[00:56] <phunyguy> hmmm... why does xchat ignore the color scheme of the rest of the GUI apps?
[01:12] <w30> ffs82defxp, did you get your work place switcher back?
[01:13] <ffs82defxp> yes.
[01:13] <ffs82defxp> w30: how do I make the workspace switcher take on a vertical orientation?
[01:13] <ffs82defxp> I put it onto a vertical panel
[01:13] <ffs82defxp> but it's still horizontal
[01:15] <w30> ffs82defxp, donno, I have never used a vertical panel.
[01:16] <ffs82defxp> I feel like the workspace switcher is too small just on the default panel..
[01:18] <w30> ffs82defxp, precisely because of having short horizontal space for names etc.
[02:25] <VaiCor> Anyone fix the vmware 8.0.3 virtual network device error on Xubuntu 12 ??
[02:26] <bazhang> VaiCor, tried asking in #vmware ?
[02:27] <VaiCor> good
[02:29] <phunyguy> I found where you can download XFCE themes on xfce-look.org, but are there any that are just pure color changes? Please help..
[03:01] <majnoon> what program xubuntu use to login ??
[03:06] <slowz> GUI? lightdm
[03:07] <majnoon> kk can look up how to xdmcp from it on net
[03:25] <majnoon> ok have xdmcp setup for incoming connections on desktop
[03:26] <majnoon> how do i set up xubuntu (on laptop) so can log on to desktop ??
[05:47] <Vermicelli> Could someone tell me about virtual packages? Trying to install through Ubuntu Software Center a game I bought on Humble Indie Bundle gives this:
[05:47] <Vermicelli> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:47] <Vermicelli> limbo: Depends: limbo-bin (= 1.0-0ubuntu4) but it is a virtual package
[06:14] <Vermicelli> Same with another. "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:14] <Vermicelli> psychonauts: Depends: psychonauts-bin (>= 1.2) but it is a virtual package
[06:14] <Vermicelli> "
[06:20] <laite> Vermicelli: how are you trting to install them? through ubuntu repository?
[06:21] <Vermicelli> Through Ubuntu SOftware Center.
[06:22] <laite> Hm, I had no problem with installing them but I downloaded packages from the site instead
[06:22] <laite> so sorry, can't really help with that :/
[06:22] <Vermicelli> I'll probably end up doign that, but it was made to look like this was the friendler way. :-P
[06:22] <Vermicelli> Thanks.
[06:23] <sameer> Guys, I noticed that the area in which the cursor changes and allows for the resizing of a window to happen (at the corner of a window) is rather small. I cannot quickly resize a window because of this. Is there something I can do about that?
[06:24] <Vermicelli> Change the window manager?
[06:25] <sameer> How do I do that
[06:25] <sameer> ?
[06:25] <laite> sameer: the 'preferable' way to do that is to hit crtl/alt and right mouse button at the same time
[06:25] <laite> can't remember which key it is by default, it's either one of them^
[06:25] <Vermicelli> menu-settings-settings manager- window manager
[06:26] <laite> sameer: you can change key in settings->window manager tweaks->accessibility
[06:26] <Vermicelli> Or that works. New to me. alt+rtclick
[06:31] <sameer> I like the shortcut, but you'd think the developers would've accounted for peoples lack of ability when it comes to being precise; especially when you are using a trackpad.
[06:48] <Silent> Hi :)
[06:50] <Silent> What's Xubuntu desktop?
[06:50] <hobgoblin> a distro using xfce
[06:50] <Silent> During the installation, when you are offered to select software packages.
[06:50] <Silent> No, I mean the package
[06:51] <hobgoblin> oic xubuntu-desktop
[06:51] <Silent> It asks me if I wanna install OpenSSH server, Mail server, Print server, Xubuntu desktop and Manual package selection
[06:51] <hobgoblin> install from where?
[06:52] <Silent> From the installer. It just finished configuring APT.
[06:52] <Silent> I'm installing Xubuntu alternative for 32bit
[06:52] <hobgoblin> oh right
[06:52] <hobgoblin> long time since I did that
[06:52] <hobgoblin> what's the actual question ?
[06:54] <Silent_> I'm sorry, firefox crashed.
