| mars | SpamapS, alright. I need to sign off. Thanks for looking at my problem. I'll watch the bug for a fix that I can test. | 00:03 |
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| SpamapS | mars: should be soon I think. :) | 00:05 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, back | 00:35 |
| hazmat | there are some pyzk bugs with fixes in trunk that haven't been backported / packaged but nothing relatable | 00:36 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: seems odd that after a while it would go from lazy polling to furious reconnecting | 00:37 |
| hazmat | mars, is zookeeper running? | 00:37 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: anyway, I say we just stop trying to start agents that will never work | 00:37 |
| hazmat | ps aux | grep java | 00:37 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: the whole point is that zk is not running | 00:37 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, so two options make local envs survive restarts, or remove upstarts for all of them | 00:37 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: well I'd like them to survieve | 00:45 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: seems that we'd need to re-start zookeeper and it would work | 00:45 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: oh, and the containers. ;) | 00:46 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: either way, the half-done bit needs to go | 00:46 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: I say remove the start stuff until we can get around to finishing the feature | 00:46 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, sounds good to me | 00:48 |
| surgemcgee | Well, running 6 m1.small instances got a little pricey. I have two large amazon bills. Ahhhhh =:s | 00:54 |
| surgemcgee | I blame that on you guys. Need to put the handy constraints options more close to the front of the documentation. | 00:55 |
| SpamapS | surgemcgee: I topped $200 this past month, and thats just from testing stuff for 1 - 2 days at a time ;) | 00:57 |
| SpamapS | surgemcgee: constraints only landed about 2 months ago.. so.. before that you just had to eat it. ;) | 00:57 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1013469 was filed: Reactor issues (should switch to solar) <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013469 > | 03:17 |
| twobottux | aujuju: What is the correct way to set config options to a juju service unit with a file? <http://askubuntu.com/questions/151075/what-is-the-correct-way-to-set-config-options-to-a-juju-service-unit-with-a-file> | 03:30 |
| twobottux | aujuju: Can't get juju to deploy, problem with ec2 keypair? <http://askubuntu.com/questions/151088/cant-get-juju-to-deploy-problem-with-ec2-keypair> | 04:53 |
| * negronjl is done for the night | 06:41 | |
| imbrandon | night | 06:41 |
| * imbrandon just got done with the second round of updates for the doc theme | 06:42 | |
| rogpeppe | what's a good idiom for detecting when all my relations have been joined? store the joined status in a file? | 07:19 |
| imbrandon | relations can be joined at any time, even weeks after a deployment when new nodes or services are added | 07:21 |
| rogpeppe | imbrandon: what if i depend on those relations, so i need them to be fulfilled before i can proceed? | 07:25 |
| rogpeppe | imbrandon: i guess i'm wondering if there's some way of querying the status of the other relations while within a relation-joined hook | 07:27 |
| imbrandon | then dont do anything until relation-joined | 07:28 |
| imbrandon | almsot every charm has something like that, e.g wordpress cant work without a db | 07:28 |
| imbrandon | so it waits for the mysql to join relation | 07:28 |
| rogpeppe | imbrandon: that's fine. but in this case i want to wait for *both* relations to be joined | 07:29 |
| rogpeppe | imbrandon: and i'm wondering what the idiomatic way to do that is | 07:30 |
| imbrandon | ok so do some setup in one and some in the other and make them inter depend | 07:30 |
| rogpeppe | imbrandon: by storing state in a file? | 07:30 |
| rogpeppe | imbrandon: or is there some other way to track local state? | 07:31 |
| imbrandon | could be that or checking for a file that only exists on setup, like a settings.php | 07:31 |
| imbrandon | config-set would be an option but it has not be coded yet :) | 07:32 |
| rogpeppe | imbrandon: i'm not sure that config-set is quite what i'm after, as that's global to the service, but this is something local to the unit | 07:33 |
| rogpeppe | config-set --local, perhaps | 07:34 |
| rogpeppe | imbrandon: BTW i'm not quite sure what you mean by "checking for a file that only exists on setup, like a settings.php" | 07:34 |
| imbrandon | umm so i am wordpress, i need a webserver and i need a db | 07:34 |
