] <jeward> Maybe it's the color...
[16:01] <wxl> hm
[16:01] <wxl> give me the url
[16:01] <jeward> Yeah, chroium's default text hilight just happens to be the same color as the background of the text I'm hilighting. :-/
[16:01] <jeward> I wonder how hard that is to change?
[16:02] <jeward> I can see it if I focus on another window...
[16:02] <jeward> But that's kind of a pain.
[16:02] <wxl> not too hard
[16:02] <jeward> Looking in settings...
[16:02] <jeward> It's a theme thing?
[16:03] <wxl> yep
[16:03] <jeward> Wow... so ... many... themes....
[16:03] <wxl> hehehe
[16:04] <jeward> That's better, thanks!
[16:04] <jeward> :-)
[16:04] <wxl> preferences > customize look and feel > color > use customized color scheme checkbox > background on selected items
[16:04] <jeward> I jusy chose the "Google Theme".
[16:04] <jeward> just
[16:06] <wxl> man i love chromium
[16:07] <wxl> i've been a forever-user of firefox and recently made the switch
[16:07] <wxl> in fact i'd been through a version or two of lubuntu without using chromium
[16:07] <jeward> I'm a big chromium fan, one of the reasons I decided to try lubuntu.
[16:07] <wxl> huh
[16:07] <jeward> I found straight ubuntu a bit heavy for this laptop.
[16:08] <jeward> It's only got 1G of RAM.
[16:08] <wxl> lxde was really the thing that coerced me
[16:08] <jeward> Unity was kinda sluggish.
[16:09] <jeward> There must be fifteen gazillion chromium themes...
[16:09] <wxl> yeah
[16:10] <jeward> Ooooh, I like Slinky Brushed. :-)
[17:32] <sdfsd64> Hey guys, where can I get some nice Lubuntu 12.04 themes?
[17:34] <jeward> Dunno, I just themed chromium.
[17:34] <sdfsd64> the browser?
[17:34] <sdfsd64> I want to theme the OS, lol
[17:35] <jeward> Yeah, I know, just sayin' that's all I've done so far.
[17:35] <wxl> http://box-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=7402
[17:35] <wxl> ^ sdfsd64
[17:35]  * jeward == lubuntu newb.
[17:36] <sdfsd64> I'm a n00b too. Anyways, I know that site before, low amount of themes and way too dark for me
[17:43] <sdfsd64> one question
[17:43] <sdfsd64> Do the themes need to be especially made for Lxde to work?
[17:44] <wxl> if they're not openbox themes they're not going to work with openbox ;)
[17:44] <sdfsd64> :(
[17:44] <sdfsd64> http://www.linuxandlife.com/2012/02/nice-dark-gtk-themes-by-crazyt.html
[17:45] <sdfsd64> he's running archbang, which is openbox, but the themes are for Gnome?!
[17:45] <wxl> performance > aesthetics
[17:45] <jeward> wxl: Amen.
[17:45] <wxl> gtk is not gnome
[17:45] <wxl> you should be able to make those work
[17:46] <sdfsd64> lol. it says: "Depends on: Gnome 3.x"
[17:47] <wxl> gtk != gnome
[17:49] <sdfsd64> Tell that to this guy: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Black-n-White-GTK?content=149636
[17:51] <wxl> the gtk toolkit is the basis of gnome
[17:51] <wxl> but gnome is much more than gtk
[17:52] <sdfsd64> but what does gtk have to do with linux anyways? It's for making GUIs, right?
[17:52] <wxl> yep: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK%2B
[17:53] <sdfsd64> so, is LXDE, Gtk?
[17:54] <wxl> it's written in c with the gtk+ toolkit
[17:54] <sdfsd64> cool. ty
[17:54] <wxl> np
[18:32] <smile-busy> bye :)
[19:18] <JMichael|work> i am trying to use conky with lubuntu, but have an issue where conky disappears if i click on the desktop. anyone know what to do about this?
[19:18] <bioterror> what's  your window settings
[19:19] <bioterror> own_window_type normal
[19:19] <JMichael|work> own_window_type desktop
[19:19] <JMichael|work> ok
[19:20] <JMichael|work> bioterror: tyvm
[19:20] <bioterror> np
[19:33] <radon-> whats the name of the file browsing program, it's nautilus on ubuntu but whats it on lubuntu?
[19:34] <radon-> ah found it, it's pcmanfm
[21:39] <daker-cloud> hi
[21:39] <daker-cloud> any lubuntu-software center hackers here  ?
[21:42] <jmarsden|work> daker-cloud: If you are trying to report a bug in lubuntu-software-center, I'd suggest using LaunchPad for that purpose.
[23:42] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, any1 knows how i can restart the LXDE display without logout?
[23:43] <wxl> CrazyGangster: openbox --restart
[23:43] <radon-> 'sudo service lightdm restart' ?
[23:44] <CrazyGangster> wow quick reply, i will give a try