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AmberJErr... http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ says "Not found"!01:44
AmberJIn fact, links/articles under "Knowledge Base" section on that^ page were also giving a UbuntuWiki 404 error ~10 minutes ago...01:46
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ajmitchmicahg: there's a MOTU meeting in ~12 hours, right?03:31
micahgajmitch: I guess so :)03:32
ajmitchlooks like one of the outstanding items from last time was decide on a time & a meeting chair on the mailing list :)03:33
micahghrm, I still need to write the expiration policy03:36
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tumbleweedajmitch: advance apologies, I'm mostly-offline, sailing06:15
dholbachgood morning06:53
ajmitchmorning dholbach06:55
dholbachhey ajmitch06:55
ajmitchdholbach: so we were just discussing before, is there a MOTU meeting this week? :)06:56
dholbachah yes06:57
dholbachit should be today06:57
dholbachwhy do I have to do all these announcements and everything? :)06:57
ajmitchsorry, I didn't want to announce it before it could be confirmed06:58
ajmitch& you did take the action item last time ;)06:58
dholbachno no - I was just kidding06:58
dholbachthe discussion about alternate meeting times didn't go anywhere, did it?06:58
* ajmitch doesn't recall06:58
ajmitchI doubt I'll be at the meeting though :)06:59
dholbachthat's only reasonable :)06:59
dholbachah yes, nobody replied to the question06:59
ajmitchsorry about that, I should have spoken up & suggested a time that suited me07:00
ajmitchwith no opposition, I'd be fine every meeting :)07:00
dholbachI'm happy for us to change the meeting times07:00
dholbachI just don't know where to07:00
dholbachbut for today I reckon we shouldn't change the time :)07:01
ajmitchrotating times only works if there are enough people in each time slot07:02
dholbachI'm sure that UTC morning works for some parts of Asia/Oceania and Europe, so I wouldn't mind trying it out07:03
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gesergood morning dholbach, good evening ajmitch07:16
ajmitchhi geser07:16
geseris there something at the agenda for the MOTU meeting at all?07:16
ajmitchshow up & talk about stuff?07:16
dholbachhey geser07:19
dholbachI'd like to talk about the next bug fixing initiative07:19
dholbachwe had quite a number of bugs fixed in the last one and it might be good to prepare this one07:19
* micahg had an idea for one of those, but forgot what that was07:20
dholbachajmitch, maybe you can reply on the "meeting times" thread? :)07:47
LaneyYAY STUFF09:11
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AmberJREPOST: Err... http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ says "Not found"!12:31
AmberJIn fact, links/articles under "Knowledge Base" section on that^ page were also giving a UbuntuWiki 404 error12:31
AmberJIs it just me who is seeing those^ 404 errors on Ubuntu Packaging wiki page12:32
tumbleweeddpm: ^12:54
dpmthanks tumbleweed, looking...13:00
dpmdholbach, the packaging guide seems to have died ^13:00
dpmlooking at the logs to see if I can see anything13:00
dholbachhum13:00
dholbachthanks13:00
dholbachlet me know if I can help any13:01
dholbach...or if you guys broke something in the WP setup :-P13:01
dpmthe packaging/ folder that contains the docs seems empty13:02
dpmlet me try to run the script13:02
dholbachdon't forget the environment variables :)13:02
dpm:)13:03
dpmdholbach, could this point to missing files in the natty packaging guide package? -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1040718/13:05
dholbachit could - let me try to reproduce locally13:05
dpmok. I need to run for lunch now, but I can look at the backlog every now and then13:06
dholbachthanks dpm13:06
dholbachdpm, I fixed the script13:21
dholbachdpm, there is still some breakage with singlehtml, but that needs to be fixed in the guide itself and I think asomething was on it13:22
dholbachdpm, if you pull and run again, html, epub and pdf should be happy again13:29
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dpmdholbach, tumbleweed, AmberJ, ok, the packaging guide has been brought back to life ;)13:44
dpmhttp://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/13:44
AmberJ_Thanks!13:47
dholbachthanks dpm14:17
paultagis andreserl here?14:44
dholbachpaultag, meet roaksoax14:44
paultagdholbach: thanks buddy :)14:44
dholbachde nada14:44
