[08:34] <ochosi> madnick_: ping :)
[08:37] <madnick_> ochosi: pong
[08:38] <ochosi> madnick_: just quickly wanted to follow up on yesterday
[08:38] <ochosi> i was kinda on and off because we had friends over
[08:39] <madnick_> ah okay
[08:39] <madnick_> Well, I haven't done anything yet
[08:39] <ochosi> yeah, i didn't expect you to :)
[08:39] <ochosi> but i thought we could talk about the next steps
[08:40] <madnick_> sure
[08:40] <ochosi> i think first off we should register a new launchpad project, called "xubuntu-greeter"
[08:40] <ochosi> next, we should fork the current working branch of unity-greeter to that project and then start working on it there
[08:41] <ochosi> we can define what we want to change (bg,logo,text) and go through with that step-by-step
[08:41] <madnick_> yeah
[08:41] <ochosi> which of these things do you want me to do? :}
[08:43] <madnick_> Well, creating the lp project and forking would be great, because I have so many lp projects that are inactive hehe
[08:43] <madnick_> Its starting to look bad ;)
[08:43] <ochosi> hehe
[08:43] <ochosi> ok, well it doesn't really matter who creates the project though
[08:43] <ochosi> it's just important that we create a team that takes over maintenance
[08:43] <madnick_> yeah
[08:44] <madnick_> Well, tell you what, I'll review the current code tonight, and read about its condition, to get a grip of what needs to be done with the code, generally
[08:45] <ochosi> sounds good
[08:45] <madnick_> But if we need the lp project now, I wont be able to do that, because I am going to bed
[08:45] <madnick_> very soon
[08:45] <ochosi> yeah, np
[08:45] <ochosi> i can create it and link it to the blueprint
[08:45] <madnick_> awesome 
[08:45] <ochosi> it would be nice if you could put the things that need to be done in the blueprint as well, in form of workitems
[08:46] <madnick_> sure
[08:46] <ochosi> great, sounds like a plan
[08:47] <madnick_> Seems there is only vala source now, no C source
[08:48] <madnick_> Also, without looking deeper into it (ill do that tonight), a first glance would indicate there is much hardcoded things still, so I dunno about translations
[08:50] <olbi> xubuntu-greeter sounds nice, now I use ubuntu-greeter but kde light-dm looks fantastic 
[08:52] <ochosi> olbi: got a screenshot of it?
[08:52] <ochosi> madnick_: ok, we'll see. if we're not much worse than ubuntu, we should be fine (i'm sure they'll add support for it, we can just merge that in later)
[08:53] <madnick_> ochosi: also, do you know the status of onboard in 12.10?
[08:53] <olbi> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/work-started-on-lightdm-kde-integration.html
[08:53] <madnick_> Its what is used there by default, and thats also the best alternative i tried when making the old one
[08:54] <olbi> http://kdefamily.pl/index.php/aktualnoci/40-programy/293-lightdm-kde-010
[08:54] <madnick_> ocra screen reader aswell
[08:56] <ochosi> one sec, brb
[08:57] <ochosi> madnick_: i'd say for now let's stay on par with ubuntu, just modify it for our needs
[08:58] <madnick_> yeah
[08:58] <madnick_> ok, i will head off to bed, cya in 12 hours :)
[09:06] <ochosi> yup
[09:06] <ochosi> seeya
[09:54]  * astraljava needs to give the dailies some spins this weekend, the channel is suspiciously quiet about any bugs
[09:55] <hobgoblin> I got one astraljava :)
[09:55] <astraljava> hobgoblin: Please do share, I'm writing the report to the release meeting.
[09:56] <hobgoblin> the daily I had yesterday doesn't work once it realises it's not on a cd but on a usb - there's a bug - I'll try and find it
[09:56] <astraljava> hobgoblin: Is this an alternate image?