[06:56] <Silent> So should I install xubuntu-desktop?
[06:56] <hobgoblin> Silent: if you are installing xubuntu then yes :)
[06:57] <Silent> Then why does it ask me?
[06:57] <Silent> I mean, that's why I'm installing Xubuntu after all.
[06:57] <well_laid_lawn> !alternate
[06:58] <hobgoblin> because it works differently than the livecd - you might not want to install xubuntu-dekstop but xfce or something
[06:58] <Silent> How is xubuntu-desktop different form xfce?
[07:00] <hobgoblin> xubuntu-desktop is xfce with specific things added/changed
[07:00] <Silent> Is there a place where I can read about it?
[07:01] <hobgoblin> http://xubuntu.org/
[07:01] <Silent> :\
[07:01] <Silent> Nevermind that for now. Installation doesn't seem to be working - it just fails every time it tries to download xubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <Silent> Is there a log?
[07:02] <hobgoblin> I don't know
[07:03] <Silent> I'll just reboot then.
[07:05] <Silent> What's faster, HTTP or FTP?
[07:05] <olbi> Silent, Torrent :D
[07:06] <hobgoblin> as long as there's a seed :)
[07:06] <Silent> lol
[07:06] <Silent> For Ubuntu mirrors.
[07:06] <Silent> Just HTTP and FTP for now as far as I can see
[07:07] <olbi> hobgoblin: yep :D
[07:08] <SandJ_II> For a single large file, FTP is faster that HTTP.
[07:08] <olbi> in Xubuntu 12.04 LTS Bluetooth has some errors, it was fixed?
[07:08] <olbi> because I didnt change distro for this reason :]
[07:09] <olbi> still have 11.10 and works great :]
[07:09] <olbi> w8ing for 12.10
[07:09] <Silent> Alright
[07:11] <GeekAdmin> hi
[07:11] <GeekAdmin> anyone around by chance ?
[07:11] <Silent> Yes
[07:11] <Silent> Why, are you FBI?
[07:11] <GeekAdmin> hi. I'm trying to convince someone to try gnome classic but they are using xubuntu.  if they run sudo apt-get install gnome-shell   will that be safe and best way?
[07:11] <GeekAdmin> lol
[07:12] <Silent> I'm sorry, I don't know
[07:12] <hobgoblin> I'd be more inclined to convince them that they should make their own mind up ...
[07:12] <GeekAdmin> haha
[07:12] <Silent> I'd just try some sort of Gnome live CD
[07:12] <GeekAdmin> well they are complaining they dont like xfce
[07:13] <GeekAdmin> yea
[07:13] <Silent> What is there not to like?
[07:13] <Silent> I lvoe it.
[07:13] <Silent> love*
[07:13] <GeekAdmin> yea I've used it myself and like it
[07:13] <GeekAdmin> but I like gnome-classic more
[07:13] <Silent> Alright, suit yourself
[07:13] <GeekAdmin> but I'd use xubuntu on old PC's
[07:13] <GeekAdmin> just dont use any old pc's thses days
[07:14] <hobgoblin> GeekAdmin: I'd not know if the apt-get command works or not without a PPA - but if it's there then try it
[07:14] <GeekAdmin> It works on regular ubuntu
[07:14] <GeekAdmin> 12.04
[07:15] <GeekAdmin> when in unity
[07:15] <GeekAdmin> you can run:
[07:15] <GeekAdmin> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[07:15] <GeekAdmin> without PPA
[07:15] <GeekAdmin> :-)
[07:15] <GeekAdmin> sorry. I have a bad habit of writing on multiple lines.
[07:15] <olbi> some1 know, how to change transparent of menu?
[07:15] <Silent> We will now kill you for that.
[07:16] <olbi> Main Menu :P
[07:17] <hobgoblin> GeekAdmin: then go ahead and get them to try it
[07:31] <Silent> how is linux-generic different form linux-image-generic?
[07:58] <SandJ_II> linux-generic is dependent upon linux-image-generic
[07:59] <Silent> And what does that mean?
[08:18] <knome> Silent, they're just metapackages, ensuring you get the right things when you install "linux-generic". don't worry about that.
[08:19] <Silent> Alright, thank you
[08:24] <it> hi
[08:24] <it> i would like to edit the available desktop list in lightdm, how to do that?
