[02:43] <MetrosenRJ> Hey guys
[02:43] <MetrosenRJ> I have a laptop with sis chipset vieo mirage 3672, I installed ubuntu 12, 04 and downloaded the driver sis 672 and installed it, got a resolution of 1280 x 800 but I can not run videos in any player or the VLC, the time that the video is loaded it gives log out. I can not also change the theme options, someone knows a solution?
[02:44] <MetrosenRJ> ??
[02:44] <micahg> MetrosenRJ: try #ubuntu, this is a meeting channel
[02:45] <MetrosenRJ> como é um canal de reunião do ubuntu, eu achei que poderia encontrar ajuda referente aoubuntu aqui. Que tipo de assuntos são tratados nesta reuniao senão problemas do sistema operacional?
[02:45] <MetrosenRJ> as a channel meeting of ubuntu, I thought you might find help for aoubuntu here. What kind of issues are addressed in this meeting only operating system problems?
[02:47] <MetrosenRJ> micahg : if I can not get help in the ubuntu channel where I can get?
[13:59] <balloons> aloha everyone!
[14:00] <balloons> shall we begin?
[14:00] <phillw> yup:)
[14:01] <balloons> #startmeeting QA Community IRC Meeting
[14:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Jun 13 14:01:10 2012 UTC.  The chair is balloons. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[14:01] <balloons> who's all about?
[14:01] <phillw> o/
[14:01] <gema> o/
[14:02] <balloons> awesome, we have gema today :-)
[14:03] <balloons> alrighty anyway.. let's dive in
[14:03] <balloons> no previous actions again, so we can go straight to topic
[14:03] <balloons> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Updates
[14:03] <balloons> gema, I'll let you give an update of what your team is doing
[14:03] <gema> balloons: hi, thanks
[14:04] <gema> so we are working on moving iso testing into utah, which is ready to start producing results
[14:04] <gema> we are also trying to add coverage to kernel sru testing, in particular to lts backports
[14:04] <gema> and we are working on a dashboard to extract all teh results from jenkins and present them in a better way
[14:05] <gema> I think that is all from us, really, we started to have public team meetings on monday
[14:05] <gema> so if anyone wants to follow more closely what we are doing
[14:05] <gema> they are welcome to watch them either live of after the event
[14:06]  * astraljava apologizes for being late
[14:06] <gema> that's all from me
[14:07]  * astraljava also apologizes for stepping in between gema's update
[14:07] <gema> astraljava: no worries, I was just finishing, welcome :D
[14:07] <astraljava> Danke. :)
[14:07] <balloons> thanks gema.. The first of such videos is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ED30JebT4
[14:07] <balloons> I can assume the rest wil show up on that channel right?
[14:08] <gema> yes, I will be uploading them weekly
[14:08] <gema> in any case, if you guys use g+, just add me and it will appear on your stream
[14:08] <balloons> alright, any questions for gema?
[14:09] <astraljava> gema: Your real name isn't visible with nickserv. How can we find you on G+?
[14:09] <gema> gema.gomez-solano@canonical.com should do the trick
[14:09] <astraljava> Thanks!
[14:09] <gema> if you find two gema gomezs just pick the one with the ubuntu logo
[14:09] <balloons> hehe
[14:09] <gema> I will add you guys back
[14:10] <astraljava> Excellent, thanks! :)
[14:10] <balloons> Alright, so I'll give a quick update myself then from the community side
[14:13] <balloons> Since alpha 1 released after the meeting last week, I don't think we had a chance to cover it yet :-) So in short, I think the pre-testing focus week was successful, even though we announced late and only had a few days instead of the whole week. Many thanks to those of you who ran the daily in advance. At least 4 bugs were found and fixed, preventing respins which is good news
[14:14] <balloons> jibel's full report can be seen here; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/QuantalAlpha1TestReport. However I would like to point out that we hit 100% mandatory coverage on the ubuntu desktop iso's which is awesome.
[14:15] <balloons> So currently, we have a call for kernel testing the 12.10 kernel on 12.04, and we're using a new build of qatracker to do it
[14:15] <balloons> Any feedback on how the tracker is working would be most welcome.
