[08:59] <becksta> ahoi
[09:00] <becksta> folgende frage: habe 1tb webdav space von 1und1, auf den ich gerne meine privaten dokumente auslagern will.. diese möchte ich aber gerne verschlüsseln... mit seahorse und dem nautilus-plugin kann ich aber nur einzelne dateien verschlüsseln, was ich schlecht finde
[09:00] <hakermania> ahoi
[09:00] <becksta> kann ich einen verschlüsselten truecrypt container dort ablegen und dann einbinden?
[09:00] <becksta> geht das performant, auch wenn der container 3gb haben sollte?   kann dazu jemand was sagen?=
[09:12] <becksta> hm... offenbar niemand... :(
[11:48] <r4y> I would like to see a program for fixing audio skips for files on a hard drive.
[11:51] <r4y> Also when I use Audacity to export audio files it strips out the first tags and creates a new tag named unknown and moves the year to the new tag. I am running Ubuntu 10.04 but I thought I should mention it.
[11:54] <philipballew_> i wonder if the audacity vhannel would help
[11:54] <philipballew_> or ubuntu-studio
[11:55] <philipballew_> r4y,
[11:56] <r4y> I think I asked before but I left the channel
[11:59] <r4y> Can any programs play back audio without skips, like the anti skip CD player I used to own?, and if so why couldn't someone make one that fixes skips for audio files that have already been ripped onto a computer?
[12:59] <Schanitzeln> Hi. For our little network (4 XP Pro workstations in a Windows workgroup) I plan to get a small linux box, install samba and use it as domain controller and file server (so everybody can work on every computer and still has the right email profile, etc.)
[12:59] <Schanitzeln> One problem with this however seems to be, that we need a MSSQL-Server to host the database for Outlook Business contact manager 2010.
[12:59] <Schanitzeln> Currently one of the workstation is the host, but when we change from workgroup to domain this won't work anymore I guess.
[12:59] <Schanitzeln> Is there a way to host the BCM Database on the Ubuntu server? Maybe using virtualbox emulating XP which in turn runs the MSSQL-Server instance for the local network?
[13:04] <phillw> hi Schanitzeln, I must say I've never tried this solution, but http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/run-a-ms-sql-server-in-linux-674412/ has a very good discussion on the issue you are having.
[13:05] <phillw> I'm just following one of the links back to MySQL
[13:08] <Schanitzeln> Thanks for the link, however at the moment I believe that porting the database to a different database-system like MySQL (wish I'd love to use) is an option. According to MS' Office support, you are forced to use MSSQL ("..and it's free so why not like it" -.-)
[13:10] <phillw> Schanitzeln: okies, but do take a look at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/129/how-to-export-data-from-sql-server-2005-to-mysql
[13:10] <Schanitzeln> having to run the MSSQLBIZ thing on one of the workstations completely wrecks using a domain in the first place... at least that's what I think (I may lack knowledge there)
[13:11] <phillw> Other wise, you are going to have to use the pserformance hit of a virtual machine, which is okay as long as you do not stress that machine.
[13:13] <phillw> I don't know of people who have done a conversion, but if you head over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=339 I'm sure one of those good people have "Been there, got the T-shirt" to better answer your questions
[13:16] <Schanitzeln> phillw: the server machine will run the samba server as domain controller and network storage stuff. No other services (apache, etc.) are planned for the machine. Should a Intel core-i3 2100 with 4GB RAM be able to handel one virtual XP without samba to give in?
[13:17] <Schanitzeln> The information about porting MSSQL data to MySQL is usefull (so I can play around with that data for other projects) but doesn't really help my problem, because it'S the BCM that seems to refuse to "talk" to anything but MSSQLBIZ
[13:17] <phillw> Schanitzeln: as they say, there's one way to find out!. I run VM's on my system that has 4GB ram and a AMD Turon.
[13:18] <phillw> a server does not eat up resources like a desktop does.
