| sapiens | hello :) | 00:04 |
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| sapiens | I have a question... | 00:05 |
| sapiens | I'm quite new, so some things may be harder for me to understand :) | 00:06 |
| sapiens | but I want to install flightgear on the beagleboard | 00:07 |
| sapiens | I have an xm, rev c | 00:07 |
| sapiens | I installed ubuntu 11.04 on it | 00:07 |
| sapiens | ubuntu 11.04 r7 minimal armel... | 00:08 |
| infinity | sapiens: That's not an official Ubuntu image. | 00:08 |
| infinity | sapiens: For starters, I'd suggest an official 12.04 image. | 00:09 |
| infinity | Oh, at which point, you'll find out that flightgear doesn't work on ARM... | 00:09 |
| sapiens | infinity, I'd like to, but I need to have the openscenegraph installed | 00:09 |
| sapiens | how come it doesn't work? | 00:10 |
| infinity | Because of the lack of openscenegraph, as you note. | 00:10 |
| sapiens | well... I have it installed on 11.04 | 00:10 |
| sapiens | ;) | 00:10 |
| sapiens | It installed good with the synaptic | 00:11 |
| infinity | Yeah, and flightgear is also in 11.04 | 00:11 |
| infinity | I have no idea if either actually works. | 00:11 |
| sapiens | I can boot it too | 00:11 |
| micahg | hrm, openscenegraph looks like it just needs one of those GL fixes | 00:11 |
| infinity | Oh, I see, it's GL/GLES fallout. | 00:11 |
| sapiens | but when in subsystems... I have a nasal runtime error | 00:11 |
| GrueMaster | sapiens: You would see better performance with 12.04 armhf. | 00:11 |
| infinity | So, yeah, OSG on natty will work, but it won't have any hardware acceleration. | 00:11 |
| infinity | GrueMaster: Yeah, but no openscengraph or flightgear on 12.04, so it's a moot point for him. :P | 00:12 |
| sapiens | :) | 00:12 |
| infinity | It's going to suck anyway. | 00:12 |
| infinity | No hardware acceleration, and I can't imagine it'll be "fast" with software rendering. | 00:13 |
| micahg | hrm, if it's the same issue in precise, it's SRUable :) | 00:13 |
| micahg | and it looks to be that way | 00:13 |
| infinity | micahg: "one of those GL fixes", you say? You say this as if you've done some QTGL->GLES porting. | 00:13 |
| micahg | infinity: no, but I've seen other people's patches :) | 00:13 |
| infinity | micahg: Well, I look forward to seeing yours, then. :) | 00:14 |
| micahg | I keep telling myself one of these days I'll figure them out | 00:14 |
| sapiens | ok, but seriously... I have these nasal runtime errors | 00:15 |
| micahg | I guess at this point in Debian's release cycle there's no chance of GLES on arm for Debian | 00:15 |
| sapiens | how can I fix them :) | 00:15 |
| infinity | sapiens: "nasal runtime errors" means nothing to me. | 00:15 |
| infinity | micahg: Nope. | 00:15 |
| * micahg passes sapiens a tissue | 00:16 | |
| infinity | micahg: And it'll be a bit of an uphill battle to convince people to do it, since our motivation is binary drivers. | 00:16 |
| sapiens | lol | 00:16 |
| infinity | micahg: In Debian, if no one cares about binary drivers, it's just crazy extra work to have one port use GLES. | 00:16 |
| * infinity is still really annoyed that GLES even exists and wasn't just, say, GL1.2 | 00:17 | |
| infinity | Would have been so much simpler if it had been a strict subset (or older version), instead of what it is. :/ | 00:17 |
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| waltermixxx_ | howdy | 01:32 |
| waltermixxx_ | howdy, I just installed the latest 12.04 ubuntu for beagleboard xM and I'm not getting any sound... | 01:45 |
| waltermixxx_ | dummy output is listed in the sound control panel, play sound through.... | 01:46 |
| waltermixxx_ | initrd.img version 3.2.0-24-omap | 01:49 |
| waltermixxx_ | if that helps | 01:49 |
| infinity | waltermixxx_: Probably needs someone to write a ucm profile for it. I don't have an xM. | 01:51 |
