[00:07] <Jordan_U> Myrtti: They've had many warnings in the past.
[05:12] <bazhang> 30 bit color capability?
[05:14] <dax> what about it?
[05:15] <bazhang> odd question
[05:15] <dax> a lot of "32-bit" color systems are actually 30-bit
[06:16] <chu> Umm, m13 in #ubuntu
[06:16] <chu> mi3 even
 btw Lotium is sending queries to people with explicit material. You guys should probably kb him.
[06:54] <chu> Still? I thought dax took care of him, but maybe not.
[06:54] <JoseeAntonioR> chu: Not sure, I told the user to just /ignore. After that being said, he didn't say anything else.
[10:25] <ANub> guys is there any channel for x server support
[14:23] <bazhang> main server? hope he's not confusing repo with server
[14:53] <elky> all works :D
 Bunie: just plugin and you will see it into Nautilus
[14:56] <bazhang> how to mount a drive
[15:56] <mneptok> off for a chore. if you're around, watch "dontknow" in #u?
[15:57] <oCean> yep
[16:21] <bazhang> apt-get install UBUNTU-ULTIMEte --recommends+atumatix
[16:22] <oCean> (:
[16:26] <bazhang> l_r seems to be the exact issue as mr Dontknow
[16:26] <bazhang> uncloak to ban dodge perhaps?
[16:27] <oCean> nah
[16:27] <oCean> dontknow seemed to suddenly have same issues as others
[16:27] <bazhang> dontknow, hello
[16:27] <dontknow> hi
[16:28] <dontknow> i am kicked
[16:28] <dontknow> wtf
[16:28] <bazhang> banned
[16:28] <dontknow> i will never enter #ubuntu now?
[16:28] <bazhang> dontknow, you are forwarded here
[16:29] <dontknow> bazhang, are you admin?
[16:29] <bazhang> dontknow, this is #ubuntu-ops
[16:29] <bazhang> dontknow, do you know why you were banned?
[16:29] <dontknow> bazhang, so what is this? limbo? lol
[16:30] <dontknow> i suggested cinnamon, wat the hell
[16:31] <bazhang> thats not part of ubuntu, it's not supported, and offtopic
[16:32] <dontknow> this attitude is not forgiveable, against linux philosophy
[16:32] <bazhang> ##linux or mintsupport for Mint stuff
[16:32] <dontknow> i am using cinnamon right now instead of toy unity, and it is very stable now
[16:33] <dontknow> bazhang, what are you doing here?
[16:33] <bazhang> then get mintsupport
[16:33] <dontknow> bazhang, are you banned too?
[16:33] <oCean> dontknow: so you think everything that is considered stable should be on topic for the #ubuntu channel?
[16:33] <bazhang> dontknow, mint packages are not part of ubuntu
[16:33] <dontknow> oCean, of course, why not
[16:33] <oCean> dontknow: because it is a specific #ubuntu channel
[16:34] <oCean> for general Linux support/discussion there is already ##linux
[16:34] <oCean> or, specific mint channels
[16:34] <bazhang> or mintsupport
[16:34] <oCean> dontknow: so, the ubuntu community decided to have channels for very specific ubuntu support
[16:34] <bazhang> !mintsupport | dontknow
[16:35] <dontknow> really, what are you two doing here?
[16:35] <oCean> dontknow: have you read the topic?
[16:35] <oCean> /topic
[16:35] <bazhang> dontknow, we moderate ubuntu channels
[16:35] <dontknow> lol
[16:35] <dontknow> are you also developer of ubuntu?
[16:36] <oCean> how is that relevant?
[16:36] <bazhang> dontknow, you are using mint packages, better get help with them
[16:36] <dontknow> bazhang, i am not using mint, using ubuntu with cinnamon, thats just it
[16:37] <bazhang> dontknow, cinnamon is not supported in ubuntu channels. recommending it is also offtopic in ubuntu channels
[16:37] <dontknow> oCean, i don't know, maybe you are also a developer who knows
[16:37] <dontknow> bazhang, it shouldn't be
[16:38] <dontknow> bazhang, and i didn't want support about it actually, i just suggested to a user didn't like lubuntu
[16:39] <bazhang> dontknow, it's not a debate.
[16:39] <bazhang> dontknow, if you dont wish to follow the channel guidelines, then you wont be allowed to use the ubuntu channels
[16:40] <dontknow> bazhang, could you take me out of this limbo?
[16:41] <dontknow> bazhang, do you have restriction for that?
[16:41] <bazhang> dontknow, you need to follow the channel guidelines
[16:42] <dontknow> bazhang, ok ok got it. i have a liriminal record now
[16:42] <bazhang> ?
[16:43] <dontknow> this is like i am guilty and you are the bad cop and good cop, what the hell? :D
[16:44] <dontknow> no no this is more like a limbo, yes
[16:44] <Tm_T> no point
[16:45] <bazhang> thanks Tm_T
[16:45] <dontknow> :D hey
[16:46] <Tm_T> dontknow: so, you're here to discuss your ban, not for making jokes, or other activity
[16:46] <dontknow> Tm_T, ok, i will discuss, but i hope you will take it serious
[16:47] <Tm_T> I am taking it very seriously
[16:48] <dontknow> Tm_T, an user told that didn't like lubuntu and prefers ubuntu, and i suggested him/her use cinnamon
[16:48] <Tm_T> dontknow: you understand that it's not allowed recommendation on #ubuntu?
[16:48] <Tm_T> we don't recommend or support cinnamon on #ubuntu
[16:49] <dontknow> Tm_T, i didn't know that you against it so strongly actually, it suprised me!
