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marvelouzoneanybody on?01:24
bazhangmarvelouzone, yes?01:26
mydogsnameisrudynice to know your on bazhang ;_)01:32
skreech_I'm ON IT!!!01:35
kestenhas anyone ever heard of malware taking webcam photos in ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04?  How would you know if webcam has been activated?01:45
bazhangkesten, no. where did you hear this01:45
kestenI hear my webcam click several times a day.  I'm not using it.01:45
bazhangkesten, so no actual evidence01:46
mydogsnameisrudywants to know how to do this ;)01:46
kestenother than my ears telling me that the sound of a camera is going off no.01:46
bazhangthen no. no malware is doing that.01:46
bazhangmore likely a hdd is dying01:46
kestenhow would you explain the sound?01:47
bazhangI just did01:47
kestenghosts?01:47
bazhanghdd  <---- dying01:47
bazhangbackup and replace.  more help in ##hardware01:48
kestenhdd dying could trigger a camera click once or twice a day?01:48
kestenthe hdd was just replaced under warranty a month ago.01:48
bazhangclicking sound is from hdd. not some malware01:48
bazhangthey die all the time. even very new ones01:48
kesteninteresting.  Can i run a scanner of some sort?01:48
L3topkesten what kind of drive is it? You can probably use smartctl. touch /forcefsck and reboot will run a file system check... which can point out  a bad sectors etc... but... if its ticking, its a timebomb. I would try and clone it off asap.02:35
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su__is there a way to set drop box to open with dolphin? I have a kubuntu-desktop install over ubuntu in precise, and have been running KDE03:05
su__i'm kind of wishing i would have installed straight up kubuntu03:06
su__wondering if there's a text file somewhere that i could edit for the system tray icon03:08
su__or a default applications editor03:11
su__found that, dolphin is set to default. i could just unistall natuilus (heard that dropbox will work with dolphin now)03:17
su__ha uninstalled nautilus problem solved. i booted into gnome once and have not been back since03:23
su__always preferred dolphin anyhow03:24
su__tatafornow you all, hope i didn't sound like i have an attitude or something. just getting used to changes :o)03:32
su__cheers03:32
skreech_That was a cheerful chap04:07
Yankees52how can i change the KDE icon?04:08
skreech_Yankees52: Edit it I suppose?04:08
skreech_Is there any context to the question?04:08
Yankees52the kde icon menu button i mean04:08
Yankees52like change the kde icon to a picture of the NYY logo04:08
skreech_Sure04:09
skreech_Right click on it and choose options04:09
skreech_Or settings04:09
genii-aroundApplication Launcher Menu Settings...Options... Click on the K logo to choose another icon04:11
Yankees52you two are my niggas!04:12
Yankees52thank you!04:12
Yankees52now i have the yankees logo as my kde start menu04:12
skreech_:-)04:21
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rethusafter upgrade to 12.04 i have no mic anymore.06:04
rethusi unmute it in alsamixer, but doesn't work anymore.06:05
rethusany idea how i can ifix this?06:05
kroonrsrethus: I've had a similar problem before, and fixed it by unlocking the 2 channels, and making one zero06:17
kroonrsrethus: although that was in pulseaudio06:17
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rethus kroonrs:whatu did exactly in pulseaudio?06:45
rethushave you mic 1 and mic2 and mute one of them?06:45
lordievaderGood morning06:48
kkerwinHi. Anyone know anything about what happened to kregexpeditor?06:52
rethusquestion: if i open pavucontroll, and choose below in the listfield "All input Devices" on Tab Input-Devices, i also see my 7.1 Surroundsound-Device... thats that, thats are no input-devices... why there are listed there?07:02
SmurphyMorning.07:11
lordievaderHey Smurphy how are you?07:11
Smurphyhmmm .oO(DejaVu ?)07:12
lordievader?07:12
SmurphyFine - got a Cup of Coffee, Chat open, and work Env. too :) Wife making breakfast :)07:12
Smurphyu talked about thecup of Tea yesterday ;)07:12
lordievaderTea is good :)07:12
Smurphyyeah - depends on what kind of Tea it is. I tend to drink the White Tea from the region of Guang-Zi - but I don't find it here.07:13
lordievaderSmurphy: White tea is good indeed.07:14
SmurphyWeird - when I invoqe a "cd" from within the script - it won't change my shell to that directory.07:40
SmurphyAny chance I can force it to leave/exit me there ? in the new directory ?07:40
lordievaderSmurphy: I'm sorry, what is it exactly that you want?07:41
SmurphyI have a script (wortkLog), which I invoque with newev -c CustomerName07:42
SmurphyWhen that script execute - it checks for a directory structure of tha cvustomer. If it does not exist - it creates it, then start emacs with a template file.07:42
SmurphyOnly - usually Ihave things to copy/analyze in the Customer Directory - so I went newev to drop me into the Customer's Logs directory.07:43
SmurphyOnly - when invoquing the script from my $HOME, and having a cd CsrDir in the newev script - it will drop me back in my $HOME - as it's appaently not the same shell session I'm in07:43
lordievaderSmurphy: You do not mean something like this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/59838/how-to-check-if-a-directory-exists-in-a-shell-script07:44
lordievaderSmurphy: So if I get this right, what you want is a script that changes the dir for you?07:45
