[08:31] <Chat7211> molweni.Dumelang.
[08:42] <sflr> happy youth day every one!
[10:07] <NeVeR_> what a waste of a public holiday :( On a saturday ftl..
[10:28] <charl> afternoon
[10:28] <charl> father's day, mother's day, youth day, children's day, everyone needs a day
[10:29] <charl> what about grandparent's day
[10:29] <charl> and infants day
[10:39] <NeVeR_> lol
[10:39] <NeVeR_> or "My day"
[10:40] <NeVeR_> or Young adults day
[10:40] <NeVeR_> singles day
[10:40] <NeVeR_> ubuntu day
[10:46] <charl> yup
[10:47] <charl> i srsly don't care for public holidays
[10:47] <Banlam> NeVeR_, I'm sure if you actually do a search, most of those days exist
[10:47] <Banlam> whether widely accepted or not
[10:48] <NeVeR_> :P
[10:54] <Kilos> sjoe
[10:55] <Kilos> cremora minora
[11:01] <Kilos> yo Banlam charl
[11:03] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee on
[11:03]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[11:04] <Kilos> inetpro: ping
[11:07] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[11:07] <Kilos> yo Tonberrymeeting monday night hey
[11:07] <Tonberry> oh
[11:07] <Tonberry> ok
[11:07] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[11:07] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[11:52] <Kilos> twitter is really lagging today
[11:52] <Kilos> maybe its choqok
[11:53] <charl> hi Kilos 
[12:58] <nuvolari> o/
[12:58] <nuvolari> lo
[13:01] <Kilos> yo nuvolari
[13:08] <Kilos> nog nie bloeps uitgewerk in Konversation nie
[13:12] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos 
[13:12] <nuvolari> maar vir hoekom gebruik oom Konversation?
[13:17] <charl> konversation... dat is tog 'n instant messaging program?
[13:18] <charl> meeste instant messaging programme ondersteun ook irc so dit kan wel
[13:18] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[13:18]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[13:18] <charl> danke schon
[13:19] <inetpro> Konversation is a user-friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client built on the KDE Platform
[13:19] <charl> ah... what was the KDE IM client called again...
[13:19] <inetpro> http://konversation.kde.org/?about
[13:19] <inetpro> charl: Kopete
[13:19] <charl> oh wait, that was called kopete yes
[13:19] <charl> sorry got the two mixed up
[13:20] <charl> there was another programme called i think quassel
[13:20] <charl> i really disliked that one
[13:22] <charl> Kilos: please let us know how you find konversation to be... i think i should switch from xchat/irssi
[13:22] <inetpro> charl: eh, it may not be as feature complete as konversation but it is brilliant when used together with quassel-core
[13:22] <charl> oh wait quassel-core is a bnc right?
[13:22] <charl> yeah ok never tried that
[13:22] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee please
[13:22] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[13:22] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[13:22] <charl> i only have one problem with irssi... and that is there is no mention notification
[13:23] <charl> i know you can hack it in with your own scripts though but that's an advantage of a gui client
[13:23] <Kilos> charl: havent got sound in konveration yet but very like xchat
[13:24] <Kilos> maqybe xchat better
[13:24] <charl> ah ok
[13:24] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[13:24] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[13:24] <Charl> Maaz: danke schon
[13:24] <Maaz> Charl: *blink*
[13:25] <Charl> Maaz: botsnack
[13:25] <Maaz> Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well
[13:25] <Kilos> xchat is more user friendly if you are gnome oriented
[13:25] <inetpro> Kilos: go to Configure | Notifications
[13:25] <Kilos> yo inetpro
[13:25] <inetpro> Kilos: oops, go to Settings | Configure Notifications
[13:26] <Kilos> got it ty inetpro
[13:27] <Kilos> takes a bit of getting used to the different names for things
[13:27] <inetpro> you can set all kinds of sounds for multiple events
[13:27] <Kilos> also inetpro i had to /msg nickserv to say its me
[13:28] <inetpro> something like 17 different events
[13:28] <Kilos> oh and its going via ubuntu irc not freenode. is that ok?
