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TransitTycoonI added another user as admin, but he hasnt been added into the sudoers group01:28
TransitTycoon... this is bugging me01:32
TransitTycoonI can run things as root with my alternate admin account, say for installing software01:33
TransitTycoonbut when it comes to running the amdcatalyst control center admin, it gives me an error telling me, "01:33
TransitTycoonThe underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.01:33
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MrChrisDruifMorning lads09:47
alo21hi all09:53
alo21I grabbed the latest iso image of 12.10 amd6409:54
alo21I saw that the kernel version is still 3.2. Does it possible?09:54
MrChrisDruifAloha alo2109:55
alo21MrChrisDruif: aloha09:56
MrChrisDruifDoes it possible?09:56
alo21MrChrisDruif: I noticed that during live session i am running on kernel 1.209:56
alo21but according to official documentation, Ubuntu should ave 3.409:57
MrChrisDruifuname -r > 3.4.0-5-generic09:57
alo21MrChrisDruif: if I tun uname -a09:57
MrChrisDruifThat's with me at least on my primary machine09:57
alo21MrChrisDruif: i got: Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:39:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux09:58
MrChrisDruifuname -a returns everything, uname -r only the kernel version09:58
MrChrisDruifWhere did you grab that iso?09:58
MrChrisDruifI assume here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/quantal/alpha-1/ ?09:59
alo21MrChrisDruif: I downloaded it via zsync: zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/quantal-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync09:59
alo21MrChrisDruif: I think the link is ok10:00
MrChrisDruifAnyway, long story short: it should be 3.4.0-5 and it is on my machine. Maybe someone else with more knowledge about the daily builds could enlighten you more/better why it isn't with you10:02
alo21MrChrisDruif: thanks10:03
MrChrisDruifNo prob10:04
MrChrisDruifDoes any else have issues with booting taking forever?10:04
MrChrisDruifI've seem to have tracked down the issue and a solution, however I don't know at which package I should file a bug at.10:09
MrChrisDruifThe problem consists out of the following: network-manager apparently has some interfaces file at /etc/network/interfaces and it wants to wait for both the "# The loopback network interface" and the "# The primary network interface"10:11
MrChrisDruifNote that the contents of /etc/network/interfaces might have changes since the Asker posted it10:18
MrChrisDruifSo would it be possible to post a bug against that single file or should I post a bug against network-manager and mention that file specifically?10:31
freedomrunhello. how can I get somekind of debug report or some way to log for errors for unity?10:33
BluesKajHi all10:54
MrChrisDruifAloha BluesKaj ^_^10:58
BluesKajHowdy MrChrisDruif10:58
MrChrisDruifHow's it going?10:58
BluesKajnot bad thanks, and you ?10:59
MrChrisDruifPretty good, solved to LLLLOOONNNGGG boot issue10:59
MrChrisDruifIt was related to network-manager...as usual11:00
BluesKajok good , and ?11:00
BluesKajok11:00
BluesKajsince I'm not on wifi , i don't bother with NM, /etc/network/interfaces does the job11:01
MrChrisDruifThe /etc/network/interfaces file wanted to wait for a dynamic address for wlan0 (my primary network interface)11:02
MrChrisDruifThe solution and a pretty decent reasoning behind it is here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/63456/waiting-for-network-configuration-adding-3-to-5-minutes-to-boot-time11:02
MrChrisDruifWell, it didn't matter if I connected a wire or not11:05
MrChrisDruifIt is also related to upstart11:05
BluesKajMrChrisDruif, so did you decide on a static IP in interfaces ?11:06
MrChrisDruifNo, I commented out the primary interface section11:07
MrChrisDruifSo I want to file a bug against that file, but I should probably be filing it against network-manager because I think it belongs to that package11:09
BluesKajnetwork manager writes to interfaces and resolv.conf if it's left to default settings (dynamic)11:16