[13:19] <phillw> My personal view, is to use a VM over Wine.
[13:19] <Schanitzeln> so virtualbox?
[13:20] <Schanitzeln> I tried wine way back when I first played around with linux and wanted to play a windows game. Bad memories, lot's of frustration ;)
[13:20] <phillw> with VM's you allocate it the max it can use, they do cannot exceed that; but only use what they need.
[13:22] <phillw> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualMachines has details for the various ubuntu VM's
[13:23] <Schanitzeln> thank you, I'll look into that
[13:23] <phillw> I've still not got around to running windows under a VM. I will do it one day!
[13:28] <Schanitzeln> If everything fails I can still take my old windows laptop, install the MSSQLBIZ and hook it up to our network, however this feels very unelegant and clunky
[13:28] <Schanitzeln> Thanks for your input, gotta do some reading now
[14:50] <nothingspecial> hi msdaisy
[14:50] <nothingspecial> :D
[14:50] <msdaisy> ;)
[14:51] <nothingspecial> you should hang here and see if you can help :)
[14:51] <msdaisy> lol, the last time I was here I was the one receiving the help :P
[14:51] <nothingspecial> :)
[16:01] <msdaisy> well you're right nothingspecial . This is a pace I can work with :P
[16:09] <phillw> msdaisy: When I 1st started using ubuntu, it became very quickly obvious that us n00bs had the same questions & had learned the answers. You bring that knowledge back to this area, us "oldies" are less in touch with the fear a newcomer has. Just making them feel welcome makes a massive difference :D
[16:11] <msdaisy> at least I'm good for something lol ;)
[16:12] <ntwrk_keith> thanks ^^
[16:14] <phillw> msdaisy: as you are here & ubuntuforums, you can offer good help & get back-up for when you are not sure. I still nag the living daylights out of people when unsure, you learn, the OP gets a good answer. it is a win - win system :)
[16:16] <msdaisy> oh, indeed. I bug the crap out of #ubuntuforums for backup :D
[16:17] <phillw> I'm a QA-testing liasion for Lubuntu, I bug the crap out of the release team and devs :P
[16:20] <CavemanZipper> hey!
[16:20] <CavemanZipper> can someone help me out?
[16:20] <Unit193> Just ask the question, and find out. :)
[16:20] <Unit193> msdaisy: Here's one for you. ;)
[16:20] <CavemanZipper> Alrightyoo
[16:21] <CavemanZipper> So, i was recently hired
[16:21] <CavemanZipper> for an IT apprentice job
[16:21] <CavemanZipper> and i'm 16 years old now
[16:21] <CavemanZipper> but have been fiddling with computers n stuff forever
[16:21] <CavemanZipper> like, just messing with everything :P
[16:21] <CavemanZipper> and i got super interested in coding and stuff like that
[16:21] <CavemanZipper> tho i never got the chance to learn.
[16:21] <CavemanZipper> I mean, to each his own, and all that code may not be so easy on the eyes to some
[16:22] <CavemanZipper> but i find it so mesmerizing...
[16:22] <CavemanZipper> nerdy, i know.
[16:22] <CavemanZipper> anyway, the head of IT there was passing his smaller roles to me,
[16:22] <CavemanZipper> and he recommended a Linux OS
[16:22] <CavemanZipper> for me to mess around in
[16:22] <CavemanZipper> he said it'd be good for me to learn commands and such
[16:22] <CavemanZipper> But now im in here, it seems very graphics-based and flawless
[16:22] <CavemanZipper> am i missing out on something?
[16:23] <CavemanZipper> I wanna be typing stuff into consoles to launch programs and open files rather than double-click
[16:23] <CavemanZipper> maybe that's just bad intial perception but, lead the way! :3
[16:23] <msdaisy> With all those words, you would think I would understand the question...
[16:24] <Unit193> So you'd be looking for something like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[16:24] <msdaisy> Are you looking for resources to learn the command line?
[16:24] <msdaisy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1909108  this too.
