[00:00] <agc93> ActionParsnip: Brave. Definitely brave.
[00:00] <kyan> agc93: hmm. oh well that's life I guess. :P
[00:00] <wubino> can anyone tell me how to find the install directory of a program?
[00:00] <sabayonuser__> when i turn on my pc i get this input not supported for few secs
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> sabayonuser__: it's not very like apple
[00:00] <kyan> agc93: this is offtopic :P
[00:00] <WilsonBradley> thank you
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> agc93: my hardware is super Linux compatible, Quantall has been pretty good so far
[00:00] <sabayonuser__> i did not have this input not supported in 10.10
[00:00] <agc93> wubino: whereis <program-name> from the terminal
[00:00] <kyan> agc93: rofl, just saw your message to sabayonuser__
[00:01] <WilsonBradley> not able to join /join #ubuntu+1
[00:01] <fishbait>  my shceme so far /home, /tmp /var 1/2 /swap on 500gb and os on 1/2 /swap 80gb okay for  solid performance and insuring plenty of temp space and space for downloads will this work?
[00:01] <sabayonuser__> hey man can u solve this input not uspported thing
[00:01] <fishbait> *os and 1/2 swap on 80gb
[00:01] <agc93> fishbait: 80GB is an awful lot of swap!
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> sabayonuser__: the kernel timings have been moved into the kernel
[00:02] <agc93> fishbait: how much have you allocated?
[00:02] <wylde_> WilsonBradley: you made a post in there.....how do you figure you're unable to join?
[00:02] <sabayonuser__> what can i do
[00:02] <fishbait> 4.4 gb on each drive.
[00:02] <MonkeyDust> fishbait  5-10GB should be enough
[00:02] <rhizmoe> what is a good way to start a desktop app from the command line without it spoo'ing to stdout, is there a better way than >/dev/null 2>&1 ?
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> sabayonuser__: what is teh output of:  lspci | grep -i vga
[00:03] <WilsonBradley> hu?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: you only need at most 9Gb swap
[00:03] <relondo> My laptop doesn't recognize my keyboard on startup. I had this problem before and was working on finding a solution, but at first, a reboot would fix it. Now it's totally broken.
[00:03] <Jordan_U> agc93: The old wisdom was twice as much as RAM, but that's been obsolete for a while now so you can go much lower than even 2X RAM.
[00:03] <sabayonuser__> command not found
[00:03] <fishbait> mmhmm and i have 8GB of ram
[00:03] <wubino> agc93: what about   hadoop/conf ?  is there a directory matching search?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> relondo: want to tell us the make and modelof the laptop?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> sabayonuser__: it is, you aren't typing it right
[00:03] <WilsonBradley> wylde: I dont' see a chat tab for #ubuntu+1
[00:04] <sabayonuser__> its actually not a problem
[00:04] <agc93> wubino: I don't know. Whereis has always done the job for me
[00:04] <relondo> actionparsnip: Sure thing. It's a Toshiba Satellite L-775D.
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> sabayonuser__: Linux is very case sensitive. Don't change the command in any way
[00:04] <wubino> Thanks every bit helps
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> relondo: why did you not state that in the initial question?
[00:04] <relondo> actionparsnip: Didn't know that it was important. Trying to be concise. Sorry.
[00:04] <sabayonuser__> hey man can ny1 tell me how to compile a kernel so that booting improves
[00:05] <sabayonuser__> what is this custom kernel
[00:05] <NotJimCarrey> trying to launch xbmc on ubuntu but getting "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'dbiplus::DbErrors'" anyone know how to fix this?
[00:05] <wylde_> WilsonBradley: ok, nvm that anyway. Installing an alpha version is not at all an ideal approach to fixing a problem. Running alpha version will guarantee things will break.
[00:05] <MonkeyDust> sabayonuser__  if there were a way, the kernel developpers would have used it
[00:05] <Jordan_U> sabayonuser__: What about booting do you expect to improve if you compile your own kernel?
[00:05] <fishbait> how big should /tmp and /var be?
[00:05] <WilsonBradley> what do you suggest?
[00:05] <sabayonuser__> once i read custom kernel improves whole performance ;p
[00:06] <WilsonBradley> If I could fix the standby problem , then I could live with it until and upgrade is relased
[00:06] <sabayonuser__> idk just asked if it is comman line then no nneed
[00:06] <sabayonuser__> irc is pretty cool nice chat
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> relondo: run:  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub    find this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"     and change it to:    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i8042.nomux=1 i8042.reset"     save the new file, close gedit then run:  sudo update-grub     reboot to test. Source: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Toshiba_Satellite_L775D_S7340#Touchpad_and_keyboard_are_not_working
[00:07] <MonkeyDust> sabayonuser__  i guess #ubuntu-offtopic is more what you want
[00:07] <sabayonuser__> hey when did mint overtake ubuntu in distrowatch :O
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> sabayonuser__: dude, you can't even run CLI commands. I wouldn't start messing with kernels
[00:07] <wylde_> he's been told a few times alreay MonkeyDust
[00:08] <relondo> actionparsnip: Thanks so much. I need to remember that website.
[00:08] <sabayonuser__> hey mint overtook ubuntu
[00:08] <OerHeks> sabayonuser__, stick to real support questions. mint is offtopic.
[00:08] <L3top> !ot | sabayonuser__
[00:08] <MonkeyDust> sabayonuser__  please stop, type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> relondo: or just the boot options.... Could add it to your backup in case of reinstall :)
[00:08] <Jordan_U> sabayonuser__: This channel is for Ubuntu support discussion only, this is your last warning to stay on topic.
[00:08] <sabayonuser__> mint is bad distro it copies ubuntu and installs codecs lol
[00:09] <sabayonuser__> lol mint is no. 1 :O
[00:09] <agc93> Thanks Jordan_U!
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> sabayonuser__: and a custome kernel isn't necessarily faster, just like a custom car isn't always faster than mass produced
[00:09] <relondo> actionparsnip: Wait, what now?
[00:09] <L3top> It is a credit to Ubuntu that the mentally challenged are able to install it.
[00:10] <agc93> L3top: but also a curse for Ubuntu's support channels!
[00:10] <L3top> oh smithw... sorry buddy I forgot you. let me get back to that
[00:10] <sabayonuser__> hey man waht happened
[00:10] <Jordan_U> L3top: That type of comment is disrespecful in many ways and is not acceptible here.
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> relondo: what step are you up to?
[00:10] <agc93> sabayonuser_ you need to keep offtopic posts to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:10] <smithw> L3top, np, I can be patient :)
[00:10] <sabayonuser__> where is that
[00:11] <MonkeyDust> sabayonuser__  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:11] <relondo> actionparsnip: Haven't done any of it. I just realized that I'm still installing Java on there :/
[00:11] <wylde_> sabayonuser__:  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:11] <sabayonuser__> yaa joined
[00:11] <agc93> its a different channel, same as you joined #ubuntu, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:11] <sabayonuser__> u all dere
[00:11] <relondo> actionparsnip: So I'll try it out in about fifteen minutes and get back to you.
[00:11] <MonkeyDust> sabayonuser__  now type /part in this channel
[00:12] <sabayonuser__> u guys also join this channel
[00:13] <agc93> sabayonuser__: this is a support channel, offtopic is for discussions
[00:13] <pengw> hi all
[00:13] <pengw> what is the second line represents in 'free' command?
[00:14] <agc93> what does the second line say on your screen?
[00:14] <pengw> -/+ buffers/cache  884 7075 what is this ?
[00:15] <agc93> if I remember correctly, those are your kernel buffers
[00:15] <pengw> but the first line already told me that
[00:15] <wylde_> agc93: yep, that's exactly what 'man free' says
[00:15] <agc93> no the first line is all of your RAM memory
[00:15] <agc93> the second is kernel buffers
[00:15] <agc93> and the third is swap space
[00:16] <agc93> at least on my 12.04 box, thats the case
[00:16] <pengw> sure but the first line also told you buffers and cached
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> pengw: can you pastebin all the text, it may be clearer, you can even use:  free -m \ pastebinit
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> oop
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> free -m | pastebinit
[00:18] <pengw> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1041681/
[00:19] <agc93> pengw: yours look a little different to what I was thinking.
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> pengw: you have 8Gb ram and using 1.2Gb, you have 8Gb swap and using none
[00:21] <pengw> thx
[00:21] <pengw> i got it
[00:21] <pengw> the second line is the one that ignore the cached and buffer I have how many ram
[00:22] <WilsonBradley> simple question.. is a swap partition nessesay for Hibernation to work?
[00:22] <wylde_> WilsonBradley: yes, and it must be at least equal to the amount of ram
[00:23] <WilsonBradley> ok, thanks..
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> pengw: the right most value on the 2nd line is your actual free ram (without the buffers)
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> pengw: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/  explains it well
[00:26] <agc93> ActionParsnip: that site is brilliant. *bookmarked*
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> agc93: very ;)
[00:32] <fleakite> Anyone use Cinnamon Desktop Environment on Ubuntu?
[00:32] <fishbait> how big should /tmp and /var be?
[00:32] <dummyan> hello! i need to install ubuntu via net. i followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot and i got the installer working. the problem is that the installer cant get the ip when configuring the network. im stuck, any help is needed
[00:32] <nicolex^2> I have a broadcom wireless card. I have installed proprietary wireless drivers with restricted driver manager. When I use "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan", it returns "Scanning not supported on this device."
[00:33] <toothbrish> where is everyone from?
[00:33] <bazhang> !ot | toothbrish
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> fleakite: cinammon isn't supported here
[00:34] <chris_> whats up
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> nicolex^2: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i firm   do you see messages about missing firmware files?
[00:35] <fleakite> Thanks for letting me know.  My question still stands because I haven't found any assistance on the Linux Mint channel.
[00:35] <nicolex^2> ActionParsnip, it returns "Firmware left e100 interrupts enabled; disabling"
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> nicolex^2: ok thats fine, if you run:   sudo lshw -C network   is teh wireless device wlan0?
[00:36] <bazhang> fleakite, try #ubuntu-offtopic , it's not supported here
[00:37] <agc93> !patience | fleakite
[00:37] <Relondo> actionparsnip: Hey, that fixed my keyboard problems. Thanks so much.
[00:37] <maisondouf> somebody well the use of 'sed' here ?
[00:37] <marvelouzone> hello everyone , looking for a guru who can give me some insight on a strange problem
[00:37] <donvito2> how can i make x11vnc to run everytime ubuntu starts
[00:37] <L3top> fleakite: you will not get an answer here. That is what not supported means. This channel is only for Ubuntu support.
[00:37] <L3top> !ask
[00:37] <agc93> whats your problem marvelouzone?
[00:37] <nicolex^2> ActionParsnip, I'm not sure, I don't see where in the output the alias is. I have none for eth0 either, which is working.
[00:37] <Benny_the_Donkey> #Ron_Paul
[00:38] <marvelouzone> hey agc93
[00:38] <agc93> !ot | Benny_the_Donkey
[00:38] <nicolex^2> ActionParsnip, I'm pretty sure it is wlan0, because iw returns device does not support scanning, rather than device not found.
[00:39] <marvelouzone> I just installed fresh 64bit 12.04 then installed zentyal as a gateway/router my sudo commands were working fine now anytime I type sudo anything it just drops back to a blank terminal prompt after I input password
[00:39] <fleakite> Wow. Thanks for the English lesson L3top
[00:39] <maisondouf> how to change <char><backspace><char> into only <char> with 'sed, please
[00:39] <bazhang> fleakite, actual ubuntu support question?
[00:39] <L3top> It wasn't a lesson in English, it was an explanation of terms, as you did not seem to understand fleakite.
[00:39] <donvito2> !x11vnc
[00:40] <marvelouzone> login passwords arent working either through ssh, samba shares, anything dealing with a password doesnt work
[00:40] <donvito2> !vnc
[00:40] <donvito2> !freenx
[00:40] <bazhang> donvito2, /msg ubottu
[00:40] <donvito2> how can i make x11vnc to run everytime ubuntu starts
[00:40] <nicolex^2> ActionParsnip, My mistake, it returns "interface doesn't support scanning" for any device name, and when specifying no name (use all available devices) it lists no wlan device
[00:40] <genii-around> !autostart
[00:40] <agc93> marvelouzone: That seems odd. You don't get any errors? it just stops after password operations?
[00:41] <genii-around> Bleh old factoid
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> nicolex^2: lshw will tell you the device name for sure :)
[00:41] <L3top> marvelouzone: is it possible the commands you are entering are simply completing? Or are you saying it is dropping your runlevel or something?
[00:41] <marvelouzone> no errors, everything I have searched related to the problem everybody else says they get errors
[00:41] <fleakite> If you have nothing constructive to suggest, please ignore my question L3top . I haven't found any assistance on the Linux Mint channel. And there are way more people here than the offtopic channel. So I'm putting the question out for anyone who might be able to answer. People telling me to ask anywhere else -- noted.
[00:41] <pengw> !vlc
[00:41] <chris91> anyone able to help me with java? i've searched thru a lto of forums and and tried a dozen different things
[00:42] <chris91> can
[00:42] <bazhang> fleakite, its offtopic here. please dont ask about it anymore. thanks. #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[00:42] <chris91> can't seem to get jdk installed
[00:42] <pengw> so what is the problem
[00:42] <marvelouzone> for instance if I do sudo gedit or gksu gedit and then enter password nothing happens gedit never opens..
[00:42] <wylde_> fleakite: you were told earlier as well that cinnamon isn't supported here, as per http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/06/14/%23ubuntu.html#t22:46
[00:42] <fleakite> Thanks for your input bazhang . Please ignore my question (or my handle) if it bothers you so much. Cheers.
[00:42] <L3top> fleakite: You do not understand. I expect a mod will make it clear. It was for your information, the same goes to you, you can feel free to ignore it, but I don't expect you will last long.
[00:43] <bazhang> he's gone
[00:43] <pengw> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-re*-extra then OpenJDK will be installed
[00:43] <marvelouzone> this is the second time I've done a fresh install and ran into this problem
[00:43] <agc93> What changed each time that caused them to stop working?
[00:44] <pengw> !codecs
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: use gksudo with gedit (and other gui apps)
[00:44] <nicolex^2> ActionParsnip, lshw | grep "logical name" shows clearly i have no wlan device
[00:44] <pengw> !code
[00:44] <marvelouzone> I installed zentyal from repos
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: what is the output of:  file `which gedit`
[00:44] <bazhang> pengw, /msg ubottu
[00:44] <nicolex^2> ActionParsnip, what should I do?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> nicolex^2: sudo lshw -C network     look at the names of the interfacs, what is the wireless one?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> nicolex^2: do you dual boot the system?
[00:45] <marvelouzone> I did gksu, I was just using that as an example. if I do sudo nano, it just drops back to prompt, no execution of app
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: is your user in the admin group?
[00:45] <nicolex^2> ActionParsnip,   *-network UNCLAIMED
[00:45] <marvelouzone> i'll check.. gedit is definitely there though , if I simply do gedit it opens
[00:45] <blackshirt> was sudo exploitable ?
[00:45] <Ziber> On ubuntu server, if I have an executable script in a directory which is in my $PATH, can I cron it?
[00:45] <nicolex^2> ActionParsnip, Yes.
[00:46] <blackshirt> Was sudo exploitable?
[00:46] <agc93> Ziber: you should be able to. If you can run it from a terminal or with sh -c then it should work in cron
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> nicolex^2: in Windows, disable the ability for the interface to wake up the OS as well as disable power management
[00:46] <Ziber> agc93: Didn't know if chron ran from a different user or whatever.
[00:46] <Ziber> *cron
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: if you run:  groups | grep admin     do you get an output?
[00:46] <marvelouzone> "/usr/bin/gedit"
[00:46] <marvelouzone> letm e check
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> Ziber: you can cron as different users
[00:47] <Ziber> How might a I run a cron every night at midnight from my user account?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> Ziber: do you have a desktop UI?
[00:47] <Ziber> Nope.
[00:47] <Ziber> Just server.
[00:47] <blackshirt> I was read some shellcode from exploits db and test them locally......and yes, this exploits give me root access... I think sudo was vulnerable for this attack
[00:47] <marvelouzone> yes all users in adm group including the one i'm logged in under
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> Ziber: then run:  crontab -e      and you can add the cron
[00:47] <nicolex^2> ActionParsnip, OK, brb
[00:47] <Relondo> What's the terminal command to delete a file/folder?
[00:48] <Ziber> ActionParsnip: And it'll run as my user?
[00:48] <ratcheer> Relondo: rm
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> Ziber: yes as your user ran the crontab command :)
[00:48] <Relondo> ratcheer: It returned "rm: cannot remove 'minecraft': Is a directory"
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> Ziber: you will add a new line: 0 0 * * * command_here
[00:49] <blackshirt> Relondo, use rm or rmdir
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: rm -r minecraft     be sure you don't need the data within
[00:49] <ratcheer> For a directory, use "rm -rf"
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> ratcheer: why force?
[00:49] <Ziber> m h being minute and hour, both set at 0 for midnight?
[00:49] <marvelouzone> Action would you be willing to take a look if I give you remote access?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Ziber: exactly, the other text in the file you have opened shows the format :)
[00:50] <Ziber> ActionParsnip: Thanks. :D
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: is your user in the admin group?
[00:50] <wylde_> marvelouzone: that is extremely bad practice....just sayin'
[00:50] <Relondo> ratcheer: I thought "rm -rf" was the super scary command that deletes everything :(
[00:50] <marvelouzone> yes Action it is
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: adm != admin
[00:50] <Relondo> actionparsnip: Thanks.
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: if you are not in the admin group, you can't use sudo
[00:50] <ratcheer> Relondo: It depends on the argument you give it. Sorry, don't use it.
[00:51] <marvelouzone> wylde I can change ip's and passwords easily would not put info on open chat
[00:51] <agc93> Relondo: it can be. You must be very careful with rm
[00:51] <meet> how do i edit the icons in top right corner in 12.04?
[00:51] <Relondo> agc93: Ah.
[00:51] <marvelouzone> my user is listed in admin group
[00:51] <Relondo> ratcheer: Oh, does it just delete everyting in the current directory?
[00:51] <Relondo> ratcheer: (Normally).
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: ok what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[00:51] <agc93> relondo: just rm -rf would probably fail
[00:51] <ratcheer> I would usually just give it a specific directory name.
[00:52] <agc93> rm -rf . would force delete everything in the current directory
[00:52] <marvelouzone> even when I do lsblsb_release -sc
[00:52] <marvelouzone> hold on
[00:52] <agc93> for your example, from ~, you could run rm -rf ./.minecraft/. and you should get rid of everything inside the minecraft folder
[00:52] <marvelouzone> precise
[00:52] <agc93> wait shit, rm -rf ./minecraft/* is what you want
[00:53] <Relondo> agc93: Got it. Stay away from from rm -rf for now, then.
[00:53] <agc93> as long as you clearly specify your directory args, its alright.
[00:53] <blackshirt> relondo, just use it carefully
[00:53] <marvelouzone> if I try to do ctrl, alt, f1 I cant even login in with root password which I did set unix passwd, or with my admin username and password
[00:54] <Relondo> blackshirt: Got it.
[00:54] <ratcheer> agc93: Exactly. I've been running UNIX systems for decades, and I know to check before I enter.
[00:54] <blackshirt> Maybe better use absolute path
[00:54] <agc93> ratcheer: I've been caught out one times too many, so I'm pedantic about rm these days
[00:54] <t0ntin> My microphone volume is very low on 12.04. It was perfect on 11.04. I have messed with the volume bars in the control panel, but it's still low. Any ideas?
[00:55] <agc93> t0ntin: have you tried using alsamixer?
[00:55] <bazhang> t0ntin, adjust using alsamixer
[00:55] <ratcheer> agc93: I understand. I am sorry I said it. That is the way I do it, though, and I know to be very careful.
[00:55] <Relondo> When I didn't have Java installed, java -version would show me the standard packages. How do I see those again?
[00:55] <t0ntin> agc93, haven't. I'll try it.
[00:55] <agc93> ratcheer: of course, didnt mean it like that. Just checking! :P
[00:56] <rns> if I want to upgrade from 10.04 will I lose all my data?
[00:56] <t0ntin> "GNOME ALSA Mixer"?
[00:56] <KRomo> is firefox for linux obsolete since adobe ha dropped flash support for linux? i read that chrome only will get new flash verssions
[00:56] <blackshirt> Rns. Shouldn't, but maybe better you have backup it
[00:57] <ratcheer> agc93: No problem. I am truly apologetic that I said it. I wasn't thinking hard enough.
[00:57] <wylde_> rns: you should make backups anyway. That's the ONLY way to be sure.
[00:58] <marvelouzone> anymore ideas anyone
[00:58] <rns> blackshirt, so I can go from 10.04 to 12.04 without losing my data?
[00:58] <agc93> t0ntin: just open a terminal, enter alsamixer and press <ENTER>
[00:58] <gewor> i think you can
[00:58] <bazhang> t0ntin, open  a terminal, type alsamixer, adjust the bars
[00:58] <t0ntin> agc93, bazhang, OK, thanks.
[00:59] <meet> how do i edit the icons in top right corner in 12.04?
[00:59] <fishbait> join #ubuntu-offtpoic
[01:00] <agc93> fishbait: this is a support channel, so some people may not want to go offtopic
[01:00] <blackshirt> Rns, for a lot of packages installed, maybe need a deep knowledge in apt system troubleshooting...maybe upgrades not works like a charm..
[01:01] <KRomo> any way to get additional free storage on ubuntu?
[01:01] <marvelouzone> anybody else who can help me with this problem with root problems
[01:01] <KRomo> ubutu one?
[01:01] <blackshirt> Rns, but i think, we can do release upgrade greatfully
[01:01] <blackshirt> Kromo, what you mean with additional storage?
[01:02] <KRomo> ubuntu one comes with 5gb
[01:02] <bazhang> #ubuntuone KRomo
[01:02] <KRomo> but dropbox gives 50 free
[01:02] <jvmxxz> hello
[01:02] <bazhang> KRomo, ask in their channel
[01:03] <KRomo> ok i will
[01:03] <KornKage2> you guys gave me an idea
[01:03] <agc93> also, dropbox actually only gives 2gb free, 50gb is a paid plan
[01:03] <KornKage2> how about booting ubuntu from internet
[01:03] <gewor> hi, i use lubuntu but i remove lubuntu* and i use openbox for my wm, i was install UCK, but how can i call uck ? when i type in terminal and grun its nothing happen
[01:03] <KornKage2> from storeage directly
[01:03] <KornKage2> hum?
[01:04] <KRomo> i have 50gb free from dropbox on a hack
[01:04] <Relondo> Is there a Linux equivalent of a batch file?
[01:04] <jvmxxz> don't you just refer yourself for the extra storage :P
[01:04] <KRomo> they gave 50gb free for samsung galaxy s3 users so i changed my galaxy nexus to report itself as a n s3
[01:05] <bazhang> !ot | KRomo
[01:06] <L3top> Relondo: what is it you are actually trying to do?
[01:06] <gewor> whats command for call uck in terminal ??
[01:07] <Relondo> L3top: My ultimate goal is to make an executable file that launches a .jar file, because the default behavior for double-clicking a .jar file is to open with archive manager, and I don't know how to change that. Even if I did, I don't know how to make a shortcut to the .jar file.
[01:08] <gewor> u can use file preference for change default file execution
[01:08] <Relondo> L3top: And I'm just curious as to whether or not there's a Linux equivalent for a batch file :)
[01:08] <marvelouzone> what would cause all passwords to stop working?
[01:08] <Relondo> gewor: Where's that?
[01:09] <ratcheer> Relondo: Yes, it is called a shell script.
[01:09] <L3top> Relondo: you can script just about anything in bash.... and execute it like: java -jar whatever.jar
[01:09] <t0ntin> I am trying to adjust the mic. volume on alsamixer. I'm where it says <Mic Jack>. When I use the arrows, it just changes the text from "Line In" to "Mic In"
[01:09] <gewor> in menu u can see that app, but i forget in what category
[01:09] <Relondo> ratcheer: Do I make one of those just like a batch file? By making a text file and changing the extension?
[01:10] <Relondo> gewor: Okay, thanks anyway.
[01:10] <gewor> if you use gnome 2++ u can find in menu
[01:10] <gewor> but in unity i dont know,
[01:10] <Relondo> gewor: I'm on Unity, yeah.
[01:11] <Relondo> L3top: Okay. And I assume "whatever.jar" is replaced with the actual name of the .jar file?
[01:11] <ratcheer> Relondo: Do "man bash" and it will tell you everything. Or just Google "shell scripting" or something.
[01:11] <L3top> yes... I am going to send you a pm.
[01:11] <jjj> ciao questa e la versione italiana di ubunteu chatt?
[01:11] <gewor> ciao :D
[01:11] <genii-around> !it
[01:12] <h>  a
[01:12] <Relondo> ratcheer: Got it.
[01:13] <Guest97843> .
[01:13] <jjj> c'e qualche italiano?
[01:14] <bazhang> jjj #ubuntu-it
[01:14] <zivester> where is the best place to link an executable? my $PATH is: /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[01:15] <ratcheer> zivester: /usr/local/bin should be fine.
[01:15] <wylde_> zivester: depenends what it is. I keep scripts I write in ~/bin and it's already included in $PATH by default.
[01:15] <zivester> thanks ratcheer
[01:16] <zivester> it does? but ~/bin isn't in the $PATH?
[01:16] <wylde_> zivester: try it ;) All I did was make the ~/bin directory and plopped my scripts into it and I can call the from anywhere
[01:17] <t0ntin> bazhang, I can adjust most of those bars, but when I get to <mic jack>, i'm not sure what to do.
[01:17] <wylde_> the=them
[01:17] <bazhang> t0ntin, try the up/down arrows?
[01:17] <marvelouzone> so who on is a ubuntu/linux guru?
[01:17] <bazhang> marvelouzone, just ask the question
[01:17] <ratcheer> marvelouzone: Not I...
[01:18] <bazhang> marvelouzone, if someone knows, they will answer
[01:18] <b0llo> HELLO
[01:18] <wylde_> !caps
[01:18] <t0ntin> bazhang, up and down arrows change text on the screen from "line in" to "mic in" only
[01:18] <b0llo> SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS BUT IM HAVING A PROBLEM WITH UBUNTU
[01:18] <b0llo> I CANT DISABLE CAPSLOCK
[01:18] <FloodBot1> b0llo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:18] <bazhang> b0llo, hold shift
[01:18] <zivester> wylde_: doesn't work for me :-/
[01:18] <DIMEBAGRIP> hello what is this thing i just opened up chat or something like help for ubuntu is that what this thing for a help desk
[01:19] <smw> b0llo, 0llo) has joined #ubuntu
[01:19] <bazhang> DIMEBAGRIP, this is ubuntu support.
[01:19] <smw> * kevinsd has quit (Quit: Ex-Ch
[01:19] <ratcheer> zivester: Put it in /usr/local/bin
[01:19] <wylde_> zivester: hmmm, sorry for the bad info then. I'm sure I didn't add it to $PATH manually.
[01:19] <smw> !ot > DIMEBAGRIP
[01:19] <b0llo> sorry about that
[01:19] <zivester> i did, just was testing wylde_'s claim :)
[01:19] <b0llo> i am holding shift
[01:19] <DIMEBAGRIP> is there something like this for backtrack 5 r2
[01:20] <b0llo> but what could be causing this
[01:20] <bazhang> smw, thats not needed
[01:20] <b0llo> is it a problem with xorg?
[01:20] <smw> b0llo, xmodmap -e "clear Lock"
[01:20] <smw> bazhang, sorry
[01:20] <bazhang> DIMEBAGRIP, yes, #backtrack-linux
[01:20] <smw> b0llo, sorry, meant to paste that before
[01:20] <b0llo> OKAY IT WORKED
[01:20] <b0llo> THANKS
[01:21] <pikkachu> does Ubuntu One keep your files encrypted? with what key?
[01:21] <bazhang> pikkachu, ask in #ubuntuone
[01:21] <DIMEBAGRIP> i just tried out this thing i like backtrack better though what ur opinion blackbuntu better or no ??
[01:22] <fishbait> how big should /tmp and /var partitions be?
[01:22] <marvelouzone> what would cause all passwords in ubuntu to stop working. I.e. login, ssh, sudo commands, etc.
[01:22] <bazhang> DIMEBAGRIP, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat/opinion/etc
[01:22] <agc93> fishbait: why not just have a partition for / and let Linux sort it out
[01:22] <ratcheer> agc93: I agree.
[01:22] <t0ntin> I have another problem. I suddenly have no access to my windows files :(
[01:22] <smw> fishbait, don't separate them unless you are running a server and understand what you are doing
[01:23] <fishbait> b/c i'm going to install vmware and run windows 7 and want to make sure it uses th 500gb drive
[01:23] <agc93> t0ntin: doesnt your windows partition appear as a place in Computer?
[01:23] <smw> fishbait, I don't understand
[01:23] <agc93> fishbait: after all this, have you considered using LVM and a single large volume?
[01:25] <fishbait> i have a 500gb drive and an 80gb i know swap will be split 4.5 x2 (1 per drive) and a 40+gb virtual drive on an 80gb hdd isn't wise
[01:26] <agc93> fishbait: what?
[01:26] <wylde_> fishbait: you only need 1 swap partition
[01:26] <t0ntin> agc93, it used to be to the left of the file manager. Now that you said that about the place in Computer, I went there and it magically appeared! Thanks.
[01:26] <fishbait> hmm 8gb on drive that isn't the os then
[01:26] <agc93> why wouldn't you use LVM and be done with it in a single swoop?
[01:27] <fishbait> mmm call me old fashioned i'd prefer not to contend with lvm
[01:27] <nicolex^2> ActionParsnip, I cannot do it, windows is simply too unstable to get to that point
[01:27] <smw> fishbait, I make a root, /home, and swap parition
[01:28] <smw> fishbait, no reason to separate out the standard ones like var or tmp
[01:28] <fishbait> ok will the tmp folder take up too much space with internet browsing?
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> nicolex^2: wassup, nipped out for a smoke
[01:28] <dejahwho> ok, you have your linux installed on a drive called sda. But sometimes when you boot it shows up as sdb and you don't get to boot at all. any solutions?
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> dejahwho: use UUIDs
[01:29] <fishbait> that was why i was seperating
[01:29] <dejahwho> I tried, but then it crashed everytime even when it was seen as sda
[01:29] <nicolex^2> ActionParsnip, I cannot disable power management or anything within windows for my nonfunctional BCM4311
[01:29] <ratcheer> dejahwho: Use UUID instead of /dev addressing.
[01:29] <nicolex^2> It is functional however, within windows, as a network device.
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> nicolex^2: in device manager, right click the NIC -> properties
[01:29] <dejahwho> I tried UUID, then it crashes anyways
[01:29] <nicolex^2> ActionParsnip, windows locks up before I can do that.
[01:30] <ratcheer> dejahwho: Weird!
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> nicolex^2: is the RAM healthy?
[01:30] <smw> fishbait, a desktop does not need a separate partition for anything
[01:30] <nicolex^2> ActionParsnip, I haven't tested it
[01:30] <dejahwho> then there an error message about how the uuids it sees are zero
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> dejahwho: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[01:30] <nicolex^2> ActionParsnip, I imagine so, since linux is fine, only windows has issues.
[01:30] <smw> fishbait, although I recommend a separate /home to anyone who has the skills to understand what that measn
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> nicolex^2: if windows is locking it may be caused by that, try booting windows to safe mode too, you may be able to do it there
[01:31] <fishbait> unless vmware puts a sizeable virtual hdd under /home
[01:31] <nicolex^2> Okay...
[01:31] <smw> fishbait, what?
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> dejahwho: the default in Ubuntu for a good while now is to use UUIDs
[01:31] <wylde_> fishbait: you're making no sense.
[01:31] <marvelouzone> Action.. willing to take another guess at what my problem could be?
[01:31] <dejahwho> command output is "lsbrelease: command not found"
[01:31] <celthunder> marvelouzone: what was your issue?
[01:31] <kesten> howdy.  Anybody heard of a malware program that takes pictures using your webcam - affected in ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: what is the output of:  ls -l `which sudo`
[01:32] <fishbait> for compatability i'm going to install vmplayer and it stores the virtual hard drive under home
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> celthunder: the issue is taht sudo doesn't launch the app given but the username is in the admin group
[01:32] <dejahwho> when I tell it to use uuids, it says all the uuids it can find are zero
[01:32] <wylde_> marvelouzone: ....only reason I can think of is you got rooted. Since NONE of your administrative passwords work.
[01:32] <fishbait> *correction vmware player
[01:32] <celthunder> ActionParsnip: visudo any errors?
[01:32] <dejahwho> thanks anyways
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> dejahwho: sudo blkid    will tell you the UUIDs, if you label the partitions yuo can use LABEL=  in /etc/fstab too
[01:33] <laserbled> Hi, can someone tell me which file in linux source stored stores the available type of MODULE_LICENSE
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> celthunder: not sure yet, starting with the easy stuff :)
[01:34] <marvelouzone> ls: can not access which sudo: no such file or directory
[01:34] <marvelouzone> if it helps, I cant login with password either
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: did you put the backticks as I used?
[01:35] <marvelouzone> I couldnt copy and paste let me double check
[01:35] <wylde_> ` != '
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: alternatively run:  file /usr/bin/sudo
[01:35] <celthunder> ActionParsnip: better question is sudo installed lol
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> celthunder: the last command will show that too :)
[01:35] <celthunder> yeah
[01:36] <celthunder> well assuming thats where he put it
[01:36] <b0llo> how do i log in as root
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> b0llo: you don't
[01:36] <celthunder> b0llo: sudo -i or sudo su -
[01:36] <wylde_> !noroot | b0llo
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> b0llo: if you want a root console, use:   sudo -i    as celthunder said.
[01:36] <marvelouzone> -rwsr-xr-x 2 root root 69078 May 31 23:53 "/usr/bin/sudo"
[01:38] <fishbait> i want temporary files to be accessed from the non-os drive that way it can read them faster without interference from other reads to the os
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: ok, try:  /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/nano
[01:39] <marvelouzone> I think its more than a sudo issue like I said I cant log into anything, and when I first installed I could i.e ssh from another maching ask for user and pass but just disconnects after I input it, samething with ttyl on the machine. the only reason I can get in because this time around I set autologon with no password
[01:39] <celthunder> ActionParsnip: wouldnt do that.
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: hold shift at boot and select recovery mode, then select root, you can now run:  passwd foo; reboot     change foo for your username
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> celthunder: why not?
[01:40] <marvelouzone> arewe checking for a path issue?
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: indeed :)
[01:40] <celthunder> ActionParsnip: nano hates sudo.  it will make history files and etc as root you then have to clean out later.
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> celthunder: so how can we run nano to edit files we don't have access to as a normal user?
[01:41] <marvelouzone> no go, its ask for password, I input it, and it just goes back to the prompt waiting for new command
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> celthunder: must admit I've had ~/.nano_history owned by root
[01:41] <Relondo> How can I create a Unity icon that points to a script?
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> marvelouzone: try resetting password in root recovery, may help
[01:41] <celthunder> marvelouzone: did it output invalid or anything?
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: make a .desktop file for it in /usr/share/applications   you can copy noe from ~/.config/autostart  as they are simpler
[01:42] <celthunder> ActionParsnip: dont use nano or use a root login shell
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> celthunder: bah, nano is awesome, so simple :)
[01:42] <marvelouzone> no error message at all
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: it will also make it appear in dash
[01:42] <L3top> ActionParsnip: celthunder  try joe
[01:43] <marvelouzone> line I said if I just type nano it opens
[01:43]  * L3top sticks with vi
[01:43] <Relondo> actionparsnip: Even better!
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> L3top: might learn vi, just for kicks
[01:43] <marvelouzone> sudo is there because when I type it it brings up options
[01:44] <celthunder> L3top: i use vim emacs or pico/nano... i dont need more editors
[01:44] <fishbait> *swears by nano*
[01:44] <Relondo> ActionParsnip: I don't have ownership. What's the terminal command to make a new .desktop file?
[01:44] <celthunder> Relondo: touch <filename>
[01:44] <celthunder> Relondo: thats generally the accetped way to make an empty file
[01:45] <L3top> I use vi because I never know what I am going to be using and it is ubiquitous across distros
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: copy one of the files from ~/.config/autostart to $HOME, edit it then use sudo to copy it, or run:  gksudo nautilus   and move it with GUI
[01:45] <fishbait> * swears by nano
[01:45] <fishbait> * swears by nano *
[01:45] <celthunder> L3top: also accross operating systems nothing funnier than watching a moron cry because the bsd they installed only has csh and vi
[01:45] <laserbled> does someone know the possible MODULE_LICENCE arguments....or is there any linux file where you can see available params ?
[01:46] <marvelouzone> what would cause all passwords to stop working? I believe thats where the problem is
[01:47] <celthunder> marvelouzone: /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd and /etc/sudoers
[01:47] <b0llo> nano is a joke editor
[01:47] <b0llo> might as well use MS-DOS edit
[01:47] <celthunder> marvelouzone: check each of the above
[01:47] <b0llo> vi is for powerusers
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> b0llo: I use that in windows, works well
[01:47] <Relondo> Actionparsnip: I have no /.config/autostart folder.
[01:47] <marvelouzone> check to make sure they are there? I checked those the first time I had the problem and they were, i'll check again
[01:47] <fishbait> bah nano is awesome b/c nano is simple
[01:48] <b0llo> :w
[01:48] <b0llo> how hard is that
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: /$HOME/.config/autostart
[01:48] <celthunder> marvelouzone: no look to make sure the contents arent fucked.  id especially look at visudo
[01:48] <Relondo> Actionparsnip: But I had already made the .desktop file, anyway.
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> b0llo: CTRL+O, CTRL+X
[01:48] <b0llo> take your fingers off home row
[01:49] <fishbait> i mainly just edit config files you don't need powerful to do that
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> b0llo: done, as I am typing :)
[01:49] <b0llo> and press awkward keybindings
[01:49] <bazhang> celthunder, no cursing here
[01:49] <b0llo> no thanks
[01:49] <celthunder> b0llo: everyone has a different home row.  im in dvorak for example
[01:49] <b0llo> LOL
[01:49] <marvelouzone> well I have no elevated priveledges so its hard for me to check, I just get permission denied
[01:49] <b0llo> why
[01:49] <celthunder> b0llo: btw im agreeing with you i like vi better than nano any day
[01:49] <Relondo> actionparsnip: I don't have one of those, either.
[01:50] <celthunder> marvelouzone: reboot and go to recovery/init1 or whatever ubuntu wants to call it and check from there.
[01:50] <fishbait> a true master is a master only of the basics
[01:50] <sleepie^eyes> ActionParsnip, This is nicolex^2, there is no Disable Power Management tab in device manager>properties for the wireless device
[01:50] <harrrismrubin> every time i reboot a error message comes up... i took a screenshot how do i paste it
[01:50] <b0llo> well even on dvorak home row is the same
[01:50] <sleepie^eyes> ActionParsnip, There is one for the ethernet device, so I'm in the right place, it's just not there
[01:51] <b0llo> positionwise anyway
[01:51] <fishbait> the editor doesn't matter what matters is that you can use it to edit what you need to
[01:51] <alusion> How is skype 4 on ubuntu ?
[01:51] <b0llo> its in the middle of the keys
[01:51] <b0llo> and ctrl is still off to the side
[01:51] <marvelouzone> I tried that earlier, when I would run commands in there they just would not execute for istance passwd would do nothing
[01:51] <celthunder> b0llo: end convo i use vim already :)
[01:51] <L3top> !pastebin | this has a screenshot link as memory serves harrrismrubin
[01:52] <fishbait> i'm editor agnostic
[01:52] <celthunder> marvelouzone: interesting.
[01:52] <sleepie^eyes> ActionParsnip, Please help if you're not out smoking :)
[01:52] <celthunder> marvelouzone: so the problem isnt sudo its literally you cant run anything as root
[01:52] <marvelouzone> thats what I was trying to say
[01:53] <wylde_> *cough*rooted*cough*
[01:53] <celthunder> marvelouzone: yeah...you got problems id definitly login from a live system run a rootkit finder and change your /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files
[01:53] <L3top> marvelouzone: what is the output of: groups
[01:53] <marvelouzone> this is the second time I had this problem, the first time I got totally locked out, I could enter through recovery and my root password worked, but couldnt do anything
[01:54] <marvelouzone> I can only get in this time because I set autologin with no passwd
[01:54] <fishbait> *looks at marvelouzones problem and holds up hand*
[01:55] <fishbait> what security programs are available for linux?
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> sleepie^eyes: thats all I can advise, are there any bugs reported?
[01:55] <sleepie^eyes> ActionParsnip, Found it, disabled power management for all pci express
[01:55] <celthunder> fishbait: selinux iptables chmod chown netstat
[01:55] <marvelouzone> the output of "groups" list (my user name) adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[01:55] <celthunder> probably a few hundred more i didnt list
[01:55] <sleepie^eyes> ActionParsnip, I'll head over to Google
[01:55] <compdoc> fishbait, i use rkhunter
[01:56] <L3top> fishbait: linux.
[01:56] <fishbait> hmm i shall have to look at those and do this amazing thing called learning
[01:56] <fishbait> NEVER RELY ON SECURITY THROUGH OBSCURITY!
[01:56] <Relondo> L3top: What was the command to make executable, again?
[01:56] <marvelouzone> so fishbait what do you think?
[01:56] <celthunder> Relondo: chmod +x
[01:57] <L3top> fishbait: each of the things mentioned have specific purposes, but you are from the windows school of thought where you need security on top of the os, rather than using a secure os.
[01:57] <fishbait> was the previous rootkit fully cleared up
[01:57] <Relondo> cellthunder: Thanks.
[01:58] <fishbait> other then that i'm all out of ideas
[01:58] <marvelouzone> root kit?
[01:58] <celthunder> fishbait: dont follow it word for word as some of it is outright wrong and wont work but there is an nsa paper on redhat security.
[01:58] <harrrismrubin> this is what comes up when i reboot http://imagebin.org/216462
[01:58] <alan502> Hello. I have just installed dhcp3-server but there is apparently no /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server?
[01:58] <fishbait> hmm i just don't want to get a nasty root-kit and completely screw up my install
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> alan502: try:  sudo service dh    and hit TAB
[01:59] <celthunder> fishbait: give you a good startingy point on logging and filesystem security.  learning basic ccna stuff will practically teach you iptables as well
[01:59] <fishbait> hmm well i'm currently a+ and network+ certified
[01:59] <MichaelGl> don't install untrusted software
[02:00] <L3top> harrrismrubin: is your username literally username?
[02:00] <alan502> ActionParsnip: I can see nothing :(
[02:00] <fishbait> oh yes thats a given on any operating system
[02:00] <MichaelGl> then you're good
[02:00] <celthunder> Filibustero: a+ is like saying you can change a tire on a car and call yourself a mechanic (honestly ccna is the same)
[02:00] <celthunder> er
[02:00] <harrrismrubin> yes
[02:00] <celthunder> fishbait:
[02:00] <fishbait> celthunder: yes?
[02:00] <harrrismrubin> wait no
[02:00] <celthunder> above comment was for you :)
[02:00] <marvelouzone> celthunder any ideas on what I can do to fix?
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> alan502: or hit tab a few times after the word service, should show all service names
[02:00] <L3top> harrrismrubin: touch /home/username/.shotwell/data/photo.db
[02:00] <L3top> reboot
[02:01] <celthunder> marvelouzone: do you have a usb stick or something you can live boot from
[02:01] <fishbait> ooh i see
[02:01] <celthunder> marvelouzone: id live boot and then try to find the problem outside the system
[02:01] <alan502> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/CxEWLTih
[02:01] <Armageddon> L3top, reboot ?
[02:01] <L3top> sorry that was meant to be at the end of my post to harrrismrubin
[02:01] <Armageddon> it's still wrong
[02:02] <Armageddon> you mean log and back in
[02:02] <alan502> Is the dhcp3-server enough to install dhcp?
[02:02] <fishbait> does video streaming write to the tmp or var folders?
[02:02] <celthunder> marvelouzone: i suspect you will have an easier time fixing from a chroot
[02:02] <alan502> Is the dhcp3-server *package enough to install dhcp?
[02:02] <celthunder> fishbait: depends what youre using to stream
[02:02] <L3top> wrong is an interesting word.
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> alan502: not sure then dude, is it used that way?
[02:02] <fishbait> flsh video players to be specific
[02:02] <marvelouzone> could you give me a little more specifics on what I should chroot?
[02:03] <alan502> ActionParsnip: I think so. I have been reading a couple of tutorials on the web and appanrently installing that package should be enough :P
[02:03] <celthunder> marvelouzone: your install? so you can find the problem.  look at it especially /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and if you find the problem fix it then chroot and see if it worked
[02:03] <fishbait> celthunder: flash video players to be specific
[02:04] <loneclock> hi, i was wondering why i have to use sudo to install everything?
[02:04] <alan502> ActionParsnip: it's weird, apparently the config files should also appear but I had to create them
[02:04] <alan502> *googles again*
[02:04] <harrrismrubin> nothing happens when i touch it
[02:04] <celthunder> fishbait: dont use flash cant help you but i doubt it probably $HOME/.browser/tmp or something
[02:04] <celthunder> and flash shouldnt have much of a que /tmp usage
[02:04] <celthunder> if any
[02:04] <fishbait> celthunder: hmm ok
[02:05] <L3top> loneclock: you do not have to use sudo to install EVERYTHING, however many many things require root access in order to affect other parts of the system during the install.
[02:05] <marvelouzone> ok, I'll make an attempt, just not sure what I'm doing lol.. I wonder what zentyal is changing in my system thats causing this problem, when I look on there website no one else has that issue..
[02:05] <harrrismrubin> L3top,  nothing happens when i clicked it
[02:05] <L3top> loneclock: this is part of the security of linux. Things cannot install without your permission.
[02:05] <celthunder> loneclock: if you have access to compilers you dont need sudo for anything just build a system inside your home dir
[02:05] <L3top> L3top: clicked what?
[02:06] <L3top> harrrismrubin: clicked what
[02:06] <harrrismrubin> /home/username/.shotwell/data/photo.db
[02:06] <loneclock> L3top, i would like to install wine but i need to use sudo for it....what if i was on a system where i didnt have acess to sudo?
[02:06] <celthunder> marvelouzone: wats zentyal
[02:06] <celthunder> loneclock: build it in your home dir. as i just said
[02:07] <L3top> sorry... I said to touch, touch is a builtin command. You would type this in a terminal.
[02:07] <L3top> harrrismrubin: but you are saying it exists?
[02:07] <alan502> *reinstalling dhcp3-server*
[02:07] <loneclock> celthunder, i am pretty new....if i use sudo am i just building inside my root directory ?
[02:07] <harrrismrubin> L3top,  bash: /home/username/.shotwell/data/photo.db: No such file or directory
[02:08] <marvelouzone> its software that you use as a server/gateway/router/firewall I have two broadband connections that I load balance, I also have a zentyal on ubuntu servers at two other locations with vpn
[02:08] <fishbait> revised partition scheme / on 80gb drive 9gb /swap and /home on 500gb i believe this will give plenty of space for applications variable usage and a slight performance advantage. am i on the right track here?
[02:08] <celthunder> loneclock: no.  and you shouldnt build as root anyway.  sudo lets you install software using package managers and system wide.
[02:09] <celthunder> loneclock: you can however dl dep files and rpms if you want and use them from your home dir and or build them (much better) with prefix of your home dir
[02:09] <fishbait> true you don't need sudo to install things but apt-get needs sudo to look at a few files. right?
[02:09] <L3top> I don't use unity. Is this http://imagebin.org/216462  crash title using "username" as a generic obscura of the persons username, or is it literally pointing to /home/username ?
[02:09] <celthunder> fishbait: you dont have to use apt-get to install stuff.  you dont need to use package managers for anything really if you dont want.
[02:09] <celthunder> it just makes it a tad easier.
[02:10] <loneclock> celthunder, so when i am using sudo i am just installing wine for all users? but if i installed inside my home directory i am only installing for one user to use
[02:10] <celthunder> loneclock: something like that
[02:11] <fishbait> hmm but then what is the alteRnative command? i only know apt-get (install/autoremove) *pacakge name here*
[02:11] <alan502> !isc-dhcp-server
[02:12] <fishbait> i know make install to but i think thats drivers only
[02:13] <celthunder> fishbait: wherever you learned that...smack them
[02:13] <fishbait> i guessed it from only having used it to install my nic drivers
[02:13] <celthunder> :/
[02:14] <celthunder> you can use it to build pretty much anything.
[02:14] <celthunder> kernel your userland...
[02:14] <celthunder> look at lfs.
[02:14] <pedahzur> Where do we go to ask questions about the Canonical Partners repository?
[02:14] <fishbait> ah i see so it for installing from source right?
[02:15] <celthunder> yeah
[02:15] <EDawg878> I have two ethernet ports on my computer, how can i share the connection from one out the other?
[02:16] <genii-around> !ics
[02:16] <celthunder> fishbait: you can often just extract deb files and rpms as well to your home dir
[02:16] <L3top> holy poop... 3 days?
[02:16] <celthunder> fishbait: not EVERYTHING will work like that...but enough and anything that doesnt you should probably have sysops permission for anyway
[02:17] <celthunder> L3top: lol yeah long time cant wait for the chaos
[02:17] <fishbait> ooh i see
[02:17] <celthunder> fishbait: for example you can install ifconfig and iptables in your home dir all you want it wont do you any good
[02:18] <fishbait> ah then vmware will need sysops permission but my browser should probably work fine like that
[02:19] <celthunder> fishbait: exactly
[02:19] <fishbait> i see the distinction now between what is and what isn't extract runable
[02:20] <fishbait> but what do i do to make a link from which to access it?
[02:20] <celthunder> ?
[02:20] <celthunder> ln -s ?
[02:20] <fishbait> from the menu or launcher
[02:20] <celthunder> or ln -h if you want to link that exact harddrive location
[02:21] <celthunder> what menu/launcher?
[02:21] <fishbait> hmm xfce
[02:21] <celthunder> no idea :) dont use it
[02:24] <fishbait> evised partition scheme / on 80gb drive 9gb /swap and /home on 500gb i believe this will give plenty of space and a slight performance advantage. am i on the right track here?
[02:25] <fishbait> revised*
[02:26] <celthunder> fishbait: ?
[02:26] <celthunder> depends
[02:27] <celthunder> but i would never put 9gb on swap and your fs type and stuff matters too.  look at making an lvm or using zfs
[02:27] <fishbait> i have 8gb of ram and it seems most things that aren't system related go under home i ntend to use vmware for compatability layer
[02:28] <celthunder> so you can resize as needed.  personally i have 30MB /boot 16MB swap rest is btrfs under an lvm. / is 5GB /home is whatever freespace i happen to have left
[02:28] <celthunder> if you are using vmware and running them nearly all your real ram yeah keep the swap if not...you dotn really need it for anything other than suspend
[02:29] <celthunder> ultimately up to you
[02:29] <celthunder> just find what you need where and put it there
[02:29] <fishbait> mmhmm i intend to give vmware 1 core and 4gb with a 50gb drive
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> fishbait: sounds good to me :)
[02:30] <pandu> hey ActionParsnip can you help me again ?
[02:30] <harrrismrubin> idk
[02:31] <harrrismrubin> i want this error gone
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> pandu: sup?
[02:31] <fishbait> okay i think this is entirely planned out to me nothin to do now but wait
[02:32] <celthunder> harrrismrubin: whats the error sorry
[02:32] <fishbait> gotta finish setting up my little brothers new laptop
[02:32] <celthunder> pandu: hi agin
[02:32] <fishbait> bye
[02:32] <pandu> what's the website for download icon or theme for my ubuntu ?
[02:32] <celthunder> fishbait: later
[02:32] <fishbait>  /leave re-installing
[02:32] <harrrismrubin> here is a screen shot celthunder  http://imagebin.org/216462
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> pandu: www.gnome-look.org is a good starting point
[02:32] <MadBoat> Hey guys. Im trying to compile an ubuntu kernel for the first time, and I'm running into a problem with a video driver for the platform im compiling for
[02:32] <nickmoeck> Hi.... quick question for a friend who's using 12.04.  Is the mouse pointer supposed to disappear when you move it over an icon or something like that? I'd check myself but I really don't want to install unity/ubuntu-desktop on my system.
[02:33] <MadBoat> I'd like to know how to go about stopping the make process from trying to compile this driver
[02:33] <pandu> ActionParsnip Thanks a lot :D
[02:33] <celthunder> harrrismrubin: is your username literally username on your system?
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: does the filename in the error exist?
[02:34] <celthunder> harrrismrubin: mkdir -p /home/username/.shotwell/data/
[02:34] <celthunder> harrrismrubin: touch /home/username/.shotwell/data/photo.db
[02:34] <snadge> my launcher has stopped autohiding for some reason.. only thing i've done is install skype 4.0, which should be unrelated?
[02:34] <snadge> also skype 4 doesnt show skype icon in the notification area anymore :/ anyone else noticed that?
[02:34] <celthunder> harrrismrubin: and then if your username isnt literally username chown -R YOURREALUSER /home/username
[02:35] <snadge> i could try deleting my skype settings.. rebooting etc.. but maybe someone has already tried all of this and can save me the trouble
[02:35] <harrrismrubin> no it does not exist
[02:36] <alan502> Hello. I am trying to share my wireless internet connection through a wired router; can somebody help me?
[02:36] <harrrismrubin> how do i uninstall it
[02:37] <genii-around> celthunder: Maybe more like mkdir /home/$(whoami)/whatever
[02:37] <L3top> mkdir -p
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> snadge: I suggest you report a bug with skype
[02:37] <celthunder> genii-around: his error literally said /home/username so...thats what i gave him since i suspect the parents dont exist i put in -p
[02:38] <pedahzur> Where do we go to ask questions about the Canonical Partners repository?
[02:38] <bluechaos> good morning
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> pedahzur: here
[02:38] <pandu> ActionParsnip what will happend if I always change my ubuntu appearance ?
[02:38] <celthunder> pedahzur: why not just ask
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> pandu: nothing much
[02:38] <celthunder> bluechaos: evening
[02:38] <bluechaos> celthunder,
[02:38] <celthunder> pandu: it will 'appear' different
[02:39] <pedahzur> bluechaos, celthunder: I thought this was Ubuntu-only discussion.
[02:39] <MadBoat> alan502: First, be more specific about what you're trying to do. You want to, what, split a wireless connection between multiple computers using a wired router, some LAn cable and 1 wireless adapter? 2: I don't know how to do that :p
[02:39] <bluechaos> tell me one software to burn a bootable cd/dvd
[02:39] <pedahzur> Anyway: Skype 4.0 was released today. Any ideas when it will show up in partners repo?
