| tumbleweed | inetpro: sailing | 06:13 |
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| Kilos | cremora minora | 06:21 |
| sflr | morning! | 06:28 |
| Kilos | hiya sflr | 06:28 |
| Kilos | busy trying to get a ubuntu-za account on twitter | 06:29 |
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| === Smilyborg is now known as SmilyBorg | ||
| sflr | Hey Kilos , busy bee bright and early :) | 06:31 |
| Kilos | hehe stupid thing wants another mail addy | 06:31 |
| Kilos | yo smiley | 06:32 |
| Kilos | oh my | 06:32 |
| sflr | hmm.. maybe a gmail addy? or ubuntu.com? not sure what is legally allowed | 06:32 |
| Kilos | yo SmilyBorg | 06:32 |
| SmilyBorg | Hi all | 06:32 |
| Kilos | it says mine is already registered | 06:32 |
| Kilos | grrr | 06:33 |
| sflr | hi SmilyBorg | 06:34 |
| Kilos | hi Hodgestar | 06:47 |
| Kilos | mornin charlvn | 06:48 |
| charlvn | morning | 06:48 |
| charlvn | hi Kilos | 06:48 |
| Kilos | hi superfly need some info on legallities on opening a ubuntu-za gmail addy please | 06:54 |
| Kilos | and the date of birth of ubuntu | 06:54 |
| superfly | Kilos: what do you mean? | 06:55 |
| Kilos | i wanna open a ubuntu-za account on twitter but need a mail addy as mine is already registered now i dunno if i can legally open a mail addy in ubuntu-za's name | 06:56 |
| Kilos | so thought i would open a ubuntu-za@gmail.com too | 06:57 |
| superfly | Kilos: well, there's nothing stopping you | 06:58 |
| Kilos | oh you guys wont sue me | 06:58 |
| Kilos | hehe | 06:58 |
| superfly | Kilos: I don't see any legal problems with it either | 06:58 |
| Kilos | then i just need ubuntu's birthdate | 06:59 |
| Kilos | hope mark doesnt mind | 07:00 |
| sflr | Something you can remember easily :) 1 Jan 1980 | 07:01 |
| Kilos | hehe i forget my own | 07:01 |
| sflr | Ubuntu birthday: 20 October 2004 . | 07:04 |
| Banlam | ubuntu's older than that surely | 07:04 |
| Kilos | na | 07:04 |
| Banlam | just check a wiki article | 07:04 |
| sflr | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system) | 07:05 |
| Banlam | initial release | 07:05 |
| Banlam | i see | 07:05 |
| sflr | I got it from there :) | 07:07 |
| Kilos | eish someone already has ubuntu.za and ubuntuza usernames | 07:11 |
| Kilos | grrr | 07:11 |
| sflr | Are you sure? It says "No people results for ubuntuza." | 07:12 |
| Kilos | gmail tells me that | 07:12 |
| sflr | oh gmail. sorry. I was checking twitter | 07:13 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:13 |
| sflr | ubuntuza-loco@, ubuntuza-official@, ubuntusouthafrica@ | 07:14 |
| sflr | some ideas | 07:14 |
| Kilos | ty busy trying them all | 07:15 |
| sflr | we wouldnt use it for coummunication, we have the mailing list. so it doesnt really matter(?) | 07:15 |
| Kilos | yes thats right | 07:16 |
| Kilos | this brings back memories on how i battled to get my gmail account | 07:16 |
| Kilos | looks like just about everything with ubuntu is used already | 07:21 |
| * Kilos tries ubuntoooo | 07:21 | |
| Kilos | eish | 07:23 |
| Kilos | hate gmail | 07:23 |
| Banlam | the email address doesn't matter atll if you're not goign to be using | 07:24 |
| Banlam | it | 07:24 |
| Banlam | if it's just for twitter | 07:24 |
| Banlam | you can just use dfgg234534q@gmail.com | 07:24 |
| Kilos | yay will try exactly that | 07:25 |
| Banlam | :) | 07:25 |
| * Banlam quickly creates account before kilos | 07:25 | |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:26 |
| Kilos | and i struggle to see them images | 07:26 |
| Kilos | and everytime you go forward there is another one | 07:27 |
| Kilos | grrr | 07:27 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha ha ha | 07:30 |
| Kilos | now it says cant create an account im not old enough | 07:30 |
| Kilos | rofl | 07:30 |
| Banlam | lool | 07:31 |
| Kilos | oh my got ubuntu-za twitter and it shows im already following lady gaga and some other funny animals | 07:39 |
| Kilos | come on guys tweet to ubuntu-za so i can find peeps to follow | 07:44 |
| sflr | haha, funny animals like lady gaga? lol | 07:55 |
| Kilos | whew what a job | 07:55 |
| charlvn | with gmail, you can add a + at the end of the address | 08:01 |
| charlvn | for example, if my address is charlvn@gmail.com, i could make up addresses like charlvn+twitter@gmail.com | 08:01 |
| charlvn | i will get all the mail routed to my mail account but technically they are separate addresses | 08:02 |
| charlvn | so you can register multiple twitter accounts for example | 08:02 |
| charlvn | but then because it's a valid mail account, i can confirm the registration (afaik that's necessary for twitter) and do password recovery | 08:02 |
| Kilos | oh ty charlvn | 08:02 |
| charlvn | np Kilos | 08:03 |
| charlvn | there is one thing to keep in mind with this technique though - some email validation scripts don't see a mail address containing a + as a valid address | 08:04 |
| charlvn | it is of course perfectly valid, but some scripts weren't written with the standards in mind | 08:05 |
| charlvn | usually just a bad regular expression | 08:05 |
| Kilos | i think i will try keep the ubuntu-za twitter apart from other stuff for now | 08:05 |
| Kilos | who is gonna write a little bio for ubuntu-za to place in the twitter account | 08:07 |
| charlvn | i guess a simple description like "South African Ubuntu User Community" is sufficient? | 08:07 |
| charlvn | what exactly are you planning to do with the twitter account? use it for communication, announcements, etc? | 08:08 |
| Kilos | this was sflr and inetpro 's idea | 08:08 |
| inetpro | hmm.... | 08:09 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 08:09 |
| Kilos | i will monitor it and inform where possible | 08:09 |
| charlvn | ah ok, i missed out on part of the conversation this morning :) | 08:09 |
| Kilos | yo inetpro | 08:09 |
| charlvn | hi inetpro | 08:09 |
| Kilos | inetpro, you can tweet to ubuntu-za | 08:09 |
| * inetpro be follower no1 | 08:09 | |
| inetpro | https://twitter.com/#!/ubuntuza/followers | 08:10 |
| inetpro | charlvn: no worries, I think I also missed it | 08:11 |
| charlvn | lol | 08:11 |
| Kilos | lol this started day before yesterday not this morning | 08:11 |
| charlvn | ah ok, yeah i totally missed it, been busy | 08:11 |
| inetpro | not sure where I suggested that we have our own twitter channel but it sounds like a cool idea | 08:11 |
| Kilos | sigh | 08:13 |
| inetpro | Kilos: nou wat nou? | 08:14 |
| Kilos | hehe you getting older than me | 08:15 |
| Kilos | you and sflr started the whole thing | 08:15 |
| Kilos | i even installed ff again | 08:26 |
| charlvn | [6~ | 08:40 |
| charlvn | bah sorry :) | 08:40 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:40 |
| sflr | its working. handle is @ubuntuza, name is ubuntu-za | 09:00 |
| sflr | Kilos, its all your hard work | 09:00 |
| sflr | follower no1. lulz | 09:01 |
| sflr | Kilos, here you can get some related users to follow: https://twitter.com/#!/search/ubuntu | 09:02 |
| Kilos | ty will check them | 09:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you may just want to change that profile image to something with an Ubuntu logo | 09:13 |
| inetpro | back in the days we used to have a logo with a SA flag integrated | 09:13 |
| Kilos | ok i gotta get one somewqhere | 09:13 |
| inetpro | our favicon still has it http://ubuntu-za.org/sites/default/files/LucidLoCo_favicon.ico | 09:15 |
| inetpro | but it's a bit small | 09:16 |
| inetpro | perhaps superfly knows where we can find the original | 09:16 |
| inetpro | ? | 09:16 |
| Kilos | i have just srtolen one from that other site | 09:16 |
| Kilos | stolen too | 09:16 |
| Kilos | also as well | 09:16 |
| Kilos | now gotta try find profile again | 09:17 |
| inetpro | actually the one on launchpad might do it for you | 09:18 |
| inetpro | see: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/7127918/UbuntuLogo-za_small.png | 09:18 |
| Kilos | ok i go get it | 09:18 |
| * inetpro noticed it at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za | 09:19 | |
| Kilos | ya thats a nice one | 09:19 |
| Kilos | ty | 09:19 |
| inetpro | Kilos: wow, you already have 4 followers, now just follow them back | 09:30 |
| Kilos | oh my hi SmilyBorg_w | 09:33 |
| SmilyBorg_w | hey | 09:33 |
| SmilyBorg_w | just lurking while at work | 09:33 |
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| Kilos | hehe | 09:34 |
| Kilos | looks like sflr is lying down | 09:34 |
| Kilos | must be very old | 09:34 |
| sflr | haha, turn your screen :P | 09:35 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha the others are right way up man | 09:35 |
| sflr | there is a whole Ubuntu marketing material pack on the internet. | 09:36 |
| sflr | It's twitter's fault, cant recognize orientation EXIF data. I will change it one day | 09:36 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:37 |