[16:24] <Unit193> msdaisy: "Why is linux easy and how do I use the terminal?" is my guess
[16:26] <CavemanZipper> yes something along those lines! :)
[16:26] <CavemanZipper> Woops, battery is unplugged..
[16:26] <CavemanZipper> darn, brb, gotta find it.
[16:28] <phillw> CavemanZipper: also http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Linux_For_Newbies/Command_Line may be of help
[16:31] <CavemanZipper> thanks :)
[16:31] <CavemanZipper> Quick question,
[16:31] <CavemanZipper> this is Ubuntu, right?
[16:31] <CavemanZipper> The first link you gave me lists Unity, Gnome, Lubuntu, and other stuff
[16:31] <CavemanZipper> but not Ubuntu,
[16:31] <CavemanZipper> which do i refer to??
[16:32] <Unit193> Unity is used in default Ubuntu.
[16:32] <CavemanZipper> ok, found the terminal!
[16:32] <msdaisy> unity and gnome are the graphical user interfaces that lie on top of the Linux foundation CavemanZipper
[16:32] <Unit193> There are other flavors that use different DEs.
[16:32] <CavemanZipper> Aaah..
[16:32] <CavemanZipper> i see.
[16:32] <CavemanZipper> So all the icons is Unity's doing?
[16:33] <CavemanZipper> how do I tell if i'm running Gnome or Unity? or am I simultaneously running both?
[16:33] <msdaisy> what do you have installed? 12.04?
[16:33] <Unit193> Unity runs on top of gnome, rather than gnome-shell running.
[16:40] <CavemanZipper> i dont know how to find out what i've got installed :3
[16:40] <CavemanZipper> Oh, i get it
[16:40] <CavemanZipper> reading thru the begginner links now :)
[16:40] <CavemanZipper> it seems linuxes are more stable OS than Windows?
[16:41] <msdaisy> nope.
[16:41] <nothingspecial> CavemanZipper: if you want to mess about with the command line press CTRL-ALT-F1, log in, and away you go :)
[16:42] <CavemanZipper> they aren't?!
[16:42] <Unit193> I rather find them to be, and a lot of servers are running Linux, so that would count some to stability and security.
[16:43] <CavemanZipper> oh ok got it.
[16:43] <CavemanZipper> so would you say linux is more stable?
[16:43] <nothingspecial> Ubuntu is supposed to be easy to use with a nice graphical interface, but it doesn't stop you doing the general linuxy cli stuff if you want
[16:44] <Unit193> Well, that's harder to say as ArchLinux is on the bleeding edge, while Debian stable is very, well, stable.
[16:50] <CavemanZipper> sorry guys!
[16:50] <CavemanZipper> I did that ctrl alt F1 thing
[16:50] <CavemanZipper> And I didnt know how to get out
[16:50] <CavemanZipper> Had to go all ALT CTRL DEL on that :P
[16:50] <Unit193> Ctrl+alt+f8, generally.
[16:50] <Unit193> !tty
[16:50] <CavemanZipper> OHH
[16:50] <ubot2> To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution.
[16:50] <CavemanZipper> that'll get me out?
[16:50] <CavemanZipper> oh..
[16:50] <CavemanZipper> What's TTY?
[16:51] <nothingspecial> tele-type-terminal, or linux withought the windowys boxy things
[16:51] <CavemanZipper> oh..
[16:52] <CavemanZipper> so TTY is the command line interface?
[16:52] <msdaisy> yes
[16:52] <msdaisy> it's one.  You can also hit ctrl + alt + t and get a terminal window.
[16:52] <Unit193> Though you could pull up a terminal emulator.
[16:52] <CavemanZipper> which is basically the same thing at the core, but minus nearly all user-friendliness?
[16:52] <nothingspecial> depends what you mean CavemanZipper
[16:52] <CavemanZipper> what's the difference between the TTY and the Terminal within the GUI?
