[00:00] <thomi> ls
[00:00] <thomi> oops :(
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> n2diy: you could kick them off with:  sudo killall -u guest
[00:00] <n2diy> ActionParsnip, he denied giving out his password, and the kid said she was on the guest account.
[00:00] <Smashcat> ActionParsnip: Cool - I used to use VLC on my old Linux workstation, but thought I'd give movie player a go as it was installed here. I know better now - haha
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> Smashcat: try gnome-mplayer it's pretty sweet imho
[00:01] <najaroma> ciaoo
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Smashcat: if you want the whole hog, you can add the medibuntu repo and install w32codecs (or w64codecs if you use 64bit ubuntu)
[00:02] <natervader13> hey does anyone know of a good music editing software I can get my hands on?
[00:02] <harrrismrubin> i accidently uninstalled thunderbird in 12.04
[00:03] <harrrismrubin> when i reinstalled it it is not in the notification bar
[00:03] <bazhang> natervader13, audacity
[00:03] <natervader13> well is it running?
[00:03] <n2diy> ActionParsnip, yes, or I could have restarted after changing his password. But I'm wondering why max showed up as being logged in, when it was the guest account?
[00:03] <Smashcat> ActionParsnip: Think I'm ok now - gnome-mplayer is playing my films great :-) Ubuntu need to remove that "Movie Player" trash. It's broken and not worth using
[00:04] <wylde_> n2diy: I've never used it, but could it be caused by "user switching"?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Smashcat: not used totem tbh but I always leave it in :)
[00:05] <gnubie> natervader13>  Ardour
[00:05] <harrrismrubin> ActionParsnip,  do you know how to re add it
[00:05] <kion> what is the difference between  Nvidia Current-version and Nvidia Current-Updates Drivers?
[00:05] <Smashcat> hehe, getting over 10MB/s download on torrents atm - love my new cable connection :-)))
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: readd what?
[00:05] <natervader13> gnubie: thanks ill check it out
[00:05] <harrrismrubin> i accidently uninstalled thunderbird in 12.04  when i reinstalled it it is not in the notification bar
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Smashcat: nice :), if you use apt-fast instead of apt-get you'll max it out more often if you update in CLI
[00:06] <gnubie> natervader13>  my son thinks its great
[00:06] <Wulfyuk> smashcat downloading those linux iso's will be quick :D
[00:06] <wylde_> !info mail-notification
[00:06] <n2diy> wylde, I don't know, I'm going to investigate more. The box was off before the kid logged in, so I don't think it could have been user switching?
[00:06] <Smashcat> Wulfyuk: heh, yeah I tried downloading Ubuntu when I had it installed - took about a minute :-)
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: not something I use personally dude, sorry. Maybe someone can list their thunderbird packages to see if you are missing anything
[00:06] <wylde_> n2diy: ahh alrighty, was a thought :)
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: is there a thunderbird glob al menu package etc?
[00:07] <harrrismrubin> ActionParsnip,  what do you use
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: webmail
[00:07] <harrrismrubin> is that an app
[00:07] <wylde_> harrrismrubin: thunderbird-globalmenu  maybe?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: no, its just accessing your email via web browser
[00:08] <wylde_> !info thunderbird-globalmenu
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> wylde_: sounds likely :)
[00:08]  * Skaperen has decided his new computer build will be without a CD/DVD drive
[00:09] <Wulfyuk> Skaperen, good choice tbh ive not used mine in 2 years cd wise
[00:09] <Wulfyuk> flash drives ftw
[00:09] <Skaperen> Ubuntu images work on USB memory sticks, now, so there's no more need
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> i use mine for DVD playback and that's it. minimal install ftw :)
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: could even setup a PXE server, no need for flash drives then :)
[00:09] <Skaperen> I do have a USB external DVD drive, so I could use that in a pinch
[00:10] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: true ... except for the fact that this new machine will be the PXE server :)
[00:10] <Skaperen> temporary PXE server to the rescue
[00:10] <Rook> I never have figured out how to set up a PXE server.
[00:11] <ljsoftnet> can i change the volume of my left and rigth speakers?
[00:11] <wylde_> mine get's used for  making cd's to push ubuntu or other  *nixs on windows users I know ;)
[00:11] <bairui> ...and I have my rhymes back! lyrical! \o/
[00:11] <Skaperen> Rook: it's documented ... many ways ... but a long check list of things to do
[00:11] <Skaperen> TFTP server, DHCP server with the right configs
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: run:  alsamixer  and you can use Q and E to increase the left or right channels individually :)
[00:11] <wylde_> !yay | bairu
[00:11] <Wulfyuk> Skaperen,  lol my last pxe server took 3-4 minutes
[00:11] <Rook> Skaperen: Yeah, I just haven't ever done it right.  I know it's all on my end why it doesn't work, but still.  I haven't done it right. :P
[00:12] <Skaperen> Wulfyuk: probably a one purpose server, then
[00:12] <Wulfyuk> to be fair it was on windows while i pxe'd a nix install over
[00:12] <kion> ljsoftnet:  put a book infront of one :) just kidding.
[00:12] <wylde_> !ltsp
[00:12] <wylde_> ^^ is uber easy using the alternative installer ;)
[00:13] <Smashcat> I use mine to rip DVD's/CDs - that's the only reason I keep it
[00:13] <Wulfyuk> quicker to download tbh smashcat (public domain ofc!)
[00:13] <Rook> Is this the right place to ask technical questions about Ubuntu installations?
[00:13] <Skaperen> USB drives are big these days ... I'd like to see someone make an image for one that has a boot selection for all editions of Ubuntu all on one
[00:13] <wylde_> Rook: it is
[00:13] <ki4ro> Rook: ask away
[00:14] <Wulfyuk> you mean like a all in one windows boot cd for instance Skaperen ?
[00:14] <chris_is_me> Skaperen: there are multi option cds
[00:14] <Skaperen> dunno about windows so cannot say
[00:14] <Rook> The last time I installed Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro, it bricked it.  Had to sell it for parts.  I have a nicer one now, and it'd be a shame to brick this one, but I really don't want OS X or Windows™ as my primary OS, but I also don't want OS X hosting my 'buntu VM.
[00:14] <bairui> thanks, wylde_ :)
[00:14] <chris_is_me> Skaperen: i've got a ubuntu/kubutu/edubutu
[00:14] <Skaperen> chris_is_me: they'd need to be DVDs
[00:15] <Rook> Is there a way to install 'buntu as the primary OS without it hosing the machine's EFI?
[00:15] <wylde_> bairui: np :)
[00:15] <chris_is_me> Skaperen: i'm not sure if my disc is cd/dvd
[00:15] <Wulfyuk> i remaber mandriva killing certain dvd rom drives a long time ago lol was funny as i stoped using it one version before
[00:15] <Skaperen> chris_is_me: I'd want Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, server edition, and both 32 bit and 64 bit of each
[00:15] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip it doesnt change left or rigth
[00:15] <kion> Rook: how did you installed it? I have never ever been able to even boot a usb with linux
[00:15] <Smashcat> Rook - as OS' go, OSX is pretty good really. Not sure what you could do inLinux over OSX on a Mac
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: if you drop one all the way down on the master, keep one side up, is it different?
[00:16] <kion> Rook: I am pretty shure Apple is very frightened by Linux
[00:16] <harrrismrubin> i got it to work
[00:16] <Rook> Kion, they should be.  They've got about the same market share.
[00:16] <Skaperen> kion: look what the fear did to Steve
[00:16] <kion> Skaperen: Agree!
[00:16] <Smashcat> Rook: Linux has quite a bit more of a Markey share I think, if you count Android
[00:17] <Smashcat> *Market
[00:17] <Rook> I don't.
[00:17] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip both the left and rigth move the same i cant change left or rigth, even with Q E or Z C
[00:17] <Rook> I don't mind OS X, but it's a memory hog for sure.  It's just not as efficient as it was when Jobs was making the decisions.
[00:17] <Skaperen> kion: and it isn't the unix-ish-ness of it ... OSX is based on BSD (which is OK) ... it's all the closed pieces
[00:17] <Rook> Hecks, Win7 uses less RAM than Lion.
[00:17] <Smashcat> Rook: hehe, I'm pretty sure Jobs had nothing to do with OSX memory management
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Smashcat: he doesn't have much to do with anything now
[00:18] <Rook> Smashcat, maybe not directly, but as soon as he handed over the reins, you saw an instant move from utility and efficiency to gratuitous visual effects.
[00:18] <Skaperen> kion: too many corps want to control people's lives to monetize it ... Microsoft, Apple, Facebook
[00:18] <kion> Skaperen:  OSX is as closed as it gets!
[00:18] <tjpoe> having some strange xorg problems. When I turn the PC on, i get display just fine. but if I turn the monitor (tv) off, and back on, or cycle thru the inputs, the monitor doesn't work when I get back.
[00:19] <Rook> Honestly, I'm thinking about making an image of everything off my Mac and using my OpenPandora as my primary computer.
[00:19] <Rook> No 'buntu, but it'd be open and efficient.
[00:19] <Smashcat> Rook: Not really. You know that stuff that gets rolled out today has been in the works since at least last year - when he was still in charge? Things don't change overnight
[00:19] <kion>  Skaperen: that is why i Love my Linux Freedom!
[00:19] <Rook> Speaking of actual technical questions:
[00:19] <n2diy> After further investigation, I'm not seeing the guest logged in at all. the commands w, who, whoami and user all show max (the sudo user) as logged in, but that is actually me on the SSH connection, guest is stealth!?
[00:19] <Swiss38974> hello i m looking to buy a smartphone and i d like to know if there is any ubuntu smartphone version available ?
[00:19] <tjpoe> Xorg.0.log output here: http://pastebin.com/mzbLX364
[00:20] <Skaperen> kion: the right to choose your distro ... I have more than one here
[00:20] <chris_is_me> tjpoe: i had the same problem with a ati radeon over dvi, i don't think it was os specific
[00:20] <Smashcat> Swiss38974: Nope - Android is the better option - Linux designed for mobile.
[00:20] <Swiss38974> hum
[00:20] <Swiss38974> cuz on the web i remember i've seen a video
[00:21] <kion>  Skaperen: Just as a test, I passed internet to my Macbook trough my linux box, and decided to block all the Apple's ip addresses, My Macbook went nuts trying to conect as much as 900 times a minute to different ip's under the Apple block!!!! And that was without using the computer!!
[00:21] <Swiss38974> it was about a guy usuing a smartphone
[00:21] <chris_is_me> Swiss38974: you can run ubuntu over andriod or something though
[00:21] <Skaperen> kion: oh dear
[00:21] <Swiss38974> and when he put the phone on a desk that became a normal ubuntu destop OS (on a normal pc screen)
[00:21] <Rook> Android isn't as open as pure linux in practice.  Every vendor adds their own closed-source blobs and drivers and UI's and bloatware.
[00:21] <Smashcat> Swiss38974: People have hacked other distros onto phones, but you usually lose a lot of functionality - like  making phone calls for instance
[00:21] <kion>  Skaperen: I belive that they are spying on you to develop new products...
[00:21] <Rook> Can't stand closed source any more.
[00:21] <bucsfan914> hey guys, about to wipe windows and do a clea install of 12.04. anything i should download beforehand to make it go easier?
[00:22] <Skaperen> kion: were they encrypted?  did you try to let them connect and sniff them?
[00:22] <Swiss38974> Smashcat : ok thank you
[00:22] <Smashcat> Rook: Android itself is totally open. It's the hardware drivers that are closed
[00:22] <Rook> Yeah, and the bloatware.
[00:22] <kion>  Skaperen: you know what, I did not, but sounds like a gread rainy weekend project
[00:22] <tjpoe> worked fine in meerkat, but oneiric, it is broken
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> bucsfan914: just the install media is needed, most stuff works with the default dribvers
[00:23] <Skaperen> supposedly Samsung is open sourcing drivers for the Galaxy S II ... but I haven't looked to see if they are out there, yet
[00:23] <Rook> bucsfan914, it should go smooth if you tell it to use the whole hard drive.  Just make sure you use the try before installing option to make sure your wireless cards or whatever else works.
[00:23] <Skaperen> kion: I hope it storms on you soon :)
[00:23] <bloodmoon> hi all
[00:23] <bucsfan914> alright thanks!
[00:23] <ljsoftnet> is there a software to change my rigth speaker volume, it doesn't make any sound
[00:23] <bloodmoon> yea
[00:24] <Smashcat> Skaperen: Some of the hardware in the phones call stacks use a lot of proprietary tech I think, so they can't open them.
[00:24] <Skaperen> ljsoftnet: volume manager should have a balance control
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: is the plug for the speakers pushed all the way into the hole?
[00:24] <bloodmoon> hmmm odd mine has a balance control
[00:24] <zizoo> Hey, pavucontrol is not opening an application stream I want to shift off of my null output back to the sound card. It shows up for a second when I load pavucontrol, then disappears and I can't get it. How can I fix it?
[00:24] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip yes, the left and the subwoofer has sound but the rigth doesn't
[00:24] <Skaperen> Smashcat: they _said_ they were ... issue as you mention might delay or prevent that ... need to find out if it ever happens
[00:25] <Skaperen> Smashcat: if Samsung does want to go open and gain a market edge that way, they are big enough to force chip makers and such to accept open
[00:25] <bloodmoon> -pokes- hi all?
[00:25] <Smashcat> Skaperen: Android's about as open as it gets though - I develop on the platform, and also OSX -  there's a big difference :-)
[00:26] <Skaperen> Smashcat: I need to get into doing Android ... but my love for OS building means I want ot build the whole thing from source and load my own image on to my Galaxy S II
[00:27] <Smashcat> Skaperen: Like most corps though, they do whatever makes the most money - if there's no advantage to opening up some other parts of a product, they don't do it
[00:27]  * Skaperen has had an S II for 4 months now and has never made a voice call onit ... all text and email and such
[00:27] <Skaperen> the mic might not even work ... never tested it
[00:27] <Rook> Okay, speaking of technical questions: Anyone know how to get OpenGL acceleration working on a Trident CyberALADDiN-T, specifically in a Toshiba Portége 3500?  Having issues getting DRI working properly.  I don't really need it for 3D stuff, but I'd really like it for SDL programs.
[00:27] <fleakite> I wish there was a way to remove t mobile bloatware apps
[00:27] <linusoleander> Is there a way to list list memory heavy processes?
[00:28]  * Skaperen needs an app that turns the mic into an audio oscilliscope
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> linusoleander: use:   top    in a termina;
[00:28]  * Smashcat has got a stack of S2's here, along with 20 Google Samsung Nexus phones - I do a lot of event work with microcontrollers and mobile. Got stuff everywhere atm ;-))
[00:28] <linusoleander> ActionParsnip: How do I sort by memory useable?
[00:28] <linusoleander> *usage
[00:29] <linusoleander> Just running "top" won't show anything useful
[00:29] <Skaperen> Smashcat: wow ... are they all unlocked or rooted?
[00:29] <Smashcat> Skaperen: No, just normal phones - no sim cards, unlocked - they only need wireless connections at the  next event.
[00:29] <Skaperen> Smashcat: you got that wifi adhoc walkit-talkie app on them?
[00:30] <Smashcat> Skaperen: They're going to be running an app I'm working on - nothing else really.
[00:30] <Skaperen> Smashcat: what does your app do?  gonna open source it?
[00:31] <fishcooker> how to write the error message of command line to file?
[00:31] <zizoo> pavucontrol isn't displaying some application streams that are mapped to the wrong output device. They flash on when I open it,  but then disappear and can't be brought back. Any ideas how to get to them?
[00:31]  * Skaperen wants to get a few people's open source apps ... source of them
[00:31] <Smashcat> Skaperen: No, it's specifically for a corporate event - it has no purpose outside of that. Like most of my stuff, it's all owned by the client after i hand it over.
[00:31] <Rook1> Okay, I got disconnected, did anyone respond to my video card question?
[00:31] <linusoleander> fishcooker: cmd 2&> file
[00:31] <Skaperen> Smashcat: I see ... work for hire stuff
[00:32] <Skaperen> Smashcat: but you could build an open source app if you wanted to
[00:32] <Smashcat> Skaperen: Yep. I did a job for the Google stand at the Mobile World Conference inBarcelona a few months back. A Claw arcade machine controlled by an Android tablet (using tilt and touch). Even the Google CEO had a go - heh
[00:33] <Skaperen> Smashcat: nice
[00:33] <tjpoe> anyone know what these two lines in Xorg.0.log mean:
[00:33] <tjpoe> [    30.820] (II) intel(0): Using EDID range info for horizontal sync
[00:33] <tjpoe> [    30.820] (II) intel(0): Using EDID range info for vertical refresh
[00:33] <Skaperen> means it is understanding your monitor better
[00:33] <Smashcat> Skaperen: You can see it on Youtube still I think. Had little Android toys in it for people to win. There were queues on it (plus 2 other clone machines) all day every day at the conference :-)
[00:34] <fishcooker> it works linusoleander
[00:34] <tjpoe> that is what shows up when I turn the monitor back on. and i get no video
[00:34] <fishcooker> thanks
[00:34] <linusoleander> fishcooker: np
[00:35] <tjpoe> [    30.820] (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines:
[00:35] <tjpoe> followed by all the modes the monitor can handle
[00:35] <Nosophorus> hi
[00:35] <tjpoe> i never input any of those modes, they are default values, would it be beneficial to hard code the resolution & settings I want?
[00:35] <Skaperen> if your monitor and X can agree on modes, if it fails it's likely some other issue
[00:36] <Skaperen> the EDID messages are normal
[00:36] <Skaperen> at least those are
[00:36] <escott> tjpoe, its just rereading the edid information when the monitor comes back on
[00:36] <tjpoe> it doesn't indicate a problem?
[00:36] <Skaperen> the monitor will tell it the normal geometry, and if the video card can handle it, that would be the usual default
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> tjpoe: is the screen ok otherwise?
[00:37] <tjpoe> no, the screen works fine when I boot up, but when I turn it off and back on, it doesn't detect a signal (like it has gone to sleep, but it has only been 5 seconds)
[00:37] <Skaperen> if you have a modern ATI or NVIDIA based video card with more than enough VRAM for your monitor size, that part isn't an issue
[00:38] <tjpoe> if I press a keyboard button, it "wakes up" but only to a black screen
[00:38] <Skaperen> if it got EDID data, it got the monitor's size
[00:38] <Smashcat> tjpoe: I had that problem on this Dell laptop - had to press the monitor button (that wswitches between the screen and an external display)
[00:39] <tking0037> can someone help me... when i turn my computer on i get this message saying waiting for network configuration...
[00:39] <Smashcat> tjpoe: I think the brightness button worked too.
[00:39] <tking0037> ive tried wicd and network-manager and they both produce the same problem
[00:39] <tjpoe> hmm. it isn't a laptop, it is an intel based mac mini
[00:39] <Skaperen> tking0037: one of the network setting steps is taking longer than normal ... does it eventually work after a few minutes?
[00:40] <tking0037> it will eventually boot up but i have to start network-manager manually
[00:40] <Smashcat> tjpoe: Ah ok
[00:40] <Skaperen> tking0037: check to see if you have /etc/network/interfaces configured with any NICs that are not really present
[00:41] <tking0037> eth0 is usually unplugged
[00:41] <tking0037> but i have network-manager managing that... shouldnt it know to disable that
[00:41] <Skaperen> tking0037: then is eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[00:41] <Skaperen> tking0037: it won't if it's hard configured
[00:41] <Smashcat> tjpoe: I did have the same problem with a Dell PC - but that's in a MAME cabinet now, and doesn't get a chance to go to sleep when I'm playing on it :-)
[00:41] <tking0037> its only configured for network-manager to manage it and that it is dhcp
[00:42] <tking0037> should i give it a static ip?
[00:42] <Skaperen> tking0037: no ... DHCP should be sufficient
[00:42] <Skaperen> unless you have a specific need for a static IP, use DHCP if you have that on your LAN
[00:42] <tking0037> im just trying to fix the problem
[00:43] <tking0037> should i disable eth0 with network-manager
[00:43] <Skaperen> tking0037: you could try a fully static IP config and see if that makes it consistently work
[00:43] <tking0037> what does that mean
[00:43] <sancas19> hello!!
[00:43] <Skaperen> tking0037: yeah, disable eth0 for testing ... but it should handle it normally
[00:44] <sancas19> i update my system and when i restart it pff... ubuntu die..
[00:44] <sancas19> Xorg cant start
[00:44] <tking0037> ok ... im going to restart ill brb
[00:44] <sancas19> now im in the live ubuntu
[00:45] <devkorcvince> clear
[00:45] <devkorcvince> oops
[00:46] <sway_> evening everyone
[00:47] <fishbait> i have samba installed ubuntu 12.04 workgroup matches and i am trying to access \\192.168.100.100\public theres no password required how do i access this
[00:47] <sacarlson> fishbait: can you see it in nautilus?
[00:47] <fishbait> how do i switch to that?
[00:48] <sacarlson> fishbait: in ubuntu 10.04 is what you see in places
[00:48] <fishbait> i'm on 12.04 in xfce4
[00:49] <sacarlson> fishbait: oh I'm not sure nautilus would be a part of xfce4 as I think it's a gnome app
[00:49] <fishbait> its located in my router running dd-wrt
[00:49] <n2diy> sacarlson, fishbait, thunar is the file manager with xfce4
[00:49] <n0t> Does anybody know what programs use port 50691?
[00:50] <fishbait> yes and i can get to nautilus somehow i just don't know how
[00:50] <sacarlson> n0t: sounds like a random port like maybe an input to a browser or java or ?  is something listening on that port?
[00:51] <escott> fishbait, i nautilus smb://192.168.100.100/public
[00:51] <sacarlson> n0t: also torrents
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> n0t: you could use netstat to search
[00:52] <n0t> sacarlson: I'm having 1000s of random IPs from all over the world being blocked by my router(I've been trace routing them and dns lookups), attempting to connect to my router using port 50691.
[00:52] <fishbait> ty that did it
[00:53] <fishcooker> how to use *.sig file .. is it just like md5sum.. i want to check is the cygwin setup is valid or not
[00:53] <Rook> 32 or 64 bit?
[00:53] <n0t> My router logs are getting huge, its just being spammed every couple of seconds and slowing down my net :(
[00:53] <devkorcvince> n0t: are you using torrent apps?
[00:53] <devkorcvince> n0t: or downloading via torrent?
[00:54] <sacarlson> n0t: my guess it's a torrent that might be from a session of the previose lease holder of that ip address
[00:54] <n0t> I have none running atm.
[00:54] <josue> so confused
[00:54] <fishcooker> is there any mechanism that apt will work with using the fastest repo?
[00:55] <Rook> I'm sorry, I meant to keep my question simple, but I feel I have just been confusing.  Should I use the 32 or 64 bit Ubuntu Desktop?  1 GB RAM, so I don't need 64 bits, strictly speaking.
[00:55] <sacarlson> fishcooker: there is an app that searches repository mirors to find the best connection for your location
[00:55] <fishcooker> 32bit desktop
[00:55] <escott> Rook, with such a small amount of ram you should probably go 32bit
[00:55] <fishcooker> Rook:
[00:55] <devkorcvince> Rook: Just use 32
[00:55] <fishcooker> +1 escott
[00:55] <wylde_> Rook: if you have no specific need for 64, use 32
[00:56] <Rook> Thank you all.
[00:56] <n0t> josue: what about?
[00:56] <fishcooker> what's it sacarlson
[00:56] <sacarlson> fishcooker: I don't know I forget
[00:56] <Skaperen> Rook: 32 bit can't lose on 1G ... and is fine even on 3G or 4G
[00:56] <josue_> i dont even know what im doing... to be honest
[00:57] <fishcooker> c'mon sacarlson.. :-)
[00:57] <josue_> first time to actually use this
[00:57] <Skaperen> but personally, I go with 64 bit now for anything above 1GB
[00:57] <Skaperen> if the CPU can handle it ... no choice on my EEE netbooks
[00:58] <sexykilla> I provocative video and this is one of them. If you want more just go and click on advertising. I shall gain money by a single click and you are free ---->> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptETHEjaHZg&feature=related
[00:58] <sexykilla> helloooooooooo
[00:58] <sacarlson> fishcooker: seems it's built into synaptic http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-select-fastest-mirror-in-ubuntu.html
[00:58] <Skaperen> sexykilla: go away, spammer
[00:58] <Rook> I know that 32 bit is supposedly more "compatible," but I haven't run into any problems trying to run things on 64-bit.  I'm a bit hazy on what the actual benefit to 64-bit OS's.  They use more memory, but can process bigger things (or possibly chunks of things at a time).
[00:59] <n0t> 64 bit == has more pointers
[00:59] <ronald2> wow
[00:59] <Skaperen> Rook: I have a dual arch USB memory stick rescue image if you want it ... though it is currently slackware based
[00:59] <fishcooker> ls
[00:59] <Rook> Nothing wrong with Slackware.
[01:00] <Skaperen> and it's text mode
[01:00] <cogNeato> How do I keep Mathematica while changing Linuxes?
[01:00] <Rook> CLI = win.
[01:00] <sexykilla> I provocative video and this is one of them. If you want more just go and click on advertising. I shall gain money by a single click and you are free ---->> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptETHEjaHZg&feature=related
[01:00] <n2diy> !ops seykilla
[01:01] <n0t> Installed slackware 13.37 on VMware today to mess with it.
[01:01] <wylde_> n2diy: you need a pipe in there ;)
[01:01] <Skaperen> sexykilla: what brain injury do you have?  momma dropped you at birth?
[01:01] <fishbait> how do i delete a directory?
[01:01] <n0t> KDE crashes instantly, XFCE works wonderfully.
[01:01] <wylde_> !ot | sexykilla
[01:01] <n2diy> wylde and to spell it right.
[01:01] <Skaperen> fishbait: rmdir if it is empty
[01:01] <fishbait> ty
[01:02] <n0t> ...waiting to hear, "wait.... i have files in there :O"
[01:02] <Skaperen> n0t: :)
[01:02] <Rook> fishbait: There is a switch to delete everything in a directory recursively, but I'd be real careful with it.
[01:02] <Skaperen> fishbait: man rm
[01:02] <sexykilla> I provocative video and this is one of them. If you want more just go and click on advertising. I shall gain money by a single click and you are free ---->> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptETHEjaHZg&feature=related
[01:02] <fishbait> oh yeah that kind of thing misused can delete the whole drive
[01:02] <ronald2> anything recursively is dangerous.......
[01:03] <Rook> I had to learn that the hard way.
[01:03] <ronald2> i know thats right rook, i did too
[01:03] <Skaperen> fishbait: hint: type "(" before typing a command, so you don't accidentally run in until you can look it over to be sure it is safe ... then append a ) on the end when you are sure
[01:04] <fishbait> oh ty for the tip
[01:04] <Rook> Skaperen: That is an awesome idea.
[01:04] <Skaperen> Rook: everyone learns it the hard way ... ONCE
[01:04] <fishbait> ok net drive access set
[01:04] <ronald2> yerah once....lol
[01:04] <n2diy> cq ki7rw
[01:04] <Rook> And if you learn the hard way twice, did you really learn it the first time?
[01:04] <wylde_> my hard lessons was backups. Now I backup often heh
[01:04] <ronald2> some things i had to learn more than once.....'cocaine is one hell of a drug'
[01:04] <Skaperen> Rook: like I said :)
[01:05] <fishcooker> i've question is the new laptop technology will automaticaly switch to ac plugged in after battery is fully charged?
[01:05] <Skaperen> Rook: they make screw up hundreds of times ... then they learn it once
[01:05] <josue_> anybody like to help out this ubuntu/linux newb?
[01:05] <ki7rw> what's a good voip client for linux that can call regular phones?
[01:05] <Rook> fishcooker: It should use AC to run the laptop even when charging it if you have it plugged in.
[01:05] <Skaperen> josue_: not until we know what the problem is
[01:06] <Rook> ki7rw, does it have to be FOSS?  If not, Skype.
[01:06] <Rook> At least until Microsoft kills Linux support for it.
[01:06] <Skaperen> running on AC *and* charging at the same time either overstresses the adapter or slows down the charging, on most models
[01:06] <ki7rw> skype works ok but it appears that you can't set it up to allow others see who's calling
[01:07] <Sway17> the problem is... this is my first time in an IRC and i just got Ubuntu this morning never knowing much about the Linux OS'
[01:07] <fishcooker> what should i do to preserve battery life span Skaperen?
[01:07] <sacarlson> fishcooker: I guess it does since when I don't have a battery installed the laptop still works
[01:07] <wylde_> Sway17: ...and then...?
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> Sway17: you'll learn with time :)
[01:07] <Skaperen> Sway17: did you install yet?  if so, which version and edition (editions are like "kubuntu" or such)
[01:07] <natervader13> Sway17: its pretty simple once you use it a little. If you know a good part of windows then your fine
[01:08] <fishcooker> should i remove the ac plugin when it is fully charged sacarlson
[01:08] <sacarlson> fishcooker: no
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Rook: microsoft make money with the Linux app so will more than likely support it
[01:08] <Skaperen> once it is fully charged, running on AC just leaves it charged
[01:08] <Sway17> im starting to slowly get it
[01:08] <Skaperen> I run my netbooks on AC when not carrying them around
[01:08] <Rook> ActionParsnip: For now.
[01:08] <fishcooker> with battery installed Skaperen
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> Rook: we'll see
[01:09] <Skaperen> Sway17: Linux (and BSD and Unix) are a different kind of world ... one we love ... one that is new to you
[01:09] <Rook> ActionParsnip: Yes, we most certainly will.  I hope things pan out in the long run for Skype, even if not for Microsoft.
[01:09] <Skaperen> Sway17: no popups trying to sell you on software or a service
[01:10] <Sway17> yeah i noticed that
[01:10] <Sway17> i love it so far
[01:10] <wylde_> Sway17: learn to love the command line ;) Not that you can't accomplish things the GUI way, you'll just realize how much faster and lots of time easier from commandline.
[01:10] <Sway17> hahaha ill keep that in mind
[01:10] <Rook> Skaperen: But there can be, people just care a bit more about their software design than to add ads.  Nothing's saying they can't.
[01:10] <Rook> Hooray labors of love!
[01:10] <Skaperen> learn both command line an GUI ... I'm an old graybeard command line guy ... but I do it in xterm, now
[01:11] <Sway17> i think im slowly stepping to the dark side
[01:11] <Sway17> i got my friend from work who got me checking this out
[01:11] <Rook> Sway17, the dark side isn't Linux.  Linux is the good guys, from a philosophical standpoint.
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> Sway17: its good to try new things
[01:11] <Skaperen> Sway17: ah, so you are installing deathbuntu?
[01:12] <josue_> so ubuntu is a bad OS?
[01:12] <Skaperen> Vubuntu ... the Ubuntu for Vampires ... runs on blood at night
[01:12] <Rook> Did anybody need me for anything else before I go?
[01:13] <Skaperen> josue_: yeah ... bad for those that prefer something else
[01:13] <Skaperen> Rook: just come back again sometime
[01:13] <AndyKing> i got some problems when i create a extended partition on my disk
[01:13] <Rook> Skaperen: I intend to.
[01:14] <AndyKing> when i use fdisk, there is no extended option
[01:14] <josue_> i actually got the Mint 13: Cinnamon from my work buddy earlier today
[01:14] <josue_> is that any good?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> josue_: depends on needs, in most cases its good. In some cases it's not
[01:15] <Skaperen> josue_: Linux Mint is OK
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> josue_: mint and cinammon are not supported here
[01:15] <Skaperen> josue_: some limitations sometimes in its repositories
[01:15] <josue_> yeah.... so any OS' near limitless?
[01:16] <Skaperen> yeah, they do have their own channels ... if you use them, ask help there ... some people here are there, too (to give you an idea)
[01:16] <AndyKing> i only got primary and logical options,  no entended
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> josue_: all software has limitations.
[01:16] <Skaperen> josue_: there are some junk and/or unsupported distros around ... beware ... caveat emptor ... but Mint is not one of those
[01:17] <josue_> roger that
[01:17] <Skaperen> here we do ubuntu
[01:17] <wylde_> josue_: my advice startging, use "stable" OS's and software versions. Trying to go bleeding edge when you aren't sure about what you're doing = MAJOR headaches
[01:17] <josue_> thanks yal i really do appreciate the assistance
[01:17] <josue_> yal take care
[01:17] <Skaperen> josue_: I'd suggest Ubuntu 12.04 LTS for now ... then if you feel you want more out of it, ask around
[01:18] <josue_> i have that at the moment i think
[01:18] <linelevel> Did Ubuntu really drop support in 12.04 for 32-bit non-PAE processors?
[01:18] <josue_> thanks!
[01:18] <kfank> unity question - I have several terminals open.  When I click the "shrink" button on the terminal window, how do I get it back?
[01:18] <Skaperen> linelevel: kernel did ... not sure which versions
[01:19] <Skaperen> linelevel: oh wait, you said NON-pae
[01:19] <wylde_> kfank: "shrink"? You mean minimize?
[01:19] <kfank> right
[01:19] <Skaperen> linelevel: PAE support in the kernel is being dropped
[01:20] <wylde_> kfank: look at the icon on the launch bar. It will have a small arrow or two next to it if there are minimized windows related to it.
[01:20] <Skaperen> anyone running more than 4GB on a 32-bit only CPU these days is silly
[01:20] <escott> linelevel, the x32 abi is a better choice for those who want >4GB ram and 32bit userspace
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> linelevel: install xubuntu or lubuntu first then, they don't use the PAE kernel by default
[01:20]  * Skaperen still has a server running 32-bit Slackware with 8GB ... that will be phased out when the new computer arrives
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: i have a dual core 32bit systemm, could have more than 4Gb in it...
[01:22] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: one of my netbooks is a dual core atom 32-bit onlt
[01:22] <Daekdroom> Skaperen, it's the opposite.
[01:22] <Daekdroom> Non-PAE kernels are being dropped from Ubuntu
[01:22] <Daekdroom> Not because they expect everyone to have 4GiB RAM but because most CPUs these days support PAE and it takes too much effort to maintain so many different kernels.
[01:23] <Skaperen> that 8gb server is dual 4-core xeon and can do 64-bit, but at the time I built it I was not ready to switch over to 64 bit
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Daekdroom: not in xubuntu..
[01:23] <Daekdroom> ActionParsnip, isn't it getting removed from the repos in 12.10?
[01:23] <Skaperen> when the new box arrives, it will become the new server, then the old server gets a makeover
[01:24] <Skaperen> Daekdroom: well, that won't fly for too long, since PAE support is being dropped by the kernel at some point
[01:25] <Daekdroom> Skaperen, why?
[01:25] <Skaperen> Daekdroom: PAE is a messy hack and has limited the way they can clean up the kernel
[01:25] <TransitTycoon> how do I add an alternate user to the sudoers file?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> Daekdroom: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/linux-image
[01:25] <kfank> wylde_: Okay, so I need to double-click on terminal icon to get view of all running terminals, then go click on the one I want?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> Daekdroom: seems all 3 exist.  :)
[01:25] <wylde_> kfank: yep.
[01:25] <Daekdroom> ActionParsnip, Yeah, I'm looking at that.
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> TransitTycoon: just add the user to the admin group and it will have access to sudo
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> TransitTycoon: you don't need to mess with the sudoers file
[01:26] <Skaperen> Daekdroom: when the kernel itself needs to access specific userland data, it needs to get the real address/pointer ... and in 32-bit mode it has to use a function call to make use of it
[01:26] <sacarlson> TransitTycoon: you can add another user to the sudo or admin group to add them to sudoer also
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> Daekdroom: I use quantal on my lappy but the CPU suports PAE
[01:26] <TransitTycoon> ActionParsnip: Negative; running an unstable
[01:26] <Daekdroom> ActionParsnip, linux-meta lists linux-generic-pae package as 'transitional package'.
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> TransitTycoon: how do you mean 'unstable'?
[01:26] <kfank> wylde_: okay, thanks.  No quicker shortcuts available?
[01:26] <Daekdroom> Which means that -generic must have PAE now.
[01:26] <TransitTycoon> ActionParsnip: Distro Upgrade, 12.10 sortof
[01:26] <Skaperen> Daekdroom: that means thousands of places in the kernel do function calls to let the kernel peek at userspace data
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> TransitTycoon: then ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:27] <TransitTycoon> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[01:27] <wylde_> kfank: other than alt+tab not that I know of. I'm not using unity atm either though.
[01:27] <Poddo> Can anyone help me with an email question?  I can't access comcast's webmail app on 12.04
[01:27] <Daekdroom> ActionParsnip, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/3.4.0.5.7
[01:28] <Skaperen> Daekdroom: when the memory model allows a whole process to be mapped AND the whole real RAM to be mapped ... at the same time from the kernel's view, then that isn't needed
[01:28] <kfank> wylde_: Ahh, alt-tab.  That works for me.
[01:28] <wylde_> :)
[01:28] <escott> Poddo, what happens when you try
[01:28] <Skaperen> Daekdroom: in 32-bit that is limited to 1GB or 2GB RAM depending on which of 2 models are chosen ... so later 32-bit kernels may be limited to 2GB rather than 4GB
[01:29] <Poddo> escott, it just says the connection was reset while the page was loading.
[01:29] <Skaperen> Daekdroom: well, definitely limited to 2GB and maybe 1GB ... no way to map real and virtual at 4GB
[01:29] <Daekdroom> Skaperen, I honestly didn't understand much after 'limited the way they can clean up the kernel'.
[01:29] <Skaperen> Daekdroom: oh, sorry
[01:30] <Poddo> escott, it works on the same computerr under windows, other computers in the house as well.  Other websites and mail services work on the ubuntu computer (gmail, yahoo)
[01:30] <Skaperen> Daekdroom: summary: by eliminating PAE support, and limiting real RAM to 2GB or 1GB in 32-bit, a lot of the kernel can be cleaned up
[01:30] <escott> Poddo, what browser are you using on the other machines
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: true but Lubuntu and Xubuntu are designed for low end systems mainaly, which may not have PAE facilities...
[01:31] <escott> Skaperen, you mean they are dropping some i386 HIGHMEM as well?
[01:31] <Daekdroom> Skaperen, it still seems to me that it'd only make sense for them to drop PAE when there's no reason to stick with 32-bit.
[01:31] <Poddo> escott, chrome on most of the other computers, but I've tested it with firefox as well
[01:31] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: which is fine ... but they won't be able to use more than 2GB
[01:32] <escott> Poddo, and what are you using on the machine that isnt working?
[01:33] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: largest allowed user space virtual memory size for one process PLUS the real memory size PLUS any hardware reserved memory cannot exceed 4GB on a non-PAE 32-bit kernel
[01:33] <Poddo> escott, I've tried firefox, since it was default installed, and also chromium
[01:33] <escott> Poddo, odd. does it require flash or anything?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: max ram for 32bit is 3.2Gb
[01:33] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: there is a way to use 3GB RAM ... but limit processes to 1GB which also limits executable size to even smaller like I think 256MB
[01:34] <Poddo> escott, not that I know of.  I've tried just pinging the server that it tries to connect to and get no response either
[01:34] <adarshaj_dev> I wanted to know how to deploy a dkms based module to launchpad ppa for auto building, any links/suggestions?
[01:34] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: that varies a bit, actually ... but the issue is how much of that you want a Linux kernel to be able to use
[01:34] <escott> Poddo, is the page source being downloaded correctly
[01:34] <Poddo> escott, this time when I pinged the server I got "icmp_seq=49 Packet filtered
[01:35] <Alan502> Hi, I have installed the drivers for my wifi device with ndisgtk (ndiswrapper gui). The device shows as "connected" on ndisgtk but I can't see it on network manager or iwconfig; what could be wrong
[01:35] <Alan502> ?
[01:35] <wylde_> adarshaj_dev: make a launchpad account and you get access to 2GB to use for ppa's
[01:35] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: the kernel code has to be able to see ALL of RAM and ALL of the current process VM in a single 4GB view w/o PAE
[01:35] <adarshaj_dev> wylde_: Thanks for that, any links specific to deploying a kernel module on launchpad?
[01:35] <escott> Poddo, if everything else works when browsing the web i dont see what difference that would make
[01:36] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: and the user space VM is divided up in 3 or 4 parts, too
[01:36]  * wylde_ is wondering if he's surrounded by kernel devs
[01:36] <wylde_> adarshaj_dev: probably in launchpad's help system. I don't have any links handy. I'll look real quick tho
[01:37] <Zeelot> hey guys, I used to have an option to close windows with middle click in the Scale Compiz plugin but I can't find it in 12.04, anyone know why?
[01:37] <trism> adarshaj_dev: it shouldn't be any different than any other package, since the module isn't actually built until you install the dkms package
[01:37] <sacarlson> adarshaj_dev: only app I know that has kernel modules that compile at install is virtualbox,  maybe take a look inside there deb file as an example
[01:38] <adarshaj_dev> trism: Oh, right. Thanks for that insight.
[01:38] <DeckardCain> how do I get sound in wine? I played with the settings in winecfg -> audio, but no luck so far.
[01:38] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: BTW, if you have a system that is stuck on 32-bit user space for some reason, you CAN switch the kernel to 64-bit (don't forget to update modules, too) ... then the memory model actually allows full 4GB per 32-bit process AND as much RAM as your machine supports, in the clean way
[01:39] <adarshaj_dev> sacarlson: Cool, that closely matches with my usecase. Will checkout :)
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> Skaperen: I'd just reinstall to get 64bit apps personaly, well tbh I'd just install the right arch first time :)
[01:40] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip: as would I
[01:40] <Skaperen> 32-bit is the exception around here just because of a couple legacy machines I've been too lazy to upgrade, and the netbooks that can only do 32
[01:41] <wylde_> adarshaj_dev: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas might at least get you started.
[01:41] <Skaperen> that an my rescue USB system is dual-arch
[01:41] <escott> Skaperen, how did you make that?
[01:41] <Skaperen> uh oh ... email from my boss
[01:42] <Skaperen> oh, no problem ... she liked my plan for 2 drupal tests sites
[01:42] <adarshaj_dev> wylde_: Thanks for that link, it seems to give me right pointers :)
[01:42] <Relondo> Where does Ubuntu install games and other applications, by default?
[01:43] <wylde_> Relondo: /bin /usr/bin
[01:43] <escott> Relondo, most applications end up in /usr, but its not a single folder per application the resources are spread around based on type
[01:43] <Skaperen> escott: I made a script that makes the image that I dd to USB memory sticks ... but for now it is based on Slackware 13.37 ... other versions later ... I'm expecting to release this project before the other distros ... so maybe other people will do those
[01:44] <wylde_> Relondo: you can also use 'locate thisbinariesname' after you 'sudo updatedb'
[01:44] <escott> Skaperen, im just wondering what you mean by "dual-architecture" do you mean you have a system you can boot and choose to go 64bit or 32bit so as to be able to chroot into either?
[01:44] <Skaperen> escott: you pick 32 vs 64 at the boot menu for now ... later I'll be making the boot menu gray out the 64 bit choices on 32-bit only CPUs
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: its to appeal to a bigger audience. I uninstall them myself
[01:44] <Relondo> wylde_: Not sure how to do that.
[01:44] <fanzhen> I lost my mails in thunderbird  .  can anyone tell me where is the archive mails??
[01:44] <Skaperen> escott: it has the choice, but it's not chroot based ... it uses pivot_root()
[01:44] <escott> Skaperen, and did you do that by having two different root partitons or something more complex
[01:45] <Alan502> Hi, I have installed the drivers for my wifi device with ndisgtk (ndiswrapper gui). The device shows as "connected" on ndisgtk but I can't see it on network manager or iwconfig; what could be wrong?
[01:45] <wylde_> Relondo: are you using unity or gnome shell?
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: the playdeb ppa has a tonne of games though if you want games. Urbanterror is a fantastic game if you like counterstrike with wall jumping :)
[01:45] <Relondo> actionparsnip: I'm talking about stuff I installed myself.
[01:45] <Relondo> wylde_: Unity.
[01:45] <Skaperen> escott: actually they are both in ONE partition (ONE filesystem) ... I do bind mount of the selected directory ("root32" vs "root64") then pivot the bind mounted mount point to be /
[01:45] <ggz> hi
[01:46] <Relondo> And I have yet to find it in either of those places you guys mentioned.
[01:46] <Skaperen> escott: that after hunting down the correct device via UUID
[01:46] <fanzhen> where does the thunderbird save the archive mail ??? I lost  all mails of last year.
[01:46] <Skaperen> escott: it's done in a little C program I wrote that runs before /sbin/init runs
[01:46] <wylde_> Relondo: ok ctrl+alt+t will open a terminal, then enter "sudo updatedb" (no quotes) once that finishes you can look for files using" locate thisfilename"
[01:46] <roasted> Question - is there a way to get the "displays" menu in system settings to display in the system tray with the clock, etc? I'm trying to find some sort of display manager that stays "docked" in the upper right corner for easy switching.
[01:46] <escott> Skaperen, cool
[01:47] <n1ckn4me09876543> Is it possible to get a virus if I open/install an EXE file with virus/malware in them thru WINE ?
[01:47] <sacarlson> Relondo: did you compile the apps you speak of?
[01:47] <escott> fanzhen, ~/.thunderbird
[01:47] <ggz> i just upgraded to 12.04 and networkmanager don't configure my network card anymore (says "not ready" (non pret) in the menu), it works fine with "sudo dhclient", do you know how to fix it ?
[01:47] <Skaperen> escott: I'll be distributing the build kit, not the image for dd-ing ... you make your own image ... so it's easier to customize
[01:47] <Relondo> sacarlson: All I know is that I installed Super Meat Boy through Ubuntu Software Center, and I need to get at its install files.
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> n1ckn4me09876543: it will only affect your ~/.wine folder
[01:48] <escott> Skaperen, it would be nice to have something like that on the livecd
[01:48] <fanzhen> escott , but I dont know how to import the archives and not find the archive file...
[01:48] <escott> fanzhen, unless you ask for one im not sure it makes one
[01:48] <Relondo> wylde_: That worked. Thanks.
[01:49] <DeckardCain> how do I get sound in wine? I played with the settings in winecfg -> audio, but no luck so far.
[01:49] <wylde_> Relondo: np :)
[01:49] <n1ckn4me09876543> ActionParsnip, oic
[01:49] <sacarlson> Relondo: you can look in synaptic right click the app and look at properties>file list  and see the path of each file in the package
[01:49] <Relondo> sacarlson: Ah, okay. Thanks for that, too.
[01:49] <fanzhen> escott, it is the thunderbird's default configuration ...
[01:50] <Skaperen> escott: I use to run another script I wrote that too Ubuntu ISOs and morphed them into hybrid ISOs ... did then for when I was working on the Easypeasy derivative of Ubuntu ... but it worked fine on Ubuntu itself ... but now I don't need to do that anymore
[01:50] <Skaperen> too=took
[01:51]  * Skaperen believes anything worth doing is worth scripting
[01:51] <sacarlson> ggz: I guess as a work around you could setup your system with a static ip address
[01:51] <escott> Skaperen, it would be nice to avoid the "should i download the 64bit or 32bit install image"
[01:51] <Skaperen> escott: yeah ... but a dual arch is larger
[01:52] <escott> Skaperen, i think they were going to give up on the 700MB size anyways
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> true and non techy users may be irked by a menu system at install etc
[01:52] <ggz> sacarlson: you mean setup dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces ? yes i could, but it would be nice to know the problem =)
[01:52] <Skaperen> escott: yeah, they should ... people use USB memory sticks more and more these days
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> escott: I payed for Linux Tycoon game, the only bugbear folks had was my distro didn't fit on a CD, the year was 2050 :), very funny
[01:53] <escott> ActionParsnip, no need for the menu. just check if the cpu supports long mode and install a 64bit system if it does
[01:53] <Relondo> How can I change the permissions for a folder without being the owner?
[01:53] <Skaperen> only older machines have CD non-DVD drives ... so Xubuntu and its friends will probably still have small base install media
[01:53] <escott> Relondo, sudo
[01:54] <wylde_> !sudo | Relondo
[01:54] <sacarlson> ggz: I agree and I'm sure there are many ways to get it to work,  I would assume it's in the sequence of upstart
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> escott: tru, cat /proc/cpuinfo     could easily by used :)
[01:54] <Relondo> escott: I don't know the terminal commands for that. I need to know either the commands or the way to do it graphically :/
[01:55] <Skaperen> FYI I use syslinux for booting on the memory stick rescue project, not grub ... easier to work with in the script that generates it
[01:55] <xangua> Relondo: and why do you want to change the permisions on a directory you don't own¿ explain what you want to do
[01:55] <sacarlson> ggz: did you already say you tried wicd?
[01:55] <escott> Skaperen, sorry one more question. im just curious on the technicals. by the time the kernel is ready to run a program to select the rootfs and do the pivot... you would have to have a kernel. so how do you pick what kind of kernel to boot?
[01:55] <Relondo> xangua: I'm editing some .cfg files for a game, but I lack the permissions to do so.
[01:56] <escott> Relondo, do you want to change permissions or ownership?
[01:56] <Relondo> Better yet, how do I make myself the owner of all files?
[01:56] <wylde_> Relondo: "sudo gedit /path/to/file" will work.
[01:56] <Relondo> escott: Either would serve my purposes, I suppose.
