[00:00] <sabayonuser_> hey people i have dual core cpu nvidia 7300 gt 2gb ram suggest me a distro
[00:00] <andrewaclt> ubuntu
[00:00] <escott> sabayonuser_, ubuntu
[00:00] <sabayonuser_> will it tun fine with these specs
[00:00] <andrewaclt> Pretty sure it runs on my coffee maker
[00:01] <escott> sabayonuser_, do you expect us to say "fedora"?
[00:01] <k1l> sabayonuser_: since you are in a ubuntu channel: try ubuntu
[00:01] <sabayonuser_> should i stick with unity or go for gnome-shell
[00:02] <sabayonuser_> there is kubuntu lubuntu which is the best
[00:02] <escott> !poll | sabayonuser_
[00:02] <stafford> I am looking for Ubuntu system hardening guide
[00:02] <fizyplankton> is it possible to change a filesystem from ext2 to ext3 without losing all the data?
[00:02] <Myrtti> fizyplankton: no.
[00:02] <sabayonuser_> yaa
[00:03] <escott> fizyplankton, yes
[00:03] <sabayonuser_> first copy ur data to other hard drive then format it :D
[00:03] <escott> fizyplankton, use etunefs to enable whatever features you want
[00:03] <k1l> fizyplankton: better have a backup
[00:04] <sabayonuser_> why do ubuntu use purple color
[00:04] <fizyplankton> sabayonuser_: escott Kil im upgrading hdds from 1tb to 2tb. g4l for some reason made it an ext2 partition. i have ample space to make backups
[00:04] <k1l> sabayonuser_: why not?
[00:04] <sabayonuser_> default ubuntu is ugly
[00:05] <Myrtti> sabayonuser_: more incentive to make it look like yours then
[00:05] <linxeh> ugliness is subjective
[00:05] <k1l> sabayonuser_: then use another wallpaper
[00:05] <sabayonuser_> orange icons should be replaced by faenza as default
[00:05] <linxeh> why ?
[00:05] <escott> !ot | sabayonuser_
[00:05] <Myrtti> sabayonuser_: thanks for your opinion, however misplaced it is. Did you have a Ubuntu support question or problem?
[00:06] <linxeh> he was just sent here from offtopic :)
[00:06] <sabayonuser_> yea
[00:06] <fizyplankton> sdd7 is the partition i am trying to change from ext2 to ext3. if i copy sdd7 to sdd8, then wipe sdd7 to ext3, then copy the files manually back over, will it work (sdd7 is my main boot partition)
[00:06] <sabayonuser_> hey people does females have any interest in ubuntu
[00:06] <escott> fizyplankton, unneccessary. just enable journaling
[00:06] <fizyplankton> escott: how?
[00:06] <linxeh> sabayonuser_: offtopic
[00:06] <escott> fizyplankton, http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/ext2toext3.htm
[00:07] <Myrtti> sabayonuser_: #ubuntu-offtopic, please.
[00:07] <escott> fizyplankton, there really isn't any such thing as ext2 vs ext3 vs ext4. there is just "ext" with different features enabled.
[00:09] <fizyplankton> escott: but would the manual copy thing still work? will sdd7 still boot if i do that?
[00:10] <escott> fizyplankton, depends on iff the uuid changes
[00:10] <trentg> I issued ufw deny from <ip> but that ip is still attempting logins
[00:10] <inopinatus> I am seeing "mountall: Skipping mounting /home since Plymouth is not available" intermittently with 12.04 LTS on Linode. Accompanied by a plymouth SEGV. Is anyone else experiencing same / has solved the issue?
[00:10] <escott> fizyplankton, just backup your files to sdd8, then use tune2fs to enable the journal, fsck it and delete your backups
[00:11] <fizyplankton> escott: how wasy would it be to change the uuid from say a live boot cds
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> inopinatus: is the partition healthy?
[00:11] <inopinatus> ActionParsnip: yes, fsck -f passes
[00:11] <inopinatus> sorry e2fsck
[00:12] <Guest47769> wwwoooowww
[00:12] <Guest47769> hi all
[00:12] <Jordan_U> escott: fizyplankton: UUIDs only change if you explicitly change them, or create a new filesystem (wiping out the old one) using mkfs. So you shouldn't have to worry about the UUID changing (though having two partitions containing filesystems with the same UUID could confuse many important tools).
[00:12] <inopinatus> it seems to be an intermittent race condition between mountall and plymouth crashing
[00:12] <fizyplankton> escott: escott not sure if this question makes any sense, but will tune2fs actually convert it, or do some funky trick to make it look like an ext3 without actually making it an ext3
[00:12] <escott> fizyplankton, i dont know why you would do this unnecessary step. you could also move the data from sdd7 to sdd8, run a marathon, make the ext3, do 100 pushups, copy the data back, cure cancer...
[00:12] <escott> fizyplankton, ext3=ext2+journaling
[00:12] <fire_x> i have a problem i installed manually the firefox and now the icon in the application bar doesnt open
[00:13] <fire_x> where is the location of this icon?
[00:13] <fizyplankton> fire_x: does the one in the menus still work?
[00:13] <fire_x> failed to execute child process
[00:13] <escott> fizyplankton, where that = is really a :~= we define ext3 "as" ext2+journaling, with a bit of fuzziness there may be some other normal ext3 features in addition to journaling, but check wikipedia
[00:13] <fire_x> when i opened it
[00:13] <Jordan_U> escott: Ahh, fizyplankton was actually considering using mkfs, so your comment was apropos, sorry about that.
[00:13] <fire_x> but i can open the firefox
[00:13] <fire_x> from
[00:13] <fire_x> usr/bin
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: probably in the folder with the binary you are running
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: why not use a PPA or the one in the Ubuntu repos
yep
[00:14] <fire_x> i just follow this:http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/download-and-install-firefox-manually-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: what version of firefox have you manually installed?
i run the commands from terminal
13.0.1
the last
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/firefox-13-alpha-2-appears-in-the-wild   use that
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: no messing with files
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: ALWAYS ALWAAYS try and find a PPA, it will make the apps gel with your OS
 remember that but now can i find where my old version and the new version of firefox is?
and what's wrong with the icon on application menu>
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: the desktop file you have in /usr/share/applications   doesn't have the icon refereced right, more than likely
[00:18] <fire_x> w8
[00:18] <Borillion> ctrl fn super alt none work
[00:18] <Borillion> how can I re-detect my keyboard?
[00:18] <fire_x> Details: Failed to execute child process "firefox" (Permission denied
[00:19] <nydel> i made a useful script for everyone! do this: "curl http://meerkat.cc/.myip.shtml"
[00:19] <nydel> then write it into a script. 3 lines if you like.
[00:19] <nydel> (returns external ip from command line)
i can see the icon
[00:20] <Kevin__H> Hi there, I am trying to install ubuntu server 12.04, I've tried installing GUI interfaces, but I haven't had any luck, any suggestions?  I've tried, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but it returns unable to locate package ubuntu-desktop, I've also done updates.  Also, when I use tasksel, and try to install features such as Basic Ubuntu Server and Samba file server, I get "aptitude failed"
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: is the file marked executable to all?
[00:21] <fire_x> no and it has the priveleges of a root
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: you may be able to see the icon but if the desktop file isn't pointed to it, it wn't be used
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: why don't you just make your life easier and use the PPA?...
[00:21] <Anom01y> hi, running Ubuntu 64 bit here, and I am having troubles with Wine,
[00:21] <fire_x> for sure another time but i just wanna figure this out
[00:22] <Anom01y> I keep getting an error "lock isn't locked"
[00:22] <chowder> Anom01y: getting any error messages?
[00:22] <Anom01y> yes
[00:22] <Anom01y> its a problem with Ubuntu 12.04 apparently
[00:22] <chowder> Anom01y: I don't use wine all that much so I'm afraid I can't really say
[00:22] <Anom01y> I've removed my .wine directory, and tried to run winecfg, but I still get lock isn't locked
[00:23] <chowder> Anom01y: have you made a forum post about it?
[00:23] <Jordan_U> Kevin__H: Can you pastebin the exact output of "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"? Also, why do you want a full Ubuntu Desktop on your server?
[00:24] <Anom01y> chowder, no, but its there already thought I might ask here
[00:24] <Kevin__H> I'm just trying to get a GUI
[00:24] <Kevin__H> so I don't have to use command line (for now)
[00:24] <chowder> Kevin__H: yeah but the commandline reveals information that people here can use to help you
[00:24] <csmith73> command line is more fun :)
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: check the file in /usr/share/applications   check the Icon=  line is pointing absolutely to the icon, staerting from '/'
[00:25] <fire_x> ActionParsnip:so what i believe is that when the new version installed then the previous one changes places but the icon assigned to the previous didnt change
[00:25]  * chowder loves using the commandline
[00:25] <Kevin__H> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1043233/
[00:25] <chowder> Anom01y: you should post in that thread so that the devs see that many people are having this issue
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Anom01y: have you asked in #winehq too
[00:25] <csmith73> chowder : how do I make it appear that I love something
[00:25] <fire_x> ActionParsnip:firefox %u
[00:25] <chowder> csmith73: echo love
[00:25] <fire_x> ActionParsnip:the command
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: did you symlink the new firefox binary into /usr/bin ?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: you may need to make a NEW launcher for the new version
[00:26] <csmith73> echo loves to press tab tab in terminal and study
[00:26] <fire_x> sudo ln -s /opt/firefox12/firefox /usr/bin/firefox
[00:26] <fire_x> with this command
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: I suggest you use a different file name for the link (unles you don't have the packaged version of firefox installed then it's ok)
[00:27] <fire_x> i can open the new firefox from a different location
[00:27] <fire_x> i just want to make a link
[00:27] <csmith73> can someone help with the compilation of OpenMW, I am having an issue with the dependencies being met
[00:27] <fire_x> to applications bar
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: sudo ln -s /opt/firefox12/firefox /usr/bin/firefox-13
[00:28] <|Long|> hi, I need some help with raid 5 anyone plz msg me thanks, will rewards for your time
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: you do realize you are doing this THE hardest way possible
[00:28] <fire_x> its ok
[00:28] <fire_x> i realize this
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: then run:  sudo cp /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop  sudo cp /usr/share/applications/firefox-13.desktop
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: then run:   gksudo gedit  sudo cp /usr/share/applications/firefox-13.desktop
[00:29] <fire_x> wait
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: and CHANGE the Exec= line to the file in /opt  and change the other lines, like Name= and so forth, so that it says Firefox13 and so forth, also find the Icon= line and make it point to the icon in /opt
[00:29] <fire_x> why firefox-13
[00:30] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: You should probably add some quotes or ';'s or '&&'s to be clear where one command starts and the other ends.
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: because then it's DIFFERENT to the default one and won't get messed with by the packaged version which is alreadyinstalled
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: can you see why packages are good now? Avoids all this messing around..
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: true
[00:30] <fire_x> wia
[00:30] <fire_x> wait iam confused right now
 Anom01y: have you asked in #winehq too
[00:31] <fire_x> :P
[00:31] <Anom01y> yes
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: about what?
[00:31] <fire_x> about the firefox-13
[00:31] <fire_x> what the firefox-13 is
[00:31] <fire_x> we create this or make a kind of link
[00:31] <fire_x> with firefox-1
[00:31] <fire_x> firefox-13
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: you are linking it to firefox-13 as the existing /usr/bin/firefox is part of a package and the file will be overwritten when an update to the firefox package happens
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: so we use a diffreent name
[00:32] <fire_x> the thing is
[00:32] <fire_x> the previous one was
[00:32] <fire_x> 13
[00:32] <fire_x> and i ve updated to 13.01
[00:32] <fire_x> :P
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: just use the PPA, you are gaining nothing by doing it this way and when the PPA gets updated, so will your system
[00:32] <inopinatus> Ok, fixed, I removed --attach-to-session in /etc/init/plymouth.conf and now it boots normally.
[00:33] <inopinatus> as described at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/594839
[00:33] <fire_x> where can i find the ppa thing
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: you can use any link name you want, just don't link to /usr/bin/firefox or the package system will break it when the firefox package gets updated
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: I gave you the link AND even the command to run eaarlier....
[00:33] <fire_x> ok
[00:34] <fire_x> but where did you find it
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: I use the internet and searched
[00:34] <fire_x> if i run this now will mess up the things?
[00:34] <fire_x> or i must remove the previous first?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=firefox+13+ppa&kp=1
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: no, you can keep the standing one and it will simply be upgraded
[00:35] <fire_x> upgraded?
[00:35] <fire_x> now i have 13.01
[00:35] <fire_x> the link you gave me is 13
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: the aurora ppa is actually version 15
[00:37] <fire_x> yeah but i dont have the aurora
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: all you need to do is make a symlink into /usr/bin for the binary you have, then make a new .desktop file by copying the current firefox.desktop file and changingh the lines
[00:37] <riz0n> I am in the process of migrating from an old Ubuntu server to a new server. What is the easiest way to move MySQL databases from the old server to the new one?
[00:38] <fire_x> ok
[00:38] <fire_x> copy that
[00:38] <fire_x> can i get the ppa for firefox 13.01
[00:39] <rypervenche> SNS syndrome :(
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: not sure there is one (can't find one yet). I have one for 14
[00:40] <nshjfcji> 
[00:40] <fire_x> 14?
[00:40] <fire_x> wait the last version for firefox is 13.01
[00:41] <exutux> riz0n: mysqldump --all-database > bkdb.sql -u root -p
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: those are the beta version
[00:41] <OerHeks> fire_x, FF13 is in the repo's now.
[00:41] <exutux> riz0n: and restore in nwe server with mysql < bkdb.sql -u root -p
[00:42] <fire_x> wait firefox and firefox aurora is a different thing right?
[00:42] <fire_x> how can you describe the differences between
[00:43] <fire_x> the first and the second one
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: they are codenames for the beta releases and so forth as I understand it (I've not used firefox in years now)
[00:43] <exutux> riz0n: you don't need to recreate databases and tables in new server before restore backup, because --all-database option creates the sql queries ( script ) automatically
[00:44] <fire_x> codenames?
[00:44] <fire_x> there are more except aurora?
[00:44] <exutux> aurora is a beatiful gurl ( sorry for OT ) :D
[00:44] <fire_x> OT?
[00:44] <fire_x> what is OT
[00:45] <exutux> off topic
[00:45] <OerHeks> On Topic
[00:45] <fire_x> wait
[00:45] <fire_x> off or on
[00:45] <fire_x> decide
[00:45] <fire_x> ahaha
[00:45] <OerHeks> !ot
[00:45] <FloodBot1> fire_x: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:46] <Pirat> hi
[00:46] <fire_x> lol
[00:47] <Pirat> is there any way to make ubuntu 12.04 work "normally" in fallback mode? like 10.04 did
[00:47] <fire_x> i reassign the key and i dont use the enter i use del for confirm my words
[00:47] <Pirat> seriously mark suttleworth ought to be SHOT in the head
[00:47] <fire_x> :P
[00:47] <escott> !notunity | Pirat
[00:47] <Pirat> for ruining my experience with ubuntu
[00:47] <Pirat> bla bla
[00:47] <Pirat> read what I wrote
[00:47] <nathan_> Can anyone help me with setting up dual monitors, I can
[00:47] <Pirat> I am in fallback mode
[00:48] <Pirat> but its not like 10.04 at all
[00:48] <nathan_> 't get the tool to work
[00:48] <Pirat> nautilus is fucked up
[00:48] <Pirat> flash videos don't play in fullscreen
[00:48] <Pirat> tab scrolling doesn't work anymore
[00:48] <Daekdroom> !language | Pirat
[00:48] <Pirat> sound is fucked up (known from previous ubuntu version)
[00:48] <escott> Pirat, also !enter and !attitude
[00:48] <Pirat> but seems like canonical does not care a single bit about their users
[00:48] <fire_x> !e
[00:49] <exutux> Pirat: don't use gnome, choose another DE or don't use Ubuntu
[00:49] <Pirat> nowadays there are more like "accept it or GTFO"
[00:49] <Pirat> aren't they? ;)
[00:49] <Pirat> exutux... you just acknowledged what I said
[00:49] <Pirat> "accept it or GTFO"
[00:49] <Pirat> :)
[00:49] <nathan_> I have my xorg.conf, xorg.0.log and lspci here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1042878/
[00:49] <Daekdroom> What's the purpose of saying what you're saying?
[00:50] <Pirat> accept fucked up scrollbars or GTFO
[00:50] <Daekdroom> You're not bothering to explain what's happening to Nautilus, or describe your sound issues.
[00:50] <exutux> Pirat: my answer was for all that you said at all
[00:50] <Pirat> accept a trimmed desktop or GTFO
[00:50] <Daekdroom> And, really, watch your language.
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> trimmed?
[00:52] <marcavis> Hello. I can't seem to be able to start X from an user account, but I'm able to in other. Is there some file other than xorg.conf that may be problematic?
[00:52] <escott> nathan_, a few things... (a) why do you have an xorg.conf and how did you make it (b) module fglrx was not found, how did you install it
[00:53] <marcavis> (this is after I seem to have broken my settings after the latest nvidia driver + new kernel update
[00:53] <Jordan_U> marcavis: The problem is likely something going wrong with starting the window manager / shell rather than really a problem "starting X" (once you've gotten to the login screen at least one X session has already started).
[00:55] <nathan_> escott, I made (hand wrote based on a gentoo how to) the xorg because I couldn't get the "System>Preferences>Monitors" to see my second monitor. I didn't install fglrx but I'm not sure I need it either. putting in ati seems to no give me that error but still no dual monitors
[00:55] <marcavis> Jordan_U, oh, hi there :) - Hmm, you're right, I can get to the usual login screen... Where's my window manager configuration, then, inside ~ ?
[00:56] <UbuntuNoob> can someone help me i cannot install samba from any source it says unmet dependencies system-config-samba
[00:56] <UbuntuNoob> ?any idea whats wrong?
[00:56] <marcavis> I'm aware that can vary, I guess. Hmm, should be... lightdm? I'm never too sure what's what in these layers of gui things
[00:57] <escott> nathan_, not sure what to say. it doesn't look like a valid xorg.conf. nothing identifies the devices. you say "leftCard" and "rightCard" but that doesn't mean anything without reference to a PCI bus id
[00:57] <fire_x> can i get the last version of aurora via ppa?
[00:58] <nathan_> escott any ideas on where I should go from here? most of the ubuntu documentation says xorg.conf is the old way and not to do it but I don't see any other way
[00:59] <UbuntuNoob> can some help me with samba?
[00:59] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: how are you installing samba?
[00:59] <escott> nathan_, i would start by installing fglrx if you want an fglrx, then i would focus on getting one card to work before trying to add the second one in
[01:00] <UbuntuNoob> it wont let me install samba
[01:00] <UbuntuNoob> keeps saying
[01:00] <UbuntuNoob> samba: Depends: samba-common (= 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2.1) but 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2.1 is to be installed
[01:00] <UbuntuNoob>        Depends: libwbclient0 (= 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2.1) but 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2.2 is to be installed
[01:00] <UbuntuNoob>        Depends: upstart-job but it is a virtual package
[01:00] <UbuntuNoob> ??? any ideas
[01:00] <violinappren> !paste | UbuntuNoob
[01:00] <UbuntuNoob> sorry
[01:00] <nathan_> escott, as it stands now I can get both to work just not at the same time. I can specify which to set a primary in bios and then that card is fine
[01:01] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: what's your ubuntu version and what's the command you're using?
[01:01] <UbuntuNoob> 12.04 and software center and i also tryed synaptic
[01:01] <fire_x> ActionParsnip:hey sorry for bothering again but i ve got a question.. can i get the last version of aurora(15.02) via ppa?
[01:01] <UbuntuNoob> not using a command
[01:02] <violinappren> did you add any repositories or PPAs?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: sure just add the arora ppa and install the package
[01:02] <UbuntuNoob> where do i get them and how do i add them
[01:02] <Jordan_U> marcavis: Yes, and you can also choose which session you want to use from the login screen (after selecting your user but before actually logging in). Try the Failsafe session.
[01:02] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: im asking IF you did ..
[01:03] <UbuntuNoob> no i didnt use a command just used the software center
[01:03] <marcavis> Jordan_U, hmm I guess I should be using irssi as I try things out with sessions. Will do that soon...
[01:03] <fire_x> ActionParsnip:i ve done it but i have 13.01 version
[01:04] <UbuntuNoob> any ideas vio?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> fire_x: did you run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:04] <fire_x> yep
[01:04] <UbuntuNoob> been trying for 2 hours to get it working with no avail
[01:06] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: open a terminal and type this command: sudo apt-get install samba
[01:06] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: and then pastebin the error message
[01:06] <rocode> I tried installing a package that failed due to a md5 failure on a download. I cannot remove the package, or install anything else, as apt keeps trying to install a package that will keep failing. http://pastebin.com/00jN86Eh Can anyone help me? I have tried to remove, purge, everything I could think of.
[01:07] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: also pastebin the output of : apt-cache policy samba
[01:07] <nathan_> escott, I'm going to reset my xorg.conf to the original and then try the 8.04 instructions from here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Multihead. Will let you know how it goes.
[01:07] <UbuntuNoob> whats pastebin?
[01:07] <rocode> UbuntuNoob, http://pastebin.com
[01:07] <violinappren> !paste  | UbuntuNoob
[01:08] <Kevin__H> any fixes for "Unable to locate package ... " when using sudo apt-get install xyz
[01:08] <UbuntuNoob> !paste Reading package lists... Done
[01:08] <UbuntuNoob> Building dependency tree
[01:08] <UbuntuNoob> Reading state information... Done
[01:08] <UbuntuNoob> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[01:08] <UbuntuNoob> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[01:08] <UbuntuNoob> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[01:08] <FloodBot1> UbuntuNoob: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:09] <fire_x> ActionParsnip:i run sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:09] <rocode> UbuntuNoob, That's not it. You need to go to http://pastebin.com, copy your stuff into there, then hit submit. Copy the URL and paste the URL here.