rethusgot a new 'Kubuntu'-wallpaper, i'd love it: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=11497307:45
rethuson my second 19 tft (right panel) it looks realy pretty, cause of the black borders on top and bottom. :)07:45
Smurphylordievader: yes. For my current shell07:52
Smurphylordievader: Nope - the directory structure checking and/or creation is working. Actually - when the script finishes - I just want to be dropped into the new directory base I created.07:52
Smurphypfff ... I like round edges on my wallpapers - like this one: http://www.scenicreflections.com/download/226233/Luis_Royo_(Tears_of_the_Millennium)_Wallpaper/07:53
Smurphy:}07:54
lordievaderSmurphy: Ok well I found a way to do that.07:54
Smurphyhow that ?07:54
lordievaderSmurphy: I have this code http://paste.ubuntu.com/1042046/07:55
lordievaderSmurphy: If I envoke it with ./<script> it will just print the command, but if I say $(./<script>) it will execute the output, in other words change to the dir from the echo command.07:56
troelsHi everyone. I installed Kubuntu 12.04 on an old laptop, and everything works fine - except I get no audio out from the internal speakers (I get audio if I pipe it to my USB headset with pavucontrol though). Anyone who can help with the internal speakers?08:00
Smurphytroels: Configure the audio settings -> Phonon -> Device preferences.08:05
lordievadertroels: Also check alsamixer that nothing is muted (nothing that shouldn't be atleast).08:06
troelsin alsamixer, it says MM if muted, right?08:09
lordievadertroels: Yes.08:10
troelsThought so. Well, that is not the issue then. And the Internal Audio device is also on top in the Phonon settings.08:11
lordievadertroels: Its a laptop I guess? There is nothing connected to the line-out?08:13
troelsI have a feeling it might be a driver issue. The laptop is a Toshiba Satellite Pro A120, and aplay -l tells me it is a ALC262 Analog device08:13
troelsNope, nothing connected to line-out08:13
troelshmm08:13
lordievadertroels: The line-out does work?08:14
troelsactually aplay -l also tells me about a Si3054 Modem, for which I have proprietary drivers available. Maybe that is it?08:14
troelsyes, line-out works in windows xp08:14
lordievadertroels: In winxp.. but does it work too in Kubuntu? You can give it a try, though it would be strange to call an audio device a modem...08:15
troelsI will try installing the proprietary driver and get back to you08:15
troelsno luck08:22
troelslordievader: I solved it, but what a weird solution! I had muted the sound in Windows XP, and appearantly that was the issue. I rebooted back into XP, unmuted the sound, rebooted into Kubuntu and now it works!08:38
hateballThat's really weird :D08:38
hateballakin to a kill-switch for wifi08:39
troelsyeah, I would never have guessed that could be an issue, got the idea from here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/7109608:40
hateballso somehow it must have a "physical" killswitch that the windows driver invokes then08:42
hateballrather than just setting volume to 0%08:42
* hateball makes a mental note of this08:42
hateballOne could wonder what would happen if you were to mute in Windows, then wipe the whole windows partition08:43
troelsyeah08:44
troelsin the thread I linked, the guy that to reinstall Windows XP inorder to unmute it08:44
troelsluckily I have XP on a second partition heh08:45
hateballthere is probably a way to send a signal to the card to unmute in Linux as well08:48
troelsyep there must be a bit somewhere that needs to be changed08:49
nicekiwihow do I tell if im running Nvidia or Nouveau drivers in KDE?08:57
nicekiwiplzzzz08:58
frogonwheelsWeirdness.  I have 2 machines running Ubuntu 12.04  (64bit).  If I run minecraft on machine A (and A:0 xserver) it crashes the xserver. If I run it on machine A via ssh from B  ( B -ssh-> A and B:0 as xserver) it crashes the xserver (of B).  If I run it on machine B (B:0 as xserver), it works fine, and if I run it on machine B via ssh from A (A -ssh-> B, A:0 as xserver) it works!09:05
frogonwheelsoh wait. different javas.. however ..09:07
hateballnicekiwi: well, "lsmod |grep nvidia" is one way09:09
* nicekiwi breaths deeply...09:10
frogonwheelsnope. not that.09:14
nicekiwihateball: cheers, its not installed and I can run 3D games xD09:16
hateballnicekiwi: nouveau is pretty decent these days09:17
nicekiwihateball: yeah :P stable ftw09:17
SmurphyAnyone got virtualbox (windows XP running inside) on KUbuntu 12.04 - and Audio working ???10:11
SmurphyAudio won't work here - no matter what I do, but I needd audio to do/participate to some trainings :(10:11
howlymowlyhi poeple.. short question:  I use dolphin to access a server using ssh. now the password on this server changed. but dolphin still tries to use the old password as I checked the "remember password" option. well.. how do I change the password now? I can not seem to find anything in the preferences  etc...10:11
Smurphypassword manager ? open it, check for that connection, and delete that entry. It will ask you a new password.10:14
Wizardhowlymowly: Wallet manager.10:14
howlymowlyWizard: thx.. thats what I was looking for10:14
WizardYou're welcome. And actually Smurphy was faster :)10:14
Smurphyanyoe has an answer to the sound problem ???10:14
howlymowlyoops.. sorry Smurphy  thx you too :)10:14
Smurphyno prob ;_)10:15
howlymowlySmurphy: me neither :(  sound works out of the box on my system with virutalbox10:15
Smurphycould you tell me how your sound-settings are configured in the Virtualbox inteface ?10:18