[16:53] <nothingspecial> your original question was about ubuntu being to flashy and wanting to use the cli CavemanZipper ?
[16:53] <Unit193> If the GUI is acting up, or having issues, you can switch to a TTY and fix more easily than pulling up a terminal.
[16:53] <CavemanZipper> yeahp
[16:53] <CavemanZipper> oh..I see unit193
[16:53] <CavemanZipper> what do you mean "acting up"?
[16:54] <CavemanZipper> Does that happen often?
[16:54] <nothingspecial> so, that's how you do it, ctrl-alt-f{1,2,3,4,5,6
[16:54] <CavemanZipper> noted :)
[16:54] <nothingspecial> }
[16:54] <nothingspecial> hi Tiker
[16:55] <CavemanZipper> oh I have another question..
[16:55] <CavemanZipper> what exactly is a "root user"?
[16:55] <CavemanZipper> I'm trying to install rdesktop.
[16:55] <nothingspecial> no one in ubuntu
[16:55] <CavemanZipper> THe guide says to type a command as root user
[16:55] <nothingspecial> but you can elevate your own use by prefacing your command with sudo
[16:55] <Unit193> So, sudo apt-get install rdesktop   but I like freerdp better. :P
[16:56] <Unit193> gksudo if running a graphical program.
[16:56] <nothingspecial> +1
[16:57] <CavemanZipper> aah, alright,
[16:57] <CavemanZipper> What's the explaination behin "sudo"?
[16:57] <CavemanZipper> does it stand for something?
[16:57] <nothingspecial> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:58] <Unit193> I like the psycocats ones...
[16:58] <nothingspecial> asiyu is awesome :)
[16:59] <CavemanZipper> oh i get it
[17:00] <nothingspecial> That page I linked explains it pretty well though
[17:00] <CavemanZipper> so in a way, the sudo protects me from damaging the system irreperably?
[17:00] <CavemanZipper> like User Account Control in Windows?
[17:00] <nothingspecial> you can destroy your system with sudo CavemanZipper
[17:00] <nothingspecial> but only if you choose to :)
[17:00] <CavemanZipper> whoa, ok..any general tips how to avoid accidentally doing that?
[17:01] <CavemanZipper> or is it too intentional and complicated to be done accidentally?
[17:01] <nothingspecial> just think about it anytime you put sudo,gksudo infront of something
[17:01] <Unit193> Just don't run things as root if you can avoid it.
[17:02] <CavemanZipper> its usually not necessary, right?
[17:02] <nothingspecial> no
[17:02] <CavemanZipper> great
[17:02] <Unit193> Installing/uninstalling things will.
[17:02] <CavemanZipper> alright but...how easy is it to screw up?
[17:02] <nothingspecial> depends what you do CavemanZipper
[17:02] <CavemanZipper> like, will i blow it up if I type sudo and hit enter halfway through my entry?
[17:03] <CavemanZipper> like,  sudo apt-get afsdjfioas
[17:03] <nothingspecial> depends what half the entry was
[17:03] <CavemanZipper> will random letters be bad? :3
[17:03] <nothingspecial> you don't really need sudo much
[17:04] <nothingspecial> updating and installing have their own guis that do just that and don't let you damage your system
[17:04]  * Unit193 hides his sudo -i
[17:04] <CavemanZipper> oh, so to install rdesktop,
[17:04] <CavemanZipper> I could actually just get to the website
[17:04] <nothingspecial> other than that, assuming everything works, you shouldn't ever need sudo
[17:04] <CavemanZipper> and download it through the GUI?
[17:05] <nothingspecial> is rdesktop in the software center?
[17:05] <Unit193> It's in the repo, yes.
[17:05] <CavemanZipper> hmm...i'm not sure..where is the software center? is it Ubuntu's iTunes?
[17:05] <Unit193> But, freerdp is a better rewrite, generally.