| sflr | I was looking for some sponsorship letters I can use to find sponsors for local freenode server. I didnt find anything, it is mostly marketing material for posters, graphics, cds | 09:37 |
| Kilos | ai | 09:38 |
| sflr | I like the logo. keep it | 09:38 |
| Kilos | will do | 09:38 |
| Kilos | tween us all it might turn out well | 09:38 |
| Kilos | not good for the head though | 09:39 |
| inetpro | Reminder: Next ubuntu-za LoCo monthly IRC meeting on Monday, 18 June at 19:30 SAST. Agenda at: http://t.co/i5BjNieK | 09:58 |
| inetpro | Kilos: please tweet that ^^ when you have time | 09:58 |
| Kilos | will do sir | 09:59 |
| Kilos | whats my username by twitter? | 09:59 |
| Kilos | not ubuntu-za | 09:59 |
| inetpro | Kilos: tweet that on ubuntuza | 09:59 |
| Kilos | im trying to setup gwibber but somewhere username password is unhappy | 10:00 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you mean the one for sharpeys? | 10:00 |
| Kilos | using the fox for twitter has used 25m already this morning | 10:00 |
| Kilos | no ubuntu-za | 10:01 |
| sflr | @sharpeys | 10:01 |
| inetpro | looks like you did it with the "-" | 10:01 |
| inetpro | just ubuntuza | 10:01 |
| Kilos | no not sharpeys | 10:01 |
| Kilos | oh ty | 10:01 |
| sflr | @ubuntuza | 10:01 |
| Kilos | oh must you put the @ in? | 10:04 |
| sflr | no | 10:05 |
| sflr | are you trying to log in? | 10:05 |
| Kilos | yeah gwibber is battling | 10:05 |
| sflr | you can also try to log in with the email address, not username | 10:06 |
| sflr | maybe the password is not correct | 10:06 |
| Kilos | lol just asked for password reset | 10:06 |
| Kilos | what a business | 10:06 |
| Kilos | then it tells me i am already logged in | 10:09 |
| sflr | nothing you cant master =) | 10:09 |
| Kilos | look on another workspace and find a tiny gwibber open | 10:09 |
| Kilos | grrr | 10:09 |
| Kilos | when in doubt use a hammer. bigger the doubt bigger the hammer | 10:11 |
| Kilos | brb | 10:12 |
| Kilos | hahaha sflr you sat up | 10:54 |
| sflr | yes, specially for you. hehe | 11:05 |
| Kilos | hehe ty sir | 11:06 |
| sflr | mweb.co.za down. server ran out of space. hehe http://i49.tinypic.com/2vmamhf.jpg | 11:11 |
| sflr | Running Microsoft. We should pay them a visit =) | 11:11 |
| charlvn | oh no that is hilarious, an asp.net error page | 12:21 |
| SmilyBorg | lol | 12:21 |
| charlvn | they even left debug mode on! oh my | 12:22 |
| charlvn | you would think they would have at least gotten that right | 12:22 |
| zerlgi | ehlo | 12:40 |
| Kilos | yo zeref you well? | 12:41 |
| Kilos | zerlgi, i mean | 12:41 |
| inetpro | who ever uses the ZA forums linked in the topic? | 12:54 |
| * inetpro thinking of cleaning up the topic | 12:54 | |
| inetpro | that mailing list URL is also way to long | 12:55 |
| zerlgi | ta Kilos | 12:55 |
| inetpro | superfly: would be nice if you could just setup a short url like http://ubuntu-za.org/mm | 12:56 |
| charlvn | inetpro: in principle all this info should be on the website in any case so you just need to link to ubuntu-za.org right? | 12:56 |
| charlvn | you could also link to the irc logs, that might be handy | 12:56 |
| inetpro | charlvn: true | 12:56 |
| Banlam | just use bitly links or something | 12:56 |
| inetpro | is everyone ok with bitly links? | 12:57 |
| charlvn | Banlam: it will help but imho the title is bloated in any case | 12:57 |
| charlvn | inetpro: i don't mind, bitly is probably overall the best service for shortening | 12:57 |
| zerlgi | http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/436/detail/ shortened to http://goo.gl/BdP0f | 12:57 |
| inetpro | charlvn: I do think it is worth having frequently changing events but I agree with you, it's way to bloated | 12:58 |
| charlvn | inetpro: yeah i would rather have the links that are fairly static in any case removed and more dynamic announcement-type stuff | 12:59 |
| charlvn | like the meetings etc | 12:59 |
| inetpro | ok, here's my suggestion | 13:02 |
| inetpro | Ubuntu South Africa LoCoTeam http://ubuntu-za.org || Mailing list: http://bit.ly/MCOujZ || Pastebin: paste.ubuntu.com || Next IRC meeting Mon, 18 June @ 19:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/LYp5jY | 13:02 |
| inetpro | still a bit long though | 13:02 |
| inetpro | any other suggestions? | 13:02 |
| charlvn | sounds good, but maybe still include a link to the irc logs? | 13:03 |
| charlvn | that's always handy | 13:03 |
| sflr | can we train Maaz to shorten links automagically? | 13:06 |
| inetpro | charlvn: hmm... the IRC logs URL varies by day http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/06/14/%23ubuntu-za.txt | 13:07 |
| inetpro | or http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/06/14/%23ubuntu-za.html | 13:07 |
| charlvn | sflr: afaik it can use tinyurl | 13:08 |
| charlvn | Maaz: tinyurl shorten http://google.com/ | 13:08 |
| Maaz | charlvn: What? | 13:08 |
| charlvn | Maaz: shorten http://google.com/ | 13:08 |
| Maaz | charlvn: That reduces to: http://is.gd/N05DMr | 13:08 |
| inetpro | New suggestion: Ubuntu South Africa http://ubuntu-za.org || MMList: http://bit.ly/MCOujZ || PBin: http://paste.ubuntu.com || Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com || Next Meeting: Mon, 18 June @ 19:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/LYp5jY | 13:08 |
| charlvn | inetpro: the dutch channel just links to the root of irclogs.ubuntu.com | 13:09 |
| charlvn | yeah exactly | 13:09 |
| sflr | wow, there you have it then :) | 13:09 |
| charlvn | Maaz: botsnack | 13:09 |
| Maaz | Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well | 13:09 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-za to: Ubuntu South Africa http://ubuntu-za.org || MMList: http://bit.ly/MCOujZ || PBin: http://paste.ubuntu.com || Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com || Next Meeting: Mon, 18 June @ 19:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/LYp5jY | ||
| inetpro | ok, better? | 13:10 |
| charlvn | nice | 13:10 |
| sflr | what is pastebin for? | 13:10 |
| charlvn | for pasting stuff ? :) | 13:11 |
| charlvn | if you want to share a script or some log output or anything | 13:11 |
| sflr | is it used so often? | 13:11 |
| sflr | ok. i understand. it is important | 13:11 |
| inetpro | sflr: yep, very often | 13:11 |
| charlvn | not in this channel but it's quite a handy thing ti have | 13:11 |
| inetpro | we have not used it recently, but often yes | 13:12 |
| charlvn | overall on irc it's a necessity | 13:12 |
| Symmetria | wooot | 13:12 |
| Symmetria | I just got me a new camera | 13:12 |
| Symmetria | <3 | 13:12 |
| charlvn | according to me you can just use whatever pastebin implementation you want but some channels have preference for some implementation or the other | 13:12 |
| Symmetria | been waiting a while and tossing around buying one, finally went out, closed my eyes and handed over the credit card lol | 13:12 |
| Banlam | Symmetria, nice, what model? | 13:13 |
| sflr | good for you Symmetria. which camera did you get? | 13:13 |
| charlvn | Symmetria: well it's not like you can claim to not have the money to spend on one right :P | 13:13 |
| Symmetria | hehe, I got the canon 7D | 13:13 |
| sflr | was it your credit card? haha | 13:13 |
| Banlam | :O | 13:13 |
| * Banlam is jealous | 13:13 | |
| Banlam | lenses? | 13:13 |
| Kilos | its handy when one needs to show info when you having probs and dont wanna spam the channel. but slexy.org is faster smoother and dont hang my pc | 13:13 |
| Symmetria | got a 300 zoom, a 35-135 IS standard, and a wide angle | 13:13 |
| charlvn | ah nice, a dslr, good choice | 13:14 |
| Banlam | the 300 zoom, standard 70-300? | 13:14 |
| Symmetria | yeah | 13:14 |
| Banlam | that 35-135 will be handy | 13:14 |
| Symmetria | the 35-135 is the standard travel lense, its a very very nice lense | 13:14 |
| Banlam | i've got a sigma 18-200, it's ncie, slightly heavy | 13:15 |
| Banlam | but convenient | 13:15 |
| Symmetria | but the thing I love about this camera is that it does 8fps 126 frame continuous shooting at 18 megapixel | 13:15 |
| Symmetria | which is REALLY nice is you wanna shoot stuff like lightning etc | 13:15 |
| Banlam | nice | 13:15 |
| inetpro | now we must just make sure we take care that stuffs dropped in the topic doesn't get lost | 13:15 |
| Banlam | although if i was doing lightnign I'd do long exposure | 13:15 |
| inetpro | Forum: http://za.ubuntuforums.org/ | 13:15 |
| inetpro | Join: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za | 13:15 |
| inetpro | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za | 13:15 |
| inetpro | Events: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za/events | 13:15 |
| Symmetria | banlam even with long exposure, its still damn tricky | 13:16 |
| Symmetria | I tried it at length with my old 450D | 13:16 |
| Banlam | for sure | 13:16 |