[09:56] <hobgoblin> yea - there is no desktop daily
[09:57] <hobgoblin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1010142
[09:57] <astraljava> hobgoblin: Sure there is: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/
[09:57] <ochosi> madnick_: project is here: https://launchpad.net/xubuntu-greeter
[09:57] <hobgoblin> astraljava: when I went where you sent me yesterday there wasn't lol 
[09:58] <hobgoblin> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/20120614/
[09:58] <hobgoblin> :)
[09:58] <astraljava> hobgoblin: Strange, cause both the 13th and 14th have images in them.
[09:58] <astraljava> hobgoblin: Now you're looking at the alternate image directory.
[09:58] <hobgoblin> downloading now - will boot and install it fortwith 
[09:59] <astraljava> hobgoblin: Please do notice the difference, live-cd is in daily-live/, alternate in daily/
[09:59] <hobgoblin> I just went were you sent me - no problem 
[09:59] <hobgoblin> aah cool - didn't know that - will remember - I hope 
[10:00] <astraljava> I'm a little puzzled by this bug. I wonder how the stick was prepared, if with USB Creator, then it's invalid as that only works with live images.
[10:01] <astraljava> But nonetheless, it's not Xubuntu-specific, so I'll ignore it for now. Thanks for mentioning it anyway, hobgoblin!
[10:01] <hobgoblin> yep
[10:01] <hobgoblin> is there a check list somewhere to work against for checking the daily - or just the one I saw the other day? 
[10:03] <hobgoblin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Short
[10:04] <astraljava> hobgoblin: That's updated to what we think is relevant, for now. It'll work for dailies just fine, but we need the Long for milestones, the next of which is Alpha-2 in a week and a half or so.
[10:04] <hobgoblin> ok 
[10:05] <astraljava> Thanks for caring about the images! :)
[10:05] <hobgoblin> certainly for the time being I have got a lot of free time 
[10:05] <astraljava> Hugely appreciated.
[10:05] <hobgoblin> I reported something yesterday for lightdm - arguing with sebastian bacher about it being a bug or not lol
[10:06] <hobgoblin> I do though see his point so will leave it now :)
[10:06] <hobgoblin> astraljava: I can't code or do webpages or the like - so I help with what I can do :)
[10:07] <astraljava> hobgoblin: Not (nearly) every contributor needs to, either.
[10:07] <hobgoblin> :)
[10:08] <hobgoblin> got my name on the documentation list as well - all helps I guess :)
[10:08] <astraljava> That's why I'm in the QA business as well. There's not much coding to be done for Xubuntu, and if there is, we've got a few wizards here already. :)
[10:08] <astraljava> Absolutely.
[10:09] <hobgoblin> I assume I'll be able to zsync the dailies - I can check them almost daily 
[10:40] <hobgoblin> astraljava: ok - here goes - I WILL blame you if it goes horribly wrong - especially as I am really good at telling people to backup, but fail badly at listening to myself ... :)
[11:34] <hobgoblin> astraljava: couple of things failed
[12:13] <astraljava> hobgoblin: Ok, I have to run now, but please do share, I'll get to it in the backlog.
[12:14] <hobgoblin> k - I will - I've also got some comments - they can wait 
[12:14] <hobgoblin> partitioner - something else - told me that resize would take some time - there was not resize going on and it didn't do one
[12:15] <hobgoblin> usb - mounted as far as dmesg was concerned - file manager didn't start nor have it there - in fact none of the drives I would expect to see in thunar were there
[12:16] <hobgoblin> there was graphic corruption during the liveusb screenshow and on the installed system - went when you moused over it http://i.imgur.com/Pr6OY.png
[12:17] <hobgoblin> other than that it was good 
[12:17] <hobgoblin> when you're back and have time - perhaps a chat about the 'process' 
[12:17] <ochosi> if any of you feel like checking out the new panel-style in greybird, it's in the bright-menus branch
[12:18] <hobgoblin> I would later if I knew where the bright menus branch was lol
[12:19] <ochosi> hobgoblin: you can either download the tarball here: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/tarball/bright-menus
[12:19] <ochosi> hobgoblin: or clone it with git from here: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/tree/bright-menus
[12:19] <hobgoblin> k - I'll have a look later on :)
[12:22] <ochosi> hobgoblin: sure, no rush