[00:56] hmmm... why does xchat ignore the color scheme of the rest of the GUI apps? === sameer_ is now known as ffs82defx === ffs82defx is now known as ffs82defxp [01:12] ffs82defxp, did you get your work place switcher back? [01:13] yes. [01:13] w30: how do I make the workspace switcher take on a vertical orientation? [01:13] I put it onto a vertical panel [01:13] but it's still horizontal [01:15] ffs82defxp, donno, I have never used a vertical panel. [01:16] I feel like the workspace switcher is too small just on the default panel.. [01:18] ffs82defxp, precisely because of having short horizontal space for names etc. [02:25] Anyone fix the vmware 8.0.3 virtual network device error on Xubuntu 12 ?? [02:26] VaiCor, tried asking in #vmware ? [02:27] good [02:29] I found where you can download XFCE themes on xfce-look.org, but are there any that are just pure color changes? Please help.. === pteague is now known as pteague_work === pteague_work is now known as pteague_laptop === pteague_laptop is now known as pteague_android === pteague_android is now known as pteague [03:01] what program xubuntu use to login ?? [03:06] GUI? lightdm [03:07] kk can look up how to xdmcp from it on net [03:25] ok have xdmcp setup for incoming connections on desktop [03:26] how do i set up xubuntu (on laptop) so can log on to desktop ?? [05:47] Could someone tell me about virtual packages? Trying to install through Ubuntu Software Center a game I bought on Humble Indie Bundle gives this: [05:47] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [05:47] limbo: Depends: limbo-bin (= 1.0-0ubuntu4) but it is a virtual package [06:14] Same with another. "The following packages have unmet dependencies: [06:14] psychonauts: Depends: psychonauts-bin (>= 1.2) but it is a virtual package [06:14] " [06:20] Vermicelli: how are you trting to install them? through ubuntu repository? [06:21] Through Ubuntu SOftware Center. [06:22] Hm, I had no problem with installing them but I downloaded packages from the site instead [06:22] so sorry, can't really help with that :/ [06:22] I'll probably end up doign that, but it was made to look like this was the friendler way. :-P [06:22] Thanks. [06:23] Guys, I noticed that the area in which the cursor changes and allows for the resizing of a window to happen (at the corner of a window) is rather small. I cannot quickly resize a window because of this. Is there something I can do about that? [06:24] Change the window manager? [06:25] How do I do that [06:25] ? [06:25] sameer: the 'preferable' way to do that is to hit crtl/alt and right mouse button at the same time [06:25] can't remember which key it is by default, it's either one of them^ [06:25] menu-settings-settings manager- window manager [06:26] sameer: you can change key in settings->window manager tweaks->accessibility [06:26] Or that works. New to me. alt+rtclick [06:31] I like the shortcut, but you'd think the developers would've accounted for peoples lack of ability when it comes to being precise; especially when you are using a trackpad. [06:48] Hi :) [06:50] What's Xubuntu desktop? [06:50] a distro using xfce [06:50] During the installation, when you are offered to select software packages. [06:50] No, I mean the package [06:51] oic xubuntu-desktop [06:51] It asks me if I wanna install OpenSSH server, Mail server, Print server, Xubuntu desktop and Manual package selection [06:51] install from where? [06:52] From the installer. It just finished configuring APT. [06:52] I'm installing Xubuntu alternative for 32bit [06:52] oh right [06:52] long time since I did that [06:52] what's the actual question ? [06:54] I'm sorry, firefox crashed. === Silent_ is now known as Silent [06:56] So should I install xubuntu-desktop? [06:56] Silent: if you are installing xubuntu then yes :) [06:57] Then why does it ask me? [06:57] I mean, that's why I'm installing Xubuntu after all. [06:57] !alternate [06:57] The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal [06:58] because it works differently than the livecd - you might not want to install xubuntu-dekstop but xfce or something [06:58] How is xubuntu-desktop different form xfce? [07:00] xubuntu-desktop is xfce with specific things added/changed [07:00] Is there a place where I can read about it? [07:01] http://xubuntu.org/ [07:01] :\ [07:01] Nevermind that for now. Installation doesn't seem to be working - it just fails every time it tries to download xubuntu-desktop [07:01] Is there a log? [07:02] I don't know [07:03] I'll just reboot then. [07:05] What's faster, HTTP or FTP? [07:05] Silent, Torrent :D [07:06] as long as there's a seed :) [07:06] lol [07:06] For Ubuntu mirrors. [07:06] Just HTTP and FTP for now as far as I can see [07:07] hobgoblin: yep :D [07:08] For a single large file, FTP is faster that HTTP. [07:08] in Xubuntu 12.04 LTS Bluetooth has