[17:05] <nothingspecial> sort of
[17:06] <CavemanZipper> when I install through the CLI,
[17:06] <CavemanZipper> like i just did with the rdesktop,
[17:06] <CavemanZipper> where does the file end up?
[17:07] <CavemanZipper> It just appeared to conclude itself
[17:07] <nothingspecial> there will be a nuber of files CavemanZipper
[17:07] <Unit193> dpkg -L rdesktop  will say.
[17:07] <nothingspecial> the apps binary will generally end up in /usr/bin
[17:07] <CavemanZipper> nice
[17:07] <nothingspecial> but it might be /bin
[17:08] <CavemanZipper> its in usr/share
[17:08] <nothingspecial> may me /usr/local/bin
[17:08] <CavemanZipper> where exactly is..."usr"?
[17:08] <nothingspecial>  /usr
[17:09] <nothingspecial> right at the start CavemanZipper
[17:09] <nothingspecial> click "file system"
[17:09] <CavemanZipper> where can I locate it in the GUI
[17:09] <CavemanZipper> gotcha
[17:09] <nothingspecial> do not mess about in there :)
[17:10] <CavemanZipper> will do!
[17:10] <CavemanZipper> or rather, won't do
[17:10] <CavemanZipper> :P
[17:10] <nothingspecial> lol
[17:10] <CavemanZipper> Ok, what's the launching extension for Linux/Ubuntu?
[17:10] <nothingspecial> ??
[17:10] <CavemanZipper> ie. in windows its .exe
[17:10] <nothingspecial> linux does not need an extension
[17:10] <CavemanZipper> so how do I launch this rdesktop I just downloaded?
[17:11] <CavemanZipper> It's got like you said, tons of files..
[17:11] <Unit193> Just type  rdesktop   in any terminal.
[17:11] <Unit193> You can also use a GUI such as remmina, or vinagre (sp) with it.
[17:12] <CavemanZipper> are those "terminal emulators"?
[17:12] <CavemanZipper> Or are they better alternativs to rdesktop
[17:12] <nothingspecial> linux is easy if you just stop thinking like windows :)
[17:13] <Unit193> http://www.freerdp.com/ You tell me. ;)
[17:13] <Unit193> !lwn
[17:13] <ubot2> Factoid 'lwn' not found
[17:13] <Unit193> !lnw
[17:13] <ubot2> Want to know the differences between Windows and Linux? This guide, called "Linux is Not Windows" is a pretty good read -- http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[17:13] <CavemanZipper> I am looking forward to "switching" :P
[17:13] <Unit193> \o/
[17:13] <CavemanZipper> Gonna read it in a mo!
[17:13] <nothingspecial> \o/
[17:14] <CavemanZipper> Aaaah, i see!
[17:14] <CavemanZipper> yknow, Linux is actually looking quite fun for me
[17:14] <CavemanZipper> Quick question..
[17:14] <CavemanZipper> I intend to do lots of writing (I run a blog)
[17:14] <nothingspecial> you should already have vinagre installed
[17:14] <CavemanZipper> Im sure all OSes are practically equal as far as "Word" programs go
[17:15] <CavemanZipper> but how does Linux fare as far as word-processing goes?
[17:15] <nothingspecial> try pressing the super (windows) key and typing remote
[17:15] <CavemanZipper> Oh, and what's that? is it a pre-requisite for freerdp?
[17:15] <phillw> CavemanZipper: depends on what you need?
[17:15] <CavemanZipper> i've got  Remmina
[17:15] <nothingspecial> do you see "remote desktop viewer?
[17:15] <CavemanZipper> phillw, I just intend to do simple essay-writing stuff
[17:15] <nothingspecial> "
[17:16] <CavemanZipper> school work, etc. :P
[17:16] <Unit193> I generally like remmina better, but word processors you have LibreOffice.
[17:16] <CavemanZipper> Yes I think i do..lemme check again
[17:16] <CavemanZipper> "Desktop Sharing
[17:16] <CavemanZipper> Remmina Remote Desktop Client
[17:16] <CavemanZipper> Is LibreOffice good? Stable? comparable or better than Microsoft Word?
