| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1013468] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: conffile './etc/xdg/Troll... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013468 (by Michael Yesutin) | 04:09 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1013468 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: conffile './etc/xdg/Trolltech.conf' is not in sync with other instances of the same package" [Undecided,New] | 04:09 |
| JontheEchidna | that kdevelop patch on kde-release should clear the NBS okteta libs off the list, so I'm pbuilding it now | 04:21 |
| JontheEchidna | *kde-packager | 04:21 |
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| Riddell | hola amigos | 08:02 |
| jussi | Riddell: good morning sir | 08:05 |
| soee | hi | 08:07 |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1011961] sftp connection with password fails @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1011961 (by Arrigo Marchiori) | 09:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1011961 in KDE Base Runtime "sftp connection with password fails" [High,Confirmed] | 09:29 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: why has kubotu started posting random bugs? | 09:32 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: cause I made it also | 10:09 |
| apachelogger | so | 10:09 |
| apachelogger | not random tho | 10:09 |
| apachelogger | runtime & workspace | 10:09 |
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| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Council Election - Vote Now! | Status: http://goo.gl/ZGGJP | Packaging TODO (4.8.90): http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | meeting: Thu 14th 16:00UTC https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings | ||
| rigo | hello everybody! I have reported a bug and I would like to know if I have to do anything to have it fixed. Bug is #1011961 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-runtime/+bug/1011961) and there is also a patch. | 11:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1011961 in KDE Base Runtime "sftp connection with password fails" [High,Confirmed] | 11:15 |
| jussi | Riddell: any thoughts about that ^^ | 11:16 |
| Riddell | rigo: keep poking upstream | 11:17 |
| Riddell | e-mail kde-devel list if no reply on the bug | 11:17 |
| rigo | Riddell: thank you for the suggestions. However, I would expect the KDE developers to fix this in the next KDE versions. How about Ubuntu? The patch could just be integrated without waiting for upstream... couldn't it? | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | sure it could | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | it coudl also then break something | 11:21 |
| rigo | apachelogger: sure it could :-) Is there anything I can do to encourage testing of that patch? | 11:23 |
| Riddell | make test packages maybe | 11:27 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 11:29 |
| soee | hi BluesKaj | 11:31 |
| BluesKaj | hi soee | 11:33 |
| kubotu | ::runtime-bugs:: [1011961] sftp connection with password fails @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1011961 (by Arrigo Marchiori) | 11:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1011961 in KDE Base Runtime "sftp connection with password fails" [High,Confirmed] | 11:35 |
| ScottK | Riddell: audiocd-kio accepted. Thanks. | 12:53 |
| Riddell | ScottK: yay | 12:54 |
| BluesKaj | BBL | 12:55 |
| ScottK | Even though it'll get demoted soon, I accepted into Main since it's a split of Main source and it'll build faster. | 12:55 |
| jtechidna | ScottK: libkasten1* is NBS and is now rdepends free, except for the dependencies among themselves. | 12:59 |
| ScottK | OK. There's a regular cleanup process for such things, so I'll leave it to that. I am currently working on Bug #1013242, however. | 13:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1013242 in kdemultimedia (Ubuntu) "Remove kdemultimedia source package from quantal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013242 | 13:00 |
| jtechidna | ok, cool | 13:00 |
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| BluesKaj | , BBL | 13:53 |
| rigo | Riddell: sorry for the long away time. When you say "make test packages" do you also mean "and publish them somewhere"? I did make some packages at work, applying the patch before the compilation, and they seem to work fine. | 14:02 |
| kio_http | Hi, sorry to intrude but are there any plans for 4.8.90 on precise? | 14:25 |
| ScottK | kio_http: There will be packages in the beta PPA when they are ready. | 14:31 |
| kio_http | Sounds good ... thanks | 14:31 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1013686] package libqt4-designer 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: short read on buffer... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013686 (by alfonex) | 14:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1013686 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "package libqt4-designer 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: short read on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtDesigner.so.4.8.1'" [Undecided,New] | 14:36 |
| ScottK | It's possible I was just sarcastic on ubuntu-devel (ML). | 14:49 |
| Riddell | ScottK: a little yes. but the development-release-is-stable is something that's interesting, we could consider using it instead of all these time consuming backports | 14:57 |
| ScottK | True. | 14:58 |