SmurphyHost Driver -> Pulseaudio or Alsa ?10:18
SmurphyAnd what Controller: Using ICH AC97 here.10:18
SmurphyInstalling latest virtualbox build. Maybe it will work after all ...10:34
Solakwhere are activities located?10:35
* Solak has 8 virtual desktops and wants the same activity on all 8 with different wallpapers.10:35
SmurphySolak: Not using activities. Sorry ...10:40
laubosslinkhi everybody10:54
laubosslinkthere is irssi command to list user in topic ?10:54
Smurphylaubosslink: /who *10:56
Smurphy?10:56
Smurphyusers in channel you mena.10:56
laubosslinkyes10:56
SmurphyThere are many.10:56
laubosslinkan example ?10:56
Smurphyjust type in in irssi: /who *10:57
laubosslinkthk :)10:57
Smurphynp10:57
scotsguyhey all10:57
Smurphyyo10:58
mydogsnameisrudymorning10:58
laubosslinkhi :)10:58
scotsguyim thinking changing from w7 to kubuntu11:00
mydogsnameisrudyhave you dual booted ?11:00
laubosslinki'm do it !11:00
scotsguyanyome gone down this road come across any isues11:00
laubosslinkit's perfect :)11:00
scotsguynot dual boot11:00
mydogsnameisrudytry dual boot then you have it if needed11:01
mydogsnameisrudybut i dont use it , well maybe 2 times in a year11:01
scotsguyi use my lapy for mostly to watch movies and surf11:01
mydogsnameisrudyah would work good for that11:02
mydogsnameisrudystill i would dual boot first11:02
scotsguyaww and i covert the odd movie to dvd11:02
laubosslinkwhat is the key to change email ? about me (cf. /set <the_email_key?> mymail@domain.tld11:05
nicekiwiheyyy im getting an error when I try to do an upgrade, i think its trying to upgrade the kernel? http://pastebin.com/DkeuS6j111:08
hateballnicekiwi: well you're getting a "device is out of space" error so...11:11
Smurphynicekiwi: No place on disk ...11:11
hateballdoes "df -h" tell you if that is indeed so?11:11
Smurphywas about to say so :}11:11
hateball:)11:11
nicekiwihateball: how do I fix that? my /boot partition is only 94MB and its used 84MB already.. somehow :/11:12
WizardWhat do you use for note taking? KJots?11:16
WizardI can't remember the alternative, also available in KDE.11:16
Smurphynicekiwi: remove some old kernels you don't use11:17
skreech_scotsguy: To be fair your needs will be different from other people's. What are your needs in W7 ?11:17
nicekiwiSmurphy: hmm.. theres only 3 there, remove the oldest two? should be ok?11:17
skreech_Wizard: Or the notes plasmoid11:18
Smurphynicekiwi: yup. REmove the oldest. If the newest works - I would leave only that one. How I do it.11:18
nicekiwiSmurphy: cool, is there a way to do that automatticly? Set a limit of older kernels to keep?11:18
hateballthere was talk of ubuntu implementing that generally... just keep the last two working kernels11:19
hateballbut you could write a script yourself that does that pretty simple I guess11:19
nicekiwiwould be nice.. for such situations..11:19
skreech_nicekiwi: Yes there is11:19
skreech_nicekiwi: You can also run sudo apt-get autoclean11:20
nicekiwiskreech_: :D reveal this to me oh powerful wizard!11:20
skreech_ or if you like sudo apt-get clean11:20
skreech_Also check your /var/log/ dir for run away logs11:20
skreech_ I've had like 60 GB of logs already11:20
hateballumm... that wont help much for installed kernels on /boot...11:20
nicekiwiskreech_: ^^11:21
hateballnicekiwi: but what I would do instead, is resize the partitions :p11:21
nicekiwihateball: ha ha yeah.. if only i had LVM :P next time11:21
hateballyou can always boot gparted-live11:21
nicekiwiis it easy-ish to do?11:21
skreech_nicekiwi: What are your partitions divided into ?11:22
nicekiwitrue.. but dosnt it still take ages to resize?11:22
hateballit can take a while resizing the partition after boot, sure11:22
nicekiwiskreech_: /boot 100MB, swap 1GB, / 220GBish11:22
hateballbut you're probably in for a headache if you do a release-upgrade and have such a small /boot11:22
hateballI dont bother separating /boot these days, can always repair grub with a live-cd anyhow11:23
nicekiwihateball: yeah.. i think id rather just start rocking LVM.. slightly name droppoing to sound cool lol, i hear such operations are relitivly painless with that kinda setup..11:23
hateballwell LVM is nice :)11:24
skreech_nicekiwi: :-)11:25
skreech_Relative is such a fun word11:25
skreech_It's the difference between sawing off your leg with a  hacksaw vs a chainsaw11:25
hateballnicekiwi: but live-booting and resizing your partitions is less of a headache than backing your system up and reinstalling it with LVM :p11:25
skreech_It's relatively easier but you are still losing a leg :)11:26
panxHello, my KDE (ubu 64) very crashing , what is last repo for KDE?11:26
skreech_panx: depends. What was the last repo you added?11:26
panxnone... clear installation11:26
panxand lart update ...11:26
nicekiwihateball: is true :P but this is a quite fresh install, i wont loose anything ;)11:26
panxfrom muon....11:26
panxafter reboot i've many crashes... so im ask about last repo for update packes....11:27
hateballWell, *what* is crashing?11:27
panxkde in fedora working perfectly.... ;f11:27
nicekiwihateball: w00t, successfully completed upgrade! :D11:27
panxkde desktop...11:27
hateballnicekiwi: :D11:27
panxits laki X restart...11:27
* nicekiwi shudders at the mention of the SELinux reptile.. 11:27
panxlike*11:27
nicekiwihateball: TAspring, here i come! xD11:28
nicekiwihateball: thanks for ur help :D11:28
hateballnicekiwi: You're welcome11:28
BluesKajHey all11:29