some errors, it was fixed? [07:08] because I didnt change distro for this reason :] [07:09] still have 11.10 and works great :] [07:09] w8ing for 12.10 [07:09] Alright [07:11] hi [07:11] anyone around by chance ? [07:11] Yes [07:11] Why, are you FBI? [07:11] hi. I'm trying to convince someone to try gnome classic but they are using xubuntu. if they run sudo apt-get install gnome-shell will that be safe and best way? [07:11] lol [07:12] I'm sorry, I don't know [07:12] I'd be more inclined to convince them that they should make their own mind up ... [07:12] haha [07:12] I'd just try some sort of Gnome live CD [07:12] well they are complaining they dont like xfce [07:13] yea [07:13] What is there not to like? [07:13] I lvoe it. [07:13] love* [07:13] yea I've used it myself and like it [07:13] but I like gnome-classic more [07:13] Alright, suit yourself [07:13] but I'd use xubuntu on old PC's [07:13] just dont use any old pc's thses days [07:14] GeekAdmin: I'd not know if the apt-get command works or not without a PPA - but if it's there then try it [07:14] It works on regular ubuntu [07:14] 12.04 [07:15] when in unity [07:15] you can run: [07:15] sudo apt-get install gnome-shell [07:15] without PPA [07:15] :-) [07:15] sorry. I have a bad habit of writing on multiple lines. [07:15] some1 know, how to change transparent of menu? [07:15] We will now kill you for that. [07:16] Main Menu :P [07:17] GeekAdmin: then go ahead and get them to try it [07:31] how is linux-generic different form linux-image-generic? [07:58] linux-generic is dependent upon linux-image-generic [07:59] And what does that mean? [08:18] Silent, they're just metapackages, ensuring you get the right things when you install "linux-generic". don't worry about that. [08:19] Alright, thank you [08:24] hi [08:24] i would like to edit the available desktop list in lightdm, how to do that? [08:25] I would like to install another window manger and hide xfce [08:32] Guys, how do I check if I have python installed? [08:34] sameer, apt-cache policy python [08:35] sameer, but you very likely do [08:37] knome: Thanks. I have 2.7.3 installed. How do I update it to 3.*? === sameer is now known as ffs82defxp === ffs82defxp is now known as sameer === sameer is now known as ffs82defxp [08:55] Guys, what do I do to fix this? [08:55] E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [08:56] guys how do I autologin another windowmanager, ie. icewm? [08:56] I have been struggling with this for 2 days [08:58] ffs82defxp: are you sure there is no program open that uses that, synaptic/software center/on-going apt-get etc? [08:59] yes, synaptic is open [08:59] Oh [08:59] laite: What is the var folder for? [09:00] anyone? [09:00] to be honest, I don't really know - I would guess it has something to do with operating system run-variables, but don't take my word for it :) [09:01] ffs82defxp: have a look here http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html [09:01] http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/linux-file-system-structure/ [09:02] though we have a /run now as well [09:03] it: were you doboc yesterday - if so - I kept looking, but got nowhere [09:03] hobgoblin, yes it is me [09:03] k [09:04] an alternative idea would be to edit lightdm sessions and just leave icewm there [09:04] do you know how to do that? [09:05] I only know the /etc/lightdm files [09:06] so anyone know how to edit the sessions in lightdm? [09:07] it: qith a quick look in /usr/share/xsessions they seem to be quite plain .desktop-files [09:07] *with [09:08] take a look on xfce.desktop, for example, and change 'startxfce4' to whatever you'd like to start instead of it [09:10] ok thx [09:34] Guys, does a workspace automatically close all its programs after some time of no use? [09:35] nevermind [09:47] Hello [09:49] !hi | Papa-Smurf [09:50] Papa-Smurf: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [11:05] I have amd64 Java and x86_64 Firefox installed, but Firefox won't recognize libnpjp2.so as a plugin. [11:06] Should I be using i386 Java or could something else be the problem? [11:08] mine java x64 is working [11:08] have you installed the mozilla plugin? [11:09] sun-java6-plugin [11:09] I installed Java 7 to /usr/lib/jvm. [11:09] java -version works at least. [11:11] Oracle Java 7, if it matters. [11:12] have you updatet the "update-alternatives" ? [11:12] SDX: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56104/how-can-i-install-oracle-java-jre-7 [11:12] that should help [11:14] I ran "sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_05/bin/java 3" now. [11:15] No. Still nothing. [11:15] SDX, did you look at 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' if 3 is the right choice? [11:16] There's nothing to configure. I only have one version of Java. [11:17] "There is only one alternative in