[13:28] <inetpro> Kilos: it's easier than falling off a tree, just go figure
[13:29] <Kilos> hahaha ya man i spent hours with it
[13:29] <Kilos> xchat is easier for ordinary peeps
[13:30] <inetpro> you can change the defaults and connect to chat.freenode.net on port 7070 in stead
[13:30] <Kilos> whats the diffs?
[13:30] <inetpro> Kilos: just because you are used to it?
[13:30] <Kilos> will it get here easier
[13:31] <inetpro> it's the same all over
[13:31] <inetpro> it's just another one of many many irc clients
[13:31] <Kilos> ah then its ok
[13:32] <inetpro> the important issues to learn is where to connect to and what your nickname is
[13:32] <Kilos> oh and with xchat i see more info next to nicks like IP etc
[13:33] <Kilos> is that also another thing i must go figure?
[13:33] <Kilos> and i gotta start from cli, nothing in internet goodies
[13:34] <inetpro> gotta start from cli?
[13:34] <Kilos> so we gonna be off anyway for a while
[13:34] <Kilos> have to start it in terminal
[13:34] <inetpro> hmm... 
[13:34] <inetpro> Kilos: nee man
[13:35] <Kilos> lol what am i missing
[13:35] <inetpro> anyways, me has to go now
[13:35]  * inetpro wanna try and upgrade some machines today
[13:35] <Kilos> ok see yous when freenode revives
[13:36] <Kilos> im on ubuntu irc so it wont bug me
[13:36] <Kilos> only you freenode guys
[14:06] <Kilos> oh nuvolari also if i can get used to kde maybe my pc will handle 12.04 without getting another graphics card
[14:15] <Kilos> Maaz, hi
[14:15]  * Maaz waves to Kilos
[14:15] <Kilos> ah only chanserv quit
[15:01] <nuvolari> superfly: ping
[15:01] <nuvolari> (or anyone python-savvy)
[15:02] <zeref> nuvolari: i know a bit of python
[15:03] <nuvolari> zeref: do you know how to remove something that has been installed using setuptools?
[15:07] <zeref> ummm
[15:07] <zeref> setuptools has the easy install module right?
[15:07] <nuvolari> yeah, that's about all I know :P
[15:08] <zeref> if yes then easy_install -mxN PackageName
[15:09] <zeref> i used to use this guide: http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall
[15:21] <nuvolari> zeref: thanks
[15:36] <Kilos> inetpro, when you dumping unity?
[16:02] <magespawn> Evening all
[16:02] <Kilos> yo magespawn 
[16:13] <magespawn> Hey Kilos
[16:18] <magespawn> Whats up?
[16:18] <Kilos> not much. too cold to think up here
[16:19] <Kilos> hi sflr 
[16:20] <sflr> hi Kilos!
[16:20] <magespawn> Hah you guys should really come here for winter.
[16:20] <magespawn> Hi sflr
[16:21] <Kilos> yeah i agree. tvl no good in winter
[16:21] <sflr> hi magespawn
[16:21] <sflr> what is there in winter?
[16:21] <Kilos> northern natal
[16:21] <magespawn> Hluhluwe
[16:23] <Charl> i would melt there
[16:23] <Charl> i visited my uncle in nelspruit a few times
[16:23] <sflr> haha, is it nice and warm there?
[16:23] <Kilos> lol lekker for ballies
[16:23] <Charl> yup
[16:24] <magespawn> Hluhluwe has two seasons, summer which is now and hell which is the rest of the year
[16:24] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[16:24] <Kilos> even summer ther is good man
[16:24] <Kilos> worked there in summer
[16:24] <Kilos> gets warm at times
[16:24] <Kilos> 40°c
[16:25] <magespawn> 90% humidity
[16:25] <sflr> hectic. is it close to the beach at least?