| ScottK | I think 'let's not freeze because dailies are great' is a bit ridiculous. | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | wouldn't what rick proposes need to be applied for everything? | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | i.e. without basic valdiation nothing gets out of proposed | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | if so then I'd consider that a bigger drag on velocity than one week of cherry pick blockage | 15:01 |
| * cjwatson starts the move of Kubuntu to universe in quantal, per discussion on kubuntu-devel@ and IRC. | 15:05 | |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 15:06 |
| jtechidna | :) | 15:06 |
| ScottK | :-( | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | I can be a master of the universe again | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | though I thought there was no conclusion on the discussion | 15:06 |
| cjwatson | ScottK: It might be worth looking into some kind of parallel MIR-lite process. It wouldn't be very hard to e.g. maintain a list of the things that have been checked. | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | then again no one was really loking for a conclusion *Shrug* | 15:06 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I think it was clear where the balance of opinion was. | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 15:14 |
| cjwatson | Done. | 15:14 |
| dantti_laptop | apachelogger: hey :) I'm doing some changes to add-printer wizard of print manager, what do you think about the following? (I removed the huge icon here) | 15:19 |
| dantti_laptop | http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/15/plasma-desktopBZ1944.png | 15:19 |
| Riddell | kubuntu-ninjas PPAs is actually quite wuick at building, it's the publishing which takes hours :( | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: hours? :O | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | wtf | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | dantti_laptop: me likes | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | dantti_laptop: except I would put the ppdf file thigny at the bottom | 15:20 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: one or two hours | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | and add a filter label | 15:20 |
| dantti_laptop | hmm I didn't thought about putting it at the bottom.. let me try | 15:21 |
| * apachelogger always found it quite silly that in apparently no printer installer we ever had you were able to filter the lists | 15:21 | |
| dantti_laptop | it filtered first but now I'm not sure it will work.. | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | so you end up scrolling left until you find Foo and then Foo has 3000 drivers and you end up scrolling all to the end of the drivers pane | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | dantti_laptop: well, assuming it cannot autodetect the driver | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | so you go manually looking for it | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | which I reckon can often be the case as otherwise I fail to see the point of the lists ;) | 15:22 |
| dantti_laptop | yes, it's just a bit trick to search on trees | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | dantti_laptop: so what I would do is add *one* filter that filters the driver names | 15:23 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: PPA publishing is fairly dreadful. There's work on "diskless archives" being considered at the moment to improve it. | 15:23 |
| cjwatson | Because it bites the Consumer Apps work for software-center. | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | so if I enter 9000 there, the left hand pane would only display brands that have a driver that matches 9000 and the right hand pane will only display the matching drivers per brand | 15:24 |
| dantti_laptop | apachelogger: I know its the search algorith that is trick.. since it's a tree we had a hard time when doing this for polkit kcm... | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | That said I believe there's been some emergency patching done of late to try to improve things. | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | dantti_laptop: simply traverse all child nodes? | 15:25 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: do you know who's incharge of the language pack infrastructure these days? | 15:25 |
| Riddell | dpm? | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | you'll get away with n*regexcmp | 15:25 |
| dantti_laptop | apachelogger: it's not that simple, since you can't hide the parent on the match.. | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | huh? | 15:27 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: I'd start with him, at least. Martin probably still has his fingers in bits of it, knowing him. | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | why that is silly | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | dantti_laptop: does it need to be a tree? | 15:27 |
| dantti_laptop | to hide a make you need to check all childs | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | dantti_laptop: you need to do that anyway | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | n is the amount of known drivers | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | you need to regex all known drivers | 15:28 |
| dantti_laptop | well you need to do it twice.. | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | dantti_laptop: why? | 15:28 |