[01:09] <UbuntuNoob> o lol
[01:09] <UbuntuNoob> oops
[01:10] <rocode> I tried installing a package that failed due to a checksum failure on a download. I cannot remove the package, or install anything else, as apt keeps trying to install a package that will keep failing. http://pastebin.com/00jN86Eh Can anyone help me? I have tried to remove, purge, everything I could think of.
[01:11] <UbuntuNoob> http://pastebin.com/VzZd83Nt
[01:11] <UbuntuNoob> that right?
[01:11] <UbuntuNoob> vio that help?
[01:12] <sixdahs_> Anyone have trouble with 12.04 connecting to networks?  first it was wifi, and now eth0.  "Activation of network connection failed"
[01:12] <pikkachu> how to type a location in precise nautilus?
[01:12] <rocode> UbuntuNoob: Now structure your help request in a way similar to mine, all on one line. It will get you noticed faster.
[01:13] <sixdahs_> pikkachu: ctrl+L
[01:13] <quixotedon> pikkachu: you want to go to address bar? is that what i understand?
[01:13] <quixotedon> sixdahs_: some have i think
[01:13] <quixotedon> sixdahs_: i'm only using mobile broadband
[01:14] <sixdahs_> yeah, it's killing me. getting ready to go back to fedora
[01:14] <violinappren> rocode: crude.. but works.. sudo rm  /var/lib/dpkg/info/oracle-java7-installer*
[01:14] <UbuntuNoob> AnyoneWhoCanHelp: I cannot install samba it keeps giving me error msgs can someone help me http://pastebin.com/VzZd83Nt
[01:14] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy samba
[01:15] <rocode> violinappren, that solved the issue, thank you!
[01:15] <violinappren> rocode: you're welcome
[01:17] <UbuntuNoob> Vio: http://pastebin.com/f7pR3LrS
[01:18] <sixdahs_> quixotedon:  makes it tricky to get updates too if I can't get network connectivity..lol
[01:18] <quixotedon> sixdahs_: so wifi doesn't connect at all?
[01:19] <sixdahs_> it associates with the ap
[01:19] <sixdahs_> doesnt' get an IP
[01:19] <sixdahs_> eth0 doens't work either
[01:19] <sixdahs_> "activation of network connection failed"
[01:19] <UbuntuNoob> Violinappren: Any ideas?
[01:20] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: apt-cache policy libwbclient0
[01:21] <Kevin__H> This is what my source.list file looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1043274/ aren't there supposed to be more lines?  I figure this is why I am having problems using apt-get
[01:21] <UbuntuNoob> Violinappren: http://pastebin.com/SLbr41X6
[01:22] <wylde_> Kevin__H:  I'd have to agree with that.
[01:22] <agc93> Kevin__H: Yes, that should have more in there
[01:22] <Kevin__H> is there something I can do to fix that?
[01:22] <Kevin__H> sudo apt-get update does nothing
[01:22] <agc93> Try following this instruction: http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/01/restore-your-sources-list-to-defaults.html
[01:23] <pikkachu> sixdahs_: thanks!!!
[01:23] <sixdahs_> :) no prob
[01:23] <wylde_> Kevin__H: there's this tool online. I'll see if I can dig up a default sources.list
[01:23] <agc93> Kevin__H: That probably won't give you all the localisations and mirros, but will give you all the standard repos then run sudo apt-get update
[01:23] <wylde_> Kevin__H: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[01:23] <nydel> is there a built-in command in ubuntu/linux to get external ip?
[01:23] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: do: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update
[01:23] <nydel> from command line
[01:24] <nathan_> When looking at lspci and I see "01:00.0 VGA comp....." what is the busid that I would put in xorg.conf the ubuntu wiki shows it should look like this " BusID           "PCI:1:0:0""
[01:24] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: then try again: sudo apt-get install samba
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> nydel: IP=`wget -q -O - http://ip.keithscode.com`; echo $IP
[01:25] <nydel> ActionParsnip: anything that doesn't depend on wget or curl?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> nydel: wget is in the default install...
[01:25] <nydel> ActionParsnip: right but i could just do this: curl http://meerkat.cc/.myip.shtml
[01:26] <nydel> if i'm going to do it that way. can't i just get the ip without bouncing around
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> nydel: as far as I've seen, no
[01:26] <Kevin__H> looked like it worked guys, sudo apt-get update is working -- will that overwrite my sources.list file with an updated one ? etc?
[01:27] <wylde_> nydel: maybe over upnp if your router supports it.Just a thought.
[01:27] <nydel> ActionParsnip: oh what if i run the shtml on my computer
[01:27] <agc93> Kevin__H: yes it will
[01:27] <UbuntuNoob> Vio
[01:27] <UbuntuNoob> Vio: http://pastebin.com/aAHQcS7h
[01:27] <agc93> but your old sources.list was practically useless, so thats alright
[01:27] <UbuntuNoob> still dont work
[01:27] <nydel> wylde_: i'm not sure how i'd do that, point me in the right direction?
[01:28] <wylde_> nydel: all I know is I was playing with some upnp tool from the repos and an old router killing time once. I'll see if I can find the package
[01:28] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: open software center then edit > software sources
[01:28] <Pailot> hay! how i can go to russian chat?
[01:28] <nydel> wylde_: thank you!
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> !ru
[01:28] <Pailot> !ru
[01:29] <Pailot> #ubuntu-ru
[01:29] <violinappren> then in "other" tab, untick the repository for plexapp
[01:29] <violinappren> Pailot: /join #ubuntu-ru
[01:29] <UbuntuNoob> now what
[01:30] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: close it and try installing samba
[01:30] <wylde_> nydel: upnp-router-control was the package, I was able to use it to configure an old tp-link tl-r460 wired router. You might be able to pick something out of the source.
[01:30] <wylde_> nydel: of course, IF your router supports upnp
[01:31] <UbuntuNoob> ok i opened the software center how do i edit sources and what do i change
[01:31] <FDForever> Does anyone happen to know which command it's to launch the ati configuration application
[01:31] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: open "other" tab.. take a screenshot
[01:31] <agc93> FDForever: the command line version is aticonfig
[01:31] <violinappren> !screenshot | UbuntuNoob
[01:31] <FDForever> agc93, the ui version
[01:32] <nydel> wylde: i think i can work with this, you're the first person to give me something useful that doesn't involve wget or curl etc
[01:32] <nydel> wylde_: thanks
[01:32] <wylde_> nydel: np :) See idle playing about can be useful! lol
[01:32] <FDForever> agc93, nvm found it. amdccle
[01:32] <agc93> FDForever: amdcccle
[01:33] <FDForever> whoops forgot a c heh. For some reason launching it with kde and selecting the administrative option causes it to crash instead of loading heh
[01:34] <UbuntuNoob> Violin: http://imagebin.org/216595
[01:35] <UbuntuNoob> hope that helps
[01:36] <FDForever> agc93, Any idea why my charges are not actually saved when pressing apply? It just boots back into a cloned display.
[01:36] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: select the the entries that has "plexapp" and click remove
[01:37] <UbuntuNoob> ok done
[01:37] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: close it, wait for the reload to finish and try installing samba
[01:38] <UbuntuNoob> dont seem to be reloading
[01:39] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: in command line: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install samba
[01:39] <UbuntuNoob> k brb
[01:40] <UbuntuNoob> it went through
[01:41] <kandle> anyone know any good channels specifically for chat?
[01:41] <UbuntuNoob> blah http://pastebin.com/V4JimzGf
[01:41] <dax> kandle: #ubuntu-offtopic, #defocus
[01:41] <kandle> dax: thanks
[01:42] <Relondo> How do I install a .sh file?
[01:42] <marcavis> Jordan_U: there was no 'failsafe' session, just 'recovery console' - which didn't work, either, returning me to the graphical login prompt
[01:42] <phiberoptik> Hi
[01:42] <phiberoptik> Relondo> sh file.sh
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: mark it as executable then just run it, may need sudo
[01:43] <Relondo> Actionparsnip: I did, but nothing happened.
[01:43] <phiberoptik> sudo sh file.sh?
[01:43] <UbuntuNoob> Vio: isnt this weird..
[01:43] <Relondo> phiberoptik: What now?
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> Relondo: what is the filename and where is it located, case very sensitive
[01:44] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: no, you have a locally installed version of libwbclient0 that is hindering the installation
[01:45] <UbuntuNoob> anything i can do?
[01:45] <Relondo> actionparsnip: Well, when I set it as executable and then run it, a window pops up that says "Verifying file integrity", and then disappears, and nothing happens.
[01:45] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: PLEASE NOTE the packages it will be removing (paste them) before answering "yes":    sudo apt-get remove libwbclient0
[01:46] <marcavis> Relondo: better to run it from a terminal, then; that may give some helpful error message. Open a terminal, then type sh and the path to that file
[01:46] <phiberoptik> where is ubuntu french room?
[01:46] <dax> phiberoptik: #ubuntu-fr
[01:46] <phiberoptik> tanks dax :)
[01:47] <riz0n> what package needs to be installed to get Dovecot IMAP?
[01:47] <dax> de rien :)
[01:47] <riz0n> when I do sudo apt-get install dovecot, it says that it can't locate the package dovecot
[01:47] <Relondo> marcavis: Will do, thanks.
[01:47] <zamba> riz0n: dovecot-imap
[01:47] <zamba> riz0n: dovecot-imapd, rather
[01:47] <zamba> riz0n: just do aptitude search dovecot and you'll see for yourself
[01:48] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: or better: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libwbclient0
[01:48] <UbuntuNoob> so forget the last stuff
[01:48] <UbuntuNoob> i havent done it yet
[01:48] <UbuntuNoob> ?
[01:49] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: yes
[01:49] <zykotick9> riz0n: try checking "apt-cache search ^dovecot"
[01:50] <UbuntuNoob> Vio: never in my life man ..blah http://pastebin.com/3jMStu3X
[01:50] <Relondo> marcavis: Terminal returned this: Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: 118e3a11ec539eccf587de53393ab103 is different from 1a62055501daf9ed15769f24b73177b4
[01:51] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: what packages it says it will remove if you do: sudo apt-get remove libwbclient0
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: can you use regex in apt-cache?
[01:51] <riz0n> well I have dovecot installed, but when I try to login through Squirrelmail, I get connection to localhost refused
[01:52] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: well i can say that ^ works for sure, beyond that - you'd have to test ;)
[01:52] <violinappren> ActionParsnip: yes
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: could always run:  apt-cache search . | grep "^dove"
[01:52] <marcavis> Relondo: hmm to me that looks like there was an error in the download; does the file size seem smaller than it should be?
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> violinappren: wow, thats awesoem
[01:53] <Kristian_> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop, but its not connecting to the internet. What do?
[01:53] <Relondo> marcavis: It's how big it should be. But it is a 1.1 gig file, so I can't see beyond megs. Could be off by a little :/
[01:53] <UbuntuNoob> Vio: http://pastebin.com/Jp2UQHeK
[01:54] <UbuntuNoob> only one i wounder about is the desktop one
[01:54] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: no it's just an empty package, so go ahead and remove
[01:54] <marcavis> Relondo: ouch. Hmm if you look at the file properties (right click, properties), it should give the exact size in bytes...
[01:54] <UbuntuNoob> k
[01:54] <UbuntuNoob> you are the captain =)
[01:54] <Kristian_> Ive got an intel centrino wireless-n +wimax 6150 card in my laptop, if that helps. its an asus
[01:54] <UbuntuNoob> thanks btw
[01:55] <UbuntuNoob> for the help
[01:55] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: you can reinstall them after you're done with samba
[01:55] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: you're welcome
[01:55] <UbuntuNoob> its going and what did it take off
[01:55] <Relondo> marcavis: The website only shows up to megs, too :/
[01:55] <UbuntuNoob> just my html editor?
[01:56] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: just reinstall them after samba
[01:56] <Kristian_> >.>'
[01:56] <UbuntuNoob> k
[01:56] <|Long|> hi, I need some help with raid 5 anyone plz msg me thanks, will rewards for your time
[01:57] <UbuntuNoob> how do i reinstall them lol sorry man im a noob
[01:57] <Kristian_> I need some help with my wifi. its not working ;-;
[01:57] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: sudo apt-get install packageshere
[01:58] <marcavis> Relondo: hmm then I don't know; I'd try some googling to see if anyone else was complaining of a corrupted download, etc. bbl, will try fixing my gpu driver configuration
[01:58] <UbuntuNoob> ok it started samba how do i edit it?
[01:58] <Relondo> marcavis: Okay, thanks for the help.
[01:58] <simplew> in synpatic i see some buttons with chinese characters, how do i get rid of these chinese characters
[01:59] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: paste
[01:59] <UbuntuNoob> http://pastebin.com/MWs9h1DV
[02:00] <UbuntuNoob> i think samba is running
[02:00] <violinappren> !samba | UbuntuNoob
[02:01] <Kristian_> Can someone please help me?
[02:01] <UbuntuNoob> good deal man thanks
[02:01] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:01] <UbuntuNoob> i owe you a brew
[02:01] <violinappren> UbuntuNoob: you're welcome
[02:02] <Kevin__H> How do I enable remote desktop connection on ubuntu?  So that I can use other machines to remotely connect to it?  can I do it from command line?
[02:02] <Kristian_> no one? ;-; I really want to use Ubuntu, but i cant if it cant access the internet.
[02:02] <nathan_> I'm still very confused as to why I can't get dual monitors to work. I've put my most recent lspci, xorg.conf and log file here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1043304/
[02:03] <nathan_> The System>preferences>monitors doesn't work for me which is why i'm usring xorg.conf
[02:03] <digitalcake> needing some help with noexec flag on /tmp and trying to reinstall my nvidia drivers
[02:03] <shadykhan> easiest way to stream ubuntu
[02:04] <digitalcake> I have tried sudo mount /tmp -o remount with no luck
[02:04] <digitalcake> mount | fgrep noexec still shows tmp
[02:05] <Kristian_> Can someone pllleeeeeaaaaase help me with my wireless?
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> Kristian_: which wifi chip
[02:06] <Kristian_> intel centrino 6150
[02:07] <simplew> i cant get rid of the chinese characters, any help?
[02:07] <Kristian_> Action Parsnip: also, thanks
[02:07] <blank2> when ubuntu 12.10 coming out
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> blank2: look at the version number, and think
[02:07] <MichaelGl> 10/12
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> Kristian_: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[02:08] <dax> blank2: in October (month 10) of 2012
[02:08] <shadykhan> whats the best way to set up my desktop to stream on justin.tv?
[02:08] <Kristian_> actionparsnip: precise
[02:09] <agc93> Is anyone else on NVIDIA GPUs having regular segfaults in the Xorg server?
[02:09] <agc93> http://pastebin.com/dJuZP0fz is the syslog entries for it
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> Kristian_: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network     what is the driver=    bit for the wifi
[02:10] <escott> digitalcake, what would remounting do?
[02:11] <Kristian_> actionparsnip: iwlwifi
[02:11] <Kristian_> driver version 3.2.0-23 generic-pae
[02:12] <marcavis> Okay, good news is I got back (or, well, moved forward) to a working kernel + nvidia driver configuration, but I still can't log into my main user account; where is the log of my window manager stored? I'm not too sure which one I'm using (lightdm?) so I'd like help with that too
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> Kristian_: try:   echo "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf > /dev/null
[02:12] <agc93> marcavis: /var/log/syslog often has log entries for displays
[02:12] <intrader> Anyone, I find the performance of unity slow - in this case is the action of the unit menu bar. It takes several stabbs with the mouse to popup the menu.. Is there a way to make the left bar always showing?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> Kristian_: reboot to test
[02:13] <digitalcake> I thought it would remount with out the noexec
[02:14] <escott> digitalcake, why would it do that?
[02:14] <Kristian_> actionparsnip: it said tee: /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi/conf: No such file or directory
[02:14] <digitalcake> I dont know maybe you do
[02:14] <escott> digitalcake, mount -o remount /whatever won't change any mount options
[02:14] <agc93> intrader: do you have compiz config settings manager (CCSM) installed?
[02:15] <dax> intrader: There's an option for that in the Unity window in System Settings. I think it might be under Appearance in 12.04, I forget.
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> Kristian_: /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf   not   /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi/conf
[02:15] <digitalcake> ok so how do I removed the noexec flag from temp
[02:15] <Kevin__H> anyone know how to enable remote desktop for ubuntu?
[02:15] <escott> digitalcake, man mount | grep exec
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: vino is installed by default
[02:16] <Kevin__H> I have ssh working through putty
[02:16] <Kevin__H> but I can't get remote desktop working
[02:17] <Kristian_> actionparsnip: ah, right. did it, it went through. Restarting now
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: what is your intention once you get to the remote desktop?
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> Kristian_: you gotta be accurate with commands dude
[02:17] <digitalcake> well since I really dont know what I'm doing reading the manual real didnt help.
[02:17] <digitalcake> really*
[02:17] <agc93> intrader: if you're using 12.04 you can actually just set it from the Appearance Tab in System Settings
[02:17] <Kevin__H> uhh.. do stuff
[02:18] <Kevin__H> but it should work though right?
[02:18] <escott> digitalcake, im intentionally being obtuse, because you shouldnt be doing what you are doing. you should be using jockey-gtk
[02:18] <vadi2> How to install Oracle (not openjdk or icedtea) web plugin for chrome on 12.04?
[02:18] <Kevin__H> when I enter the IP address that I use for ssh into remote connection, it doesn't work
[02:18] <Kristian_> actionparsnip: I figured I messed that up. Uh, comp restarted, still no wifi.
[02:18] <digitalcake> well the fact is I made the mistake of running updates and now I cant install nvidia
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: depending on what you are doing on the box, remote desktop may not be needed, there may be a sleeker option
[02:19] <Kevin__H> please explain
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> Kristian_: ok then delete the file you made.
[02:19] <Kristian_> actionparsnip: brand new to Ubuntu. How do I do this?
[02:19] <digitalcake> for being a normal person who does not learn ever nook can cranny of ubuntu being able to install critical things such as the drivers for the video card could be a tone better
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> Kristian_: sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf
[02:20] <escott> digitalcake, like perhaps "jockey-gtk"?
[02:20] <Kristian_> actionparsnip: alright, done. now what?
[02:20] <crackerjackz> digitalcake: if you experiment with other flavors of linux in a VM it will help you better understand how linux works
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: stuff like what?
[02:21] <digitalcake> is jockey-gtk a package?
[02:21] <wylde_> digitalyes
[02:21] <digitalcake> apt-get returned nothing
[02:21] <Kevin__H> ActionParsnip: for example, I want to install a visual application that I want other machines to remotely connect to and use
[02:21] <bryce> i deleted the partition table off of the harddrive my /home folder was on and now am trying to recover some files. can anyone help?
[02:21] <escott> digitalcake, its the proprietary drivers program
[02:22] <crackerjackz> you can access jockey by going to system/administration/additional drivers in the app menu
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: makes sense then, you could use x forwarding and the app would appear to be a local app but run on the server (like citrix), depends if its appropriate etc
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | Kevin__H
[02:22] <nathan_> can anyone help me with my dual monitor set up, my lscpi, xorg.conf and log file is here
[02:22] <nathan_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1043304/
[02:22] <escott> bryce, if all you deleted was the table you can just restore it and everything should be fine. so if you have a backup or know what the layout was you can use that. you can also use tools like testdisk to try and determine the layout
[02:22] <crackerjackz> bryce: immediately stop using that partition that your home directory is on don't let any more data get wrote to that partition
[02:23] <bryce> i was messing with raid and it said it deleted the mbr off of my hard drive.  i found software in windows 7 that lets me look at the files that are there but i cant save unless i pay them.
[02:23] <crackerjackz> bryce: you can recover files / partitions with trinity rescue kit
[02:23] <rschwab> I'm having a hard time getting 12.04 started. I need to reset my user Id and password as I am trying to get wubi started. How would I do this?
[02:23] <bryce> i have not used it at all except to try top pull stuff off.
[02:23] <crackerjackz> bryce: boot trinity rescue kit from cd and use the tools on the cd to recover your files
[02:24] <Kristian_> actionparsnip: anything else I can try to get my wifi working?
[02:24] <celthunder> Kristian_: what did you already tryy
[02:24] <crackerjackz> bryce: http://trinityhome.org
[02:25] <Kristian_> celthunder: echo "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf > /dev/null
[02:25] <Kevin__H> ActionParsnip: can't I use the windows remote desktop instead of vnc?
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> Kristian_: could try ndiswrapper + windows driver , may help
[02:26] <bryce> thanks crackerjackz, im downloading the iso right now.
[02:26] <agc93> Kevin__H: XRDP is something I wouldn't try unless you really know what you're doing
[02:26] <Kristian_> actionparsnip: how do I do that?
[02:26] <celthunder> Kristian_: why disable your driver ?
[02:26] <escott> Kristian_, and you ran update-initramfs and rebooted after that?
[02:26] <Kevin__H> agc93: reasons? slow?
[02:26] <Kristian_> celthunder: eh, thats what actionparsnip was telling me to try. Then he had me delete my change
[02:26] <bryce> its relatively straightforward? im not a complete noob but im not the most advanced
[02:27] <Kristian_> escott: didnt run update-initramfs
[02:27] <crackerjackz> bryce: i won't be able to guide you on how to use some of the tools because ive never been in your situation but ive used TRK for other things.. and i know ppl who have used TRK to recover files
[02:27] <agc93> Kevin__H: It can be a bit slow, but mostly its a serious pain to install and configure
[02:28] <bryce> that's cool. i can probably figure it out. i don't need the whole environment, just some of the files.