[02:39] <celthunder> bluechaos: cdrkit
[02:39] <genii-around> bluechaos: Brasero
[02:39] <MadBoat> Anyone knowledgeable about building the ubuntu kernel in here?
[02:39] <bluechaos> genii-around,  I try brasero but is not good
[02:40] <pandu> ActionParsnip My ubuntu could get broken ?
[02:40] <celthunder> MadBoat: ive done it..knowedgable..probably not
[02:40] <bluechaos> I faild to do that cd ..
[02:41] <MadBoat> celtthunder: I wanted to disable a particular graphics module from the build
[02:41] <celthunder> MadBoat: usually the graphics is added as modules you just have to blacklist it
[02:41] <L3top> harrrismrubin: try this instead... sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-scope-shotwell         or if you really want to get rid of it, sudo apt-get remove unity-scope-shotwell           but it may remove something you want.
[02:41] <alan502> MadBoat: I connect to the internet through a wireless connection on this computer. The wireless connection uses an http proxy to connect to the web. This computer is also connected to a router via wired network. I want the wireless internet connection on this computer to be shared via my router. Can you help me? I'll really appreciate it
[02:41] <L3top> harrrismrubin: it would show you what it was taking with it though and ask permission
[02:41] <ehsan_> ss
[02:42] <celthunder> MadBoat: that said if it is compiled in you can recompile..
[02:42] <celthunder> alan502: does your wireless card have a master mode
[02:42] <alan502> what is master mode?
[02:42] <celthunder> alan502: if you cant put your wireless card into the proper modes it will never work
[02:42] <MadBoat> celtthunder: I haven't successfully compiled it yet
[02:43] <harrrismrubin> L3top, ` does that get rid of all of the packages it installed
[02:43] <alan502> celthunder: what is master mode?
[02:43] <MadBoat> celtthunder:I've only got pre-compiled images to work
[02:43] <L3top> It would remove anything which depended on it harrrismrubin
[02:43] <L3top> harrrismrubin: again, it will tell you what it is doing, and ask you yes or no. It is safe to run it to see.
[02:43] <celthunder> alan502: basically it lets you use your wireless card as you want to.
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> pandu: its an icon, nothing more...
[02:44] <L3top> harrrismrubin: if you are really paranoid you can throw a --dry-run in there
[02:44] <pandu> ActionParsnip alright :D thanks
[02:44] <snadge> pedahzur: you can install skype 4 manually from their website using software centre.. but it appears the icon for it no longer shows up in the notification area
[02:44] <celthunder> L3top: why is he removing it?
[02:44] <rbik> ?join #python
[02:44] <L3top> celthunder: I gave him options, one of which was what he asked... which is how to remove it.
[02:44] <snadge> i wouldn't suggest adding it to the partner repo.. until at least that is resolved.. also my launcher no longer autohides.. and im not sure if thats related to installing skype 4, or a coincidence
[02:45] <celthunder> L3top: ah odd solution
[02:45]  * L3top suggested he apt-get install --reinstall it
[02:45] <snadge> and yes.. i've tried toggling the autohide option.. it doesnt appear to achieve anything
[02:45] <L3top> I mean if it is literally pointing to /home/username... something got borked in an install script or something.
[02:45] <pedahzur> snadge: Hmm..never used software center (I'm on 11.04, Kubuntu).  Was hoping it'd show up as an update in the partners's repo.
[02:45] <pedahzur> snadge: Thanks.
[02:46] <celthunder> L3top: yeah lol why i told him to mkdir -p it...
[02:46] <alan502> celthunder: apparently it does support master mode.  sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode master   returns no error
[02:46] <L3top> me too
[02:46] <snadge> pedahzur: you just right click on the file and say install. and it defaults to installing it that way
[02:46] <celthunder> alan502: then just set up iptables and bridging as needed
[02:47] <pedahzur> snadge: There is that. Skype say the version on their web site is for 10.04...I guess they mean 10.04 or later.
[02:47] <gr33n7007h> I've just downloaded an ubuntu game and it's a .run file how do i execute it??
[02:47] <snadge> right.. they also say they have a 64bit version.. which is lies
[02:47] <alan502> celthunder: I don't know how to do that tho; this is why I come for help.
[02:47] <snadge> when you install the 64bit version, it depends on like 90mb worth of 32bit libs
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> gr33n7007h:   ./foo.run  or  sh ./foo.run   or, chmod +x foo..run   then ./foo.run
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> gr33n7007h: mark it as executable and run it in terminal (may need sudo)
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> gr33n7007h:  ie: you 'run'  it.
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> gr33n7007h: its a binary file
[02:48] <gr33n7007h> ActionParsnip, Dr_Willis Thanks guys
[02:48] <Kryvysh> I need help!, I accidentally removed my password for my account, which happens to be the administrator of this computer. (the only account to be honest). I just installed ubuntu yesterday and today I no longer have administrative privilages because of my actions. I try to add a password but it won't let me. It says "None" for password but when I click it, it gives me 3 options. Current Password, New Password and Confirm passwor
[02:48] <Kryvysh> d, but no matter what I do or try, I can't get it to be able for me to click "change" ... The button is unclickable.. I can't get a password, I don't know what to do. 	
[02:48] <Kryvysh> No longer with admin priv in my comp. If anyone could help me, I'd appreciate it very very much (and sorry for such a long response)
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> use of .run type installers is  sort of frowned upon. ;)
[02:48] <alan502> celthunder: can you help me?
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> Kryvysh: boot to root recovery console and you can set your password there
[02:49] <Kryvysh> i tried that
[02:49] <Kryvysh> it didnt work
[02:49] <Kryvysh> for some odd reson
[02:49] <celthunder> alan502: apt-get install bride-utils set your wireless card in master made
[02:50] <sam555> hello all
[02:50] <sam555> when I type this sudo ufw allow Samba
[02:50] <L3top> Kryvysh: how did you accidentally remove your password?
[02:50] <celthunder> alan502:  http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-wap/index.html there
[02:51] <sam555> i get this error:ERROR: Could not find a profile matching 'Samba'
[02:51] <sam555> any ideas?
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> sam555:  perhaps its 'samba'not Samba
[02:51] <L3top> sam555:  samba
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> !firewall
[02:51] <harrrismrubin> what is a dry run
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> CaSe MaTtErS
[02:51] <Kryvysh> L3top: not thinking, I delete it >.> and then i couldn't re add a pw because of my actions...
[02:51] <L3top> It is a simulation of what would happen if you were really doing it harrrismrubin
[02:52] <L3top> how did you delete it Kryvysh
[02:52] <sam555> Dr_Willis: & L3top same error with lower case
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> sam555:  could  ibe  'samba' is not the right  name. try the tab completion to show possible names?
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> i dont use any firewall rules. ;)
[02:53] <Kryvysh> i went to users, and i clicked mine (the only one) and was curious what login without password or some option like that was, and it removed my pw, then i clicked the lock unlock thing, and I no longer was able to unlock so I could change it back or what not.
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> dont see much need for them on my home lan
[02:54]  * octaviordz hi
[02:54] <L3top> went to users in what Kryvysh? I am not understanding how you could do this.
[02:54] <celthunder> Dr_Willis: firewall rules can do more than just stop traffic they can also redirect it etc
[02:54] <Alan502_> celthunder: sorry i disconnected
[02:55] <celthunder> alan502:  http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-wap/index.html there basic directions
[02:56] <Kryvysh> L3top: top right cornor i clicked my account. then under account i clicked my account. then from there i saw password and i fidgetted with it, to the point where I was left w/out a password and no password i guess means, no password to use to authenticate administrative privilages.. i think/hope that made sense...
[02:56] <L3top> what version are you on?
[02:57] <Alan502> celthunder: again, did you send anything?
[02:57]  * Dr_Willis wonders if the account has a password - but is set to be disabled.
[02:57] <L3top> Kryvysh: lsb_release -sc
[02:57] <celthunder> alan502:  http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-wap/index.html there basic directions
[02:58]  * L3top is just not familiar enough with unity to address this, but it doesn't seem as though anything you "click" from desktop should be able to screw this sort of basic necessity up
[02:58] <celthunder> Kryvysh: so set a new one?
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> i recall a 'disable account' button in the user configs. seems odd he could disable  all the accounts. :) but ive seen weirder  thingfs happen.
[02:59] <L3top> Kryvysh: well... regardless. I believe the solution is going to be to live boot to cd, chroot into the machine and set a password.
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> make a new admin user also may be a good idea while chrooted.. just in case
[02:59] <L3top> Or create
[02:59] <L3top> yeah
[03:00] <Kryvysh> alright, thanks you guys, Imma try it right now!,
[03:08] <Alan502> celthunder: I think you misunderstood me. I connect to the internet through the wireless connection but I want to share it through a wired connection
[03:08] <Alan502> celthunder: I have read the tutorial but apparently it teaches you how to do it the other way
[03:10] <celthunder> Alan502: oh same stuff applies
[03:10] <sacarlson> Alan502: as far as I know there should be no difference in shareing wifi or shareing wired just the interfaces are reversed eth0 = eth1 ; eth1 = eth0; or whatever your interfaces are named
[03:11] <celthunder> Alan502: just pretend its a kvm or xen vm in bridged mode.
[03:11] <Alan502> celthunder, sacarlson : but my wired connection is connected to a wireless router. I attempt to share my wireless connection through my router.
[03:11] <celthunder> Alan502: except in this case its real hardware.
[03:12] <L3top> sorry missed the pm Kryvysh... these things are best left in main chan. If I make an error, someone would catch it this way.
[03:12] <Alan502> hmmm
[03:12] <sacarlson> Alan502: just make sure you don't have conflicting dhcp servers running then, that's it
[03:14] <Alan502> sacarlson: can I leave the dhcp server of my router and disable any other dhcp servers, would that work?
[03:15] <Alan502> sacarlson: and also, should my computer be connected to a "regular" port or to the "wan" port
[03:15] <Zephyrusuo> regular port
[03:15] <Zephyrusuo> wan means wide area network which is where the router connects to modem
[03:16] <Zephyrusuo> wan is the internet for example
[03:16] <sacarlson> Alan502: as long as the remaining dhcp server can provide the correct values for ip , mask, gateway, I would think you can run it anywhere, but I run mine on my ubuntu
[03:16] <sacarlson> Alan502: oh and dns ip
[03:16] <L3top> Kryvysh: Boot to live cd. Open a terminal and type sudo -s. mount /dev/sdXY /mnt      where X is the disk and Y is the partition. Typically /dev/sda1.  then chroot /mnt. To create a user: useradd -G admin mynewusername       using an actual user name.
[03:17] <Alan502> sacarlson: correct values?
[03:17] <L3top> Kryvysh: if we were doing more than this we would want to mount more things... but for this we shouldnt need to
[03:17] <sacarlson> Alan502: I just disable the dhcp server in my adsl+wifi router
[03:17] <blackshirt> I have usb modem and try to connect with wvdial..
[03:18] <Alan502> sacarlson: what dhcp server do you use in ubuntu? dhcp3-server or isc-dhcp?
[03:18] <sacarlson> Alan502: well yes the values given from dhcpd must provide the values that will hook up to your present network
[03:18] <L3top> Kryvysh: then, because I like things clean, umount /dev/sda1 (or whatever your partition is) and reboot to the hd.
[03:19] <sacarlson> Alan502: I run both of those dhcp3-server and isc-dhcp  as I run 2 different versions of systems on my network,  one will pick up the service if one dies
[03:19] <L3top> Kryvysh: you would have to type exit before the umount... sorry... to leave the chroot jail
[03:19] <blackshirt> But why, init3 = at+cgdcont=1,"apn","ip" was daid bad init string
[03:19] <sacarlson> Alan502: and both isc-dhcp and dhcp3-server both work fine
[03:19] <blackshirt> said
[03:19] <randi> anyone good at troubleshooting wifi problems?
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> randi: state your issue and the channel will reply if it can
[03:20] <Alan502> sacarlson: i installed dhcp3-server but no configuration files where created on ubuntu and the daemon was not present on /etc/init.d
[03:21] <blackshirt> But why, init3 = at+cgdcont=1,"apn","ip" was said bad init string
[03:21] <Alan502> sacarlson: I am trying to get isc-dhcp-server to work right now but with no success; can the router serve as a dhcp server instead do you think?
[03:21] <intrapata> hi how can i disable autologin on Lubuntu
[03:21] <sacarlson> Alan502: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[03:21] <Alan502> 12.04
[03:21] <intrapata> hello hi how can i disable autologin on Lubuntu
[03:21] <intrapata> thanks
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> intrapata: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[03:22] <sacarlson> Alan502: the router might be able to run the dhcp it depends on the firmware installed in it and how flexible the config of the device is
[03:22] <celthunder> Alan502: you really onl need iptables forward and/or ip routes no dhcp server needed
[03:22] <randi> I installed Ubuntu 10.10 and the wifi worked fine.. after updating there is no wifi option
[03:22] <celthunder> Alan502: then just set the ips statically
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> randi: what version did you update to?
[03:23] <Alan502> celthunder: I am trying to set this for my whole family with several devices which would not be ideal to set each one of them statically
[03:23] <sacarlson> Alan502: in the past seems the dhcp3-server was very easy to install it was plug and play as far as I know,  can I see your config file?
[03:23] <randi> ActionParsnip :  11.11
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> randi: did you upgrade to 11.04 first?
[03:24] <randi> ActionParsnip: sorry that's what I meant 11.04
 sir its says precies
[03:24] <intrapata> precise
[03:24] <sacarlson> Alan502: on my system the config is at /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf  but yours might be  at /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
[03:24] <L3top> What is your ultimate goal for the system Alan502?
[03:25] <Alan502> sacarlson: the thing is, there was no config file created after install. I added this under /etc/dhcp3 though: http://pastebin.com/TcpL8Z18
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> intrapata: edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf   and you can comment out the line: autologin-user=foo
[03:25] <blackshirt> I have add init3= at+cgdcont=1,"apn","ip" to wvdial.conf, but why was said bad init string
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> randi: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network     does it show the network adapter? Is it disabled?
[03:26] <sacarlson> Alan502: sorry my ISP filters http://pastebin.com can you try http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[03:26] <Alan502> L3top: I have a system which is connected to the internet via wireless (it connects to a network which has a proxy which I use to go to the internet) however, I would like to share this connection via wireless router to other systems in the house (this system is wired to the router) do you think its possible?
 do i need to su ?
[03:27] <Alan502> sacarlson: sure :)
[03:27] <Alan502> sacarlson:
[03:27] <Alan502> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1041812/
[03:27] <randi> ActionParsnip: yeah it shows the AR5008 Wireless adapter
[03:28] <sacarlson> Alan502: I see no gateway address in you config
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> randi: ok and is it disabled? does it have a driver loaded for it? What is the interface name? Does it have an IP address?
[03:28] <randi> it does say "*-network UNCLAIMED" just above it though
[03:28] <L3top> Yes. Definitely possible.
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> randi: ahhh then no driver is oaded
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> *loaded
[03:29] <Alan502> sacarlson: is my own computers ip the gateway?
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> randi: if you hold shift at boot and select the old kernel, you can see what driver module it uses
[03:29] <intrapata> Sir <ActionParsnip> i run  edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf  ,, and get this error "no write permission for file "/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"
[03:29] <sacarlson> Alan502: oh you have option routers 192.168.1.254;  outside your subnet,  I guess that might work
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> intrapata: gksudo leafpad /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[03:30] <Alan502> aaaaaaaaaaaaaa why is networking so haaaard
[03:30] <sacarlson> Alan502: that looks like it might work,  so if you restart do you get any errors?
[03:31] <arussel> I have a tomcat that will send mail using javamail, do I have to configure anything for this to work ? (ie either tell tomcat to use a different port)
[03:31] <Alan502> sacarlson: I got an ntp error before but I installed the ntp package on synaptic and it does not give me any more erorrs
 sir  which of this should i edit  " [SeatDefaults]
[03:31] <intrapata> autologin-guest=false
[03:31] <intrapata> autologin-user=intrapata
[03:31] <intrapata> autologin-user-timeout=0
[03:31] <intrapata> autologin-session=lightdm-autologin
[03:31] <FloodBot1> intrapata: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:31] <intrapata> greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter
[03:31] <Alan502> sacarlson: i'll paste you the output when i restart the daemon
[03:31] <sacarlson> Alan502: ok and your devices that connect do they get an ip address?
[03:32] <sacarlson> Alan502: oh and we should see that dhcp is listening on the ethernet port you desire
[03:33] <Alan502> sacarlson: no they dont get an ip adress
[03:34] <sacarlson> Alan502: so they can connect to your access point as that's how they are supposed to connect yes?
[03:35] <pandu> jaiihooo Alanparsnip
[03:35] <Alan502> sacarlson: if I enable the dhcp on my router all my devices can connect without problem but If i disable it so that ubuntu will serve as a dhcp server they won't connect
[03:35] <Alan502> can connect to the network
[03:35] <MeXTuX> I want to enlarge my Ubuntu partition. Maybe resize it 20 GB. Windows 7 is also installed on same PC. I need advice on how to do this safely. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1041823/
[03:36] <sacarlson> Alan502: and for now I hope you have encryption turned off just for tesing to remove that as a posibility
[03:36] <Alan502> sacarlson: ok, removing it now...
[03:38] <celthunder> MeXTuX: lvm/zfs?
[03:38] <L3top> Alan502: to be clear... there is nothing ELSE spitting DHCP on the internal network right?
[03:38] <L3top> because that will break the dhcpd
[03:39] <celthunder> Alan502: did you make sure your dhcp realizes its not the real router?
[03:39] <MeXTuX> celthunder: what? i'm newbie
[03:39] <randi> after booting into older kernel the wifi is still not working ? or am I doing it wrong?
[03:39] <celthunder> MeXTuX: lvdisplay if you are in an lvm just resize it
[03:41] <modernbob> whats the latest kernel for 12.04?
[03:41] <genii-around> !info linux-image
[03:42] <modernbob> modern@crawfordneb:~$ uname -r
[03:42] <modernbob> 3.2.0-24-generic
[03:42] <modernbob> don't see the ,26 part
[03:42] <OerHeks> try uname -a
[03:43] <modernbob> OerHeks: Linux crawfordneb 3.2.0-24-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 21 16:52:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:43] <OerHeks> Linux oerpc 3.2.0-25-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 23 20:30:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:44] <modernbob> so I don't have the latest version
[03:45] <celthunder> modernbob: i think its 3.5
[03:45] <celthunder> as latest
[03:46] <modernbob> celthunder: but thats not a supported kernel right?
[03:46] <OerHeks> well 3.5-rc2
[03:46] <modernbob> ok...
[03:46] <modernbob> thanks
[03:46] <celthunder> modernbob: unless you totally screw up making it or you go back ridiculously far it shouldnt really be unsupported
[03:47] <celthunder> aka building 2.4.x would expect problems
[03:47] <OerHeks> I wouldn't load any other kernel unless i had a very good reason, and would try QQ 12.10 daily first.
[03:48] <modernbob> OerHeks: I agree.. everything appears to work fine
[03:49] <celthunder> OerHeks: theres some things you just have to build one for...
[03:50] <sacarlson> L3top: I think Alan502:  needs to add a line in his /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf   INTERFACES="ethX"  so that he won't be serving himself a number on his ISP side.  what you think?
[03:50] <Borillion> uh one of my drives is showing 2199GB and no partition available, am I toast?
[03:50] <OerHeks> here is a view about mirrors and status of updates > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[03:51] <sacarlson> L3top: I've never had to do this since I run static on my server side but he needs to get an address from his ISP from his wifi connection to it
[03:51] <OerHeks> Borillion, no, i think you have GPT and using a tool that cannot handle that?
[03:51] <Wildbat> Is there a way to change mouse scrollwheel speed system wide?
[03:52] <Borillion> OerHeks it was ext4 when I could read it
[03:52] <L3top> I think I am happy I use LinuxMCE and it does all this crap automagically http://pastebin.com/QEKUWs2N
[03:53] <sacarlson> L3top: I'm not sure that was to me and I can't read http://pastebin.com as my ISP has it filtered out
[03:53] <L3top> thats my dhcp.conf is all, and yes... it was aimed at you. I am familiar with it because I have to write stuff to be included, but do not have a firm understanding because it all "just works" for me.
[03:53] <ntiy> how can I compress a directory into many tar files, so that each individual .tar is small?
[03:53] <celthunder> sacarlson: your isp filters pastebin? who is your isp..and why do you not go around there filters..more to the point why are you paying them to filter you
[03:54] <genii-around> -9
[03:54] <L3top> excellent question celthunder.
[03:54] <Abhijit> hi guys. anyone knows a working widget/screenlet or something for gnome3 shell for currency converting?
[03:54] <celthunder> my isp filters me i go around it they complain i go elsewhere
[03:55] <sacarlson> celthunder: it has something to do with india law suit for torrents that use pastebin.com to host torrents.  it's not in dns it's in ip filter I guess
[03:55] <celthunder> sacarlson: vpn
[03:56] <ntiy> oh, split
[03:56] <sacarlson> celthunder: I was getting a web proxy working for some time but my ISP works on filtering them also
[03:56] <celthunder> and you cant stop torrenting anyway...idk why people dont just support it.  i torrent all the time.  if your product is good people will still go and pay you for it
[03:57] <sacarlson> celthunder: seem the more I try to go around them the more they filter so sometimes if you don't really need it don't do it
[03:57] <celthunder> if its a bad product (quite a bit of things) or not worth what you sell it for (adobe) people wont pay you
[03:58] <celthunder> sacarlson: lol just buy a server or vps and make a vpn to tunnell al your traffic to
[03:58] <celthunder> if they ask say its your employers
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: found one for KDE so far..
[03:58] <sacarlson> celthunder: I'm not a rich man like you very poor boy in Thailand
[03:59] <celthunder> im piss broke
[03:59] <celthunder> lol
[03:59] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, ammm. will it work flawlesslly / smoothly in gnome shell?
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2012/04/trick-currency-converter-on-command.html
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: you could make a gui thing for that
[04:01] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, ok
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: that code works well :)
[04:03] <nate_> is there any alsa-drivers downloads that you don
[04:04] <nate_> don't have to ./configure & make & make install but just the binary so you can modprobe the ,ko files
[04:04] <nate_> i,e just a download of all the binaries / .ko files needed in modprobeinng or using  alsa-driver not interested in building and currently don;t have a working gcc anyway. plus don't want to build just install
[04:04] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, good one
[04:04] <L3top> nate_: apt-get install alsa-base
[04:04] <L3top> nate_: apt-get install alsa-utils
[04:05] <L3top> nate_: what version buntu you on?\
[04:05] <sacarlson> for anyone in thailand or indea I found what seems to be a working web proxy for http://pastebin.com problems http://www.webproxy.ca/  it works today but who knows about tomaro
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> nate_: that's what the repos are for, they are all binaries..
[04:07] <sacarlson> celthunder: see with an investment of time there is always a free method
[04:07] <nate_> not on a ubuntu system need it for a centos yum system so I was trying to wget it since they don't seem to have it in the repo that I have be default so is there a wget that allows you just to get the binary not have to build it from sources
[04:08] <celthunder> sacarlson: you can also set up your own pastebin thats free too theres hundreds of them
[04:08] <celthunder> :)
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> nate_: sudo apt-get install -d alsa-base alsa-utils
[04:09] <nate_> I understand that but don't really need a local pastebin when I got tons all over the net to uses... not like I am trying to hide info or something
[04:09] <nate_> is there a .tar I can wget instead?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> sure
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> nate_: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Driver_Compilation   all the tar's are source though
[04:10] <sacarlson> celthunder: yes but the problem is that people here like to use http://pastebin.com and I can't read it without this present method with http://www.webproxy.ca/ to see the results
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: I use pastie, it runs fast on mobile devices
[04:14] <nate_> crap does anybody want to apt-get the binaries and send me over the deb files for them ? or just extract the binary parts I need and tar them up?
[04:15] <nate_> :) sucks to here about the tar files being all source builds but I guess that is the smart thing to do anyway
[04:16] <L3top> You can download the packages and extract what you need... or the source... I am not understanding what you want nate_.
[04:16] <L3top> apt-get is your friend.
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> nate_: apt-get install -d   will download the debs for you and put them in /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:16] <genii-around> L3top: Centos system
[04:17] <L3top> Guess I should get around to figuring out what that is genii-around.
[04:20] <nate_> sudo yum install apt-get gives me no package exists I am screwed
[04:22] <L3top> nate_: I would expect aptitude... but what you are doing is a bit outside of the norm.
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> nate_: you'd run the apt-get command in Ubuntu, then transfer the files...
[04:22] <L3top> nate_: wait... there is a site to dl the debs.
[04:22] <L3top> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ nate_
[04:23] <L3top> that is probably what you want, and it will show depends etc
[04:23] <estevam> hi
[04:24] <L3top> of course... it is probably easiest to do what ActionParsnip said, and download and extract the binaries from the packages in ubuntu and then xfer them
[04:24] <mi3> hi!
[04:26] <nate_> thanks I forgot about that stupid me I will have to try downloading at that rpm site again to get the rpm version guess it won't matter though since I can extract it from a deb or rpm package the problem will arise in installing it and it installing at all
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> whenever i detatch my screen session, weechat goes back to the first buffer when i reatatch.. wonder why its doing that.
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> nate_: doesn't centos have sound or something?
[04:30] <thyagu> join #git
[04:31] <Alan502> Is the default gateway of a computer determined by an ip adress?
[04:31] <Alan502> i mean
[04:31] <Alan502> dhcp server?
[04:32] <nate_> not for my old hardware dell computer no normally I would supect it would this is one of those rare rare ocassions kind of like to push the edge kind of stuff
[04:32] <sacarlson> Alan502: yes both come from the dhcp server
[04:32] <Alan502> sacarlson: hello sacarlson
[04:32] <Alan502> sacarlson: I am now trying a different approach
[04:32] <Alan502> sacarlson: I want to use the dhcp server on the router and use a squid transparent server to forward all the http requests
[04:33] <Alan502> sacarlson: to do this I just would need all devices on the same lan network and have the computer with internet access and squid installed with the lowest ip adress right? (so that other systems try to access the internet through it and use squid trasnparent server)
[04:34] <sacarlson> Alan502: I was thinking since to connect to your wifi ISP you must use dhcp to get that so you would have to add the line INTERFACES="ethX"  with the device that is on your non isp side
[04:34] <sacarlson> Alan502: oh they are all on the same network card?
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> !away > VGoff_afk
[04:35] <Alan502> sacarlson: no no, there is one card connected to the internet (wireless) and one to the home lan (wired)
[04:35] <sacarlson> Alan502: I don't use squid I just forward through my router
[04:35] <Alan502> sacarlson: I have done that, can't remember in which specific file but I am sure i have set INTERFACES="eth0" somewhere as I found it on a forum post
[04:35] <sacarlson> Alan502: and you pick up your ISP on the wifi side with dhcp ?
[04:36] <Alan502> sacarlson: yes
[04:36] <Alan502> sacarlson: the wifi has dhcp
[04:36] <sacarlson> Alan502: it wasn't in the file you sent us
[04:36] <Alan502> sacarlson: so i need to add it in that file?
[04:37] <sacarlson> Alan502: if you aren't having probems getting a working address from your wifi ISP I guess you must have something correct
[04:37] <Alan502> sacarlson: yes my wifi's ISP gives me my address via dhcp
[04:38] <Alan502> sacarlson: right now I have my internet connected system and my other systems in the same lan network 192.168.1.x via the dhcp of my home router
[04:38] <sacarlson> Alan502: and what device is this ISP on?
[04:38] <Alan502> sacarlson: wlan0
[04:39] <sacarlson> Alan502: oh so you don't have the mask for the two nets setup correct?   let me see ifconfig wlan0  and ifconfig eth0
[04:40] <Alan502> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1041869/
[04:41] <Alan502> sacarlson: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1041869/   eth0 is on the same lan network as my other devices with 192.168.1.x does that help?
[04:41] <monkey> quit
[04:41] <monkey> exit
[04:41] <Alan502> monkey: try a / in front of that
[04:41] <monkey> ;)
[04:41] <sacarlson> Alan502: Alan502 ok that looks good and route -n
[04:42] <Alan502> sacarlson: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1041873/
[04:42] <sacarlson> Alan502: ya all your other devices should be on eth0 side
[04:42] <Alan502> sacarlson: aha
[04:43] <Alan502> :D
[04:43] <sacarlson> Alan502: but this route looks mest up  I think
[04:43] <Alan502> yeah?
[04:44] <sacarlson> Alan502: it apears you ISP is 0.0.0.0         192.168.0.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0   this 192.168.0.1  I thought the wifi was your ISP
[04:45] <Alan502> sacarlson: my wifi is my isp
[04:45] <Alan502> sacarlson: if i go to network manager and click on disconnect wifi i will no longer have internet
[04:45] <sacarlson> Alan502: well then your wifi connects to a device on 192.168.0.1?
[04:45] <ra0mb1er> hi  everyone
[04:46] <Alan502> sacarlson: i think so
[04:46] <sacarlson> Alan502: well that's on eth0 not wlan0
[04:47] <Alan502> sacarlson: i am not sure how it works to be hones
[04:48] <Alan502> sacarlson: at the ip adresses/routing level
[04:48] <sacarlson> Alan502: I would think if you disconect wlan0 you should still be connected to something
[04:48] <Alan502> sacarlson: but my wifi connects to a network which then I use a proxy in that netwrok to connect to the internet
[04:48] <Alan502> sacarlson: yes, I will be connected to my home network
[04:48] <sacarlson> Alan502: you over complicate with this proxy I guess
[04:49] <Alan502> sacarlson: I have no control over this network
[04:49] <sacarlson> Alan502: start simple and add proxy later
[04:50] <sacarlson> Alan502: I guess I don't have the full picture as I don't understand how your proxy works
[04:50] <Alan502> sacarlson: it is just a regular http proxy
[04:51] <sacarlson> Alan502: and what is the address of this proxy?
[04:51] <re-sure-pus> how do i get the terminal up?
[04:51] <sacarlson> Alan502: just for grins you should be able to run without eth0 connected on this computer correct?
[04:51] <Alan502> sacarlson: 192.168.3.9:8080
[04:52] <Alan502> sacarlson: correct
[04:52] <re-sure-pus> sacarlson: how much do you know about ubuntu
[04:52] <sacarlson> Alan502: oh ok well that's what I was missing so that will route then
[04:53] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: never enuf
[04:53] <Alan502> sacarlson: aha
[04:53] <sacarlson> Alan502: so that address should be what you set in your dhcp route then I guess
[04:54] <re-sure-pus> sacarlson: how can i make my system preform better?
[04:54] <Alan502> sacarlson: the proxy address?
[04:54] <Kryvysh> quick question. Idk what I did now I'm running in Ubuntu 2D, how do I switch it back?
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> re-sure-pus: press CTRL+ALT+T for a terminal
[04:54] <sacarlson> Alan502: so this line has always been wrong  option routers 192.168.1.254;
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> Kryvysh: press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace
[04:55] <L3top> Kryvysh: at login, press the little icon thingy in the corner and choose Unity.
[04:55] <L3top> or... that is better
[04:55] <Alan502> sacarlson: should be option routers 192.168.3.9?
[04:55] <Kryvysh> lol, thanks 2 two :)
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> Unity2D ftw
[04:55] <sacarlson> Alan502:  option routers 192.168.3.9 ?  but how do you add the port 8080 ?  I'm not sure
[04:55] <re-sure-pus> whats the comand to show the system stats?
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> re-sure-pus: in what sense?
[04:56] <re-sure-pus> like  the prossesor speeds and ram, im interested in overclocking my cpu  :actionparsnip
[04:56] <sacarlson> Alan502: no that can't be correct its  option routers 192.168.1.1
[04:56] <saliak> anyone had luck getting avahi to broadcast a netatalk share such that it shows up in osx finder?  iv'e setup netatalk and can access my home directory, but I can't see it in finder's list of network places, and i have to access it by ip address
[04:57] <L3top> re-sure-pus: top
[04:57] <re-sure-pus> L3top , its just top?
[04:57] <sacarlson> Alan502: I guess I should have asked for all the info to start so I had the picture
[04:57] <L3top> re-sure-pus: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:58] <Alan502> sacarlson: but thats only for the dhcp server right?
[04:58] <re-sure-pus> L3top , alrighty ill give it a try thanks
[04:58] <sacarlson> Alan502: ya just that one line as far as I know
[04:58] <char> How do I run an application from the terminal?
[04:58] <Viking667> char: you type in its name
[04:59] <re-sure-pus> L3top , wont work :(
[04:59] <Viking667> i.e. gedit
[04:59] <sacarlson> Alan502: but you will have to setup the proxy on each of your clients that connect I don't know how to set that up auto
[04:59] <L3top> top will give you general process/mem usage... /proc/cpuinfo and /proc/meminfo will give you heaps of info
[04:59] <L3top> one second re-sure-pus
[04:59] <re-sure-pus> L3top , ight
[04:59] <L3top> yeah... they will work
[05:00] <sacarlson> Alan502: there might be some iptables redirect that can do it auto but the proxy is behond me
[05:00] <re-sure-pus> L3top , im gettin an error
[05:00] <L3top> With what and what is the error
[05:01] <re-sure-pus> the terminal thing
[05:01] <Alan502> sacarlson: thanks
[05:01] <L3top> which terminal command, and what is the error?
[05:01] <roasted> Is there a way to crop a video in Ubuntu?
[05:01] <L3top> !details | re-sure-pus
[05:02] <re-sure-pus> sacarlson: what do i do when the terminal says cat is not valid
[05:02] <sacarlson> Alan502: and might want to add INTERFACES="eth0"  to the config as well I don't think it could hert
[05:02] <re-sure-pus> L3top , it says its not a comand
[05:02] <L3top> cat?
[05:02] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: I would need to see the line you did at the term
[05:03] <re-sure-pus> L3top , it says cat not a comand
[05:03] <L3top> no.
[05:03] <L3top> cat (space) /proc/cpuinfo
[05:03] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: try whereis cat
[05:03] <Zylum> why is it every time I run a game in wine, could be any game, the fps is incredibly low?  I'm using an xfire 2gb radeon 6700 setup.. I've tried every driver, tinkered with every setting but nothing ever seems to run as well as it does in windows
[05:04] <re-sure-pus> sacarlson: i put cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:04] <re-sure-pus> sacarlson: is this a joke?
[05:04] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: I think cat is installed as default
[05:04] <wylde_> Zylum: might want to ask in #winehq
[05:05] <L3top> re-sure-pus: no it is not a joke.
[05:05] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: I see  whereis cat
[05:05] <sacarlson> cat: /bin/cat /usr/share/man/man1/cat.1.gz
[05:05] <re-sure-pus> sacarlson: ok ill type it in
[05:05] <cliffster> hi
[05:06] <cliffster> 12.04
[05:06] <re-sure-pus> sacarlson: its not a command ether... seriusly i would like some help from some one
[05:06] <cliffster> in case others ask, it was a bitch to set up on a USB  HDD
[05:06] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: sound like you shell path might be mest up
[05:07] <re-sure-pus> sacarlson: how do i fix that?
[05:07] <cliffster> paid $70 for a cheap HDD
[05:07] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: try echo $PATH
[05:07] <L3top> he wont have echo either
[05:07] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: or your not fully booted?
[05:07] <L3top> these are all builtins
[05:08] <re-sure-pus> thats a command
[05:08] <cliffster> never did get the USB HDD thing working... a CD install onto a USB HDD
[05:08] <re-sure-pus> sacarlson: it worked
[05:08] <L3top> echo "$PATH"
[05:08] <L3top> what is the output?
[05:08] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: /bin/cat
[05:08] <re-sure-pus> its $path
[05:08] <cliffster> also
[05:09] <Gallomimia> hi there i'm having a minor problem: every time i login to my ubuntu box via ssh it says i have 71 updates to perform. well i just performed the updates.... twice. how can they run more than once?? it also says i have a load higher than 2.0 when i don't and thus stats are disabled. what's wrong with the update of this message? why is it out of date?
[05:09] <L3top> re-sure-pus: are you talking to us on the machine you are typing these things on?
[05:09] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: it is case sensitive
[05:09] <L3top> re-sure-pus: Capitalization counts, for one...
[05:09] <L3top> however... it shouldnt have echoed that
[05:09] <L3top> it should have echoed the value of the string path, which would have been empty
[05:10] <re-sure-pus> yeah i typed it like  echo $path  then it poped out  $path
[05:10] <cliffster> a 12.04 install...don't do it to a pure USB HDD
[05:10] <cliffster> major trouble
[05:10] <cliffster> I didn't say "from", I said to
[05:10] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: use CAPITAL leters when asked
[05:11] <L3top> Still not going to get that output...
[05:11] <re-sure-pus> ok what should be capitalised?
[05:11] <cliffster> 12.04 doesn't like seeing a USB drive as the only HDD
[05:11] <cliffster> (as the target)
[05:11] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus:  echo $PATH
[05:12] <L3top> (should put that in quotes sacarlson)
[05:12] <re-sure-pus> ohhh ok
[05:12]  * cliffster has a smoke
[05:12] <cliffster> Oh, and btw
[05:12] <re-sure-pus> when i type   echo $PATH     i get     $PATH
[05:12] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: also we might try /bin/cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:12] <cliffster> LAMP is gonna make my day
[05:13] <sacarlson> L3top: funny that without "" works is that something setup in my env?
[05:13] <cliffster> X says, "There's no X here"
[05:13] <cliffster> lol
[05:14] <re-sure-pus> should i just put    /bin/cat
[05:14] <L3top> It will work. It is just wrong. If, for instance, the variable had multiple lines, it would blurt it all out on the same line.
[05:14] <nate_> try http://www.sendspace.com/file/mrs12z :) don't need to build it LOL if you know what it is
[05:14] <cliffster> what's with the floodbots?
[05:14] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: I think we should also try as L3top suggests and put ""   with echo "$PATH"  ;
[05:15] <re-sure-pus> ugh.. ok lol
[05:15]  * cliffster is no stranger to pulling shit l;ike that off irc channels
[05:15] <bazhang> !ot | cliffster
[05:15] <bazhang> cliffster, no cursing here
[05:15] <cliffster> yea, I know, just asking
[05:16] <cliffster> and sorry for the f words
[05:16] <cliffster> lol
[05:16] <re-sure-pus> when i add "" i just get  the same deal    "$PATH"
[05:16] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: well the full /bin/cat /proc/cpuinfo ;  would be my next try
[05:16] <cliffster> I'm kinda new to this
[05:16] <bazhang> cliffster, stop with the excessive chit chat
[05:16] <cliffster> baz
[05:17] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: how did this thing boot?  is it fully booted?
[05:17]  * cliffster admits to being a noob
[05:17] <re-sure-pus> that directory/path dosent exist?
[05:17] <cliffster> all I wanna do is get 12.04 working with apache
[05:17] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: doesn't seem you have a root sytem mounted
[05:17] <cliffster> so shoot me
[05:17] <Gallomimia> okay so the files /var/run/motd and motd.new what is responsible for updating these things
[05:17] <re-sure-pus> yeah its got the chat thing goin and a terminal
[05:18] <cliffster> the terminal rox
[05:18] <cliffster> I can do that
[05:18] <re-sure-pus> sacarlson: where did i go wrong??
[05:18] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: maybe it's the way this user is configured with minimal access to resources?
[05:19] <Gallomimia> re-sure-pus: then you'll want to watch out for procedures that will result in loss of connection to the room while you're on the same system as you're editing
[05:19] <re-sure-pus> sacarlson: i dont know anything about this stuff, its all giberish to me
[05:19] <cliffster> lemme read it
[05:19] <cliffster> Gall makes sense
[05:20] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: I don't know what you did I expect you might want to reboot.  I don't know what state your system is in and without resources can't do anything
[05:20] <Gallomimia> Gall only makes sense in a gall-bladder, or later in the small intestine as it's being used.
[05:20] <re-sure-pus> sacarlson: smaller words plz
[05:20] <cliffster> lol
[05:20] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: reboot
[05:20] <cliffster> reboot...sounds like ewwww windowz
[05:21] <re-sure-pus> sacarlson: you want me to turn it off right?
[05:21]  * cliffster selected LAMP for a reason
[05:21] <L3top> sacarlson: bing=$(echo -e "a\nb"); echo $bing; echo "$bing"               just so you can see what I am saying.
[05:21] <Gallomimia> sounds like a game just dropped and all the characters need to turn into game sprites to beat the user
[05:21] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: I'm out of ideas any one step in
[05:21] <cliffster> sorry
[05:21] <cliffster> anyways
[05:22] <bazhang> cliffster, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[05:22] <cliffster> alright, let me try it
[05:22] <re-sure-pus> cliftster
[05:22] <sacarlson> L3top: that's the default env settings I guess?
[05:22] <Gallomimia> it wouldn't be so spammy in here if this cmr guy would just fix his flood problem.
[05:22] <cliffster> yes, re?
[05:23] <re-sure-pus> cliftster cam you help me with my system?
[05:23] <cliffster> I can try
[05:23]  * cliffster runs 12.04
[05:23] <cliffster> desktop
[05:23] <re-sure-pus> cliftster any comand i try says its not a command
[05:24] <L3top> re-sure-pus: type env
[05:24] <cliffster> what L3 says
[05:24] <cliffster> ubuntu is a fine OS
[05:24] <re-sure-pus> cliftster L3top it says its not a command
[05:25] <re-sure-pus> cliftster, L3top, it says its not a command
[05:25] <cliffster> perhaps he/she isn't at the command line
[05:25] <immonen> #Pro hotelli
[05:25] <cliffster> <--- just some old guy
[05:25] <immonen> #prohotelli
[05:25] <sacarlson> L3top: what you think reboot for re-sure-pus?  I'll stay out of it if you have any other ideas
[05:25] <cliffster> pro
[05:25] <L3top> I cannot imagine it would spit xxx is not a command if he werent...
[05:26] <cliffster> hard to go wrong with a re-boot
[05:26] <L3top> I think he should reboot, and if it is persistent, something is terribly wrong with the install
[05:26] <sacarlson> L3top: I secound that re-sure-pus
[05:27]  * L3top doesn't understand how it COULD function in this state.
[05:27] <re-sure-pus> so just turn it off?
[05:27] <sacarlson> wow 0 for 3 for me and rising
[05:27] <L3top> if I have to explain what reboot means... it is gonna be a long night.
[05:28] <Viking667> L3top: welcome (once again) to helldesk 101
[05:29] <L3top> re-sure-pus: /sbin/reboot
[05:29] <L3top> (that will actually just shut down most likely... odd little thing)
[05:29] <sacarlson> L3top: it would have to be power off he has no commands re-sure-pus
[05:29] <Gallomimia> shutdown -r now
[05:29] <L3top> /sbin/reboot is a binary
[05:30] <Gallomimia> so.... anyone know anything about /var/run/motd(.new)
[05:30] <L3top> in fact... interestingly... ls -l /sbin/shutdown
[05:30] <sacarlson> L3top: it's like he has not root so no /bin /sbin ....
[05:30] <L3top> ahhhhhhh aren't you the shiny penny sacarlson... I wonder if he DOES have sudo...
[05:30] <Gallomimia> L3top: weird.... it has +x for everyone eh?
[05:31] <tokinwhiteman> Hey
[05:31] <L3top> sorry... I meant ls -l /sbin/poweroff
[05:31] <tokinwhiteman> I am having trouble installing Skype 4.0, I keep getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1041914/
[05:32] <Gallomimia> hah. now that's funny
[05:32] <Alan502> My ubuntu has something very weird. Before, I couldn't see dhcp3-server under /etc/init.d now I cant see iptables under /etc/init.d/ what could it be?
[05:32]  * Viking667 blinks. Skype 4??
[05:32] <tokinwhiteman> I have tried both an upgrade path and install path after purging skype
[05:32] <Gallomimia> skype 4 came out today... or yesterday?
[05:32] <tokinwhiteman> ideas?
[05:32] <Viking667> tokinwhiteman: what platform are you attempting to install SKype4 on?
[05:32] <wylde_> hmmm victim of a misused rm -rf command? If so a reboot is going to....well.....you know
[05:32] <tokinwhiteman> ubuntu 12.04 x86-64
[05:32] <Viking667> Gallomimia: wow. I wasn't aware of that. I'm still on 2.25.xx.ff
[05:33] <Viking667> sorry 2.2.0.35
[05:33] <Gallomimia> i happened to visit the skype page and they're proudly toting skype4 for linux
[05:33] <Viking667> sigh. Figures. You know it's now owned by Microsoft, don't you?
[05:33] <tokinwhiteman> Yea it was all over reddit today on r/linux and r/ubuntu
[05:33] <Gallomimia> i can tell you on mac and windows it looks fucking horrible so
[05:33] <Gallomimia> i didn't actually!
[05:33] <Gallomimia> but i had already decided to never rely upon them in a free society
[05:34] <Viking667> That's rather old news. For nearly six months or so.
[05:34] <re-sure-pus> help?
[05:34] <cliffster> .
[05:34] <Gallomimia> well not something i follow all the time... this is quite off topic tho, and i'm still trying to figure out what the frack handles the motd files in ubuntu
[05:35] <L3top> re-sure-pus: what happens if you type sudo /sbin/reboot
[05:35] <Viking667>  that'd be /etc/issue, and /etc/issue.net I think.
[05:35] <Viking667> as for motd, I don't know what provides that.
[05:35] <Gallomimia> re-sure-pus the working theory is now that you've accidentally erased most of your hard drive and any kind of reboot and any kind of attempts to fix it are going to fail. backup any files you can and reinstall would be the solution. make sure first
[05:35] <sacarlson> Alan502: there is no iptables  in /etc/init.d
[05:35] <cliffster> (and I got bounced?) lol
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> Gallomimia: I usinstaled the old first, installed ok :)
[05:35] <Gallomimia> i don't think iptables is a service?
[05:36] <Gallomimia> ActionParsnip: i'm sorry the old what? i think it's been a few days since i spoke to you last...
[05:36] <re-sure-pus> it says its not a command
[05:36] <tenX> Gallomimia: right
[05:36] <sacarlson> Gallomimia: is correct iptables is not a service Alan502:
[05:36] <Gallomimia> re-sure-pus: then you've destroyed that system. backup your files and reinstall ubuntu
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> Gallomimia: the skype, if you uninstall old skype and install the new deb it installs ok
[05:36] <L3top> yeah... I agree you have chunked this install re-sure-pus
[05:36] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: did you power off power on yet?
[05:37] <Gallomimia> i don't use skype on a linux machine... as for iptables it's built into the networking portion of the kernel right?
[05:37] <wylde_> re-sure-pus: you didn't happen to use any 'rm' commands before this problem came up did you?
[05:37] <tokinwhiteman> ActionParsnip: I tried that didn't work for me.heres my error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1041914/
[05:37] <Noize> how do i figure out my my numbers in this commandline? " sudo modprobe iwl#### ?
[05:37] <re-sure-pus> when i push it it dosent turn off
[05:38] <Gallomimia> pull the power plug out
[05:38] <Gallomimia> that'll turn it off
[05:38] <Gallomimia> then try to reboot
[05:38] <Gallomimia> wait
[05:38] <FloodBot1> Gallomimia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:38] <tenX> Gallomimia: interface for kernel netfilter
[05:38] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: eather push the reset botton or hold power for 12 secounds
[05:38] <L3top> hold the power button down for 5 seconds
[05:38] <Gallomimia> do you have any files you NEED on this system?
[05:38] <cliffster> I apologize
[05:38] <Alan502> sacarlson: should i be able to run?             sudo service iptables save         right?
[05:39] <sacarlson> Alan502: maybe without the service part
[05:39] <elky> cliffster, join #ubuntu-ops to discuss the ban please
[05:39] <cliffster> OK, elky
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> Noize: hit tab a few times, you will get suggestions
[05:39] <re-sure-pus> well its my moms computer
[05:40] <Gallomimia> then you should try and back up everything in /home
[05:40] <re-sure-pus> how?
[05:40] <sacarlson> Alan502:  I think it's sudo iptables-save  and sudo iptables-restore
[05:40] <tokinwhiteman> anyone have any idea's here?
[05:40] <Gallomimia> scp -R /home myusername@myothercomputersip:backupfoldername
[05:40] <wylde_> Gallomimia: apparently he has no commands available. Hence my suggestion that a particular rm command was used.
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> tokinwhiteman: did you uninstall the old skype first?
[05:41] <Gallomimia> yeah i am starting to agree with you wylde_
[05:41] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: you broke it you fix it
[05:41] <tokinwhiteman> not at first, when it failed, i did then it didn't work, then i purged skype and tried to reinstall
[05:42] <re-sure-pus> sacarlson: ive been holding the power button for a while and its still not turning off.. un plug it then?
[05:42] <Gallomimia> well first
[05:42] <tokinwhiteman> yea unplug it man
[05:42] <Gallomimia> you should do the backup
[05:42] <Gallomimia> cause if our theory is correct
[05:43] <L3top> tokinwhiteman: uname -m
[05:43] <Gallomimia> it WILL NOT boot back up
[05:43] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: yes last resort unplug it
[05:43] <Gallomimia> backup your mom's files first
[05:43] <Gallomimia> unless you want her to commit infanticide.
[05:43] <wylde_> Gallomimia: there'll be no files to backup if that rm command was used against / which kind of seems to be the case
[05:43] <tokinwhiteman> L3top   x86_64
[05:44] <Gallomimia> ah that sucks
[05:44] <Gallomimia> well look inside /home and see what there is
[05:44] <tokinwhiteman> re-sure-pus do you at least have a terminal in front of you?
[05:44] <Gallomimia> tokinwhiteman: he's on it. now
[05:44] <wylde_> the only applications available will be the ones still in memroy heh
[05:44] <L3top> tokinwhiteman: I would apt-get remove it and reinstall.
[05:45] <wylde_> memory*
[05:45] <Gallomimia> wylde_ he i suppose the scp command will fail too
[05:45] <wylde_> from what I'm seeing, yep
[05:46] <Gallomimia> well.... if that's the case, sorry for you re-sure-pus. everything's gone.
[05:46] <re-sure-pus> but i have the terminal
[05:46] <wylde_> I haven't been watching intently, but what I did see seems like only the shell built-ins are usable. No external commands seem to work.
[05:46] <Gallomimia> type ls -l /
[05:46] <sacarlson> Gallomimia:  re-sure-pus might be able to mount the present disk from a live cd boot and recover files from /home/??
[05:47] <L3top> wylde_: buitins dont work unless they are in memory
[05:47] <re-sure-pus> where theres a shell theres a way?
[05:47] <L3top> wylde_: and echo isn't even working right.
[05:47] <tokinwhiteman> L3top I already tried that, didn't work, heres the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1041924/
[05:47] <Gallomimia> sacarlson, re-sure-pus it's possible yes.
[05:47] <sacarlson> Gallomimia: or maybe it will just boot up and work perfectly for the rest of his moms life
[05:47] <wylde_> L3top: ahh ok, I must have missed that.
[05:47] <Gallomimia> who knows
[05:47] <re-sure-pus> thank god
[05:47] <sacarlson> Gallomimia: that is if he kills her tomaro
[05:48] <L3top> No... the terminal just runs commands, commands you have all erased
[05:48] <Gallomimia> a few more tests to see if it's actually been deleted, then a reboot to a live cd
[05:48] <L3top> re-sure-pus: cd /sbin
[05:48] <tokinwhiteman> well he could use a magnet on the ha... oh well, that won't work
[05:48] <L3top> is cd not a command re-sure-pus?
[05:48] <D3bash3r> http://debasher.ru/
[05:48] <Robr3rd> I was deleting some unused iconsets, and somewhere along the line I removed some app-specific icons (such as Management Service, Mahjongg, Privacy, and various games). Where can I download these icons again (obviously the games are somewhat of a lost cause, but the "shipped with programs" are what I'm looking for
[05:49] <re-sure-pus> no but it says its not a directory
[05:49] <Gallomimia> very nice D3bash3r but i don't think they like to have spam in this channel. perhaps you could post it somewhere else where people from ubuntu will see?
[05:49] <wylde_> Robr3rd: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>
[05:49] <tokinwhiteman> re-sure-pus what does ls /home show?
[05:49] <Robr3rd> wylde_ Genius! I shall try that now
[05:50] <re-sure-pus> "ls" is not a command
[05:50] <Gallomimia> wow
[05:50] <tokinwhiteman> yea you might be screwed
[05:50] <Gallomimia> do a cd of it then
[05:50] <Gallomimia> cd /home
[05:50] <wylde_> re-sure-pus: you're in trouble dude.
[05:50] <re-sure-pus> it just says its not a directory
[05:50] <Gallomimia> cd /boot     ?
[05:51] <tokinwhiteman> better throw it out and say a crackhead stole it
[05:51] <re-sure-pus> also not a directort
[05:51] <Gallomimia> your system is destroyed.
[05:51] <re-sure-pus> also not a directory
[05:51] <Gallomimia> all files are gone
[05:51] <L3top> and if it aint ext2 you aint gettin it back.
[05:51] <Gallomimia> everything. the os, all saved documents, music
[05:51] <Gallomimia> it's gone.
[05:51] <Gallomimia> try recovering using a live cd
[05:51] <tokinwhiteman> forever....
[05:51] <re-sure-pus> i think its fat32
[05:51] <tokinwhiteman> gone
[05:51] <wylde_> re-sure-pus: sounds like reboot to a live cd and research file recovery
[05:51] <Gallomimia> but at this point, your next step is to put a live cd in the drive and reboot
[05:51] <tokinwhiteman> L3top any more ideas?
[05:52] <Gallomimia> your computer has no programs to run, no OS to boot, and no files to use them on
[05:52] <L3top> tokinwhiteman: that looks like an install not a remove...
[05:52] <tokinwhiteman> yea
[05:52] <tokinwhiteman> i did the remove already
[05:52] <tokinwhiteman> that is trying to reinstall it
[05:52] <Gallomimia> sorry dude. always know what your commands will do before pressing enter
[05:52] <tokinwhiteman> man is your best friend
[05:53] <re-sure-pus> can i un delete them
[05:53] <tokinwhiteman> no
[05:53] <L3top> I expect skype has all sorts of numbers and info saved you dont want to deal with redoing...
[05:53] <tokinwhiteman> what do you mean?
[05:53] <wylde_> re-sure-pus: it will take a lot of time and patience.
[05:53] <L3top> tokinwhiteman: apt-get remove --purge
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> tokinwhiteman: is it instaling ok now?
[05:53] <re-sure-pus> my mom is going to freak out]
[05:54] <tokinwhiteman> nope
[05:54] <wylde_> re-sure-pus: lesson learned?
[05:54] <sacarlson> L3top: all skype info is on there servers all he needs is his account
[05:54] <re-sure-pus> is there any thing else i can do?