| Symmetria | without huge success | 13:16 |
| Banlam | i would love to get a shot | 13:16 |
| Banlam | but opportunity doesn't come around very often | 13:16 |
| Symmetria | lol my dad is gonna be rather happy, he gets my 450D :p | 13:16 |
| sflr | Symmetria: looking forward to see some of the pix! | 13:16 |
| Symmetria | and he's wanted a camera forever | 13:16 |
| Banlam | haha | 13:16 |
| Symmetria | sflr lol, me 2, Im waiting for the battery to charge goddammit :) hehe | 13:16 |
| Banlam | i'm still struggling along with my 350d | 13:16 |
| sflr | I have a 10D, still rocking for almost 10 years! | 13:17 |
| Banlam | nice | 13:17 |
| Symmetria | heh i wanted that 1D X | 13:18 |
| Symmetria | but lol @ R62.7k for the body :p | 13:18 |
| sflr | yeah, rather buy a small car :P | 13:18 |
| Banlam | worth is a funny thing | 13:18 |
| Banlam | or value should i say | 13:19 |
| sflr | if you are a professional yes, but as a recreational photographer I really dont need anything expensive | 13:20 |
| sflr | plus paying insurance too :/ | 13:20 |
| sflr | Symmetria: what is the camera body made out of? | 13:20 |
| Banlam | i should actually take my lenses and camera for a service | 13:20 |
| Banlam | they need some tlc | 13:20 |
| Banlam | which icertainly don't give htme | 13:20 |
| charlvn | Kilos: just one bit of feedback over the ubuntuza twitter account - maybe the url in the profile should point to ubuntu-za.org instead of the facebook group? just a thought | 13:22 |
| charlvn | for people that don't use facebook it's handier to have it go to the main site | 13:22 |
| charlvn | and then from there they should also be able to make their way back to both the twitter and the facebook pages | 13:22 |
| Kilos | ah thats an idea ty | 13:22 |
| charlvn | sure thing | 13:23 |
| Kilos | one of you shoulda done the thing | 13:23 |
| charlvn | since we're talking about social networks and stuff, do we have any linkedin groups? | 13:23 |
| charlvn | o | 13:23 |
| charlvn | i'm not a big linkedin proponent but was just wondering | 13:23 |
| Kilos | hehe | 13:23 |
| charlvn | since we are on twitter and facebook now and all | 13:24 |
| Kilos | can one login to twitter from 2 places? | 13:25 |
| charlvn | afaik yes | 13:25 |
| charlvn | but it's been a while since i used it | 13:25 |
| sflr | there are ubuntu loco teams on Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/search-fe/group_search?pplSearchOrigin=GLHD&keywords=ubuntu+loco | 13:25 |
| Banlam | yes you can | 13:25 |
| Banlam | i'm logged in on two computers, celphone and tablet | 13:26 |
| Kilos | lol now it tells me my password has been changed woo hoo | 13:27 |
| Kilos | where do you point it to fb etc? | 13:28 |
| Kilos | in accounts or profile | 13:28 |
| charlvn | if i remember from long ago it was profile | 13:28 |
| Kilos | yeah thats it | 13:29 |
| Kilos | charlvn, is that http://ubuntu-za.org | 13:30 |
| charlvn | Kilos: yup that's right | 13:30 |
| Kilos | ah ty not the https | 13:31 |
| charlvn | just checked but https doesn't seem to work on ubuntu-za.org | 13:31 |
| charlvn | the port is open but it doesn't have a valid certificate and the site is just a holding page | 13:32 |
| charlvn | brb | 13:32 |
| sflr | certificate expired on the 15th last month. issued to soda.clug.org.za | 13:33 |
| inetpro | I don't think we need https on the site | 13:34 |
| Kilos | i gotta kill some tweeters | 13:35 |
| Kilos | noah for one i think | 13:35 |
| Kilos | and vodacom | 13:35 |
| Kilos | should we have it just for followers? | 13:36 |
| inetpro | Kilos: it's your choice | 13:36 |
| Kilos | friends i think is the option | 13:36 |
| sflr | yeah, i dont think https needed | 13:36 |
| inetpro | we don't really see what your followers of @ubuntuza are posting unless they are on our side as well | 13:37 |
| sflr | with a twitter account, we could have a tweetroll on the site now :) | 13:37 |
| inetpro | Kilos: in fact you don't really need to follow to many peeps | 13:38 |
| Kilos | grrr its not my twitter | 13:38 |
| inetpro | but it's a good way to get involved and to see what happens out there | 13:38 |
| Kilos | its ours | 13:38 |
| Kilos | you can have the password too | 13:38 |
| inetpro | Kilos: the more you follow the more bandwidth it will consume for you | 13:39 |
| Kilos | yeah but its for ubuntu followers not guys chatting about beating up a man and mucsic\\ | 13:39 |
| inetpro | so we will have to make plans for Kilos to have enough juice to get him through every month | 13:39 |
| Kilos | music adds | 13:39 |
| sflr | you don't need to follow many people. we would use it for announcements, etc | 13:39 |
| Kilos | have been helped ty inetpro | 13:40 |
| inetpro | Kilos: cool, so far you're doing an excellent job | 13:40 |
| Kilos | some dude inna cape was kind to me | 13:40 |
| Kilos | looks like a young dude too, not a ballie | 13:41 |
| * inetpro lol | 13:41 | |
| sflr | cant we move the events to ubuntu-za.org from loco.ubuntu.com? then we can share just one site | 13:43 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-za to: Ubuntu South Africa http://ubuntu-za.org || MMList: http://bit.ly/MCOujZ || PBin: http://paste.ubuntu.com || Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com || Next Meeting: Mon, 18 June @ 19:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/LYp5jY || Announcements: https://twitter.com/ubuntuza | ||
| inetpro | ok, I just added a little more bloat just for now, while the twitter account is still new | 13:45 |
| Kilos | hehe now i cant find where it said friends only | 13:46 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 13:46 |
| inetpro | sflr: we should probably spend some time improving the site | 13:46 |
| sflr | who could add this to the site? http://drupal.org/project/twitter_profile_widget | 13:46 |
| inetpro | sflr: I think superfly is the man, but he's quite busy | 13:47 |
| sflr | ok. we should put some admin tasks in the Agenda to talk about, like website update. Announce the Twitter account,etc | 13:49 |
| inetpro | sflr: I agree, can you do that please | 13:51 |
| inetpro | I guess we could also get Maaz to link to the twitter account's RSS feed and let it post announcements in here | 13:51 |
| Kilos | you not we | 13:51 |
| Kilos | head thumpin | 13:51 |
| Kilos | julle maak my oud | 13:52 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no worries, we'll pull you through with this thing :-) | 13:52 |
| Kilos | lmga | 13:52 |
| inetpro | I doubt whether we'll have many announcements every day | 13:53 |
| inetpro | anyways, /me has some more work todo | 13:54 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 13:54 |
| sflr | you mean to Maaz to tweet? | 13:54 |
| Kilos | yeah sflr | 13:55 |
| inetpro | sflr: now there's an idea I hadn't thought of | 13:55 |
| Kilos | just tell maaz so and so is <reply> link | 13:55 |
| inetpro | not sure whether that is practical | 13:55 |
| sflr | It should be restricted somehow, not everybody should be allowed to command Maazs to tweet. haha | 13:55 |
| Kilos | he wont tweet | 13:56 |
| inetpro | I thought the other way around | 13:56 |
| sflr | It would save you bandwith Kilos ;) | 13:56 |
| Kilos | inetpro, whats the link to twitters ubuntu-za | 13:56 |
| sflr | what do you mean other way around? | 13:56 |
| Kilos | old maaz does one command at a time im sure he wont tweet | 13:57 |
| sflr | Kilos: what twitter link are you looking for? | 14:02 |
| Kilos | the one you guys would use to get to ubuntu-za | 14:02 |
| inetpro | The bot can monitor the RSS feed for ubuntuza at https://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/608002266.rss | 14:02 |
| sflr | https://twitter.com/#!/ubuntuza | 14:03 |
| Kilos | ty | 14:03 |
| inetpro | when a new items gets added it will post here | 14:03 |
| Kilos | wow | 14:03 |
| Kilos | every tweet inetpro ? | 14:03 |
| Kilos | guys will complain | 14:03 |
| sflr | yes, i understand | 14:03 |
| HawkiesZA | Only if the account is extremely active | 14:04 |
| sflr | sounds good. it wont be channel spamming | 14:04 |
| inetpro | Kilos: all depends on how many posts you put in there | 14:04 |
| Kilos | at the moment its got vodacom and other stuff but i cant find where to make it only show friends or followers | 14:04 |
| sflr | is it only tweet or includes mentions too? | 14:04 |
| Kilos | oh only when i tweet | 14:05 |
| inetpro | yep | 14:05 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 14:05 |
| inetpro | but it's just an idea | 14:05 |
| Kilos | yo HawkiesZA | 14:06 |
| inetpro | and we certainly don't want to abuse the bot | 14:06 |
| inetpro | HawkiesZA: wb | 14:06 |
| HawkiesZA | 'lo Kilos | 14:06 |
| sflr | Kilos: i dont understand. I only see my timeline, tweets from people I follow | 14:06 |
| HawkiesZA | fanks inetpro | 14:06 |
| HawkiesZA | Been an interesting day | 14:06 |
| sflr | hey HawkiesZA! | 14:06 |