| maco | apachelogger: the KC election... there's only one spot open? | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | dantti_laptop: you go through all parents, and decend into their children, if no children matches the parent gets hidden | 15:28 |
| dantti_laptop | the algorithm will check each node, first on parent then on childs.. | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | maco: no, dunno why it says so | 15:29 |
| maco | apachelogger: how many? | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | 3 | 15:29 |
| maco | ok | 15:29 |
| dantti_laptop | on the parent you chekc the childs to see if it should be visible.. | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | half the team gets elected once a year | 15:29 |
| maco | ok | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | dantti_laptop: ah you mean a predefiend algorithm? | 15:29 |
| Riddell | dpm: language packs? I think we need to turn the language-pack-kde packages into simple meta packages depending on kde-l10n-xx and other bits, how do we do that? | 15:30 |
| dantti_laptop | apachelogger: the sortfilterModel... | 15:30 |
| dantti_laptop | apachelogger: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/15/plasma-desktopLR1944.png | 15:30 |
| debfx | cjwatson: a few of the new KDE source packages haven't been demoted yet: audiocd-kio, kscd and libkcompactdisc (they show up on component-mismatch) | 15:30 |
| apachelogger | dantti_laptop: make your own filter model | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | debfx: Yeah, those were already listed for moving but I only initially processed the ones that changed as a direct result of telling component-mismatches to consider only Ubuntu | 15:30 |
| dantti_laptop | apachelogger: sure I need to , but I 'll need to manually do that, which is boring... | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | lol | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | dantti_laptop: it's like 20 sloc for the algorithm :P | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | unless you thread the filtering, which would be really fancy ^^ | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | like if a parent has > thresh nodes you run the scan in a thraed ^^ | 15:32 |
| cjwatson | debfx: Done now, thanks | 15:32 |
| Riddell | 16:33 < skaet_> Riddell, will you follow up with the images you want for Kubuntu for 12.04.1 as well? | 15:33 |
| Riddell | what do we want? | 15:33 |
| maco | real food | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | what are the options? | 15:34 |
| maco | when do we want it? | 15:34 |
| * apachelogger wants pony images | 15:34 | |
| maco | (we're chanting right?) | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | maco: you are not a fish, you are a person | 15:35 |
| dantti_laptop | apachelogger: I'll let that for later :P I'm also thinking on merging these two http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/15/plasma-desktopBL1944.png http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/15/plasma-desktopLs1944.png | 15:35 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: presumably desktop, can we be bothered with alternate? I'm wanting to say no to arm, active, dvd, powerpc, amd64+mac | 15:35 |
| Aptar | Just wanted to stop in and say I appreciate the hard work you guys put in to Kubuntu. | 15:36 |
| dantti_laptop | apachelogger: removing the left icon and puting it next to the printers list, pretty much like what s-c-p does today.. | 15:36 |
| Aptar | Thanks. | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I'd leave alternate, dvd seems worthwhile tho | 15:36 |
| Riddell | Aptar: :) | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | magazines like to put DVDs on their DVDs | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | which is a common source for users | 15:37 |
| Riddell | that's the DVD we just dropped for 12.10? | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | yes | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | with 12.10 we do put useful stuff on the desktop image tho :P | 15:37 |
| rigo | I have to leave this channel now. Thank you and good bye! | 15:44 |
| dpm | Riddell, I've no idea about how language pack dependencies work, I think pitti might be the best person to talk to | 15:49 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1013686] package libqt4-designer 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: short read on buffer... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013686 (by alfonex) | 16:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1013686 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "package libqt4-designer 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.1 failed to install/upgrade: short read on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtDesigner.so.4.8.1'" [Undecided,Invalid] | 16:37 |
| Riddell | final bits compiling (that are going to compile) for precise 4.8.90 now | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer | wheee .. moved to universe :D | 16:54 |
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| debfx | I'll move 4.8.4 to the updates ppa once kde4libs finished building | 17:46 |
| Riddell | debfx: problems got sorted? | 17:46 |
| debfx | Riddell: yep, upstream reverted 2 commits | 17:46 |
| Riddell | great | 17:46 |
| MountainX | For KDE GUI app development using Python, how is Eclipse? | 17:47 |