| infinity | waltermixxx_: See the profiles in /usr/share/alsa/ucm/ for other boards. | 01:51 |
| waltermixxx_ | ok will check that out | 01:51 |
| infinity | waltermixxx_: And /lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-ucm.rules is where they get loaded. | 01:52 |
| waltermixxx_ | no beagle in there | 01:53 |
| waltermixxx_ | just panda pandaes spd4430 and tegraalc5632 | 01:53 |
| infinity | waltermixxx_: That's sort of my point. | 01:54 |
| waltermixxx_ | i understood that, simply confirming :) | 01:54 |
| waltermixxx_ | should ubuntu be so slow on this board? | 01:55 |
| waltermixxx_ | not slow all the time | 01:55 |
| infinity | Everything should be slow on that board. | 01:55 |
| waltermixxx_ | lol | 01:55 |
| waltermixxx_ | :) | 01:55 |
| infinity | Also, running from SD is awful. | 01:55 |
| waltermixxx_ | yes I saw the swap file on it | 01:55 |
| infinity | If you have a USB hard drive, I *highly* recommend installing to it. | 01:55 |
| infinity | (using a d-i netboot image) | 01:55 |
| waltermixxx_ | just put the boot files on the sd and put the rest on the usb drive | 01:55 |
| infinity | We're dropping the preinstalled images in quantal for this very reason. | 01:55 |
| infinity | It's an awful user experience. | 01:56 |
| waltermixxx_ | i understand. | 01:56 |
| waltermixxx_ | so sound isn't happening any time soon? | 01:56 |
| waltermixxx_ | i suspect I don't need sound | 01:56 |
| infinity | You could probably make sound go yourself with minimal effort. And if you do, I'd happily integrate the patch in Ubuntu. | 01:56 |
| waltermixxx_ | not sure I need a gui at this point... but it's nice to have another working sd image :) | 01:56 |
| infinity | But I have no xM of my own to fiddle with, so.. | 01:57 |
| infinity | Not much I can do. | 01:57 |
| waltermixxx_ | i appreciate the advice... | 01:57 |
| infinity | If you don't need a GUI, start with a server image, you'll be much happier with the speed. | 01:57 |
| infinity | Our default GUI environment kinda eats all your RAM. | 01:57 |
| waltermixxx_ | :) | 01:57 |
| waltermixxx_ | i think that is a good idea | 01:57 |
| waltermixxx_ | the server images available where I got the desktop image.... | 01:57 |
| waltermixxx_ | ? | 01:58 |
| waltermixxx_ | that was a question :) | 01:58 |
| waltermixxx_ | and the ones listed there, they don't have a gui? | 01:58 |
| waltermixxx_ | Ideally I just want a basic web server, and something to mess with gpio's | 01:58 |
| waltermixxx_ | i have a Trainer xM for beagle board | 01:59 |
| waltermixxx_ | hoping to light up some leds | 01:59 |
| waltermixxx_ | :) | 01:59 |
| waltermixxx_ | (people get so excited about that... me included...) | 01:59 |
| waltermixxx_ | starts there and then a dog treat dispencer.... | 01:59 |
| waltermixxx_ | with a web interface :) | 01:59 |
| waltermixxx_ | does the server image on the site come with apache? | 02:00 |
| waltermixxx_ | and python? | 02:00 |
| waltermixxx_ | or would I simply do a get-apt install apache | 02:00 |
| waltermixxx_ | kinda thing... | 02:00 |
| waltermixxx_ | you may be able to tell, I'm a linux nubee | 02:00 |
| waltermixxx_ | :) | 02:00 |
| waltermixxx_ | is it easy to take the sd card that I currently have and move the linux install onto a usb hard drive? | 02:03 |
| infinity | waltermixxx_: Oh, sorry. Got distracted. | 02:03 |
| waltermixxx_ | np | 02:03 |
| waltermixxx_ | :) | 02:03 |
| infinity | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-server-armhf+omap.img.gz | 02:03 |
| waltermixxx_ | awesome... | 02:03 |
| infinity | Alternately, if you have an external HDD (do you?), you should try a netboot image. | 02:03 |
| waltermixxx_ | i think i saw some instructions on that | 02:04 |
| infinity | Not much to instruct. | 02:04 |
