/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/06/14/#kubuntu.txt

blackjacketit seems like everytime I login, my desktop is messed; the icons are missing until I switch to another activity and back00:24
blackjacketand there is a scroll bar, even though I only 1 row of icons...00:24
blackjacketI noticed this problem after installing the LXDE desktop along side KDE on Kubuntu 12.04, so I have a feeling that might the cause00:25
blackjacketdoes anyone know how to fix this?00:27
blackjacketman, I never get any help here... off to askubuntu i guess00:30
mydogsnameisrudyblackjacket:  you were here for 6 minutes and your upset ;) thats funny00:35
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mmmfungogood evening! i was trying to update my system and i keep getting an error about google's signing key. i disable the repo and removed chrome then reinstalled it and im still getting the error. it is as follows04:06
mmmfungoW: GPG error: http://dl.google.com stable Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A040830F7FAC5991 Google, Inc. Linux Package Signing Key <linux-packages-keymaster@google.com>04:06
mmmfungoany help resolving this would be greatly appreciated :)04:07
skreech__mmmfungo: Which repo?04:28
mmmfungoone second, this is a of what someone suggested in #ubuntu and the results im getting04:28
mmmfungohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1040237/04:28
mmmfungohttp://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en_US  :::  http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en04:29
qbitwait for them to fix it - it's their problem04:33
mmmfungooh ok haha, not used to it not being something i did...thank you!04:33
qbitdisable the repo until they do04:33
mmmfungook04:34
mmmfungothank you for the help!04:34
qbitgive it a week, reenable for testm and either they fixed it, or disable and wait some more04:35
qbiteventually they get around to it, but then they go and break stuff again with fair regularity04:36
mmmfungohehe04:37
shahriyarguliyevhi05:19
bazhanghi05:20
shahriyarguliyevare you moderator?05:22
bazhangshahriyarguliyev, does it matter? asking for free vpn in support channels is offtopic05:23
shahriyarguliyevactually i have a host server but i cannot connect it, sayin VPN Connection failed. i don't know whether it is depends on Ubuntu or the Server05:24
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teo_mo06:16
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fastaA whole panel doesn't respond anymore, but uses no CPU either.06:42
WizardHi.06:50
lordievaderGood morning07:08
WizardHi lordievader.07:09
SmurphyMorning ...07:26
WizardHu Smurphy.07:32
WizardHi*07:32
lordievaderHey Smurphy how are you?07:33
Smurphyfine ... thx :} how  'bout ya all ;)07:34
lordievaderSmurphy: I'm allright, got tea and music, what is it that you want more?07:35
Smurphy:) nothing. I'm fine ...07:37
lordievaderSmurphy: :)07:39
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SmurphyDamn - I swear, I won't be playing Crysis 2 until 3am anymore ... I just can't wake up anymore !!! today !08:18
Smurphy*help*08:18
WizardSmurphy: SUch topics are covered on #kubuntu-offtopic08:31
Wizard:P08:31
Smurphyyeah... got many channels I could cover that :]08:32
Wizard:D08:32
Smurphystrange - mist people joining using quassel. Using irsii - and yet - I can't start it without prepending a strace -eopen in front of it.08:32
SmurphyWon't start without it, and I never found out why ...08:32
WizardSmurphy: o_O08:48
WizardThat's a weird case.08:48
SmurphyI know ... but it works.08:48
WizardMaybe your config files are screwed?08:48
SmurphyNope - tried without config-files. same thing.08:48
WizardHave you checked strace output?08:49
WizardI mean, strace it without that option and check what's wrong in log.08:49
Smurphystrace output won't give me anything usable, nothing that would lead to identify the reason at least.08:51
cadavid4jCan anyone tell me the default location that ktorrent places completed downloads? I've tried searching all over the place but I just can't find them08:52
