| * tumbleweed waves from a little cove on the Pakleni Islets | 04:42 | |
| === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg | ||
| sflr | morning y'all | 06:41 |
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| charlvn | good morning all | 06:52 |
| === sflr is now known as sflr_away | ||
| Kilos | yo superfly and others | 09:29 |
| Kilos | we just got power for the fdirst time today | 09:29 |
| Kilos | hi deegee__ with a tail | 09:30 |
| deegee__ | Kilos: hehe too many disconnects today | 09:31 |
| === deegee__ is now known as drussell | ||
| * drussell has to fly, have a good day all | 09:31 | |
| Kilos | lo dLimit Banlam charlvn nuvolari inetpro | 09:31 |
| Kilos | drubin, all well? | 09:32 |
| Kilos | yo sflr | 09:33 |
| charlvn | hi Kilos | 09:33 |
| sflr | hey Kilos, charlvn :) | 09:33 |
| charlvn | hi sflr | 09:34 |
| * Kilos wonders if zeref got his vlc to show vids | 09:34 | |
| inetpro | good mornings | 09:36 |
| Kilos | hi there tweeter | 09:36 |
| Kilos | kinda cold for a bike hey? | 09:36 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: what are you doing on the Pakleni Islets? | 09:37 |
| Kilos | tumbling of course | 09:37 |
| Kilos | oh for the tumbling tumbleweed | 09:38 |
| Kilos | there was a song about that long long ago | 09:38 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 09:40 |
| Kilos | you gonna talk at that workshop superfly ? | 09:41 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hah, tumbleweed tumbling in the wind, could be a nice title for a song | 09:41 |
| Kilos | inetpro, there is a song like that | 09:41 |
| superfly | Kilos: No, I'm not good at presentations | 09:42 |
| Kilos | aw superfly | 09:42 |
| Kilos | maybe you can team up with sflr and make him do the talking | 09:42 |
| Kilos | hi Superhuman | 09:43 |
| Superhuman | hey Kilos | 09:44 |
| Superhuman | How goes? | 09:44 |
| Kilos | you well Superhuman ? | 09:44 |
| Kilos | all fine here ty | 09:44 |
| Superhuman | yeah, still going stong | 09:44 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:44 |
| Superhuman | *strong | 09:44 |
| Kilos | inetpro, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbPPnCb3XJE | 09:46 |
| Kilos | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumbling_Tumbleweeds | 09:47 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I believe you :-) | 09:48 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:48 |
| sflr | which presentation Kilos? on FoSS? | 09:50 |
| Kilos | yes sflr its in our mailing list | 09:50 |
| sflr | yeah, i saw that. it depends if its technical or marketing talk | 09:51 |
| Kilos | answer his mail and ask for more info on what he wants | 09:52 |
| sflr | haha, right. will do that. | 09:52 |
| sflr | anyone here with Edge Side Includes (ESI) experience? | 09:55 |
| charlvn | what? edge side includes? | 09:57 |
| charlvn | reading on the wikipedia... | 09:58 |
| charlvn | interesting, the namespacing is vague in the w3c spec | 10:02 |
| * inetpro also acting surprised at hearing a new buzzword | 10:02 | |
| charlvn | it does make a lot of sense for something like this to exist | 10:03 |
| inetpro | very interesting indeed | 10:04 |
| charlvn | i'm concerned about the parsing though | 10:04 |
| charlvn | and the w3c document is vague | 10:05 |
| charlvn | http://www.w3.org/TR/esi-lang | 10:05 |
| charlvn | it sounds extremely inefficient to send the entire document through an xml parser just to replace some content | 10:05 |
| charlvn | besides, most (x)html on the web does not conform to xml requirements | 10:06 |
| charlvn | i suspect it is parsed once and then cached in some way | 10:07 |
| sflr | yeah, currently you can cache static content (images, scripts, etc) on Akamai Edge servers. The idea of ESI is to be able to cache some dynamic content as well | 10:23 |
| sflr | but I was thinking what real advantage ESI has compared to Ajax, where the page gets assembled on the client side. | 10:24 |
| Kilos | inetpro, i had to remind you about something, well im reminding you | 10:45 |
| Kilos | can you member what it was? | 10:46 |
| inetpro | Kilos: haha | 10:46 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:46 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you can do me the honors and talk to the people | 10:46 |
| inetpro | :-) | 10:47 |
| Kilos | oh here? | 10:47 |
| inetpro | yep | 10:47 |
| Kilos | Maaz, announce monthly meeting here on monday night all of you. BE THERE | 10:48 |
| Maaz | Hear ye, hear ye! monthly meeting here on monday night all of you. BE THERE | 10:48 |
| Kilos | um here | 10:48 |