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: gksudo gedit /path/to/filename.cfg
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> wylde_: gksudo for gui apps, not sudo
[01:56] <Skaperen> http://phil.ipal.org/minne-pinne-0.4.0-96.png <-- what my boot menu looks like
[01:56] <wylde_> oops my bad, yes should have been gksu
[01:57] <Relondo> Actionparsnip: Thanks.
[01:57] <Relondo> wylde_: No problem.
[01:57] <escott> Relondo, i would go with ActionParsnip's suggestion and just edit as root
[01:57] <Relondo> K.
[01:58] <wylde_> I wish kdesu worked. -.-
[01:58] <freespirit-girl> I am trying to in stall Java on Ubuntu and i am having a hard time
[01:58] <wylde_> I know it's only 2 characters but hey...
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> freespirit-girl: there is a PPA for Oracle java 1.7 if you want...
[01:59] <freespirit-girl> well i was trying to use this.. http://www.devsniper.com/ubuntu-12-04-install-sun-jdk-6-7/
[01:59] <ggz> scarybeasts: no, wicd is an alternative to networkmanager ?
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> freespirit-girl: http://thecybergal.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/install-oracle-javajdk7-in-ubuntu.html
[02:01] <Loshki> Relondo: also, get into the habit of making a quick backup before you edit e.g. sudo cp /path/to/filename.cfg /path/to/filename.cfg.bak
[02:02] <Relondo> Loshki: Thanks for the tip.
[02:02] <freespirit-girl> Thanks!!! that link looks so much more easier to understand ActionParsnip
[02:03] <DeckardCain> how do I get sound in wine? I played with the settings in winecfg -> audio, but no luck so far.
[02:03] <wylde_> DeckardCain: #winehq would probably be able to help with that.
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> DeckardCain: ask in #winehq too
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> it may depend on what you are running in wine also
[02:04] <DeckardCain> k, thx
[02:04] <DeckardCain> Dr_Willis: the winecfg test sound button and diablo 2
[02:04] <Skaperen> it may depend on the default volume setting wine has in the audio system
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> check the wine app database yet?
[02:04] <harrrismrubin> at the notification bar there is a message about respiratory fail what do i do to fix it or remove the respitory
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> You mean Repository?
[02:05] <harrrismrubin> yes
[02:05] <wylde_> zomg, get it to the ER stat!
[02:05] <Skaperen> see Sound Preferences, applications tab, to be sure wine shows up with a reasonable volume setting ... if it does not who up, ask #winehq
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[02:05] <Dr_Willis> wylde_:  :) thats what i was thinking
[02:05] <Skaperen> not show up...
[02:06] <DeckardCain> Dr_Willis: app database? for the built-in test button?
[02:06] <harrrismrubin> at the notification bar there is a message about  Repository fail what do i do to fix it or remove the  Repository
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> harrrismrubin:  which repository?
[02:06] <harrrismrubin> idk
[02:06] <sacarlson> ggz yes wicd is an alternate for network-manager not sure it will correct the problem you say you have
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> harrrismrubin:  use the command line 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' look for some error messages with real info
[02:07] <wylde_> harrrismrubin: if it's been there for a while try 'sudp apt-get update', if that completes properly then it was probably a network failure of some sort when it was looking for updates.
[02:08] <harrrismrubin> ok i clicked check for updates and here is what it said
[02:08] <harrrismrubin> :
[02:08] <harrrismrubin> W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/antonio.chiurazzi/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[02:08] <harrrismrubin> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/antonio.chiurazzi/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[02:08] <harrrismrubin> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/crebs/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[02:08] <FloodBot1> harrrismrubin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:08] <wylde_> err sudo* illiterate fingers! >:(
[02:08] <harrrismrubin> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/crebs/ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[02:08] <wylde_> !paste
[02:09] <escott> harrrismrubin, perhaps those ppa's are no longer working? when did you install them
[02:09] <ki7rw> they made that ekiga too difficult to set up - skype doesn't have to worry about competition
[02:10] <escott> harrrismrubin, looks like at least one of those ppa's is oneiric but not precise. when you upgrade versions 11.10->12.04 you need to disable your ppas
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> ki7rw: skype can make webcams seem to be faulty when they are in fact fine
[02:11] <wylde_> harrrismrubin: you'll need to disable those ppa's. Dead links.
[02:11] <escott> ki7rw, ekiga and skype are very different. ekiga supports a lot of different ip telephony tools, skype supports only its own system
[02:12] <sacarlson> harrrismrubin: I see that your ppa doesn't have a build for precise, it supports up to natty
[02:12] <ki7rw> ActionParsnip: if you can't easily use their software then it's worthless to me - i did everything i could to make ekiga work but it won't register me - not to mention the hoops they make you jump through
[02:12] <harrrismrubin> how do i disable them what features will it get rid of
[02:13] <FriendlySoviet> ONLY IRC
[02:13] <FriendlySoviet> mt
[02:13] <wylde_> o.O
[02:13] <ki7rw> and they didn't seem interested in helping me and it appears that they don't intend to give me a refund
[02:13] <FriendlySoviet> Don't worry
[02:13] <DeckardCain> #winehq says: "then go install 32 bit alsa plugins" "if you need help with that part i'm afraid i'll have to send you back to #ubuntu"
[02:14] <escott> DeckardCain, if you know the package name then its just going to be sudo apt-get install package:i386
[02:14] <freespirit-girl> ActionParsnip: I feel silly asking but.. how do i get to the control panel. I am actually trying to help my cousin install using Ubuntu..
[02:14] <roasted> Question - is there a way to get the "displays" menu in system settings to display in the system tray with the clock, etc? I'm trying to find some sort of display manager that stays "docked" in the upper right corner for easy switching.
[02:14] <DeckardCain> escott: I don't know the package name
[02:15] <roasted> Hey fellas, anybody know of a good screen capture program that also catches audio? I'd like to set up a video how to guide.
[02:15] <devkorcvince> kazam -> roasted
[02:15] <roasted> appreciate it!
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> harrrismrubin, I doubt you will loose anything, if you lost the ppa access with a distro upgrade the pckgs are already gine.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> gone*
[02:16] <DeckardCain> I'll have to postpone that. thanks anyway
[02:17] <sacarlson> roasted: recordmydesktop is one I've used
[02:17] <roasted> sacarlson, I've used that too, but does it record audio?
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> freespirit-girl: press CTRL+ALT+T and you can run the commands there
[02:17] <roasted> sacarlson, last I used it (quite a while ago, 1-2 yearS) it didn't
[02:17] <sacarlson> roasted: yes it was recording voice when I used it
[02:18] <roasted> I'll keep it in mind - thanks!
[02:18] <ggz> sacarlson: ok thanks, i will use other tools until i have time to find a solution
[02:18] <harrrismrubin> so how do disable it
[02:18] <freespirit-girl> i copied all the commands and installed what you sent
[02:19] <escott> harrrismrubin, find the lines in /etc/apt and remove them with gksudo gedit filename
[02:19] <agc93> Does anyone here use mirage?
[02:20] <escott> !info ppa-purge | harrrismrubin is another option
[02:20] <dariushall21> Hey guys, can someone explain to me how to boot from a disc with the GRUB menu installed? I've tried removing my HDD from the boot list and it still boots to the GRUB menu. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 as a secondary and I'm trying to upgrade my windows to windows 7 and I can't get it to boot to the install disc.
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> harrrismrubin, go to the ubuntu software center-edit-software soyrces 2nd tab I think and un tick or remove
[02:20] <escott> dariushall21, go into your bios and change the boot order
[02:20] <agc93> dariushall21 the grub menu might be installed on a different disk, so change your boot order
[02:21] <dariushall21> escott, I have I have set my Disk drive, and removed my HDD allogether. There's only one HDD in my machine.
[02:21] <agc93> whats on the drive left in your machine?
[02:21] <agc93> i.e. any OSes installed on it?
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> dariushall21, use the per session boot menu if changing the bios does not work.
[02:22] <dariushall21> agc93, It has Ubuntu 12.04 and Windows XP.
[02:22] <agc93> Right, and you put the Windows install disc in and it still shows Grub?
[02:22] <dariushall21> wilee-nilee, I've tried, that also doesn't work.
[02:22] <escott> dariushall21, the drives in your computer are a red herring. the only thing that matters is the bios boot order. you want the cd to be the first boot device (its often not set that way because probing for a cd takes a while and manufacturers want a fast boot)
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> dariushall21, you found the menu then? sounds like a bad disc.
[02:23] <dariushall21> agc93, Correct. Even with turning off my HDD from the boot order altogether.
[02:23] <agc93> seems like a bad disc, then
[02:23] <harrrismrubin> why are all of my software sources unchecked
[02:23] <dariushall21> escott, it is set as my only boot option, HDD is off.
[02:23] <escott> dariushall21, then its a bad disk
[02:23] <harrrismrubin> what should be checked
[02:23] <dariushall21> escott, It
[02:23] <agc93> depends what you're looking for harrismrubin
[02:24] <Overlord> is there any official Facebook group of ubuntu?
[02:24] <dariushall21> escott, oops, it's a brand new disk, I bought it yesterday, there isn't a scratch on it.
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> harrrismrubin, a distro upgrade turns off third party stuff
[02:24] <harrrismrubin> no nothing is selected
[02:24] <escott> dariushall21, did you burn it correctly?
[02:24] <escott> dariushall21, does it work on other systems?
[02:24] <dariushall21> escott, it's an official Windows disc. And yes it has worked on my other machine fine.
[02:24] <Overlord> Ubuntu Facebook group??
[02:25] <agc93> then your boot options are messed up. If the HDD is turned off, then the BIOS should just come back with No Operating System, not the GRUB menu
[02:25] <escott> dariushall21, how is the cd drive connected to the system?
[02:25] <agc93> and Overlord, I'm not sure of any. Why?
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> Overlord, if there is google would find it
[02:25] <escott> agc93, a lot of modern bioses are smarter than that. they wont actually do that
[02:25] <dariushall21> escott, the disk drives cables hooked into the motherboard.
[02:25] <agc93> ah right. Min's pretty old :/
[02:26] <agc93> Mine*
[02:26] <^Lem^> hi all, has anyone experienced a long pause when trying to drag a moderate (~10) selection of bookmarks in the Firefox bookmarks window under unity 3d/Ubuntu 12.04?
[02:26] <dariushall21> My computer was made in may 20 2004, I can see its manufacture date, it's not a new computer, but it's always worked fine.
[02:26] <escott> dariushall21, shrug. you bios is not recognizing the cd as bootable either because the cd is bad, or because there is something about the way the cd drive is connected
[02:27] <dariushall21> escott, could it just be the drive? It don't know. It's an old computer.
[02:27] <escott> ^Lem^, what filesystem are you using?
[02:27] <dariushall21> I don't *
[02:27] <agc93> have you ever booted from another CD on that system dariu?
[02:27] <agc93> like the Ubuntu Live CD or similar?
[02:27] <^Lem^> escott: ext4 for both / and /home
[02:27] <ggz> bye
[02:27] <dariushall21> It was booted from a CD when I installed linux on it.
[02:28] <agc93> That's weird. Bad disc seems likely again
[02:28] <dariushall21> That sucks. $190 down the drain. I litterally bought it yesterday.
[02:28] <agc93> take it back. See if you can get another one
[02:28] <agc93> Try the same disc on another pc also
[02:29] <dariushall21> Why does it work in other machines though?
[02:29] <sacarlson> dariushall21: I have 3 old cd drivers 2 don't work anymore one works about 30% of the time,  seems the laser burns out?
[02:29] <dariushall21> It works fine on my laptop, and my other desktop without a problem.
[02:29] <escott> dariushall21, and try the session boot manager just in case the bios ignores its own config (one has to do that with usb devices)
[02:29] <escott> ^Lem^, you could try running firefox under eatmydata and see if it goes away
[02:30] <dariushall21> escott, so set it to boot from only disk drive, and then manually set it to boot from the "IDE CD Drive" as it says in the boot manager?
[02:30] <agc93> Well, im out of ideas dariu
[02:30] <^Lem^> escott: i'm pretty sure it's related to unity. my whole display freezes about 1 second after picking up the bookmarks (i.e. floating graphic is created), even the clock indicator stops, then about 4-5 seconds later, the whole display updates again, and the unity panel greys out some icons. must be trying to process the drag/drop event?
[02:30] <escott> ^Lem^, that would indicate that its an fsync issue
[02:30] <^Lem^> escott: eatmydata, ok i'll try that
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> dariushall21, is this a windows release upgrade like windows pro to ultimate?
[02:30] <agc93> also, does anyone here use mirage viewer?
[02:31] <dariushall21> wilee-nilee, No, it's a regular OS Windows 7 Ultimate.
[02:31] <myhero> way to check yesterdays irssi chat log ?
[02:31] <escott> !log | myhero
[02:31] <s00p3rg33n00s> hoa2use bspatch??
[02:31] <myhero> escott: yes
[02:31] <myhero> !log
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> dariushall21, use the windows usb loader it will read a disc I believe and load a thumb, or rip it and use a thumb with the same tool.
[02:32] <s00p3rg33n00s> Eh.
[02:32] <s00p3rg33n00s> I guess the real-- nah.
[02:32] <agc93> good idea. Wilee. The USB DVD Download tool hasn't failed me yet
[02:32] <s00p3rg33n00s> bai.
[02:33] <myhero> escott: ?????
[02:33] <KRomo> hey guys
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> agc93, you can do it inubuntu as well with a extraction to a thumb of the iso a ntfs and a bootflag.
[02:33] <dariushall21> The problem with that is I don't have any USB Thumbs big enough for it. Or I just would have downloaded Windows and used my serial numbers.
[02:33] <escott> myhero, what?
[02:33] <myhero> escott: that was command u specified or ???
[02:33] <dariushall21> Unless there's a way to install it directly from the Windows or Ubuntu enviroment I'm out of luck.
[02:33] <escott> myhero, listed to ubottu
[02:33] <^Lem^> escott: no change with "eatmydata firefox" from a command line. the timeout before my display updates seems exactly 5 seconds. the delay before it freezes is about 1/2 second
[02:33] <escott> !log | myhero
[02:34] <myhero> ohh
[02:34] <myhero> thnx | escott
[02:34] <myhero> !thnx | escott
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> dariushall21, you only need about 3 gigs a thumb big enough is less than 10$
[02:34] <KRomo> whats the benefit of ubuntu one over drop box?
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> KRomo, street greds, lol
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> creds*
[02:35] <Relondo> When I shut down my dual-boot Win 7/Ubuntu from Ubuntu, it immediately reboots. Help?
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> dariushall21: could use the minimal ISO, it's 20Mb
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: if you run:  sudo shutdown -h now    does it turn off?
[02:36] <KRomo> haha
[02:36] <dariushall21> actionparsnip, Windows 7 Ultimate is 6.8 GB
[02:36] <Relondo> actionparsnip: I'll try that. Won't be back to tell you if it worked, so thanks in advance.
[02:36] <sacarlson> dariushall21:  I boot windows iso from virtualbox running in ubuntu not sure that will do for you
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: which release too? Does the system have a make and model?
[02:37] <dariushall21> scarlson, a VM would murder this computer.
[02:37] <Relondo> actionparsnip: Runnning 12.04 Precise. And yeah, but I really don't have time to figure it out. I'll be back. 'Night.
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> dariushall21: ok you could use virtualbox
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: full details next time ok ;)
[02:37] <codeshepherd> how long will it take for ubuntu 12.04 LTS to have php version 5.3.13?
[02:37] <dariushall21> And everyone, it doesn't appear that my disk drive is loading anything. I have a disk with music on it, and when I click on my D drive it says "Please insert a disk
[02:37] <Relondo> Actionparsnip: Will do.
[02:38] <dbbo> i have the latest version of X and the radeon driver, but X will not start. my chipset is an hd radeon 4200.
[02:38] <codeshepherd> or is there a way for me to get php version 5.3.13 installed in ubuntu 12.04 LTS via apt-get?
[02:38] <dariushall21> actionparsnip, My computer is not strong enough for a VM. Intel Pentium IV 2.6 GHZ. Tired old processors.
[02:38] <harrrismrubin> what does gthis mean Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ testing/non-free i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_deb_dists_testing_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)
[02:39] <sacarlson> codeshepherd: I'm running php5 on 10.04 is something better about 5.3.13?
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: can you give a PASTEBIN of the output of:  grep -R google /etc/apt/*
[02:39] <xangua> harrrismrubin: it's mean it's duplicated, open software center, edit. preferences
[02:39] <dariushall21> Maybe my Disk drive cable isn't hooked into the board right, or the cables are bad.
[02:39] <xangua> harrrismrubin: and remove the entry
[02:39] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, any1 have the gnome-magnifier installed? I need to known the command to run the app...
[02:39] <dariushall21> I'll be back everyone, I'm going to swap disk drives.
[02:39] <codeshepherd> sacarlson:  there is a critical bug in 5.3.10 - which has got fixed in 5.3.13
[02:40] <fleakite> why do the icons in the system tray keep disappearing?  i'm on ubuntu precise
[02:40] <trism> CrazyGangster: looks like /usr/bin/magnifier
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: my command will highlight duplicates and we can clean you up
[02:41] <CrazyGangster> trism: thanks i will give a try
[02:41] <harrrismrubin> ActionParsnip,  with the *
[02:43] <trism> codeshepherd: looks like they backported the fix: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2012/CVE-2012-2311.html
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: yes, I gave the command you need. run it then use a pastebin to host the result
[02:44] <kallisti> so I need to burn a CD while in an Ubuntu liveCD distro
[02:44] <kallisti> is there a way to do that? I have several gigs of swap I could dedicate for the entire disk.
[02:44] <codeshepherd> trism: this is a different bug -
[02:44] <CrazyGangster> trism: i dont know whats wrong but when i run the command i got lot of msg like this "we should clip at -196, -101"
[02:44] <harrrismrubin> do i give the url
[02:44] <jonathon> Anyone know of a Hex Editor that displays Japanese Characters?
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: yes, copy the URL and paste here
[02:45] <escott> jonathon, gvim's hex mode should
[02:45] <harrrismrubin> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1038305/
[02:45] <trism> codeshepherd: which bug?
[02:45] <codeshepherd>  is it possible for me to get 5.3.13 from any other php repository? trism  sacarlson
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> kallisti:  or you could partion the hd and make a 1gb partition and setup grub2 on it to boot an iso file
[02:45] <sacarlson> codeshepherd: I'm looking at php 5.4 in ppa
[02:45] <harrrismrubin> ActionParsnip,  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1038305/
[02:45] <kallisti> Dr_Willis: hm, too much trouble at that point.
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> thats how i do very very speedy installs. ;)
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list.save; sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.save
[02:46] <jonathon> Thanks, escott
[02:46] <harrrismrubin> all in one code ActionParsnip
[02:46] <escott> codeshepherd, if your reason for wanting to upgrade is a CVE notice i wouldn't install a ppa. you are more likely to get slower updates in the future
[02:46] <kallisti> Dr_Willis: is there no way to relocate the liveCD to hard disk or just load the whole thing into RAM?
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> kallisti:  used to be a toram option. but ive not  tried that in ages
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: then run all this (without the top line): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1038306/
[02:47] <escott> kallisti, whats wrong with just letting the livecd use your existing swap. it might be slow but it should work
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> iso/grub2 would relocate /boot it from hard disk. freeing up the cd.
[02:47] <trism> CrazyGangster: is it still working? if so you can probably safely ignore the warnings (I haven't used the tool, and I don't see any bugs with the message)
[02:48] <sacarlson> codeshepherd: see https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5  it's 5.4.X  and supports from lucid up to precies
[02:48] <kallisti> escott: nothing is wrong with that. that's what I'm trying to do.
[02:48] <codeshepherd> the bug is https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=61045  trism
[02:48] <kallisti> I need the whole liveCD in ram (which includes my swap) so that I can change the CD out.
[02:49] <escott> kallisti, oh. that wont work
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> might be worth  googling for '12.04 toram'
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> seen quite a few distros have a toram option.
[02:49] <kassiocarlos> alguém de João Pessoa PB
[02:50] <kallisti> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM   this says:  Unnecessary on 11.04 LiveCD. Casper now includes a functioning toram option, which even works with the iso-scan/filename= option.
[02:50] <kallisti> but othewise doesn't specify how to do that.
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> edit the boot line like you would for nomodeset, only add 'toram' instead of nomodeset
[02:50] <harrrismrubin> now what ActionParsnip
[02:51] <jonathon> escott, Not showing on there either, which font should I use?
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: does that work in ubuntu?
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: if you run:  sudo apt-get update
[02:51] <kassiocarlos> oi
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> there may be a toram option in the f5/f6 options
[02:51] <trism> codeshepherd: there is a bug about it on launchpad: bug 999969 so that one probably isn't fixed unfortunately
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  not tried it in ages. no idea
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: I know it works in puppy :)
[02:52] <escott> jonathon, sorry i dont know then. gvim supports unicode so as long as your font has the correct unicode characters it should work
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> works in tinycorelinux also
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: is it smooth now?
[02:52] <harrrismrubin> it is running
[02:53] <harrrismrubin> if i remove a app will the source that is for it be removed
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> 'source' meaning?
[02:53] <codeshepherd> thanks trism
[02:54] <harrrismrubin> no same thing
[02:54] <strictland> hello everyone, I get this error when my system boots up... Error: out of disk. grub rescue>
[02:54] <harrrismrubin> still has the duplicate
[02:54] <kallisti> Dr_Willis: well it seems to be working so far without the liveCD in, but it is taking a long time at "creating image checksum" when I attempt to burn this CD so maybe it's waiting for a binary to load
[02:55] <strictland> i simply ctrl+alt+del and it boot up fine... but how can I avoid that whole error message
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> md5summing a 700mb file may take some time.
[02:55] <natervader13> strictland: just clear up some space on your hdd, otherwise go to the interwebs for answers
[02:56] <escott> strictland, you mean it boots find warm, but not cold?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> grub failing due to a full hrd drive? cantg say ive ever seen that'
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> strictland, there is a out of disc option in the advanced part of this tool. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:56] <escott> natervader13, thats not what out of disk means
[02:57] <strictland> wilee-nilee, I'll look into it
[02:57] <harrrismrubin> ActionParsnip,  all smooth
[02:58] <strictland> for the record, my hdd still has plenty of room, like 25gb free
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> strictland, if you continue to have problems start a thread on the ubuntu forums with the out of disc in the header.
[02:59] <escott> strictland, it has nothing to do with the disk usage
[02:59] <escott> strictland, it means roughly "i asked the bios to read some part of the disk, and the bios gave me an error, i guess im 'out of disk'"
[03:00] <escott> strictland, so it could be a bios bug, or it could be an issue with your partition tables
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> strictland, it is the limitations on how for on to the disc can be read 136 gigs or so I believe
[03:00] <escott> strictland, you might try creating a small boot partition at the front of the disk and using that
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> strictland, escott is correct here, +1
[03:01] <agc93> anyone got any ideas if a program is giving python invalid literal errors on starting? Never happened before.
[03:01] <agc93> Seems to have something to do with recent logs
[03:02] <sacarlson> agc93: what app do we speak of?
[03:02] <agc93> mirage
[03:03] <agc93> wont even start
[03:03] <notsmelly> hey all
[03:04] <qwebirc792331> can anyone help me out
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: sweet, good to go :)
[03:04] <qwebirc792331> i just built a new computer, and for some reason when i try to boot ubuntu from a usb
[03:04] <qwebirc792331> it goes to the screen whre i have to press a key on the keyboard
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc792331: what GPU do you use?
[03:04] <qwebirc792331> then i do that and select install ubuntu, then it goes to a black screen with flashing cursor
[03:05] <qwebirc792331> gtx550ti
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc792331: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[03:05] <qwebirc792331> and how do i do this?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> wonder how that differs from nomodeset
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc792331: and ease up on the ENTER key, posting a long long long question like this I am doing now is better than lots of lines
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | qwebirc792331
[03:05] <qwebirc792331> okay thanks
[03:06] <Frood> qwebirc792331: this is unrelated to your question, but what do you think about the 550 ti?
[03:06] <escott> Dr_Willis, thats blacklisting the nouveau module in its entirety. not just saying "kernel don't do modesetting"
[03:06] <qwebirc792331> idk, haven't used it yet ahaha
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: the display timings were moved into the kernel, I believe nomodeset defaults it to the old regime
[03:06] <Frood> ah, okay
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> on my nvidia machines where i used to have to use nomodeset. ;) ive noticed i dont need it any more
[03:06] <escott> Dr_Willis, you can still have nouveau with nomodeset in which case X does its own probing and modesetting
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 explains it nicely
[03:07] <qwebirc792331> so right now, i'm redownloading the iso file, of 12.04.  is there any way I can change the boot options on this computer?
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> be nice if ghey had some of thse common options  we seem to suggst in here daily.. on the grub/boot menus easier to get to
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc792331: read the link ubottu gave, that's why I made her give it....
[03:07] <fission6> do these insturctions look well "advised" http://utkarshsengar.com/2011/01/manage-multiple-accounts-on-1-amazon-ec2-instance/
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> qwebirc792331:  why redownloading it? You just boot thecd. and  append the right options to the boot line. like the guides show
[03:09] <sacarlson> qwebirc792331: redownloading the iso?  why did the md5sum mismatch?
[03:09] <qwebirc792331> no i just thought maybe I did something wrong so I'm trying it from windows now
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> trying 'what' from windows now?
[03:10] <strictland> my hdd is 80gb, 15gb alloted for swap, and 60 gb for my boot partition, about 32gb used and roughly 27gb unused...
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc792331: some nvidia GPUs don't like the nouveau driver, by blacklisting it you will use the nv driver which will more than likely work
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> strictland: how much RAM do you have?
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> strictland:  you mean 60gb for 'root partition' not /boot ?
[03:10] <strictland> 16gb
[03:10] <strictland> 16gb ram
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> strictland: you only need 16Gb then, if you don't need hibernate you probably won't need swap at all
[03:11] <qwebirc792331> thanks action parsnip, i'm gonna do some searching im not even sure what nouveau driver means....
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> strictland: /boot will need to be 100Mb at most
[03:11] <poter> hola
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> strictland: if you mean the root partition to hold the OS then 10Gb is probably enough
[03:11] <polygons> hey guys, when i go to open my home directory, i get this:  Failed to open directory "brad".  Error stating file '/home/brad/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected.  i think this happened after my laptop crashed and i had to cold-restart.  thanks!
[03:12] <escott> strictland, with that broken bios keep you /boot under 100MB and put it at the very front of the disk
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> strictland: you can assign the rest for /home to store your user data
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> escott: old school
[03:13] <strictland> i feel like a noob now, but be patient with me... in gparted, it shows mount point "/" with a size of 59.60gb, used 32gb and unused 27gb, under the flags category, it says "boot"....
[03:15] <agc93> a boot partition would be a separate one with mount point /boot
[03:15] <escott> strictland, flags shouldnt matter, but with your broken bios they might
[03:15] <agc93> the boot flag just says that the partition can be booted from
[03:16] <qwebirc792331> !bootoption
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> strictland: yes, it uses that partition to boot with.
[03:17] <strictland> so its seems i shouldnt have trouble with my available space correct? why the error message?
[03:17] <qwebirc792331> actionparsnip:  I'm still not clear on how I do this, do I create the live disk (USB), then go into it from ubuntu that I have installed on this computer and edit the boot options?
[03:17] <escott> strictland, its a bug in your bios. just make 100MB of space at the front of the disk. create a /boot partition there, mark it bootable and you should be ok
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc792331: read the page, its why it exists
[03:18] <strictland> i okay, i can do this within gparted, or do i have to boot from live cd and do this
[03:18] <harrrismrubin> gtg bye
[03:18] <harrrismrubin> thnx for all of your help
[03:18] <escott> strictland, livecd
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> qwebirc792331:  i thinkthe  nomodeset wiki page shows scrfeen shots of almost the same procedure, only with a differnt option
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[03:19] <qwebirc792331> No I understand, but when I loaded it before, it wouldn't let me use any F key other than F1
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, there is failsafe boot in the recovery of grub as well.
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> boot cd..tap the space key like crazy wwhen a little man=keybord option imagee appears
[03:19] <VirtualBlackness> Dr_Willis: space or shift?
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> for the cd its space i belive..
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> shift
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> for a grub/insgtall its shift
[03:20] <VirtualBlackness> Dr_Willis: I know it WAS escape... it is possible all three work at this point.
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> shift for the cd as well
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> actually on the instal cd it maybe any case..
[03:20] <strictland> okay escott, thanks for the help.... and just so i don't miss anything.... should i do the boot-repair thing wilee nilee mentioned earlier before the /boot? or just the /boot thing?
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> aany key
[03:20] <escott> strictland, you'll also need to copy the files in /boot to your new partition, mount everything and chroot in and reinstall grub onto the mbr
[03:21] <escott> strictland, from what you said earlier grub is working. at least on warm boots. but on cold boots the bios hiccups. so grub is not the problem
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> qwebirc792331: try SHIFT
[03:24] <Skaperen> hmmm ... writing a solid data pattern on a flash drive really is faster if the entire patter is all 0xff bytes
[03:25] <escott> Skaperen, thats probably the pattern the firmware uses for unallocated
[03:29] <KRomo> can anyone suggest  a domain hosting company?
[03:29] <KRomo> im using dotster and they are too expensive
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[03:30] <daslinkard> Hello room!
[03:32] <sergioguerra> Help i just installed ubuntu 10.04 and i cant get wifi on?
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: noip is free
[03:33] <KRomo> oh hey ActionParsnip !
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> sergioguerra: why are you not using Precise?
[03:33] <McKooter> Ìû
[03:34] <sergioguerra> action cause want to use 10.04 please help!
[03:34] <KRomo> can i transfer my domain to noip?
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> jello. ;0
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> sergioguerra: what wifi chip are you using?
[03:34] <pikkachu> in user management, option to encrypt home dir is gone since 12.04, even though it existed in the installer's account creation. Any clue?
[03:34] <sergioguerra> broadcam im using a netbook
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[03:35] <sergioguerra> no i cant do thaty
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> sergioguerra: why not?
[03:35] <sergioguerra> hold on
[03:35]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[03:36] <codeshepherd> i want to install php 5.3.9 in ubuntu 12.04 via apt-get - what repository should I add?
[03:36] <sergioguerra> action cause i cant get on the internet on that one!
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> sergioguerra: read the whole page, there is an offline option!
[03:37] <tryingtoboot> !bootoptions
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> or run a cable and use the addational-drivers tool  for a few min.
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> sergioguerra: not only that, tyhe netbook is mobile, so you can move it near the router and get a wired connection which makes life a tonne easier
[03:37] <escott> pikkachu, because its much more complicated to setup after the fact
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> my netbook dident need any extra drivers for wireless to work.  runs 12.04 great also
[03:38] <lizzin> i am trying to install 'sbt'. the site says to first install a 'deb'. how do i do this?
[03:38] <sergioguerra> action
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> sergioguerra: why are you wanting to use Lucid, its so old. What could the reason possibly be?
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> lizzin:  .deb is the extension for  packages for debian/ubuntu
[03:39] <tryingtoboot> what was the command to blacklist the nouveau driver on boot options?
[03:39] <agc93> If you have the deb file, just double click it to install
[03:39] <sergioguerra> i dont have a usb stick
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> sergioguerra: how did you install then?
[03:39] <sergioguerra> wubi
[03:39] <lizzin> Dr_Willis: but how do you install it?
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> sergioguerra: oh jeez it gets better and better
[03:40] <lizzin> agc93: is there a way to install it via terminal?
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> lizzin:  download tghe  file. be sure to get the  .deb version, double click...
[03:40] <sergioguerra> oh dur i just have to down load them from windows IM SUCH A DIPSHIT
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> sergioguerra: no need there is a native driver
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> sergioguerra:  id just run a network cable for 5 min...
[03:40] <lizzin> Dr_Willis: is there a way to install without a mouse, from terminal?
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> sergioguerra: grab a wired connection and it will be available in the additional drivers
[03:40] <sergioguerra> action i cant its my FREINDS WIfi
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> !apt | lizzin
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> lizzin:  sudo dpng -i foo.deb
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> oops.. dpkg -i foo.deb
[03:41] <lizzin> Dr_Willis: ok thanks, ill read up on that
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> lizzin:  or 'gdebi foo.deb'
[03:42] <tryingtoboot> blomg thank you guys so much.... ubuntu 12.04 is loading now i can safely say that I didnt install any hardware wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:45] <tryingtoboot> ahaha my hard drive is in wrong
[03:45] <lizzin> Dr_Willis: https://github.com/harrah/xsbt/wiki/Getting-Started-Setup .this says to install the deb, which i did with 'sudo dpkg -i foo.deb' but 'apt-cache search sbt' still doesnt show an sbt pkg. any idea what could be going wrong here?
[03:45] <pikkachu> escott: because to what why? what fact?
[03:46] <escott> pikkachu, all the user data has to be moved into a new encrypted partition which has to be mounted in a non-standard place. basically momentarily doubles the disk usage
[03:47] <pikkachu> escott: the user wasn't created yet
[03:48] <escott> pikkachu, oh. thought you were talking about an existing user.
[03:48] <pikkachu> escott: so the approach changed?
[03:48] <escott> pikkachu, i guess its just a gui change then
[03:49] <pikkachu> escott: in 11.10, I could create an user and encrypt his *home*, the encryption was done with *his password* which hence worked as a passphrase
[03:49] <Exploiter> how can I change sound theme (newly placed in usr/something/sound) in ubuntu 12.04?
[03:49] <JW1> Hi all, does anyone know how to associate a file type with a command that does not appear in the right-click menu?
[03:50] <pikkachu> escott: 12.04 works the same way, checking home encryption for the user you need to create there will require you to fill in a password
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> Serotonergic: it will still have ethernet ports...
[03:50] <Exploiter> how can I change sound theme (newly placed in usr/something/sound) in ubuntu 12.04?
[03:50] <KRomo> can anyone suggest  a domain hosting company that is like super cheap? lol
[03:51] <KRomo> noip is $15 year
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> Exploiter: in the sound app in Unity, you can change the sound theme there
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: 15 a year is nothing
[03:51] <KRomo> just for the domain
[03:51] <KRomo> no web hosting
[03:51] <Exploiter> ActionParsnip: I m in gnome classic and i dont no that app
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> Exploiter: there is still the sound app in the menus some place
[03:52] <JW1> For instance, I open up my home folder, and I have a file with an extension of .log, and I right-click on the file and I get "Open With" and several options, but none of those options work for me
[03:52] <JW1> I choose "Open With Other Application" but the application that I want to use doesn't appear there either
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> JW1: file extensions in Linux don't mean much
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> JW1: what app do you want to use?
[03:53] <JW1> wxmacmolplt
[03:53] <Exploiter> ActionParsnip, Can you tell me the exact one, because system tool > system setting does not allow me to change theme, just the aler sound and new theme is not there
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> Exploiter: search through for sound, you'll find it, possibly in system
[03:55] <Exploiter> i quit
[03:55] <JW1> ActionParsnip, the program is wxmacmolplt, it does not come with the standard Ubuntu distribution nor is it on the Ubuntu servers
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> JW1: bit of a hack but you could add: TextEditor;    to the end of the categories line in the .desktop file for the app in /usr/share/applications
[03:55] <agc93> anyone here use GNOME 3 and multiple monitors?
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> agc93: I'm sure many do
[03:56] <WhiteStarEOF> Is there a way I can figure out what module is driving wlan0?
[03:56] <pikkachu> does anyone know why the check for encrypting a user's home doesn't show anymore in 12.04?
[03:56] <JW1> ActionParsnip, where would I add it in this file?  It looks like this file has the format of variable=value
[03:56] <pikkachu> what's the purpose of the templates dir in home?
[03:57] <agc93> Has anyone on GNOME 3 managed to get a second monitor to display *above* the first monitor?
[03:57] <JW1> ActionParsnip, oh never mind, I just read your last comment, thanks
[03:57] <Omen_20> Hi, I'm trying to go on standby and I'm getting an error "could not write bytes broken pipe"
[03:58] <Codedninja> Can anyone help me?
[03:58] <Codedninja> http://www.bvog.com/?post=IDWC6nEQgT73gCnzj
[03:59] <JW1> ActionParsnip, that didn't seem to work, wxmacmolplt still doesn't show up when I right-click on a .log file
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> pikkachu: its so that when you right click and selct new, the files you make in there will be referenced
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> JW1: try logging off and on
[04:00] <lizzin> Dr_Willis: just realized that i needed to do 'apt-get update'
[04:00] <lizzin> Dr_Willis: thanks
[04:00] <JW1> ActionParsnip, hmm is there a way to do it without restarting my session?  I have a job running that I would prefer not to interrupt
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> pikkachu: usually you will make blank files in there. Commands like:  touch ~/Templates/Blank\ Writer\ Doc.odt      will make a template for you
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> JW1: not sure, i'd just wait for the job to finish. Maybe they are read periodically...
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> pikkachu: and:  touch ~/Templates/Blank\ Text\ Doc.txt
[04:02] <lizzin> Dr_Willis: https://github.com/harrah/xsbt/wiki/Getting-Started-Setup .this says to install the deb, which i did with 'sudo dpkg -i foo.deb' but 'apt-cache search sbt' still doesnt show an sbt pkg. any idea what could be going wrong here?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> pikkachu: you can now right click in nautilus and make new files, kinda like in WIndows
[04:03] <JW1> ActionParsnip, unfortunately the job will take several more days to finish.  Guess I will try it out then.
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> JW1: wow, large job!
[04:03] <JW1> ActionParsnip, it is a quantum chemical calculation
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> JW1: dang
[04:05] <glitsj16> JW1: if wxmacmolplt has an 'Open File' option you could start it and pen the .log file in question from inside it temporarily no?
[04:06] <duhamel> i have just installed fresh ubuntu studio 12.04 alongside windows 7 on 128gb ssd, i designated my old home parttion on a seperate 2tb hdd as the fresh installs home partition. in terminal it goes straight into old home when i type cd /home/ but on desktop home icon is empty how do i get the old /home into that icon?
[04:07] <duhamel> sorry that was long winded.
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> duhamel: on the desktop is it just a symlink?
[04:07] <duhamel> whewn i look in gpart i don't see a second home partition anywhere.
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> duhamel: if it's on a seperate drive, you will need to switch gparted to manipulate the other drive
[04:08] <duhamel> ActionParsnip: im not sure, how woul;d i know? im a noob.
[04:08] <duhamel> Im a noob.
[04:08] <pikkachu> ActionParsnip: the idea is having templates just for the file names? (because touch create empty files)
[04:08] <pikkachu> ActionParsnip: I feel like no
[04:09] <pikkachu> ActionParsnip: I will make a test
[04:09] <hptwhite> i have a canon pixma mp560 printer and running ubuntu 11 (i think). my printer is on wifi wpa2 and my computer is also connected wirelessly on the same network. is there a good tuorial out there i can go to, to get this figured out? i tried google, but not getting very far
[04:09] <JW1> glitsj16, yes however the file in question is on a remote machine, so I'd like to be able to connect to the remote machine via the Desktop Browser and right-click to open the file in wxmacmolplt (like I can in Windows)
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> pikkachu: yes but the file names etc will make the blank docs, you can have anything you want in there
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> duhamel: if you run:  ls ~/Desktop    do you see the file you use to access the home?
[04:09] <pikkachu> ActionParsnip: but complex types won't work I think, for example ODT files
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> hptwhite: did you try the canon site? They make debs for driver for their products some times
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> pikkachu: sure it will, try it
[04:10] <duhamel> no. i see nothing. it's empty.
[04:10] <JW1> Sorry, that should be the file browser, not the desktop browser
[04:11] <glitsj16> JW1: fair enough .. what about adding the mime-type 'application/x-log' to the .desktop file for wxmacmolplt?
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> duhamel: ok, if you run: ln -s $HOME ~/Desktop/HOME     you should see a handy link :)
[04:11] <hptwhite> ActionParsnip: getting the driver loaded isnt the issue; its getting it connected wirelessly that is. i dont know which wireless option to choose from the printer setup and even if i did, i wouldnt know how to put in the address
[04:11] <harshadura> !seen niklas
[04:12] <JW1> glitsj16, how would I go about doing that?
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> hptwhite: I'd check your manual then
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> JW1: same way you added the TextEditor   option I gave..
[04:12] <duhamel> could it be because i gave my last ubuntu install a different name?
[04:12] <JW1> ActionParsnip, but I don't see a mime type variable in the .desktop value, what is the precise syntax?
[04:12] <Exploiter> ActionParsnip, Can you tell me the exact one, because system tool > system setting does not allow me to change theme, just the aler sound and new theme is not there
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> JW1: look at some of the others, you will see the category. With you stating this sort of thing I'm doubting you did what I sugegsted earlier at all...
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> duhamel: the system name is irrelevant, you may need to chown the old data to the new user
[04:14] <JW1> ActionParsnip, no I did, because I just had to append it to the end of an existing variable, but there is no mime type variable in the .desktop file
[04:15] <duhamel> how do i do that, i just realized i can see the old name and new home name can i merge them?
[04:15] <pikkachu> ActionParsnip: it is an empty file, not an ODT or whatever, you'll need to rely on how the underlying apps would handle an empty file
[04:15] <pikkachu> ActionParsnip: LibreOffice's Calc for example shows a filter dialog for an empty file
[04:15] <glitsj16> JW1: add a new line containing 'MimeType=application/x-log' to it
[04:15] <pikkachu> ActionParsnip: we just have to use the proper app to create the model
[04:16] <hellyeah> hey
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> JW1: look for: MimeType=    in the .desktop file and add what glitsj16 suggested
[04:16] <hellyeah> i always took an error like error: spars file not allowed what does that mean
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> pikkachu: I guess, but now you know what the folder is for :)
[04:16] <glitsj16> JW1: and come to think of it .. there should always be the option to use a custom command to open your .log file with
[04:16] <pikkachu> ActionParsnip: yeah, thanks!
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: what triggers the error?
[04:17] <hellyeah> what do you mean? this occured after selecting ubuntu from grub
[04:17] <JW1> glitsj16, that is what I would think too, but I cannot find it
[04:18] <hellyeah> i saw this error like 30 secs then it went on with normal boot
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> JW1: use the search function in the text editor you are using, or just add the line in full
[04:18] <hellyeah> may be it was meaningless i dont know but i took same error 10.04 10.10 and current version
[04:18] <JW1> ActionParsnip and glitsj16 unfortunately the MimeType trick didn't work either
[04:18] <glitsj16> JW1: first choose the 'Open with other application' menu, it is there
[04:18] <JW1> glitsj16, okay did that
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: are you using btrfs?
[04:19] <hellyeah> yeah
[04:19] <hellyeah> because of btrfs
[04:19] <glitsj16> JW1: don't it show 'use a custom command' arrow below?
[04:19] <hellyeah> ?
[04:19] <JW1> glitsj16, no
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: yeah I had the same in btrfs
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/736743
[04:19] <glitsj16> JW1: strange ... what file manager are you using?
[04:20] <JW1> glitsj16, I am using the standard file browser, the icon the second from the top on the Unity toolbar
[04:21] <hellyeah> hmm i guess there is no solution yet it seems harmless
[04:21] <slicknick5181> how do i install a .package file
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/464743   has a few lines you can remove from grub.cfg but you will need to remove it each time...
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: yeah its fairly harmless as far as I know, I switched back to Ext4 though. I found btrfs to be slow
[04:22] <JW1> glitsj16, I get a button that says "Show other applications", and I click that and wxmacmolplt doesn't show up there either, and there are no arrows for selecting a custom command
[04:22] <JW1> glitsj16, I also get a "Find applications online" button and that doesn't help either
[04:22] <glitsj16> JW1: i use thunar, just checked that you are correct: nautilus (the file manager you're using doesn't have that option)
[04:22] <hellyeah> hmm slow how come? because ıof the structure btrfs use afaik ext4 use doble linked list btrfs use balance tree
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> hellyeah: no idea, just was noticably slower but I was due a reinstall so I formatted to Ext4
[04:23] <hellyeah> i gotcha
[04:24] <slicknick5181> how do I install a (dot) package file?
[04:24] <glitsj16> JW1: log out/log in seems needed for the mimetype setting to catch as well
[04:24] <KRomo> ActionParsnip, i went with godaddy :)
[04:24] <nobody1234> what is the best way to add an ubuntu machine to a windows domain.. I used likewise but it was a pain and I had issues i had to resolve with resolv.conf  by installing by openresolv
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> KRomo: good enough
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> slicknick5181:  you mean someappname.package ?
[04:25] <slicknick5181> Dr_Willis: Yes sir
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> nobody1234: http://www.youtube.com/embed/uwdlhrqy33Y?enablejsapi=1&autoplay=1&version=3&auto hide=1&iv_load_policy=3&wmode=opaque
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> slicknick5181:  i belie theres some 'autopackage' homepage with details on that. but  id suggest looking for a ppa, or other  repo with the app first.  that autopackage stuff has never worked well
[04:26] <fishbait> i ran sudo apt-get install wine now how do i install direct 3d?
[04:26] <federated_life> hey what happens if I install ubuntu along side windows from the cd if I already have a wubu installation present ?
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: its there by default
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> fishbait:  wine has directx allredy built in.
[04:26] <fishbait> ok ty
[04:26] <nobody1234> dont most programs use opengl as an option too?
[04:26] <fishbait> working on installing star trek online.
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> federated_life:   i dont think the installer looks for wubi.
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: wine is an abstraction for the directx calls in windows apps
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> !appdb
[04:27] <fishbait> oh i see
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: make sure you chack the appdb for compatibility
[04:27] <fishbait> is the a #wine?
[04:27] <federated_life> how will I select which ubuntu to startup from if theyre both listed as ubuntu
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> !wine
[04:27] <fishbait> i prefer irc in old skool ways
[04:27] <slicknick5181> Dr_Willis: Ok thanks for the advice. Have you ever heard of Xtera graphics/drawling program
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> federated_life:  boot the windows install and then elext wubi.. i imagine
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> slicknick5181:  neverheard of it
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: how do you mean?
[04:28] <federated_life> the real issue I have is that I can't shrink my windows disk even though I have 80GB free
[04:28] <rollitup> goodmorning folks
[04:28] <fishbait> i mean in my old skool ways*
[04:28] <slicknick5181> Dr_Willis: Thank you so much for ur time.. Do you have any experience with LTSP?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> federated_life: may want to chkdsk and defrag it
[04:29] <rollitup> whenever I try to do an update in Precise Pangolin , the update happens but a red exclaimation mark is shown on the top taskbar
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> federated_life:  check the disk partioning scheme. only 4 primary partions allowed.
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> slicknick5181:  never needed lstp. i just use old pcs for x terminals. :0
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: repeating the same words doesn't make it any clearer
[04:29] <fishbait> ah i was asking if wine had an irc support channel?
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> !wine | fishbait
[04:30] <slicknick5181> Dr_Willis: Makes sense to me lol.. thank you for ur time!
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: yes, #winehq
[04:30] <fishbait> ty
[04:30] <federated_life> I used auslogics to defrag...but it doesnt solve the issue..
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> federated_life: are you using windows 7?
[04:30] <federated_life> yes
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> federated_life: Windows7 can shrink its own partitions
[04:31] <federated_life> yea, from computer manager in adminstrattive tasks
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> federated_life:  but shrinkingone - wont do much good if you have 4 primary partitions in use
[04:31] <federated_life> but it doesn't allow to shirnk more than like 7GB
[04:31] <JW1> Okay, thanks all for your help.  Good night.
[04:43] <WindBuntu> something new and strange just occured in my ubuntu 12.04, i looked at the top of my screen next to the little email icon and there was  red triangle with a red exclamation point inside of it. it warned me that something sint working with updates and to do it manually. i did that and sure enough there were 3 updates, so i installed them? is this a bug?
[04:43] <WindBuntu> isn't*
[04:44] <rollitup> WindBuntu: I am experiencing the same thing and am waiting to hear for someone to help us resolve this
[04:44] <WindBuntu> it had a bit of a malware feel to it
[04:44] <WindBuntu> but it prolly isnt
[04:45] <WindBuntu> i have never seen that signal in any ubuntu OS dating back to 8.04
[04:45] <WindBuntu> or in any other buntu
[04:45] <rollitup> i guess this maybe caused by some sources not being able to update coz the output i get when doing update also includes this Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Sources                                 404  Not Found Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main i386 Packages                           404  Not Found Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Sources                                 404  Not Found Err http://ppa.launchp
[04:46] <agc93> If the update process is interrupted, it can lead to packages needing be manually updated
[04:46] <agc93> or needing dpkg to reconfigure them
[04:46] <WindBuntu> looks like we have to manually update ubuntu now to be safe
[04:46] <agc93> I don't think I'd go that far
[04:46] <rollitup> i do the updates from the terminal
[04:46] <JoseeAntonioR> rollitup: That is because the PPA doesn't exist, it was removed or you typed the addess incorrectly
[04:47] <WindBuntu> i dont trust termianl for updates anymore
[04:47] <agc93> update-manager is definitely not malware
[04:47] <WindBuntu> ive seen it freeze
[04:47] <WindBuntu> or hang
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: the PPA just won't be used, shouldn't cause issues
[04:47] <agc93> and why would you not trust terminal?