[16:25] <Kilos> humidity is good
[16:25] <Kilos> no lung probs
[16:26] <magespawn> No not really about 100km drive.
[16:27] <sflr> there must be a reason there is a city there. agriculture?
[16:27] <Kilos> farmers
[16:27] <sflr> ok
[16:28] <Kilos> somewhere there are big pineapple farms too i think
[16:28] <Kilos> and the game reserve is right there
[16:29] <magespawn> Biggest pineapple farms in SA, sokething like 80 - 90% os SA total.
[16:29] <magespawn> Something
[16:30] <magespawn> Not a city small town / village.
[16:30] <Kilos> dorpie
[16:30] <sflr> pineapple must be cheap there!
[16:30] <magespawn> Yup
[16:30] <magespawn> And yup.
[16:30] <sflr> yes, i looked on the map now
[16:30] <Kilos> big queen pines if i member right
[16:30] <Kilos> and canning factory near by
[16:31] <magespawn> And some small ones, no canning factory here.
[16:31] <Kilos> oh is it bit north
[16:31] <Kilos> i cant member 30 years back
[16:32] <magespawn> There is no factory here now.
[16:32] <Kilos> it wasnt in hluhluwe it was onna farm somewhere
[16:32] <Kilos> north
[16:33] <Kilos> tween you and that big dam
[16:33] <sflr> how is the internet connection there?
[16:33] <magespawn> There is a drying factory, I think that used to be canning. Most of the pineapples are userd for fresh export.
[16:33] <Banlam> dried pineapple?
[16:34] <Kilos> ah
[16:34] <magespawn> In the town cell 3g and adsl, outside gprs.
[16:34] <magespawn> Yes Banlam.
[16:34] <Banlam> how do i not know about this
[16:35] <Kilos> just so you can say everyday i learn something new
[16:35] <magespawn> Indeed.
[16:35] <Kilos> yo smile 
[16:37] <smile> hi! :D
[16:37] <magespawn> Western cqpe is where most of the canning pineapples come from now.
[16:38] <magespawn> Cape
[16:38] <sflr> there is a soccer and rugby field :) looking at it in google earth. and 3 traffic circles. lol
[16:38]  * Banlam hasn't seen pineapples in WC before
[16:39] <magespawn> Yup thats us.
[16:40] <sflr> magespawn, is there lagoons or dams? I see lots of water towards the ocean
[16:40] <smile> Kilos: how are you? :)à
[16:40] <magespawn> If you search G&C Net, Hluhluwe, it should show my shop.
[16:40] <Kilos> good ty smile 
[16:40] <Kilos> and you?
[16:40] <magespawn> That would be Lake St Lucia and False Bay.
[16:42] <magespawn> Part of the Isimangaliso world heritage site.
[16:43] <sflr> i see the shop. big white house with trees, in middle of a big plot. 
[16:43] <magespawn> Do not quote me on the spelling of that. 
[16:43] <magespawn> Thats it sflr.
[16:43] <smile> Kilos: tired, but fine :)
[16:43] <Kilos> ah smile  cure for tired is sleep
[16:44] <sflr> hey smile
[16:44] <smile> sflr: hi :)
[16:44] <smile> Kilos: yes I know :p but no time to sleep :p
[16:44] <Kilos> eish
[16:45] <magespawn> You know if you do not sleep you lose your memory and go mad.
[16:45] <smile> magespawn: yes. :p
[16:45] <smile> But I will sleep. But not now
[16:45] <sflr> smile is taking the Limitless tablets ;)
[16:45] <smile> :o
[16:46] <smile> in 4 hours i'll sleep :)
[16:46] <Kilos> whew
[16:46] <magespawn> Anybody know the score?
[16:46] <Banlam> 36027 to us
[16:46] <Kilos> whew
[16:46] <Banlam> 36-27 to us
[16:47] <magespawn> Ty Banlam.
[16:47] <Banlam> np
[16:48] <sflr> I didnt expect anything less 
[16:48] <magespawn> Why in 4 hours smile?
