[01:28] <TransitTycoon> I added another user as admin, but he hasnt been added into the sudoers group
[01:32] <TransitTycoon> ... this is bugging me
[01:33] <TransitTycoon> I can run things as root with my alternate admin account, say for installing software
[01:33] <TransitTycoon> but when it comes to running the amdcatalyst control center admin, it gives me an error telling me, "
[01:33] <TransitTycoon> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[09:47] <MrChrisDruif> Morning lads
[09:53] <alo21> hi all
[09:54] <alo21> I grabbed the latest iso image of 12.10 amd64
[09:54] <alo21> I saw that the kernel version is still 3.2. Does it possible?
[09:55] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha alo21
[09:56] <alo21> MrChrisDruif: aloha
[09:56] <MrChrisDruif> Does it possible?
[09:56] <alo21> MrChrisDruif: I noticed that during live session i am running on kernel 1.2
[09:57] <alo21> but according to official documentation, Ubuntu should ave 3.4
[09:57] <MrChrisDruif> uname -r > 3.4.0-5-generic
[09:57] <alo21> MrChrisDruif: if I tun uname -a
[09:57] <MrChrisDruif> That's with me at least on my primary machine
[09:58] <alo21> MrChrisDruif: i got: Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:39:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:58] <MrChrisDruif> uname -a returns everything, uname -r only the kernel version
[09:58] <MrChrisDruif> Where did you grab that iso?
[09:59] <MrChrisDruif> I assume here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/quantal/alpha-1/ ?
[09:59] <alo21> MrChrisDruif: I downloaded it via zsync: zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/quantal-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[10:00] <alo21> MrChrisDruif: I think the link is ok
[10:02] <MrChrisDruif> Anyway, long story short: it should be 3.4.0-5 and it is on my machine. Maybe someone else with more knowledge about the daily builds could enlighten you more/better why it isn't with you
[10:03] <alo21> MrChrisDruif: thanks
[10:04] <MrChrisDruif> No prob
[10:04] <MrChrisDruif> Does any else have issues with booting taking forever?
[10:09] <MrChrisDruif> I've seem to have tracked down the issue and a solution, however I don't know at which package I should file a bug at.
[10:11] <MrChrisDruif> The problem consists out of the following: network-manager apparently has some interfaces file at /etc/network/interfaces and it wants to wait for both the "# The loopback network interface" and the "# The primary network interface"
[10:18] <MrChrisDruif> Note that the contents of /etc/network/interfaces might have changes since the Asker posted it
[10:31] <MrChrisDruif> So would it be possible to post a bug against that single file or should I post a bug against network-manager and mention that file specifically?
[10:33] <freedomrun> hello. how can I get somekind of debug report or some way to log for errors for unity?
[10:54] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[10:58] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha BluesKaj ^_^
[10:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy MrChrisDruif
[10:58] <MrChrisDruif> How's it going?
[10:59] <BluesKaj> not bad thanks, and you ?
[10:59] <MrChrisDruif> Pretty good, solved to LLLLOOONNNGGG boot issue
[11:00] <MrChrisDruif> It was related to network-manager...as usual
[11:00] <BluesKaj> ok good , and ?
[11:00] <BluesKaj> ok
[11:01] <BluesKaj> since I'm not on wifi , i don't bother with NM, /etc/network/interfaces does the job
[11:02] <MrChrisDruif> The /etc/network/interfaces file wanted to wait for a dynamic address for wlan0 (my primary network interface)
[11:02] <MrChrisDruif> The solution and a pretty decent reasoning behind it is here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/63456/waiting-for-network-configuration-adding-3-to-5-minutes-to-boot-time
[11:05] <MrChrisDruif> Well, it didn't matter if I connected a wire or not
[11:05] <MrChrisDruif> It is also related to upstart
[11:06] <BluesKaj> MrChrisDruif, so did you decide on a static IP in interfaces ?
[11:07] <MrChrisDruif> No, I commented out the primary interface section
[11:09] <MrChrisDruif> So I want to file a bug against that file, but I should probably be filing it against network-manager because I think it belongs to that package
[11:16] <BluesKaj> network manager writes to interfaces and resolv.conf if it's left to default settings (dynamic)
[11:19] <MrChrisDruif> Then network-manager should be to blame (it was after an update to network-manager (among a lot of other packages) that it started happening again)
[11:20] <MrChrisDruif> Only addresses are dynamic with me, but that is similar to fully dynamic
[11:20] <BluesKaj> dunno what that means
[11:20] <MrChrisDruif> It means I've got different dns-servers listed ;-)
[11:21] <BluesKaj> not on a wan
[11:21] <MrChrisDruif> internet == wan
[11:21] <BluesKaj> in hosts.allow
[11:21] <BluesKaj> ?
