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| * smb mornings | 07:09 | |
| ppisati | moin | 07:17 |
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| jMCg | whoowhoo! I just saw my favourite bug is being "confirmed" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/613273 | 07:33 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 613273 in udev "run-init: nuking initramfs contents: directory not empty" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 07:33 |
| jMCg | I mean, good morning. | 07:34 |
| apw | $purge_build_directory = 'successful'; | 09:03 |
| apw | $purge_session = 'successful'; | 09:03 |
| ppisati | pristine O/omap4 armel installation on a pandaes, lightdm instead of showing up shows a black screen with a blinking pointer/arrow... xdm works ok... | 10:27 |
| ppisati | either i forgot to install something (it was a server installation), or lightdm in O/omap4 was broken, or $something else... | 10:28 |
| ppisati | btw wmaker rocks on it! :) | 10:28 |
| ppisati | brb | 10:29 |
| henrix | ppisati: wmaker rocks everywhere :) | 10:32 |
| ogra_ | ppisati, how did you install the desktop parts (it should be impossible to "forget" something, dependencies should care) | 11:32 |
| ppisati | ogra_: i didn't install ubuntu-desktop | 11:54 |
| ppisati | ogra_: just some components (xorg, light, wmaker, etcetc) | 11:54 |
| ogra_ | well, that might make you end up without a greeter | 11:54 |
| ppisati | i've a greeter | 11:54 |
| ogra_ | which one ? | 11:54 |
| ppisati | gtk | 11:55 |
| ogra_ | note that there are also prototype greeters as packages | 11:55 |
| ogra_ | but gtk should be ok | 11:55 |
| tgardner | henrix, pushed lts-backport-natty | 12:45 |
| henrix | tgardner: ack, thanks | 12:45 |
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| * apw lunches | 13:05 | |
| henrix | tgardner: i've just uploaded the pkg into zinc:~henrix/for-signing | 13:14 |
| rick1121 | Hello. I'm trying to install the broadcom-sta driver module, but it doesn't come with dkms in precise. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Note that bcmwl-kernel-source provides an earlier version of this driver (and it's not what I want). https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/broadcom-sta | 13:15 |
| tgardner | henrix, rtg@zinc:~/for-signing | 13:16 |
| henrix | tgardner: cool, thanks | 13:16 |
| rick1121 | How do I go about adding a module that does not have dkms? | 13:31 |
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| pgraner | bjf, sconklin_, the PO for your hw has been acked, being ordered today | 14:35 |
| sconklin_ | \o/ | 14:36 |
| bjf | pgraner: thanks | 14:38 |
| * ogasawara back in 20 | 14:55 | |
| cking | sconklin_, was that the one with the fluke aligator clips? | 14:55 |
| cking | pgraner, i believe there was a PO outstanding for some fluke multimeter kit that was put in as a request ~7+ months ago. is it possible to get that moving? | 14:57 |
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| * ppisati -> gym | 16:16 | |
| * cking kicks the AP | 16:27 | |
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| infinity | apw: Hey, remember when we had conversation over beer that perhaps 3.x.x-ABI-flavour should be replaced with 3.x.x-BUILD-flavour? Did anything ever come of that when sober? | 16:40 |
| infinity | apw: Probably needs to happen in tandem with me fixing autoremovals, so we don't bloat machines even worse than we already do, but I have often feared that my running kernel would be replaced with something ABI-compatible-but-non-bootable, and I'd, of course, no longer have a "known-good-kernel" to reboot into. | 16:41 |
| apw | infinity, yeah, though your stuff should be keeping the old kernels x3 which we should try and make ones we have successfully booted, i wonder if we know that | 16:45 |
| apw | infinity, though nothing further was reall discussed on it no | 16:46 |
| infinity | apw: Well, sure, my stuff would, by default, have something older than your running kernel too. But imagine the fresh install case. | 16:46 |
| infinity | apw: I do a fresh install, and the next SRU kernel is ABI-compatible, but doesn't work on my hardware. I have no fallback, cause we just overwrote it. | 16:47 |
| apw | infinity, we always bump the abi for the first kernel, its is never abi compatible even if it is | 16:47 |
| apw | for this very reason, that the CD kernel clearly worked, so you always need to keep that one | 16:47 |
| infinity | apw: Is that true of the first SRU after a point-release too? | 16:47 |
| apw | infinity, hmmm, now that is a good question, i would say its probabally not in our proceedures but should be | 16:48 |
| infinity | Still, that sounds like a hackish workflow just to avoid the problem, rather than solving it. | 16:48 |
| infinity | I'd argue that overwriting kernels is probably never the right answer. Not now that dkms DTRT for modules, etc, so it's less hassle. | 16:48 |
| apw | bjf, herton ^^ ... infinity points out that the first kernel update after a point release in an LTS should _also_ be a manditory ABI bump just as the first SRU after release is ... | 16:48 |
| apw | infinity, i cannot deny that indeed | 16:49 |
| apw | ogasawara, we should put discussing this abi issue on our agenda | 16:49 |
| bjf | apw, i agree and i think that has always been the case. am i mistaken ? | 16:49 |
| bjf | apw, missed the point, i understand and agree | 16:50 |
| infinity | bjf: You may not be mistaken, it just came up in idle conversation. | 16:50 |
| apw | bjf, i don't recall seeing the ABI bump after a .1 release being indicated separatly, but if you interpret the current rule to mean that then all is good for now | 16:50 |
| bjf | infinity: was thinking of the first sru post release, you are making the point this should be after point releases as well | 16:50 |
| bjf | and i agree | 16:50 |
| apw | infinity, ok so lets assume documentation will be updated and proceedures too to do that, and i'll get this discussed when we are together | 16:50 |
| infinity | bjf: Yeah. Since what we're trying to avoid is overwriting the kernel that came from installation media. | 16:51 |
| bjf | roger roger | 16:51 |
| apw | thanks | 16:51 |
| bjf | ^ herton, henrix, sconklin | 16:51 |
| herton | ack | 16:51 |
| * ogasawara throws it on the agenda | 16:51 | |
| apw | ogasawara, thanks ... | 17:04 |
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| * tgardner -> EOD | 21:05 | |
| manjo | jjohansen, around? do you know how I can build kernel dbgsyms package ? | 21:28 |
| manjo | jjohansen, nm got it | 21:32 |
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