| * inetpro lol | 10:48 | |
| inetpro | thanks Kilos | 10:49 |
| Kilos | we can also add an attempt to revive the LPI classes | 10:49 |
| sflr | maybe remove June 2 meeting from the title, then Monday meeting will be in front :) | 10:49 |
| Kilos | yw inetpro | 10:49 |
| inetpro | obviously all of you are welcome to add more items to the agenda at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/436/detail/ | 10:49 |
| sflr | whats LPI classes? | 10:49 |
| Kilos | linux professional institute methinks | 10:50 |
| Kilos | Maaz, lpi manual | 10:50 |
| Maaz | http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual | 10:50 |
| sflr | ok. i thought Launch Pad Intro. haha | 10:50 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:51 |
| Kilos | we started but our tutor got kinda busy | 10:51 |
| sflr | Looks good. I am interested. | 10:51 |
| inetpro | drubin, tumbleweed, superfly: can you please edit the topic or give me op rights so we can remove the Rosebank event | 10:51 |
| Kilos | there is a place to register and you will be recognised world wide once you pass the exam | 10:52 |
| Kilos | also they give study stuff | 10:52 |
| Kilos | be patient i will try find it | 10:52 |
| inetpro | a short link for our agenda is: http://bit.ly/LYp5jY | 10:52 |
| Kilos | inetpro, will it change every month or can that be a permanent link? | 10:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: unfortunately it will change every month | 10:54 |
| Kilos | aw | 10:54 |
| inetpro | Kilos: at least it will help to keep us active in here | 10:55 |
| Kilos | yeah, lets hope. too many guys are becoming lurkers | 10:56 |
| Kilos | aw goosie it went to wrong place in agenda | 11:01 |
| Kilos | should be 8. didnt know one had to tell it. stupid thing | 11:01 |
| sflr | LPI Certification Level 1 manual: http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/sites/default/files/LPIManual_v_09.pdf | 11:05 |
| Kilos | im looking tween other things sflr . there is a place to register too | 11:06 |
| sflr | what did you add Kilos? I can't see 8 in Agenda | 11:06 |
| Kilos | it went in on 2 | 11:06 |
| Kilos | grrr | 11:06 |
| Kilos | we even have a channel for the classes | 11:07 |
| Kilos | #linux_studies | 11:07 |
| Kilos | ooo | 11:07 |
| sflr | oh i see. thanks. I join | 11:07 |
| Kilos | #linux-studies | 11:07 |
| sflr | A good report on how a certification has an impact on salary: http://www.lpi.org/blog/global-knowledge-2012-it-skills-and-salary-report | 11:14 |
| Kilos | inetpro, can you edit agenda and move item 2 to end off queue | 11:15 |
| sflr | I try.lol | 11:16 |
| Kilos | good | 11:17 |
| inetpro | Kilos: done... moved to number 6 | 11:17 |
| sflr | moved down to 6 | 11:17 |
| sflr | see if its ok | 11:17 |
| Kilos | yay ty | 11:17 |
| sflr | did u move it? lol. i thought was me. haha | 11:17 |
| Kilos | not me | 11:17 |
| Kilos | one of the lurkers | 11:18 |
| inetpro | hmm.... | 11:18 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:18 |
| inetpro | guess we both did it | 11:18 |
| sflr | its cool. I updated it, but then got overwritten. | 11:18 |
| inetpro | :-) | 11:18 |
| sflr | :) no prob | 11:18 |
| sflr | I changed the title to capital. Revival | 11:18 |
| Kilos | well done | 11:19 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you see, he can also do it and you could as well :-) | 11:19 |
| Kilos | i dont see an edit button there inetpro , but refreshing all the time chews data | 11:19 |
| inetpro | I just put the last item as order number 99 to keep it last | 11:19 |
| sflr | yes Kilos. you just need to click on the title of the agenda item, then you get into the edit screen | 11:20 |
| Kilos | oh ty will try member that next time | 11:20 |
| Kilos | i thought of a few more things last night just before dozing off but they gone now | 11:21 |
| sflr | haha lol | 11:21 |
| sflr | I guess the dream was better :) | 11:21 |
| Kilos | hehe too cold to dream | 11:22 |
| Kilos | ha got it i think sflr | 11:22 |
| Kilos | http://linux-studies.za.net/index.php?title=Special:RequestAccount&action=confirmemail&wpEmailToken=c5b8354f5ee228b778eb62ee95eedf37 | 11:23 |
| sflr | that's true, too cold | 11:23 |
| Kilos | aw wrong one methinks | 11:23 |
| sflr | I think that is for your account registration | 11:23 |
| Kilos | http://www.lpi.org/news/lpi-announces-linux-essentials-program | 11:24 |
| Kilos | http://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications/introductory-programs/linux-essentials | 11:24 |
| Kilos | one of them must be it | 11:24 |
| Kilos | you register and they mail you a number | 11:24 |
