[00:03] SpamapS, alright. I need to sign off. Thanks for looking at my problem. I'll watch the bug for a fix that I can test. [00:05] mars: should be soon I think. :) [00:35] SpamapS, back [00:36] there are some pyzk bugs with fixes in trunk that haven't been backported / packaged but nothing relatable [00:37] hazmat: seems odd that after a while it would go from lazy polling to furious reconnecting [00:37] mars, is zookeeper running? [00:37] hazmat: anyway, I say we just stop trying to start agents that will never work [00:37] ps aux | grep java [00:37] hazmat: the whole point is that zk is not running [00:37] SpamapS, so two options make local envs survive restarts, or remove upstarts for all of them [00:45] hazmat: well I'd like them to survieve [00:45] hazmat: seems that we'd need to re-start zookeeper and it would work [00:46] hazmat: oh, and the containers. ;) [00:46] hazmat: either way, the half-done bit needs to go [00:46] hazmat: I say remove the start stuff until we can get around to finishing the feature [00:48] SpamapS, sounds good to me [00:54] Well, running 6 m1.small instances got a little pricey. I have two large amazon bills. Ahhhhh =:s [00:55] I blame that on you guys. Need to put the handy constraints options more close to the front of the documentation. [00:57] surgemcgee: I topped $200 this past month, and thats just from testing stuff for 1 - 2 days at a time ;) [00:57] surgemcgee: constraints only landed about 2 months ago.. so.. before that you just had to eat it. ;) [03:17] <_mup_> Bug #1013469 was filed: Reactor issues (should switch to solar) < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013469 > [03:30] aujuju: What is the correct way to set config options to a juju service unit with a file? [04:53] aujuju: Can't get juju to deploy, problem with ec2 keypair? [06:41] * negronjl is done for the night [06:41] night [06:42] * imbrandon just got done with the second round of updates for the doc theme [07:19] what's a good idiom for detecting when all my relations have been joined? store the joined status in a file? [07:21] relations can be joined at any time, even weeks after a deployment when new nodes or services are added [07:25] imbrandon: what if i depend on those relations, so i need them to be fulfilled before i can proceed? [07:27] imbrandon: i guess i'm wondering if there's some way of querying the status of the other relations while within a relation-joined hook [07:28] then dont do anything until relation-joined [07:28] almsot every charm has something like that, e.g wordpress cant work without a db [07:28] so it waits for the mysql to join relation [07:29] imbrandon: that's fine. but in this case i want to wait for *both* relations to be joined [07:30] imbrandon: and i'm wondering what the idiomatic way to do that is [07:30] ok so do some setup in one and some in the other and make them inter depend [07:30] imbrandon: by storing state in a file? [07:31] imbrandon: or is there some other way to track local state? [07:31] could be that or checking for a file that only exists on setup, like a settings.php [07:32] config-set would be an option but it has not be coded yet :) [07:33] imbrandon: i'm not sure that config-set is quite what i'm after, as that's global to the service, but this is something local to the unit [07:34] config-set --local, perhaps [07:34] imbrandon: BTW i'm not quite sure what you mean by "checking for a file that only exists on setup, like a settings.php" [07:34] umm so i am wordpress, i need a webserver and i need a db [07:34] imbrandon: the other end of the relation is remote, right? so there won't be any associated files. [07:35] so i setup myself on www when i get the ww relation [07:35] but ther eis no settings file as that is made by the db relation [07:35] so i know its not be setup yet by [[ -t /pth/to/settings.php ]] [07:35] and can wait till next relation fires [07:36] imbrandon: ah, so you're tracking which relations have been joined by which files you've created. i see. [07:36] imbrandon: and then in both relation-joined hooks you test for both files and start the service if they exist. [07:36] not really cuz very rearely do i reeally care, i'll set up the relation regaurdless of the other state [07:37] the charm wont work untill they all come about anyhow :) [07:37] but if i did care that would be the simplest way [07:38] imbrandon: thanks a lot [07:38] np heh :) === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === TheRealMue is now known as TheMue === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [15:39] SpamapS: btw did mention i LOVE sphinx doc system, like it has some funky parts to work arround but for real, i even installed the PHP and JavaScript domain plugings to document my personal libs and such [15:55] imbrandon: do you use trello mobile? jorge's recent change to ubuntu group borked my mobile boards [15:56] yea, but i havent logged into it in a few days [15:56] lemme check [15:56] ios right ? [15:56] not