[05:54] <aeplus> i've lost four years of data, no biggie
[05:54] <L3top> re-sure-pus: df -h
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> tokinwhiteman: you can always force install the deb so that the conflicting file gets overwritten
[05:54] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: unplug it
[05:54] <L3top> not that it will work.
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> aeplus: backups are great
[05:55] <re-sure-pus> df isnt a command ether
[05:55] <L3top> re-sure-pus: to explain a bit better... the tools you would need to even try, have been deleted
[05:55] <aeplus> i'm a bacula person myself =)
[05:55] <re-sure-pus> hoe
[05:55] <wylde_> re-sure-pus: try doing data recovery from a live cd distro, and in future be careful what commands you use. Also, keep proper backups of important data
[05:55] <re-sure-pus> how**
[05:55] <L3top> No telling. It happend before you got here re-sure-pus.
[05:55] <cliffster> talk about sensitive
[05:56] <re-sure-pus> sigh
[05:56]  * cliffster reads about his apache server
[05:56] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: you might find out by looking at it with a live cd after you power of and on with a live cd/usb
[05:56] <L3top> cliffster: you don't seem to understand... this is NOT A CHAT ROOM
[05:56] <cliffster> OK
[05:56] <tokinwhiteman> HA!
[05:57] <L3top> stop hitting enter unless you have a question, a clear ubuntu support question, on one line... or an answer to someone elses question.
[05:57] <re-sure-pus> what if it wont turn back on
[05:57] <L3top> re-sure-pus: your only hope is if the FS is NOT current, and you can try to do recovery from a live cd
[05:58] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: then buy a new one
[05:58] <L3top> re-sure-pus: it is not going to load back up once it goes down.
[05:58] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: if you don't have the money get a job
[05:58] <re-sure-pus> alright bye im un pluging my computer
[05:58] <wylde_> re-sure-pus: the power will come on, but that's about it. Unless it's a dual boot
[05:58] <L3top> re-sure-pus: you will need to get your hands on a live cd
[05:59] <re-sure-pus> L3top how do i get that?
[05:59] <L3top> lol
[05:59] <L3top> that will be a trick
[05:59] <L3top> do you have a browser open?
[05:59] <sacarlson> re-sure-pus: with another computer if you don't already have
[06:00] <L3top> man... even if you get it downloaded... you have NO way to get it off or burned
[06:00] <bkerensa> re-sure-pus: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop <-- guides are on the right sidebar
[06:00] <re-sure-pus> chrome-google
[06:00] <tokinwhiteman> re-sure-pus it is always a good idea to have a live cd or usb handy at all times.
[06:01] <L3top> re-sure-pus: your best bet is to just play dumb. Unplug it... plug it back in, and walk away
[06:01] <L3top> re-sure-pus: or do the hard thing and fess up.
[06:01] <wylde_> re-sure-pus: http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/ looks interesting.
[06:01] <hekate> Hi, how do I change the default editor launched by quickly when I type `quickly edit` from gedit to something else?
[06:02] <nerdistmonk> I want to install pulseaudio from git (i am ready to compile it) but how do i replace the repo version of pulse with my new git version? the whole system depends on PA so i cant just remove the repo version.
[06:02] <L3top> but without an os.. .he cant do anything with it wylde_
[06:02] <sacarlson> L3top: I like that one ruuuun re-sure-pus
[06:02] <tokinwhiteman> wouldn't that be under default program?s
[06:02] <wylde_> L3top: yep, going to need another computer
[06:02] <noworldorder> total newbie needs help...
[06:02] <noworldorder> I would like to create a user with permission to access only one folder
[06:03] <re-sure-pus> what do i do after it downloads?
[06:03] <Gallomimia> noworldorder: that sounds pretty durn difficult. since everything on the system has access to plenty of stuff
[06:03] <Robr3rd> Hello, so I was removing some unused iconsets and somehow managed to delete many default and non-default apps' icons. Reinstalling the packages has not yielded any success. How might I get these icons back?
[06:03] <L3top> re-sure-pus: Unplug it and run... cause you have no way to get it onto anything.
[06:03] <tokinwhiteman> L3top and ActionParsnip. I used "apt-get autoremove skype and redownloaded the .deb from skype and resinstalled and it worked
[06:03] <L3top> Nice!
[06:04] <tokinwhiteman> I guess the purge didn't remove all the binary files or whatever
[06:04] <Gallomimia> noworldorder: can you be a bit more specific about what one folder you want them to have access to? is it full of programs? is it a few documents?
[06:04] <sacarlson> noworldorder: I guess you would just chmod to make all other dir unreadable to other and make this user a member of no groups that have any folders
[06:04] <noworldorder> Gallomimia - is is full of MP#s
[06:04] <noworldorder> MP3s
[06:04] <noworldorder> no ther folders
[06:05] <Gallomimia> and all programs?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> noworldorder:  and how is the user supposed to be accesing it?
[06:05] <noworldorder> remotly via ummm
[06:05] <Gallomimia> ssh scp sftp?
[06:05] <noworldorder> not putty but something like it that has a gui
[06:05] <noworldorder> ssh
[06:05] <Gallomimia> filezilla
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> winscp?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> ssh can use any ssh client,.
[06:06] <Gallomimia> okay. do you want them to have shell access?
[06:06] <tokinwhiteman> thanks guy, good night!
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> if they are sshing in. they can basically just access their own home. so whats the issue noworldorder ?
[06:06] <noworldorder> it is called Data Freeware
[06:06] <Gallomimia> he wants them to have access to the FILES not a shell
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> noworldorder:  that a windows app?
[06:07] <noworldorder> yes windows
[06:07] <wylde_> could chroot them to a directory inside the users home?
[06:07] <noworldorder> the user has XP
[06:07] <Gallomimia> noworldorder: userad -g [somegroup] -s /dev/null -d /path/to/mp3s
[06:07] <Gallomimia> oops. and one more thing
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> there are ways to setup a 'sftp' only  user
[06:07] <Gallomimia> add the username at the end of that
[06:07] <Abhijit> hi. there is no ./configure file in my gambas source code. how can i install it?
[06:07] <Abhijit> help pelase
[06:07] <Gallomimia> ./bootstrap
[06:07] <Gallomimia> first
[06:08] <noworldorder> Gallomimia - I am a newbie remember - I can do this but I need specific instructions
[06:08] <wylde_> Abhijit: from the repos? Why are you compiling?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> noworldorder:  why does it really matter? youi are afraind the user is going to ssh in and do somthing nasty?
[06:08] <Gallomimia> noworldorder: that makes two of us :) this command will make a user with the group you specify, no access to shell, and access to the directory you set. and you have to put the username at the end
[06:08] <Gallomimia> then you'll type passwd username
[06:08] <Abhijit> wylde, gambas 3 is not in repo
[06:08] <Gallomimia> and it'll ask you to set the password for them
[06:09] <Gallomimia> after that, you'll have to use some chmod stuff
[06:09] <pandu> ActionParsnip
[06:09] <noworldorder> hmm
[06:09] <noworldorder> chmod stuff
[06:09] <Gallomimia> or, it's possible to host a separate ssh or ftp server with greater restrictions. refer to software manuals for doing that
[06:09] <Gallomimia> chmod basically everything so they can't access it
[06:09] <noworldorder> so to beging with...
[06:10] <Gallomimia> i'm a noob in this regard also... but i've heard of the trick to set the user's shell to /dev/null
[06:10] <wylde_> Abhijit: there's a ppa for it on launchpad.
[06:10] <Gallomimia> the FIRST thing you need is the directory with mp3's in it. set your user's home dir to that
[06:10] <Abhijit> wylde, i dont want it
[06:11] <Gallomimia> then useradd with care
[06:11] <Gallomimia> then passwd
[06:11] <hekate> Hi, how do I change the default editor launched by quickly when I type `quickly edit` from gedit to something else?
[06:11] <sacarlson> noworldorder: I'm not sure how far you want to go but you can at least limit user not seeing other users folders with: cd /home ; chmod -R o=-rwx *
[06:11] <Gallomimia> then shore up any problems you have with file permissions. i'm hesitant to give you advice in this department since i don't know what taking away permissions for everyone will do
[06:12] <noworldorder> so I am a bit confused Gallomimia>
[06:12] <Gallomimia> sacarlson that's a good idea. only /home will protect things reasonably
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> seems a bit extrme making  user just for accessing some mp3 files.
[06:12] <noworldorder> you said: noworldorder: userad -g [somegroup] -s /dev/null -d /path/to/mp3s
[06:12] <noworldorder> but where does /bootstrap fit in
[06:12] <Gallomimia> is there a reason you don't want to use apache to host the files instead? you can make it require a user/pass that way too
[06:13] <Gallomimia> oops. /bootstrap was a message to someone else, sorry
[06:13] <noworldorder> what is apache?
[06:13] <Gallomimia> disregard
[06:13] <Gallomimia> apache is a webserver
[06:13] <Gallomimia> hosts on port 80
[06:13] <FloodBot1> Gallomimia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:13] <Gallomimia> SHUT UP FLOODBOT!!!
[06:13] <wylde_> !caps | :P
[06:13] <Robr3rd> Hello, so I was removing some unused iconsets and somehow managed to delete many default and non-default apps' icons. Reinstalling the packages has not yielded any success. How might I get these icons back? Any place/package to download them from?
[06:13] <Gallomimia> i wasn't shouting at you wylde :P
[06:13] <wylde_> :)
[06:14] <noworldorder> Gallominia - this server is using pot 80 for another purpose
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> !rbash
[06:14] <noworldorder> will there be an issue using apache?
[06:14] <Gallomimia> then change it to anything you want
[06:14] <Gallomimia> do you already have a web site on that machine?
[06:14] <ThePirateBay_se> I'm on Natty Narwhal, and I want to install the nvidia propriarety drivers, but I don't know if I'll get the newest ones if I do it via the "additional drivers" tool, will I?
[06:14] <hekate> I've tried setting the default text editor for python from gEdit to Sublime Text 2 with the Open With dialog in Nautilus, but to no luck, `quickly edit` still opens it with gedit
[06:14] <noworldorder> it is a voip server (of sorts)
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> may be easier to just make a normal user and set their shell to be the restricted bash shell 'rbash' that way they cant really do anything if they ssh in directly, other then  mess with the mp3 files/
[06:15] <Gallomimia> hekate i think you're going to want to change an environment variable called "EDITOR"
[06:15] <Gallomimia> there's another good idea.
 hoe do i do that ? (me newbie)
[06:16] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!
[06:16] <ponrajuganesh> is any one using emacs here
[06:16] <Gallomimia> i personally would just host all the files on apache and require a login/pass
[06:16] <Gallomimia> i wish i'd learned emacs
[06:16] <Gallomimia> is your question specific to ubuntu ponrajuganesh ??
[06:16] <dooglus> is it safe to run a -pae kernel on a 32 bit processor?
[06:17] <ponrajuganesh> is Gallomimia
[06:17] <noworldorder> so <Gallomimia> should google apache or is there somthing you would suggest there
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> noworldorder:  it would be worth  your time to red up on some linux basics so you are no longer anewbie. Im not even sure why you are doing all thos  for just mp3 files.  you would add a new user, then change tgheir shell  i think the gui tools let you do it under the user management stuff.
[06:17] <L3top> yes dooglus.
[06:17] <wylde_> hekate: 'man quickly' may also hold the answer :)
[06:17] <Gallomimia> noworldorder: if you want to put apache on your system it's just apt-get install apache2
[06:17] <ponrajuganesh> nope not like that , just I need to see the adding the .el file inside the emacs
[06:17] <dooglus> L3top: sweet
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> any fake webcam software for ubuntu?
[06:18] <L3top> What is fake webcam software?
[06:18] <dooglus> L3top: I'm using apt-cacher-ng to avoid having everyone download their own copy of the packages - but one old laptop is still 32bit.  all the rest use -pae, so want to switch the old one to it too, so avoid two different kernel package downloads
[06:18] <dooglus> L3top: he means like 'manycam.com' for windows - makes a virtual webcam device that you can stream movies etc. to
[06:19] <Gallomimia> agree with Dr_Willis for sure. noworldorder you definitely want to move toward not being a noob. best way is to sit in this channel and read what people are talking about while working on whatever you feel like working on, googling lots, and even better taking written notes
[06:19] <L3top> dooglus: that would be the way to do it. pae also gives you the ability to use large memory on 32 bit.
[06:19] <nerdistmonk> so how does one go about replacing a package thats installed with one i want to install from source
[06:19] <dooglus> nerdistmonk: look into 'checkinstall'
[06:19] <L3top> Ahh thanks for the education dooglus.
[06:19] <Abhijit> how to install libtoolize?
[06:19] <wylde_> !checkinstall | nerdistmonk
[06:20] <dooglus> L3top: and I've often wondered the same thing, but have long given up my search.  people use it to overlay subtitles on their webcam streams, for example
[06:20] <Gallomimia> ponrajuganesh: by the way i know very little about emacs. i was going to suggest you visit the #emacs channel and see if there's anyone there who knows the answer you seek
[06:20] <dooglus> L3top: or to add effects - warps, colour changes, etc.  maybe 'cheese' can do some of that, idk
[06:20] <nerdistmonk> ok, so when i run checkinstall (i got it) it will replace the old packages already in from the repo?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/134425/how-can-i-chroot-sftp-only-ssh-users-into-their-homes
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> dooglus:cheese cant do fake webcam i think
[06:21] <wylde_> nerdistmonk: no ,it will create .debs that you can use to install
[06:21] <noworldorder> I am looking at the gui - maybe it has the security features I need
[06:21] <dooglus> nerdistmonk: it will.  but maybe update-manager won't respect your new version, so you'll have to 'pin' your version
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> dooglus:  webcamstudio (not  in the repos) can also fake a webcam
[06:21] <Gallomimia> hey noworldorder look at that link Dr_Willis posted that's exactly what you want
[06:21] <nerdistmonk> webcamstudio dont work for beans on xubuntu 12.04, also thanks dooglus
[06:21] <dooglus> Dr_Willis: a linux program?  I didn't hear of it
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> dooglus:  its for linux, written in java. lets you do neat tricks with webcams and  things tht use webcams
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> dooglus:  like play a video and its 'sent' to the  webcam
[06:22] <dooglus> http://www.ws4gl.org/download/installing-on-ubuntu
[06:22] <nerdistmonk> it dont work at all
[06:22] <dooglus> Dr_Willis: thanks.  I'll give it a go
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> geese ive last used it
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> been ages..
[06:22] <dooglus> nerdistmonk: we'll see about that! ;)
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:24] <Gallomimia> pandu please don't randomly pm people in this channel. that's quite rude
[06:24] <dooglus> /msg Gallomimia what are you wearing?
[06:24] <Gallomimia> hehe
[06:25] <pandu> I didn't do it --"
[06:25] <Gallomimia> anyway, going to have a short convo with this guy
[06:25] <L3top> !pm | pandu
[06:26] <pandu> what's the meaning of pm ?
[06:26] <pandu> --"
[06:27] <dooglus> I tried installing webcamstudio, but it doesn't like my java7 jre, insists on java6, and "Need to get 86.2 MB of archives."
[06:27] <dooglus> I don't have 86.2 MB of bandwidth for the month left...
[06:27] <dooglus> pandu: "private massage"
 hiii :D    <=---------- that
[06:28] <dooglus> I was wondering earlier if there's a more efficient way of checking for updates than redownloading the whole 25MB Packages file every time
[06:29] <pandu> whats wrong with that ? -_________________-"
[06:29] <dooglus> I remember when I used debian it used to just download daily 'pdiff' files - the differences in the package file since the previous day
[06:29] <L3top> !pm | pandu
[06:29] <pandu> whats wrong with pm ? -________-"
 pandu: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[06:30] <pandu> cheese -_____-"
[06:30] <wylde_> !ot | pandu
[06:31] <pandu> I do -________-"
[06:32] <wylde_> pandu: do you have an ubuntu support question? If not, general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:32] <pratz> hey guys any one successfully installed vlc2.0 on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[06:33] <ThePirateBay_se> Does Flash on YouTube on x64 Ubuntu always suck ass?
[06:33] <L3top> Yes pratz... but I am not fond of it. It got bloated and buggy... and... I prefer the older versions.
[06:34] <traianow> hi all … I have a question relating to xorg, gdm and xdm running on an ubuntu server, with a sun ilom console:
[06:34] <Viking667> what's "sun ilom" mean?
[06:34] <L3top> ThePirateBay_se: yes. And watch the language. flash on linux is just bad in general, but esp on 64
[06:34] <traianow> basically, i'd like to have gdm over the sun ilom console when I connect to the server
[06:35] <ThePirateBay_se> L3top; Yay! Also, I'm not going to watch my language..
[06:35] <traianow> "sun ilom" = sun integrated lights out manager … like dell drac, or hp ilo ?
[06:35] <nerdistmonk> dooglas all checkinstall did was make a mess, maybe i should rephrase my question, im trying to install pulseaudio from git....
[06:35] <traianow> it's a remote kvm over ip like technology
[06:35] <L3top> ThePirateBay_se: Then you will get kicked in short order. Do you have a support question?
[06:35] <ThePirateBay_se> L3top; No.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> youtube supports html5 for maany videos now
[06:35] <Viking667> webm?
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> yepps
[06:36] <ThePirateBay_se> Yay.. Because we all know that HTML5 player is oh so good..
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> not all. but a large number of them
[06:36] <Viking667> I normally grab videos with youtube-dl, and play them using mplayer.
[06:37] <L3top> ThePirateBay_se: This is not a chatroom. If you want to chitchat/complain then go to #ubuntu-offtopic... but the same guidelines apply there.
[06:37] <traianow> well basically: when I try to start GDM I get: "ubuntu is running in low resolution mode … device driver and settings  for monitor could not be determined"
[06:37] <ThePirateBay_se> L3top; Whatever.
[06:37] <traianow> but when I make xdm the default  display manager, it works fine
[06:37] <L3top> what is the GPU on the server traianow
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> traianow:  that is odd.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> traianow:  so the desktop is the  proper res even  if it says its in low res mode?
[06:38] <traianow> L3top : I'm not sure, but basically , hee  there is no monitor, it's  SUN server and the ILOM/ILO/DRAC controller is providing "headless" remote console redirection
[06:38] <traianow> kind of like KVMoIP
[06:38] <traianow> Dr_Willis : yes
[06:39] <pandu> this is LOL :P
[06:39] <traianow> GDM can't pick it up and crashes, but XDM runs fine
[06:39] <nerdistmonk> how would i go about about install pulseaudio from source? i got it compiled and ready
[06:39] <traianow> so I'm wondering why XDM can determine the right graphics/device settings from Xorg but GDM can't ?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> traianow:  theres otrhe *dms out.. but im not sure why yiou need a DM at all.. guess for the remote desltops sessions. :)
[06:40] <wylde_> nerdistmonk: sudo make install
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> traianow:  id guess xdm isent even  looking..  its  a gdm failsafe featgure thats kicking in.
[06:40] <nerdistmonk> that isnt going to replace all those debs from the repo.....
[06:40] <traianow> Dr_Willis : yes, for remote management, and the remote management utilisites have to be run in a full desktop environment, GDM , sadly
[06:40] <nerdistmonk> sounds like it will make a mess
[06:40] <virtx> hi
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> gdm is just the login manager not the desktopo.
[06:41] <noworldorder> Dr_Willis - you are correct - I need to learn linux - but in the mean time ... are you willing to spell out your suggestion for my file permission issue?
[06:41] <virtx> what can i see if in alsamixer the volume is ok, but the audio that i listen is only on line-out and not the speaker?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> noworldorder:  im on my android phoen. at worek.. so i dont have the luxery to spoonfead you stuff thats written up in various  docs.
[06:42] <pandu> who can install cicilalang on ubuntu ?
[06:42] <noworldorder> harsh
[06:42] <noworldorder> okay
[06:42] <nerdistmonk> sudo chown username:username /path/folder will grant ownership
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> !permissions
[06:42] <traianow> Dr_Willis : understood. Now the question would be : "Why can I get a fully functional desktop  when accessing the desktop via XDM, butnot with GDM ?"
[06:42] <traianow> that's what I need to pin down
[06:43] <pandu> anyone ?
[06:43] <noworldorder> thx ubotto
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> traianow:  what desktop is it using?
[06:43] <traianow> GNOME
[06:43] <kanupatar> how can I read the encoded data from CD using dd ? I have used the dd like this "dd if =/dev/cdrom of=<my path to destination iso>" bs=64k , But I am getting the decoded data.means no sync headers or any sector headers in the cd.
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> which gnome.. what vrsion of ubuntu also
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> kanupatar:  a music cd?
[06:44] <pandu> whooo can install cicilalang on ubuntu ?
[06:44] <L3top> pandu: what don't you get? This is not a place to play around? Why do people enjoy being banned?
[06:44] <kanupatar> Dr_Willis: any cd
[06:44] <traianow> Dr_Willis : Ubuntu 11.04 … GNOME version default …. but let me get back to you with the GNOME version
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> traianow:  so not gnome3 then
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> kanupatar:  data cds are differnt then music cds i belive
[06:45] <Borillion> Can anyone tell me why I see ttyUSB[0-3] when I plug in my modem?
[06:45] <pandu> i'm serious -______-"
[06:45] <pandu> who?
[06:45] <kanupatar> Dr_Willis: yeahh...data cd's are mode 2/3 and audio are mode 0 (cdda)
[06:45] <ThePirateBay_se> L3top; I have a question now. I have Natty and want to install the nvidia proprietary drivers, but I don't know if I'll have the latest if I use the Additional Drivers tool.
[06:45] <kanupatar> Dr_Willis: I need to read the header of any cd
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> i dont recall ever using dd to image a music cd. just data cds.
[06:46] <Borillion> dd works on all cd's
[06:46] <L3top> ThePirateBay_se: you will not get access to the most recent. I am not sure you need them though... newest isnt always best... what is the output of lspci -nn | grep 'VGA'
[06:46] <Borillion> you can even do dual layer ones works fine
[06:46] <kanupatar> Dr_Willis: any how, I need to get the encoded data from cd using dd..dont allow the cd mechanism to decode the data
[06:46] <Borillion> I mean dvd
[06:47] <pandu> somebodyy ? -____-"
[06:47] <Borillion> kanupatar what are you trying to do?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> kanupatar:  'encoded datga' ? why would a data cd be encoded
[06:47] <traianow> Dr_Willis : definitely not Gnome3
[06:47] <ThePirateBay_se> L3top; I'm not at it at the moment, I booted into Windows in the meantime. What would that output generally?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> Borillion:  ive seen video 'dvds' that dd cant  read. ;( or at least has a hard  time imageing.
[06:47] <pandu> bangkit :D
[06:48] <L3top> ThePirateBay_se: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200] [10de:0849] (rev a2) in my case.
[06:48] <Borillion> Dr_Willis interesting, have not run across that one yet
[06:48] <aargh> hi, anyone happen to know how to change the loading screen text in a minimal ubuntu install? it says "Ubuntu 12.04" currently, i'd like to change it something else
[06:48] <ThePirateBay_se> L3top; Oh, the um GPU? It's 8400GS.
[06:48] <L3top> the 0849 is what I am looking for to tell you the best driver for your chipset
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> traianow:  you could check askubuntu.com about how to disab le the low-res check.
[06:49] <L3top> the 0849 (in my case) is the PCIID.
[06:49] <malakeye> hey, im having trouble getting gnome volume & sound settings to work, but alsamixer (terminal) works fine.
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> traianow:  that may  be the easiest fix.
[06:49] <kanupatar> Borillion: I need to replace the cd mechanism decoder by software...and now the hardware is not yet ready for testing..so i need to get a dump of the cd to test my decoder code
[06:49] <L3top> However, nvidia-current in natty will be dandy.
[06:49] <Guest97734> ha?
[06:49] <kanupatar> Borillion: see my ans
[06:49] <traianow> Dr_Willis : thanks , let me  take  that route …. will feedback later
[06:49] <ThePirateBay_se> L3top; What if I use the um.. The latest .run installer from their site? I think that's the extension..
[06:49] <L3top> ThePirateBay_se: There is a regression in the 295 driver... it is better with the .53, but you are frankly better off with what is in your repo
[06:52] <ThePirateBay_se> L3top; I just have this feeling that newest is always better when it comes to Nvidia.. Dunno why.
[06:52] <malakeye> having trouble getting gnome volume & sound settings to work, but alsamixer (terminal) works fine - any suggestions?
[06:52] <blinkiz> Hello. What channel to ask for if question is about advanced dhclient.conf question?
[06:52] <blinkiz> Do it exist channel for dhcpd?
[06:52] <L3top> Like I said... newest isn't really synonymous with best. In the effort new chipsets, they sometimes gum up the works for older ones. The best imo for that guy was the 260... but... that was just a rock solid iteration.
[06:53] <Gallomimia> uh.... there's a channel for bind isn't there? i would visit a channel for the isc
[06:53] <Gallomimia> try #isc ??
[06:53] <terminhell> ello ello
[06:53] <LeelooGirl> I dont know/
[06:53] <LeelooGirl> isc?
[06:53] <ThePirateBay_se> L3top; So, should I just go with nvidia-current for natty?
[06:54] <L3top> malakeye: you can right click the volume icon, and select master channel I believe.
[06:54] <Borillion> is there an appropriate place for ubuntu/linux drivers thats more specific than here?
[06:54] <terminhell> Borillion: check the arch wiki?
[06:55] <L3top> ThePirateBay_se: I would apt-cache policy nvidia-current | grep Candidate     and apt-cache policy nividia-current-updates | grep Candidate
[06:55] <ThePirateBay_se> L3top; What would that do? Can you just copy it in paste.ubuntu.com?
[06:55] <L3top> malakeye: it is possible that it is tied to HDMI or something silly...
[06:55] <malakeye> L3top: using 12.04 - right click brings up volume, rhythmbox and sound settings - dead end
[06:55] <L3top> you can put them here, they are one liners
[06:56] <malakeye> L3top: perhaps, i have hda-intel and hdmi input although not using it atm
[06:56] <L3top> malakeye: truth be told I use KDE... somewhere in your system settings there will be a way to assign the channel being controlled
[06:56] <terminhell> i know on my laptop i have to switch to hdmi+digital audio 'device' when i want to use hdmi
[06:57] <malakeye> i remember having to update grub settings with radeon.hdmi=1 or something similar. will look into that..
[06:57] <L3top> ThePirateBay_se: It will tell us the versions avail for both, and I can tell you which I would use.
[06:57] <malakeye> .. in 11.10
[06:58] <L3top> malakeye: are you outputting on HDMI? Because there IS no volume control for that.
[06:58] <virtx> what can i see if in alsamixer the volume is ok, but the audio that i listen is only on line-out and not the speaker?
[06:58] <L3top> it is either on, or off
[06:58] <ThePirateBay_se> L3top; I'll boot into it in like 10-15 minutes and you can diagnose it I guess.
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> webcamstudio cant start because java sun folder doesnt exist..what to do?
[06:58] <L3top> No worries ThePirateBay_se. I will be here a while.
[06:58] <gaymish> hey guys, I have a slight problem with apache I was hoping you might understand. I want apache to respond to hostname in the Virtual Host only, not IP. I have set that but I think that the DNS is rewriting the address to an IP so Apache wont respond. Does anyone know the solution? I know its not a strictly ubuntu section but didnt know where to go.
[06:59] <gaymish> I think that dns cloaking might be what I am looking for?
[06:59] <L3top> lotuspsychje: you will need to go to oracles website and install the official java
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> l3top:for ubuntu then?
[06:59] <L3top> lotuspsychje: actually... there is a ppa, it is a whole lot easier
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> oh ok lemme try
[06:59] <L3top> lotuspsychje: no deb at oracle
[06:59] <LeelooGirl> java?
[07:00] <L3top> sun java LeelooGirl
[07:00] <L3top> not free java
[07:00] <malakeye> L3top: using laptop, no hdmi cable in there, so no. alsamixer in terminal is the only way i can volume up and down b/c the gnome volume control in the upper-right does not work
[07:00] <LeelooGirl> on ubuntu?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> Oracle (Sun) Java 6 is no longer available to be distributed by Ubuntu, because of license issues.
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:01] <aeplus> wow
[07:01] <L3top> yeah... its a... well... yeah.
[07:01] <LeelooGirl> i know ..that`s why i ask/
[07:01] <malakeye> installing gnome-alsamixer
[07:01] <Gallomimia> gaymish: i think you need to remove any server directives from outside the virtual host in your conf. the mechanism works when the client sends the hostname it's looking for
[07:01] <malakeye> quickfix :-P
[07:02] <malakeye> perhaps
[07:02] <L3top> malakeye: it is a setting in your system settings.
[07:02] <L3top> malakeye: I dont have any gnome/unity installed or I would go figure out where.
[07:04] <LeelooGirl> hateball ping timeout?
[07:04] <gaymish> Gallomimia: what do you mean by other server directives. It works when I have it respond to the IP as well as the domain names making me think that it is a DNS issue. The other thing is that the machine is behind a firewall so it is possible they may rewrite headers for the NAT.
[07:04] <traianow> Dr_Willis : question about XDM :
[07:04] <traianow> GDM can show a list of users in the login window
[07:05] <traianow> bu can XDM do the same ?
[07:05] <traianow> Google doesn't turn up andy  results for that … and I can't find any obvious options in the XDM config files ...
[07:05] <aeplus> gaymish, are you sure you used the NameVirtualHost directive correctly??
[07:05] <Gallomimia> gaymish there is nothing to do with NAT, headers, packets, firewalls, or DNS. the client sends the request to ip xx.xx.xx.xx and tells that server that it's looking for somedomain.com that is all
[07:05] <rob82_pcrs> ...
[07:06] <aeplus> i agree with Gallomimia, the http protocol will include a line that says "Host: xx.yy.zz" which is used to determine the virtual host
[07:06] <Gallomimia> it's been so long since i played with apache configs. so long in fact that apache2 was still in beta and everyone said "no you should use apache 1.4"
[07:07] <gaymish> aeplus, Gallomimia: I'll have a look at the directives now. Thanks for your help, Apache is such a headache...
[07:07] <aeplus> been deploying it for years, i still remember how long it took me the first time around
[07:07] <Gallomimia> yes it's a bit of an odd one. your other option would be to have it direct to a DIFFERENT website when no matching virtual hosts are found
[07:07] <PyroBlastGuest> Is there something like this in Ubuntu? http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/image21.png
[07:10] <strk> I've a 1280x1024 capable monitor which all of a sudden stopped being detected by the "Monitor Preferences" widget. It was detected correctly before a reboot. Ideas ?
[07:10] <strk> currently, I can only use it at lower resolution, and worst, at wrong aspect ratio :(
[07:11] <strk> this is a laptop, so the monitor is an external one
[07:11] <gaymish> aeplus: the problem is knowing all the damn directives. I assume that i need to set NameVirtualHost to the url's that it should respond to?
[07:11] <gaymish> aeplus: Can it have multiple NameVirtualHost directives?
[07:12] <PyroBlastGuest> Anyone?
[07:12] <aeplus> you set NameVirtualHost to the socket, such as NameVirtualHost 192.168.1.1:80, then you create VirtualHost entries with ServerName directives... <VirtualHost 192..:80>ServerName mydomain.com</..>
[07:13] <demon> всем прет
[07:13] <demon> кто может помочь?
[07:13] <DJones> !ru | demon
[07:14] <damms005> Pls help with 7zip. My Ubuntu Software Center shows it as installed but I dont see it anywhere and can't even use it
[07:14] <L3top> !info normalize
[07:14] <gaymish> aeplus: awesome thanks! Considering it is Friday, I think I'll just leave this problem until Monday :)
[07:14] <aeplus> yah, let's call it a week
[07:15] <L3top> PyroBlastGuest: check out http://normalize.nongnu.org/
[07:15] <damms005> When I do "man 7zip",  It doesn't even show anything. All I get is "which manual page do you want"
[07:16] <PyroBlastGuest> L3top: Oh my.. That might be what I want. It's real-time, right?
[07:16] <damms005> Please help on how I can use 7zip
[07:16] <L3top> yes PyroBlastGuest
[07:16] <aeplus> there should be a way to list the files that were installed for the package
[07:16] <damms005> !info normalize
[07:17] <Gallomimia> wait, what do you need 7zip for on ubuntu? most of the tools to work with compressed files are ready to go
[07:17] <L3top> wait PyroBlastGuest... I may be wrong on that... I think it normalizes files... sorry... I have used a live filter... I cant remember where.
[07:17] <PyroBlastGuest> L3top: Dammit..
[07:17] <Gallomimia> noworldorder: how are you doing on that problem of yours? let me know in a pm how you're doing if you want
[07:18] <damms005> Gallomimia: I want to use it to extract .exe files  (Babylon dictionary for GoldenDict)
[07:18] <Gallomimia> oh self extracting files.... i see
[07:18] <Gallomimia> did you open a new terminal since you last installed it?
[07:18] <damms005> Gallomimia: So what do I do?
[07:18] <L3top> PyroBlastGuest: take a look at this http://www.miscfits.com/2009/09/normalize-all-your-audio.html
[07:19] <damms005> Gallomimia: Since I last installed 7zip? Yes
[07:20] <PyroBlastGuest> L3top: Well that might just be what I'm looking for. I need to test it, though.
[07:20] <damms005> Gallomimia: But I don't seem to be able to use the 7zip. I can't find it anywhere. How can I use what I don't find
[07:20] <Gallomimia> the program is called 7z
[07:21] <Gallomimia> not 7zip
[07:21] <Zally666> Zipstuf
[07:21] <Gallomimia> so, type which 7z
[07:21] <Gallomimia> and see what it says
[07:21] <superuser> i figure out why no commands would work
[07:21] <damms005> Gallomimia: Thanks so much.
[07:22] <superuser> nick
[07:23] <Zally666> Ya
[07:23] <Guest81913> hi
[07:24] <strk> monitor resolution solved with a reboot (reminds me of windows times!)
[07:24] <whiterose> When installing APC, is there still a bug fix that need to be run?
[07:24] <Zally666> Ello
[07:24] <re-sure-pus> problem solved ;]
[07:24] <Zally666> :)
[07:24] <Gallomimia> re-sure-pus how?
[07:24] <Guest81913> :)
[07:25] <smegzor1> After installing a wireless driver it works until I restart the computer.  After restart the wireless device does not function unless I repeat the install (compiling from a script).  Is there a step that I am missing to permanently add the new driver so that it is active after a restart?
[07:25] <ninstaah> Hi All, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 with vsftpd 2.3.5 installed I configured it to use mysql virtualusers - but can not connect to the server ( vsftpd.conf & vsftpd: http://pastie.org/4090828 ). If i try to FTP I get this "ftp: connect: Connection refused" - What am I doing wrong?
[07:25] <re-sure-pus> i did an upgrade i guess lol but its working now
[07:25] <Gallomimia> smegzor1: can you show some of the script? maybe the interface is not configured on reboot
[07:26] <rob82_pcrs> (just out the blue) i read somewhere that 12.04 TLS had a few floors in security, dont get me wrong this is what i heard
[07:26] <smegzor1> Gallomimia: Sorry I can't.  The computer is not here.  I figured there was a missing step to load the driver.
[07:26] <rob82_pcrs> P.s is it true?
[07:27] <agc93> TLS can be broken given the right access and a very specific situation, but it is not very easy
[07:27] <rob82_pcrs> ohh.
[07:27] <Gallomimia> smegzor1: i am going to suggest that you're going to need to add something in the configs for interface on boot. i've forgotten how to do that :/
[07:27] <re-sure-pus> it wouldent let me burn a cd tho..   so i mounted the iso file then up graded
[07:28] <smegzor1> Gallomimia: thanks.  that gives me something to google for.
[07:28] <Zally666> Mnt proc nd profile stack
[07:28] <damms005_> Gallomimia: 7z ex /dict/Babylon9_setup_dict.....error is...:Error: Incorrect command line
[07:29] <Zally666> Break step
[07:29] <smegzor1> Gallomimia: hmm..  it probably needs to be modprobed?
[07:29] <emanb29> I need some advice with a wifi USB adapter (WUSB45Gv2), does anyone know where to get the driver necessary?
[07:29] <damms005_> Gallomimia: Please help. When I type this:....7z ex /dict/Babylon9_setup_dict.....I get this errors...:Error: Incorrect command line...Please help
[07:30] <re-sure-pus> lesion
[07:30] <Gallomimia> i unfortuantely dont' know anything about 7z but
[07:30] <Gallomimia> uh
[07:30] <Gallomimia> take the e out. the command you want is x not ex
[07:30] <re-sure-pus> i learned something today
[07:30] <MasterOfDisaster> damms005_: isn't it 7z x, not 7z ex?
[07:31] <Gallomimia> damms005_: i looked at this page http://www.howtoadvice.com/7zipHelper
[07:31] <MasterOfDisaster> ninstaah: you verified that port 21 is reachable?
[07:32] <re-sure-pus> no linux commands dont work with windows 7 except "cd"
[07:33] <MasterOfDisaster> re-sure-pus: might want to try powershell :D
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> ive seen bash shelland otehr commands for windows :)
[07:33] <Gallomimia> smegzor1: i wish you luck. i'm really not any good at linux networking or wifi hardware. i have a macbook pro. i turn it on and the wifi says "would you like to connect to ... ?"
[07:33] <strk> wc
[07:33] <ninstaah> MasterOfDisaster, yes - it is fully available.
[07:34] <re-sure-pus> with ubuntu you configure wifi manualy
[07:34] <ninstaah> it hangs on startup
[07:34] <ninstaah> # initctl list | grep vsftpd
[07:34] <ninstaah> vsftpd stop/waiting
[07:35] <damms005_> Gallomimia: I don't find that helpful. It is only compressing files. I need to extract
[07:35] <MasterOfDisaster> ninstaah: look at the logs for clues
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[07:36] <Gallomimia> damms005_: near the bottom it talks about it. man page should help you now. is the man called 7z?
[07:36] <TheLynx> Hi there guys. what's up with the packages? Cannot install any software:an error message pops up.
[07:36] <ninstaah> MasterOfDisaster, no /var/log/vsftpd.log - is there another log I could see?
[07:36] <rob82_pcrs> you arnt using a proxy by chance
[07:36] <TheLynx> it says 'the installation will require smth. from untrusted..
[07:36] <Gallomimia> TheLynx: working fine for me.... maybe you have a sources issue?
[07:36] <Gallomimia> !sources > TheLynx
[07:37] <Gallomimia> how does that bot work??
[07:37] <rob82_pcrs> ii know software packages wont work if u use a proxy mine failed once
[07:37] <MasterOfDisaster> ninstaah: /var/log/syslog
[07:37] <damms005_> Gallomimia: Yes thanks I found it.  The problem is even complicated now. I don't see any .blg files in the achive..(GoldenDict official page says the achive consists .blg file which is the dictionary file I am looking for)
[07:37] <Gallomimia> good luck man
[07:37] <smegzor1> Gallomimia: Found a solution online.  It will definitely work, just got to return to the site to finalise the install.
[07:38] <Gallomimia> sweet
[07:38] <Gallomimia> and with that, it will be time for rice.
[07:38] <ninstaah> MasterOfDisaster, that returns this to me; init: "vsftpd respawning too fast, stopped"
[07:38] <damms005_> PLS HELP WITH GOLDENDICT DICTIONARY. NO .blg files in Babylon9
[07:40] <MasterOfDisaster> ninstaah: stop the service, pass the config file to the binary on the command line and see if it chokes on it
[07:40] <MasterOfDisaster> man vsftpd: syslog_enable, log_ftp_protocol should be interesting for debugging
[07:41] <gulimon> is there a irc channel for talking t
[07:42] <gulimon> dirty
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> #playinginthemud
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> !alis | gulimon
[07:43] <Zally666> Dr willis care to help me with my tuner tonight?
[07:43] <TheLynx> .seen rantic
[07:44] <ninstaah> MasterOfDisaster, I dont know why I should stop a service that cant start - but how do I pass it to binary in command line (doing everything over ssh)?
[07:44] <Zally666> Only picture when scanning
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> Zally666:  last tv tuner i used was 3+ yrs ago. and it was plug and it worked.
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> and that was when i was using  MythTV
[07:45] <MasterOfDisaster> ninstaah: as root: vsftpd /path/to/config/file/vsftpd.conf
[07:46] <Zally666> Tvtime
[07:46] <ninstaah> ok thx
[07:46] <Zally666> But its a dmesg modprobe issue
[07:49] <satya-ktree> Hllo
[07:49] <satya-ktree> Hello
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> hi
[07:50] <satya-ktree> I need t create ftp user with multiple directory access, is this possible?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> i imagine it is..
[07:50] <miss_ubuntu_> Question: is there any software in ubuntu , similar to gmail tasks ? gmail tasks rock but i need offline app
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> but i only use ssh/sftp these days.
[07:50] <pentagonpie> Ubuntu 11.10, with KDE, trying to change login screen but nothing changes.
[07:51] <ninstaah> MasterOfDisaster; 500 OOPS: bad bool value in config file for: guest_enable (in my conf it is: guest_enable=YES)
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> pentagonpie:  change what about it  how are you changeing it?
[07:51] <satya-ktree> Actually, i prefer to give ftp access to our clients
[07:52] <pentagonpie> Dr_Willis, system settings - login screen
[07:53] <TheLynx> Is there a substitute  for Rocket Dock on ubuntu?
[07:54] <tevs_kapoaN> Try Docky
[07:54] <MasterOfDisaster> ninstaah: try removing the line
[07:54] <pentagonpie> Dr_Willis, The default theme for the login screen doesn't even appear in the option in system settings
[07:55] <tevs_kapoaN> TheLynx: There's Cairo dock, Avant Window Navigator, Plank...
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> !dock
[07:55] <TheLynx> wtf? "Requires installation of untrusted packages"
[07:55] <TheLynx> oh
[07:55] <cscsaba> how can i set scripts for users and root as well ? i have to always change back and forth and scripts would be useful on either sides
[07:55] <cscsaba> ups sorry, so hello
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> cscsaba:  scripts to do what?
[07:56] <tevs_kapoaN> TheLynx: what are you trying to install?
[07:56] <ninstaah> MasterOfDisaster, I think I am making progress, thank you so far - you got my troubleshooting start.
[07:56] <TheLynx> Docky
[07:56] <tevs_kapoaN> try to install it using sudo
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> i think theres been some server/key issues lately.
[07:57] <cscsaba> sorry, ff() { find -name $1 ...} and for aliases
[07:57] <tevs_kapoaN> $ sudo apt-get install docky
[07:57] <MasterOfDisaster> ninstaah: you're welcome
[07:57] <Blue1> Dr_Willis: if you run skype on a 64 bit system, skip v 4.0 if you need video.
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> cscsaba:  how ae you switching to root?   if you do it the right way. you keep your users alias's
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Blue1:  i dont do skype any  more
[07:57] <Blue1> su -
[07:57] <MasterOfDisaster> cscsaba: there are system-wide config files for your favourite shell...
[07:57] <Blue1> Dr_Willis: smart man!
[07:58] <MasterOfDisaster> cscsaba: e.g.: /etc/bashrc
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> su -    is not the right way to switch to root on ubuntu
[07:58] <TheLynx> it works buddy! TY:)
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> sudo -s or sudo -i
[07:58] <Blue1> Dr_Willis: ahh
[07:58] <tevs_kapoaN> No problem. Give Avant Window Navigator a try as well.
[07:58] <cscsaba> Dr_Willis, MasterOfDisaster : so im new to linux
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> you shouldnt be needint to switch  to root a lot once you got things setuop either. ;)
[07:59] <cscsaba> Dr_Willis, MasterOfDisaster : i noticed that i cant use my aliasses when i root
[07:59] <cscsaba> and back
[07:59] <Brainwright> Having a monster of a time trying to install ubuntu on an old laptop with no cd drive and can't use usb to boot.  As soon as I log in, it freezes completely.  Error messages through the many ways I've tried installing this suggest that I may need PAE support, which seems to have recently been removed from Ubuntu.
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> cscsaba:  and how are you switching to root?
[07:59] <ninstaah> Got it working now MasterOfDisaster, Thank you so much - Have a nice day!
[07:59] <cscsaba> Dr_Willis: with su
[07:59] <meteohr> hey guys, im a new ubuntu user and got no sound at all - im working on fixing this problem for some time now and just can't get it done, can anybody help me?
[07:59] <MasterOfDisaster> ninstaah: wondeful :D
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> cscsaba:  and as i said earlier.. 'su' is not the right way to switch to root...
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> !sudo | cscsaba
[08:00] <tevs_kapoaN> meteohr: what computer are you on?
[08:00] <tevs_kapoaN> Is it a laptop?
[08:00] <wdp> Brainwright, pae should only be needed (i might be wrong though) if you want to use more than 4 GB of RAM
[08:01] <wdp> Brainwright, and, there still should be a -pae kernel.
[08:01] <Brainwright> All I know is that I tried installing it one way, and I got an error saying that I required a PAE kernel.
[08:01] <cscsaba> but su ask my password and i get root prompt
[08:01] <cscsaba> so then i root
[08:01] <cscsaba> i guess
[08:01] <rob82_pcrs> its built into the cpu
[08:01] <meteohr> tevx_kapoaN: Samsung Q45 Notebook, i got a hda intel soundchip with a lsi id 1040 codec and i even reported this bug on launchpad: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/199701
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> cscsaba:  su to root is by default disabled on ubuntu.. no idea how you eneabled it.. learn to use 'sudo'
[08:01] <qowaz> \q
[08:01] <rob82_pcrs> incomoatble iv had the same thing
[08:01] <rob82_pcrs> incompatble iv had the same thing
[08:02] <tevs_kapoaN> meteohr: do you have Windows installed on it as well?
[08:02] <meteohr> i also tried playing around with the  alsa-base.conf adding different lines
[08:02] <meteohr> nope
[08:02] <Brainwright> Then I just don't know what to say.  The damned thing freezes.
[08:02] <cscsaba> Dr_Willis: it is on Suse but i know that this irc is very helplful thats why im asking here
[08:02] <wdp> Brainwright, linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic-pae  <- that kernel i use.
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> cscsaba:  suse is niot ubuntu.. forget about su on ubuntu. use sudo..........
[08:03] <cscsaba> Dr_Willis: ok
[08:03] <meteohr> tevs_kapoaN: why should i border installing windows?
[08:03] <Brainwright> wdp, where should I look to find that kernel, and how would I use it?
[08:03] <rob82_pcrs> -pae i had the same thing using Meego
[08:03] <cscsaba> Dr_Willis: so i have to chek its man pages
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> !pae
[08:03] <rob82_pcrs> wouldn let me install
[08:03] <tevs_kapoaN> meteohr: when you go to System Settings > Sound, which device is selected under Output?
[08:04] <wdp> Brainwright, apt-cache search linux-image | grep pae    <- will list pae kernels. apt-get install linux-image....-pae will install one of them.
[08:04] <meteohr> dummy-output, wait i can post a screenshot
[08:04] <rob82_pcrs> if you have the -pae on the processor
[08:04] <tevs_kapoaN> meteohr: no reason at all, I asked that because I have windows and I have sound problems when I use Windows and log on to Linux afterwards.
[08:04] <Brainwright> Got it, thanks.
[08:04] <wdp> Brainwright, and check if grep "pae" /proc/cpuinfo produces output
[08:04] <meteohr> http://www.abload.de/img/bildschirmfotovom2012pbmg3.png
[08:05] <cscsaba> thanks guys
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> tevs_kapoaN:  ive had some older weird hardware that would not work right if i booted to windows then 'rebooted' to linux. but if i powereed down. then booted straight to linux. it would work.. the Devices mustg have had some odd Plug and Play  quirks
[08:05] <Brainwright> I can't.  I'm a fresh user, and I don't have an Ubuntu system up and running.
[08:05] <wdp> Brainwright, that'll work in any linux.
[08:06] <rob82_pcrs> Dr_willis ''same''
[08:06] <satya-ktree> Is it possible to create a ftp user with access to multiple directories?
[08:06] <rob82_pcrs> linux just seems to work like a charm
[08:06] <Brainwright> Well, I don't have any Linux system up and running, which is why I was doing this in the first place.  I know, it's painful how hard I'm trying.
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> i cant evven rember what the devices were.. or how i figured out that trick. It may have been an old ceative sound card
[08:06] <tevs_kapoaN> Dr_Willis: I think I had the same thing. After I use Windows, there will be no sound on Ubuntu, until I play something, like Youtube and suspend my computer. After waking up it would work.
[08:07] <noworldorder> I have been trying to figure out how to grant a user access to only one folder.  I think I am close.  The user is now able to download any file from any directoy but only upload to the directory I assidned.  I desire that files can be only uploaded and downloaded from a particlular folder.
[08:07] <noworldorder> THis is what I did
[08:07] <noworldorder> [root@go ~]# chown axxarecord /var/spool/asterisk/monitorDONE/MP3
[08:07] <noworldorder> [root@go ~]# chown -R axxarecord /var/spool/asterisk/monitorDONE/MP3 #recursive
[08:07] <rob82_pcrs> try an install over the network (using the network) when prompted
[08:07] <FloodBot1> noworldorder: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:07] <tevs_kapoaN> meteohr: hummm... You got me on this.
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> !pastebin | noworldorder
[08:07] <meteohr> thats what i heard every time asking for help :) so im used to it
[08:08] <noworldorder> ok
[08:08] <tevs_kapoaN> :)
[08:08] <Brainwright> Thanks for the help, folks!
[08:08] <rob82_pcrs> naughty naughty
[08:08] <tevs_kapoaN> meteohr: maybe this post thread will help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1475185
[08:09] <meteohr> thanks, i'll try this, and if it doesnt work im gonna install windows7 :/
[08:09] <tevs_kapoaN> Have you tried reinstalling ubuntu?
[08:09] <rob82_pcrs> ii use to be scared at 1 time, doin it over network, but iv had my confidence build over the last few years and have learnt to trust the servers, thats all it is that does it
[08:10] <gits1225> How to fix:
[08:10] <gits1225> error while loading shared libraries: libpng15.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:11] <gits1225> I am trying to install emacs 24.1 on ubuntu 12.04
[08:11] <rob82_pcrs> reinstll libpng
[08:11] <schnuffle1> gits1225: which version of libpng is installed?
[08:11] <meteohr> tevs_kapoaN: no, why?
[08:12] <rob82_pcrs> sounds like the setup didn go right
[08:12] <tevs_kapoaN> Maybe some config item is messed up in your installation. I'd try reinstalling ubuntu before going to Windows
[08:12] <tevs_kapoaN> But I've found this thread claiming to have solved your problem
[08:12] <tevs_kapoaN> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[08:12] <rob82_pcrs> stay away from win, pointless, use wine
[08:12] <tevs_kapoaN> Sorry, the thread is here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/dummy-output-lost-sound-839789/
[08:14] <noworldorder> pastebin is down it seems http://codepad.org/tbiIxEAe
[08:14] <gits1225> schnuffle1: libpng 1.5.11
[08:14] <meteohr> ok im gonna go through it tevs_kapoaN
[08:15] <sadasdasdas> Does Ubuntu support brtfs fairly well? I just downloaded the updates and I think it's been like 40 minutes and it's still installing them on brtfs.
[08:15] <schnuffle1> gits1225:  you can try to set a symlink if the version you have installed is compatibel
[08:16] <meteohr> tevs>_kapoaN: im not sure if oss supports my soundchip
[08:16] <schnuffle1> gits1225:  for example: ln -s /lib/libpng12.so.0 /lib/libpng12.so.0.44.0
[08:16] <rob82_pcrs> about before that -pae , is in the same category as -cmov,
[08:17] <sadasdasdas> Or does it usually take that long?
[08:17] <tevs_kapoaN> Yeah, now I'm going through it as well. I see it's a better idea not to try to install OSS
[08:17] <meteohr> ok
[08:17] <meteohr> im gonna reinstall ubuntu
[08:17] <meteohr> how do i do this?
[08:18] <linuxdroid> meteohr,  reboot ur system with the live cd..!!!
[08:18] <tevs_kapoaN> meteohr: just bear with me for a few minutes, I'll get back to you
[08:18] <burg> hello. i am being told that one of my ubuntu servers floods the network (sends too many data packets somewhere, making the router to fail and stop the internet connection) -- how can i check if this is really what is happening?
[08:18] <gits1225> schnuffle1: I think something went wrong when I installed libpng. Checking...
[08:18] <rob82_pcrs> they are the ii mean if you get Unable to install u get them errors -pae and /or -cmov iv had them both
[08:18] <rob82_pcrs> cpu incompatibility with the OS
[08:18] <schnuffle1> gits1225: Did you install it from repository or manually?
[08:18] <tevs_kapoaN> meteohr: what's yoru output of $ cat /proc/asound/cards
[08:19] <gits1225> schnuffle1: I didn't find it in repository. Installed manually.
[08:19] <schnuffle1> gits1225:  12.04?
[08:20] <gits1225> schnuffle1: yes.
[08:20] <meteohr> tevs>_kapoaN: $: command not found
[08:20] <rob82_pcrs> try version below the 1 you tried
[08:20] <ax562> hello
[08:21] <schnuffle1> gits1225:  I would create a symlink from the libpng12 to the version you need and try if it works
[08:21] <tevs_kapoaN> meteohr: you should type it without the $ sign. Just type cat /rpoc/asound/cards
[08:21] <gits1225> schnuffle1: kk
[08:21] <tevs_kapoaN> $ is only symbolizing beginning of a command.
[08:22] <meteohr> cat: /proc/asound/cards: File or Directory not found
[08:22] <tevs_kapoaN> Sweet :)
[08:22] <tevs_kapoaN> How about cat /proc/asound/devices
[08:22] <bairui> bah... i don't believe it. :-( I had to reinstall u1204 because of an imminent HD failure. I got mpd working beautifully alongside other sound apps in the prior install (2 days ago!) but can't for the life of me get it to cooperate now. I either get no mpd sound or only mpd sound. bairui sad.
[08:25] <tevs_kapoaN> meteohr: are you still there?
[08:26] <meteohr> tevs>_kapoaN: also not found
[08:26] <tevs_kapoaN> Okay, then I might have a solution for you.
[08:26] <tevs_kapoaN> Try going through this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1316634
[08:26] <meteohr> asound folder does not exist
[08:27] <tevs_kapoaN> It's a bit long, but many people claim to have resolved their problem there.
[08:27] <meteohr> wait wait
[08:27] <meteohr> i just remember
[08:27] <tevs_kapoaN> Yes?
[08:28] <meteohr> a few min ago i think i did $ sudo alsa unload
[08:28] <meteohr> does this affect asound/cards or devices
[08:28] <tevs_kapoaN> To be honest, I'm not sure.
[08:28] <tevs_kapoaN> Perhaps it does.