| Riddell | MountainX: hmm no idea I'm afraid, never tried it | 17:47 |
| Riddell | I don't an IDE person myself, I use Kate or emacs | 17:48 |
| Riddell | s/don't/not/ | 17:48 |
| kubotu | Riddell meant: "I not an IDE person myself, I use Kate or emacs" | 17:48 |
| Tm_T | MountainX: we have this thing called KDevelop | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | Tm_T: not particularly useful when writing python code fwiw | 17:49 |
| MountainX | Yes, I am deciding between KDevelop and Eclipse... | 17:49 |
| Tm_T | but meh, if you're writing python, I'm unsure what difference IDE would make | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | Kate for python | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | or vim | 17:49 |
| Riddell | I've also no idea how KDevelop is for Python | 17:49 |
| Riddell | Idle is the python Qt IDE, it's always scared me by having about 100 toolbar buttons in it's default UI | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 17:50 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: same thing as in c++ surely | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | oh btw | 17:50 |
| MountainX | I'm not a full time developer so I want to learn just one IDe. Eclipse is something I could use for many different projects, so I was hoping I might also use it for Python-KDE projects. | 17:50 |
| Riddell | tab completion, quick links to api etc, quick buttons for execution etc | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | apparently there's a GSoC on improving KDE Accessibility this time | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | so hopefully we will have better a11y in the coming releases | 17:51 |
| Tm_T | ...now if I could find a reasonable Kate-replacement that would work in a browser for example | 17:51 |
| Riddell | in a browser? | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | there's going to be a standard library ( Atleast that's what I was told by the student doing the GSoC ) for apps to export a11y interfaces | 17:51 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: yeah, been testing if I can do my work just by having a browser | 17:51 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: you are google's dream | 17:52 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: well, now that you mentioned it... http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/chrome-elinks.png | 17:52 |
| Tm_T | chrome can be used for browsing too ^^ | 17:52 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: oh my | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | @_@ | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | who in their right minds would use that | 17:53 |
| Tm_T | elinks? | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 17:54 |
| Tm_T | why not, although I usually do use lynx | 17:54 |
| Tm_T | ...when I use TUI browser | 17:54 |
| Riddell | w3m is the best | 17:54 |
| shadeslayer | unlike apachelogger, I'm a sane person, hence I use full featured browsers :P | 17:55 |
| shadeslayer | not lynx ... | 17:55 |
| shadeslayer | not that I've got anything against people using lynkx | 17:55 |
| shadeslayer | *lynx | 17:55 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: +1 w3m ftw | 17:56 |
| MountainX | Anyone know if KDevelop has code completion for Python? | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | MountainX: I heavily doubt you'll find IDE's that do code completion for python | 17:57 |
| * Riddell never tried python in KDevelop | 17:57 | |
| shadeslayer | I did search for it one time | 17:57 |
| shadeslayer | but gave up and started typing out stuff in kate | 17:57 |
| shadeslayer | and surprisingly the code worked :P | 17:57 |
| MountainX | Actually there are lots of them that do code completion for Python | 17:57 |
| shadeslayer | you only need to take care of spaces | 17:57 |
| shadeslayer | MountainX: not true code completion, kate only completes for stuff that you've already written in the file | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | unlike C++, where you have proper parsers and what not | 17:58 |
| MountainX | I don't know what "true code completion" is, but I know that there are several Python IDEs that claim to offer code completion. I watched a video on it. | 17:59 |
| MountainX | And I used IPython which has really code tab completion. | 17:59 |
| MountainX | *really cool | 17:59 |
| Riddell | it would be entirely possible to have code completion in an IDE, python is very introspectable | 18:00 |
| Riddell | the IDE would just need to ask the library what classes and methods it has | 18:00 |
| Riddell | I did see a kdevelop dev trying to do code completion in javascript one time many years ago, not a pretty sight | 18:01 |
| MountainX | Being that I only dabble in coding, I don't want to learn a lot of different tools. But I do want to be able to write KDE GUI apps in Python. So I'm looking for the one best IDE to learn. | 18:01 |
| * shadeslayer usually has python docs + kate | 18:02 | |
| shadeslayer | that's all | 18:02 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer++ | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | that's how I'm learning erlang as well :P | 18:03 |
| Riddell | what's erlang? | 18:03 |