[04:47] <agc93> It's the safest way to do upgrades
[04:47] <rollitup> so do u think I should remove it from the PPA list
[04:47] <agc93> Probably a good idea rollitup
[04:47] <WindBuntu> ill never upgrade ubuntu in terminal again thats for sure
[04:47] <WindBuntu> ill just do clean installs
[04:47] <agc93> Terminal is definitely way more reliable than GUI
[04:47] <JoseeAntonioR> rollitup: If you want to, but the error won't cause malfunctions in the system
[04:48] <rollitup> ok
[04:48] <agc93> thats how I've done every upgrade since 9.10
[04:48] <WindBuntu> ive seen it hang and then just sit there for hours
[04:48] <WindBuntu> very very frustrating
[04:48] <agc93> the normal GNOME Terminal?
[04:48] <artie> Hi All, I hae a single user on my system that opens in a command line rather than the traditional gui/desktop. All the other users open into the gui normally. How do I change the settings so that all users open in gui mode?
[04:48] <Raji> Hai
[04:49] <WindBuntu> you will feel that way until it burns you a good one
[04:49] <JoseeAntonioR> artie: Have you checked you
[04:49] <agc93> Seems unlikely, as that would be indicative of the whole system hanging if the terminal session hangs
[04:49] <rollitup> also i haven't got most games that i downloaded to run, they always keep on hanging
[04:49] <agc93> artie: have you checked their session files?
[04:49] <rollitup> although i have 3 gigs of ram and an onboard Nvidia graphic card
[04:49] <JoseeAntonioR> artie: Have you checked you're using the Ubuntu theme when logging in?
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: which games?
[04:51] <Raji> I am trying to install lamp server using tasksel but its showing a dialog box and then it stops. I just 2 days old in ubuntu
[04:52] <artie> osee: I have not checked session files, not even sure what they are. Not sure how to check what theme....but user knows lss than me, it's highly unlikely they did exotic changes.
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> Raji: is the ubuntu install fully updated?
[04:53] <rollitup> 0.AD and some others , i am able to install and run small games such as Gejeweled etc
[04:53] <Raji> ActionParsnip: Yes
[04:53] <Raji> 12.04
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> Raji: the release is irrelevant, if you run:  sudo apt-get update; sydi apt-get upgrade    are you fuly updated
[04:54] <WindBuntu> but anyway i was talking about updates not upgrades
[04:54] <Raji> ActionParsnip: Yes i updated yesterday
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> Raji: ok, run the taskel command and pastebin the output please
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> Raji:  tab key. space key. and enter key to selwct stuff in the dialog?
[04:55] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: Most of the games start but they keep stuck up on the initial page and aso the mouse gets very very slow
[04:55] <rollitup> almost frozen
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: have you tried Unity2D?
[04:55] <Raji>        
[04:56] <rollitup> i think i am using Unity 2D , how can i confirm this ?
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: run:  ps -ef | grep compiz | grep -v compiz
[04:57] <hellyeah> brw
[04:57] <celthunder> well does 3d work?
[04:57] <hellyeah> ubuntu is little slow
[04:57] <federated_life> I trashed compiz, its bloated
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: if you see compiz in the output you are using 3D
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> celthunder: in what sense?
[04:58] <Raji> Dr_Willis:  i juts typed in terminal Sudo tasksel then a dialog box came and i selected lamp server then clicked enter and then i was back into terminal
[04:58] <SDX> hellyeah: You might want to try Xubuntu if Ubuntu is slow.
[04:58] <federated_life> Im on xfce, its crap too
[04:58] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: does not give any output when i run that line
[04:59] <federated_life> just buy better hardware and os x
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: then you are using 2D :)
[04:59] <rollitup> :)
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: do you have 3D accelleration configured on your video hardware?
[04:59] <jazzyy> My install has a set size for /home/, is there any way to make it larger?
[04:59] <rollitup> no I haven't done that
[04:59] <Raji> Dr_Willis:  Now its showing tasksel:aptitude failed(100
[05:00] <rollitup> the only thing after installing Ubuntu was installed the proprietary drivers which was prompted to me
[05:00] <Raji> )
[05:00] <rollitup> and added the one's that came as Recommended
[05:01] <SDX> jazzyy, if you boot from a LiveCD you should be able to resize most, if not all of your partitions.
[05:01] <SDX> You don't have to reinstall from the LiveCD, just use the partition editor and then reboot.
[05:01] <rodhash> guys... need little help... wpa_supplicant is being initialised by init but I just installed it and didn't configure init.... under /etc/init or /etc/inet.d/ I found thong related to wpa
[05:01] <jazzyy> SDX: and that can resize specifically /home/? My partition is huge but the /home/ folder is limited to 30GB
[05:02] <SDX> jazzyy: Yes.
[05:02] <jazzyy> alright thanks!
[05:02] <Raji> ActionParsnip: tasksel:aptitude failed(100)
[05:03] <SDX> You're welcome.
[05:03] <cappicard> good evening. what's a good way to convert a compressed swf file to mp4 or avi?
[05:03] <cappicard> i'm using 12.04
[05:06] <jagginess> cappicard, swf isnt a video format
[05:07] <mi3> hello!
[05:07] <cappicard> well, i want to convert the flv contained inside it to avi
[05:07] <jagginess> cappicard, you're probably thinking of capturing the .flv stream.. there's probably tools for that..
[05:08] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: I haven't configured the 3d hardware accelearation for my graphic card
[05:08] <docvell> there is an add-on for Firefox
[05:08] <jagginess> cappicard, no need to convert .flv if you just want to play it (vlc can)
[05:08] <cappicard> but the problem is that it's compressed
[05:08] <docvell> for downloading .flv or making it an .mp4
[05:08] <cappicard> vlc and mplayer can't play compressed flv files
[05:09] <mi3> I have a dual boot operating system consisting of windows and ubuntu, I have two ntfs partitions of windows, and 1 ext4 partition of ubuntu, I intend to replace those two partitions with ext4, and remove windows entirely. Also, I need full control over the newly created ext4 partitions, can someone suggest how can I do all that ?
[05:09] <jagginess> cappicard, you have a sample? i think i've been able to playback any .flv
[05:10] <jagginess> mi3, gparted live cd
[05:10] <mi3> jagginess, I already have gparted on my ubuntu pc :D
[05:10] <cappicard> http://saiya-jin.dyndns-home.com/~cappicard/9-11-01/9-11-01-remembered.fla
[05:10] <jagginess> mi3, why not merge all3 into 1?
[05:11] <cappicard> http://saiya-jin.dyndns-home.com/~cappicard/9-11-01/9-11-01-remembered.swf is the flash file
[05:11] <jagginess> mi3, you also need swap (type 83) partition
[05:11] <mi3> jagginess, I need 2 seperate partitions to preserve some data such as movies and songs, so that , in case the home partition goes berserk, I can restore my data from that
[05:11] <Tux_1> and reinstall grub
[05:11] <mi3> jagginess, I have swap partition
[05:11] <jagginess> mi3, ?
[05:11] <mi3> jagginess, what ?
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: could use a swap file instead :)
[05:12] <mi3> Tux_1, you were suggesting something , sir ?
[05:12] <mi3> HI ActionParsnip !!
[05:12] <mi3> ActionParsnip, how are you , sir :D
[05:12] <jagginess> mi3, well it doesnt make sense only 1 partition goes berserk.. it's usually it's either a few sectors or the whole drive (I started using Raid1 a few months back..)
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> mi3: tired, you?
[05:12] <mi3> ActionParsnip, having fun xD
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> mi3: awesome
[05:13] <Tux_1> yea, have the install dvd ready to reinstall grub
[05:13] <jagginess> mi3, /home and multi partitions are made when you have thousands of users..
[05:13] <docvell> I used to have a dual boot with Windows 7 and Ubuntu 11.10 and later on decided to start fresh and install Ubuntu 12.04 full
[05:13] <jagginess> mi3, keep it simple :)
[05:13] <mi3> jagginess, but if I create the 2 partitions, will it be given the root permissions ? or will the limited account user still store data on it ?
[05:14] <jagginess> mi3, i thought you have only 1 ext4 partition
[05:14] <mi3> jagginess, yes I do
[05:14] <mi3> jagginess, I was talking about that permissions AFTER creating those partitions :D
[05:14] <jagginess> mi3, so backup your user data to usb.. then try to merge two blank/unallocated partition space to the ext4
[05:14] <neuroexploiter> guess whos back back agian
[05:15] <SDX> Woo.  Just finished downloading Xubuntu.
[05:15] <mi3> jagginess, I dont want to merge all 3 into 1, I need 2 ext4 partitions
[05:15] <mi3> SDX, YAYY
[05:15] <jagginess> mi3, of course have a ubuntu install cd at hand, you'll need to re-reun the grub-install command
[05:15] <SilentDis> SDX: what does xubuntu use as it's wm now?
[05:16] <mi3> so, jagginess err my writer is damaged, I threw it against the wall in anger xD
[05:16] <jagginess> mi3, you cant convert ntfs to ext4.. thats why i say to backup
[05:16] <SDX> I assumed it used Xfce WM.
[05:16] <SDX> xfwm4.
[05:16] <SilentDis> SDX: it's been a while, so I didn't know if they'd change or anything :)
[05:17] <Raji> While installing lamp server i am getting an errr message "Tasksel: aptitude failed(100)"
[05:17] <sobersabre> hi.
[05:17] <sobersabre> I'm trying to add udev rule: http://dpaste.com/758889/
[05:17] <sobersabre> need some feedback.
[05:17] <mi3> jagginess, I will give you a screenshot, wait
[05:20] <jagginess> cappicard, .fla isnt a compressed .flv stream -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWF#Related_file_formats_and_extensions
[05:21] <subcool_> seriously?
[05:21] <subcool_> SOMEONE
[05:22] <subcool_> Do i really have to dl this in non-3d?
[05:22] <subcool_> HOW do i watch this movie!@?!
[05:22] <photonwave> Hi, I'm a total linux/ubuntu newbie, can someone direct me as to how I can upgrade by kernel?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> hmm:
[05:22] <subcool_> Dr_Willis,
[05:22] <subcool_> your smart too
[05:22] <subcool_> help me
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> photonwave:  use the package manager tools they will upgrade the whole system to the latest versions in the repos
[05:23] <subcool_> PLEASE!
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> please what?
[05:23] <subcool_> i dl'ed a movie labeld 3d
[05:23] <subcool_> and - well it is showing in VLC in double vision, side by side
[05:23] <subcool_> how do i disable
[05:23] <subcool_> "3d"
[05:23] <photonwave> Dr_Willis from what I understand, the newest Ubuntu distro doesn't come with the newest kernel. If I use the package manager tools, will it upgrade to the newest kernel, or just the kernel that's included with the latest release of the Ubuntu distro?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> that sounds like 3d to me..
[05:24] <cappicard> but  the .swf contains the video i want to convert.
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> photonwave:  stick with whats in the repos is how it works.. unles syou have some real major need for a newer version.. its best to stay with whats int he repos
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> subcool_:  seen where dvdfab can convert a 3d movie to 2d.. i belive.. but never used it
[05:25] <photonwave> Dr_Willis I have a major need to upgrade my kernel, as my machine is rebooting every time I shutdown, and a newer kernel might solve the problem
[05:25] <jagginess> mi3, it says that because a "mounted" filesystem is preventing the disk partitioner from working on it. So "unmount" that partition in use.
[05:25] <wkay> hi there; sorry to disturb..; I got a problem & Im here to find some help..
[05:25] <subcool_> Dr_Willis, :(
[05:25] <mi3> jagginess, its already been unmounted :D
[05:25] <subcool_> so there isnt some like disable thing i can do?
[05:25] <jagginess> mi3, what did i tell you like 10 minutes ago?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> photonwave:  or it could be some less drastic acpi/power manager fix.  or the next kernel update may fix the issue
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> photonwave: I'd test RAM first
[05:26] <subcool_> ActionParsnip, your smart too- please help
[05:26] <linuxuz3r> hi
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> subcool_: sup?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> subcool_:  never noticed.. i would be suprised if there is.
[05:26] <mi3> jagginess, what ?
[05:26] <sobersabre> guys, when you're trying to help ME, please don't interrupt each other: speak one by one.
[05:26] <sobersabre> :)
[05:26] <subcool_> I have jon carter in 3D..
[05:26] <jagginess> "<jagginess> mi3, gparted live cd"
[05:26]  * sobersabre needs help with udev...
[05:26] <jagginess> "live cd"
[05:26] <subcool_> VLC is viewing it in side by side
[05:26] <subcool_> i would like to watch it - in normal vieiwing
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> subcool_: do other players play it ok?
[05:26] <mi3> jagginess, ok
[05:26] <mi3> jagginess, thanks :D
[05:26] <subcool_> ActionParsnip, idk.....
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> subcool_: not thought to try....
[05:27] <SDX> Cover half of your monitor with a sheet of paper.
[05:27] <subcool_> i only have vlc and dragon....
[05:27] <photonwave> Dr_Willis any pointers on how to do a acpi/power manager fix would be appreciated. Also any links that would guide a newbie on how to upgrade their kernel would be appreciated.
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> 3d movies dont wwork for me. ;)
[05:27] <subcool_> i hate dragon
[05:27] <jagginess> mi3, you'll still need to know what's hooking that partition.. to be safest, it's always best to use partitioning outside the OS
[05:27] <wkay> Im using ub10.04 . im trying to set the "Super_L" key to startup terminal ..using this command "gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/run_command_terminal --type string "Super_L"" but didnot work ..someone can help me
[05:27] <wkay> ?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> subcool_: try dragon would be a natural thing to try then, wouldnt it
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> photonwave:  check the forums and askubntu for your exact make/model device. theres also some ppa's that might have newer kernels. but those are unsupported by this channel.
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> wkay: if you use terminal a lot I can recommend installing guake
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> photonwave:  'newbie upgradeing kernel' is like  'newbie learning to defuse a bomb'  not a good idea
[05:28] <subcool_> ActionParsnip, Dragon does the same, but massivily shakey
[05:28] <mi3> jagginess, I will find out about that later, after I have done a clean installation of ubuntu :D
[05:28] <mi3> jagginess, I am doing that
[05:29] <mi3> jagginess, but thanks :D
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> subcool_: are there options in either player to accommodate the file?
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> subcool_: have you asked in #mencoder or #ffmpeg
[05:30] <wkay> :) thanks ActionParsnip ; Ive used the windows key for years.. already used to it.. Ill try ur advice .. ; but how can I set that key?
[05:30] <brophat> it is possible to backup an entire hard drive so that when you install a new hardrive you can put the back up onto the new hardrive and the computer will boot and be exactly the same as it was before the new hard drive?
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> brophat:  you can image the hd completely with dd if you want an exact clone.
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> !backup
[05:30] <brophat> Dr_Willis would you happen to know if the same thing is possible in windows?
[05:30] <photonwave> ActionParsnip I have dual channel  4G ram
[05:30] <subcool_> ActionParsnip, Dr_Willis hey- listen i hate to push this.. but ... please? im really really not in a great state right now. The most important person to me in the world died today.
[05:30] <SDX> You could try making an iso image of the file, but it might not work.
[05:31] <photonwave> Dr_Willis thanks for the pointers
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> subcool_:  i have never even owned a 3d movie - or 3d video file.    no idea how they work
[05:31] <subcool_> ActionParsnip, i have no idea if there are thing in theplaye rto accomodate this, and no- i havent asked anyplace else
[05:31] <photonwave> Dr_Willis this bug is really frustrating, as I bought a new machine and was hoping to have it work without any major problems
[05:31] <subcool_> Dr_Willis, neither have i..
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> subcool_:  other then seeing  dvdfab  mention some 3d-:2d converter feature.. thats all i know on the topic
[05:32] <subcool_> Dr_Willis, i just tried to ap-get it... not there
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> photonwave:  often with very 'bran d new, just came out' machines, theres patches that slowly make it into the kernel tree. so eventyally there may be a normal uupodate that fixs the issue
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> subcool_:  its a windows app...
[05:33] <subcool_> Dr_Willis, ouch.
[05:33] <subcool_> appears im not watchi this movie tonight
[05:33] <fizyplankton> lol subcool_
[05:33] <subcool_> fizyplankton, ya
[05:34] <subcool_> i spent 4 days dl'ing this movie to---- to delete it
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> subcool_:  it was mentioned that ffmpeg or mencoder Might be able to convert it.. tried doing any research on that  method yet?
[05:34] <subcool_> no- just finished d;ed it about 5 hour ago- when i foudn out my family member died
[05:34] <subcool_> not mcuh time to research it
[05:36] <subcool_> OPk- thanks
[05:36] <subcool_> later
[05:36] <subcool_> i have mourning to induce
[05:36] <subcool_> ill see u guys in a week or two
[05:38]  * Dr_Willis dosent have the hart to tell him that i hesrd that movie sort of stinks... ;)
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> subcool_: maybe you should buy films...
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> think i saw it at teh redbox koisk today also..
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> photonwave: why is the ram amount of interest?
[05:39] <photonwave> oh sorry, I assumed it was..
[05:39] <Blah1> is there a very small iso i can use to mount existing fs and update root forgotten root pw?   grub is broken on this system (blank screen instead of menu) so i can't use that option to boot into single user.  ubuntu remix is what i'm using now but it's a couple hundred megabytes and using it over IP is kinda slow
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> photonwave: no, if you are getting random reboots then a memtest is a good first step
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> Blah1:  tinycorelinux = 10mb :)
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> Blah1: setting root pw isn't supported, needed or advised
[05:40] <photonwave> ActionParsnip I see, I'll check to see how to do that
[05:40] <Viking667> What application can record an audio stream both from my microphone and the audio from a program such as minecraft?
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> photonwave: hold shift at boot, select memtest
[05:40] <Blah1> ActionParsnip, oh ya that's right i meant the ubuntu user ;)
[05:40] <Blah1> Dr_Willis, i'll try that one out.  thx
[05:40] <photonwave> ActionParsnip please note, it's not a random reboot, it always reboots after I shutdown
[05:40] <photonwave> ActionParsnip in case that changes any thing
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> Blah1: hold shift at bppt, select recovery mode, select root and you can set your password there
[05:41] <Blah1> ActionParsnip, what's 'bppt'?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Viking667:  i think there  was discussion of somthing like that last night.. its a bit hard to record both at the same time. but i think there was mention of using the pulse volumecontrol/tools to   let a recorder record both
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> Blah1: boot, typo
[05:41] <Viking667> so, his user doesn't have permission to shut down, but does have permission to reboot? I don't get that.
[05:41] <Blah1> ah ok.  i didn't know about that shift trick!  thanks
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> photonwave: if you run:  sudo shutdown -h now    does it turn off?
[05:42] <rodhash> hi
[05:42] <Himura> What am i missing here? I did a ssh-keygen copied the .pub key and pasted it at the authorized_keys at the remote machine, but still cant authenticate thgrough the keys.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> amazeing the # of ways you can shutdown or reboot a linux box. :)
[05:42] <rodhash> how can I register in some group that looks to be protected?
[05:42] <Viking667> I'm trying to use "gnome-sound-recorder", but I can't balance the stereo mix against the microphone. Either I get just the application at normal volume, or I get seriously suppressed volume (i.e. 5%) on application, and too much volume on microphone.
[05:42] <photonwave> ActionParsnip no it reboots after the shutdown, like other cases
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: indeed, plus the subtler ones like chainsaw
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> photonwave: same as a new user too?
[05:42] <glitsj16> Viking667: audio-recorder is very nice
[05:43] <Viking667> thank you. I'll look at that. Is that just the package name, or the name of the binary to execute?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> photonwave:  ive seen bios setings that hafe the pc auto power back up after power failure, or similer.. that might be confused and causing the issue
[05:43] <glitsj16> Viking667: both :)
[05:43] <photonwave> ActionParsnip to be honest, I'm nto sure if I tried that exact command ("sudo shutdown -h now"). I can give it a try now. I don't know how to do it as a new user either..
[05:43] <Viking667> glitsj16: weird. I don't see it in apt-cache's search output
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> photonwave: try the command first, then make a new user if it's bad, log on as the new user and try shutting down there
[05:44] <glitsj16> Viking667: i might have gotten it from a PPA, please hold, i'll check
[05:44] <photonwave> ok I'll try it now
[05:45] <Viking667> sigh. Figures.
[05:48] <glitsj16> Viking667: https://launchpad.net/~osmoma/+archive/audio-recorder
[05:50] <Viking667> ah. I'll add that and see what packages he has.
[05:50] <Viking667> thank you.
[05:51] <glitsj16> Viking667: np
[05:51] <Viking667> meh. "apt-add-repository thaturl" gets me .... yeah. I'll check the sources.d/ out.
[05:51] <Himura> can anybody help me with ssh connections with keys authentication?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> Himura:  about all ive ever done was ssh-keygen, then ssh-copy-id remotebox
[05:52] <Viking667> how do I ACTUALLY add that repo so that it imports the keys for me?
[05:52] <ubuntu_> ubuntu
[05:52] <Viking667> this silly thing doesn't have a man page for the apt-add-repository command. Sigh.
[05:52] <Himura> Dr_Willis: do i have to set something else at the remote box?
[05:52] <bazhang> !addppa | Viking667
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> apt-add-repository --help    perhaps?
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: use add-apt-repository and the ppa address#
[05:53] <glitsj16> Viking667: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:osmoma/audio-recorder
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> Himura:  other then installing ssh server? not that ive ever had to do]
[05:53] <Viking667> heh. thank you.
[05:53] <weebl-_> My friend is trying to install ubuntu and has a blinking underscore has anyone ever heard of this?
[05:54] <weebl-_> I've installed ubuntu on about 30 machines and never had this issue
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | weebl-_
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> weebl-_: what video chip does the system use
[05:55] <weebl-_> nvidia
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> weebl-_: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[05:58] <gartral> hello all
[05:58]  * Dr_Willis wonders what would happen if you do 'nomodeset nouveau.blacklist=1'   ;)
[05:58] <weebl-_> where?
[05:58] <weebl-_> its installing from a cd
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> weebl-_:  the menus ont  he cd early in bootup has the feature. that nomodset guide has screenshots of doing it
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> you see a little man=keyboard image. you hit sshift, space, esc, or somthing.. ;) and it getes to an options page
[05:59] <gartral> can I get some help the lowlatency kernel and IDJC? I keep getting xruns every minute of so..
[06:01] <poddmotux> ubuntu 12.04 : installing as xen dom0 host hangs on reboot. Hypervisor boots then dom0 kernel complains that sysfs in unavailable. Any ideas?
[06:02] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, any1 have the gnome-magnifier installed? I need to known the command to run the app...
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> compiz has a zoom  feature  ;)
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> CrazyGangster:  use synaptic to see what files the package installed. it should show what binaries it installed
[06:06] <CrazyGangster> Dr_Willis: i think the binary is in /usr/bin/magnifier but when i execute on the terminal i get a bunch of "we should clip at -196, -101"
[06:08] <rawfodog> I'm trying to batch convert some pictures with imagemagick but am getting this error ... "no decode delegate for this image format" for my jpegs. What do I do ?
[06:16] <poddmotux> does apparmor place nicely with xen dom0?
[06:17] <freedomrun_> help, can`t report bugs anymore! reinstalling apport doesn`t help, does anyone knows how to reactivate this functionality??
[06:19] <bobweaver> freedomrun purge then reinstall ubuntu-bug ?
[06:31] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, any1 have the gnome-magnifier installed? I need to known the command to run the app...
[06:32] <Viking667> gnome-mag
[06:33] <Viking667> ... install that package. Not sure if the binary name matches the package name.
[06:36] <glitsj16> Viking667: regarding the audio-recorder package ... just wondering if you tried it and if so, what are your experiences? I'm preparing a review and all feedback is welcome, so feel free to pm me
[06:37] <Viking667> heh. I haven't even managed to try it out yet, give me a chance. I've been hammering keys non-stop since I got here.
[06:38] <glitsj16> Viking667: no problem :) i hang out here often enough
[06:38] <Viking667> lol. good to know. I pop in when I want a question answered. But I rarely get it answered, and end up answering about nineteen other things in the interim
[06:38] <glitsj16> heh, that's bound to happen yes
[06:39] <lizzin> can apt-get be used to install old versions of apps?
[06:39] <lizzin> ...need to rollback to fix a few things
[06:40] <glitsj16> !pinning | lizzin
[06:41] <glitsj16> lizzin: synaptic makes things like that somewhat easier if you're familiar with that
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> lizzin:  whats broken?
[06:42] <lizzin> Dr_Willis: sbt 0.11.3 scala 2.9.1 and lifty 1.7.5-snapshot don't seem to work together
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> dident you install some of those via .deb files earlier today?
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> !info sbt
[06:43] <lizzin> Dr_Willis: i installed the deb file in order to add the repository
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> so they came from some ppa?
[06:44] <lizzin> Dr_Willis: ppa?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[06:44] <lizzin> oh right
[06:45] <lizzin> yes, it came from teh typesafe debian repository
[06:45] <lizzin> the
[06:45] <lizzin> ubottu: thanks
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> debian?  what is the exact repository they came from?
[06:45] <lizzin> glitsj16: ha, thanks
[06:45] <lizzin> http://search.maven.org
[06:45] <lizzin> err
[06:45] <lizzin> http://apt.typesafe.com/
[06:46] <lizzin> Dr_Willis:
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> if they were made for debian.. thats not quite the same as for ubuntu. You may want to see if thers an actual Ubuntu PPA for the tools.
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> adding debian repos to a ubuntu system. can  break things
[06:46] <lizzin> i don't think thats the issue
[06:47] <lizzin> i checked my osx system and it's showing the same issue now
[06:48] <lizzin> Dr_Willis: http://hpaste.org/69876
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> bbl. got a job to do..
[06:48] <lizzin> ok
[06:48] <lizzin> pretty sure it is simply a version issue
[06:53] <taylor_> Is anyone using gnome classic?
[06:53] <taylor_> how can i customize the panel at the bottom
[06:53] <rawfodog> im trying to batch convert some images in ubuntu, I get this error 'no decode delegate for this image format'. I think I need to install some restrictted jpeg stuff, does anyone know how to fix this issue ?
[06:53] <Viking667> you hold down the Alt key, and right-click on the panel
[06:53] <taylor_> Viking667: yes .. nothing happens
[06:53] <Viking667> Choose Properties.
[06:54] <Viking667> weird. You do Alt-Rightclick?
[06:54] <taylor_> yes..
[06:54] <taylor_> if i alt click i can drag the panel around
[06:54] <Viking667> not alt-leftclick.
[06:54] <Viking667> Alt-RIGHTclick
[06:54] <taylor_> right ... if i do alt right click nothing happens
[06:54] <taylor_> is it compiz?
[06:54] <Viking667> hm. could be.
[06:55] <Viking667> $ ps ax | grep metacity
[06:55] <Viking667> err, scratch that
[06:55] <taylor_> im using compiz  i know...
[06:55] <rex> hey i need some help partitioning my disk for ubuntu/windows boot with a second partition for /home can someone help me
[06:55] <Viking667> ah, right. Tried right-click on the panel?
[06:55] <Viking667> (without the alt key)
[06:55] <taylor_> yes.. nothing happens
[06:55] <Viking667> ANd Control?
[06:55] <taylor_> still nothing...
[06:55] <Viking667> i.e. Control-leftclick,  Control-rightclick,
[06:56] <Viking667> what about Middle-click?
[06:56] <taylor_> i actually have a middle click button .. i tried it .. nothing happens
[06:56] <Viking667> You can get to some aspects of panel configuring if you've got gconf-editor installed, but that doesn't work for everything.
[06:56] <taylor_> im starting not to like gnome classic...
[06:57] <taylor_> it hides alot of my notification icons too
[06:57] <Viking667> heh. I couldn't get to like Unity, much as I would have liked.
[06:57] <taylor_> i might switch to linux mint see what they've got going on
[06:58] <taylor_> GOT IT!! its super + alt + right click
[06:58] <taylor_> that was an ordeal
[06:59] <Viking667> wow. What's "super"? Windows?
[06:59] <taylor_> yes
[06:59] <Viking667> heh. Figures. Gotta kick ol compiz in the fork to get what you want.
[06:59] <Viking667> I don't use compiz here, I use metacity
[06:59] <C-S-B> Ironic, seeing how un-super windows is.
[06:59] <taylor_> guess so..
[06:59] <taylor_> thats what they always call it
[07:00] <snyp1> How can I install the haskell package on ubuntu? can anyone help me, i am a newbie?
[07:00] <Jordan_U> Viking667: It's the key that's wearing a cape.
[07:00] <snyp1> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/quantal/haskell-cabal-install this package specifically.
[07:01] <taylor_> is there a way i can add the system menu back
[07:04] <snyp1> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/quantal/haskell-cabal-install  how do i install this in ubuntu?
[07:04] <Viking667> taylor_: no idea, sorry. I'm missing that as of 11.10 myself
[07:05] <Viking667> there's a system inside the applications on my ubuntu
[07:05] <Viking667> sorry, "System Tools" menu.
[07:05] <taylor_> i wonder if its possible to get it back the old way
[07:06] <sidvee_> getting the error "cp: omitting directory `XYZ/'" with executing "cp" command
[07:11] <StarryNight> hey would anyone recommend running nvidia in linux?
[07:11] <fleakite> generally, intel has better drivers. nvidia is better than ati though.
[07:12] <fleakite> just google for your model number and read a few experiences before deciding
[07:12] <Blue1> fleakite: as metallica would say -- sad but true
[07:13] <StarryNight> i am using intel on my laptop which is like u said np i am usinging nvidia gt 520 on my tower when i isnatll ubuntu i ned to do some tweaks but after it is installed i like it
[07:13] <smookey> Hey! in 10.04 i had setup a few gconf rules (proxy and so on), do you guys know where to place enties that will affect dconf? i mean where is the "/usr/share/gconf/defaults" of dconf? How do i make sure that policys are set without using gsetting all the time
[07:13] <fishcooker> why StarryNight
[07:14] <StarryNight> i dont do ati u really cant upgrade drivers especially in windows i get the black screen of error but when i set nomode setup and then upgrade my first time boot i can download the drivers with no problems
[07:15] <sidvee_> [OT] am using webchat.freenode.net , is there anyway I can filter the content here. I don't want to see who is getting disconnecting,or leaving or connection.
[07:15] <fishcooker> me 2 here StarryNight
[07:16] <dontknow> i am wondering if it is possible to watch mkv files using hardware acceleration with corei5 internal gpu?
[07:16] <StarryNight> but i love it even thou i have problems with install i have less issues with linux than i did with windows
[07:18] <miss_ubuntu_> question : command `find . -name *.xls` fails , filenames contain spaces ...
[07:19] <miss_ubuntu_> question : py_xls2txt `find . -name *.xls` fails , filenames contain spaces ...
[07:19] <StarryNight> fishcooker i been using linux for 2 years and i like it
[07:19] <dontknow> someone can tell me about current intel core i cpu's situation. its internal gpu working well with linux?
[07:20] <mckang> in #coffeenix
[07:20] <StarryNight> i am using using i5 second generation cpu with intel graphics and been testest on my machines with kubuntu ubuntu and linux mint with no issues
[07:20] <DJones> dontknow: I have a 2 i3 processor laptops and they work without problems, I can't say anything in general, just that those two machines are fine
[07:20] <StarryNight> me neither my works excellent
[07:21] <dontknow> StarryNight, DJones those cpu's have official intel gpu drivers? or using open source?
[07:21] <DJones> dontknow: Mine are just using default ubuntu drivers
[07:22] <StarryNight> yea defult drivers
[07:22] <dontknow> i see, thanks.
[07:22] <StarryNight> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/weirdchars.html explanation for long file names
[07:22] <StarryNight> never had to install any other drivers
[07:24] <StarryNight> with nvidia it is other story mint crashed after installing drivers
[07:24] <StarryNight> but ubuntu does not
[07:25] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, how i kill fullscreen flashplayer in chromium?
[07:25] <StarryNight> omg u use chromium?
[07:25] <CrazyGangster> yes why?
[07:25] <CrazyGangster> u use chrome?
[07:25] <StarryNight> nothing but grief i use firefox
[07:26] <StarryNight> no chrome either
[07:26] <CrazyGangster> oh ok
[07:26] <miss_ubuntu_> question : py_xls2txt `find . -name *.xls` fails , filenames contain spaces ... Resolved  command arguments to be given in ""
[07:26] <dontknow> CrazyGangster, push esc?
[07:27] <StarryNight> never had any problems with it but i last time used it used i know simple thing but it worked for me only cntrl-alt-del
[07:27] <aquanova2000> Hello all, I am using ubuntu 12.04 and check the issue with firefox and chrom and same problem, unclickable flash player settings when need to allow my camera and mic, any solution?
[07:27] <miss_ubuntu_> question Resolved : py_xls2txt `find . -name *.xls` fails , filenames contain spaces ... Resolved  command arguments to be given in ""
[07:27] <CrazyGangster> dontknow: thats impossible when flas gets frozen
[07:27] <miss_ubuntu_> new question: how can i give " " for a list of arguments in a command?
[07:27] <StarryNight> what camera are you using?
[07:28] <aquanova2000> USB camera logitech
[07:28] <glitsj16> CrazyGangster: run 'xkill' in a terminal and you can click on what you want killed
[07:28] <CrazyGangster> i have to switch to text mode ctrl+f
[07:28] <StarryNight> yea thats what i use to never tried it with java only with skype
[07:28] <CrazyGangster> *ctrl+f1
[07:28] <C-S-B> aquanova2000: I don't know of any fix for that, but you can whitelist apps so you can use your webcam using the flashplayer settings here: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html
[07:29] <CrazyGangster> glitsj16: i will check
[07:29] <StarryNight> u use cheeze for ofline video
[07:30] <aquanova2000> I know the whitelist from macromedia, but I dont want my users to go through this too, is it a bug in chrome or ubuntu
[07:30] <CrazyGangster> glitsj16: xkill dont work in text mode
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> aquanova2000:  for unclickable flash player settings. ive heard you can  have a flash video go fullscreen. then you can  use the settings
[07:31] <CrazyGangster> i have to kill the flash player process
[07:31] <C-S-B> aquanova2000: it's been there since I've known. I've never seen a fix, would love to have it fixed
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> i doubt if flash issues will ever getg fixed..since adobe dosent really care to fix them.
[07:32] <C-S-B> Dr_Willis: and tbf, we don't care about it.
[07:32] <C-S-B> shame website designers dont get the idea...
[07:32] <gogeta> Dr_Willis: and they droped flash linux
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> give it a year or so.. flash will vanish like real player has. ;)
[07:33] <Blue1> Dr_Willis: oh the smurfing problem in youtube?
[07:33] <StarryNight> u still use real player?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> youtube color messed up = disable hardware accell in the flash settings. ;) or use html5 setting
[07:33]  * Blue1 applauds Dr_w
[07:33] <gogeta> Dr_Willis: real is back on mobile and quite good
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> StarryNight:  seen people ask about real player in here about once a month  - more during baseball seasaon. it seems that the MLB.com site still uses it.
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> gogeta:  they decided to not drop mobil flash?
[07:34] <Blue1> Dr_Willis: i went to a prior version.  http://pkill-9.com/de-smurfing-youtube-or-people-youtube-blue/
[07:34] <StarryNight> damn real player on linux?
[07:34] <StarryNight> never needed to use it
[07:34] <gogeta> Dr_Willis: they droped mobile flash to
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> Blue1:  i just download the flash vieos.. then watcch them ;)
[07:35] <Blue1> Dr_Willis: yup that works too.
[07:35] <aquanova2000> so whats the alternative to transmit your cam over your website besides flash?
[07:35] <gogeta> Dr_Willis: adobe kboes html5 is going to kill it.
[07:36] <Blue1> Dr_Willis: from what I hear tell, they will never fix it.  I hope there is a 19th level of hell just for them.
[07:36] <C-S-B> aquanova2000: video stream?
[07:36] <aquanova2000> yes
[07:36] <C-S-B> no, that.
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> theres ways to streaam video - other then flash. :)
[07:36] <C-S-B> straight up mpeg.
[07:36] <CrazyGangster> need help to kill flash in text mode...
[07:36] <gogeta> Blue1: html5
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> CrazyGangster:  kill -9 the pidofthething
[07:36] <Blue1> gogeta: can't get here fast enough
[07:37] <Blue1> CrazyGangster: kill -9 (the song)  http://pkill-9.com/monzy-kill-9-nerdcore/
[07:38] <gogeta> Blue1: you can stream in html5 aruldy it just lacks ads why many sites are not yet
[07:38] <Blue1> gogeta: how would I do that?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> 'lacking ads' is a feature. ;)
[07:39] <Amador> hola!
[07:39] <gogeta> Blue1: just get s streaming app that supports it
[07:39] <Amador> your mother
[07:40] <CrazyGangster> Dr_Willis: doesn't work with "killall chromium-browse"
[07:40] <Amador> you are a ashole
[07:40] <gogeta> !es
[07:40] <CrazyGangster> is the browser im playing flash
[07:40] <Blue1> gogeta: right and that is what I am asking.  what is the name of such a streaming app?
[07:40] <dontknow> ati hd2400 video playing performance sucks
[07:40] <dontknow> with catalyst
[07:41] <Amador> with yout mother
[07:41] <fidel> gogeta: i doubt that its a pure language issue with him ;)
[07:41] <dontknow> with open source it is good
[07:41] <fidel> !ops > Amador
[07:41] <fidel> erm
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> ;0
[07:41] <fidel> !ops
[07:42] <Amador> fuck you !
[07:42] <Amador> mother fucking
[07:42] <DJones> Amador: Stop that
[07:42] <Sw33NY> !kick Amador
[07:42] <Amador> DJones your moher eat my shit every day
[07:42] <Sw33NY> !op
[07:42] <gogeta> fidel: willis is a op
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> this is why you shouldent let your 8 yr olds into irc,., and i am not an op..
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> i just dont have a life...
[07:43] <Sw33NY> :)
[07:43] <gogeta> lol
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> i am ircing from work. on my cell phone. so i cna hang out here all day. :)
[07:43] <fidel> via cell phone sounds ....not perfect ...but we are getting OT
[07:44] <gogeta> Dr_Willis: doing the same thing
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> most likelyuu that wont be able to do that any  more after  the 25th,. changeing shifts
[07:44] <Naero> Hello.
[07:44] <Naero> Can anyone provide some assistance with using alias commands on XChat?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> android phone + ssh = very usefull. too bad i cant find a better ssh client for android
[07:45] <gogeta> andorid + teamviwer
[07:46] <Naero> If anyone has the know-how for executing multi-channel commands on XChat, it'd be appreciated.
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Naero:  the xchat docs  are decently well done at their homepage. and theres the xchat channels. but we can try to help i guess
[07:46] <fidel> Naero: join #xchat
[07:46] <Naero> Thanks.
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> I use weechat these days
[07:46] <gogeta> yaaic
[07:47] <fidel> irssi - guess we mentioned all freaky solutions now ;)
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> android coulkkd definatly use somebetter irc and ssh clients
[07:47] <gogeta> Dr_Willis: yaaic lol
[07:47] <StarryNight> anyone uses windows phone or zune?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> be neat to see what happens with  that Ubuntu Phone.if  it ever gets here
[07:48] <fidel> StarryNight: this question sounds way offtopic
[07:48] <glitsj16> CrazyGangster: next option ... inside chromium click the wrench icon, select 'view background pages' and try closing the tab and or flash plugin
[07:49] <StarryNight> actually no cause i dont see many ppl with windows none i should say and zune
[07:49] <C-S-B> Dr_Willis: I had the N900, that was an amazing sysadmin phone.
[07:50] <C-S-B> Dr_Willis: full keyboard and proper linux.
[07:50] <StarryNight> ppl use android for phones and ipods (which has unix code in it)
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> using a Blue toothkeybord here.  some keys  dont work right for me over 'connectbot' on android and ssh.
[07:51] <C-S-B> StarryNight: Android has a linux kernel...
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> so you   may notice i cant do some bash commands properly  ;)
[07:51] <C-S-B> Dr_Willis: that could be down to skill, not hardware. lol
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> the greater then and less thena keys give me  a colon and semicolan
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> no backtick or tilda either
[07:52] <C-S-B> Dr_Willis: is that not just keyboard layout?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> normal ; : key works..
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> so what layout would have the identical characers on 2 keys :)
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> and no tilda/backtick
[07:54] <C-S-B> Dr_Willis: I'm going to blame America. Their layout is frankly crazy.
[07:54] <C-S-B> '@' doesnt belong there.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> C-S-B:  its not a layout issue. rest of the keys are all correct. just the ;: and tilda/backtick..  are goofy.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> F kleys dont work at all either.
[07:55] <C-S-B> Dr_Willis: I'm sticking to my '@' comment.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> so its Bluetooth -: android -: connectbot -: ssh      couldbe an issue in any of those layers
[07:56] <C-S-B> Dr_Willis: have you eliminated connectbot?
[07:56] <gogeta> Dr_Willis: check out hacker keybord for andorid it has all the keys
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> connectbot is the only ssh client i have
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> gogeta:  im using a real phyusical keyboard. :)
[07:56] <C-S-B> Dr_Willis: but it's not the only app you can type in...
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> made for android tablets
[07:57] <fidel> Dr_Willis: could you tell me the name of that keyboard for android? i guess its just a common bluetooth device?
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> no other apps take the F keys.  and ive not really needed the other keys when msging
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> fidel:  its a Motorola one. was $80 found it on sale for $13   bought 3 of them
[07:58] <DJones> Dr_Willis: Have you tried irssiconnectbot, i found that works better than ordinary connectbot for use with irssi (has ctrl-alt-d setup ready to use, things like that)
[07:59] <Dr_Willis>  i am using irssi connect bot. and connectbot.
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> both have same keyboard issue. which is also an issue in all he android apps i just tested. ;)
[08:00] <DJones> Dr_Willis: I'll have to test that tonight when I get home with my prime & the physical keyboard on it
[08:01] <StarryNight> anyone knows of a gaming linux not running wine?
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> there are native linux games.
[08:01] <fidel> StarryNight: there are tons of games
[08:01] <DJones> !games | StarryNight Have you looked at these?
[08:01] <the_legend> UTK 2004 doesnt require wine
[08:01] <fidel> StarryNight: the currently sold Humble Bundle is a nice example of a cheap games collection running on almost all platforms
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> Trine , ;)
[08:02] <StarryNight> yea i noticed that but i get a lot of questions from gamers about it and i have some windows equivalent games
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> if your primary goal is games.. stick to windows.. unless thers just specific games  you can get going on linux..
[08:03] <fidel> StarryNight: the question is always: does the game-designer/developer offer a linux version or not - in case he doenst offer one - wine or similar are / or might be your last options
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> that work well with wine, or native
[08:04] <fidel> StarryNight: apart from that - there will always be games you just cant run on linux without big extra-work & pretty specific setups
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> ive had to do major work on windows to get windows games going... in windows...
[08:04] <fidel> so - if you really consider yourself a full-time gamer -> go for a windows-partition
[08:04] <StarryNight> yea unless u r gamer who design games or work for company that design games there is NO excuse for ppl not to switch
[08:05] <StarryNight> fidel will not put up with windows atm i see some dumb ppl crashing it all the time because they get either a game which they had problem installing or downloaded a porno with virus no offense
[08:06] <glitsj16> why does ubuntu releases nothing beyond chromium-browser v18 anymore? even the PPA's don't seem to follow the release schedule...
[08:07] <fidel> StarryNight: so whats your actual question/problem?
[08:07] <fidel> glitsj16: ask ubuntu or better the chrome devs
[08:07] <StarryNight> i dont do chrome or chromium they crashed on my system when i tried to update last time i get nothing but gnome errors in kde!
[08:07] <fidel> or the ppa maintainer
[08:08] <fidel> or compile it yourself -....somehow i remember we discussed that already in the last 1-2 weeks ..havent we? ;)
[08:08] <Akiva> how can I get jack working for say, an mp3?
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> fidel:  yesteerday there was a guy ranting about it.
[08:08] <Akiva> do I need to uninstall pulse?
[08:08] <glitsj16> fidel: fair enough, it's not my first choice browser, just wondering
[08:08] <fidel> Dr_Willis: pretty sure it was some weeks ago aswell ;)
[08:08] <taylor_> can someone help me... the battery icon isnt showing up in my notification area anymore
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> FF just got updated last week.. theres only so many  man hours  out there. ;)
[08:09] <Naero> Open up your icon tray and click on the "Customize" button.
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> plus if they are porting the bug fixs back to the older versions, you may not see any big version # jumps
[08:09] <eli_> hello how can i upgrade virtualbox in ubuntu 12.04
[08:09] <Naero> Then you can customize your notification area to choose which icons should be visible on the task bar near the clock.
[08:09] <taylor_> Naero: how..
[08:10] <Naero> There should be an arrow pointing up next to the clock, which will open up the tray.
[08:10] <taylor_> im using gnome classic...
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> eli_:  use the version in the repos../ or get it from the vbox homepage
[08:10] <eli_> Dr_Willis: do i need to desintall the old one
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> eli_:  may be best to do that - if youare  getting it from their homepage
[08:11] <eli_> okthanks
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> i only use the one from the repos normally
[08:12] <eli_> Dr_Willis: is that better to use only what is repos is? or it doesn't matter to compile some time
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> i dontknow of any  new features in vbox that i need to update it..
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> so the repo version works for me
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> less hassle
[08:13] <eli_> no i mean generally, other packages
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> i use whats in the repos most of the time
[08:13] <eli_> ok thanks :)
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> i rarely if ever compile.
[08:14] <Erebus_> How do you get the terminal to not show the entire directory tree when cding around? Like I really want to see is the current directory.
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> Erebus_:  you mean in your prompt?
[08:14] <C-S-B> Erebus_: where?
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> check out the bash prompt howto. if you want  to change that
[08:15] <Erebus_> Alright, thanks
[08:15] <loneclock> hi, i just installed ubuntu on this computer for the first time, what are the first couple of things i should do? i would like to take the timer of the boot menu and remove some of the default installed programs
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> export PS1='something '  but i forget what the code is for just the root of the cwd.
[08:15] <taylor_> loneclock: you should try to install burg
[08:16] <taylor_> and burg-manager
[08:16] <loneclock> taylor_, what is burg?
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> err... dont fight with burg.. :)
[08:16] <taylor_> the brand new unified loader from grub
[08:16] <op_> Anyone can tell me why Im getting lesser internet speed readings on Firefox 13 than on my Google Chrome 19? 1 MBit difference
[08:17] <taylor_> its like a graphical version of grub .. its pretty cool
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> loneclock:  update and upgrade to  be sure everything is up to date. then figur eout wht you want to do next. ;)
[08:18] <loneclock> Dr_Willis, what is the command to do that?
[08:18] <taylor_> sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> loneclock:  use the gui package manager/update tool.. or  sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:19] <loneclock> what is the key to open a terminal?
[08:19] <Us3r_Unfriendly> alt and T
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> i always put an icon on the panel for the terminal. ;)
[08:19] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ...well back in the old days
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> of cours ei always have  one open also...
[08:19] <taylor_> is there a binary somewhere for indicator-power so i can start it and get the icon in my panel.
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> press and hold the SUPEr key to see  some unity shortcuts also
[08:20] <loneclock> alt t didnt work, i already have one open for xchat but how can i open another one?
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> loneclock:  if a terminal icon is in the panel, middle click on it
[08:22] <loneclock> how do i remove all these programs i dont want like libreoffice
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> loneclock:  use the package manager tools.. notice the 'software center' icon?
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> or install/uuse synaptic for a  simpiler gui
[08:23] <Us3r_Unfriendly> loneclock: sudo apt-get purge "libreoffice"
[08:23] <loneclock> Dr_Willis, i like to learn the commands :)
[08:23] <loneclock> Us3r_Unfriendly, ty
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> !apt | loneclock start reading then
[08:24] <Us3r_Unfriendly> su -c 'apt-get purge libreoffice' root                    for non-exsitant sudo users
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  dont use su. use 'sudo' for rooty tasks
[08:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Us3r_Unfriendly = not a beginner.  but thanks.  agreed on new users using sudo though...but for someone wanting to know how to do something with cli...there's always another way around something, as I used in the second example.  Ubuntu doesn't use synaptic anymore right??
[08:27] <borislav> Hi
[08:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> borislav: hi
[08:28] <wdp_> someone can suggest an easy-to-follow guide on how to create packages for ubuntu (i.e. .deb)
[08:31] <op_> Will this boot loader ( http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-install-burg-in-ubuntu/ ) Work in Lubuntu 12.04?
[08:31] <kroonrs> I just upgraded from 10.04 (kubuntu netbook edition) to 12.04.  The upgrade said "too many errors" were reported, but the upgrade was completed.  However, now my machine no longer shows eth0, wlan0 or my network manager...  How can I try to fix it? (no anwer on #kubuntu)
[08:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: you think maybe some op might one day hide connecting ip's that join channel.  A bit frightening I have always thought being in these irc channels
[08:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> kroonrs: burg I believe to work in lubuntu
[08:32] <Pravi> how can i retreave my data from a drive which is unallocated
[08:32] <kroonrs> Us3r_Unfriendly: I don't understand?..
  How sure are you  :D ?
[08:33] <taylor_> im sure... i followed that guide exactly
[08:33] <taylor_> im using it now...
