[00:04] hello :) [00:05] I have a question... [00:06] I'm quite new, so some things may be harder for me to understand :) [00:07] but I want to install flightgear on the beagleboard [00:07] I have an xm, rev c [00:07] I installed ubuntu 11.04 on it [00:08] ubuntu 11.04 r7 minimal armel... [00:08] sapiens: That's not an official Ubuntu image. [00:09] sapiens: For starters, I'd suggest an official 12.04 image. [00:09] Oh, at which point, you'll find out that flightgear doesn't work on ARM... [00:09] infinity, I'd like to, but I need to have the openscenegraph installed [00:10] how come it doesn't work? [00:10] Because of the lack of openscenegraph, as you note. [00:10] well... I have it installed on 11.04 [00:10] ;) [00:11] It installed good with the synaptic [00:11] Yeah, and flightgear is also in 11.04 [00:11] I have no idea if either actually works. [00:11] I can boot it too [00:11] hrm, openscenegraph looks like it just needs one of those GL fixes [00:11] Oh, I see, it's GL/GLES fallout. [00:11] but when in subsystems... I have a nasal runtime error [00:11] sapiens: You would see better performance with 12.04 armhf. [00:11] So, yeah, OSG on natty will work, but it won't have any hardware acceleration. [00:12] GrueMaster: Yeah, but no openscengraph or flightgear on 12.04, so it's a moot point for him. :P [00:12] :) [00:12] It's going to suck anyway. [00:13] No hardware acceleration, and I can't imagine it'll be "fast" with software rendering. [00:13] hrm, if it's the same issue in precise, it's SRUable :) [00:13] and it looks to be that way [00:13] micahg: "one of those GL fixes", you say? You say this as if you've done some QTGL->GLES porting. [00:13] infinity: no, but I've seen other people's patches :) [00:14] micahg: Well, I look forward to seeing yours, then. :) [00:14] I keep telling myself one of these days I'll figure them out [00:15] ok, but seriously... I have these nasal runtime errors [00:15] I guess at this point in Debian's release cycle there's no chance of GLES on arm for Debian [00:15] how can I fix them :) [00:15] sapiens: "nasal runtime errors" means nothing to me. [00:15] micahg: Nope. [00:16] * micahg passes sapiens a tissue [00:16] micahg: And it'll be a bit of an uphill battle to convince people to do it, since our motivation is binary drivers. [00:16] lol [00:16] micahg: In Debian, if no one cares about binary drivers, it's just crazy extra work to have one port use GLES. [00:17] * infinity is still really annoyed that GLES even exists and wasn't just, say, GL1.2 [00:17] Would have been so much simpler if it had been a strict subset (or older version), instead of what it is. :/ === shirgall is now known as Guest81642 === trelane is now known as trelane_ === trelane_ is now known as KC9NVQ === KC9NVQ is now known as trelane === trelane is now known as chrishansen === chrishansen is now known as winterborn === winterborn is now known as trelane` === trelane` is now known as trelane [01:32] howdy [01:45] howdy, I just installed the latest 12.04 ubuntu for beagleboard xM and I'm not getting any sound... [01:46] dummy output is listed in the sound control panel, play sound through.... [01:49] initrd.img version 3.2.0-24-omap [01:49] if that helps [01:51] waltermixxx_: Probably needs someone to write a ucm profile for it. I don't have an xM. [01:51] waltermixxx_: See the profiles in /usr/share/alsa/ucm/ for other boards. [01:51] ok will check that out [01:52] waltermixxx_: And /lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-ucm.rules is where they get loaded. [01:53] no beagle in there [01:53] just panda pandaes spd4430 and tegraalc5632 [01:54] waltermixxx_: That's sort of my point. [01:54] i understood that, simply confirming :) [01:55] should ubuntu be so slow on this board? [01:55] not slow all the time [01:55] Everything should be slow on that board. [01:55] lol [01:55] :) [01:55] Also, running from SD is awful. [01:55] yes I saw the swap file on it [01:55] If you have a USB hard drive, I *highly* recommend installing to it. [01:55] (using a d-i netboot image) [01:55] just put the boot files on the sd and put the rest on the usb drive [01:55] We're dropping the preinstalled images in quantal for this very reason. [01:56] It's an awful user experience. [01:56] i understand. [01:56] so sound isn't happening any time soon? [01:56] i suspect I don't need sound [01:56] You could probably make sound go yourself with minimal effort. And if you do, I'd happily integrate the patch in Ubuntu. [01:56] not sure I need a gui at this point... but it's nice to have another working sd image :) [01:57] But I have no xM of my own to fiddle with, so.. [01:57] Not much I can do. [01:57] i appreciate the advice... [01:57] If you don't need a GUI, start with a server image, you'll be much happier with the speed. [01:57] Our default GUI environment kinda eats all your RAM. [01:57] :) [01:57] i think that is a good idea [01:57] the server images available where I got the desktop image.... [01:58] ? [01:58] that was a question :) [01:58] and the ones listed there, they don't have a gui? [01:58] Ideally I just want a basic web server, and something to mess with gpio's [01:59] i have a Trainer xM for beagle board [01:59] hoping to light up some leds [01:59] :) [01:59] (people get so excited about that... me included...) [01:59] starts there and then a dog treat dispencer.... [01:59] with a web interface :) [02:00] does the server image on the site come with apache? [02:00] and python? [02:00] or would I simply do a get-apt install apache [02:00] kinda thing... [02:00] you may be able to tell, I'm a linux nubee [02:00] :) [02:03] is it easy to take the sd card that I currently have and move the linux install onto a usb hard drive? [02:03] waltermixxx_: Oh, sorry. Got distracted. [02:03] np [02:03] :) [02:03] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-server-armhf+omap.img.gz [02:03] awesome... [02:03] Alternately, if you have an external HDD (do you?), you should try a netboot image. [02:04] i think i saw some instructions on that [02:04] Not much to instruct. [02:04] http://mirrors.0c3.net/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/20101020ubuntu136/images/omap/netboot/ [02:05] Grab either boot.img-fb.gz or boot.img-serial.gz (depending on if you're using a keyboard and monitor, or a serial console), zcat the image to an SD card, and boot. [02:05] It'll install the OS to your hard drive, and the kernel and bootloader to the SD. [02:05] wicked [02:05] As for what's included in a barebones server install, the answer is "not much", but the whole archive is available to you. [02:06] So, "apt-get install apache2", etc. [02:06] keyboard and monitor [02:06] so boot.img-fb.gz [02:06] Right. [02:08] http://mirrors.0c3.net/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/20101020ubuntu136/images/omap/netboot/ does not want to open... [02:08] Oh, hahahaha. [02:08] That would have worked better if it wasn't my local mirror. [02:08] s/mirrors.0c3.net/ports.ubuntu.com/ [02:09] http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/20101020ubuntu136/images/omap/netboot/ [02:09] thank you... that works [02:09] I really should punch a hole for that mirror from the outside, since I make that mistake so often. :P [02:09] np :) [02:09] i appreciate the correction [02:11] the uncompressed boot.img-fb file [02:12] i zcat that to the sd card [02:12] Well, the compressed one. [02:12] oh no need to uncompress it, that's right [02:12] zcat boot.img-fb.gz > /dev/sdX [02:12] :) [02:12] Whatever X is your card reader. [02:12] mmcblk0 [02:12] :) [02:12] Or that. :) [02:13] once I boot from it, will it give me the choice of what I want to install on the external drive? [02:13] server or desktop? [02:14] gonna try it now. [02:14] It'll just be serverish, IIRC. [02:15] You could preseed it to do desktop (or install ubuntu-desktop later), but since that's what