| zeref | huuurrrrmmm | 11:25 |
| sflr | Thanks! I will sign up later. I need to prepare for a meeting now with a presentation. | 11:26 |
| Kilos | lo zeref fixed vlc yet? | 11:27 |
| zeref | mope | 11:28 |
| Kilos | eish | 11:28 |
| zeref | using xine now | 11:28 |
| Kilos | purge vlc and look in home for any conf files and delete them too then install again | 11:29 |
| Kilos | nothing in home i see | 11:30 |
| === sflr is now known as sflr_away | ||
| Kilos | bbl guys be good | 11:41 |
| Kerbero | is daar dalk 'n henry botha op hierdie channel? | 11:48 |
| Kilos | wow something is sick, what a struggle to get on here | 12:57 |
| === inetpro is now known as inetpro_ | ||
| === inetpro_ is now known as inetpro | ||
| === inetpro is now known as inetpro__ | ||
| === inetpro__ is now known as hibana | ||
| === hibana is now known as hibana_ | ||
| === hibana_ is now known as araneina | ||
| === araneina is now known as inetghost | ||
| inetghost | sorry for the spam guys | 13:16 |
| === inetghost is now known as inetpro | ||
| Kilos | hi there ghost | 13:16 |
| Kilos | booo to you too | 13:16 |
| * inetpro was just cycling through my nicks to make sure I still keep ownership | 13:17 | |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 13:17 |
| inetpro | guess I should have done it while not connected to a channel | 13:17 |
| Kilos | not a prob old man , we all know you arent a spammer | 13:18 |
| Kilos | by choice anyway | 13:18 |
| Kilos | i blew your agenda again because i dont read properly | 13:20 |
| Kilos | eish | 13:35 |
| Kilos | fixed i hope | 13:37 |
| === superfly is now known as who_da_fly | ||
| === who_da_fly is now known as superfly | ||
| charlvn | inetpro: i see your troll and i hereby award with you: http://i.imgur.com/T80zN.png | 13:51 |
| inetpro | E I S H !! | 13:53 |
| sflr | yeah, there will be a database cleanup over the weekend | 14:03 |
| sflr | KaBoom! All nicks unused for 150 days or more will be dropped from the database. | 14:03 |
| bakuman | O_o | 14:09 |
| charlvn | nice that is a good thing | 14:13 |
| charlvn | but why have so many nicks.... feels a bit like domain squatting | 14:13 |
| sflr | you can have different and group them together. mostly used when you get disconnected and reconnected, then you can use a _ nick. I also have an _away nick | 14:15 |
| sflr | its meant to be used within reason, not to bring split personalities online :) | 14:16 |
| charlvn | sflr: http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html :) | 14:17 |
| sflr | haha, yeah it used to be bad! | 14:25 |
| charlvn | imho still is :) | 14:26 |
| sflr | I prefer using _away, at least people know not to expect a reply any time soon | 14:26 |
| sflr | haha, hope you not referring to inetpro's list above ;) | 14:27 |
| inetpro | heh! | 14:28 |
| charlvn | no i meant using _away in nicks etc | 14:29 |
| sflr | okay. guess it is a habit then :) | 14:30 |
| Banlam | one of those days when there's just not enough time | 14:58 |
| inetpro | Banlam: welcome to my everyday world | 15:52 |
| Banlam | that makes me sad | 15:52 |
| sflr | ahoy locos! | 16:32 |
| charlvn | yeah since when this not having enough time anything new in ict | 16:45 |
| magespawn | Evening all | 17:02 |
| charlvn | hi magespawn | 17:09 |
| magespawn | Hey charlvn | 17:12 |
| inetpro | charlvn: hmm... I thought you had lotsa time | 17:12 |
| sflr | hi magespawn | 17:14 |
| charlvn | inetpro: i always think that, until it gets sucked away with random things.. | 17:17 |
| magespawn | Hi sflr | 17:22 |
| Kilos | evening all | 17:22 |
| Kilos | come on summer come on | 17:22 |
| magespawn | Hey Kilos | 17:23 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn , GC sick? | 17:23 |
| Kilos | hi there cocooncrash all good there? | 17:24 |
| Kilos | hi drubin you ok? | 17:24 |
| magespawn | Was doing some update and sql installs and did not put the bot back up | 17:24 |
| Kilos | oh my | 17:24 |
| Kilos | did you forget or is it apartheid | 17:25 |
| Kilos | yo superfly | 17:25 |
| magespawn | Nah just forgot, need to automate the bot so it starts on boot | 17:25 |
| magespawn | Brb | 17:26 |
| Kilos | lol that will be a good plan | 17:26 |
| Kilos | yo sakhi | 17:29 |
| Kilos | Squirm[A], why so quiet? | 17:29 |
| Kilos | yo smile | 17:37 |
| smile | hi Kilos | 17:38 |
| === smile is now known as smile-busy | ||
| Kilos | inetpro, ping | 17:38 |
| magespawn | Back | 17:42 |
| Kilos | wb | 17:46 |
| Kilos | no one saying anything tonight | 17:47 |
| sflr | hey Kilos! :) I'm here, just working o_O | 17:49 |
| Kilos | lol enjoy sflr | 17:49 |