[08:25] <it> I would like to install another window manger and hide xfce
[08:32] <sameer> Guys, how do I check if I have python installed?
[08:34] <knome> sameer, apt-cache policy python
[08:35] <knome> sameer, but you very likely do
[08:37] <sameer> knome: Thanks. I have 2.7.3 installed. How do I update it to 3.*?
[08:55] <ffs82defxp> Guys, what do I do to fix this?
[08:55] <ffs82defxp> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:56] <it> guys how do I autologin another windowmanager, ie. icewm?
[08:56] <it> I have been struggling with this for 2 days
[08:58] <laite> ffs82defxp: are you sure there is no program open that uses that, synaptic/software center/on-going apt-get etc?
[08:59] <ffs82defxp> yes, synaptic is open
[08:59] <ffs82defxp> Oh
[08:59] <ffs82defxp> laite: What is the var folder for?
[09:00] <it> anyone?
[09:00] <laite> to be honest, I don't really know - I would guess it has something to do with operating system run-variables, but don't take my word for it :)
[09:01] <hobgoblin> ffs82defxp: have a look here http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html
[09:01] <hobgoblin> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/linux-file-system-structure/
[09:02] <hobgoblin> though we have a /run now as well
[09:03] <hobgoblin> it: were you doboc yesterday - if so - I kept looking, but got nowhere
[09:03] <it> hobgoblin, yes it is me
[09:03] <hobgoblin> k
[09:04] <it> an alternative idea would be to edit lightdm sessions and just leave icewm there
[09:04] <it> do you know how to do that?
[09:05] <hobgoblin> I only know the /etc/lightdm files
[09:06] <it> so anyone know how to edit the sessions in lightdm?
[09:07] <laite> it: qith a quick look in /usr/share/xsessions they seem to be quite plain .desktop-files
[09:07] <laite> *with
[09:08] <laite> take a look on xfce.desktop, for example, and change 'startxfce4' to whatever you'd like to start instead of it
[09:10] <it> ok thx
[09:34] <ffs82defxp> Guys, does a workspace automatically close all its programs after some time of no use?
[09:35] <ffs82defxp> nevermind
[09:47] <Papa-Smurf> Hello
[09:49] <laite> !hi | Papa-Smurf
[11:05] <SDX> I have amd64 Java and x86_64 Firefox installed, but Firefox won't recognize libnpjp2.so as a plugin.
[11:06] <SDX> Should I be using i386 Java or could something else be the problem?
[11:08] <baizon> mine java x64 is working
[11:08] <baizon> have you installed the mozilla plugin?
[11:09] <baizon> sun-java6-plugin
[11:09] <SDX> I installed Java 7 to /usr/lib/jvm.
[11:09] <SDX> java -version works at least.
[11:11] <SDX> Oracle Java 7, if it matters.
[11:12] <baizon> have you updatet the "update-alternatives" ?
[11:12] <baizon> SDX: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56104/how-can-i-install-oracle-java-jre-7
[11:12] <baizon> that should help
[11:14] <SDX> I ran "sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_05/bin/java 3" now.
[11:15] <SDX> No.  Still nothing.
[11:15] <knome> SDX, did you look at 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' if 3 is the right choice?
[11:16] <SDX> There's nothing to configure.  I only have one version of Java.
[11:17] <SDX> "There is only one alternative in link group java: /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_05/bin/java  Nothing to configure."
[11:24] <sari> hi
[11:24] <knome> hullo
[11:24] <sari> what the good server in liunkx
[11:25] <knome> what do you mean by 'good server in linux' ?
[11:26] <sari> zentyal server
[11:26] <sari> is good
[11:26] <knome> do you have a support question about xubuntu?
[11:26] <sari> no
[11:27] <knome> in that case, #xubuntu-offtopic is the channel for offtopic chatter
[11:27] <sari> ?
[11:28] <sari> it is support xubuntu
[11:28] <knome> what's your native language? there's probably help with that language too if it'd be easier for you
[11:29] <sari> arabic
[11:29] <knome> !arabic | sari
[11:30] <sari> هاي
[11:30] <knome> i suppose that meant "thanks"
[11:31] <hobgoblin> hope so ... :)
[11:32] <knome> at least he left just after - so not a big problem if it didn't
[11:32] <it>  to answer my own question: I just renamed the xubuntu.desktop and xfce.desktop and this way icewm can load by default with autologin
[11:32] <hobgoblin> it: renamed to what?