skreech_panx: Is X restarting or the desktop restarting?11:29
skreech_hi BluesKaj11:29
BluesKajhey skreech_11:29
panxskreech_, crashes of my KDE looks like X restart - first closin all , later black screen and all start for new.. and messanges lakike plasma desktop crashed... ;f11:30
skreech_If X restarts it will probably ask you to login again11:31
panxso meybe newest repo repair that...;f11:31
skreech_Unless you have autologin where you should get the splash screen11:31
hateballWell, things to try first is to disable stuff like 3D effects11:31
hateballWhat GPU chipset/driver do you use?11:32
panxah... its my 6x time try to Move on Ubuntu... with KDE11:32
panxfrom Fedora11:32
Wizardpanx: o_O11:33
panxWizard, o/11:33
WizardHi, panx.11:33
SolakSmurphy: n.p. it's a bit difficult to find info on how to copy widgets to several desktops.12:16
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gabraffIs there any repository to install kde 4.8.90 in kubuntu?13:03
WizardProlly.13:04
WizardLook at launchpad13:04
Wizardand...13:04
Wizard!ppa | gabraff13:04
ubottugabraff: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge13:04
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gabraffIs there any video editor to kde?13:15
Sentynelgabraff: kdenlive13:17
phoenix_firebrdi have some doubts in kde api, which channel i should head to?13:31
Riddellphoenix_firebrd: #kde-devel13:34
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: i am a beginner, will they support ?13:35
Riddellyes13:35
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: thank you13:35
CruX|hello which process is responsible for starting task manager when ctrl+esc is pressed ?13:36
CruX|in kde13:36
phoenix_firebrdCruX|: ksysguard13:36
CruX|phoenix_firebrd: yup thats it13:36
phoenix_firebrdCruX|: ya13:37
CruX|but it is not starting when ctrl+esc is pressed13:37
CruX|:(13:37
phoenix_firebrdCruX|: did you mess with the global hot keys?13:37
CruX|i killed some processes13:37
phoenix_firebrdCruX|: relogin or restart13:38
CruX|i cant :(13:38
BluesKajCruX|, open system monitor13:39
CruX|hmm13:40
CruX|is there a way how can I disable all aditional stuff in kde ?13:41
BluesKajCruX|, why ?13:41
CruX|i copied KDE from virtualbox into netbool with 1 GB ram13:41
CruX|after kde is started 400 MB is allocated!13:41
CruX|there are processes like akonandi, mysql which I don't need13:42
BluesKajCruX|, type akonadi into kmenu searchbar13:43
BluesKajyou can disable it there13:43
CruX|hmm I got crash :D13:45
jovinthe 12.10 alpha torrent is super slow... :(13:48
BluesKajjovin, yup , just try the html download , there aren't many ppl DLing so it's quite fast13:50
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BluesKaj, BBL13:53
laubosslinkhi :)14:24
laubosslinkhi, need help ! there is somebone ?14:28
DarthFrog!ask14:28
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:28
laubosslinkmy kubuntu loop (cf. x server)14:29
laubosslinkdon't know how to fix it !?14:29
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mr_ebolaHello Everyone ! Have a great day :D14:33
phoenix_firebrdany kde programmers here?14:36
phoenix_firebrdi have a doubt in a kde api14:37
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, whynot ask in #kde-devel or #kde14:39
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: kde-devel is sleeping14:39
BluesKajwake them up ! :)14:41
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: :)14:42
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: let me try in kde14:42
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Edwardf414Does anyone know where I can find reading material on kubuntu just did a hard switch from Mac (I am finally free)15:23
SmurphyEdwardf414: No docu. It just works :}15:25
Edwardf414Smurphy: good reply. So pretty much trial and error until I customize and get it running like I want/need?15:26
SmurphyIt is quite easy to get going with it.15:27
SmurphyHold on.15:27
SmurphyHmm. There is not: The perfect Desktop for Kubuntu yet.15:28
SmurphyJust the old verison here: http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-kubuntu-11.10 - but it helps maybe to understand what you need to do.,15:29
SmurphyThe repository names change a little though - as you probably have 12.04 by now15:30
greywalkhi, as far as i understand the theme that is used on kubuntu determines what icons are used as app icons, correct?15:30
Smurphygreywalk: yup.15:31
muraliPlease help. My computer seem to be slowing down a lot. even file transfers is takin a lot of tym15:31
genii-aroundEdwardf414: There is some pretty good info If you go to K-button...Applications... at the bottom is Help ( with a life preserver icon )15:31
greywalkcould you please tell where the theme files are stored? i suppose if i want i can substitute a specific icon with another one, correct?15:32
genii-aroundgreywalk: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/desktoptheme15:33
greywalkgenii-around: thank you15:35
genii-aroundgreywalk: You're better off to make another folder under there, copy all the contents of the theme you want to modify into that, then mess with it there and not in the original location15:36
greywalkgenii-around: yep, makes sense. will follow your advice. thanks15:37
Edwardf414Is kde-look.org the best place for themes?15:37
genii-aroundPretty much, yeah15:38
muraliPlease help. My computer seem to be slowing down a lot. even file transfers is takin a lot of tym15:38
L3topmurali: Sounds like network issue. http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch04_:_Simple_Network_Troubleshooting15:42