[08:33] <Pravi> sir i accedenttly deleted a drive of  9 mb which was there and my 2 drives were deleted
[08:33]  * Dr_Willis is back
[08:33] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Pravi: have you tried "Testdisk", should be in the repos.  not sure if it will work on a unallocated drive, but it's worked wonders for me
[08:33] <Pravi> thanks
[08:33] <Us3r_Unfriendly> op_: i don't understand
[08:34] <Pravi> bt i don`t know how 2 use it
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> how did you set the partitions to be unallocated?
   nvm Ill try to install it anyway. :)
[08:34] <Pravi> this 9 mb drive was swap area
[08:34] <taylor_> op_: are you installing burg?
[08:35]  * Dr_Willis does not reccmend using burg
[08:35] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Pravi: when you install "Testdisk", use the command "photorec", should recover a bunch of data
[08:35] <op_> taylor_  yes , on lubuntu 12.04
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> Pravi:  9mb or 9gb?
[08:35] <kroonrs> any suggestions for how I can get my machine to detect eth0?
[08:35] <Pravi> bt wen i installed xp it became a drive and now my 200gb drive is not visible on xp since it is unallocated
[08:36] <Pravi> it`s 9 m,b
[08:36] <taylor_> super boot manager makes it really easy to configure burg... nice gtk gui for everything
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> !info burg
[08:36] <op_> taylor_   will keep it in mind ,thanks
[08:36] <Pravi> it was like drive which was extended
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> so burg basically is not supported by this channel.. so if it makes yiur system unbootable.. well.. good luck
[08:36] <taylor_> you have to activate another ppa
[08:37] <op_> Dr_Willis then Grub rescue disk comes in handy :) or test disk :D
[08:38] <Pravi> how can i get my data back ?????/// many imp study materials!!!!!!
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> never really need either of those.
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> Pravi:  details as to exactly what you did - would be helpfull
[08:38] <taylor_> burg and grub are really similar configuration wise .. you shouldnt have any problems
[08:38]  * Dr_Willis has seen  many people in here with burg issues.. but then agaion.. you also see grub issues. ;)
[08:39] <Pravi> first wen itried to install ubuntu 12.04 it extended my c drive of 50 gb into 30 and 20 were 20 was taken by ubuntu
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> i dont see the point in boot time eyecandy i see once a month.. due to  30+ days uptime
[08:39] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: I gotta know what you call this when you use a cli app that kinda looks like msdos.  say for example when compiling a kernel...you'd use the command "make menuconfig" which brings you to a menu where it's not commandline, but more interactive.  Another example is cfdisk, or even htop.  would you consider these "command line" or something else.  what do you call them??
[08:39] <minas> Hi, when I used windows 7, I used to listen to online radio from firefox. In ubuntu this doesn't work. I think it's because firefox on win7 used windows media player to play the music... Is there a way to achieve it on ubuntu? Here's the radio station if someone wants to test it: http://www.e-radio.gr/player/player.asp?sid=191
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> Pravi:  it resized the 50gb into a 30 for windows. and a 20gb for linux you mean?:
[08:40] <Pravi> ya
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  'ncurses interface'
[08:40] <Pravi> 20 was extende frm 50
[08:40] <op_> Dr_Willis I use Linux distros as my hobby bcs not one of them run as fast and responsive (or working correctly ) as my Windows 7 OS. So Im not concerned if I mess something up :D
[08:41] <taylor_> any linux almost runs alot faster than windows
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> Pravi:  extended means somthing else.. it resized the windows partitiosn and Made an 'extended' partition.  which  contains 2 logical partitions one for / and one for swap - normally
[08:41] <Pravi> ya
[08:42] <Pravi> bt i didn`t like it so i just formatted it so that i cud use wind 7
[08:42] <Us3r_Unfriendly> I think photorec does recover on a newly erased partition
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> Pravi:  formated what? be more exacting in your terms
[08:42] <xspider> minas: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[08:43] <Pravi> c drive
[08:43] <Us3r_Unfriendly> /dev/sda3 ??
[08:43] <Us3r_Unfriendly> c://
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> Pravi:  you formated your windows c:  why?
[08:43] <Us3r_Unfriendly> well on mine it is
[08:43] <op_> taylor_  Depends... :D  my main issues are flash , video card drivers (Old ATi) and sluggish sound which work flawlessly on W7 without 2 hrs of googling :)
[08:44] <Pravi> bt wen i tried to...... install ,,,,the  extended  20 gb became a new drive for
[08:44] <op_> Thats why I said this is my "hobby"
[08:44] <K-Lab> hi all
[08:44] <Us3r_Unfriendly> K-Lab: hi
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> Pravi:  you seem to be skipping half the words that we need to be   seeing...
[08:44] <Pravi> i formatted it becoz my mom and dad  don`t know to use it
[08:44] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i wish i could hi 5 the guys that made "parted"
[08:44] <minas> xspider: thank you! I will try it in a bit because something else is being installed right now :)
[08:45] <Pravi> sry sir
[08:45] <Pravi> !!!!
[08:45] <taylor_> my grandmother uses xubuntu..
[08:46] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i'm new to all tablets...is it possible to take a android tablet and erase android completely off the drive and install say Ubuntu??
[08:46] <Us3r_Unfriendly> or would i be basically vnc'ing it?
[08:46] <op_> taylor_  my dad ubuntu 11.10 with LXDE  . :D
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  ive heard its a work in  progress. and may be doable soon. ubuntu tablets are due out  sometime also.. there is a kde tablet thats like supposed to be out next month
[08:47] <Us3r_Unfriendly> my mom uses ubuntu 10.04
[08:47] <fidel> Us3r_Unfriendly: this might depend on what hardware you choose in the first place
[08:47] <taylor_> i think ubuntu with the one of the light weight desktop managers  is easier for old people even than windows
[08:47] <StarryNight> i seen kde tablet and it is more user friendly than a windows tablet
[08:47] <op_> Mostly bcs I dont need to worry about viruses... Noscript ,and UFW are doign their job :D
[08:48] <Pravi> now when i tried to install windows 7 i saw this 9 mb drive......... so what i did was i deleted that 9 mb drive and made it as unallocated but then as soon i deleted,,,,,,,,,,,,,,  my 200gb drive and 50gb c drive both became unallocated
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> you can install ubuntu in a vm now on many cellphones. and rooted tablets i imagine
[08:48] <op_> taylor_ yeah ,just put FF and maail on desktop and everything is fine :D
[08:48] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: fidel:  why is this an issue?  why are tablets so difficult.  That's why i haven't even bothered with them
[08:48] <fidel> Pravi: what is your native language?
[08:48] <Us3r_Unfriendly> op_: UFW ftw
[08:49] <Pravi> malayalam
[08:49] <pesci> hi
[08:49] <fidel> Us3r_Unfriendly: what means difficult? industry just doesnt care so far to run something else on them
[08:49] <loneclock> ok, i updated and upgraded, removed the programs i didnt really want....anything else vital i should do?
[08:49] <fidel> !in > Pravi
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> loneclock:  set a cool wallpaper
[08:49] <fidel> i hope i am guessing right with that language ;)
[08:50] <minas> xspider: It seems I have this package (gstreamer) in its latest version...
[08:50] <loneclock> i would like to import my gnucash stuff and my thunderbird stuff from windows partition if thats possible but i would first like to change the timer on grub
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | loneclock
[08:51] <Us3r_Unfriendly> fidel: i mean as in android is something for the new generation to play with.  for me this means nothing.  I want my linux distro I choose to run on a common tablet of my choosing.
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> loneclock:  time out delay  is set in  /etc/default/grub  change it. run sudo update-grub :) other grub tweaks in the docs abovvbve
[08:52] <fidel> Us3r_Unfriendly: i get that i just dont get your problem ;). There are tablets already where ppl try or successfully run other os'es on them.
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure how well unity, or most apps would run on a tablet.. the change from mouse-keybord to touch screen. can  cause all sorts of .. issues
[08:52] <Us3r_Unfriendly> fidel: without vnc'ing on top of android?
[08:52] <fidel> so check the available hardware - and then if you find an interesting model spend some minutes to check if someone was able to run your-distri on it
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  theres Ubuntu-arm port yes..
[08:53] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: thanks Dr_Willis and fidel
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  heard of a ubuntu phone that runs  both  comming  out.. sometime...
[08:54] <fidel> Us3r_Unfriendly: i think a pretty common model - running linux&kde might be the vivaldi-tablet
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> android/tablet/phones are evoloving at a very fast pace
[08:54] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: fidel: I'm looking forward to the ubuntu phone.  i'm tired of android and ios
[08:54] <_P3S_> where can I find a kernel stable fot i7 mobile edition...
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> amazon phone   in  the works alsoi hearr. :)
[08:55] <_P3S_> because the uficial kernel genric is affected by several freze
[08:55] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: amazon as in amazon.com ??
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  yes
[08:55] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: weird
[08:55] <Us3r_Unfriendly> but cool
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> i want one of those e-ink displays as a monitor :_ for my spare monitor. heh
[08:55] <_P3S_> I can't  figure out  what this freze are caused by...
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> i dont need fancy colors for my  ircing 2nd mnitor.
[08:57] <sneakza> Hi
[08:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: eink...cool.  not like ebook readers where it's black on white.  your talking about with color
[08:57] <duoi> hey guys. im doing a sample exam for this final i have and one question has me stumped. it asked for 3 system directory calls. naturally i assumed opendir, closedir and readdir, which is fine. however the next question asks "why is the write directory system call not included in the above list?"
[08:57] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  i dont need color. :)
[08:57] <duoi> i've tried looking online with no avail. can anyone help?
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  id like to have a android phone with e-ink and a ;loooong battery life
[08:58] <sneakza> I'm using pressed  with an installation, it seems the whole install goes well until i try boot the new system, where i end up with a grub error which says out of disk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1038693/ id my preseed config and the install log which says grub install successful… any ideas
[08:59] <t432> Where do add a .jar library so that app can find it?
[08:59] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: good luck with that.  I downgraded to my lg slider phone from my new iphone due to battery life.  I get 3 days on my lg slider, as I get a couple of hours with the iphone
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> sneakza:  erlier today some one mentioned how grub 'out of disk' means the boot files are to far 'back' on the hard drive like in the old lili 1023 cylinder limit. putting a /boot/ partition at the start of the drive might fix the issue
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  my phone is 'on' full display here on irc.. for  like  4 hrs.. befor i have to change batteries. ;)
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> im ircing 90% of the time. so i dont neef lots of color. just battery
[09:01] <Bobbaanasdasd> asd
[09:01] <kroonrs> is lshw supposed to put all output on one line (overwriting itself repeatedly) and then just stop at "PCI (sysfs)", instead of terminating and giving a prompt back?
[09:01] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Dr_Willis: your using your phone for irc?  I tried that using my iphone and the screen was horrible to read everyone's questions
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> Us3r_Unfriendly:  i see the teext finbe.,
[09:02] <taylor_> my fingers got cramped typing with irc on my phone
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> its a bit laggy since im ssh'd to my linux box. :)
[09:02] <sneakza> Dr_Willis: i'll check that but I think /boot is my first partition /sda1
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> Full Sized Bluetoothe keybords.. are handy
[09:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> taylor_: i second that...the keyboard was horrible trying to use irssi in iphone
[09:03] <Viking667> WHat's a good program to record audio and video from an application (minecraft, in this case). I'd like it to record both the microphone and the sound that the application makes, in addition to the 3D buffer.
[09:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Viking667: audacity
[09:03] <taylor_> audacity doesnt do video
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> !screencapture
[09:03] <Viking667> I've tried "Desktop recorder", and the video's all ... chocker squares, and the audio's only from the mic
[09:03] <taylor_> +1 to your question ... id like to know also
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> !info gtkrecordmydesktop
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> hmm. how its spelt..
[09:04] <loneclock> how do i make a window fullscreen (covering the sidebar) and how do i minimize it once i have made it full screen
[09:04] <Viking667> I found an app to do the audio, but I can't exactly string that together with video
[09:04] <Us3r_Unfriendly> taylor_: your right, i totally miss read that
[09:04] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Viking667: Dr_Willis is right
[09:04] <Viking667> gtk-recordmydesktop
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> loneclock:  you  need to set the 'launcher' to auto hide. then just doule clixk  the windows title bar
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> double click
[09:05] <Viking667> I think that's what I was trying.
[09:05] <taylor_> its 5:04 am here... ima go... ill see you guys later
[09:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> later taylor_
[09:05] <tstacey> need some good cards
[09:05] <Viking667> Yup. That was.
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> getting   the screen capture apps to capture sound can be a pain.. getting both sound and mic.. may be trickier
[09:05] <Viking667> mmmm.
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> someone in here was asking about just that task yesterday
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> some forum posts where mentioned,. perhaps check the logs
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> !logs
[09:06] <Viking667> I'm trying to do the run all at once, so I don't have to add audio layers.
[09:07] <loneclock> Dr_Willis,  how do i set it to auto hide?
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> loneclock:  some of the unity tweak tools can do it. I normally set mine to never hide, '
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> which is the default now. :)
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> !info myunity
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com should have several  answers on setting the panel hide settings also
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> we need a feature for the bot to show the top voted askubuntu.com hit for a query ;)
[09:09] <Akiva> I started the qjack server, and now my sound does not work
[09:10] <infs> hello ... what would be the easyest and failsafe way to remove old kernells from boot menu?
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> infs:  just use the package manager to uninstall them
[09:10] <SteeNk> hello all
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> dont uninstsll th one you are using. :) and keep at least one older one around
[09:12] <anos> hi dude what is this error for "timing out command, waited 180s"
[09:12] <infs> Dr_Willis: can I uninstall all that has 2.6.32-39(old) in package name?
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> infs:  i doubt if the package name has (old) in it...
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> use the synaptic package manager. and look at the version 3's
[09:13] <infs> no i mean that <41
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> #'s
[09:13] <infs> old<41
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> id keep the current and at least ONE older one.. just in caswe
[09:13] <infs> the last two numbers after -
[09:14] <infs> but every old backages can go?
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> i dont really find it an issue worth worrrying about... i rarely uninstall the kenrels
[09:14] <Nom-> Hey all, was curious if anyone can direct me to any info about the script(s) used to generate the official Ubuntu CD?
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> uninstall the oldest 2 or 3 if you want i ugess..  or whatever you feel safe with.
[09:15] <infs> well I'm having a very big list when I boot up ... I dont like it =)
[09:15] <ubuntu_> Hello can someone tell me how i get the resolution of my output screen via hdmi? is it Xrandr?
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> err.. i dont see a big list.. they are all in a sub menu in grub here....
[09:15] <ubuntu_> Hello can someone tell me how i get the resolution of my output screen via hdmi? is it Xrandr?
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> all under "Older kernels"
[09:16] <dizzylizzy> ubuntu_, "get"?
[09:16] <dizzylizzy> what do you mean by "get the resolution of..."
[09:16] <infs> well my easypeasy ubuntu has all from 21 to 41 in the boot menu
[09:17] <ubuntu_> dizzylizzy: I want to know my current resolution on the laptop and the tv to which it does a mirror output
[09:17] <ubuntu_> How to i find out the resolution via the cli?
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> no idea on easypeasy.. im using 12.04 clean install.. it puts them in a sub menu here
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> but removeing them.. and updateing grub.. should clean out the list
[09:18] <Viking667> sigh. Right, I so don't want to use Windows for this.
[09:18] <adamk> ubuntu_: Did you try xrandr? :-)  If so, you would have seen that it shows the current resolution.
[09:18] <Viking667> ... because that has its own issues
[09:18] <ubuntu_> adamk: yes but im not sure which is which
[09:19] <dizzylizzy> ubuntu_, how about xdpyinfo |grep 'dimensions'
[09:19] <dizzylizzy> or without the grep
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> Viking667:  seems it would be easier to record the game session, then add voice over later via  a video editing app. so you can  edit out stupid things you say. ;)
[09:19] <dizzylizzy> i recommend piping it through 'less'
[09:19] <adamk> ubuntu_: As the xrandr man page says: " If invoked without any option, it will dump the state of  the  outputs, showing  the existing modes for each of them, with a '+' after the pre-ferred mode and a '*' after the current mode."
[09:19] <ubuntu_> admthanks
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> Viking667:  as soon as you hit record.. the phone will ring. ;)
[09:21] <dizzylizzy> xrandr would definitely be more concise, yeah :P i suck
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[09:22] <troulouliou_dev> hi is it normal that rpcinfo is not located in libc-bin on ubuntu 64 bits ?
[09:23] <fidel> !info > rpcinfo
[09:23] <troulouliou_dev> fidel ?
[09:23] <llutz> !find rpcinfo
[09:23] <fidel> troulouliou_dev: ignore that line ;)
[09:23] <troulouliou_dev> i mean the bin file is not in the package
[09:24] <troulouliou_dev> ubottu, should be in libc-bin
[09:24] <llutz> troulouliou_dev: "libc-bin" should be
[09:24] <troulouliou_dev> llutz, it isn't
[09:24] <troulouliou_dev> dpkg -L libc-bin -> no file
[09:24] <glitsj16> troulouliou_dev: i believe rpcinfo is in rpcbind on 64bit
[09:24] <troulouliou_dev> only the man page
[09:25] <troulouliou_dev> glitsj16, ok will try
[09:25] <troulouliou_dev> still weird
[09:25] <troulouliou_dev> man page still in libc-bin
[09:25] <Applesouce> Hello, I have a problem. I resized my Windows partition to 120GB and now have 80GB unallocated, but cant add it to my Ubutu partition
[09:25] <llutz> libc-bin should contain /usr/bin/rpcinfo, rpcbind contains /usr/sbin/rpcinfo...
[09:26] <troulouliou_dev> glitsj16, it is thanks
[09:26] <fep> i have an amd c-60 mini with 4mb ram, when i tried wubi to see how it would run on this, everything went very very slow. any ideas or tips to how i can make it run smooth? or is it any mini-lap version of it?
[09:26] <glitsj16> troulouliou_dev: np
[09:27] <llutz> troulouliou_dev: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/libc-bin/filelist   i'd check the installation
[09:27] <Applesouce> I have resized my Windows partitin with gparted, now I have 80GB unallocated space, but cant add it to mz ubuntu partition
[09:28] <troulouliou_dev> llutz, yes it is not in the list
[09:28] <troulouliou_dev> only the manpage /usr/share/man/man8/rpcinfo.8.gz
[09:29] <llutz> troulouliou_dev: seems to be in transition to something else
[09:29] <fidel> troulouliou_dev: same here
[09:29] <fidel> so its at least not only on your install ;)
[09:29] <llutz> changelog might tell more
[09:30] <troulouliou_dev> btw what is the offcial way to disable a service on boot un upstrat /etc/init/ ?
[09:30] <troulouliou_dev> i mean it is still echo manual >> /etc/init/portmapper ? for instance
[09:31] <fep> is a mini with amd c-60, 1.0ghz - 1,3ghz processor too slow to run ubuntu?
[09:31] <llutz> troulouliou_dev: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[09:31] <llutz> troulouliou_dev: seems still to be the prefered way
[09:32] <troulouliou_dev> llutz, thanks for all
[09:32] <griselda> spex971
[09:32] <fep> does anyone see what i write=?
[09:32] <Applesouce> help I cant resize mz extended partition
[09:33] <infs> ty DR.
[09:34] <Applesouce> Is there somebody that wants to help me with my partitioning problem :<
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> Applesouce  if you're sweet
[09:34] <eahr> hi, i installed the minimal ubuntu system and X on top of it. i tried changing the mouse cursor theme with update-alternatives, but no matter which theme i use, the "normal" cursor icon is always the black x icon (which is the default in X). any ideas how to apply the new theme to that too?
[09:35] <Applesouce> :)
[09:35] <ikonia> eahr update-alternatives to change a mouse theme ?
[09:35] <eahr> ikonia: update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme
[09:35] <Applesouce> Well I have decreased the size of my Windows partition, now I have 80GB unallocated space but cant add it to my extended partition
[09:36] <phantome> Applesource why not just mount it?
[09:36] <Applesouce> mount what
[09:36] <MonkeyDust> Applesouce  guess you have to create a partition inside the extended partition, you cannot move them
[09:36] <ikonia> eahr: I didn't know you could do that with a theme
[09:37] <zaggynl> Can anyone recommend me a Remote Desktop server alternative for Ubuntu?
[09:37] <Applesouce> I cant create more partitions
[09:37] <zaggynl> To take over the Ubuntu desktop that is.
[09:37] <eahr> ikonia: yeah, i don't have any desktop environment installed or anything, so i have to get it done from the command line
[09:38] <MonkeyDust> Applesouce  in a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste the url in the channel, so we can see
[09:38] <Cebor> hi, i get an error while compiling powertop: http://pastebin.com/7wwhfqWT   can someone help me to solve this ??
[09:38] <phantome> Applesource: I imagine that you tried to merge the free space with your root partition
[09:38] <phantome> Applesource: and couldn't do it because it was mounted right?
[09:39] <phantome> (i mean the root pt)
[09:39] <glitsj16> eahr: dconf > org.gnome.desktop.interface > cursor-theme (n clue what cli syntax that should be)
[09:39] <Applesouce> No did I say that
[09:39] <ikonia> eahr: a very interesting approach
[09:40] <phantome> If you are going to do it (to add the free space to your root partition) you will ***NEED*** to do backup your root just in case and use a livecd with gparted installed
[09:40] <eahr> glitsj16: hmm.. sounds like something related to gnome, which i don't have?
[09:41] <Applesouce> http://pastebin.com/UAnyHWcK
[09:41] <phantome> Here http://bit.ly/Lx9FIa (on the ubuntu site) there is a short discussion, but I guess a little googling around will help alot. But, be carefull, backup your root in any case
[09:42] <phantome> Apple, a side question, how much ram do you have?
[09:42] <Applesouce> 8GB
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> Applesouce  is there a reason for the 3 NTFS partitions?
[09:42] <glitsj16> eahr: that's how i made my new cursor theme stick, i'm afraid i have no more clues on this
[09:42] <Applesouce> They are for Windows
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> Applesouce  all 3 of them, or can you delete one or two?
[09:42] <phantome> Then know that you don't need swap partition
[09:43] <phantome> you can delete it, merge the free space into that
[09:43] <phantome> and make it a partition and mount it
[09:43] <eahr> glitsj16: i see, i'll have to look into it. thanks
[09:43] <Applesouce> ehm not really because one is C and one is D and the other one is for System Resource
[09:43] <phantome> with 8gig ram you will NEVER use swap
[09:43] <phantome> ( well, if you reach the swap then you got serious problem :DDD )
[09:43] <Applesouce> Well it was made by Ubuntu so I just kept it, Im now having a different problem
[09:44] <phantome> you can remove it. Your partitioning problem will be solved by removing the useless swap. You will be able to create a partition, and also merge all freespace there
[09:45] <phantome> just saying...
[09:45] <Applesouce> no it didnt help
[09:45] <glitsj16> eahr: have you tried adding the theme to /usr/share/icons, and to get X11 support, change /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme
[09:45] <glitsj16> to point to the new theme (Inherits=<theme dir name>)? that's how it used to work before ubuntu precise
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> Applesouce  what /dev is (or was) the unallocated space?
[09:45] <Applesouce> it was a part of the C drive
[09:46] <Applesouce> ehm &dev&sda2
[09:46] <phantome> Oh, it was on different drive? Anyway, it was useless :D
[09:46] <Applesouce>  This is all on the same harddrive
[09:48] <eahr> glitsj16: i got the themes from the ubuntu repositories (for examples dmz-cursor-theme), and it seems that's where they have been installed. index.theme also points to the correct theme
[09:48] <phantome> It doesn't make any sense though, if you deleted a partition then you must be able to create a new in it's place. Anyway I'll check the net
[09:48] <Applesouce> it was under a extended partition so no it didnt count
[09:49] <Viking667> mrm. I'm not exactly finding a videorecording app I can even use, yet.
[09:49] <glitsj16> eahr: it might need a logout/login, but i guess you've already tried that
[09:49] <Viking667> All the ones I've tried under Linux have erm, sucked like 34-day-old bread
[09:49] <eahr> glitsj16: the selected theme works fine, except for the normal cursor icon, which should be a regular arrow in dmz, but it's the x-icon instead (the default in X.org)
[09:51] <phantome> ok Applesource, I found a similar story like the one i linked before on suse forums too. They say that it's plain easy: You boot with live distro (with gparted) and then resize your partition
[09:51] <Applesouce> damn its Applesouce why does everyone think its source ...
[09:52] <glitsj16> eahr: yes your problem sounded familiar, i had a similar experience changing cursor themes from the official repositories ... perhaps someone more familiar with dconf can help out
[09:52] <phantome> The only note was that you need to have a clean filesystem ... (meaning no problems with your fs, which is usualy the case)
[09:52] <phantome> hahah sorry
[09:52] <Applesouce> IM on a live partition
[09:52] <phantome> live cd?
[09:52] <Applesouce> yes
[09:52] <phantome> then run gparted
[09:52] <Applesouce> how should I resize my mount partition
[09:52] <eahr> glitsj16: i've found people with the same (or similar) problem, just never a solution ( http://askubuntu.com/questions/69105/ and http://askubuntu.com/questions/95564/ )
[09:52] <Applesouce> how did you think did I resize in the first place I have that running
[09:53] <eahr> glitsj16: but yeah, thanks anyway :)
[09:53] <phantome> ehm I didn't understand
[09:53] <phantome> You did resize it right?
[09:53] <Applesouce> I have resized my Windows partition
[09:53] <Applesouce> with gparted
[09:53] <phantome> did you reboot?
[09:54] <phantome> you need reboot for the changes to take effect
[09:54] <Applesouce> no Im on a live CD why should I reboot
[09:54] <fep> :p
[09:54] <Applesouce> I want to add it to mz other partition
[09:54] <glitsj16> eahr: np, these 'small' things can be a pain ;)
[09:54] <diverdude> hi
[09:54] <diverdude> I read some news that amazon stored more than a trillion objects in their cloud systems. What are these objects?
[09:54] <Applesouce> but it doesnt work ... as I said now like one million times
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> Applesouce  do you have windows installed, or do you *plan* to install it?
[09:56] <Applesouce> I have windows installed
[09:58] <MonkeyDust> Applesouce  at this point, my advice would be to backup your windows, delete all partitions and start over partitioning
[09:58] <qw> hello all
[09:58] <Applesouce> Is this reallz the onlz way
[10:00] <glitsj16> eahr: an ugly hack might be to replace your 'old' normal cursor icon with the 'new' one in /usr/share/icons
[10:01] <kroonrs> I'm trying to shift from kubuntu to ubuntu.  For first step (apt-get install ubuntu-desktop), I get error "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages".  But apt-get upgrade shows no problems.  (I have just upgraded 10.04 to 12.04).
[10:02] <Cebor> hi, i get an error while compiling powertop: http://pastebin.com/7wwhfqWT   can someone help me to solve this ??
[10:02] <D[4]ni> kroonrs: does `dpkg --get-selections | grep hold` show anything?
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> kroonrs  try sudo apt-get -f install        -f means fix
[10:02] <eahr> glitsj16: i was considering doing that, but i'm not sure where i would find the default icon theme of X
[10:03] <kroonrs> D[4]ni: no - nothing
[10:03] <kroonrs> MonkeyDust: -f install doesn't do anything
[10:04] <glitsj16> eahr: i believe it's either DMZ-Black or DMZ-White (in /usr/share/icons)
[10:05] <D[4]ni> kroonrs: you _must_ have some packages on hold since it says "held broken packages"
[10:05] <D[4]ni> kroonrs: are you by any chance using aptitude?
[10:05] <kroonrs> D[4]ni: am using apt-get
[10:06] <D[4]ni> kroonrs: did you copy the ` with the command? because you shouldn't
[10:07] <lukas1321> Can someone tell me how I can add Ubuntu into my NTLDR?
[10:07] <D[4]ni> lukas1321: download, install and run EasyBCD on your windows
[10:07] <eahr> glitsj16: that's actually the icon theme i'd like to use (well, one of the possibilities), but i mean the fully black icon theme that X.org uses by default. can't find a screenshot of it anywhere right now though.
[10:07] <D[4]ni> lukas1321: wait, win xp?
[10:07] <lukas1321> D[4]ni: Already did that, no dice :(
[10:08] <lukas1321> D[4]: 7 and 8
[10:08] <kroonrs> Part of the error says "This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation of if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming".  Not quite sure what they mean by "Incoming" or "the unstable distribution
[10:08] <kroonrs> D[4]ni: no, I didn't copy the backtick-quote
[10:08] <lukas1321> D[4]ni: I run Win7 and Win8 (release preview, on diff artitions)
[10:08] <lukas1321> partitions*
[10:09] <D[4]ni> lukas1321: well, easybcd works for me(tm)
[10:10] <D[4]ni> kroonrs: try to remove kubuntu-desktop first
[10:10] <lukas1321> D[4]ni: Right now I'm running PartedMagic from HBCD. Can I flag my Ubuntu partition with "boot"?
[10:10] <eahr> glitsj16: hmm.. maybe it's that one called "hicolor"
[10:10] <heresjohnny> lukas1321: not needed
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[10:11] <tanveer_> i need help guys!!
[10:11] <tanveer_> i cant get into win 7 after installing ubunut
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> i dident think grub used the boot flag at all
[10:11] <dizzylizzy> sounds like you need a grub timeout, tanveer_ !
[10:11] <lukas1321> heresjohnny: since "Windows" entry is already on my GRUB
[10:11] <tanveer_> whats a grub timeout?!
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> tanveer_:  so what does the system do exactly?
[10:11] <eahr> eahr: or not, i renamed the directory, but the black x-icon still appears magically :)
[10:11] <heresjohnny> tanveer_: i think you can hold left shift
[10:12] <heresjohnny> tanveer_: at boot to get a grub menu
[10:12] <tanveer_> i prese enter on win 7 on grub it just goes back to grab
[10:12] <D[4]ni> dizzylizzy: doesn't grub have a default timeout of 10 secs?
[10:12] <kroonrs> D[4]ni: I need to keep the desktop until I have another one...
[10:12] <dizzylizzy> D[4]ni, that depends!!!! :D
[10:12] <eahr> glitsj16: or not, i renamed the directory, but the black x-icon still appears magically :)
[10:12] <tanveer_> i have 10 seconds on grub but problem is i hit enter on win7 yet it goes back to grub
[10:12] <D[4]ni> kroonrs: ever tried ctrl+alt+f[1-6]?
[10:12] <dizzylizzy> ahh
[10:12] <tanveer_> all my families stuff in win7
[10:12] <D[4]ni> and ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to the gui
[10:12] <kroonrs> D[4]ni: yes, but I use applications on the desktop that I can't use on the console
[10:13] <tanveer_> what should i do??
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> tanveer_:  i  would suggest booting into linux, then doing a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and  se eif any updates  fix the   grub entry for windows. since it seems to be in error.
[10:13] <D[4]ni> kroonrs: just for replacing the desktop
[10:13] <dizzylizzy> well at least you can always mount the windows partition from ubuntu
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> tanveer_:  also see if you can access the windows drive from inside linux
[10:13] <kroonrs> D[4]ni: and if I remove kde and can't install gnome (or possibly reinstall KDE), I'm stuck without a desktop...
[10:13] <tanveer_> i can access the 80gb file system in ubuntu il do the updates quikcly
[10:14] <heresjohnny> kroonrs: cleanest way would be to just backup home and etc and install ubuntu then manually copy the needed stuff over
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> kroonrs:  you could intall some 3rd desktop/window manager as a backup. :) or learn to use the  console shell
[10:14] <D[4]ni> kroonrs: you should always be able to reinstall what you just uninstalled.
[10:14] <kroonrs> D[4]ni: I'll try it if I have no other option.  In any case, can't do it now - need to get home
[10:14] <D[4]ni> kroonrs: installing ubuntu-desktop shouldn't be a problem either.
[10:14] <kroonrs> s/home/an appointment
[10:14] <tanveer_> ok guys what after the update?
[10:14] <tanveer_> what if I still cant boot into win 7?
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> tanveer_:  i  would suggest booting into linux, then doing a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and  se eif any updates  fix the   grub entry for windows. since it seems to be in error.
[10:15] <tanveer_> dr willis i am in linux and im doing the updates in terminal
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> tanveer_:  upgrade does the actual  upgradeing of packages
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> so do both the commands mentioned
[10:15] <tanveer_> ok i did update and im doing upgrade now
[10:15] <antarus> I'm curious about ubuntu-minimal
[10:16] <antarus> is it safe to remove?
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> tanveer_:  its possible the grub entry is trying to boot the wrong windows parittio n
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> !info ubuntu-minimal
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> antarus:  its a meta package. why are you removeing it?
[10:17] <tanveer_> dr willis oh i see how would i change that?
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> tanveer_:  one way.. as a test - edit the grub boot entries from the grub menu as a test..  other way make a custome entry for windows with the right info in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[10:18] <D[4]ni> tanveer_: if the upgrade doesn't work, try 'update-grub'
[10:18] <antarus> Dr_Willis: I'm just curious how the OS dependencies are structured
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> windows can be installed weirdly by some  companies
[10:18] <antarus> Dr_Willis: like ubuntu-minimal depends on eject, and I don't want eject, so I could possibly remove eject
[10:18] <antarus> but then some packages might break (because they expect eject)
[10:18] <antarus> but it seems like nothing depends on ubuntu-minimal
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> meta packages just pull in other packages..
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> i belive
[10:19] <tanveer_> upgrade is almost done
[10:19] <glitsj16> eahr: looked around some more, but only bug reports, no clear fixes i'm afraid ... what i forgot, do you have the correct index.theme file also in ~/.icons/default ?
[10:19] <nyuszika7h> Metapackages have a collection of packages as dependencies, I think.
[10:20] <antarus> Dr_Willis: I'm curious if the dependencies of other packages are missing dependencies, because the dependencies are provided by ubuntu-minimal
[10:20] <antarus> like if i remove eject, will things break because they expect eject to be installed by ubuntu-minimal, or should they depend directly on eject?
[10:20] <eahr> glitsj16: hmm.. i don't seem to have .icons, i guess i could try creating it
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> meta packages are not depended on.. they are used to make it easier to install 'sets' of other packages
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> at least thats how i think its setup
[10:22] <glitsj16> eahr: yes do, this seems to be a regular file, not a symlink as the one in /usr/share/icons/default
[10:22] <mi3> HI!
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[10:25] <eahr> glitsj16: i copied /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme to ~/.icons/default/index.theme , didn't seem to make a difference unfortunately :/
[10:28] <glitsj16> eahr: too bad, seems food fr a bug report
[10:30] <eahr> glitsj16: maybe, i guess this isn't all that important though, would have just been nice to have a prettier mouse cursor :)
[10:31] <glitsj16> eahr: true :)
[10:31] <tanveer_> dr willis it didnt work
[10:31] <tanveer_> did all updates and all upgrades
[10:31] <tanveer_> still couldnt boot into win7
[10:32] <lizzin> my resolution and font size are set to what i am used to in osx(1920x1200 and 14pt.) but everthing still looks so big. what can i do? decreasing the font size degrades they way chars look
[10:33] <tanveer_> who can fix my problem over teamviewer a remote desktop application?!
[10:33] <tanveer_> im screwed if i cant boot into win 7
[10:34] <tanveer_> nooooooo theirs no one here
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> tanveer_  grub issues?
[10:35] <tanveer_> yes
[10:35] <tanveer_> I cant boot into win7
[10:35] <tanveer_> I press enter on win7, but it just goes back to grub menu
[10:35] <g[r]eek> Hi fellas. I am using PHP to send emails using the mail() function. I'd like to figure out what mail() is calling. The PHP docs only refer to "the program configured to send emails on your server" <- how do I figure out more about this program? I'm on Ubuntu 11.04
[10:35] <Likso> Hi. I'm using a live cd with ubuntu (11.10 64bit). I need to burn an iso with ubuntu 12.04 but my computer has just one dvd drive. Can I take out the live cd, burn the ISO of Ubuntu 12.04 without problems?
[10:36] <tanveer_> no you cant likso
[10:36] <heresjohnny> tanveer_: could be grub or windows 7s bootloader got mssed p
[10:36] <tanveer_> heresjohnny do you think you can fix it over teamviewer??
[10:36] <tanveer_> or anyone free?
[10:36] <DarwinSurvivor> Likso: if you have a usb drive, you could boot ubuntu off of that, then your cd burner would be free for burning
[10:37] <heresjohnny> tanveer_: theres a prog called easybsd that can repair it, but it might not even be that
[10:37] <tanveer_> shall I re-explain the problem just to be sure
[10:37] <Likso> @DarwinSurvivor that's a good idea. I didnt' think about that. Thanks! :)
[10:38] <lizzin> my resolution and font size are set to what i am used to in osx(1920x1200 and 14pt.) but everthing still looks so big. what can i do? decreasing the font size degrades they way chars look
[10:38] <tanveer_> change resolution?
[10:38] <heresjohnny> tanveer_: not a good idea on lcd
[10:38] <tanveer_> oh
[10:39] <DarwinSurvivor> lizzin: is this in libreoffice, gedit, then entire system, just your user account...?
[10:40] <tanveer_> DOes anyone know how to fix my problem?!?
[10:40] <Viking667> Well, finally found what I wanted, cobbled together into a really long convoluted ffmpeg recording command.
[10:40] <DarwinSurvivor> !fixgrub | tanveer_
[10:40] <Viking667> pulls in two audio streams, and a video stream...
[10:40] <tanveer_> No no i didnt lose grub, I cant get to win7 from grub menu
[10:40] <Viking667> I'm recording the video and the audio to two separate hard drives to increase the quality of encoding. And MAN the vidcap is good.
[10:41] <DarwinSurvivor> tanveer_: look at thos instructions, it may also help you get windows working again
[10:41] <Viking667> so, I'm a happy camper. Just requires me to tune ffmpeg.
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> tanveer_  and a grub-repair, or grub-update?
[10:41] <szal> tanveer_: indeed, 'sudo update-grub' might help for starters
[10:41] <heresjohnny> tanveer_: you need to restore windows boot with fixboot
[10:42] <olala22000> yes1
[10:42] <lizzin> DarwinSurvivor: well with firefox, only the menu buttons look overly big. same with evince and other apps. terminal chars are also big
[10:42] <heresjohnny> tanveer_: try booting with a windows 7 dvd if you have one and running fixboot it might sort it
[10:42] <lizzin> DarwinSurvivor: fwiw, it is a fresh install
[10:42] <szal> tanveer_: if that doesn't cut it, then download & burn a Super GRUB2 Disk, reinstall Windows bootloader w/ Windows install medium, then boot *buntu w/ Super GRUB2 Disk, & reinstall Grub
[10:42] <DarwinSurvivor> lizzin: did you set any custom video settings (dpi, etc)?
[10:43] <tanveer_> thats quite alot to do szal il quikcly try sudo update-grub and see if dingoes anyth
[10:43] <lizzin> DarwinSurvivor: i dont recall doing so. played around with xrandr. thats it though
[10:43] <tanveer_> does anything*
[10:43] <Viking667> tanveer_: heh. I really did read that as "dingoes anything"
[10:43] <tanveer_> lol
[10:43] <DarwinSurvivor> lizzin: do you have the same issues if you create a new user and login as them?
[10:44] <tanveer_> windows 7 is SDA1 is their any way i can check this and make it default boot priority
[10:45] <lizzin> DarwinSurvivor: one sec
[10:45] <jerryzhou> hi
[10:46] <tanveer_> brb going to re try to boot into win 7
[10:46] <Anomie211> Friend installed Ubuntu last night, he says once he gets past the home/login page all he can see is a white screen, just wondering if anyone has experienced this before? So I know what to look for
[10:46] <freedomrun> Anomie211, vga driver issue
[10:47] <olala22000> < tanveer_> hi before look at here http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/boot-repair
[10:47] <Anomie211> freedomrun: How would I resolve that? Since I can't see the screen to do anything lol
[10:48] <freedomrun> Anomie211, by booting in cli mode, or ctrl+alt+f1 at login screen, before you login
[10:49] <tanveer_> ok sudo grubupdate didnt fix the problem I still cant boot into wni7
[10:50] <tanveer_> on grub menu I press enter on win 7
[10:50] <sentriz> Ìû
[10:50] <tanveer_> goes back to grub menu
[10:51] <tanveer_> i have a wIN7 ultimate disc
[10:53] <ubuntu_> i just deleted my logical drive by mistake and my data was lost............... then i tried to get the data back using TEST DISK but after the quick search  it says that "files cannot be shown ,files have been damaged" .... Please help me to get my data back????????/
[10:53] <master5o1> Hi.
[10:54] <Anomie211> freedomrun: Will other desktop enviroments work? Like Unity2D
[10:54] <freedomrun> ubuntu_, testdisk but 1st for file partition/system, then your files will be available
[10:55] <ubuntu_> sorry i didn`t get u!
[10:55] <freedomrun> Anomie211, once you setup xorg properly they all are going to work
[10:56] <lizzin> DarwinSurvivor: even new users are bigger than what i am used to in osx
[10:56] <ubuntu_> freedomrun_,, sorry i didn`t understand
[10:56] <freedomrun> ubuntu_, here is documentation and examples of usage: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk just keep in mind you are trying to recover partition not files
[10:57] <DarwinSurvivor> lizzin: can you post a screenshot of what you are seeing?
[10:57] <lizzin> DarwinSurvivor: working on it now
[10:57] <ubuntu_> freedom_run,,, but i just need my data back
[10:57] <ubuntu_> .
[10:59] <freedomrun> ubuntu_, well when you recover partition your disk will know where and how to search for your data :)
[10:59] <lizzin> DarwinSurvivor: what is a good site to post a screenshot?
[11:00] <ubuntu_> ya i got that ...... but after quick search..... when i tried to get into the drive ,,, it says that files have been damaged
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> lizzin  http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[11:00] <DarwinSurvivor> !pastebin | lizzin
[11:02] <freedomrun> ubuntu_, what filesystem was recovered and was it same before the problem
[11:03] <ubuntu_> what i didn`t get you???//
[11:04] <lizzin> DarwinSurvivor: http://imagebin.org/216217 hopefully you can see the size diff. also notice the diff in the brightness. can the brightness on the ubuntu terminal(on left) be increased too?
[11:04] <freedomrun> ubuntu_, maybe it is better that you try to describe what you did with TestDisk instead of my guessing
[11:05] <ubuntu_> ok!!!!!!!!!!
[11:06] <morsnowski> Anybody an idea where I can find libstdc++5_3.3.6-17ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[11:06] <DarwinSurvivor> lizzin: that looks normal to me. the terminal tends to have a fairly large font, I usually run mine with "monospace 10"
[11:06] <ubuntu_> i just opened test disk and started the quick search as soon as i saw my hard disk ..........then after analysis it said that the files have been damaged
[11:06] <morsnowski> it's not on any ubuntu mirror
[11:06] <DarwinSurvivor> morsnowski: why do you need it?
[11:07] <morsnowski> I have an old lexmark and their install script needs that one
[11:07] <DarwinSurvivor> morsnowski: what install script?
[11:07] <lizzin> DarwinSurvivor: why would the same settings(font and resolution) be different sizes?
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> !find libstdc | morsnowski
[11:08] <morsnowski> yes i know the current version but I do need the old one
[11:09] <DarwinSurvivor> morsnowski: non-repository drivers and install scripts are very dangerous because it is very difficult to tell what they are doing to the filesystem since they *rarely* ever use the package managers. they aer also VERY difficult (or impossible) to remove
[11:09] <DarwinSurvivor> morsnowski: have you checked the http://www.openprinting.org/printers database to see if the printer is supported?
[11:09] <morsnowski> DarwinSurvivor, I know but I'm not going to kick out a perfectly working printer
[11:09] <morsnowski> and I refuse to boot into windows
[11:10] <tanveer_> Neeed help
[11:11] <tanveer_> the windows file system is there
[11:11] <tanveer_> but i cant boot into it still
[11:11] <tanveer_> i have a windows cd
[11:11] <morsnowski> DarwinSurvivor, will do that again but as of three weeks ago there wasn't anything there either
[11:12] <tanveer_> come on guys
[11:13] <freedomrun> ubuntulog, that could mean that your boot sector is damaged or cannot be read you can rebuild that with deeper scan but you should know what was your partition layout before problem
[11:14] <freedomrun> ubuntulog, partition table is written in bootsector
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> tanveer_  maybe ask in ##windows
[11:15] <lizzin> DarwinSurvivor: any idea why the same settings(font and resolution) would appear differently?
[11:16] <DarwinSurvivor> lizzin: who knows. fonts are *supposed* to be standard sizes, but anyone who has worked with layout software and document editors enough knows it simply doesn't happen
[11:16] <tanveer_> this is a grub problem munkeydust
[11:16] <tanveer_> i cant get into wnidows from grub
[11:16] <tanveer_> i never had this problem before in kubuntu
[11:17] <nannes> tanveer_: Have you tried to reinstall grub on hda0 ?
[11:17] <tanveer_> how do i do that
[11:17] <nannes> !grub | tanveer_
[11:17] <DarwinSurvivor> lizzin: one reason is that font points are defined by the PHYSICAL size (a "point" is a unit of measurement), so if the DPI settings for the display settings are different, the fonts will be different
[11:17] <tanveer_> I did the grub updates
[11:17] <tanveer_> can u take a look at my computer?
[11:17] <tanveer_> laptop
[11:18] <nannes> lol?
[11:18] <tanveer_> i dont understand how the file system works on ubuntu
[11:18] <nannes> what?
[11:18] <freedomrun> ubuntu_  that could mean that your boot sector is damaged or cannot be read you can rebuild that with deeper scan but you should know what was your partition layout before problem
[11:18] <lizzin> DarwinSurvivor: oh ok, i look into the dpi settings
[11:18] <nannes> tanveer_: it's pretty simple
[11:18] <DarwinSurvivor> morsnowski: hmm, unfortunately non-repo software is unsupported (this includes PPA's), so for help using them you will need to contact the author directly (Lexmark in your case)
[11:18] <tanveer_> nannes with remote desktop connection
[11:18] <freedomrun> ubuntu_ partition table is written in bootsector
[11:18] <tanveer_> you view my screen
[11:18] <nannes> tanveer_: :OO
[11:18] <sentriz> Ìû
[11:18] <tanveer_> teamviewer
[11:18] <tanveer_> i have it installed
[11:19] <nannes> tanveer_: Ok I can, but you should know it's very risky to ask about it in a public IRC channel
[11:19] <DarwinSurvivor> !private | tanveer_
[11:19] <tanveer_> yeah dont worry
[11:19] <tanveer_> how can i private message you
[11:20] <nannes> tanveer_:  /quote nannes
[11:20] <DarwinSurvivor> tanveer_: have you CONFIRMED that it is a grub issue? Windows can be VERY picky about it's boot loader being replaced
[11:20] <tanveer_> darwin yes im sure
[11:20] <tanveer_> and rootpass is 123
[11:21] <nannes> o.O
[11:21] <tanveer_> just take a look at my laptop
[11:21] <nannes> tanveer_: PV me!!!!
[11:21] <nannes> lol how crazy people
[11:21] <tanveer_> oh the /quote nannes ?
[11:21] <nannes> tanveer_: yep
[11:21] <tanveer_> I did
[11:24] <geff> help
[11:24] <fidel> !ask > geff
[11:24] <geff> ./irc.freenode.net 6667
[11:24] <kulhas> hello, I use last ubuntu with unity and there is something that I dont like it, what annoys me most is that open app's and closed app's are all together… is there any solution to this ? (btw I am thinking to install another desktop manager, but first I would like to give unity a oportunity)
[11:24] <fidel> kulhas: could you try to rephrase your issue?
[11:25] <fidel> kulhas: looking for some kind of dock which only shows open apps or whats your target?
[11:25] <geff> ./irc.hackerzvoice.net 6667
[11:25] <fidel> geff: without the .
[11:25] <fidel> and with connect or server instead most likely
[11:26] <fidel> or like that ;)
[11:27] <kulhas> In unity in the sidebar app menu it have the closed apps and open apps, so I need to scrool to switch from active app to active app. I don't want to scroll and would like to have my open apps grouped
[11:28] <DarwinSurvivor> kulhas: well you can always move your most-used applications to the top of the bar (drag right, then up/down)
[11:28] <fidel> kulhas: i would just replace the unity-dock/sidebar with something else (like awn/docky/tint2 or similar) - but i dont use unity either
[11:29] <DarwinSurvivor> kulhas: there is no shame in using another DE if you don't like Unity. KDE, gnome-shell and xfce are all quite popular
[11:29] <freedomrun> kulhas, try MyUnity
[11:32] <kulhas> humm ok tx
[11:33] <morsnowski> whats up with kernel.org have they given up the ghost ?
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> morsnowski  yes, won't load here, either
[11:35] <fidel> same here
[11:37] <oooaaaoooo> !#awk
[11:38] <roberto> r
[11:38] <riegersn> how can I modify my keyboard settings to swap the default FN mode? I'd like it to be set to on by default so i can control volume and music without hitting the fn key every time.
[11:39] <riegersn> its a logitech wireless solar k750
[11:41] <DarwinSurvivor> riegersn: you mean the Fn+something keybindings?
[11:42] <tziOm> Does ubuntu setup not support I350 ethernet?
[11:43] <DarwinSurvivor> tziOm: the printer...?
[11:44] <tziOm> ethernet printer?