lordievadercadavid4j: I have a feeling that he will just put it in the dir of the .torrent file. Unless it has some configuration rule saying it needs to move the file.08:54
lordievadercadavid4j: Perhaps /tmp?08:54
cadavid4jlordievader: Yeah I'm just not sure. I deleted to the torrent file already through the program so I don't know where they are stored08:56
lordievadercadavid4j: Where was it when you opened the file, and have you checked /tmp?08:57
lordievadercadavid4j: Or some sub-dir of /tmp08:57
cadavid4jI opened the file from the internet automatically...I have checked /tmp08:58
cadavid4jNothing there08:58
lordievadercadavid4j: You could do: "find / -iname <some-file-name-from-torrent>" (You might need sudo-rights for this)08:59
Wizardcadavid4j: Can't you just check in settings? :P09:00
cadavid4jWizard: I checked in settings and the folder where it says it stores torrent information doesn't have the completed downloaded files09:01
Smurphy.oO(why are people using torrent ... ???)09:01
lordievaderWizard: KTorrent does not show in it settings where he downloads stuff to, so it is probably torrent dependent.09:02
lordievadercadavid4j: Anyhow let the system search for it, he will be quite a bit faster than doing it manually.09:03
Wizard:(09:04
WizardSmurphy: To download files.09:04
WizardBtw, it's not "folder". It's a directory :P09:05
lordievaderWizard: Come on, same thing.09:05
Wizard:P09:05
cadavid4jAlright well I still can't seem to find the files. I guess I'll change the default setting and see if it works after that. Thanks for the help09:06
lordievaderSmurphy: For new releases of a distro Bittorrent is quite usefull. Look at the launch of 12.04.09:06
Smurphylordievader: I use HTTP Download. 2 weeks after :} I always wait for the Big bugs to have hit before downloading and installing :)09:11
Wizard:)09:18
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simion314is 4.9 beta packaged for 4.9?10:33
simion314i mean for 12.0410:34
lordievadersimion314: You will probably not find it in the repos until it is out of the beta.10:43
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Idestemdfbgth11:01
IdestemHi!11:02
lordievaderHey Idestem11:04
Wizardhi Idestem.11:07
WizardWhat's wrong with this bots?11:08
BluesKajhiyas all11:20
WizardHi BluesKaj.11:20
BluesKajhey Wizard11:20
SmurphyThese bots spam ... too much.11:24
BluesKajSmurphy, what are you referring to ?11:31
SmurphyBluesKaj: As soon as u say something, a keyword - and Bam -> msg from Bot ...11:38
BluesKajSmurphy, keywords have to be preceded by a ! to invoke the bot , or a launchpad bug number11:41
SmurphyHmmm. What I thought first :}11:45
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ajaycb999quit13:26
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qwhello all13:27
qwhelp me please13:27
qwi am reinstall my system13:27
lordievader!ask | qw13:27
ubottuqw: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:27
qwbeacouse after upgrade my system started but many errors13:28
lordievaderqw: So what's your problem?13:28
qwnow i am use Description:Spark 10.413:29
qwbefor using kubuntu 10.1013:30
pandaubuntu_hi i don't find the workspace switching widget, i've tried to install it whit "apt-get install plasma-widgets-workspace"13:30
qwhelp my please using this system13:31
Smurphyqw: Guess you can't just make a cross-upgrade. Won't work.13:31
BluesKajpandaubuntu_, look for it in the panel "get widgets" , it's called the "pager"13:32
BluesKajSmurphy, in what manner "cross Upgrade" ?13:32
Smurphyfrom kubuntu to ISpark 10.4 ?13:32
qwyes13:33
lordievaderqw: Let me get this straight, did you try to reinstall with the (k)ubuntu 12.04 live cd?13:33
qwnow13:33
lordievaderqw: No? How then?13:33
pandaubuntu_BluesKaj: yes, there is, i've tried to add it on the panel, but it doesn't work13:34
BluesKajdouble click on it13:36
BluesKajit should show up in right hand side by the digital clock13:36
qwafter install kubuntu 10.04, i am upgrade to 10.10 do and now two houver's later i upgrade to 11.04 but in upgrade i see error ( error number 1 ), i am reinstall system beacouse were system started i se many many error's   and i am install Spark 10.0413:37