| sflr | Kilos, did you read Michael's reply regarding the workshop? | 17:52 |
| Kilos | yeah | 17:52 |
| sflr | need to present to academic staff and post grads | 17:52 |
| Kilos | is that your level | 17:52 |
| sflr | not my cup of coffee. i like hacking things together. | 17:53 |
| Kilos | you can say anything as long as you promote ubuntu as well | 17:53 |
| sflr | they like theory and more theory | 17:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: pong | 17:53 |
| smile-busy | Kilos: ping :p | 17:53 |
| Kilos | there are gonna be students too | 17:53 |
| Kilos | inetpro, i need some clarification please | 17:54 |
| inetpro | Kilos: clarification? | 17:54 |
| Kilos | kinda mixed up with what install fests are etc | 17:54 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ahh, we haven't had that in many years | 17:54 |
| Kilos | release parties too | 17:55 |
| sflr | yes, I would rather do some UH at the university | 17:55 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no, release parties we have had plenty | 17:55 |
| Kilos | wasnt the plan to have release parties when cds arrived | 17:55 |
| inetpro | Kilos: the cds are always late | 17:56 |
| Kilos | sflr, you must get together with maia when she does her next UH | 17:56 |
| Kilos | yes inetpro but the aim is to advertise and spread ubuntu isnt it? | 17:57 |
| Kilos | so what is the party waits for cds to arrive | 17:57 |
| Kilos | sflr, do you know all the sudo apt-get update and upgrade thigs | 17:59 |
| Kilos | things | 17:59 |
| sflr | I do use it Kilos | 18:00 |
| inetpro | Kilos: things change | 18:01 |
| Kilos | good | 18:01 |
| sflr | ok, I will chat to her then | 18:01 |
| inetpro | these days most peeps just download the released version themselves | 18:01 |
| sflr | party? I like parties ;) | 18:01 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:01 |
| Kilos | you not so old hey, you like inetpro 's age | 18:01 |
| sflr | Yes, I also prefer downloading | 18:02 |
| sflr | young in spirit. haha | 18:02 |
| sflr | here is an ubuntu/linux question: is it possible to do Adobe Flash development on Ubuntu? I need to recompile some source code into swf | 18:02 |
| Kilos | ask maaz | 18:03 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google ubuntu flash developement on ubuntu | 18:03 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "actionscript - Flash development under Ubuntu - Programmers" http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/85302/flash-development-under-ubuntu :: "Flash development - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1285056 :: "RestrictedFormats/Flash - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash :: "Linux Today - Flash development in Ubuntu 10.04 with Eclipse and ..." http://ww | 18:03 |
| Kilos | sflr, ^^ | 18:04 |
| sflr | haha, thanks. Kilos + Maaz = Genius!! | 18:04 |
| Kilos | hehe yw | 18:04 |
| Kilos | one only uses adobe if you got wine i think | 18:05 |
| magespawn | Can use adobe air I think | 18:05 |
| magespawn | Brb have to switch | 18:07 |
| sflr | Found something useful Open@AdobeProjects http://sourceforge.net/adobe/wiki/Projects/ | 18:10 |
| sflr | FlexSDK | 18:10 |
| inetpro | sflr: forget about flash | 18:11 |
| inetpro | just do it in HTML5 | 18:11 |
| magespawn | howdy back again | 18:12 |
| inetpro | sflr: have you seen this? http://browserquest.mozilla.org/ | 18:13 |
| inetpro | a massively multiplayer adventure game using just HTML5 | 18:14 |
| inetpro | afaiaa | 18:14 |
| inetpro | ahh... "all done in glorious HTML5 and JavaScript" | 18:14 |
| inetpro | see also: http://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/03/browserquest/ | 18:15 |
| Kilos | inetpro, you can tweet corrie and try convince him to come to the meeting. he cant be so busy he cant visit once in 6 months | 18:16 |
| inetpro | Kilos: send him an email | 18:17 |
| Kilos | haha he always says he is so busy | 18:17 |
| Kilos | maybe he should take my mail addy | 18:17 |
| Kilos | i will mail him anyway | 18:17 |
| Kilos | aw ive lost his addy | 18:18 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I think it's corrie206@gmail.com | 18:20 |
| Kilos | ty | 18:20 |
| sflr | thanks inetpro! its good stuff, I just need to recompile Flash source into swf :) | 18:20 |
| * inetpro hates flash with a passion | 18:20 | |
| sflr | tell me about it. lol. somebody was so brilliant to create a facebook app in Flash! haha #fail | 18:22 |
| sflr | Kilos are you on Twitter? | 18:22 |
| Kilos | sflr, on and off. data restricts me somewhat | 18:23 |
| Kilos | sharpeys | 18:23 |