| rogpeppe | imbrandon: the other end of the relation is remote, right? so there won't be any associated files. | 07:34 |
| imbrandon | so i setup myself on www when i get the ww relation | 07:35 |
| imbrandon | but ther eis no settings file as that is made by the db relation | 07:35 |
| imbrandon | so i know its not be setup yet by [[ -t /pth/to/settings.php ]] | 07:35 |
| imbrandon | and can wait till next relation fires | 07:35 |
| rogpeppe | imbrandon: ah, so you're tracking which relations have been joined by which files you've created. i see. | 07:36 |
| rogpeppe | imbrandon: and then in both relation-joined hooks you test for both files and start the service if they exist. | 07:36 |
| imbrandon | not really cuz very rearely do i reeally care, i'll set up the relation regaurdless of the other state | 07:36 |
| imbrandon | the charm wont work untill they all come about anyhow :) | 07:37 |
| imbrandon | but if i did care that would be the simplest way | 07:37 |
| rogpeppe | imbrandon: thanks a lot | 07:38 |
| imbrandon | np heh :) | 07:38 |
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| imbrandon | SpamapS: btw did mention i LOVE sphinx doc system, like it has some funky parts to work arround but for real, i even installed the PHP and JavaScript domain plugings to document my personal libs and such | 15:39 |
| m_3 | imbrandon: do you use trello mobile? jorge's recent change to ubuntu group borked my mobile boards | 15:55 |
| imbrandon | yea, but i havent logged into it in a few days | 15:56 |
| imbrandon | lemme check | 15:56 |
| imbrandon | ios right ? | 15:56 |
| m_3 | not sure if I'm just being dumb... yeah ios | 15:56 |
| imbrandon | ahh crap ipad is dead, i'll check it here in afew once it charges a lil | 15:56 |
| imbrandon | should only take a few min to charge enought to come on | 15:56 |
| m_3 | np.. no hurry... just wondering if I was the only one | 15:57 |
| * m_3 can also just rtfm :) | 15:57 | |
| imbrandon | heh yea, i actually leave that and mail clien up on my ipad alot | 15:57 |
| imbrandon | just sitting off to the side | 15:57 |
| negronjl | 'morning all | 15:57 |
| imbrandon | kinda nice to just thumb through but not have a tab | 15:57 |
| imbrandon | heya negronjl | 15:58 |
| m_3 | negronjl: yo | 15:58 |
| negronjl | 'morning imbrandon | 15:58 |
| negronjl | m_3: hi | 15:58 |
| m_3 | wish they had a native ipad version... that'd be really cool with trello | 15:58 |
| m_3 | visual layouts n stuff | 15:58 |
| imbrandon | yea, all the effect with the movement would be nice | 15:59 |
| imbrandon | like iphoto, well the new one | 15:59 |
| * m_3 nod | 15:59 | |
| imbrandon | i think this is thr first time i;ve charged this one since i got it | 16:00 |
| imbrandon | about a month ago ( the new 3, traded off my 2 ) | 16:00 |
| imbrandon | but honestly i can tell no diffrence at all, even with the retna display | 16:01 |
| imbrandon | seems ok here m_3 | 16:16 |
| m_3 | imbrandon: ok, thanks | 16:19 |
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| jcastro | SpamapS: hey clint, may I brainstorm an idea with you? | 17:36 |
| jcastro | have we thought about the equivalent of like a debian watch file? | 17:36 |
| jcastro | so we can test/know when a charm is out of date vs. upstream? | 17:36 |
| imbrandon | thats what i was tracking with the x-vcs , we could approve a metadata field easy enough for a upstream url and then have charm tools check it | 17:37 |
| imbrandon | like watch does, via the charm store too | 17:37 |
| imbrandon | like bts | 17:37 |
| SpamapS | jcastro: No we haven't throught about it, but I'd love to have something like it | 17:38 |
| SpamapS | And there is a discussion in Debian right now to add Vcs to watch files | 17:38 |
| hazmat | imbrandon, i'm starting to wonder if this sphinx bootstrap layout wouldn't be better (retains navigation tree) .. demo -> http://code.scotchmedia.com/engineauth/docs/index.html code -> | 17:39 |
| imbrandon | hazmat: yup, already on it | 17:39 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 17:39 |
| hazmat | imbrandon, +1 on upstream url | 17:39 |
| hazmat | i was thinking how to get that into the browser with google search api ;-) | 17:39 |
| hazmat | but ofc a metadata field for it would be much nicer | 17:39 |
| imbrandon | heh yea :) | 17:39 |
| imbrandon | the feeds api is great for that btw, if you ever dig more | 17:40 |
| jcastro | SpamapS: ok, and one other thing, where'd you put in the docs the info for other distros? | 17:40 |
| imbrandon | but yea a dedicated field/fields for tarball/vcs | 17:40 |
| imbrandon | would rock | 17:40 |
| imbrandon | jcastro: http://local.assets-online.com/docs/operating-systems.html | 17:41 |
| imbrandon | err . correct domain | 17:41 |