qwDescription:Spark 10.413:37
qwRelease:10.413:37
qwCodename:lucid13:37
BluesKajthen open the widget cashew and drag it to your preferred location in the panel, pandaubuntu_13:37
pandaubuntu_it seem that is "invisible" beacause there is made a small space (like a spacer) but there is nothing here, i double click there but nothing13:38
lordievaderqw: Not sure what you mean with Spark 10.04 is it a distro based on ubuntu?13:38
qwyes13:38
BluesKajpandaubuntu_, then go into system settings >workspace and see how many desktops are listed13:39
Linkmasterpandaubuntu_: sometimes on new systems, it shows up as a single workspace, you have to either add an extra workspace through system settings13:39
lordievaderqw: Then it Smurphy is probably right, you cannot (for as far as I know) hop from one distro to another with a simple upgrade. You need to completely re-install the system.13:39
LinkmasterBluesKaj: thats what I always do, its the fastest way to be able to see where the pager went13:40
qwokey now i am use Spark 10.0413:40
pandaubuntu_THANKS, NOW WORK (IT WAS AT 1 VIRTUAL DESKTOP)13:40
BluesKajqw , i prefer a real drumkit , myself :)13:40
BluesKajLinkmaster, yeah , I thought i said that :)13:41
pandaubuntu_other question, how is named the package that provide the language on kde?13:42
qw=)13:42
qwlordievade, yes i am reinstall system13:43
Linkmasterpandaubuntu_: you should be able to change that in system settings -> languages13:43
lordievaderqw: That is the only option if you want the Spark distro.13:43
pandaubuntu_there is only english, how can i get more languages13:45
pandaubuntu_there is a package for language?13:45
pandaubuntu_(for more used language)13:46
Linkmasterpandaubuntu_: which are you looking for? You can find it by opening up the muon package manager, and simply type in 'language' in the search bar, and it'll show as 'kde-l10n-xx' the 'xx' being whatever pack it is(e.g., ru for russian)13:48
pandaubuntu_no is "it" :P13:50
Linkmasteryeah, the package is 'kde-l10n-something13:53
pandaubuntu_on the language avariable is always only english, it 'cause i haven't restart?13:54
pandaubuntuthank at all now i have kde on my language14:00
Smurphydamn - and I made the translation of KDE 1.0 in french *rofl* Loooong time 114:01
Smurphy!14:01
BluesKajSmurphy, ??14:08
SmurphyBluesKaj: yes ?14:12
BluesKajKDE 1.0 in french?14:13
SmurphyBluesKaj: Yes. The entire po file translation, I did it for KDe 1.014:15
Smurphy*rofl* Took me almost a month to get it right :)14:15
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BluesKajok Smurphy , but my question is , why?14:19
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fastaI think one of the translations think a clock is the same thing as a bell.14:46
fastatranslators thinks*14:47
dieter_Hello - could someone tell me how I can stop the scree dump during shut down, in order to read the single messages before they disappear14:47
SmurphyBluesKaj: Because the KDE project needed someone to translate stuff. That's why ? or do you think translations are done automatically ?14:48
BluesKajSmurphy, understood, but why KDE 1.0, why not KDE3 or 414:54
lordievaderBluesKaj: Probably because it was a long time ago...14:54
BluesKajlordievader, do you mean that he's talking about something he did 13 yrs ago ? :P14:56
lordievaderI think so.14:57
lordievaderQuote: "I made the translation of KDE 1.0 in french *rofl* Loooong time 1" <-- see the long time?14:58
BluesKajyeah , I thought he meant , it took a long time , not a long time ago ..there's a big difference14:59
lordievaderBluesKaj: Could be, not sure, this is what I made of it.15:00
BluesKajwell ,anyway it's immaterial now andwe should be discussing this in offtopic15:01
dieter_Hello - could someone tell me how I can stop the scree dump during shut down, in order to read the single messages before they disappear15:02
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lordievaderdieter_: What do you mean with screen dump?15:03