muraliL3top: but my internet is working fine15:43
L3topAre these transfers local?15:44
L3topOr across the network?15:44
L3topYour internet is not as fast as your network (safe assumption)15:44
muraliL3top: file copying from hard disk to external pen drives n vice versa15:46
muralialso tried with different pendrivs as well15:46
L3topThat bottleneck is the pen drive15:46
laubosslinkhi, i've problem with kubuntu at sarting, there is loading but i can't acces to the login panel. It's loading like a loop. Could you help me ? It's since i've use aptitude install... different driver for ati graphic15:47
ansgar_nis wine broken? I am trying to install wine on a 64bit install of 12.04 but I've got alll kinds of wine:i386 messages and dependencies that are left open.15:47
muraliL3top:also tried with different pendrivs as well15:47
L3topThat does not change the fact that the bottleneck is the nand.15:48
laubosslinknobody ?15:49
muraliL3top: so the solution?15:49
genii-aroundansgar_n: sudo apt-get install wine:i38615:50
L3topNeed more details murali. Is xfer the only performance hit?15:51
genii-aroundlaubosslink: Before it begins booting, do you get a grub menu?15:51
L3topWhat does top reveal while doing something that you find laggy?15:51
muralihavnt checked it.15:51
laubosslinkgenii-around: i've grub menu yes, my os start, but there is loop during graphic loading (i'm on tty1, on the same computer where there is problem)15:52
laubosslinkgenii-around: result, i've not my login panel to acces one the desktop15:53
ansgar_ngenii-around: this is the output from that command http://pastebin.com/PGVNEM6e15:53
laubosslinkgenii-around: moreover i've not /etc/X11 dir !? it's normal ?15:53
genii-aroundlaubosslink: Not having  /etc/X11 is abnormal, yes15:54
laubosslinkgenii-around: sorry i've, just look15:54
laubosslinkgenii-around: could i reset the X11 config ? how ?15:54
muraliLtop: i just started copying 5 gb, its taking approximately 10 min15:54
genii-aroundansgar_n: Please use apt-get and not aptitude. apt-get deals with multi architecture much better15:55
muraliL3top: i just started copying 5 gb, its taking approximately 10 min. opened top wat shud i be looking for?15:55
laubosslinkgenii-around: i've found a lot of topic who talk about use aptitde is better than apt-get !?15:55
genii-aroundlaubosslink: With the ati drivers, the usual way is with aticonfig from the command line, it configures the xorg.conf usually15:56
laubosslinkgenii-around: ok, i look15:56
ansgar_ngenii-around: http://pastebin.com/689Xh4dz unfortunately in this case, it's just less verbose15:56
genii-aroundansgar_n: Do you have some external repositories or so on?15:57
ansgar_nOnly the ones on by default in the alternate install cd. It's a brand new install.15:58
genii-aroundansgar_n: If you try sudo apt-get install wine1.4:i386    what is the result?15:58
ansgar_ngenii-around: http://pastebin.com/U7ufxKAw output from trying wine1.4:i38615:59
genii-aroundHm15:59
genii-around!info wine1.416:00
ubottuwine1.4 (source: wine1.4): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4-0ubuntu4 (precise), package size 932 kB, installed size 2579 kB16:00
genii-aroundansgar_n: Do you have universe repository enabled?16:00
L3topmurali: processor/memory pegging. It could very well be a bad memory module. Might reboot to live disk and run memtest16:03
muraliL3top: My desktop is of core i5, 4gb ram. will it be of any advantage to install 64 bit ubuntu 12.04 over 32 bit.16:04
L3topI doubt you would be able to tell any difference at all. Also with the PAE kernel you don't need to worry about RAM limitations on 32 bit anymore.16:05
ansgar_ngenii-around: yes i do16:05
genii-aroundansgar_n: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file16:06
muraliL3top: How can i use tht PAE kernel. Is it a default one with ubuntu 12.04?16:06
L3topI believe it is autosensing... but you can explicitly install it.16:07
ansgar_ngenii-around: http://pastebin.com/fJLvVZ91 here you go16:07
L3topmurali: uname -r16:07
muraliL3top: 3.0.0-17-generic-pae16:08
muralithis is wat i got16:08
L3topthat is what you want ;P16:08
muraliL3top: Thank you very much for ur help. I will run the memory tests. gudnite16:09
genii-aroundansgar_n: Ok, all that looks in good order. Did you do sudo apt-get update  or equivalent before trying to install wine, to get the latest lists?16:10
ansgar_nyes16:10
ansgar_ndoes aptitude and apt-get share lists?16:10
ansgar_nran it again with apt-get instead, same problems16:11
genii-aroundansgar_n: Yes, they share lists, it's all the same underneath16:12
ansgar_nthat's what I thought. this is so strange for a new install. I've confused things before by having other repos installed and not pinning things correctly but this is fresh.16:13
genii-aroundansgar_n: I think it may be due to previous install exiting with error, half-installed packages, etc. Perhaps try sudo apt-get -f install    to see if it clears up some backlog16:13
genii-aroundansgar_n: Is it chugging along?16:17
ansgar_nit came right back to prompt. It did report that I had 11 updates to apply. so i ran apt-get upgrade16:17
ansgar_nnow i'll retry wine16:17
ansgar_nno change16:18
genii-aroundansgar_n: sudo apt-get remove --purge wine      perhaps, then to try again. ...Were any of the upgrades kernel stuff? Might have required a reboot since16:19
ansgar_nthe kernel stuff was "kept back"16:19
genii-aroundHm16:20