[17:17] <nothingspecial> depends on how compatible you need it with ms word
[17:18] <CavemanZipper> hmm...not very much, actually.
[17:18] <CavemanZipper> Just text.
[17:18] <CavemanZipper> Maybe some fonts
[17:18] <CavemanZipper> nothing fancy.
[17:18] <CavemanZipper> dang...how do I use Remmina? Any good guides?
[17:18] <CavemanZipper> I'll probably need it to remote connect to some computers at work
[17:19] <CavemanZipper> I have another laptop beside me now I intend to test the Remmina on.
[17:19] <nothingspecial> can you use ssh?
[17:19] <CavemanZipper> Ready n waiting!
[17:19] <phillw> ssh -X will give you GUI access
[17:19] <CavemanZipper> no not really..
[17:19] <CavemanZipper> not at all..
[17:19] <CavemanZipper> no.
[17:19] <CavemanZipper> :3
[17:20] <nothingspecial> :)
[17:20] <CavemanZipper> can you give me a short walk-trhough?
[17:20] <CavemanZipper> Just to get the basics done?
[17:20] <nothingspecial> I don't know remina, never used it
[17:20] <msdaisy> !ssh
[17:20] <ubot2> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)
[17:21] <Unit193> I do, but it's generally just open and click and the like.
[17:22] <msdaisy> !remmina
[17:22] <ubot2> Factoid 'remmina' not found
[17:22] <msdaisy> fail
[17:22] <CavemanZipper> hahaha
[17:22] <CavemanZipper> so, Remmina is rather GUI based?
[17:23] <Unit193> Yep, if you want to just use freerdp, xfreerdp --help
[17:25] <CavemanZipper> Well..
[17:25] <CavemanZipper> of the 3,
[17:25] <CavemanZipper> rdesktop, freerdp, and REmmina,
[17:25] <CavemanZipper> which is best?
[17:26] <Unit193> !best
[17:26] <CavemanZipper> Installing OpenSSH now btw
[17:26] <ubot2> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[17:26] <Unit193> And remmina is just a gui for either freerdp or rdesktop.
[17:26] <CavemanZipper> Aaah..
[17:26] <CavemanZipper> well is there a sharp learning curve for working with rdesktop and freerdp?
[17:26] <CavemanZipper> !freerdp
[17:26] <ubot2> Factoid 'freerdp' not found
[17:27] <Unit193> I've already said what I personally use, but YMMV.  A little, but not really hard.
[17:28] <CavemanZipper> hmm
[17:28] <CavemanZipper> ok gonna do some research on the 3
[17:33] <CavemanZipper> Ok anyone here familiar with how to use Remmina?
[17:34] <Unit193> Pretty much, but you have to actually ask the question. :P
[17:34] <CavemanZipper> hahahaha
[17:34] <CavemanZipper> okok, here's my question
[17:35] <CavemanZipper> In other programs like TeamViewer, or just Remote Desktop Connection,
[17:35] <CavemanZipper> It's very clean and easy.
[17:35] <CavemanZipper> But though the option is available to me,
[17:35] <CavemanZipper> I want to work on using it on more and more command-based routes
[17:36] <CavemanZipper> through* more command-based routes.
[17:36] <CavemanZipper> Kind of like..a practice.
[17:36] <CavemanZipper> So how do I get the same stuff accomplished
[17:36] <CavemanZipper> ??
[17:36] <CavemanZipper> Like in TeamViewer/RDC, I just need to know their I.P
[17:36] <CavemanZipper> even the GUI-based Remmina has stuff that's alien to me, like "Server"
[17:36] <CavemanZipper> "Domain"
[17:37] <CavemanZipper> and "Color Depth"
[17:37] <CavemanZipper> I mean, I understand all those things but only in different contexts which i'm not sure if they apply here. (ie. Domain = www.example.com)
[17:38] <Unit193> Use the tools without the launcher GUI, for example  xfreerdp --disable-wallpaper -z -u mike -p mypass 10.1.1.50
[17:38] <Unit193> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/xfreerdp
[17:39] <CavemanZipper> Ah, okay
[17:40] <CavemanZipper> where can I learn how to write up a command line like that?
