| bkerensa | =/ | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| nigelb | mhall119: pong | 03:13 |
| mhall119 | nigelb: pleia2 and nhandler took care of me, thanks | 03:39 |
| nhandler | Someone should probably still look over it | 03:40 |
| nigelb | mhall119: ah cool | 03:46 |
| nigelb | what was wup? something classroom? | 03:46 |
| nhandler | nigelb: Yeah, Ubuntu App Developer Showdown workshops | 03:52 |
| nigelb | aha | 04:21 |
| nigelb | wow, pycon au has juju's engineering manager keynoting? that's cool! | 05:15 |
| dpm | hi all | 07:02 |
| hobgoblin | morning | 07:04 |
| jono | dpm, see your email :-) | 07:07 |
| jono | and bed for me now | 07:07 |
| dpm | jono, I started writing a reply a few mins ago | 07:07 |
| dpm | shit | 07:07 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:07 |
| dpm | oh well | 07:07 |
| * dpm rushes to finish the reply | 07:08 | |
| dpm | I'm sure he'll still read it | 07:08 |
| * jussi smacks dpm's hand... think of the children... ;) | 07:08 | |
| jussi | (and think of me, you making my hilights go off :P ) | 07:09 |
| dholbach | dpm, he might just collapse on the bed and pass out | 07:09 |
| dholbach | but maybe he still read it :) | 07:09 |
| dpm | :) | 07:09 |
| jussi | dholbach: bah, Jono is made of METAL, he doesn't need sleep! :D | 07:10 |
| dholbach | jussi, just some oil, right? | 07:15 |
| jussi | dholbach: yeah, about that :D | 07:15 |
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| czajkowski | morning | 08:00 |
| hobgoblin | morning czajkowski | 08:16 |
| === Gwaihir_ is now known as Gwaihir | ||
| popey | mhall119: how do i join that trello board if I want to add things? | 10:21 |
| popey | mhall119: my trello ID is "alanpope" | 10:21 |
| jussi | jcastro: ping | 11:12 |
| jussi | jcastro: this page is really, really unreadable: https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/about.html - hurts my head tbh | 11:13 |
| czajkowski | that is a wall of text alright | 11:14 |
| jussi | I dont know if its generated from elsewhere, but its pretty horrible, especially for an "about" page. | 11:14 |
| czajkowski | Last Generated on Jun 15, 2012. Created using Sphinx 0.6.4. | 11:14 |
| jussi | so anyone got a link to a nice, official page that I can pass to someone interested in Juju? | 11:15 |
| jussi | ahh, this page looks much better: https://juju.ubuntu.com/ | 11:16 |
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| mhall119 | popey: I thought there was a link to join | 13:27 |
| popey | mhall119: not that i could find | 13:29 |
| cjohnston | I thought you had to be added | 13:32 |
| mhall119 | popey: how about on here: https://trello.com/ubuntu | 13:35 |
| popey | what are you expecting me to see? | 13:36 |
| popey | (I use trello for something else, and have to add people) | 13:36 |
| popey | ok, i see lots of boards at that link | 13:37 |
| popey | and two of them have no green dot and no numbers next to them | 13:37 |
| popey | community team and upstream app developers | 13:37 |
| mhall119 | popey: that's the "ubuntu" organization on trello, if you are a member of that you should be able to edit the upstream apps board, I was hoping there was a way to join that | 13:38 |
| jcastro | just add him to the organization | 13:41 |
| jcastro | ok, added | 13:42 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: yeah, but I was hoping there was a way for people to join, or at least request to join, without having to email me | 13:43 |
| jcastro | hmm, not sure | 13:43 |
| popey | dont think so | 13:46 |
| popey | yeah, that worked, thanks chaps! | 13:46 |
| popey | you know I'm just going to add a giant list of apps ☺ | 13:46 |
| mhall119 | popey: great, you read about the email template and how to follow through with the contact too right :) | 13:47 |
| popey | heh | 13:48 |
| popey | uhm | 13:48 |
| mhall119 | dpm: so it seems we'll need people to email us to get on the trello board | 13:48 |
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| dpm | mhall119, iirc there is a setting on each board to allow members to join in themselves once they're part of an organization | 13:59 |
| dpm | let me check | 13:59 |
| mhall119 | dpm: there is, but no way for them to join the organization themselves, IIRC | 14:00 |
| dpm | right, yeah | 14:01 |
| mhall119 | dpm: I've added an extra step for people to email me | 14:02 |
| mhall119 | and I'll just add them | 14:02 |
| dpm | mhall119, ok, cool, sounds sensible, yes | 14:02 |
| jcastro | grrr | 14:16 |
