[00:57] <c_smith> hello
[00:57]  * c_smith is at Broadway Commons hoping someone shows up
[16:08]  * bkerensa gets ready to head down to PSU
[16:08] <bkerensa> slangasek: I'm bringing the bluetooth :)
[16:11] <blkperl> bkerensa: i need door minions
[16:11] <blkperl> unfortunately their locked
[16:20] <bkerensa> blkperl: what does that mean?
[16:21] <bkerensa> should I not come? :P
[16:23] <blkperl> bkerensa: no you should come, to help me
[16:23] <blkperl> :)
[16:24] <bkerensa> ok well just a FYI its going to talk be a half hour at best.... I am still gettined proper and will be heading out shortly
[16:24] <bkerensa> gotta bring some kind of swag ya know
[16:26] <blkperl> ok
[16:35] <kees> Room 86-01!
[16:35] <kees> on my way
[16:37] <blkperl> kees: theres a sign on the EB front door call that number and ill let you in :)
[16:40] <kees> blkperl: cool
[16:45] <blkperl> lame someone not going to Ubuntu day just used me to get in...
[16:46] <bkerensa> blkperl: tell them "Not cool man"
[16:46]  * bkerensa waits on bus to arrive
[16:47] <bkerensa> blkperl: you just missed the bagel request on mailing list :P
[16:47]  * blkperl really wishes the conference room had a phone <.<
[16:47] <bkerensa> speaking of it how far deep into the catacombs is this room?
[16:48] <blkperl> down the stairs and to the left
[16:48] <blkperl> whopper922: are you coming today
[17:12] <slangasek> bkerensa: ack; will bring mine as well for cross-product testing
[17:13] <slangasek> I'm running a bit late as you can see, but should be there in about a half hour I think
[17:23] <c_smith> hello
[17:28] <blkperl> c_smith: hi
[17:28] <c_smith> how goes it?
[17:30] <blkperl> good, you coming to ubuntu bug day?
[17:33] <c_smith> nope, don't have time to get down there, nor do I have a ride there.
[17:33] <c_smith> actually, I have time, but no ride.
[17:34] <c_smith> gotta love it when you don't have your day straight.... >.<
[17:53] <nathwill> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/GettingSetUp
[17:53] <nathwill> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix
[17:53] <c_smith> nathwill, those are links I should have put in my bookmarks long before now.
[17:53] <nathwill> :D
[17:54] <nathwill> run through them in the same order
[17:54] <c_smith> bookmarking now.
[17:54] <nathwill> they're pretty useful
[17:54] <nathwill> holler if you hit problems
[17:54] <c_smith> eh, I have a bit going on now (ubuntu blew up, so I'm installing 32-bit instead of my usual 64-bit, my PC only has 3 GB of RAM, anyway)
[17:56] <c_smith> plus my C&C The FIrst Decade doesn't like 64-bit Wine.  but it runs fine on 32-bit Wine
[18:02] <blkperl> marut: hi
[18:02] <marut> hi all
[18:02] <c_smith> hello, marut
[18:03] <vagrantc> ah, this looks more promising
[18:03]  * kees waves "hi"
[18:03] <KorvinSzanto> Hi
[18:03] <kees> hola!
[18:03] <KorvinSzanto> Not able to make it until later
[18:03] <nathwill> gruesse!
[18:03] <jpiroshky> cheers!
[18:05] <houk__> hello?
[18:05] <KorvinSzanto> Hi
[18:05] <kees> hi!
[18:05] <amj> hi
[18:05] <houk__> Yay, no bubble !!!
[18:05] <kees> anyone wanting a build environment for the day, please email me (kees@debian.org) and I'll send details
[18:06] <KorvinSzanto> I'm trying to grep for trailing spaces using [ \t]+$, how do I format that regex to work with grep?