[16:49] <sflr> watching 24 hours Le Mans race?  lol
[16:49] <smile> magespawn: because then it's 21:50 here :)
[16:49] <Kilos> hehe i love motor racing
[16:49] <Banlam> le mans is gonna be on for a lot longer than another 4 hours :P
[16:49] <sflr> Kilos, Le Mans is on now
[16:50] <Kilos> if you have dstv ya
[16:50] <Banlam> 36-27 final score
[16:50] <sflr> smile, where are you?
[16:50] <magespawn> Somewhere in our time zone.
[16:51] <Kilos> europe methinks
[16:51] <sflr> magespawn, he said he sleeps in 4 hours time @ 10pm. in our time zone in 4 hours time will be 11pm. that's why I was wondering. hehe
[16:51] <smile> sflr: GMT +1 (but in summer GMT +2)
[16:51] <smile> :)
[16:51] <sflr> ok. Northern hemi
[16:52] <Banlam> whose summer? :P
[16:53] <magespawn> We are GMT +2 all the time.
[16:53] <magespawn> Aren't we?
[16:53] <Kilos> lol yeah we dont daylight save
[16:54] <magespawn> In SA we don't save much.
[16:54] <smile> magespawn: ^^
[16:54] <Kilos> aus is 8 hours ahead in theiur summer and 9 in winter
[16:54] <Kilos> lol @ magespawn 
[16:54] <magespawn> Brb going to bath fish2.
[16:54] <Kilos> k
[16:57] <smile> :DD
[16:57] <smile> The preload attribute is supported in all major browsers, except Internet Explorer and Opera. :o
[17:00] <Kilos> all good sflr ?
[17:04] <magespawn> Back.
[17:14] <smile> brb. :)
[17:14] <magespawn> I did not think IE was A major browser
[17:32] <magespawn> http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/m/news/index.cfm?release=2012-177 from Jonathan Carter in G+
[17:32] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[17:32] <smile> Kilos: hiiiii :DD
[17:33] <Kilos> hiiiii smile <3
[17:34] <smile> :DD
[17:34] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[17:35] <Kilos> lol dunno what that is here but on aim its a heart
[17:35] <psydroid> hoi smile
[17:35] <psydroid> I am just awake now
[17:35] <psydroid> hello magespawn
[17:36] <magespawn> Hey psydroid
[17:37] <smile> psydroid: :o :o
[17:37] <smile> Kilos: lol :p
[17:38] <Kilos> too much work to try remember what all the text smiles are
[17:38] <psydroid> smile, I had a headache so I decided to lie down for a few hours, I'm feeling better now
[17:38] <Kilos> good psydroid headaches suck
[17:39] <smile> psydroid: good. :)
[17:39] <smile> Kilos: :o is surprised, :p is the normal with the tongue. and :) is a happy one. :D is even happier and :DD the happiest :)
[17:39] <psydroid> yeah
[17:40] <Kilos> lol ya thats fine if you can remember them
[17:40] <Kilos> where does the <3 come from
[17:41] <Kilos> my daughter uses it all the time
[17:48] <miles_> grrr
[17:50] <magespawn> http://christianoss.org/blog/2012/06/15/understanding-open-source-movement  recommended by one of our community, written by another.
[17:51] <smile> grr :p
[17:51] <magespawn> From google plus
[17:52] <miles_> grrr
[17:53] <smile> grr. :p
[17:53] <miles_> sukkeling to make Konversation use my nick
[17:53] <miles_> :|
[17:55] <Kilos> whew
[17:55] <Kilos> betcha it forgets again
[17:55] <Kilos> grrr
[17:57] <Kilos> superfly: advice please. will kubuntu 12.04 not want to see a better graphics card?
[17:57] <Kilos> like unity
[18:02] <psydroid> it will, Kilos
[18:02] <psydroid> something is definitely not ok in 12.04
[18:02] <Kilos> will it also want a better graphics card?