[02:28] <marcavis> agc93, there's a segfault near the end of my syslog, I... have no idea http://minus.com/mN67vvaAc/3
[02:28] <Kevin__H> agc93: basically, I have a machine with a video card in it that I want other machines (without video cards) to remote to play minecraft on that machine remotely
[02:28] <marcavis> apt-check[2170]: segfault at 0 ip b7423af1 sp bfc61870 error 6 in libc-2.15.so[b72ee000+19f000]
[02:29] <Kristian_> escott: i typed update-initramfs and it asked me what -letter thing I want to use
[02:29] <crackerjackz> bryce: what type of file system was your home directory on.. ext3?
[02:29] <bryce> ext 4
[02:29] <Kristian_> escott: -k, -c, -u, etc.
[02:30] <nottiredofthis> test
[02:30] <agc93> Kevin__H: you definitely dont want RDP for that. That much graphics would quickly overwhelm it and would lag like hell
[02:30] <escott> Kristian_, usually one would do -u or -k all
[02:30] <wylde_> !test
[02:30] <agc93> Kevin__H: If you have a decent network, just use VNC
[02:30] <Kevin__H> agc93: it's local
[02:30] <vadi2> How to install Oracle (not openjdk or icedtea) web plugin for chrome on 12.04?
[02:31] <Kevin__H> agc93:  decent being measured in mbps speed?  I'm at 50mbps
[02:31] <escott> Kristian_, it may not be necessary. ActionParsnip knows what he is doing so if he didnt mention it its probably not needed
[02:31] <crackerjackz> bryce: http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?content=3.2_RECOVERING_DELETED_FILES_OR_FILES_FROM_FORMATT_1&front_id=12&lang=en&locale=en
[02:31] <Kristian_> escott: I tried -u and it said permission denied
[02:31] <Cyclohexane> how do you tar multiple directories into one archive? but say 1 directory per command...
[02:31] <agc93> Kevin__H: 50? Is your network 10/100 or Gigabit?
[02:31] <escott> Kristian_, its a root command
[02:31] <bryce> but for the future whats the best filesystem for linux? im running windows 7 and ubuntu studio 12.04 dual boot off 128gb ssd with /home on seperate 2tb hhd.
[02:31] <Kristian_> he said to reboot, which I did. he just didnt mention update-initramfs
[02:31] <dax> bryce: ext4
[02:31] <Kevin__H> agc93: I'm inclined to say 10/100, but is there a way I can check?
[02:31] <Kristian_> escott: so... what do I have to do?
[02:32] <agc93> Do you use any switches or routers in your network?
[02:32] <crackerjackz> bryce: depends on what you want to accomplish, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[02:32] <escott> Kristian_, i haven't been following this beyond the one command you posted.
[02:33] <Kevin__H> agc93: just one, it's a wireless switch/router
[02:33] <bryce> Thanks very much crackerjackz im off to try trinity.
[02:33] <Kristian_> escott: ah. Basically, Im trying to get wifi. I juuuust downloaded ubuntu, and the it wont connect. It detects the network, and asks for password, but wont actually connect to the internet
[02:33] <Kevin__H> agc93:  my connection is directly broadcasted from it, it's an all in one
[02:34] <agc93> So how is the computer connected to the router? Wireless or wired?
[02:34] <crackerjackz> Kevin__H: what type of encryption is your network using?
[02:34] <escott> Kristian_, yes i gathered that from your messing with an iw module. but i dont know how to fix it. i was just saying if you are changing /etc/modules you certainly need to reboot, and you might need to update the initramfs
[02:34] <Kristian_> escott: oh, okay.
[02:35] <Kevin__H> agc93: the machine that I am trying to remotely connect to is hooked up wired
[02:35] <agc93> Kevin__H: and how old is the router?
[02:35] <Kevin__H> agc93: less than a year
[02:35] <escott> Cyclohexane, 1 directory per command? what do you mean
[02:35] <Kevin__H> crackerjackz: it's a wpa, tkip encryption
[02:36] <agc93> Kevin__H: Then its probably gigabit. And the other computers your going to connect from? Wired as well?
[02:36] <agc93> woops, you're*
[02:36] <Kristian_> so how does one go about using ndiswrapper?
[02:36] <Kevin__H> agc93: the one that is mainly going to be using minecraft is wired .. but I have intention to use wireless devices as well, and I'm also in the process of trying to figure out how to make it VPN as well so I can access it anywhere
[02:37] <Cyclohexane> escott: like tar cf dir1 then tar cf dir2 but add it to the same archive as dir1
[02:37] <nathan_> I really am lost with this dual monitor configuration all my latest attempts at config files and the log files are http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1043321/
[02:37] <escott> Cyclohexane, --append or use xargs
[02:38] <Cyclohexane> escott: how would i use xargs?
[02:38] <agc93> well, with the VPN I don't know thats going to work very well. Minecraft is not very resource-efficient when its run locally let alone over the Internet. For within your network, I would try VNC first and see how laggy it is.
[02:38] <agc93> Kevin__H: then , if that doesnt work, you can look at things like X forwarding or RDP
[02:40] <escott> Cyclohexane, something | xargs command --base
[02:41] <calamari> does ubuntu keep archives of packages for really old versions, like debian does?
[02:41] <dax> calamari: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[02:41] <escott> nathan_, that at least makes sense as an xorg.conf. what happens when you start the server?
[02:42] <nimbiotics> which would be the appropriate channel to ask a question about mencoder? TIA
[02:43] <nathan_> escott, just one screen comes up
[02:43] <bazhang> !alis | nimbiotics have a search
[02:43] <nathan_> escott, that screen is fine resolution wise and all and i don't get thrown to low graphics mode. But still no second screen
[02:44] <nimbiotics> escott: THANK YOU  VERY MUCH!
[02:44] <escott> nimbiotics, ??
[02:45] <escott> nathan_, so just the primary card. but the second display is blank?
[02:45] <nathan_> escott, yes
[02:45] <trevorj> Hello all, is there a way to get multipath to not make all of my device nodes return EBUSY?
[02:46] <Kevin__H> agc93: so I need to install vnc on my windows machine and then just enter the IP address, bada boom bada bing?
[02:47] <agc93> Wait, so the Windows machine is the one with the GPU you want to connect to, or the one you're trying to connect from?
[02:47] <escott> nathan_, well things i would do are clean up the xorg.conf by removing the ignored options like "Monitor-VGA" and "Right Of" there is also this warning (WW) R128(0): Direct rendering is not supported when VGA arb is necessary for the device
[02:48] <nimbiotics> xzxmsg alis help list
[02:48] <Kevin__H> the one I'm trying to connect from
[02:48] <agc93> Kevin__H: then yes, you will need a VNC client on that machine
[02:49] <Kevin__H> agc93: and that's it and I can just enter the ip address ( same way I've been sshing?)
[02:49] <agc93> Kevin__H: and you will need to configure the Ubuntu box you're connecting to by going to Desktop Sharing in System Settings and selecting allow other users to control your desktop
[02:50] <agc93> note that with this method, only one device can actively use the Ubuntu host at a time
[02:50] <Kevin__H> agc93: can I do that from command line? I have my box all setup with power and network and that's it
[02:50] <Kevin__H> agc93:  no problem with one at a time
[02:50] <agc93> wait, what. How are you running minecraft on it?
[02:50] <Kevin__H> agc93:  I haven't gotten that far yet :)
[02:51] <calamari> dax: thanks!
[02:51] <agc93> well, you're going to struggle to run Minecraft without a GUI, aren't you?
[02:51] <Kevin__H> agc93:  I'm trying to find and get repostories working, but apparently people are having difficulties with 12.04 -- apparently it worked on 11.04
[02:51] <Kevin__H> agc93: yes.. However, I did this: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:51] <Alan502> Hello. I have a squid server I am trying to set up to connect to another proxy server. However, I think it cannot connect to this other proxy server beacuse it is trying to look for it on my eth0 interface when it actually is on my wlan0 interface. Can I make an interface my "default" or "main" interface?
[02:52] <Alan502> somewhere?
[02:52] <nathan_> escott, I'm not seeing anything really helpful on google about that error message, I didn't notice it before
[02:52] <calamari> dax: I must be missing something.. I see installation cds but not the packages
[02:52] <agc93> Kevin__H: So how did you install Ubuntu in the first place? Alternate/server ISO?
[02:52] <dax> calamari: as with other mirrors, releases/ is installation ISOs, ubuntu/ is packages
[02:52] <Kevin__H> agc93:  bootable cd
[02:53] <agc93> Kevin__H: bootable CD of what? If it was the Live CD, you should've automatically gotten a GUI
[02:53] <escott> nathan_, a couple lines after it is the only commend on the second device which mentions vga arbiters. i dont know what that means, but it might mean "you cant do this with ati drivers"
[02:53] <calamari> dax: oh cool, thanks again
[02:53] <Kevin__H> agc93:  must not have been, after I installed, it loads command line and that's it
[02:53] <agc93> What ISO did you put on the bootable CD?
[02:54] <Kevin__H> agc93: the server iso from the ubuntu website
[02:54] <agc93> Right. Server version. Whole different deal. In that case, X forwarding through SSH is probably your best bet.
[02:54] <nathan_> escott, thanks! I'm going to google a bit more and then give windows a shot. I'm that desperate.
[02:55] <agc93> Kevin__H: Do you have any GUI apps installed on your server?
[02:55] <Kevin__H> agc93:  the only thing I did was install ubuntu-desktop, it took a while, and it installed open office, other stuff, etc.. so I assume so
[02:56] <escott> Kevin__H, do you have a monitor attached to this computer?
[02:56] <Kevin__H> escott: not right now, I am sshing to it to do work now -- when I did the base install and setup ssh I had it connected, but now I'm just sshing
[02:57] <escott> Kevin__H, X won't start unless you have a monitor so that would make vnc really hard
[02:58] <Kevin__H> escott: yeah, but can't I view what's going on from my remotely connected machine?
[02:58] <intrader> Anyone, I find the performance of unity slow - in this case is the action of the unit menu bar. It takes several stabbs with the mouse to popup the menu.. Is there a way to make the left bar always showing?
[02:58] <escott> Kevin__H, thats what ssh is for.
[02:59] <agc93> intrader: like I said last time you asked, there is an option in the Appearance Dialog from System settings to keep it there
[02:59] <escott> Kevin__H, im sure there is something you can do to configure X to draw to a virtual monitor, but i have no idea what that would be, and it wouldnt be part of the standard install
[03:00] <Kevin__H> escott: I think this is getting overcomplicated, I've seen so many times before where there's a server off somewhere running, and people can remotely connect to it and see a desktop using remote desktop connection on windows, that's what I'm trying to do
[03:00] <Kevin__H> escott:  but I think I messed up my server install because all I ended up with was just command line
[03:01] <agc93> Thats how server installs work Kevin__H
[03:01] <intrader> agc93, sorry I missed it. I have set reveal sensitivity as high - I dont' see option to keep it displayed
[03:02] <Kevin__H> agc93:  so maybe I should just install the regular home version of ubuntu rather than the server?  I wanted to play around with some of the other features with server as well...
[03:02] <escott> Kevin__H, you might want Xvnc with vncserver
[03:02] <escott> Kevin__H, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/Xvnc4.1.html
[03:02] <agc93> intrader: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[03:03] <HelloComputer15> mint 13 ftw
[03:03] <intrader> agc93, totally unintuitive 'Auto hide the Launcher 'off' . I am running 12.04
[03:04] <agc93> intrader: so that switch is set to off? Is the launcher still disappearing? Or is it right now?
[03:04] <intrader> agc93, totally unintuitive - it is poped up (showing)
[03:05] <agc93> you were looking for it stay showing weren't you?
[03:06] <intrader> agc93, since this was my issue, it is Ok poped up. as to other performance issued - it takes multiple seconds to switch tabs or windows - most of the time
[03:07] <agc93> thats odd. Have you tried switching to Unity 2D. It will perform better at the expense of some of the fancier effects
[03:07] <intrader> agc93, it appears that the machination to implment the title and top menus is what is taking time.
[03:09] <intrader> agc93, I have chosen 2D
[03:10] <Kevin__H> agc93:  so how can I get a GUI for my machine?  I am having trouble with VNC
[03:10] <lanotec> oi
[03:11] <agc93> The easiest way would be to use the desktop ISO and then add any of the server components you wanted to use, but thats just me
[03:12] <willian> Hi.
[03:12] <reisio> hi
[03:12] <willian> whos work in distributed system
[03:12] <escott> Kevin__H, you can run an X server on your client and tunnel the X commands through the ssh connection to the server. this would allow you to run one off programs, but its not usually used to start full desktops. alternately you need to run some kind of X server like Xvnc on the server combined with a VNC server and use your vnc client on the client to access that
[03:12] <Kevin__H> is there any way that I can add a GUI to my existing server?
[03:13] <reisio> Kevin__H: yup, but it'll make the server less secure and less efficient
[03:13] <agc93> I believe thats what XNC does Kevin
[03:13] <agc93> XVNC*
[03:13] <dax> !servergui
[03:13] <Kevin__H> and I need a GUI to run applications like minecraft
[03:13] <celthunder> Kevin__H: run an x server on the server and then have the client (your desktop) connect to it....just like any other service
[03:13] <reisio> hey look, a parrot
[03:13] <reisio> Kevin__H: on a server? :p Why didn't you install the Desktop version?
[03:14] <Kevin__H> reisio: http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/funny-dog-pictures-i-have-no-idea-what-im-doing.jpg
[03:15] <escott> Kevin__H, the main thing you need to understand about X servers is that they server screen space. that means no screen no X server. so you cant run a gui without a monitor. hence your remote client would need to have an Xserver if you want to use X (tunneled through ssh). Xvnc apparently knows how to trick X into using a "virtual" screen so that you can start the X server on the server
[03:15] <celthunder> Kevin__H: reisio just my opinion if you install X on something its not a server anymore its a glorified desktop that happens to serve
[03:15] <genii> escott: There are virtual X screen drivers as well
[03:16] <Kevin__H> here's what I don't understand... my work users Windows server 2003, and we can remotely connect to it using any other computer on the domain and it gives a full GUI (desktop environment of that machine)
[03:16] <Kevin__H> that's what I was hoping I'd be able to do
[03:16] <escott> genii, yeah but from the "ease of configuration perspective" i think its fair to say they dont exist. since he doesnt have a monitor attached to his server at the moment its going to be awkward for him to use X on the server (unless its Xvnc)
[03:16] <agc93> Windows Server has a built in GUI
[03:17] <agc93> Ubuntu is a pure server distribution and therefore does not have a GUI
[03:17] <reisio> Kevin__H: and it's much less efficient and less secure because of it
[03:17] <reisio> he means 'Ubuntu Server' is a pure server
[03:17] <reisio> celthunder: preaching to the choir
[03:17] <Kevin__H> so for my purposes of allowing other machines to use minecraft (other computers which don't have 3d acceleration), I should just do the ubuntu home edition?
[03:17] <agc93> yes, correction noted. Windows Server is a GUI-driven OS requiring large amounts of resources. Ubuntu Server is a simpler pure server distribution thats lightweight as well
[03:18] <reisio> Kevin__H: mmm, you don't think the latency of the remote connection will be just as much of an issue as not having 3d acceleration?
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> agc93: Windows Core doesn't have a  GUI actually
[03:18] <reisio> ActionParsnip: now if only anyone had mentioned 'Windows Core'
[03:18] <escott> Kevin__H, and for ease of use you might want to attach a display. but i would echo reisio's concern about latency
[03:18] <Kevin__H> interesting... well I thought I'd just play around with the ubuntu server -- what exactly can it do?
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> reisio: its a Windows server OS
[03:19] <reisio> Kevin__H: now just having dumb terminals/monitors connected to the same computer, that could work
[03:19] <agc93> Windows Core is also severely limited in functionality unfortunately.
[03:19] <reisio> Kevin__H: anything any OS can do, and more, but to do it the best way requires a little thought
[03:19] <reisio> ActionParsnip: tell me more
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> agc93: hardly, works great here
[03:19] <agc93> ActionParsnip: really? I shall have to give it another try.
[03:19] <reisio> yup, Windows works great
[03:19] <reisio> that's why I use Linux, too
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> reisio: its a windows server without all the GUI fluff, super slimmed down, really efficient but can be hard to work with at first
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> agc93: we use it here in clusters
[03:20] <gry> or you use x windows in linux
[03:20] <reisio> ActionParsnip: sorry I was being sarcastic
[03:20] <gry> np
[03:20] <reisio> nobody mentioned whatever you're talking about, it's irrelevant
[03:20] <trevorj> reisio: lol
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> reisio: doesn't convey in text dude ;)
[03:20] <newtoubuntu> is this the right place to ask a ubuntu beginner query?
[03:20] <reisio> ActionParsnip: why I just said it
[03:20] <reisio> newtoubuntu: sure
[03:20] <gry> newtoubuntu, yes
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> reisio: 04:16 < agc93> Windows Server has a built in GUI
[03:20] <gry> newtoubuntu, welcome
[03:21] <reisio> ActionParsnip: it has
[03:21] <reisio> moving on
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> reisio: was simply stating that they don't all have a gui ;)
[03:21] <echo083> what is the alternate version of ubuntu ?
[03:21] <escott> !alternate | echo083
[03:21] <reisio> ActionParsnip: they don't if you remove the GUI
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> echo083: installs a desktop OS in text mode
[03:21] <reisio> ActionParsnip: but surely that's obvious
[03:21] <echo083> escott, cool thanks
[03:21] <escott> echo083, ie its the debian installer if you are familiar with debian
[03:22] <echo083> escott, i just downloaded the classic version :(
[03:22] <echo083> escott, nevermind :)
[03:22] <echo083> escott, thanks
[03:22] <gry> is that what you wanted?
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> reisio: exactly, so saying it has a GUI is inaccurate
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> reisio: it has one by default, but is removable
[03:22] <reisio> ActionParsnip: 'it has one' your own words
[03:22] <reisio> can we move along now?
[03:22] <reisio> nobody brought this up but you anyways
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> reisio: surelets move
[03:24] <Kevin__H> I'm still getting problems with "unable to locate package", I added lines to /etc/apt/sources.list  and I did sudo apt-get update
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: what did you add?
[03:24] <Kevin__H> Is there anything I can do to automatically update and fix my repository problems?
[03:24] <agc93> and what are you trying to install?
[03:24] <Kevin__H> openbox
[03:24] <Kevin__H> and java
[03:25] <pandu> opera van java
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: openbox is in the repos
[03:25] <newtoubuntu> i have windows 7 on partitionc: and my personal data on partition d:............ now i want to replace windows 7 with ubuntu without deleting d:..... how do i do that? c: drive is around 40gb. do i need to divide that space into separate partitions? i don't know what is swap space, ex4 etc exactly
[03:25] <Kelsie> Is there a list of active environment variables other than what the 'env' command displays? If I echo things that env does not show as set, sometimes they are showing up anyway. For instance if I run 'env -i /bin/bash', $PS1 is still populated, even though 'env' doesn't show it as set.
[03:25] <Kevin__H> sudo apt-get install openbox (this results in unable to find package)
[03:25] <gry> Kelsie: printenv ?
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> !info openbox
[03:25] <genii> !info openbox
[03:26] <gry> Kevin__H: apt-get update, first
[03:26]  * genii slides ActionParsnip the winning mug of coffee
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: do you have the universe repo enabled?
[03:26] <Kevin__H> Gry I did
[03:26] <Kevin__H> hang on
[03:26] <OerHeks> Kevin__H, adding lines to your sourceslist sometimes needs keys for those lines.
[03:26] <Kevin__H> This is my source.list file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1043374/
[03:27] <escott> Kelsie, because bash will set ps1
[03:27] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: grep univer /etc/apt/sources.list | grep deb      should show the deb lines, if they are commented, you need to uncomment them
[03:27] <Kelsie> escott: Is there a list of variables that are automatically set in that manner? $PATH seems to get set too
[03:27] <agc93> kevin__h you need to enable universe repos
[03:27] <agc93> they are not in your sources list so openbox will be unreachable
[03:28] <escott> Kelsie, trace the bash startup scripts /etc/profile and so on
[03:28] <Kevin__H> ActionParsnip:  I did what you said
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: universe enabled, you can now run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install openbox
[03:29] <wolfgang> I changed a setting in my keyboard thing and i need to know how to restore to default it's all messed up. what do i  do?
[03:29] <wolfgang> Hello?
[03:30] <agc93> !patience
[03:30] <OerHeks> wolfgang use the reset to default in keysettings.
[03:30] <wolfgang> Where?
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: better?
[03:30] <Kevin__H> ActionParsnip: you are more talented than I
[03:30] <Kevin__H> ActionParsnip:  and yes
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: been here a long time dude :)
[03:30] <Kevin__H> ActionParsnip: never mind.. it screwed up
[03:31] <harrrismrubin> why should i add ubuntu to my galaxy trab 2 10.1
[03:31] <wolfgang> OerHeks: where is that?
[03:31] <agc93> Kevin__H: what now?
[03:31] <Kevin__H> ActionParsnip:  unable to locate package openbox
[03:31] <agc93> harrismrubin: what do you mean?
[03:31] <agc93> Kevin__H: have you enable the universe repos?
[03:31] <OerHeks> wolfgang, type 'key' in dash and it comes up
[03:31] <Kevin__H> I did the grep command that ActionParsnip said
[03:31] <Kevin__H> and updated
[03:31] <newtoubuntu> any guidance for me?
[03:31] <agc93> ok yeah, you need to add the universe repos to your sources.lsit
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: the command doesn't change anything
[03:32] <physically_fit> hey what's the command to reinstall? sudo apt-get reinstall? how is it? help me. thanks.
[03:32] <Alan502> Can someone help me with squid and using it to connect to another proxy?
[03:32] <wolfgang> OerHeks: im in settings how do i restore to default?
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: it just shows you the lines with universe on
[03:32] <agc93> physically_fit: its sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[03:32] <reisio> physically_fit: to reinstall what? Why?