[14:17] <balloons> As far as what's coming up, the first roundtable with the community team leads will be happening in a couple weeks. I'm excitied about all of us getting together and be able to collaborate and help each other
[14:18] <balloons> Additionally, work will be on-going to migrate the manual testcases over to the qatracker, and I'll be updating and ensuring the tests are in good shape and make sense for what's needed
[14:19] <balloons> Lastly, as you may have seen, read or heard about on this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/qa-q-friendly-integration
[14:20] <balloons> plans are being made this cycle to bring the community hardware database to life. I am doing some technical work this week with the HEXR team to plan i
[14:20] <balloons> fingers crossed, it's something we may see this cycle, which would be a nice surprise :-0
[14:21] <balloons> any questions for me?
[14:22] <balloons> k, if not then, let's move on
[14:22] <balloons> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Flavor Updates
[14:22] <balloons> phillw, would you like to kick us off with lubuntu?
[14:23] <phillw> all is suspiciously quiet with lubuntu. No major issues
[14:24] <balloons> hehe.. fair enough
[14:24] <balloons> alright, astraljava care to go next?
[14:24] <astraljava> I can, for sure.
[14:25] <astraljava> On the Xubuntu side, we updated to Xfce 4.10 for quantal. I haven't heard of any big issues, but quite frankly, I don't think that many people are testing it ATM.
[14:25] <astraljava> I haven't, which is baaad.
[14:25] <astraljava> But I will try to pick up that soonish, it's been a tough spring/early summer.
[14:26] <astraljava> On the Studio side, the change with Xfce caused our images not to build. This has just recently been addressed, so no testing on this has happened either.
[14:26] <astraljava> We're waiting on first images in the next couple of following days.
[14:26] <astraljava> ..
[14:27] <balloons> astraljava, so you'll be all set for alpha 2?
[14:28] <astraljava> We're gonna have to go through a lot for that to happen, but we're having a Xubuntu QA meeting this Sunday, so let me get back to you on that one. :)
[14:28] <astraljava> On Studio, I'm not too sure.
[14:28] <astraljava> Things sadly fell apart for Studio after the release of precise.
[14:28] <astraljava> We've been trying to get things going again, but it's been a slow progress.
[14:28] <astraljava> ..
[14:29] <astraljava> Oh, one more thing.
[14:29] <astraljava> We're having a Xubuntu Team meeting right after this one, so I'll know more in 2 hours.
[14:29] <astraljava> .. (now for realsies)
[14:30] <balloons> astraljava, alright thank you for the update
[14:30] <balloons> anyone from kubuntu about?
[14:33] <balloons> alright, how about edubuntu?
[14:35] <balloons> ok, let's move on then
[14:35] <balloons> [TOPIC] Other topics
[14:35] <phillw> o/
[14:35] <balloons> last but not least.. anything else you guys want to chat about?
[14:35] <balloons> phillw, go ahead
[14:36] <phillw> One more (did I say this earlier?): apport now tells me when I try to
[14:36] <phillw> report a bug that is already known, but fails to provide me a link to
[14:36] <phillw> the Laundpad bug report concerned... can we please make it let me click
[14:36] <phillw> through to view that bug, or at least display the bug number for me?
[14:36] <phillw> from one of our testers
[14:37] <balloons> phillw, right now, if you hit details you can see the bug number, I do know that
[14:37] <balloons> it's the "duplicateof" tag
[14:37] <balloons> however, the point is still well taken
[14:37] <balloons> is there an enhancement request opened under apport? if you file one, I'll bring it up directly
[14:37] <balloons> apport is getting changes as usual over the course of the cycle
[14:38] <balloons> I think how it handles dupes could be improved.. and your suggestion is a step towards that
[14:38] <phillw> I'll ask JM to raise a bug.
[14:38] <astraljava> o/
[14:39] <balloons> astraljava, shoot
[14:39] <balloons> phillw, yes and then just pass the number to me if you would. thanks!
[14:40] <astraljava> One particular question about the roundtable meeting, and one general one for handling the meeting requests/invitations.
[14:40] <astraljava> First, what's the correct time for the roundtable meeting?
[14:40] <astraljava> I was told the link has a different time than what's actually in the email.
[14:40]  * balloons goes to look
[14:41] <balloons> I have it at 1700 UC
[14:41] <astraljava> The second has to do with the google calendar links. As my email that I use for ubuntu-related work isn't a google one, is there a way to make it work with the calendar invitations automagically? I do have a google account, but can it make use other emails so that invitations to that other email are identified with my google account as well?