[08:29] <rob82_pcrs> try reloading it
[08:29] <meteohr> how?
[08:29] <rob82_pcrs> sudo alsa reload
[08:29] <tevs_kapoaN> :)
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> logical shell is logical
[08:30] <meteohr> ok still nothing found
[08:30] <vidyut> Is there a way to see what ports are open in my computer and what applications are running on them? I also want to know how to start and stop applications from running. Can anbody help me with this?
[08:30] <rob82_pcrs> dang
[08:30] <rob82_pcrs> netstat sumthing
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> vidyut:  you mean 'services' ?
[08:30] <tevs_kapoaN> Well then, why don't you take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1316634
[08:30] <rob82_pcrs> netstat -a or -s or -v
[08:30] <rob82_pcrs> sumthing like that
[08:30] <tevs_kapoaN> The guy had the same problem like you and he says he solved it.
[08:31] <vidyut> Dr_Willis: apps running on ports
[08:31] <rob82_pcrs> sik
[08:31] <meteohr> ok
[08:31] <rob82_pcrs> or better get nmap
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> vidyut:  normally theres no listening services by default.   starting and stopping 'applications' is differnt then 'services'
[08:31] <rob82_pcrs> at command line
[08:31] <tevs_kapoaN> Let us know if you make any progress.
[08:31] <rob82_pcrs> sudo apt-get install nmap
[08:32] <rob82_pcrs> nmap -a -V 192.168.0.1/24 etc
[08:32] <rob82_pcrs> orr whatever ur ip is
[08:32] <vidyut> Dr_Willis: I want to know the command to see what ports are open in my computer and what applications are running on them
[08:32] <rob82_pcrs> nmap -a -V 192.168.0.1/24
[08:32] <rob82_pcrs> vidyut: nmap -a -V 192.168.0.1/24
[08:32] <rob82_pcrs> vidyut: get nmap
[08:33] <daze> is there a way to append the Nautilus 'move to'/'copy to' menu? Would be cool for mounted external drives to appear there, just like in Windows :)
[08:33] <ezbbunk> why can't he use netstat?
[08:33] <rob82_pcrs> ii mentioned that
[08:33] <rob82_pcrs> nmaps better
[08:33] <rob82_pcrs> shows more verbosely
[08:33] <ezbbunk> nmap is excessive
[08:33] <rob82_pcrs> ye[
[08:33] <vidyut> rob82_pcrs: and how to start and stop an apps running on a port?
[08:34] <rob82_pcrs> ii use nmap in my sleep
[08:34] <tenX> ezbbunk: cause it doesnt show firewall impact
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> daze:  nautilus has  a scripting feaature. but not sure if it can change 'on the fly' with device insertion
[08:34] <tevs_kapoaN> HA HA HA!
[08:34] <rob82_pcrs> uninstall them
[08:34] <rob82_pcrs> heh
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> vidyut:  kill the app/close it..
[08:34] <meteohr> rebooting
[08:34] <daze> yeah, I found out about scripts, but they are put into 'scripts' menu. This one should require a plugin.. still searching for one :/
[08:34] <rob82_pcrs> butt you need to know what app to port
[08:34] <bairui> awesome... fixed it. i thought i'd tried the   paprefs, Network access   path but i was obviously not holding the sacred blade to the sacrificial lamb's throat in quite the right way. bairui happy again. \o/
[08:35] <ezbbunk> tenX: neither does nmap actually -- assuming that we're scanning lo and lo is on quick pass
[08:35] <mbutubuntu> hey guys, I'd like to know why ffmpeg -i /path/to/videoFile.mp4 | grep foo doesn't grep anythink but prints out all the ffmpeg output... o.0
[08:35] <mbutubuntu> do you know why?
[08:35] <vidyut> ok thanks Dr_Willis rob82_pcrs
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> mbutubuntu:  perhaps its printing to stderr instead of stdout
[08:35] <rob82_pcrs> for ports use : nmap -v -A (target address) P.S. i dont like smart aliks
[08:36] <ezbbunk> mbutubuntu: try 2>&1
[08:36] <mbutubuntu> Dr_Willis, mmh, maybe
[08:36] <tenX> ezbbunk: my idea was to scan externally but you could always restrict access on lo via iptables
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> no idea why it would be using stedrr
[08:36] <ezbbunk> tenX: ja, as I said, I was assuming lo was on quick pass
[08:36] <rob82_pcrs> why externally not all ports a re forwarded u wont get shit on the scan
[08:36] <mbutubuntu> Dr_Willis, ezbbunk you're right... it prints to STDERR
[08:36] <rob82_pcrs> you scan internally
[08:37] <mbutubuntu> why?!
[08:37] <rob82_pcrs> t..
[08:37] <solid91> hi everibody, my system is frequently crashing, how can i find what's wrong with it?
[08:37] <rob82_pcrs> why externally not all ports a re forwarded u wont get shit on the scan
[08:37] <ezbbunk> rob82_pcrs: that is assuming that all listeners are bound to lo or IN{6,}ADDR_ANY
[08:37] <rob82_pcrs> that is correct
[08:37] <tenX> ezbbunk: depends on the setup. externally was basically about scanning from another system, maybe within the same subnet
[08:37] <schnuffle1> solid91: check the syslog file in /var/log for errors
[08:37] <rob82_pcrs> that is correct
[08:37] <rob82_pcrs> that sound good to
[08:37] <sddhrthrt> solid91: try to read the logs
[08:37] <ezbbunk> tenX: ja - but imho, to just find which services are listening on which interface / node / file
[08:38] <meteohr> hi
[08:38] <tenX> ezbbunk: use both :)
[08:38] <rob82_pcrs> is their a Event Viewer app on linuz or similar
[08:38] <meteohr> cat /proc/asound/cards  0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel                       HDA Intel at 0xf0500000 irq 45
[08:38] <sddhrthrt> solid91: pastebin the logs during oand just before the crashess - that might help.
[08:38] <meteohr> so i remember that this worked for some time
[08:38] <rob82_pcrs> iif theres crashes try dpkg reboot and go into recovery mode
[08:39] <solid91> @sddhrthrt where can i paste the log?
[08:39] <tevs_kapoaN> meteohr: but you still have dummy-ausgabe in your Sound Settings?
[08:39] <meteohr> yes
[08:39] <rob82_pcrs> .txt viewer
[08:40] <meteohr> maybe my soundcard ist just broken :/
[08:40] <rurufufuss> Hi, I've been having erratic scroll wheel problem, and it doesn't seem to be the mice, has there been problems like this previously reported?
[08:40] <tenX> ezbbunk: and if you nmap locally to the systems device and dont allow lo access generally you should get the same results as from external
[08:40] <rurufufuss> on 10.04 here
[08:40] <rob82_pcrs> possibly but if it works on linuz, its definetly windows issues
[08:40] <tevs_kapoaN> meteohr: have you looked at other replies in that thread?
[08:41] <rob82_pcrs> provided you a port forwarding all 65000 ports
[08:41] <tevs_kapoaN> Some people report their own solutions, like this
[08:41] <tevs_kapoaN> I followed all your steps and my card shows up when running cat /proc/asound/cards, but I still had a dummy output in the gnome sound preferences. But after editing /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and adding options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1 model=asus-v1s it finally worked!!! Thanks so much!
[08:41] <tevs_kapoaN> Of course, pay attention that he's writing about ASUS, not Samsung.
[08:41] <vidyut> and how to start a application on a particular port?
[08:42] <meteohr> yes, but i cant tell which one i should choose out of those: http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt
[08:42] <tevs_kapoaN> Yeah, that is a bit tricky.
[08:42] <rob82_pcrs> you can change target ports on your router
[08:42] <solid91> where can i past my sylog for checking what my crashes are due to?
[08:42] <rob82_pcrs> from 80 to 81 e.g.,
[08:42] <rob82_pcrs> you dont realy have to change them on ur machine
[08:43] <schnuffle1> !paste | solid91
[08:43] <tevs_kapoaN> meteohr: you said you have a Samsung, right?
[08:43] <meteohr> yes
[08:43] <tevs_kapoaN> What is the exact model?
[08:43] <meteohr> 45
[08:43] <meteohr> q45
[08:43] <tevs_kapoaN> Thanks
[08:43] <grandrew> hi all! Does anybody know how do ubuntu mouse settings relate to real mouse CPI ? I want to know where is 1:1 on that Slow/Fast slider?
[08:43] <tevs_kapoaN> just a minute please.
[08:44] <rob82_pcrs> right at beginning or dead center in the middle
[08:44] <rob82_pcrs> 1:1 should be default
[08:45] <solid91> @schnuffle1 ok this is my sylog http://paste.ubuntu.com/1042088/
[08:46] <yharrow> hey guys
[08:46] <yharrow> anyone here?
[08:46] <rob82_pcrs> yUp
[08:46] <Zally666> Hi
[08:46] <yharrow> hey
[08:46] <rob82_pcrs> sUp
[08:46] <rob82_pcrs> sUo
[08:46] <rob82_pcrs> sUop
[08:46] <tevs_kapoaN> meteohr: sorry. Can't find anything else useful about this :(
[08:46] <rob82_pcrs> Soup?
[08:46] <yharrow> ok so i plugged my laptop into a HDMI TV but now my microsoft Lifechat doesnt work
[08:46] <meteohr> ok ok
[08:46] <yharrow> like when i click lifechat in sound
[08:46] <meteohr> i think ill stop trying
[08:47] <yharrow> the TV starts playing the sound
[08:47] <tevs_kapoaN> Sorry.
[08:47] <meteohr> no problem, thanks for your help
[08:47] <schnuffle1> solid91: Just pasting you syslog is a not enough. What crashes, when does it crash, is it just spontaneous or can it be reproduced?
[08:47] <tevs_kapoaN> If you wish to keep ubuntu, try opening a topic on Ubuntu Forum
[08:47] <yharrow> lifechat = microsoft usb headphones
[08:47] <mbutubuntu> ezbbunk, I've redirected the stderr output to a variable but now echo $VAR | grep foo doesn't work again...!
[08:47] <tevs_kapoaN> I'm sure people more skillful than me will look into it.
[08:48] <yharrow> has anyone heard of my issue before
[08:48] <rob82_pcrs> meteohr: um bushed. ... .
[08:48] <rob82_pcrs> meteohr: um bushed.
[08:48] <rob82_pcrs> meteohr: um bushed
[08:48] <meteohr> ?
[08:48] <rob82_pcrs> : um bushed
[08:48] <rob82_pcrs> um bushed
[08:48] <rob82_pcrs> /
[08:48] <llutz_> rob82_pcrs: pls stop that
[08:48] <rob82_pcrs> ..
[08:48] <tevs_kapoaN> Hahah
[08:48] <yharrow> i searched the forums but i couldnt find anything
[08:48] <rob82_pcrs> sorry
[08:48] <rob82_pcrs> oopz
[08:49] <yharrow> nobody knows anything about sound?
[08:49] <rob82_pcrs> damn scroller spoofed up
[08:49] <solid91> @<schnuffle1>  ok so, it was spontaneous, not reproducible. When it crash only my mouse works, anithing else.
[08:49] <rob82_pcrs> llutz_ sorry if i hurt ur feelings
[08:49] <llutz_> !ot | rob82_pcrs
[08:49] <meteohr> bye
[08:50] <rob82_pcrs> your point is
[08:50] <meteohr> thank you very much tevs_kapoan
[08:50] <tol> yharrow: HDMI automatically transmits the sound to the tv, so try to switch the sound output
[08:50] <schnuffle1> solid91: my guess is problems with Compiz
[08:50] <rob82_pcrs> ii allways follow the rules, butska
[08:51] <rob82_pcrs> butska stands for pal, mate whichever you prefer
[08:51] <rob82_pcrs> ii am king  of my domain
[08:52] <yharrow> tol I already tried but it wouldnt let me
[08:52] <ynotworking> any upstart wizards?
[08:52] <yharrow> i am scratching my brain here tol
[08:52] <tol> yharrow: what have you tried and what was the output
[08:52] <yharrow> when i click on the lifechat usb headphones option it still outputs hdmi
[08:52] <rob82_pcrs> compiz fusion>
[08:53] <rob82_pcrs> compiz fusion?
[08:53] <yharrow> i used sound settings to select Lifechat lx-300 but the modes available were HDMI
[08:53] <yharrow> and HDMI 5.1
[08:53] <yharrow> so basically there were too entries for HDMI
[08:53] <yharrow> the HDMI
[08:53] <yharrow> and then the headphones
[08:53] <belgianguy> yuck, just updated and had to reboot, but now I get dropped into console
[08:53] <yharrow> that actually output to HDMI
[08:53] <belgianguy> LightDM fails
[08:54] <rob82_pcrs> try using HDPI
[08:54] <solid91> @@<schnuffle1  ...mmm so what can i do?
[08:54] <belgianguy> any idea where I could look for a log?
[08:54] <yharrow> tol any ideas?
[08:54] <CokeAddict> !java
[08:54] <llutz_> belgianguy: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:54] <yharrow> use enlightenment if u want to be hipster leet
[08:54] <schnuffle1> solid91: just checking. its in your post line 2441 where the intel 915 chip fails
[08:54] <belgianguy> llutz_: thanks, could it have to do with fglrx?
[08:54] <tol> yharrow: have you tried it with the alsamixer
[08:55] <yharrow> no i have not
[08:55] <rob82_pcrs> wait theres a kit in software packages,,checking
[08:55] <llutz_> belgianguy: idk, from what i read here, it could
[08:55] <yharrow> i dont think so
[08:55] <yharrow> let me try
[08:55] <schnuffle1> solid91:  remove compiz helps
[08:56] <belgianguy> k, brb, thanks for the info
[08:56] <rob82_pcrs> Yup
[08:56] <schnuffle1> solid91:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1739646
[08:57] <rob82_pcrs> or uubuntu software centre (corrction)
[08:57] <yharrow> tol I've only used alsamixer before to change volume. how to i activate lifechat
[08:57] <solid91> @@<schnuffle1 so i should install that packages?
[08:58] <rob82_pcrs> yeah openjava jdk
[08:58] <yharrow> tol how do i make lifechat the active output
[08:58] <solid91> @<schnuffle1 or remove compiz?
[08:58] <vidyut> I have a web application written in php. How to access and administer the MySQL database from the web application?
[08:59] <rob82_pcrs> see what pport its on
[08:59] <schnuffle1> solid91: if you don't Compiz I would go that route
[08:59] <schnuffle1> need
[08:59] <nicekiwi> how do I tell if im running Nvidia or Nouveau drivers in KDE?
[08:59] <solid91> @<schnuffle1 ok thanx man!
[08:59] <rob82_pcrs> vidyut: see what pport its on
[08:59] <yharrow> tol u still here?
[09:00] <stuk_gen> hi all :)
[09:00] <stuk_gen> what package is need for GL/gl.h ?
[09:00] <vidyut> and then ?
[09:00] <schnuffle1> solid91: what kernel version are you running
[09:00] <sacarlson> nicekiwi: sudo lshw; will show your hardware and the drivers each part uses
[09:00] <yharrow> anybody here know anythinga bout sound
[09:00] <solid91> @<schnuffle1 12.04
[09:00] <yharrow> @tol you still here man?
[09:00] <llutz_> !find GL/gl.h        | stuk_gen
[09:01] <tol> yharrow: yes, still here. i thought you could change the output in alsa. but im at work and dont have an working alsa here
[09:01] <schnuffle1> solid91:  paste uname -a :)
[09:01] <yharrow> im pressing random stuff
[09:01] <yharrow> hoping it fixes sound
[09:01] <rob82_pcrs> yharrow: didn that forum help ya, that whats -ee gave ya
[09:01] <yharrow> i just activated lasaucm
[09:01] <yharrow> whatever that does
[09:01] <yharrow> and installing random alsa tools
[09:02] <rob82_pcrs> hahah
[09:02] <yharrow> alsaucm*
[09:02] <solid91> @<schnuffle1 sorry =)      3.2.0-25-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 23 20:30:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:02] <yharrow> i hope one of these tools will make it work
[09:02] <nicekiwi> OMG OMG OMG OMG... running Team Fortress 2 with a decent FPS on the Nouveau graphics driver!!! :D *dreams have come true*
[09:02] <tol> yharrow: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/41858/shortcut-to-switch-between-analog-stereo-output-hdmi-audio-output
[09:02] <LordDeath> is it possible to redirect the terminal output direclty into http://paste.ubuntu.com/ ??
[09:02] <schnuffle1> LordDeath: use pastebinit
[09:02] <DJones> !pastebinit | LordDeath
[09:03] <LordDeath> thx guys
[09:03] <tenX> nicekiwi: 3d acceleration for nouveau? never tried it is it working?
[09:03] <miss_ubuntu_>  
[09:03] <miss_ubuntu_> Question: is there any software in ubuntu , similar to gmail tasks ? gmail tasks rock but i need offline app ?
[09:03] <tenX> nicekiwi: depends on the card, doesnt it?
[09:04] <yharrow> tol no because selecting the lifechat channel selects the HDMI
[09:04] <yharrow> its a bugged entry
[09:04] <nicekiwi> tenX: it appears to be, the game insent accepting navagation from my mouse, but i can shoot, run move and kill ppl quite smoothly! xD so i guess it is. Its never been this good before Nouveau went stable
[09:04] <tenX> nicekiwi: what card is that?
[09:04] <yharrow> it has the lifechat name but activates HDMI
[09:04] <nicekiwi> tenX: 9600GT 1GB DDR3, released in 2008.
[09:04] <rob82_pcrs> yharrow:go to themes and tweaks
[09:04] <tol> yharrow: does this usb-thing has its own soundcard?
[09:05] <tenX> nicekiwi: okay that is pretty old
[09:05] <yharrow> i have no idea
[09:05] <nicekiwi> tenX: yeah :P
[09:05] <yharrow> but maybe
[09:05] <yharrow> its a headphones
[09:05] <tenX> nicekiwi: checked out the support list not too long ago
[09:05] <yharrow> i cant see how it does
[09:05] <rob82_pcrs> yharrow:go to themes and tweaks, there a package called "additional driver'
[09:05] <rob82_pcrs> yharrow:go to themes and tweaks, there a package called "additional drivers''
[09:05] <tenX> nicekiwi: and found only few cards supported for 3d
[09:06] <rob82_pcrs> but theres another...proding
[09:06] <CokeAddict> how do I know what version of netbeans Ubuntu has in the repo?
[09:06] <CokeAddict> !netbeans
[09:06] <CokeAddict> !package netbeans
[09:06] <nicekiwi> tenX: oooh i have mouse input now xD, only some cards maybe "offically" supported, dosnt mean others wont work though.
[09:06] <yharrow> its already installed
[09:06] <rob82_pcrs> t,,
[09:06] <rob82_pcrs> oopz
[09:07] <tenX> nicekiwi: hope they keep making progress, glad it runs at all for now
[09:07] <nicekiwi> tenX: yeah, major improvments :) im loving it
[09:08] <tenX> nicekiwi: i'm on gentoo hardened which makes it impossible to use the proprietary drivers
[09:08] <nicekiwi> tenX: good luck :)
[09:08] <tol> yharrow: i think the lifechat has its own soundcard so it may be a driver issue
[09:08] <yharrow> tol its already installed
[09:08] <tenX> nicekiwi: also those drivers where the only reason to crash my system on the machine before
[09:08] <yharrow> and if it was a driver issue why would the name show up and be recognized
[09:08] <yharrow> it feels more like some kind of conflict
[09:09] <nicekiwi> tenX: truuuu
[09:09] <yharrow> but i cant verify it cuz my HDMI output is my monitor
[09:09] <tol> yharrow: have you tried to plug the headphones in after connecting the HDMI?
[09:09] <tenX> nicekiwi: have you heard about steam being ported to linux?
[09:09] <yharrow> the problem is that the "mode" options for the device are HDMI
[09:10] <yharrow> so somehow
[09:10] <yharrow> the device LIfechat is inheriting its modes from HDMI
[09:10] <z999> hello, I'm trying to install myunity (on 12.04) and I can't find it in the software center or using apt-get. How can I get it?
[09:10] <fishcooker> anyone with condor + globus?
[09:11] <nicekiwi> tenX: yes!! :D and being released before the end of THIS year!!! :D :D heck yes!
[09:11] <tenX> nicekiwi: and how about the performance with your nouveau drivers?
[09:11] <nicekiwi> tenX: am trying a real server (was in practice mode before) with 1600x900 res now. mid graphics
[09:11] <tol> yharrow: hmhm, i have no idea, sorry
[09:12] <nicekiwi> tenX: dam.. wine crashed
[09:13] <rob82_pcrs> yharrow:you can try: ubuntu-restricted-extras package in "system"
[09:13] <tenX> nicekiwi: well the graphic performance shouldnt depend on wether you play online or not
[09:13] <sacarlson> fishcooker: doing some number crunching?
[09:13] <yharrow> i already have it
[09:13] <yharrow> and listen to this
[09:13] <tenX> nicekiwi: wine i dont know about
[09:13] <nicekiwi> tenX: i know :P but still..
[09:13] <rob82_pcrs> are u sure you have this 1
[09:13] <yharrow> the volume control buttons AND microphone on the headset work fine
[09:13] <rob82_pcrs> though
[09:14] <yharrow> and it shows up in the output list
[09:14] <yharrow> just when i click it as an output
[09:14] <yharrow> it doesnt do so
[09:14] <rob82_pcrs> might be a pluggin thing
[09:14] <yharrow> plugin thing?
[09:14] <rob82_pcrs> output plugin
[09:15] <rob82_pcrs> or switch
[09:15] <tenX> nicekiwi: whatever i've tried with wine hasnt really worked.
[09:15] <rob82_pcrs> sorry i cant help much
[09:15] <rob82_pcrs> more
[09:15] <dontknow> can i recompile  my current kernel without download kernel sorce?
[09:15] <nicekiwi> tenX: :P yeah tis a lil touch and go sometimes, CrossOver Office is a good time though
[09:15] <rob82_pcrs> upgrade
[09:15] <llutz_> dontknow: no
[09:15] <z999> hello, I'm trying to install myunity (on 12.04) and I can't find it in the software center or using apt-get. How can I get it?
[09:15] <yharrow> anyone here know anythigna bout soudn?
[09:16] <tenX> nicekiwi: still props to the effort and development, dont get me wrong
[09:16] <vidyut> does anyone know irc channel for networking things?
[09:16] <dontknow> llutz, where can i download current kernel with its default configuration to compiling?
[09:16] <rob82_pcrs> iss that a knew drink?
[09:17] <llutz_> dontknow: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[09:17] <llutz_> dontknow: the config is /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[09:17] <tenX> nicekiwi: but the idea to clone a registry based strange OS within another is a hard job
[09:18] <llutz_> vidyut: ##networking
[09:18] <dontknow> llutz, will it give me current ubuntu kernel with ubuntu patches or whatever?
[09:18] <sacarlson> vidyut: what are the things we are trying to network?
[09:18] <nicekiwi> tenX: yup.. using windows = hardjob ha ha
[09:18] <rob82_pcrs> you cant clone running processes
[09:18] <rob82_pcrs> you could do it incrementally
[09:18] <llutz_> dontknow: it should
[09:19] <dontknow> llutz, i mean if i compile out of box, will it give me same as current kernel?
[09:19] <tenX> nicekiwi: well these days its fairly usable i find
[09:19] <tenX> nicekiwi: dont like it but have to work with it a lot
[09:20] <dontknow> llutz, where can i download "linux-source", i don't want to use apt-get
[09:20] <nicekiwi> tenX: ja, same
[09:20] <rob82_pcrs> sourceforgenet
[09:20] <llutz_> dontknow:  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[09:21] <rob82_pcrs> dontknow: sourceforgenet
[09:21] <tenX> nicekiwi: what can we do about that ;)
[09:21] <tenX> nicekiwi: w8 4 win8?
[09:21] <nicekiwi> tenX: lol :P
[09:21] <rob82_pcrs> never
[09:21] <nicekiwi> tenX: ha ha.. yeah... no
[09:21] <llutz_> dontknow: why don't you use the given tools?
[09:22] <rob82_pcrs> win8......Never, , , , ,
[09:22] <rob82_pcrs> crap, d rather use Android
[09:23] <tenX> win7 is really usable - why for sakes name do they just drop the whole desktop environment?
[09:23] <dontknow> llutz_, which directory will kernel source be downloaded after using apt-get install?
[09:23] <llutz_> dontknow: /usr/src  most likely
[09:23] <rob82_pcrs> crap, d rather use Android
[09:24] <vidyut> #networking
[09:24] <dontknow> llutz_, so oyu use custom kernel?
[09:24] <dontknow> do you*
[09:24] <klops> hi, any chance anyone able to help with ubuntu 12.04 not resuming properly after a suspend? system resumes (can login via ssh), but the screen stays blank...
[09:24] <tenX> rob82_pcrs: opposing to what? win8?
[09:24] <llutz_> dontknow: no
[09:24] <dontknow> llutz, why?
[09:24] <llutz_> dontknow: why should i?
[09:24] <rob82_pcrs> klops does TAB change it from bank
[09:24] <llutz_> dontknow: the last custom kernel i used, was 2.0.3x
[09:24] <rob82_pcrs> soo u can see what is happening
[09:25] <dontknow> llutz_, they optimize for their cpu
[09:25] <klops> nope, backlight doesnt even turn on...
[09:25] <llutz_> dontknow: urban legends
[09:25] <rob82_pcrs> tenx: yes
[09:25] <rob82_pcrs> tenx: yes, sux
[09:25] <dontknow> llutz_, is it?
[09:25] <rob82_pcrs> wiin 8 ridiculous
[09:25] <tenX> rob82_pcrs: well but it cant compare
[09:25] <CokeAddict> !flash
[09:25] <CokeAddict> !restricted
[09:25] <rob82_pcrs> Android leaves it for dead
[09:26] <rob82_pcrs> 2 min istall, shame microsoft
[09:26] <llutz_> dontknow: waisted time in most cases
[09:26] <klops> havent used ubuntu since 10.04... so things are a little weird... no xorg.conf?
[09:26] <tenX> rob82_pcrs: thats mobile device usage
[09:26] <llutz_> !ot | rob82_pcrs
[09:26] <rob82_pcrs> think again
[09:26] <rob82_pcrs> Android OS has been out for YEARS
[09:26] <dontknow> llutz_, and they say it is much better compiled in your current system, it will be optimised fot your system
[09:27] <tenX> llutz_: wrong topic?
[09:27] <rob82_pcrs> ubottu: whats up G
[09:27] <llutz_> tenX: how is that ubuntu-support related?
[09:27] <rob82_pcrs> ohh , thats ok then
[09:27] <dontknow> ubottu, you have intelligence
[09:27] <rob82_pcrs> ii didn bring it up G
[09:28] <dontknow> ubottu, you are skynet
[09:28] <rob82_pcrs> ubottu: Ur funny
[09:28] <klops> so... noone has any idea why the screen wont resume after a suspend? or where i could look to diagnose the issue? :)
[09:28] <dontknow> ubottu, don't pretend
[09:28] <tenX> llutz_: i'd like to give help in case i can. but there seem to be no questions around at the time
[09:28] <rob82_pcrs> turn of screensaver G
[09:28] <rob82_pcrs> extend time, whatever
[09:29] <rob82_pcrs> remove it in/etc somewhere
[09:29] <rob82_pcrs> ii think
[09:29] <llutz_> tenX: and? this is not a chitchat channel
[09:29] <klops> not a screensaver issue :/
[09:29] <tenX> llutz_: can it be so wrong to discuss general tech stuff
[09:29] <tenX> llutz_: k
[09:29] <tenX> llutz_: see your point
[09:29] <rob82_pcrs> ii stay'n out of it..!
[09:30] <savr> hi
[09:30] <llutz_> !ot | tenX  please read this (its not MY point)
[09:30] <rob82_pcrs> wjhat up g
[09:30] <rob82_pcrs> savr: sUp
[09:30] <savr> how do I send a PDF file as a fax using a VoIP account?
[09:30] <tenX> llutz_: i got it the first time and apologized
[09:31] <dontknow> why no one compile chromium for ubuntu?
[09:31] <savr> darn credit card company needs to enter the 20th century
[09:31] <rob82_pcrs> chromium sux cant run it as root
[09:31] <sacarlson> savr: my guess is you won't be able to use voip for fax but I could be wrong,  there are fax services on the net that can
[09:31] <llutz_> !info chromium-browser | dontknow
[09:31] <kimjuhy> #salamanca
[09:32] <dontknow> llutz_, i know and it is still 18!!!
[09:32] <llutz_> dontknow: if you don't like this, you shouldn't use a distro with fixed release cycles
[09:32] <dontknow> llutz, current version is 19, it released about 3 weeks ago!
[09:33] <rob82_pcrs> ii have had a lotta luk with Mint 7
[09:33] <rob82_pcrs> based on ubuntu
[09:33] <rob82_pcrs> Mint 10, 11
[09:33] <sacarlson> savr: I guess I was wrong http://www.3cx.com/PBX/FOIP.html
[09:33] <rob82_pcrs> Mint 10,
[09:33] <rob82_pcrs> Mint 10, stuick wit 10
[09:33] <k1l> rob82_pcrs: would you mind stopping that and join the offtopic channel instead?
[09:33] <rob82_pcrs> F**** the core
[09:34] <dontknow> llutz_, they are fixing security issues and it is still 18 in ubuntu
[09:34] <dontknow> llutz_, it is unacceptable
[09:34] <rob82_pcrs> F**** the core, who cares what core it is old or knew, you use what works and thats it
[09:34] <llutz_> dontknow: see line above. discuss that with the devs
[09:34] <savr> sacarlson, yeah I need linux software not windows
[09:34] <klops> does anyone know if 12.04 still uses xorg? if not what does it use?
[09:34] <savr> I don't want to boot into windows 8 to send a fax
[09:34] <rob82_pcrs> Go wit Mint 10
[09:35] <k1l> !ops rob82_pcrs
[09:35] <Myrtti> !language |  rob82_pcrs
[09:35] <rob82_pcrs> you could just install xorg on top of it
[09:35] <dontknow> llutz_, what line?
[09:35] <llutz_> dontknow: if you don't like this, you shouldn't use a distro with fixed release cycles
[09:35] <rob82_pcrs> sorry though i was a bit rough
[09:35] <rob82_pcrs> sorry thought i was a bit ough
[09:36] <rob82_pcrs> sorry thought i was a bit rough
[09:36] <rob82_pcrs> damn keys
[09:36] <rob82_pcrs> can i say damn?
[09:36] <dontknow> llutz_, but they gives firefox updates immediately
[09:36] <SajjaD> hi everyone
[09:36] <SajjaD> cvr: hi
[09:36] <SajjaD> cvr: do u remember me?
[09:36] <rob82_pcrs> ii apolgise if i sounded off anybody
[09:37] <llutz_> dontknow: "discuss that with the devs" this is not the place for it
[09:37] <rob82_pcrs> why people change names, pointless i dont know
[09:37] <dontknow> llutz_, where is devs?
[09:38] <k1l> dontknow: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser
[09:38] <rob82_pcrs> quick change ur name KGB is scanning,,,,quick
[09:38] <rob82_pcrs> hahahh
[09:38] <rob82_pcrs> NOT
[09:38] <DJones> !ot | rob82_pcrs
[09:39] <sacarlson> savr: this free web service apears to be able to fax a pdf file direct tell me if it works http://faxzero.com/  limit is 5 free pages per day
[09:40] <savr> sacarlson, it is to my credit card company so I don't want to use any free services like that
[09:40] <klops> lol
[09:40] <dontknow> k1l, they looks like retired
[09:41] <sacarlson> savr: good point
[09:41] <SajjaD> i have problems with installing every apps and pkgs  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1042152/
[09:43] <rob82_pcrs> SajjaD: have you tried fix from boot splash
[09:44] <SajjaD> rob82_pcrs: no, how?
[09:44] <rob82_pcrs> recovery mode
[09:44] <rob82_pcrs> dpkg
[09:44] <rob82_pcrs> recovery mode, wait till it fully loads
[09:44] <rob82_pcrs> select dpkg answer yes when prompted
[09:44] <ikonia> rob82_pcrs: stop
[09:44] <ikonia> what reason ware you suggesting using recovery mode
[09:44] <k1l> SajjaD: have you read the message you just pasted?
[09:45] <rob82_pcrs> dpkg repair packages
[09:45] <ikonia> SajjaD: it looks like you have a package conflict in it's dependencies
[09:45] <k1l> try the "apt-get -f install"
[09:45] <SajjaD> k1l: yes
[09:45] <ikonia> rob82_pcrs: you don't need to do that from the recovery shell
[09:45] <rob82_pcrs> sorry, it still woorks
[09:45] <ikonia> rob82_pcrs: it's unsessary
[09:45] <rob82_pcrs> why so jumpy did i give away a secret or something
[09:46] <ikonia> rob82_pcrs: no, you where giving a user bad advice
[09:46] <rob82_pcrs> ikonia i insist you reboot to recovery TRST ME
[09:46] <ikonia> rob82_pcrs: there is no reason to reboot to recovery mode to fix a dependency problem
[09:46] <rob82_pcrs> Why have you hacked his os
[09:46] <SajjaD> k1l: i've tried that and got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1042153/
[09:47] <ikonia> SajjaD: which repo are you getting codeblocks from, and do you have any PPA's or 3rd party repos enabled
[09:48] <rob82_pcrs> hmm,,
[09:49] <SajjaD> ikonia: i have problem with every apps i want to install not only codeblocks, you see!
[09:49] <ikonia> SajjaD: understood, do you have any PPA's or 3rd party repos enabled ?
[09:49] <SajjaD> ikonia: yes
[09:50] <ikonia> SajjaD: which ones ?
[09:50] <rob82_pcrs> SajjaD : if u did what isaid G , youd be fine ignore Ikonia'
[09:50] <daysaver> greetings
[09:50] <SajjaD> ikonia: what do u mean which ones?
[09:50] <binni> can my entry into the ubuntu app showdown be based on old code by me or do I have to start coding from scratch at 18th of June?
[09:51] <ikonia> SajjaD: which PPA's and 3rd party repos do you have enabled ?
[09:51] <k1l> SajjaD: you have 3rd party and PPAs enabled which cause the problems
[09:51] <SajjaD> rob82_pcrs: recovery didn't work for me
[09:51] <daysaver> I would like to set up an ssh server  using ubuntu how would I access this from outside my home?
[09:51] <klops> ikonia: do you know anything about debugging suspend/resume in 12.04?
[09:51] <ikonia> SajjaD: recovery mode won't work it has no relevence, rob82_pcrs has been removed from the channel for trying to miss-lead you
[09:51] <daysaver> sorry to use from outside my home
[09:51] <llutz_> daysaver: if you are behind a router, setup portforwarding and use a service like dyndns/no-ip
[09:52] <SajjaD> i'm confused cause of many answer
[09:52] <ikonia> klops: I've done bits and bobs in the past, but it's normally an issue with an ati video card module or a broadcom network card module, so I rarley bother going beyond that
[09:52] <SajjaD> let me answer
[09:52] <savr> sacarlson, found hylafax-client
[09:53] <SajjaD> ikonia: can u say step by step for me what to do?
[09:53] <sacarlson> savr: I'm looking at CallWeaver
[09:53] <andybrine> hey everyone
[09:53] <ikonia> SajjaD: which PPA's and 3rd party repos do you have enabled
[09:53] <klops> yeah its an old laptop with a radeon graphics card in it... its using the open source radeon drivers... am lost where to start looking since its been 2-3 years since i used linux regularly...
[09:53] <SajjaD> many
[09:54] <provat> hi
[09:54] <andybrine> does anyone know how to install intel integrated video drivers on ubuntu 12.04?
[09:54] <SajjaD> ikonia: many
[09:54] <andybrine> just skrewed up my graphics drivers
[09:54] <ikonia> SajjaD: ok, well, it's clear without checking further that they are causing the conflict, you need to work out which repos are causing the conflict, remove the conflicting software and dependencies and then move forward
[09:54] <ikonia> klops: sorry to be negative but it will go no-where, suspend has knonw issues with the ati cards.....
[09:55] <SajjaD> ikonia: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1042158/
[09:55] <ikonia> klops: hence why I said earlier, I never bother going beyond that because it is just a fact that won't change at this time
[09:55] <klops> kk
[09:55] <klops> ty :)
[09:55] <binni> can I base my ubuntu-app-showdown entry on old code by me?
[09:55] <ikonia> SajjaD: that's a lot, and a lot of bad ones
[09:55] <ikonia> SajjaD: do you need all of those ?
[09:56] <SajjaD> ikonia: maybe
[09:56] <sacarlson> savr: but that apears to require going through a hylafax server so it's just as insecure as the website I originaly gave you
[09:56] <savr> ok
[09:56] <ikonia> SajjaD: you need to work out what you actually want and need, if you need all of them then you are going to have to learn how to check for dependency conflicts and learn how to manage them
[09:57] <savr> sacarlson, I can't load callwaver in china for some reason
[09:58] <sacarlson> savr:  I was having the same problem with there blog but this http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/CallWeaver#T38FaxoverIP
[09:59] <klops> Fixed! Changed from suspend, to shutdown in the power settings haha... oh well, wife is insisting i reinstall windows on the machine, was hoping to change her mind... ;p
[09:59] <SkippersBoss> andybrine: define screwed up ?? what is it saying
[09:59] <andybrine> i have installed nvidia drivers in error as i thought my graphics were nvidia
[09:59] <andybrine> i am not able to remove them now :s
[10:00] <sacarlson> savr: I see some packages that use skype to be the interface between the fax but not sure in linux, I wonder if this callweaver will work over skype?
[10:00] <andybrine> I need to install the intel drivers instead
[10:00] <rob82__pcrs> who had the nerv to ban me!!
[10:00] <savr> sacarlson, will look into it thanks
[10:00] <rob82__pcrs> ii didn do nothing G
[10:00] <klops> sigh, he's back :/
[10:01] <savr> rob82__pcrs, you use bigpond
[10:01] <ikonia> rob82__pcrs: I can reban you if you do'nt calm down
[10:01] <rob82__pcrs> ii give advice which is Usable
[10:01] <savr> rob82__pcrs, and act like a moron
[10:01] <rob82__pcrs> soo
[10:01] <zivedo> nvidia drivers for intel integrated? puhh
[10:01] <ikonia> savr: enough please.
[10:01] <rob82__pcrs> who cares what use,
[10:01] <ikonia> rob82__pcrs: stop now
[10:01] <rob82__pcrs> Why did you though
[10:01] <ikonia> rob82__pcrs: if you join #ubuntu-ops, I'll explain to you
[10:02] <SkippersBoss> andybrine: what is the error message you are getting
[10:02] <rob82__pcrs> forget about it
[10:02] <rob82__pcrs> kk.
[10:02] <belgianguy> so I can't boot into any 3.x anymore
[10:02] <SajjaD> ikonia: what should i do now?
[10:02] <ikonia> SajjaD: exactly what I said
[10:02] <belgianguy> but GRUB allowed me to boot into a previous version
[10:02] <belgianguy> how do I best move forward to repair the 3.x version?
[10:02] <ikonia> belgianguy: explain your problem
[10:02] <SajjaD> ikonia: but how?
[10:03] <belgianguy> I did some updates, and it caused lightdm to crash on reboot
[10:03] <andybrine> SkippersBoss, there is no specific error. It just stoped the 3d graphics working and gone back to 2d
[10:03] <belgianguy> eg, no gfx anymore, got dropped to console
[10:03] <ikonia> SajjaD: well, the first step is working out which of those PPA's you actually need
[10:03] <rob82__pcrs> repair boot now (grub)
[10:03] <andybrine> and old style menus :s
[10:03] <ikonia> rob82__pcrs: stop - that advice is not applicable to SajjaD's issue
[10:03] <andybrine> i will do a quick reboot and be back
[10:03] <belgianguy> so now I found a way back in so to say, through GRUB > Previous versions > 2.6.x
[10:03] <SajjaD> ikonia: how can i disable ppa's that make problems?
[10:04] <rob82__pcrs> He cant boot anymore into them
[10:04] <ikonia> SajjaD: you can't, that's why I said you need to work out which ones you actually need, then remove the software of the ones you don't need AND all theid dependencies
[10:04] <rob82__pcrs> didn u read
[10:04] <SkippersBoss> andynrine: well sudo apt-get purge <nvidia-drivers package> in terminal should in theory remove a previously installed package
[10:04] <ikonia> belgianguy: when you boot, do you get the grub menu ?
[10:05] <belgianguy> ikonia: yes
[10:05] <ikonia> belgianguy: what are the options  ?
[10:05] <belgianguy> 3.2.25 (IIRC) and the 3.2.25 recovery mode, the "Previous Options", memcheck and Windows 7
[10:06] <ikonia> belgianguy: so you don't have a menu item for a previous kernel in there ?
[10:06] <k1l> belgianguy: did you install the grafix driver manually?
[10:06] <belgianguy> kll, yes, I updated fglrx not long ago
[10:06] <belgianguy> manually
[10:06] <ikonia> there we goo.....
[10:07] <k1l> belgianguy: if you do it manually you have to repeat it for every new kernel
[10:07] <belgianguy> kll, ohh...
[10:07] <belgianguy> can I revert to "go with the flow" style graphics drivers? :/
[10:08] <Guest44754> I want bots
[10:08] <Guest44754> :D
[10:11] <andybrine> SkippersBoss, it says that im using mesa drivers
[10:11] <dontknow> does ubuntu default kernel use patches or is it vanilla on kernel.org?
[10:11] <llutz_> dontknow: it uses patches
[10:11] <andybrine> here is the output from glxinfo Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset x86/MMX/SSE2
[10:12] <dontknow> llutz_, are you sure, if so, what patches?
[10:12] <llutz_> dontknow: get linux-source, read changelog
[10:12] <dontknow> llutz_, ok ok
[10:12] <llutz_> !info linux-source   | dontknow
[10:13] <andybrine> glxgears is working ok now
[10:13] <Kerby82_> hey anyone there know the equivalent of chkconf on ubuntu?
[10:15] <lizzin> how do i specify which commands i wanted executed when i run startx?...i want `xrandr -s 1920x1200` ran each time i startx
[10:16] <llutz_> lizzin: add it to ~/.xinitrc
[10:16] <lizzin> llutz_: before or after the listing for the window manager?
[10:17] <lizzin> llutz_: just tried before and it worked, thanks
[10:17] <lizzin> llutz_: before asking, i tried it after with no luck :( figured i needed another file
[10:17] <llutz_> lizzin: idk, try it
[10:19] <llutz_> lizzin: does it work if you run it from ~/.config/autostart?
[10:20] <lizzin> llutz_: nope
[10:25] <OrigenAG> Hey Guys, I messed up my mdadm array and my mirror shows a disk as removed yet I'm unable to re-add it. Anyone have experience with mdadm and care to help out?
[10:26] <Nyan_dog> hi
[10:27] <Nyan_dog> anyone here?
[10:27] <OrigenAG> yep
[10:28] <dontknow> anyone know where gnome do index location?
[10:29] <devxdev> Can anyone help with "Buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block nnnnnnn" this is occurring when mounting
[10:29] <dontknow> anyone here using gnome do?
[10:30] <dontknow> i have questions about gnome do
[10:30] <pioneer> dontknow, whats up with gnome do?
[10:31] <dontknow> pioneer, it duplicates filenames
[10:31] <dontknow> pioneer, i mean gives me two results about same file, i will give you exmaple
[10:33] <bvad> Hey guys, is it a known bug that using Emerald in unity(with compiz and everything), causes the window buttons(minimize, maximize, close) to disappear after maximizing and minimizing the window?
[10:33] <Lewandowski__> How do I change the the last acces and modification for file with touch ?
[10:33] <dontknow> pioneer, one of them "~/downloads/filename" other ones is "file://~/downloads/filename" two of them same file, every files indexed that way in gnome do
[10:34] <Lewandowski__> How do I change the the last acces and modification for a file with the touch command?
[10:34] <dontknow> pioneer, are you there?
[10:35] <devxdev> touch filename
[10:35] <Lewandowski__> How do I change the the last acces and modification for a file with the touch command?
[10:35] <Lewandowski__> dev can you tell me the whole command?
[10:35] <bvad> Lewandowski__, using touch -t MYFILE
[10:35] <Lewandowski__> devxdev,
[10:35] <bvad> -t followed by the stamp
[10:36] <Lewandowski__> bvad,  and that change the acces and the modification of the file
[10:36] <Lewandowski__> ?
[10:36] <devxdev> !touch | Lewandowski__
[10:36] <devxdev> >_>
[10:36] <Lewandowski__> And how do I change modification and acces for separated ?
[10:37] <Lewandowski__> for example acces- june modification september
[10:37] <bvad> Lewandowski__, if you want to change the access and modification to NOW, you can use just "touch MYFILE"
[10:37] <bvad> Try running "man touch", there are some different flags you can try
[10:38] <Lewandowski__> I want to change them but for diferent dates for example acces june and modification september
[10:38] <bvad> You'd have to use -t first, to change both, then -a to change the access time. So you set both to september, then afterwards you set access to june with -a
[10:39] <meet> how do i change the indicator applets i ubuntu 12.04??
[10:39] <bvad> meet, change them how?
[10:39] <bvad> The icons, which are shown or something else?
[10:39] <meet> bvad: ya, the icons
[10:40] <bvad> meet, Do you know how to change icons normally?
[10:40] <meet> bvad: like there is this universal access settings applet which i want to remove, or even the battery icon is showing only a graphical battery
[10:41] <meet> bvad: no i don't
[10:41] <bvad> Are you using gnome or unity?
[10:41] <meet> gnome
[10:41] <bvad> I see, sec
[10:41] <bvad> meet, go here: https://extensions.gnome.org/ then find "remove accessibilty"
[10:42] <bvad> there should be sort of an enable button on the webpage, enable it, and it should go away
[10:42] <bvad> Gnome is a bit odd when it comes to the indicator applets
[10:42] <meet> does this site now work in chrome?
[10:42] <bvad> It should
[10:43] <bvad> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/112/remove-accesibility/ this is it
[10:43] <ezoe> say, why does this channel kick people who was just idle at that time?
[10:44] <meet> bvad: btw the other extensions which i had installed through this site earlier in 11.10 are now all showing an outdate icon before them.. what does that mean?
[10:44] <bvad> The extensions are not compatible with the new unity used in 12.04\
[10:45] <bvad> i mean gnome :)
[10:45] <bvad> Gnome 3.4
[10:45] <bvad> 11.10 had 3.2 in the repos afaik
[10:46] <meet> i have installed that fallback session in unity which gives me gnome, gnome classic etc..
[10:46] <meet> bvad: thanks, was able to remove that icon :)
[10:46] <_sundar_> i am trying to compile kamailio on ubuntu 12.04. i get an error that mysql.h file not found. which package should i install for this? i tried mysql-server, mysql-source5.1 and mysql-client
[10:46] <bvad> meet: Great :)
[10:47] <bvad> _sundar_: look for something with mysql-dev in it
[10:47] <_sundar_> bvad, i get 4 packages listed with mysql-dev
[10:47] <bvad> Are they installed?
[10:47] <bvad> I just have to look this up :)
[10:48] <_sundar_> no, but they seem to be for java bindings and LUA
[10:48] <bvad> Oh, give me a sec, I'll see if I can find something
[10:48] <_sundar_> bvad, ok thanks :)
[10:48] <dcurbelo_> hola
[10:48] <bvad> I
[10:48] <bvad> I'm not sure, but try libmysqld-dev
[10:49] <_sundar_> bvad, installing it...
[10:49] <ssyed> hola
[10:49] <ssyed> hola
[10:49] <ssyed> hola
[10:49] <FloodBot1> ssyed: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:50] <ssyed> ketal
[10:50] <lelamal> !es | ssyed
[10:50] <_sundar_> bvad, thanks that was the package needed :)
[10:50] <_sundar_> bvad, thanks much!
[10:50] <bvad> _sundar_: No problem! :)
[10:50] <ssyed> ocm fe facsbook
[10:52] <burg_> hello. how can i find which application/service uses a specified port?
[10:53] <sipior> burg_: have a look in /etc/services
[10:54] <burg_> sipior: my problem is that someone installed something on my server and now an application connects to hundreds of ips over smtp and most probably sends spam.
[10:55] <burg_> sipior: cat /etc/services | grep smtp only shows smtp and ssmtp
[10:55] <sipior> burg_: that sounds right.
[10:56] <burg_> sipior: so how can i find which is the application that sends spam?
[10:56] <belgianguy> I can't get into 3.2.0.25 anymore
[10:56] <belgianguy> now I'm in the 3.2.0.25 (recovery mode)
[10:56] <burg_> sipior: iftop -P shows lots and lots of ips with smtp port
[10:56] <meet> how to remove previously added bluetooth devices from the bluetooth menu?
[10:57] <belgianguy> but I don't know how to reinstall fglrx with all its dependencies
[10:57] <sipior> burg_: the -p switch to netstat will show you the offending pids
[10:57] <bvad> belgianguy: have you tried "apt-get install fglrx-updates" ?
[10:58] <belgianguy> bvad, I was running a manual driver installation it seems
[10:58] <belgianguy> and that update is queued
[10:58] <belgianguy> but I don't dare to install it, as I fear it'll break more
[10:59] <bvad> It shouldn't really break anything, if you're already stuck in recovery :) Does the opensource driver work for your system? You can try it as a temp. solution to boot normally
[11:00] <belgianguy> bvad: I tried to revert to the open source driver, and I think that succeeded
[11:00] <bvad> blegianguy: Okay, are you able to get into X?
[11:00] <belgianguy> bvad, after recovery I picked 'resume'
[11:01] <belgianguy> will that still be recovery, or just 'regular'?
[11:01] <belgianguy> as now the fglrx driver is highlighted in the "additional drivers" dialog
[11:02] <bvad> belgianguy: You picked recovery in grub? If I were you, I'd reboot and try booting normally now
[11:02] <belgianguy> bvad: ok
[11:03] <belgianguy> brb :)
[11:05] <nicekiwi> heyyy im getting an error when I try to do an upgrade, i think its trying to upgrade the kernel? http://pastebin.com/DkeuS6j1
[11:06] <nicekiwi> klops: Ubuntu 12.04 DOES use Xorg
[11:06] <klops> but doesnt use xorg.conf?
[11:07] <adamk_> klops, Not by default, no.  It autodetects everything.
[11:07] <nicekiwi> klops: ^^
[11:07] <adamk_> klops, You can still create an xorg.conf file, or a file under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[11:07] <klops> creepy
[11:07] <dontknow> could someone please, please tell me where gnome do index location?
[11:08] <dontknow> there is no information about that on internet!é
[11:08] <dontknow> i need to remove gnome do index and reindex files
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> dontknow  what do you mean by 'gnome do index location'?
[11:09] <dontknow> MonkeyDust, it indexes file names for quick launch, right? i am looking for where the location is
[11:10] <klops> ty for that info though :)
[11:10] <nicekiwi> hmmm awkward... how big should a  /boot partition be?
[11:11] <atlantide> hi  i am using autofs5, the daemon don't unmount them after a period of inactivity and it mount automatically all users partition instead of one user, thanks
[11:11] <Sonderblade> Where in kde is the configuration for which directories a user is sharing through samba?
[11:11] <sipior> nicekiwi: 100MB is usually plenty.
[11:11] <nicekiwi> sipior: yeah i thought so too, but its like 2 days since i installed ubuntu and its already used 84MB out of 94MB :/ ????
[11:12] <sipior> nicekiwi: and the culprit is?
[11:12] <klops> 100mb used to be about 2-3 kernel images...
[11:13] <bvad> On a side note, is it really necessary to have a separate boot partition?
[11:13] <nicekiwi> sipior: i dont know, how do I find out?
[11:13] <sipior> klops: more like twenty.
[11:13] <ejo> bvad: can make integrity scans after accidental shutdown much faster
[11:13] <nicekiwi> sipior: disk space analyzer?
[11:13] <sipior> nicekiwi: "ls -l"
[11:13] <klops> du -h /boot ?
[11:13] <ejo> bvad: also potentially you can recover from breaking your boot partition without losing other partitions, of course
[11:13] <bvad> ejo: Thanks :) I'm not using one on my SSD, since, well, it's not too big
[11:14] <ndlovu> does anyone know of issues that could arise if I use both shotwell and digiKam for managing my photos?
[11:14] <bvad> ejo: That's more what I was thinking, but the faster scans are nice
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> nicekiwi  run sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade;sudo apt-get autoremove for a first basic cleanup
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> w
[11:16] <nicekiwi> MonkeyDust: it removed a few packages, but still the same error :(
[11:16] <wubino> I started a python script on the cl via terminator, the program in running according to the system monitor and terminator is on the unity bar but I cannot get it to expand to a full view
[11:16] <wubino> without starting a differnet and new instance
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> terminator. or the python app?
[11:18] <klops> 25mb for 1 kernel image in /boot atm... :|
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> nicekiwi  sure you don't have too many kernels installed in / ?
[11:20] <nicekiwi> MonkeyDust: yeah that seems to be the issue, i had 3
[11:21] <caiyue> about   samba4  ,  i  can  not  install
[11:21] <Fashion> ciao
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> nicekiwi  i use the 3rd party app ubuntu-tweak to remove kernels, it's not in the repos, have to download it
[11:21] <Blackshirt> Caiyue, samba4 was on development stage..not ready for production
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> nicekiwi  ubuntu-tweak *is* in the repos
[11:24] <Fashion> come di fa a scarica un file???
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> !it
[11:25] <Fashion> ok
[11:25] <nicekiwi> MonkeyDust: ahhh good call :P i just deleted them from boot via console, but that'd be an easyer option. thanks :)
[11:25] <Fashion> lo devo prima trovare...ahah
[11:26] <hariom> When I try to play an audio file using aplay, I get this error:   ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave, aplay: main:660: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[11:26] <hariom> How to get audio working?
[11:26] <hapster> Hello. I just bought an asus k55v laptop with nvidia 610m and ivy bridge processor. How can I set nouveau to read the nvidia gpu instead of the intel gpu? Ubuntu's details shows its using the intel gpu. lscpi | grep VGA shows both nvidia and intel.
[11:27] <bvad> hariom: Does audio not work at all? System wise
[11:27] <adamk> hapster: If this is a laptop with Optimus (which is what it sounds like) you can only use the nvidia GPU with the nvidia driver, and only with bumblebee.
[11:27] <bvad> system wide*
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> nicekiwi  good thing you're familiar with the CLI :)
[11:28] <hapster> adamk: It has no optimus.
[11:28] <adamk> hapster: Then disable the intel GPU in the BIOS
[11:28] <hapster> adamk: I've dealt with optimus laptops before. I'm sure this one doesn't have
[11:29] <nicekiwi> MonkeyDust: :D slowly learning :) good times! cheers
[11:29] <hapster> adamk: Ok. Will try that out. Thanks. brb.
