[00:02] <MrChrisDruif> AlanBell; CONGRATULATIONS!
[00:30] <mhall119> what'd he win?
[01:01] <mhall119> w 66
[01:08] <IdleOne> q 43
[01:08] <IdleOne> BINGO!
[01:30] <mhall119> \o/
[01:50] <IdleOne> who was it that runs a minecraft server for his kids ?
[01:51] <IdleOne> I need a safe place for my little girl to play and chat
[01:58] <mhall119> IdleOne: popey does I think
[01:59] <IdleOne> mhall119: Thanks I'll PM and ask for details
[06:30] <jussi> regh
[06:30] <jussi> what happened to the "report a problem" that used to be in many help menus... ?
[06:32] <hobgoblin> of what?
[06:32] <hobgoblin> oic
[06:32] <hobgoblin> it's because people started reporting bugs - so they got rid of it ...
[06:33] <hobgoblin> I have no idea really
[06:33] <jussi> hobgoblin: you know, used to be many places you could report a bug from the help menu. In this case, its missing from SW center. do they honestly expect someone to go to the cli and type ubuntu-bug ....
[06:34] <jussi> mind, Im not seeing it in many places now, wonder what happened
[06:34] <jussi> and I also wonder what the correct way to report a bug now it
[06:34] <hobgoblin> ubuntu-bug app
[06:34] <jussi> seriously?
[06:34] <hobgoblin> think so yep
[06:35] <jussi> :/
[06:35] <jussi> ahh, dolphin still has it
[06:35] <hobgoblin> I've not seen the report a problem for a long long time if I think about it
[06:35] <jussi>  and seemingly all my kde apps
[06:36] <jussi> Well then, that, in my opinion, is just crap. Let me think about how we go about rectifying this.
[06:36] <jussi> (ideas welcome)
[06:36] <hobgoblin> report it against ubuntu?
[06:37] <jussi> hrm, perhaps against apport. but still, no, not quite right.
[06:37] <hobgoblin> bit I don't see it in any of the menus in xubuntu either
[06:37] <jussi> seems to be a KDE thing then
[06:37] <hobgoblin> jussi: I don't know if I'd bother tbh - it'd get marked as wishlist or won't fix
[06:38] <jussi> first, Id like it actually clarified from someone what the correct bug reporting route is
[06:38] <hobgoblin> no - it's not a kde thing - I'm sure I used to see it
[06:39] <jussi> hang on, let me see some of the other gnome apps Ive here
[06:39] <hobgoblin> k
[06:40] <jussi> nope, not in anythign
[06:41] <jussi> but in all of the apps from kde it seems, kopete, dolphin, amarok
[06:41] <hobgoblin> jussi: mmmm - no you are making me doubt my memory - not hard ;)
[06:42] <jussi> hehe
[06:42] <jussi> anyway, Im not sure the route to go here, but it does seem a glaring defficiency to me
[06:43] <hobgoblin> pretty sure you wwould ubuntu-bug <thing>
[06:44] <hobgoblin> jussi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=report-a-problem.png
[06:45] <jussi> hobgoblin: well then...
[06:45] <jussi> not such a horrible memory
[06:45] <hobgoblin> woot
[06:45] <hobgoblin> no idea when it went though :(
[06:46] <jussi> well that was uploaded in march...
[06:47] <hobgoblin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs?action=recall&rev=33
[06:48] <hobgoblin> that revision has the menu item in it - that's 2007
[06:51] <hobgoblin> jussi: found when it went :) "we no longer have the menu item Help > Report a problem in stable releases, moving it lower down" 2010-08-03
[06:51] <jussi> oh blah
[06:51] <jussi> I cant read
[06:51] <jussi> silly.
[06:51] <jussi> I wonder why the decision was taken
[06:51] <hobgoblin> no idea
[06:52] <jussi> this coffee is really bad, but its morning and I need it...
[06:52] <hobgoblin> before unity so I doubt it was that - might have been gnome even
[06:52] <jussi> :(
[06:53] <hobgoblin> jussi: I'm blaming you for the cold tea ... :p
[06:53] <jussi> so i really have to go to the cli to report a bug? :(
[06:53] <hobgoblin> yep
[06:53] <jussi> sigh
[06:54] <hobgoblin> and when you get the pretty box with something that says more detail - say more detail and page down - if there's a duplicate it mentions it :)
[06:54] <hobgoblin> mmm no it won't
[06:55] <hobgoblin> it does if there's a crash and apport starts it off
[06:55] <jussi> oh come on DNA, where is my 100mbit internet... this 10 mbit is too slow :P
[07:05] <jussi> hobgoblin: bug 1013982
[07:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1013982 in software-center "Free items in the SW center are marked buy. " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013982
[07:11] <hobgoblin> jussi: that's not to do with Report this problem :p
[07:12] <hobgoblin> I think I've seen that somewhere already too ...
[07:12] <jussi> hobgoblin: yed, but its the bug I was trying to report :P
[07:12] <hobgoblin> oic lol
[07:13] <jussi> (feel free to triage it)
[07:13] <hobgoblin> I don't do bugs jussi - no idea how to :)
[07:13] <jussi> :D
[07:16] <popey> morning
[07:16] <hobgoblin> morning popey
[07:16]  * hobgoblin is happy to be on the south coast popey - we have some sun today :)
[07:17] <hobgoblin> jussi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/968974
[07:17] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 968974 in software-center "Some free applications looks like paid applications with price 0.00 and with buy button" [High,Confirmed]
[07:25] <popey> hobgoblin: whereabouts are you?
[07:26] <hobgoblin> new forest -  halfway between southampton and bournemouth
[07:27] <jussi> argh, am I blind?  where is the LP duplicate button? :/
[07:27] <popey> oh, my sister lives out that way
[07:27] <popey> jussi: top right
[07:28] <jussi> thanks popey
[07:28] <hobgoblin> jussi: see if you'd spoken about the actual bug and not the where' Report a problem gone - I'd have saved you all that hassle :D
[07:28] <popey> done ☺
[07:28] <jussi> hobgoblin: yea, but the report a problem gone is still a problem
[07:29] <hobgoblin> lol
[07:29] <hobgoblin> ask popey - he might know :)
[07:29] <hobgoblin> popey: it's not a bad part of the country to be in
[07:29] <popey> yeah
[07:29] <popey> i grew up near there, Totton
[07:31] <hobgoblin> :) that's a place - I suspect it was better then than now
[07:31] <popey> yes, it was
[07:31] <hobgoblin> I'm in Lymington
[07:31] <popey> oh nice
[07:31] <popey> my nan still lives down there, we left in 1979
[07:31] <hobgoblin> I wish I was loaded enough to have moved here from outside - unfortunately not
[07:32] <hobgoblin> my grandad was the Milford on sea blacksmith - we're quite local :)
[07:32] <popey> heh
[07:32] <popey> milford is nice too, nice walks along the beach after xmas dinner ☺
[07:32] <popey> s/beach/coast/ ☺
[07:33] <hobgoblin> yep
[09:57] <bkerensa> good night!
[18:26] <jcastro> mhall119: around?