sure if I'm just being dumb... yeah ios [15:56] ahh crap ipad is dead, i'll check it here in afew once it charges a lil [15:56] should only take a few min to charge enought to come on [15:57] np.. no hurry... just wondering if I was the only one [15:57] * m_3 can also just rtfm :) [15:57] heh yea, i actually leave that and mail clien up on my ipad alot [15:57] just sitting off to the side [15:57] 'morning all [15:57] kinda nice to just thumb through but not have a tab [15:58] heya negronjl [15:58] negronjl: yo [15:58] 'morning imbrandon [15:58] m_3: hi [15:58] wish they had a native ipad version... that'd be really cool with trello [15:58] visual layouts n stuff [15:59] yea, all the effect with the movement would be nice [15:59] like iphoto, well the new one [15:59] * m_3 nod [16:00] i think this is thr first time i;ve charged this one since i got it [16:00] about a month ago ( the new 3, traded off my 2 ) [16:01] but honestly i can tell no diffrence at all, even with the retna display [16:16] seems ok here m_3 [16:19] imbrandon: ok, thanks === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [17:36] SpamapS: hey clint, may I brainstorm an idea with you? [17:36] have we thought about the equivalent of like a debian watch file? [17:36] so we can test/know when a charm is out of date vs. upstream? [17:37] thats what i was tracking with the x-vcs , we could approve a metadata field easy enough for a upstream url and then have charm tools check it [17:37] like watch does, via the charm store too [17:37] like bts [17:38] jcastro: No we haven't throught about it, but I'd love to have something like it [17:38] And there is a discussion in Debian right now to add Vcs to watch files [17:39] imbrandon, i'm starting to wonder if this sphinx bootstrap layout wouldn't be better (retains navigation tree) .. demo -> http://code.scotchmedia.com/engineauth/docs/index.html code -> [17:39] hazmat: yup, already on it [17:39] ;) [17:39] imbrandon, +1 on upstream url [17:39] i was thinking how to get that into the browser with google search api ;-) [17:39] but ofc a metadata field for it would be much nicer [17:39] heh yea :) [17:40] the feeds api is great for that btw, if you ever dig more [17:40] SpamapS: ok, and one other thing, where'd you put in the docs the info for other distros? [17:40] but yea a dedicated field/fields for tarball/vcs [17:40] would rock [17:41] jcastro: http://local.assets-online.com/docs/operating-systems.html [17:41] err . correct domain [17:41] thats my local copy heh [17:41] got it [17:42] hazmat: yea i ve got an update 3.4 done with better navigation [17:42] closer to the old way [17:42] but still ubuntu like [17:42] probably will need more tweaks but much better than whats i put up yesterday [17:44] btw i am splitting out the theme so other sphinx users in canonical/ubuntu can use it too + i have a "base" plain .html verion i;ve been mirroring too so that i can convert it to drupal/wordpress/django easy as well [17:44] for the little one off cananical non-webteam or pre-web team sites [17:44] heh [17:46] but yea my .plan hazmat was to utilize the responsive css, and the 1170 and 980 screens use the tree on the side [17:47] and the smaller ones and tablets use a dropdown [17:47] its what i;ve been working on between nginx/spdy stuff this morning [17:48] imbrandon, sounds good to me [17:48] imbrandon, nginx spdy is pretty experimental was my understanding [17:49] also noticed i hard coded a few http:// and ssl errors are throwing, got that fixed up too [17:49] imbrandon, awesome, thanks [17:50] SpamapS: so can we add upstream: and vcs: pweease ! *said in his best kid on christmass day voice* === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [17:56] SpamapS: are you planning on adding it more or should I post this to the list? [17:59] jcastro: I have no plans. ;) [18:37] SpamapS: yo [18:37] SpamapS: I'd like to kick off a jjj build [18:37] SpamapS: is there anything that should happen before `make dist`? [18:41] m_3: autoreconf :) [18:41] SpamapS: yeah... got all that [18:41] actualy make dist probably does that [18:41] well no [18:42] make diest is after .. anyway [18:42] SpamapS: just can't quite tell if I need to bump the vers [18:42] m_3: no, it should be self contained [18:42] awesome [18:42] m_3: only bump the version if you're doing an actual release :) [18:42] should be like, 0.11 or something righ tnow [18:42] so `make dist` now will create 0.10.1? [18:42] ah [18:43] no make dist does not create a version. [18:43] is there also build recipe to kick off manually from the web or is that handled in make dist? [18:43] I see "create a release" button on the web [18:43] m_3: there's a build recipe attached to the trunk [18:43] m_3: it points at the stable branch.. [18:44] m_3: unfortunately we can't use {latest-tag} in bzr build recipes.. or it would be fully automatic [18:44] SpamapS: you have any problems with me creating a new release version with jim's changes (they're