[03:32] <physically_fit> oh thanks agc93 . reisio nevermind
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: you'll need to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and uncomment those lines
[03:33] <wolfgang> OerHeks: im in settings how do i restore to default?v
[03:33] <OerHeks> wolfgang use the reset to default in keysettings. it looks like a button.
[03:33] <agc93> ActionParsnip: the paste he uploaded didnt have any of the universe lines in it
[03:33] <abhitest> hi. dueo to some unknown reason my ubuntu grub has started showing itself without timer and sits there and does nothing. my keyboard can not be detected at grub level so i can not press enter. right now i am from live fedora. how can i edit my ubuntu grub file in order to force it select default entry and boot into ubuntu? help please?
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> agc93: dang
[03:33] <Kevin__H> is there somewhere I can get a complete sources.list?
[03:33] <Kevin__H> and copy/paste it in?
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[03:34] <wolfgang> Oerheks, I'm in ubuntu 12.04 but i don't see a button
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: thats what I was thinking
[03:34] <Kevin__H> precise
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: gimme a sec
[03:34] <agc93> kevin__h: use http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/01/restore-your-sources-list-to-defaults.html
[03:34] <abhitest> hi. dueo to some unknown reason my ubuntu grub has started showing itself without timer and sits there and does nothing. before this i set it to not show itself and automatically select default entry and boot into ubuntu and it was working fine. my keyboard can not be detected at grub level so i can not press enter. right now i am from live fedora. how can i edit my ubuntu grub file in order to force it select default entry and boo
[03:34] <escott> abhitest, chroot in. modify /etc/default/grub, update-grub
[03:34] <abhitest> escott: how to chroot? and what to modify?
[03:34] <escott> !chroot | abhitest
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1043382/
[03:34] <abhitest> what to modify inside grub?
[03:34] <OerHeks> wolfgang , you don;t look hard enough, can't help you then.
[03:35] <wolfgang> Oerheks, I'm in ubuntu 12.04 but i don't see a button
[03:35] <wolfgang> sorry
[03:35] <wolfgang> hold on
[03:35] <abhitest> escott: but in my ubuntu installation / and /boot are separate
[03:35] <Kevin__H> ActionParsnip: copy and overwrite that one?
[03:35] <agc93> Kevin__H: Nevermind, use ActionParsnip's file, it will be easier
[03:35] <escott> abhitest, once you look at /etc/default/grub it should be fairly clear what the relevant options are.
[03:35] <agc93> overwrite your current sources.list, yes
[03:35] <escott> abhitest, so?
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> abhitest: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[03:35] <FLJohn> Issue with HP printer
[03:36] <wolfgang> OerHeks, there is no button I have looked all over it
[03:36] <abhitest> escott: chroot will just mount / and not the /boot right? or not?
[03:36] <agc93> FLJohn: you need to be more specific
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__H: sure, that's mine, just with the partner repo enabled and so on
[03:36] <escott> abhitest, chroot doesn't mount anything. you have to do the mounts before you call chroot
[03:36] <FLJohn> Bought Aftermarket ink that was refilled and the printer reads the cartridges that they have been empty and not usable
[03:36] <newtoubuntu> gry any advice?
[03:36] <abhitest> escott: ok
[03:36] <abhitest> ActionParsnip: checking
[03:37] <Kevin__H> ActionParsnip:  aiet, I am going to update now
[03:37] <escott> abhitest, you need to mount your system root, your /boot, bind mount your dev, maybe also your proc and sys, and then you can chroot in
[03:37] <physically_fit> what happened to the Linux flash versions? we are way behind the other OS. it wasn't that way before.
[03:37] <agc93> FLJohn: this is an Ubuntu support channel, thats probably something that HP support will need to help you with
[03:37] <abhitest> escott: ok
[03:37] <agc93> physically_fit: adobe stopped supporting Linux
[03:37] <escott> abhitest, also if your fedora is 32bit and ubuntu is 64bit chroot wont work
[03:37] <FLJohn> Is there an hp support room.
[03:37] <wolfgang> OerHeks: please Help it's just not there.
[03:37] <physically_fit> agc93, OMG
[03:38] <genii> physically_fit: Right on their site, Adobe states they will no longer develop it, only support the last version
[03:38] <Alan502> I beg for help with squid I'm desperate to set up my Internet connection please ! :D
[03:38] <reisio> FLJohn: probably, why do you ask?
[03:38] <abhitest> escott: :-o right. my fedora is 32 bit. and ubuntu 64 bit.
[03:38] <reisio> Alan502: #squid ?
[03:38] <agc93> FLJohn: I have no idea, just google for it or something
[03:38] <physically_fit> agc genii what are we goona do?
[03:38] <abhitest> escott: any other way?
[03:38] <FLJohn> tried that already
[03:38] <Alan502> reisio: nobody answering :(
[03:38] <reisio> Alan502: well it is late, on Friday
[03:38] <agc93> physically_fit: keep using the current one until HTML5 catches on, I guess
[03:38] <FLJohn> Tried to google my issue.  Thanks for help
[03:39] <Alan502> reisio: i guess so
[03:39] <genii> physically_fit: Support gnash?
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> physically_fit: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/adobe-adandons-flash-on-linux
[03:39] <escott> abhitest, livecd
[03:39] <wolfgang> OerHeks: please Help it's just not there.
[03:39] <reisio> HTML5 is not a replacement for Flash :p
[03:39] <somethinginteres> I am looking for a PDF reading program that can highlight text text in different colours. Any suggestions?
[03:39] <Alan502> reisio: meh, I have been reading tons of articles about squid, routing, etc but with no success so far :(
[03:39] <reisio> not any more than HTML4 was, anyways
[03:39] <reisio> Alan502: maybe if you tried to be more positive
[03:40] <Alan502> reisio: :P
[03:40] <Twinlator> How to connect MySQL by LibreOffice Base?
[03:40] <abhitest> escott: ActionParsnip i can mount my ubuntu /boot using nautilus does that help?
[03:40] <OerHeks> wolfgang, this is what i see, ( in dutch) http://picpaste.com/pics/keyboard-Qdwcw3vL.1339817984.png
[03:40] <Alan502> yey I can do this!
[03:40] <abhitest> escott: ActionParsnip and i can see grub.cfg file there inside grub folder
[03:40] <newtoubuntu> reisio any other places i can look for help?
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> abhitest: the guide shows the commands to run to mount the partitions and systems, then chroot
[03:40] <reisio> newtoubuntu: for what?
[03:40] <reisio> with what*
[03:40] <abhitest> ActionParsnip: this is live fedora. no plugins to view the video! :-(
[03:41] <newtoubuntu> reisio i have windows 7 on partitionc: and my personal data on partition d:............ now i want to replace windows 7 with ubuntu without deleting d:..... how do i do that? c: drive is around 40gb. do i need to divide that space into separate partitions? i don't know what is swap space, ex4 etc exactly
[03:41] <physically_fit> ActionParsnip, thanks
[03:41] <wolfgang> Oerheks, thank sorry i didn't check layout.
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> abhitest: no need for the video, the text is all you need
[03:41] <wolfgang> By
[03:41] <abhitest> ActionParsnip: ok
[03:41] <agc93> newtobuntu: just install only on the partition that currently has C: on it. Ubuntu will ignore the other parition
[03:41] <reisio> newtoubuntu: you want to delete C and keep D?
[03:42] <escott> abhitest, you could do a onetime edit just to boot. or go find a ps2 keyboard
[03:42] <newtoubuntu> reisio yes
[03:42] <reisio> newtoubuntu: IIRC the first window of the installer offers you two options, the second of which is 'Something Else', which is what you want
[03:42] <abhitest> escott: ok
[03:42] <wolfgang> OerHeks, that didn't seem to fix it...
[03:42] <escott> newtoubuntu, dont do that you need windows to repair ntfs if it is ever corrupted
[03:43] <reisio> newtoubuntu: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MlKTWt0GDyE/T5mfyqJ9A1I/AAAAAAAAACo/WQQw4XiyKDQ/s1600/Ubuntu+installtion+step+3.jpg
[03:43] <reisio> escott: or he could copy his data over to his ext partitions and remake his "D" drive later
[03:44] <newtoubuntu> escott so what do you recommend?
[03:44] <escott> reisio, was brushing my teeth so trying to type less. newtoubuntu shouldn't do this naively (just replacing C with ubuntu)
[03:45] <abhitest> escott: how can i add this liveuser to the sudoers list? so that i can edit?
[03:45] <reisio> I don't see a problem with it
[03:45] <escott> newtoubuntu, if you want a full break from windows you will need to move any data on "D:" out of the NTFS to a new partition. ie you will effectively double the disk usage of your data for a time.
[03:45] <Kevin__H> two question: repository for java?  also, how can I check that openbox is installed and working?  Can I use VNC now?
[03:45] <reisio> newtoubuntu: the only concern is if your D "drive" file system is trivially corrupted in the near future and you don't have Windows to fsck (FS-check) it
[03:45] <riz0n> Hey. I have an older Ubuntu 10.04 LTS server. I want to migrate to a new server running 12.04 LTS. I set the server up and copied the user dirs over, but could not get the email portion to work properly. Can somoene walk me through the prpoer method to migrate a Linux configuration from one machine to another?
[03:46] <wolfgang> OerHeks, it was in repeat keys, i chngedd something like and idiot and don't know how to fix i moved bars around
[03:46] <reisio> newtoubuntu: the best solution to that is to not use NTFS, to copy that data to a native linux file system
[03:46] <escott> abhitest, sudo chroot, gives you a uid 0 chroot
[03:46] <wolfgang> OerHeks, it was in repeat keys, i chngedd something like and idiot and don't know how to fix i moved bars around
[03:46] <abhitest> escott:  sudo chroot liveuser is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[03:46] <agc93> Kevin__H: there are a number of different forms of java. Do you need the JRE, the JDK or the plugin?
[03:46] <Alan502> I just installed squid and port 3128 does not seem to be open to receive requests why could this be?
[03:47] <escott> abhitest, i have no idea what you are doing or what liveuser is
[03:47] <wolfgang> OerHeks, Do you know how to fix?
[03:47] <Kevin__H> agc93: Just jre for now, but I'd like to get everything
[03:47] <abhitest> escott: liveuser is when we are running fedora from live usb media
[03:47] <newtoubuntu> reisio escott ok i can copy data to my other computer, then?
[03:47] <reisio> newtoubuntu: do you have another computer that has Windows on it?
[03:47] <newtoubuntu> yes
[03:47] <escott> newtoubuntu, anywhere you want. but don't remove windows and then keep important data on NTFS
[03:47] <reisio> newtoubuntu: this "D" drive, is it removable, or internal?
[03:48] <wolfgang>  OerHeks, Very sorry i fixed thaqnk you for you time
[03:48] <newtoubuntu> internal - logical partition, i suppose
[03:48] <escott> abhitest, i thought fedora was a no-go because of the architecture issues
[03:48] <newtoubuntu> reisio escott internal - logical partition, i suppose
[03:49] <reisio> newtoubuntu: how much data is on D?
[03:49] <abhitest> escott: i was just trying to directly edit /etc/default/grub from fedora. but i think now i should try ubuntu. i just remember that i have one extra ubuntu beta in my backup hdd i will go and run it. thank you for your efforts escott and ActionParsnip brb :-)
[03:50] <escott> abhitest, if you need root access in a chroot you sudo prior to the chroot call. so sudo -i; blah blah blah; chroot or sudo chroot /path/to/whatever
[03:50] <newtoubuntu> 200gb but the essential part is around 40gb
[03:50] <abhitest> escott: ok
[03:50] <abhitest> brb
[03:50] <newtoubuntu> reisio escott 200gb but the essential part is around 40gb
[03:50] <reisio> newtoubuntu: so it won't fit on C?
[03:50] <reisio> newtoubuntu: will it fit on your other computer's disk/s?
[03:50] <newtoubuntu> reisio escott no c: is 40 gb
[03:51] <simplew> how do i check services in ubuntu?
[03:51] <escott> newtoubuntu, so you could install ubuntu (thats 20GB or less) and create a new partition for your data which is ext4, then move all the data from the NTFS "D:" to that partition, and then delete the NTFS parittion
[03:51] <reisio> escott: nope, he doesn't have the space
[03:51] <reisio> newtoubuntu: will it fit on your other computer's disk/s?
[03:52] <reisio> will the data on D fit*
[03:52] <escott> reisio, i typed that all out before he corrected himself
[03:52] <newtoubuntu> reisio not the one i'm trying to install ubuntu on
[03:52] <reisio> escott: so?
[03:52] <reisio> you want me to take you out of the 'wrong forever' column, is that it?
[03:52] <reisio> too bad, I never put you there in the first place
[03:53] <escott> reisio, just saying i didnt see his correction is all
[03:53] <reisio> newtoubuntu: so the data on D fits nowhere on any disk you have except where it is right now?
[03:53] <reisio> escott: I don't care either way
[03:53] <newtoubuntu> escott what all partitions of what types do i need to safely use ubuntu... as in d: on windows.. although microsoft doesn't tell you, d: is essential
[03:53] <escott> reisio, then why are you bugging me about it if you dont care?
[03:53] <reisio> newtoubuntu: usually you want two, one for / and one for swap
[03:54] <reisio> escott: you're bugging me dude
[03:54] <simplew> how is possible to check services in ubuntu???
[03:54] <reisio> simplew: check for what?
[03:55] <escott> newtoubuntu, you don't want you family photos on an NTFS partition on an internal drive if you dont have windows. its just a recipe for heartache down the road.
[03:55] <reisio> simplew: try man service
[03:55] <simplew> ubuntu still uses SysVinit?
[03:55] <reisio> newtoubuntu: can you answer my last question?
[03:55] <reisio> simplew: it uses upstart, IIRC
[03:55] <escott> newtoubuntu, by removing "C:" and replacing it with ubuntu you get 40GB of space that is ext4. Ubuntu will take 10-20GB. so if you photos other personal data are <20GB you can put that on the ubuntu partition and then delete the "D:"
[03:56] <newtoubuntu> reisio one "guide" said something about three or four different partitions for programs, data etc
[03:56] <escott> simplew, server --status-all
[03:56] <reisio> and we already know they _aren't_ <20GB...
[03:56] <simplew> isnt there a GUI to handle services?
[03:56] <reisio> newtoubuntu: that's for people who know a lot about the system and what they're doing, you can try that later if you like
[03:56] <reisio> simplew: probably
[03:56] <escott> newtoubuntu, otherwise you need another place to put those files while you transition
[03:56] <taipres> can you give me a package to install with apt-get that asks more than 1 question please
[03:56] <taipres> trying to test something
[03:57] <newtoubuntu> reisio but what if my ubuntu becomes corrupt, and i have to reformat
[03:57] <reisio> newtoubuntu: only a backup system protects fully against "corruption"
[03:58] <newtoubuntu> reisio escott you mean a external hard disk is essential?
[03:58] <reisio> newtoubuntu: no, but redundant copies of data you care about is
[03:58] <newtoubuntu> reisio escott if i want to keep data safe
[03:59] <reisio> external hard disks are one cheap way to achieve that
[03:59] <i45> help: can i somehow print or echo EOF (CTRL+D) to stdin? i am trying to pipe text and it just keeps waiting for me to end
[03:59] <d33wakar> taipres mine always ask two or more
[04:00] <d33wakar> taipres what are you testing btw
[04:00] <escott> i45, ctrl-D doesnt work?
[04:00] <taipres> d33 bash automation, so I don't have to input stuff
[04:00] <escott> i45, how did you start this pipe?
[04:00] <taipres> got to work with 1 thing need to test multiple
[04:00] <i45> escott: it works, but i need to pipe it w/o me pressing it
[04:00] <i45> echo "xx" | app
[04:01] <escott> i45, probably something like "echo -e \0"
[04:01] <newtoubuntu> reisio escott about your earlier question, "newtoubuntu: so the data on D fits nowhere on any disk you have except where it is right now?"... if you could tell me what exactly would i need to do, it might
[04:01] <taipres> try echo "xx\n"
[04:01] <taipres> or rather
[04:02] <taipres> printf "%s\n" yourtext | app
[04:02] <reisio> newtoubuntu: is there any computer hard drive you have access to that you can move the data on D to, even temporarily?
[04:03] <newtoubuntu> reisio i have a separate computer.. but moving the data would take some time
[04:03] <escott> newtoubuntu, depends on how close to fitting it is. one thing you could do is boot the livecd/installcd and say "try ubuntu", then use gparted to remove the unneeded windows partition and create a new partition (which will be your /home) in its place. and copy your data to that partition. verify it is all there. then delete the D: partition and install ubuntu to the empty space where D: was, reboot to ubuntu, and then fixup things so you
[04:03] <escott> r /home is what was the C: partition and now has your data
[04:04] <reisio> newtoubuntu: yes, depending on your network speed it might
[04:04] <d33wakar> whenever i use apt-get , it always warns me that the packages are not verified
[04:04] <reisio> newtoubuntu: you could take the hard disk out and connect it to the other box to do it faster
[04:05] <escott> newtoubuntu, but if you have 101GB of data on a 200GB drive it will never be possible to move it. if you have >40GB of data and the only way to free space is to delete C: or resize D: it might be possible if you go through a resize process but thats really timeconsuming and itself puts the data at risk
[04:05] <d33wakar> "these packages could not be verified , do you want to continue?'
[04:05] <d33wakar> and i can't install anything from software center
[04:05] <ACommandForWar> why isnt ubuntu as successfully as microsoft?
[04:06] <escott> taipres, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/463913/how-would-you-represent-eof-in-bash
[04:06] <reisio> ACommandForWar: Microsoft is older, and plays rougher
[04:06] <pengwu> if i want to tiger a syscall in terminal what should i do ??? e.g: getpid()
[04:07] <KRomeleoN> if you count android, doesnt linux outsell windows os daily?
[04:07] <pengwu> i tied just type getpid() and the terminal was got into >
[04:07] <simplew> how can i check the existent groups?
[04:07] <reisio> KRomeleoN: I'm not sure free copies count as outselling
[04:07] <reisio> KRomeleoN: more popular, sure
[04:07] <escott> simplew, groups
[04:07] <simplew> isnt there a gui?
[04:07] <reisio> KRomeleoN: probably even without Android factored in
[04:08] <reisio> simplew: there is, yes
[04:08] <i45> taipres, escott thanks, the problem was somethine else though heh :)
[04:08] <simplew> kuser uses to show the users and groups, but the gnome tool for user acconts does not
[04:09] <newtoubuntu> reisio escott ok let me check how much data is exactly there and then i get back to you
[04:09] <d33wakar> apt-get always warns me about untrusted packages
[04:09] <d33wakar> does anyone know whaht might cause this
[04:09] <escott> d33wakar, thats either because they arent signed or are signed with a key that is not recognized
[04:09] <escott> d33wakar, which one is it?
[04:10] <d33wakar> escott it asks for every single of them
[04:10] <riz0n> OK So I am about ready to throw Ubuntu out. I set up a new ubuntu 12.04 LTS, copied all my files, spent hours getting dovecot to work, but when I try to send mail, it never delivers, if I try to send mail *through* the server, it just asks for authentication. So I went to the OLD server (running 10.04) and tried to do a "package update"... I thought that Ubuntu was supposed to update to the
[04:10] <riz0n> newest LTS when it came out? What is going on here?
[04:10] <d33wakar> and i can't install via software center
[04:10] <escott> d33wakar, and is it saying that the signing key (with some hex identifier ABCDE12345) is untrusted or is it just saying "this is unsigned"
[04:11] <newtoubuntu> reisio escott also could i just see somehow only see your messages without all the messages crowding my screen
[04:11] <newtoubuntu> reisio escott i'm using webchat.freenode.net
[04:12] <escott> newtoubuntu, its just lego blocks. you have X many lego blocks inside your D that you need to put outside your D. can you put them in the space where C is or not?
[04:12] <d33wakar> escott suppose i did sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[04:12] <reisio> escott: he said it was 200GB
[04:12] <d33wakar> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! libnet-daemon-perl libplrpc-perl libdbi-perl libdbd-mysql-perl mysql-client-core-5.1 mysql-client-5.1 mysql-server-core-5.1 mysql-server-5.1 libhtml-template-perl mysql-server
[04:12] <reisio> C being 40GB
[04:12] <riz0n> So let me ask. If I want to move all my files (including my EMAIL) from the old Ubuntu to the new Ubuntu install (Which is going to be on a new virtual machine) what do I need to do in order to get postfix to do its job?
[04:12] <newtoubuntu> escott understood
[04:12] <reisio> newtoubuntu: that'd be pretty hard, I think, to hide everyone else :po
[04:13] <wolfgang> I am trying to run a minecraft server with the jar from minecraft.net and it won't work what do i do?
[04:13] <reisio> wolfgang: make it work
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang: what does it output? Which java are you using?
[04:13] <newtoubuntu> reisio ok be back in a few
[04:13] <escott> reisio, he didnt specify if that was data size or partition size. if its a 160GB partition with 5GB of files he is fine
[04:13] <wolfgang> ActionParsnip, sun java 6
[04:13] <konj1980> any other chat rooms
[04:14] <escott> d33wakar, im not sure why those wouldnt be signed. are you using some kind of PPA?
[04:14] <konj1980> around
[04:14] <dr_willis> konj1980:  this server has thousands of rooms
[04:14] <dr_willis> !alis | konj1980
[04:14] <wolfgang> Actionparsnip, Is that bad?
[04:15] <d33wakar> escott yes i've added some
[04:15] <reisio> escott: he did :p
[04:15] <riz0n> what is "TLS?"
[04:16] <wolfgang> Actionparsnip, it runs but Not sure if it works it also doesn't creat all the docs its supposed to.
[04:16] <wolfgang> ActionParsnip, do you know what to do?
[04:16] <dr_willis> riz0n:  in what way do you mean tls?  or do you mean Ubuntu LTS?