[11:29] <adamk> hapster: If it has two GPUs, and it's not Optimus, then there would be an option in the BIOS.
[11:29] <Fashion> uffaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:29] <hariom> bvad: It works
[11:30] <hariom> bvad: I can play youtube video
[11:30] <hariom> but not on cmd line
[11:31] <klops> is it via ssh? or on your actual machine?
[11:34] <hariom> Anybody to solve this? When I try to play an audio file using aplay, I get this error:   ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave, aplay: main:660: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[11:34] <bvad> hariom: I think it might have to do with pulseaudio, which is using alsa. Can you try typing the command you use to play sounds in the cl?
[11:36] <bvad> hariom: Are you sure you using aplay to play to the correct sound device?
[11:36] <klops> i should give up on this suspend problem, but im enjoying figuring out how things have changed since i've used ubuntu :)
[11:37] <hariom> bvad: aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: I82801AAICH [Intel 82801AA-ICH], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel 82801AA-ICH]  Subdevices: 1/1  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[11:37] <hariom> bvad: I just tried aplay <sound file>
[11:37] <adamk_> hariom, Did you create a custom ~/.asoundrc file or edit /etc/asound.conf?
[11:38] <bvad> hariom: give me a sec, I might have an idea :)
[11:38] <hapster> admak_: no option in the bios to turn off intel gpu.:(
[11:38] <hariom> adamk_: nope
[11:38] <hariom> bvad: ok
[11:38] <adamk_> hapster, So then it's an optimus laptop.
[11:38] <hapster> admak_: I'm pretty sure it's not an optimus laptop. haha. I can use the nvidia-current driver.
[11:39] <hapster> admak_: But I want to use nouveau
[11:39] <bvad> hariom: try "aplay -D plughw:0,0 (SOUNDFILE)"
[11:39] <bvad> hariom: This should direct the to the correct card at least
[11:40] <hariom> bvad: that worked
[11:40] <bvad> hariom: great! :)
[11:40] <hariom> bvad: I can listen the audio
[11:40] <hariom> bvad: How to make it work without directing to hw by default
[11:41] <klops> create an alias?
[11:42] <bvad> hariom: I think you will have to modify your ~/.asoundrc file, but I'm not quite sure if this will not break pulse, or if it will even work
[11:42] <dzup1> or arecord|aplay
[11:42] <dzup1> lol
[11:43] <dontknow> could someone tell me how to make gnome do reindexed, i did "sudo apt-get purge gnome-do" and removed "~local/share/gnome-do. after installed it again all indexed files was there!! how can i reindex files?
[11:43] <hariom> dzup1: whats it for arecord|aplay?
[11:44] <dzup1> mic to speakers
[11:44] <bvad> hariom: It redirects your default input device(mic) to default speakers
[11:44] <flyingcoding> #ubuntu-cn
[11:44] <dzup1> try but will loop your voice, ctrl c will stop
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> your own pa system
[11:44] <hariom> bvad, dzup1: got it
[11:45] <bvad> dontknow: AFAIK there should be an option in gnome-do to do a reindex
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> or mrr. microphone ;)
[11:45] <hariom> bvad, dzup1, any way to make aplay work without -D option?
[11:45] <dontknow> bvad, no there is no
[11:45] <bvad> hariom: does the arecord|aplay think work?
[11:45] <hariom> bvad: nope
[11:45] <bvad> dontknow: Hmm, let me try figuring something out then
[11:46] <dzup1> hariom: idk
[11:46] <bvad> hariom: Your default device must be set wrong then, sec
[11:46] <adamk_> hapster, I'd love to see the Xorg log file from when you were using the nvidia driver.
[11:46] <bvad> hariom: have you tried alsamixer?
[11:46] <dontknow> bvad, i searched for how to reindex, couldn't find on internet, i woul appreciate if you find a way
[11:47] <hapster> adamk_: Ok. hang on.
[11:47] <dzup1> hariom: you have no sound?
[11:47] <bvad> dzup1: He has sound, but he has to direct it to the correct HW device
[11:47] <dzup1> bvad: i see, alsamixer
[11:47] <dabbu> i have nvidia gt 520M but my graphics experience is standard ..any help ?
[11:47] <invlpg[1]> ubuntu's package manager makes me lots of trouble lately. mysql-common's package is a total wreck and somehow it is affected the entire system. what can i do to repair? (synaptic could not repair due to some weird problems)
[11:48] <hariom> bvad, dzup1: alsamixer has given me options to change the volumn in command window (no GUI)
[11:48] <dzup1> hariom: one terminal run arecord|aplay   other terminal run alsamixer   tweek alsamixer into you hear something
[11:50] <hapster> adamk_: This is the dmesg file: http://pastebin.com/WctWPbdm And this is the Xorg log: http://pastebin.com/vZUBSfaV
[11:50] <bvad> hariom: The issue at it's core is that the default device is set wrong. You can change the default device in ~/.asoundrc, if you like I can show you how
[11:50] <hariom> dzup1, doesn't works that way
[11:51]  * dzup1 hides
[11:51] <adamk_> hapster, That Xorg log file shows Xorg using the intel drive, not the nvidia driver.
[11:51] <bvad> hariom: Do you really need aplay to work without the need for -D ? Ubuntu uses pulseaudio, which should do all this stuff for you
[11:51] <hariom> bvad: Should I install pulseaudio and uninstall alsa?
[11:52] <hapster> adamk_: That's my problem. I'm chatting in the nouveau channel as well. I want it to read the nvidia 610m.
[11:52] <hapster> adamk_: According to them, my chips are relatively new so it doesn't support 3D acceleration yet.
[11:52] <bvad> hariom: Do you have a default ubuntu 12.04 installation? Pulseaudio is an audio server, which uses alsa or something else as it's backend afaik
[11:52] <adamk_> hapster, Again, I believe this is a laptop with Optimus.  You said it wasn't because it worked fine with the nvidia driver without bumblebee.  But you have yet to show it working with the nvidia driver.
[11:53] <hariom> bvad: I have 10.04 LTS
[11:53] <ks07> Hey all - does TRIM work when SSDs are used for a software raid device? The raid array is formatted as ext4 via the installer, but I don't know how to check/if anything needs to be done?
[11:53] <bvad> hariom: It should use pulseaudio, try running "which pulseaudio", it should return something like /usr/bin/pulseaudio
[11:54] <hapster> adamk_: It's working with nvidia-current. Nouveau guys said nvd9 is not yet supported.
[11:55] <hariom> bvad: pulseaudio
[11:55] <hariom> E: pid.c: Daemon already running.
[11:55] <hariom> E: main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[11:55] <adamk_> hapster, Alright so, again, pastebin the Xorg log file from when you are using the nvidia driver.
[11:55] <hapster> adamk_: So I guess I'll have to wait if I want to use the nouveau driver.
[11:55] <thehumanerror> Hello guys. My update-manager isn't working, it works when I run it with sudo, but that's no good because it never alerts me that updates are needed
[11:55] <thehumanerror> apt-get update and apt-get upgrade work fine
[11:55] <bvad> hariom: this means that pulseaudio is already up and running :) There should not be a need for you to reconfigure the alsa default device, pulseaudio is doing this for you
[11:56] <hapster> adamk_: But then I'll have to reload it and restart it. haha. Brb. Will get the logs.
[11:56] <thehumanerror> but even when I manually run update-manager it never finds any updates
[11:56] <bvad> hariom: Unless you specifically need aplay to work without the -D flag
[11:57] <adamk_> hapster, This is mostly out of curiousity.  I've not heard of a modern laptop, with two GPUs, that is not Optimus and does not have an option in the BIOS to disable the onboard GPU.
[11:57] <lanoxx> trs
[11:58] <hapster> adamk_: http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/K55VD-SX035
[11:58] <hapster> adamk_: That's my laptop's model
[11:59] <klops> hapster: nice laptop :)
[11:59] <hariom> bvd: Ok, I have install sox and now play cmd works
[12:00] <hapster> klops: thanks. Just got it today.
[12:00] <bvad> hariom: Okay, great!
[12:01] <bvad> hariom: Do you mind if I ask you what you need this for? :)
[12:01] <hariom> bvad: playing audio files and transcoding if require
[12:01] <bvad> hariom: Okay, cool :) Have fun and all
[12:02] <roundsheep> hello ,everyone . i am coming from china
[12:02] <tenX> roundsheep: greetings
[12:03] <burg_> sipior: it seems that it stopped sending smtp spam at the moment, any oither idea how can i detect the application which does that?
[12:03] <thehumanerror> anyone have any ideas on my update-manager problem?
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> roundsheep  this is the ubuntu support channel
[12:04] <dontknow> gnome do is duplicating files, i mean it indexes same file twice. what is the correct term for search about this issue with google because i am not native english language
[12:06] <bvad> thehumanerror: What problem? :)
[12:09] <Angelica> ciao
[12:09] <Angelica> !list
[12:28] <ictxiangxin> how to send image?
[12:28] <ictxiangxin> use irc
[12:29] <DJones> ictxiangxin: A screenshot?
[12:29] <notwist> ictxiangxin upload it to imgur
[12:29] <ictxiangxin> yes
[12:29] <ictxiangxin> give me a url please
[12:30] <DJones> !imagebin | ictxiangxin
[12:32] <Anomie21> Can anyone help with this cronjob?, I know its the positioning of my quotation marks, but don't know how to fix it, I tried escaping them (as you can see by the /'s) but its still not working  http://bpaste.net/show/WWp04DgpgszmGARPE7rg/
[12:33] <matcouto> Hi y'all, Is there a way to find out what made the ubuntu to freeze? any log? I had to shut it down by holding the power button. Ps.: I'm using MATE as W.M.
[12:34] <pandu> ActionParsnip ?
[12:36] <ictxiangxin> thx
[12:36] <ictxiangxin> ubottu: thank you
[12:38] <zybiski> haha i love this
 You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[12:38] <zybiski> remember that one
[12:39] <zybiski> robots will be treated as humans - not because theres a question of their humanity
[12:40] <zybiski> but because humans react in a courteous manner when they recognise aspects of humanity in whatever it is they're interacting with
[12:40] <zybiski> (people are much more courteous to a squirrel then to a rock, and again more to a chimpansee than to a squirrel)
[12:41] <zybiski> so, there's some degree of courteousness towards rocks
[12:41] <zybiski> now imagine that this rock could talk, communicate, and help you fix pc troubles
[12:41] <zybiski> how much kindness would you show it then?
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> zybiski  did you have a support question?
[12:42] <zybiski> :) no. Point taken.
[12:45] <Oran_> Hi, i got a problem, i use ubuntu 12.04 and a notebook with nvidia gt540, i tried serval thinks but ubuntu wont recognize my gpu.
[12:45] <Oran_> can anyone help me
[12:45] <Oran_> ?
[12:45] <solid91> hi everibody, i've totally lost my graphic interface. i can only see the desktop icons and the terminal...what can i repair?
[12:45] <solid91> *how can i repair
[12:45] <T3X> Hi guys, my server is behind a router, my router is not able to monitore the bandwidth on the network how can i monitor bandwidth usage on my ntnetwork?
[12:46] <Oran_> could some querry me if he or she cna help me
[12:47] <serverboy> TX3: try to use pfsense
[12:47] <adamk_> Oran_, Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[12:47] <Oran_> adamk_:  1 sek
[12:48] <Oran_> i will be back in a sec
[12:50] <T3X> Hi guys, my server is behind a router, my router is not able to monitore the bandwidth on the network how can i monitor bandwidth usage on my ntnetwork?
[12:50] <ichbinder> hello. I have an NTFS drive that I need to look at. When trying to mount it (Ubuntu 12.04) I first got an error MFTMirr and MFT differ. Using "ntfsfix" fixed that. But now, I get the error "Failed to calculate free MFT records: input/output error". Using "ntfsfix" again doesn't help, it says it can mount the partition... I would like to follow Ubuntus advice to run "chdsk" in windows, but I currently haven't access to a windows OS.
[12:50] <ichbinder>  Any other suggestions? Really appreciat any kind of help.
[12:51] <ikonia> ichbinder: why are you using ntfsfix to mount it
[12:51] <ikonia> just mount it
[12:51] <gry> T3X: darkstat ntop and probably few others; 'apt-cache search monitor bandwidth' 'apt-cache search network usage'
[12:51] <ikonia> ichbinder: you really should find a windows machien to run chkdsk on
[12:52] <ikonia> gry: did you test the network-manager change ?
[12:52] <T3X> gry: these tools will allow me to monitor also the bandwidth of the other machines on the network? because i tried ntop and tcptrack they allow only to monitor my local interfaces on my comuter
[12:53] <ichbinder> ikonia: hm, guess that was misleading. I'm not using ntfsfix to mount it. I wanted to see if ntfsfix can fix that last error. It's output was http://paste.ubuntu.com/1042336/ and that's what I meant with "ntfsfix can mount it"
[12:53] <gry> ikonia: did you get couple highlights (~16 hours ago)? (the networkmanager managed=true option didn't change the problem; the system boots in the same way with the same delay & messages as it did before)
[12:53] <ikonia> ichbinder: manipulating ntfs in linux is not something I'd recommend
[12:53] <Oran> adamk what kind of log u needed?
[12:53] <ikonia> gry: didn't see the higlights, annoying it didn't change anything, I expected it to boot smooth after that
[12:54] <ikonia> gry: I'll do some more research
[12:54] <gry> yup
[12:54] <ichbinder> ikonia: I use "$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt/test" to mount it and the output was: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1042337/
[12:54] <Oran> adamk_ what kind of log u needed?
[12:54] <adamk_> Oran, Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[12:54] <ikonia> gry: I'm confident with the issue, any I know forcing either all network manager or no network manager will fix it, however doing that to your mixed needs is tricky to manage
[12:55] <ikonia> ichbinder: yes, so running chkdsk is where you should be going
[12:55] <ichbinder> ikonia: hm... tough to find a windows machine... but ok, I'll try to.
[12:55] <ichbinder> ikonia: thanks
[12:55] <gry> T3X: I fear that you'd probably have to do that on the router itself (or does the server actually see the traffic of other machines on the network? if it does, just give a few hints on how exactly it does that for someone to suggest a solution)
[12:55] <belgianguy> ikonia, bvad: I'm back in my regular Ubuntu ^^ seems to work again
[12:55] <dontknow> what is the "file://" structure?
[12:55] <belgianguy> does seem to take a little longer to boot now for some odd reason
[12:55] <ikonia> belgianguy: it will come and go
[12:56] <Oran> iam kind of new to this adamk_ should copy the whole file to the channel ?
[12:56] <adamk_> No.
[12:56] <ikonia> !pastebin | Oran
[12:56] <solid91> hi everibody, i've totally lost my graphic interface. i can only see the desktop icons and the terminal...how can i repair?
[12:56] <belgianguy> ikonia: yeah, I know, I have some residuals of a long gone Plymouth installation
[12:56] <andai> Got 3 gigs of ram. Should I get 32 or 64 bit ubuntu?
[12:57] <belgianguy> that's bugging up the works as well
[12:57] <miss_ubuntu_> can sm1 plzzz answer my Question: is there any software in ubuntu , similar to gmail tasks ? gmail tasks rock but i need offline app ?
[12:57] <salvatore91> ciao
[12:57] <salvatore91> !list
[12:58] <Oran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1042349/
[12:58] <belgianguy> miss_ubuntu_: http://namsisi.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/gmail-tasks-in-your-ubuntu-system-tray/
[12:58] <belgianguy> ?
[12:58] <Oran> adamk_ like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1042349/
[12:58] <theubuntuwarrior> whats up people
[12:58] <adamk_> Oran, Pastebin the output of 'lspci' now.
[12:59] <miss_ubuntu_> belgianguy thanks alot
[12:59] <miss_ubuntu_> belgianguy thanks alot but this is online ,  i need an offline solution
[12:59] <Oran> adamk_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1042355/
[13:00] <adamk_> Oran, This laptop likely has Optimus.  If that's the case, you will have to look into a project called Bumblebee to make use of the nvidia GPU.
[13:01] <Oran> adamk_ i already did this
[13:01] <adamk_> Oran, You can check the computer BIOS, though, and see if maybe there's an option to disable the on-board intel GPU.
[13:01] <T3X> !dvd
[13:01] <T3X> !coc
[13:01] <Oran> but it seems that the problem for bumblebee seems that i doesnt bring in the corrct driver
[13:02] <Oran> i also tried the otion in the bios, to turn from switcheble to integrated
[13:02] <Oran> both doesnt work
[13:04] <belgianguy> miss_ubuntu_: seems it doesn't exist (yet) and people have been asking for it since a few years already
[13:04] <Oran> adamk_
[13:04] <Oran> did u saw my posts ?
[13:04] <miss_ubuntu_> belgianguy thanks alot
[13:05] <belgianguy> miss_ubuntu_: there is a Chrome extension though
[13:05] <adamk_> Oran, Yes, but there's nothing more I can contribute.  I know nothing about bumblebee, and if you had started by telling us you tried bumblebee already, I wouldn't have even replied in the first place.
[13:05] <belgianguy> miss_ubuntu_: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/jekhpicinnaamcmadbipjejafgkjdokh
[13:05] <Oran> adamk_:  soory than for stealing ur time
[13:06] <belgianguy> but if this is possible, I don't see how it cannot be standalone
[13:06] <adamk_> Oran, Oh, don't worry about that :-)  Good luck.  You might have more luck on #bumblebee
[13:06] <ssrverboy> hello guys, is ther any one here figured out how to work netgear wireless usb on ubuntu 12.4?
[13:06] <Oran> i already was there thoose guys directed my to this channel
[13:07] <miss_ubuntu_> oh thanks belgianguy let me try it
[13:07] <adamk_> Typical.
[13:08] <fasta> How do I get rid of a defunct process?
[13:09] <fasta> kill -9 won't get rid of it.
[13:09] <fasta> Isn't there some kind of kill --IMeanIt option?
[13:09] <zykotick9> fasta: is it a zombie?
[13:10] <JWFoxJr> Did they take the User Wallpaper feature out of Unity Greeter? Or does my wallpaper have to live in a certain directory for it to work?
[13:10] <fasta> zykotick9: probably, ps didn't list that.
[13:10] <zykotick9> fasta: does "top" report any zombies?
[13:11] <Oran> adamk_ could u help me with this ? : First, if you are using Ubuntu using version 3.0-1~...ppa1, upgrade to 3.0-1~...ppa2 or newer and be sure that bumblebee-nvidia is installed if you are using the proprietary nvidia driver. A reboot may be necessary.
[13:11] <fasta> zykotick9: yes, 29 in fact.
[13:11] <xendon> hello can someone help me to get my alsa working ?
[13:11] <rebe> anyone else have a problem with flash in chrome, so everything is blue ?
[13:11] <fasta> rebe: I have seen that.
[13:12] <zykotick9> fasta: wow that's a lot.  only why i'm aware of getting rid of zombies is to reboot.  good luck.
[13:12] <fasta> rebe: solution is to disable hardware accel.
[13:12] <fasta> rebe: and yes, it is a crappy solution.
[13:12] <rebe> It happend today, before it was all good
[13:12] <fasta> rebe: no need to tell me that, complain to someone else.
[13:12] <adamk_> Oran, Sorry, as I said, I really don't know anything about bumblebee.  I'm not sure what those version numbers even refer to.
[13:12] <zykotick9> rebe: fullscreen the video, then right click and disable h/w acceleration
[13:12] <fasta> rebe: there is nothing you can do.
[13:13] <Oran> hmm i though that would be a ubtunut think
[13:13] <fasta> zykotick9: don't you think it's kind of pathetic that a user process cannot be get rid of?
[13:13] <gry> Oran: #Bumblebee ?
[13:13] <fasta> zykotick9: as in that it is a huge design flaw?
[13:14] <Oran> cause the troubleshooting   tells me to do this with
[13:14] <rebe> yup that was hardware acceleration
[13:14] <xendon> Hey, can someone help me to get my ALSA working ? got no sound at all on my minimal installation
[13:15] <rebe> does it mean that my graphic card is going to break soon ?
[13:15] <Oran> gry jeah iam in the bumblebee room ;)
[13:15] <zykotick9> rebe: no - it's a flash issue
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> xendon  open a terminal, type alsamixer, if you see MM (mute) , got there and press m
[13:15] <rebe> ok thanks for help
[13:15] <xendon> MonkeyDust its all unmutet .___.
[13:16] <fasta> zykotick9: ok, it seems that there is a way to get rid of them.
[13:16] <fasta> zykotick9: you can send some signal to signal the parents to get rid of their children which are in some state.
[13:17] <VirtualBlackness> Oran, which GPU do you want to use?
[13:17] <Oran> gt 540m
[13:17] <Oran> VirtualBlackness: i want to use the gt 540m from nvidia
[13:18] <VirtualBlackness> Oran: there are two gpus embedded. Do you want to use the intel, or the nvidia...
[13:18] <Oran> i want to use the nvidia
[13:18] <VirtualBlackness> Oran: If you want to enable the switching, then #bumblebee are the only ones who can help you.
[13:19] <Oran> VirtualBlackness:  i doesnt really need the switching , i would be finde if i could use the nvidia
[13:19] <Toph2> i', running xfce and my default sound control seems to be PulseAudio . I also have alsamixer installed. I often have audio problems with utube, etc. Are the 2 controls conflicting?
[13:19] <William_> after update today, I restart my laptab, some goes wrong, screen is very dark, and I try to use Xchat, when I press / it show +,
[13:20] <William_> a few other keys with wrong response
[13:21] <VirtualBlackness> Oran: The way Bumblebee works, basically, is that an ACPI switch is sent to turn one or the other off. One second while I find a document to try and help.
[13:21] <dontknow> what channel do you recommend for support gnome-do?
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> dontknow  try #ubuntu
[13:21] <Oran> VirtualBlackness: ok , thanks a lot
[13:23] <gry> ikonia: i got your message; as i wouldn't be likely to just switch to using 'route' instead of networkmanager, i would proceed by asking if you know any alternatives to networkmanager and cli to manage network connections?
[13:23] <miss_ubuntu_> oh thanks belgianguy it seems what i was looking for
[13:24] <gry> ikonia, if no non-cli alternatives i could just comment out everything in etc/entwork/interfaces and see if i can get that interface working in networkmanager
[13:24] <Oran> gry could u come around in the bumblebee room ?
[13:24] <William_> any one know about it, a lot of keys have wrong response
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> dontknow  try ##ubuntu-beginners
[13:26] <xendon> Can someone help me geting my ALSA working? got a Crystal Semi 3D Stereo Enhancement (Cirrus Logic CS4299) Card
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> !alsa| xendon
[13:28] <xendon> MonkeyDust ... allready read it ..
[13:32] <VirtualBlackness> Oran: apt-cache policy acpidump iasl | grep 'Installed'
[13:32] <Oran> VirtualBlackness:  copy paste it to my terminal ?
[13:32] <baotiao> hi guys. is there a tutorial about how a ubuntu connect to network?
[13:32] <VirtualBlackness> yes
[13:33] <Oran> VirtualBlackness: did it, but nothink happend
[13:33] <VirtualBlackness> did you perhaps copy the space in front of it or something Oran?
[13:34] <VirtualBlackness> not all of the characters?
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> baotiao:  you are looking for a  networking for begfinners guide? or looking for answers for a specific problem?
[13:36] <gre> hi
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> hello
[13:37] <uero> hi
[13:37] <VirtualBlackness> Stay in channel Oran.
[13:37] <VirtualBlackness> !pm | Oran
[13:37] <dontknow> could anyone tell me where gnome-do's index location is? i am looking for hours, please tell me!
[13:38] <vidyut> how to Generate the MD5 hash of the file ls (ls linux binary file)?
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> index of what dontknow ?
[13:38] <Toph2> i', running xfce and my default sound control seems to be PulseAudio . I also have alsamixer installed. I often have audio problems with utube, etc. Are the 2 controls conflicting?
[13:38] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, file and folder index
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> vidyut:  md5sum filename
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> dontknow:  its not using that  zetgeist thing is it?
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> dontknow  i guess there is no such thing as a gnome-do index file
[13:39] <impaktor> If I want to update to Skype 4.0 in 12.04, should I just download the deb from their homepage, and double click? Will this remove the old version?
[13:39] <vidyut> so what exactly i have to write in place of filename?
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> MonkeyDust:  ive never noticed the feature
[13:39] <vidyut> Dr_Willis: ^
[13:39] <dontknow> Dr_Willis, no, it uses its own index
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> vidyut:  psth to the file..
[13:39] <hop5uk> Can anyone help with commands in gnu grub
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> path..
[13:40] <vidyut> Dr_Willis: do you know path of ls ?
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> vidyut:  the 'which' command can show you...
[13:40] <gre> id like to write a book and im looking for a freeware i could install on linux (it would install a website interface like a DMS for example asking me User & password before enter) to read directly the word files i have sent by ftp (so a .doc viewer or kinda), any idea?
[13:40] <llutz> vidyut: md5sum $(which l)
[13:40] <llutz> vidyut: md5sum $(which ls)
[13:41] <vidyut> thanks :)
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> gre:  whats its suppoded to do with the word files?
[13:42] <gre> to display them directly without downloading
[13:42] <gre> or better, editing them directly on the website
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> you mean convert to html?
[13:42] <hop5uk> Anyone know how to remove a raid signature from a HDD
[13:42] <gre> right or display them with a pdf
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> you want a cloud office suite then?
[13:43] <gre> a "cloud office suite" maybe, i dunno it
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> gre  yes, there is such thing in ubuntu, moment, look it up
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> we dont really know either.. but perhaps check out that google docs stuff
[13:44] <gre> the way would be to send my .doc files on my ftp, then i could read my files from everywhere with no downloads
[13:44] <gre> ok Monkey, ty
[13:44] <vidyut> how to decrypt a file which is encrypted by a privtate key using a public key?
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> !info webservice-office-zoho | gre
[13:46] <gre> yeah i know "zoho" but its a provider :/ i mean... id like to install my own User interface, only for me on the web
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> gre  then try ramhost, but it's not free
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> http://www.ramhost.us/
[13:51] <Battlecat> Hi: I am feeling very frustrated right now. I am trying to figure out how to create or download a series of DVDs that would be used as an offline repo for computers that are not on a network or ever will be. Does anyone have any good ideas? I have done to much googling and its all just people copying the same articles that are outdated over and over.
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> Battlecat  what you can do: use a pc with internet, download the packages you need and use aptoncd (apt on cd) to create an iso, that you can copy to dvd's
[13:54] <eein> hi, im having issues with the command rename, if i have two files House-artist-track.mp3 and RnB-artist-track.mp3  raname 's/\House-//' works but rename 's/\RnB-//' does not
[13:57] <llutz> eein: why do you escape first char \H \R?
[13:57] <eein> llutz, yeah i guess i dont need to
[13:58] <iceroot> eein: you only need to escape special chars
[13:58] <eein> it works without it, i just copied from the man without looking
[13:58] <eein> why does it work on House though?
[13:58] <marrrk> I just installed Linux Mint but grub has not been updated. I booted in one of my two ubuntus and now I would like to fix grub such that linux mint shows up. Any hints?
[13:58] <iceroot> eein: doesnt matter why it is working, both are wrong
[13:59] <llutz> eein: \H has a special meaning  (non hex digit iirc)
[13:59] <eein> iceroot, i guess its just interesting that it does
[13:59] <eein> llutz, ahh that would make sense
[13:59] <llutz> eein: as iceroot said, only escape special chars.
[13:59] <eein> llutz, its still interesting that it removes the H as well though
[14:00] <eein> if the \H is not interpreted as a characte
[14:00] <iceroot> eein: your example will also match Gouse
[14:01] <iceroot> eein: because you are not searching for H
[14:01] <llutz> iceroot: i guess \House will match "any-char"ouse
[14:01] <iceroot> llutz: correct
[14:01] <llutz> like .ouse
[14:02] <eein> thanks thats really helpful, trying to learn all this stuff
[14:02] <eein> is there something that explains all those meanings like \H
[14:02] <llutz> eein: one list http://perldoc.perl.org/perlrebackslash.html
[14:03] <iceroot> eein: man egrep  and look at Character Classes and Bracket Expressions
[14:04] <eein> thanks iceroot and llutz thats really helpful
[14:04] <iceroot> eein: there are examples for the common usage of regular expressions
[14:05] <llutz> eein: see also http://www.regular-expressions.info/reference.html
[14:05] <iceroot> eein: ah as it seems rename is using perlexpr
[14:05] <iceroot> that sounds so evil... perlexpr....
[14:05] <llutz> iceroot: rename is just a simple perl-script
[14:05] <iceroot> llutz: nothing in perl is simple :)
[14:05] <llutz> hrhr
[14:06] <iceroot> the best encryption of all
[14:07] <theseus> does anyone know how to open the predefined software list again after an ubuntu server installation?
[14:09] <theseus> does anyone know how to open the predefined software list again after an ubuntu server installation?
[14:10] <blackgatocatnegr> Hi, desides games deb, what other places I should check for games on ubuntu?
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> theseus  try dpkg -l | grep ii
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> blackgatocatnegr  http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/games.html
[14:11] <sloceater> theseus, try typing tasksel in terminal
[14:11] <fourlastor> hello everyone :)
[14:11] <fourlastor> anyone tried this? http://subfictional.com/2011/10/19/logitech-wireless-touchpad-with-ubuntu/
[14:11] <blackgatocatnegr> Thank you, I had a few sites, but they haven't updated in ages, ubuntu does not have a distro specific for videogames, right?
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> blackgatocatnegr  maybe you could create one
[14:12] <blackgatocatnegr> MonkeyDust, why invent the wheel?
[14:13] <fidel> blackgatocatnegr: what would be special on such agame-specific distri?
[14:13] <fidel> basically not more then some pre-selected packages or am i wrong?
[14:13] <betinho> Hi people. My ubuntu is no longer supported but i need to run apt-get update without downloading error. What i need to do in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[14:13] <fidel> betinho: mention your current version and update to one which is still supported - in theory
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> betinho  better faster easier would be to backup and fresh install
[14:14] <sloceater> betinho, which version are you running
[14:14] <blackgatocatnegr> MonkeyDust,, if I had the time I would do a webpage to catalog and rank games made in python, make some sort of top ten, but that would be insane due to the very large amount of games.
[14:15] <betinho> Release:	10.10
[14:15] <betinho> Codename: maverick
[14:15] <fidel> betinho: so your way is either upgrading from10.10 to 11.04 to 11.10 to 12.04 (current lts) OR backup and do a fresh install
[14:15] <blackgatocatnegr> betinho, install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS in a different particion, updates tend to trip a lot of nasty bugs in my past experiences.
[14:15] <betinho> MonkeyDust, at the moment i don't want to upgrade ubuntu
[14:15] <riclas> hi guys. i just installed 12.04 32 bit on a quad-core opteron 6272 server, but /cpu/procinfo shows 8 CPUs of 4 cores each... it should be 4 CPUs 16 core each... what could be wrong? maybe i should have installed 64 bit version?
[14:16] <sloceater> betinho, So you just need some new program installed but the repo is down right?
[14:16] <blackgatocatnegr> betinho,, that way you will keep all your old programs, and you can gradually reinstall everything in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, is the safest option so far.
[14:17] <betinho> blackgatocatnegr, thanks a lot!
[14:18] <philinux> betinho: you need the old releases repo. http://www.warpconduit.net/2011/07/31/apt-repository-for-old-ubuntu-releases/
[14:18] <blackgatocatnegr> betinho, is what I do, saves trouble and work, would be better if you install the new distro in another hard disk, but is your pick.
[14:18] <SDX> Is it possible to create a permanent user on a LiveUSB with Ubuntu  on it?
[14:18] <DJones> !persistent | SDX
[14:19] <SDX> Thank you.  I wasn't sure what to call it.
[14:19] <SoMuch> some one help i try to install ubuntu 12.04 along side with windows 7
[14:20] <sloceater> SoMuch, what's the problem?
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> live setups can be quirky. ;0
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> SoMuch  if you have space left, the installer does it for you -- what goes wrong?
[14:20] <SoMuch> and when i go to advanced oartition option and choose specific partition it told me no botloader what i have to do
[14:20] <betinho> blackgatocatnegr: So using old releases as philinux said above is no safest?
[14:21] <blackgatocatnegr> fidel, it would mostly save time to manually install and or compile a lot of games yourself.
[14:22] <SoMuch> i clear 50 gb partition to install on it
[14:22] <blackgatocatnegr> betinho, nope, if you trigger a nasty bug, you are on your own if that version is unsoported, if you want to keep using an old version for a long time, try a LTS version.
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> SoMuch  my advice it to create separate /home and / partitions inside that 50GB
[14:23] <SoMuch> MonkeyDust how
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> SoMuch  you could use gparted (gui) or fdisk (cli)
[14:24] <SoMuch> please send me the steps it's my first time
[14:24] <philinux> betinho: I would also recommend a fresh install. But it's your choice
[14:24] <SoMuch> i need office 2010 for my master
[14:24] <shaneo> is anyone in here running artillery honeypot?
[14:24] <ezbbunk> SoMuch: remember to use a condom (sorry couldn't resist)
[14:24] <SoMuch> so i still need windows
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> you could pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l also to help    us
[14:25] <iceroot> SoMuch: you can use playonlinux to install ms office
[14:25] <SoMuch> ezbbunk okay funny anyway can anyone help
[14:25] <shaneo> im getting an smtp error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1042459/ and this is my config http://paste.ubuntu.com/1042461/
[14:25] <blackgatocatnegr> betinho, ubuntu 12.04 LTS is the latest LTS version. as I said make a new particion with it, (Or install it in another/second hard disk) so you can keep your old programs in the old partition, not everyone can compile (I always suck at it for example), and learning to use different programs and getting used to them takes time.
[14:25] <CR7XD> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[14:25] <iceroot> SoMuch: but for a master a usefull software should be used instead of a software which will make the thesis trash (layout). have a look at LaTeX
[14:26] <aljosa> "synclient RBCornerButton=3" (getting mouse right btn click when clicking in right/bottom touchpad) command has no effect. any idea why?
[14:26] <greenit> hi, i have a problem, my ubuntu does not recognize my wireless network card anymore... however, yesterday it still worked :S
[14:27] <sloceater> SoMuch, Or LyX. LaTeX With a somewhat nice gui. Of cource if you're requierd to use MS office 2010 then you'll need windows
[14:28] <blackgatocatnegr> greenit, try to reinstall the drivers, then reboot. if that does not work, do a complete removal of drivers (Including configuration files) Then do a fresh install with the latest (Stable) available driver versions
[14:28] <greenit> blackgatocatnegr, ok... but which drivers do i have to reinstall? i have a linksys network card
[14:29] <blackgatocatnegr> Dr_Willis, let the guy use gparted
[14:30] <SoMuch> no one told me why it said no bootloader when i try to install it on partition d:  i clear it just for it some one help me whith the steps i want to install it along side windows 7
[14:30] <theseus> does anyone know how to open the predefined software list again after an ubuntu server installation?
[14:31] <sloceater> theseus, try typing tasksel
[14:31] <Traumadog> Haven't been on here in a while, been pretty self sufficient, but I need help now and google isn't doing much good :(
[14:31] <blackgatocatnegr> blackgatocatnegr, in ubuntu sofware center under "installed" try to search for "linksys network card" if that does not work search for "wireless network card" or "Wifi"
[14:31] <vidyut> can anyone tell me how to decrypt a file using a public key?
[14:31] <Traumadog> Anyone here know much about Samba?
[14:31] <ezbbunk> vidyut: you can't
[14:31] <ezbbunk> public keys encrypt, private keys decrypt
[14:32] <ezbbunk> you might be able to bruteforce it - but g'luck w/ that
[14:32] <iceroot> Traumadog: #samba
[14:32] <theseus> sloceater : tasksel in terminal didn't do anything
[14:32] <Traumadog> thanks
[14:32] <iceroot> !samba | Traumadog
[14:32] <blackgatocatnegr> SoMuch, tried to install from the live cd? Is really helps to automate things, also, always install linux last.
[14:32] <saratoga> are there ready made VB images for ubuntu that are slimmed down to the min?  i need to setup an easy to download dev environment
[14:33] <sloceater> theseus, Command not found or what?... just nothing
[14:33] <blackgatocatnegr> vidyut, try the page where you got the file from, it usually has instructions
[14:33] <SoMuch> blackgatocatnegr i just download it yesterday and i made the live cd
[14:33] <jc_> can someone help me set up twinkle with my new SIP account info?
[14:33] <iceroot> saratoga: just install an own minimal image
[14:33] <theseus> sloceater : "taskel: command not found
[14:33] <theseus> "
[14:33] <saratoga> iceroot:   well i was hoping to have gnome
[14:33] <iceroot> theseus: tasksel
[14:33] <vidyut> but I read on net that even public key can be used for decryption when file is encypted  using private key?http://www.devco.net/archives/2006/02/13/public_-_private_key_encryption_using_openssl.php
[14:33] <iceroot> saratoga: then we have different opinions about a minimal system
[14:34] <theseus> iceroot: thanks, i just typed it wrong
[14:34] <GeeksOnHugs> the ring chart thing in the disk drive app analyzer is a pretty cool idea...when were ring charts invented, I've never seen em before...good information and they look cool too
[14:34] <iceroot> vidyut: you need the priavte key for that
[14:34] <blackgatocatnegr> SoMuch, just pick the option that says "Install with windows" or something like that.
[14:34] <saratoga> iceroot:  well not minimal, but as small as possible, the idea is to allow windows users to easy to compile our code
[14:34] <iceroot> saratoga: then install a system which fits your needs
[14:34] <saratoga> can you recommend one ?
[14:35] <ezbbunk> gentoo?
[14:35] <iceroot> saratoga: ubuntu 12.04
[14:35] <iceroot> saratoga: and if it should be small, use lubuntu 12.04
[14:35] <impaktor> If I want to update to Skype 4.0 in 12.04, should I just download the deb from their homepage, and double click? Will this remove the old version?
[14:35] <blackgatocatnegr>  saratoga, windows user and compile? better just make a live cd, unless you really want a windows port.
[14:35] <paul_uk> hey guys, running 12.04 64bit and I have to tell you.  I love this release, best so far!  Just one hickup trying to run an IDE and I keep on getting this error:  ./sublime_text: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory   What do I need to install to install this dependency?
[14:36] <saratoga> i'm using virtualbox actually
[14:36] <ezbbunk> paul_uk: probably libgtk-x11-2.0
[14:36] <ajir> i had black screen whwn installing ubuntu precise using UFD..
[14:36] <vidyut> iceroot: but i dont have private key what i have is a public key and a signature
[14:36] <blackgatocatnegr>  impaktor, better make a backup of the configuration files just in case, when upgrading, sometimes the older configuration files get deleted
[14:37] <iceroot> vidyut: then you can decrypt it
[14:37] <SDX> saratoga: There are other, smaller distros if you don't limit yourself to *buntu variations.
[14:37] <paul_uk> ezbbunk, yeah tried that.  can't locate any package with that name
[14:37] <vidyut> iceroot: how?
 look i do that but it want to install it on d: i made 50gb and i don't want ubunto to miss with hard drive till i fully understand it every time i choose d it told me no bootloader found
[14:37] <iceroot> vidyut: it would be totally stupid and useless if you can decrypt with a public key
[14:37] <GeeksOnHugs> hey speaking of ubuntu, is anyone familiar with ubuntu for android?  canonoical only talks with mobile manufacturerers for it and there are no downloads...how likely is it someone could rig their own ubuntu for android system?
[14:37] <vidyut> iceroot: but i need to
[14:37] <iceroot> vidyut: sorry i mean then you cant
[14:37] <iceroot> vidyut: doesnt matter if you need to, its not possiblre
[14:38] <impaktor> blackgatocatnegr: OK, so I shouldn't use synaptic/program central to install skype 4.0
[14:38] <impaktor> ?
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> impaktor  if you use skype 4, don't expect much support, as it is very new; you are then the one who tries it out
[14:38] <GeeksOnHugs> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[14:38] <blackgatocatnegr>  impaktor, actually, try to add a repository to synaptic/program first.
[14:38] <thenry> skype is what?
[14:38] <impaktor> MonkeyDust: so it's not a stable release?
[14:39] <iceroot> impaktor: ask microsoft
[14:39] <thenry> i wonder to know
[14:39] <iceroot> impaktor: we dont distribute skype 4.0
[14:39] <diluted> if i were to upgrade to 12.04 from 11.10 via do-release-upgrade, i'd have to reboot afterwards correct?
[14:39] <iceroot> diluted: yes
[14:39] <impaktor> thenry:  http://www.geek.com/articles/news/skype-4-0-for-linux-now-available-20120614
[14:39] <diluted> damn
[14:39] <galacticboy> Hi is it possible to install apps offline without using apt on cd?
[14:39] <impaktor> OK, thanks
[14:39] <iceroot> galacticboy: dpkg if you have the debfile
[14:39] <thenry> thanks
[14:39] <ezbbunk> galacticboy: copy the packages to a local respository?
[14:40] <bazhang> !offline | galacticboy
[14:40] <GeeksOnHugs> what about ubuntu on my arm mobile device? http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[14:40] <mbeierl> vidyut, the link you pasted shows encryption with public key, followed by decription with private.  Are you sure you are following the directions correctly?
[14:40] <diluted> would it hurt if i didnt reboot right away cause i got a nice uptime
[14:40] <diluted> dont really wanna lose my uptime lol
[14:40] <iceroot> diluted: then why upgrading?
[14:40] <blackgatocatnegr> diluted, yes, but just after that, do a massive update of 12.04 using update manager, or you will trigger some errors
[14:40] <paul_uk> impaktor: wow thanks, i didn't know I was running skype 2 which was installed from the packates.
[14:41] <iceroot> diluted: you will have a new dbus, libc6 and kernel and everything from that needs a reboot
[14:41] <diluted> oh ok
[14:41] <diluted> thank ya thank ya
[14:41] <vidyut> mbeierl: Please read this So by example if Person A want to send Person B data in a secure fashion she just have to encrypt it with Person B’s public key, only Person B can then open the file using her private key. There are other advantages to this kind of encryption. If I met you in person and gave you my public key, I can send you something electronically using my private key to encrypt it, if the public key you have can decrypt 
[14:41] <blackgatocatnegr> diluted, also you might wanna configure synaptic to only "Use LTS versions" as next version, 12.10 wont be a long term version.
[14:41] <galacticboy> Thank you guys! That way i can install any application?
[14:41] <thenry> skype cant apply to China
[14:41] <Traumadog> well nobody is answering in #samba
[14:41] <diluted> im in terminal mode on server blackgatocatnegr
[14:42] <tenX> vidyut: ?
[14:42] <impaktor> paul_uk: Interesting that even though they've released a new skype the download for ubuntu still says 10.10.
[14:42] <Traumadog> My problem is that Samba keeps making me lose my internet connection when I'm transferring files.
[14:42] <diluted> aka no x windows
[14:42] <GeeksOnHugs> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[14:42] <iceroot> diluted: is that a public server?
[14:42] <vidyut> tenX: sory didn't get you
[14:42] <Traumadog> Does anyone have any experience with Samba kicking them off their connection when transferring files?
[14:42] <diluted> no, privately used, privately kept
[14:43] <iceroot> diluted: good
[14:43] <diluted> its a server with no monitor/keyboard/mouse in my closet
[14:43] <diluted> but 09:35:33 up 240 days, 3:46, 1 user, load average: 0.22, 0.06, 0.06
[14:43] <mbeierl> vidyut, and so, did you try: openssl rsautl -decrypt -inkey public.key -in file.ssl -out decrypted.txt ?
[14:43] <iceroot> diluted: nice, 240 days, a lot of security issues
[14:43] <blackgatocatnegr> diluted, then just use the old sudo apt-get update after reboot
[14:43] <compdoc> Traumadog, is samba running on your firewall server or something?
[14:43] <tenX> vidyut: was only wondering about your encryption output
[14:43] <vidyut> mbeierl: yes,but it didn;t worked
[14:43] <diluted> ive been doing apt-get update & upgrades tho
[14:44] <diluted> so hopefully that helps
[14:44] <iceroot> diluted: no
[14:44] <Traumadog> I am running off a desktop and trying to reach it from my laptop from within the same network.
[14:44] <iceroot> diluted: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:44] <iceroot> diluted: that is the correct way to install security updates
[14:44] <blackgatocatnegr> diluted, it does but after install ubuntu 12.04 you have to update right away to prevent some nasty bugs.
[14:44] <iceroot> diluted: and that will NOT change the ubuntu version
[14:44] <Traumadog> is there a router setting that might be causing it?
[14:45] <iceroot> blackgatocatnegr: the release-upgrade will automaticly install the newest 12.04 release
[14:45] <mbeierl> vidyut, who did the encryption of the file?  I tried reversing the directions on that link you cited, but it doesn't work.
[14:45] <compdoc> Traumadog, look at the cpu usage while the files are transferred.
[14:45] <Traumadog> compdoc: ok let me recreate the issue, one moment.
[14:45] <blackgatocatnegr> iceroot, I know but after 12.04 release install, you have to update again, or you get errors.
[14:46] <vidyut> I don't know i just got it from git repo
[14:46] <vidyut> mbeierl: ^
[14:46] <greenit> i have a ralink 2800 network card, and since the update yesterday it does not work anymore.... it is not even listed when i enter "ifconfig" (as wlan0)... how can i get it working again? :(
[14:46] <iceroot> blackgatocatnegr: if that is the case, open a bug but i dont think that is happening
[14:47] <dontknow> where is the "recent documents" location?
[14:47] <blackgatocatnegr> iceroot, actually, it happened to me in 12.04 LTS, solved it after using updated manager
[14:47] <compdoc> Traumadog, how do you transfer the files? If you used rsycn, you can control how much cpu the transfer takes up
[14:48] <compdoc> rsync
[14:48] <SoMuch> blackgatocatnegr, look i do that but it want to install it on d: i made 50gb and i don't want ubunto to miss with hard drive till i fully understand it every time i choose d it told me no bootloader found
[14:49] <Traumadog> compdoc: well that happene quickly. The network just dropped almost the instant I started copying files. I have a screenshot of the cpu usage here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77181932/Screenshot.jpg
[14:49] <blackgatocatnegr> SoMuch, you are the one who wanted to install another linux distro or the one who wanted to install linux and keep windows 7? sorry I got confused -_-
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> SoMuch  linux does not use c: and d: , it uses partitions, that's parts of a hard disk
[14:49] <Traumadog> cpu usage seemed normal, if anything it dropped a little
[14:49] <dontknow> i disabled activity log with privacy app but it still shows recent documents when using a software selecting folder etc, how can i disable it permanently
[14:49] <mbeierl> vidyut, still looking.  gimme a few more minutes
[14:49] <vidyut> mbeierl: ok
[14:50] <compdoc> Traumadog, it looks normal up until the connection drops. you could have a hardware problem
[14:50] <SoMuch> the one who want to keep windpws 7
[14:50] <Traumadog> it only started occuring since I installed Samba, and only when using Samba. Nothing else is causing this effect.
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> SoMuch  windows is usually located on the partition /dev/sda1
[14:50] <compdoc> Traumadog, I have seen some netowrk cards that overheat when under a load
[14:51] <SoMuch> MonkeyDust, i see i choose the partition which has the same size as d
[14:51] <fourlastor> is there a way to make skype multiple instances with the version 4?
[14:51] <Traumadog> I don't think it's an over heating issue unless Samba is doing something very strange. I can FTP for hours without problems.
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> SoMuch  yes, that space must be divided in separate parts/partitions
[14:51] <compdoc> Traumadog, I use samba on many systems with many types of hardware, and by itself, samba doesnt cause that issue
[14:51] <Traumadog> got any other ideas?
[14:52] <Traumadog> Trust me, this is a Samba issue. I can google it and see it all over the net.
[14:52] <blackgatocatnegr> SoMuch,  if you want to install another linux distro (Yet keep the old one9 Just ignore the error mensage, install anyway, then boot the old distro in option 2 and update grub. To install linux and keep windows 7 using the the live cd, just pick option one, then select how much space you wanna give to the linux particion. Then keep doing the installation.
[14:52] <Traumadog> The reason I came here is that there was no real resolution online. So I guess it's just a mystery then. I'll have to find a different networking method.
[14:53] <blackgatocatnegr> , be sure to DO NOT FORMAT if you do now know what are you doing.
[14:53] <blackgatocatnegr> SoMuch, be sure to DO NOT FORMAT if you do now know what are you doing.
[14:54] <SoMuch> MonkeyDust, blackgatocatnegr,  so what i am gonna do i don't want ubuntu miss with my partition
[14:54] <kndavid> hi, I don't know what happened to my graphics but all of a sudden cairo dock doesnt work (it used to before) it wouldnt launch , any idea what could be the problem , am using natty
[14:54] <zahntron> hi, anyone have experience with the MacBook Air2011 and 12.04?
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> !mac| zahntron start here
[14:55] <mbeierl> vidyut, this is as close as I could get: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.openssl.user/43737 , which gives me the following command: openssl rsautl -pubin -verify -inkey public.pem -in encrypted.txt -out plaintext.txt but I get a block size mismatch as I don't know the original block size.  I think you need to check with the owner of the git repo.  Or at least the person who did the commit
[14:56] <blackgatocatnegr> zahntron, well, better option is dual boot, keep MAc OS somewhere, that way if something goes wrong with linux, you can still boot from MacOS.
[14:56] <zahntron> yeah i used that. i have a specific issue though. the disc times out and goes black when i navigate to install ubuntu
[14:56] <mbeierl> vidyut, you might also have better luck in #openssl.  Just be patient as there are not a lot of people there
[14:56] <zahntron> i have an external optical drive
[14:57] <vidyut> mbeierl: thanks :)
[14:57] <mbeierl> vidyut, for what I could offer, which doesn't work completely, you're welcome!
[14:57] <blackgatocatnegr> SoMuch, as I said install linux in the 50 Gb particion, then rebbot and update grub (option 2 in boot loader, then pick "update grub") that way you should be able to pick whate version of linux to boot at PC start.
[14:58] <NelsonM> Got a sec? What does "grep FSCKFIX /etc/default/rcS" say on your Ubuntu box? (Trying to figure out how to get my system to fsck in non-interactive mode at boot).
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> SoMuch  if you're not sure, then use the complete partition / d: to install ubuntu
[14:59] <blackgatocatnegr> zahntron, try the alternate install CD.
[14:59] <zahntron> I'm using the AMD/MAC
[15:00] <zahntron> CD
[15:00] <blackgatocatnegr> MonkeyDust, don't make the poor guy DELETE EVERYTHING, ok?
[15:00] <SoMuch> blackgatocatnegr, i am sorry but what you write is like puzzle to me i can't understand anything it's my first time to use ubuntu what is grub and how can i am gonna make ubuntu on this specific 50 gb
[15:00] <SoMuch> MonkeyDust, just tell me how i can do that
[15:01] <blackgatocatnegr> SoMuch, ok, you are trying to install linux and keep windows, yes?
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> SoMuch the space on d: , on that partition, is it empty?
[15:01] <vidyut> mbeierl: here it is openssl rsautl -verify -inkey public-key.pem -pubin < signed.dat
[15:01] <blackgatocatnegr> SoMuch, live cd option 1 should work for you.
[15:01] <SoMuch> yes for both of you
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> SoMuch  if it's empty space, you can use it -- i guess it's /dev/sdb or so
[15:03] <SoMuch> MonkeyDust, thats what i try to say every time i choose this option from the advanced partition it told me no boot loader
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> SoMuch  don't use the advanced settings, if you're not sure -- select the partition in the litlle drop down menu, top right
[15:04] <blackgatocatnegr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958059 *Ubuntu 12.04 beta2 issues with Ralink RT2800 PCI loses connection* See if that works for your problem with the Ralink RT2800 PCI  card.
[15:05] <vidyut> What is the CIA triad? What are the current methods available to ensure CIA?
[15:05] <bazhang> vidyut, hows that related to ubuntu
[15:05] <SoMuch> MonkeyDust, it's not active i try it
[15:05] <ace_me> should I be able to receive email after modifying aliases as root: mygmail@gmail.com without installing devcot pop3 and imap ?
[15:05] <SoMuch> thats why i ask
[15:05] <ace_me> dovecot*^
[15:06] <vidyut> bazhang: sory
[15:06] <sabayonuser_> i cannot get desktop cube effect in ubuntu 12.04
[15:06] <llutz> ace_me: if your mta uses /etc/aliases, yes
[15:06] <CokeAddict> !skype
[15:06] <iceroot> ace_me: only a MTA is needed
[15:07] <iceroot> ace_me: and every debian based distro is coming with an mta by default
[15:07] <ace_me> sendmail you mean ?
[15:07] <iceroot> ace_me: devcot pop3 and imap have nothing to do with sending mails
[15:08] <sabayonuser_> when i play a video in ubuntu it is tearing
[15:08] <wylde_> sabayonuser_: desktop cube does not play nice with unity. You need to be careful using ccsm in unity.
[15:08] <blackgatocatnegr> sabayonuser_, install propietary drivers
[15:08] <sabayonuser_> will it break unit y this desktop cube
[15:08] <iceroot> ace_me: for example sendmail or postfix
[15:08] <harrris> is there a google search lens for ubuntu 12.04
[15:09] <wylde_> sabayonuser_: it can, some other options will too.
[15:09] <sabayonuser_> i heard nvidia driver had problem did  they sort this issue
[15:09] <sabayonuser_> nvidia unity problem
[15:09] <iceroot> sabayonuser_: working fine here
[15:09] <ace_me> Postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu.
[15:09] <wylde_> sabayonuser_: fine here as well.
[15:10] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone
[15:10] <sabayonuser_> hey ppl i have a strange problem unity is consuming too much memory gnome sheell is less resource hungry ??
[15:10] <blackgatocatnegr> sabayonuser_, as a general rule, flash and video problems with ubuntu are solved by installing the proprietary drivers instead of using the genetic ones. If you wanna keep using the generic ones, you will need a compatible video card.
[15:10] <sabayonuser_> kk
[15:10] <llutz> ace_me: and postfix won't use /etc/aliases. you have to generate aliases.db /sudo newaliases/
[15:11] <sabayonuser_> unity is taking 1 gb of ram i have 2 gb :O
[15:11] <sabayonuser_> gnome shell takes 326 mb
[15:11] <iceroot> sabayonuser_: its not
[15:11] <SDX> Can I use the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator to install Puppy Linux to a USB drive?
[15:11] <iceroot> sabayonuser_: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[15:12] <mbeierl> vidyut, good find!
[15:12] <sabayonuser_> unity was taking 600 mb when i first installed it after few update s it is taking nearly 1 gb ram :O
[15:12] <iceroot> sabayonuser_: and i am telling you its not using 1gb
[15:12] <Zoohouse> sabayonuser_: If you turn off all the special effects, unity would consume less resources. That said, GNOME can be more, equal, or less resources hungry than Unity depending on all the extra effects stuff you have on it.