[11:21] <MrChrisDruif> I used network-manager to set them up
[11:23] <MrChrisDruif> You go to Network Settings > required interface > options > IPv4 settings
[11:25] <BluesKaj> MrChrisDruif, but this is strictly wifi , correct ?
[11:25] <MrChrisDruif> How do you mean? Strictly wifi? I had the same long boot with a cable
[11:26] <BluesKaj> ok
[11:29] <BluesKaj> I used a belkin wifi adapter for a while on my den pc , which now has a dead mobo, but it was aconstant struggle to keep it working with the right drivers ...finally ran an ethernet cable , which solved the problem
[11:30] <BluesKaj> a no more NM required
[11:31] <BluesKaj> and
[11:38] <MrChrisDruif> Aha, instead of eliminating issues by going around them (not needing them any more) I prefer to get it fixed properly. That way anyone can use NM without issues.
[11:38] <MrChrisDruif> It in the end that makes it easier for everyone
[11:47] <BluesKaj> my philosophy is , the fewer apps required , the better :)
[11:50] <MrChrisDruif> Are you running a gui? ;-)
[11:51] <BluesKaj> network gui?  no
[11:52] <MrChrisDruif> Are you running a gui at all? (DE)
[11:53] <BluesKaj> yes of course , not a cli purist , ...not by a long shot :)
[11:53] <BluesKaj> KDE
[11:55] <MrChrisDruif> Ghehe ^_^ just checking. Because GUI is just a bunch of "unnecessary" applications just to "please the eye", any thing you can do with a GUI can also be done with CLI [and probably faster too ;-) ]
[11:55] <MrChrisDruif> Anyhow, it's on a laptop and to manually change my network settings for each location is a no-go! ;-)
[11:57] <MrChrisDruif> And I detest that I've got to use a power-cord already..I don't want an additional wire sticking you... [you could say my philosophy is, the fewer wires required, the better ;-)]
[12:10] <BluesKaj> MrChrisDruif, yeah , laptops need quite a few more networking options ...wonder when my daughter will return my old acer
[12:10] <MrChrisDruif> Ghehe ^_^
[12:13] <BluesKaj> strange that the terminal prompt opens at ~/Documents
[12:14] <BluesKaj> I have cd to ~/ , for a normal prompt
[12:17] <MrChrisDruif> Hmm, awkward indeed
[19:34] <nerdistmonk> I just updated my kernel to 3.4 and now my firewall wont stay enabled, why is that?
[19:42] <Dacs> howdy folks
[19:43] <Dacs> where do i get support for 12.04 please
[19:43] <Dacs> this thing had nothing but bugs and crashes for me
[19:44] <trism> Dacs: 12.04 support in #ubuntu
[19:45] <matrixa1> there's a secret "do not crash" button
[19:45] <Dacs> good luck with that :)
[19:46] <matrixa1> it's so well-hidden nobody has found it yet
[19:46] <nerdistmonk> why does upgrading my kernel kill my firewall?
[19:47] <Dacs> matrixa1, is it microsoft windows
[19:47] <Dacs> coz i am thinking to go back to that
[20:18] <edgy> Hi, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop : Depends: kdemultimedia-kio-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[20:18] <edgy> is this well known?
[20:25] <edgy> can someone confirm this issue?
[20:45] <trism> edgy: yep, it looks like libkcddb has been updated but not kdemultimedia yet
[20:47] <edgy> trism: ok, thanks for the confirmation. In precise I didn't notice big problems if I kept my system updated and I remember I read mark is saying something like we will make sure it's working all the time to encourage testers
[20:47] <edgy> is this expected with quantal?
[20:48] <jtaylor> you can't make testing issue free, else it would not need testing
[21:07] <edgy> jtaylor: sure but if the policy is to upload whatever is new without testing it at all is different than if you at least test it yourself
[21:08] <jtaylor> this particular issues has nothing to do with testing
[21:08] <jtaylor> its normal archive skew
[21:08] <jtaylor> there are now ways in place to reduce this a bit with ppa copies and -proposed, but its still not worth the effort in every case
[21:24] <edgy> ok thanks for the tips