[04:17] <escott> d33wakar, if those packages are coming from the PPA that could be why
[04:17] <wolfgang> ActionParsnip, hello?
[04:17] <JohnTeddy> So I have this HP printer with Wifi, and I want to connect it to my network over Wifi. Though it only lets me use WPS to connect it if my Wifi AP is encrypted. My Wifi AP doesn't support WPS (thankfully). How can I setup the network on this printer over USB ? (it has no RJ45/wired network)
[04:18] <konj1980> the only chat i see is #ubuntu ?
[04:18] <konj1980> help
[04:18] <taipres> how can I tell if a package is installed?
[04:18] <konj1980> help
[04:18] <FloodBot1> konj1980: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:18] <wolfgang> ActionParsnip, Hello?
[04:18] <reisio> taipres: dpkg -l | less
[04:18] <physically_fit> konj1980, what's your question?
[04:18] <escott> konj1980, /join #channel-name
[04:19] <taipres> reisio thanks
[04:19] <wolfgang> ActionParsnip. you there?
[04:19] <taipres> how can I check for an individual package
[04:19] <taipres> like php5
[04:19] <dr_willis> JohnTeddy:  you might need to  plug it in to a windows box. and run any hp tools it comes with to configure the wireless side, then unplug the usb.
[04:19] <taipres> does apt-get have an option?
[04:19] <reisio> taipres: dpkg -l | grep -i php
[04:19] <wolfgang> reisio, do you know what to do?
[04:20] <reisio> wolfgang: yes
[04:20] <skyl> what motherboard/sound/graphics should I get, toppish of the line, 100% supported?
[04:20] <reisio> skyl: toppish?
[04:20] <reisio> skyl: what are you going to do with the computer?
[04:20] <escott> !poll | skyl
[04:20] <wolfgang> reisio, what?
[04:20] <reisio> wolfgang: hrmm?
[04:21] <konj1980> man how does one see all the channels that exist
[04:21] <wolfgang> reisio, Are you being a jurk on purpose?
[04:21] <konj1980> on here
[04:21] <reisio> wolfgang: huh?
[04:21] <dr_willis> !alis | konj1980
[04:21] <reisio> konj1980: /msg alis list *something*
[04:21] <skyl> reisio, some OpenGL and some realtime sound will probably be the most tricky things
[04:21] <reisio> skyl: probably your average $300-$400 computer from BestBuy would suffice, and they have a decent return policy, IIRC
[04:22] <wolfgang> reisio, I am trying to run a minecraft server with the jar from minecraft.net and it won't work what do i do?
[04:22] <reisio> wolfgang: what does it say when you run it from a terminal?
[04:22] <skyl> reisio hrm *probably* .. nah, spin the wheel of fortune and get some crappy unsupported graphics
[04:22] <wolfgang> How do i run it from terminal?
[04:22]  * dr_willis wonders if the minecraft homepage has a  faq on getting it running...
[04:23] <alan502_> Help please :D even though I have configured squid with the proper acl, I keep getting "access denied" messages on the computers I try to access squid to? Here is my squid configuration, the ifconfig output of both my host and client computer and the error displayed by the client: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1043420/
[04:23] <reisio> skyl: like 95% probably
[04:23] <reisio> skyl: it's simple enough to scope out the hardware specs and look them up online before purchase, though
[04:23] <reisio> skyl: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ has some specific models
[04:23] <reisio> skyl: http://google.com/ has most of the rest
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang: not something i use but its more info for others
[04:24] <reisio> wolfgang: probably: java -jar path/to/file.jar
[04:24] <reisio> dr_willis: faq is probably in a java applet :p
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> JohnTeddy: can you ping the printer?
[04:25] <dr_willis> minecraft plugin for the browser.. 3d worlds on the web.. oh wait.. wasent that vrml? ;P
[04:25] <osirisx11> help! service stuck during dist upgrade, i did xkill on the stuck updater and tried to start a new partial upgrade to repair and pick up where i left off but now it doesn't recognize my password!
[04:25] <reisio> don't say vrml :/ :p
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> osirisx11: boot to root recovery and do it there
[04:25] <dr_willis> everything old is new again.  ;0
[04:26] <osirisx11> ActionParsnip: will i be able to log in? concerned over it forgetting my password and encrypted home directory
[04:26] <dr_willis> I have to wonder what in the updater was messing weith the passwords..
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> osirisx11: home isn't needed for upgrades
[04:26] <dr_willis> osirisx11:  when in doubt.. backup imporntant stuff first
[04:27] <skyl> reisio, I'm looking at motherboards with onboard video and sound, skeptically; but, you think that the sound and video are likely to be well supported?
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> osirisx11: and /root (by standard) is in the rootfs in its own folder so you can do stuff in recovery :)
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: should have a backup anyway ;)
[04:27] <dr_willis> skyl:  most all sound is onbord these days.  you just dont hear much about people spending extra for soundcards any more
[04:28] <reisio> skyl: yes, but you can also get dedicated video hardware for the cost I already mentioned
[04:28] <reisio> skyl: most people that aren't audio producers don't need dedicated audio
[04:28] <dr_willis> skyl:  go to best buy - see whats on sale. use your phone to check the forums and askubuntu about each model and any  issues others have had with it.
[04:28] <reisio> it's just so massively more than what most people need is all
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> reisio: but still buy audigys to play games, never got that..
[04:28] <reisio> well go to bestbuy.com and check the featured sales first
[04:29] <reisio> no point driving when you can sit on your bum
[04:29] <reisio> ActionParsnip: some gamers are rich goobers :p
[04:29] <reisio> with their $150 LED-tricked-out domed key keyboards
[04:29] <dr_willis> reisio:  unles syou get lucky and find a nice box on theeir clearance rack. ;) like i did.. saved me $200
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> reisio: hehe, not heard that in ages
[04:29] <skyl> are you guys shills for best buy?
[04:29] <reisio> dr_willis: don't think ours have clearance racks
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> reisio: oh yeah, the optimus keyboard
[04:29] <reisio> ActionParsnip: hahahah
[04:30] <wolfgang> reisio, wolfgang@Muffin:~$ java -jar Home/Desktop/Minecraft-server minecraft_server.jar
[04:30] <wolfgang> Unable to access jarfile Home/Desktop/Minecraft-server
[04:30] <wolfgang> wolfgang@Muffin:~$
[04:30] <reisio> type on the best $1500 keyboard your fingers will hate
[04:30] <dr_willis> reisio:  :) found an identical pc 'opened box' to one on the shelf.. saved $  no idea why they had 2 open
[04:30] <reisio> wolfgang: sounds like you forgot a /
[04:30] <wolfgang> reisio, ok
[04:30] <reisio> dr_willis: they're clowns is why :p
[04:30] <reisio> there's no competition here anymore, just BestBuy
[04:30] <reisio> well Wal-Mart, but they don't have as much of a selection
[04:30] <wolfgang> reisio, where?
[04:30] <skyl> I have a case that I plan to put a new motherboard in ... was thinking fry's ;p
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> reisio: just home build :)
[04:30] <reisio> bumsville FL
[04:31] <dr_willis> wolfgang:  CASE is imporntant in linux. and getting the proper pathcorrect is also imporntant. ;)
[04:31] <reisio> ActionParsnip: takes work and time
[04:31] <reisio> lot of time, if you don't want to pay more
[04:31] <dr_willis> wolfgang:  it wwould be  /home/ not Home
[04:31] <flustered> is there someone around here who would be available to help me figure out a broken installation?
[04:31] <wolfgang> ok
[04:31] <reisio> but in general I agree :D
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> reisio: not too long though, most onboard stuff takes care of a lot now
[04:31] <wylde_> anyone good with bash care to have a peek at and make suggestions on a script? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~james-plate/+junk/ubu-irc-log/view/head:/ubu-irc-logs First script ever longer then 2 lines.
[04:31] <dr_willis> wolfgang:  and thepath to your users Desktop would be /home/yourusername/Desktop
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang: note capital D for Desktop
[04:32] <skyl> I want to get some ridiculous hardware that will crank out webgl and whatever like nobody's business; but, the most important thing is maximum convenient support on ubuntu
[04:32] <reisio> ActionParsnip: shmonboard!
[04:32] <JohnTeddy> dr_willis / ActionParsnip apt-get install hplip-gui did it. Apparently teh hplip comes with Ubuntu by default. Though it's CLI. So that gui let's you configure the wireless.
[04:32] <wylde_> dr_willis: could use /home/$USER/desktop no?
[04:32] <dr_willis> skyl:  look at the  linux built pc sites..
[04:33] <JohnTeddy> Sadly this functionality isn't built in to the native 'printers' section of Ubuntu.
[04:33] <newtoubuntu> reisio escott so, i'd like to keep 30gb of data, c: is 39gb, what's the best way to proceed- (1)i'd like to be able to reinstall windows if need arises at a later date, (2)keep the data safe, (3)not have to reformat  for a few years, specially if the need arises format only the os partition without messing with the data (4) update ubuntu seamlessly when new versions are released
[04:33] <JohnTeddy> It's a separate hplip thing, though it works great. I can basically configure everything, the gui is in qt and looks good too.
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | skyl
[04:33] <reisio> no I just mean, the deals you can get on a prebuilt box at a retailer, to get things at the same low price individually can take some patience
[04:33] <wolfgang> dr_willis, wolfgang@Muffin:~$ java -jar /home/wolfgang/desktop/Minecraft-server minecraftserver.jar
[04:33] <wolfgang> Unable to access jarfile /home/wolfgang/desktop/Minecraft-server
[04:33] <wolfgang> wolfgang@Muffin:~$
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> skyl: I suggest a mid range Nvidia and you'll be fine :)
[04:33] <dr_willis> wylde_ that would most likely confuse him more. ;0
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> reisio: i'm so tired I was about to sling that into duckduckgo, then my brain kicked in
[04:34] <skyl> I also want to do stupid stuff like compile webkit quickly and watch a video at the same time :D
[04:34] <wylde_> dr_willis: lol ok. Just thinking using $USER to make a cut n paste command
[04:34] <reisio> ActionParsnip: hah
[04:34] <dr_willis> wolfgang:  learn to use ther TAB key to get names and paths correct..
[04:34] <dr_willis> wolfgang:  its Desktop  not desktop...
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang: I DID tell you.....
[04:34] <flustered> I had a working installation of 12.04 on a ASUS u46E-BAL7, and after imaging the SD card for my R Pi and installing winders on my free partition, any form of linux won't boot without "nomodeset acpi=off"
[04:35] <dr_willis> wolfgang:  and you are missing a /
[04:35]  * ActionParsnip sighs
[04:35] <osirisx11> thanks guys
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> flustered: what video chip does the Asus use?
[04:35] <alan502_> How can i install a different version of squid on ubuntu?
[04:35] <dr_willis> !pin
[04:35] <reisio> skyl: that's not a big deal on even cheap modern hardware
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> flustered: and did you image from to Asus to the RPi to copy the OS etc
[04:36] <flustered> ActionParsnip: it has a integrated Intel HD chip, i7 Sandybridge
[04:36] <reisio> skyl: $300-400 can easily get you a >2GHz 64-bit dual core with virt extensions, 4GB RAM, and dedicated graphics
[04:36] <reisio> skyl: probably with a monitor
[04:36] <flustered> ActionParsnip: I used the recommended imager for the R Pi from the Asus
[04:37] <skyl> reisio you've never compiled webkit?
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> flustered: i see
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> skyl: why would you?
[04:37] <newtoubuntu> reisio escott itching to install... guide me please
[04:37] <reisio> skyl: are you suggesting I haven't compiled webkit because it makes any computer crawl?
[04:37] <newtoubuntu> escott
[04:37] <flustered> ActionParsnip: the thing that gets me, is it worked before - and not it doesn't with three different linux distros (two kernels, 2.6.something and 3)
[04:37] <reisio> newtoubuntu: was waiting for escott to say something
[04:37] <escott> newtoubuntu, so (1) we cant say much about. you just have to have a windows install disk. (3,4) seems you are describing a separate /home. I would (a) boot the install cd and try ubuntu (b) remove the windows partition (C:) (c) create a new ext4 partition in the free space (d) move your data from (D:) into that partition. (e) verify you have everything (f) delete (D:) (g) create a small partition  for ubuntu where (D:) started (h) instal
[04:37] <escott> l ubuntu to that partition as the / (i) you can use the (C:) partition as your /home or create a /home after the ubuntu / partition and move the data a second time leaving what was (C:) blank in case you ever want to reinstall windows
[04:37] <reisio> ...
[04:37] <reisio> christ almighty
[04:37] <skyl> reisio no b/c 8 cores is going to be way faster than 2 ...
[04:38] <flustered> ActionParsnip: and there is nothing in the logs
[04:38] <reisio> skyl: what does '8 > 2' have to do with whether I've compiled webkit or not?
[04:38] <skyl> ActionParsnip I'm not a liberty :D
[04:38] <escott> newtoubuntu, i need to sleep, but hopefully that makes sense
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> flustered: the display timings are in the kernel now
[04:38] <wolfgang> reisio, It's running but wont create all the text files to set it up, what do i do?
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> flustered: have you tried lucid, to test
[04:38] <reisio> wolfgang: find an error message
[04:38] <skyl> *at liberty
[04:38] <wolfgang> reisio, what?
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> skyl: at liberty what?
[04:39] <flustered> ActionParsnip: yeah, I've run lucid, pangoline, mint 12, mint 12 LMDE
[04:39] <n-iCe> Maybe a dumb question, is it possible ot modify a .iso distro ? I mean I have installed a distro but did a lot of modifications, desktop, menu, packages, etc, is there any way to create a whole .iso of my current system? thanks in advice.
[04:39] <flustered> no dice
[04:39] <wolfgang> reisio, what error?
[04:39] <reisio> wolfgang: error _message_
[04:39] <abhitest> escott: ActionParsnip i tried to do sudo grub-install and also i tired grub repair software. which gives this link for refernece http://paste.ubuntu.com/1043425/ but now i get error device not found instead of the grub screen help please
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> flustered: very weird, are there guides online how to install Ubuntu, like on youtube
[04:39] <dr_willis> wolfgang:  could be theres some  extra options or commands you need to gt it going.. you have checked gthe minecraft homepage docs and forums?
[04:39] <reisio> n-iCe: short answer: yes
[04:39] <abhitest> escott: ActionParsnip now i am in beta ubuntu in external hdd
[04:39] <skyl> ActionParsnip to tell you why I would compile webkit while playing webgl and watching a video and running various cpu-hungry code
[04:39] <flustered> ActionParsnip: complete with a wipe of the hdd to ensure it wasn't something to do with the hardware after dd did it's magic with the R Pi
[04:40] <wolfgang> java -jar /home/wolfgang/Desktop/Minecraft-server/minecraft_server.jar
[04:40] <wolfgang> 182 recipes
[04:40] <wolfgang> 27 achievements
[04:40] <wolfgang> 2012-06-15 21:37:22 [INFO] Starting minecraft server version 1.2.5
[04:40] <wolfgang> 2012-06-15 21:37:22 [WARNING] To start the server with more ram, launch it as "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar"
[04:40] <wolfgang> 2012-06-15 21:37:22 [INFO] Loading properties
[04:40] <FloodBot1> wolfgang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:40] <wolfgang> 2012-06-15 21:37:22 [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on *:25565
[04:40] <wolfgang> 2012-06-15 21:37:22 [INFO] Preparing level "world"
[04:40] <abhitest> :-(
[04:40] <flustered> ActionParsnip: I've installed and used many flavors of *nix, but this flusters me
[04:40] <newtoubuntu> escott just one more thing- how to separate /home and why? will the c: space finally merge with the bigger drive
[04:40] <dr_willis> wolfgang:  could also be yoou need to be IN the  minecraft dirctory to run it
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> skyl: I use chrome, its a webkit based browser, but why would compiling it do something I can't already do?
[04:40] <flustered> ActionParsnip: it also bugs me that my windows install was fine, my R Pi was fine and grub had no complaints
[04:41] <skyl> I have 64-bit, 2 cores, 2 gigs and some old ATI-cruft and I can easily put a hurting on it
[04:41] <reisio> newtoubuntu: the most straightforward way to deal with the problem of D files would be to copy them over the network to your other computer, then later copy them back
[04:41] <abhitest> dr_willis: can you please help me? i tried to do sudo grub-install and also i tired grub repair software. which gives this link for refernece http://paste.ubuntu.com/1043425/ but now i get error device not found instead of the grub screen help please
[04:42] <skyl> ActionParsnip people compile webkit all over the world everyday. Okay, switch "compile webkit" to "compile qt" and you have the same problem of it taking forever ...
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> skyl: so you use it as a speed test...?
[04:42] <alan502_> Help please :D even though I have configured squid with the proper acl, I keep getting "access denied" messages on the computers I try to access squid to? Here is my squid configuration, the ifconfig output of both my host and client computer and the error displayed by the client: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1043420/
[04:43] <abhitest> O.o
[04:43] <Blue1> abhitest: this may/may not help:  http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> skyl: if you just want to max your cpu, just run:  yes > /dev/null      and it will chew the cpu lotsly :)
[04:44] <alFReD-NSH> Is there anyway that I can turn back my kernel to 3.2.0-23 and make sure it doesn't update to 3.2.0-24?
[04:44] <volti> anyone know how to control a desktop over ssh?
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> volti: it what sense?
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> !pin | alFReD-NSH
[04:44] <newtoubuntu_> reisio will the method suggested by escott lead to too many "fragments" or other issues? coz that is much faster than transfering data to another computer
[04:44] <volti> i know how to ssh -X and get the application window on my desktop to control it
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> alFReD-NSH: if you reboot and hold SHIFT, you can choose the older kernel
[04:45] <volti> i want to be able to control the applications on the other desktop
[04:45] <skyl> ActionParsnip, no, I actually want to compile qt really quickly while playing with webgl and running other stuff, etc
[04:45] <volti> and i dont want to use something like VNC
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> volti: is this for media playback?
[04:45] <riz0n> Uhm, I am lost, and really need some advice. I have copied my user directories from my old linux server over to my new new linux server 12.04. Dovecot lets me check my mail but when I try to send mail, it just sits and asks for authentication.
[04:46] <newtoubuntu_> reisio shit, my connection closed and i lost escott's guide
[04:46] <volti> partially, i checked on how to control VLC over the command line and it is pretty robust. now i want to expand it to further use with the desktop
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> riz0n: did you chown the data to your user?
[04:46] <skyl> obviously I'm not going to buy more hardware so I can pipe stuff to /dev/null more quickly and run infinite loops or whatever
[04:46] <riz0n> i did chmod
[04:46] <riz0n> but i have no idea what a chown is
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> volti: it also has a web interface, you can then control it with android devices too :)
[04:47] <wolfgang> dr_willis, i was in the directory using " cd /home/wolfgang/Desktop/Minecraft-server" then i ran it and it changed and al commands worked but still won't create the text files in that folder.
[04:47] <volti> oh snap! ill have to check that one out...
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> riz0n: chown is to change the ownership to the user on the destination PC
[04:47] <abhitest> Blue1: this step gives me error sudo chroot /mnt chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[04:47] <riz0n> this is what i done
[04:47] <riz0n> i created each user account using adduser
[04:47] <volti> what about the desktop in general? something like ssh -Y user@server gnome-panel?
[04:47] <flustered> ActionParsnip: any ideas how an install can break like that? If there isn't support for sandybridge (all the resources I've found are 2011 before sandybridge was supported) why would wit work for 3 weeks before dying?
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> volti: you can control transmission with webUI too (also has an android app)
[04:47] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: hang on
[04:47] <riz0n> and then i SCP'd into that account using the proper user/pass and copied the files into the home directory
[04:47] <Guest70259> hey how do you get the deviantart muro plugin onto linux? if anyone here has a deviantart account and uses a tablet to draw and stuff
[04:47] <skyl> ActionParsnip, but thanks for the link to the certified hardware
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> skyl: np dude
[04:48] <wolfgang> dr_willis, do you know the prob?
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> volti: http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20071108214134  has a command for x2x
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> !info x2x
[04:50] <wolfgang> dr_willis, do you know what to do?
[04:50] <thefluffyone> hey how do you get the deviantart muro plugin onto linux? if anyone here has a deviantart account and uses a tablet to draw and stuff
[04:50] <wolfgang> !minecraftserver
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> volti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/X2xHowto
[04:50] <volti> ActionParsnip: diggin on it now! thanks much...
[04:50] <wolfgang> ActionParsnip, do you know what  to do?
[04:51] <wolfgang> reisio, so you know what's wrong?
[04:51] <thefluffyone> hey how do you get the deviantart muro plugin onto linux? if anyone here has a deviantart account and uses a tablet to draw and stuff
[04:51] <newtoubuntu_> reisio i just feel elated to be on "irc" and "ubuntu"... although i knew about both things earlier, only now i'm jumping on to them
[04:52] <abhitest> Blue1: unfortunately my external hdd ubuntu is 32 bit and my main hdd is 64 bit. is there any other way to recover grub?
[04:52] <wolfgang> Please Help!
[04:52] <bazhang> wolfgang, with what
[04:53] <thefluffyone> hey how do you get the deviantart muro plugin onto linux? if anyone here has a deviantart account and uses a tablet to draw and stuff
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> thefluffyone: does it install in chrome/ium?
[04:53] <wolfgang> I'm trying to run a minecraft  sever i have ran it from terminal and every thing but it won't create all the docs to do it when i run it.
[04:53] <thefluffyone> hmm....good question let me check
[04:53] <newtoubuntu_> reisio also, i have downloaded the 64-bit version of ubuntu.. is that the right way to go?
[04:53] <riz0n> oh well. i give up.
[04:53] <bazhang> wolfgang, then ask in a minecraft channel
[04:53] <riz0n> i am going to format this virtual machine, and i guess, start all over tomorrow.