[15:12] <sabayonuser_> but i have everything closed
[15:12] <vidyut> mbeierl: also read http://anandopaul.wordpress.com/2010/04/13/openssl-public-key-cryptography/
[15:12] <blackgatocatnegr> *Before asking about installing Ubuntu, please read this* https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[15:13] <iceroot> sabayonuser_: can you just read the link i have posted?
[15:13] <SDX> I have to find some other way to use that picture.
[15:13] <sabayonuser_> is this compiz old one?
[15:13] <sabayonuser_> cheers for the link :D
[15:13] <paul_uk> hey all, just installed the new skype.  But I can't see the skype icon in the notifications panel, so I can't click on options.  How do I get this back?
[15:14] <SDX> Relaunch Skype?
[15:14] <sabayonuser_> compiz is cool but still it is a bit buggy ;p
[15:14] <blackgatocatnegr> sabayonuser_, use a lighter GUI, lubuntu and or LXDE  is recomended, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LXDE
[15:14] <paul_uk> SDX: you'd think right? no
[15:14] <SDX> Huh.
[15:14] <sabayonuser_> noo i lubuntu is very bad
[15:14] <sabayonuser_> i am fine with this lts release
[15:15] <paul_uk> SDX: rebooted and launched twice and re-installed a couple of times.  Nada
[15:15] <glitsj16> paul_uk: a fix is actually in the Skype README
[15:15] <SDX> sabayonuser_: Xubuntu/Xfce is like the lightweight child of LXDE and Gnome.  You could try that.
[15:15] <iceroot> sabayonuser_: most of the packages from lubuntu are also lts
[15:15] <blackgatocatnegr> sabayonuser_, try https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu and Xfce  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfce. Xfce is what I am using.
[15:15] <wylde_> sabayonuser_: all 12.04 *buntus are lts...the difference is the desktop. That's it.
[15:15] <iceroot> SDX: lxde is the lightweight child of xfce4
[15:15] <iceroot> wylde_: no
[15:16] <sabayonuser_> i may install zubuntu desktop later :D
[15:16] <iceroot> wylde_: lubuntu 12.04 is no lts release
[15:16] <SDX> Really?  I thought the opposite.
[15:16] <wylde_> iceroot: ahh alrighty.
[15:16] <iceroot> SDX: no
[15:17] <paul_uk> glitsj16, thanks for that
[15:18] <glitsj16> paul_uk: you're welcome, it has good instructions, and it could solve other issues you might encounter
[15:19] <blackgatocatnegr> sabayonuser_, see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu
[15:19] <sabayonuser_> hehe thanks cheers again :D
[15:21] <greenit> it seems that the driver rt2860sta is not installed in my kernel (sudo modprobe rt2860sta         says          FATAL: Module rt2860sta not found.)... how can i install that module again? i dont know why it is no more here, but it was yesterday
[15:22] <blackgatocatnegr> greenit, try looking at the manufactured web site, sometimes they have drivers for ubuntu, also try to look if the driver wasn't simply upgraded to a newer version.
[15:24] <GDI> anyone notice some bugs with pidgin using ubuntu 12.04 lts and unity? contact list suddenly appears in other workspace or moves out of screen
[15:25] <blackgatocatnegr> GDI, have you tried to update pidgin first? also make sure the specific unity pidgin packages are installed.
[15:25] <eutheria> there is a ppa with a version of unity that you can force to always show the global menu, damn i am one happy bunny i dont' have to hunt for menu options
[15:26] <greywalk> hi. the theme controls the app icons that are displayed say in tray, correct?
[15:26] <HoNgOuRu> hi, how can I set dhcp server to listen on wlan0 device?
[15:26] <GDI> blackgatocatnegr: yes, i've the lastest version of pidgin, but i didn't know about the packages for unity, gonna check that, thanks
[15:26] <HoNgOuRu> I configured all but Im having that problem now
[15:27] <blackgatocatnegr> greywalk, please say what version of ubuntu you are using, and what GUI/desktop environment, it really helps, thank you.
[15:27] <greywalk> blackgatocatnegr: kubuntu 12.04
[15:28] <Jon--> My mouse pointer is a vertical bar of a few pixels suddenly. How do I fix?
[15:29] <blackgatocatnegr> blackgatocatnegr:, I will asume you are using KDE, please go to #kubuntu  for KDE questions
[15:30] <greywalk> blackgatocatnegr: alright )
[15:32] <Jon--> No one knows hmm? It's really annoying. About 20 little pixel dots, about 2-3 times larger vertically than my typical mouse pointer. I assume restarting X will fix it, I don't want to do that if I don't have to. Odd bug.
[15:32] <greywalk> Jon--, logout or reboot
[15:33] <greywalk> Jon--, this happened to me as well. especially on kubuntu 11.10
[15:33] <OerHeks> Jon--, try reset the monitor, that used to work for me.
[15:33] <Jon--> greywalk, Sounds like how you fix a Windows issue.
[15:33] <iceroot> Jon--: try  to change the mouse pointer theme
[15:33] <Jon--> Oh what the hell, it just came back.
[15:33] <TheLynx> hi
[15:33] <Jon--> I didn't do anything.
[15:33] <Jon--> . . . -_-
[15:33] <fwiss> Hey guys, I have a problem with KDE's volume mixer. Namely, there isn't one right now. Is it possible to use Ubuntu's standard GNOME volume mixer on KDE?
[15:33] <blackgatocatnegr> Jon--, please be more specific, please say what version of ubuntu you are using, and what GUI/desktop environment and if you have installed the propietary drivers or not.
[15:34] <greywalk> Jon--, yes it does. it also means crappy pointer integration in ubuntu
[15:34] <L3top> fwiss: ps aux | grep kmix | grep -v grep
[15:34] <greywalk> Jon--, and also means you brain couldn't come up with at least a window-ish solution. sorry but your previous statement deserves this one.
[15:35] <blackgatocatnegr> fwiss, yes, it will probably install some GNOME packages as well, like when you use  in Totem, but it should work.
[15:35] <Jon--> greyfox, ctrl+alt+printscreen+k would fix my issue. That's not the point.
[15:35] <Jon--> Kids, don't do this ^.
[15:35] <iceroot> !danger
[15:35] <iceroot> Jon--: dont post that here
[15:36] <L3top> Jon--: While we are piling on, 2 minutes is not a reasonable amount of time to complain that nobody is helping you.
[15:36] <dontknow> i have an applet.js file, it shows recent documents, also clear the recent document. could anyone tell me what directory or what file clears looking at source? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1042537/
[15:36] <dannel> what am i doing here i dont help anybody. ever.
[15:36] <Jon--> iceroot, I said "don't do this" right afterwards.
[15:37] <Jon--> That's the new command to restart the X server.
[15:37] <Jon--> L3top, I enjoyed having everyone gang up on me. Can I smoke a cigarette now?
[15:37] <fwiss> Nothing happens when I use L3top's command.
[15:37] <iceroot> Jon--: then dont post something when you have to say "dont use that"
[15:37] <iceroot> Jon--: that is not the command to restart the x-server
[15:37] <blackgatocatnegr> Jon--, this is not a channel for jokes, we have #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[15:37] <iceroot> Jon--: that command has nothing to do with x11
[15:37] <HoNgOuRu> hi, how can I set dhcp server to listen on wlan0 device?
[15:37] <L3top> fwiss: type /usr/bin/kmix
[15:38] <fwiss> I don't think I have it/
[15:39] <fwiss> Guess I should just install kmix
[15:39] <fwiss> ?
[15:39] <Jon--> iceroot, That doesn't kill the X server?
[15:39] <L3top> dhcp doesn't listen, it brodcasts HoNgOuRu. Check your /etc/dhcp3/dhcp.conf
[15:39] <Jon--> I thought they replaced ctrl+alt+backspace with that upstream.
[15:39] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[15:39] <L3top> yes fwiss... that was coming next :)
[15:39] <iceroot> Jon--: it will kill much more then just x11
[15:39] <iceroot> Jon--: your command is a kernel command
[15:39] <Jon--> Kills all processes in userspace?
[15:39] <ikonia> it's the sysrq magic key sequence
[15:39] <iceroot> Jon--: called magic syskey requests
[15:40] <iceroot> or like that.. :)
[15:40] <Jon--> iceroot, thanks, I got the relevant wiki now. Why did Ubuntu remove ctrl+alt+backspace?
[15:40] <llutz> iceroot: its the recommended way to stop a hanging x-server since 9.04, published here and everywhere else
[15:40] <ikonia> Jon--: ubuntu didn't
[15:40] <iceroot> Jon--: because itsa evil
[15:40] <ikonia> !nozap
[15:40] <Jon--> There used to be an option to enable it in keyboard settings, and it just killed x. Was it removed upstream?
[15:40] <ikonia> !dontzap
[15:41] <iceroot> llutz: x11 is not hanging in that case
[15:41] <blackgatocatnegr>  Jon--, because of abuse
[15:41] <HoNgOuRu> L3top, I get "Not configured to listen on any interfaces!" so it listens
[15:41] <HoNgOuRu> L3top, help me out here
[15:41] <Jon--> blackgatocatnegr, Doesn't make much sense to me, it was disabled by default back in 9.04 if I recall, or a bit earlier.
[15:42] <iceroot> llutz: Kill all processes on the current virtual console (Can be used to kill X and svgalib programs, see below)
[15:42] <llutz> iceroot: i know what sysrq-k does
[15:42] <iceroot> llutz: and its bad because killing x means also killing all programs the hard way
[15:42] <OerHeks> Jon--, now you can use Alt + PrintScreen + K
[15:42] <iceroot> llutz: the same discussion as kill or kill -9
[15:43] <blackgatocatnegr> Jon--, what is removed or not is always cause of arguing, thats why we have LTS versions, so people can keep using the same stuff for years.
[15:43] <wunz> is there any newbie guide to ubuntu/linux? i installed Ubuntu 12.04 last night and seems i'm dumb, can't find where all the applications are, etc.
[15:43] <fwiss> Thanks, guys
[15:43] <ikonia> wunz: https://help.ubuntu.com
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> wunz  the way to learn, is by using it
[15:43] <bazhang> !manual | wunz
[15:43] <wunz> thanks ikonia
[15:44] <wunz> MonkeyDust: i'm using it but can't seem to find anything
[15:44] <bazhang> !rute | wunz and this
[15:44] <wunz> i don't even know where terminal is
[15:44] <blackbear008> linux MINT13
[15:44] <ikonia> blackbear008: what about it ?
[15:44] <blackbear008> any one using this?
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> !mint| blackbear008
[15:44] <ikonia> blackbear008: the people in the mint support channels are
[15:44] <schnuffle1> blackbear008: its offtopic but im using it
[15:44] <blackgatocatnegr> We should really really add a FAQ to the links listed on the topic, if we don't have already.
[15:45] <OerHeks> blackbear008, better not.
[15:45] <blackbear008> some on told me LINUX mint13 is a distribution from UBUNTU
[15:45] <blackgatocatnegr> or better yet, have a bot that pms you the most useful links when you join this channel
[15:45] <ikonia> blackbear008: no it's not
[15:46] <iceroot> blackgatocatnegr: and ubuntu is a distribution from debian
[15:46] <Daekdroom> It's a distribution DERIVED from Ubuntu.
[15:46] <iceroot> blackgatocatnegr: based on is maybe the better word
[15:46] <Daekdroom> The same way Ubuntu is derived from Debian.
[15:46] <Meridious> blackbear008: mint and ubuntu have alot in common
[15:46] <blackgatocatnegr> blackbear008, please, to to keep friendly, "based on"  is not the same as a "distribution from"
[15:46] <VGoff> Don't know why it was marked DANGEROUS as it doesn't cause injury to equipment or loss of data, it simply restarts the X server.  Warning, but not DANGEROUS.  not like a command that will format your drive.
[15:47] <iceroot> VGoff: you lose your work for example
[15:47] <blackbear008> I see ,blackgatocatnegr
[15:47] <iceroot> VGoff: if someone here is just executing it and dont know what it is doing
[15:47] <VGoff> True.  But it is not dangerous.  Not like some commands that historically could send high frequency to a monitor and damage your display.
[15:47] <VGoff> But don't be an alarmist.
[15:48] <iceroot> VGoff: we dont want such commands here
[15:48] <VGoff> Of course you do, you want to educate the users of what commands are available... with the caveat that if they do such a thing to please be aware.
[15:48] <iceroot> VGoff: and if there is something like that posted its always recoomend to write what they are doing
[15:48] <VGoff> Exactly.
[15:48] <oCean> let's move on, ok?
[15:48] <VGoff> I just wanted to state that it is something that can be useful and in the proper context.
[15:49] <iceroot> VGoff: you have a support question?
[15:49] <gdane> hi
[15:49] <blackbear008> hi
[15:49] <gdane> i have a problem
[15:49] <gdane> i had 18 mb free space
[15:49] <gdane> but then ill free it
[15:49] <schnuffle1> VGoff: I think its better suited to be duscussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:49] <VGoff> Sure... if I must state the comment in the form of a question... why would you unduly alarm the folks that are trying to get honest help here by trying to scare them into thinking that something is dangerous?
[15:50] <bazhang> VGoff, lets move on
[15:50] <oCean> stop the bickering. Now
[15:50] <gdane> when i tried to cut and paste my files to other disk my disk went into readonly status
[15:50] <iceroot> VGoff: because writing down commands here which will kill all your unsafed work are dangerous. end of discussion
[15:50] <VGoff> Right, I was ready to, until someone asked me to ask a question.  I am done with it.  Just made my statement and wanted my view heard.  It has been, and that is fine.
[15:51]  * Sidewinder1 Is moving on..
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> gdane  I have that too, with my remote external disk... drag and copy works
[15:51] <gdane> when i do reboot it says : mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/c7.... /root faild
[15:51] <bazhang> gdane, copy and paste is not the way to move files, perhaps you mean drag and drop
[15:51] <gdane> invalid argument
[15:51] <gdane> yeah drag and drop
[15:51] <gdane> sorry
[15:51] <honney> hi
[15:51] <gdane> my system is ubuntu linux/gnu 12.04 lts
[15:52] <honney> hi
[15:52] <gdane> i sit at busybox now
[15:52] <schnuffle1> !anyone | honney
[15:53] <schnuffle1> gdane: so your system fails to mount the root partition during boot?
[15:53] <honney> comment registreer
[15:53] <gdane> yes
[15:53] <schnuffle1> gdane: how did it happen?
[15:53] <bazhang> honney, join #freenode
[15:54] <honney> et apres
[15:54] <bazhang> honney, ask there
[15:54] <honney> lol
[15:54] <honney> je peux poser une question??
[15:54] <Sidewinder1> Why, when I mount an ext. HD through Places do multiple versions/instances of Nautilus (usually just two, thank the deities) open? 10.04 Desktop; it only happens occasionally and is not a major problem. I was just curious if I am the only one that experiences this phenomenon.
[15:54] <oCean> !fr | honney
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[15:54] <bazhang> honney, in english
[15:54] <schnuffle1> !fr | honney
[15:55] <honney> my english es very bad :(
[15:55] <honney> i preferer is hrer
[15:55] <honney> here
[15:55] <koskoz> commence à apprendre l'anglais alors
[15:55] <honney> lol
[15:55] <schnuffle1> honney: alors utilise le channal francias avec /join #ubuntu-fr
[15:55] <honney> i learn is here
[15:56] <honney> je vais essayer
[15:56] <honney> merci
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> honney  not here, try #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to learn
[15:56] <koskoz> or try to go in class :o
[15:57] <blackgatocatnegr> honney, ubuntu has suport forums in many languages, try there first.
[15:57] <honney> thanks
[15:57] <honney> i know
[15:58] <gdane> shnuffle1 i posted here my problem
[15:58] <gdane> but u didnt see it, i think
[15:58] <schnuffle1> gdane: So you cleaned your disk and now it can't be mounted anaymore? Have you tried to boot from live system and mount it there?
[15:58] <belgianguy> any favourite html editors in Ubuntu?
[15:58] <belgianguy> I bet there are tons
[15:58] <vincenzoml_> Hi there, I am unsure if I just typed the same message as empathy is misbehaving, however, I can't use apache+php5 in a directory symlinked from my public_html, although I can use it in my public_html
[15:58] <funkyHat> So in 11.10 shutting the lid and then pulling the plug out would make it suspend, but in 12.04 this doesn't seem to work. I have a vague memory of there being an option like "should the power manager check the state of the lid when it detects the power cord is removed", but I can't find it
[15:59] <schnuffle1> gdane: I did, but wasn't really interested in the problem because there's not enough info right now
[15:59] <fmaf> hi! anyone knows how to config geany dir ~/.config/geany/?
[15:59] <bazhang> !html | belgianguy
[16:00] <schnuffle1> belgianguy: fedit
[16:00] <schnuffle1> gedit
[16:00] <belgianguy> schnuffle1: I'm using gedit atm
[16:00] <belgianguy> but it lacks some features
[16:00] <schnuffle1> belgianguy: installed the plugins?
[16:00] <belgianguy> schnuffle1: eh? :$
[16:01] <mneptok> belgianguy: please don't !poll and ask for favorites. tell us what you need from an editor/environment.
[16:01]  * belgianguy is about to learn something
[16:01] <gdane> i didnt try to use live cd
[16:01] <blackgatocatnegr> fmaf, almost any simple notepad-like text editor  works.
[16:01] <schnuffle1> belgianguy: gedit has plugins for syntx highlight .......
[16:01] <gdane> to mount
[16:01] <schnuffle1> gdane: then try it to see if the partition is alright
[16:01] <gdane> i rebooted my pc and it cant mount rootfs
[16:01] <blackgatocatnegr> fmaf, but you NEED TO KNOW, what you are doing.
[16:01] <schnuffle1> gdane: How did you clean your partition
[16:02] <belgianguy> I'm writing a html and javascript app, and was wondering if there is a full featured ide for making websites
[16:02] <gdane> first of all i delete all files
[16:02] <gdane> which i no need any more
[16:02] <mneptok> belgianguy: do you use Linux exclusively?
[16:02] <gdane> then i drag and drop other files to my backup disk
[16:02] <blackbear008> belgianguy: Eclipse
[16:02] <belgianguy> mneptok: no, I do try to use both
[16:03] <belgianguy> Windows and Ubuntu
[16:03] <mneptok> belgianguy: both Linux and ....
[16:03] <Sonderblade> is the package w64codecs required/useful on ubuntu precision?
[16:03] <mneptok> belgianguy: alright, so something that works in both so you do not need to relearn on each platform would be ideal. yes?
[16:03] <gdane> when i droped my files to that disk it had an error - this is readonly disk
[16:03] <belgianguy> blackbear008: right, now you mention it, I used to do php in Eclipse
[16:03] <schnuffle1> gdane: So you cleand your hone dir only?
[16:03] <belgianguy> mneptok: right
[16:03] <schnuffle1> home dir
[16:04] <gdane> may be its because my disk has no more free space
[16:04] <mneptok> belgianguy: do you need WYSIWG HTML editing?
[16:04] <gdane> i cleaned documents and downloads
[16:04] <gdane> dirs
[16:04] <belgianguy> mneptok: no :) I'm a coder
[16:04] <schnuffle1> gdane: To check all this boot into a live system and then we can see where the roblem is
[16:04] <VGoff> belgianguy, if you want an editor that will work on both and will act as a full featured IDE, you could use vim or gvim.
[16:04] <mneptok> belgianguy: i.e. can you wite HTML and Javascript, and just need tree views and such.
[16:05] <belgianguy> mneptok: yeah
[16:05] <mneptok> belgianguy: look at jEdit before Eclipse, IMO.
[16:05] <mneptok> belgianguy: works everywhere, is packaged for Ubuntu. be sure to look at the Plugin Manager when you first run the app.
[16:05] <mneptok> belgianguy: http://jedit.org/
[16:05] <mneptok> !info jedit
[16:06] <belgianguy> thanks mneptok and all, I'll go and check those out
[16:06] <B0g4r7> Yeah, I like Eclipse myself.
[16:06] <B0g4r7> It's rather heavyweight, but it does a lot.
[16:06] <blackgatocatnegr> belgianguy, there any many editors you could use, heck most of the time I use libre office and gedit for quick edits.
[16:07] <mneptok> belgianguy: Eclipse is the machete. jEdit the pocket knife. both are sharp.
[16:07] <tenX> blackgatocatnegr: libreoffice?
[16:08] <blackgatocatnegr> belgianguy,  basically try anything that apears on ubuntu software center when you type "Html editor" and just pick one.
[16:08] <blackgatocatnegr> belgianguy, libreoffice to just make an html page quick, then gedit for details.
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  kompozer is nice but not nearly as advanced as dreamweaver
[16:09] <mneptok> blackgatocatnegr: your advice fails to take into account the desirability of cross-platform use.
[16:09] <Kircle> I want to make a clone of my usb's files as well as it's partitions so if it gets corrupted or I want to use a different device I can. How can I do this? dd?
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> !clone
[16:09] <mneptok> Kircle: exactly right.
[16:10] <schnuffle1> !partimage
[16:10] <Kircle> mneptok will it create a img file?
[16:10] <blackgatocatnegr> mneptok, libre office is available for a lot of Os, gedit can be easily replaced with a lot of text editors, and this is an ubuntu channel, so ubuntu answers take priority.
[16:10] <schnuffle1> Kircle: There also tools like clonezilla or partimage
[16:10] <belgianguy> I want something lean and mean, and not the WYSIWYG, I write each letter of code myself ;)
[16:10] <mneptok> Kircle: it will create what you specify in of=
[16:11] <belgianguy> so I'm leaning towards the vim solution, or gedit with plugins, perhaps Eclipse if dynamic languages come into play
[16:11] <belgianguy> (I already use Eclipse for Android dev)
[16:11] <chu> haha, dare I say gnu emacs?
[16:11] <mneptok> belgianguy: no gEdit on Windows.
[16:11] <Sidewinder1> I guess I'm the only one experiencing this..
[16:11] <belgianguy> mneptok: I have Notepad++ there
[16:12] <blackgatocatnegr> belgianguy, define clean, I know guys who write their code in leafpad, basically it will take some trial an error to find the programs you are most confortable with.
[16:12] <Sidewinder1> Why, when I mount an ext. HD through Places do multiple versions/instances of Nautilus (usually just two, thank the deities) open? 10.04 Desktop; it only happens occasionally and is not a major problem. I was just curious if I am the only one that experiences this phenomenon.
[16:12] <mneptok> belgianguy: seriously, look ay jEdit. then ditch Notepad++ on Windows in its favor.
[16:12] <mneptok> belgianguy: *at
[16:13] <mneptok> belgianguy: and especially if you're doing Java API development as it is (on Android).
[16:14] <belgianguy> mneptok: oh, that would be interesting
[16:14] <blackgatocatnegr> belgianguy, on windows I prefer metapad for some things, I wonder if it works in vista and seven.  Your question is very subjective, I recommended you try several editors, preferable those that are cross-platform, and keep the ones you like.
[16:15] <mneptok> belgianguy: there is a Windows installer. on *Ubuntu, 'sudo apt-get install jedit"
[16:16] <blackgatocatnegr> belgianguy, read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_HTML_editors and just pick the ones that fit your needs best.
[16:16] <aslan> Hi, I want the basic package info for developing liux from scratch, but I cant understand.
[16:17] <bazhang> aslan, try the lfs channel
[16:17] <bazhang> !alis | aslan search using this
[16:17] <ikonia> aslan: it's #lfs-support
[16:20] <deewakar> admin
[16:28] <witten1> with upstart, how do I restart/start a job regardless of whether it's currently running?
[16:28] <witten1> /sbin/stop and /sbin/restart both error if the process isn't already running
[16:28] <lab13> hi
[16:28] <lab13> hi
[16:28] <lab13> hi
[16:28] <FloodBot1> lab13: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:29] <rootkit> written: try: /etc/init.d/<service> restart
[16:29] <witten1> rootkit: this is using upstart, not initd
[16:29] <witten1> rootkit: initd-style init scripts don't exist
[16:30] <rootkit> Ah. Sorry, I didn't ready that properly. As for upstart, I have no idea.
[16:30] <witten1> thanks anyway :)
[16:31] <zamba> how do i set preferred applications in 12.04? i'm using gnome classic
[16:31] <brodro_> So, I have a bit of an extremely annoying problem. if anyone could help i'd appreciate. This is probably a total newbie problem but I have downloaded adobe flash like 10000000 times and I have no clue how to upgrade the thing D:::::::::::::::::
[16:32] <brodro_> and also, the plug-in doesn't even appear in my list of plug-ins for firefox
[16:32] <brodro_> dafuq
[16:32] <glitsj16> witten1: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ is loaded with info
[16:33] <i7c> brodro_: why don't you use the "flashplugin-installer" package?
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> brodro_  what i7c says, find flashplugin-installer in the software center or use sudo apt-get
[16:34] <witten1> glitsj16: thanks
[16:35] <aslan> #lfs-support
[16:36] <dontknow> i completely removed zeitgeist, but recent documents are still storing in ~/.local/share/recently-used.xbel. How can i disble this, because gnome-go logging recent documents by using it and gives me duplicate files after search
[16:37] <dontknow> *gnome-do
[16:37] <dontknow> i am not talking about removing it's content, i am talking about completely disable
[16:38] <maurizio> Hi, I need help finding a good query to solve my issue. I am not sure if my HDD is set up correctly since for every action I do (open a tab, start a text editor) the HDD clicks a lot, like it doesn't use any kind of cache for anything.
[16:38] <i7c> dontknow: btw, can i just delete the file or will it harm the system?
[16:38] <maurizio> Worse is that I'm trying to add 1000 data to a mysql db and it's like hearing a formatting hdd
[16:39] <maurizio> 1000 = 1000000
[16:39] <dontknow> i7c, you can delete file, but after that it will create new one
[16:39] <i7c> dontknow: i see, thank you.
[16:39] <glitsj16> dontknow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1678004 has a few tips you might try
[16:40] <dontknow> glitsj16, will look at now
[16:41] <srini> Hi root
[16:41] <schnuffle1> maurizio: check syslog and dmesg perhaps your HDD is dying
[16:41] <srini> I am looking for help on Ocropus!
[16:42] <maurizio> schnuffle1,  good point. I'm checking now, though i suspect that's not the problem (windows doesn't suffer that)
[16:42] <srini> I am trying to compile the sources, but stuck in the configure because of the tesseract not found! It is installed in /usr/local, but --with-tesseract=/usr/local is still not helping!
[16:45] <schnuffle1> srini: http://code.google.com/p/ocropus/wiki/InstallTranscript states a different way to compile
[16:45] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizi, try  reset the default the bios, also your  hard disk might be faulty.
[16:45] <genii-around> !info ocropus
[16:45] <genii-around> Hm
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> !info ocrodjvu
[16:46] <maurizio> schnuffle1, nothing. Btw, I've read somewhere that it depends from the fs. ext3/4 do write sparsely and not contigous like ntfs.. sound strange to me.
[16:46] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, as  general rule, when you hard disk starts to make strange noises, backup everything.
[16:47] <Ca11um> Hey guys.
[16:47] <dontknow> glitsj16, look like sudo chattr +i worked, thanks
[16:47] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, to be honest it did the same with the old working hd. I am now worried because I have to do the 100000 inserts on a mysql db
[16:47] <Ca11um> When it comes to running various services on a Linux server, should you typically use screens?
[16:47] <glitsj16> dontknow: nice, one less thing, you're welcome
[16:47] <Ca11um> Or do you setup a new user for every process, or what
[16:47] <Ca11um> ?
[16:48] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizi, as  general rule, when you hard disk starts to make strange noises, backup everything. then try a live cd that has disk cheeking tools, if your hdd has errors that cannot be fixed, I recomend getting a new one.
[16:48] <dontknow> glitsj16, i was looking for different ways but permission did it :D
[16:48] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, what gui/ are you using? and Hardware? Is a laptop? your motherboard/bios might be to table.
[16:48] <blackgatocatnegr> *blame
[16:50] <maurizio> ubuntu 12.04/ mb Asus P5K with a Sata HD
[16:50] <maurizio> don't know how to check my bios version without rebooting
[16:51] <maurizio> i suppose if the bios is to blame, I should read something on dmesg, like if it's not using the hdd's internal cache
[16:51] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, try to reset the bios settings to default, check the cables, try booting with a more lightweight gui, add more ram, have the motherboard cheeked. thats all the solutions I can think off.
[16:51] <maurizio> (which sounds weird/impossible)
[16:52] <kensama> salut
[16:52] <nothingmuch> i'm using a texlive installation in /usr/local and I'd like to install texmaker (tex IDE) without the system texlive (because it's very old and I don't want to accidentally get confused between the two versions) and it's not a real dependency (i.e. no linkage of libraries, in theory you can use texmaker to edit .tex files without ever compiling)
[16:52] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, bad bios settings might not trigger error mensages, check the list of process your Os is running, maybe some background process are to blame, what version of Ubuntu are you using? With what gui/ desktop environment?
[16:52] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, i will thx.  any idea how do i search for solutions on google? sounds stupid, i know, but I was using "hdd clicking noise ubuntu" and it's not enough.
[16:53] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, Ubuntu 12.04 stock. I just moved the windows buttons to the right and moved back the menu to the window (like everyone should do :) )
[16:53] <kensama> je voudrais avoir de l'aide svp
[16:53] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, open gparted, see if you have a linux swap in any of the harddisks, if you don't, make one about 5% 10% size of the hard disk.
[16:54] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, have it. 1gb. while I have 4gb of ram.
[16:55] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, actually 2gb swap
[16:55] <maurizio> Mem:   2061228k total,  1870092k used,   191136k free,    22272k buffers
[16:55] <maurizio> Swap:  2095100k total,   259344k used,  1835756k free,   271292k cached
[16:55] <SkippersBoss> !fr|kensama
[16:56] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, ok, reset your bios to default, try another GUI besides unity, (like Xfce desktop) check the process you are running at startup, and as I said your hardware might be to blame, better backup just in case.
[16:56] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, also I don't believe it's some process' fault, otherwise I would hear the hd always clicking.
[16:56] <kensama> sorry i was not advise of this
[16:56] <andrewaclt> Any twitter client recommendations?
[16:56] <nothingmuch> aha: apt-get --no-install-recommends install texmaker
[16:56] <nothingmuch> doh
[16:57] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio,, if you had the same problem with another hard disk, the motherboard could be faulty, is weird, but could happen.
[16:57] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, it's the Windows ws Ubuntu that nerves me. windwos = ok, linux = clicky
[16:58] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, well, I say you try the bios settings first. where you using a portable?
[16:58] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, actually I remember having a similar issue with an older pc with another asus Mb.
[16:58] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, no. minitower with a oem asus mb (p5k), which is fairly common
[16:59] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, try power manager "Slow down hard disks"
[16:59] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, then reboot
[17:02] <alandd> hi, I am missing aufs. Anyone know of a good tutorial on installing it.]
[17:03] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, can't find power manager :( stupid translated ubuntu :)
[17:03] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, please tell me what language you installed ubuntu with
[17:04] <maurizio> italian
[17:04] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, look for the italian for "energia"
[17:04] <wengyanqing> hello
[17:04] <erictr1ck> im running aptana studio 3 out of the /opt directory and after locking the application to the taskbar, it will not actually launch when trying to launch from the taskbar icon. what am i doing wrong?
[17:04] <quixotedon> wengyanqing: hi
[17:04] <dcuny> I'm just installed Ubuntu 12.x via WUBI. Everything seems fine... But I get no audio. It looks like things *should* work, and nothing's muted. Any ideas?
[17:05] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, in spanish is usually is "Gestiones de energia" or something like that
[17:05] <Zero_Angel> did you go to audio properties tab?
[17:05] <dcuny> Yes. And the terminal version as well.
[17:05] <quixotedon> dcuny: go to Sound and check out your hardware there
[17:05] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, well, maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, but on system settings i can't do much, only tell when to shut down when on battery mode.
[17:05] <quixotedon> dcuny: what does it say?
[17:06] <dcuny> It recognizes the audio card, and says everything should be good. Nothing muted, all volume levels up.
[17:06] <dcuny> But... No test sound.
[17:07] <Zero_Angel> are you sure that you're not selecting a 'digital' or HDMI output source?
[17:07] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, look at the settings options, try each one, there should be one for "ON AC" Spin down hard disks
[17:07] <dcuny> Yes, it's "Analog Stereo Duplex".
[17:07] <dcuny> It's integrated nvidia audio.
[17:07] <qwebirc30502> hi
[17:08] <Meridious> qwebirc30502: hello
[17:08] <qwebirc30502> Hi people I have a big problem and I can install any distro of linux
[17:08] <qwebirc30502> cant*
[17:08] <dcuny> Specifically, 'HDA NVidia',  'Realtek ALC1200'
[17:08] <Meridious> qwebirc30502: what seems to be the issue here
[17:08] <oCean> qwebirc30502: this channel focuses on Ubuntu only
[17:09] <Zero_Angel> qwebirc30502, go to the pinguyos channel. I will help you there.
[17:09] <kag_anil> which is a good backup utility in linux??
[17:09] <ceed^> kag_anil: rsync!
[17:10] <kag_anil> @ceed^ what it is able to backup??
[17:10] <qwebirc30502> the problem is that when, i burn the dvd/cd of linux mint then boot, on the desktop I choose install, then languages, then on the partions, I dont have the option of alongside on windows, and worst is that the distro tell me that i dont have any os installed
[17:10] <qwebirc30502> and I have a windows 7 installed
[17:10] <oCean> qwebirc30502: mint distribution is not supported here
[17:10] <zykotick9> !mint | qwebirc30502
[17:11] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, i suppose we are using two different systems, since i can't find it.Is there some other settings window other than the one you can access when clicking on the top right corner on your username?
[17:11] <qwebirc30502> who can I connect to mint?
[17:11] <zykotick9> qwebirc30502: notice it's on a different network then this (freenode)
[17:11] <oCean> qwebirc30502: change to irc network  irc.spotchat.org
[17:11] <qwebirc30502> who?
[17:12] <oCean> qwebirc30502: see ubottu message, it is hilighted to you
[17:12] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, other option is to manually edit the config files so your hard disk does not spin so much, but is risky. I sugest you edit the speed settings in your bios and see if that does help.
[17:12] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, i reboot to see if there is something to do. i'm highly skeptic though.
[17:13] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, even the freaking menu of firefox makes the hd work too much
[17:13] <P-Chan> I can't build puredata extended... why? http://pastebin.com/wPtRppCd
[17:13] <P-Chan> ubuntu repositpories must have the sources right?
[17:13] <maurizio> ..and i don't have 512mb of ram..
[17:13] <Zero_Angel> maurizio -- how much RAM do you have?
[17:13] <ceed^> kag_anil: It's command line based, but can back up and sync almost anything. I have simple scripts I use for backup. You would have to read the rsync documentation. See here: http://bit.ly/Nsa3u8
[17:13] <maurizio> 2gb
[17:14] <maurizio> Mem:   2061228k total,  1039236k used,  1021992k free,    12328k buffers
[17:14] <Zero_Angel> There is a way to reduce the 'swappiness' of your virtual memory which should cause the hard drive to be accessed less often
[17:14] <Zero_Angel> do a google search for vm swappiness
[17:14] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, well, try looking for the user manual for your bios, and adjust the settings so the hard disk goes slower, otherwise trype your "system name" + "Ubuntu" on goggle and see what happens.
[17:14] <oCean> Zero_Angel: please don't refer to google here
[17:15] <blackgatocatnegr> sorry
[17:15] <kag_anil> @ceed^ can it backup my installed programs and then restore them to some other machine??(a curiousity  question)
[17:15] <Zero_Angel> oCean why not?
[17:15] <Zero_Angel> certainly people possess basic search skills
[17:15] <toxster_> hi there, i run KVM and have a pfsense box as guest, the guest runs on a bridged network accessing my LAN, and a pci-passthrough interface to access WAN, on my KVM host, i can ping and do dns, but i cannot reach anything, what am i missing?
[17:15] <oCean> Zero_Angel: people know google exists, they are here for actual help.
[17:15] <oCean> !google | Zero_Angel
[17:16] <ceed^> kag_anil: It's not really designed for that kind of backup, more for data and directory copy/sync
[17:16] <kag_anil> @ceed^ what about those kind of backup?? is there any other utility available in linux
[17:16] <maurizio> Zero_Angel, I have a swappiness of 60, 2gb of ram and 2gb of swap
[17:16] <ckwalsh> maurizio, http://unixfoo.blogspot.com/2007/11/linux-performance-tuning.html
[17:16] <ckwalsh> Ah
[17:17] <maurizio> i suppose 60 is too high
[17:17] <qwebirc30502> Why dont help me?
[17:17] <qwebirc30502> -.-
[17:17] <ckwalsh> maurizio, Wait a second: you are concerned you are using too much memory?
[17:17] <oCean> qwebirc30502: because this is Ubuntu channel, not mint
[17:17] <ckwalsh> maurizio, What is the full output of the free command?
[17:18] <maurizio> ckwalsh, i am concerned that my computer is destroying my hdd by writing every time i do something like opening a menu
[17:18] <blackgatocatnegr> ckwalsh,  hard disks spins too much while using ubuntu
[17:18] <honney> hi
[17:18] <maurizio>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[17:18] <maurizio> Mem:       2061228    1266676     794552          0      17176     337196
[17:18] <maurizio> -/+ buffers/cache:     912304    1148924
[17:18] <maurizio> Swap:      2095100     232540    1862560
[17:18] <Zero_Angel> so maurizio -- is your hard drive failing or something?
[17:18] <Zero_Angel> and you are trying to recover data from it before it fully fails?
[17:18] <ckwalsh> maurizio, install iotop. It should let you see what process is actually accessing the drive
[17:18] <maurizio> Zero_Angel, no. not failing. and if it fails it's no biggie. (but it's new so shouldn't happen)
[17:19] <ckwalsh> I would be surprised if it's memory swapping
[17:19] <palis11> Hey
[17:19] <palis11> Guys
[17:19] <palis11> What the hell is a QUIRK?
[17:19] <ckwalsh> You have plenty of memory...
[17:19] <blackgatocatnegr> Zero_Angel, maurizio hard disk works fine on windows, spins  much in Ubuntu
[17:19] <aaas>  how can I boot to a prompt without network support?
[17:19] <oCean> palis11: in what context
[17:19] <aaas> without using a live cd/drive
[17:20] <ckwalsh> aaas, should be an option in your grub menu for single user mode, or safe mode
[17:20] <palis11> oCean: I am trying to install nvidia drivers: I am getting this in the terminal: http://pastebin.com/51aug2Fw
[17:20] <aaas> ckwalsh recovery mode?
[17:20] <ceed^> kag_anil: I've never used a program for it, but rather the method described here. Works great: http://bit.ly/M6x6Yv
[17:20] <ckwalsh> Sounds right
[17:20] <Meridious> aaas: add 'single' to the end of any of your normal boot options
[17:20] <palis11> oCean: I guess I have to customize one of the files to match my machine, but I don't know how.
[17:20] <aaas> ok ill try thanks
[17:20] <quixotedon> maurizio: in my opinion, hd spins more in windows though
[17:21] <oCean> palis11: can't help you there, sorry
[17:21] <solid91> hi guys!! every time i switch on my system i have an error... "system program problem detected" how can i undestand what is it and how can i fix it? thanx
[17:21] <palis11> :(
[17:21] <maurizio> quixotedon,  wait.. for me "spins" = rotating. click = "writing here and there"
[17:21] <ckwalsh> palis11, If I had to guess, those quirks are patches for specific graphics cards
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> palis11  is it with a PPA ?
[17:21] <maurizio> so it rotates ok in both, but on ubuntu it clicks/scratch a lot
[17:21] <JoMs> Hi, anyone knows if there's any solution for installing mysql-server-5.5 on ubuntu 12.04 yet? seems a lot of people have trouble installing it (including me)
[17:21] <ckwalsh> looks like it's trying to use patches/settings for a graphics card you don't have
[17:21] <palis11> xorg edges
[17:22] <blackgatocatnegr> quixotedon, He is using an ASUS system, maybe that has something to do with it?
[17:22] <Meridious> solid91: does this occur during your bios output or during boot?
[17:22] <ckwalsh> maurizio, Use iotop to see what process is writing to the drive
[17:22] <quixotedon> blackgatocatnegr: well, i'm using a dell laptop, i don't know much about dealing with ubuntu on asus
[17:22] <palis11> ckwalsh: there are 3 files there: lenovo, tochiba and insert_your_quirk_here. IS it safe to delete them?
[17:22] <palis11> MonkeyDust: It's a ppa :)
[17:23] <ckwalsh> palis11, I have no clue, I have never installed your driver
[17:23] <soup-n-sandwich> palis11: what is PPA anyway?
[17:23] <ckwalsh> palis11, Why don't you move them to another folder and try it?
[17:23] <maurizio> ckwalsh,  well that's not the point. when I use mysql, i clearly see mysqld writing, when i open firefox
[17:23] <maurizio> ckwalsh, wait..i have to try with firefox again.. weird
[17:23] <dcuny> Still no audio. Nothing muted, volumes at full. Used terminal and System tools, no change. Hardware  works under Windows. Any clue?
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> palis11  find 'quirk' on this page and read the answer below it http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-nvidia-295-40-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-0411-10-using-ppa.html
[17:23] <solid91> @<Meridious> exactly when the system is ready and i can use the computer, after all the starting operations i think
[17:23] <palis11> soup-n-sandwich: xorg edges
[17:24] <Zero_Angel> soup-n-sandwich, a PPA is like a mini-repository where certain people upload their packages
[17:24] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio,  it seems you DO have process running in the background thats why your hard disk spins so much.
[17:24] <soup-n-sandwich> palis11: it's not some sort of repo for software?
[17:24] <Meridious> solid91: so right after you log in
[17:24] <palis11> it is
[17:24] <solid91> @<Meridious> yeah
[17:24] <ckwalsh> maurizio, If it's clicking a log, there are writes. It sounds like you are shooting in the dark for where those writes are coming from. First things first, figure out where they are coming from, then fix them
[17:24] <Meridious> soup-n-sandwich: it stands for Personal Package Archive
[17:25] <palis11> MonkeyDust: did that already, read all the pages in English about it. I'm going to remove them though
[17:25] <Meridious> soup-n-sandwich: its a repository
[17:25] <soup-n-sandwich> Zero_Angel: I see.Ok just making sure
[17:25] <fidel> !ppa
[17:25] <Meridious> solid91: and it does not say what program?
[17:25] <soup-n-sandwich> ubottu: ahhh thanks
[17:26] <aaas> Meridious 'single' doesn't disable network support, ckwalsh options in recovery are resume, clean, dpkg, failsafeX fsck grub, network root system-summary,  root gives me prompt but everything is read-only  failsafe tries to load network
[17:26] <palis11> soup-n-sandwich: it's a repo. Why?
[17:26] <maurizio> well the point is that while i write now, I see on iotop init, kthread,jdb, gtk etc.. on top..but i barely hear the hd. when i do things a bit more intensive, like opening a text editor, I hear the clicks, but it'weird.. if I write an app that writes 5mb of file, i don't hear so many clicks.. it's like the head is going reading a bit here and a bit there etc..
[17:26] <kag_anil> @ceed^ thanks buddy for that post... :)
[17:26] <solid91> @<Meridious> no, only if i want to report the problem...then sometimes i have another one:"Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error...ecc"
[17:27] <ckwalsh> aaas, You can remount the file system
[17:27] <maurizio> if I were on windows, i would have said that I need to defrag my hd.
[17:27] <aaas> ckwalsh i tried but still ro...is there a switch i need to use
[17:27] <Meridious> solid91: These are simply bugs in the recent 12.04 release being caught by the OS
[17:27] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio,, please be specific about the system, os and gui you are using, thank you very much.
[17:27] <soup-n-sandwich> palis11: I have seen the term a lot in the last few days but didn't look into what it was.  I'm new to Ubuntu but have been using Linux professionally for 6 years...just haven't see the term until lately
[17:27] <ckwalsh> aaas, one sec, I always have to google it
[17:27] <Meridious> solid91: Go ahead and click "report to Ubuntu" and ignore them
[17:28] <Meridious> solid91: they will get fixed in updates to your system
[17:28] <solid91> @<Meridious> so i should ignore the errors every time?
[17:28] <ckwalsh> aaas, "mount -o remount,rw /"
[17:28] <Zero_Angel> The PPA system is neat -- much more convenient than, say the Arch User Repository system -- even though AUR has its strengths too
[17:28] <Meridious> solid91: There is a tickbox for "ignore future problems of this type"
[17:29] <soup-n-sandwich> palis11: I have to say that I was very excited to switch over to 12.04...but in the last 12 hours I have had some issues that I just don't remember having in other systems.
[17:29] <Meridious> solid91: on the pop up message
[17:29] <solid91> @<Meridious> where? :P
[17:29] <palis11> soup-n-sandwich. Well, I was just trying to install my nv drivers, and I've got that. Deleted the content of folder Quirks now, I'll see how it goes. I'm a linux n00bster though :D
[17:29] <ckwalsh> maurizio, "sudo swapoff -a; sudo swapon -a;"
[17:29] <ckwalsh> And report if it still clicks a bunch
[17:29] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, I had the problem since ubuntu 11.10, now upgraded to 12.04, unity  on a Asus p5k mb 2gb ram core2duo 4600 os 32bit
[17:30] <Zero_Angel> wax on wax off
[17:30] <soup-n-sandwich> palis11: that's exactly what started this issue for me too!  On the notebook about two weeks ago ...now this administration desktop machine.
[17:30] <soup-n-sandwich> palis11: samba printer sharing issues also
[17:30] <aaas> ckwalsh thanks that worked
[17:31] <Meridious> solid91: on the pop up message itself. It may be after you click "report."
[17:31] <solid91> @<Meridious>there isn't any tickbox about "ignore future message"
[17:31] <palis11> :|
[17:31] <edwinkcw> hello, I have a question about php open source project. Is there any open source image pool on the web? I need to have category, upload and image chooser function.
[17:31] <soup-n-sandwich> palis11: this could be a deal breaker if I can get things working.   Can Samba really be this far from working?
[17:31] <Meridious> solid91: but yeah, these will gradually be fixed as you update in the future
[17:31] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio, try booting from the live cd, if you don't have the same problem there, is probably some bad configuration or running processes you don't need. best option would be a clean linux install (Delete your current one), but is up to you.
[17:31] <rottik9> How do I get, and install ifuse, in 12.4?
[17:32] <Jordan_U> edwinkcw: Try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[17:32] <soup-n-sandwich> Any know a consistant way to get a printer being shared with samba on 12.04?
[17:32] <Kornka> scanner sharing
[17:32] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr, I don't see how a process can cause gedit to load so weirdily. I will think about reinstalling everything though.
[17:32] <edwinkcw> Jordan_U: oh sorry, I though I was in php channel..
[17:32] <Kornka> why isnt there a scanner sharer
[17:32] <Kornka> on ubuntu
[17:33] <ckwalsh> blackgatocatnegr, Are you seriously suggesting a reinstall for an overactive hard drive?
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> !brainstorm | Kornka
[17:33] <ckwalsh> blackgatocatnegr, wtf?
[17:33] <Kornka> nvm
[17:33] <Kornka> there is
[17:33] <Kornka> just googled it
[17:33] <qwebirc30502> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=105223&p=594262#p594262 help me
[17:33] <ckwalsh> qwebirc30502, This is an ubuntu channel, not a mint channel
[17:33] <Jordan_U> !mint | qwebirc30502
[17:33] <blackgatocatnegr> ckwalsh, well is not the only problem he has with linux.
[17:34] <qwebirc30502> but its happen on ubuntu too -.-
[17:34] <solid91> @<Meridious> i think i have some problems with compiz man...now i have "the application Compiz has closed unexpectedly."
[17:34] <maurizio> i'm going to test the live cd and also see how the mysql query react on windows
[17:34] <dcuny> Revised audio question: all the output is going to headphones. It looks like ALSA doesn't know how to route the signal going to the back to the speakers.
[17:34] <soup-n-sandwich> ubottu: do you know if there is known issue with Samba printer and file sharing on 12.04?
[17:34] <blackgatocatnegr> maurizio., just how many problems are you having with ubuntu?
[17:34] <maurizio> i'll report back
[17:34] <ckwalsh> soup-n-sandwich, It's a bot, not a person :P
[17:34] <maurizio> blackgatocatnegr,  actually this is the only one i have.
[17:34] <Jordan_U> qwebirc30502: Can you boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB?
[17:34] <qwebirc30502> yeah
[17:35] <maurizio> see you later
[17:35] <ckwalsh> blackgatocatnegr, ...
[17:35] <qwebirc30502> but the problem is that
[17:35] <qwebirc30502> but on ubuntu
[17:35] <soup-n-sandwich> ckwalsh: lol...oh thanks..."it's like talking to the wall" :)
[17:35] <qwebirc30502> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=105223&p=594262#p594262
[17:35] <Jordan_U> qwebirc30502: Please do so and pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a && sudo parted -l"
[17:35] <blackgatocatnegr> ckwalsh, (02:32:39 PM) maurizio: blackgatocatnegr, I don't see how a process can cause gedit to load so weirdily. I will think about reinstalling everything though. ***that does hint some other problems**
[17:36] <qwebirc30502> who can i do this?
[17:36] <qwebirc30502> jordan i dont know what to do
[17:36] <wylde_> !paste | qwebirc30502
[17:37] <aaas> Kornka if you're talking about sane, it doesn't support all scanners, depending on your setup, it might just be easier to scan and share over the network or just plug the scanner into a laptop, scanner sharing is different than printer sharing: with scanners you alway shave to bring the thing you want to scan to the scanner
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> qwebirc30502  using mint?
[17:37] <Jordan_U> qwebirc30502: Do you know how to run commands in the terminal?
[17:37] <sudobangbang> anyone here running a system76 laptop from the last year or so?  wondering what your conclusions are about the laptop
[17:37] <wylde_> qwebirc30502: run the command in terminal and copy and paste the output to the link in the factoid
[17:37] <qwebirc30502> yeah I know
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> !polls| sudobangbang
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> wrong factoid
[17:39] <blackgatocatnegr> sudobangbang, what do you want to use it for? wikipedia has several comparison lists you could use as reference.
[17:39] <sudobangbang> yeah, i just want human feedback...just got one and i'm a little dissappointed about how cheap the casing is
[17:39] <Jordan_U> qwebirc30502: OK, now that you have been given the factoid explaining how to use pastebin, do you understand my request for you to boot an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB and pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a && sudo parted -l"?
[17:39] <dcuny> Is there another mixer panel app which might allow me to toggle audio ports? I'm trying to get audio to come out of the back port (where the speakers are plugged in), but Ubuntu doesn't "see" them as an option.
[17:40] <beandog> alsamixer
[17:40] <qwebirc30502> run this on ubuntu live cd "lsb_release -a && sudo parted -l"
[17:40] <qwebirc30502> and the copy the info and paste into the pastebin?
[17:41] <dcuny> I've got alsamixer open (in the terminal window) but don't see any options...
[17:42] <dcuny> That is, I don't see any options to route to anywhere other than the device it's using, and no options for that device.
[17:42] <Belserusk> On UbuntuForums main page it says "Members: 1,674,268, Active Members: 51,655". What are 'active' members?
[17:43] <blackgatocatnegr> sudobangbang, well, try looking about the system online, see if there are too many conplains and that. lack of BlingBling does not mean a  system is bad.
[17:43] <sudobangbang> blackgatocatnegr: thanks
[17:44] <dcuny> I see Master, Headphone, PCM, Front, Front Mic, Front Mic Boost, Surround and Center. No option for Rear. ???
[17:44] <blackgatocatnegr> Belserusk, active menbers, menbers who post a lot.
[17:45] <Belserusk> blackgatocatnegr, Thats a bit vague.
[17:45] <MrEchizeroDark> hola
[17:45] <Belserusk> blackgatocatnegr, perhaps it means those that have visited the site within the last x amount of days?
[17:45] <MrEchizeroDark> hello
[17:45] <JoMs> Hi, anyone knows if there's any solution for installing mysql-server-5.5 on ubuntu 12.04 yet? seems a lot of people have trouble installing it (including me)
[17:46] <blackgatocatnegr> Belserusk, forum statistics are usually made by that kind of stuff, in theory members who post more and do not spam should be the most useful members of the forum.
[17:46] <dcuny_> Ooop... See more options as I arrow right...
[17:47] <MrEchizeroDark> gabinopalma5@gmail.com
[17:47] <MrEchizeroDark> add
[17:48] <MrEchizeroDark> yes
[17:49] <dcuny_> OK, got it fixed. "Auto Mute" was enabled in the AlsaMixer (way off-screen to the left). PIty it doesn't show up in the regular mixer. :-(
[17:49] <dcuny_> -oo-
[17:49] <andai1> I have 3 GB of RAM. Do I need 64 bit?
[17:50] <xangua> andai1: if you need to ask if you need 64 bit you are better of with 32 bit
[17:50] <blackgatocatnegr>  andai1, ask again when you have 8 GB
[17:50] <andai1> xangua: I had 64 bit 5 years ago, it had some minor issues but I thought they might have been resolved by now. What I mean was,
[17:51] <andai1> how much of my 3 GB will go wasted on a 32 bit system*
[17:51] <llutz> andai1: nothing
[17:51] <andai1> perfect. Thank you!
[17:52] <Dshoe> Whats up guys
[17:52] <pablo_> is it posible to run an ubuntu 12.04 desktop without hardware acceleration?
[17:52] <CN> hola
[17:52] <CN> necesito ayuda
[17:52] <pablo_> CN, creo q aqui es solo ingles
[17:53] <Jordan_U> pablo_: Yes, by using Unity2D or one of the many other shells which do not require 3D accelleration.
[17:53] <blackgatocatnegr> andai1, ubuntu can use more than 2GB of ram on a 32 bit system, I need to find the page with the details, but basically running a 64 bit system with less than 8 GB is a bit let down.
[17:53] <CN> hay un chat ubuntu español?
[17:53] <Jordan_U> !es | CN
[17:53] <andai1> blackgatocatnegr: PAE?
[17:53] <andai1> andai1: is it PAE by default?
[17:53] <blackgatocatnegr>  pablo_, try lubuntu for slow hardware
[17:54] <Trieste> Hi, I'd like to get the ink levels of my epson printer, but none of the apps I tried (mtink, ink, escputil) work. mtink refuses to use any other device file than /dev/usb/lp0, and when I symlinked /dev/bus/usb/002/004 (as found out by lsusb and the fact that the file's group is "lp"), it halts for a while, and then prints error about the printer. ink prints "could not get device id", and escputil prints "Invalid argument" when suppliied the raw
[17:54] <Trieste> device file
[17:54] <pablo_> blackgatocatnegr, is not slow hardware but the video drivers are not available
[17:54] <quixotedon> pablo_: or you can install gnome-fallback-session for gnome classic, cmiiw
[17:55] <andai1> so... i'm downloading 32 bit now, but i'm wondering, what issues are there still with 64 bit?
