[00:00] fire at West Oakland BART at 2AM this morning shut down BART service across the bay for about 12 hours but trains are running again now. [00:01] damn [00:01] do they know what caused the fire? [00:04] https://twitter.com/#!/sfbart had this link with details and a picture: http://1.usa.gov/M0tQxG [00:26] A hacker group using ISO-8859-1, wtf is this http://www.2600.com/news/view/article/12237 [00:58] http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jun/12/google-searchengines [02:37] bkerensa, I gave up on it, I have instructions for 3months though [02:46] Pasadena Ubuntu Hour a success with 9 people this time around! wooohooo. Now at the local LUG to learn about Ruby [02:49] yay [02:53] how are you akk [02:53] did the venus event happen already? [02:53] yep! it was last week, and it was really fun. [02:54] better than the lunar one? [02:54] i loved the shadow photos all on the net [02:54] Good question. I liked both of them [02:54] and having both of them so close together, and both close to be geographically, was just too excellent. :) [02:55] Venus was maybe more exciting because it's such a rare event -- but OTOH I'd gone my whole life so far without seeing an annular eclipse either. [02:58] i remember in the 80s my brother drove his friends and i down baja to cabo for some event. lunar or solar. i dont remember but it was a big event [19:55] bkerensa, future advice- dont attack Nixie for her choice of clothes- it makes you look really bad, and rather un-enlightened [19:56] MarkDude: Like I told you I am done discussing this matter with you. You got across the point that you think sexual objectification of women is ok and I strongly disagree. [19:56] You are the person commenting on Nixies looks [19:57] its not fair that it would be ok if she were ugly [19:57] now go read up on 101 [19:57] She made a CLI video [19:57] far more technical than many have done [19:57] You started a debate- then left [19:58] in a not favorable manner [19:58] I am not favorable of sexual objectification of women. You got that part right. [20:01] wheres the video? [20:03] * MarkDude can share log later [21:11] * MarkDude will PM log if anyone wants- it pertains to California folks [21:12] will be in cali-ot [21:14] what a woman wears is her own business, and the business of other girls that talk behind their back ;) [21:15] *behind her back [21:21] she doesnt exactly communicate with people [21:21] oh come on [21:22] she doesnt? [21:22] thats just something that rude to say [21:23] I don't know the people, so I am going to shut up on this [21:26] scientes, you can meet her on the 23rd in Walnut Creek and decide for yourslef [21:26] She is rather bright [21:26] link? [21:26] about event [21:27] MarkDude, and I don't like how bkerensa is judging her behind her back [21:27] Ben means well [21:28] that has NEVER been in doubt on my part [21:28] He is a really cool great person [21:28] And a huge asset to both Ubuntu and Linux in general [21:28] The only reason I push it- is the same happened to me a while ago [21:28] I was making points about Go Daddy [21:29] and how much I dont like them [21:29] During which I made a comment about their attractive racecar driver [21:29] It was made very clear to me- her looks had no bearing on anything [21:31] well, their "attractive" racecar driver is almost so textbook its a hyperbole, IMHO at least [21:31] except that its not, and in that way it is certainly objectification [21:32] * MarkDude has decided this is an area I will let women comment on [21:32] Clothing is not equal for us [21:32] A man can own 3 suits his whole life and be fine [21:33] Women have other standards- they understand better and IMO are more able to comment if they choose to [21:33] Example: when people attacked Sarah Palin about her outfits- I thought that was unfair- go after her policies [21:34] Being apolitical here- just that men talking about her clothes seemed not fair- to me [21:34] that sounds like a fair statement [21:34] in general talking behind peoples back is not productice nor nice [21:37] He would not do that tho [21:37] He is very fair [21:37] and would be willing to directly debate her [21:37] Ben is really fair [21:37] Wow, she taught me stuff i didn't know about find [21:37] I broguht her name up - he reacted [21:38] Anytime Ben has an issue- he is willing to be direct with that person [21:38] He is a very stand up person [21:38] * MarkDude cant say that enough [21:38] * MarkDude now knows how he was when he first started learning nuance as far as geek feminism [21:39] It lead to a process- and just a few years ago- I decided to identify myslef as a FEMINIST [21:41] WOAH [21:42] oh shes great, "what would you change if you had the source code to the world" [21:42] thats awesome [21:45] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49yPxmB98hI&feature=relmfu [21:45] 1. GUI Option Available for All CLI Tasks [21:45] hahahahaa [21:45] come to the dark side of learning the power of CLI ahhahahahhahaha [21:49] She has been using all sorts of Distros for a while [21:50] Her favorite being Mint [21:50] She has taken people that were gamers - and got them interested in Linux [21:50] by definition she is a Linux advocate [21:51] One that has recruited more than most of us [21:53] I would like to see the ability to use IOMMU hardware to put windows in a virtual machine with NATIVE graphics be better advoted, and streamlined so a linux newbie could successfully set it up [21:54] like, take an existing computer that has intergrated AND dedicated graphics, and IOMMU hardware, install keeping windows, and boot linux, then assign the graphics card to windows, and boot [21:54] done [21:54] to do this smoothly some primary vga stuff from xen needs to be ported to kvm [21:55] and also way too many people are using sub-part virtualization platforms IMHO (virtualbox and vmware), instead of virt-manager+kvm which provides a better experiemence [21:55] virt-manager needs to be more prominent [22:05] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F17_Bay_Area [22:06] The next geeknic will be Ubuntu Cali and BAMF togehter [22:06] * MarkDude was able to get funding for this party :) [22:08] https://www.facebook.com/events/300921919994599/ [22:09] FB link if anyone wants to RSVP- otherwise- just let me know- so we can figure how much food to get [22:23] I jut added it to my calendar [22:23] now how am i suppose to get there via the bart? [22:26] Yep [22:26] Call me and we can get a ride the rest of the way [22:27] we have shuttles [22:27] * MarkDude PMs # [22:27] or you can type my mark terranova into google- my number is on the 1st site [22:36] Anyone here familiar with mutt, perchance? [22:53] jyo, i've used it, but not much [22:53] it uses tyokocabinet [22:53] *tkoyo [22:53] tokyo [22:56] When I try to sent mail, writing a copy to +.Sent (maildir) errs out with 'No such file or directory'. [22:56] well that is a error from libc, and it means, well, the directoriy doesn't exist [22:56] so create it [22:57] Yep, .Sent with cur new temp dirs [22:58] More specifically: /home/james/Maildir/.Sent/tmp/cur.1339801070.3353_2.domainname:2,S: No such file or directory (errno = 2) [22:59] of course, domainname is not actually domainname. [23:00] hmm i have no ide