| inetpro | HawkiesZA: how so? | 14:06 |
| HawkiesZA | sflr: Where? That guy owes me money! | 14:07 |
| sflr | inetpro: i'm thinking that what we post on twitter first will be discussed and posted here? | 14:07 |
| sflr | what guy? lol | 14:07 |
| HawkiesZA | inetpro: Oh, just busy fixing what I didn't break | 14:08 |
| Kilos | yay i killed trevor and vodacom | 14:10 |
| HawkiesZA | That explains why my phone lost signal yesterday | 14:10 |
| Kilos | haha | 14:11 |
| Kilos | they too busy promoting music | 14:11 |
| Kilos | instead of making their signal better and more rteliable | 14:12 |
| Kilos | reliable | 14:12 |
| sflr | another thing I will add to agent the local irc server setup | 14:32 |
| Kilos | good idea sflr | 14:32 |
| Kilos | gonna be a long meeting | 14:33 |
| sflr | most of the items we can just propose and discuss/action it later | 14:34 |
| Kilos | yeah good to just get the ball rolling on new things | 14:35 |
| sflr | yes, to see who would be interested in getting involved | 14:37 |
| Kilos | i think the main thing will be getting someone to sponsor a server. the setting up the guys will sort out | 14:39 |
| sflr | yes, the setup will still take few weeks based on the doc https://www.freenode.net/hosting_ircd.shtml | 14:43 |
| Kilos | wow | 14:43 |
| Kilos | maybe Symmetria will help. thats his game | 14:43 |
| Symmetria | hrm | 15:17 |
| Symmetria | whats the question? | 15:17 |
| Symmetria | oh, a freenode server | 15:17 |
| Symmetria | the reason we never did that is because freenode wanted complete root access to the server and thats a major no no | 15:18 |
| Kilos | Symmetria, if we can get a server sponsored on those terms will you help set it up for us? | 15:20 |
| Symmetria | kilos if you can get a server I dont mind helping set it up | 15:21 |
| Symmetria | configuring ircds isnt hard :) | 15:22 |
| Kilos | ty Symmetria . will let you know | 15:22 |
| Kilos | maybe you can give classes at the same time | 15:22 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:22 |
| Symmetria | heh its really not that hard | 15:24 |
| Symmetria | 90% of an ircd config file is comments :) | 15:25 |
| Kilos | sflr, you reading? | 15:25 |
| Symmetria | basically though, the config file normally has Y lines, I lines, U lines, O lines and C/N lines that are really important | 15:25 |
| Symmetria | Y lines generally setup things like your text flood queues etc, though they can be set in your I lines as well | 15:25 |
| Symmetria | U lines determine which servers can execute certain things | 15:26 |
| Symmetria | O lines are your operator lines | 15:26 |
| Symmetria | and C/N lines are your connect and network lines | 15:26 |
| Symmetria | its different from ircd to ircd, but really, it aint hard | 15:26 |
| Symmetria | oh, the I lines are the lines which set who you allow onto your server | 15:26 |
| Kilos | lets hope we get one sponsored | 15:27 |
| Symmetria | (I lines have also been replaced by auth blocks in some version) | 15:27 |
| Symmetria | auth { | 15:27 |
| Symmetria | user = "*@::/0"; | 15:27 |
| Symmetria | flags = need_ident; | 15:27 |
| Symmetria | class = "ipv6"; | 15:27 |
| Symmetria | }; | 15:27 |
| Symmetria | something like that | 15:27 |
| Symmetria | says let on any ipv6 user, so long as they are running ident | 15:28 |
| sflr | i'm reading now :) | 15:30 |
| sflr | Symmetria: when we get a server, would you assist to configure it? charlvn also volunteered to help out with the setup | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | yeah I dont mind :) | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | Ive been running ircds for more years than I can count :) | 15:32 |
| Symmetria | lol one of these days I need to reboot my current irc server lol | 15:32 |
| Symmetria | irc etc # uptime | 15:32 |
| Symmetria | 5:32PM up 1386 days, 7:51, 1 user, load averages: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 | 15:32 |
| * Symmetria laughs | 15:32 | |
| sflr | hmm... your Zen server where you meditate and monologue :P | 15:33 |
| sflr | that is awesome news though | 15:33 |
| sflr | will a VM do it? or need physical? | 15:33 |
| Symmetria | VM should be fine, ircd is typically very very light on resources | 15:34 |
| Symmetria | ratbox 42294 0.0 15.9 165860 165284 ?? Ss 27May10 661:13.91 bin/ircd | 15:35 |
| Symmetria | thats running with 400 users connected on a network with 40k users connected to the network | 15:35 |
| sflr | ok. a local server shouldnt get much traffic. but will drop our lag times | 15:36 |
| Symmetria | heh, with a gig of ram though and a box with a P2 cpu you could run a few thousand users | 15:36 |
| Symmetria | heh, just be warned, irc server attract attacks | 15:36 |
| Symmetria | there is nothing on the internet more likely to get ddos'ed than irc server | 15:37 |
| Symmetria | :p | 15:37 |
| sflr | yes, i thought so. any recommendations to mitigate that? | 15:38 |
| sflr | ddos comes and goes, matter of time | 15:38 |
| Symmetria | heh, we deroute the public v4 address internationally | 15:40 |
| Symmetria | on irc.ac.za | 15:40 |
| Symmetria | you can connect to irc.ac.za via v6 globally, and v4 locally, but v4 global it isnt even announced | 15:41 |
| Symmetria | and has backup null routes all the way through the network just incase it ever does get announced | 15:41 |
| Symmetria | :p | 15:41 |
| sflr | that sounds like the right solution | 15:41 |
| sflr | doesnt that conflicts with freenode terms, etc? | 15:42 |
| Symmetria | dunno | 15:47 |
| Symmetria | never run a server on freenode terms :) | 15:47 |
| Symmetria | I didnt like their terms about access to the server and who controlled the actual server | 15:47 |
| sflr | haha. ok, lets start with the obvious question :) do you think would be good to have a local freenode server? | 15:50 |
| Symmetria | yeah, it would be good, *IF* you could find a host that has enough bandwidth and enough clue to weather the ddos | 15:54 |
| Symmetria | basically, if the server keeps splitting, because of attacks etc, it doesnt help anything | 15:54 |
| Symmetria | if the server stays linked and can weather the storms, then its useful | 15:54 |
| Symmetria | now the question of if I think you can find a host that can weather that, thats another story :) | 15:54 |
| Symmetria | in reality, you have 5 possible places that have the capacity to risk hosting something like this | 15:55 |
| sflr | any suggestion for a place? | 15:55 |
| Symmetria | a.) Telkom b.) Internet Solutions c.) MWEB d.) TENET and e.) MTN | 15:55 |
| * sflr all ears | 15:55 | |
| Symmetria | you stand less than no hope on a and e | 15:56 |
| Symmetria | and very little hope with b | 15:56 |
| Symmetria | (b has suffered under 2 many irc related ddos attacks in the past) | 15:56 |
| Symmetria | your most likely is convincing mweb its advantageous | 15:56 |
| sflr | ok, we can try mweb then. I wonder if they host irc servers already | 15:57 |
| Symmetria | tenet wont host it, they already host irc.ac.za and even that is still run by me since I left, and as I said, the conditions around freenode servers when I was at tenet made it unattractive, I seriously doubt they will change that stance with me not there | 15:57 |
| Symmetria | your best option is to contact someone like Jaco Muller at mweb | 15:57 |
| sflr | is it optinet mweb? | 15:58 |
| Symmetria | yeah, optinet/mweb same thing :) | 15:58 |
| Symmetria | if you convince mweb to agree, I will work with mweb if they want to setup proper protections | 15:59 |
| sflr | ok, thanks Symmetria! i must come up with some speech to sound convincing. hehe | 15:59 |
| sflr | they do host game servers as i remember | 15:59 |
| Symmetria | and I've done a LOT of work with mweb so they will know who I am ;p | 15:59 |
| Symmetria | yes, they do, but thats for business reasons :) | 16:00 |
| sflr | must I tell Jaco that Symmetria sent me? ;) | 16:00 |
| Symmetria | the business case for irc is more difficult :P | 16:00 |
| Symmetria | sflr no :) please dont do that :P | 16:00 |
| sflr | its for Ubuntu! | 16:00 |
| Symmetria | you can tell him that if they agree to it you have a team with experience who will help set it up and that includes Andrew Alston, but dont say I sent you, and dont say I endorse this thing :) I do neither, I am just willing to help if you get them convinced | 16:01 |
| Symmetria | :p | 16:01 |
| sflr | yes, that is correct. | 16:01 |
| sflr | the convincing part also needs to include the free hosting :) | 16:02 |
| sflr | so it will definetely not be a sales speech | 16:02 |
| Symmetria | you'd have to convince them its in their interests and the interests of their clients :) | 16:03 |
| sflr | but hey, we can give them free Cds! | 16:03 |
| Symmetria | :P do you have any idea how many free cds you might be giving out if you offer mweb free ubuntu cds? | 16:03 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:03 |