lordievaderdieter_: Plymouth?15:03
SmurphyBluesKaj: Didn't have time after anymore -> had to work for a living :)15:04
dieter_When I shu down the system, after using the esc key to see the screen messages (=screen dump), the output halts for quite a while (high disc activity in the background). After that it outputs a few more lines (which I would like to read, because they are important), and turn off right on15:05
lordievaderdieter_: Don't those things get sent to a log?15:08
BluesKajdieter_, what about the logs , do you think /var/log might show what you're looking for ?15:08
dieter_probably: but which one?15:08
lordievaderdieter_: Something like /var/syslog?15:08
dieter_/var/log/syslog is quite long, so I do not know which entries are important for my problem15:10
dieter_is there a way to isolate entries that came just before turn off?15:11
lordievaderdieter_: What is your problem exactly?15:11
BluesKajdieter_, they're in time /sequential order , so it would probly be at the bottom of syslog1 from your last shutdown15:12
dieter_On shut down, my PC hangs for some minutes before actually turning off. During this time there is a big amount of file activities going on (HD led on the PC). After that, short before turning off, it display a few message, which show up to quickly - so I can't read them15:13
ybit2good morning!15:16
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qwhelp me15:17
dieter_syslog1 has its last line from yesterday, though my last shut down was today15:17
qwwhy i not see list programs in KPackageKit ?15:17
BluesKajqw, which kubuntu version are you running ?15:22
qwmy system is Spark 10.0415:23
qwDescription:    Spark 10.415:24
BluesKajsorry , not familiar with Spark ...is there no support chatroom for it ?15:24
BluesKaj!spark15:25
ikoniaspark is an IM client normally15:25
qwhttp://integra-l.ru/site/index.php/bluebird/spark15:25
BluesKajsounded like he was describing an OS , from what can see it's linux based software for drum machines15:26
ikoniacould be15:26
ikoniaahhh another re-spin15:26
qwhttp://pastebin.com/ttdPYEcJ15:27
BluesKajrussian or cyrillic at that15:27
BluesKajwhy do these guys come in here with their derivative probs and expect support15:28
lordievaderBluesKaj: He earlier had kubuntu installed, perhaps that is why?15:29
BluesKajno matter that's earlier15:29
lordievaderqw: You need to look for a Spark support irc channel, this is for kubuntu-related topics and simply put Spark is not.15:30
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qwSpark is based on Linux15:32
BluesKajqw , yes , but this kubuntu linux not spark linux15:35
qwwhy spark not linux?15:36
lordievaderqw: It's the same with Linux Mint, it is based on Ubuntu but you won't get support for it in the Ubuntu channel. Hell you can even talk about Ubuntu and Debian.15:36
qwokey15:37
qwthanks15:37
BluesKajspark is linux , but not kubuntu ..that's the point qw15:37
qwi am understand15:38
qwthank you)15:38
BluesKajBBL ...stuff to do15:38
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soee:) Skype 4.0 for linux hehe15:50
WizardDid anybody try plasma active? :)16:26
lordievaderWizard: Plasma active?16:28
WizardYup.16:28
lordievaderNever hear of :P16:29
Wizardhttp://plasma-active.org/16:29
lordievaderWizard: The tablet thingie?16:29
WizardProlly.16:30
lordievaderWizard: I don't have a tablet...16:30
WizardNah, Just Plasma does things well on a touchscreen16:30
Wizard;]16:30
WizardAnd I don't use KDE's activities, so I bet Plasma Active won't be useful for me.16:31
lordievaderI do use activities though, for work related things. Get a dull background.16:32
WizardI'm to much tied to organizing work on workspace grid :)16:35
WizardThat is enough for me.16:35
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wolf_ravenhello, after installing the ati drivers the bootsplash screen becomes broken,  how do i fix this?17:24
BluesKajwolf_raven, can you boot into kubuntu ? If so then just change the splash screen in ystem settings17:30
BluesKajsystem settings17:30