| Kilos | corrie206 mail4ed | 18:23 |
| Kilos | mailed as well | 18:24 |
| sflr | that's right. we were talking last night with inetpro to get ubuntu-za a Twitter account, and you to manage it. He mentioned you might need a data sponsorship with the title | 18:24 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha he is so white at times | 18:25 |
| sflr | I find Twitter good channel to get the word out quick | 18:26 |
| Kilos | yeah twitter and facebook | 18:27 |
| Kilos | everything is there nowadays | 18:27 |
| sflr | yeah, i got bored of FB few years ago already. haha | 18:27 |
| Kilos | but fb is a major data hog | 18:27 |
| Kilos | sflr, do you use other im goodies too | 18:28 |
| sflr | Tweetdeck for Chrome is pretty slick. HTML5 | 18:28 |
| Kilos | i mean do you chat on them | 18:29 |
| sflr | I use Gtalk, Skype, Google Hangouts. mostly for work | 18:29 |
| Kilos | i have twitter in my pidgin but only look there now and again | 18:29 |
| Kilos | do you use pidgin? | 18:30 |
| sflr | what's your twitter handle? | 18:30 |
| Kilos | can do all of them in one place | 18:30 |
| Kilos | sharpeys | 18:30 |
| sflr | no, i dont use pidgin. used it before though. | 18:30 |
| sflr | found you :) | 18:31 |
| sflr | I think mxit is also on pidgin | 18:31 |
| Kilos | i use mxit and xmpp on pidgin for family | 18:32 |
| smile-busy | bye :) | 18:32 |
| Kilos | toods smile | 18:32 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 18:32 |
| sflr | cool! havent used mxit in long time | 18:33 |
| smile-busy | Kilos: daag! :) | 18:33 |
| smile-busy | knuffel :) | 18:33 |
| smile-busy | = hug ;) | 18:33 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:34 |
| Kilos | funny guy | 18:34 |
| Kilos | wb sflr | 18:34 |
| sflr_ | timeout. lol | 18:35 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:35 |
| Kilos | aw i lost twitter on my pidgin | 18:36 |
| * Kilos cries | 18:36 | |
| sflr_ | what do you mean you lost it?! | 18:36 |
| === sflr_ is now known as sflr | ||
| Kilos | my drive got some bad sectors in the mbr last week and i had to start from scratch | 18:37 |
| sflr | oh krap | 18:38 |
| charlvn | happens | 18:38 |
| Kilos | been trying to find a way to move the mbr but i dont think you can | 18:38 |
| charlvn | very irritating | 18:38 |
| charlvn | move the mbr? | 18:39 |
| charlvn | in principle you should be able to reinstall the grub boot loader into the mbr | 18:39 |
| charlvn | i have tried to do it once or twice but that was on an efi boot loader system and i couldn't get it to work | 18:39 |
| charlvn | but it's probably because i didn't spend enough time figuring it out | 18:40 |
| Kilos | the mbr is the first 512k on the drive, i was hoping i could move it a bit | 18:40 |
| charlvn | yeah i know but i don't think you can really "move" it | 18:40 |
| Kilos | to like from 513k to 1024k | 18:40 |
| charlvn | actually i'm not sure... if you have bad sectors, in principle it should be possible, but i never tried it | 18:41 |
| charlvn | that's a tricky one | 18:41 |
| Kilos | yeah moving the boot sector isnt a prob , but the mbr is serious | 18:41 |
| charlvn | hmmm | 18:42 |
| charlvn | yeah if you have other sectors that get damaged but if it's the master boot record it could get tricky | 18:44 |
| Kilos | yeah | 18:45 |
| charlvn | have any of you people played with the raspberry pi | 18:49 |
| charlvn | i haven't either but i have been following the development | 18:49 |
| charlvn | i am quite keen on this project ... | 18:49 |
| charlvn | i am busy watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaIjCLVmqXU - around 24:20 they have an interview with the founder | 18:51 |
| inetpro | charlvn: I've been ignoring the buzz, what's it about? | 18:53 |
| charlvn | inetpro: it's a small arm-based linux "computer" that you can use a bit like a fancy microcontroller | 18:54 |
| inetpro | ahh | 18:54 |
| charlvn | costs $25 - who could argue | 18:54 |
| charlvn | about 20 euro or 210 zar | 18:55 |
| charlvn | they are working on all kinds of expansions etc | 18:56 |
| charlvn | could be handy for physical security monitoring or access control, robotics etc, besides just being a fancy toy :) | 18:56 |
| inetpro | charlvn: have you seen the calxeda system? | 18:58 |
| inetpro | YIKES! | 18:58 |
| charlvn | it's an arm-based server right? | 18:58 |
| inetpro | my 8ta connection is absolutely terrible this evening | 18:58 |
| charlvn | heard about it but haven't been hands-on or anything | 18:59 |
| inetpro | charlvn: arm based | 18:59 |
| inetpro | yes | 18:59 |
| charlvn | i am quite positive about arm-based microprocessors | 18:59 |