[11:44] <tziOm> no, intel gb etherner
[11:45] <Cebor> hi, i get an error while compiling powertop: http://pastebin.com/7wwhfqWT   can someone help me to solve this ??
[11:45] <DarwinSurvivor> tziOm: I'm seeing references to Intel having released the drivers in 2011, so they *should* be supported.
[11:46] <morsnowski> MonkeyDust, thanks
[11:46] <tziOm> but seems the ubuntu bootloader does not support in the igb driver..?
[11:46] <DarwinSurvivor> Cebor: why not use the version in the repositories?
[11:47] <DarwinSurvivor> !details  | tziOm
[11:47] <Cebor> DarwinSurvivor, the version dont start on my machiene
[11:48] <DarwinSurvivor> Cebor: could you be more specific?
[11:49] <hanke> I have installed 12.04 on 2 computers already and everything is running smoothly. Now i wanted to install it on another laptop (Acer). Installation went fine, however after i enter my password nothing happens anymore. I can move the mouse but screen stays blank. I have reinstalled twice already but same behaviour. Anyone seen this kind of problem?
[11:49] <Cebor> DarwinSurvivor,  i got a black screen, and i must kill my terminal
[11:50] <tanveer_> it didnt work it went into sda1 I think
[11:50] <tanveer_> so i just came back onto ubuntu
[11:51] <DarwinSurvivor> Cebor: oh. unless there is some debug info (or terminal output) you can capture, the best I'd be able to do is recommend filing a bug report. the compile error appears to be an issue with the source code, so you'll have to report *that* issue to the developers
[11:52] <Cebor> ok thanks
[11:52] <riegersn> Darwin4Ever, got disconnected. Yes I was to swap the default state of the FN key, so I can change volume and music without hitting it.
[11:52] <DarwinSurvivor> hanke: did you use the same install disk for all 3 machines?
[11:52] <hanke> @Darmin: yes
[11:52] <DarwinSurvivor> riegersn: so problem solved?
[11:52] <riegersn> Darwin4Ever, no. Did I miss your resolution maybe?
[11:53] <szal> Cebor: why do you _compile_ powertop in the 1st place?
[11:53] <DarwinSurvivor> hanke: you said "nothing happens" and "screen stays blank", did it go to a black screen when you logged in or something?
[11:53] <szal> !info powertop
[11:53] <hanke> I get a login screen; i enter my password and press enter
[11:53] <DarwinSurvivor> riegersn: you just said you were able to swap them, I thought that was what you wanted to do? if not, what do you still need to do?
[11:53] <hanke> then it looks like its dong something, but it will stay like that ...
[11:54] <hanke> only thing that i can move is the mouse pointer ...
[11:54] <DarwinSurvivor> hanke: so it's not blank, it's frozen?
[11:54] <Cebor> szal,  sorry dont understand what u want...
[11:54] <hanke> not frozen... the mouse responds thats the most qurious part ...
[11:54] <szal> Cebor: you could as well install powertop from the above mentioned package, no need to build yourself
[11:55] <riegersn> Darwin4Ever, sorry about the confusion, I meant I WANT to swap the FN key. I'm here for help in figuring out how to do it ;p
[11:55] <Cebor> szal, powertop from the repos dont work for me,   the last version from github worked fine until the last days
[11:56] <lemarc> my touchpad hangs very frequently on ubuntu 11.10
[11:57] <DarwinSurvivor> riegersn: the Fn key is not a normal modifier key (like shift, ctrl, alt, super), it is a HARDWARE modifier which means that the OS has absolutely no idea the button was ever hit. F8 and Fn+F8 appear as completely different keys to the operating system. some computers allow the key to be change in the BIOS, but other than that you will need to rebind each key individually (beware of hardware combos such as Fn+F8 disabling touch
[11:58] <DarwinSurvivor> hanke: did the livecd log in fine?
[11:58] <riegersn> Darwin4Ever, I see. Ok, thank youj
[11:59] <hanke> yes; no problem. Also when i enter 'rescue mode' i can start a shell and mount everything ... so the problem looks like related to some GUI program that does not start correctly ?
[12:01] <DarwinSurvivor> hanke: can you boot the install media and select "check this disk for defects"? it could be that one of the drivers or something on the disk (which is only needed on the third machine) is corrupted
[12:02] <operatorplik> met malam
[12:02] <hanke> okya, i'll try that ... will take a while though ... I'll let you know :)
[12:03] <DarwinSurvivor> hanke: ok
[12:04] <softmanpetro> I wans noticed I have 3 ip addresses for eth0 and edited the /etc/network/nterfaces and deleted 2 blocks there auto eth0:0 sand auto eth0:1
[12:04] <softmanpetro> restarted networking but still 3 addresses when ifconfig
[12:04] <softmanpetro> any hint please how to remove the uneeded 2 ?
[12:05] <ikonia> softmanpetro: please pastebin the output of "sudo ifconfig -a" please.
[12:07] <SunSoul> Morning all. I am trying to get Ubuntu 12.04 to boot with an EFI boot system. I have made a EFI boot partition already. How do I go about making sure that Ubuntu 12.04 will install the boot loader within that space, so t hat it iwll boot proper with EFI support. Note, that I am doing a fresh install, so I have not modified anything, or have not done any installation so far, just beginning.
[12:07] <softmanpetro> http://pastebin.com/VKfy4BDx ikonia
[12:08] <hanke> @DarwinSurvivor: I wanted to reboot but then a 'window' popped up: The application COMPIZ has closed unexpectedly.
[12:08] <DarwinSurvivor> hanke: and you hadn't logged in yet?
[12:08] <hanke> THis is probably the problem, but how can i solve it ???
[12:09] <DarwinSurvivor> hanke: you got that from the login screen?
[12:09] <hanke> I entered my passwd to login and after that the system stops responding ... (only mouse still working)
[12:10] <tanveer_> nannes u there
[12:10] <hanke> then after long time the COMPIZ problem pops up ....
[12:10] <Tinkernoob> [help] I removed myself from the admin group, how do I put myself back in the sudoers file? I am the only user on my vps running ubuntu 12.04lts
[12:11] <ikonia> softmanpetro: you're not using network manager are you ?
[12:11] <ikonia> Tinkernoob: you need to boot into recovery mode
[12:11] <ikonia> Tinkernoob: from there you can re-add yourself to the admin group
[12:11] <serdar_> I am using ubuntu 11.10, I would like to upgrade it to 12.04. Is it possible to do it?
[12:11] <ikonia> serdar_: sure
[12:12] <serdar_> ikonia: how can I do it?
[12:12] <ikonia> !upgrade > serdar_
[12:12] <DarwinSurvivor> hanke: could be, but check the disk first. if the disk is corrupted, you have bigger fish to fry!
[12:12] <ikonia> serdar_: check the link ubottu just sent you
[12:12] <hanke> okay, i'll continue with disk checking
[12:12] <serdar_> ikonia: thank you
[12:13] <Tinkernoob> ikonia: How do i do that from the commandline, i only know reboot command
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> Tinkernoob  try visudo
[12:14] <ikonia> Tinkernoob: it would be easier to boot from a livecd, or select recovery mode from the grub boot option
[12:14] <SunSoul> Morning all. I am trying to get Ubuntu 12.04 to boot with an EFI boot system. I have made a EFI boot partition already. How do I go about making sure that Ubuntu 12.04 will install the boot loader within that space, so t hat it iwll boot proper with EFI support. Note, that I am doing a fresh install, so I have not modified anything, or have not done any installation so far, just beginning.
[12:15] <Tinkernoob> ikonia: but I am remotely over ssh connected to my vps not sure how i would do that
[12:15] <serdar_> ikonia: it is very easy to upgrade the ubuntu, thanks for your help
[12:15] <ikonia> Tinkernoob: you'll need to contact your VPS hosting provider to fix it then
[12:15] <Tinkernoob> ok will do that then
[12:18] <softmanpetro> solved it ikonia
[12:18] <softmanpetro> but needed a restart
[12:18] <softmanpetro> after deleting the 2 auto blocks in interfaces
[12:19] <softmanpetro> there is any ifconfig eth0 restart ?
[12:21] <fira> softmanpetro: uh, /etc/init.d/network restart ?
[12:23] <softmanpetro> that still kept the result for ifconfig showing 3 ip's even after deleteing 2 of 3 of them inside interfaces
[12:23] <softmanpetro> ifconfig eth0 down is making machine unavailable so I did a restart
[12:23] <softmanpetro> network restart does not refresh somehow it's results
[12:24] <fira> :/
[12:24] <napster> I have an activity running inside a tabhost. Its onResume is not called always. Does someone here experience in this issue?
[12:26] <manitou> how i startx on machine without monitor (headles) ?
[12:26] <savr> hi
[12:27] <savr> I am having a really weird problem with my wifi
[12:27] <savr> when ever I try to connect to a network I previously connected to I can not get any network access
[12:27] <savr> even to the router
[12:28] <savr> this start right after someone renamed a network while I was connected to it
[12:28] <savr> currently I am connect via a wifi network I have never connected to
[12:29] <fidel> savr: could you check if you have defined some kind of 'prefered wifi-network' somewhere in your network-configuration
[12:29] <fidel> just wild guessing here
[12:30] <sacarlson> manitou: best I can find so far http://www.thinkplexx.com/learn/howto/linux/system/start-and-use-xfdb-enable-x-server-on-headless-system
[12:30] <savr> fidel, and what setting would that be?
[12:31] <fidel> savr: to remember and priorize a specific wifi-network - which might result in issues with some bad luck
[12:32] <savr> I have rebooted, logged in as guest
[12:32] <fidel> -> prefered wifi-network. Cant check further right now as i dont have wifi-hw right here
[12:32] <savr> fidel, they are all secure networks
[12:32] <dominik> manitou: you can run vncserver, it will provide you a "fake" display
[12:32] <savr> and none are in range of each other
[12:33] <savr> currently I am connected to an insecure network
[12:33] <savr> so maybe that is why I can connect
[12:33] <manitou> dominik, ok but machine wont boot ?
[12:34] <manitou> and it boot when monitor attached
[12:34] <subdesign> ppl why my browser wants to download a localhost site , and not render? i didn't do anything, once i load one of my dev site that happened
[12:34] <subdesign> ?
[12:35] <sacarlson> manitou: you should be able to boot in recover mode where it won't start X
[12:36] <fidel> subdesign: php & local server?
[12:36] <subdesign> yes
[12:36] <subdesign> i restarted apache2
[12:36] <fidel> subdesign: check if phpinfo works
[12:36] <subdesign> even the computer
[12:36] <subdesign> ok
[12:36] <tanveer_> nannes...
[12:36] <nannes> ?
[12:36] <tanveer_> it worked
[12:36] <nannes> :))
[12:36] <tanveer_> your a legend
[12:37] <nannes> Thank god you didn't find a lamer here..
[12:37] <pzn> using ubuntu 12.04 64bits updated. when I press "attach" button on thunderbird, it takes about 2 minutes to open the attach window. how can I debug/solve this?
[12:37] <tanveer_> lol
[12:37] <nannes> tanveer_: never give your root psw or TeamViewer access to anyone
[12:37] <tanveer_> oh ok
[12:37] <nannes> but me :D
[12:37] <tanveer_> lol
[12:37] <minatu> What app that allow preview new email?
[12:38] <fidel> minatu: please rephrase
[12:38] <minatu> I want to a application on my Ubuntu and allow to preview new mail
[12:39] <minatu> I searched on google, but nothing
[12:39] <fidel> minatu: your question is - at least for me - still pretty unclear
[12:40] <llutz> minatu: nearly any mailclient available allows to "preview new mail"
[12:40] <jennie> hello   I have installed a music player in 1204 through this command sudo apt-get install qmmp but how do I find it and run , please help
[12:40] <fidel> preview mail? this would need knowledge of your mail server, user and pw. therefor we already have mailclients
[12:40] <fidel> minatu: how are you currently using mail? browser only?
[12:40] <minatu> I'm finding a Ubuntu Application to pre-view ,mail content without opening mail client ( such as thunderbird)
[12:41] <fidel> jennie: use an launcher or start the app/cmd from a terminal
[12:41] <subdesign> fidel: yes phpinfo gives info
[12:41] <subdesign> fidel, whats next?
[12:41] <minatu> No, I'm using Thunderbird for mailing
[12:41] <fidel> subdesign: if phpinfo() works - your php page must work too - otherwise you have issues in your code
[12:41] <fidel> at this point you are using the wrong channel subdesign
[12:42] <fidel> as we focus on ubuntu issues - not php-code
[12:42] <fidel> consider enabling showing php error output
[12:42] <subdesign> fidel: all my sites on localhost is forced to download thats strange
[12:42] <jennie> fidel , it is closing when i closing terminal
[12:42] <petan> hi, is 10.04 LTS latest version? it doesn't let me upgrade to any newer version
[12:42] <jrib> !upgrade | petan
[12:42] <minatu> But, For some new email, I only want to read content without replying.
[12:42] <savr> any ideas?
[12:43] <fidel> jennie: well - thats normal like that - as you normaly dont launch apps like that. & might help. on the other hand - find a way to start it that you prefer
[12:43] <piet> hello, ubuntu and pc noob in general, using laptop HP, 64bit, win7, wanting to install ubuntu 12, but when i use WUBI, then PC restarts, to ubuntu on CD, then appears ubuntu desktop, where i choose option to install, PC restarts, and goes straight to ubuntu desktop on CD again, and nothing has been installed
[12:43] <jrib> petan: unless you take special action (see ubottu's links) 12.04 will not be offered as an upgrade until 12.04.1 is released
[12:43] <kanyl> Is it safe to upgrade ubuntu server from 10.10 to 12.04 without physical access? The server is a 500km drive away :3
[12:43] <fidel> petan: wait for 12.04.1 or do it manually
[12:43] <petan> jrib: 12.04 is LTS?
[12:43] <minatu> While Thunderbird take at least 10 second for starting up
[12:43] <jrib> petan: yes
[12:43] <petan> aha
[12:43] <fidel> petan: lts to lts without manually fiddling needs 12.04.1
[12:43] <subdesign> fidel: thx
[12:43] <jrib> kanyl: realize you must upgrade 10.10 to 11.04 to 11.10 and then to 12.04
[12:44] <petan> problem is that do-release-upgrade tell me there is no update
[12:44] <jrib> petan: see ubottu...
[12:44] <petan> I do
[12:44] <kanyl> jrib: Is there a big risk something will break?
[12:44] <crizis> there's always a risk
[12:44] <crizis> :)
[12:44] <fidel> kanyl: got issues on 1 of 3 hosts where i did lts-to-lts ...if that helps ;)
[12:45] <petan> jrib: what should I see there?
[12:45] <kanyl> fidel: big issues?
[12:45] <jrib> petan: read the relevant section... (10.04 to 12.04 upgrade)
[12:45] <fidel> kanyl: yep - and this host wasnt even that special ;)
[12:45] <petan> jrib: I don't see that section on that page
[12:46] <jrib> petan: what page?
[12:46] <sacarlson> piet: if you leave the cd in the drive and you have bios set to boot cd first before your hard disk then that's what it will do
[12:46] <petan> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:46] <jrib> petan: read the first line
[12:46] <piet> how to enter bios?
[12:46] <kanyl> fidel: what do you think, should I upgrade? I'm really fucked if the server goes offline
[12:46] <petan> jrib: eh? An upgrade is the process of going from an earlier version of Ubuntu to a newer version of Ubuntu with an installed system.
[12:46] <sacarlson> piet: other option is remove the cd from the drive before boot if you don't want to boot it
[12:47] <jrib> petan: read the first line, not the second one...
[12:47] <jrib> !notes | petan
[12:47] <jrib> petan: that has upgrade instructions too if you prefer
[12:47] <petan> aha
[12:47] <petan> ok
[12:47] <jrib> petan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_10.04_LTS_to_Ubuntu_12.04_LTS
[12:47] <fidel> kanyl: we cant answer you that question
[12:47] <fidel> kanyl: at the end you have to answer that yourself
[12:48] <jrib> petan: ubottu's first link seems to not tell you how to bypass the wait for 12.04.1 on desktop (that I can see) but this last link does
[12:48] <piet> i don't know whether my quastion was clear: the question was that i can not start to install ubuntu 12, it just restarts into the ubuntu onto the CD
[12:48] <petan> jrib: that's my problem I was doing the same what is descried there
[12:48] <piet> *question
[12:48] <petan> it doesn't work
[12:49] <jrib> petan: just click the last link
[12:49] <jrib> petan: that I put in this channel
[12:49] <pzn> I need a special "mail account" in which people access using imap, and mails are read-only (no way to move folder, no way to delete message, no way to mark as read)... any ideas?
[12:49] <petan> jrib: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades
[12:49] <sacarlson> kanyl: I wouldn't upgrade remote system unless I had a way to simulate exact system I can touch first
[12:49] <petan> jrib: that's what I read now
[12:50] <jrib> petan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_10.04_LTS_to_Ubuntu_12.04_LTS
[12:50] <piet> so i start wubi, it goes to ubuntu onto the CD when restarts automatically, then it shows an ubuntu desktop, where there is the option install, i click it, it asks what i want (i choose dual install) and then restarts back to ubuntu, but on the CD, thus NOT the install
[12:50] <petan> jrib: I don't have desktop
[12:50] <piet> it's like a circle
[12:50] <jrib> petan: ok then read the section for servers
[12:51] <jrib> petan: if you actually take the time to read and understand what is written, it is all there
[12:51] <sacarlson> piet: you not looking at the wubi boot,  you looking the live cd boot mode
[12:51] <piet> @sacarlson??? what do you mean?
[12:52] <Tzem> how to play a file .dv4?
[12:52] <sacarlson> piet: you keep saying wubi,  wubi is where you run a virtual like ubuntu within your windows partition
[12:52] <jrib> petan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer#From_10.04_to_12.04 here's the section in the notes if you prefer
[12:52] <petan> jrib: I found that
[12:52] <somedude> ¡Hello! Do any of you use a time tracking software? which one?
[12:52] <jrib> petan: and?
[12:52] <petan> jrib: I am trying it
[12:53] <piet> ok, so i should change my bios then, in order to get on the CD? so, how do i enter my bios?
[12:53] <fidel> somedude: it might help if you mention what you want to track for. if i play dumb ...yes - using nagios which tracks time as well ;)
[12:53] <somedude> I've tried hamster time tracker but it has some limitations and I'm looking for an alternative
[12:53] <somedude> mi requirements are:
[12:53] <sacarlson> somedude: I track many things with time,  what are you wanting to track?
[12:53] <petan> jrib: what is "It is generally recommended that users of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS wait until the first point release, due in July, before upgrading. "
[12:53] <petan> does it mean there is no stable version yet?
[12:54] <somedude> 1.- Start/Stop counters through command line (ssh)
[12:54] <somedude> 2.- Track concurrent activities
[12:54] <somedude> Hamster has number1 but not number2
[12:54] <sacarlson> somedude: oh ok track exicution times
[12:54] <jrib> petan: no, it means that it's recommended you wait until a point release to upgrade to 12.04
[12:54] <somedude> yeah, is for tracking any kind of time
[12:54] <somedude> the time you spend doing your everyday tasks and so
[12:54] <petan> aha, then I will upgrade later
[12:55] <jrib> petan: it's fine to upgrade now if that's what you want
[12:57] <bieb> I have to run a script (print.sh) for all users, it is for our print accounting system.. I have followed: http://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/anatomy-of-a-desktop-file/ to create a xxx.desktop file that runs the script. When I copy it from one user to another to test it, it does not execute. The chmod is 755, when I do ls -ll, it shows owner is root root What should I check next?
[12:58] <jrib> bieb: why aren't you just using /etc/xdg/autostart/ ?
[12:59] <jrib> bieb: in any case, does it work with any user?
[12:59] <bieb> jrib: I am going to add it to /etc/xdg/autostart  just figured I should test it first... right?
[12:59] <newcode> what's the exact syntax for granting admin group nopassword privileges in ubuntu natty?
[13:00] <subdesign> fidel: an update was erased some of my AddType setting, resetting it now works..
[13:01] <bieb> jrib: should I just add to autostart and see if that works?
[13:01] <jrib> bieb: did it work with any user yet?
[13:01] <sacarlson> newcode: maybe something like: sacarlson ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[13:01] <newcode> right now I have %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[13:01] <bieb> jrib: I have only tried one regular user
[13:02] <newcode> sacarlson: I tried that but when I exited then I could no longer use sudo :(
[13:02] <bieb> jrib: figured it was something I missed in the setup
[13:02] <jrib> bieb: where did you put the file?
[13:02] <newcode> sacarlson: that's why I'm asking for the exact syntax, seems like the visudo file is a bit touchy
[13:02] <sacarlson> newcode: why not?  what did you use to edit /etc/sudoer with?
[13:03] <bieb> I created it as the default user.. then sudo cp /home/user/Desktop  for testing
[13:03] <sacarlson> newcode: in my case it's only one user not a whole group
[13:03] <newcode> sacarlson: I haven't edited /etc/sudoer yet
[13:03] <rick1121> Hello. I'm trying to install the broadcom-sta driver module, but it doesn't come with dkms in precise. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Note that bcmwl-kernel-source provides an earlier version of this driver (and it's not what I want). https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/broadcom-sta
[13:04] <sacarlson> newcode: the visudo is what's used to edit /etc/sudoers
[13:04] <newcode> sacarlson: ok :)
[13:04] <newcode> sacarlson: I just typed sudo visudo then
[13:04] <sacarlson> newcode: show me your exact line then
[13:05] <crackerjackz> i want an antivirus that specifically looks for linux viruses / malware
[13:05] <amgarching> Hi, how do I fix scrollbars in GTK apps?
[13:05] <newcode> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[13:05] <newcode> sacarlson: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[13:05] <sacarlson> newcode: yes that should get you into the sudoers editor
[13:06] <sacarlson> newcode: that won't add nopassword
[13:06] <newcode> sacarlson: what I showed you is what I currently have
[13:06] <jrib> bieb: that command would error out...
[13:06] <sacarlson> newcode: yes before you add to a group try it on a single user first
[13:06] <bieb> jrib: why?
[13:07] <jrib> bieb: because cp expects at least 2 arguments
[13:07] <newcode> sacarlson: how so?
[13:07] <g[r]eek> Hi how do I determine which email server is running on my server?
[13:07] <sacarlson> newcode: did you read my above?   newcode  ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[13:07] <bieb> jrib: cp worked.. I just didnt put whole command here..
[13:07] <llutz> g[r]eek: sudo lsof -i :25
[13:07] <jrib> bieb: then I still don't know where you put the file...
[13:08] <gry> After upgrade to 11.10, system says 'waiting for network configuration' 'waiting 60 more seconds for network configuration' 'booting without full network configuration' then boots normally; commenting all lines in /etc/network/interfaces (http://pastebin.ca/2160842) is a workaround; what is the real problem and how can it be fixed please?
[13:08] <jrib> bieb: the per-user directory for autostart is ~/.config/autostart/ .  If you want, you can just use the gui tool to create a startup program and it will create a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart/ for you
[13:08] <g[r]eek> llutz++
[13:08] <g[r]eek> thanks
[13:08] <sacarlson> newcode: change newcode to your user name for passwordless account
[13:08] <newcode> sacarlson: cool, done!
[13:08] <softmanpetro> how can I find the upTime of the server to last reboot ?
[13:08] <softmanpetro> i already did the reboot
[13:08] <newcode> sacarlson: I guess I should test this
[13:08] <jrib> softmanpetro: uptime
[13:09] <bieb> jrib: ok.. let me try that
[13:09] <sacarlson> newcode: yes now login to that acount and try sudo ls
[13:09] <newcode> ok
[13:10] <softmanpetro> it said 58 minutes jrdnn
[13:10] <softmanpetro> it said 58 minutes jrib
[13:10] <newcode> sacarlson: it seems like it worked
[13:10] <softmanpetro> and I need last uptime no the current one
[13:10] <newcode> sacarlson: so now I just do the same for the group admin, same syntax?
[13:10] <rick1121> Would anyone be able to give a pointer with adding a kernel module that does not have dkms packaged?
[13:11] <sacarlson> newcode: yes for group you add % in front of the group name
[13:11] <newcode> sacarlson: thanks so much :) that really helped
[13:11] <sacarlson> newcode: don't blame me if you get hacked
[13:12] <newcode> sacarlson: lol
[13:12] <jrib> softmanpetro: maybe the « last » command and some math then
[13:12] <bieb> jrib: the .desktop is named pc-client-linux.sh.desktop
[13:18] <__Hybris__> cipy
[13:18] <patc> Hello! How can I disable kernel updates? I've got an updated kernel installed and don't want apt-get upgrade to install upgrades. My kernel is newer than the one that the updater wants to install.
[13:19] <bieb> jrib: can I message you? I am losing your questions in the room
[13:19] <ruvil> hi
[13:20] <fira> patc: so you mean you manually installed yours without using the package manager ?
[13:20] <mithran> am using ubuntu 12.04 i want to make a Bootable Master CD/DVD of my ubuntu Packages for formatting my computer what shall i do
[13:21] <ruvil> i just tried to dist-upgrade my ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and it returned this error: http://pastebin.com/xGBd1imh how should i solve this?
[13:21] <jrib> bieb: I'd prefer not
[13:21] <bieb> jrib: ok.. did you see the desktop command that was created with the startup program gui?
[13:22] <jrib> bieb: the name is fine
[13:22] <bieb> ok
[13:22] <bieb> jrib: what do you want me to try now?
[13:22] <jrib> bieb: did it not work?
[13:22] <bieb> I havent restarted yet
[13:23] <bieb> jrib: wasnt sure if you wanted me to restart.. copy the .desktop to a user or to /etc/xdg/autostart
[13:24] <jrib> bieb: if it's in the users ~/.config/autostart/ you can just leave it in there for now and test
[13:24] <mithran> hello  ia want to formatt my computer and re install all the current software in ...What Shall I do for making my ubuntu DVD????????
[13:25] <jrib> !clone | mithran
[13:25] <bieb> jrib: ok.. will be back in a min
[13:27] <ptu> hi
[13:27] <mithran> jrib: how can we use !Clone
[13:27] <jrib> mithran: !clone just has ubottu send you info
[13:27] <ptu> who can help me, why my laptop cannot shutdown
[13:27] <gry> (resent) After upgrade to 11.10, system says 'waiting for network configuration' 'waiting 60 more seconds for network configuration' 'booting without full network configuration' then boots normally; commenting all lines in /etc/network/interfaces (http://pastebin.ca/2160842) is a workaround; what is the real problem and how can it be fixed please?
[13:27] <mithran> jrib: What is the Command osing in the terminal?
[13:27] <gry> ptu: What happens when you try?
[13:27] <judgen> Is there anyway to use the Hudson azalia chip without pulseaudio installed?
[13:28] <ptu> i cannot shutdown when i press button shutdown on menu
[13:28] <jrib> mithran: the one ubottu said
[13:28] <ikonia> gry: is it fighting with network manager
[13:28] <piet> HP laptop, 64bit, win7: ubuntu 12 does not install: when starting PC up, have GRUB, choose ubuntu, it goes to ubuntu desktop (from CD) choose to install, then it asks kind of install (dual-boot) and the pc restarts, after it throws out CD, then it goes to "no media to read from) or when i not close the CDtray, it goes back to the ubuntu desktop from CD without install...i'm in a loop
[13:29] <behzad> hi there
[13:29] <Joselin> hello
[13:29] <gry> ikonia: I don't know, I think I have NetworkManager installed but I don't know what it's fighting with
[13:29] <behzad> I have a problem with internet connection using ADSL broadband
[13:29] <ikonia> gry: if you comment out the lines in /etc/interface does it work/boot straight away
[13:29] <ptu> gry:it shown shutdown screen for a time and then nothing happen
[13:29] <judgen> ptu, does "gksu halt" work?
[13:29] <behzad> does anybody to help me please>?
[13:29] <gry> ikonia: Yes
[13:30] <ikonia> gry: that suggests to me it's fighting
[13:30] <ikonia> gry: when you comment out the interface lines, does it come up with any networking configured ?
[13:30] <ptu> judgen: i don't know, let me try button command shutdown not work
[13:30] <Joselin> i have got a problem
[13:31] <Joselin> why appear here cone
[13:31] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[13:31] <sacarlson> piet: when you selected to install (dual-boot) did you have a spare partition to install it on?
[13:31] <gry> ikonia: in both cases, I log in to xfce and have working networking
[13:31] <Tetracomm> Does anyone here know of a way to get the Hauppauge HVR-850 tv tuner to work in Ubuntu?
[13:31] <Kenny__> hello? I cannot get my Wubi installer to start up. So cant even install ubuntu
[13:31] <behzad> any body help me ????
[13:32] <ikonia> gry: ok, that suggests network manager is having a little fight, hence the 60 second wait
[13:32] <ikonia> gry: do you need/want network manager /
[13:32] <gry> behzad: we can't help with 'a problem' but if you ask a full question that can change! :)
[13:32] <5EXAA310K> hey
[13:32] <piet> @sacarlson: it never asked for one... do i need one? because i have 4 already... :s
[13:33] <gry> ikonia: I would just need working networking and the networking applet I currently have; if networkmanager isn't needed for any of that, I can probably disable it
[13:33] <ikonia> gry: yeah, you can dump it
[13:33] <sacarlson> piet: if you have 4 you just need to select of the one you wish to install to,  remind you that the selection will delete all contents on that partition
[13:33] <Kenny__> I cannot get my Wubi installer to start up. So cant even install ubuntu. Any help?
[13:33] <gry> ikonia: could you probably send an URL to me about what its role/activity is, what does it do?
[13:34] <ikonia> gry: I'm assuming your prefered choice is to set the networking in the interface file
[13:34] <mi3> hello, I am getting 30-60 % cpu usage while browsing in firefox, I am not watching any flash videos, just scrolling web pages, I am using cairo-dock session with compiz enabled, any suggestions ?
[13:34] <ikonia> gry: I can try to dig one out for you, hang on
[13:34] <piet> i have none which can be deleted, all 4 have their proper use... can i only have 4?
[13:34] <behzad> I've installed new version of ubuntu 11.10, in my system,connecting to my Adsl is able using broad band connection by lan or wireless. I've created a connection there but I can't connect to internet. can you help me ???????
[13:34] <nelson8874> using onboard graphics on a P8Z68-V LX board. Ubuntu 12.04 beahaving strange. Some slowdowns and stuff. You know why?
[13:34] <NoVoteLoss> mi3 try different browsers and see if you have the same issues
[13:34] <sacarlson> Kenny__: might try live cd/usb boot instead of wubi
[13:34] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, ok
[13:34] <ikonia> gry: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager legacy article, but scanning it seems true now apart from it doesn't mention the dnsmasq setup
[13:34] <gry> ikonia: I need that file for the n900 interface but I do the desktop networking using the networking applet in xfce which I don't know what is named and what application it uses
[13:34] <gry> ikonia: many thanks
[13:34] <Kenny__> sacarlson: no go- no cd drive, and cannot boot USB
[13:35] <NoVoteLoss> mi3 happens to me too sometimes, im currently trying out like 4 browsers because of that
[13:35] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, err ok :D
[13:35] <ikonia> gry: in that case it maybe easier to just remove the non-n900 interface from network manager control
[13:35] <sacarlson> Kenny__: there is software to enable a system that doesn't support usb boot to enable usb boot you can try plop
[13:35] <NoVoteLoss> mi3 and i have the same dock, and it happened before the dock so it shouldnt be that
[13:35] <ptu> i can't shutdown system
[13:35] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, I am currently installing chromium, will tell you the cpu usage in a few moments :D
[13:35] <ptu> gksu halt not work
[13:35] <nelson8874> using onboard graphics on a P8Z68-V LX board. Ubuntu 12.04 beahaving strange. Some slowdowns and stuff. You know why?
[13:35] <ptu> shutdown not work too
[13:36] <ikonia> gry: sorry, remove the n900 interface from network manager control, not the non-n900 interface
[13:36] <Kenny__> sacarlson: used it before, forgot there was a way to use it without CD. Thanks
[13:36] <ptu> who can help me
[13:36] <ikonia> ptu: sudo shutdown -h now
[13:36] <patc> fira: sorry.. i'm back... yes I did install it with apt-get
[13:36] <NoVoteLoss> mi3 i hate chrome but it does seem to work better
[13:36] <ptu> ikonia: not work :(
[13:36] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, me too !
[13:36] <ikonia> ptu: define "not work"
[13:36] <NoVoteLoss> which is why im trying out a few others.
[13:36] <behzad> did you told to me ? that   in that case it maybe easier to just remove the non-n900 interface from network manager control??????
[13:36] <gry> ikonia: ok, I'll give it a read; I'm unaware what the nm control is but I'll try
[13:36] <ptu> ikonia: it show shutdown screen but nothing happen
[13:37] <ikonia> gry: it's basically the backend to the applet you use
[13:37] <ikonia> ptu: "shutdown screen" ?
[13:37] <nelson8874> using onboard graphics on a P8Z68-V LX board. Ubuntu 12.04 beahaving strange. Some slowdowns and stuff, mouse cursor behaving strange (slow and fast) You know why?
[13:37] <behzad> where is the non-n900 interface ?
[13:37] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, how many browsers have you tried, and which one gives you the lowest cpu usage, sir ?
[13:37] <ikonia> behzad: something gry is using
[13:37] <ptu> ikonia: a screen with logo ubuntu
[13:37] <gry> ikonia: oh, I won't want to remove the backend I guess - and the applet doesn't really have n900 so removng n900 from nm control doesn't really sound doable I'm afraid :)
[13:38] <ikonia> gry: ok, let me think on how to best manage this
[13:38] <NoVoteLoss> mi3, opera, chrome, firefox, iceweasel, midori(cant get to work that well) and konqueror
[13:38] <behzad> is any body there to help me ?????
[13:38] <ikonia> gry: I've seen similar things with "bluetooth" network devices in the past.
[13:38] <NoVoteLoss> mi3 and chrome wins :(
[13:38] <NoVoteLoss> but i hate it
[13:38] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, xD
[13:38] <NoVoteLoss> so im still trying and tweaking
[13:38] <rootkit> behzad: State your problem and someone will deal with it. Asking to ask is just a waste of everyones bandwidth.
[13:38] <NoVoteLoss> i really cant stand anything google
[13:39] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, can the cause of high cpu usage be compiz ?
[13:39] <ikonia> gry: in your network manager applet what interfaces do you see ?
[13:39] <nelson8874> using onboard graphics on a P8Z68-V LX board. Ubuntu 12.04 beahaving strange. Some slowdowns and stuff, mouse cursor behaving strange (slow and fast) You know why?
[13:39] <NoVoteLoss> mi3 i had it happen before compiz or any dock
[13:39] <gry> !network | behzad, please read a bit here (we would probably need more details on what happens; the guide gives troubleshooting guide info too):
[13:39] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, err ok
[13:39] <dancingbear> exit
[13:39] <gry> ikonia: autho eth0
[13:39] <gry> ikonia, auto eth0 **
[13:40] <ikonia> gry: check out (not sure if this is still valid on 11.10) /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[13:40] <ikonia> gry: ok, so dhcp on eth0 only
[13:40] <ikonia> gry: is the interfaces file configuing eth0 /
[13:40] <ikonia> ?
[13:40] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, have you tried some other distro ?
[13:40] <behzad> ok thanks , bye now,
[13:40] <Applesouce> Hey I want to install Ubuntu on the 500GB Partition? Should I only create root or also /home and how much should I give what partition?
[13:40] <NoVoteLoss> on this computer? yes
[13:40] <ikonia> Applesouce: up to you
[13:40] <gry> ikonia: http://pastebin.ca/2160859
[13:40] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, which one ?
[13:40] <NoVoteLoss> Crunchbang worked fine with no hangs mi3
[13:41] <nelson8874> using onboard graphics on a P8Z68-V LX board. Ubuntu 12.04 beahaving strange. Some slowdowns and stuff, mouse cursor behaving strange (slow and fast) You know why?
[13:41] <ikonia> gry: rats
[13:41] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, ok, did it give you high cpu usage ?
[13:41] <Applesouce> Well is there a adventage of devising into root and home
[13:41] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, while browsing, I mean
[13:41] <gnubie> ptu, ikonia   the bug report shows no been has been assigned yet. From a terminal sudo halt -p usually works or hold the laptop power button down for a few seconds.
[13:41] <gry> ikonia: feel free to stab me for upgrading ubuntu so it broke :) I should have installed it fresh when it had major releases as per the guides but I just upgraded anyway ;)
[13:41] <NoVoteLoss> mi3 not at all! other than watching like a youtube video or other streaming, general usage and browsing never brought CPU usage over 15-20% total
[13:42] <ikonia> gry: can we do a little test ?
[13:42] <gry> i could try
[13:42] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, sounds cool, sir !
[13:42] <Applesouce> Isnt home placed on root anyway so it would be the same on the end
[13:42] <ikonia> gry: change the line "managed=false" to "managed=true" put your details back in the interfaces file and bounce the box
[13:42] <ikonia> gry: if I'm correct it should boot without waiting
[13:43] <gry> ikonia: ok thanks, I will give that a try within 24 hours and give you a shout :)
[13:43] <ikonia> gry: I'd be interested in knowing
[13:43] <Meridious> Can anyone here explain High Availability and Load Balancing Clusters to me?
[13:43] <ikonia> Meridious: in what respect ?
[13:43] <ikonia> Meridious: they are services that never go down and distribute the load across multiple devices ?
[13:43] <ikonia> in what respect do you want to link that to ubuntu
[13:43] <Meridious> What are they, what do they do, how are they different?
[13:43] <Orian> Http://net-webradio.fr/?v=145
[13:44] <ikonia> Meridious: try ##networking
[13:44] <Orian> Http://net-webradio.fr/?v=145
[13:44] <Meridious> k
[13:44] <ikonia> Orian: please stop that
[13:44] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, its still downloading, hope you are with me, sir
[13:44] <Orian> ikonia › Oke tu parle français ?
[13:44] <ikonia> !fr | Orian
[13:44] <NoVoteLoss> mi3 yup for about another 20
[13:44] <fep> always when i drink three bottle of strong beer (alc. 8,2 vol) my system goes real slow, any tips or tricks to fix that?
[13:45] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, will take no more than 5 min :D
[13:45] <ikonia> fep: stop messing around, this is your only warning
[13:45] <fep> ikonia: sorry, wont repeat that
[13:45] <ikonia> thank you
[13:46] <chintanparikh> Hey all, I'm having an issue with dual monitors in Ubuntu
[13:46] <chintanparikh> I have them set up fine via AMD Catalyst Center, but Ubuntu is no longer snappy/responsive
[13:46] <fep> i have a new minilaptop with a c-60 (amd) in it.. i tried to install wubi and it went real slow. will it go smoother with an original standard installation?
[13:46] <adamk> chintanparikh: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[13:47] <chintanparikh> Like, I'll type, and it'll come up half a second later. Same with when I switch tabs and pretty much all actions
[13:47] <zenguy_vm> account add oscar jfalpha family login.messaging.aol.com
[13:47] <zenguy_vm> account on
[13:47] <chintanparikh> adamk, two seconds
[13:48] <bieb> jrib: ok.. the startup doesn't work. so I opened a command prompt and tried to launch the program at /usr/local/bin and here is the result:  http://pastebin.com/61Bh2uYe
[13:48] <d0x> Hi, does someone know a channel where i can ask wich datasource maxmind.com has?
[13:49] <d0x> to get the geo location
[13:49] <jrib> bieb: this is an issue with your script
[13:49] <bieb> jrib:  looks like java isnt on the server, but it is.. I installed java
[13:49] <jrib> bieb: pastebin your script
[13:50] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, incredible, I tried a few pages on chromium, and the cpu usage sticks below 30%
[13:50] <bieb> jrib: ok.. it is the script that comes from the software company
[13:50] <mi3> err NoVoteLoss ?
[13:51] <NoVoteLoss> mi3 still here.
[13:51] <fep> ikonia: do you know anything about if ubuntu will run faster when installed standard instead of wubi installation?
[13:51] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, ok, I told you :D, so now ?
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> fep full install should be faster then wubi
[13:52] <ikonia> fep: my personal view is yes, I don't believe in the concept of wubi personally, the official answer may differ
[13:52] <judgen> fep, it will have better access time as it does not have to run through the by now very old NTFS filesystem of windows.
[13:52] <chintanparikh> adamk: http://pastebin.com/BzaVEdpv
[13:53] <judgen> but the CPU or GPU speeds should not be affected. But swapping will be slower
[13:53] <bieb> jrib: here is the script:  http://pastebin.com/h9rXNHUR
[13:55] <ruff3r> Is there a bug with thunderbird and unity? If I open thunderbird I get a new Symbol in the sidebar instead of the dot?
[13:55] <adamk> chintanparikh: Nothing jumps out at me as being particularly bad in there.  Does this problem happen if you don't use any compositing?
[13:56] <mi3> NoVoteLoss, ??
[13:56] <chintanparikh> Compositing?
[13:56] <chintanparikh> As in dual screens?
[13:56] <judgen> chintanparikh, no as in 3D enabled desktop.
[13:56] <mi3> hello, I am getting 30-60 % cpu usage while browsing in firefox, I am not watching any flash videos, just scrolling web pages, I am using cairo-dock session with compiz enabled, any suggestions ?
[13:56] <chintanparikh> I'm not too sure, how would I check?
[13:57] <ruff3r> forget I asked. just added it to the launcher again
[13:57] <myhero> when i am installing vlc media player from software center it is installing with its icon in launcher but when i am installing vlc offline fron the debs copied from the cache it is installing fine and working fine also but without its icon in launcher.....is there anything wrong or i am doing it wrongly ?
[13:58] <jrib> myhero: where did you get the deb?
[13:59] <sgp913> Hi all, on my 11.04 install, apt-get decided to update my nvidia drivers for my ION-based htpc and now after bootup the screen will go blank (no signal over hdmi) after about 30 seconds, sometimes more, sometimes less. I reinstalled 12.04 as well as XMBC Live to see if it would make a difference, but nothing has changed. I've googled for a bit but nobody seems to have the same issue. Any advice on where to begin? I've already updated
[13:59] <myhero> jrib: i copied the debs fron the cache when i previously installed it from software center.....
[14:00] <sacarlson> myhero: if the old one works can't you just add it to the launcher?
[14:00] <myhero> sacarlson: means
[14:01] <sacarlson> myhero: maybe I don't understand what a launcher is?
[14:01] <myhero> i copied the debs frm var/cache/apt/archives
[14:01] <myhero> i copied the debs frm /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:02] <sacarlson> myhero: I thought you could add any application you wanted to the launcher to make it easy to start
[14:02] <Japser> Hi can someone help me with my tv card, it makes my kernel crash?!
[14:03] <bieb> jrib: anything look odd in that script?
[14:03] <sacarlson> Japser: i've had one tv card that only works in one of the two slots in my computer I guess some kind of irq conflict
[14:03] <hanke> @Darminsurvivor: Disk check was fine (no problems found). I reinstalled again (now with a 10Gb partition in front like my original 10.04 had) The 10.04 was working flawlessly and i could imagine a harddisk problem somewhere, but this also did NOT solve the problem. I still have a 12.04 that will ask me to login but after i supply the correct password, the system will 'hang' (i am still able to move the mouse) and after a long while i get a message 
[14:03] <KLK239> Hi!
[14:03] <Japser> sacarlson: I have only one pci slot!
[14:04] <myhero> sacarlson: yeah i can add manually but previously when installed through software center it got added to launcher by itself and now doing manually it is not adding....i m running live 12.04 and whenever i boot i install it manually thatsy....
[14:05] <myhero> jrib: ???
[14:06] <myhero> ikonia: u there ?
[14:06] <Japser> Please can some expert tell me why my kernel crashes when i put my tv tuner in my computer?
[14:06] <sacarlson> myhero: I still run 10.04 i'm not an expert at 12.04 with unity,  it's just a few clicks away on 10.04 to add to apps to the pannel for quick start,  it keeps even after reboot.  another reason for me not to upgrade to 12.04 I guess
[14:07] <nelson8874> having problems wit P8Z68-V LX motherboard. Am i the only one?
[14:08] <sacarlson> myhero: maybe try the ppa for VLC, but I also tried that and it didn't work with the android remote control anymore,  so if that's not important to you then?
[14:09] <ikonia> myhero: what ?
[14:09] <myhero> i copied the debs frm var/cache/apt/archivesthing needs to be updated and installed...
[14:09] <myhero> ikonia: how r u....
[14:10] <ikonia> myhero: I'm fine ? what do you want ?
[14:10] <Dj_FlyBy> So I had a power surge at my house yesterday due to a storm. I wasn't home at the time and when I got home my computer was turned off from the surge. Now when I turn it on it gets to the point where it "appears" to be loading (The coloured dots) but does not pass this point. What could be wrong?
[14:10] <myhero> how to save the apps installed through software center ?
[14:10] <nelson8874> having problems wit P8Z68-V LX motherboard. Am i the only one?
[14:11] <Meridious> Dj_Flyby: I bet it is because the OS did not shut down properly
[14:11] <ikonia> what do you mean save them ?
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> !clone | myhero
[14:11] <Meridious> Dj_Flyby: try booting into recovery mode
[14:11] <Meridious> Dj_Flyby: through grub
[14:11] <sacarlson> Dj_FlyBy: It could be running the fsck to test your drives after a bad shutdown it might take some time depending on size of disk
[14:12] <sacarlson> Dj_FlyBy: oh but that should be displayed
[14:12] <myhero> ikonia: means i run live 12.04 from usb so when i boot everything installed is gone so i want to save whatever i install so that next time i can install them manually so as saving time and more importantly the limited bandwidth....
[14:12] <freedomrun> is it possible to publish an folder in Obuntu One?
[14:13] <Dj_FlyBy> Meridious, how does one get to that grub menu?
[14:13] <ikonia> myhero: I don't really recommend that option, you need to download the debs and all their dependencies to do that, and it's just not worth it, just use a proper install or look at a persistant install
[14:14] <myhero> ikonia: what do u mean by proper and persistant ?
[14:14] <Meridious> Dj_Flyby: It should always pop up after your computer displays its BIOS stuff
[14:14] <kael_> hi
[14:14] <Dj_FlyBy> Meridious, nope... it just goes to the screen to load Ubuntu... never seen grub once
[14:15] <ikonia> myhero: proper = install to disk
[14:15] <Meridious> Dj_Flyby: if not, press the key to select a boot device at boot, and select your drive with the ubuntu install
[14:15] <ikonia> myhero: persistant = live CD with persistant disk based storage
[14:15] <myhero> ikonia
[14:15] <Meridious> Dj_Flyby: this might force it to display
[14:15] <myhero> ikonia: plz throw some light on persistant
[14:15] <Meridious> Dj_Flyby: not entirely sure here
[14:15] <Dj_FlyBy> Meridious, nope, just went to the little dots to load the os
[14:16] <ikonia> !persistant | myhero
[14:16] <Meridious> Dj_Flyby: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[14:18] <myhero> ikonia: also what i usually do is whenever i install any app from software center then its debs get downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives so i copy these debs to other usb and then next time when i boot live i install these copied debs sudo dpkg -E -G -i <directory>/*.deb
[14:18] <sacarlson> Dj_FlyBy: might try hold the shift key at boot to get to the grub menu and try select the rescue mode as an option if it fails to boot
[14:19] <alpi_bel> !ru
[14:20] <myhero> !hi
[14:20] <ikonia> myhero: so what's the problem ?
[14:22] <myhero> doing this way vlc media player is running fine but its installing without its icon in launcher....xine-ui is showing some errors for dependency but when installed after vlc then it also is installing fine....ubuntu restricted extras is showing some errors for flash....
[14:23] <myhero> ikonia: doing this way vlc media player is running fine but its installing without its icon in launcher....xine-ui is showing some errors for dependency but when installed after vlc then it also is installing fine....ubuntu restricted extras is showing some errors for flash....
[14:23] <sacarlson> myhero: your method of installing will not always bring in all the dependancies
[14:24] <jrib> bieb: does this script work anywhere?  Seems like there are some relative paths in there...
[14:25] <myhero_> sacarlson: any way to make offline deb which install fine....with all the files and dependencies....
[14:25] <sdfsd64> sup 'ma niggaz:)
[14:25] <myhero_> any way to keep all the installed apps with all the dependencies....
[14:26] <sacarlson> myhero_:  I've created local repository to make things load faster but seems you need to just setup persistance
[14:26] <opp4> hi!!!
[14:27] <myhero_> sacarlson: how have you ccreated local repos ?
[14:27] <sacarlson> myhero_: you should be asking how do I setup persistance as given to you above
[14:28] <sacarlson> myhero_: a local repository is used to install the same software sytem group onto a group of computers
[14:28] <myhero_> sacarlson: brother i know that learned that b4....but right now i cant install os to disk coz hdd got crashed....so i m running live
[14:28] <jondoe2> I switched apparmor for selinux earlier, but it didn't work well with ubuntu, so I changed back to apparmor but now I get "AppArmor not available as kernel LSM. [fail]"
[14:28] <jondoe2> what's wrong?
[14:29] <myhero_> sacarlson: yeah how to create local.....