wolf_raveni can boot as normal, nothing rong with boot but after installing the ati drivers it says "Kubuntu 12.04" before the login screen17:31
Wizardwolf_raven: Hard to guess.17:36
wolf_ravenyeah the drivers brake the usplash screen...17:37
Wizardwolf_raven: I have the same "issue" on my Powerbook.17:37
WizardBut I've never cared much about it. I don't even know the mechanisms behind boot splash.17:37
BluesKajyes , that's normal ...the splash screen doesn't appear until after login , if you mean the grub boot menu then you''ll have to install kde-config-grub2  then change your grub image in system settings startup& shutdown17:40
BluesKajwolf_raven, ^17:40
Peace-BluesKaj: :D17:40
wolf_raveni read somewhere that the ati/nvidia drivers breaks the bootscreen/usplash17:41
BluesKajis it really that important anyway ?17:41
genii-aroundI usually find that the first boot after each time it has to reinstall the drivers ( like a kernel upgrade) it has the test only splash. Then subsequent boots seem to be normal.17:42
genii-aroundtest->text17:42
WizardI never install "drivers"17:44
Wizard:P17:44
genii-aroundI currently have nvidia-current ... so every time it re-does the DKMS stuff on kernel upgrade/update the first boot after has that annoying black on grey text screen. But after the first time it reverts to whatever I had before.17:45
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aheli'm on fedora right now, with my home on LVM. If i format root partition and install kubuntu, will kubuntu find my encripted home semiautomatically or will be a mess?17:53
Wizardahel: Try it out. Probably you will have to manually specify mountpoints.18:02
WizardActually, the installer detects and set's everything up *before* doing anything, so you risk nothing.18:02
Wizardsets*18:03
somekoolanyone tried recent KDE 4.9 beta?18:03
WizardAfter 4.7 and 4.8 I don't even want to know whats wrong with 4.9 :P18:03
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soeesomekool, yes18:07
soeeim using it now18:07
somekoolthe repo ppa:neon/ppa is quite standard ? or there is something else ?18:11
Wizardsomekool: None of PPAs is standard.18:11
WizardPPAs are user's private repositories and they are unreliable and can break your systemâ„¢18:12
Wizard!ppa18:12
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge18:12
somekooloh I found there is also ppa: kubuntu-ppa/beta18:13
soeeyup18:13
ahelthank you Wizard. i'll try the live image18:21
Wizardahel: You're welcome :]18:37
Wizardsoee: Why you are so active here while sitting quiet on -pl?18:37
soeeWizard, less retards here :/18:41
lordievaderGood evening18:42
lordievadersoee: Who is a retard?18:42
Wizardlordievader: #ubuntu-pl crew.18:43
Wizardsoee: :P18:43
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WizardHalf of active users haven't even seen Ubuntu.18:43
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lordievaderThat's bad18:47
sky100hi BluesKaj18:56
sky100hi lordie18:57
sky100lordievader,18:57
BluesKajhi sky10018:57
sky100could not resolve the k3b bug ..18:57
sky100updated the system now..18:58
BluesKajjust drpopped in for a few mins ...taking a break from repairs18:58
sky100ahh , ok BluesKaj18:58
sky100cool18:58
lordievaderHey sky10018:59
sky100hi19:02
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gabraffhi there!19:24
gabraffcould somebody help?19:26
lordievader!ask | gabraff19:26
ubottugabraff: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:26
gabraffi'm with a problem to watch video in youtube. I just install kubuntu, again on my computer, so then after a upgrade of packages, the youtube videos looks with the diferent colors, inverted color, how could i fix this?19:28
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lordievadergabraff: That is odd, inverted colors on youtube. What browser are you using? Also are you using something else than Adobe's flash?19:29
gabraffi'm using google chrome, and its happens with anyother browser. I guess i'm using just adobe flash.19:31
kkerwinHi. Anyone know what happened to the kregexpeditor program in Precise?19:31
kkerwinLooking for a good WYSIWYG regex editor.19:32