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> thefluffyone: try testing MORE than just one browser if you get browser issues
[04:54] <bazhang> !alis | wolfgang search here
[04:54] <wolfgang> bazhang, where do i find one?
[04:54] <wolfgang> ok
[04:54] <bazhang> wolfgang, look above
[04:55] <thefluffyone> its suppose to be downloaded onto my computer
[04:56] <wolfgang> bazhang, how do i do that?
[04:57] <bazhang>  /msg alis list *minecraft*          <--------- wolfgang
[04:57] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: um
[04:57] <thefluffyone> *gasp* I think i did it o3o it says it was supported for firefox but i couldnt find it
[04:57] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: depends on what your processor is
[04:57] <wolfgang>  /msg alis list *minecraft*
[04:57] <thefluffyone> maybe...
[04:58] <newtoubuntu_> amd athlon 64 x2 3800+
[04:58] <newtoubuntu_> reisio amd athlon 64 x2 3800+
[04:59] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: yup, amd64/64-bit
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> thefluffyone: all ok now?
[05:00] <zvcxasdfasdf> Is there a way to use OpenDNS with a domain to ssh into a Ubuntu 12.04 computer?
[05:00] <zvcxasdfasdf> I have been Googleing for a while and cannot find anything. :(
[05:00] <flustered> anyone have any ideas? I'll try just about anything except dd if=/ of=/
[05:00] <newtoubuntu_> reisio now back to the main thing - i lost escott's guide.... will the method suggested by escott lead to too many "fragments" or other issues? coz that is much faster than transfering data to another computer
[05:01] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: you want to transfer only 40GB instead of all of it and let the rest get deleted?
[05:01] <thefluffyone> im not sure ActionParsnip
[05:01] <newtoubuntu_> yes
[05:01] <newtoubuntu_> reisio yes
[05:01] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: that should work fine, did you have a solution for being able to reinstall Windows?
[05:02] <Metahias> i got 12.04 front screen mouse movement, but clicking and keyboard not responding. Almost as if its frozen while the mouse still moves freely.. takes a moment to work it lose (meaning i have to move the mouse around alot to get it to start registering my movement).
[05:02] <newtoubuntu_> reisio but then windows can't read ubuntu harddisk formats... can it?
[05:03] <newtoubuntu_> reisio yes, i have a windows 7 disk
[05:03] <elmariachiludo> did anyone saw alpj?
[05:04] <zvcxasdfasdf> Is there a way to use OpenDNS with a domain to ssh into a Ubuntu 12.04 computer?
[05:05] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: it can, some of them, with 3rd party utils
[05:05] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: probably won't need to, though
[05:06] <Metahias> Ok so it seems 12.04 needs to be nuked?
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> zvcxasdfasdf: if you have an openDNS account resolving your IP to a name, you can connect to that name on port 22 and it will hit your home router. Is that what you mean?
[05:06] <reisio> Metahias: ok?
[05:07] <hungray1> Hey guys....I am looking for an web browser based terminal (source code) that doesnt require a database and is free...can anyone help me out here?
[05:07] <hungray1> Also my brother says hi?
[05:07] <Metahias> i see alot of boot screen issues with it.
[05:07] <Metahias> alot of people seem to be getting similar front screen issues
[05:08] <reisio> hungray1: looking for a what now?
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> hungray1: do you mean so you can SSH from the terminal to a server?
[05:08] <flustered> hungray1: have you tried lynx?
[05:09] <reisio> Metahias: maybe a graphics driver issue
[05:09] <newtoubuntu_> reisio hoping i never have to reformat to windows on that computer... can you take me through the steps once more... and recommend specifics such as ext3 or ex4... how much swap? how to merge the data that will be on c: to the rest of the harddisk..is a separate data partition helpful
[05:09] <flustered> ah, re read that, nvm
[05:09] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: how much RAM does it have?
[05:09] <newtoubuntu_> 4gb
[05:10] <Metahias> Perhaps. I'd expect an nvidia 580gtx to be on the compatibility list.
[05:10] <newtoubuntu_> 2gb x 2 ddr2
[05:10] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: ext4, 4GB swap is pretty sane
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> Metahias: might need to xorg edgers update ppa (less fresh more stable)
[05:10] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: separate data partitions aren't like _actually_ helpful if you know what you're doing, but to a newbie they could help a tiny bit if you wanted to install a new OS or something
[05:11] <hungray1> reisio: I have my web server but not db access...looking for a way to upload some kind of terminal emulator for my tutorial. Actionparsnip: yes flustered: no, can you tell me more?
[05:11] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: mostly it'd be useful in this situation so you don't have to resize any partitions
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> hungray1: http://ssh-chrome.sourceforge.net/
[05:11] <Metahias> really i could care less im trying to play with the 30 bit color capability of the latest nvidia linux drivers. they supposedly support anything over series 8 chips.
[05:11] <newtoubuntu_> reisio didn't get the last bit
[05:11] <Metahias> 11.whatever will probably work.
[05:11] <reisio> hungray1: you don't have db access?
[05:12] <hungray1> Actionparsnip: is this an extension for a web browser?
[05:12] <hungray1> reisio: no. it is free hosting.
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> hungray1: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/pnhechapfaindjhompbnflcldabbghjo
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> hungray1: yes, for chrome
[05:12] <flustered> hungray1: I read your question initially as needing a terminal based web browser - which would be lynx - not a web browser based terminal
[05:13] <reisio> hungray1: so what do you want?
[05:13] <hungray1> Actionparsnip: that is great but I wanted something a bit more universal...
[05:13] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: having two partitions instead of one lets you keep your data more simply is all
[05:13] <hungray1> reisio: like...a javascript-written terminal emulator...
[05:13] <hungray1> if it exist..
[05:13] <reisio> hungray1: how would that help?
[05:13] <hungray1> reisio: I am writing a tutorial introducing people to ubuntu.
[05:13] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: in your specific case, not in general
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> hungray1: http://www.thewebhostinghero.com/tutorials/web-based-java-ssh-client.html
[05:14] <reisio> hungray1: and what does that have to do with db access?
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> hungray1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web-based_SSH
[05:14] <hungray1> reisio: I didn't know if I needed db access
[05:14] <crackerjackz> how do i remove a symlink?
[05:14] <reisio> hungray1: then let's assume you don't
[05:14] <reisio> hungray1: what then is the problem?
[05:14] <reisio> crackerjackz: rm
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> hungray1: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mressl/webshell/
[05:15] <crackerjackz> reisio: and it wont delete the files where it originates from right?
[05:15] <newtoubuntu_> reisio so, i start by "try ubuntu"... and then pester you for help?
[05:15] <hungray1> reisio: Actionparsnip found what I was looking for. Actionparsnip: thank you very much
[05:15] <crackerjackz> i dont want to lose my files
[05:15] <reisio> crackerjackz: right, try it with a new symlink first if you like
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> crackerjackz: your backups will protect against that
[05:15] <hungray1> reisio: thank you for trying
[05:15] <hungray1> bye everyone
[05:15] <volti> ActionParsnip: do you know where the .hosts file is for vlc
[05:15] <volti> ?
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> volti: gimme a sec
[05:16] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: or anybody here
[05:16] <volti> np
[05:16] <arooni-mobile> trying to get natural scrolling on my synaptics touchpad on ubuntu 12.04 (lenovo t420).  i followed http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/reverse-natural-scrolling-ubuntu-os-lion and installed naturalscrolling but as soon as the applet started my touchpad stopped working completely. ideas?
[05:16] <newtoubuntu_> reisio ok 10 9 8 7...
[05:16] <bazhang> arooni-mobile, installed from where
[05:16] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: I believe your plan is to: format C, copy the data you want to that new filesystem, then run the installer ('Something Else') and set what was C to be /home, and divvy up what had been D into / and swap
[05:17] <arooni-mobile> bazhang, the ppa it reccomends
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> volti: /etc/vlc/lua/http/.hosts
[05:17] <arooni-mobile> ppa:zedtux/naturalscrolling‘ to
[05:17] <bazhang> arooni-mobile, so contact the ppa maintainer, they're not supported here
[05:17] <crackerjackz> reisio: when i try rm -R it says too many levels of symbolic links
[05:17] <robertzaccour> How come in Unity I can't drag and drop something from one window into another? Is this a bug or just a common feature not added yet?
[05:17] <volti> aah forgot to do ls -A
[05:17] <volti> aah forgot to do ls -a
[05:17] <volti> ty
[05:18] <reisio> crackerjackz: who said anything about -R
[05:18] <reisio> robertzaccour: something like?
[05:18] <crackerjackz> reisio: rm says... /path/ is a directory
[05:18] <reisio> crackerjackz: rm symlinkname (no slash)
[05:18] <robertzaccour> reisio, files and folders
[05:19] <reisio> robertzaccour: from what to what?
[05:19] <robertzaccour> reisio, have 2 open windows, and can't drag and drop something from one to the other
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> volti: just add the line:    192.168.0.0/24     assuming that is your network addess and all hosts in your LAN will be able to control it
[05:19] <reisio> that's probably just a bug on your system
[05:19] <robertzaccour> Unity is the only DE in which it is impossible
[05:19] <crackerjackz> rm Rock/
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> robertzaccour: unity isn't a DE
[05:19] <crackerjackz> reisio: rm: cannot remove `Rock/': Is a directory
[05:19] <robertzaccour> for people like me that do a lot of video editing this is a big deal
[05:19] <DjThree> Hello!
[05:19] <Metahias> does 12.04 have any boot options?
[05:19] <robertzaccour> ActionParsnip, ok DE implementation?
[05:19] <reisio> crackerjackz: did I not just say something about omitting the slash?
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> robertzaccour: Unity is a shell, Gnome is the DE and Compiz is the WM
[05:19] <reisio> DjThree: hi
[05:20] <reisio> Metahias: yup
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> robertzaccour: the old shell was gnome-panel
[05:20] <crackerjackz> reisio: oooo sry i overlooked that
[05:20] <reisio> crackerjackz: :p
[05:20] <robertzaccour> well then the Unity shell doesn't support the drag and drop feature, but every other shell does
[05:20] <Metahias> can you enlighten me? +)
[05:20] <reisio> robertzaccour: kind of doubt that
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> robertzaccour: drag and drop from where to where?
[05:20] <voldyman> why does ubuntu forget the action assigned to the corner of the screen ?
[05:20] <Metahias> i assume it a finally timed keypress/.'
[05:20] <robertzaccour> ActionParsnip, files and folders from one open window to another
[05:20] <reisio> Metahias: try holding down SHIFT during bootup
[05:21] <Metahias> gracias
[05:21] <newtoubuntu_> reisio what is "/home"? i assume"/" is the os partition.. but d: is too big just for the os and swap... i'd like to do- say 30gb for the os, 4gb for swap, rest into a single drive for data (including the c:)or most for the data and some for alternative os... so basically 4 partitions
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> robertzaccour: does here from nautilus to another nautilus
[05:21] <robertzaccour> ActionParsnip, try from nautilus to anything else
[05:21] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: you could do that if you want
[05:21] <abhitest> Blue1: after doing that the grub takes me to grub promt and does nothing. help
[05:21] <robertzaccour> ActionParsnip, from nautilus to kdenlive or a web broser page
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> robertzaccour: never done that before, i'll try later. I'm at work now
[05:21] <robertzaccour> browser
[05:21] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: /home is kind of like C:\Users\ on Windows
[05:21] <newtoubuntu_> reisio but what is the wisest?
[05:22] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: it's where you put all your personal data by default, downloads, documents, etc.
[05:22] <robertzaccour> it just seems that such a basic and expected feature would've been impossible to leave out
[05:22] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: / is everything (or everything _else_ if you specify other mount points, such as /home)
[05:23] <reisio> robertzaccour: probably hasn't been
[05:23] <RedSocrates> robertzaccour: I'm unable to tell what you're trying to do. I just dragged and drop a file between nautilus windows, then to my desktop, then to a web browser, then to LibreOffice
[05:23] <reisio> robertzaccour: ^
[05:23] <RedSocrates> robertzaccour: All worked.
[05:23] <newtoubuntu_> so the partitions aren't actually separate but just a subsystem in the os?
[05:23] <Metahias> yeah its the graphic driver
[05:23] <newtoubuntu_> reisio so the partitions aren't actually separate but just a subsystem in the os?
[05:24] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: there's a filesystem hierarchy whether or not you have more than one partition
[05:25] <robertzaccour> RedSocrates, did you try dragging it to minimized windows or to an icon in the Unity panel to see if it would pop up that open app?
[05:25] <simplew> im using gnome  classic, and i have added an icon to the panel (or taskbar, dont know what the correct name), i drag it from the menu and i cant remove, can anyone tell me how is done?
[05:25] <silver_star_iri> Hi all
[05:26] <RedSocrates> robertzaccour: Yes. Dragging it to an icon in the Unity Panel opened it in that app. Dragging it to the icon of a minimized window brought it up in that program.
[05:26] <newtoubuntu_> reisio ok i'll cut the other os... just simply tell me how best to make a stable ubuntu system... if  that means no partitions
[05:26] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: you just need / and swap for a basic system
[05:26] <silver_star_iri> I could reach myserver by ssh , and I can ping the server ip . but it does not come up 184.107.183.242
[05:27] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: you can use your "C" area as /home if you want, fairly simply, or not and manage the data later
[05:27] <simplew> i right click over the icon i added to the panel and i cant remove it, also when right clicking in panel shows nothing
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> silver_star_iri: did you port forward port 22 on your router?
[05:27] <RedSocrates> robertzaccour: Sorry, by "Unity Panel" I meant the Unity Launcher
[05:27] <silver_star_iri> ActionParsnip: how I can find out ?
[05:28] <newtoubuntu_> initially i make c: "/home".. then can it be merged later with "/"
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> silver_star_iri: its a concious action
[05:28] <newtoubuntu_> reisio initially i make c: "/home".. then can it be merged later with "/"
[05:29] <silver_star_iri> ActionParsnip: I dont know ! it is down for more than 3 hours , but I can reach ssh
[05:30] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: if you like
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> silver_star_iri: I can hit the IP and get asked for credentials
[05:31] <newtoubuntu_> reisio i clearly don't know enough to decide
[05:32] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: decide what?
[05:33] <EvanED> Hi all, I'm having a problem. I have 12.04 LTS installed (though I'll admit I arrived here via strange means -- i think i may have inadvertently installed the server version, and later apt-got ubuntu-desktop). I get the LightDM screen, I try to log in, the screen turns black for a couple seconds, and it boots be back to the lightdm screen
[05:33] <EvanED> I can log on as the guest session
[05:33] <EvanED> And it has worked in the past. The other thing is I've been messing around with my window manager, but this applies regardless of the login option i choose, including recovery console.
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> EvanED: if you make a fresh user in CLI, can you log in as that?
[05:34] <EvanED> i'll admit i haven't tried that, though i probably should have
[05:34] <EvanED> one sec
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> EvanED: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and log in there
[05:35] <newtoubuntu_> reisio to keep it separate or "merge".. here's my final understanding --- one"/" and one swap... and somehow integrate "/home" into the main"/"..so that i can use ubuntu as intended
[05:35] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: you just tell the installer that "C" is to be "/home" and that's it
[05:36] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: or you can do it later, afterwards almost as simply
[05:36] <wootonius> hello all, quick question, besides using the "nomode" command while moving through setup is there any way to try and force ubuntu to use a generic video driver?
[05:36] <EvanED> (ActionParsnip) creating a new user doesn't work, surprisingly
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> wootonius: i believe there is a safemode vga option
[05:36] <EvanED> same behavior
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> EvanED: hmm, that is odd
[05:37] <EvanED> one sec i may have incompletely set up the user
[05:38] <newtoubuntu_> reisio but it'll continue to be a separate logical partition? specially when moving(cut and paste) from "/home" to "/"... it'll take time...
[05:38] <EvanED> (i logged in at a console and see "no directory, logging in with HOME=/" which doesn't sound good)
[05:38] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: "C" /home will be a separate partition, yes
[05:39] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: you'll want to reformat C as ext4, then rsync/cp over the data from D to what was C
[05:39] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: then start the installer, the rest can be done from there
[05:39] <Metahias> wootonius you might have some options in the boot options. any particular reason you wanna force a generic video driver?
[05:39] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: or you could rsync the data from D to your other computer over night and save yourself all this hassle
[05:40] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: and keep _all_ the data
[05:40] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: _and_ not deal with any partition resizing nonsense
[05:40] <reisio> ever
[05:40] <newtoubuntu_> reisio rsync?
[05:40] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: rsync -av foo bar, better than cp, resumes, other goodies
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> EvanED: or grsync for a pretty UI
[05:41] <EvanED> just got it
[05:41] <reisio> as long as it's on the install image
[05:41] <EvanED> new user can log in
[05:41] <reisio> otherwise you can explain to him how to install it :p
[05:41] <EvanED> (i did useradd instead of adduser...)
[05:42] <newtoubuntu_> reisio right until now i was sure ubuntu would be a breeze to use... but now i'm getting intimidated... i dont know what is rsync, cp
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> EvanED: I'd use that, but drop back to the terminal and run:  sudo usermod -a -G admin newusername     to put your new user in the admin group
[05:42] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: it is a breeze, your data and where it is, that's what's made it complicated
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> EvanED: obviously change 'newusername' for the actual name
[05:42] <EvanED> so one thing i note: who should own .Xauthority?
[05:42] <EvanED> my new user says "evan3 evan3"
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> EvanED: the user whose home it is in
[05:43] <EvanED> i'm pretty sure that when i looked for my broken user it says "root root"
[05:43] <reisio> how many evans do you need! :p
[05:43] <EvanED> evan2 was my bad attempt at making a new user, evan3 was my good attempt ;-)
[05:43] <EvanED> both will be short-lived
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> EvanED: sudo usermod -a -G admin evan3
[05:43] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: if you don't already have a backup system, you could go buy yourself an external hard disk, and solve your backup system problem _and_ your storage/data placement problem simultaneously
[05:44] <EvanED> man usermod
[05:44] <EvanED> wrong keyboard
[05:44] <reisio> newtoubuntu_: now I've got to take off :) have fun
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> EvanED: it adds the user t the admin group, so it can use gk/sudo
[05:44] <ksinkar> hey guys I have tmux installed on my latest ubuntu
[05:44] <ksinkar> 12.04
[05:44] <EvanED> i'm just gonna try removing this .Xauthority file
[05:44] <newtoubuntu_> reisio thank you verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyy much
[05:44] <EvanED> see if that helps
[05:45] <blag> i think I messed up my ~/.byobu/keybindings file, can somebody post theirs for me?
[05:45] <EvanED> ok seems like it worked
[05:45] <EvanED> yes, it did
[05:46] <EvanED> i wonder how i managed that
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> EvanED: I suggest you install desktop in future :)
[05:46] <newtoubuntu_> reisio don't know if i'd have continued on this ubuntu quest if you didn't patiently answer my probably stupid questions
[05:46] <EvanED> eh that was unrelated to my weird path to ubuntu
[05:46] <EvanED> thanks for your help though
[05:47] <newtoubuntu_> reisio see you on the other side of installation
[05:47] <EvanED> oh man, actually i know exactly how it happened i bet
[05:48] <alFReD-NSH> Anyone can help me http://askubuntu.com/questions/149443/ubuntu-hangs-on-booting-up-after-a-clean-install
[05:49] <EvanED> so i'm trying to switch to a different window manager, and have been messing with the config... i wanted to test it. on other computers i've done that with 'startx -- :1' to start a new x session, but that gave me an error about incorrect permissions. so rather than figure out why it did that exactly, i just tried again as root. (you can tell i have good root hygene here :-))
[05:49] <EvanED> didn't work, and i assume that's where the root-owned .Xauthority came from
[05:51] <volti> ActionParsnip: ty for the help. that was right on the money...
[05:53] <Nicekiwi> heyyy I installed the Nvidia driver, now KDE system settings only recognises one of my 2 monitors.. what do i do?
[05:53] <Nicekiwi> I need dual-screen, seperate X displays at the same res
[05:53] <jussi> Nicekiwi: ask in #kubuntu
[05:53] <diverdude> Hi, does anybody in here have a lenovo w520? If yes, what is the temperature of the cpu on your computer when doing normal desktop stuff?
[05:53] <volti> Nicekiwi: you can always try xrandr
[05:54] <volti> use xrandr -q
[05:54] <volti> to find the displays
[05:55] <volti> then to configure them do xrandr --output (output #1) --auto --output (output 2) --right-of (output #1)
[05:55] <volti> then to configure them do xrandr --output (output #1) --auto --output (output 2) --right-of (output #1) --auto
[05:55] <volti> or something to that effect, play with it and you will get the right settings
[05:55] <volti> once you have it set for the command just place that in the last line of your .profile and it will setup the displays when you log in...
[05:56] <volti> and its much easier then messing with Xorg.conf
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> volti: np dude
[05:58] <abeer> Hi, I want to get into a little bit of Ubuntu development, could someone here guide me a bit. I already have a small project in mind.
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> !contribute | abeer
[05:59] <mi3> !cookie | ActionParsnip :D
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> mi3: thanks :)
[06:00] <mi3> ~alexiade@unaffiliated/alexiadeath/x-983845 -----> why do I never get that ?
[06:00] <bazhang> mi3 ask in #freenode
[06:01] <mi3> bazhang, yeah, thanks
[06:01] <flowerpot> If apt upgrades a package whose application is currently in use, e.g. apache, is apache restarted or something during the process?  When will the new version start being used?
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: the installer will probably restart the service to load the new app into ram
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: if it isn't restarted the old version will still run
[06:02] <riz0n> I need some help with Ubuntu 12.04 and Postfix. When I try to send a message out, it says that my "none of the authentication methods are supported by your server"
[06:05] <riz0n> Or maybe one of you guys can tell me where I can find the "blank" Postfix file
[06:06] <Metahias> sweet 30 bit color support for consumer geforce products is confirmed. Over DVI-Duallink no less.