[18:06] <slangasek> tngodup: welcome :)
[18:06] <kees> details on using environment: http://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2011/12/us/Portland/Builders
[18:06] <slangasek> http://wiki.debian.org/BSP/BeginnersHOWTO
[18:07] <tngodup> thanx
[18:12] <blkperl> spw2: hi
[18:12] <blkperl> spw2: http://wiki.debian.org/BSP/BeginnersHOWTO
[18:12] <c_smith> could I possibly participate from where I am (home)?
[18:12] <kees> c_smith: sure!
[18:13] <c_smith> cool, once I have these updates done, I'll be starting.
[18:14] <c_smith> although, I'll likely be focusing on easy (bytesize) bugs in Ubuntu, I am in no way a programmer, nor do I have coding knowledge.
[18:15] <spw2> c_smith: right there with ya, but on the opposite. I am a programmer, but have nearly NO linux knowledge. feel lost.
[18:15] <slangasek> http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=wheezy_and_sid&fnewer=&fnewerval=7&rc=1
[18:15] <c_smith> spw2, well, first time for everything, eh?
[18:16] <spw2> i sure hope so.
[18:19] <tgm4883> c_smith, why are you running it on 64-bit wine
[18:19] <tgm4883> even the wine developers admit 64-bit wine sucks
[18:19] <c_smith> tgm4883, because that was the version installed on 64-bit Windows.
[18:20] <c_smith> *64-bit Ubuntu, not Windows.
[18:20] <c_smith> might have been running in compatibility mode, but the installshield wizard didn't like even that.
[18:20] <tgm4883> c_smith, wait, you mean wine 32
[18:20] <c_smith> probably.
[18:20] <tgm4883> you have to compile wine64 by hand
[18:21] <tgm4883> so it should run the same on both 64-bit ubuntu and 32-bit ubuntu, since the wine is the same
[18:21] <tgm4883> wine64 is for running 64-bit windows programs
[18:22] <c_smith> not sure. it had "Program Files" and "Program Files  (x86)" in the wine prefix.
[18:22] <tgm4883> hmm
[18:22] <c_smith> so that lead me to believe it had installed Wine64.
[18:22] <tgm4883> strange
[18:22] <tgm4883> sounds like that to me too
[18:22] <c_smith> might have changed. eh?
[18:23] <c_smith> anywho, suffice it to say, I'm running 32-bit now, the architecture my laptop was built for.
[18:23] <tgm4883> well now I'm just confused, which means it's time for me to go get coffee
[18:23] <c_smith> I'm not really getting any benefit on the laptop by running 64-bit over 32-bit.
[18:51] <bkerensa> Don't forget to signup for the mailing list and launchpad http://ubuntu-oregon.org
[18:59]  * c_smith is already there
[18:59]  * c_smith continues to wait for pbuilder
[19:10] <vagrantc> pbuilder? :(
[19:12] <c_smith> vagrantc, what's wrong with pbuilder?
[19:12] <slangasek> it's a NIH kludge, and anything that behaves differently under pbuilder than under sbuild is a pbuilder bug by definition because sbuild is what the buildds use :)
[19:13] <c_smith> lol
[19:14] <c_smith> gnupg is useful for not just development, like if you wanted to encrypt a file.
[19:14] <c_smith> just saying.
[19:15] <c_smith> >.< think I attracted someone from #linuxdistrocommunity
[19:15] <corp769> yes you did, lol
[19:15] <c_smith> not that it's a bad thing :P
[19:15] <corp769> just checking it out man
[19:16] <c_smith> corp769, you aren't from Oregon, are you?
[19:16] <corp769> no i'm not
[19:16] <corp769> why do you ask?
[19:16] <c_smith> oh, ok
[19:16] <c_smith> simply because this LoCo is for that state.
[19:16] <corp769> yeah i noticed
[19:17] <corp769> i was just checking out the channel, that's all
[19:17] <corp769> but i'm out
[19:17] <corp769> take care man
[19:17] <c_smith> and it'd be nice to be able to invite you to an Ubuntu Hour.