| imbrandon | thats my local copy heh | 17:41 |
| jcastro | got it | 17:41 |
| imbrandon | hazmat: yea i ve got an update 3.4 done with better navigation | 17:42 |
| imbrandon | closer to the old way | 17:42 |
| imbrandon | but still ubuntu like | 17:42 |
| imbrandon | probably will need more tweaks but much better than whats i put up yesterday | 17:42 |
| imbrandon | btw i am splitting out the theme so other sphinx users in canonical/ubuntu can use it too + i have a "base" plain .html verion i;ve been mirroring too so that i can convert it to drupal/wordpress/django easy as well | 17:44 |
| imbrandon | for the little one off cananical non-webteam or pre-web team sites | 17:44 |
| imbrandon | heh | 17:44 |
| imbrandon | but yea my .plan hazmat was to utilize the responsive css, and the 1170 and 980 screens use the tree on the side | 17:46 |
| imbrandon | and the smaller ones and tablets use a dropdown | 17:47 |
| imbrandon | its what i;ve been working on between nginx/spdy stuff this morning | 17:47 |
| hazmat | imbrandon, sounds good to me | 17:48 |
| hazmat | imbrandon, nginx spdy is pretty experimental was my understanding | 17:48 |
| imbrandon | also noticed i hard coded a few http:// and ssl errors are throwing, got that fixed up too | 17:49 |
| hazmat | imbrandon, awesome, thanks | 17:49 |
| imbrandon | SpamapS: so can we add upstream: and vcs: pweease ! *said in his best kid on christmass day voice* | 17:50 |
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| jcastro | SpamapS: are you planning on adding it more or should I post this to the list? | 17:56 |
| SpamapS | jcastro: I have no plans. ;) | 17:59 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: yo | 18:37 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: I'd like to kick off a jjj build | 18:37 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: is there anything that should happen before `make dist`? | 18:37 |
| SpamapS | m_3: autoreconf :) | 18:41 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: yeah... got all that | 18:41 |
| SpamapS | actualy make dist probably does that | 18:41 |
| SpamapS | well no | 18:41 |
| SpamapS | make diest is after .. anyway | 18:42 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: just can't quite tell if I need to bump the vers | 18:42 |
| SpamapS | m_3: no, it should be self contained | 18:42 |
| m_3 | awesome | 18:42 |
| SpamapS | m_3: only bump the version if you're doing an actual release :) | 18:42 |
| SpamapS | should be like, 0.11 or something righ tnow | 18:42 |
| m_3 | so `make dist` now will create 0.10.1? | 18:42 |
| m_3 | ah | 18:42 |
| SpamapS | no make dist does not create a version. | 18:43 |
| m_3 | is there also build recipe to kick off manually from the web or is that handled in make dist? | 18:43 |
| m_3 | I see "create a release" button on the web | 18:43 |
| SpamapS | m_3: there's a build recipe attached to the trunk | 18:43 |
| SpamapS | m_3: it points at the stable branch.. | 18:43 |
| SpamapS | m_3: unfortunately we can't use {latest-tag} in bzr build recipes.. or it would be fully automatic | 18:44 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: you have any problems with me creating a new release version with jim's changes (they're approved and merged into trunk now) | 18:44 |
| m_3 | (watch subcommand) | 18:44 |
| SpamapS | m_3: the release procedure is to bump the version in configure.ac, commit+tag that, push that to trunk+stable, then bump again and push that to trunk only | 18:45 |
| SpamapS | m_3: then make dist, create release, upload tarball, etc. etc. | 18:45 |
| SpamapS | m_3: would love to automate this so its 'make release' | 18:45 |
| m_3 | hmmm... wow, didn't think I'd need to upload tarballs... ok | 18:46 |
| SpamapS | m_3: the final step is to edit the recipe and bump the revision to the next stable version, and request a build | 18:46 |
| SpamapS | that last step is the most annoying | 18:46 |
| SpamapS | because its just waiting on an update to launchpad to be automatic :-P | 18:47 |
| SpamapS | m_3: you don't *have* to push tarballs | 18:47 |
| m_3 | before I get started on that... bigger question: should this process sync up with bigger cycle milestones? or is it ok to be when we feel like it? | 18:47 |
| SpamapS | m_3: I just wanted to make it easy for anybody who wants to run it | 18:47 |
| SpamapS | m_3: jjj is experimental. We release whenever. | 18:47 |
| SpamapS | often :) | 18:47 |
| SpamapS | 1 commit is enough | 18:47 |
| SpamapS | :) | 18:47 |
| SpamapS | anyway, I have to run and do some errands | 18:48 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: cool | 18:48 |
| SpamapS | bbl | 18:48 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: I'll work on the bump... I'll try to ping you only as last resort :) | 18:48 |
| m_3 | thanks! | 18:48 |