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paultagroaksoax: just got your mail to pkg-javascript -- since the same policy also governs node apps, etc, how were you thinking about covering that? Branch node / javascript (web) policy? I'm actually wondering :)14:46
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paultagroaksoax: I like your idea a lot, and I've been thinking of something similar, but I've never really suggested anything.14:47
paultagunless node apps had their own node home with symbolic links to the correct versions, and somehow overload node.js to preset the node path14:48
paultagthat'd be pretty cool. but anyway, food for thought.14:48
roaksoaxpaultag: can we swtich this conversation to #maas?14:52
roaksoaxpaultag: as actually shipping versions came from there14:52
paultagroaksoax: gladly14:53
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bregmaI have a package in Debian unstable that was removed from Ubuntu a few releases ago, so it doesn't get autosynced...  what do I need to do to get it back into Ubuntu?15:08
ScottKbregma: What package?15:18
bregmaember, and ember-media15:18
ScottKbregma: I'm looking into it.15:25
bregmathanks15:25
ScottKbregma: I've removed it from the sync blacklist, so the next time we sync new packages it should come in (that's not done every day).15:27
bregmaexcellent, thank you15:30
dholbachMOTU Meeting in 3m?15:57
dholbachwe're in #ubuntu-meeting16:02
YokoZarmhall119: ping17:31
mhall119YokoZar: hey there, I was told you might be able to help answer questions about packaging Windows apps with wine17:35
mhall119I'm looking for someone who can be a mentor/point of contact for somebody writing a pkgme backend for windows apps17:36
YokoZarmhall119: Right, that's exactly me.  Hell I might even do it for you.17:38
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ajmitchdarn, I missed the MOTU meeting20:04
highvoltageeek, me too20:32
LaneyBAD20:35
* micahg wonders what Laney doesn't like20:37
micahgajmitch: we're welcoming kubuntu into the universe20:37
Laneyslack ajmitch and highvoltage :P20:37
ajmitchLaney: I'm sorry, I'll do penance20:40
iulianHehe.20:44
ScottKIf Laney's angry about slacking ajmitch, he'll need to get used to it ...20:46
* micahg thinks that comment needs an asterisk20:47
ScottKHey, ever since we ditched boost on xnox, he's had it easy.20:48
ScottK;-)20:48
ScottK(better)20:48
ajmitchpeople are harsh here, I think I'm going outside20:48
* micahg hugs ajmitch20:50
ScottKajmitch: JFTR, I've had it easy since we ditched boost on xnox too.20:51
ScottKNow there's a nice version number: http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/p/pycryptopp/pycryptopp-0.6.0.1206569328141510525648634803928199668821045408958.tar.gz20:52
micahgthat's probably close to the limit20:52
micahg(for packages at least)20:53
directhexis that... a decimal version of a git commitid?21:06
ajmitchmicahg: fwiw I had been looking at asterisk & trying to see if it could just be a straight sync, made a bit more difficult by some of the changes carried forward not having explanations in the changelog21:26
micahgajmitch: I was just implying that you do take care of things in a pinch ;)21:27
ajmitch:P21:27
* ajmitch wants to drop the armhf patch & see if it builds, since it's not required in debian21:27
micahgsorry, thought that was a better title than slacker21:27
micahgajmitch: depends what it fixes, Debian's arm* builds behave slightly different (and are only on gcc-4.6 ATM)21:28
ajmitch-     linux-gnueabi)21:29
ajmitch+     linux-gnueabi*)21:29
ajmitchthat's the entirety of the patch now21:29
micahgerr, not behave, but don't have the same quirks due to various stack differences21:29
micahghrm, not sure21:29
ajmitchprevious merge removed some parts of that patch that looked to be done upstream21:30
* ajmitch needs that armhf setup at home21:31
micahgajmitch: are you not a DD?21:31
ajmitchyes, but you said that there are toolchain differences21:31
ajmitchso testing on debian (where we know it works) isn't useful21:31
micahgah, (pbuilder-dist in a home dir on a Debian machine?) :D21:32
ajmitch& I've got an ARM tablet sitting beside me that I need to get ubuntu working on :)21:32
* ajmitch could just get Laney to do it21:33
Laneysadly not21:33
ajmitchyou're no fun21:33
Laneywould if I could :(21:33
Laneyask in #-arm21:33
* ajmitch will have to leave anything involved until tonight21:34
ScottKmicahg: Debian/Ubuntu armhf are much more similar than armel.23:15
micahgScottK: hrm, yes, just slightly, Debian still has no GLES and is using gcc-4.623:19

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