| jcastro | I lost this branch already | 14:16 |
| jcastro | dholbach: what's the url to the code that generates the sponsorship queue? | 14:16 |
| jcastro | dholbach: nm, it's at the bottom of the page, hahah! | 14:27 |
| dholbach | :) | 14:28 |
| jono | dholbach, balloons, jcastro, mhall119, dpm all set? | 15:01 |
| jcastro | yup | 15:01 |
| mhall119 | yes | 15:02 |
| dholbach | yep | 15:02 |
| balloons | yee-haw! | 15:02 |
| jono | dholbach, balloons, jcastro, mhall119, dpm https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/e179fba5019fd0f2352f28767d9f3a4ebe6788ab?authuser=0&hl=en-US | 15:02 |
| dpm | jonining in... | 15:03 |
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| twobottux | aucommunity: How should I suggest a developer switch to an application indicator? <http://askubuntu.com/questions/65430/how-should-i-suggest-a-developer-switch-to-an-application-indicator> | 16:29 |
| dholbach | alright my friends | 16:43 |
| dholbach | I call it a day | 16:43 |
| dholbach | have a great WE everyone | 16:43 |
| jono | vote up please: http://www.reddit.com/r/ubuntuappshowdown/comments/v3ncm/although_recommended_quickly_is_no_longer/ | 16:45 |
| marcoceppi | jono: if i'm writing an app for the showdown, should I open a topic for it on the subreddit? | 16:46 |
| jono | marcoceppi, totally - give it a prefix of 'App Submission' | 16:46 |
| jono | e.g. 'App Submission: AwesomeApp' | 16:47 |
| marcoceppi | cool | 16:47 |
| popey | jono: "It should only depend on libraries that are available in the Ubuntu 12.04 Ubuntu archives." ☹ | 16:54 |
| popey | i wanted to make something that requires a python lib we don't have, so I was gonna bundle it in | 16:54 |
| jono | popey, sucks to be you :-) | 16:55 |
| popey | haha | 16:56 |
| popey | i dunno, with jcastro's team deliberately screwing up my juju charm to favour their own dudes winning.. and now this.. | 16:56 |
| popey | time to boycott the community | 16:56 |
| popey | :p | 16:56 |
| jono | popey, seems about time to :-) | 16:56 |
| jono | usually happens about once a year | 16:57 |
| popey | twice | 16:57 |
| popey | i just dont tell you about the other one | 16:57 |
| jono | popey, note how it says "depends" you can include bundled libs :-) | 16:57 |
| jono | hah | 16:57 |
| popey | excellent | 16:57 |
| * popey unboycotts | 16:57 | |
| jcastro | popey: hey man, TESTING. | 16:57 |
| jcastro | :) | 16:57 |
| popey | yeah yeah | 16:58 |
| jcastro | jono: try not to ruin popey's entry, he might like get your mailing list deleted or something | 16:58 |
| snap-l | │ lotia | 16:58 |
| snap-l | http://inversephase.bandcamp.com/album/pretty-eight-machine | 16:58 |
| jono | jcastro, ahhh that old chestnut | 16:59 |
| jono | keep on rolling it out jcastro ;-) | 16:59 |
| jcastro | I am like meat and potatoes | 16:59 |
| jcastro | same thing, every day | 16:59 |
| jono | hah | 16:59 |
| jcastro | you know | 16:59 |
| popey | haha | 17:00 |
| jcastro | if it didn't suck so bad | 17:00 |
| jcastro | this would have been an awesome use of brainstorm | 17:00 |
| jcastro | for app ideas, etc. | 17:00 |
| snap-l | jcastro: That's what reddit is for | 17:00 |
| popey | "Make angry birds" | 17:00 |
| popey | + | 17:00 |
| popey | + | 17:00 |
| popey | + | 17:00 |
| popey | etc | 17:00 |
| snap-l | It's like Brainstorm done right | 17:00 |
| jcastro | can we put the ideas in the subreddit? | 17:00 |
| jcastro | or is that for app submissions? | 17:00 |
| jcastro | "Better joke generator for Jorge" would be a 5 star app, clearly. | 17:01 |
| popey | "Mailing list deletion tool for popey" | 17:02 |
| balloons | popey, unroll.me? | 17:57 |
| jono | if anyone is interested: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments/Specs/Mobile | 18:40 |
| bkerensa | jono: maybe tomorrow at our Bug Jam/ Debian BSP I can get some more people to test accomplishments | 18:47 |
| bkerensa | :D | 18:47 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: were using the build juju-charm again tomorrow to roll out package building instances :D | 18:48 |
| jcastro | nice! | 18:48 |
| jcastro | the sbuild one? | 18:48 |
| jcastro | hey something I could use, is a step by step on how to use it in that instance | 18:48 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: yeah the sbuild... kees is going to deploy some instances for those of us doing packaging for stuff that needs work in 12.10 and also some Debian work ;) lots of commits coming tomorrow | 18:55 |
| jcastro | yeahw | 18:58 |