[11:33] <it> just put a dot in front of them
[11:33] <SDX> I can't seem to get the Java plugin for Firefox to work.  Creating a symlink to libnpjp.so in ~/.mozilla/plugins didn't work.
[11:33] <hobgoblin> it: ok cool - thanks - so you just have the icewm.desktop in there an referenced in lightdm and it works?
[11:34] <it> well I think it only works because it ca not find xfce
[11:34] <it> but otherwise it did not
[11:34] <hobgoblin> oh right
[11:34] <it> if I left the mentioned files there
[11:34] <hobgoblin> I shall talk to someone about this though when I can
[11:35] <hobgoblin> I know who :)
[11:35] <it> it may be bug in lightdm
[11:35] <it> very annoying though
[11:35] <hobgoblin> report it then :)
[11:36] <it> please do it for me
[11:36] <it> i have lots of work to do
[11:36] <hobgoblin> ...
[11:36] <it> :)
[11:36] <it> maybe later
[11:39] <hobgoblin> I'll do it then.
[11:39] <it> thanks a lot
[11:39] <it> I am in a high school and it is the end of the school year
[11:39] <hobgoblin> you can go and +1 it though
[11:39] <it> what do you mean?
[11:39] <it> oh, the report?
[11:40] <hobgoblin> yea
[11:40] <it> ok just send me the link
[11:41] <it> oh problem
[11:41] <it> it autoloded but let the user log out
[11:42] <it> then I can still select another session
[11:46] <hobgoblin> it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1013129 - click the Affects you thing :)
[11:58] <user> Здравствуйте. Здесь есть русскоязычные?
[11:58] <hobgoblin> !ru | user
[11:59] <user> thanks
[11:59] <baizon> yes indeed hes from russia :)
[11:59] <hobgoblin> :)
[11:59] <baizon> was unsure so i checkd first :P
[11:59] <hobgoblin> so did I :)
[12:01] <baizon> hmm so im to slow :(
[12:04] <hobgoblin> baizon: only this time :)
[12:05] <nothingmuch> Hi
[12:05] <nothingmuch> I am trying to install xubuntu on to a new HD
[12:05] <nothingmuch> I think it's not being marked bootable
[12:06] <nothingmuch> if I only leave the new HD connected after the installer prompts to restart, i never see grub
[12:07] <baizon> that was fast
[12:07] <hobgoblin> yep - gone to the #xubuntupyschic I think
[12:25] <hobgoblin> it: I think I've found it - lightdm remembers your last session it seems - so if you had logged into icewm and then rebooted - it would have gone to icewm
[12:28] <it_> hobgoblin, I have to find another solution until the bug is fixed
[12:30] <it_> yeah: deleted both files related to xfce and xubuntu. desktop
[12:30] <it_> now only icewm entries are in lightdm
[12:33] <hobgoblin> I did it here - set fluxbox as default, logged out and then logged into fluxbox - reboots into fluxbox
[12:33] <it_> just a sec
[12:36] <it_> what did you do exactly?
[12:37] <hobgoblin> set the default in /etc/lighdm/lightdm.conf (though I'm not sure you need to) logged out, then logged back into the fluxbox session - then rebooted from there
[12:38] <hobgoblin> when it rebooted - it went to fluxbox and not xubuntu
[12:38] <it_> so you did not deleted the .desktop files
[12:39] <hobgoblin> nope
[12:39] <it_> strange
[12:41] <it_> funny that mine does not autologin now when lightdm only has icewm and I also set lightdm.conf
[12:43] <it_> I do not understand this: how come yours works and mine does not
[12:46] <hobgoblin> I don't know - but I didn't rename the desktop files though
[12:46] <hobgoblin> I gtg for a bit now
[12:53] <SDX> How would I go about replacing PulseAudio with ALSA?
[12:58] <SDX> I've been informed that ALSA depends on PulseAudio.