lordievadergabraff: Is it also happening with flash games?19:33
gabraffno19:34
lordievadergabraff: So we know it is related to flash video (flv), could you download a flash video and see if other players have the same problem. It could be a corrupted video codec.19:36
gabraffso, i downloaded a youtube video with minitub, then when i whatch it, its plays normal.19:38
BluesKajgabraff, look in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins , check for flashplugin-alternative.so19:50
gabraffwhat do i do with it?19:51
BluesKajmake sure it's there19:51
lordievaderGot d/c did I miss something?19:51
gabraffyes, it is.19:52
BluesKajthat's where chrome and firefox browsers link to when playing flash on a website19:52
BluesKajwhich graphics card, gabraff ?19:56
BluesKajand have you updated/upgraded since installing kubuntu ?19:57
gabraffnvidia gforce 9500 Gt 1GB19:57
BluesKajaha , installed the recommended driver in ssytem>additional drivers ?19:58
BluesKajgabraff ^19:58
gabraffyes, it was.19:59
BluesKajalso kubuntu-restricted-extras19:59
gabraffno20:00
BluesKajthen install kubuntu-restricted-extras20:01
gabraffok20:01
gabraffstill the same: the people in the youtube video are blue. didn't work.20:05
BluesKajgabraff, give us the url20:06
gabraffof what?20:06
BluesKajthe video20:06
gabraffhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEfLrfZV_vE&feature=g-all-u20:08
BluesKajok , looks fine here ...maybe a relogin will work , sometimes the codecs don't stick a first ...also the browser has to be closed and opened again for them to link to the proper codecs after a new install like the restricted extras20:12
gabraffstill the same....20:20
BluesKajgabraff, do any other youtube videos show the same problems or is it just that sony game presentation20:22
gabraffeveryone.20:22
hpuxHow can I be sure that i have mounted correctly my NTFS partion?20:41
markus_hpux: why don't you enter the directory and have a look it the files are in there?20:55
hpuxmarkus_: they are there and everythin works fine20:56
markus_hpux: So problem solved?20:56
hpuxmarkus_: my concern is when this partion is shared over the network with samba20:56
hpuxmarkus_: very big I/O operations on the partion cause hangs on the app side20:57
markus_you mean like to make sure its mounted after restart?20:57
hpuxmarkus_: nope it's already in /etc/fstab20:58
hpuxmarkus_: the problem is that when I do big operations, for example load my music libary from this network share, the amarok hangs20:59
hpuxso my wild guess is that i haven't mounted properly the filesystem, because samba is fine20:59
genii-aroundYou probably want some mount options like sync and dirsync so that most write operations happen immediately21:04
genii-around( rather than being buffered)21:04
InspectorCluseaugabraff,  try this -> remove/rename /etc/adobe/mms.cfg  ... worked for me21:04
joe_hi21:07
BluesKajInspectorCluseau, he had the video acceleration the video turned oiff ..fixed it by turning it back on.21:11
BluesKajin the video21:11
InspectorCluseauI tried that but it was blue again on reload of firefox21:12
InspectorCluseauafter renaming the mms.cfg the problem was gone21:13
BluesKajworks fine here , of course I have the libflashplayer.so installed instead of the alternativr-plugin21:14
BluesKajgabraff, I'm using flashplayer 11 on  kubuntu 12.0421:26
BluesKajI monitor the flashplayer releases , to keep up to date21:27
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BluesKajgabraff, look in your package manager for flash , it should show the installed plugin version21:31
gabraffoh, it is the same of yours.21:32
GH0Why do I have certain packages being held back when I am attempting to do apt-get upgrade21:34
GH0he following packages have been kept back:21:34
GH0  deluge deluge-common deluge-gtk linux linux-image linux-image-generic21:34
GH0Specifically those.21:34
BluesKajGH0, because the dependencies aren't ready in some cases , sometimes a dist-upgrade will bring them along21:36
BluesKajBBL21:53

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