[14:29] <sacarlson> myhero_: you have a usb drive don't you?  with that you can setup persistance
[14:30] <myhero_> sacarlson: yeah
[14:33] <sacarlson> myhero: I've never done it so I'm no expert but you might try reading about it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[14:33] <Jonii_> Hey, can I get two separate logins, with unity and stuff, open at the same time, using this ctrl+alt+f<number> separate login thing
[14:33] <myhero> sacarlson: ok...
[14:33] <SunSoul> Since Ubuntu 12.04 does not boot with support for EFI, does me creating a FAT32 Partition, labeling it /EFI, matter, in order to isntall grub with EFI support?
[14:33] <myhero> ikonia: u there brother...
[14:33] <crazypete> after installing openbox and setting nodm to load openbox-session, I get "broken pipe" errors and the console and gui is "mixed". How do I fix this?
[14:34] <ikonia> myhero: yes why ?
[14:34] <gigihothot> i installed google sitemap generator but I can't find where is the app
[14:34] <gigihothot> can anyone help
[14:35] <myhero> ikonia: the wi-fi card driver compiling didnt work....it was way too long step for a noob like me....i left it all in between after headache
[14:35] <ikonia> myhero: I didn't think it would work, hence the warnings I gave you
[14:37] <bieb> jrib: hasnt worked on 12.04.. but worked fine in 10.04
[14:37] <Jonii_> what is the google-name for those ctrl+alt+f<number> things?
[14:37] <myhero> ikonia: yeah i read it all but that time i didnt had any choice or alternative ...i wanted to make it work...after that i googled n the most working quote which i found was that the user replaced his broadcom card with intel after fighting with the card for 15 days
[14:37] <jrib> bieb: you should sort that out first
[14:37] <sacarlson> gigihothot: if it was loaded from the repository you should from synaptic right click on the package you installed and view the file list of path of each file in the package
[14:37] <kubanc> is there any simlilar live editor like adobe dreamviewer for Ubuntu?
[14:38] <jrib> bieb: but it really seems like that script can't be moved around, it needs to sit in the appropriate directory
[14:38] <myhero> ikonia: do u get it to the developers or bring something from the developers here....
[14:38] <bieb> jrib: I have tried to call it from the "printlimit" user's home dir, same issue
[14:39] <Sietsem> Hey :)
[14:39] <Sietsem> Someone who can help me?
[14:39] <Sietsem> I' m trying to install Ubuntu
[14:39] <Sietsem> But I'm getting some trouble :/
[14:40] <Sietsem> When I open the installer
[14:40] <niuxiaowang> what trouble?
[14:40] <Sietsem> It asks me if I want updates & closed source software
[14:40] <Pici> !enter
[14:40] <myhero> ikonia: also whenever i boot it shows that restricted drivers available for install for broadcom wi-fi card stating that its tested by ubuntu developers but it dosent works....
[14:40] <niuxiaowang> then?
[14:40] <Sietsem> But as soon as I click next it just freezes, I can't do anything then
[14:40] <Sietsem> I can't even close it normally
[14:42] <sacarlson> Sietsem: what media did you use to install from?   a live cd or live usb or ??
[14:42] <Sietsem> It asks for Wi-Fi connection if I'm not connected already, and it freezes after that. I'm on liveCD now (11.10). It doesn't matter if I take out my network USB
[14:42] <Sietsem> LiveCD
[14:43] <niuxiaowang> maybe you can try  to type order           rfkill  list all
[14:43] <niuxiaowang> to look at the state of hardware or software
[14:43] <sacarlson> Sietsem: so this live cd you booted is the same that you are trying to install?
[14:43] <Sietsem> Yes
[14:44] <applesouce> hello, I have a problem, I've installed Ubuntu on my Computer and when I minimize the terminal its just gone
[14:44] <Sietsem> $ rfkill list all 0: phy0: Wireless LAN 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no
[14:44] <applesouce> I cant maximize it again afterwards, it's not "going" into my sidebar
[14:44] <niuxiaowang> fuch
[14:44] <myhero> Sietsem: i dont know much but i can tell that i had the same problem and i upgraded to 12.04 and after that not a single freeze until now....
[14:45] <niuxiaowang> fuck
[14:45] <ikonia> myhero: I explained all this to you at the time
[14:45] <ikonia> niuxiaowang: that language is unacceptable
[14:45] <Sietsem> Hm
[14:45] <Sietsem> Well
[14:45] <Sietsem> At first I just installed via Wubi
[14:45] <Sietsem> But that sucked
[14:45] <jrib> bieb: it seems like it's part of some sort of software package, is it not?
[14:45] <Sietsem> And now I' m trying with LiveCD but that doesn't really work either
[14:46] <zackiv31> whats the preferred way to add a directory to $PATH for a given user?
[14:46] <niuxiaowang> then  i dont know why either
[14:46] <sacarlson> Sietsem: I"ve had more luck with live usb installs as my cd's seem to intermitently don't work on my old cd readers
[14:47] <myhero> ikonia: yea....but all that were too much for me....anything out of the box....
[14:47] <Sietsem> Yeah, but the only working USB I have is the one where I put the backup from my old Ubuntu installation xD
[14:47] <sacarlson> zackiv31: a temp add to $PATH or perminent one?
[14:48] <bazhang> !who | niuxiaowang
[14:48] <niuxiaowang> are you american?
[14:48] <zackiv31> sacarlson: permanent
[14:48] <Sietsem> I wonder how I can run the installer via a terminal, maybe that will give some more info about the freeze
[14:48] <bazhang> niuxiaowang, this is ubuntu support only
[14:48] <t432> can connect to mysql-server, if i try to remove, get message package not installed?
[14:48] <Sietsem> Or just a installer I can run in TTY1 is fine for me
[14:48] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic for chat niuxiaowang
[14:48] <sacarlson> Sietsem: I"ve also setup a partition to boot an iso direct from hard disk with an entry in grub, but that requires a spare partition to play with
[14:48] <niuxiaowang> sorry
[14:49] <bieb> jrib: yes.. but that is just the client for linux. the rest of the software package is on an active directory server
[14:49] <niuxiaowang> who can provide me an  chat id where i can talk about daliy life
[14:49] <Sietsem> sacarlson: I will have a look at other options, thanks :)
[14:49] <bazhang> niuxiaowang, I just did
[14:49] <bazhang> !ot | niuxiaowang
[14:50] <myhero> !t432 ma
[14:50] <Pici> !msgthebot > myhero
[14:50] <applesouce> Can someone help me, when I minimize my terminal, it's not minimizing in the Unity Sidebar
[14:50] <sacarlson> Sietsem: another option is pxe boot off lan if you have a spare computer that you can setup to boot from over lan
[14:51] <myhero> !tab
[14:51] <bazhang> myhero, /msg ubottu
[14:53] <alkisg> Err is it normal with Unity that 'alt+f2; sh -c xterm' doesn't do anything?
[14:54] <alkisg> Meh, /sbin/sh -c xterm does work though...
[14:54] <amikrop> Hello, what is the best/simplest GUI app for editing a PDF?
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> !pdf
[14:56] <t432> myhero: ?
[14:58] <hollywoodatheist> how can i install ubuntu server from ubuntu desktop? i am using 12.04. i am searching the repos for ubuntu-server package with synaptic but I can't find it.
[14:58] <alkisg> Meh now it started working... looks like a problem with uninitialized variables somewhere
[15:02] <amikrop> MonkeyDust: yeah, but for editing? It is a schedule (like a sheet), and I want to "highlight" some of its cells
[15:02] <gioacchino> ciao
[15:02] <gioacchino> weeee
[15:03] <glosoli> I tryed to install LibreOffice 3.6 beta from PPA of Webupd8 And I crashed my dpkg: http://dpaste.org/9eIeK/ any ideas how to fix.. ?
[15:03] <alkisg> I'm running unity-2d, could someone running unity-3d verify that pressing "Alt+F2" and then in the execute command dialog writing "sh -c xterm" does NOT open an xterm?
[15:03] <bazhang> glosoli, contact the PPA maintainers. they are not supported here
[15:04] <iaj_> lo there.. whats the command to find out about the mail queue again :(?
[15:04] <llutz> iaj_: mailq
[15:04] <glosoli> bazhang: any way I can revert ? ppa-purge maybe would help  ?
[15:05] <bazhang> glosoli, ppa-purge is what I would do, yes
[15:05] <glosoli> bazhang: ah I dont have ppa-purge in system and dpkg is dead
[15:05] <glosoli> :>
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> amikrop  edit with inkscape
[15:06] <amikrop> MonkeyDust: it will handle it like an image?
[15:08] <LmAt> at http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/kbd/font-formats-1.html (it works right?) the paragraph with text, "this font position".
[15:08] <LmAt> I don't understand that paragraph, does someone else understand it?
[15:08] <LmAt> It looks like each glyph in the font should have a unicode point assigned to it...
[15:08] <amikrop> MonkeyDust: anyway thanks
[15:08] <LmAt> Or perhaps more than one point mapped to it.  But I don't see how that can be with this protocol.
[15:09] <DeltaHeavy> My Ubuntu installation is starting to every so often mess up all theme colours making things appear very oddly. It's also now for some reason taking me ~30 seconds to open up Chrome after a fresh boot and login. Are there any solutions for this problem?
[15:09] <tobi_> I only get a resolution of 1024x768, but my monitor supports 1600x1024 :(
[15:10] <alan_> hi
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> !resolution| tobi_
[15:10] <Guest62982> I need help with cron in ubuntu
[15:10] <LmAt> tobi_: Go to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:10] <Guest62982> I need help with cron in ubuntu
[15:11] <llutz> !details | Guest62982
[15:11] <LmAt> tobi_: Change the kernel boot line and add "vga=33443", then restart, it will ask you what monitor mode you want, take note of the one that is correct.
[15:11] <LmAt> tobi_: Then, start your computer and replace 33443 with the monitor mode you like.
[15:11] <wrapids> For some reason I seem to be having problems saving files. Initially I was using Eclipse with the RSE plugin to browse and load files over SSH. Everything was working for a few days then suddenly some files stopped being updated at the remote site. Not all of them. Some of the files that are no longer being updated were created with my account, some of them are older and came with the original system. I switched over to Subclipse (Eclipse Subversion plugin)
[15:11] <wrapids> and had the same problem. It would make the changes locally and save it in the cached version,but still no update at the remote site. I scrapped Eclipse thinking that it was an Eclipse issue but now I'm having the same problem with RapidSVN.
[15:11] <LmAt> tobi_: This all assumes you're using GrUB <2.
[15:12] <Guest62982> I have 1 sh with 2 config that do not run
[15:12] <Guest62982> -rwxr-xr-x 1 respaldo ftp 328 2012-06-08 18:15 dirbackup.config
[15:12] <Guest62982> -rwxr-xr-x 1 respaldo ftp 328 2012-06-08 18:15 dirbackup.config
[15:12] <Guest62982> -rwxr-xr-x 1 respaldo ftp 845 2012-06-12 16:00 respaldo.sh
[15:12] <kubanc> what wireless mouse and keyboard do you suggest for Ubuntu?
[15:12] <Guest62982> -rwxr-xr-x 1 respaldo ftp 596 2012-06-11 15:40 variables.config
[15:12] <Guest62982> but this -rwxr-xr-x 1 respaldo ftp  56 2012-06-12 16:39 ej.sh have work
[15:12] <Guest62982> any ideas?
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> !enter| Guest62982
[15:13] <Guest62982> !enter
[15:13] <Guest62982> sorry
[15:13] <LmAt> Guest62982: forgiven
[15:14] <wrapids> kubanc: Something comfortable.
[15:14] <Guest62982> if I use crontab -e dont work but if I use sudo vi crontab, the ej.sh have work
[15:15] <myhero> where is irssi log saved locally ?
[15:15] <kubanc> wrapids, i need companies and models name...
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> myhero  in ~/.irssi, but log is not activated by default
[15:16] <wrapids> kubanc: Most wireless keyboards and mice will work with Ubuntu... It's just a matter of preference. I find Razr products quite comfortable.
[15:17] <dmsuperman> What's the quickest/easiest way to set up a VNC server on my remote machine such that I don't have to restart X
[15:17] <myhero> MonkeyDust: checed the directory, there is no log in it....how to activate it or get the log....any way to automatically log all the msgs
[15:17] <dmsuperman> any suggested software? I'm unfmiliar with the modern VNC world
[15:18] <DJones> myhero: my irssi logs are in ~./irclogs and that is configured in my irssi config file, so may have been something I changed from the default
[15:18] <christian__> hey guys
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> myhero  type /set autolog=on
[15:18] <compdoc> I like vnc4server, but dunno about restarting X
[15:18] <christian__> can you help me, how do i add a repo to my package manager
[15:18] <christian__> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-freefont  i want to add this
[15:18] <christian__> :D please help me
[15:18] <christian__> i am lost
[15:19] <bazhang> !addppa | christian__
[15:19] <dmsuperman> compdoc: do you know if/how I could run a VNC connection through an SSH tunnel?
[15:19] <theadmin> bazhang: That's not a PPA, just random packages
[15:19] <dmsuperman> so I don't have to open the VNC port on my router
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> myhero  it's /set autolog on
[15:19] <myhero> MonkeyDust: ok...anyway to get all the logs to desktop or any other specified directory
[15:19] <theadmin> christian__: It's not a repo, they just have packages, I guess you just download and install those
[15:19] <christian__> but how do i do ppa:user/ppa-name i just have the link
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> myhero  it's /set autolog off
[15:19] <christian__> yes, i just want to add this ppa
[15:19] <dmsuperman> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[15:19] <compdoc> dmsuperman, i use it through a vpn tunnel
[15:20] <christian__> dmsuperman: but i only have the url :(
[15:20] <dmsuperman> what URL
[15:20] <theadmin> christian__: Your problem is, it's NOT a ppa.
[15:20] <victorliferock> Hellow : P
[15:20] <christian__> but in the forum they named it ppa
[15:20] <christian__> i also was wondering
[15:20] <victorliferock> Alguien habla español ?
[15:20] <dmsuperman> christian__: what URL.
[15:20] <DJones> !es | victorliferock
[15:20] <christian__> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-freefont   they said this is a ppa
[15:20] <theadmin> christian__: It looks like an official Ubuntu package as a matter of fact...
[15:20] <theadmin> !info ttf-freefont
[15:20] <christian__> Just add this PPA and you will get any version of this font you want...they are all supported: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ttf-freefont     thats what they said
[15:20] <theadmin> christian__: There, it's just a package from the official repos: sudo apt-get install ttf-freefont
[15:20] <victorliferock> no... just was asking, thanks for the answer
[15:21] <christian__> otf free font is also contained ? :D yeah
[15:21] <christian__> i ned otf-freefont
[15:21] <myhero> MonkeyDust: any way to retrieve older irssi logs other then going to the archives....
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> myhero  the archives?
[15:21] <theadmin> christian__: It seems to be merged with ttf-freefont now
[15:21] <dmsuperman> christian__: they were mistaken
[15:22] <myhero> MonkeyDust: chat logs archives...
[15:22] <christian__> :( no theadmin... i need the real otf-freefont, otherwise i can't install the game i want
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> myhero  they are stored online,not local
[15:22] <Pici> myhero: ~/irclogs/
[15:22] <christian__> it says ttf-freefont is already the newest version
[15:22] <christian__> then i want to install the game, but it says its missing otf-freefont
[15:22] <victorliferock> Well... i need a recomendation.... I use Xubuntu in my old machine, but still with xubuntu is very slow (Specially with the browsers) so... could be better Lubuntu than xubuntu ?
[15:22] <theadmin> christian__: Well, you can try "sudo apt-get install otf-freefont", but it looks like a dummy package
[15:22] <theadmin> !info otf-freefont
[15:22] <theadmin> Hm.
[15:23] <christian__> no otf-freefont doenst work
[15:23] <christian__> i tried it
[15:23] <myhero> Pici: there is no ~/irclogs/
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> myhero  the archives are not on your pc
[15:23] <christian__> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[15:23] <DJones> !logs | myhero If You're looking for the official logs of the ubuntu channels, they're detailed here:
[15:23] <theadmin> christian__: What game are you trying to install, and more importantly, how? If you're compiling from source you need development libraries
[15:23] <myhero> MonkeyDust: yeah i know...
[15:23] <Pici> MonkeyDust: he was asking about irssi logs
[15:23] <christian__> spring
[15:23] <Pici> myhero: see /set autolog_path
[15:23] <christian__> from repository
[15:23] <Pici> myhero: also /set log
[15:23] <christian__> sudo apt-get install spring
[15:23] <christian__> :)
[15:23] <FloodBot1> christian__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:24] <myhero> Pici: ok
[15:24] <christian__> sry FloodBot1 please excuse me sir
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> myhero  Pici yes and I said to type /set autlog on
[15:24] <theadmin> christian__: Spring is not a game, it's a game *engine*
[15:24] <christian__> i know
[15:24] <christian__> but you just need the engine and some lobby
[15:24] <christian__> then you can download games / maps via the lobby
[15:24] <christian__> but i cant install the newest spring engine cause i am missing otf-freefont
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> christian__  better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:25] <christian__> is this offtopic ? :( its related to ubuntu, cause on 10.04 its non existent
[15:28] <dioarc> what is the package that allows line-updates in the terminal. So instead of a progress bar printing a new line at each update, it uses one printed line and modifies it. ?
[15:28] <sdfsd64> Guys. Just installed Ubuntu-desktop over kubuntu, how can I get rid of kubuntu?
[15:28] <|Scorp|> Hello... I need some help... how can I install webcam drivers in ubuntu 12.04 lts? Thanks.
[15:28] <wrapids> So here's the problem I'm having. Open gedit > open file in remote directory > edit file > save file > close file> open file in same file from remote directory > Changes have been made > close file > open file with vim > no changes have been made to server version.
[15:28] <bazhang> !puregnome | sdfsd64
[15:28] <L3top> christian__: it is a Japanese font? look at otf-ipaexfont
[15:29] <christian__> i dont know... :/ spring dependencies...
[15:29] <christian__> i will try this one L3top
[15:30] <good_samaritan> in to know difference between ultimate edition and version of ubuntu
[15:30] <stefg> Hi room! Obviously the "open with ..." functionality in nautilus changed from 10.04 to 12.04. I want to add xbmc to the list of media players in the right click menu for "open with"... but there's no obvious way. i can "search other application" (xbmc isn't listed there) or "search online" (stupid, i have that app already installed). Any info on how to do it?
[15:30] <sdfsd64> bazhang. Found something similar to that on psychocats.net. It just ****** up the OS entirely, I had to reinstall it. What if I do all that without "......install ubuntu-desktop" at the end?
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> good_samaritan  start here http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ultimate
[15:32] <powerstation> Hey Guys. I want to move a file from me download folder to a ect folder. but i get "No such file or directory" from "mv file.txt /ect/folder". What am i doing wrong?
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> good_samaritan  apparentally, UE is not based on ubuntu, but on mint
[15:33] <good_samaritan> MonkeyDust, let me read
[15:33] <Pici> !ultimate
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> powerstation  it's etc, not ect
[15:34] <powerstation> MonkeyDust, Mistype in the irc. I've used ect in terminal
[15:34] <B0g4r7> also, it's directory, not folder.
[15:34] <powerstation> MonkeyDust, and then again..
[15:34] <good_samaritan> MonkeyDust, Pici ,ubottu  but we share the same  core
[15:35] <good_samaritan> MonkeyDust, Pici ,ubottu  but we share the same  core
[15:35] <powerstation> MonkeyDust, I got it. Thx for the spelling!
[15:35] <Pici> good_samaritan: Ultimate is NOT supported here. Period.
[15:36] <good_samaritan> Pici,  if i install it in ma pc wont u give me assistance when am run errors
[15:37] <Pici> good_samaritan: We will not support any install of Ubuntu Ultimate.
[15:37] <good_samaritan> but now i have errors with this ubuntu 12.04
[15:37] <good_samaritan> Pici, but now i have errors with this ubuntu 12.04
[15:38] <Pici> good_samaritan: Ubuntu Ultimate?
[15:39] <good_samaritan> Pici,  yes UE
[15:39] <wrapids> #linux
[15:39] <wrapids> Sorry
[15:39] <LmAt> wrapids: You are forgivven
[15:39] <Pici> good_samaritan: What part of this channel does not support Ubuntu Ultimate do you not get?
[15:40] <good_samaritan> Pici, refer mr ubottu's commnet
[15:40] <good_samaritan> Pici, refer mr ubottu's comment
[15:40] <nUwb> hello everyone!, I was reading up on my Linux bible and read somewhere about converting binary files into readable files, but I forgot the command for that. Does anyone know that comand?
[15:41] <nUwb> command
[15:41] <ikonia> nUwb: you need to decompile it
[15:41] <graft> hi, so i'm trying to install flashplugin-installer, but it just does nothing, even if i do dpkg-reconfigure
[15:41] <graft> it won't download a new version
[15:41] <good_samaritan> Pici, refer mr ubottu's comment  " There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition"
[15:41] <nUwb> ikonia: how?
[15:41] <soee> ok i have had nging installed but not configured etc so i uninstalled it now when i try to run apache iv got: http://pastebin.com/UfrvTxim
[15:41] <wrapids> I can't get any local text editors to actually save a file remotely. They think they're saving and not giving me errors, its just not happening.
[15:41] <soee> any ideas ?
[15:41] <ikonia> nUwb: you need a decompiler for the language it was witten in
[15:42] <AGrinsPaul> Hey guys anyone interested in signing a petition at Dell's ideastorm forum to end the blacklist and blockade against Ubuntu?
[15:42] <nUwb> iknoia: oh o.k., so if it was written in c I need ....
[15:42] <plonky> hello there
[15:42] <good_samaritan> Pici,  have you get it
[15:42] <bazhang> AGrinsPaul, offtopic here
[15:42] <DJones> good_samaritan: As it says in that Ubottu factoid, Ultimate edition is not supported here
[15:42] <ikonia> AGrinsPaul: not in this channel please.
[15:42] <plonky> any usb serial guru ?
[15:42] <graft> probably because the canonical file is 404'ing hmm
[15:42] <AGrinsPaul> @ikonia @bazhang, where should I go for this?
[15:42] <Meridious> nUwb, you would need a C disassembler or decompiler
[15:43] <Pici> good_samaritan: I know what ubottu said.  I'm confused as to why you continue to ask questions about UE here.
[15:43] <plonky> i got a w510 lenovo and i try to make my gsm qualcomm hardware working
[15:43] <good_samaritan> DJones, stop  stayon  ur side
[15:43] <plonky> under latest ubuntu release
[15:43] <nUwb> Meridious: got it. Thanks Meridious and ikonia
[15:43] <nUwb> ikonia: thanks.
[15:43] <good_samaritan> Pici, i was curious to kknow
[15:43] <AGrinsPaul> ikonia, where can I go to discuss this?
[15:43] <ikonia> AGrinsPaul: #defocus ?
[15:43] <plonky> but it seems all doc i can found on internet are 2years old
[15:44] <plonky> and not talking about latest kernel
[15:44] <plonky> any help from you guys ?
[15:44] <Aline> It's roughly equivalent of software with ruby :P.
[15:45] <AGrinsPaul> I just feel that this is a great issue but I have no idea where to go to discuss it...
[15:45] <Aline> %stats %convo %stopconvo %help.
[15:45] <Pici> Aline: What?
[15:45] <Aline> Quite similar to decompile it adds a puppetmaster?
[15:45] <AGrinsPaul> Posting on Slashdot.org and ycombinator news did nothing and was 0% productive
[15:45] <Aline> Its space i add it is a few min.
[15:45] <ikonia> AGrinsPaul: #defocus as you've been told
[15:45] <Aline> Escott: because its like her when i worked as a way to setup after asking, telling myself "It's right there" and "irb is in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in binary files.
[15:45] <ikonia> AGrinsPaul: what part of "NOT HERE" am I not making clear
[15:45] <Aline> Actually save a hoe.
[15:45] <AGrinsPaul> Got it
[15:45] <Aline> Good_samaritan: ultimate Edition".
[15:45] <AGrinsPaul> ikonia, thanks for the help
[15:45] <Aline> Actually save a hoe.
[15:45] <good_samaritan> Aline, yes
[15:45] <Aline> Its space i want to your favorite open source.
[15:46] <AGrinsPaul> If i have a technical question I will go here
[15:46] <DeltaHeavy> My Ubuntu installation is starting to every so often mess up all theme colours making things appear very oddly. It's also now for some reason taking me ~30 seconds to open up Chrome after a fresh boot and login. Are there any solutions for this problem?
[15:48] <Pici> Aline: Are you done with the nonsense?
[15:48] <P-Chan> how I see what depencencies the package need to compile
[15:48] <smw> P-Chan, apt-cache show [package]
[15:48] <P-Chan> i COMPILED AMSN BUT. When I am generating deb i must put what dependencies needs
[15:48] <smw> P-Chan, sudo apt-get build-dep [package] will just fetch it all for you
[15:48] <P-Chan> smw: ok
[15:50] <plonky> any help for configuring gobi
[15:50] <plonky> and loading wireless gobi2000 on 3.2.0 ?
[15:51] <P-Chan> smw:  E: Impossível encontrar um pacote fonte para amsn
[15:52] <smw> P-Chan, I don't speak french
[15:52] <P-Chan> smw:  sorry :(]
[15:52] <plonky> its not french
[15:53] <plonky> its spanish
[15:53] <P-Chan> plonky: no. It's portuguese
[15:53] <P-Chan> sorry for that
[15:53] <plonky> :)
[15:53] <plonky> im not the one who have grief
[15:53] <KornKage2> portugal will lose today :)
[15:54] <KornKage2> and im from lisbon
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> !ot
[15:54] <P-Chan> KornKage2: I am brazilian
[15:54] <plonky> so nobody can help about this gobi2000 ?
[15:54] <KornKage2> bendter or as i call it BENDER from futurama, will defeat portugal easy :D
[15:54] <KornKage2> for the 3rd time in 2 years
[15:54] <DJones> !ot | KornKage2
[15:54] <KornKage2> ;)
[15:54] <kion> ello everybody I installed the repository "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates" but my nvidia driver is not actualized
[15:57] <DeltaHeavy> My Ubuntu installation is starting to every so often mess up all theme colours making things appear very oddly. It's also now for some reason taking me ~30 seconds to open up Chrome after a fresh boot and login. Are there any solutions for this problem?
[15:57] <plonky> root@netmonk:/lib/udev# ./gobi_loader /dev/ttyUSB0 /lib/firmware/gobi
[15:57] <plonky> Failed to open serial device: : No such file or directory
[15:57] <plonky> usage: ./gobi_loader [-2000] serial_device firmware_dir
[15:58] <plonky> why this /dev/ttyUSB0 isnt created ?
[15:58] <plonky> or doesnt exist in /dev ?
[15:58] <rootkit> sudo lsusb to ensure that ubuntu recognizes it.
[15:58] <plonky> rootkit: it doesnt
[15:59] <plonky> i try to follow each guide i find
[15:59] <plonky> but lsusb doesnt show the qualcomm device
[16:02] <Chuck_Norris> aloha all :D
[16:02] <Chuck_Norris> *sounds of wind*
[16:02] <reza_> hi
[16:03] <reza_> haloooo
[16:04] <NurseDad> can someone please tell me how to watch imbeded quicktime videdo from firefox?
[16:04] <bazhang> NurseDad, apple trailers?
[16:05] <NurseDad> bazhang: yep
[16:05] <bazhang> NurseDad, they are blocked on Linux, wget them
[16:05] <NurseDad> bazhang: they are blocked on Linux?
[16:05] <wrapids> So Ubuntu thinks Eclipse is uninstalled, but it's still working just fine. Why wont this uninstall?
[16:06] <bazhang> NurseDad, yes. you need to wget them
[16:06] <wrapids> Wait. I lied.
[16:06] <NurseDad> bazhang: how do i do that
[16:07] <bazhang> NurseDad, using the wget command to retrieve them
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> NurseDad  link for the video?
[16:10] <NurseDad> MonhkeyDust::http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/126pihbedvcoihbefvbhjkbvsefbg/event/index.html
[16:11] <p1l0t> Anyone have an issue with Chromium coming up with a pop-up saying it has crashed when it has not?
[16:12] <AGrinsPaul> ikonia, thanks but no thanks, amazing how little Linux users do to support their own...
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> p1l0t  type ps -e|grep chromium, it shows a lot of processes, maybe one of those crashed
[16:18] <anonymous_> hgjhg
[16:19] <AceFace1> hello all
[16:19] <AceFace1> is there a way to change the footer at the bottom of an apache index page?
[16:20] <AceFace1> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ <- for example
[16:20] <AceFace1> i want to change "Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server" to say something else
[16:20] <NurseDad> MonkeyDust: that link is http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/126pihbedvcoihbefvbhjkbvsefbg/event/index.html
[16:20] <Turbolinux> Hello everyone. Is it possible to communicate on MSN platform with video and audio functions at the same time? Thank you for your help.
[16:20] <ikonia> AceFace1: that is part of the apache source code, you can disable the foot with ServerTokens
[16:20] <ikonia> AceFace1: but you can't change the text
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> NurseDad  yes, it asks to install quicktime, but i havent tried
[16:21] <AceFace1> bummer, thank you for the info though!
[16:21] <Pici> AceFace1: you can add your own custom footer though.
[16:21] <AceFace1> hmmm, custom footer
[16:21] <NurseDad> MonkeyDust: yea i know i was looking for a plug-in or something
[16:21] <AceFace1> i will look into it
[16:21] <AceFace1> thanks
[16:21] <Turbolinux> Can you help me? I must solve this problem.
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> !find quicktime > NurseDad
[16:22] <NurseDad> MonkeyDust: thanks anyway
[16:23] <NurseDad> very sad
[16:25] <Turbolinux> Can aMSN do this job without any problems?
[16:25] <ikonia> Turbolinux: no
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> Turbolinux  ot without problems: for a start, amsn is no longer in the repos
[16:26] <Turbolinux> Which program is capable for this job? Can be Empahty?
[16:26] <Turbolinux> I understand.
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> Turbolinux  guess nobody has ever tried, why not try empathy and report in the channel
[16:27] <marco> Turbolinux: MS changes MSN implementations details almost periodically. There's no way to reliably support that
[16:27] <ccvvcc> how can i change global file descriptors? /proc/sys/fs/file-nr, first column
[16:27] <Turbolinux> MonkeyDust: You are right. I will try.
[16:28] <Turbolinux> Marco: I know. Shame for us.
[16:28] <marco> Turbolinux: I'd suggest you to use googlchat browser plugin. Works reliably
[16:28] <Turbolinux> I will test it. Thank you.
[16:29] <theadmin> marco: Haven't Microsoft basically abandoned the old MSN protocol and swithced to Jabber instead? (well, that is given that you can only connect to their server with a valid MSN account anyway, but)
[16:29] <marco> theadmin: AFAIK that is only text message and does not includes audio and video
[16:29] <theadmin> marco: Ah, I see
[16:30] <rootkit> For MSN stuff, I would recommend emesene
[16:31] <n-iCe> Hello, how can I share internet using my wi-fi card, to other wi-fi card? I use network-manager I have created the hotspot I can the the AP in other devices it connects gets ips but does not surf the internet, the AP is not sharing internet i THINK
[16:31] <Zally666> Ics
[16:31] <theadmin> !ics | n-iCe
[16:31] <Zally666> Bridge
[16:32] <n-iCe> Let's read
[16:32] <Zally666> Draw
[16:33] <n-iCe> theadmin: I did that, Zally666
[16:33] <n-iCe> Open Settings->Network->Wireless and create a new Ad Hoc network. To use a common denominator for all devices choose WEP for security and create a 5 letters password from 0..9A..F. Note that this a least secure encryption standard.
[16:33] <n-iCe> Don't you read my question? The AP has been created, I can see the AP in other devices(Iphone) but once the device connect can't use the internet.
[16:33] <Zally666> Wardrive on apt?
[16:34] <n-iCe> is that for me Zally666 ?
[16:34] <Zally666> N-ice answer is ics readup
[16:35] <n-iCe> Zally666: I did that
[16:35] <Zally666> No u made an ap
[16:35]  * KornKage2 GOLOOOOOO PORTUGAL POSTIGA
[16:35] <n-iCe> Zally666: what's ICS
[16:36] <Etale> Hi y'all. I'm trying to put a video file on my iPhone. I installed gtkpod, but it says that I don't have a hashinfo file, so it can't do anything. Got any ideas?
[16:36] <n-iCe> I don't get it
[16:36] <Zally666> Internet connection share ubuntu in google
[16:37] <DeltaHeavy> My Ubuntu installation is starting to every so often mess up all theme colours making things appear very oddly. It's also now for some reason taking me ~30 seconds to open up Chrome after a fresh boot and login. Are there any solutions for this problem?
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> Etale  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[16:37] <Etale> Thanks, MonkeyDust
[16:38] <n-iCe> Zally666: I did what the tutorial say I don't get it, I created the AP checked the package to install
[16:39] <Zally666> Delta same issue here., after install of 12?
[16:40] <ccvvcc> how can i change global file descriptors? /proc/sys/fs/file-nr, first column
[16:40] <Zally666> N-ice u must share internet adapter with wifi adapter
[16:40] <Zally666> Ics
[16:41] <n-iCe> I think you don't get me, I have done that, I have two wireless card, and I am connected in one and sharing in other
[16:41] <kjzz121> Who can I talk to about libglib? It's just a few versions behind from the newest, which is causing problems in midori.
[16:42] <mateusz_> witaj
[16:44] <Zally666> N-ice no idea then
[16:51] <rickrock> i have windows on HD (a) and have installed ubuntu 12.04 on HD (b). Now i cant get into the windows. Tell me how to install grub so i can have both windows and ubuntu.
[16:52] <italoxp> Run "sudo update-grub" in the terminal and see if it works.
[16:52] <italoxp> Ubuntu install grub during the setup automatically
[16:52] <theadmin> rickrock: If they're on different drives, you can simply use your BIOS' features to boot from the one you want, but yeah, "update-grub" usually does the trick
[16:53] <rickrock> i will come back need to see the g update grub worked for me!
[16:54] <demoklion> hello, I have a simple noob question. how do I configuje default account in persistence USB?
[16:56] <italoxp> demoklion, I'm afraid I can't help you with that... Have you tried creating it with adduser?
[16:58] <demoklion> yes but there's some default account I'm not able to change via GUI and I'm not very comfortable with the terminal (yet)
[16:58] <rickrock> update grub did not worked , i dont see grub .
[16:59] <karthick87> Do anyone ever used twinkle application ?
[17:01] <rickrock> i have windows on one hdd and installed ubuntu 12.04 on other hdd, i want to install grub but can't see grub after using update grub command, i want to have dual boot .
[17:01] <n-iCe> Hello, how can I share internet using my wi-fi card, to other wi-fi card? I use network-manager I have created the hotspot I can the the AP in other devices it connects gets ips but does not surf the internet, the AP is not sharing internet i THINK
[17:01] <demoklion> n-iCe I don't think you can share internet on the same wifi you use to connect to it
[17:02] <n-iCe> demoklion: I have two wifi cards
[17:02] <demoklion> have you bridged them?
[17:02] <mknarr> n-iCe, some wifi cards come with that capeability
[17:03] <rickrock> how to install grub? i have windows on one hd and ubuntu on other, i want dual boot.
[17:03] <n-iCe> demoklion: how?
[17:04] <n-iCe> demoklion: I mean I crated the hot spot like tutorials says in network-manager, indeed everything seems to be working I can connect in other devices to the AP iahe dhpc working I get ips, but just no internet
[17:04] <theadmin> rickrock: You already have Grub, otherwise Ubuntu wouldn't boot
[17:05] <rickrock> theadmin: the how to get into windows ( i am a newbie)
[17:05] <xGrub11> hello... i have a question... > is every tarball contents the readme file?
[17:05] <theadmin> rickrock: I'm not sure, maybe you're not seeing the menu... Try holding Left Shift while GRUB loads
[17:05] <theadmin> xGrub11: Uh, no... Tarballs are just archives
[17:05] <demoklion> n-iCe: does DNS work? have you tried ping?
[17:06] <rickrock> theadmin : ok i will try that
[17:06] <B0g4r7> n-ice, sounds like youre missing some pieces yet.  You'll need to turn on IP forwarding, and put the appropriate NAT rule into iptables.
[17:06] <theadmin> rickrock: i.e. after the BIOS POST.
[17:06] <xGrub11> is there a default procedure to install tarball?
[17:06] <n-iCe> B0g4r7: I think the same, but don't know what to do
[17:06] <n-iCe> demoklion: how can I test? sorry
[17:06] <theadmin> xGrub11: Nope.
[17:06] <demoklion> n-iCe try ping www.google.com
[17:06] <demoklion> in terminal
[17:07] <B0g4r7> n-iCe, Forwarding is easy.  'echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward'
[17:07] <n-iCe> demoklion: with the device? or the host?
[17:07] <n-iCe> B0g4r7: sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward permission denied
[17:07] <mneptok> xGrub11: "tarball" is the same thing as "zip file."
[17:07] <demoklion> on host it should work if you are online
[17:07] <B0g4r7> Huh, that's odd...
[17:07] <n-iCe> demoklion: I am right now in the host, I have internet or IRC would not work :)
[17:07] <demoklion> it just checks the basic internet connnection
[17:07] <xGrub11> theaddmin: well, so, .... do you have some advice for me if i met a tarball? i'm confuse... thanks before
[17:08] <demoklion> yes so try it on the device
[17:08] <B0g4r7> n-iCe, As for the nat rule, it'd be something like 'iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 ij MASQUERADE'
[17:08] <theadmin> xGrub11: Sometimes there's a README file inside. Sometimes instructions are on the site where you acquire it... But most of the time, you should be using the repositories (through Synaptic, Ubuntu Software Center, or apt-get).
[17:08] <DeltaHeavy> xGrub11: Think of it as a .zip, however uncompressed.  .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 are examples of things more similar to .zip as they're compressed.
[17:08] <B0g4r7> Assuming your private network is 192.168.1.x
[17:08] <demoklion> if it says no connection, try ping your host's ip
[17:08] <B0g4r7> -j MASQUERADE, not ij.  typo.
[17:08] <n-iCe> B0g4r7: Bad argument `ij'
[17:08] <n-iCe> ok
[17:09] <n-iCe> B0g4r7:  now?
[17:09] <B0g4r7> sure
[17:09] <n-iCe> the ip is 10.42.0.85
[17:09] <n-iCe> is what my iphone gets
[17:09] <demoklion> anyone has suggestion how do I edit default user in live USB with persistence? I want some basic security
[17:10] <B0g4r7> mm, well you might wanna apply it to 10.0.0.0/8 then instead of 192.168.1.0/24
[17:10] <xGrub11> theadmin; DeltaHeavy; thanks. :)
[17:10] <theadmin> demoklion: The default username is "ubuntu", so simply run "sudo passwd ubuntu" and that'll let you set the password
[17:10] <demoklion> thanks
[17:11] <__victor> hi, I have ubuntu in virtualbox, and when I try to ssh into it: PTY allocation failed on channel 0: stdin not a tty
[17:11] <__victor> I can't reboot that machine
[17:11] <__victor> can someone help me?
[17:11] <DeltaHeavy> xGrub11: np
[17:11] <demoklion> victor are you trying to ssh into other VM on same machine or through the internet
[17:12] <__victor> demoklion: same machine: i'm on the host, and ssh to the guest
[17:12] <__victor> before it was working.
[17:12] <DeltaHeavy> __victor: That is most likley, although I'm not certain a VM/Networking problem. You might have better luck in those channels
[17:12] <demoklion> have you configured host-only network?
[17:12] <demoklion> uhm
[17:12] <daze> Is there a (not necessarily easy) way to have 'application groups' in unity? You click on a launcher icon, and it expands kinda like the 'dash' icon, revealing applications in that group. I think Apple has sth. similar in the iOS/MacOS.
[17:12] <__victor> demoklion: yes
[17:12] <n-iCe> you know what other devices does not detect it
[17:12] <n-iCe> only the iphone
[17:12] <n-iCe> o.O
[17:12] <B0g4r7> __victor, Is it the case that ssh to the VM normally works, but it's in a broken state now?
[17:12] <__victor> yes
[17:13] <B0g4r7> And you want to recover somehow without rebooting the VM.  Could be tough.
[17:13] <__victor> ok I reboot.
[17:13] <__victor> :S
[17:13] <B0g4r7> Unless you can find an existing open session.
[17:13] <B0g4r7> ssh session
[17:13] <demoklion> I have similar problem, but reboot didn't help
[17:13] <__victor> no...
[17:15] <B0g4r7> For physical hosts, I'm fond of using the serial ports with a terminal server for access in case the IP network falls over.
[17:15] <B0g4r7> I suppose something similar could be done with VMs.
[17:18] <DeltaHeavy> B0g4r7: I doubt he needs to do anything like that at all nor would it be any easier than just fixing the problem normally. IMO see if your VM software has a support channel here and ask there as Id think that's where the problem lies.
[17:24] <sec> somebody knows how I can disable tapping while I scrolling in my touchpad (macbook pro)??? When I do vertical scrolling with two fingers sometimes occur accidental touches (tap)
[17:27] <ruediger> hi
[17:28] <Dj_FlyBy> I am looking for a howto on how to entirely disable and remove the firewall in Ubuntu. Anyone got suggestions?
[17:29] <smw> Dj_FlyBy, by default, the firewall is off
[17:29] <cloudgeek> looking for a coding guru
[17:29] <cloudgeek> !!
[17:29] <smw> Dj_FlyBy, what is your real problem?
[17:29] <smw> cloudgeek, odesk?
[17:30] <ruediger> I want to create a deb package. I have a file vobsub2srt_1.0pre2.orig.tar.gz containing the source code and a directory vobsub2srt_1.0pre2/ containing the debian directory with all the required files. When I call debuild -S it creates a package but it seems to ignore the source in the .orig.tar.gz file and when I call debuild -b I get an error message because the CMakeLists.txt (and everything else) is missing.
[17:31] <iceroot> Dj_FlyBy: its disabled by default
[17:31] <cloudgeek> smw: !
[17:31] <iceroot> cloudgeek: #language-you-are-using
[17:32] <cloudgeek> iceroot: i am newbie , just know some c and python , but i want to learn any , main aim want to do coding this summer
[17:32] <cloudgeek> iceroot: i am newbie , just know some c and python , but i want to learn any , main aim want to do coding this summer
[17:32] <theadmin> cloudgeek: pm me, I wouldn't mind teaching the basics :P
[17:33] <trism> ruediger: -sa forces inclusion of the original source, although if you are just building locally, you can just debuild -b from the extract source directory
[17:35] <ruediger> trism: I already tried running -sa but it has no effect
[17:36] <trism> ruediger: it is mostly useful when uploading to launchpad, I'm not really sure what you are doing. to build a package you just need to dpkg-source -x package.dsc; cd package-dir; debuild -b;
[17:37] <ruediger> trism: I want to upload to launchpad
[17:37] <T3X> is anybody in the world samba worked for him???????
[17:38] <trism> ruediger: then -sa is what you want, debuild -S -sa
[17:38] <trism> ruediger: and the original source will be included in the changes
[17:38] <ruediger> trism: it seems that it ignores the .orig file. Here is the output of debuild http://codepad.org/RUprMQbY
[17:40] <trism> ruediger: that looks fine, except you can't upload to launchpad with -uc -us
[17:40] <ruediger> trism: yeah that was just for the test run :)
[17:40] <ruediger> trism: arg I think I found the problem
[17:41] <ruediger> for some reason I had format set to 3.0 (native) and I guess it should be 3.0 (quilt)
[17:41] <trism> ruediger: ahh yeah that would do it, native packages don't have orig.tar.gz files
[17:44] <tehRidler> My screen locks but i have the setting for that set to off.
[17:45] <Dj_FlyBy> all is good. I just wanted to see a document on removing it as I was confused as to whether or not ubuntu-standard could be removed as it gets removed while removing ufw and iptables, but I found out that ubuntu-standard can be safely removed
[17:45] <trism> ruediger: good catch, I completely missed that
[17:46] <ruediger> trism: ok now it doesn't ignore the orig file but I get warnings like "dpkg-source: warning: ignoring deletion of file CMakeLists.txt" (for every file in the package) and it still doesn't contain the source
[17:46] <alchemist9> the user list made me dizzy......
[17:47] <thebishop> hi, i accidentally lost an init script for openldap.  can i get it back with apt without losing my ldap users?
[17:48] <AceFace1> hello all, how can i rename "htaccess.txt" to ".htaccess" in bash?
[17:49] <Devilz> hi..Is it possible to create a proxy server using a vm ware ubuntu in windows and test that proxy server with windows.. ?
[17:49] <Pici> AceFace1: mv htaccess.txt .htaccess
[17:49] <AceFace1> ah!
[17:49] <AceFace1> mv
[17:49] <AceFace1> damn, been trying rename
[17:50] <AceFace1> thanks Pici, it worked
[17:50] <Pici> AceFace1: np
[17:50] <alchemist9> Anyone have any knowlege about the Imac G3 and Xorg?, So far all I have is a black screen...
[17:50] <trism> ruediger: hmm, not sure without looking at the package, how did you create it?
[17:51] <ruediger> trism: git archive --prefix=vobsub2srt_1.0pre2/ -o vobsub2srt_1.0pre2.orig.tar.gz HEAD
[17:51] <trism> ruediger: oh so it already had a debian directory?
[17:52] <ruediger> yes but it only contains the changelog
[17:52] <itmustbejj> Has empathy been misbehaving constantly for anyone else since upgrading to 12.04?
[17:52] <ruediger> trism: I should probably remove it?
[17:52] <itmustbejj> ie Not able to open new chats, randomly refusing to interface with account manager
[17:55] <trism> ruediger: might be a good idea
[17:56] <trism> ruediger: then you can use dh_make to create a the basic structure with the extracted source
[17:59] <n-iCe> Hello I just installed Ubuntu 12.04, my first goal is to create an AP, I have two wireless card, wlan0 which has Internet and wlan1 the one I would like to share internet from, I have crated a new connection with wlan1 created the essid name, key ,etc I can see the AP in other devices now, but the devices cant connect to the internet, any idea? They are not getting IPs dns, etc
[18:00] <docvell> Hi just a general question is there a way to create a desktop shortcut for a program to run through Terminal?  I have 12.04 release and using gnome 3 desktop
[18:01] <Chuck_Norris> docvell: gnome-desktop-item-edit ~/Desktop/ --create-new
[18:01] <HillDev> apt-get question, I am getting an error due to depends
[18:02] <docvell> then click on Application in Terminal?
[18:02] <HillDev> I'm running a server
[18:02] <docvell> the program is atari800 (emulator for the Atari 800 computer)
[18:02] <Chuck_Norris> HillDev: sudo apt-get install -f
[18:02] <HillDev> I did, and it still give me the same error
[18:02] <Chuck_Norris> HillDev: sudo aptitude install -f
[18:03] <good_samaritan> Aline, yes
[18:03] <docvell> works :)
[18:03] <docvell> thank-you
[18:03] <Chuck_Norris> np
[18:03] <HillDev> working.. Thank you
[18:03] <docvell> copying that code to a document so I can do more of them later
[18:04] <Chuck_Norris> np
[18:04] <HillDev> Chuck_Norris knows all!
[18:04] <penreturns> lol
[18:04] <Chuck_Norris> ye, i know everything
[18:04] <HillDev> oh yeah?
[18:04] <Chuck_Norris> http://i.imgur.com/Bh78F.jpg
[18:04] <HillDev> then what open source should I be running, eucalyptus or openstack?
[18:05] <Jordan_U> !ot | Chuck_Norris
[18:07] <rob_> hi
[18:07] <rob_> can anyone tell me how to make boot messages be displayed in ubuntu 12.04?
[18:09] <odm> rob_: dmesg in terminal will show you some
[18:10] <rob_> odm: that's not what im after, im after the init messages
[18:11] <rob_> odm: the service messages
[18:12] <odm> Ok, I only know how to do it with OpenRC.. but that's in gentoo. So doesn't help much =)
[18:14] <blackbit> rob, are you looking for a temporary or a permanent solution to see init messages?
[18:14] <rob_> blackbit: permenant
[18:14] <blackbit> rob: there was a line to add in the grub menu
[18:14] <rob_> blackbit: i want to turn off the splash so i can see all the services starting
[18:14] <n-iCe> Hello I just installed Ubuntu 12.04, my first goal is to create an AP, I have two wireless card, wlan0 which has Internet and wlan1 the one I would like to share internet from, I have crated a new connection with wlan1 created the essid name, key ,etc I can see the AP in other devices now, but the devices cant connect to the internet, any idea? They are not getting IPs dns, etc
[18:15] <rob_> blackbit: any ideas what? :)
[18:15] <blackbit> rob: ubuntu 12.04?
[18:15] <rob_> blackbit: yeah
[18:16] <blackbit> rob: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997199
[18:16] <blackbit> rob: basically, you remove 'quiet splash' from the grub menu entry of ubuntu, and then do sudo update-grub
[18:16] <ruediger> trism: dh_make just generates the debian/ directory and the required files?
[18:16] <rob_> blackbit: ok cool but where is the grub menu file? dont you have to use /etc/default/grub or something?
[18:17] <blackbit> rob: let me check
[18:18] <trism> ruediger: yes, it will ask you a few questions about the package and generate the files you need (plus extras you can safely delete)
[18:18] <blackbit> rob: menu should be in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:19] <ruediger> trism: well I shouldn't need that. I have a build script that generates most of the debian directory and git dch generates the changelog from git log.