| charlvn | anything to challenge the x86 intel all-your-base | 19:00 |
| charlvn | and it's efficient too | 19:00 |
| inetpro | yep, looks like a new market with lots of potential indeed | 19:06 |
| sflr | looks interesting. are you planning to buy one charlvn? | 19:06 |
| sflr_ | connection is krap | 19:08 |
| Kilos | the whole internet is sick today | 19:08 |
| charlvn | sflr_: i should definitely buy one although i don't really know what i really want to do with it yet | 19:09 |
| inetpro | ahh, so it's not just me? | 19:09 |
| Kilos | boys and their toys | 19:09 |
| sflr_ | the site says they built it for the kids to learn programming :) | 19:09 |
| charlvn | yeah that's what the founder said during the interview i linked to above | 19:11 |
| charlvn | although i think it can be just handy for a lot of things | 19:11 |
| sflr_ | but if you look at the specs is really hardcore. blueray quality graphics, ARM1176JZFS processor, usb, lan. all on a credit card sized board | 19:11 |
| sflr_ | Processor technical doc: http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.ddi0301h/DDI0301H_arm1176jzfs_r0p7_trm.pdf | 19:12 |
| charlvn | yeah it | 19:12 |
| charlvn | it's not half bad | 19:12 |
| charlvn | education is good but i am looking for real world uses for it | 19:13 |
| sflr_ | 245 sec ping. haha. mutter! is there a freenode SA server? | 19:13 |
| charlvn | nope unfortunately not | 19:14 |
| Kilos | sflr_, inetpro do you's public timeline twitter | 19:14 |
| sflr_ | yes, i agree charlvn. I played with Arduino for home automation, but this look much better :) | 19:14 |
| charlvn | yup and cheap | 19:14 |
| inetpro | Kilos: huh? | 19:14 |
| charlvn | more power for less i mean | 19:14 |
| Kilos | gtwitter has a choice of public timeline or friends | 19:15 |
| sflr_ | yes, the small size is big advantage | 19:15 |
| Kilos | if you got good eyes | 19:15 |
| sflr_ | almost scarry to think about it | 19:16 |
| sflr_ | Kilos, not sure. I use Tweetdeck, Android app and Twitter.com | 19:16 |
| Kilos | do you see everybodys tweets? | 19:17 |
| Kilos | or friends and followers only | 19:17 |
| sflr_ | Tweetdeck is good to manage multiple accounts, lists | 19:17 |
| sflr_ | I see tweets of who I follow | 19:17 |
| Kilos | sec i check if maverick has tweetdeck | 19:17 |
| charlvn | yeah the public timeline won't be too interesting, it's just a flood | 19:18 |
| Kilos | na | 19:18 |
| sflr_ | there is a Tweetdeck for Chrome https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hbdpomandigafcibbmofojjchbcdagbl | 19:19 |
| sflr_ | if you use Chrome. lol | 19:19 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:19 |
| Kilos | maybe gtwitter is more thrifty | 19:20 |
| Kilos | with luck it will use tcp not a browser | 19:20 |
| charlvn | i think it just uses http requests in the background in any case | 19:21 |
| charlvn | the twitter api is all http afaik | 19:21 |
| sflr_ | yes, that's correct | 19:21 |
| charlvn | although, if it uses JSON, it's much more compact on data than say XML or especially normal HTML | 19:21 |
| sflr_ | what does it take to get an SA freenode server? | 19:22 |
| Kilos | the thing is if you go publick timeline dont you then see everybodys tweets | 19:22 |
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| Kilos | sflr_, speak to Symmetria | 19:22 |
| inetpro | cool | 19:22 |
| inetpro | Kilos: topic is changed | 19:22 |
| charlvn | sflr_: there is also the twitter streaming api, i have used it a couple of times, but i don't know how many clients make use of it | 19:22 |
| sflr_ | I never came across any twitter timeline showing everybody's tweets. that is like thousands per second | 19:23 |
| Kilos | i see inetpro . what did you change | 19:23 |
| charlvn | sflr_: in principle it is supposed to be super efficient but i think most clients still use polling every x seconds | 19:23 |
| Kilos | yeah it has a setting where you can change it, default is 5mins | 19:23 |
| * inetpro called in for help with op rights from the highvoltage guru | 19:23 | |
| charlvn | inetpro: i think you can just use chanserv to set the topic of the channel directly, it's easier | 19:23 |
| sflr_ | i understand. most people still think of polling solution to dial the server | 19:24 |
| sflr_ | thanks inetpro for title update. | 19:24 |
| charlvn | inetpro: sorry cancel that, apparenty not on freenode | 19:24 |
| inetpro | charlvn: ahh, thanks | 19:25 |
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| Kilos | oh i see all the sites are there too | 19:25 |
| inetpro | hmm... I'll try | 19:25 |