[17:40] <CavemanZipper> I have no idea what -z or -u refers to :P
[17:41] <msdaisy> look at the man page CavemanZipper , they will give you the commands and the options it takes.
[17:42] <CavemanZipper> sorry, could you direct me?
[17:43] <Unit193> I just did.
[17:43] <CavemanZipper> oh MAN pag
[17:43] <Unit193> Type either xfreerdp --help    or man xfreerdp   (or follow the link above)_
[17:43] <CavemanZipper> I thought that was a type :P
[17:44] <CavemanZipper> typo*
[17:45] <CavemanZipper> Hey, i'm gonna turn in for the night soon but there is one final thing I wanna ask u folks
[17:45] <CavemanZipper> :D
[17:45] <CavemanZipper> Is there a standard rule for typing a command line?
[17:46] <CavemanZipper> I see many - things
[17:46] <CavemanZipper> do i type them alphabetically?
[17:46] <CavemanZipper> What takes precedence?
[17:46] <Unit193> Don't have to, just don't use conflicting ones if there are any.,
[17:47] <CavemanZipper> so there doesn't need to be any order?
[17:47] <Unit193> Nope.
[17:47] <CavemanZipper> oh cool!
[17:48] <CavemanZipper> so that line you gave me
[17:48] <CavemanZipper> I just change the variables
[17:48] <CavemanZipper> like the ip address,
[17:48] <CavemanZipper> and the command shld work?
[20:25] <andrikus> hi, I posted a question on the formu, but I might get an answer here quicker: so her'e my question:
[20:26] <andrikus> I tried to remove the global menu bar with:  sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt
[20:26] <andrikus> I then got an error message: E: Unable to locate package appmenu-gtk3
[20:26] <andrikus> what am I doing worng?
[20:28] <beginner> I am a complete beginner and know nothing of coding. Make a long story short I typed this: "sudo rmmod -f iwlwifi" then this" "gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi-disable11n.conf" and now I have no wireless.
[20:29] <Unit193> As far as I know, the global menu is part of Unity, but I don't use it http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity
[20:31] <andrikus> thanks I'll have a look at it, see if that helps me solve my primary probem
[20:32] <andrikus> the command I got from elsewhere in the internet, why did I get the error message?
[20:36] <Unit193> Could be if the package isn't installed, but I would guess it's installed by default.
[20:38] <andrikus> I then tried to install that package and got the same error message
[20:39] <andrikus> (I did sudo apt-get install appmenu-gtk3)
[20:39] <Unit193> ubot2: info appmenu-gtk3
[20:39] <ubot2> Unit193: Package appmenu-gtk3 does not exist in maverick
[20:39] <Unit193> Bah, dumb maverick..... I have it in precise/12.04
[20:42] <andrikus> I did an upgrade to 12.04
[20:42] <andrikus> so, from what I understand is that  I now should have that package
[20:44] <Unit193> That's if you wanted the global menus..... If you want it removed, I'm *guessing* whatever you're looking at tells you to then just uninstall appmenu-gtk and appmenu-qt
[20:46] <andrikus> I think I installed two of the three packages. These two are the ones you descrbe, one gives an error message
[20:49] <andrikus> okay, I'll reboot and see if it solved my menu bar problem
[20:53] <andrikus_> so, back from reboot, my global menu bar is still there
[20:54] <Unit193> I was guessing it's part of Unity, but I suppose since nobody here right now knows you should try #ubuntu.
[20:54] <andrikus_> ank thanks for thinking with me
[20:55] <andrikus_> 'll ask the same wquetion there