| infinity | http://mirrors.0c3.net/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/20101020ubuntu136/images/omap/netboot/ | 02:04 |
| infinity | Grab either boot.img-fb.gz or boot.img-serial.gz (depending on if you're using a keyboard and monitor, or a serial console), zcat the image to an SD card, and boot. | 02:05 |
| infinity | It'll install the OS to your hard drive, and the kernel and bootloader to the SD. | 02:05 |
| waltermixxx_ | wicked | 02:05 |
| infinity | As for what's included in a barebones server install, the answer is "not much", but the whole archive is available to you. | 02:05 |
| infinity | So, "apt-get install apache2", etc. | 02:06 |
| waltermixxx_ | keyboard and monitor | 02:06 |
| waltermixxx_ | so boot.img-fb.gz | 02:06 |
| infinity | Right. | 02:06 |
| waltermixxx_ | http://mirrors.0c3.net/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/20101020ubuntu136/images/omap/netboot/ does not want to open... | 02:08 |
| infinity | Oh, hahahaha. | 02:08 |
| infinity | That would have worked better if it wasn't my local mirror. | 02:08 |
| infinity | s/mirrors.0c3.net/ports.ubuntu.com/ | 02:08 |
| infinity | http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/20101020ubuntu136/images/omap/netboot/ | 02:09 |
| waltermixxx_ | thank you... that works | 02:09 |
| infinity | I really should punch a hole for that mirror from the outside, since I make that mistake so often. :P | 02:09 |
| waltermixxx_ | np :) | 02:09 |
| waltermixxx_ | i appreciate the correction | 02:09 |
| waltermixxx_ | the uncompressed boot.img-fb file | 02:11 |
| waltermixxx_ | i zcat that to the sd card | 02:12 |
| infinity | Well, the compressed one. | 02:12 |
| waltermixxx_ | oh no need to uncompress it, that's right | 02:12 |
| infinity | zcat boot.img-fb.gz > /dev/sdX | 02:12 |
| waltermixxx_ | :) | 02:12 |
| infinity | Whatever X is your card reader. | 02:12 |
| waltermixxx_ | mmcblk0 | 02:12 |
| waltermixxx_ | :) | 02:12 |
| infinity | Or that. :) | 02:12 |
| waltermixxx_ | once I boot from it, will it give me the choice of what I want to install on the external drive? | 02:13 |
| waltermixxx_ | server or desktop? | 02:13 |
| waltermixxx_ | gonna try it now. | 02:14 |
| infinity | It'll just be serverish, IIRC. | 02:14 |
| infinity | You could preseed it to do desktop (or install ubuntu-desktop later), but since that's what we're trying to avoid... ;) | 02:15 |
| waltermixxx_ | server I think is what I am after :) and a slim line server sounds good | 02:16 |
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| waltermixxx_ | i took some notes on the above, and will give it a shot when I find an external hd that is powered by external power adapter and not via usb | 02:22 |
| waltermixxx_ | hmmm | 02:22 |
| waltermixxx_ | I may try it first on an 8 gig usb stick | 02:22 |
| waltermixxx_ | that should work... for testing... | 02:22 |
| waltermixxx_ | boot from sd, and install on 8 gig usb stick? | 02:22 |
| infinity | waltermixxx_: Yeahp, that works. | 02:25 |
| infinity | waltermixxx_: That's how I test the installer when I don't have a spare hard drive to kill. | 02:25 |
| infinity | waltermixxx_: It's obviously not going to be fast, though still a bit better than SD, in most cases. | 02:25 |
| waltermixxx_ | ok cool | 02:27 |
| waltermixxx_ | thanks again for your assistance :) | 02:27 |
| codinho | Hi guys | 03:48 |
| codinho | is gstreamer works with ducati in 12.04 ? | 03:48 |
| twb | Your car is running ubuntu? | 03:50 |
| twb | Er, motorcycle | 03:51 |
| codinho | twb I mean omap4 ducati | 03:53 |
| twb | Never heard of it | 03:53 |
| twb | But AFAIK Ubuntu works well on omap4 generally | 03:53 |
| codinho | Ducati is hardware accelerator for image processing and video/audio decode/encode | 03:54 |
| twb | Oh. Well I don't know, sorry :-) | 03:55 |
| heathkid | anyone here runnning ubuntu on an ARM with a USB wifi adapter that works 100%? | 03:55 |