| MountainX | @shadeslayer. I don't understand what you are saying. I've seen several Python IDEs that offer code completion, including the big well-known names including PyDev plugin for Eclipse | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | MountainX: right, and I'm saying you *don't* need a python IDE | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: highly concurrent programming language used by Telco's for handling GSM Calls and stuff | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | used in other stuff as well | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | but it was developed by Ericsson primarily for GSM | 18:05 |
| MountainX | I don't need it as long as I want to use just IPython, but I find an IDE useful for my style of work. | 18:05 |
| shadeslayer | MountainX: you're coming from a C/C++ background right? :P | 18:05 |
| MountainX | I knew C/C++ around 20 years ago. I consider myself as starting from almost nothing now. Just learning Python. | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | MountainX: ok, trust me, you really don't need a IDE :P | 18:06 |
| shadeslayer | in python all you need are docs and a text editor | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | I had a *very* hard time starting with python because I was so used to IDE's | 18:07 |
| MountainX | I want a forms designer for sure. And once I have that, I might as well have the other stuff an IDE offers. | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | ah, a ui form designer, there's a separate app for that | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | QtDesigner or sth | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | so no need for a entire IDE :) | 18:08 |
| MountainX | why don't you like IDEs? | 18:09 |
| MountainX | stepping through code with a debugger is really helpful. IDEs make that easy. I'm not sure how to do that with just Kate. | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | MountainX: I use QtCreator extensively with C++ | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | so it's not that I don't like IDE's :D | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | but IDE's don't make sense with python, because python is .... different | 18:11 |
| MountainX | Python in interpreted. But an IDE is just as useful in Python as it is in C++ | 18:11 |
| MountainX | especially with a forms designer | 18:11 |
| MountainX | BTW, here is a good list of Python IDEs: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/81584/what-ide-to-use-for-python | 18:12 |
| * shadeslayer still disagrees with using IDE's for python, because they just slow people down when programming in python | 18:13 | |
| shadeslayer | also, top answer is vim, which is what I already suggested at the beginning of the discussion | 18:14 |
| MountainX | Integrated Python debugging (to name one example) doesn't "just slow people down". | 18:14 |
| shadeslayer | dunno, I usually use pydb and ! in vim | 18:15 |
| MountainX | I'm not willing to invest the time to learn vim (or emacs) because I'm not a full time developer. I want a solution that is easy to pick back up when I haven't touched it after a 2 or 3 month break. | 18:15 |
| MountainX | IDEs are good for reminding you what to do | 18:15 |
| MountainX | And Eclipse plus the PyDev plugin is the #2 recommendation from that stackoverflow thread, and that's what I came here asking about. I want to know if it is nearly as suitable as KDevelop for Python KDE dev work. | 18:17 |
| MountainX | If Eclipse plus the PyDev plugin is *almost* as good as KDevelop for Python work, I'll use it because I can also use Eclipse for Java and Android and some other things I want to dabble in. | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | I've never used Eclipse, so you'll have to experiment on your own there :) | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | Pretty sure it won't be able to handle ui forms | 18:20 |
| MountainX | OK. I'll check that and see what the options are for UI forms. Thanks. | 18:21 |
| shadeslayer | QtDesigner | 18:21 |
| shadeslayer | and iirc KDE has something for ui files as well | 18:22 |
| shadeslayer | don't use it, so don't remember the name tbh :P | 18:22 |
| MountainX | I just found this: http://popdevelop.com/2010/04/setting-up-ide-and-creating-a-cross-platform-qt-python-gui-application/ | 18:23 |
| shadeslayer | MountainX: I'm also not sure about using PyQt4, I personally favor PySide :P | 18:27 |
| MountainX | true, I like PySide better too. | 18:27 |
| shadeslayer | primarily because it had better support for QML and to a lesser extent, their site design | 18:27 |
| MountainX | One reason I liked PySide because there aren't two different language versions (so simpler for me) and the one version uses the newer slots and signals standard. | 18:29 |
| shadeslayer | ah cool | 18:29 |
| MountainX | OK, based on your feedback, maybe I'll just start with separate tools until I find an IDE I like. I can use IPython, Qt Designer, PySide, Kate, git, etc. But I'll have to figure out a good solution for code refactoring and integrated debugging... | 18:32 |
| shadeslayer | using Unix as a IDE ;) | 18:35 |
| MountainX | yeah, true. Why not? | 18:36 |
| MountainX | Where can I download Qt Designer? | 18:49 |
| jtechidna | apt-get install designer-qt4 | 18:49 |
| MountainX | duh! Thanks. Google was misleading me. | 18:50 |
| jtechidna | er, that's the wrong name | 18:50 |
| jtechidna | qt4-designer ;-) | 18:50 |
| MountainX | I'll find it with apt-cache search | 18:50 |
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| apachelogger | shadeslayer: actually I used w3m recently | 21:49 |
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