approved and merged into trunk now) [18:44] (watch subcommand) [18:45] m_3: the release procedure is to bump the version in configure.ac, commit+tag that, push that to trunk+stable, then bump again and push that to trunk only [18:45] m_3: then make dist, create release, upload tarball, etc. etc. [18:45] m_3: would love to automate this so its 'make release' [18:46] hmmm... wow, didn't think I'd need to upload tarballs... ok [18:46] m_3: the final step is to edit the recipe and bump the revision to the next stable version, and request a build [18:46] that last step is the most annoying [18:47] because its just waiting on an update to launchpad to be automatic :-P [18:47] m_3: you don't *have* to push tarballs [18:47] before I get started on that... bigger question: should this process sync up with bigger cycle milestones? or is it ok to be when we feel like it? [18:47] m_3: I just wanted to make it easy for anybody who wants to run it [18:47] m_3: jjj is experimental. We release whenever. [18:47] often :) [18:47] 1 commit is enough [18:47] :) [18:48] anyway, I have to run and do some errands [18:48] SpamapS: cool [18:48] bbl [18:48] SpamapS: I'll work on the bump... I'll try to ping you only as last resort :) [18:48] thanks! [18:49] imbrandon, pingy [18:49] sup MarkDude [18:49] Good news on Fedora JUJU? [18:50] yea its, in the wild, did not see 1000 tweets from everyoen ? heh [18:50] * MarkDude has some that may help with process now the questions start [18:50] * MarkDude hasa had time taken by ladyfriend [18:50] seriously tho its on gitup, all ready to start and take a beating, i noticed there is a zookeeper issue i need to fixup [18:50] but it works :) [18:50] also we are STILL arguing over names in Fedora [18:50] hahaha [18:50] nice [18:50] Antoehr board meeting [18:51] some polls [18:51] changing the voting system [18:51] * MarkDude calleda few people humorless [18:51] due to their lack of humor [18:51] http://github.com/jujutools/rpm-juju should be where it is atm [18:51] btw [18:51] heh make it beefy [18:51] just beefy [18:51] :) [18:52] They are pushing for a theming way to do it [18:52] * MarkDude has suggested BBQ [18:52] btw you should have seen my gimp job i posted with the rpm's [18:53] check out brandonholtsclaw.com its still on the front pahe [18:53] page* [18:56] MarkDude: but yea i'm sure that they are not perfect, i'm more than happy to take bugreports or help or whatever from the testers [18:56] Im putting it out now on IRC [18:56] Then will go to MLs [18:56] if they do file a bug report , i'll give ya the tracker url [18:56] one sec [18:57] https://github.com/jujutools/rpm-juju/issues [18:58] and patches more welcome too as i'm not a native rpm'er :) [18:59] i was gonna try that suse build service soonish to try and build centos / suse / fedora packages all form the git repo automatic [18:59] =just had not got that far :) [19:04] So Jeff Spatula is wrong about charms needing to be hosted on LP- am I correct? [19:04] they dont NEED to be, it would be easy for yall if they were [19:05] just means you have to setup your own store if you want to not use LP ( there is talks about the store moving to github , not sure where thats gonna go tho ) [19:46] negronjl: mira mira [19:46] when do you want to do the graphs for the charm store? [20:17] hazmat: what's the refresh interval on the review queue, I believe you said 15 minutes? [20:24] jcastro, yup [20:24] jcastro, max delay with the http cache is 18m === salgado is now known as salgado-brb === salgado-brb is now known as salgado === salgado is now known as salgado-brb [21:13] <_mup_> Bug #1013457 was filed: twistd still autostarted for juju after juju is removed from system

< https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013457 > [21:20] m_3: how did it go? [21:22] SpamapS: almost there!!! [21:22] on the last step... can't seem to edit the recipe [21:22] is it owned by you? [21:23] https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/+recipe/juju-jitsu-stable [21:27] m_3: let me transfer it to juju-jitsu [21:30] SpamapS: also, I see a deb version in the recipe (0.10-0stable1) but no updates in the changelog in lp:juju-jitsu/packaging... did you just make up 0.10-0stable1? [21:30] m_3: https://code.launchpad.net/~juju/+recipe/juju-jitsu-stable [21:30] m_3: yes I just made that up [21:30] cool... trying again now [21:30] m_3: Have to run. TTYL [21:32] ok, thanks... that seemed to work [21:55] SpamapS: awesome... it built [23:48] SpamapS, m_3, jamespage around? [23:48] trying to figure out python-dbg stuff to trace down a deadlock [23:49] but it can't seem to import any extensions on precise [23:49] it always fails with ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/apt_pkg.so: undefined symbol: Py_InitModule [23:49] which is troubling [23:50] nm [23:50] just removing sys.excepthook gets rid of apport which was the problem [23:50] failure in the failure system ;-) [23:52] hm... didn't work as well i had hoped