[18:02] <psydroid> it feels slower than the previous 
[18:03] <psydroid> yes, I think so
[18:03] <psydroid> the previous LTS release
[18:03] <Kilos> eish i thought is was just gnome3 and unity that did that
[18:03] <psydroid> I think it's something with xorg
[18:03] <psydroid> no, I think the problem lies deeper
[18:04] <Kilos> grrr
[18:04] <psydroid> I'm not completely sure, but this is what I have noticed on a few systems where kubuntu is slow while ubuntu 10.04 flies
[18:05] <psydroid> kubuntu 12.04, that is
[18:05] <Kilos> maybe then i will try get kubuntu11.10
[18:05] <psydroid> but it's funny that 12.04 prereleases and even 11.10 were faster
[18:05] <psydroid> I had stability problems with 11.1/
[18:06] <psydroid> 11.10*
[18:06] <Kilos> lol murphy says if you can struggle you will
[18:07] <psydroid> and the 12.10 daily I recently installed on a machine seemed to be broken too so I couldn't update
[18:07] <Kilos> ouch
[18:08] <psydroid> so I keep waiting for a kubuntu release that is actually usable, until that time ubuntu 10.04.4 serves me well
[18:08] <Kilos> my son is using 11.04 upgraded online to 11.10 and is happy with it
[18:09] <Kilos> kubuntu that is
[18:09] <Kilos> maybe each pc has its own prefs
[18:10] <magespawn> My laptop is on 10.04 ubuntu, and two pc in the shop are on 11.10 ubuntu and kubuntu, one each. No problems with any so far.
[18:11] <Kilos> my pc loves 10.10. worked better and faster than 10.04
[18:11] <Kilos> maverick rocks but no more security updates
[18:11] <Kilos> sigh
[18:12] <psydroid> yes, neither the oldest nor the newest is the best for each machine
[18:12] <psydroid> that's why I have several releases installed at the same time
[18:13] <Kilos> 10.04 just needed tweeking to make it use pidgin mxit and a few other things which were working right off in maverick
[18:13] <Kilos> hi bmg505
[18:13] <bmg505> lo
[18:13] <bmg505> vity powa sucks
[18:13] <bmg505> *city
[18:13] <Kilos> meeting monday night hey
[18:14] <bmg505> what time?
[18:14] <Kilos> lol try being on a plot
[18:14] <Kilos> meet here at 19.30
[18:14] <bmg505> my brain has been frozen for at least a week now
[18:14] <bmg505> time for summer
[18:14] <Kilos> yeah join the family
[18:15] <Kilos> freezing in the tvl
[18:15] <bmg505> I enjoy complaining about rain and heat much more than complaining about this fridge
[18:15] <Kilos> i tried singing the mtn song a few times. it didnt help
[18:15] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[18:16] <bmg505> probably because you do not have enough airtime :)
[18:16] <Kilos> dont complain about rain. rain keeps everything growing
[18:16] <Kilos> hehe
[18:17] <Kilos> no rain no food for sheep and other grass eaters
[18:20] <Kilos> haha
[18:21] <Kilos> excuse me if i mess around some guys, im trying to get Konversation configured without much luck
[18:33] <smile> bye :)
[18:33] <Kilos> sleep tight smile
[18:33] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:33] <superfly> Kilos: no, KDE has a "2D" mode
[18:34] <Kilos> yay superflyso i can use it then
[18:34] <superfly> yup
[18:34] <Kilos> ty
[18:35] <magespawn> Superfly I have foundnthe hardware requirements are quite low compared to the other os choices
[18:41] <Kilos> sflr: you still here?
[18:42] <Kilos> hmmm maybe the 24 hour was too long and he fell off his stool
[18:45] <Kilos-> hmm
[18:58] <Kilos> night guys. sleep tight
[18:58] <Kilos> Maaz, night
[18:58] <Maaz> Kilos: Bye
[19:03] <magespawn> Night all.