| jcastro | we're just the missing the "here's how you an ubuntu developer could use this" | 18:58 |
| jcastro | so people applying for hp cloud accounts know how to use it | 18:58 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: I don't know how useful it would be for a Ubuntu Developer.... It seems to work great for BSP/Jams but plenty of developers have chroot | 19:03 |
| bkerensa | this works good in scenarios when we are roping non-Ubuntu and Debian devs in who want a crack course on packaging or wanna do work but dont have chroot setup | 19:04 |
| jcastro | plenty of people have older computers though | 19:04 |
| jcastro | App idea: Application that replaces "Daniel Holbach" images and text with "deadmau5" | 20:11 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: I'd upvote it | 20:33 |
| bkerensa | :D | 20:33 |
| jussi | jcastro: did you see my complaint earlier? | 20:49 |
| jcastro | no | 20:49 |
| jussi | [14:13:44] <jussi> jcastro: this page is really, really unreadable: https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/about.html - hurts my head tbh | 20:49 |
| jussi | [14:14:18] <jussi> I dont know if its generated from elsewhere, but its pretty horrible, especially for an "about" page. | 20:49 |
| jcastro | holy lol | 20:50 |
| jcastro | ok I can fix that | 20:50 |
| jussi | :) | 20:50 |
| mhall119 | jono: would you reddit http://mhall119.com/2012/06/why-you-should-download-for-ubuntu/ please | 21:12 |
| jono | mhall119, one sec | 21:24 |
| jono | http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/v426j/why_you_should_download_for_ubuntu_michael_halls/ | 21:24 |
| jono | mhall119, did you see we hit /. ? | 21:27 |
| jono | :-) | 21:27 |
| balloons | do people even know you can use quickly to do non-gtk apps? | 21:32 |
| jcastro | hey bkerensa | 21:37 |
| jcastro | are the subway guys going to oscon? | 21:37 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: idk | 21:37 |
| bkerensa | let me check | 21:37 |
| jcastro | yeah I'd love to know | 21:37 |
| jono | mhall119, are we good to go for the Monday sessions? | 21:42 |
| mhall119 | jono: yes, and Tuesday, but Monday of next week we need someone to do the multimedia session | 22:01 |
| mhall119 | jono: which hit slashdot, the contest? | 22:01 |
| jono | mhall119, ok cool | 22:02 |
| jono | yep, the contest | 22:02 |
| jono | mhall119, so we have both python sessions covered? | 22:02 |
| mhall119 | nice | 22:02 |
| mhall119 | jono: if I don't hear from Stuart I'll run them both | 22:03 |
| jono | mhall119, ok | 22:03 |
| bkerensa | jono: I shot you a e-mail about OSCON was just wondering if it got to ya? | 22:03 |
| jono | bkerensa, it did, I haven't responded yet | 22:03 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: petersed says he hopes to drop by OSCON | 22:03 |
| mhall119 | he's traveling until this weekend, from what I've been told, so I don't know if he'll do it or not | 22:03 |
| jono | been hectic | 22:03 |
| jono | bkerensa, will respond soon | 22:04 |
| bkerensa | jono: understandable just wanted to make sure it didnt hit spam... no worries at all :) | 22:04 |
| jono | thanks bkerensa | 22:04 |
| bkerensa | jcastro: I would really encourage you to hit up PuppetLabs party while at OSCON.... You could push Juju ;) | 22:04 |
| bkerensa | they also have good beer | 22:04 |
| balloons | is anyone running quantal right now that cares to verify an exotic bug for me? | 22:24 |
| cjohnston | balloons: whatcha got | 22:42 |
| balloons | cjohnston, hah.. this craziness: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libio-socket-ssl-perl/+bug/1013883 | 22:43 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1013883 in libio-socket-ssl-perl "www::mechanize doesn't connect to some XHTML 1.1 sites using ssl" [Undecided,New] | 22:43 |
| balloons | I want to see if I'm the only one, or if you could reproduce | 22:43 |
| balloons | are you on quantal? | 22:43 |
| balloons | if so, sudo apt-get install libio-socket-ssl-perl libwww-mechanize-perl and then run the attached perl script | 22:44 |
| balloons | look at it first of course (can't trust this balloons guy)! it's real simple, tries to connect to a mobile site | 22:44 |
| balloons | that will fail to connect and after a wait, it will timeout | 22:44 |
| balloons | if it connects for you and works, then I'm crazy and my box hates me | 22:45 |
| MrChrisDruif | balloons; what script? | 22:47 |