ansgar_ni'm installing those packages manually. then i'll reboot and try again.16:23
ansgar_nbbl,16:25
ansgar_nthanks for your help16:25
genii-aroundansgar_n: From the wine1.4:i386 pastebin, looks like the particular version it wants might be the issue. the other stuff is just recommends and not depends16:25
genii-aroundMeh16:25
laubosslinkgenii-around: i've the same problem, after amd-driver-installer[..].run -buildpkg, and dpkg -i fglrx*.deb, and amd-config --initial -f16:41
genii-aroundlaubosslink: So you have been manually installing the package?16:42
genii-aroundeg: you didn't just install the fglrx driver from the repository16:44
laubosslinklaubosslink: yes16:45
laubosslinkgenii-around: yes16:45
laubosslinkgenii-around: from step1, i've follow http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Debian16:46
genii-aroundlaubosslink: I would suggest first to just use the fglrx driver from the restricted repository. If you need to manually install, also use the ubuntu dorections and not the debian, they differ16:47
laubosslinkgenii-around: i've the tty8, with kubuntu logo, and the point wich turn like a loop (sorry, i'm french)16:48
genii-aroundeg: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide16:48
laubosslinkgenii-around: will try, thank for your help !16:49
genii-aroundlaubosslink: To just get up and operating, I would suggest: echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main restricted" | sudo tee -a  /etc/apt/sources.list    then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install fglrx16:50
laubosslinkgenii-around: fglrx is already the newest version !16:52
genii-aroundlaubosslink: And so when the login screen comes up, it blinks a few times then exits, and then tries to reload again etc?16:53
laubosslinkgenii-around: there is no login screen comes up, there is loading page (with kde logo) wich continue without stop16:54
laubosslinkgenii-around: just the point blind without stop16:55
genii-aroundOK.16:55
laubosslinkgenii-around: look logs ?16:55
genii-aroundlaubosslink: sudo rm /var/log/Xorg.0.log && sudo touch /var/log/Xorg.0.log   ... then sudo service kdm restart     ... then pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.0.log  to see if it holds any clues16:57
genii-around!pastebinit16:57
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com16:57
aboudreaultIs kubuntu precise installer able to recover my ecryptfs home partition if I use LVM filesystem?16:59
laubosslinkgenii-around: http://paste.ubuntu.com/104264017:00
laubosslinkgenii-around: sorry this is my old xorg.conf ! after the command sudi service kdm restart there is not new Xorg file !17:01
genii-aroundlaubosslink: lines 104-108 indicate the fglrx driver is not installed properly17:02
laubosslinkgenii-around: http://paste.ubuntu.com/104264517:03
genii-aroundlaubosslink: sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx && sudo apt-get install fglrx17:04
laubosslinkgenii-around: it's not a problem if tty8 (graphic), continue to run ? and i remove fglrx17:06
genii-aroundlaubosslink: No worries17:07
genii-aroundWork, back in a few17:07
laubosslinkgenii-around: i've purge, and install, and after i've sudo service kdm restart but no Xorg log file17:07
laubosslinkgenii-around: restart the pc ?17:08
laubosslinksudo reboot17:13
laubosslinklol17:13
genii-aroundlaubosslink: Did you do the part: sudo touch /var/log/Xorg.0.log     ?17:13
genii-aroundlaubosslink: Did you do the part: sudo touch /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?     ( case sensitive )17:16
laubosslinkgenii-around: there is not this file.17:17
genii-aroundHm17:17
laubosslinkgenii-around: there is Xorg.0.log.old (paste bin link, that i've give you before)17:18
laubosslinkand the Xorg.0.log that i've delete, was empty17:18
laubosslinkgenii-around: it could be faster that reinstall, but i would like to understand ! lol17:19
laubosslinkgenii-around: (reinstall kubuntu)17:19
genii-aroundlaubosslink: Does result of apt-cache policy xserver-xorg                    show that it is actually installed?17:19
laubosslinkgenii-around: 1:7.6 yes17:20
laubosslinkgenii-around: installed17:20
L3toplaubosslink: can I get the output of lspci -nn | grep 'VGA'17:21
laubosslinkL3top: yes http://paste.ubuntu.com/104267417:22
L3toplaubosslink: and as I understand it you do have fglrx installed?17:23
laubosslinkL3top: yes i've17:23
genii-aroundL3top: Manually installed by the Debian instructions at cchtml17:24
L3toplaubosslink: what I would do, if you DO have an xorg.conf, is sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bu. then sudo ati-config --initial17:25
L3topoh manually installed.17:25
L3topwhat version?17:25
L3topoh.. nm... that chipset isnt affected by the latest drop.17:26
laubosslinkL3top: last version17:26
L3top12-5 dropped support for half the cards on the planet... but yours isn't one of them.17:27
laubosslinkjust to explain the situation i had an SSD, and it break this week end (before it work with control catalyst, with the 3 scren, and my video card)17:28
L3topHD 2xxx-4xxxx, Rx2xx-rx8xx  Xpress... etc etc are now dropped.17:28
laubosslinknoew i've buy a new ssd, do the same instructions (i think), and problem !17:28
laubosslinknow*17:28
L3topYou should not need anything outside of the repos.17:29
L3topapt-cache policy fglrx-amdcccle | grep Installed17:29
laubosslinkL3top: Installed yes17:30
L3topYou could try fglrx-amdcccle-updates if what we have done has not worked... do you now have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf and can you pastebin it please?17:31