[06:07] <silver_star_iri> ActionParsnip: yes ip can ping ! but when you put it in browser it does not work, why ?
[06:08] <flowerpot> ActionParsnip, thank you! That makes sense.
[06:08] <flowerpot> ActionParsnip, is there a way to know which packages will restart a running process if they come across it?
[06:08] <flowerpot> I mean...which packages will trigger the installer to do that
[06:09] <diverdude> is it possible to make a bash script which starts up 2 different servers in 2 different terminalwindows?
[06:10] <zvcxasdfasdf> I figured out how to route my Dynamic IP to a domain name. I cannot figure out how to ssh with my external IP, though. :(
[06:11] <flowerpot> zvcxasdfasdf, if you know your public IP address, the incantation should be something like this: ssh user@1.2.3.4
[06:11] <flowerpot> zvcxasdfasdf, what are you having trouble with?
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: not sure, usually packages for services will stop and start automatically as part of postinst
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> zvcxasdfasdf: you'll need to port forward
[06:13] <zvcxasdfasdf> flowerpot, I have more than one computer on the network for one and I am trying to route the SSH through ssh.mydomain.com, but I cannot seem to connect to ti.
[06:13] <mi3> Our services upgrade and database prune --------------> what does that mean, ActionParsnip ?
[06:13] <zvcxasdfasdf> ActionParsnip, how exactly would I do that? I am completely new to port forwarding and have never done it.
[06:13] <flowerpot> ActionParsnip, do you know what determines whether the service will stop/start?  I'm curious to know if it's automatic for everything or if it requires special effort on the part of the package maintainer
[06:14] <Metahias> anyone know of any linux graphics programs that actually output 30 bit color?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> zvcxasdfasdf: depends on the router, it varys wildly
[06:14] <flowerpot> zvcxasdfasdf, so you're trying to ssh from outside your private network to a single host behind your router?
[06:14] <mi3> FloodBot1, ?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: i beleieve it always will
[06:14] <mi3> !database
[06:14] <zvcxasdfasdf> flowerpot, yes I am. That is exactly what I am trying to do.
[06:14] <mi3> !mark shuttleworth
[06:15] <mi3> YAYY
[06:15] <zvcxasdfasdf> ActionParsnip, do you know what ports I need to forward and I could look it up?
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> Metahias: I believe it uses 24bit which is the equivelant of Windows 32bit.
[06:15] <mi3> !ActionParsnip
[06:15] <mi3> xD
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> zvcxasdfasdf: for SSH you will use TCP/22
[06:15] <mi3> !computer
[06:15] <mi3> !ram
[06:15] <kubanc> what's a good wireless keyboard and mouse that's supported from ubuntu?
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | kubanc
[06:15] <flowerpot> zvcxasdfasdf, I assume your router uses NAT.
[06:16] <flowerpot> zvcxasdfasdf, you will need to set "something" up to work around that.
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: all routers use nat
[06:16] <flowerpot> ActionParsnip, do they?  What about the internet backbone routers?
[06:16] <mi3> !ikonia
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: ys, or it wouldn't work
[06:16] <mi3> !flood
[06:16] <mi3> !fedora
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> !botabuse | mi3
[06:16] <mi3> err
[06:16] <mi3> ok
[06:17] <mi3> ActionParsnip, could you see all tha ?
[06:17] <zvcxasdfasdf> flowerpot, I am using the default Comcast router. I have a Linksys Wireless Router.
[06:17] <mi3> *that ?
[06:17] <zvcxasdfasdf> mi3, everyone could
[06:17] <mi3> err I thought it was private !
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> mi3: yes
[06:18] <zvcxasdfasdf> mi3, only your social security number is. -------> See, XXX-XX-XXXX.
[06:18] <mi3> yeah, ok
[06:18] <mi3> I dont have an SSN, xD
[06:18] <Metahias> ActionParsnip: what used 24 bit?
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> Metahias: the colour depth
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> mi3: me neither
[06:19] <Metahias> ActionParsnip: You mean ubuntu? I have it confirmed set to 30 bit color
[06:19] <mi3> ActionParsnip, LOL
[06:20] <Metahias> ActionParsnip: Driver accepted it shows it as being in 30 bit color mode after reset.
[06:20] <Metahias> ActionParsnip: Now i just need something to test it with.
[06:22] <flowerpot> zvcxasdfasdf, one solution would be to ensure that the router is connected directly to the internet and then forward a specific port to your machine (keeping in mind that this will allow anyone to send packets to that port)
[06:22] <flowerpot> zvcxasdfasdf, how you set up port forwarding depends on your router
[06:24] <zvcxasdfasdf> flowerpot, I figured out where the portforwarding is, I just cannot figure out which application type to use. I think Telnet would be the closest to ssh.
[06:24] <Metahias> Im betting less than couple hundred interested people even know this is possible let alone tried to do it. course it serves no purpose to people without 30 bit color monitors. However 30 bit color monitors are coming down quickly and once people know they can get 1.1 billion colors instead of 16.5 million im sure they will want it just like me. =)
[06:24] <Metahias> And i just confirmed on consumer grade hardware what nvidia has been unwilling to confirm or deny.
[06:24] <flowerpot> zvcxasdfasdf, that's a good guess, but not quite right
[06:25] <flowerpot> zvcxasdfasdf, SSH uses TCP port 22.  It's possible your router might not have "SSH" listed as one of the protocols; that doesn't matter, just forward any old external-facing TCP port to your machine's port 22.
[06:28] <flowerpot> Metahias, personally, 16.5 million colors is more than enough for me
[06:28] <zvcxasdfasdf> flowerpot, Okay, I found the options. I juts have to figure out wich combination works for me. :)
[06:30] <riz0n> ok so I have broken down and decided to rewrite my postconf main.cf file. Here are a couple of things I need to know in relation to Ubuntu 12.04: #1: Do I need to uncomment one of the "alias_database" lines or does "NIS" properly take care of it? And #2, mail_spool_directory, do I need /var/mail or /var/spool/mail
[06:31] <Metahias> flowerpot: under most circumstances 16.5 million is perfectly fine, however and graphics get more complex they create overdraw which creates color difficulties essentially making it a chore to for the GPU to blend the colors. Also if you start seeing content at ultra high resolution in 30 bit color you will see a big difference. Particularly on gradiants.
[06:31] <flowerpot> zvcxasdfasdf, sounds good.  wish i could help more, but that kind of settings-related stuff is very specific to your own router etc.
[06:32] <flowerpot> Metahias, I don't doubt that your needs require such high numbers of colors, but for me I know mine do not
[06:34] <blank2> what are the recommended system requirements for Ubuntu 12.04
[06:34] <Metahias> flowerpot: Each jump might be more indiscernable than the last, like the jump from 65k to 16.5million was no where near as big a deal to most as the jump from 256 colors to 65k. Hell most of our cell phones are only 65k.
[06:35] <riz0n> In addition, in my old main.cf file, the "mailbox_command" was left blank. In the new main.cf.dist file, it says I need either /usr/bin/procmail or /usr/bin/procmail -a "$EXTENSION" ... are those neccessary or should I just leave them commented?
[06:35] <blank2> what are the recommended system requirements for Ubuntu 12.04
[06:35] <Metahias> flowerpot: However as technology advances (screens get larger and more tightly packed pixels, but also better contrast and brightness the limitations of 16.5 million will also come into focus.
[06:37] <flowerpot> blank2, I don't know, but you can test it using a livecd
[06:37] <flowerpot> blank2, what are you hoping to install ubuntu 12.04 onto?
[06:37] <flowerpot> workstation? server?
[06:37] <blank2> this http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/183260/NOTEBOOKS_15/Toshiba/PSK2ZA-008001.asp
[06:37] <FriendlySoviet> blank2, her ya go budddddy
[06:37] <FriendlySoviet> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[06:38] <FriendlySoviet> hahah
[06:38] <FriendlySoviet> yeah
[06:38] <FriendlySoviet> That will do just fine
[06:38] <blank2> thanks
[06:38] <flowerpot> blank2, so you don't have the hardware yet...  the most annoying parts are usually the video card and the wireless card
[06:38] <flowerpot> but nowadays it usually isn't much of a problem. if you want to check the requirements, check those, I guess
[06:38] <FriendlySoviet> Yes, what flowerpot said
[06:39] <FriendlySoviet> Though I haven't had a problem with any hardware in a long time
[06:39] <blank2> ok
[06:39] <FriendlySoviet> And according to this thread [http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/should-i-install-nvidia-geforce-gt-525m-driver-on-ubuntu-11-10-a-924760/]
[06:40] <FriendlySoviet> Everyone is using that graphics card just fine
[06:40] <FriendlySoviet> So you are clear for take off
[06:43] <riz0n> Any ideas? Do any of you guys use Postfix on your Ubuntu systems??? This is the *only* thing I don't have functioning on my server =(
[06:44] <flowerpot> riz0n, there's no reason postfix won't work with ubuntu
[06:44] <flowerpot> riz0n, what specific issue are you having?
[06:45] <Metahias> flowerpot: plus really the whole 16.5million color thing is really a misnomer. The actual number of different discernable colors in a 24 bit color system will not in fact be anywhere close to 16.5 million colors. The whole concept of 16.5million colors possible from 24 bits is not very precise. Each sub pixel (red, blue, green.) gets a an 8 bit value. which is capable of 256 possible levels of brightness (0-255) if all sub pixels are
[06:46] <serverboy> cd
[06:46] <riz0n> flowerpot: OK here is the problem. I have an aging Ubuntu server that I set up in 2008, running 8.04 LTS. I took the 10.04 LTS when it came out through synaptics. Well, as you can imagine, this drive is aging. I have a new system with multi-cores and RAID configuration and I have set up 12.04 in a virtual machine. I created the user accounts, then SCP'd the files over, I copied my bind9 files
[06:46] <riz0n> over (worked fine), copied my Dovecot files over (DID NOT WORK---rewrote and got it to work), and I copied my postfix files over/aliases, and when I try to send anything through the SMTP (Postfix) it just repeatedly asks for a password. So now I'm in the process of trying to re-write that file to fix it.
[06:48] <riz0n> I have 6 separate domains but I do not have email-specific accounts per domain (each email account on this server can "share" the domains or whatever)
[06:48] <Metahias> flowerpot: if all subpixels are 255 then you have brightest white. That 16.5mil colors all falls within those 3 colors and 256 brightness variations thereof. When you look at it through those terms you can see its no where near actually reproducing an analog of what your trying to represent in digital form.
[06:48] <riz0n> in fact most people have their gmails or whatever so I "alias" whatever account they want at their domain to the email address of their choice. But I use it as my primary source of email.
[06:49] <riz0n> btw Lotium is sending queries to people with explicit material. You guys should probably kb him.
[06:50] <JoseeAntonioR> riz0n: An ignore will work fine, don't worry.
[06:51] <riz0n> I unfortunately do not have the original "postfix" folder from a virgin 12.04 install because I erased it and replaced it. It would be nice if I could get that without having to spend an hour having to reinstall the Live CD
[06:51] <riz0n> or just know what values I need to put in this main.cf I have almost finished
[06:52] <riz0n> And I have also never done a "TLS" secure pop3s/imaps so if any of you have ever done that and would be willing to help me set that up, too, I would be forever grateful.
[06:53] <riz0n> All I know is that back in 2008 when I originally set this up, it was a piece of cake. It has run great for 4 years but I am taking "preventative measures" by replacing the aging hard drives before I have a total loss.
[06:54] <TwentySeven> Im new to Ubuntu. This seemed like a good place to go first
[06:55] <riz0n> This channel is *usually* great at giving superb help
[06:55] <sambagirl> is anyone using a iphone 3gs with 5.1.1 ?
[06:55] <TwentySeven> "Usually"?
[06:55] <TwentySeven> Is it not now? xD
[06:55] <riz0n> well nobody can seem to answer the missing pieces to the main.cf postconf puzzle I am working with ;P
[06:56] <JoseeAntonioR> TwentySeven: Sure it is! How can we help you? :)
[06:57] <TwentySeven> Honestly, I dont know if I need anything at the moment. Im incredibly pleased with Ubuntu. Im hoping that I can find a way to connect to Steams chat through empathy, but after some research online that looks unlikely as of right now
[06:57] <flowerpot> Do the people in this video look blue to you? I think my flash player is malfunctioning, becuase everyone looks like they're a member of the blue man group... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omFDTWF6aDI&feature=relmfu
[06:58] <riz0n> I am not running Ubuntu Desktop. I am running Ubuntu Server. I do not have a Gnome screen, everything I am doing is straight through SSH and WinSCP.
[06:58] <diluted> riz0n: same here... closet server with no mouse/keyboard/monitor
[06:58] <riz0n> I may at a a later date install Gnome and "NoMachine" just for fun.
[06:59] <jagginess> TwentySeven, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19444
[06:59] <riz0n> diluted: that is what I have, but the hard drive is quite old and I'm afraid it's going to quit spinning any day... I have all my web sites, mysql databases imported, dovecot functioning, everything but postfix smtp.
[07:00] <riz0n> its not relaying to local mail and its not checking the unix passwords list.
[07:00] <diluted> lol
[07:00] <diluted> i run 11.10 on a pentium II
[07:00] <riz0n> plus i was getting a lot of retarded spam through the old 10.04 and spamassassin, i'm hoping this "fresh" 12.04 install will eliminate that
[07:00] <riz0n> I was running 10.04 LTS from a P4 2.7GHZ 2 GB hyperx DDR
[07:01] <riz0n> Now I have 12.04 LTS running in VMWare on an AMD Phenom2 Quad-Core 4GB ram
[07:01] <diluted> i dual boot on this laptop tho, i just dont use this linux that much ;p
[07:01] <diluted> ohh at least u know how to make mail work
[07:01] <diluted> im retarded and can't figure some shit
[07:01] <TwentySeven> jagginess: thanks, man. Running configuration now.
[07:01] <TwentySeven> Hopefully I dont run into any problems
[07:02] <riz0n> This linux server runs 24/7 and hosts web sites, email, DNS server, the whole works
[07:02] <diluted> nice
[07:02] <diluted> ive really mainly been successful with a website for xbox 360 clan.
[07:02] <diluted> thats about it
[07:02] <diluted> well that and this bnc im on
[07:02] <diluted> i just installed znc and ive got a week ontime
[07:03] <riz0n> this config is only temporary. I have a dual-CPU Opteron that I have to order ram for. The reason I want it in a VM config is so that when I get that system going, I can copy the virtual machine files and start it up without having to go through all this torture of rewriting the conf files
[07:03] <riz0n> I don't host a lot of major web pages or anything, but it does save me from having to pay someone else to host my sites.
[07:04] <riz0n> I just need a little postfix advice is all ;)
[07:04] <diluted> right, i know the feeling
[07:04] <diluted> i use pico to make my website on top of it
[07:04] <diluted> basic html
[07:04] <corewillem_> helloeveryone
[07:04] <corewillem_> i have  a problem with my laptop
[07:04] <corewillem_> it doesn't give power to my mouse (usb)
[07:04] <jagginess> basic html is for losers.. you should go for jboss like a boss -- java servlets is king
[07:05] <jagginess> corewillem_, ? power you your mouse?
[07:05] <phibxr> corewillem_, do you have power in the BIOS-stage of the boot-process?
[07:05] <corewillem_> at booting it gives power but after booting not
[07:05] <corewillem_> yeah
[07:05] <corewillem_> i have till i log in power
[07:05] <corewillem_> (mouse works in login screen)
[07:05] <phibxr> corewillem_, that's spooky, and i'll be unable to help you further. :P
[07:06] <corewillem_> how cn it be that i have at login screen mouse fully working
[07:06] <jagginess> corewillem_, is it a high exotic mouse? (sometimes you can burn a profile in the mouse in these types of mice)
[07:06] <corewillem_> and in my desktop not
[07:06] <corewillem_> nope a simpel mouse from logitech
[07:06] <corewillem_> the simpelest mouse that you can have
[07:06]  * jagginess transforms corewillem_'s mouse into a powerrange
[07:06] <jagginess> corewillem_, usb or ps2?
[07:07] <corewillem_> usb
[07:07] <corewillem_> on my desktop it works fine
[07:07] <jagginess> corewillem_, ok.. then try to rename xorg.conf to xorg.conf_bak, then restart x..
[07:07] <corewillem_> kay
[07:07] <jagginess> ??
[07:07] <corewillem_> okay
[07:07] <jagginess> corewillem_, you're trying to use mouse in console?
[07:07] <corewillem_> nope :)
[07:07] <corewillem_> in gnome shell :)
[07:07] <corewillem_> (gnome 3)
[07:07] <jagginess> corewillem_, what do you mean "on my desktop it works fine" ?
[07:08] <corewillem_> in xfce it doesn't works also
[07:08] <corewillem_> on my other computer (a desktop)
[07:08] <corewillem_> it works fine
[07:08] <TwentySeven> Jag, is there any way to change the Logo and name of the application from wine to steam?
[07:08] <jagginess> TwentySeven, ya.. i think wine has a wizard to make the link for you.. somewhere..
[07:08] <corewillem_> and it worked on the laptop to but after reinstall not anymore
[07:09] <jagginess> corewillem_, maybe that desktop usb port is dead.. ?
[07:09] <corewillem_> how do you mean ?
[07:09] <jagginess> corewillem_ you tried antoher mouse on that port?
[07:09] <corewillem_> on my desktop it works fine ! but on my laptop it doesn't work anymore
[07:09] <corewillem_> yups also a external hardrive and a keyboard
[07:09] <jagginess> corewillem_, oh laptops..
[07:10] <jagginess> corewillem_, i've had a similar issue with a kvm-switch and a mouse..
[07:10] <corewillem_> nothing works on the usb ports
[07:10] <jagginess> corewillem_, but not a laptop.. i could be very much electronics clock signals are getting faint or some other ghost in the machine
[07:10] <corewillem_> i dont now
[07:11] <jagginess> corewillem_, did you try a bios update?
[07:11] <corewillem_> it works fine till i log in in the log in scren i can use my mouse
[07:11] <corewillem_> nope no bios updates becease the newest is already on it :)
[07:11] <jagginess> corewillem_, what model laptop is it
[07:12] <diluted> !version
[07:12] <jagginess> corewillem_, sometimes there are kernel boot parameters/module parameters for laptops
[07:12] <bryce> i am trying to install ubuntu studio but my hhd doesn't show up when i try to partition for install
[07:12] <corewillem_> yeah but it worked yesterday
[07:12] <corewillem_> but now i reinstaled the same version again
[07:12] <TwentySeven> I have a big penis
[07:12] <jagginess> !ops TwentySeven
[07:12] <corewillem_> and it doesn't work anymore
[07:13] <TwentySeven> Haha, totally wrong chat.
[07:13] <DJones> TwentySeven: We don't need to know that
[07:13] <TwentySeven> Derpity
[07:13] <jagginess> corewillem_, it does work.. it can be a bios bug, or you can try to force module option(possibly)
[07:13] <bryce> i want to put /boot swap and root on ssd and / home on hdd which is showing up as sdb in gpart.
[07:13] <TwentySeven> Dont judge my retarded tabbing skills
[07:13] <jagginess> !ops
[07:13]  * jagginess TwentySeven trolling
[07:13] <corewillem_> jaginess it's not a bios problem
[07:13] <jagginess> corewillem_, not saying it is..
[07:14] <corewillem_> it worked wel on the same version of ubuntu
[07:14] <jagginess> corewillem_, necessarily..
[07:14] <jagginess> corewillem_, did you try module options?
[07:14] <corewillem_> (xubuntu with gnome 3)
[07:14] <jagginess> corewillem_, kernel options?
[07:14] <corewillem_> module options ?
[07:14] <corewillem_> kernel options ?
[07:15] <jagginess> corewillem_, you didnt want to tell me your laptop model.. so i guess you'd already tried them..
[07:15] <jagginess> (i give up)
[07:15] <pandu> where's ActionParsnip ?
[07:16] <corewillem_> it can't be a laptop problem
[07:16] <corewillem_> because it worked yesterday on the same version
[07:16] <corewillem_> and after a reinstall not
[07:16] <nenko> hi
[07:16] <jagginess> corewillem_, well if you're not here for solutions or trying other things.. i dont see the point of discussing anything..
[07:17] <corewillem_> bios update isn't possible
[07:17] <corewillem_> beceause i have already the newest
[07:17] <jagginess> corewillem_, so what do you want?
[07:17] <corewillem_> maybe a magic comman do to power on the usb ports ;)
[07:17] <jagginess> corewillem_, no.
[07:18] <jagginess> corewillem_, do you know how long i've been using linux?
[07:18] <corewillem_> long ?
[07:18] <jagginess> corewillem_, long.
[07:18] <jagginess> corewillem_, 12 years.
[07:18] <corewillem_> thats long i use it 5 years
[07:20] <jagginess> corewillem_, where's the first places you can check for mousing info on any linux?
[07:20] <jagginess> corewillem_, you should know this..
[07:20] <corewillem_> in the terminal :)
[07:20] <jagginess> corewillem_, ya.. but where..
[07:21] <jagginess> corewillem_, 5 years and you don't know.
[07:21] <jagginess> corewillem_, i say you've used linux for less than a year..
[07:21] <corewillem_> xorg.conf ?
[07:21] <jagginess> no.
[07:21] <jagginess> nonononon.
[07:21] <corewillem_> jaginess i work with linux i don't solve so much problems
[07:21] <jagginess> corewillem_, i don't believe you've used linux for 5 years. that's total bs.
[07:22] <corewillem_> beceause i don't have so much problems :)
[07:22] <Myrtti> come on guys
[07:22] <corewillem_> how must i prove it for you ?
[07:22] <jagginess> corewillem_, what did i say at the beginning?