[17:55] <llutz> andai1: there are none
[17:55] <quixotedon> pablo_: have you checked through 'additional drivers'?
[17:55] <blackgatocatnegr> pablo_, then try to get them, or get a different video card, using ubuntu without the right video drivers is bad.
[17:55] <zykotick9> blackgatocatnegr: i'd say 4GB is the tipping point for 64bit myself.  PAE is a hack.  (i use 64bit on everything that can support it myself).  andai1
[17:56] <andai1> So... why is 32 bit the recommended one, and 64 bit a let down? blackgatocatnegr llutz
[17:56] <llutz> andai1: if hardware supports 64bit, one should use it. there might be exceptions when using special software (3rd party)
[17:57] <blackgatocatnegr> zykotick9, is a difference on opinion, as time passes 64 bit programs will hog more and more ram, so having 8 GB would be nice.
[17:57] <llutz> andai1: they recommend 32 because it will run on all machines
[17:57] <zykotick9> blackgatocatnegr: saying 64bit uses more memory is only true if you're using a 32 bit perspective ;)
[17:57] <andai1> llutz: They recommend it for people who don't know the difference? :P
[17:57] <s9iper1> any body knows a good tool kit of php web development for ubuntu ?
[17:57] <gigix> pablo_: 32 bits is sure to work on all machines, though more and more processors are 64 bits compatible
[17:57] <llutz> andai1: kinda...
[17:58] <blackgatocatnegr> andai1, And because you only have 3 GB of ram, is not justified to run a 64 bit system there as 32 bit would run faster.
[17:58] <llutz> blackgatocatnegr: you won't see any difference in most cases
[17:58] <zykotick9> andai1: with 3GB of RAM you'll have more ram available if you use 32bit...
[17:58] <soup-n-sandwich> anybody know why sharing printers and file with samba is such a nightmare with 12.04?
[17:58] <blackgatocatnegr> zykotick9, 64 bit games sure do use more ram
[17:58] <Flippto> Hey all, i really need some help. I just installed ubuntu (on windows). But when i boot into ubuntu, my keyboard and mouse ain't working. I've got a Logitech k800 keyboard and Logitech Performance MX mouse.
[17:58] <andai1> it's for a friend's laptop. All she needs is Firefox and Flashplayer anyway
[17:59] <zykotick9> blackgatocatnegr: the only 64bit game i've seen is UT2003/4? and it's broken these days anyways.
[17:59] <blackgatocatnegr> zykotick9, whats the limit of ram you can use on a 32 bit system?
[18:00] <llutz> blackgatocatnegr: 3.2GB
[18:00] <zykotick9> llutz: is correct.  with PAE, it's quasi-more obviously.
[18:00] <blackgatocatnegr> Then what os do thoser games that use 4 GB of ram or more use?
[18:02] <llutz> zykotick9: even with PAE you still will have the 4GB(minus kernel etc)  limit per process
[18:02] <Flippto> Hey guys, help a newbie out here ;)
[18:03] <llutz> zykotick9: as you said, just a hack
[18:03] <zykotick9> llutz: agreed - that's the base fact i use to justify calling pae a "hack" ;)
[18:03] <i7c> Flippto: go ahead, just ask :)
[18:03] <zykotick9> ;)
[18:03] <Flippto> I just installed ubuntu (on windows). But when i boot into ubuntu, my keyboard and mouse ain't working. I've got a Logitech k800 keyboard and Logitech Performance MX mouse.
[18:03] <Flippto> Both running on Unifying receiver.
[18:03] <i7c> Flippto: do they work before booting? like in bios or something?
[18:04] <Silent> Any idea how can I install MP4 codecs on Parole?
[18:04] <Flippto> Bios works fine, and here (in windows 7) and in the bootloader to.
[18:04] <blackgatocatnegr> Silent, ubuntu restricted extra?
[18:04] <blackgatocatnegr> s
[18:04] <i7c> Flippto: try disconnecting and reconnecting the receiver after ubuntu booted completely
[18:04] <Silent> Hmm?
[18:05] <Flippto> Tried that, all USB ports, none of them does any difference.
[18:05] <Silent> That sounds like some kind of nuclear facility data log
[18:05] <blackgatocatnegr> Silent, try to install ubuntu restricted extras package, it install a lot of propietary codecs
[18:05] <Silent> Restricted extras.
[18:05] <i7c> Flippto: i use the unifying receiver and works great, even tho i head this issue once in the installation process
[18:05] <i7c> after a restart it worked again
[18:06] <i7c> had*
[18:06] <Silent> Alright thanks
[18:06] <Flippto> I tried installing from CD, but when i get to language options, mouse and keyboard are gone. Thats why i used Wubi to install over windows. But when i get to the login screen, nothing is working.
[18:08] <gigix> Flippto: any spare keyboard ?
[18:09] <Flippto> Nope, thats the problem. Only got my laptop, but cant connect through SSH because it isn't installed on this machine.
[18:11] <blackgatocatnegr> Flippto, try to see if they have linux drivers, meanwhile try using an usb keyboard and or mouse to update ubuntu
[18:11] <gigix> did it work on the live session ?
[18:11] <Flippto> blackgatocatnegr, i would, except i dont have a spare mouse and keyboard to plug in.
[18:12] <Flippto> nope
[18:13] <blackgatocatnegr> Flippto, ok try using the alternate install cd, and see if it works from there
[18:13] <Flippto> The alternate cd ? Isn't that just extra languages ? Or am i missing something ?
[18:13] <kubanc> what's the version of Linux disto, that's using old GNOME as default GUO
[18:13] <kubanc> GUI
[18:14] <Flippto> 12.04
[18:14] <gigix> how would the outcome be different from the live-install ?
[18:15] <quixotedon> kubanc: you might be interested to try 10.04 or 10.10 use gnome classic
[18:15] <kubanc> quixotedon, It's Linux Mint...
[18:15] <xangua> quixotedon: 10.10 is no longer supported
[18:15] <xangua> !mint | kubanc
[18:15] <quixotedon> ah, sorry xangua
[18:15] <gigix> 10.04 + backports is an option too
[18:16] <pragmaticenigma> I really wouldn't recommend going to an older version of ubuntu. There have been way too many kernel vulnerabilities lately and it's unknown if those will get patched through backports
[18:16] <gigix> depends on how old is his hardware
[18:17] <quixotedon> kubanc: why not installing gnome-fallback-session? cmiiw
[18:17] <quixotedon> (on your recent version of os)
[18:17] <pragmaticenigma> Anything can run Lubuntu.  I have an old pentium 3 with 512 Megs of RAM that run Lubuntu with no problems
[18:17] <tata> I installed new version of adobe, after that I lost preveligie, now I am not a root, why?
[18:17] <gigix> I used to have a laptop with tricky hardware that was running fine on Centos 6 (kernel 2.6.32) but failed on 11.10
[18:18] <quixotedon> !lubuntu| quixotedon
[18:18] <pragmaticenigma> tata, you should never be logged in as root on Ubuntu
[18:18] <blackgatocatnegr> gigix, try Lubuntu
[18:18] <ryan_> Why won't VM run?? D:
[18:18] <pragmaticenigma> gigix, Ubuntu 11.10 uses the 3.x kernel
[18:18] <Lunar_Lander> hi I got a problem with the four desktops of Ubuntu, I got pidgin on the second desktop now and can't find out how to get it back on desktop 1
[18:19] <quixotedon> lubuntu uses lxde, heard that it's suitable for low spec hardware
[18:19] <ryan_> Hey, does somebody know any good links of simple programs in C++ for Linux?
[18:19] <pragmaticenigma> Lunar_Lander: Use the CTRL + ALT  then arrow keys to switch back and forth
[18:19] <gigix> runnin lubuntu won't change hardware recognition
[18:19] <Lunar_Lander> Cool thanks!, that is easy
[18:19] <Ca11um> In a typical server environment (for hosting game servers, and other programs), would the program data go within /home or in a root folder?
[18:19] <quixotedon> Lunar_Lander: can you click on the window?? right click on it then choose move to workspace (any number you want)
[18:19] <Ca11um> like /servers
[18:19] <ryan_> Why won't VM run?? D:
[18:20] <Lunar_Lander> quixotedon, let me try
[18:20] <ryan_> Hey, does somebody know any good links of simple programs in C++ for Linux?
[18:20] <blackgatocatnegr> gigix, lubuntu is made for use on older hardware, specially 10.04
[18:20] <quixotedon> Lunar_Lander: in your case, move to workspace 1
[18:20] <Lunar_Lander> quixotedon, YAY that worked
[18:20] <Lunar_Lander> THANKS! quixotedon  pragmaticenigma
[18:20] <quixotedon> Lunar_Lander: :d
[18:21] <Lunar_Lander> and Lubuntu is the version for computers with low power?
[18:21] <quixotedon> Lunar_Lander: low hardware spec to be exact
[18:21] <tata> how to be root again?
[18:21] <ryan_> Hey, does somebody know any good links of simple programs in C++ for Linux?
[18:21] <ryan_> su
[18:21] <Lunar_Lander> quixotedon, yeah
[18:21] <fidel> !root > tata
[18:21] <gigix> blackgatocatnegr, agreed but lxde is just a DE optimized for slow hardware, it does not change how the hardware is recognized by your kernel under the hood
[18:21] <Lunar_Lander> thanks!
[18:21] <Kornka> i can install Lubuntu in 486 ?
[18:21] <ryan_> tata, type su in terminal
[18:21] <pragmaticenigma> tata: "sudo -s" will give you a root shell
[18:22] <quixotedon> Kornka: for pretty low hardware, maybe you can try puppy (that's what some may suggest here, though i haven't tried it yet)
[18:22] <quixotedon> !puppy | Kornka
[18:22] <Kornka> okay
[18:22] <mikeconcepts> sh: 1: inxi: not found
[18:23] <Lunar_Lander> have a nice evening!
[18:23] <oros> Hi
[18:23] <blackgatocatnegr> gigix, actually lubuntu 10.04 has a different kernel than modern lubuntu 12.04, and lubuntu treats it as a LTS release to keep support with old hardware
[18:23] <pragmaticenigma> blackgatocatnegr: 10.04 is no longer supported with the release of 12.04
[18:23] <quixotedon> blackgatocatnegr: how's lubuntu compared to puppy, any explanation?
[18:24] <oros> is there any way to start a program from the terminal and then being able to close the terminal without quitting the program? Have tried the &, but it didn't work. What does it exactly do?
[18:24] <tata> thanks all
[18:24] <pragmaticenigma> quixotedon: They use different window managers is their biggest difference.  Otherwise they are both capable of allowing you to use your favorite programs
[18:25] <pragmaticenigma> oros: You can try and use screen
[18:25] <blackgatocatnegr> pragmaticenigma, I will ask in the lubuntu channel to be sure, wait a while
[18:26] <oros> Ok, so ' screen xchat ' example, without the ' ofc
[18:26] <oros> ?
[18:26] <quixotedon> pragmaticenigma: i think ubuntu 10.04 is supported up to 3 years which ends next year
[18:26] <quixotedon> :)
[18:26] <gigix> I thought lubuntu 10.04 was no lts ? http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-1004-now-available-download
[18:26] <quixotedon> gigix: don't know whether it's lts or not
[18:27] <pragmaticenigma> Lubuntu does not use the LTS designation
[18:27] <TITO_> can i install sony pc companion in ubuntu?
[18:27] <pragmaticenigma> Only Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu use the LTS.  All of the other's are supported "spins" which cannot use the LTS label
[18:28] <TITO_>  Can i install sony pc companion in ubuntu?
[18:28] <sysdoc> !javaHL
[18:28] <gigix> I guess the LTS just gives you an idea of the length of support. Indeed Lubuntu 12.04 is 18 month support as opposed to the other *buntus supported for 3 years
[18:28] <pragmaticenigma> !wailt | TITO_
[18:28] <gigix> and Ubuntu for 5
[18:29] <pragmaticenigma> !wait | TITO_
[18:29] <Flippto> Okey guys, just tried the alternate CD for installation. Boot menu works fine, but after choosing "install ubuntu" my keyboard and mouse stops working. Any ideas ? Or is Ubuntu just not for me ?
[18:30] <TITO_> k thanks
[18:30] <blackgatocatnegr> Flippto, so they work until you pick the install option?
[18:30] <gigix> After you've clicked install ubuntu, the alternate cd loads a minimal ubuntu kernel to allow you go through the installation
[18:30] <pragmaticenigma> Flippto: what is your CPU?
[18:31] <gigix> If that failed then it means your keyboard/mouse combo is just not recognized
[18:31] <Flippto> blackgatocatnegr, excactly
[18:31] <roasted_> Question - I'm looking for a simple display manager. I want to enable a quick way to mirror displays or non-mirror displays. I looked at ARandR but I can't find mirror options on it. Is there anythign else out there besides the obvious hardware function keys?
[18:31] <xGrub11> hello... everybody... :)
[18:31] <pragmaticenigma> gigix: It could also mean his system has "hung" because of a kernel panic
[18:31] <Flippto> pragmaticenigma, its an Intel Core i7-3820
[18:32] <quixotedon> Flippto: did u install 64 or 32?
[18:32] <Flippto> 64bit
[18:32] <pragmaticenigma> Thanks Flippto, I had a similar issue with a Pentium 4 with HyperThreading, sadly my solution that's not going to work for you
[18:32] <quixotedon> Flippto: well, kinda risky
[18:33] <mikeconcepts> kernel 3.2.0-24 usb cam Intel cs330 works, 3.2.0-25 it dosen't
[18:33] <xGrub11> is somebody know NES emulator for xubuntu? thanks before?
[18:33] <Jordan_U> roasted_: Ubuntu's default "Displays" app does this.
[18:33] <Flippto> quixotedon, why is it risky
[18:33] <blackgatocatnegr> Flippto, that means ubuntu has support for your keyboard but some weird bug happens. oR you tried the cd running from windows?
[18:33] <quixotedon> Flippto: 64 is kinda unstable
[18:33] <pragmaticenigma> quixotedon: I'm running Ubuntu 64bit 12.04 on i7 without issue
[18:34] <quixotedon> pragmaticenigma: dunno but just have a freak on 64.. :d
[18:34] <Flippto> blackgatocatnegr, i restarted my pc and booted from cd, straight from bios, so no windows interference.
[18:34] <pablos99> hey
[18:34] <pablos99> guy
[18:34] <pablos99> s
[18:34] <gigix> xGrub11: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Emulators
[18:34] <quixotedon> Flippto: maybe you should try a restart and see if you have the same experience
[18:34] <pablos99> My refresh rate always resets after reboot. Nvidia
[18:34] <roasted_> Jordan_U: I know, but I'm looking for more alternatives. Right now I'm just trying to get a slew of ideas on the table that I can check out.
[18:34] <epinky> Hello all,  I have a problem with my system, it boots up mounting / with readonly permissions, /etc/fstab is ok, the machine is in farawayistan, what could I do to boot (rw)?
[18:34] <pragmaticenigma> quixotedon: You shouldn't let your experiences scare others.  We are all trying to help here.
[18:35] <Flippto> quixotedon, ive restarted againg and again, no luck.
[18:35] <mons_> #
[18:35] <pragmaticenigma> quixotedon: And with the 3.x kernel, 64bit is much better supported which is what 11.10 and up have been using
[18:36] <quixotedon> pragmaticenigma: heard so, but can not make it sure as there's practically no 64 to try on.. :d
[18:36] <pragmaticenigma> there are tons of CPUs on the market with 64 bit
[18:36] <pragmaticenigma> all of the Intel core i series are 64 bit
[18:36] <gigix> pretty much every of them now
[18:36] <Flippto> quixotedon, allmost every cpu coming out nowadays is 64bit.
[18:37] <Jordan_U> epinky: It's probably mounting read only because there is fileystem corruption which needs to be fixed, which may also mean that the hard drive hardware is dying. First step is to back up anything important.
[18:37] <blackgatocatnegr> Flippto, ok, that means is some kind of bug, When you installed using windows, did you pick the update while install and install restricted drivers options?
[18:37] <gigix> 64 bits is nothing to be afraid of if you're running pretty recent hardware tbh
[18:37] <epinky> Jordan_U: ok, backup is done
[18:37] <quixotedon> yeah, i'm still using before i series hardware.. :d
[18:37] <theseus> anyone know of a folder brower that supports the mouse back button?  Dolphin just isn't capable of doing this yet.
[18:38] <gigix> I've got a Penryn processor ^^
[18:38] <Flippto> blackgatocatnegr, when using wubi to install through windows, i dont have that option at all, it just downloads 12.04 64bit and installs. I only get to chance partition size and username/password. Thats it.
[18:38] <quixotedon> Flippto: so you install using wubi??
[18:38] <pragmaticenigma> theseus: That is a question beyond the scope of this support..
[18:39] <quixotedon> Flippto: sorry, didn't check the chat before
[18:39] <pablos99> My refresh rate always resets after reboot. Nvidia
[18:39] <blackgatocatnegr> Flippto, wait 64 bit? How much ram do you have?
[18:39] <theseus> pragmaticenigma: lol, no its not.
[18:39] <Flippto> quixotedon, when installing through windows yes, but like i said before, i tried booting from cd straight from bios, but then i cant even get the install going because of the mouse and keyboard missing.
[18:39] <epinky> Jordan_U: what to do next?
[18:39] <Flippto> blackgatocatnegr, i have 32gb ;) So i have enough
[18:40] <pragmaticenigma> theseus: It is, your best bet is looking at KDE support forums
[18:40] <quixotedon> Flippto: ah, i see, what's the port of your mouse and keyboard? usb?
[18:40] <Flippto> quixotedon, yeah
[18:40] <micr0be> Damn, my wifi is not stable ... Sorry, but does someone telled me how can i configure gvfs-open ?
[18:40] <Flippto> quixotedon, tried both usb 2.0 and 3.0.
[18:41] <quixotedon> Flippto: but they work fine just on windows?
[18:41] <blackgatocatnegr> Flippto, you should have said that before, try borroring a regular mouse/ keyboard and install usb keyboard/mouse drivers
[18:41] <gigix> blackgatocatnegr: even 2 Gb would not change anything, using 64 bits is not pre-conditioned by your amount of RAM, just by whether your processor is able to handle it or not
[18:42] <Flippto> blackgatocatnegr i have noone to borrow from. everyone i know is on laptops.
[18:42] <Jordan_U> epinky: Run "dmesg" and see if it shows any relevant error messages (and pastebin the output too so that we can check it).
[18:42] <Flippto> quixotedon, yeah, works in the bios, in bootloaders, and windows. Only ubuntu is messing with it.
[18:42] <roasted_> Does anybody know of a quick way to enable/disable screen mirroring? I'm trying to find a 1 touch solution to make it easier for staff that has a laptop who often hooks in a projector. Sometimes the hardware Fn keys just act wonky.
[18:43] <besTKoDerEverR> c64
[18:43] <blackgatocatnegr> Flippto, well without a working mouse and or keyboard, there is not much you can do.
[18:43] <quixotedon> Flippto: so, actually before you came to the fault, you could still choose the options/whatsoever in the installation dialogue? is my understanding correct?
[18:43] <gigix> Flippto: Could you try another distrib, like Fedora just to see if this issue is proper to Ubuntu ?
[18:43] <Jordan_U> Flippto: I don't know how to get your keyboard and mouse working, but I can think of some interesting tricks to allow you to install ssh if you think that would be worth doing.
[18:44] <Flippto> blackgatocatnegr, i know, but i just cant grasp the fact that ubuntu doesnt have a universal driver for the standard keys. screw the media buttons, but the normal keys should work.
[18:44] <pragmaticenigma> roasted_: good idea is to search for the make and model of the laptop looking for hotkey support in forums... it's usually how I get those buttons to work properly
[18:44] <roasted_> pragmaticenigma: well, that's not the entire goal. I want to have an alternative on the laptops *regardless*, so I'm still interested in finding alternative screen layout editors.
[18:44] <Jordan_U> Flippto: Do I understand correctly that these are wireless devices?
[18:44] <Flippto> Jordan_U, if i can get access through ssh, then i can use my laptop to force my desktop to download the drivers, yes ?
[18:44] <Flippto> Jordan_U, yeah
[18:44] <roasted_> pragmaticenigma: all I knwo if is arandr, but it seems to only set screen layout and not really mirror.
[18:45] <roasted_> pragmaticenigma: do you know of any others I can tinker with? That's realy the big thing, I just don't know of the names of any.
[18:45] <Jordan_U> Flippto: That's assumming that you can find drivers.
[18:45] <lazarus_>  any ideas how to change the grub resoltion and plymouth also to a resolution of 1842x1026
[18:45] <pragmaticenigma> mirroring is something that supported my xinerama (sp?)
[18:45] <Voziv> Is there a way to run efsck -y on boot?
[18:45] <Jordan_U> !fsck | Voziv
[18:45] <roasted_> pragmaticenigma: I see, but do you know of any sort of simple gui to tweak it on the fly?
[18:45] <Flippto> Jordan_U, yeah, but logitech k800 and logitech performance MX should have drivers.
[18:45] <roasted_> pragmaticenigma: or maybe, do you know of how ubuntu handles it under system settings - displays?
[18:45] <Voziv> Jordan_U: will that run it with -y?
[18:45] <Jordan_U> Flippto: Should according to what?
[18:46] <pragmaticenigma> roasted_: Usually there is a Display under system -> settings
[18:46] <Jordan_U> Voziv: I don't actually know, sorry.
[18:46] <roasted_> pragmaticenigma: right, but do you know the name of that exact item by chance?
[18:46] <pragmaticenigma> roasted_: You may have to install xinerama to enable Ubuntu's "Display" application to know it can do mirroring
[18:46] <roasted_> pragmaticenigma: I'm not entirely sure if we'll be using Unity or not, so whatever I choose I want it to work on several DEs that we might be going with.
[18:46] <Flippto> Jordan_U according to another website i found who showed a guy using it with ubuntu ;)
[18:46] <Voziv> I need to be able to run it with -y since I don't have access to the machine without ssh (amazon aws)
[18:47] <Flippto> i trawled google try'ing to find a solution.
[18:47] <pragmaticenigma> roasted_: I know that CentOS has support readily built in
[18:47] <Jordan_U> Flippto: Do you have virtual machine software which can use a file as a raw virtual disk?
[18:48] <Flippto> Jordan_U, uhm, i actually dont know.
[18:48] <pragmaticenigma> Jordan_U: There is a way to get Virtual Box to do that
[18:48] <Jordan_U> Flippto: I'm pretty sure that Virtualbox can, though I don't know how. And Virtualbox is free and works in Windows.
[18:49] <Jordan_U> pragmaticenigma: Do you know enough to walk Flippto through doing that or should we go to #virtualbox and ask there?
[18:50] <pragmaticenigma> It might be better to go to #virtualbox
[18:50] <pragmaticenigma> I have not done that, I have only seen someone else do it
[18:50] <Flippto> wow, this i getting to be a bigger issue.
[18:50] <blackgatocatnegr>  Jordan_U, he has windows, he could install virtual box there
[18:50] <pragmaticenigma> Flippto: If your interested in try Ubuntu instead of a full or dual boot system instal, VitualBox is the way to go to try Ubuntu
[18:51] <Flippto> pragmaticenigma, maybe i should take a look at that.
[18:51] <epinky> Jordan_U: I have plenty of this "EXT3-fs error (device hda1): ext3_readdir:"
[18:51] <pragmaticenigma> Wubi is plagued with problems, and I've never had good luck with it
[18:52] <pragmaticenigma> WUBI often fails as soon as a kernel update is issued leading to hours of troubleshooting
[18:52] <gigix> Flippto, I would try to boot another distro just to be sure before going to a more complicated solution
[18:52] <genii-around> Flippto: Your issue reminds me of this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/870227
[18:53] <Flippto> genii-around, yeah, i read that one too. Sadle its not solved.
[18:53] <Flippto> gigix, any other distro you could suggest ?
[18:53] <Flippto> gigix, knoppix maybe?
[18:53] <gigix> Fedora
[18:53] <genii-around> Flippto: There is a workaround with editing the udev rules, but for that you need another keyboard that works first, etc... so chicken-egg thing
[18:54] <gigix> anything that is not Debian derived like Ubuntu
[18:54] <gigix> CentOS also
[18:54] <pablos99> Help guys? Please
[18:55] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | pablos99
[18:55] <pablos99> My refresh rate always resets after reboot. Nvidia
[18:55] <Jordan_U> pablos99: Be patient, if anyone knows the answer they will answer. If nobody knows at the moment, nobody will answer.
[18:55] <blackgatocatnegr> pablos99, did you install the proprietary drivers?
[18:55] <pablos99> yes
[18:55] <gigix> pablos99, what version of ubuntu, what graphics, please be accurate
[18:55] <quixotedon> !patience > pablos99
[18:56] <pragmaticenigma> pablos99: There is an option to save the configuration in the Nvidia setup tool, you will have to run the Nvidia setup tool as sudo to have it save properly
[18:56] <pablos99> I did. saved it to xorg.conf
[18:56] <pablos99> using Ubuntu 12.04, Nvidia 259.49
[18:57] <gigix> pablos99, thanks and what card ?
[18:57] <pablos99> 8500GT
[18:57] <Jordan_U> Flippto: Please join #vbox and I can walk you through booting your Wubi install via Virtualbox (after which you can boot normally with whatever changes you made in the VM).
[18:57] <Flippto> gigix, getting Fedora now, but if that works, what is the difference to ubuntu ? I have really only heard about ubuntu, never of fedora.
[18:57] <pragmaticenigma> pablos99: That file has to be saved to the /etc/X11/ folder to make it permanent
[18:57] <pablos99> I did!
[18:57] <pablos99> It's there
[18:57] <pablos99> I'm not stupid, lol
[18:58] <pablos99> It's a common bug. Couldn't find a fix online
[18:58] <theadmin> Flippto: Fedora's not supported here, but it's entirely different, it's nothing like Ubuntu *at all*, generally speaking.
[18:58] <blackgatocatnegr> pablos99, xorg.conf does nor work in modern versions. try to sudo the Nvidia setup tool and save the settings there, then rebbot.
[18:58] <pragmaticenigma> !nice | pablos99
[18:58] <gigix> Flippto, yes but if Fedora works and Ubuntu doesn't then we have a case of bad hardware detection
[18:58] <Flippto> theadmin, fantastic. So we are back to sqaure one. hehe
[18:59] <pragmaticenigma> pablos99: no one is assuming anything, but please be nice to those who are trying to help
[18:59] <Flippto> gigix, okey.
[18:59] <pablos99> ok.
[18:59] <gigix> and hardware detection between Fedora and Ubuntu is likely to differ a bit. I saw that happening for a wireless card
[18:59] <pablos99> Forget it guys.
[18:59] <pablos99> I have another problem now
[18:59] <Jordan_U> Flippto: You can join #fedora for fedora support, and if Fedora works then we have a better idea of the scope of the problem.
[18:59] <pablos99> My audio card is detected as Dummy Output in the sound manager :)
[18:59] <Flippto> Jordan_U, ill try it out and see what happens.
[19:00] <GeenAdmin> anyone know of a good program for ubuntu that checks a web site for dead links?  Been using KlinkStatus and having mixed results. Also does anyone know of a good tool that makes XML sitemaps?
[19:00] <Flippto> Thanks for the help so far everyone, hopefully ill be back here soon ;)
[19:00] <pragmaticenigma> pablos99: Do you hear sounds coming from your computer?
[19:00] <Jordan_U> Flippto: If Fedora doesn't work and you want to try booting your Wubi install via a VM ping me in #vbox.
[19:00] <pablos99> let me try :)
[19:00] <gigix> Flippto, there's nothing to be afraid with Fedora, it's pretty much the same user experience from a user point of view, just the way the distribution is packaged that changed
[19:01] <andai1> What's the ubuntu advantage logo?
[19:01] <andai1> It looks like a lambda with knees!
[19:01] <pablos99> pragmaticenigma: No. I've removed some intel related xorg packages, could that be it?
[19:01] <pragmaticenigma> andai1: It is just a logo to help identify computers that are most compatible with Ubuntu releases
[19:01] <pragmaticenigma> pablos99: Yes
[19:02] <ubuntu_> t
[19:02] <ubuntu_> test
[19:02] <ubuntu_> asd
[19:02] <ubuntu_> asd
[19:02] <FloodBot1> ubuntu_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:02] <pablos99> pragmaticenigma: One was something like. xorg intel video, and the other one, as a dep for the 1st. xorg video all or something
[19:03] <pragmaticenigma> pablos99: Intel packages are sometimes interdependent. A graphics chip can be repurposed for audio but may still have a dependency on the video driver to get it working
[19:04] <pablos99> pragmaticenigma: xserver-xorg-video-all and xserver-xorg-video-intel. Removed the intel one (the 1st one got removed too ) because I couldn't install my Nvidia drivers
[19:04] <pablos99> pragmaticenigma: Should I install them both?
[19:04] <pragmaticenigma> pablos99: What is the make and model of your computer?
[19:05] <pragmaticenigma> pablos99: and is it a laptop or desktop
[19:05] <pablos99> pragmaticenigma: old desktop.
[19:05] <pablos99> pragmaticenigma: the audio card is internal. I guess it's realtek (in windows). In Linux, shows up as Intel HDA or something like that
[19:06] <pragmaticenigma> pablos99: does it have an onboard graphics chip as well as your Nvidia card?
[19:06] <pablos99> pragmaticenigma: the MB does have onboard graphics. so is the audio
[19:06] <pablos99> pragmaticenigma: the MB does have onboard graphics. so is the audio
[19:06] <gigix> pragmaticenigma, he said 8500 GT so no
[19:07] <pablos99> pragmaticenigma: the intel video card is disabled though because I have the nvidia installed
[19:07] <pragmaticenigma> pablos99: Have you set BIOS to disable the on board graphics?
[19:07] <pablos99> pragmaticenigma: It is disabled when an external card is present
[19:08] <gigix> pablos99, in theory yes
[19:08] <oros> Hi again
[19:08] <pablos99> the intel driver was preinstalled, I guess it wasn't needed by the PC
[19:09] <pablos99> could xserver-xorg-video-all be the problem? I have no idea
[19:09] <pablos99> I will install it
[19:09] <oros> for some weird reason my flash (I think) have gone nuts. When viewing videos on youtube I can't use the "make larger" button (not the fullscreen one). Had some other issues as well. What can it be? the npviewer.bin?
[19:10] <pragmaticenigma> pablos99: The xserver-xorg-video-all contains generic graphics drivers for older hardware... but it may be needed by the Nvidia driver to work
[19:10] <pablos99> pragmaticenigma: nvidia works, but the problem with the audio came after removing that intel video driver + xorg .... all
[19:11] <pablos99> pragmaticenigma: installed xorg .... all. How do I '"reboot" the audio ?
[19:11] <pragmaticenigma> pablos99: There is a good chance they are required for the audio to work
[19:11] <pragmaticenigma> You will need to reboot the machine
[19:11] <pablos99> oh
[19:11] <pablos99> Ok. I'll come back :D . Ty
[19:12] <bvad> Question, Is it possible to set an environment variable in a .desktop file? Like I'd like to run this: "XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME gnome-control-center sound"
[19:12] <mafiaboy> hi how do i change font size in xterm
[19:13] <pragmaticenigma> mafiaboy: Better to use a different terminal application
[19:13] <beandog> agreed
[19:14] <glitsj16> oros: there's a known problem with recent flash on systems with Nvidia ... aka bluefaces .. anything your problem looks like?
[19:15] <bvad> glitsj16: THat
[19:15] <bvad> That's not a bug, it's feature
[19:15] <bvad> to stop smurf racism
[19:15] <glitsj16> bvad: heh
[19:15] <beandog> heh
[19:15] <Lunar_Lander> hi people
[19:15] <pablo99> pragmaticenigma: "Built in Audio Analog Stereo". Works now, thanks. Weird though.
[19:15] <Lunar_Lander> short question
[19:15] <oros> What do you mean with "anything my problem looks like"?
[19:16] <Lunar_Lander> where can I get Lubuntu?
[19:16] <pablo99> lunar_lander: www.lubuntu.net
[19:16] <Lunar_Lander> thanks!
[19:16] <donvito2> whats for lubuntu?
[19:16] <pablo99> ubuntu + lxde
[19:16] <pablo99> lighter ubuntu
[19:16] <glitsj16> oros: i wanted t ask if you get blueish tinted video in flash, but the smurfs showed up and things got .. well smurfed
[19:16] <donvito2> thanks
[19:16] <oros> When i pressed the "bigger screen" button, it just got marked, but no effekt. I can't get some other effects on some flashsites aswell.
[19:16] <oros> can't log into grooveshark for example
[19:17] <oros> No, not any blueish video :)
[19:17] <mobman> hi all! how do i generate a list of packages that have been installed from source i.e. not involving apt or aptitude?
[19:17] <glitsj16> oros: :)
[19:17] <beandog> mobman: you can't
[19:17] <pragmaticenigma> pablo99: Before you left I was going to mention... many chip manufacturers try to cut costs by putting multiple items on the same chip.  A lot of onboard graphics chips also include the audio with them.  In order to access the audio, the correct graphics driver has to be installed
[19:17] <beandog> mobman: they might be in /usr/local though
[19:18] <Chuck_Norris> !clone | mobman
[19:18] <donvito2> lubuntu looks like windows 7
[19:18] <pablo99> pragmaticenigma: Didn't know that. Thanks.  :)
[19:18] <donvito2> why ppl install lxde
[19:18] <pragmaticenigma> mobman: Most of those applications should be installed in /usr/local or in /opt
[19:18] <mobman> thanks beandog
[19:18] <beandog> mobman: good luck
[19:18] <mobman> thanks Chuck_Norris
[19:18] <glitsj16> oros: if there's an option to try upgrading your flash version, have you already tried that?
[19:18] <mobman> thanks pragmaticenigma
[19:18] <Chuck_Norris>  np
[19:18] <pablo99> Guys: A solution for my Nvidia refresh rate change problem? :D
[19:18] <oros> Gone have a loog :)
[19:19] <beandog> pragmaticenigma: I actually like that idea ... I don't like having a video card w/hdmi and video only.  lame.
[19:19] <oros> *look
[19:19] <Chuck_Norris> pablo99: what is your nvidia driver version?
[19:20] <pragmaticenigma> beandog: It's only handy in that situation... I currently have a DVI to HDMI converter on my box and have to hack my video driver so my tv will  allow audio from the analog inputs
[19:20] <pablo99> Chuck_norris: 259.49
[19:20] <kandle> hello!
[19:20] <oros> glitsj16: I have version 11.2, the r202 (the latest I think)
[19:20] <frank_> disconnect
[19:20] <pragmaticenigma> frank_: the command is /quit
[19:20] <beandog> pragmaticenigma: really?  now that is odd.  They don't both show up in the mixer and work independently?
[19:20] <micr0be> Sorry, but does someone know how can i change the default application opened by "gvfs-open" for a specific protocol ?
[19:21] <pablo99> Hmm. found something. Let me test
[19:21] <glitsj16> oros: yes, there goes the easy way out :)
[19:21] <oros> hehe :p
[19:21] <pragmaticenigma> beandog: No, the video card has no audio support, but it supports encryption which causes the tv to expect everything to come over the HDMI cable
[19:21] <Chuck_Norris> pablo99: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/nvidia ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:21] <beandog> seriously ....... modinfo nvidia doesn't work?
[19:21] <beandog> freek
[19:21] <faryshta> How can I browse the ubuntu music store by genre?
[19:21] <beandog> pragmaticenigma: ah, gotcha.
[19:21] <oros> btw, is there any program to convert a .avi file to dvd format? Want to burn a .avi file to a dvd :)
[19:21] <kandle> is there only one channel on this version of IRC?
[19:22] <gigix> oros, Handbrake ?
[19:22] <pragmaticenigma> oros: That is beyond the scope of this channel...
[19:22] <beandog> gigix: no, other way around
[19:22] <beandog> except not avi
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> oros  devede is a devil-do-all for dvd
[19:22] <oros> pragmaticenigma: sorry, thought I might as well ask while I was here, guess I was wrong then ^_^
[19:22] <oros> Thx for the tips guys :)
[19:23] <guntbert> kandle: freenode has a LOT of channels, type /join #freenode if you need help how to use the network
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> oros  vlc can convert formats, too
[19:23] <oros> ok :)
[19:23] <kandle> thanks
[19:23] <beandog> it's not just a matter of converting formats though
[19:23] <gigix> oros, ffmpeg too
[19:23] <beandog> making an MPEG2 is easy
[19:23] <beandog> Getting a DVD-compliant video and filesystem is not easy.
[19:23] <beandog> hence, use a proggie to do it all
[19:24] <oros> Ok, If I'm allowed to keep going off topic...? How do I make a .avi file to a dvd the easiest way then+
[19:24] <Snyp> When I type aticonfig --adapter=0  --od-getclocks it gives an error saying Get clocks failed for default adapter.
[19:24] <beandog> oros: what MonkeyDust said ^^
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> oros  "easiest" depends on what you prefer and how skilled you are
[19:24] <oros> Ok :)
[19:25] <micr0be> No one knows ? ( about gvfs-open ) sorry if i insist, but there is no manual for it, ...
[19:25] <oros> Gonna play around with it :)
[19:25] <kandle> what is a good, less populated channel?
[19:25] <Snyp> My fan is rotating at such high speed when i'm on ubuntu..
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> oros  always the best way to learn
[19:25] <oros> yepp :)
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> !alis | kandle
[19:26] <gigix> oros, what about this ? www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-convert-avi-to-dvd-iso-in-ubuntu.html
[19:26] <pablo99> Chuck_norris: I think I've found something? I have both: nvidia-settings 259.53 and nvidia-settings-updates 259.53. As far as I know nvidia_Current comes with -settings 259.33
[19:26] <oros> thx gigix :)
[19:26] <gigix> oros, simple google search
[19:26] <andai1> This might be the wrong place to ask... but can I use Regexes to replace a list of words by a list of each word twice?  Banana --> Banana Banana
[19:26] <Snyp> help me someone?
[19:26] <oros> I know :p I was here for the other issue really :p
[19:27] <gigix> Snyp, your config ? version of ubuntu ?
[19:27] <Snyp> 12.04
[19:27] <gigix> oros, no worries ;-)
[19:27] <Snyp> ati 5770
[19:27] <Chuck_Norris> pablo99: the PPA that i gave you has the latest nvidia driver in it, 295.59 try it
[19:27] <Snyp> intel ci3 2100
[19:27] <gigix> it's the fan of your graphic card that over-runs ?
[19:28] <Snyp> yes..
[19:28] <micr0be> Thanks for your help guys, its really nice :)
[19:28] <gigix> Snyp, which driver are you using ?
[19:28] <Chuck_Norris> pablo99: is the latest stable nvidia driver
[19:28] <pablo99> Chuck_norris: I have added before the x-swat one. The .59 does not work for me, wasted like 2 hours trying to get it to work
[19:28] <Snyp> ati fglrx or something like that, the one which was notified as "proprietary drivers available for your hardware"
[19:29] <pablo99> Just removed the x-swat repo, now the nvidia-settings 259.53 is gone
[19:29] <pablo99> I'll see if it works now.
[19:29] <Chuck_Norris> ok, remove x-swat, and install the PPA that i gave you recently
[19:29] <pablo99> It's installed. but if it's for 259.59, won't work :|
[19:29] <andai1> So I'm on Ubuntu live CD, and I have complaints! ( 1 ) Unity { eww } ( 2 ) touchpad not working. Can I run a command to enable it or something
[19:29] <Chuck_Norris> oh! sry, so if 259 doen't work so, idk but what is you nvidia card?
[19:29] <pablo99> How can I see what version it has? Cannot see in Synaptic
[19:30] <oros> andai1: I know, I don't like untity either. Just downloaded the ubuntu and installed it from the dvd without the gui, though it was like back in the days ;)
[19:30] <glitsj16> micr0be: gvfs-open is like xdg-open ... it opens files (on gvfs) with their registered default application .. something not working, erroring out in your case?
[19:30] <Chuck_Norris> pablo99: click in the dash and type: nvidia  and you will see the nvidia control panel
[19:30] <nathan_> I'm having trouble getting multiple monitors to work, my lspci, xorg.conf, and xorg.0.log are in this pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1042878/
[19:30] <hilo> Hello!!
[19:30] <gigix> Snyp, it seems quite usual that graphics hardware heats up more than on Windows because of better driver
[19:31] <pablo99> chuck_norris: not that. It's 259.49,. but the one I'll get if I upgrade
[19:31] <gigix> Snyp, if it reaches dangerous temperatures however, consider filing a bug
[19:31] <pablo99> hmm
[19:31] <micr0be> glitsj16 thanks, in fact i want gvfs-open to use file-browser instead of web-browser for FTP protocol :)
[19:31] <pablo99> ran the upgrade.
[19:31] <pablo99> nothing was upgraded
[19:32] <Snyp> yeah.. it does reach some bad temperatures above 70 deg. :\
[19:32] <andai1> so my question without the fluff: LiveCD on laptop, touchpad dead ( was not dead in ubuntu in 2009 ) help?
[19:32] <Chuck_Norris> so, did you try 259.59?
[19:32] <TheJumper> good evening. is there anything like srs wow for pulseaudio?
[19:32] <Chuck_Norris> i had problems only with 295.40
[19:32] <gigix> anything below 80 is usually ok
[19:32] <pablo99> chuck_norris: I tried it before from the x swat. It did not work, and I switched to the default, post-release one, which is .49
[19:33] <gigix> specially for powerful graphic cards
[19:33] <pablo99> check_norris: I now have that ppa enabled but it does not get updated
[19:33] <Snyp> But the fan speed is so unusually fast.. and a constant speed.
[19:33] <Snyp> *at a
[19:34] <Chuck_Norris> pablo99: idk, if noone works idk how to do =( 302 was too unstable for me as well
[19:34] <gigix> Snyp, I've got a HD5830 and it's running hot as well. How was it without the fglrx driver ?
[19:34] <pablo99> chuck_norris : 302?
[19:34] <Chuck_Norris> ye, but its beta
[19:34] <pablo99> chuck_norris : are you running ubuntu?
[19:34] <Snyp> Same..
[19:35] <Chuck_Norris> yes
[19:35] <pablo99> chuck_norris: I have no idea. The PPA is enabled. It does not upgrade
[19:35] <BluesKaj> Chuck_Norris, pablo99 , i tried the 302 driver and it worked fine on 7600gt
[19:36] <andai1> k, screw you guys, i'm gonna get a mouse >__>
[19:36] <Chuck_Norris> my gt 520, pablo99 which PPA?
[19:36] <pablo99> http://ppa.launchpad.net/upubuntu-com/nvidia/ubuntu
[19:36] <pablo99> that one
[19:37] <antoniuccio> to /home/antonio/.xchat2/buduscript
[19:37] <hilo> Can someone tell me if there is a way to compare files in a directory (recursively as well so that all subdirs are included), and then copy the changed and deleted files to a third location. The idea would be to do this before running rsync so that the files that get deleted and updated are backed up somewhere else.
[19:37] <gigix> Chuck_Norris, how many ppas have you tried so far ?
[19:37] <Chuck_Norris> gigix: a lot
[19:38] <Chuck_Norris> time to eat brb
[19:38] <pablo99> Removed the newer ver. of nvidia-settings. Rebooting
[19:38] <gigix> Chuck_Norris, did you run ppa-purge to disable them and REVERT the changes done by each ppa ?
[19:38] <Chuck_Norris> launch*
[19:38] <BluesKaj> pablo99, have you tried the any proprietary drivers from the nvidia site
[19:39] <Chuck_Norris> gigix: no, i know about that command but, i just uncheck the PPA from "Software Sources" and then, sudo apt-get update, thats all, brb
[19:39] <andai1> does ubuntu prevent you from connecting to ad hoc wifi?
[19:40] <glitsj16> micr0be: have you tried setting your preferred ftp app via xdg-mime yet? like 'query default x-scheme-handler/ftp' to see your present ftp app and 'xdg-mime default /path/to/your/ftp/app.desktop x-scheme-handler/ftp' to change apps? I have no knowledge if gvfs-open picks defaults from mime or not, so this is another stab, not experience
[19:40] <gigix> Chuck_Norris, disabling the ppa undoes nothing unfortunately...you may have ended up with mixing version of packages from different ppa which is very bad.
[19:40] <andai1> it's greyed out in the notification icon network selector, and when i go to Networks i can click on it but that doesn't do anything either
[19:41] <gigix> Chuck_Norris, so before trying out one ppa you have to ppa-purge the one you are currently trying
[19:41] <micr0be> Thanks glitsj16 i'm gonna check :)
[19:41] <flo1> hi, I can't watch livestream tv with the lightspark or gnash plugin. can I do anything but install the adobe plugin?
[19:42] <pablo99> :|
[19:42] <gigix> flo1, most of the livestream stuff uses recent version of flash, so unfortunately yes you have to.
[19:42] <glitsj16> micr0be: if things don't work you can always fallback to what you had, so it's a safe attempt
[19:43] <micr0be> Okay :) so i dont risk to arm my system, great, thanks again
[19:43] <flo1> gigix, thanks -- )-: grumble...
[19:44] <Chuck_Norris> gigix: i know i tell him disable the x-swat PPA and try the one i gave him
[19:44] <Chuck_Norris> gigix: why you question me?
[19:44] <gigix> Chuck_Norris, sorry mate I was confused
[19:45] <Chuck_Norris> i just uncheck the PPA and do: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:45] <Chuck_Norris> all are confused with and all searching fights whit me, idk why
[19:45] <Chuck_Norris> confused with me*...
[19:45] <pablo99>    Option         "metamodes" "1280x1024_85 +0+0; 1280x1024 +0+0" Is this correct? It pisses me off already
[19:45] <gigix> Chuck_Norris, no no, unchecking the ppa just updates the package list available, but does not revert the changes
[19:46] <pablo99> chuck_norris: could you pastebin your xorg.conf for me please??
[19:46] <Chuck_Norris> yes is revert doing: sudo apt-get upgrade then
[19:46] <glitsj16> micr0be: one thing that perhaps wasn't very clear in the code to change defaults (the second bit) ... it needs a .desktop file, so i assumed you woulb de familiar with making/editing those .. if needed we can help out there
[19:46] <k1l> for deleting PPAs try ppa-purge
[19:47] <Chuck_Norris> pablo99: i'm on my notebook right now and i have a Intel in it, i can't do that sry
[19:47] <guntbert> Chuck_Norris: nobody is trying to fight with you - just one point of this channel is peer review - people point out if there is something wrong
[19:47] <pablo99> :). ok np
[19:47] <micr0be> glitsj16, 'xdg-mime query default x-scheme-handler/ftp' return nothing ... But no error ..
[19:47] <flo1> thanks, bye
[19:47] <pablo99> Anybody with an nVidia card? That works fine?
[19:47] <jost> yes
[19:48] <pablo99> jost? Got nvidia?
[19:48] <glitsj16> micr0be: ok, can you succesfully change it to your preferred app?
[19:48] <Chuck_Norris> yes, i know allway read users that seems like waiting for my mistake to have a reason for fight agains me
[19:48] <jost> jep
[19:48] <pablo99> jost. could you please paste your xorg.conf to pastebin?
[19:48] <Chuck_Norris> insted of helping
[19:48]  * shaneo is away: I'm busy
[19:49] <guntbert> Chuck_Norris: I repeat: no one is trying to fight here :)
[19:49]  * beandog gives Chuck_Norris a cookie
[19:49] <jost> pablo99, where is it located?
[19:49] <guntbert> !away > shaneo
[19:49] <micr0be> glitsj16, i'm confused coz i'm as noob as i cant even know what's the command to launch my file-browser  :/
[19:49] <k1l> pablo99: what do you need?
[19:49] <shaneo> sorry guys
[19:49]  * shaneo is back (gone 00:00:49)
[19:49] <pablo99> jost: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     Thanks
[19:50] <k1l> jost: no!
[19:50] <pablo99> k1l. A working xorg.conf
[19:50] <glitsj16> micr0be: no problem, usually nautilus is default, but the help menu should clear that up for you
[19:50] <k1l> pablo99: dont use sudo with gui apps
[19:50] <gigix> Chuck_Norris, http://onubuntu.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/reverting-ppa-packages.html
[19:50] <pablo99> k1l, why>? I always do that
[19:50] <k1l> pablo99: it messes with the rights
[19:50] <guntbert> !gksudo | pablo99
[19:50] <micr0be> I'll check that glitsj16, i think it's not nautilus, i'm on backbox-linux based on ubuntu
[19:50] <jost> pablo99, http://pastebin.com/6N7THvyA
[19:51] <Guest27028> i have a question about running downloads off crome
[19:51] <hanscom> what is is b ?
[19:51] <pablo99> jost: thanks, but that's not all of it, I need it all if you can:)
[19:51] <k1l> pablo99: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1042895/
[19:51] <Chuck_Norris> xD stop writing my, i don't need help, i'm not a noob, i don't ask for help, i know how to deal with PPA at my way
[19:51] <k1l> pablo99: but i dont know, why you just dont use the nvidia-settings
[19:52] <jost> pablo99, it is all of it
[19:52] <glitsj16> micr0be: yes, check the exact path to a .desktop file for whatever you are using, that's the syntax you'll need
[19:52] <jost> but theres a ton of other stuff in that directory
[19:52] <guntbert> Chuck_Norris: you may deal with your system as you like - we are talking about the advice you give
[19:52] <hanscom> I am on Linux Mint right now
[19:52] <guntbert> !mint | hanscom
[19:52] <gozon> server elchat.com 6667
[19:52] <Guest27028> annyone?
[19:53] <pablo99> k1l: Thanks. I use NVidia settings. But the Refresh rate always resets after reboot. What is TwinView 1 for?
[19:53] <hanscom> Something about your Chrome problem >
[19:53] <hanscom> ?
[19:53] <guntbert> !ask | Guest27028
[19:53] <k1l> pablo99: i have dualmonitor setup
[19:53] <Chuck_Norris> and what i do wrong this time guntbert ?
[19:53] <pablo99> k1l: 2 monitors/
[19:53] <jost> pablo99, I've never touched my xorg.conf, but used the proprietary drivers installed by apt
[19:53] <pablo99> oh
[19:53] <pablo99> k1l. are you suing the 285 driver?
[19:53] <Chuck_Norris> i don't use ppa-purge becouse its doesent work for me earlier in 10.04
[19:54] <gigix> pablo99, what about creating a fresh xorg using "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[19:54] <guntbert> Chuck_Norris: gigix pointed it out - you forgot to tell the user about ppa-purge
[19:54] <Chuck_Norris> i'm talking about 2 years ago
[19:54] <pablo99> gigix. I did, tens of times
[19:54] <pablo99> It worked on lubuntu. It sticked
[19:54] <gigix> pablo99, with a reboot before doing anything right ?
[19:54] <pablo99> yes
[19:54] <liverpvl> !list
[19:55] <Chuck_Norris> i just say: "disable it" if he will need help on it, i will writing he how to doit
[19:55] <k1l> pablo99: sure you write to the xorg  file when setting it in nvidia-settings?
[19:55] <pablo99> installed nvidia, generated, rebooted, changed settins, rebooted. reset.
[19:55] <pablo99> Yes
[19:55] <pablo99> yes k1l
[19:55] <gigix> and created a new one after every ppa try ?
[19:56] <pablo99> gigix, yes
[19:56] <gigix> with proper ppa-purge in between tries ?
[19:56] <pablo99> I would update it, but they push 259.59m and that does not work for me
[19:57] <antoniuccio> tar xvzf buduscript_3740_xxx.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2
[19:57] <antoniuccio> cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript
[19:57] <yidden> I need to make a xorg.conf to work with an IBM G78 CRT screen and I don't remember how... http://xkcd.com/963/
[19:57] <guntbert> antoniuccio: wrong window?
[19:58] <gigix> pablo99, do you see this issue with nouveau (open source driver originally installed before you chose to install the proprietary one) ?
[19:58] <pablo99> gigix, none
[19:59] <pablo99> retrying the 259.59. But I think it won't work
[20:00] <pablo99> gigix. The problem is: the drivers in jockey don't match the ones that install with "apt-get install nvidia-current/-current-updated"
[20:01] <pablo99> ok, removed nvidia. How do I reconfigure xorg for the opensource?
[20:01] <xilef> hi
[20:02] <xilef> havinf trouble with 2 screen  with nvidia?
[20:02] <pablo99> xilef. what's the problem?
[20:02] <xilef> just asking, I couldn't get 2 screen workin
[20:03] <xilef> until i i¿uninstalled the nvidia crontrolers
[20:03] <gigix> pablo99, if you removed it via jockey then it should have handled the return to nouveau
[20:03] <pablo99> gigix. removed manually via apt-get
[20:03] <pablo99> added Section "Device"
[20:03] <pablo99> Identifier "n"
[20:03] <pablo99> Driver "nouveau"
[20:03] <pablo99> EndSection
[20:03] <pablo99> to my xorg
[20:03] <FloodBot1> pablo99: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:06] <gigix> pablo99, looks good to me
[20:07] <sontek> in 12.04 is there a way to 'autohide' the menubar up top?
[20:07] <j-rock> hey all, is there a way to switch to 64 bit post install?
[20:08] <j-rock> I could only find a i386 cd
[20:08] <guntbert> j-rock: no, you need to reinstall
[20:08] <sontek> j-rock: You can but its usually scary, not recommended, and you could break things
[20:08] <gigix> pablo99, if you're happy with the nouveau driver, stick with it then :)
[20:08] <gigix> j-rock: re-install
[20:08] <j-rock> sontek: got a link/doc?
[20:09] <gigix> http://superuser.com/questions/129222/upgrade-ubuntu-from-32-to-64-bit-edition
[20:09] <Chuck_Norris> gigix: pablo has quit
[20:10] <gigix> Chuck_Norris: oops just saw that :S
[20:10] <cuddylier> How do I extend my file open limit again? The commands for ssh?
[20:10] <j-rock> gigix: frustrating, thanks.
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> !download | j-rock
[20:11] <yidden> is there any Nouveau driver config tool similar to what Nvidia's blob config manager?
[20:11] <gigix> yidden, if you mean a tool for adjusting the resolution and connected screens then it's the tools in the system settings
[20:12] <yidden> gigix yeah, but that doesn't recognise my monitor properly
[20:12] <nitro> wtf is this http://www.amazon.com/Ubuntu-4-discs-Installation-Reference-Ed-2012/dp/B0047B0U1C/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1339790827&sr=8-7&keywords=linux
[20:13] <ubuntu> hi
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> nitra pack of ubuntu install media...