MrChrisDruifThen network-manager should be to blame (it was after an update to network-manager (among a lot of other packages) that it started happening again)11:19
MrChrisDruifOnly addresses are dynamic with me, but that is similar to fully dynamic11:20
BluesKajdunno what that means11:20
MrChrisDruifIt means I've got different dns-servers listed ;-)11:20
BluesKajnot on a wan11:21
MrChrisDruifinternet == wan11:21
BluesKajin hosts.allow11:21
BluesKaj?11:21
MrChrisDruifI used network-manager to set them up11:21
MrChrisDruifYou go to Network Settings > required interface > options > IPv4 settings11:23
BluesKajMrChrisDruif, but this is strictly wifi , correct ?11:25
MrChrisDruifHow do you mean? Strictly wifi? I had the same long boot with a cable11:25
BluesKajok11:26
BluesKajI used a belkin wifi adapter for a while on my den pc , which now has a dead mobo, but it was aconstant struggle to keep it working with the right drivers ...finally ran an ethernet cable , which solved the problem11:29
BluesKaja no more NM required11:30
BluesKajand11:31
MrChrisDruifAha, instead of eliminating issues by going around them (not needing them any more) I prefer to get it fixed properly. That way anyone can use NM without issues.11:38
MrChrisDruifIt in the end that makes it easier for everyone11:38
BluesKajmy philosophy is , the fewer apps required , the better :)11:47
MrChrisDruifAre you running a gui? ;-)11:50
BluesKajnetwork gui?  no11:51
MrChrisDruifAre you running a gui at all? (DE)11:52
BluesKajyes of course , not a cli purist , ...not by a long shot :)11:53
BluesKajKDE11:53
MrChrisDruifGhehe ^_^ just checking. Because GUI is just a bunch of "unnecessary" applications just to "please the eye", any thing you can do with a GUI can also be done with CLI [and probably faster too ;-) ]11:55
MrChrisDruifAnyhow, it's on a laptop and to manually change my network settings for each location is a no-go! ;-)11:55
MrChrisDruifAnd I detest that I've got to use a power-cord already..I don't want an additional wire sticking you... [you could say my philosophy is, the fewer wires required, the better ;-)]11:57
BluesKajMrChrisDruif, yeah , laptops need quite a few more networking options ...wonder when my daughter will return my old acer12:10
MrChrisDruifGhehe ^_^12:10
BluesKajstrange that the terminal prompt opens at ~/Documents12:13
BluesKajI have cd to ~/ , for a normal prompt12:14
MrChrisDruifHmm, awkward indeed12:17
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nerdistmonkI just updated my kernel to 3.4 and now my firewall wont stay enabled, why is that?19:34
Dacshowdy folks19:42
Dacswhere do i get support for 12.04 please19:43
Dacsthis thing had nothing but bugs and crashes for me19:43
trismDacs: 12.04 support in #ubuntu19:44
matrixa1there's a secret "do not crash" button19:45
Dacsgood luck with that :)19:45
matrixa1it's so well-hidden nobody has found it yet19:46
nerdistmonkwhy does upgrading my kernel kill my firewall?19:46
Dacsmatrixa1, is it microsoft windows19:47
Dacscoz i am thinking to go back to that19:47
edgyHi, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop : Depends: kdemultimedia-kio-plugins but it is not going to be installed20:18
edgyis this well known?20:18
edgycan someone confirm this issue?20:25
trismedgy: yep, it looks like libkcddb has been updated but not kdemultimedia yet20:45
edgytrism: ok, thanks for the confirmation. In precise I didn't notice big problems if I kept my system updated and I remember I read mark is saying something like we will make sure it's working all the time to encourage testers20:47
edgyis this expected with quantal?20:47
jtayloryou can't make testing issue free, else it would not need testing20:48
edgyjtaylor: sure but if the policy is to upload whatever is new without testing it at all is different than if you at least test it yourself21:07
jtaylorthis particular issues has nothing to do with testing21:08
jtaylorits normal archive skew21:08
jtaylorthere are now ways in place to reduce this a bit with ppa copies and -proposed, but its still not worth the effort in every case21:08
edgyok thanks for the tips21:24
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