we're trying to avoid... ;) [02:16] server I think is what I am after :) and a slim line server sounds good === Jack87 is now known as Jack87|Away [02:22] i took some notes on the above, and will give it a shot when I find an external hd that is powered by external power adapter and not via usb [02:22] hmmm [02:22] I may try it first on an 8 gig usb stick [02:22] that should work... for testing... [02:22] boot from sd, and install on 8 gig usb stick? [02:25] waltermixxx_: Yeahp, that works. [02:25] waltermixxx_: That's how I test the installer when I don't have a spare hard drive to kill. [02:25] waltermixxx_: It's obviously not going to be fast, though still a bit better than SD, in most cases. [02:27] ok cool [02:27] thanks again for your assistance :) [03:48] Hi guys [03:48] is gstreamer works with ducati in 12.04 ? [03:50] Your car is running ubuntu? [03:51] Er, motorcycle [03:53] twb I mean omap4 ducati [03:53] Never heard of it [03:53] But AFAIK Ubuntu works well on omap4 generally [03:54] Ducati is hardware accelerator for image processing and video/audio decode/encode [03:55] Oh. Well I don't know, sorry :-) [03:55] anyone here runnning ubuntu on an ARM with a USB wifi adapter that works 100%? [03:55] heathkid: define "100% [03:55] as in it actually works and is reliable [03:56] doesn't work for a few hours or a day and then stop working... === heathkid|2 is now known as heathkid [06:05] is it possible to install ubuntu-omap-extras-multimedia from trunk ppa on 12.04? === mythos_ is now known as mythos === zyga is now known as zyga-afk [14:46] if anyone has an idle panda board and an empy sd card, could you try to reproduce lp1013204? thanks [14:46] bug 1013204 [14:46] Launchpad bug 1013204 in linux-ti-omap4 "Serial losing characters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013204 === zyga-afk is now known as zyga [14:51] ppisati, erm, so you loose chars over a serial-console [14:51] which char is missing? [14:52] i mean, in your bugreport [14:54] and you know, that with the default settings (http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/Serial_Port_Settings) it's not unusual, that bits are not transfered right? [14:57] any kind of characters [14:58] just type and you'll see that some won't get through [14:58] some times it works, some times it won't [14:58] on armel [14:58] on armhf everyhing is ok [14:59] maybe they use another baudrate? [14:59] identical [15:00] 115200n8 [15:00] so... which ubuntu should i use? [15:00] 11.10? [15:01] oh, i see 12.04 armel [15:02] i'm going to try it later [15:02] the simplest way to reproduce it [15:02] get the O omap4 preinstall [15:02] once you finished with the installation, let it reboot till the serial console [15:02] then paste a long line of text and see what happens [15:03] i'm going to try it in an hour or so [15:08] but first i have to go home ;) [15:10] mythos: i updated the bug with a comment about reproducing the problem [15:12] and make sure the insulation of your cable has no cracks, might be that the chars are dripping out through it :P [15:12] what a weird bug :) [15:12] yes it is [15:12] i swapped hw [15:12] cables [15:12] sd cards [15:13] distributions [15:13] kernels [15:13] serial terminal app ? [15:13] now i want someone else to reproduce it [15:13] nope [15:13] i'm using cu [15:13] well [15:13] it works with my amrhf installation [15:13] well, did you try screen or minicom ? [15:13] so should work with armel [15:13] oh, ok [15:13] nope [15:13] well, who cares ... its armel :P [15:14] :) [15:15] ogra_: if you can devote and sd card to the cause, i would love it [15:15] i want someone else to say "yes, i've it too" [18:37] my bad [18:38] the sd that i used was actually a preinstalled system were i used to mess on [18:38] :P [18:38] mythos: ^ [18:38] ogra_: ^ [18:38] ppisati, so i don't have to? :O [18:39] nope [18:39] forget about it [18:39] hurray \o/ [18:39] * ppisati feels really stupid now