[18:20] <rob_> blackbit: i think that file is generated from /etc/default/grub
[18:20] <ruediger> trism: but just to understand it right. If I call debuild -b it should unpack the orig directory and then call debian/rules with target build?
[18:21] <rob_> blackbit: i see all the kernel messages but i dont see any of the init messages, it's quite annoying...
[18:21] <trism> ruediger: usually you unpack the source and then use debuild from the source directory
[18:21] <rob_> i have nosplash noquiet and debug kernel perameters
[18:22] <ruediger> trism: this isn't done automatically?
[18:22] <benjameno> hey i have a problem. i was using kubuntu, but i decided to reformat my hard drive and install ubuntu on it. the problem is i'm getting an I/O error when i try to install and it's impossible for me to boot my computer now without the CD
[18:22] <blackbit> rob: open /etc/default/grub and search for  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash". try modifyng that line in RUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" , then sudo update-grub
[18:23] <rob_> blackbit: have edited that file but those parameters didnt exist there, that's where i added noquiet, nosplash and debug and then if i run grub-update i can see the changes reflected in /boot/grub/grub.conf
[18:23] <benjameno> it says something about how there might be something wrong with the cd but right now i have no means of burning a new cd because my only CD burner is occupied by the ubuntu installation disk
[18:24] <benjameno> i'm starting to think maybe the drive crapped out on me
[18:24] <Snyp> Why does my ATI gpu fan rotate at such a high speed when i'm on ubuntu? Is there a way to fix this?
[18:24] <trism> ruediger: no, you could use pbuilder and point it at the dsc file, and have it unpack and build the source in a chroot
[18:24] <benjameno> can anyone help me?
[18:25] <devxdev> any reason why i can't apt-get in a chroot?
[18:25] <jondoe2> I just modified the /boot/grub/grub.conf, it was a safe change from security=selinux selinux=1 to security=apparmor, is there any easy way to boot failsafely in case I messed up though? like last working grub.conf thing?
[18:25] <blackbit> rob: so, did you try to do  update-grub without results already?
[18:25] <jondoe2> Snyp, got the latest driver?
[18:25] <benjameno> i don't think something's wrong with the cd because i run ubuntu in test mode fine with it
[18:25] <Snyp> Yea.. the proprietary one that was shown in the update list.
[18:25] <Snyp> fglx or something like that
[18:25] <rob_> blackbit: correct
[18:26] <ruediger> trism: but then how does it work on launchpad? Do I have to unpack the orig file prior to creating the source package to have it included?
[18:27] <trism> ruediger: for launchpad you would dput the changes file, which will upload the dsc/tar files and then launchpad will unpack and build it (eventually)
[18:28] <Snyp> Any idea how I can manually change the fan speed. Its always at a constant high speed even though there are no graphics heavy program running.
[18:29] <trism> ruediger: I think launchpad uses sbuild? which is similar to pbuilder
[18:30] <witha1207> sepi ajaaaaa
[18:32] <rob_> blackbit: this might work: http://virtual-drive.in/2012/05/20/ubuntu-12-04-text-boot/
[18:33] <blackbit> rob: good, try it :) if it works I'll probably do it as well
[18:33] <fission6> how do i copy a local user's pub key to a remote machien and login as a different user, the user i copied the key to on the remote machine
[18:34] <rob_> blackbit: hooray! it works..
[18:34] <llutz> fission6: ssh-copy-id user2@remotehost
[18:34] <jondoe2> my computer doesn't seem to automatically power off after shutdown is completed, is there any quick fix?
[18:34] <blackbit> rob: great, you solved it yourself :) may google always be with you
[18:34] <xGrub11> some one, would you like to give me a download link to a downloadable tarball package those could work with xfce4-terminal on xubuntu 11.10? thanks before...
[18:35] <jondoe2> xGrub11, downloadable link of what?
[18:35] <xGrub11> an example tarball those installable
[18:36] <jondoe2> of xfce4-terminal?
[18:36] <rob_> blackbit: cheers
[18:36] <xGrub11> jondoe2: did you visit one ?
[18:36] <xGrub11> yes
[18:36] <jondoe2> I think easiest would be sudo apt-get install xfce4-terminal
[18:37] <xGrub11> jondoe2: no, i mena, a link that contains a installable tarball package
[18:37] <loneclock> how can i minimize something once i have maximized it?
[18:37] <xGrub11> jondoe2: or could you teach me how to install a tarball?
[18:38] <jondoe2> xGrub11, what do you want to install?
[18:38] <jondoe2> what program
[18:38] <xGrub11> here i have "kanatest-0.4.8.tar.gz"
[18:39] <jondoe2> ok
[18:39] <xGrub11> how to install it trough xcfe4-terminal
[18:39] <jondoe2> xGrub11, first do tar zxfv kanatest-0.4.8.tar.gz
[18:39] <ruediger> trism: thanks for your help so far!
[18:39] <jondoe2> tar zxfv kanatest-0.4.8.tar.gz
[18:39] <jondoe2> that is
[18:39] <xGrub11> ok
[18:39] <jondoe2> then do       cd kanatest-0.4.8
[18:40] <jondoe2> then      ./configure
[18:41] <xGrub11> ok, then...
[18:41] <jondoe2> xGrub11, you do not need to install from tarball though
[18:41] <jondoe2> did you do ./configure ?
[18:41] <xGrub11> yes i did
[18:41] <jondoe2> ok
[18:41] <jondoe2> now do     make
[18:41] <L3top> make
[18:41] <L3top> sorry.
[18:41] <scruffy00> Hey all,
[18:42] <kunald> Hey, my ubuntu 12.04 system won't start X anymore after I installed kernel 3.2.0-25. have there been any other reports of similar problems?
[18:42] <Jordan_U> xGrub11: Stop, you don't want to install software by compiling from source.
[18:42] <fission6> thanks
[18:42] <fission6> can a remote user have more than one public key?
[18:42] <jondoe2> xGrub11, you can do        sudo apt-get install kanatest
[18:42] <llutz> fission6: yes
[18:42] <jondoe2> and it will install automatically
[18:42] <Jordan_U> xGrub11: kanatest is available in Ubuntu Software Center, or you can install it from the terminal by running "sudo apt-get install kanatest".
[18:42] <fission6> ok thanks llutz
[18:42] <xangua> kunald: tried to use the previous kernel¿
[18:42] <kunald> Yeah, and that works just fine
[18:43] <scruffy00> Can't get 12.04 to shut down properly.  Added the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=force" in grub.  Still doesn't work.   Any help would be appreciated.
[18:43] <xGrub11> jondoe2: ok wait i though my GTK+ doesn't upgraded yet... it stop after ./configure... it can't do "make"...
[18:43] <jondoe2> xGrub11, ok you better try          sudo apt-get install kanatest
[18:43] <jondoe2> much easier
[18:43] <xGrub11>  Jordan_U: xGrub11: kanatest is available in Ubuntu Software Center, or you can install it from the terminal by running "sudo apt-get install kanatest". <-- iknow it is, i just training to install it by tarball
[18:43] <jondoe2> ah
[18:43] <xGrub11> :)
[18:44] <Jordan_U> xGrub11: Why are you "training to install it by tarball"?
[18:44] <xGrub11> jondoe2;  Jordan_U; thanks :)
[18:44] <jondoe2> Jordan_U, because some enjoy learning, why not?
[18:44] <jondoe2> xGrub11, hmmm. what gtk+ is missing?
[18:44] <jita> Whats the best way app for rsi break application which prevents you from continuously working on the pc ? I dont like KDE apps like workrave etc.
[18:44] <dom134> #quit
[18:45] <xGrub11> i wanna save some tarball to burning to a cd,, so when i my linux crash, a can install it by offline...
[18:45] <jondoe2> xGrub11, usually when you install something with apt-get, you see something like These programs will be installed: libasd libasdf2 and so on
[18:45] <jondoe2> those are called dependencies,they are needed for the program to work
[18:46] <jondoe2> if you install from tarball you have to install all those manually
[18:46] <xGrub11>  jondoe2: xGrub11, hmmm. what gtk+ is missing? <-- i dont know.. in the terminal it says like this:
[18:46] <xGrub11> checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
[18:46] <xGrub11> checking whether GTK+ version >= 2.12... no
[18:46] <xGrub11> configure: error: GTK+ not found or too old (version < 2.12)
[18:46] <xangua> !offline | xGrub11
[18:46] <jondoe2> ok
[18:46] <se-nsei> can someone point me in the direction to install bootable ubuntu to an external hard drive? 500GB NTFS. I'm using a windows PC
[18:46] <Snyp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2002687  How do I do what he just said, I wonder if gpu fan speed can be controlled from the BIOS?
[18:46] <xGrub11> xangua:oops sorry :|
[18:47] <jondoe2> xGrub11, I think you need   libgtk-3-0
[18:47] <L3top> xGrub11: you can just dump the packages from /var/cache/apt/archives/blahblah.deb, and you will have the packages you need. Can then just dpkg -i blahblah.deb... but as was mentioned, there are dependencies etc
[18:47] <jondoe2> no
[18:47] <jondoe2> xGrub11, you need   libgtk2.0-0
[18:48] <jondoe2> xGrub11, here you can see what is needed: http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-11.04/ubuntu-universe-i386/kanatest_0.4.8-2_i386.deb.html#requires
[18:48] <trism> jondoe2: -dev package (so libgtk2.0-dev)
[18:49] <trism> jondoe2: also since it is in the repos, sudo apt-get build-dep kanatest; will do the heavy lifting
[18:50] <pepee> really, pastebinit not working?
[18:50] <L3top> oh wow... xGrub11 ignore what I said... xangua has the better answer there
[18:50] <L3top> they broke the api on 1004 a while back. Ubuntu has fixed it. You should update and grab the newest version.
[18:51] <anommie> Hi, got a mate who installed ubuntu, and it reads "completing the ubuntu installation" and doesnt start without the disk, when you put the disk in it starts up but everything but the unity sidebar is white, there are no icons on the unity startbar?
[18:51] <xGrub11> (01:50:27 AM) L3top: oh wow... xGrub11 ignore what I said... xangua has the better answer there <-- isn't it .. ok i'll go there
[18:51] <jondoe2> xGrub11, do try      sudo apt-get build-dep kanatest
[18:52] <jondoe2> usually internet will still work even if some things are broken
[18:52] <anommie> i can access the wifi, sound, but when i try and log out it wont let me? (no error message)
[18:52] <pepee> http://pastebin.com/Cz8LLx6r  <- broken pastebinit
[18:52] <Guest40510> @search origami
[18:52] <Guest40510> @search drawing
[18:52] <Guest40510> @search cartoons
[18:52] <jondoe2> anommie, maybe it's not quite finished?
[18:53] <jondoe2> if it says "completing .."
[18:53] <DJones> !list > Guest40510
[18:53] <anommie> he says the installation went through to the point where it asked him to restart, when he restarted this happened.
[18:55] <pepee> ubuntu, always braking what works
[18:55] <pepee> *breaking
[18:55] <n-iCe> Hello I am sharing internet(wlan0) to others(wlan1) but when I connect to the AP they does not get IPs
[18:55] <xGrub11> (01:51:51 AM) jondoe2: xGrub11, do try      sudo apt-get build-dep kanatest <-- no, it can't work either sudo apt-get install kanatest... i thougt there is some missing items in my linux... ok, its allright for now, i will try search info at google... btw thanks...
[18:56] <hash> any one know y i might be getting a ..... does not exist when im dragging the folder on to the terminal window
[18:56] <llutz> n-iCe: you need a dhcp-server running and listening on wlan1
[18:56] <xGrub11> jondoe2: thank you ;)
[18:56] <llutz> n-iCe: dnsmasq might do, it also manages dns
[18:57] <n-iCe> llutz: done I installed it, now?
[18:57] <arussel> I'm having a server with postgres package in a very bad state. I'm trying to remove everything. "aptitude purge postgresql-common" works, but then "aptitude install postgresql-common" gives me: "Can't locate PgCommon.pm in @INC", any ideas ?
[18:57] <llutz> n-iCe: now read the documentation how to configure it
[18:58] <n-iCe> llutz: I read that I don't need to install dnsmasq and I need to install dnsmasq-base
[18:58] <scruffy00> Anyone have a fix for the shutdown issue with 12.04?
[18:58] <llutz> n-iCe: however they splitted the package now. you need the service runnig, so install whatever is needed
[18:59] <n-iCe> llutz: I am sure it is running, cuz was already installed
[18:59] <ruediger> are lintian errors a problem for a ppa? e.g. because of uncompressed manpage
[18:59] <llutz> n-iCe: well, then configure it
[19:00] <n-iCe> llutz: I read network-manager does it in 12.04 all tutorials says just to select on ipv4 SHARED TO OTHERS
[19:00] <n-iCe> And I did
[19:00] <B0g4r7> arussel, that's a perl error.  It's complaining that t can't find a particular module.
[19:01] <kunald> xangua, I think it was an issue with fglrx
[19:01] <ssta> ruediger: why not compress the manpage?  The debhelper tools do that for you even...
[19:01] <arussel> B0g4r7: I've been this far, but I would expect a file named PgCommon.pm to be provided by postgresql-common package.
[19:02] <B0g4r7> Yeah...
[19:02] <ssta> ruediger: occasionally, there are valid reasons to ignore lintian warnings (hence the lintian overrides mechanism), but they are rare...usually the problems are very easy to fix and so should be fixed
[19:02] <anommie> ntfs error prefix not set? what does this mean?
[19:02] <arussel> I've got the message : "Setting up postgresql-common (129) ", but then the error so it unpacked everything.
[19:02] <ssta> ruediger: anyways, NEVER just ignore a lintian warning/error.  If you want to override it (with appropriate documentation as to why)
[19:02] <ruediger> ssta: it would require adding compression support to my build scripts
[19:03] <B0g4r7> Nevermind, my comment was likely not useful.
[19:03] <arussel> B0g4r7: thanks for trying :-)
[19:03] <ruediger> ssta: not impossible but I don't want to do it for now
[19:03] <Dashh> hi, where is the dir with keymaps in ubuntu 12.04?
[19:04] <ssta> ruediger: why not just compress it in the source package?  If you're using debhelper you should be using dh_installman anyway
[19:04] <ruediger> ssta: I'm not using debhelper
[19:04] <hash> any one know y im getting an /../../../ dosent exist when im dragging the folder over to the terminal window
[19:05] <ssta> ruediger: mostly leaving the warnings there is just seen as sloppy...and if you're sloppy about easy to fix stuff in your ppa package, why would I trust it to be right for the hard stuff?
[19:05] <ruediger> ssta: I'm not saying I won't fix it. But I want to get the ppa running first
[19:05] <B0g4r7> arussel, you might fool around with the CPATH env variable, and include /usr/share/postgresql-common in it.
[19:05] <xGrub11> why do "sudo apt-get install bla-bla-bla" can't work, someone help me
[19:05] <ssta> ruediger: fine, go for it
[19:06] <ssta> ruediger: I duno what the launchpad ppa does about lintian, but if it's your own ppa it's up to you :)
[19:06] <faryshta> Is there a minecraft-like game for ubuntu?
[19:07] <hash> xGrub11, are u getting an error
[19:07] <SkippersBoss> xGrub11: what is it saying exactly ??
[19:07] <hash> ifso what
[19:07] <ruediger> ssta: yeah I'll give it a try :)
[19:07] <ssta> hash: minecraft
[19:07] <hash> ssta, what
[19:08] <ssta> hash: google for "minecraft ubuntu".  There's like a bazillion blogs/forum posts/howtos on getting it done
[19:08] <faryshta> ssta, I think you mean me.
[19:08] <ssta> oops, sorry hash
[19:08] <faryshta> ssta, I wanna play something free (as speach)
[19:09] <ruediger> faryshta: there is minetest http://minetest.net/
[19:10] <ssta> minetest is in the archive even, you can get it in software centre
[19:10] <SkippersBoss> hash: xGrub tried to sudo apt-get install GTK+
[19:10] <n-iCe> Please I have two cards, wlan0 connected to internet and wlan1 which is the one I would like to share internet from, I am using network manager in order to create a new connection, I see the AP created in my devices but they don't get ip, something must be wrong, any ideas?
[19:10] <faryshta> ruediger, thakns. Let me check.
[19:11] <ssta> umm, there's no suck package as "GTK+"
[19:12] <arussel> B0g4r7: the problem is that the file is not on the system.
[19:12] <B0g4r7> Yeah...it sounds like it installs it as a part of that package, and then tries to use it, and fails to find it.
[19:13] <Zxixi> i installed mysql-server but it isn't starting up mysqld_safe it's starting mysqld does anyone know how i can change it to the safe one?
[19:13] <B0g4r7> arussel: http://perldoc.perl.org/perlrun.html#ENVIRONMENT
[19:13] <faryshta> ruediger, is minetest experimental or something? Looks like there is no game play. Just a map with blocks.
[19:13] <B0g4r7> You might try setting PERL5LIB to that path, as mentioned in there.
[19:13] <ruediger> faryshta: I haven't tried it
[19:14] <B0g4r7> And then retrying the apt install.
[19:14] <HillDev> hey yall!
[19:14] <HillDev> my bridge is giving me hell, does anyone else have this same problem?
[19:14] <jita> Whats the best way app for rsi break application which prevents you from continuously working on the pc ? I dont like KDE apps like workrave etc.
[19:15] <faryshta> ruediger, looks like a sandbox. Nothing to play, just to explore.
[19:15] <B0g4r7> You'll need to be more specifc, HillDev.
[19:15] <HillDev> haha I know
[19:15] <ruediger> faryshta: that's what some people say about minecraft as well :D
[19:15] <HillDev> I have a bridge
[19:15] <HillDev> eth0 is hooked up to the internet
[19:16] <Limpalot> Hi channel.
[19:16] <Limpalot> Could anyone please tell me how I can set the screen resolution to 1366x768 regardless of what screen is connected on xubuntu?
[19:16] <Limpalot> I miss xorg.conf...
[19:16] <jagginess> jita, try to use keyword 'scim'
[19:16] <D_LSI> Just a stupid newbie question.  I have to install LSI Raid drivers during the CD install Process.  How do I do that?
[19:16] <faryshta> ruediger, but I don't even see the tools, options or anything. I can just move around.
[19:16] <HillDev> eth1 is hooked up to another computer,
[19:17] <HillDev> the bridge setting seem to work because computer A has internet, but computer B the one hooked up to eth1, does not have internet or network access for that matter
[19:17] <D_LSI> anyone ??
[19:18] <D_LSI> hello????
[19:18] <DeltaHeavy> HillDev: You're going to need to use netfilter (iptables) to forward things for eth1 to eth0
[19:19] <HillDev> oh ok..
[19:19] <Limpalot> HillDev: And enable ip_forward
[19:19] <HillDev> how do I enable ip_forward?
[19:19] <D_LSI> Is there anyone here willing to help me?
[19:20] <D_LSI> guess not
[19:20] <SkippersBoss> D_LSI: If someone has an answer to your question u will get it
[19:20] <Limpalot> HillDev: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[19:21] <Limpalot> D_LSI: Willing, yeah, but I haven't had the need in years, so I don't remember (or even know with the new installer)
[19:21] <llutz> HillDev: set "net.ipv4.ip_forward=1" in /etc/sysctl.conf and run "sudo sysctl -p  /etc/sysctl.conf "
[19:22] <D_LSI> New installer is nice, I think.  But can't seem to find anyway to install a new LSI driver during the install process.
[19:22] <HillDev> Thank you
[19:22] <SkippersBoss> Limpalot: can't you do anything with xrandr
[19:22] <Zxixi> is this script supposed to keep mysqld up if it dies? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1039569/
[19:23] <Limpalot> SkippersBoss: I don't know, will that hold across reboots and different monitors?
[19:23] <dudol> What is that Linux distribution which has a female name?
[19:24] <jussi> fluffy :D
[19:24] <Meridious> dudol: gentoo
[19:24] <ruediger> dudol: http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/
[19:24] <Meridious> dudol: hannah montana linux
[19:24] <GRMrGecko> I need to disable Net::FTP and LWP in CPAN. I've tried dontload_hash and dontload_list. I'm using perl v5.14.2 on ubuntu 12.04.
[19:24] <durka42> rhythmbox question, can I synchronize with a device (my phone) where the phone has the more up-to-date library
[19:25] <durka42> I want to add all the music from my phone as opposed to overwriting what's already on the phone
[19:25] <durka42> or is rhythmbox the wrong choice
[19:25] <SkippersBoss> Limpalot you could always drop the command line somewhere. I have it on a launcher for en/disabling and positioning a monitor
[19:26] <SkippersBoss> Some one else in here might be in a better position to tell you where to put it exactly
[19:26] <Limpalot> I have never used xrandr, I can script it? Neat, I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the tip!
[19:27] <SkippersBoss> ur welcome
[19:27] <scruffy00> Quick question.  Can't get Ubuntu 12.04 to shutdown or restart.  Edited grub but it still won't work.  Any suggestions?
[19:27] <adamk> Limpalot: If you miss xorg.conf, why not use xorg.conf ?  You can specify monitors and "PreferredResolutions"
[19:28] <TheLordOfTime> scruffy00: why would grub control shutdown/restart?  any errors when you try to shutdown or restart?
[19:28] <Notimik> is it possible to change how a program is run from the unity bar? like i would like to add an export LANG=se:en befora I launch x-chat to get dual spell checkers
[19:28] <Limpalot> adamk: Yeah, maybe I'll just reinstate xorg.conf...
[19:29] <scruffy00> TheLordofTime...it hangs.  I've been looking on line and the suggestion on line was to edit grub and with the following line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=force".  It hasn't helped.
[19:29] <TheLordOfTime> scruffy00: hangs how?
[19:31] <dacs> hello folks, i just did the update and it messed up my laptop screen
[19:31] <scruffy00> TheLordOfTime:  Laptop screen goes off, but the computer fans still run.
[19:31] <oona__> #wikimedia-br
[19:31] <dacs> linux-headers-generic-pae: Depends: linux-headers-3.2.0-25-generic-pae but it is not installed
[19:31] <dacs> can someone help me please
[19:31] <nerdistmonk> I just updated my kernel to 3.4.0 and now my firewall wont stay enabled, does anyone know why this is?
[19:32] <brandon> hello
[19:32] <brandon> I am using 10.04
[19:32] <brandon> and wondering if i can get the apps 12.04 can?
[19:32] <dacs> this is on 12.04
[19:33] <hash> y would i get a /.../.../... does not exits
[19:33] <nerdistmonk> im Xubuntu 12.04
[19:33] <dacs> brandon, i suggest you wait, i am have hell of a time to get 12.04 work for me
[19:33] <TheLordOfTime> brandon: i take it you're not willing to upgrade to 12.04?
[19:34] <jayshawn> I'm running 12.04 and trying to configure four monitors with xrandr. I have fully described the position (left,right,above,below) for each, but inevitably one display will show a streched desktop with a mouse, but I am unable to put windows on it. What could be going wrong?
[19:34] <roothorick> laptop running 12.04 LTS. Wireless is working, I'm connected to my local WiFi right now, but iwconfig claims the WiFi card is "Not-Associated". Why?
[19:35] <jita> how to check installed dependencies of a package /
[19:35] <B0g4r7> brandon, most of the apps should will probably work on 10.04.  Maybe an exceptino here or there.
[19:35] <dacs> any help with the update screwing my monitor please
[19:35] <scruffy00> TheLordOfTime: Did my response make sense?
[19:36] <TheLordOfTime> scruffy00: i might've missed it :/
[19:36] <TheLordOfTime> oh
[19:36] <TheLordOfTime> that
[19:36] <TheLordOfTime> um...
[19:36] <TheLordOfTime> scruffy00: sort of, did you try 'shudown -h now` from the command line?
[19:36] <TheLordOfTime> just as a test
[19:36] <TheLordOfTime> sudo shutdown -h now   *
[19:37] <nerdistmonk> I just updated my kernel to 3.4 and now my firewall wont stay enabled, why is that?
[19:38] <scruffy00> TheLordOfTime:  No problem.  Monitor goes blank but hard drive and fans stay on.  I have tried the sudo shutdown -h command and has worked.  I've had the problem with the new versions of Ubuntu (12.04) and Linux Mint (Maya).  I would like to not have to run a command every time I shutdown or reboot.
[19:38] <TheLordOfTime> !mint | FYI, scruffy00
[19:38] <TheLordOfTime> so for mint side help, go there
[19:38] <TheLordOfTime> scruffy00: as for why its hanging on your end, i dont know why specifically, so...
[19:38] <scruffy00> TheLordOfTime:  Not running Mint now.
[19:39] <TheLordOfTime> nor do i have a fix
[19:39] <nerdistmonk> theres a bug with nouveau and kernels 3.2-3.3 where you will get no picture when you boot, nomodeset=0 has to be set if your on nouveau
[19:39] <ircnode0> strange. I want to list folders in terminal with ls -d, but got "." as output
[19:39] <ircnode0> ?
[19:40] <scruffy00> TheLordOfTime:  Ok.  Thanks anyway.  Anyone else have any suggestions.  Whatever I see on the web doesn't seem to help.  I'm running a Dell Inspiron 1420
[19:40] <nerdistmonk> so i would would really like my firewall working again
[19:40] <llutz> ircnode0: "." IS the actual directory
[19:40] <Meridious> ircnode0, do you have no other directories inside of . ?
[19:40] <ircnode0> llutz: there are more than "."
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> nerdistmonk: or blacklist nouveau ;)
[19:41] <Dacs> do development have their own channel ?
[19:41] <ircnode0> Meridious: yes there are A,B,C and D folder
[19:41] <llutz> ircnode0: ls -d   won't list contents of a dir, just the dir
[19:41] <hash> anyone here use audiogalaxy
[19:41] <scruffy00> Can anyone tell me what the Nouveau driver isn't able to do over the Nvidia drivers?
[19:41] <Dacs> !development
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: #ubuntu+1 if you mean development of Quantal (Ubuntu 12.10)
[19:42] <nerdistmonk> the nvidia drivers are able to push some serious performance where as nouveau are meh
[19:42] <ircnode0> llutz: do I need to add something to list current path's folders? e.g. folders under "."
[19:43] <nerdistmonk> anyways why would a kernel upgrade disable my firewall?
[19:43] <nerdistmonk> i cant turn it back on either
[19:43] <Toph2> i'm going to be buying a video card,, which is better supported by linux, nvidia or ATI?
[19:43] <llutz> ircnode0: find . -type d
[19:43] <nerdistmonk> nvidia
[19:43] <Toph2> ok
[19:43] <scruffy00> I've noticed that when I don't use the Nividia Driver I can shutdown and reboot Ubuntu 12.04.  When I use Nvidia it won't shutdown or reboot.  Thanks nerdistmonk.  Can the Nouveau driver run games?
[19:43] <nerdistmonk> yeah
[19:43] <jita> Is there any graphical application which list all the running tasks and their memory usage ?
[19:43] <nerdistmonk> it can but it wont run high end stuff very quick
[19:44] <nerdistmonk> i play minecraft and such on nouveau and it works fine
[19:44] <Chuck_Norris> jita: system monitor
[19:44] <guntbert> !enter | nerdistmonk
[19:44] <ircnode0> llutz: thanks.
[19:44] <mneptok> jita: i just use htop, which is CLI, but very understandable
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> jita: system-monitor
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> jita: or use: top
[19:44] <ZeZu> what is the correct way to set nameservers on current ubuntu server for use w/ static ip?
[19:44] <scruffy00> nerdistmonk:  Thanks.  I don't think my laptop can handle high end stuff, but if I can play Monkey Island I might be able to make it work.  Just disappointed I'm having the issues with 12.04.
[19:45] <mneptok> ZeZu: open /etc/network/interfaces with sudo privileges
[19:45] <nerdistmonk> your welcome scruffy, i guess i have to fix my problem myself since the only response i can get is from a grammar nazi lol
[19:45] <mneptok> ZeZu: even better, pastebin that same file for me
[19:46] <ZeZu> mneptok,  lol ...
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> scruffy00: there is a scumm vm system you can use for monkey islan etc
[19:46] <mneptok> ZeZu: i'll do the edits you need, if you're lazy
[19:46] <ZeZu> mneptok,  that contains internal NAT addresses so no ... also i've never seeen nameservers in there only in resolv.conf
[19:46] <mneptok> ZeZu: you asked, i'm telling you how. i'm not guessing.
[19:47] <ZeZu> mneptok,  nameserver is valid in that file then?  ( it wasno't before )
[19:47] <llutz> ZeZu: "dns-nameservers x.x.x.x"
[19:47] <mneptok> ZeZu: if you put the correct parameters, yes.
[19:48] <scruffy00> ActionParsnip:  Thanks for the heads up.  I actually bought the re-released version a year or two ago and I can run it under wine/Play on Linux.
[19:48] <mneptok> llutz / ZeZu: that paramter, as well as "dns-search" and "dns-domains"
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> scruffy00: sweet, if it works then awesome :)
[19:48] <llutz> ZeZu: it was always valid, just needs package "resolvconf" to be installed
[19:49] <Dacs> any support for 12.04 here please
[19:49] <arejay> anyone know know why i no longer get prompts when i insert usb sticks/memory cards etc the prompt that used to ask what i wanted todo
[19:49] <guntbert> Dacs: yes
[19:49] <ZeZu> mneptok, http://pastebin.com/3WFL7Uzx
[19:49] <llutz> ZeZu: "dns-nameservers x.x.x.x"
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: absolutely, read the motd from when you came in ;)
[19:50] <ZeZu> I see that now thanks
[19:50] <Limpalot> SkippersBoss: xrandr in a script works like a charm, thank you very much!
[19:50] <Dacs> i just did an update and it screwed my monitor
[19:50] <jita> Ok whats the best way to get the memory usage of specific task ?
[19:51] <Dacs> 3.2.0-25-generic-pae #40-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 23 22:11:24 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[19:51] <cypher-neo> jita, What are you looking to test?
[19:51] <SkippersBoss> Happy to help
[19:51] <mneptok> ZeZu: http://pastebin.com/iR0ppZR6
[19:53] <Dacs> ActionParsnip, aptd crash, update manager crash, monitor crash
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: what GPU?
[19:53] <cypher-neo> jita, You could try using "strace -c <program>"
[19:53] <Etale> Hi people. When I restart my ubuntu 12.04 LTS, it gets stuck on that stage of showing the periods under the word ubuntu. The animation continues, but it doesn't seem like it's doing anything, and it doesn't seem to be ending. It's as if it's stuck in an infinite loop. Do you know what that could be?
[19:54] <ZeZu> mneptok/llutz: thanks
[19:54] <cypher-neo> jita, That will open up a new copy of the program, and you after you close it, it will show all the commands that generated memory and CPU usage, and how long they took to execute.
[19:54] <Dacs> ActionParsnip, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 320M] (rev a2)
[19:55] <jita> cypher-neo, like i have a running process of alarm-clock-applet, i want to see how much memory is it consuming, i can do it in system monitor, but i want to find that using command line
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: try uninstaling the proprietary driver, reboot then reinstall it
[19:55] <anomieee> just done a fresh install from disk, no errors. but my full screen is white except for the task bar and the unity sidebar. i cant open anything, or log out but i can access the unity search, whats going on?
[19:55] <cypher-neo> jita, try "strace -c <program>" or "ltrace -c <program>
[19:55] <ks07> Hey all - been trying to install 12.04 server remotely via ipmi/ikvm. Installation appears to complete normally, but on restart the system doesn't boot and doesn't appear to even attempt to load GRUB. It's a new mobo, and it appears to be UEFI, which I have no experience with
[19:56] <jita> cypher-neo, ok thanks
[19:56] <Dacs> ActionParsnip, how do i do that please , i don't want to mess it more that what i did already
[19:56] <cypher-neo> jita, Both will open up a new instance of the applet and break down how it's using memory
[19:57] <anomieee> this is the third time ive tried to reinstall, nothing to indicate the installation went wrong, can anyone tell me how to get into the command line and what checks to run?
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-current nvidia-settings       should do it
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> anomieee: log off then log in to Unity2D session, should be ok
[19:58] <anomieee> ActionParsnip: i cant log out
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> anomieee: sure you can#
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> anomieee: press CTRL+ALT+F1   and run:  killall -u $USER
[19:59] <anomieee> ActionParsnip: 2sec
[20:00] <Dacs> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:00] <Dacs>  linux-headers-generic-pae : Depends: linux-headers-3.2.0-25-generic-pae but it is not going to be installed
[20:00] <Dacs> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[20:00] <Dacs> ActionParsnip, sorry about the pm , but i didn't want to flood
[20:00] <norbert_> https://plus.google.com/_/nonplus/emailsettings?gpinv=AMIXal_5vSPoYLRHfUlmKcuLyIEhUCAcnpnE7LTyQNIQKlQfIO8t6Kb2Q8h3PyOrt90_f-PXyC-gthHiPZUZjzO7mqqhIPn3Pl7q3QfW9swp-np3U-tt62c&est=ADH5u8XaRxQGWM17zGoNxXbivI3FG2OySgPLe3HiCVtl0iUxejh2LrImnHsk5zInP4tVXBFxSpgAFLsdukY1vM5PqiuTD2l22JKqOVCvEik9ysz7q-2zTTHEYqR8ySXEiFX_1D0spvz9
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | Dacs
[20:00] <norbert_> that URL, can anyone click "Save" there?
[20:01] <norbert_> I tried it in Chrome, Firefox and Opera, without success
[20:01] <norbert_> maybe someone with Windows could try?
[20:02] <anomieee> ActionParsnip: its just giving me an output like incorrect syntax?
[20:02] <anomieee> im typing 'killall -u $willymck'
[20:02] <Kai_> i have hybrid graphics (intel/ati (radeon hd 6300m in particular)). after installing fglrx (either from ati's website or from the repos (without post-release updates)) without using aticonfig, i get a badrequest error from fglrxinfo. after using aticonfig, i get failsafe X. anyone know what i can do?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> anomieee: no, don't change the command, run it as I gave it
[20:03] <Kai_> once i tried using the open-source driver, but vgaswitcheroo wouldn't ever switch to the amd card. it seemed to be stuck on intel
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> anomieee: killall -u $USER     run that, don't change it
[20:03] <Kai_> in case it's relevant, i have an hp pavilion dv7 4285dx / xz029ua
[20:05] <hash> so i keep getting a /blah blah doesnt exist but i know the directory does
[20:06] <Meridious> hash: triple check your filepaths
[20:06] <dz0ny> hash you must esacpe spalce like /blah\ blah
[20:06] <dz0ny> escape*
[20:06] <dz0ny> space*
[20:06] <hash> ive tried
[20:06] <hash> \ the whole thing
[20:07] <Meridious> hash: ls -al
[20:07] <hash> and drag and dropping the folder
[20:07] <dz0ny> also "/blah\ blah/"
[20:08] <Damned> Good evening. Question: Im gonna run ddrescue. Im copying from a 1TB external drive, to a 2TB internal drive. Does the target 2TB drive need to be blank?
[20:10] <theadmin> Damned: It doesn't "need" to be blank, it will be wiped likely though
[20:10] <theadmin> Damned: If you are copying to a drive itself, obviously. If you're copying to a file, it will be fine
[20:11] <Damned> I have to create a 900GN image :/ since the usb drive has crashed
[20:11] <Damned> allright, could just as well format the 2TB disk before I start then
[20:12] <Damned> theadmin: just re-read your reply. So I should be fine with copying it to a gigantic 1TB image then?
[20:13] <theadmin> Damned: Sure, why not
[20:13] <theadmin> Any chance of ghc getting updated to 7.4.2 in Precise? 7.4.1 has some bugs which make xmonad go crazy
[20:13] <Damned> lol, ill give it a shot, even if i can rescue data, I might be more afraid of opening that image later on...
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Damned: it will make a 1Gb ISO file on the 2Gb partition
[20:14] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: ISO is not a valid term, that relates to CD images, but yeah that's the point
[20:14] <Galvatron> theadmin: There are always PPAs
[20:14] <theadmin> Galvatron: Hm, true enough
[20:14] <joel135> Damned: just make sure your filesystem can handle the gigantic file. for ext3, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Size_limits
[20:14] <lesshaste> when I click on a pdf I just get a black blank page.. how can I work around this?
[20:14] <lesshaste> this is in firefox
[20:14] <Damned> why would it create a 1GB ISO when I save it as a .img, and the disk itself is 1TB big?
[20:14] <hash> meridious: thats just my home directory the folder is on an external which is also accessible thru the media folder in my Hdd which is the same external
[20:15] <Damned> Its NTFS as file system. Im running win 7 but gonna run the ubunto live rescue disk in an attempt to try save data from the usb
[20:16] <joel135> lesshaste: does firefox display the pdf or does it launch another application to do that?
[20:17] <Damned> In my google adventures ddrescue seems like my best bet (usb disk cant be explores, it just freezes). Unless you have a better idea for me?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: not strictly CD images
[20:17] <lesshaste> joel135, firefox tries to display it
[20:17] <Etale> Hi fellas. Okay, so every time I restart I'm stuck on the splash screen with the logo.
[20:17] <Etale> Googling doesn't seem to bring about an answer to my problems.
[20:17] <Etale> Do you have any idea what I should do?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: its just a data stream
[20:17] <Shojo> suna bine andres
[20:17] <Shojo> scoate cifrele doar enetual
[20:17] <joel135> lesshaste: I'd set firefox to open the file in evince (the default pdf viewer)
[20:17] <Shojo> Etale: about what?
[20:18] <theadmin> Damned: There's Photorec, which is a nice way to recover files from *any* filesystem as such, but idk if it will really work for you, might be best to not load the drive much
[20:18] <lesshaste> joel135, I think I need to manually delete the plugin to do that
[20:18] <Etale> Shojo, so that when I restart it wouldn't be stuck on the splash screen, and it will actually restart.
[20:18] <Edwardf414> Just received a MacBook pro 2010 anyone has installed 11.04 smooth install or to Manny problems to even bother
[20:18] <Chuck_Norris> joel135: http://www.muylinux.com/2012/06/13/firefox-15-aurora-ya-tiene-soporte-nativo-para-pdf/  translate it
[20:18] <theadmin> Etale: Add "reboot=bios" to the kernel line
[20:19] <Shojo> omg i'm so off, sorry i just quit smoking i'm a mess i didn't mean to type in this chan :9
[20:19] <Etale> theadmin, where at? I don't know where to add that line.
[20:19] <Etale> theadmin, do you mean in /etc/default/grub?
[20:19] <theadmin> Etale: Type "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub" in a terminal. Next, find the line which says something like GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="foo bar baz", change it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="foo bar baz reboot=bios"
[20:20] <theadmin> Etale: Save the file, run "sync", then reboot in any way possible, and it should be working fine, more or less
[20:20] <Damned> theadmin: I will try ddrescue, and give photorec a looksie. As Ive understood it I need to create an imagae ASAP and do recovery attempts from that image instead of the actual drive (as you said, becuase I dont want to overload the faulting disk)
[20:21] <glosoli> Is there any way to permamently change Unity Launcher color ? that stupid behaviorus of auto chaning it according to background makes it look like crap
[20:21] <Etale> Okay, I'll try. theadmin, what does adding it actually do?
[20:21] <Damned> thanks for the advise
[20:21] <theadmin> Etale: Makes the kernel ask BIOS for reboot/shutdown instead of using the built-in power management features.
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> glosoli: anything in myunity?
[20:21] <Etale> Okay. I'll leave now to reboot.
[20:21] <mike__> I think I might have found a bug with the "lshw" terminal command.  Can someone help me verify that it is a bug?
[20:22] <Chuck_Norris> glosoli: try: sudo apt-get install myunity
[20:22] <glosoli> ok will check myunity as I hadn't used it for quite a time
[20:22] <gandhijee_> hey, i upgraded to 12.04, and now i don't have GLX extensions anymore....
[20:22] <gandhijee_> any idea on what might have happened?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> gandhijee_: do you use proprietary drivers?
[20:23] <gandhijee_> ActionParsnip: nope, i was using the free ones
[20:23] <Dacs> ActionParsnip, you are awesome dude
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Dacs: np dude, get that bug reported...
[20:23] <Galvatron> Edwardf414: Best stick to OSX. It will offer you a similar functionality, ans a much better battery life.  Believe, as of now it is a superior system. If you want Ubuntu, try 11.10 or 12.04, as "Natty" is a bit old and out of support already (it ended up with 12.04).
[20:23] <hash> http://pastebin.com/UBwU64vY
[20:24] <B0g4r7> I fear for the future of OS X.
[20:24] <Dacs> ActionParsnip, i am on linux 3.2.0-24-generic-pae now
[20:24] <B0g4r7> Even at WWDC 2008, the OS X sessions were dead.  Everyone was at the iOS sessions.
[20:24] <ratcheer> Edwardf414: OSX is BDS Unix under the hood. You can use it like Linux, if you want.
[20:25] <Dacs> !unmet
[20:25] <mike__> running "lshw -xml -C network > out.xml" does not generate a valid xml file if more than 1 network adapter (no root tag) in 12.04
[20:25] <theadmin> ratcheer: That's stretching it a bit. Yes, OS X is based on BSD, but it doesn't mean you can use it *like* Linux, there are too many major differences.
[20:25] <B0g4r7> Edwardf414, if you want to play with linux, you might consider installing it inside a VM.
[20:25] <Galvatron> ratcheer: But you are likely to break it, if you overdo things.
[20:26] <Duka> anyone have solution for this error,  dpkg -i *.deb http://pastebin.com/yVqujjD5
[20:26] <Etale> theadmin, it's still doing it.
[20:26] <Edwardf414> Thanks guys
[20:26] <theadmin> Etale: Bah, forgot to tell you, you gotta run "sudo update-grub" after editing the file
[20:26] <Galvatron> ratcheer: Installing the Linux desktop enviroments is theoretically possible, but definitely not recoomended (and makes little to no sense).
[20:27] <Etale> theadmin, the relevant line is: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash reboot=bios"
[20:27] <ratcheer> Galvatron: I guess it depends on what you do. I like to ssh to my Ubuntu box from out on my deck with my son's Macbook Pro.
[20:27] <Etale> theadmin, I did run sudo update-grub.
[20:27] <theadmin> Etale: Hm, okay, well, you can try changing it to "reboot=force" but I'm not sure how helpful that will be.
[20:27] <Dacs> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:28] <B0g4r7> Duka, I encountered the same problem when trying to install a self-compiled 3.4.2 kernel.  I did not solve it.
[20:28] <Etale> Let's try! What does that do now, theadmin?
[20:28] <theadmin> Etale: Some magic... lol, I honestly have no idea, I just got that one off some article on the web
[20:29] <Relondo> Sometimes, Ubuntu does not recognize my keyboard or mouse on startup. Rebooting, usually once, but no more than twice, always fixes it. The mouse and keyboard are never not recognized at the same time; only spearately. Hlep?
[20:29] <Relondo> *Help
[20:29] <Etale> Okay, here we go again.
[20:29] <theadmin> Etale: Well, as you would've probably guessed, rebooting *once* won't solve it, you have to boot with the new parameters first and *then* the reboot should work
[20:30] <Duka> Etale, already exists BCM4312 driver 3.4.0-030400-generic-pae?
[20:31] <Dacs> ActionParsnip, its asking me to do apt-install -f
[20:31] <Galvatron> Relondo: USB, PS/2, bluetooth? Pastebin (http://pastebin.com) the output of lsusb.
[20:32] <Etale> theadmin, gah! Nothing works!
[20:32] <Relondo> Galvatron: It's on a laptop, so I'm assuming the keyboard is USB, but the mouse is bluetooth, using a USB bluetooth receiver. And here's the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1039669/
[20:32] <theadmin> Etale: :( Sad. Well, I can't really help much here, but you can hit Escape during shutdown to see the details, and maybe it will lead you to understanding the problem
[20:33] <Etale> theadmin, will it create some log file somewhere?
[20:33] <theadmin> Etale: Not sure about that, sorry
[20:33] <Duka> Etale, already exists BCM4312 driver 3.4.0-030400-generic-pae?
[20:33] <dudol> Yesterday I've installed my laserPrinter to use with CAPs and everything was alright printing and stuff, today at windows side it giving me errors. What that could possible be? Could someone help please?
[20:33] <Chuck_Norris> Etale: what is your issue?
[20:33] <lysdexia> Is there a way to configure individual unity launcher icons to allow more than one instance of a program to be started? I really need more than one instance of  xterm and gvim at a time.
[20:34] <Etale> Chuck_Norris, my issue is that ubuntu is stuck on the splash screen when I restart.
[20:34] <Etale> Duka, I don't know. How do I check?
[20:34] <theadmin> lysdexia: Do you? gvim has :sp, :tabnew, and such. For xterm you can use tmux or screen. :P
[20:34] <ratcheer> lysdexia: Just right click it on the launcher and select "Open new window"
[20:34] <Jordan_U> Etale: I assume that you mean that it's stuck on the splash screen before powering down rather than after starting up again?
[20:34] <theadmin> lysdexia: That's not really an answer though but
[20:34] <hash> this is from a drag'd and drop'd folder http://pastebin.com/UBwU64vY
[20:34] <Etale> Jordan_U, you are right. Only on shut down. Never on start up.
[20:35] <Etale> Start up is fine.
[20:35] <Jordan_U> Etale: Does shutting down (not rebooting) work as expected?
[20:35] <Etale> Jordan_U, I haven't tried.
[20:35] <Jordan_U> Etale: Please do, and report back.
[20:35] <Duka> Etale, okay, thank you
[20:35] <Etale> I usually hibernate, which works fine.
[20:35] <lysdexia> theadmin: I use screen on remote sessions, so that's kind of out. I guess I could fiddle with colors and the like.
[20:36] <Etale> Okay. Jordan_U, I will try and report back.
[20:36] <Etale> I have to quit for that.
[20:36] <Etale> See you in a bit.
[20:36] <sebas_> hi every one
[20:36] <sebas_> can any one help me ?
[20:36] <theadmin> !ask | sebas_
[20:36] <wojox> ask away sebas
[20:37] <lysdexia> ratcheer: buh? I don't think we are using the same launcher. :-)
[20:37] <daniele> mm
[20:37] <daniele> lhmjm
[20:37] <daniele> ciao
[20:37] <daniele> ciao
[20:38] <Chuck_Norris> !it | daniele
[20:39] <Zoohouse> I'm trying to connect to my computer via ssh. Does Ubuntu come with a firewall that I may need to configure?
[20:39] <gandhijee> hello, so i had the fglx drivers and radeon drivers installed.
[20:39] <lysdexia> zoohouse: do you have sshd installed?
[20:39] <joel135> Zoohouse: it allows ssh by default
[20:39] <dudol> I am getting this at log window:
[20:39] <dudol> localhost - - [13/Jun/2012:17:34:12 -0300] "GET /admin/log/access_log HTTP/1.1" 200 6698 - -
[20:39] <dudol> localhost - - [13/Jun/2012:17:35:36 -0300] "GET /admin/log/access_log HTTP/1.1" 200 6791 - -
[20:39] <dudol> localhost - - [13/Jun/2012:17:35:54 -0300] "GET /admin/log/access_log HTTP/1.1" 200 6884 - -
[20:39] <dudol> localhost - - [13/Jun/2012:17:36:00 -0300] "GET /admin/log/access_log HTTP/1.1" 200 6977 - -
[20:39] <dudol> localhost - - [13/Jun/2012:17:36:05 -0300] "GET /admin/log/access_log HTTP/1.1" 200 7070 - -
[20:39] <FloodBot1> dudol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Zoohouse: by default it should just let you in
[20:39] <ratcheer> lysdexia: Sorry. Not Unity?
[20:39] <gandhijee> i removed the fgrlx drivers for the radeon, now all my text and all in the window managers are upside down!
[20:40] <gandhijee> any idea on how i can fix that?
[20:40] <Etale> I'm back, y'all.
[20:40] <lysdexia> ratcheer: Yes, unity.
[20:40] <Etale> Jordan_U, there's a problem with shutdown as well.
[20:40] <Zoohouse> lysdexia, joel135, ActionParsnip: It's supposed to just let me in, even if sshd is not installed?
[20:40] <lysdexia> Zoohouse, if you don't have sshd, there is nothing listening for incoming connections.
[20:40] <ratcheer> lysdexia: Ok, I am lost. Sorry. I will butt out.
[20:41] <Zoohouse> that makes perfect sense.
[20:41] <Zoohouse> Thanks!
[20:41] <adamk> gandhijee: Just the text?  The windows themselves aren't upside down?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Zoohouse: sudo apt-get install openssh-server    on the server side, it's not default installed
[20:41] <mneptok> Zoohouse: the package is openssh-server
[20:41] <Chuck_Norris> Etale: append "acpi_osi=Linux"  in the line "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[20:41] <Zoohouse> ActionParsnip, mneptok: doing that right now
[20:42] <Etale> Okay, Chuck_Norris, I'll try.
[20:42] <Etale> Chuck_Norris, what will it do?
[20:42] <Chuck_Norris> and will be: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux"
[20:42] <gandhijee> adamk: correct, the windows and the rest of the desktop is fine
[20:42] <Chuck_Norris> Etale: try it
[20:42] <gandhijee> is all the text within the windows.