[16:50] <Tm_T> basicly, on #ubuntu we support what ubuntu supports
[16:50] <Tm_T> afterall, it is ubuntu support channel
[16:51] <dontknow> Tm_T, ok got it, but it is really interesting
[16:52] <dontknow> Tm_T, could you take this ban now, please?
[16:52] <Tm_T> dontknow: have you read our channel guidelines?
[16:53] <dontknow> Tm_T, no
[16:53] <Tm_T> please do
[16:53] <Tm_T> !guidelines | dontknow
[16:55] <dontknow> Tm_T, ok got it :D
[16:56] <Tm_T> dontknow: also, what do you do when you are uncertain of rules, or disagree when being told in channel?
[16:58] <dontknow> Tm_T, i will tell my ideas
[16:58] <Tm_T> in our support channel?
[16:58] <dontknow> Tm_T, i think unity is like a toy
[16:58] <dontknow> Tm_T, is it wrong to say that? it is my thoughts
[16:58] <Tm_T> dontknow: that has nothing to do with this discussion
[16:59] <oCean> dontknow: #ubuntu is for support, not general discussion
[16:59] <Tm_T> dontknow: also let's make this clear: such opinions don't belong to our support channels
[17:00] <dontknow> Tm_T, i told cinnamon is very stable on ubuntu, and mn(whatever) told me "i wasn't ask"
[17:00] <Tm_T> dontknow: cinnamon discussion doesn't belong to #ubuntu
[17:01] <Tm_T> if you want to rant about unity, do it in your blog or whatever
[17:01] <dontknow> Tm_T, it is not rant, it is really not useful actually
[17:02] <Tm_T> dontknow: that is your opinion
[17:02] <dontknow> Tm_T, yes
[17:02] <Tm_T> that's not ubuntu support
[17:02] <dontknow> Tm_T, ok i got the core what you are saying,  i see
[17:03] <Tm_T> so either provide ubuntu support on #ubuntu, or do your own thing in your own space
[17:04] <dontknow> Tm_T, if someone ask about cinnamon, no one should answer? i would answer if i know
[17:04] <AlanBell> !mint
[17:05] <AlanBell> is a suitable thing to do to direct people to a place where better support of cinamon can be provided
[17:05] <Tm_T> dontknow: you would tell them to go to a channel where cinnamon is supported, as AlanBell is pointing out
[17:06] <dontknow> Tm_T, why should i, after all i know the answer, i would answer them.
[17:06] <AlanBell> because nobody else knows if you are right or wrong
[17:06] <Tm_T> also it's offtopic
[17:06] <AlanBell> if we are supporting ubuntu then there is peer review of the support
[17:07] <AlanBell> if you are supporting something else in there it is noisy, and we can't assess the quality of the support
[17:08] <dontknow> AlanBell, are you checking every chat line?
[17:09] <dontknow> AlanBell, every support line
[17:09] <dontknow> i doubt it
[17:09] <AlanBell> dontknow: it would be great if we could get you back into #ubuntu providing support on Ubuntu
[17:10] <AlanBell> do you want to do that?
[17:10] <dontknow> AlanBell, yes, take back this ban, please
[17:12] <dontknow> AlanBell, but i am not approve that something open source is forbidden to chat about it
[17:13] <AlanBell> it is not forbidden, it is just off topic for that area, somewhat like discussing washing machine repairs in there would be
[17:14] <dontknow> AlanBell, i think it is not like that, but its ok, i would like to go back #ubuntu
[17:14] <dontknow> AlanBell, because i have had issues time to time
[17:15] <dontknow> and i am really getting help
[17:15] <AlanBell> it is a valuable resource, because it is focussed :)
[17:20] <dontknow> why am i still banned?
[17:20] <AlanBell> one sec dontknow
[17:21] <AlanBell> dontknow: please rejoin #ubuntu and continue providing and receiving quality support on *ubuntu*
[17:21] <dontknow> AlanBell, thanks
[17:22] <AlanBell> and please part this channel once you have successfully rejoined
[17:22] <dontknow> AlanBell, you mean #ubuntu-ops? do you want me to moderate :P
[17:23] <dontknow> *do you want me to as admin :P
[17:23] <AlanBell> one step at a time :)
[17:23] <AlanBell> we ask people not to idle here so we can resolve issues one at a time
[17:25] <dontknow> AlanBell, yes, i can join now
[17:25] <IdleOne> dontknow: Please /part this channel now.
[17:26] <dontknow> IdleOne, do you mean i should type "/part dontknow"
[17:26] <IdleOne> dontknow: I mean leave #ubuntu-ops
[17:27] <dontknow> IdleOne, lol i see, bye :)
[19:07] <bazhang> why is the floodbot flagging redviper like that
[19:18] <bazhang> not sure how much clearer I can be
[19:18] <bazhang> does ifconfig show eth0
[19:28] <mneptok> here's another issue today from dontknow. happened earlier than the off-topicness, and may be missed in the BT.
[19:29]  * mneptok pastes mildly
[19:29] <mneptok> 04:26 < dontknow> hd2400 with catalyst video performance sucks
[19:29] <mneptok> 04:27 < MonkeyDust> dontknow mind your language
[19:29] <mneptok> 04:39 < dontknow> MonkeyDust, shut up i know that you are troll
[19:29] <mneptok> so, short leash.
[19:30] <bazhang> oy vey
 Can someone help me convert xp to ubuntu? I downloaded the ISO i don't know how to mount it now :(