| Symmetria | I dont think you have that many cds to give :p | 16:03 |
| Symmetria | or that many years to wait for them to burn :p | 16:03 |
| sflr | haha, we can host iso at mweb. free download for mweb clients | 16:04 |
| sflr | just kidding. I will sleep on it | 16:04 |
| Symmetria | :P mweb clients already get free download from the official ubuntu mirror in .za | 16:04 |
| Symmetria | :p | 16:04 |
| sflr | is Jaco working at optinet cape town or in joburg? | 16:04 |
| Symmetria | cape town | 16:04 |
| sflr | awesome, will pay them a visit then | 16:04 |
| Symmetria | and he's not just a techie, you may not find it all that easy to get in to see him :) | 16:05 |
| Symmetria | Jaco is *very* senior management | 16:05 |
| sflr | i hoped so. techies dont make decisions | 16:05 |
| Symmetria | LOL techies make more decisions than you think :) | 16:06 |
| sflr | business decisions | 16:06 |
| Symmetria | heh, many more than you think :) | 16:06 |
| sflr | dont want to bribe a techie to host it on a hidden VM | 16:06 |
| Symmetria | I was CTO for TENET, I made most of their decisions :p | 16:06 |
| sflr | CTO is not techie in sense of workforce. its senior management | 16:07 |
| Symmetria | :) just depends on the level of techie you are dealing with lol | 16:07 |
| Symmetria | hehe this is true I guess :) | 16:07 |
| Symmetria | though peering managers are techies in teh sense of work force and they wield more power than you can imagine :) | 16:07 |
| sflr | I will sleep on it and dream up the speech | 16:07 |
| Kilos | sflr, be a diplomat | 16:08 |
| Symmetria | ok supper time :p | 16:08 |
| Kilos | Maaz, diplomat | 16:08 |
| Maaz | A diplomat is a person who can tell others to go to hell in such a nice way that they look forward to the trip | 16:08 |
| Kilos | ty Symmetria | 16:08 |
| sflr | thanks Symmetria . will keep you updated. hope you will be able to unleash your techie power on new irc server at mweb soon =) | 16:09 |
| sflr | Kilos, hope you took notes. lol | 16:10 |
| Kilos | hahaha thats your job | 16:10 |
| Kilos | but get the server and andrew will help | 16:10 |
| Kilos | just not when he is photgraphing lightning | 16:11 |
| sflr | cool, will come up with the battle plan and lets see how it goes. failure is not an option | 16:12 |
| Kilos | how are mweb gonna do something like this if there server is already too small | 16:12 |
| Kilos | their | 16:12 |
| sflr | need to go now. laterz | 16:14 |
| Kilos | <sflr> mweb.co.za down. server ran out of space. hehe http://i49.tinypic.com/2vmamhf.jpg | 16:15 |
| Kilos | <sflr> Running Microsoft. We should pay them a visit =) | 16:15 |
| Kilos | go safe | 16:15 |
| Kilos | hi psydroid | 16:38 |
| psydroid | hi Kilos | 16:40 |
| Kilos | you missed the fun today. we setup ubuntu-za on twitter | 16:47 |
| Kilos | yo plustwo why so quiet lately | 16:48 |
| Kilos | you didnt answer sflr | 17:23 |
| sflr | hmmm.what was the question? im on mobile | 17:31 |
| Kilos | how are mweb gonna do something like this if there server is already too small | 17:31 |
| sflr | what do u mean too small? | 17:33 |
| sflr | they have a datacenter. will ask them to get a server there | 17:33 |
| Kilos | thats what you said they ran out of space | 17:33 |
| sflr | oh. that was on their one server only | 17:34 |
| sflr | where their website is running. | 17:34 |
| sflr | if we get a server it will be a new one | 17:35 |
| Kilos | ah , i still gotta learn how all this stuff works | 17:36 |
| sflr | you know a lot already and always helpful :) | 17:37 |
| Kilos | i thought a server was a few harddrives connected inna large box with the rest of a pc inside | 17:38 |
| Kilos | wont bug you no more. it sucks using a mobile | 17:39 |
| sflr | ok. will chat later! | 17:41 |
| magespawn | Evening all | 17:49 |
| Kilos | yo magespawn | 17:49 |
| magespawn | Hey Kilos whats up? | 17:50 |
| Kilos | lol spent the day getting ubuntu-za working on twitter | 17:51 |
| Kilos | but peeps are slow to follow | 17:51 |
| magespawn | I will have a look | 17:57 |
| magespawn | Who is running it? You? | 17:57 |
| Kilos | ya | 17:57 |
| magespawn | Cool. | 17:58 |
| Kilos | but i had lotsa help getting the thing going right | 17:58 |
| Kilos | and working here on gwibber was another schlep | 17:58 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hmm... I'd say leave the conversational stuff for your personal account and stick to real ubuntu related announcements or retweets from interesting peeps on the official account | 17:58 |
| inetpro | but that's just my opinion | 17:59 |
| Kilos | i agree | 18:00 |
| Kilos | what official account? | 18:00 |
| inetpro | let's take that example of the vodacom and the trevor dude, your ubuntuza followers would not even have realised that you followed them | 18:00 |
| Kilos | i didnt know that, i thought you guys all saw it too | 18:01 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:01 |
| Kilos | dunno how i became followers of them | 18:01 |
| magespawn | Talk about having a split personality | 18:02 |
| inetpro | Kilos: just be patient about followers following that account, they will come with time | 18:03 |
| inetpro | I'm not saying there's anything wrong with what you posted, I would just say it's worth giving it some thought as to what it is that you want to achieve with the account | 18:05 |
| Kilos | suggestions welcome | 18:06 |
| inetpro | obviously there are many different aproaches to get to 100 or 1,000 or 1,000,000 followers and I don't have all the answers | 18:07 |
| Kilos | personally i dunno what to do there when we have this channel here | 18:08 |
| Kilos | basically maybe ubuntu followers only methinks | 18:08 |
| inetpro | Kilos: twitter is very popular out there | 18:09 |
| Kilos | if we 20 then we 20 | 18:09 |
| inetpro | something like 140 million active users | 18:09 |
| Kilos | eish | 18:09 |
| inetpro | lots of scope for us to spread the message :-) | 18:10 |
| Kilos | most are kids and windows users though | 18:10 |
| Kilos | and mobile users | 18:10 |
| magespawn | I have few followers who would be interested. | 18:11 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:11 |
| Banlam | don't underestimate the power of the RT | 18:11 |
| magespawn | Indeed. | 18:12 |
| Kilos | i see gwibber doesnt show that option here | 18:12 |
| Kilos | just reply and menu | 18:13 |
| Kilos | oh its in menu | 18:13 |
| * Kilos hangs his head | 18:13 | |
| Kilos | could even run twitter from pidgin | 18:15 |
| magespawn | No worries, learning a new system takes a little time. | 18:15 |
| Kilos | magespawn, how are you plans going? | 18:16 |
| Kilos | are you still doing tours through the park | 18:16 |
| magespawn | Yes, the wireless ones have taken a bit of a back seat, I am busy working out the legalese to a commerce website | 18:17 |
| Kilos | ah good luck | 18:18 |
| inetpro | ahh... that conversation between Symmetria and sflr was rather interesting | 18:20 |
| Kilos | yeah | 18:20 |
| inetpro | hope we can get somewhere with that | 18:21 |
| Kilos | heres hoping mweb bites | 18:21 |
| Kilos | dunno how they gonna be convinced its too their advantage though | 18:21 |
| inetpro | Kilos: good advertising if they deliver a good service | 18:22 |
| Kilos | from where inetpro | 18:23 |
| inetpro | they do maintain their own network and such on which this irc server will be runnind and if it's well managed and the server is well protected... | 18:25 |
| inetpro | running* | 18:25 |
| Kilos | ah | 18:25 |
| Kilos | can you just explain to me. andrew said a P2 cpu with 1g ram is good enough | 18:26 |
| Kilos | isnt it then possible to run a server for freenode from a spare pc from someone with a good internet connection | 18:27 |
| Kilos | why does it have to be hosted with the big guys | 18:28 |
| inetpro | Kilos: heh you should know, Symmetria likes to exaggerate | 18:28 |
| magespawn | The speed of the internet could be an issue, and reliability of the machine. | 18:28 |
| inetpro | and I say that with a huge lot of respect for the man | 18:28 |
| Kilos | but lets say an old p4 with 2g ram should work shoudnt it | 18:30 |
| Kilos | is the freenode bit just for here or for all of freenode | 18:30 |
| inetpro | and magespawn is right | 18:30 |
| inetpro | technically anybody can connect to any other freenode server out there | 18:31 |
| inetpro | at least anyone of them that is publicly accessible | 18:31 |
| inetpro | but it just makes sense to connect to the closest server | 18:32 |
| Kilos | i see his point about not wanting them to have total control of the server but if its on a home pc say then so what | 18:33 |
| inetpro | Kilos: he didn't mention "a.) Telkom b.) Internet Solutions c.) MWEB d.) TENET and e.) MTN" for no reason | 18:34 |
| Kilos | the maintenance man will still have ultimate say over what happens | 18:34 |