[13:10] <lopan> Hello, I was wondering if anyone would know how to bring back the Dock panel; It is the one that sits at the bottom. I tried just making a new one, but the program icons are placed all the way to the left, instead of center.
[13:13] <Solak> Hello.
[13:14] <knome> lopan, add a 'separator' and make it expand
[13:16] <SDX> How can I use Xfce's Mixer to adjust my volume instead of PulseAudio's Volume Control?
[13:17] <Solak> What is the (safe) way of adding a user under XUbuntu 12.04 and makes use of an already existing /home/username/ ?
[13:18]  * Solak used the upgrade option from KUbuntu 10.04 -> XUbuntu 12.04 that preserves the user data.
[13:19] <Solak> for one account I followed the normal install-procedure, but I want to make the system aware of the other account too.
[13:19] <SDX> Copying all of the files from the old user's home folder to the new one wouldn't work?
[13:19] <lopan> knome, perfect, thanks!
[13:21] <SDX> "cp -r /home/olduser/* ~" would do it with one command.
[13:22] <SDX> "How can I use Xfce's Mixer to adjust my volume instead of PulseAudio's Volume Control?" Anyone?
[13:23] <SDX> It's one of the things I loved about Debian Stable.  :/
[13:23] <Solak> SDX: yes, but that requires root privileges. Under Debian I just did 'su' -> pwd, ready... XUbuntu is different with sudo...
[13:24] <Solak> SDX: since the system isn't aware of the user I can't login as that user.
[13:24] <Solak> I guess even root wouldn't work...
[13:25] <SDX> You can log in as root under Xubuntu if you use "sudo passwd" to set a password for the root account.
[13:25]  * Solak makes a note :) thanks.
[13:25] <Myrtti> it's not recommended tho
[13:26] <Solak> no.
[13:26] <Myrtti> and logging in as root in GUI is generally asking for trouble
[13:26] <Solak> but in this case I'm not sure... at least I'm not aware of another method, unless 'add user' in xfce keeps the folder with user data...
[13:27] <Solak> but I have a bad feeling that's not the case.
[13:44] <Solak> Myrtti: login as root and running a gui is, certainly in this case, not necessary.
[13:44] <Solak> Myrtti: I think 'adduser' can be used with an option to keep the user-map in /home.
[13:45] <Solak> Myrtti: that would probably be the best way, because console login as root might not work either.
[14:13] <purch> has anyone got rabbitvcs-thunar plugin working from rabbitvcs-ppa?
[14:32] <abominabledrunk> anybody home?
[14:32] <bazhang> yes
[14:32] <hobgoblin> lots
[14:32] <abominabledrunk> sweet
[14:33] <hobgoblin> I'd not say that - but you don't know me
[14:33] <abominabledrunk> So I'm trying to make xubuntu 12.04 run encfs 1.7, but it only wants to let me get 1.5 from the repo...
[14:34] <abominabledrunk> I run into dependancy hell when trying to add the package manually
[14:35] <abominabledrunk> it all ends in the installed libc6-i686 conflict with the newer package
[14:35] <abominabledrunk> and wont update
[14:35] <abominabledrunk> any ideas?
[14:36] <sourcooki>  I am having a problem with my keyboard, it is not being recognized by grub or at boot to select bios. This happened after I updated xububtu and restarted to allow the changes to be made. Have tried to google, however I only get legacy usb errors which do not pertain to me as I am on a laptop. Anyone know what did this?
[14:36] <abominabledrunk> @sourcooki, you might try changing the setting in your bios about usb keyboard support
[14:37] <sourcooki> I cannot access it, i am on a laptop and the bios is not recognizing my key presses
[14:38] <abominabledrunk> Oh in that case you'll have to plug in a keyboard to get into it... But at any rate if it's not reading the keyboard at boot then it's something in the bios and not the OS
[14:39] <sourcooki> Well it happened right after I updated xubuntu
[14:39] <abominabledrunk> Thats really strange... it may have changed your bios setting, but I dont know why it would have
[14:41] <sourcooki> Agreed, the only visual clue i got was that grub was with a black background not the slightly purpleish one that comes when you install it from ubuntu
[14:47] <abominabledrunk> So if I need to upgrade my libc6 to use EncFS I might as well just switch to a distro that has it already, rather than try to recompile everything?