| MarkDude | imbrandon, pingy | 18:49 |
| imbrandon | sup MarkDude | 18:49 |
| MarkDude | Good news on Fedora JUJU? | 18:49 |
| imbrandon | yea its, in the wild, did not see 1000 tweets from everyoen ? heh | 18:50 |
| * MarkDude has some that may help with process now the questions start | 18:50 | |
| * MarkDude hasa had time taken by ladyfriend | 18:50 | |
| imbrandon | seriously tho its on gitup, all ready to start and take a beating, i noticed there is a zookeeper issue i need to fixup | 18:50 |
| imbrandon | but it works :) | 18:50 |
| MarkDude | also we are STILL arguing over names in Fedora | 18:50 |
| imbrandon | hahaha | 18:50 |
| imbrandon | nice | 18:50 |
| MarkDude | Antoehr board meeting | 18:50 |
| MarkDude | some polls | 18:51 |
| MarkDude | changing the voting system | 18:51 |
| * MarkDude calleda few people humorless | 18:51 | |
| MarkDude | due to their lack of humor | 18:51 |
| imbrandon | http://github.com/jujutools/rpm-juju should be where it is atm | 18:51 |
| imbrandon | btw | 18:51 |
| imbrandon | heh make it beefy | 18:51 |
| imbrandon | just beefy | 18:51 |
| imbrandon | :) | 18:51 |
| MarkDude | They are pushing for a theming way to do it | 18:52 |
| * MarkDude has suggested BBQ | 18:52 | |
| imbrandon | btw you should have seen my gimp job i posted with the rpm's | 18:52 |
| imbrandon | check out brandonholtsclaw.com its still on the front pahe | 18:53 |
| imbrandon | page* | 18:53 |
| imbrandon | MarkDude: but yea i'm sure that they are not perfect, i'm more than happy to take bugreports or help or whatever from the testers | 18:56 |
| MarkDude | Im putting it out now on IRC | 18:56 |
| MarkDude | Then will go to MLs | 18:56 |
| imbrandon | if they do file a bug report , i'll give ya the tracker url | 18:56 |
| imbrandon | one sec | 18:56 |
| imbrandon | https://github.com/jujutools/rpm-juju/issues | 18:57 |
| imbrandon | and patches more welcome too as i'm not a native rpm'er :) | 18:58 |
| imbrandon | i was gonna try that suse build service soonish to try and build centos / suse / fedora packages all form the git repo automatic | 18:59 |
| imbrandon | =just had not got that far :) | 18:59 |
| MarkDude | So Jeff Spatula is wrong about charms needing to be hosted on LP- am I correct? | 19:04 |
| imbrandon | they dont NEED to be, it would be easy for yall if they were | 19:04 |
| imbrandon | just means you have to setup your own store if you want to not use LP ( there is talks about the store moving to github , not sure where thats gonna go tho ) | 19:05 |
| jcastro | negronjl: mira mira | 19:46 |
| jcastro | when do you want to do the graphs for the charm store? | 19:46 |
| jcastro | hazmat: what's the refresh interval on the review queue, I believe you said 15 minutes? | 20:17 |
| hazmat | jcastro, yup | 20:24 |
| hazmat | jcastro, max delay with the http cache is 18m | 20:24 |
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| _mup_ | Bug #1013457 was filed: twistd still autostarted for juju after juju is removed from system <juju> <storage-server.log> <twistd> <juju:Confirmed> <juju (Ubuntu):Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013457 > | 21:13 |
| SpamapS | m_3: how did it go? | 21:20 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: almost there!!! | 21:22 |
| m_3 | on the last step... can't seem to edit the recipe | 21:22 |
| m_3 | is it owned by you? | 21:22 |
| m_3 | https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/+recipe/juju-jitsu-stable | 21:23 |
| SpamapS | m_3: let me transfer it to juju-jitsu | 21:27 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: also, I see a deb version in the recipe (0.10-0stable1) but no updates in the changelog in lp:juju-jitsu/packaging... did you just make up 0.10-0stable1? | 21:30 |
| SpamapS | m_3: https://code.launchpad.net/~juju/+recipe/juju-jitsu-stable | 21:30 |
| SpamapS | m_3: yes I just made that up | 21:30 |
| m_3 | cool... trying again now | 21:30 |
| SpamapS | m_3: Have to run. TTYL | 21:30 |
| m_3 | ok, thanks... that seemed to work | 21:32 |
| m_3 | SpamapS: awesome... it built | 21:55 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, m_3, jamespage around? | 23:48 |
| hazmat | trying to figure out python-dbg stuff to trace down a deadlock | 23:48 |
| hazmat | but it can't seem to import any extensions on precise | 23:49 |
| hazmat | it always fails with ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/apt_pkg.so: undefined symbol: Py_InitModule | 23:49 |
| hazmat | which is troubling | 23:49 |
| hazmat | nm | 23:50 |
| hazmat | just removing sys.excepthook gets rid of apport which was the problem | 23:50 |
| hazmat | failure in the failure system ;-) | 23:50 |
| hazmat | hm... didn't work as well i had hoped | 23:52 |
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