[20:42] <sebas_> I have a very weird behaviour in my ubuntu since several monthss ago, suddently i get the shutdown windows popedout, and the windows close and popups over and over...  somes times for a few minutes some times for several hours,  until the widows stop poping out and then the counter (60 segs) starts and when it finish, my computer shut down.  itts quite annoying and i dont have a clue on how to solve it
[20:42] <adamk> gandhijee: Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file?
[20:43] <mneptok> Chuck_Norris: that is not an answer to "what does your advice actually do?"
[20:43] <shiII> anyone know ubuntu determines what algo to use in hashing passwords into /etc/shadow? i've tried looking it up and everything says that Ubuntu switched to sha a long time ago, but my new ubuntu server 12.04 install is still using md5
[20:43] <Chuck_Norris> Etale: then: sudo update-grub
[20:43] <lysdexia> ratcheer: Hey, it ain't nothing but a chicken wing. I just don't see any such  option. However, if I middle-click on it it seems to work fine. :-D
[20:43] <Etale> Chuck_Norris, sure.
[20:43] <Chuck_Norris> Etale: finaly reboot
[20:43] <Chuck_Norris> ye
[20:43] <Etale> Okay. Will reboot now. (again...)
[20:44] <lysdexia> I guess unity launcher is using the browser convention here.
[20:44] <Chuck_Norris> mneptok: better help someone
[20:44] <Chuck_Norris> beeter you*...
[20:44] <Chuck_Norris> better* =P
[20:45] <mneptok> Chuck_Norris: if someone wants to know what affects your advice will have, it is best to tell them rather than say "just try it."
[20:45] <ki4ro_> ¨Store music lens for unity¨ is stuck in my update manager...any suggestions?
[20:45] <manitou> anyone who trying to make headless ubuntu with  started without monitor ataached , can try to use "vesa" instead gpu drivers
[20:45] <gandhijee> adamk: http://pastebin.ca/2160946
[20:46] <B0g4r7> shiII, Hmm, well on my 11.04 system, the password in /etc/shadow is a long Base64 string that doesn't look like md5 to me.
[20:46] <Etale> Chuck_Norris, still the same deal.
[20:46] <ki4ro_> ¨Store music lens for unity¨ is stuck in my update manager...any suggestions?
[20:46] <Chuck_Norris> Etale: Etale idk how to help you =(
[20:47] <Etale> ...okay...
[20:47] <Chuck_Norris> Etale: you sure did: sudo update-grub
[20:47] <Relondo> How can I switch to a certain directory in the terminal?
[20:47] <Etale> Yes.
[20:48] <Etale> I have xfce4, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, if that helps.
[20:48] <Chuck_Norris> is a notebook?
[20:48] <adamk> gandhijee: Nothing particular unusual in there.  I take it this didn't happen with the radeon driver *before* you installed fglrx?
[20:48] <Etale> People kept telling me to change the line you told me to change to various things, and do update-grub, but it never changed anything. I don't think that's the problem...
[20:48] <gandhijee> adamk: actually i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04
[20:48] <shiII> B0g4r7, if you cat /etc/shadow and look at an entry for a user that has a password, the hashing method is listed as the first $n
[20:48] <gandhijee> then all this craziness started happening....
[20:48] <Etale> Chuck_Norris, it's a Lenovo laptop.
[20:49] <ki4ro_> ¨Store music lens for unity¨ is stuck in my update manager...any suggestions?
[20:49] <Etale> T420.
[20:49] <Jordan_U> Etale: You shouldn't do this as a general soltuion, but try closing all important programs and using sysrq magic to reboot just to test if that works (if it does, then something's probably stalled in user space).
[20:49] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | Etale
[20:49] <shiII> B0g4r7, I just did a fresh install of 10.04 and 12.04 server x64 last week and they both say $1 which translates to md5
[20:49] <sebas_> any one can hep me to figure why the shutdown screen is poping over and over again?
[20:50] <shiII> B0g4r7, the $6 prefix translates to sha-512, which is supposedly the default now
[20:50] <B0g4r7> shiII, Hmm, mine says $6
[20:50] <B0g4r7> 11.04 Desktop x64.
[20:50] <Etale> Jordan_U, how do I use sysrq?
[20:50] <mneptok> Etale: you get stuck on the splash screen whether you cold boot or reboot?
[20:50] <B0g4r7> Clean install, not upgrade.
[20:50] <shiII> yea, this is just weird
[20:50] <Etale> mneptok, what is cold boot? I click on "log out" and then "restart".
[20:51] <adamk> gandhijee: Sorry, unforutunately I don't think I cna help.  You could try seeing if a liveCD of Ubuntu 12.04 has this problem for you, or perhaps seeing if it works with another window manager or DE.
[20:51] <adamk>  
[20:51] <mneptok> Etale: you power off the machine, and turn it back on.
[20:51] <shiII> maybe it's related to the VMware install script
[20:51] <Zoohouse> sshd is working and I have forward port 22 to my laptop (where sshd is running). When I check for open ports, http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ reports that my port 22 is closed.
[20:51] <gandhijee> adamk: tried both kde and gnome
[20:51] <gandhijee> let me show you some pics
[20:51] <Etale> mneptok, it gets stuck only upon shutting it down. When I open it back up it never gets stuck.
[20:52] <mneptok> Etale: OK, just checking as i missed earlier input.
[20:52] <B0g4r7> Zoohouse, maybe you have more NAT routers in front of you that you don't know about.
[20:52] <Relondo> Okay, so I'm entering "cd /home/[my user name]/downloads"...but it says no such directory exists. I can most definitely navigate to the directory. Help?
[20:52] <eightiesk> I ran an update on ubuntu 10.04 to 11.04 and now i don't have a login screen what can I do on a live cd to fix this issue?
[20:52] <Etale> Jordan_U, how do I use sysreq magic to shut down all important processes?
[20:52] <gandhijee> http://i.imgur.com/XI3HV.jpg
[20:52] <B0g4r7> Zoohouse, in any case, I would advise against running sshd on port 22 on a public IP.  I would recommend putting it on an alternate port.
[20:52] <eightiesk> it loads to the login screen but then doesn't fully load the login screen
[20:53] <Chuck_Norris> Etale: paste: sudo netstat -putan
[20:54] <Etale> okay, just a sec.
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> eightiesk: what happens when you boot?
[20:55] <adamk> gandhijee: Looks like from the screenshot that you checked the output of 'glxinfo' and it didn't have direct rendering.  What's the full output of 'LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo' ?
[20:55] <Etale> http://pastebin.com/bgixN9hP, Chuck_Norris
[20:55] <mneptok> Etale: did this work at one point and broke?
[20:56] <Etale> mneptok, yes.
[20:56] <Etale> I'm thinking that maybe it's because I'm over-using apt-get autoremove, and I accidentally removed some important thing...
[20:57] <mneptok> Etale: have you tried booting a previous kernel?
[20:57] <Etale> mneptok, I don't know how to do that.
[20:57] <Zally666> Hi
[20:57] <gandhijee> adamk: umm did you not notice the whole thing is upside down?
[20:57] <mneptok> Etale: hold <shift> at boot
[20:57] <Etale> mneptok, on the splash screen?
[20:58] <adamk> gandhijee: Yes.
[20:58] <mneptok> Etale: you will see a menu of previous kernels.
[20:58] <mneptok> Etale: before the splash screen.
[20:58] <Etale> Wait, on start up or on shut down?
[20:58] <adamk> gandhijee: Again, pastebin the whole output of 'LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo'
[20:58] <Etale> On start up, then.
[20:58] <mneptok> Etale: start up
[20:58] <gandhijee> adamk: thats easier said that done
[20:58] <Etale> I'll give it a shot, I guess.
[20:58] <Etale> Okay. Here we go.
[20:58] <mneptok> Etale: you boot the system using a previous kernel, which does not work so well when shutting down ;)
[20:58] <sebas_> can any one help me to figure why the shutdown windows is poping up over and over again?
[20:58] <gandhijee> i can't get that info because of the upside down terminal
[20:59] <DeltaHeavy> My Ubuntu installation is starting to every so often mess up all theme colours making things appear very oddly. It's also now for some reason taking me ~30 seconds to open up Chrome after a fresh boot and login. Are there any solutions for this problem?
[20:59] <adamk> gandhijee: I don't see why it would be that difficult.  You can certainly type the command, and then copy and select the text.
[21:00] <DeltaHeavy> sebas_: It sounds like you're most likley experiancing a hardware error. Maybe a sticky button or something else.
[21:01] <Zally666> How the heck do i fix a tuner in ubuntu?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Zally666: fix in what way?
[21:02] <Zally666> Modprobe fix
[21:02] <adamk> gandhijee: I have to run out for a bit. I'd willing to bet your drivers are not installed properly, based on the little bit of the glxinfo I saw.  Probably, you still have remnants of fglrx installed.
[21:02] <ki4ro_> ¨Store music lens for unity¨ is stuck in my update manager...any suggestions?
[21:03] <Chuck_Norris> ki4ro_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:03] <zykotick9> ki4ro_: from terminal try "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[21:03] <ki4ro_> Chuck_Norris: I ll give it a try..thanks
[21:03] <gandhijee> adamk: ok
[21:03] <sebas_> DeltaHeavy: If i boot with a windows 7  partition i dont have the shutdown problem, so i'm not sure about the sticky button theory
[21:03] <Chuck_Norris> np
[21:03] <gandhijee> i am going to try to flush it out again
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> Zally666: can you state the issue fully please
[21:05] <DeltaHeavy> sebas_: Yeah that sounds like a software issue then for sure. idk then. Sorry :(  Might be a hardware/software compatability issue
[21:05] <Zally666> Well i added a init modprobe device in init.d
[21:06] <Jordan_U> Etale: You don't shut down all important programs with SYSRQ magic, you shut down all important programs (where in this context "important" is defined by you, like if you're writing your doctoral thesis in LibreOffice you probably want to close that before force shutting down the computer). The SYSRQ combination will tell the kernel to reboot directly (without doing a full normal nice shutdown from userspace first).
[21:06] <Zally666> Now tuner only when i scan
[21:07] <ubuntu_64bit> Jordan_U, what da problem is
[21:07] <Etale> mneptok, holding down shift didn't do nothin'.
[21:07] <Zally666> Action can uhelp me in the weekend
[21:07] <ki4ro_> Chuck_Norris: It stayed in update manager and the terminal says the following packages hve been kept back  unity-scope-musicstores
[21:07] <Jordan_U> Etale: You don't shut down all important programs with SYSRQ magic, you shut down all important programs (where in this context "important" is defined by you, like if you're writing your doctoral thesis in LibreOffice you probably want to close that before force shutting down the computer). The SYSRQ combination will tell the kernel to reboot directly (without doing a full normal nice shutdown from userspace first).
[21:07] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: nice explanation (seriously, not sarcastic) :)
[21:08] <ubuntu_64bit> Jordan_U,  like mine
[21:08] <Etale> Jordan_U, how do I do that?
[21:08] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | Etale
[21:08] <Zally666> Cuz im internated during the week
[21:08] <Etale> Oh!
[21:08] <Chuck_Norris> ki4ro_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  should install update everything even unity-scope-musicstore
[21:08] <Etale> Before I thought that ubottu was someone else giving me a different advice!
[21:08] <Etale> Okay.
[21:09] <Zally666> Gn8
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Etale: or ALT+K+PrintScreen
[21:09] <Zally666> Bye
[21:10] <Chuck_Norris> ki4ro_: but, the only thing that "unity-scope-musicstore" does is, shows you info about musics cds that might wanna to buy
[21:10] <ki4ro_> Chuck_Norris: So really nothing to be concerned with?
[21:10] <Chuck_Norris> ki4ro_: if you don't buy music so, is not need it for you, you can, update it or remove it
[21:11] <ki4ro_> Chuck_Norris: I would like to remove it
[21:11] <Chuck_Norris> ki4ro_: sudo apt-get remove unity-scope-musicstore
[21:11] <Chuck_Norris> sry ki4ro_: sudo apt-get remove unity-scope-musicstores
[21:11] <Etale> Jordan_U, it works.
[21:12] <Etale> Now what?
[21:12] <Dacs> i have installed 7zip compression/uncompression tool  but i cant find it any where :)
[21:12] <ki4ro_> Chuck_Norris: Gone!  Many thanks!
[21:12] <Chuck_Norris> np
[21:13] <arfbtwn> Dacs, it's integrated into your desktop. File roller will use it instead of the other implementations I think-and therefore so will the compress submenu of nautyluss
[21:13] <sk8|> how's it going
[21:13] <gandhijee> got it!
[21:14] <gandhijee> it was the xorg ati drivers mucking it all up
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Etale: Now you know that you're probably looking at a problem with upstart or an upstart script hanging at shutdown. I can't really think of what to try next, but hopefully that can point you somewhere useful.
[21:14] <Dacs> arfbtwn, didn't understand what you mean
[21:15] <arfbtwn> Dacs, select a group of files in nautilus and right click-there'll be an option for "Compress..." which uses file-roller and your 7zip  installation
[21:15] <Etale> Jordan_U, is "upstart" a formal term?
[21:16] <Etale> What does that mean "upstart script hanging at shutdown"?
[21:16] <Dacs> arfbtwn, but i want to uncompress a .bin file
[21:18] <Jordan_U> Etale: Upstart is what handles startup, shutdown (among other things): http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[21:18] <Etale> Is there some way to reinstall it, Jordan_U?
[21:19] <Jordan_U> Etale: You might try asking in #upstart.
[21:19] <Socracheese> just installed ubuntu 12.04 and latest gnome, when i maximize stuff the top toolbar doesn't go away so i can't minimize or close without right clicking on the bottom taskbar
[21:20] <Jordan_U> Etale: This isn't the type of thing I would expect to be fixed by re-installing, and upstart is a crutial part of your system which you don't want to mess with lightly.
[21:20] <_abc_> How does one set the DNS manually once the IP is set manually?!
[21:20] <_abc_> I get my settings written into /etc/resolv.conf wiped by NetworkDaemon
[21:21] <Jordan_U> Etale: It would also be good for you to file a bug report with "ubuntu-bug upstart".
[21:21] <ratcheer> _abc_: Yes, that always happens.
[21:21] <_abc_> okay, how about that not happening?
[21:21] <_abc_> Where is the NetworkDaemon setting for DNS, fixed
[21:22] <sk8|> what does powersave do to the battery/wifi card when running on battery?
[21:22] <_abc_> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html incidentally this is wrong
[21:22] <ratcheer> _abc_: You need to look into package resolvconf. I have avoided it, myself.
[21:22] <sk8|> when i disconnect from a power source wifi cuts out shortly after
[21:23] <sk8|> i disabled the power feature on wlan0
[21:23] <sk8|> and just recently pm-powersave false
[21:23] <COLEMAN80> ciao
[21:23] <COLEMAN80> buonasera
[21:23] <sk8|> is there anything else i could do to keep my wifi card up while running on battery?>
[21:24] <LjL> !it | COLEMAN80
[21:24] <stephenh> hello.  is anyone using the ssh feature in remmina to tunnel their connection?
[21:24] <salvosk1976>  /EXEC rm -vf /home/salvo/.xchat2/buduscript/tmp/budus_XDCC_24952.query
[21:24] <Jak2000> sk8|: http://pastebin.com/YNx7rX3j   apt-get install -t <name of release>    wich is the name of the release ?
[21:24] <salvosk1976>  /EXEC rm -vf /home/salvo/.xchat2/buduscript/tmp/budus_XDCC_24952.query
[21:25] <sk8|> 12.04 LTS
[21:25] <sk8|> i'll give it a go Jak2000
[21:26] <Etale> !sysreq
[21:26] <sk8|> Jak2000, should i revert to old settings/defaults?
[21:26] <adamk> gandhijee: You still had them installed?
[21:26] <Chuck_Norris> !sysrq | Etale
[21:26] <Etale> !Thanks!
[21:27] <Chuck_Norris> np
[21:27] <_abc_> ratcheer: No, I need to look into Network configuration, tab DNS, set some magic values, then hunt them in the file system using find
[21:27] <_abc_> Thanks
[21:30] <Jak2000> sk8|: any advice?
[21:30] <sk8|> Jak2000, in regards to ?
[21:30] <Jak2000> sk8|: http://pastebin.com/YNx7rX3j   apt-get install -t <name of release>    wich is the name of the release ?
[21:30] <sk8|> i may have misunderstood the reply
[21:30] <Jak2000> i want install mysql server 5.5.24
[21:30] <Jak2000> a friend tell me:
[21:30] <Jak2000> apt-cache policy mysql-server   show you version and name of release
[21:31] <Jak2000> after that you can install apt-get install -t <name of release> mysql-server
[21:31] <Jak2000> but i not know the name of the release
[21:31] <sk8|> Jak2000, name - precise
[21:31] <sk8|> ?
[21:32] <Jak2000> then need run: sudo apt-get install -t precise        ?
[21:32] <provola> Hi all
[21:33] <Zoohouse> Ubuntu comes with a firewall that I may have to configure to get connections (ssh) from the web?
[21:33] <provola> I've a problem related to /usr/include/math.h; where I should ask for help?
[21:33] <ratcheer> Zoohouse: Yes, ufw
[21:33] <Zoohouse> ratcheer: ahhhhhh :)
[21:33] <Chuck_Norris> provola: maybe c++ ?
[21:33] <_abc_> ratcheer: for next time: the settings are in the text file: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Auto\ eth0
[21:34] <_abc_> editable with sudo vi etc
[21:34] <_abc_> bye
[21:34] <Chuck_Norris> provola: /j #c++
[21:34] <provola> But math.h is related to Ubuntu
[21:34] <trism> provola: is the question just about compiling a program with math.h?
[21:34] <ratcheer> _abc_: Cool, thanks.
[21:34] <Chuck_Norris> ye, but is a header
[21:34] <provola> I mean: C++ is a programming language, /usr/include/math.h is Ubuntu related.
[21:34] <TransitTycoon> for the life of me, I can't get jack to record with recordmydesktop
[21:34] <Chuck_Norris> and a header is related to c as well
[21:35] <sk8|> Jak2000, yes
[21:35] <ThePendulum> I have been dual booting Ubuntu (12.04) and Windws 7 for a while now. However, how am I supposed to boot from USB stick? I always end up in GRUB and get to choose between the already installed OS'
[21:35] <Chuck_Norris> provola: paste your issue here if you want
[21:35] <provola> No th equestion is related to the fact that using math function in C IDE under Ubuntu doesn't work, while under arch works
[21:36] <provola> And I've looked and noticed that arch and Ubuntu have different /usr/include/math.h
[21:36] <Jak2000> sk8|: http://pastebin.com/5enyizHY
[21:36] <Jak2000> :(
[21:36] <trism> provola: doesn't work as in the symbol isn't resolved?
[21:36] <provola> I'm asking only for general advice.
[21:37] <provola> It doesn't work as it says "undefined reference to 'sin' "
[21:38] <trism> provola: how are you compiling it? you must specify -lm after the source files that reference it when passing to gcc
[21:38] <trism> provola: in ubuntu 11.10+ anyway, since the linker is more strict
[21:38] <provola> I know, but we're using an IDE and I can't specify -lm
[21:39] <provola> We'rem not using a script or so, we're using a software, it's a study purpose.
[21:39] <trism> provola: might help to specify what IDE you are using, I'm sure there are options for it in the project settings
[21:40] <provola> Code::Blocks
[21:40] <provola> I've googled but didn't find anything
[21:41] <provola> search string: "codeblocks ubuntu math.h lm"
[21:41] <alankila> aren't things like sin() supposed to be intrinsic anyway
[21:42] <trism> alankila: we used to get implicit references to many things before 11.10, but the linker is more strict now, so you have to specify -lm
[21:42] <alankila> well whatever, but if it's intrinsic there shouldn't be a linkage to sin
[21:43] <provola> Now I'm downloading this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe2kINbOngA
[21:43] <trism> alankila: I just said it isn't anymore
[21:44] <alankila> sounds like a step backwards. Why isn't it anymore?
[21:45] <trism> alankila: http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking
[21:45] <trism> alankila: although the fedora link on that page has better details
[21:47] <alankila> trism: unfortunately I still do not understand why sin is not intrinsic anymore, if it was before. What does this page have to do with that?
[21:47] <JUR> CIAO
[21:48] <Rook> L9r, JUR.
[21:48] <trism> alankila: it was always in libm, libc uses symbols from libm, so when you linked with libc, you implicitly got libm too, now you don't
[21:49] <JUR> LIST):
[21:49] <alankila> trism: I see
[21:50] <JUR> SI PUO AVERE LA LISTA
[21:50] <nemetroid> hi, I want to upgrade from natty to precise, but update manager only shows 11.10, any ideas?
[21:51] <geartrooper> hello somehow I botched my upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 and I need help
[21:51] <k1l> nemetroid: you need to update to oneiric first. you cant overtake on the upgrade route besides the lts to lts step
[21:51] <mister_> hi, i just set the resolution too high, now my monitor is plack. i logged in into this tty, so now i'm here. how can i get a graphical login again?
[21:51] <alankila> and it seems sin() is not intrinsic
[21:52] <brandon> gello
[21:52] <brandon> hows it  going
[21:52] <Chuck_Norris> mister_: sudo service lightdm restart
[21:53] <mister_> Chuck_Norris: ok, thx for that hint...
[21:53] <alankila> probably never was either
[21:53] <mister_> Chuck_Norris: thank you :)
[21:53] <trism> alankila: interestingly, if you call sin with a constant though, you don't need libm since gcc implements a special version
[21:53] <Chuck_Norris> np
[21:54] <alankila> trism: constant folding, I imagine
[21:54] <sk8|> Chuck_Norris, any idea why wifi disconnects when removed from power source?
[21:54] <alankila> gcc is pretty good at that, propagating constant values, evaluating statically known conditions, removing dead code, etc.
[21:55] <Chuck_Norris> sk8|: no idea but  you can try "jupiter" por managing devices
[21:55] <nemetroid> right, i need to install oneiric on the way from natty. might as well start fresh in that case i guess.
[21:56] <sk8|> i will try jupiter
[21:56] <Chuck_Norris> sk8|: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/jupiter ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install jupiter
[21:56] <sk8|> gracias
[21:56] <mister_> Chuck_Norris: i am really surpirsed that there is such a problem for gnomeshell and unity to work on higher resolution :/ seems like i'll be only able to use gnome calssic or xfce or something like that
[21:56] <Chuck_Norris> de nada xD
[21:57] <mister_> Chuck_Norris: ofc it's my old hardware... but i thought at wort it might go slow...
[21:57] <ikonia> mister_: you can use gnome shell on any resolution your card supports
[21:57] <mister_> worst
[21:57] <mister_> ikonia: i used the monitors dialog to set everything
[21:58] <ikonia> mister_: that doesn't change what I just said
[21:58] <Chuck_Norris> mister_: ye, just use those DE they are lightway
[21:59] <Chuck_Norris> lightway* =P
[21:59] <aspidites> does a symlick to /usr/bin/python2 exist in ubuntu?
[21:59] <Urchin> where can I see my graphics card ram?
[21:59] <aspidites> or is it only python and python3 ?
[22:00] <mister_> ikonia: Chuck_Norris thank you both for your input!
[22:00] <hash> got the folder to work dont know what i did
[22:00] <Chuck_Norris> mister_: np
[22:00] <aspidites> Urchin: combination of lspci and grep of xorg logs
[22:00] <aspidites> lspci | grep VGA to find out device id
[22:01] <aspidites> in my case, its 00:02.0, so i'd then...
[22:01] <hash> so I need to know how to run the program with out having to open a terminal and leaving it open
[22:01] <aspidites> or wait. don't need grep
[22:02] <aspidites> Urchin: lspci -v -s <id>
[22:02] <aspidites> in my case, lspci -v -s 00:02.0
[22:02] <aspidites> could grep that for Memory and that will tell you memory
[22:02] <hash> ie start automatically when i start my comp
[22:03] <aspidites> depends on your desktop. if you're in ubuntu, i presume gnome, so http://www.ghacks.net/2009/04/08/add-an-application-to-gnomes-autostart/
[22:03] <aspidites> or more specifically, http://askubuntu.com/questions/48321/how-to-start-applications-at-startup-automatically-in-unity
[22:03] <bairui> I keep losing my net connection (usb wifi device TP-LINK TL-WN821N, using the ath9k_htc driver). When lost, iwconfig either shows blank information for all devices, or hangs and doesn't respond. Running on arch, this happens much less frequently. On ubuntu, it's happening around ten times a day. :-(
[22:03] <mister_> quit
[22:05] <hash> aspidites: thanks
[22:05] <aspidites> hash: you're welcome
[22:07] <hash> aspidites: just to make sure im typing the right command under start up applications since i open it in a terminal with ~/.audiogalaxy/audiogalaxy it would be the same command there right
[22:08] <geartrooper> hello my upgrade to 12.04 was interrupted and running sudo dpkg --configure -a reveals a problem with libqt3-mt-dev.  Can someone help me with this problem/
[22:10] <jc_> hello
[22:12] <crazypete> how do check if overlayfs is available on my installation?
[22:14] <kingnebex> hey guys
[22:16] <kingnebex>  im having problems...my computr is using a long time to load on startup can any one help me with a solution?
[22:16] <mickster04> kingnebex: why do you think that's a problem? how new is your pc?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: run:  dmesg | less    look for large spaces in the time on the left
[22:16] <BlueEagle> kingnebex: Well it would help if you could be a tad more spesific. Have you tried disabling bootsplash to see what is really going on? What does dmesg say?
[22:17] <kingnebex> nt  new bt its nt that full
[22:17] <kingnebex> BlueEagle> ho do i do that?
[22:18] <nerdistmonk> i updated my kernel and now my firewall has stopped working (Error with ufw-init) can anyone help
[22:19] <BlueEagle> kingnebex: When I google "ubuntu disable bootsplash" i find several related articles. But as ActionParsnip also pointed out, checking dmesg would be a more logical first step.
[22:19] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: When do you receive that error?
[22:19] <nerdistmonk> when i try to type in sudo ufw enable
[22:20] <nerdistmonk> the firewall doesnt work at bootup either
[22:20] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: Does the kernel log say anything useful when you run that command?
[22:20] <nerdistmonk> wheres the kernel log located?
[22:20] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: /var/log/kern.log
[22:21] <mickster04> kingnebex: it probably isn't related to how full your hdd is, but the speed at which it can read and write data...and other things...get a terminal open (ctrl+alt+T perhaps?)
[22:21] <gnutun> hey all; apt isnt allowing me to upgrade to a new version of a package, despite it being listed in the available versions; how can i tell why it's not being upgraded?
[22:21] <ruediger> gnutun: by the error message that apt gives you
[22:22] <Jak2000> i installed a .deb package
[22:22] <BlueEagle> Jak2000: Grats.
[22:22] <fep> i gt an usb funskjon ærrør
[22:22] <Jak2000> with dpkg -i hwo to uninstall?
[22:22] <fep> jp+e ah fuclk
[22:22] <hash>  
[22:22] <hash>   
[22:22] <hash>  
[22:22] <FloodBot1> hash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <gnutun> ruediger, i can apt-get install it with a forced version (e.g. package=version) and it does it fine, but won't do it automatically
[22:23] <nerdistmonk> i dont see anything
[22:23] <BlueEagle> fep: Is your keyboard broken?
[22:23] <fep> bliu SPFRRY IM DREUNK
[22:23] <fep> SORFY
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> Jak2000: could use apt-get
[22:23] <fep> sorry
[22:23] <BlueEagle> fep: Then I think you should leave the error until you sober up.
[22:23] <hash> what
[22:23] <fep> i aGREE
[22:24] <fep> exuse myself
[22:24] <ruediger> gnutun: maybe it required a dist-upgrade
[22:24] <nerdistmonk> idk what to do, ive tried flushing iptables and resetting ufw, ive tried reinstalling ufw
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Jak2000: as its a deb it will integrate into the packages just like the ones from the repos
[22:24] <salvosk44444> !list
[22:24] <gnutun> ruediger, is there a way to tell?
[22:25] <ruediger> run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:25] <fep> i got a c-60 instead of intel a50m , why does ubuntu does slow in qwuibvi, does irt goes faster original
[22:25] <ruediger> gnutun: apt-get upgrade reports those as "kept back"
[22:25] <Dshoe> whats goin on guys
[22:26] <fep> amd
[22:26] <gnutun> ruediger, they're not in that list
[22:26] <mel> hi
[22:26] <gnutun> ruediger, the newer versions are in lucid-security
[22:26] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: Did you try googling: "Error with ufw-init" or the exact error message you are receiving?
[22:26] <nerdistmonk> yeah....
[22:27] <gnutun> ruediger, synaptic still lists the one in lucid main in its "latest version" column, even though the newer one is listed in the "versions" tab
[22:27] <pqatsi> Ubuntu have https://secunia.com/advisories/49381/ bug reported?
[22:27] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: Did it actually read "Problem running ufw-init"?
[22:27] <pqatsi> P.s: CVE still candidate
[22:27] <nerdistmonk> yea
[22:28] <nerdistmonk> and then it enables the firewall and proceeds in blocking everything
[22:28] <Dshoe> I made the mistake of moving my windows partition during the day. this is going to take houurrsss.
[22:28] <nerdistmonk> i got you beat, im backing up a 2 TB disk right now
[22:28] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: Oh.. Nice of you to mention that piece of info. I assumed that it did nothing...
[22:28] <Dshoe> damn man
[22:28] <Dshoe> haha you do
[22:28] <fep> is an c-60 better than an intekl \\+++¨¨¨¨ 1,6 ghz
[22:29] <Dshoe> I hate being on live cd
[22:29] <Dshoe> and not having another PC
[22:29] <nerdistmonk> funny i said that at the beginning already
[22:29] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: What does `ufw status` give you?
[22:30] <nerdistmonk> inactive becasue if i try to enable it , it blocks everything regardless of default rules
[22:30] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: No, you said the error message was something different that it actually was and that the firewall was "not working". A firewall that is blocking everything is working perfectly.
[22:30] <nerdistmonk> nerdistmonk: i updated my kernel and now my firewall has stopped working (Error with ufw-init) can anyone help
[22:31] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: My point exactly. That's not what is happening at all.
[22:31] <Dshoe> man, I wish I had more experience with this stuff
[22:32] <Dshoe> while playing with Ubuntu and hackintoshing I ended up with like 3 unallocated partitions
[22:32] <Dshoe> and now I have to move everything around
[22:32] <crazypete> how do I check which filesystems are available?
[22:32] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: Are you accessing the box via SSH?
[22:32] <nerdistmonk> no.....im typing to you on it...
[22:32] <MrNetflix> Hi, I want to run netflix in Ubuntu. I've tried to install firefox using wine and silverlight, but I don't think the silverlight install is working. I'm not interested in using a virtual machine or windows emulator, this is an old machine.
[22:33] <Dshoe> man I'm so happy I installed ubuntu again though
[22:33] <Dshoe> makes my pretty decent lappy even faster
[22:33] <Dshoe> stupid fast
[22:33] <mneptok> MrNetflix: not possible. only the Windows Flash player has the DRM bits necessary to enable Netflix playback.
[22:33] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: Ok. Is your IRC client accessing the server on port 6667?
[22:34] <nerdistmonk> i guess it is, i havent touched it
[22:34] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: or even better try `ufw allow 80` followed by `ufw enable` and see if you can access web pages. If you can then the issue is reading the configuration file.
[22:34] <mneptok> MrNetflix: Windows and OSX, rather.
[22:34] <ichbinder> hello. My system isn't booting anymore. In recovery mode, it needs a very long time after it says: "attached scsi generic sg7 type 5". And then, after 3 Minutes or so, it gives me some output and the last part starts with "Call Trace: ..."
[22:35] <ichbinder> any idea what might be wrong?
[22:35] <nerdistmonk> blueeagle why doesnt ufw default allow outgoing work
[22:35] <nerdistmonk> and that doesnt fix my init anyways
[22:35] <MrNetflix> mneptok, I'm aware of the DRM problem. I'm looking for a workaround... I am also aware it has been done by a few people.
[22:35] <crazypete> how do I check which filesystem _types_  are available?
[22:35] <mneptok> MrNetflix: not to my knowledge it hasn't.
[22:35] <Dshoe> gparted
[22:35] <Dshoe> would be what id use crazypete
[22:35] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: Answering questions is easy. Figuring out what the problem is, that is the hard part. Why don't we try figure out what the hard part is first?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> MrNetflix: I think you may need to dual boot
[22:36] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: I know that allowing port 80 won't resolve the root cause, but it will help identify it.
[22:36] <mneptok> MrNetflix: this is not some issue that crops up randomly in the Linux community. our platform is just not supported.
[22:36] <crazypete> Dshoe, ?
[22:36] <JohnTeddy> I have a laptop, I attached an additional screen. There is this invisible wall/line about 15% of the bottom of my additional screen where I can not cross the mouse cursor over it. This might be because my additional screen is much bigger than my laptop screen. How can I get rid of this invisible line?
[22:36] <Dshoe> its a program
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> MrNetflix: it may be coming native to Linux but it's been back and forth so much now
[22:36] <MrNetflix> mneptok, see here: http://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?t=17530    previous scripts have been able to do this
[22:36] <Dshoe> in the software store
[22:36] <MrNetflix> ActionParnsip, not interested in dual booting either, just trying to get it to run inside ubuntu
[22:37] <Dshoe> you're talking about formatting a drive or partition right crazypete ?
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> MrNetflix: i'd put money on you not getting it to work
[22:37] <BlueEagle> JohnTeddy: Which make and model is your GPU?
[22:38] <mneptok> MrNetflix: a 2 year old hack is hardly going to be reliable.
[22:38] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: Were you able to access web pages?
[22:38] <nerdistmonk> enabled ufw resulted in error in init
[22:38] <crazypete> Dshoe, no, I want to see which filesystem types are available on my installation. Particularly wether aufs or overlayfs are available?
[22:38] <nerdistmonk> hang on
[22:38] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: Yes, but were you able to access web pages?
[22:38] <nerdistmonk> you said irc is port 6667
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> nerdistmonk: it is
[22:39] <mneptok> MrNetflix: your best bet for stability and reliability is dual-booting, or a very lightweight VM for Windows/Netflix.
[22:39] <nerdistmonk> no
[22:39] <nerdistmonk> it wont let me out
[22:39] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: Did it give you an error when you tried `ufw allow 80`?
[22:40] <nerdistmonk> nope
[22:40] <yellownblue> irc.anonops.net
[22:40] <nerdistmonk> but it did when i enabled ufw
[22:40] <nerdistmonk> then it blocked it all
[22:40] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: I see. Can you pastebin your rules?
[22:41] <nerdistmonk> what rules they were wiped out
[22:41] <nerdistmonk> i uninstalled and reinstalled ufw, so the only rules would be the ones you asked me to add
[22:41] <BlueEagle> ...so you do not have any before.rule or after.rules?
[22:42] <nerdistmonk> i installed ufw, then told it ufw default allow outgoing
[22:42] <nerdistmonk> then ufw default deny incoming
[22:42] <nerdistmonk> then i added port 80 and 6667
[22:42] <nerdistmonk> then i enabled
[22:43] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: I see. You said you had reinstalled ufw. When you did, which command did you use? reinstall and uninstall do not necessarily remove configuration files.
  hey r u still round?
[22:43] <nerdistmonk> well deleting /etc/ufw certainly will remove the rules
[22:43] <nerdistmonk> lol
[22:43] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: For real?
[22:44] <BlueEagle> kingnebex: Nope.
[22:44] <nerdistmonk> yeah, i did complete remove, then delete the folder
[22:44] <BlueEagle> nerdistmonk: By complete remove you ofcourse mean apt-get purge ufw
  goood then can u help?
[22:44] <JohnTeddy> BlueEagle: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[22:45] <nerdistmonk> the synaptic equivelent of it
[22:45] <BlueEagle> kingnebex: I cannot help unless you state a problem. Also when you use "u" and "r" as words I become less inclined to provide assistance.
[22:45] <nerdistmonk> and regardless deleting the /etc/ufw folder removes the rules
[22:45] <nerdistmonk> and the configs
[22:45] <aspidites> btw, can't you just pass non-free to the debian repo line to get "questionably licesned" stuff
[22:45] <aspidites> (questionably not meaning illegal)
  i just want to fix my computer in being slow
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: tried Unity2D session?
[22:47] <BlueEagle> kingnebex: Good. Then I assume you have either reviewed your dmesg and/or disabled bootsplash. Did anything appear to take an abnormal amount of time during the boot process?
[22:48] <Jordan_U> aspidites: I don't understand your question. Could you rephrase it?
  how do i do that?
[22:48] <BlueEagle> kingnebex: 00:16 < ActionParsnip> kingnebex: run:  dmesg | less    look for large spaces in the time on the left | 00:19 < BlueEagle> kingnebex: When I google "ubuntu disable bootsplash" i find several related articles. But as ActionParsnip also pointed out, checking dmesg would be a more logical first step.
[22:48] <nerdistmonk> meh well i guess im going to go purge iptables, ufw and gfw and then delete every living instance of the 3 and put them back in since this heap wont work all because of a routine kernel upgrade
[22:49] <BlueEagle> kingnebex: Also, when you place the angle braces around my nickname the line does not highlight in my IRC-client. If you type "bluee" and press the [TAB]-button your IRC-client will most likely auto-complete my nick and add a colon as well.
[22:55] <sk8|> any wifi wizards around?
[22:55] <scientes> anyone know how i can turn of xvidieo in flash?
[22:55] <scientes> and make it use x11 for video?
[22:56] <Chuck_Norris> scientes: do you see blue flash videos?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> sk8|: ask away
[22:56] <scientes> Chuck_Norris, no, not the xvda extension bug
[22:57] <scientes> oh i found it
[22:57] <sk8|> ActionParsnip, when i'm running on battery power wifi disconnects
[22:57] <scientes> wait, didn't seem to work
[22:57] <scientes> it still tries to use xvideo when i untick "use hardware acceleration"
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> sk8|: does the system have a make and model?
[22:57] <sk8|> but when plugged in to a powersource it works
[22:57] <scientes> xvideo is broken with nouveau on my system
[22:57] <sk8|> sorry is a toshiba satellite a215-s5818
[22:57] <scientes> and it breaks youtube, except for 240p
[22:58] <scientes> nah, even 240p has problems
[22:58] <sk8|> wifi card is i believe an Atheros 242x/542x
[22:58] <schultza> i installed postgresql on ubuntu... is there anything else i need to setup? like LD_LIBRARY_PATH ? (this is from the ubuntu apt-get database)
[22:58] <Chuck_Norris> scientes: did you try HTML5 on youtube?
[22:58] <Chuck_Norris> http://youtube.com/html5
[22:59] <scientes> Chuck_Norris, html5 works ok, but that is not available for all videos
[22:59] <scientes> Chuck_Norris, you can also build firefox 15 with h264 support via gstreamer
[22:59] <sk8|> i just did pm-powersave false and it seems to be holding on to a signal for a little long but still unsure whether it will disconnect or not
[22:59] <scientes> but thats not the problem, the problem is that xvideo is broken
[22:59] <schultza> nevermind... it's time to go home today
[22:59] <scientes> it broke vlc and totem too
[22:59] <Chuck_Norris> scientes: ye, try a firefox plugin called "falsh video replacer"
[22:59] <sk8|> tried some (many) other things with no luck
[23:00] <Chuck_Norris> it will replace most of the youtube's videos
[23:00] <sk8|> ActionParsnip, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12024286#post12024286  : I posted sys info there not sure if it will be useful or not since it's maintaining a wifi connection
[23:01] <Chuck_Norris> brb
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> sk8|: what wireless driver do you use?
[23:03] <sk8|> ath5k
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> sk8|: I suggest you report a bug with acpi
[23:04] <sk8|> not a power management issue?
[23:04] <scientes> Chuck_Norris, yeah i need flash video to work on all sites
[23:04] <sk8|> brb
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> sk8|: try:  sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> sk8|: http://askubuntu.com/questions/85214/how-can-i-prevent-iwconfig-power-management-from-being-turned-on
[23:08] <djhash> Is there a list of known webcams and if they are supported in ubuntu?
[23:09] <xangua> !webcam | djhash
[23:09] <PRINCEOFPEACE22> Hello I need help to install Ubuntu to 16 GB Pend drive
[23:10] <djhash> xangua: Thanks!
[23:10] <PRINCEOFPEACE22> i cant seem to to enable the usb mode in my boot menu
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> PRINCEOFPEACE22, use the per-session boot
[23:11] <PRINCEOFPEACE22> whats the per-session bioot?
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> PRINCEOFPEACE22, and check for any locks in the bios as well
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> PRINCEOFPEACE22, it is a menu outside of the bios that is what the name says, mine is a f12 prompt, you can find that info on the web if needed
[23:12] <PRINCEOFPEACE22> i went there but it says nother about usb booting
[23:12] <PRINCEOFPEACE22> it just says *normal
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> what is the computer and model PRINCEOFPEACE22
[23:13] <PRINCEOFPEACE22> Dell Dimension E521
[23:13] <sk8|> ActionParsnip, I did that a few days ago
[23:13] <sk8|> i may just have to go back to 11.10
[23:13] <sk8|> still no dice
[23:13] <sk8|> i turned off powermanagement to the card
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> PRINCEOFPEACE22, try f12 like you would be going to the bios my dell uses this key
[23:14] <sk8|> it's been off power source for about 10-15 mins so far
[23:14] <sk8|> and it's holding on
[23:14] <sk8|> if i did something i have no idea what
[23:14] <PRINCEOFPEACE22> ok then what?
[23:14] <sk8|> hah
[23:15] <PRINCEOFPEACE22> illee are you a bot?
[23:15] <PRINCEOFPEACE22> wilee are u a bot?
[23:16] <PRINCEOFPEACE22> cause you beep every time you ansewer me
[23:16] <PRINCEOFPEACE22> ok ill be back
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> sk8|: run:  history     you may see clues
[23:17] <sk8|> rgr
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> PRINCEOFPEACE22, page 117 the manual. http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dime521/en/index.htm
[23:17] <sk8|> i'm gonna reboot and see if it holds a connection after a reboot
[23:19] <pc-moon> i wanna know how i can install Cinelerraby code
[23:20] <Zoohouse> I'm connected directly to my home DSL. ssh localhost works just fine but port 22 is closed when I use www.canyouseeme.org. I also ran sudo ufw disable. What might be wrong?
[23:20] <xangua> pc-moon: http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[23:20] <pc-moon> what i can do by this url
[23:20] <pc-moon> https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa
[23:21] <PRINCEOFPEACE22> Tank you you are very good at this!
[23:22] <PRINCEOFPEACE22> "thank you!"
[23:22] <xangua> pc-moon: did you read the part that says, on bold and big letters, "Adding this PPA to your system"¿
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> PRINCEOFPEACE22, I never bother with the bios for booting. ;)
[23:22] <pc-moon> no
[23:22] <pc-moon> how add
[23:22] <PRINCEOFPEACE22> ok
[23:25] <pc-moon> what's mean this code
[23:25] <pc-moon> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[23:25] <wj> is there a way, to mimic windows drive letters in ubuntu?
[23:25] <damms005> room
[23:25] <Zoohouse> What's the command to restart a service like sshd?
[23:25] <pc-moon> and how i can add to this code
[23:25] <pc-moon> i wanna add https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa
[23:26] <eagle_eye> Zoohouse: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[23:27] <Zoohouse> ah
[23:27] <Zoohouse> eagle_eye: thanks
[23:27] <eagle_eye> np
[23:27] <damms005> I am using wubi installed ubuntu. pls is there a way I can install real ubuntu 12 ffrom CD and still have my current apps(filezilla, bluefish, etc.) or will I simply have to redownload
[23:27] <stefancrs> morning
[23:28] <yeats> !clone | damms005
[23:28] <galvy>  /join #ubuntu-zh
[23:28] <stefancrs> awkward join.fail
[23:28] <mcphail> damms005: redownloading is the most sensible way
[23:29] <rypervenche> damms005: You could backup your /home directory and list of installed packages before doing it though.
[23:29] <damms005> yeats:  what'd you mean?
[23:29] <stefancrs> Hey, I need to set up a bunch of users (for uploading via ftp) but I need to have another user (www-data:www-data) have full access (777) to anythng those specific ftp users upload, how would one do that?
[23:29] <sk8|> ActionParsnip, no dice upon reboot
[23:29] <damms005> rypervenche: how'd I get list of installed apps to backup
[23:30] <Jordan_U> !clone | damms005
[23:30] <rypervenche> damms005: People have said it twice now :P
[23:31] <damms005> rypervenche: well, you can be so nice as to tell me what you guys mean by !CLONE
[23:31] <WG1337> Hi! I'm using jailkit and I need to update java in it. How can I do it? Trid to copy /usr/lib/jvm but in jail still says old java version.
[23:31] <rypervenche> damms005: ubottu just told you in plain English.
[23:32] <pikkachu> how to add a folder to the unity bar?
[23:33] <eagle_eye> pikkachu: open the folder and pin it to the launcher
[23:34] <damms005> rypervenche: is your style not okay?(copying /home and list of all packages)
[23:35] <xangua> pikkachu: eagle_eye just bookmark it in Nautilus to show in the places list in right clic
[23:36] <Jordan_U> damms005: Make sure that you don't install the "lupin-support" package on your non-wubi installation. (or at least don't leave it installed long)
[23:37] <rypervenche> damms005: It's the same thing. The list of packages is what ubottu told you how to do. As for your home directory, copy it to a USB drive or something before installing :)
[23:37] <damms005> ubottu: i guess aptitude is acommand. (I typed man aptitude and there is no entry for it on my ubuntu 11.1)
[23:37] <Jordan_U> damms005: ubottu is a channel bot. We send her commands like "!clone" and she displays answers to commonly asked questions.
[23:37] <rypervenche> damms005: You have to install it first. Here, talk to me in PM.
[23:37] <eagle_eye> damms005: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[23:38] <NotJimCarrey> i'm trying to upgrade to 12.04 and i'm getting 'E:Couldn't configure pre-depend libdb5.1 for libpam-modules, probably a dependency cycle.' Any ideas?
[23:39] <eagle_eye> !upgrade | NotJimCarrey
[23:39] <Jordan_U> NotJimCarrey: What release are you trying to upgrade from, what steps did you follow, and how far through the upgrade process are you?
[23:42] <NotJimCarrey> Jordan_U: upgrading from 11.10
[23:44] <natervader13> hey guys I need some help here on my laptop
[23:45] <natervader13> Im adding two four gig ram sticks into it, but when it boots the screen does some weird color thing
[23:46] <eagle_eye> !ot | natervader13
[23:47] <Jordan_U> NotJimCarrey: I asked three questions.
[23:47] <NotJimCarrey> oh
[23:47] <NotJimCarrey> lol
[23:47] <jordy> alguém ta ai ?
[23:48] <NotJimCarrey> ran do-release-upgrade, and it gets to part way through dependency checks
[23:48] <jordy> #ubuntu-br
[23:48] <Jordan_U> NotJimCarrey: Could you pastebin the entire output from do-release-upgrade?
[23:48] <NotJimCarrey> updating nvidia drivers real quick, then i can tell you exactly where
[23:49] <WG1337> I'm using jailkit and I need to update java in it. How can I do it? Trid to copy /usr/lib/jvm but in jail still says old java version.
[23:49] <jordy> como eu faço pra entrar na outra sala ? --'
[23:49] <eagle_eye> !patience | WG1337
[23:49] <Gallomimia> is it possible to make the ssh server in ubuntu listen on more than one port?
[23:50] <JoseeAntonioR> !br | jordy
[23:50] <jordy> #ubuntubr
[23:50] <jordy> use #ubuntu-br
[23:50] <jordy> OPS
[23:50] <jordy>  #ubuntu-br
[23:50] <jordy> #ubuntu-br
[23:50] <WG1337> ubottu, sorry, didn't want to repeat, simply asked again maybe if someone came and know the answer
[23:50] <WG1337> lol
[23:52] <eagle_eye> jordy: I think /join #ubuntu-br may help
[23:53] <serpentar> !patience
[23:54] <eagle_eye> !guidelines | serpentar
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Gallomimia: in theory yes
[23:55] <talkradio200> d
[23:55] <Gallomimia> ActionParsnip: is it easy?
[23:55] <arooni-mobile> i'm using wget trying to download .pdf files from getabstract where i have a username/password.  when you login to the site; it's over https;, but then after its http.  i've tried using the http-user/http-password options for wget and it appears that's not working (resulting html page shows me as logged out and says that that file doenst exist (it does ; i think i just havent authenticated yet).  ideas?
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> Gallomimia: http://fixunix.com/ssh/364505-running-multiple-sshd-instances-one-server.html
[23:56] <Gallomimia> cool
[23:56] <Jak2000> Gallomimia you know about percona?
[23:56] <Gallomimia> arooni-mobile: try curl? it supports authentication methods
[23:56] <Gallomimia> Jak2000: no what's a percona
[23:56] <Jak2000> Gallomimia: http://www.percona.com/downloads/Percona-Server-5.5/Percona-Server-5.5.24-26.0/deb/
[23:56] <Jak2000> wich reocmmend download?
[23:57] <Gallomimia> no seriously. wtf is a percona
[23:58] <pikkachu> xangua: eagle_eye's is a solution to me
[23:59] <eagle_eye> pikkachu: ;)