link group java: /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_05/bin/java Nothing to configure." [11:24] hi [11:24] hullo [11:24] what the good server in liunkx [11:25] what do you mean by 'good server in linux' ? [11:26] zentyal server [11:26] is good [11:26] do you have a support question about xubuntu? [11:26] no [11:27] in that case, #xubuntu-offtopic is the channel for offtopic chatter [11:27] ? [11:28] it is support xubuntu [11:28] what's your native language? there's probably help with that language too if it'd be easier for you [11:29] arabic [11:29] !arabic | sari [11:29] sari: For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية [11:30] هاي [11:30] i suppose that meant "thanks" [11:31] hope so ... :) [11:32] at least he left just after - so not a big problem if it didn't [11:32] to answer my own question: I just renamed the xubuntu.desktop and xfce.desktop and this way icewm can load by default with autologin [11:32] it: renamed to what? [11:33] just put a dot in front of them [11:33] I can't seem to get the Java plugin for Firefox to work. Creating a symlink to libnpjp.so in ~/.mozilla/plugins didn't work. [11:33] it: ok cool - thanks - so you just have the icewm.desktop in there an referenced in lightdm and it works? [11:34] well I think it only works because it ca not find xfce [11:34] but otherwise it did not [11:34] oh right [11:34] if I left the mentioned files there [11:34] I shall talk to someone about this though when I can [11:35] I know who :) [11:35] it may be bug in lightdm [11:35] very annoying though [11:35] report it then :) [11:36] please do it for me [11:36] i have lots of work to do [11:36] ... [11:36] :) [11:36] maybe later [11:39] I'll do it then. [11:39] thanks a lot [11:39] I am in a high school and it is the end of the school year [11:39] you can go and +1 it though [11:39] what do you mean? [11:39] oh, the report? [11:40] yea [11:40] ok just send me the link [11:41] oh problem [11:41] it autoloded but let the user log out [11:42] then I can still select another session [11:46] it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1013129 - click the Affects you thing :) [11:46] Launchpad bug 1013129 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Changing user session does not work" [Undecided,New] [11:58] Здравствуйте. Здесь есть русскоязычные? [11:58] !ru | user [11:59] user: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [11:59] thanks [11:59] yes indeed hes from russia :) [11:59] :) [11:59] was unsure so i checkd first :P [11:59] so did I :) [12:01] hmm so im to slow :( [12:04] baizon: only this time :) [12:05] Hi [12:05] I am trying to install xubuntu on to a new HD [12:05] I think it's not being marked bootable [12:06] if I only leave the new HD connected after the installer prompts to restart, i never see grub [12:07] that was fast [12:07] yep - gone to the #xubuntupyschic I think [12:25] it: I think I've found it - lightdm remembers your last session it seems - so if you had logged into icewm and then rebooted - it would have gone to icewm [12:28] hobgoblin, I have to find another solution until the bug is fixed [12:30] yeah: deleted both files related to xfce and xubuntu. desktop [12:30] now only icewm entries are in lightdm [12:33] I did it here - set fluxbox as default, logged out and then logged into fluxbox - reboots into fluxbox [12:33] just a sec [12:36] what did you do exactly? [12:37] set the default in /etc/lighdm/lightdm.conf (though I'm not sure you need to) logged out, then logged back into the fluxbox session - then rebooted from there [12:38] when it rebooted - it went to fluxbox and not xubuntu [12:38] so you did not deleted the .desktop files [12:39] nope [12:39] strange [12:41] funny that mine does not autologin now when lightdm only has icewm and I also set lightdm.conf [12:43] I do not understand this: how come yours works and mine does not [12:46] I don't know - but I didn't rename the desktop files though [12:46] I gtg for a bit now [12:53] How would I go about replacing PulseAudio with ALSA? [12:58] I've been informed that ALSA depends on PulseAudio. [13:10] Hello, I was wondering if anyone would know how to bring back the Dock panel; It is the one that sits at the bottom. I tried just making a new one, but the program icons are placed all the way to the left, instead of center. [13:13] Hello. [13:14] lopan, add a 'separator' and make it expand [13:16] How can I use Xfce's Mixer to adjust my volume instead of PulseAudio's Volume Control? [13:17] What is the (safe) way of adding a user under XUbuntu 12.04 and makes use of an already existing /home/username/ ? [13:18] * Solak used the upgrade option from KUbuntu 10.04 -> XUbuntu 12.04 that preserves the user data. [13:19] for one account I followed the normal install-procedure, but I want to make the system aware of the