laubosslinkL3top: i've not this command17:32
laubosslinkL3top: i've just fglrxinfo command17:32
laubosslinkL3top: and i've purge, fglrx, and after install17:32
L3topI do not understand.17:33
L3topLets start over, shall we?17:33
laubosslinkyes17:33
laubosslinkL3top: i've purge fglrx, after i've install fglrx, and now when i look for the command, i've just fglrxinfo command17:34
laubosslinkL3top: flrxinfo-amd... doesn't exist17:35
L3topok... to be clear... this is 1204 right?17:35
L3topI am about to give you a pastebin of commands.17:36
laubosslinkL3top: what is 1204 ?17:36
L3topbut they differ across versions.17:36
L3topwhat is the output of lsb_release -sc17:37
laubosslinkL3top: precise17:37
L3topprecise = version 12.04 for the record17:37
laubosslinkL3top: yes17:38
L3topyou can just copy and paste this whole thing into terminal, and then reboot. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1042698/17:39
laubosslinkL3top: i'm do it17:40
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laubosslinkL3top: same problem, give you the output of the commands17:55
laubosslinkL3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/104272517:56
laubosslinkL3top: i've no error during process17:56
L3topOk.. give me a second laubosslink.17:56
laubosslinkL3top: no problem :)17:57
fastaCan anyone recommend a non-broken music player with some decent features for Project Neon versions of KDE? The player could be GTK based; I don't care.17:58
fastaApplications which don't work according to my standards: Rhythmbox, Clementine, Juk (the amarok delivered in Project Neon). Plain amarok was fine.17:59
BluesKajVLC?17:59
fastaVLC is meant for different things.17:59
fasta(and also doesn't work with Project Neon)17:59
BluesKajit plays mostly anything17:59
fastaPerhaps this is a Project Neon problem.17:59
fastaVLC itself works without Project Neon.18:00
BluesKajpainted yourself into a corner with that project neon18:00
Tm_Tfasta: use stable Amarok?18:00
fastaTm_T: appears to be incompatible with project neon.18:01
fastaI don't really see why such dependencies exist however.18:02
Tm_Tcould you be more specific?18:03
fastaTm_T: some kind of dbus problem when I start it.18:04
fastaTm_T: this wasn't the case before project neon.18:04
fastaproject neon seems to better in all other areas.18:04
Tm_Tfasta: could you provide the exact error message? it's quite possible it's fixable18:16
laubosslinkL3top: are you there ?18:17
fastaTm_T: I am currently switching to Banshee now.18:17
Tm_Tallright18:17
fastaTm_T: I only need to configure a few media keys and it works.18:17
fastaTm_T: thanks anyway.18:17
Tm_Tfor the future, "doesn't work" tells nothing about the problem (:18:17
fastaTm_T: tell that to the developers ;)18:19
fastaTm_T: a good application should be able to tell exactly the kind of environment it needs when it starts.18:19
fastadbus seems like a good idea, but if it itself is not stable, it's just a nightmare.18:21
fastaIt's much better if every program has an associated daemon which listens to messages delivered via simple shell commands.18:22
fastaThis is what banshee does incidentally.18:22
fastaOr well, that's perhaps not true.18:22
fastaIn any case, it works.18:23
L3topsorry laubosslink, got pulled away on another project18:26
laubosslinkL3top: no problem :)18:26
L3toplaubosslink: We probaly should have started with "describe the problem to me" but I just came in half way and everything was half chunked... so at least we have a clean platform to start from.18:27
L3topSo what is the problem?18:27
L3topand can I see your /boot/grub/grub.conf?18:28
laubosslinkL3top: when the computer start, i've the logo KDE, with poin which blind (like a loop)18:29
fastaToo bad Banshee is also slightly buggy.18:29
laubosslinkL3top: but the login frame doesn't come18:29
fastaNot a huge problem in this case, though.18:29
laubosslinkL3top: I can't logged to acces on desktop18:29
L3topgotcha... let me see that grub conf.18:29
fastaStill, 10+ media players and not a single one which doesn't have a problem within 5 minutes of using it.18:30
laubosslinkL3top: 2minute18:30
laubosslinkL3top: what is the file ?18:30
L3top/boot/grub/grub.conf18:30
aboudreaultno18:31
aboudreaultgrub.cfg18:31
laubosslinkL3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/104277418:31
laubosslinkaboudreault: yeah thk :)18:31
L3topsorry... yes... thank you aboudreault18:33
aboudreaultnp18:33
fastaBanshee doesn't exit when you tell it to close.18:35
fastaThat's hilarious.18:35
fastaWhat's even more hilarious is that users defend this.18:36
fastaOk, so banshee is out too (another nogo bug found)18:37
fastaTm_T: Amarok could not find any collection plugins. It is possible that Amarok is installed under the wrong prefix, please fix your installation using:18:38
fastaTm_T: this is what stable Amarok gives me.18:38
laubosslinkL3top: grub seem to be ok ?18:38
L3toplaubosslink: in /etc/default/grub I want you to add          acpi=off radeon.modeset=0        to the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT18:39
L3topactually... it is probably smarter to try and boot with these additions first as a test18:40
L3topbefore permanently adding them18:40
laubosslinkL3top: i add ; to separe acpi=off; radeon.modeset=0 ?18:42
L3topSo boot to grub menu (press shift like a madman while booting) and edit the boot param to add those two lines, then press ctrl X a  and see what we have.18:42