| inetpro | Kilos: freenode's client servers should expect to sustain around 2-4Mbps of traffic, with much higher peaks | 18:37 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:37 |
| inetpro | Total usage for client servers is usually around 320 gigabytes per month | 18:37 |
| Kilos | wow | 18:37 |
| Kilos | thats not gonna be easy to get from mweb | 18:38 |
| inetpro | freenode doesn't even consider home cable/DSL connections | 18:38 |
| Kilos | oh thats bits/sec | 18:38 |
| Kilos | ah they want like direct optics? | 18:39 |
| inetpro | ah, and I must apologise to Symmetria | 18:40 |
| inetpro | Freenode's minimum requirenment is Pentium4 with 1GB RAM | 18:41 |
| inetpro | so he didn't even just make that up | 18:41 |
| Kilos | you looking at requirements | 18:42 |
| Kilos | ? | 18:42 |
| Kilos | was too tiny for me to read | 18:42 |
| Kilos | rsync let me down | 18:42 |
| inetpro | I'm looking at http://freenode.net/hosting_ircd.shtml | 18:43 |
| Kilos | wb sflr | 18:48 |
| sflr | hey guys | 18:48 |
| charlvn | hi guys | 18:48 |
| magespawn | Thats a fair amount of data just for chat. | 18:48 |
| sflr | I solved my Flash problem from yesterday: rewrite the app in php. lulz | 18:48 |
| magespawn | Hi sflr, charlvn | 18:48 |
| magespawn | Hah | 18:48 |
| charlvn | hi magespawn | 18:48 |
| sflr | ahoy charlvn, magespawn | 18:49 |
| charlvn | re the ircd issue, isn't it possible to restrict the access to south african IP ranges? | 18:49 |
| charlvn | on ircnet this is quite a common thing to do | 18:49 |
| charlvn | for example if i connect directly i can only connect to a ircnet server in .nl while if i connect from my server i have to connect to an ircnet server in germany | 18:49 |
| sflr | if you have access to earlier logs Symmetria was explaining how is done properly | 18:50 |
| charlvn | this might not be a common thing to do on freenode though but maybe they will make an exemption considering the special circumstances (first server in africa) | 18:50 |
| sflr | ipv4 only in SA, ipv6 overseas | 18:50 |
| charlvn | sflr: ok lemme browse up a bit, i probably missed it | 18:50 |
| sflr | it was all regarding getting a server setup at mweb | 18:51 |
| magespawn | Kilos maybe things like this for the twitter account http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/ | 18:51 |
| sflr | "first server in Africa" thanks charlvn! that i include in my email to mweb. haha | 18:51 |
| sflr | app showdown, wow! didnt know about it. are we doing anything? :) | 18:52 |
| charlvn | ok i get the gist of it | 18:53 |
| charlvn | yeah sounds like mweb is the best option | 18:53 |
| charlvn | they are also behind the open routing thing | 18:53 |
| charlvn | open peering i mean | 18:53 |
| inetpro | charlvn: you read very quickly :-) | 18:53 |
| charlvn | sflr: no i mean the first freenode server lol | 18:54 |
| Kilos | ya he has 2 eyes | 18:54 |
| Kilos | young ones | 18:54 |
| charlvn | the only at the moment, maybe there were others previously | 18:54 |
| Kilos | i think the guys spoke about us having one years ago with Symmetria too i think hey inetpro ? | 18:55 |
| inetpro | magespawn: nice one | 18:55 |
| sflr | yes, lol. i also meant freenode server :) but we also need to promote Ubuntu with it... | 18:55 |
| charlvn | http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml <- there is literally only one server outside the usa and europe and that is in australia | 18:55 |
| charlvn | inetpro: no i just mastered the art of skim/scan reading | 18:55 |
| charlvn | a good skill to have for online :) | 18:55 |
| sflr | charlvn, hope you dont see dead ppl too :P haha | 18:56 |
| charlvn | heh | 18:56 |
| magespawn | ty inetpro got it from google+ Ubuntu | 18:56 |
| sflr | how is the Ubuntu use in sub-saharan africa? any stats? | 18:56 |
| inetpro | G+ is really very very cool for staying up to date with news | 18:57 |
| Kilos | magespawn, whatsin that link. opera cant get in? | 18:58 |
| Kilos | or taking forever anyway | 18:58 |
| magespawn | Welcome to the Ubuntu App Showdown, an exciting contest to create an app from scratch for Ubuntu in three weeks, and delivered in the Ubuntu Software Centre. | 18:59 |
| sflr | The best apps will win some awesome prizes from System76 and Qt including a System76 Gazelle Professional laptop and Nokia N9 phone for the gold prize, a System76 Lemur Ultra laptop and Nokia N9 phone for the silver prize and a Nokia N9 phone for the bronze prize. | 19:00 |
| sflr | priiizeeee :) | 19:00 |
| Kilos | wow | 19:00 |
| Kilos | write guys write | 19:00 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you may want to follow https://twitter.com/#!/Ubuntu_OS | 19:01 |
| magespawn | Copy, paste. | 19:02 |
| Kilos | no man write the prize winning app | 19:03 |
| Kilos | ideas on how to tell gwibber to follow them will be appreciated | 19:05 |
| Kilos | or must i go to twitter with a browser to do that inetpro ? | 19:06 |
| Kilos | like is there a /j command or something | 19:08 |
| inetpro | hmm... I don't really use gwibber | 19:08 |
| Banlam | summary: - Follow a user | 19:09 |
| Banlam | + Provide ability to Follow a user | 19:09 |
| Banlam | "To follow a person, just type "follow <Nick>", without the @, as if you would send a new tweet." | 19:09 |
| Kilos | ty Banlam | 19:09 |
| Banlam | np, all hail google | 19:10 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:10 |
| Kilos | without them " " things too hey | 19:10 |
| Banlam | i would imagine so | 19:10 |
| Banlam | and without the < > | 19:10 |
| Banlam | follow Ubuntu_OS | 19:11 |
| Kilos | ty did that but gwibber doesnt give you the option to see who you are following | 19:12 |
| Kilos | so heres hoping | 19:12 |
| Banlam | :P | 19:12 |
| Banlam | surely there are better progams than gwibber? | 19:13 |
| Banlam | it sounds kinda uselss | 19:13 |
| inetpro | Banlam: it really is useless | 19:13 |
| Banlam | :P | 19:14 |
| Banlam | are you using it just for twitter Kilos? | 19:14 |
| Kilos | maia uses it and got me using it a few years back. it can do adentica and fb and some others as well | 19:14 |
| Kilos | yip just twitter ubuntu-za | 19:14 |
| Banlam | what's adentica? | 19:15 |
| inetpro | to be honest, I actually have it running in the background on my home Ubuntu system but I rather use the web interface | 19:15 |
| Kilos | left my sharpeys out | 19:15 |
| Kilos | oh my forgot the spelling | 19:15 |
| Kilos | identica or something | 19:15 |
| Banlam | what's identica? | 19:15 |
| inetpro | ubuntu needs something that can compare with choqok | 19:15 |
| Banlam | a canadian twitter it would seem | 19:16 |
| inetpro | if I can find some time over the weekend I might wipe this Ubuntu and install Kubuntu again | 19:16 |
| inetpro | long overdue | 19:17 |
| Kilos | hehe you still on unity? | 19:17 |
| inetpro | yep | 19:17 |
| Kilos | well done. that was a long while | 19:17 |
| Kilos | dig twitter identica friendfeed buzz flicker | 19:19 |
| Banlam | kilos according to twitter you are following ubuntu_os | 19:19 |
| Kilos | lots like pidgin | 19:19 |
| Kilos | ya ty Banlam it worked | 19:19 |
| Kilos | yay not ya | 19:20 |
| Banlam | :) | 19:20 |
| Banlam | and you now have 8 followers | 19:20 |
| Kilos | Banlam, are you following yet? | 19:20 |
| Kilos | yay | 19:20 |
| Banlam | i just started | 19:20 |
| Kilos | ty | 19:20 |
| Banlam | i'm starting to reach the point where i need to make lists :/ | 19:21 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:21 |
| Banlam | but i'm too lazy | 19:21 |
| Banlam | and have real work to do | 19:21 |
| Kilos | eish Banlam you follow and say nothing | 19:24 |
| Kilos | sflr, you still on the fone | 19:24 |
| Banlam | kilos, what do you mean? | 19:24 |
| Kilos | i see niks from you there | 19:24 |
| inetpro | Banlam: you from PE? | 19:25 |
| Banlam | I am living in PE, but not from here | 19:25 |
| * Banlam = gareth cawood | 19:25 | |
| inetpro | ahh | 19:25 |
| inetpro | cool | 19:25 |
| Banlam | yeah, nic eenough :) | 19:25 |
| Banlam | don't know of any other ubuntuers in the area though | 19:25 |
| Kilos | would be nice if i could make gwibber bloep | 19:26 |
| inetpro | Banlam: that's why I like the idea of having this twitter account | 19:26 |
| Banlam | yeah? | 19:26 |
| inetpro | so many ubuntu locals out there that we still don't even know about | 19:27 |
| Kilos | wasnt there someone in pe asking for cds the other day | 19:28 |
| Kilos | in the lists | 19:28 |
| * Banlam is not actually on the lists :/ | 19:28 | |
| Kilos | wish maia would come visit | 19:28 |
| * Banlam isn't the most active ubuntu user | 19:28 | |
| inetpro | Kilos: have you even announced the account on the mailing list yet? | 19:28 |
| Kilos | no inetpro was hoping you would | 19:29 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:29 |
| inetpro | :-) | 19:29 |
| Kilos | too far to scroll back to that link you gave me | 19:29 |