| Kilos | well done inetpro | 19:25 |
| sflr | cut off at the end of title? -> Pastebin: paste.ubuntu.c | 19:26 |
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| inetpro | charlvn: it works | 19:26 |
| inetpro | sflr: fixed | 19:27 |
| sflr | kool. now it just needs some flashing neon light. haha | 19:27 |
| charlvn | inetpro: oh wait sorry, i was looking under the wrong place, it's just /msg chanserv topic, not /msg chanserv set topic | 19:27 |
| charlvn | inetpro: was looking under the wrong place, knew it was possible somehow lol | 19:28 |
| inetpro | that topic is just so terribly long | 19:29 |
| sflr | haha. thinking in code #getsetters | 19:30 |
| charlvn | re hosting a freenode server: https://www.freenode.net/hosting_ircd.shtml | 19:30 |
| charlvn | not unreasonable requirements imho | 19:30 |
| inetpro | charlvn: cool | 19:30 |
| inetpro | charlvn: how about setting up one on our local shores? | 19:31 |
| inetpro | we used to beg Symmetria to setup a server for us when he was still at Tenet, but he never got around to do it | 19:32 |
| sflr | it would be a big advantage for us, as I suspect most ubuntu-za citizens are from SA | 19:32 |
| charlvn | yeah that would make sense | 19:32 |
| charlvn | freenode is quite a major network | 19:32 |
| charlvn | if i remember correctly, i spoke to Symmetria about this issue a long time ago | 19:33 |
| sflr | it says 350Gig traffic per month, but I dont think anybody from northern hemisphere wants to connect to an SA server | 19:33 |
| charlvn | and if i recall correctly, the reason they didn't want to do it at tenet is because freenode requires ssh access to the server | 19:33 |
| charlvn | that is quite a strange requirement actually for joining an irc server to a network | 19:33 |
| charlvn | most other networks don't have that requirement - irc.ac.za subsequently got linked to efnet instead | 19:33 |
| charlvn | they are more relaxed on this issue i think | 19:33 |
| sflr | yes, where would you put it? outside the datacenter :) | 19:33 |
| sflr | I will find out, but who would do this setup? somebody from freenode? | 19:34 |
| charlvn | my virtual server at hetzner has a 1TB per month soft cap and then i get shaped down to 10mbps (instead of 100mbps) | 19:35 |
| charlvn | but that's hosted in germany, not .za | 19:35 |
| sflr | Probably I can get a server sponsored locally, but I wont be able to set it up | 19:35 |
| charlvn | sflr: it's a good question, but it doesn't look too tough to do it from a software perspective | 19:35 |
| charlvn | i'm happy to help with this in any case, just saying | 19:35 |
| inetpro | sflr: that sounds like a great offer | 19:36 |
| sflr | yeah, that would be great!. It would be in Cape Town, if there are no objections. haha | 19:36 |
| * inetpro is always willing to help as time allows | 19:37 | |
| charlvn | same here | 19:37 |
| inetpro | charlvn: so what do we need, ubuntu server or *bsd? | 19:38 |
| sflr | charlvn, do you think a Virtual server will do it? | 19:38 |
| charlvn | inetpro: according to the site, anything running the linux 2.6 kernel is fine, so i'm sure ubuntu would do the trick just fine | 19:39 |
| inetpro | cool | 19:39 |
| sflr | the site says: FreeBSD 8+ or Linux 2.6 | 19:39 |
| charlvn | sflr: they seem to have a preference for a dedicated server but that's old-school, i think a virtual server with enough resources would be the way to go | 19:39 |
| charlvn | yeah i guess it doesn't really matter, linux or bsd, for this instance | 19:39 |
| inetpro | I think a VM is worth a try | 19:40 |
| Kilos | inetpro, i sjoed you | 19:40 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ? | 19:40 |
| Kilos | hehe tweeted you sjoe with your 200 followers man | 19:40 |
| sflr | Kilos, you must promote yourself on twitter from an egg ;) | 19:40 |
| * inetpro lol | 19:41 | |
| Kilos | sflr, huh? | 19:41 |
| sflr | Ok, I will try for a VM based on the specs | 19:41 |
| charlvn | lol this conversation is turning weird | 19:41 |
| sflr | Kilos, I am talking about your Twitter avatar | 19:41 |
| charlvn | sflr: sounds good | 19:41 |
| Kilos | hee hee | 19:41 |
| charlvn | sorry i need to go as well | 19:42 |
| sflr | charlvn, the only real problem I see is to find a place on it on the network. Open ports, etc | 19:42 |
| charlvn | ciao all! | 19:42 |
| Kilos | this will take a while man. | 19:42 |
| sflr | ok bye | 19:42 |
| Kilos | cheers charlvn | 19:42 |
| Kilos | gtwitters prefs open opera browser here | 19:43 |
| Kilos | inetpro, do you guys look at all of those tweets | 19:44 |
| inetpro | Kilos: all those tweets? | 19:44 |