L3topno just spaces18:43
L3topby two lines I mean two parameters, not lines18:43
laubosslinkL3top: i add now, or at the start ?18:43
L3topWe are going to test them before applying them18:44
L3topleave that /etc/default/grub line alone18:44
L3topreboot, pressing shift, pres tab or e (I dont remember it will say) to edit the command options, add them to the line, and ctrl X to save then boot18:44
laubosslinkL3top: i reboot18:45
laubosslinkL3top: i come back18:45
L3topIf it works, then add them to the /etc/default/grub at the line above.18:45
L3topok18:45
L3topIll be here18:45
BluesKajyou just have to hold the left shift key down right after the bios scrn to get the grub menu , and yes "e" is the edit key18:46
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qwhello all18:48
laubosslinkL3top: same probleme18:48
skreech_Hi qw18:49
L3toplaubosslink: were you able to log in before, without installing the ati drivers?18:49
qwadvise please what can be got system?18:49
laubosslinkL3top: yes of course18:49
L3toplaubosslink: Just have to go over everything to eliminate non driver related stuff.18:50
skreech_!doesntwork18:50
ubottuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.18:50
L3toplaubosslink: can you do the same thing but change the 0 to a 1? I will find the other one that it could be.18:50
skreech_Ah good that still exists18:51
qwLubuntu 12.10 Alpha [i386 + amd64] (2xCD) is good system?18:51
laubosslinkL3top: i'm do it again, it's acpi=off and radeon.setmode=1 ?18:51
L3topyes please.18:51
L3topcan probably drop the acpi=off18:52
L3topbut to be safe lets keep it18:52
laubosslinkL3top: drop = remove ?18:52
laubosslinkL3top: just reinstall kubuntu ! lol there is nothing which run19:02
laubosslinkL3top: if i will have same problem, come again ! Or make ubuntu topic's on the forum19:02
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laubosslinkL3top: thk for all !!19:02
laubosslinkgenii-around: thank for all too19:03
L3topno problems19:03
L3topI have company now too... so... if you have the same problem... I should be free19:03
BluesKaj!alpha | qw19:04
qwhm?19:04
BluesKaj!quantal19:04
ubottuUbuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) will be the 17th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+119:04
qwadvise please what can be got system?19:05
BluesKajqw, 12.10 is still in development , it's an official release , and is not stable19:05
BluesKajit's not official19:06
qwi am understand this19:06
qwprompt me please where I can disconnect a function that for me nebylo exit from the system if for me a mouse is inactive19:08
qwprompt me please where I can disconnect a function that I did not have an exit from the system if for me a mouse is inactive *19:09
L3topalt f4?19:12
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shanHi,Installing windows app with 'Wine' in Linux will work fine. it's showing target location 'C:' that's my Windows partition.?19:13
BluesKajqw .ctrl+alt+delete19:13
josy1982ja ne mogu vise19:14
genii-aroundshan: Not usually. More often it's a folder in your home directory that Wine thinks is it's hard drive19:14
rork!fr | josy198219:14
ubottujosy1982: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.19:14
rorkso he was kroatian...19:16
genii-aroundshan: eg: /home/your-username/.wine/drive_c19:16
shangenii-around: means, that's not the actual C:\program files......... location. it's just 'Wine' visualization.19:18
shanso it is safe to install with just clicking 'Next next & next and if there is again any' with my eye's closed.? :)19:19
shanWine isn't here > /home/your-username/.wine/drive_c19:25
BluesKajrork, his IP shows Frankfurt , but his post din't look like german to me:)19:26
rorkBluesKaj: his hostname is german indeed, I let google decide the language and it translated back from Croatian19:35
BluesKajrork, right :)19:37
shanhow to uninstall app installed by 'Wine'?19:37
genii-aroundshan: wine uninstaller     ..in terminal/konsole19:39
shanok19:40
shanyep, Thanks removed the app :)19:40
shanhttp://imagebin.org/21654719:50
Eddard414Has anyone ran kubuntu on Lenovo ideapad s205 laptop19:52
genii-around!laptop19:53
ubottuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org19:53
Eddard414Thanks19:53
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asfyxiaEddard414: Lenovo has a good reputation for running on (k)ubuntu. To be sure, take a live-CD to the shop. Mostly they are helpful with that, not to say quite curious and interested.20:26
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zapperhi22:10
zapperdoes anyone know why kubuntu 12.04 doesn't support mounting MTP devices?22:11
zapperin 11.04 i remember plugging my android phone in MTP mode and it worked out of the box22:11
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Elfonalo povo22:15
BarkingFish!pt | Elfon22:15
ubottuElfon: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.22:15
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uberdubcan someone please tell me why suspend to ram works in 10.04 but not 11.1 or 12.04???22:51
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uberdubany one?23:05
uberdubcan someone please tell me why suspend to ram works in 10.04 but not 11.1 or 12.04???23:17
uberdubwtf man, I dont get this. why are their so many issues with later versions? Isnt it supposed to get better as its developed?23:22
uberdubis their no one alive in here?23:24

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