| twb | heathkid: define "100% | 03:55 |
| heathkid | as in it actually works and is reliable | 03:55 |
| heathkid | doesn't work for a few hours or a day and then stop working... | 03:56 |
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| codinho | is it possible to install ubuntu-omap-extras-multimedia from trunk ppa on 12.04? | 06:05 |
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| ppisati | if anyone has an idle panda board and an empy sd card, could you try to reproduce lp1013204? thanks | 14:46 |
| ppisati | bug 1013204 | 14:46 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1013204 in linux-ti-omap4 "Serial losing characters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013204 | 14:46 |
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| mythos | ppisati, erm, so you loose chars over a serial-console | 14:51 |
| mythos | which char is missing? | 14:51 |
| mythos | i mean, in your bugreport | 14:52 |
| mythos | and you know, that with the default settings (http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/Serial_Port_Settings) it's not unusual, that bits are not transfered right? | 14:54 |
| ppisati | any kind of characters | 14:57 |
| ppisati | just type and you'll see that some won't get through | 14:58 |
| ppisati | some times it works, some times it won't | 14:58 |
| ppisati | on armel | 14:58 |
| ppisati | on armhf everyhing is ok | 14:58 |
| mythos | maybe they use another baudrate? | 14:59 |
| ppisati | identical | 14:59 |
| ppisati | 115200n8 | 15:00 |
| mythos | so... which ubuntu should i use? | 15:00 |
| mythos | 11.10? | 15:00 |
| mythos | oh, i see 12.04 armel | 15:01 |
| mythos | i'm going to try it later | 15:02 |
| ppisati | the simplest way to reproduce it | 15:02 |
| ppisati | get the O omap4 preinstall | 15:02 |
| ppisati | once you finished with the installation, let it reboot till the serial console | 15:02 |
| ppisati | then paste a long line of text and see what happens | 15:02 |
| mythos | i'm going to try it in an hour or so | 15:03 |
| mythos | but first i have to go home ;) | 15:08 |
| ppisati | mythos: i updated the bug with a comment about reproducing the problem | 15:10 |
| ogra_ | and make sure the insulation of your cable has no cracks, might be that the chars are dripping out through it :P | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | what a weird bug :) | 15:12 |
| ppisati | yes it is | 15:12 |
| ppisati | i swapped hw | 15:12 |
| ppisati | cables | 15:12 |
| ppisati | sd cards | 15:12 |
| ppisati | distributions | 15:13 |
| ppisati | kernels | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | serial terminal app ? | 15:13 |
| ppisati | now i want someone else to reproduce it | 15:13 |
| ppisati | nope | 15:13 |
| ppisati | i'm using cu | 15:13 |
| ppisati | well | 15:13 |
| ppisati | it works with my amrhf installation | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | well, did you try screen or minicom ? | 15:13 |
| ppisati | so should work with armel | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | oh, ok | 15:13 |
| ppisati | nope | 15:13 |
| ogra_ | well, who cares ... its armel :P | 15:13 |
| ppisati | :) | 15:14 |
| ppisati | ogra_: if you can devote and sd card to the cause, i would love it | 15:15 |
| ppisati | i want someone else to say "yes, i've it too" | 15:15 |
| ppisati | my bad | 18:37 |
| ppisati | the sd that i used was actually a preinstalled system were i used to mess on | 18:38 |
| ppisati | :P | 18:38 |
| ppisati | mythos: ^ | 18:38 |
| ppisati | ogra_: ^ | 18:38 |
| mythos | ppisati, so i don't have to? :O | 18:38 |
| ppisati | nope | 18:39 |
| ppisati | forget about it | 18:39 |
| mythos | hurray \o/ | 18:39 |
| * ppisati feels really stupid now | 18:39 | |
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