| Kilos | yeah from eshistoria etc | 19:44 |
| inetpro | hmm... I think twitter is oppiekoffie vandag | 19:45 |
| sflr | Kilos, you need to follow more people :) | 19:45 |
| Kilos | so then one just goes with friends and follows them only not everyone | 19:45 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:45 |
| Kilos | but to follow you need to find who to follow first | 19:46 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:46 |
| sflr | you will get the hang of it. you follow interesting people, companies | 19:46 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:46 |
| sflr | yes, that takes time. you can look in trends, search for things. look at friends followers, etc | 19:47 |
| sflr | I follow and unfollow lots of people, if I dont find them interesting anymore. | 19:47 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:48 |
| sflr | There are also lots of bots on twitter. sexy chicks following you :) then spam you to death | 19:48 |
| Kilos | eish | 19:48 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I only tweet like 3.1 times per day | 19:48 |
| sflr | if you like somebody's tweet, then you just retweet it | 19:49 |
| Kilos | whew now i get mail from twitter too | 19:50 |
| inetpro | ahh... mobile twitter ftw! https://mobile.twitter.com/ | 19:50 |
| Kilos | ok first i go trends and go change hey? | 19:50 |
| Kilos | or leave it at tailored friends | 19:51 |
| Kilos | see tweets like you are the toughest guy in your school will drive me nuts | 19:52 |
| sflr | you get suggestions. you can set to show trends locally or internationally, etc | 19:53 |
| sflr | inetpro, I hated mobile.twitter. But the Android app is pretty cool. Except the crashes. haha | 19:53 |
| inetpro | sflr: somehow the normal twitter is extremely slow for me this evening, especially when trying to post something | 19:54 |
| sflr | hmm.. that sounds like a big problemo | 19:56 |
| inetpro | but I think it's an unstable connection from 8ta | 19:56 |
| inetpro | very inconsistent and lot's of packet losses on and off | 19:56 |
| sflr | in the twitter architecture, the write operation is quick, so you can see your own tweet (and make you think your friends see it too :)) | 19:57 |
| sflr | ok, that sounds like 8ta then | 19:57 |
| sflr | my connection had problems earlier, but now its working. even the soccer is streaming properly | 19:57 |
| Kilos | inetpro, can you go twitter with elinks | 20:04 |
| Kilos | ?can one i mean | 20:04 |
| Kilos | already 20m gone with a browser | 20:04 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hmm... not so sure | 20:05 |
| inetpro | technically probably yes | 20:05 |
| Kilos | ok i will try | 20:05 |
| inetpro | just not sure how the authentication would work | 20:05 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 20:05 |
| sflr | you can try the mobile version, much lighter on resources https://mobile.twitter.com/ | 20:06 |
| sflr | user's backgrounds are big in size | 20:06 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you could also turn off images in your browser | 20:08 |
| inetpro | in Firefox select Preferences, click Content and uncheck Load images automatically | 20:11 |
| Kilos | lol you forgot i purged firefox | 20:11 |
| Kilos | have epiphany and opera | 20:12 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you removed it entirely? | 20:12 |
| Kilos | just some ubufox stuff still there methinks | 20:12 |
| inetpro | hmm... well, you could do the same thing with Opera | 20:13 |
| inetpro | what version of Opera> | 20:13 |
| inetpro | ? | 20:13 |
| inetpro | Apparently you click on View in your Opera menu, select the Images and Show images | 20:15 |
| Kilos | sjoe slow down im still trying to find the version | 20:15 |
| Kilos | mine doesnt show any images | 20:16 |
| Kilos | 11.64.1403 | 20:16 |
| Kilos | must be a new one | 20:16 |
| inetpro | but I must be honst, sites are looking terrible with images disabled these days | 20:17 |
| Kilos | yeah but if you are uncapped then images are fine | 20:17 |
| Kilos | maybe i should use gwibber like before hey? | 20:18 |
| inetpro | web developers no longer consider the visually impaired | 20:18 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:19 |
| Kilos | wow no wonder im falling of the chair | 20:20 |
| Kilos | look at the time | 20:20 |
| Kilos | the mobile twitter is more thrifty | 20:22 |
| Kilos | night inetpro sflr see you tomorrow | 20:25 |
| Kilos | night everyone else too | 20:25 |
| inetpro | Kilos: good night | 20:25 |
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