[14:42] <balloons> i said we'd be meeting at 1600 UTC looks like in the email
[14:42] <balloons> google calendar doesn't do daylight savings, and it makes scheduling this stuff an epic fail, since it shows on my personal calendar incorrectly
[14:43] <astraljava> Yeah. :)
[14:43] <balloons> so I believe I adjusted the meeting manually so it popped at the proper local time
[14:43] <balloons> this meeting is notoriously bad for that as well.. :-)
[14:43]  * astraljava recalls it as such, yes... :)
[14:43] <balloons> I never know when it is, until I simply scheduled it at the wrong time in google calendar
[14:43] <balloons> which of course, is actually the proper time in EDT, not ESt
[14:44] <balloons> anyways, I digress
[14:44] <astraljava> So, on UTC, it is...?
[14:44] <balloons> 1600 UTC
[14:44] <astraljava> Ok, thanks.
[14:44] <balloons> pencil that in however you must
[14:44] <balloons> :-)
[14:44] <astraljava> If anyone has info on my second question, it'd be greatly appreciated.
[14:44] <astraljava> Sure. :)
[14:45] <balloons> on the google calendar thing.. umm, you can import events to your google calendar
[14:45] <balloons> or try forwarding the email as is to your google account
[14:46] <astraljava> Ok, I'll try that, thanks.
[14:46] <balloons> alrighty, anything else?
[14:46] <balloons> if not, you know what that means
[14:47]  * gema runs to her next meeting..
[14:47] <balloons> :-)
[14:47] <astraljava> PAH-TEE?!
[14:47]  * balloons feels like we need a closing theme music
[14:47] <balloons> yes, the end.
[14:47] <balloons> thanks for coming everyone!
[14:47] <balloons> #endmeeting
[14:47] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Jun 13 14:47:46 2012 UTC.
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[14:48] <gema> thank you for chairing and cheering us up :D
[14:48] <astraljava> Thanks all, Nick for chairing!
[14:48] <phillw> +1
[14:48] <balloons> happy to.. if anyone ever wants to guest chair btw, don't feel like it's not an option :-)
[14:49] <astraljava> I'm available if I'm available, I could need some practice. :)
[14:50] <balloons> astraljava, send me a mail whenever you'd like. we can make it happen
[14:50] <astraljava> Sure thing.
[20:02] <kanliot> hi
[20:02] <jmarsden|work> #startmeeting Lubuntu Weekly Meeting 2012-06-13
[20:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Jun 13 20:02:57 2012 UTC.  The chair is jmarsden|work. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[20:03] <rafaellaguna> hiya
[20:03] <jmarsden|work> o/
[20:03] <phillw> o/
[20:03] <kanliot> o/
[20:04] <jmarsden|work> Is that all we've got? :)
[20:04] <rafaellaguna> we're in family :D
[20:04] <jmarsden|work> OK.
[20:05] <jmarsden|work> #topic Review ACTIONS from the last meeting
[20:05] <jmarsden|work> We had two actions last time I think...
[20:06] <jmarsden|work> phillw to write up lubuntu-qa coordinator job description and ask for volunteers on lubuntu-users list
[20:06] <jmarsden|work> phillw: did that happen?
[20:06] <phillw> i have a draft :)
[20:06] <jmarsden|work> OK, that's progress... we'll make it an action again this week...
[20:06] <jmarsden|work> #action phillw to write up lubuntu-qa coordinator job description and ask for volunteers on lubuntu-users list
[20:06] <meetingology> ACTION: phillw to write up lubuntu-qa coordinator job description and ask for volunteers on lubuntu-users list
[20:07] <jmarsden|work> The other one was:
[20:07] <jmarsden|work> jmarsden to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview with the main changes that have occured,  and any significant bugs
[20:07] <jmarsden|work> I didn't do that but phillw did, and I then made a minor edit... so that one is done, and Julien will try to kepe us updated as things progress.
[20:08] <jmarsden|work> OK... oh...
[20:08] <jmarsden|work> #action jmarsden to provide pretty wiki pages for meetings of 6/5 and 6/13
[20:08] <meetingology> ACTION: jmarsden to provide pretty wiki pages for meetings of 6/5 and 6/13
[20:08] <jmarsden|work> Since I forgot about that last week!