other account too. [13:19] Copying all of the files from the old user's home folder to the new one wouldn't work? [13:19] knome, perfect, thanks! [13:21] "cp -r /home/olduser/* ~" would do it with one command. [13:22] "How can I use Xfce's Mixer to adjust my volume instead of PulseAudio's Volume Control?" Anyone? [13:23] It's one of the things I loved about Debian Stable. :/ [13:23] SDX: yes, but that requires root privileges. Under Debian I just did 'su' -> pwd, ready... XUbuntu is different with sudo... [13:24] SDX: since the system isn't aware of the user I can't login as that user. [13:24] I guess even root wouldn't work... [13:25] You can log in as root under Xubuntu if you use "sudo passwd" to set a password for the root account. [13:25] * Solak makes a note :) thanks. [13:25] it's not recommended tho [13:26] no. [13:26] and logging in as root in GUI is generally asking for trouble [13:26] but in this case I'm not sure... at least I'm not aware of another method, unless 'add user' in xfce keeps the folder with user data... [13:27] but I have a bad feeling that's not the case. [13:44] Myrtti: login as root and running a gui is, certainly in this case, not necessary. [13:44] Myrtti: I think 'adduser' can be used with an option to keep the user-map in /home. [13:45] Myrtti: that would probably be the best way, because console login as root might not work either. [14:13] has anyone got rabbitvcs-thunar plugin working from rabbitvcs-ppa? [14:32] anybody home? [14:32] yes [14:32] lots [14:32] sweet [14:33] I'd not say that - but you don't know me [14:33] So I'm trying to make xubuntu 12.04 run encfs 1.7, but it only wants to let me get 1.5 from the repo... [14:34] I run into dependancy hell when trying to add the package manually [14:35] it all ends in the installed libc6-i686 conflict with the newer package [14:35] and wont update [14:35] any ideas? [14:36] I am having a problem with my keyboard, it is not being recognized by grub or at boot to select bios. This happened after I updated xububtu and restarted to allow the changes to be made. Have tried to google, however I only get legacy usb errors which do not pertain to me as I am on a laptop. Anyone know what did this? [14:36] @sourcooki, you might try changing the setting in your bios about usb keyboard support [14:37] I cannot access it, i am on a laptop and the bios is not recognizing my key presses [14:38] Oh in that case you'll have to plug in a keyboard to get into it... But at any rate if it's not reading the keyboard at boot then it's something in the bios and not the OS [14:39] Well it happened right after I updated xubuntu [14:39] Thats really strange... it may have changed your bios setting, but I dont know why it would have [14:41] Agreed, the only visual clue i got was that grub was with a black background not the slightly purpleish one that comes when you install it from ubuntu [14:47] So if I need to upgrade my libc6 to use EncFS I might as well just switch to a distro that has it already, rather than try to recompile everything? [14:50] Ok yea this channel is bumming me out... [14:50] ? [14:50] im using encfs [14:50] and i dont have to compile [14:50] ehh :( [15:02] sedding Xubuntu 12.04, any tracker I should add? === epzil0n is now known as Guest31249 [15:32] how do I join 3 pdf documents into one in an specific order? [15:33] if offtopic, please tell me a channel in which I should ask [15:33] martinphone: i just use libreoffice.. import whatever into the doc, order them.. and export as pdf [15:34] holstein, i though of that, but that will surely put in disarray all the pictures I have [15:34] it will put them in whatever array you choose [15:34] in the case were i had pdf's, i just made them images, maybe by printing them, and imported the images into what was then openoffice, ordered them.. and exported as pdf [15:35] im sure i could have come up with a quicker, easier way, but i just needed something done real quick, and knocked it out that wat [15:35] way* [15:36] me too, 2 hours to deadline [15:38] didnt take me 2 hours... [15:38] lol i guess it didnt [15:38] I mean I have 15 minutes to think of another way of doing it [15:40] if you want to re-order a pdf, and you dont/cant ask the content creator, you can make the pages images, and import the images into libreoffice.. order them and export to pdf... i *know* that works [15:42] can I do that with document viewer? [15:43] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993370 [15:45] Is there a way to remove the mail icon from the indicator plugin? [15:45] SDX: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65858/how-to-remove-the-mail-icon-indicator-applet [15:46] SDX: or http://askubuntu.com/questions/66134/remove-mail-menu-from-indicator-messages [15:46] Thank you. [15:46] np [15:47] ? Sorry. The administrator has banned your