| Kilos | hands frozen | 19:29 |
| Kilos | one thing about gwibber is it isnt as data hungry as using a browser | 19:30 |
| inetpro | Kilos: that's good to know | 19:31 |
| magespawn | How hungry is pidgin? | 19:31 |
| Kilos | pidgin mxit uses nearly nothing but msn and aim run the data | 19:34 |
| Kilos | mxit uses under 200kB the whole day | 19:34 |
| Symmetria | heh any text communication uses virtually nothing | 19:35 |
| magespawn | So the pidgin isn't hungry then,depending on the networks. | 19:36 |
| Kilos | going online to twitter today for the setting up was around 40mB | 19:36 |
| Symmetria | I think our efnet server averages around 20k/second :P | 19:36 |
| Kilos | yeah pidgin is great | 19:36 |
| Symmetria | and thats with like 400 users online on it | 19:36 |
| Kilos | freenode eats 200kB per hour | 19:36 |
| Kilos | methinks pidgin mxit only counts the text in and out not all the refreshing freenode does | 19:38 |
| Symmetria | irc is actually a pretty efficient protocol | 19:39 |
| Symmetria | for example, a leaf server will not see traffic for channels/people that arent connected to it or though it | 19:39 |
| Symmetria | so if you have 5 servers, all through a hub in a star topology, the hub will see it all, but if you have a channel of 10 people, 5 on server 1 and 5 on server 2, servers 3 4 and 5 will see nothing of that channel until someone joins it on one of them | 19:40 |
| magespawn | That seems a better setup than the star setup | 19:41 |
| magespawn | So thw traffic only goes to the servers that are active | 19:46 |
| magespawn | Miss read that at first | 19:47 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ok, I posted a message on the ML | 19:49 |
| Kilos | ty inetpro just got the mail | 19:49 |
| Kilos | you left you out | 19:50 |
| magespawn | Hah | 19:50 |
| inetpro | Kilos: heh I am part of we | 19:51 |
| * Kilos wonders where maia is | 19:51 | |
| Kilos | lol | 19:52 |
| Kilos | sorry inetpro | 19:52 |
| inetpro | Kilos: np | 19:52 |
| Kilos | maybe the monkey will be here monday night as well | 19:53 |
| Kilos | nuvolari, yoohoo | 19:53 |
| inetpro | sflr: BTW, where are all those ideas that you wanted on the agenda? | 19:54 |
| sflr | sorry guys a bit slow tonight. kids are high on hot chocolate and there is school tomorrow. | 19:54 |
| inetpro | sflr: np, I understand everything | 19:55 |
| inetpro | but it's time for them to go sleep now | 19:56 |
| inetpro | :-) | 19:56 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:56 |
| Kilos | sflr, ages? | 19:56 |
| sflr | I wanted to add to agenda: twitter channel announcement (including people who will be able to post), and website updates ideas (ubuntu-za.org) | 19:56 |
| sflr | inetpro, they supposed to be sleeping an hour ago already | 19:56 |
| sflr | Kilos, 3 & 9 | 19:57 |
| Kilos | oh my goodness. you must be about ians age | 19:57 |
| Kilos | or goosies on the outside | 19:57 |
| inetpro | sflr: shall we put those under Ubuntu Experience? | 19:57 |
| magespawn | Wow they are up late. | 19:58 |
| superfly | sflr: we have an almost 3 year old - fun times | 19:58 |
| inetpro | or rather let's make a standing point called Administrativia | 19:58 |
| sflr | magespawn, they are high on hot chocolate. :( haha | 19:58 |
| superfly | magespawn: btw, our sales lady is very please with me ;-) | 19:58 |
| superfly | *pleased | 19:59 |
| magespawn | Thats cool. | 19:59 |
| sflr | inetpro> yes, administrativiakus | 19:59 |
| Kilos | yay superfly what you sold | 19:59 |
| superfly | Kilos: Ice, to an Eskimo | 19:59 |
| sflr | superfly, yeah from there is all downhill. haha | 19:59 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 19:59 |
| magespawn | Hah | 20:00 |
| Kilos | maaz define administrativiakus | 20:00 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:00 |
| sflr | how is the new camera? took any lightning photos? lol | 20:00 |
| Maaz | Kilos: I don't have a definition for that. Is it even a word? | 20:00 |
| sflr | maaz> error 500 | 20:00 |
| sflr | i meant some administrative agenda item, where we can add more items if need be. | 20:01 |
| Maaz | sflr: *blink* | 20:01 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:01 |
| sflr | lol | 20:01 |
| Kilos | i love maaz | 20:02 |
| Kilos | wait till he tells you "You not the boss of me" | 20:02 |
| superfly | Wow! Humble Indie Bundle V has hit $5 million! | 20:03 |
| superfly | Just under 3 hours left to pay what you want for a bunch of games that run on Linux | 20:04 |
| inetpro | sflr: I added the point with you as owner | 20:05 |
| sflr | cool. guess I have to be here then :P | 20:06 |
| inetpro | sflr: for sure :-) | 20:06 |
| inetpro | and superfly as well | 20:06 |
| inetpro | since he's the chief webmaster | 20:06 |
| superfly | inetpro: I'll do what I can | 20:07 |
| sflr | i only play xbox :) Battlefield3 lately | 20:07 |
| superfly | sflr: apparently Psyconauts and Bastion are excellent... Braid is really good (I have it already) | 20:07 |
| sflr | that's great. superfly, was thinking to add tweetroll to the site, now that we twitter account | 20:07 |
| Banlam | finished bastion the other day | 20:07 |
| Banlam | really fun game | 20:08 |
| sflr | I must check them out | 20:08 |
| superfly | sflr: 2.75 hours left, don't waste your time! | 20:08 |
| zeref | hurrrmmmm | 20:09 |
| sflr | is it GMT? lol | 20:09 |
| Kilos | superfly, you the clever editor. help sflr sort a plea to mweb | 20:11 |
| inetpro | I just restructured the agenda a bit so we don't waste time jumping around | 20:15 |
| sflr | which plea? for the server? yeah, if anyone has some input would be great. we can make a generic sponsorship plea letter to raise funds for ubuntuza activities | 20:15 |
| Kilos | didnt you read the fly sold ice to an eskimo | 20:15 |
| superfly | a plea to mweb? for what server? Kilos, are you getting your lines crossed again? | 20:16 |
| Banlam | becomes difficult, when there's no ubuntu bank account, nad people are paying into random accounts | 20:16 |
| Kilos | irc server | 20:16 |
| Banlam | accountability becomes an issue | 20:16 |
| Kilos | freenode sorry | 20:16 |
| sflr | to get a server superfly, freenode | 20:16 |
| superfly | pfff, mweb would sooner smoke their socks | 20:16 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:16 |
| magespawn | Could we set a bank account? | 20:17 |
| sflr | Banlam, good point. we only take goods then. | 20:17 |
| magespawn | Section 21 company stuff | 20:17 |
| sflr | you need some trust or entity to open? | 20:17 |
| magespawn | Yes | 20:17 |
| magespawn | Section 21 is a not for profit company | 20:17 |
| sflr | if we want to organize some big event we need some funds | 20:18 |
| Banlam | then you need a constitution | 20:18 |
| Banlam | need accounts audited | 20:18 |
| sflr | ok. what about tax? | 20:18 |
| Banlam | major effort | 20:18 |
| magespawn | Yes it is but could be worth it | 20:18 |
| sflr | superfly, why do you think mweb wouldnt sponsor us with a server? | 20:18 |
| magespawn | You pay much reduced tax. | 20:18 |
| Banlam | you need some committed people, who're gonna be around for at least 5 years to make sure it gets going | 20:19 |
| sflr | we can look at other loco teams world wide. I'm sure there is someone who can give advice | 20:19 |
| magespawn | It would pay mweb in advertising alone I think. | 20:19 |
| sflr | constitution can be tricky to put together | 20:20 |
| magespawn | Sure we could find an example on the net. | 20:21 |
| sflr | 5 year commitment? sounds like marriage. however we would need a structure | 20:21 |
| sflr | then people can still come and go, as long as the roles are defined | 20:21 |
| Kilos | easiest to just trust someone to look after the money and shoot him if its short | 20:21 |
| Banlam | haha | 20:22 |
| Banlam | that is true :) | 20:22 |
| sflr | thanks Kilos. haha | 20:22 |
| Banlam | just need to find someone to trust | 20:22 |
| Banlam | sflr, it's often difficult to find people to fill those roles | 20:22 |
| Banlam | it's easy to setup a structure | 20:22 |
| Kilos | the fly for one | 20:22 |
| Kilos | goosie for another | 20:23 |
| Kilos | they past the skelm age | 20:23 |
| Banlam | what if the goose eats the fly? | 20:23 |
| Kilos | Banlam, you in pe hey? | 20:23 |
| magespawn | Have elected posts. | 20:23 |
| Banlam | this is correct | 20:23 |
| sflr | the question is how many people see this viable to do? we need goals, visions, short/long term plans etc | 20:23 |
| Kilos | vincent bullet and vijay something are there too and vijay is getting cds from maia | 20:24 |
| magespawn | I will see what I can find out. | 20:24 |
| Banlam | oh, cool | 20:24 |
| Banlam | getting CDs isn't really an issue | 20:24 |
| Banlam | if CDs are needed, i'm probably going to make it to stellies next month some time | 20:25 |
| Kilos | no man just to let you know you arent alone there | 20:25 |