| balloons | MrChrisDruif, it's attached to the bug report.. here; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libio-socket-ssl-perl/+bug/1013883/+attachment/3191426/+files/wwwtest.pl | 22:48 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1013883 in libio-socket-ssl-perl "www::mechanize doesn't connect to some XHTML 1.1 sites using ssl" [Undecided,New] | 22:48 |
| cjohnston | bug 1013883 | 22:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1013883 in libio-socket-ssl-perl "www::mechanize doesn't connect to some XHTML 1.1 sites using ssl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013883 | 22:50 |
| MrChrisDruif | So a wget should get it? | 22:50 |
| cjohnston | stupid bot | 22:50 |
| balloons | heh, the bot really spammed text in there | 22:50 |
| balloons | MrChrisDruif, cjohnston yes. That script uses www::mechanize module in perl (which depends on io::socket::ssl) to issue a connection to an xhtml 1.1 mobile site | 22:51 |
| balloons | under precise using the older version of the libio-socket-ssl-per the script works and exits properly (showing you a dump of the html source) | 22:52 |
| balloons | under quantal it never connects and simply times out | 22:52 |
| balloons | for me at least | 22:52 |
| cjohnston | bug 1013883 | 22:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1013883 in libio-socket-ssl-perl "www::mechanize doesn't connect to some XHTML 1.1 sites using ssl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013883 | 22:53 |
| cjohnston | it must have it cached | 22:53 |
| cjohnston | balloons: refresh | 22:53 |
| balloons | cjohnston, :-) | 22:53 |
| MrChrisDruif | I guess that "perl wwwtest.pl" should do it? | 22:53 |
| MrChrisDruif | "Error GETing https://online.americanexpress.com/myca/mobl/us/login.do: Can't connect to online.americanexpress.com:443 at wwwtest.pl line 9" | 22:53 |
| MrChrisDruif | So I guess that confirms it? | 22:54 |
| balloons | MrChrisDruif, yep, that's the issue | 22:54 |
| MrChrisDruif | Alright, marked as affected balloons | 22:55 |
| balloons | if you do the same thing on a precise install, it works and prints the americanexpress.com mobile html site | 22:55 |
| balloons | thanks for helping guys.. I was gunshy about reporting.. | 22:55 |
| balloons | normally it's just me finding such craziness | 22:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | You've found an actual flaw, it's okay to report those ;-) | 22:56 |
| MrChrisDruif | Did anyone else bytheway have any issues with ubuntu taking forever to boot after an update of network-manager, also in quantal? | 22:57 |
| cjohnston | no | 22:58 |
| MrChrisDruif | It was with the update around 23-05-2012 | 22:58 |
| MrChrisDruif | 23rd or 24th | 22:59 |
| cjohnston | balloons: seen my bug? bug #1013171 | 23:00 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1013171 in shadow "Many package hooks not ported to python3" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013171 | 23:00 |
| balloons | nice.. when did you upgrade? | 23:01 |
| balloons | last night/ | 23:01 |
| balloons | tell me you didn't | 23:01 |
| cjohnston | on computer was a dist-upgrade that triggered it, the other I have been trying for a couple of days on a dummy partition.. till i figured all that out | 23:02 |
| cjohnston | there isnt anything saying dont upgrade | 23:02 |
| cjohnston | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/quantal_probs.html is a horrible representation right now | 23:02 |
| balloons | literally you did last night? | 23:04 |
| balloons | wow | 23:04 |
| balloons | worst timing all cycle | 23:04 |
| cjohnston | i did it yesterday afternoon | 23:04 |
| balloons | they landed all sorts of python 3 craziness yesterday | 23:04 |
| cjohnston | i know | 23:04 |
| balloons | lolololol | 23:04 |
| * balloons falls out of chair | 23:04 | |
| cjohnston | well.. apport landed 2 days ago and started the problem | 23:04 |
| cjohnston | this was a massive fail | 23:05 |
| cjohnston | this stuff should have all landed together | 23:05 |
| balloons | yes.. it's been all week | 23:06 |
| balloons | :-) | 23:06 |
| balloons | anyways.. glad your on quantal | 23:06 |
| balloons | and glad your filing this stuff | 23:06 |
| balloons | that's a really nice bug you got though.. | 23:06 |
| * balloons is jealous | 23:06 | |
| cjohnston | lol | 23:07 |
| cjohnston | I only have one machine on quantal because of this :-( | 23:07 |
| * cjohnston is going to find dinner | 23:08 | |
| cjohnston | o/ | 23:09 |
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