IP address. To contact the administrator click here [15:47] for ubuntuforums [15:48] hi martinphone - good job I'm floating about then - what's your username there [15:48] lol, letme remember [15:48] its been months [15:49] not that I'll be unbanning it - but I can look and tell you what to do :) [15:49] hihihi100 I believe [15:49] ok [15:51] account looks ok martinphone [15:51] pdftk? [15:51] will that merge pdf files? [15:51] thx hobgoblin [15:51] then is the tor exit node [15:52] martinphone: you'll have to e-mail the forum council/admins here ubuntu-forums-council@lists.ubuntu.com [15:52] are hobgoblins like trolls? [15:52] aah if it was a tor exit node - we had some trouble I think - spam accounts [15:52] ill wait till tor changes its exit node, if that doesnt work, ill do what you posted [15:53] spam in the forums? [15:53] martinphone: this one is except when he has his helpful head on [15:53] lol [15:53] not funny really - we spend hours getting rid of it [15:53] anyway - enough of that :) [15:54] the lol was for your troll commentary [15:54] not commentary, but line [15:54] I'm installing xubuntu 12.04 for a friend on a dell inspiron 600m, the install went fine, but when xubuntu tries to load it freezes at the splash screen, any ideas? [15:54] martinphone: oic :) [15:56] help, I have installed PDFTK from repo and I dont find any launch icon, nor alt+f2 pdftk open anything === m00se is now known as m00die === m00die is now known as m00se === m00se is now known as m00die [16:49] I just installed xubuntu 12.04 along with windows, but when I reboot the laptop windows starts automatically without displaying grub === m00die is now known as m002D2 === m002D2 is now known as m00se [17:35] kondi: do these answers help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/131827/no-boot-option-after-ubuntu-install [17:35] I'll take a look [17:36] If not, there is a list of "Related" questions and answers on the right hand side of that page. One of them will have the answer. [17:38] Thanks I'll try it. [17:56] i still need advice with pdftk [17:56] installed from repo, no access icon [17:56] alt+f2 pdftk doesnt do anything [17:56] is it command line only? [17:57] You could try "man pdftk" in a terminal to find out. [17:58] or even pdftk [17:58] yep cli - pdftk --help [18:00] martinphone: http://www.pdflabs.com/tools/pdftk-the-pdf-toolkit/ [18:00] http://www.paehl.de/pdf/gui_pdftk.html [18:01] gui looks really old though [18:01] hey, is it dangerous to use alien to install rpm's? [18:02] That depends on what package you plan to install. [18:02] If you're just putting GIMP through, I can't imagine it would cause a crash. [18:03] If you try to convert something like GCC through alien, though... [18:04] yeah... i found a few games that are rpm's and cant find any deb files for them. [18:06] Personally I'd sooner install from source with checkinstall than use alien to convert an RPM. [18:07] +1 [18:08] I didnt think of that... thanks Pici === cYmen_ is now known as cYmen [19:41] Hello, I'm trying to get an application to start on startup after a set amount of time (in seconds), is there any arguments I can add to the command to achieve this in XFCE 4.10? the application is Conky, if that helps at all. [19:44] c_smith: yes, i got a delay script [19:44] would the command I'm looking for be "wait"? [19:45] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1041307/ [19:45] just open leafpad [19:45] paste that what i posted [19:45] thanks, man! :D [19:45] edit the path [19:45] and add it into autostart :) [19:45] np [19:47] done, thanks for the tip. [19:47] :) === sameer is now known as ffs82defxp [21:25] Hi All, one of my users gets a command line screen after they log in, and wants the GUI screen instead. How does one tell xubuntu to start the GUI for the desktop (using the command line)? [21:27] maybe startx, or startxfce4?.. haven't looked it up, just guessing. [21:29] thanks Vlad, I tried startxfce4, but it gives errors like xxx already running on line 7, etc...... [21:29] kk :( [21:32] artie: you can do ctrl+alt+F7 to have a look at what is there [21:33] ok, will try well_, ty. I have to leave in order to try, brb. [21:52] well_laid, ctrl+alt+f7 did not work, other than to change the font sze while in the command line mode. [21:58] artie: seems strange [21:59] yes, I know the user was doing something in the recovery module, them couldn't get out of the text/command line mode later. [22:00] other than that, I on't have a clue::> [22:02] There is a circle icon with small starlike protrusions on the log in page, clicking on it allows one to select xfce4 session, user defined session, etc.....but none of thos make any difference. [22:03] I went into the recovery mode myself, and it never allowed me to leave, espite having an exit menu from the recovery console. [22:03]