[14:50] <abominabledrunk> Ok yea this channel is bumming me out...
[14:50] <baizon> ?
[14:50] <baizon> im using encfs
[14:50] <baizon> and i dont have to compile
[14:50] <baizon> ehh :(
[15:02] <blackgatocatnegr> sedding  Xubuntu 12.04, any tracker I should add?
[15:32] <martinphone> how do I join 3 pdf documents into one in an specific order?
[15:33] <martinphone> if offtopic, please tell me a channel in which I should ask
[15:33] <holstein> martinphone: i just use libreoffice.. import whatever into the doc, order them.. and export as pdf
[15:34] <martinphone> holstein, i though of that, but that will surely put in disarray all the pictures I have
[15:34] <holstein> it will put them in whatever array you choose
[15:34] <holstein> in the case were i had pdf's, i just made them images, maybe by printing them, and imported the images into what was then openoffice, ordered them.. and exported as pdf
[15:35] <holstein> im sure i could have come up with a quicker, easier way, but i just needed something done real quick, and knocked it out that wat
[15:35] <holstein> way*
[15:36] <martinphone> me too, 2 hours to deadline
[15:38] <holstein> didnt take me 2 hours...
[15:38] <martinphone> lol i guess it didnt
[15:38] <martinphone> I mean I have 15 minutes to think of another way of doing it
[15:40] <holstein> if you want to re-order a pdf, and you dont/cant ask the content creator, you can make the pages images, and import the images into libreoffice.. order them and export to pdf... i *know* that works
[15:42] <martinphone> can I do that with document viewer?
[15:43] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993370
[15:45] <SDX> Is there a way to remove the mail icon from the indicator plugin?
[15:45] <baizon> SDX: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65858/how-to-remove-the-mail-icon-indicator-applet
[15:46] <baizon> SDX: or http://askubuntu.com/questions/66134/remove-mail-menu-from-indicator-messages
[15:46] <SDX> Thank you.
[15:46] <baizon> np
[15:47] <martinphone> ? Sorry. The administrator has banned your IP address. To contact the administrator click here
[15:47] <martinphone> for ubuntuforums
[15:48] <hobgoblin> hi martinphone - good job I'm floating about then - what's your username there
[15:48] <martinphone> lol, letme remember
[15:48] <martinphone> its been months
[15:49] <hobgoblin> not that I'll be unbanning it - but I can look and tell you what to do :)
[15:49] <martinphone> hihihi100 I believe
[15:49] <martinphone> ok
[15:51] <hobgoblin> account looks ok martinphone
[15:51] <martinphone> pdftk?
[15:51] <martinphone> will that merge pdf files?
[15:51] <martinphone> thx hobgoblin
[15:51] <martinphone> then is the tor exit node
[15:52] <hobgoblin> martinphone: you'll have to e-mail the forum council/admins here ubuntu-forums-council@lists.ubuntu.com
[15:52] <martinphone> are hobgoblins like trolls?
[15:52] <hobgoblin> aah if it was a tor exit node - we had some trouble I think - spam accounts
[15:52] <martinphone> ill wait till tor changes its exit node, if that doesnt work, ill do what you posted
[15:53] <martinphone> spam in the forums?
[15:53] <hobgoblin> martinphone: this one is except when he has his helpful head on
[15:53] <martinphone> lol
[15:53] <hobgoblin> not funny really - we spend hours getting rid of it
[15:53] <hobgoblin> anyway - enough of that :)
[15:54] <martinphone> the lol was for your troll commentary
[15:54] <martinphone> not commentary, but line
[15:54] <xubuntu232> I'm installing xubuntu 12.04 for a friend on a dell inspiron 600m, the install went fine, but when xubuntu tries to load it freezes at the splash screen, any ideas?
[15:54] <hobgoblin> martinphone: oic :)
[15:56] <martinphone> help, I have installed PDFTK from repo and I dont find any launch icon, nor alt+f2 pdftk open anything
[16:49] <kondi> I just installed xubuntu 12.04 along with windows, but when I reboot the laptop windows starts automatically without displaying grub
[17:35] <SandJ_II> kondi: do these answers help?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/131827/no-boot-option-after-ubuntu-install
[17:35] <kondi> I'll take a look
[17:36] <SandJ_II> If not, there is a list of "Related" questions and answers on the right hand side of that page.  One of them will have the answer.