[19:17] <c_smith> cya
[19:17] <corp769> ubuntu hour?
[19:18] <corp769> what's ubuntu hour, c_smith?
[19:18] <c_smith> corp769, I sent you a message with the wiki page about it.
[19:19] <corp769> oh ok
[19:19] <corp769> i'm checking it out, thanks man
[19:19] <c_smith> no prob
[19:39] <c_smith> does anyone here know if Harvest is working yet?
[19:39] <slangasek> "working"?
[19:41] <c_smith> if I remember, the opportunities weren't refreshing back when the Global Jam was happening.
[19:41] <nathwill> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=617938 ?? seems like it's wontfix.
[19:41] <c_smith> has that changed?
[19:42] <c_smith> slangasek, the opportunities weren't refreshing back at the Global Jam, has that changed?
[19:45] <c_smith> if I'm working with wrong dependencies, is that purely in the debian rules file?
[19:46] <slangasek> c_smith: refreshing> ah, I couldn't say
[19:47] <slangasek> c_smith: dependencies are always in debian/control, not debian/rules
[19:47] <c_smith> slangasek, ok
[19:47] <c_smith> and thanks for the tip on the dependancies, I knew it was one of the debian files.
[19:48] <c_smith> another question: if I manage to fix this bug, would it be good practice to upload it to Debian first?
[19:48] <c_smith> being as it's Pidgin.
[19:50] <slangasek> r0csteady: http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=wheezy_and_sid&fnewer=&fnewerval=7&rc=1
[19:54] <c_smith> meh, looks like the bug was fixed.... >.<
[20:15] <slangasek> tngodup: so once you have a handle on the build environment, you would want to do: schroot -u root -c sid; apt-get install zhcon gdb; GGI_DISPLAY=really_long_string_to_try_to_reproduce_the_crash zhcon; then if it does crash, GGI_DISPLAY=really_long_string_to_try_to_reproduce_the_crash gdb zhcon
[20:15] <tngodup> ok
[20:28] <c_smith> hello
[20:28] <c_smith> bkerensa, has the meeting ended?
[20:29] <c_smith> or has it not begun?
[20:36] <c_smith> bkerensa, did I miss the meeting?
[20:40] <bkerensa> Are there any agenda items?
[20:42] <c_smith> don't know. let me check
[20:42] <bkerensa> I think there is not and we have nothing to discuss her unless you do?
[20:44] <c_smith> nah, just wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything.
[20:44] <c_smith> now I have some stuff to do.
[20:45] <c_smith> cya
[20:55] <slangasek> closed Debian bug #603405
[20:55] <slangasek> would put an RC bug count in the topic, but it's locked ;)
[20:58]  * vagrantc ponders #debian-bugs
[21:18] <r0csteady> ohai jpiroshky
[21:19] <c_smith> hello, r0csteady
[21:29] <jpiroshky> hey j00 guys, lets be good friends ^_^
[21:44] <c_smith> hello, jpiroshky
[21:44]  * c_smith goes back to listening to a talk about IP and DNS
[21:47] <jpiroshky> man -k pxe
[21:47] <jpiroshky> oops ^_^
[23:05] <nathwill> so... i'm pretty sure that this bug is wrong
[23:05] <nathwill> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631257
[23:10] <slangasek> nathwill: wrong how?
[23:19] <devxdev> any one on thats @ bsp?
[23:30] <vagrantc> things are winding down on the BSP
[23:31] <devxdev> :( just got back from the beach, that was the agreement with the wife, I go if she gets to go to the beach lol
[23:40] <vagrantc> well, there are still people here
[23:46] <kees> come back nathwill!
[23:46] <vagrantc> wait a minute...
[23:48] <kees> his bug looks valid to me
[23:48] <kees> dovecot postinst will overwrite half a cert. oops