[20:09] <phillw> easily forgotten
[20:09] <jmarsden|work> So... only real item this week is...
[20:09] <jmarsden|work> #topic rafaellaguna - web (or whatever) team assignment
[20:09] <jmarsden|work> rafaellaguna: you have the floor
[20:09] <rafaellaguna> yep, artwork here
[20:10] <rafaellaguna> this is more a question, than other thing
[20:10] <rafaellaguna> I was speaking with some Canonical design board crew
[20:10] <rafaellaguna> ...also I'm in contact with Rick Spencer, Artwork leader for Ubuntu (and flavours). He did the guidelines
[20:11] <rafaellaguna> The question is... now we're an official flavour (a bit late to ask about this) must we follow the Ubuntu procedures? Xubuntu and Kubuntu did
[20:12] <jmarsden|work> Procedures for what?  and where are they documented?
[20:12] <rafaellaguna> I mean, the project leader assigns a Tem for a task (just like us) but once assigned this team is responsible for the final decision. Is this too SABDFL / Maritocratic?
[20:13] <rafaellaguna> You saw what happened with the web issue. I don't really know who's the decision to make one or other thing
[20:14] <jmarsden|work> He who owns a domain name and pays for bandwidth and server space gets to decide what happens on that server/site.  No procedure in the world can change that, as far as I know.
[20:14] <rafaellaguna> Rick and Iain, from  Canonical, recommended some type of vote selection and decision polithics
[20:14] <rafaellaguna> @jmarsden: right
[20:14] <meetingology> rafaellaguna: Error: "jmarsden:" is not a valid command.
[20:15] <rafaellaguna> jmarsden: right
[20:15] <rafaellaguna> But excuse me for saying this, but I see a bit disorder right now, maybe it's because we're a bit un-headed
[20:15] <jmarsden|work> So currently lubuntu.net is owned by and registered to Mario, and he arranged for bandwidth and server space for it.  So what happens on it is his baby, unless he chooses to grant priviledges on it to others.
[20:16] <rafaellaguna> So, the artwork decision should be responsability only for Artwork Team, after mailing lists voting?
[20:17] <rafaellaguna> And, in this case, for Mario, of course
[20:18] <rafaellaguna> Easier: who's my (and frankbooth) boss?
[20:19] <jmarsden|work> For artwork that ends up within the Lubuntu software project itself, yes, I would say we should let the Artwork team decide, subject to appropriate following of whatever rules Ubuntu as a whole imposes for artwork.
[20:20] <rafaellaguna> ok
[20:20] <jmarsden|work> Obviously all artwork that ends up in the project needs to be packaged and uploaded by someone with upload rights, which at the moment in practice means Julien, but I'd be surprised if he "betoed" artwork choices the artwork team makes.
[20:21] <jmarsden|work> *vetoed
[20:21] <rafaellaguna> no, usually is the "normal" people who wants to make veto :)
[20:21] <jmarsden|work> They can try all they like, it's just noise :)
[20:22] <rafaellaguna> But in the mailing lists, I should listen to them
[20:22] <jmarsden|work> Of course, it's wise to listen to others, we are a community.
[20:22] <rafaellaguna> even with those "bad words" and stupid suggestions
[20:23] <rafaellaguna> As far as we are a community we should listen to them, but you confirmed that the Team rules
[20:23] <jmarsden|work> But you are not under an obligation to accept or follow specific directions from random people on the mailing list.  In the end artwork choices are made by the artwork team, yes.  That makes sense to me.
[20:23] <jmarsden|work> Anyone else have a different viewpoint on this?
[20:24] <rafaellaguna> clear o_O
[20:24] <jmarsden|work> OK, good.
[20:24] <jmarsden|work> #topic Any Other Business
[20:26] <kanliot> no business
[20:26] <rafaellaguna> :D
[20:28] <rafaellaguna> third time, beer!
[20:30] <jmarsden|work> OK... sorry, i was in a conversation here locally...
[20:30] <jmarsden|work> #endmeeting
[20:30] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Jun 13 20:30:14 2012 UTC.
[20:30] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-13-20.02.moin.txt
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[20:30] <jmarsden|work> Thanks everyone!
[20:30] <rafaellaguna> cheers!