[17:38] <kondi> Thanks I'll try it.
[17:56] <martinphone> i still need advice with pdftk
[17:56] <martinphone> installed from repo, no access icon
[17:56] <martinphone> alt+f2 pdftk doesnt do anything
[17:56] <martinphone> is it command line only?
[17:57] <SDX> You could try "man pdftk" in a terminal to find out.
[17:58] <hobgoblin> or even pdftk
[17:58] <hobgoblin> yep cli - pdftk --help
[18:00] <hobgoblin> martinphone: http://www.pdflabs.com/tools/pdftk-the-pdf-toolkit/
[18:00] <hobgoblin> http://www.paehl.de/pdf/gui_pdftk.html
[18:01] <hobgoblin> gui looks really old though
[18:01] <ben1234> hey, is it dangerous to use alien to install rpm's?
[18:02] <SDX> That depends on what package you plan to install.
[18:02] <SDX> If you're just putting GIMP through, I can't imagine it would cause a crash.
[18:03] <SDX> If you try to convert something like GCC through alien, though...
[18:04] <ben1234> yeah... i found a few games that are rpm's and cant find any deb files for them.
[18:06] <Pici> Personally I'd sooner install from source with checkinstall than use alien to convert an RPM.
[18:07] <hobgoblin> +1
[18:08] <ben1234> I didnt think of that... thanks Pici
[19:41] <c_smith> Hello, I'm trying to get an application to start on startup after a set amount of time (in seconds), is there any arguments I can add to the command to achieve this in XFCE 4.10? the application is Conky, if that helps at all.
[19:44] <baizon> c_smith: yes, i got a delay script
[19:44] <c_smith> would the command I'm looking for be "wait"?
[19:45] <baizon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1041307/
[19:45] <baizon> just open leafpad
[19:45] <baizon> paste that what i posted
[19:45] <c_smith> thanks, man! :D
[19:45] <baizon> edit the path
[19:45] <baizon> and add it into autostart :)
[19:45] <baizon> np
[19:47] <c_smith> done, thanks for the tip.
[19:47] <baizon> :)
[21:25] <artie> Hi All, one of my users gets a command line screen after they log in, and wants the GUI screen instead. How does one tell xubuntu to start the GUI for the desktop (using the command line)?
[21:27] <v1adimir> maybe startx, or startxfce4?.. haven't looked it up, just guessing.
[21:29] <artie> thanks Vlad, I tried startxfce4, but it gives errors like xxx already running on line 7, etc......
[21:29] <v1adimir> kk :(
[21:32] <well_laid_lawn> artie: you can do ctrl+alt+F7 to have a look at what is there
[21:33] <artie> ok, will try well_, ty. I have to leave in order to try, brb.
[21:52] <artie> well_laid, ctrl+alt+f7 did not work, other than to change the font sze while in the command line mode.
[21:58] <well_laid_lawn> artie: seems strange
[21:59] <artie> yes, I know the user was doing something in the recovery module, them couldn't get out of the text/command line mode later.
[22:00] <artie> other than that, I on't have a clue::>
[22:02] <artie> There is a circle icon with small starlike protrusions on the log in page, clicking on it allows one to select xfce4 session, user defined session, etc.....but none of thos make any difference.
[22:03] <artie> I went into the recovery mode myself, and it never allowed me to leave, espite having an exit menu from the recovery console.
[22:03] <artie> I'
[22:03] <artie> m really stuck::>
[22:05] <well_laid_lawn> sounds like the lightdm conf isn't right - has it always been like this?
[22:05] <artie> I guess I need to figure out how to get his data files off his desktop, so he can log in as a differenct user andstill have his data.
[22:06] <artie> no, it's been working fine for a long time, then it just went bad. All other users work normally.
[22:06] <well_laid_lawn> !lightdm
[22:07] <well_laid_lawn> !info lightdm
[22:07] <artie> it is an encrypted user, but he has his passcode and can open files on his desktop from the command line....so, excryption is not likely a problem.
[23:34] <Edwardf414> Any new user channels?
[23:34] <knome> hum?