| Banlam | :) | 20:25 |
| Banlam | thanks | 20:25 |
| charlvn | oh my goodness, i just saw a belgian video! | 20:25 |
| charlvn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnGXcCPJr9E | 20:25 |
| charlvn | my reaction: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/185/168/misc-jackie-chan-l.png | 20:25 |
| Kilos | searched through over 1000 mails to get that | 20:25 |
| sflr | UTAH loco team constitutions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtahTeam/Constitution | 20:26 |
| Banlam | haha, to find the PE people? | 20:26 |
| Banlam | we had a SULUG constitution | 20:26 |
| Banlam | was very simple though | 20:26 |
| Banlam | don't think it'd pass a NPO setup | 20:26 |
| Kilos | ya i member some things and pe was one of them | 20:26 |
| Kilos | just had to find it | 20:26 |
| Banlam | thanks Kilos | 20:26 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:26 |
| Kilos | yw | 20:26 |
| Kilos | now you gotta join the lists | 20:27 |
| sflr | what's SULUG Banlam? | 20:27 |
| Banlam | stellenbosch university linux users group | 20:27 |
| Banlam | lol, just signed up to ubuntu za, emails go straight to Gmail's spam folder | 20:27 |
| Kilos | haha | 20:27 |
| Kilos | yeah i had to tell it they not spam a coupla times | 20:28 |
| Kilos | i think if they see linux commands they start shaking | 20:28 |
| Banlam | haha | 20:29 |
| sflr | thanks Banlam | 20:29 |
| Banlam | a couple times we considered joing the universities society's council. would have given us some benefits, but would have required a lot of work | 20:30 |
| Banlam | and commitment was a problem | 20:30 |
| Banlam | we have a much smaller active user base | 20:30 |
| Banlam | trying to a committee was a challenge itself | 20:31 |
| Banlam | * ..to fill a... | 20:31 |
| magespawn | I would like to find out how to do it anyway, so I will do some research and we can look from there. | 20:31 |
| Banlam | ewwww: http://www.npo.org.za/ | 20:32 |
| bakuman | And now there is not even a secretary, because he decided he had enough and packed his bags and left us | 20:32 |
| Banlam | hahaha | 20:32 |
| Banlam | you know it wasn't by choice | 20:33 |
| Banlam | well, not my first choice | 20:33 |
| sflr | hahaha. lol | 20:33 |
| bakuman | haha | 20:33 |
| Banlam | bakuman, dalk moes ek die jaar net afgevat, n BA gedoen en sommer in stellies geblyu | 20:33 |
| sflr | i think NPO site is not the correct one | 20:34 |
| sflr | looks, smells, tastes dodgy | 20:34 |
| Banlam | i think it does have useful info on it | 20:35 |
| Banlam | even if it's not the official government website | 20:35 |
| Banlam | )(" %* | 20:35 |
| Banlam | &!' | 20:35 |
| Banlam | (!+ | 20:35 |
| Banlam | 20:35 | |
| Banlam | ,'-+ | 20:35 |
| Banlam | o.O | 20:35 |
| * Banlam curses PDFs | 20:35 | |
| Kilos | oh my | 20:35 |
| Banlam | my bad | 20:35 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:35 |
| Kilos | spam spam spam | 20:35 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 20:35 |
| bakuman | lol | 20:35 |
| inetpro | eish! | 20:35 |
| Banlam | basically, you fill in a form, write up a constitution and have a committee of at least 5 members | 20:36 |
| Kilos | hee hee heeeeee | 20:36 |
| sflr | very cool art. comes in colors? | 20:36 |
| bakuman | so gaan een van julle vir ons n app code? http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/ | 20:36 |
| Banlam | then you wait 8-12months | 20:36 |
| inetpro | you guys talk lots this evening?! | 20:36 |
| Banlam | and register with SARS for tax emption | 20:36 |
| bakuman | its because of the Bannn Lammmm | 20:36 |
| * inetpro lol at Banlam "what if the goose eats the fly?" | 20:36 | |
| Banlam | :P | 20:37 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:37 |
| sflr | you mean need to wait for a year? whats the benefit of registering? just for SARS? | 20:37 |
| Banlam | no, that's just part of the process | 20:37 |
| Banlam | the year is for the application to be processed | 20:37 |
| sflr | i see. ok. have you done this before Banlam? | 20:37 |
| sflr | bakuman, do you have any ideas for AppShowdown? | 20:38 |
| Banlam | not specifically, i'm just looking around here, but my mom has formed and helepd run an NPO for the past 15years | 20:38 |
| Kilos | i told you, use a private account and maybe even make it so 2 peeps must sign | 20:38 |
| Banlam | kilos, yeah that will be the least hassle | 20:38 |
| Banlam | just need to find the two people who live close to each other, and are willing | 20:39 |
| sflr | ok, thats good news | 20:39 |
| bakuman | nope sflr, nothing i have time for at least | 20:39 |
| magespawn | And ppl you can trust | 20:39 |
| sflr | trust with what magespawn? | 20:40 |
| sflr | the money part? | 20:40 |
| magespawn | Yup | 20:40 |
| sflr | whoever wants to make money off ubuntuza community will burn in hell (Judas 11:44) #truestory | 20:41 |
| Banlam | :P | 20:41 |
| sflr | it is reality though | 20:41 |
| sflr | members who join must sign ubuntu code of conduct | 20:42 |
| sflr | must be in the constitution | 20:42 |
| magespawn | Most ppl who would steal money do not believe or care | 20:42 |
| sflr | I know magespawn, we can raise money for events then. | 20:43 |
| sflr | But we might also get a big sponsorship from a company for a year | 20:43 |
| sflr | then they will also keep us accountable on where the money was spent etc | 20:44 |
| Kilos | where is judas | 20:44 |
| Kilos | is that afrikaans | 20:44 |
| Banlam | it's unlikely that a company will give sponsorship unless we're registered as an NPO or some organisation | 20:44 |
| sflr | judas priest? | 20:44 |
| Banlam | too many people scamming these days | 20:44 |
| sflr | yes Banlam, we are getting the NPO or some legal entity | 20:45 |
| Banlam | then we also need to find a kindly soul or make sure we'er getting enough money to pay for auditers | 20:45 |
| sflr | this is late night philosophy, but if we see a need to do it, then we should | 20:45 |
| magespawn | Or sponership for auditors | 20:46 |
| Banlam | yup | 20:46 |
| sflr | Banlam, doesnt the state has auditors? we promote free software. | 20:46 |
| Banlam | sflr, if they do, I doubt they'll let us use them for free | 20:46 |
| Kilos | arent the rules for a cc cheaper anmd less involved | 20:47 |
| sflr | we must recruit then professionals from different disciplines into the community. then they can help us. I mean it in a good way. | 20:48 |
| Banlam | you can no longer form CCs | 20:48 |
| Kilos | whew | 20:48 |
| sflr | CC is history | 20:48 |
| Banlam | unfortunately :/ | 20:48 |
| Banlam | but CC won't give us the NPO status | 20:48 |
| Banlam | which is what you want | 20:48 |
| Banlam | to be tax exempt, and get donations from big companies | 20:49 |
| Banlam | but yes, recruiting is essential | 20:49 |
| magespawn | Yup with npo fund raising number etc. | 20:49 |
| sflr | NPO it is then? | 20:51 |
| sflr | should we raise issue on monday meeting? to go legal? lets see what other people think | 20:52 |
| Kilos | ask in the lists if there is an auditor in our community | 20:52 |
| magespawn | Yes lets add it to the agenda. | 20:52 |
| sflr | Maaz> who is auditor in our community? | 20:52 |
| Maaz | sflr: Not a clue, sorry | 20:52 |
| Banlam | it will be a long process which cna be beneficial long term, lots to discuss, but you may as well get the ball rolling | 20:52 |
| Banlam | lol | 20:52 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:53 |
| sflr | I agree Banlam, it will take months and lots of discussions. As long as we have a clear goal and vision of why we doing it, we will make it | 20:53 |
| Kilos | night all of you. sleep tight and warm | 20:54 |
| sflr | Maaz> please recruit an auditor | 20:54 |
| Maaz | sflr: Sorry... | 20:54 |
| Kilos | haha | 20:54 |
| sflr | I am also out for the day. Cheers | 20:55 |
| inetpro | good night all | 20:56 |
| magespawn | Bye Kilos sflr | 20:56 |
| magespawn | Night all | 20:56 |
| inetpro | Maaz: seen highvoltage | 20:59 |
| Maaz | inetpro: highvoltage was last seen 21 days, 3 hours, 7 minutes and 5 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-05-24 10:52:51 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-05-29 17:48:26 PDT | 20:59 |
| inetpro | I hope that highvoltage and tumbleweed will be able to attend our meeting on Monday | 21:00 |
| inetpro | will be nice to get feedback from the UDS event | 21:01 |
| inetpro | marcog: any more ideas for the Agenda from your side? | 21:02 |
| inetpro | Maaz: seen drubin | 21:02 |
| Maaz | inetpro: drubin was last seen 20 days, 22 hours, 13 minutes and 25 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-05-24 15:49:27 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2012-06-02 17:55:07 PDT | 21:02 |
| inetpro | drubin: you are way to quiet these days | 21:03 |
| charlvn | nn all | 21:06 |
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