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Guest42694: ^
[20:13] <Guest42694> its allready free why buy it
[20:14] <andai1> I have my home folder on the same partition as everything else. I want to do a fresh install but keep all my stuff ( user preferences etc )
[20:14] <Guest3739> i don't know
[20:14] <toxster> i have a kvm host, the kvm host has a guest, that has 2 interfaces, one for LAN one for WAN, it's set to NAT outgoing from LAN, other LAN clients cannot connect to anything on the internet, but my precise kvm host cannot connect to anything (it can ping and do dns lookups thought) what am i missing
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Guest42694: some people don't have fast connections or unlimited bandwidth
[20:14] <AceFace> i have this setup in the office: http://i.imgur.com/KKc22.png , i want to put a service on the computer marked with an arrow, and be able to putty into it, so i can access the server rack via ssh, does anyone know how to do that?
[20:14] <Guest3739> quit
[20:14] <andai1> Should I use a new username for this install, or is it safe to use an existing one?
[20:14] <Guest42694> report the scamer
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> andai1: use your backups
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Guest42694: I suggest you check the Ubuntu policy...it's fine
[20:14] <andai1> ActionParsnip: Can't I just del everything but the homefolder?
[20:15] <gigix> andai1, backup
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> andai1: I guess, yu could do it in live CD, using backups is a bit more graceful
[20:15] <gigix> andai1, and create a separate /home directory on your next install
[20:15] <andai1> ActionParsnip: By backup do you mean copy it somewhere else first, then copy it back?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> andai1: yes, you should be doing that regularly in case your disk fails etc
[20:16] <Guest42694> ok
[20:17] <andai1> if i had money for more hard drives I'd be running windows :D
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Guest42694: " Your right to sell or give away the software alone, or as part of an aggregate software distribution, is important" http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/licensing
[20:18] <andai1> so, if I copy/rename my old home dir, are the accounts gonna show up in the login screen?
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> andai1: you will need to recreate the account(s)
[20:18] <andai1> It's a few releases old, should I delete the configs too?
[20:18] <andai1> ActionParsnip: and then copy all or part over them?
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> andai1: but the same home folder data may be used, I suggest you chown it to the user too to cover any access issues
[20:20] <andai1> ActionParsnip: does ownership work on literal name strings, or numerical userids? i.e. if i recreate the accounts with the same names, won't they inherit the files
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> andai1: the names are just abstractions for UIDs
[20:20] <andai1> ActionParsnip: so... maybe? :D
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> andai1: UIDs are numbers, so you will need to chown the data to the new user so that the right UID owns the data
[20:21] <andai1> ActionParsnip: So it's gonna change from andai to andai?
[20:22] <go8765> Hello. Can I found help here with flash-drive problems? (not ubuntu question)
[20:22] <a|i> where is the home for user 'nobody'?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> andai1: yes but the name is just a mask for yuor UID which is probably 1000 but may change after the install
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> a|i: you can read /etc/passwd    and see :)
[20:24] <a|i> ActionParsnip: nobody:x:65534:65534:nobody:/nonexistent:/bin/sh
[20:25] <a|i> so it's /nonexistent?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> a|i: then it's nonexistent
[20:25] <a|i> ls: cannot access /nonexistent: No such file or directory
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> a|i: if you run:  cat /etc/passwd | grep $USER    you will see the format
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> a|i: I believe it just means there isn't one
[20:26] <a|i> ActionParsnip: so where should the config files for nobody go?
[20:26] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> Why do you need config files for nobody?
[20:27] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> The purpose of the account is to be a dummy account that does nothing.
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> a|i: Not sure tbh, didn't think nobody could log in..
[20:27] <Dean312312312> hey
[20:27] <a|i> a lot of srrvers are run by nobody for security reasons.
[20:28] <Cottus> hey hey hey
[20:28] <Cottus> <Crusty the Clown>
[20:28]  * gold1990 slaps Dean312312312 around a bit with a large trout
[20:28] <Dean312312312> lol
[20:30] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> I'm on a fresh install of 12.04 server, and for some reason I can't install libperl5.14, it claims it does not exist even though packages.ubuntu.com says it does, my lists have just been updated from the main mirror too. Any advice?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> !info libperl5.14
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> HOLOGRAPHICpizza: have you ran:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libperl5.14
[20:33] <catcher> I'm using accurate OpenDNS nameservers in my resolv.conf, and my default gateway is proper (and pingable), yet I can't resolve hostnames. What should I check next?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> catcher: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> catcher: then retry
[20:34] <catcher> ActionParsnip, replacing the openDNS nameservers with 8.8.8.8?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> catcher: worth a try
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> catcher: can you ping your default gateway
[20:34] <catcher> ActionParsnip, is that google's?
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> catcher: indeed, dead easy to remember
[20:35] <catcher> ActionParsnip, sure can
[20:35] <catcher> I'll give it a shot, ty
[20:35] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> ActionParsnip: yes
[20:35] <rmd6503> Anyone know why dapper is not in the archives? I can't update my computer
[20:35] <xangua> !eol | rmd6503
[20:36] <rmd6503> thanks bot
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> rmd6503: dapper is super dead
[20:36] <Pro_Lamer4e> ko staa mi6lenca
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> HOLOGRAPHICpizza: can you ping web based sites?
[20:37] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> ActionParsnip: yep
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> HOLOGRAPHICpizza: are you fully upgraded for the other apps?
[20:38] <HOLOGRAPHICpizza> ActionParsnip: as far as I know, it says no packages to update
[20:38] <clone1018> How can I completely disable the unity bar? I have cairo dock instead.
[20:38] <Meridious> install a different WM is one way
[20:38] <catcher> ActionParsnip, why does piped tee have access to resolv.conf, but a straight-up redirect doesn't?
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> clone1018: could install gnome-panel and use the fallback session, then run cairo there
[20:40] <tippenein> I'm having troubles with nvidia and x
[20:40] <tippenein> nvidia-settings says i'm not using NVIDIA X drivers
[20:41] <andai1> so... I found a mouse, so i could go to the mouse settings and enable my touchpad... the "Mouse and Touchpad" settings screen does not mention touchpads!
[20:42] <Vexen> dafuqw
[20:42] <tippenein> under Hardware Drivers it sats I'm using NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> catcher: sudo doesn't traverse redirections, so:  sudo echo "stuff" > file    doesn't work
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> catcher: the only thing there with sudo power is echo, so you pipe the text to sudo tee and you get the file changed
[20:42] <catcher> ActionParsnip, ahh, right. ty
[20:43] <catcher> ActionParsnip, that said, no love from google's DNS either.  Anything else I can try, or is it time to contact the cloud's network staff?
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> catcher: if you run:  route    do you have the default route set to your network adapter?
[20:46] <catcher> ActionParsnip, am I looking for the default destination?
[20:46] <clone1018> ActionParsnip: I like all of unity besides the bar on the left, I still want the launcher thingy and other stuff
[20:46] <clone1018> Meridious: I like unity, I don't like the bar
[20:46] <Vexen> Same here.
[20:46] <Vexen> I like how it fullscreens.
[20:46] <fmt1> can't find an appropriate channel for this, but thought there might be knowledgeable people on this here. what's this difference between tcp/ip protocols and tcp/ip utilities?
[20:46] <Vexen> But the bar should have configuration options.
[20:48] <fmt1> anyone know?
[20:48] <catcher> ActionParsnip, my default route destination is connected to the proper gateway, and the destination for my network's gateway is *
[20:48] <tippenein> nvidia doesn't show up in a grep of lspci either
[20:49] <tippenein> lshw*
[20:50] <tippenein> lshw -C video shows *-display unclaimed
[20:50] <minas> can wine run .net 4.0 applications (with XNA)?
[20:51] <fmt1> what's this difference between tcp/ip protocols and tcp/ip utilities?
[20:51] <Chuck_Norris> minas: it not possible run .NET 4 on wine
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> fmt1  a protocol is a way of communicating, a utility is a program
[20:51] <minas> Chuck_Norris: Not even for you? :)
[20:51] <Chuck_Norris> but you can run .NET 2
[20:51] <fmt1> so a utility is software?
[20:51] <gigix> fmt1, where did you see this tcp/ip stuff
[20:51] <minas> Chuck_Norris: ;)
[20:52] <fmt1> From a book on TCP/IP.
[20:52] <gigix> fmt1, yes it is, it's what helps you set up your TCP/IP connection
[20:52] <fmt1> MonkeyDust: Just wanted some clarification on that. Appreciate it.
[20:52] <gigix> or configure it
[20:52] <gigix> and the protocol is the actual way the data are sent
[20:53] <gigix> on a low-level approach usually
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> fmt1  gangstas have a different way of communicating than civil servants, a different protocol
[20:53] <minas> Chuck_Norris: Thanks by the way
[20:53] <Chuck_Norris> minas: yes, i installed .NET 2 with the winetricks subversion
[20:53] <Chuck_Norris> minas: what is the program that you wanna to run?
[20:54] <minas> Chuck_Norris: It's a game I have created my self
[20:55] <Chuck_Norris> oh! ok, i suggest you trying with Mono
[20:56] <ceti331__> is it possible to get dock shortcut icons for the desktops in ubuntu unity
[20:56] <Vexen> Workspaces?
[20:56] <ceti331__> e.g. 1 click to get to a desktop
[20:56] <Vexen> ...Wait. In Unity?
[20:57] <ceti331__> (like the old gnome-panel desktop map)
[20:57] <Vexen> Hm.
[20:57] <passionfruit> Hello, I have a question. I was running Ubuntu 12.04 on my mac through VMware, and I pressed the F3 key, and the screen on the virtual machine split up into a grid of screens, and everything zoomed out. On the mac the F3 key shows all the windows of all applications running. What should I do?
[20:57] <Vexen> Yes, I know that button.
[20:57] <Vexen> No idea how to get it though.
[20:57] <ceti331__> another 'itch' i have,
[20:58] <ceti331__> on the old style panel i'd like something which uses the name of the topmost window in each desktop as the desktop name
[20:58] <andai1> ok, just did clean install, how do I "import" my old homefolder? Create users, copy files, chown?
[20:58] <Vexen> Uh huh.
[20:58] <Vexen> Though.
[20:58] <Vexen> Ever thought about just reinstalling the old GNOME?
[20:58] <ceti331__> :)
[20:58] <ceti331__> i like unity
[20:58] <Vexen> Which can be done by sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[20:59] <Vexen> Ah.
[20:59] <ceti331__> i like both
[20:59] <GeeksOnHugs> have you guys played with the disk ussage analyzer?  It's the coolest disk analyzer ever, it's even fun...and it's a disk analyzer :P
[20:59] <ceti331__> unlike the rest of the world, i think Unity's idea of unified menu/title bar is awesome, because the Amiga did it.
[20:59] <Vexen> Analize. Such a word.
[20:59] <zallx> any tuners around ?
[21:00] <zallx> tvtuners
[21:00] <celthunder> GeeksOnHugs: ? df du vmstat and iostat?
[21:00] <Vexen> I like that thing too. Only thing I really hate is lack of panel configuration options and the BAR.
[21:00] <guntbert> !ot | ceti331__ Vexen
[21:00] <celthunder> zallx: newegg.com / amazon.com
[21:00] <GeeksOnHugs> celthunder lol bra, what language is that
[21:01] <celthunder> GeeksOnHugs: uhm disk analyzer tools.
[21:01] <GeeksOnHugs> oh hehe
[21:01] <ceti331__> is there a way of getting a single click icon for each desktop (with thumbnail relating to desktop contents) in ubuntu-unity
[21:01] <GeeksOnHugs> no, I'm new to ubuntu
[21:01] <GeeksOnHugs> i have a windows background, but I'm totally loving this
[21:01] <ceti331__> ubuntu > windows
[21:01] <celthunder> ceti331__: yes probably.  look at mouse settings.
[21:02] <GeeksOnHugs> I have the standard ubuntu desktop install and it has a program with a disk analyzer...ringcharts which I've never seen before
[21:02] <celthunder> you can usually set single/double click options
[21:02] <GeeksOnHugs> ceti331__ agreed
[21:02] <celthunder> GeeksOnHugs: meh.  I will stick with the console
[21:02] <GeeksOnHugs> windows is easier, that's the only advantage...I have a SSD and my ubuntu loads up faster than my android tablet
[21:02] <guntbert> GeeksOnHugs: please keep in mind that this channel is for support - join #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat about ubuntu
[21:02] <GeeksOnHugs> console as in command line?
[21:03] <mneptok> this>that discussions are offtopic, folks.
[21:04] <GeeksOnHugs> I thought linux was all counter cultural and anti-authority and stick it to the man and so why all the police officers? :(
[21:04] <i7c> GeeksOnHugs: it's much about how you are used to it. i use ubuntu quite a while and i find it much simpler and easier than windows
[21:04] <mneptok> GeeksOnHugs: a 1700+ memeber channel dedicated to support. there's no room for banter.
[21:05] <ssta> GeeksOnHugs: there's #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[21:05] <GeeksOnHugs> i7c I so hope to get there...when things go good it's no problem, but when I break something I can get lost...like I added a repository by the command line and it broke my ubuntu software center and I thought I was hosed (but eventually figured out how to edit a file called profiles to remove the added repositories
[21:05] <GeeksOnHugs> mneptok and ssta ... ok sorry :)
[21:05] <Anjar_95> I have a little problem: Ubuntu can't detect all the disc space on the partition. When I open the partition manager, it says there's 109 GB, Nautilus only shows 59 GB.
[21:06] <GeeksOnHugs> is it compressed?
[21:06] <mneptok> Anjar_95: is Nautilus sowing only free space?
[21:06] <mneptok> *showing
[21:06] <Anjar_95> Nope, it says 3 GB free.
[21:06] <GeeksOnHugs> join ubuntu-offtopic
[21:06] <mneptok> Anjar_95: what filesystem?
[21:06] <GeeksOnHugs> oops
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Anjar_95: what does: df -h    output
[21:06] <Meridious> lol
[21:07] <Anjar_95> ext4
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Anjar_95: the free space...
[21:07] <Anjar_95> /dev/sda1        58G   52G  3,2G  95% /
[21:07] <Anjar_95> udev            486M   12K  486M   1% /dev
[21:07] <mneptok> Anjar_95: you might want to run an fsck.ext4 on it before trying too many things.
[21:07] <Anjar_95> tmpfs           199M  932K  198M   1% /run
[21:07] <Anjar_95> none            5,0M     0  5,0M   0% /run/lock
[21:07] <Anjar_95> none            497M  376K  496M   1% /run/shm
[21:07] <FloodBot1> Anjar_95: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:08] <celthunder> did you format the rest of it with an fs?
[21:08] <celthunder> or is it just an empty partition not partitioned or ?
[21:08] <andai1> who decides what ubuntu looks like? I remember the brown from 2006, this is quite a sheck to me :D
[21:08] <andai1> is there like an art committee
[21:09] <celthunder> andai1: you decide.
[21:09] <mneptok> andai1: it's decided at UDS and in blueprints on LP
[21:09] <Anjar_95> I'm not sure...
[21:09] <ssta> does it matter who decides?  it's trivial to change
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> andai1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[21:09] <patc> hello, is it possible to mount a luks device on a remote computer using ssh, with the key-file being on the local computer? So we need to sudo cryptsetup luksopen...... and to pass the keyfile. Is this possible If yes, how please?
[21:09] <celthunder> Anjar_95: fdisk /dev/sda
[21:10] <celthunder> Anjar_95: then press p and itll show you your partitions
[21:11] <celthunder> if you have an sda2 according to the above its not mounted
[21:11] <Anjar_95> Screen dump of partition: http://ubuntuone.com/6jYIueNgTfntJ1IGDikKPk
[21:11] <tippenein> this is the result of my lshw -C video: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1043005/
[21:12] <celthunder> Anjar_95:  effsck /dev/sda1
[21:12] <celthunder> Anjar_95: er e2fsck
[21:14] <andai1> if i install new window managers, don't they show up in the login screen?
[21:14] <celthunder> patc: mount your local fs on the remote system?
[21:14] <celthunder> andai1: sometimes
[21:14] <andai1> patc
[21:15] <andai1> celthunder: like... xubuntu-desktop? :P
[21:15] <celthunder> andai1: depends on your window and desktop manager combinations
[21:15] <patc> celthunder: euh... maybe... didn't think about that...  the idea is to mount the luks drive and to backup to it... but i want to keep the keyfile with me
[21:15] <celthunder> andai1: probably should work with gdm / kdm by default
[21:15] <patc> andai1: ?
[21:15] <Brun0L3z> Hello people, just wanted to ask what is the best virtual machine for ubuntu? i have tried virtualbox and did not succeeed
[21:15] <celthunder> andai1: you can always add them if they dont show up
[21:16] <patc> celthunder: the luks drive is attached to the remote server
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Brun0L3z: there is no single outright best of anything, on any OS
[21:16] <celthunder> Brun0L3z: depends on objective.  im partial to kvm
[21:16] <andai1> celthunder: unfortunately i have ... what's it called? the new one? :D
[21:16] <Mike9863> I have a web server running on my computer, however I'm unable to access it via a virtualbox running on the same computer. Why is this?
[21:16] <andai1> patc: Sorry, i derped
[21:16] <patc> andai1: oki np :)
[21:16] <celthunder> andai1: idk? i dont use a desktop manager.
[21:17] <sacarlson> Mike9863: you might be running your virtualbox in nat mode, try it in bridge mode
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Mike9863: set the interface to bridged, you will get an IP from your router and appear on the same network, should help
[21:17] <celthunder> Mike9863: port/ip its listening on iptables file permissions...
[21:17] <n-iCe> Question, I create an ad-hoc connection using network-manager, my iphone detects it I can connect and everything works fine, but my play station 3 does not detect it, any idea?
[21:17] <ipv6hermit> hello people, I have a question I'm using xubuntu and I installed compiz.  I run compiz --relace ccp and it starts normally.  what is the proper way to make it the default window manager.  I tried two ways and they do not seem to be reliable
[21:17] <andai1> uh...  anyone know how to add WM selection to the... ubuntu's new default login thing?
[21:17] <celthunder> n-iCe: enter the network manually on the ps3 it may not auto set itself up on adhoc
[21:18] <n-iCe> celthunder: tried, did not work :<
[21:18] <sacarlson> Mike9863: I would think even in nat mode you could see your web if you put the correct ip address that it see's it at
[21:18] <celthunder> ipv6hermit: .xinitrc
[21:18] <andai1> ...anyone know what ubuntu's new login thing is _called_ ?
[21:18] <Mike9863> Thanks everyone. That solved it.
[21:18] <celthunder> sacarlson: Mike9863 more details.
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> andai1: lightdm
[21:19] <Jordan_U> patc: '--key-file -' then send the key file via stdin.
[21:19] <patc> Jordan_U: how do you send it via stdin? i'm not sure i understand
[21:19] <sacarlson> Mike9863: ya maybe your apache2 isn't listening so take a peak at sudo netstat -pant
[21:20] <andai1> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[21:20] <ipv6hermit> celthunder: what do I add?
[21:20] <patc> Jordan_U: and for the "sudo " part?... needs to be root to mount... and I don't want to ssh as root... bad idea ;)
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> andai1: np
[21:20] <ipv6hermit> celthunder: /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc???
[21:20] <ipv6hermit> celthunder: or /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc?
[21:21] <celthunder> ipv6hermit: ~/.xinitrc .
[21:21] <ipv6hermit> celthunder: I don't have this file
[21:21] <celthunder> thats where i put all my mods and stuff. might have to put it in your desktop managers file if it doesnt execute your own .xinitrc (which is irritating if it doessnt)
[21:22] <ipv6hermit> celthunder: I added a /etc/xdg/autostart/compiz.desktop file and it did not always work.
[21:22] <ipv6hermit> which was irritating
[21:23] <GeeksOnHugs> ssta mneptopic, we got kick out of #undroid-offtopic for being too on topic :(  where do we go now?
[21:23] <celthunder> ipv6hermit: then stop using crap that doesnt work or file a bug report after finding the problem ?
[21:23] <celthunder> GeeksOnHugs: to lunch
[21:23] <GeeksOnHugs> *snicker* :D
[21:24] <ssta> GeeksOnHugs: I dunno.  #hottub?  #u-o doesn't tend to mind too much if you'rte accidentally on topic
[21:24] <ipv6hermit> celthunder: i like crap that doesn't work.  so which is the correct way to start compiz?
[21:25] <GeeksOnHugs> actually I have work todo, there's an idea...still amazes me how people goofed off at work off before computers
[21:25] <Jordan_U> patc: If it weren't for sudo I would say something like this: cat keyfile | ssh user@host "cryptsetup --keyfile - ..."
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> GeeksOnHugs: books exist
[21:26] <patc> Jordan_U: thansk for the idea, i'll have a look :)
[21:26] <Jordan_U> patc: Try asking in #bash for how best to work entering the password for sudo into that.
[21:26] <GeeksOnHugs> in middle school english class I would spend all day looking up sex oriented words in the dictionary
[21:27] <patc> Jordan_U: ooh! is #bash a forum also?
[21:27] <Jordan_U> patc: An IRC channel, yes.
[21:27] <celthunder> patc: channel
[21:27] <patc> Jordan_U: great! I didn't know! good idea, thanks a lot! :)
[21:28] <patc> celthunder: yes oki thanks
[21:28] <Jordan_U> patc: You're welcome.
[21:28] <benn> is there a more simple way to hack a wifi other then aircrack?
[21:28] <benn> i mean lunix most have a software to hack a wifi pass
[21:29] <sms> hi pless filse (gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list)
[21:29] <ssta> benn: aircrack is the only one I know of
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> sms: can you rephrase please
[21:29] <benn> ok,ok
[21:30] <ipv6hermit> hey guys, what is the correct way to start compiz in a xfce4 session?
[21:31] <sacarlson> patc: you should be able to setup passwordless login over ssh if you setup keys for ssh on the server side if the admin on that side will set it up
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> ipv6hermit: press ALT+F2 and run: compiz --replace
[21:31] <dougl> where should I begin to look for software to interface my UPS to my 12.04 server?
[21:31] <patc> sacarlson: yes, done, but it doesn't allow to sudo commands
[21:32] <ssta> patc: you can setup passwordless sudo for specific commands too
[21:32] <hattorihanzo> man, i have a weird python 2.7 issue in 12.04
[21:32] <sacarlson> patc: oh your user on that remote does it have sudo priv?
[21:32] <hattorihanzo> i just setup 2 vms, bothing runing server 12.04
[21:32] <hattorihanzo> 1 is fine
[21:32] <hattorihanzo> but the other
[21:32] <sms> ubnutu 12 .4
[21:32] <man> hattorihanzo: which issues?
[21:32] <patc> sacarlson: ssta : ooh I didn't know that I could activate sudo for certain commands...
[21:33] <ssta> patc: yep, sudoers is really very powerful and flexible
[21:33] <hattorihanzo> dist-packages/python_debian-0.1.21ubuntu1.egg-inf
[21:33] <sacarlson> patc: yes and you can setup that if your a member of a certain group that you don't even need sudo for some priv
[21:33] <hattorihanzo> is messed up
[21:33] <hattorihanzo> in /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/python_debian-0.1.21ubuntu1.egg-info
[21:33] <patc> sacarlson: I am the "admin" of this machine too
[21:33] <sacarlson> patc: yes that options will also work
[21:33] <hattorihanzo> whats the best way to reinstall python?
[21:33] <Toph2> ActionParsnip,,, ok,, i just did the compiz -- replce,, now, how do I get back to the default?
[21:34] <sms> محتاج ملف  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:34] <sms> ط في الابنتو 12.4 ضروري
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> !english | sms
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> or did ubottu die again
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> oh no, lag.
[21:34] <patc> ssta: sacarlson: OK so that's under sudoers tha i can set this up?
[21:34] <MonkeyDust> Toph2  gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz && compiz --replace <enter>
[21:35] <Toph2> MonkeyDust,,, thanks
[21:35] <ssta> patc: that's one way...it's Unix, *always* more than one way to do it
[21:35] <sacarlson> patc: yes sudo visuder on the server side is one option
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> Toph2  mind: your screen will start flashing on and off
[21:35] <patc> sacarlson: ssta: ok I understand. I would like to use the more secure option... if possible :)
[21:36] <vivek> How do I install Ubuntu 12.04 in text only mode ?
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> !text| vivek
[21:36] <Toph2> MonkeyDust,,, my min, max , x icons haven't returned on the program I am running
[21:36] <sacarlson> patc: I think the other option is copy or symbolic link the mount command file or other commands you want from the /usr/sbin or /sbin to /bin or /usr/bin with perms of a group that you want to allow it
[21:37] <ssta> patc: it's against the rules to tell you how to setup passwordless sudo here.  There are a lot of examples on the web though, your favourite search engine should find some
[21:37] <ska> Is there a way to install the r8168 driver for my kernel without manual downloading and tweaking dkms configs?
[21:37] <patc> sacarlson: hm... euh... ok... I keep all these ideas and'll check thsis out :) thanks for your advices
[21:38] <ska> Maybe PPA
[21:38] <vivek> MonkeyDust: In boot options do I have to give 'text' ?
[21:38] <uytytuyut> #ubuntu-it
[21:39] <vivek> MonkeyDust: Boot Options/
[21:39] <patc> ssta: yes ... this is the problem... and I would like to automate it... without compromizing security... so to pass it'0s password through ssh too would be great
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> vivek  simply follow the instructions
[21:39] <sacarlson> patc: you still pass a password it's just keyed
[21:40] <patc> sacarlson: euh... the "sudo" password?
[21:40] <ssta> patc: no need for a password
[21:40] <sacarlson> patc: oh ya I guess for that you would setup nopassword
[21:40] <patc> ...? if i use the sudoers thing... yes
[21:40] <vivek> MonkeyDust: My issue was that I am trying to boot my HP Pavilion DM1 Series DM1-4014TU  Netbook via a bootable USB drive running Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit. The issue is that  after I choose the language option the screen just goes off.
[21:41] <edgy> Hi, update-grub shows lots of "error: physical volume pv0 not found." as seen at http://pastebin.ca/2161784, any help?
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> vivek  i guess you choose a different resolution before install starts
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> can choose*
[21:41] <patc> ssta: sacarlson: I think I must dig much deeper to make a better idea... I am almost new to all these remote tricks :)
[21:41] <vivek> How do I do that ?
[21:42] <sacarlson> patc: yes the sudoer think would require you setup sudo with nopassword for the group of commands to not require a password in your script
[21:42] <patc> sacarlson: yes understood, but isn't the most secure thing, is it?
[21:42] <vivek> MonkeyDust: How do I choose a different resolution ?
[21:43] <ssta> patc: secure is a tradeoff.  It's generally secure if setup properly
[21:43] <patc> ssta: oki :)
[21:43] <sacarlson> patc: it will only be a group of commands that a hacker can't do much with so ??
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> vivek: what video chip do you use?
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> vivek  hm, idd, don't find it myself http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-12.04-lts-precise-pangolin
[21:44] <vivek> ActionParsnip: http://www.flipkart.com/hp-pavilion-dm1-series-dm1-4014tu-netbook/p/itmd52gjvth6k6bk?pid=COMD52GGSHVDZGGW&ref=abac11d6-ddfc-45c4-bae2-a6c852e0c60a
[21:45] <vivek> Graphic Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000
[21:45] <sacarlson> patc: does the computer run a bank?   or is it used to store your favorite mp3 music?  I guess it depends on what your protecting
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | vivek
[21:46] <patc> sacarlson: yes... it's just opening a cryptsetup drive.... hum.... still needs the password to do things...
[21:46] <patc> ;)
[21:46] <patc> sacarlson: it's for personal purpose, but i use it to learn :) so I prefer to learn the best practices possible :)
[21:47] <ssta> patc: an alternative would be to put the mount commands in a setuid script
[21:48] <patc> ssta: ah? what's that? i'll also check!
[21:48] <sacarlson> patc: I have an article on encrypting  with a remote key https://sites.google.com/site/remotekeyencrypt/home https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxyZW1vdGVrZXllbmNyeXB0fGd4OjU2YmVmY2NlY2Y2ZjhkZjM
[21:49] <patc> sacarlson: great! thanks!
[21:52] <patc> hey matt_symes o/
[21:53] <sacarlson> ssta: ya what is a setuid script? I'll have to look at that
[21:53] <patc> sacarlson: ssta : yeah me too
[21:53] <sambagirl> what is the command for gui naiutiuls?
[21:53] <sambagirl> nautilis
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: nautilus is gui...
[21:53] <sambagirl> i meant for root
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: gksudo nautilus $HOME
[21:54] <sambagirl> thanks action :D
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: same with ANY gui app
[21:54] <kingnebex> hi guys can any one help me out my laptop is slow on loading at start. what should i do?
[21:55] <sambagirl> brb let me see if this works
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: run:   dmesg | less     look for large gaps in the time on the left
[21:56] <p00d73> Hi, I want my Makefile in a debian source package to run some terminal commands without compiling anything, what should I write in it?
[21:56] <sacarlson> patc:  oh ya that setuid sounds like a good solution ssta
[21:56] <sabayonuser_> what is going on internet :D
[21:57] <patc> sacarlson: euh... have you found something special about these setuid scripts?
[21:57] <sacarlson> patc: I was just reading this and remembered http://www.tuxation.com/setuid-on-shell-scripts.html
 and how do i do that my fellow comrade
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: as I said, it's a terminal command
[21:58] <sacarlson> patc: it was a method that I've seen but never used and forgot
[21:58] <mintbuntu> a
[21:58] <mintbuntu> aa
[21:58] <sabayonuser__> a
[21:58] <funnyha> i need help with a bin bash
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> funnyha: details please
[21:59] <patc> sacarlson: oki, have to read this too :D
[21:59] <patc> sacarlson: thx
[21:59] <ska> I can't get the r8168 module installed.
 i didnt get u exacly how do i type in the command?
[21:59] <ska> on 11.10
[21:59] <funnyha> ActionParsnip, i need to take a word and put it in after a list of words
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex:    dmesg | less
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> funnyha: echo "word" | tee -a /file/to/be/added/to
[22:00] <funnyha> like add a names to a pharse
awkey il do that ther tll u the results
[22:00] <funnyha> and save it to a file\
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: use cursors up and down, look for the gaps in the left numbers
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> funnyha: could ask in #bash   the command I gave will add the word on a new line
 i ddnt get u there wat do u mean?
[22:03] <funnyha> ActionParsnip,  like if i have a list it will put it after word
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: the numbers down the left hand side are seconds since the kernel came up
[22:03] <funnyha> after every word
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: so large gaps in the time will indicate hangs and you can isolatethe issue as the hnags will explain the long boot
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> funnyha: not sure there man, #bash may have an idea
 there is alot of info here so wats next?
 well let me read first
[22:06] <harold> I usually change my capslock into ctrl with xmodmap... but I have to execute the three commands everytime I do a computer restart. When can I put those 3 files so that I won't have to do this everytime?
[22:06] <harold> or, is there perhaps an alternative way to do this?
[22:06] <novochar> i setup encryption on my systema and i ended up closing the terminal when it was asking for me to set my password
[22:07] <novochar> how do i reset the password?
[22:08] <sacarlson> novochar: I would think if you failed to enter the new password that the old one is still active
[22:08] <funnyha> ActionParsnip, i cant find #bash i am using xchat
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> funnyha: type:   /join #bash
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> funnyha: you don't have to find anything....
[22:10] <funnyha> yesh
[22:10] <funnyha> im there
 i realy dnt understand anything and the result is too long
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: just look for large gaps in the time, its comparing two numbers and thinking 'hmm... thaat's a big large' then reading the text to see what it relates to. A child could do it
[22:13] <novochar> sacarlson: that was me attempting to create it the first time
[22:13] <sacarlson> novochar: so it's not encytped then?
[22:14] <patc> thanks you all for your ideas and suggestions!
[22:14] <patc> :) have a nice day / night! bye for now!
[22:14] <novochar> sacarlson: well... i don't know
[22:15] <novochar> the install asked if i wanted to encrypt the home folder and i indicated that i did
[22:15] <novochar> and when it asked for me a password during the first boot into the system i closed the terminal window
 u say it lke its verry easy and coz u r used to it, im kynda new in this
[22:17] <rexis> any ubuntu user use slackware?
[22:17] <solid91> hi everibody...is there a way to improve wine if a program works with bugs?
[22:18] <zorael> Can you mix dnsmasq and resolvconf to automatically get the DNS from NetworkManager upon connection, have dnsmasq use that, and set resolv.conf to point to dnsmasq (localhost)?
 does this ring any bells to u?     422.826806] cdc_acm 5-2:1.12: ttyACM1: USB ACM device
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: sounds like a slow USB device, try booting without it attached. Is it faster?
 are u there?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> rexis: I'd ask in #winehq   have you checked the appdb for compatibility and/or how to's
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: yes, I just replied...
[22:23] <McDebian> i have a problem with gthumb 2.11.5 where it doesn't remember the sorting order of the thumbnails between each setting, is there a fix for this?
[22:23] <McDebian> *between each session, i meant
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> McDebian: have you checked for bugs?
[22:24] <McDebian> ActionParsnip: i have googled the problem, but havent found anything
 there r alot more and i dnt have ant usb device connected to my machine while booting
 does updatind help?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> kingnebex: should do
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> McDebian: I'd report a new bug then
[22:26] <McDebian> ActionParsnip: ok, i'll look into that
[22:27] <frank_> help find
[22:28] <brendon43> http://www.reddit.com/r/nsfwhot/comments/tuc5r/hot_lesbians/
 coz im updating right nw
[22:28] <PsynoKhi0> hi, I'd wish to upgrade ALSA on Precise to see if that solves my problem with HDMI no being recognized, followed the instructions from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules but the "sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r)" part fails (no such file). What's the correct procedure?
[22:30] <novochar> the ubuntu install asked if i wanted to encrypt the home folder and i indicated that i did and when it asked for me a password during the first boot into the system i closed the terminal window, how do set the password?
[22:30] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: what do you mean by not recognized?  What hardware do you have
[22:30] <novochar> i can't seem to get the prompt again
[22:32] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, spankin' new HD7770, aplay -l lists it as "HD-Audio Generic", lspci calls it "ATI Devuce aab0", dmesg throws lots of tantrum about too many HDMI devices, "hda-codec: out of range cmd"
[22:33] <Bryce> i was playing with raid and deleted the mbr on my /home partitions' hard drive. I am dual booting ubuntu studio and windows seven off of 128gb ssd with linux /home partition on a seperate 2tb hdd. i am hoping i can restore file allocation table for hhd without deleting the info. or at least transfer a compressed image of the partition without expensive software.
[22:34] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, even got a dmesg backtrace, "Bad EIP value"
[22:34] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: is the hdmi showing up in your mixer?
[22:34] <Bryce> i did see the partition with some windows recovery software but would have to pay to use the save feature.
[22:34] <beandog> Bryce: are you trying to get the data off a windows partition or a linux one
[22:34] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, the mixer won't launch, pavucontrol can't connect to the pulseaudio server
[22:34] <PsynoKhi0> no sound whatsoever
[22:34] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: what about alsamixer
[22:34] <Bryce> linux ext 4
[22:35] <beandog> Bryce: you could boot off a livecd, mount the drive, and get it that way easy enough
[22:35] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, good call, let me check
[22:35] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, alsamixer won't launch
[22:35] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: really.
[22:35] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: what version of ubuntu are you on
[22:35] <Bryce> im on a live boot right now but the hdd has no file system anymore
[22:35] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, Precise
[22:36] <beandog> Bryce: so did you delete just the MBR or the entire drive's partition table?
[22:36] <Bryce> its unallocated
[22:36] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: Odd.  So, ATI video card with HDMI out and it has onboard audio as well?
[22:36] <Bryce> the partition table
[22:36] <beandog> Bryce: huh, I dunno then
[22:36] <beandog> I'd be careful though
[22:36] <beandog> You can probably recover it though
[22:37] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, onboard audio? you mean the graphics card or the motherboard?
[22:37] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: Either one.  Does the HDMI port do both audio and video, is what I'm asking
[22:37] <Bryce> i know. i don't want any of it to get written over  but i want to at least tranfer some of my big torrent downloads .
[22:37] <beandog> Bryce: Was it one partition or many?
[22:38] <Bryce> one partition
[22:38] <beandog> Oh
[22:38] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, oy no clue, I'll check the manufacturer's spec page
[22:38] <beandog> Well you could try forcing it to mount
[22:38] <beandog> No idea what that'd do
[22:38] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: well, just answer me this, how are you getting sound?
[22:38] <Bryce> but the software that let me see it showed ever fat it ever had. the one i want came up as partition 19
[22:38] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, from the motherboard, not even using HDMI at all
[22:39] <Bryce> all other partitions were only a couple gigs at the biggest
[22:39] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: Oh.  I totally misunderstood your original issue then.
[22:39] <beandog> Bryce: dunno, man.  partition recovery is beyond my meager skills
[22:39] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, more accurately, I SHOULD get sound from the motherboard, but the HDMI is supposed to be listed as a sound device, apparently cockblocking the whole sound subsystem since it's not recognized
[22:39] <Bryce> yeah. mine too.
[22:40] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: kk, can you pastebin dmesg, and aplay -l
[22:40] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, can pastebing the whole alsa-script.sh output
[22:40] <PsynoKhi0> pastebin*
[22:40] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: even better
 thanx 4 everything
[22:41] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1043135/
[22:41] <Jbarbosa93> hi
[22:42] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: Hmm, this is saying you have two sound devices
[22:43] <Jbarbosa93> Hi everyone, I have a strange problem when Im gonna install the ubuntu, I have a windows 7 64bit with 640 gb hd, and my objective is dualboot alongside with ubuntu.
[22:43] <Jbarbosa93> I burn the 32bit ubuntu, boot from cd, on the desktop of linux have a cd telling to install click, choose language, turn on the internet, then the ****PROBLEM****, I dont have the option to choose alongside with windows, and then if I choose the option to create the partions, he tell me that dont have any os installed and have the 640 gb hd free. I already creat partions and other things, I
[22:43] <Jbarbosa93> cant, its problem of my hd?
[22:43] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: which if that's the case, you'd just need to pull up alsamixer with the other (not default) device
[22:43] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: no thats not it, it only mentions card0
[22:44] <Jbarbosa93> Hi everyone, I have a strange problem when Im gonna install the linux mint, I have a windows 7 64bit with 640 gb hd, and my objective is dualboot alongside with mint.
[22:44] <Jbarbosa93> I burn the 64bit linux mint cd cinnamon, boot from cd, on the desktop of linux have a cd telling to install click, choose language, turn on the internet, then the ****PROBLEM****, I dont have the option to choose alongside with windows, and then if I choose the option to create the partions, he tell me that dont have any os installed and have the 640 gb hd free. I already creat partions and
[22:44] <Jbarbosa93> other things, I cant, its problem of my hd?
[22:44] <FloodBot1> Jbarbosa93: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:45] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: I dunno, man .. your kernel does *not* like that, though
[22:45] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, I know right? openSUSE 12.1 with kernel 3.1 is fine though
[22:45] <sleepie^eyes> In terminal I pinged www.yoogle.com as a random url to test, and it starts pinging localhost (127.0.0.1)
[22:45] <sleepie^eyes> can anyone tell me why that is? Should I be concerned?
[22:46] <L3top> !mint | Jbarbosa93
[22:46] <Jbarbosa93> Hi everyone, I have a strange problem when Im gonna install the linux mint, I have a windows 7 64bit with 640 gb hd, and my objective is dualboot alongside with mint.
[22:46] <Jbarbosa93> I burn the 64bit linux mint cd cinnamon, boot from cd, on the desktop of linux have a cd telling to install click, choose language, turn on the internet, then the ****PROBLEM****, I dont have the option to choose alongside with windows, and then if I choose the option to create the partions, he tell me that dont have any os installed and have the 640 gb hd free. I already creat partions and
[22:46] <Jbarbosa93> other things, I cant, its problem of my hd?
[22:46] <FloodBot1> Jbarbosa93: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:46] <sleepie^eyes> please
[22:46] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: Hmm, might wanna look around for a different kernel, then .... I'm not familiar enough with Ubuntu on how to do that (personally, I'd just build it myself)
[22:47] <beandog> sleepie^eyes: try something else
[22:47] <beandog> sleepie^eyes: ping 4.4.4.4
[22:47] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: there's gotta be PPAs for alternate kernels, I'd imagine.
[22:47] <sleepie^eyes> beandog, 4.4.4.4 hangs
[22:47] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: are you using closed-source ATI drivers?
[22:47] <beandog> sleepie^eyes: that's odd.
[22:48] <sleepie^eyes> beandog, and google, yahoo, etc work as normal
[22:48] <beandog> oh wait, it does for me too
[22:48] <beandog> sleepie^eyes: yah I wouldn't worry about it
[22:48] <sleepie^eyes> yoogle.com pings localhost for you too?
[22:48] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, yes, same issue with the one provided by Jockey, and the beta 12.8
[22:48] <beandog> oh wow, it does
[22:48] <beandog> weird.
[22:48] <sleepie^eyes> seriously whats up with that
[22:48] <beandog> heh
[22:48] <beandog> never heard of that
[22:49] <ubuntu_> anybody know where to find help with recovery?
[22:49] <sleepie^eyes> oh, you're a user too
[22:49] <beandog> sleepie^eyes: dunno.  don't worry about it.
[22:49] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: that might be making it unhappy, I'd guess
[22:49] <lrcaballero> ubuntu: what kind of recovery?
[22:50] <beandog> closed drivers tend to do that, unfortunately. :T
[22:50] <sleepie^eyes> does ctrl-C terminate a running utility in terminal, or does make run in the background
[22:51] <sertaconay> sleepie^eyes, it terminates
[22:51] <sleepie^eyes> sertaconay, thank you
[22:51] <wasanzy> hi
[22:52] <sertaconay> sleepie^eyes, you are welcome.
[22:52] <semitones> I have a package "alsa-hda-dkms" that has errors everytime apt-get tries to update it. Can I just mark "prefer current version" or does that somehow lead to problems? Thanks
[22:52] <wasanzy> please I just loss most of my root privileges on my laptop
[22:52] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: my first thought it is to say to try and disable the module, and see what happens
[22:53] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: at least then you'd narrow down the problem
[22:53] <wasanzy> my user account is the only account on the ubuntu machine hence, has all the root access, but now after booting today, I can do most of the things I use to do like creating new users
[22:53] <wasanzy> please any idea?
[22:54] <sertaconay> wasanzy, does your user have user privileges?
[22:54] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, snd_hda_intel is used by both the motherboard and HDMI, wouldn't that still leave me with no sound at all?
[22:55] <Gyro54> Hi!
[22:55] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: sorry, not that module, the ATI one
[22:55] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: the closed source video card one
[22:55] <sertaconay> wasanzy, does your user have sudo privileges? *
[22:56] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, erm ok brb
[22:56] <Gyro54> What is a good backup program to backup 2 local Vmware servers?
[22:56] <wasanzy> yes as you can see my passwd and sudoers file: http://pastebin.com/5QwPWiAH
[22:56] <semitones> I have a package "alsa-hda-dkms" that has errors everytime apt-get tries to update it. Can I just mark "prefer current version" or does that somehow lead to problems? Thanks
[22:57] <beandog> semitones: flagging a package to not be upgraded?
[22:58] <semitones> yeah. i think it's my sound drivers
[22:58] <semitones> they're the maverick package
[22:58] <benn> d
[22:58] <benn> s
[22:58] <benn> ds
[22:58] <benn> ds
[22:58] <benn> d
[22:58] <benn> s
[22:58] <FloodBot1> benn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:58] <beandog> semitones: http://www.ubunturoot.com/2010/11/how-to-disable-package-from-updating-in.html that maybe?
[22:59] <wasanzy> sertaconay, are you there?
[22:59] <beandog> I'm betting it was a cat
[22:59] <semitones> beandog: thanks, I know how to do it, I'm just trying to ask if it will cause problems
[22:59] <beandog> semitones: oh, nah, probably not
[22:59] <semitones> sweet
[23:01] <wasanzy> any idea about why I can do any thing as root?
[23:02] <Myrtti> wasanzy: why you can or why you can't
[23:02] <wasanzy> I mean. I can't do any thing as root
[23:02] <tippenein> xorg.conf doesn't need to exist correct?
[23:02] <Myrtti> wasanzy: what do you mean by that?
[23:02] <sertaconay> wasanzy, do you have any user who has sudo?
[23:02] <Myrtti> tippenein: no
[23:02] <wasanzy> yes
[23:02] <boliviano3> does anyone know a good alternative for PopCorn  MKV Audioconverter?
[23:03] <tippenein> I'm running ubuntu 10.04 and I can't get my nvidia device drivers to be seen
[23:03] <sertaconay> wasanzy, when you type su in command line, what is output?
[23:03] <tippenein> I got nvidia-current, and still no luck after restarting
[23:03] <wasanzy> the only user account I have which I created during installation
[23:04] <wasanzy> am able to su alriht
[23:04] <sertaconay> wasanzy, when you type su in command line, doesn't it ask for password?
[23:05] <wasanzy> ah, I can see, am able to add user via command line, but via the GUI I can't because of authentication
[23:05] <wasanzy> problem
[23:06] <Myrtti> wasanzy: have you enabled root password?
[23:08] <wasanzy> am not sure, how do I check? because any thing GUI that need sudo is asking for root password and when I enter my password, it fails.
[23:08] <beandog> wasanzy: what is the output of su -
[23:08] <beandog> wasanzy: what is the output of sudo su -
[23:09] <beandog> wasanzy: the output, not the description
[23:09] <sertaconay> wasanzy,  you have two users, root and other right? when other user is doing something with sudo it asks password and it's your user's password.
[23:11] <wasanzy> sertaconay, you are right, but I don't remember adding root user and you know ubuntu uses the default user account during installation as root account so am confused
[23:11] <NastyNaz> word
[23:11] <riz0n> I am in the process of migrating from an old Ubuntu server to a new server. What is the easiest way to move MySQL databases?
 emmanuel@dove:~$ su -
[23:11] <wasanzy> [sudo] password for emmanuel:
[23:12] <NastyNaz> suppose I had $10k lying around, an IQ of 153 and a load of free time - what would be the most effective way to learn Ruby?
[23:12] <beandog> NastyNaz: isn't there some ruby book online?
[23:12] <sertaconay> wasanzy, ubuntu asks for adding users at the beginning of installation and you have added emmanuel and typed your password for EMMANUEL
[23:13] <beandog> NastyNaz: http://ruby.learncodethehardway.org/book/
, yes
[23:13] <sertaconay> wasanzy, then no problem. have a nice day.
[23:14] <wasanzy> so I don't know how the root account got enabled
[23:14] <jpreto_> hello, how does AfterSys as a web dev enterprise name sound to a native english speaker? good? catchy?
[23:14] <Mitchell92> Can someone help me completely remove  parallel desktop?
[23:14] <wasanzy> how do I disable the root account?
[23:14] <Tlyf226> freenode fakes its users, snardbafulator is a child molester, join us at irc.arcamens.com
[23:14] <Tlyf226> freenode fakes its users, snardbafulator is a child molester, join us at irc.arcamens.com
[23:14] <sertaconay> wasanzy, root account is default account of system.
[23:14] <Tlyf226> freenode fakes its users, snardbafulator is a child molester, join us at irc.arcamens.com
[23:14] <FloodBot1> Tlyf226: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:14] <TQXk435> freenode fakes its users, snardbafulator is a child molester, join us at irc.arcamens.com
[23:14] <TQXk435> freenode fakes its users, snardbafulator is a child molester, join us at irc.arcamens.com
[23:14] <FloodBot1> TQXk435: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:14] <TQXk435> freenode fakes its users, snardbafulator is a child molester, join us at irc.arcamens.com
, but I don't remember setting password for the root account
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> wasanzy: sudo passwd -dl root
, what does that command do?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> wasanzy: you don't set it in the default setup and the account is disabled
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> wasanzy: disables the account, as it should be
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> wasanzy: as you asked for...
[23:18] <wasanzy> ok
[23:18] <wasanzy> thank you.
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> wasanzy: I'd have thought that me replying to your question would immediately clarify what it did...
[23:18] <wasanzy> will I need to restart?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> wasanzy: no it's all good to go
[23:18] <wasanzy> ok
[23:18] <beandog> whats that command you run to see system stats over the past hour, day, etc
[23:18] <wasanzy> thank you.
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> beandog: stats in what sense?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> wasanzy: np dude
[23:19] <beandog> ActionParsnip: cpu load
[23:19] <wawowe3> beandog: uptime
[23:19] <beandog> no
[23:19] <beandog> not vmstat, there's something else.  Can't remember the name.
[23:19] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, any1 can open this http://www.zygotebody.com? All my browsers says WebGL not supported!
[23:19] <beandog> ah, sar
[23:19] <beandog> it's not running though
[23:19] <beandog> dangit.
[23:20] <CrazyGangster> how can fix this?
,   passwd: password expiry information changed. (is the output)
[23:20] <ronax> sertaconay : yettim,neredesin :))
[23:21] <wasanzy> OMG, my application is still asking for root password
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> wasanzy: that's fine :)
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> wasanzy: run it prefixed with sudo
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> CrazyGangster: do you have 3D accelleration enabled?
[23:22] <wasanzy> am trying to select a wireless network from list of wireless networks and it is asing for root
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> wasanzy: should only ask for the wifi key, users can join and leave networks as they need
[23:23] <Cottus> CrazyGangster, firefox: about:config > WebGL
[23:24] <wasanzy> but that is not the case here, is rather asking for the root password to the machine
[23:24] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, fglrx had nothin to do with it, though blacklisting snd_hda_codec_hdmi did the trick!
[23:24] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, dmesg is now nice and clean
[23:25] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, thanks for the hint
[23:25] <fellayaboy> whats the best terminal email client i can use that offers encryption...where my password and username cant get sniffed
[23:25] <CrazyGangster> ActionParsnip: i think i have...
[23:25] <CrazyGangster> Cottus: I will check...
[23:25] <Cottus> ok
[23:25] <wasanzy> System policy prevents modification of network settings for all users.( This is what I get)
[23:26] <beandog> PsynoKhi0: wow, thats awesome.  congrats, man :D
[23:26] <beandog> fellayaboy: mutt ?
[23:26] <beandog> fellayaboy: oh, I read that as CLI, n/m
[23:26] <PsynoKhi0> beandog, :D
[23:26] <fellayaboy> why dont i see encryption at 512bits or more
[23:27] <beandog> Python1320: fglrx ... I was trying to remember the module name, heh
[23:27] <fellayaboy> is it illegal to have encryption above 256bit? i read that it was
[23:27] <shadykhan> is there a program where i connect my android phone to my comp and have like a desktop sms system? with notifications and what not?
[23:28] <fellayaboy> i see ubuntu has a mail command ...and when i type mail in terminal it says i have no mail...how can i set it up to use my gmail... can someone give me a link i suck at googling the right info
[23:28] <MonkeyDust> shadykhan  there's gammu
[23:29] <beandog> fellayaboy: it depends if you want cli or gui
[23:29] <fellayaboy> i want cli
[23:29] <beandog> mutt
[23:30] <PsynoKhi0> "mutt gmail" on google returns a bunch of links :)
[23:30] <fellayaboy> so whats that mail command i see in terminall... isnt mutt and mail too different email programs
[23:31] <fellayaboy> two different*
[23:31] <CrazyGangster> Cottus: http://i47.tinypic.com/34eyvzo.png
[23:31] <shadykhan> MonkeyDust, thanks ill look into it
[23:31] <PsynoKhi0> mail is only for your LAN as think
[23:31] <Cottus> well , i don't know
[23:31] <CrazyGangster> ActionParsnip
[23:32] <fellayaboy> for your LAN??
[23:32] <PsynoKhi0> assuming the computer you use mail on is a server
[23:32] <Cottus> it is enabled
[23:32] <Myrtti> fellayaboy: mail can be aliased to mutt, much like www-browser is usually aliased to your preferred browser
[23:32] <fellayaboy> ooh
[23:32] <fellayaboy> i see
[23:32] <fellayaboy> hmmm
[23:32] <PsynoKhi0> the mail command is to inform other users on your system if my memory serves me well
[23:32] <fellayaboy> well i guess ill look into mutt then
[23:33] <fellayaboy> oh so its for sending messages to local users on your pc?
[23:33] <PsynoKhi0> yep
[23:34] <PsynoKhi0> or not
[23:34] <fellayaboy> i mean excuse me..sendign them to your local users and LAN
[23:34] <fellayaboy> well thanks guys
[23:34] <fellayaboy> i appreciate it
[23:36] <steinseba> [A
[23:39] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, any1 can open this http://www.zygotebody.com? All my browsers says WebGL not supported, how can fix this?  http://i47.tinypic.com/34eyvzo.png
[23:39] <CrazyGangster> http://tinypaste.com/c95500e5
[23:39] <MichaelGl> mail can be used to send mail normally to anyone..
[23:40] <beandog> echo hello world | mail -s hello foo@gmail.com
[23:40] <MichaelGl> it's not the most user friendly interface..
[23:40] <beandog> MichaelGl: agreed, it's a pain
[23:40] <PsynoKhi0> MichaelGl, isn't that only for mailx?
[23:41] <MichaelGl> mailx has some more functionality
[23:41] <PsynoKhi0> maybe was confusing it with wall
[23:41] <MichaelGl> i forget what exactly
[23:41] <MichaelGl> they're both very basic by today's standards
[23:42] <MichaelGl> really you can just telnet into a mail server and send email if you want
[23:42] <MonkeyDust> about mutt, what's an example of an MTA ?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: postfix and sendmail are examples
[23:44] <beandog> smtp server
[23:45] <escott> beandog, i feel sorry for Mr Foo, i cant imagine how much junk mail he gets
[23:46] <beandog> escott: heh, I remember reading once about the guy who owns example.com and how much email he gets
[23:49] <sqe124> hu
[23:50] <escott> beandog, IANA owns example.com, so it is safe to use, but lots of stuff ends up being emailed to invalid domains all the time
[23:51] <beandog> escott: maybe it was a different domain
[23:51] <beandog> anyway
[23:51] <beandog> whatevs
[23:51] <Guest51674> hello
[23:51] <Guest51674> can u help me, i try to find a community of physics at irc
[23:52] <escott> !alis | Guest51674
[23:52] <spashok> !alis
[23:53] <escott> beandog, it might have been noreply.com, but some researchers squatted on typos for fortune 500 companies and got lots of insider emails
[23:54] <beandog> that might be it
[23:55] <Guest51674> thanks
[23:58] <stafford> I am looking for Ubuntu system hardening guide