[07:22] <jagginess> corewillem_, X can start without an xorg.conf
[07:22] <corewillem_> hmm yeah
[07:22] <corewillem_> you said that
[07:22] <Studious_> hi ubuntu
[07:23] <corewillem_> but i used it for sure for 5 years i know 5th class in basic school ;)
[07:23] <Myrtti> keep to the support, and let's keep the positive attitude up rather than picking each other. this isn't the Ubuntu quiz channel
[07:23] <corewillem_> and now 3th highschool = 5 years
[07:24] <corewillem_> maybe i'm not a linux guru like you
[07:24] <JoseeAntonioR> Studious_: Hello! How can we help you?
[07:24] <corewillem_> but i don't have to be
[07:24] <corewillem_> i just use linux beceause it works nicly fast and stable
[07:24] <jagginess> corewillem_, no you don't. I don't think you can learn anything from me anyways..
[07:24] <hello> JoseeAntonioR: thank you!
[07:24] <jagginess> :)
[07:25] <corewillem_> i think i can
[07:25]  * jagginess is saddened there are really stubborn people on irc
[07:25] <corewillem_> i always want to learn
[07:25] <corewillem_> what's stubborn ?
[07:25] <jagginess> lol
[07:26] <corewillem_> (english is noth my main language i talk dutch)
[07:26] <jagginess> oh that explains it :)
[07:27] <CookieM_> corewillem_ use translate.google.com it is really helpful
[07:30] <diluted> i installed tcl with apt-get and i still keep getting
[07:30] <diluted> configure: error:
[07:30] <diluted> I can't find Tcl on this system.
[07:31] <wylde_> diluted: are you compiling something?
[07:31] <diluted> yes, eggdrop
[07:32] <wylde_> diluted: then you'll need tcl-version-dev  <----- the -dev is important
[07:32] <diluted> ok ty
[07:33] <wylde_> diluted: try using 'sudo apt-get build-dep eggdrop'
[07:33] <wylde_> diluted: should resolve all the dependencies.
[07:33] <diluted> ty!
[07:33] <diluted> ty very very much!
[07:34] <wylde_> diluted: np, although...you know there's an eggdrop in the repos?
[07:34] <wylde_> !info eggdrop
[07:34] <wylde_> oooo ignore me, it's source
[07:34] <diluted> thats okay, i know what im doing with the source even tho i couldnt figure that one out lmao!
[07:35] <wylde_> I used to have an eggdrop. Many, many moons ago. lol
[07:36] <diluted> i did that but still getting tcl system error
[07:36] <diluted> that it cant be found like i posted before
[07:36] <diluted> i installed the dev and did the build-dep
[07:36] <diluted> i hope i dont have to reboot it?
[07:38] <DarwinSurvivor> I just completely lost sound on my 12.04 system (system76 machine). I've tried speaker and headphones and multiple sound applications.
[07:38] <DarwinSurvivor> front AND rear outputs are both dead
[07:45] <mcloy> how to run a command by a specific user on every reboot (i want to run some services if system fails and reboots)?
[07:46] <morphias> mcloy, do you have a specific user you want to access or the root user?
[07:46] <abbasba> hi how can i disable auto login in ubuntu 12.4?
[07:46] <SpiritOF> morphias specific. sometimes root
[07:47] <morphias> SpiritOF, first you want to make a bash script with sudo in front of it
[07:47] <morphias> SpiritOF, then there is a file that is basicaly for when your ubuntu starts up and you either add it to that... or now there is an application that manages start up applications
[07:48] <SpiritOF> morphias whats the name of that file. and whats the name of that applications?
[07:48] <morphias> SpiritOF, let me look this stuff up real quick for you
[07:52] <SpiritOF> morphias are you there?
[07:53] <Symbi0nt|GER> has someone an idea why the text screen before and after loading ubuntu is white and unable to read the characters?
[07:54] <c0mrade__> I've installed ubuntu on a virtual machine.
[07:54] <Symbi0nt|GER> There are no letters, but chars displayed. I can't read the console output.
[07:54] <c0mrade__> But everytime I need to create a file or anything that requires priviliges I see an exception or Access Denied error. How can I log in as root to ubuntu?
[07:56] <DarwinSurvivor> !sudo | c0mrade__
[07:57] <c0mrade__> Okay but for example I am scanning a computer using a network scanning tool called nmap. Like nmap -sS -O 192.168.1.1
[07:57] <c0mrade__> I get the following error:
[07:57] <c0mrade__> You requested a scan type which requires root privileges.
[07:57] <c0mrade__> QUITTING!
[07:57] <FloodBot1> c0mrade__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:58] <Symbi0nt|GER> just use sudo ...
[07:58] <Symbi0nt|GER> as explaind
[07:59] <abbasba> how can i disable auto login. i have same problem with it(http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login) i follow answers but doesn't work
[07:59] <c0mrade__> Okay I use metasploit too.
[07:59] <c0mrade__> so when I am at the prompt.
[07:59] <c0mrade__> Like so msf> exploit
[07:59] <c0mrade__> It tells me I don't have priviliges.
[07:59] <c0mrade__> msf> sudo exploit
[08:00] <c0mrade__> sudo: exploit: command not found
[08:00] <c0mrade__> So what's the solution?
[08:00] <SpiritOF> how to run a command by a specific user on every reboot (i want to run some services if system fails and reboots)?
[08:02] <password> good day
[08:02] <pandu> Lady Gaga
[08:04] <WavyGravy> help
[08:04] <llutz> SpiritOF: put it into /etc/crontab
[08:04] <WavyGravy> i installed some package an its hiding all my window borders, i forgot the name of it
[08:05] <llutz> SpiritOF: "@reboot  username  cmd-to-run"
[08:10] <pengw> is it possible to make sound volume much louder ?
[08:11] <pengw> a sick move's default sound volume is too small
[08:12] <linuxsage> I installed fedora17  alongside ubuntu 11.04, seemingly fedora has taken over my burg  and leaves me with a plain old and boring theme, I've googled it and the only solution I get is to install fedora's bootloader in   /root partition, and not the  master MBR , but the thing is I already installed fedora on /dev/sda which I guesse is the master MBR , (the same partition I installed burg in) there a way I can recover burg without neces
[08:12] <quazimodo> erm
[08:12] <quazimodo> anyone know of a terminal emulator that can hold multiple terminal windowns inside it
[08:12] <quazimodo> like emacs
[08:13] <cchapman> quazimodo, tmux
[08:13] <llutz> quazimodo: screen
[08:15] <quazimodo> screen can put all 4 on 1 window?
[08:16] <cchapman> quazimodo, yes
[08:16] <Myrtti> quazimodo: terminator
[08:16] <quazimodo> Hrm thanks
[08:17] <DarwinSurvivor> Fixed it, somehow had only the HDMI out enabled (someone else in the family must have been "clicking" stuff again) :P
[08:19] <twoEnemy98> ''someday when we are wiser''
[08:28] <flaviu> .
[08:28] <flaviu> Hey
[08:29] <WavyGravy> i got some package installed, its hiding all my window borders. I cant remember the name. any thoughts?
[08:29] <flaviu> My resolution always resets after reboot. Running nvidia.
[08:29] <WavyGravy> i need to un-install it
[08:32] <chiu> hi guys!
[08:33] <Slart> WavyGravy: the process responsible for drawing windows bordes and such is called a "decorator". Try searching for that
[08:33] <psiklops> hi chiu
[08:33] <WavyGravy> yea :/
[08:33] <Slart> WavyGravy: I think there is a log of installed packages as well.. might be useful if you know when you installed it
[08:33] <WavyGravy> hour ago
[08:34] <WavyGravy> how can i view the log
[08:34] <Slart> WavyGravy: try tail /var/log/apt/history.log
[08:34] <MaWaLe> WavyGravy:  you can view the history of installed packages on software center
[08:34] <blag> how can i get a list of all logged in users - logged into the gui or remotely via ssh?
[08:34] <WavyGravy> ok
[08:35] <psiklops> blag, $  who
[08:35] <Slart> WavyGravy: or perhaps better, less /var/log/apt/history.log and then press G (capital G)
[08:36] <MaWaLe> blag:  "man who" for more details
[08:36] <WavyGravy> k
[08:36] <psiklops> ^^^ ;-)
[08:37] <flaviu> My resolution always resets after reboot. Running nvidia. Help please?
[08:37] <WavyGravy> >:)
[08:38] <gigix> flaviu, what card, what version of ubuntu, what driver ?
[08:39] <flaviu> gigix: 8600GS, Ubuntu 12.04, nVidia Driver
[08:40] <gigix> flaviu, did it work ok with the nouveau driver ?
[08:40] <flaviu> it did
[08:42] <gigix> flaviu, why not sticking with it then ?
[08:42] <flaviu> gigix. No HW acceleration, without it, you can't call it computer
[08:43] <psiklops> gigix, do you set resolution entry in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[08:43] <gigix> flaviu, unless you want to play games with your 8600, you don't need the proprietary driver tbh
[08:43] <flaviu> gigix. I am getting edid error in xorg.0.log. I tried to bypass the with loads of options, but I always get one about DPI, after that, it sets the refresh rate to 60
[08:43] <flaviu> gigix. I don't want to play games, hd movies
[08:44] <SpiritOF>  how to run a command by a specific user on every reboot (i want to run some services if system fails and reboots)?
[08:44] <flaviu> The open source driver is ....
[08:44] <fasta> Is there a desktop search program which works efficiently with inotify support, etc.?
[08:44] <Slart> SpiritOF: use sudo in one of the rc.d files?
[08:44] <psiklops> flaviu, ^  did you set resolution entry in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[08:45] <gigix> flaviu, the open source driver runs very fine for old hardware, Nvidia does not care about your old 8600 on the other end...
[08:45] <Nicekiwi> yo.. i installed LAMP with this tutorial, but at the end localhost/phpmyadmin didnt point to phpmyadmin, i just got 404. --> http://www.unixmen.com/install-lamp-with-1-command-in-ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat/
[08:47] <gigix> flaviu, there's a small section on this problem here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, have you tired it ?
[08:47] <flaviu> gigix. The G81 cards are supported, even the 6k series.
[08:47] <flaviu> psiklops; yes :|. I'm using the vga cable and I think that's the problem
[08:47] <bkerensa> Nicekiwi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin
[08:48] <psiklops> flaviu, http://www.forsaleseused.com/content/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-904-geforce-8600m-gs-notebook
[08:48] <bkerensa> Nicekiwi: The phpmyadmin paths probably didnt get added to the apache.conf properly go to that wiki and follow the steps for the 404
[08:49] <flaviu> psiklops: Thanks, but trust me, I know how to set it up, I think it's not software related. Also, it's not a laptop :)
[08:49] <psiklops> flaviu, ok
[08:51] <sulaiman> Hi
[08:51] <gigix> flaviu, what about the link to the ubuntu documentation ?
[08:52] <flaviu> gigix, thanks, but my answer is not there. Searched the web like crazy, There's no solution for VGA, I guess
[08:53] <NimeshNeema> -rwxr-xr-x 1 nimeshneema nf 1.4K Jun 14 18:24 about.html*
[08:53] <NimeshNeema> What does * in front of about.html indicates ?
[08:53] <NimeshNeema> in ls listing
[08:53] <sulaiman> I am trying to transfer files from my ubuntu machine to my samsung galaxy 2 tab, my tablet is automatically detected by ubuntu, but when I attempt to transfer files, I get an error, "Error writing file: -108: No such file or directory"
[08:54] <Nicekiwi> bkerensa: yay works now :) thanks you
[08:54] <bkerensa> Nicekiwi: No problem
[08:57] <gigix> flaviu, it's weird, I've got a similar machine at work and the only thing I did was to use nvidia-settings to set-up my resolution on mu dual-monitor config, save it to a new /etc/X11/xorg.conf and that was it
[08:58] <gigix> otherwise using the nouveau driver was also fine with me
[08:58] <flaviu> gigix. vga cable?
[09:03] <gigix> flaviu, not sure if VGA or DVI :S
[09:03] <stat_vi> NimeshNeema: * is appended to executable files when using ls -F
[09:05] <psiklops> flaviu, if you can translate this page, it could be of help: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=511461
[09:09] <gigix> flaviu, no solution proposed on this page
[09:09] <bars0_> join #bash
[09:10] <flaviu> mhh guys. Thanks for trying to help. I have to leave :)
[09:13] <Cottus> i' searching for a calculator which will calculate " 2 3 sin x" as 2*3*sin(x)
[09:16] <cyrus82> hello! i just installed 12.04 and now have much trouble with my usb keyboard. sometime keyboard events are not send. (key releases or presses). are there known bugs?
[09:18] <Hyphen1234> I installed 12.04 server on a machine while it wasn't connected to the network. now that I have it on the network, is there any easy way to make it autoconfigure the network like it would have during installation?
[09:20] <franco1> !list
[09:20] <MonkeyDust> Hyphen1234  do you want a static local IP adres?
[09:20] <Hyphen1234> MonkeyDust: dhcp would be fine. when I run dhclient nothing happens
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> Hyphen1234  networkmanager should do the job - nm-applet
[09:22] <Raji> I want to know why this error is showing sudo: /var/lib/sudo writable by non-owner (040775), should be mode 0700
[09:22] <Raji> What i ahve to do to remove this
[09:22] <Hyphen1234> MonkeyDust: nm-applet doesn't appear to exist on my system. because it's the server version i'd guess
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> Hyphen1234  correct, you said it's server
[09:24] <MonkeyDust> Hyphen1234  type cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit and paste the url in the channel, so we can see
[09:24] <Hyphen1234> hm it's only got lo
[09:25] <Hyphen1234> i cant pastebin it easily because the machine is not on the network ;)
[09:25] <llutz> Hyphen1234: does "ifconfig -a" list an eth0?
[09:25] <leoleen> hey there how do you install themes on ultimate edition 3.2?
[09:25] <Hyphen1234> yes it does llutz
[09:26] <jonathon> Can anyone recommend a good C++ IDE for ubuntu?
[09:26] <llutz> Hyphen1234: then add 2 lines to /etc/network/interfaces: 1. " auto eth0" 2. "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[09:26] <gigix> jonathon, eclipse ?
[09:26] <jonathon> gigix, I'll check it out, thanks
[09:26] <llutz> Hyphen1234: "sudo ifup eth0" should bring network up then
[09:26] <leoleen> jonathon install code blocks, I use it for C
[09:27] <franco> !list
[09:27] <jonathon> I'll try em both out
[09:28] <leoleen> hey there how do you install themes on ultimate edition 3.2?
[09:28] <Raji> I want to know why this error is showing sudo: /var/lib/sudo writable by non-owner (040775), should be mode 0700 what to do to resolve this issue
[09:28] <danieltree> I have several kernels installed ..how can I make my nvidia driver work will all of them ?
[09:28] <Hyphen1234> llutz: i did that and it's hanging after sudo ifup eth0
[09:29] <llutz> Hyphen1234: but you have an dhcp-server active on the net?
[09:29] <MonkeyDust> Hyphen1234  sure the network card is ok?
[09:29] <Hyphen1234> llutz yes it's the router i'm using right now. MonkeyDust: pretty sure, I used it a year ago and it was fine and the machine has been sitting in the corner since then
[09:30] <llutz> Hyphen1234: "sudo ethtool eth0|grep detected"
[09:30] <daze> I'm using compiz-decorator for window decoration (Ubuntu 12.04, Gnome). Is there a way to make the menubar (File, Edit, Help) visible at all times for _some_ applications? Now it's only visible when you hover over the title.
[09:30] <Hyphen1234> i ctrl-ced it and tried ifup eth0 again and now it works. sweet. thanks llutz and MonkeyDust
[09:30] <leoleen> how do you share an internet connection with a router when you are connected to the internet using a 3g modem?
[09:33] <llutz> Raji: if you cannot use sudo now, you have to use live-cd or recovery-mode and set "sudo chmod 0700 /var/lib/sudo"  (mount your installation somewhere if you use a live.cd)
[09:34] <Raji> llutz: Thank u sir
[09:34] <rigved> hi everyone. which channel should i join to ask about Ubuntu App Development?
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> rigved  offtopic: http://www.muktware.com/3698/canonical-organises-contest-ubuntu-apps
[09:36] <rigved> MonkeyDust: ya i know about that! ;) which is the IRC channel for questions related to app development on Ubuntu?
[09:37] <bkerensa> rigved: you might join #ubuntu-devel
[09:37] <bkerensa> rigved: if you have questions about the contest however you could ping someone from the Ubuntu Community Team like mhall119
[09:39] <rigved> bkerensa, MonkeyDust: ah. found it. it's #ubuntu-app-devel. thanks!
[09:39] <rigved> bkerensa: yes, i will do that.
[09:40] <bkerensa> kk
[09:42] <sh4d0w> jejj
[09:42] <sh4d0w> hoa
[09:42] <sh4d0w> hola
[09:42] <sh4d0w> kajsaks
[09:42] <FloodBot1> sh4d0w: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:42] <sh4d0w> hay alguien?
[09:43] <sh4d0w> donst'stay
[09:43] <sh4d0w> kajsakjskajskajsakjs
[09:43] <chakal^-^> si sh4d0w
[09:43] <sh4d0w> hola chakal
[09:43] <sh4d0w> :P
[09:43] <sh4d0w> aqui nadie habla
[09:43] <sh4d0w> XD
[09:43] <chakal^-^> hablan mas ingles
[09:43] <chakal^-^> :)
[09:44] <sh4d0w> de donde sos chakal
[09:44] <sh4d0w> xD
[09:44] <chakal^-^> es irrelevante
[09:44]  * chakal^-^ español
[09:44] <sh4d0w> haha
[09:44] <sh4d0w> xd
[09:44] <sh4d0w> yo soy de venezuela
[09:44] <sh4d0w> mira entra aqui
[09:44] <sh4d0w> xat.com/indetecters
[09:44] <sh4d0w> no has entrado a xat?
[09:45] <sh4d0w> skjdanskdjnasd
[09:45] <sh4d0w> sdaikdmaoik
[09:45] <sh4d0w> saidpaiksid
[09:45] <sh4d0w> asdkmoadks
[09:45] <sh4d0w> asdmaskkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[09:45] <FloodBot1> sh4d0w: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:45] <sh4d0w> skoksssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[09:46] <damiano> ciao a tutti
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[09:46] <yhy> help, when i connect to "127.0.0.1", ERROR:: Connection refused
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> !es
[09:47] <chakal^-^> yhy, not port open or firewall active
[09:48] <yhy> en? but how
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> yhy  can you ping 127.0.0.1 ?
[09:50] <yhy> yes, i can
[09:50] <llutz> yhy: "when i connect to "127.0.0.1"   how do you try? ssh/telnet/http?
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> yhy  it's localhost, your pc, why do you want to connect to it?
[09:52] <yhy> i am writing  a echo client and server, its a practice
[09:52] <llutz> yhy: then make sure your server listens on localhost and your client uses the correct port
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> yhy  try connecting to your local ip address
[09:53] <altin> is there a black version of adwaita theme for gnome3 ?
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> !themes
[09:53] <Zonar> Hello. How to copy files/folders from a user to another? Of course I am the administrator of the PC.
[09:54] <llutz> Zonar: cp -r user1/path user2/path && chown -R user2:user2 user2/path
[09:54] <rigved> yhy: are you specifying the correct port when you try to connect?
[09:55] <Zonar> llutz, will I need «sudo»? By the way, there is a graphic mode? I am a bit bad in console.
[09:55] <fizy[laptop]> does anyone know why when i cloned a drive, one of my partitions lost about half of the root directories. testdisk shows the missing ones with a "?---------" where it would normally have "drwxr-xr-x". the source disk has 2 bad sectors, but the directories that are missing are known to be fine
[09:55] <llutz> Zonar: it needs root-rights
[09:55] <Zonar> llutz, ok, thanks.
[09:56] <joeram> do we have a skype for ubuntu
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> joeram  yes, but you have to activate the partner repo
[09:56]  * Zonar is away: Estoy ocupado
[09:56] <rigved> !skype | joeram
[09:56] <llutz> !pm | yhy
[09:56] <joeram> ok
[09:57] <llutz> !away | Zonar
[09:58] <joeram> thanks
[09:59] <ANub> hello
[09:59] <ANub> since the installation of 12.04 i'm having Xserver problem
[10:00] <ANub> when I switch to second X terminal ....it gets glitchy and cant work
[10:01] <ANub> Xterm "0" works perfectly Ok......but none other (gets glitchy)
[10:01] <ANub> any ideas....?
[10:02] <Zonar> Ok, no «away» here, sorry.
[10:02] <Volis> Is fdisk available by default on Live CD version of Ubuntu 10.04?
[10:02] <ANub> this problem was not there in 10.10
[10:02] <fizy[laptop]> does anyone know why when i cloned a drive, one of my partitions lost about half of the root directories. testdisk shows the missing ones with a "?---------" where it would normally have "drwxr-xr-x". the source disk has 2 bad sectors, but the directories that are missing are known to be fine
[10:02] <theadmin> Volis: Has to be, it's a very basic tool which seems to be present even in the most minimalist distributions
[10:07] <Sparky712> ahh im in.... right..
[10:08] <Sparky712> right, who could help me with an installation problem?
[10:08] <sh4d0w> :D
[10:08] <Volis> theadmin, Thanks.
[10:08] <sh4d0w> hi
[10:08] <fizy[laptop]> Sparky712: depends. whats the problem
[10:08] <theadmin> Sparky712: You have to name the problem.
[10:08] <sh4d0w> hello
[10:08] <sh4d0w> good mornig
[10:08] <sh4d0w> :$
[10:08] <sh4d0w> xDD
[10:09] <sh4d0w> soy de venezuelan
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> sh4d0w  did you have a support question?
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> !es| sh4d0w
[10:09] <fizy[laptop]> watch it sh4d0w. you'll get kicked
[10:09] <sh4d0w> español
[10:09] <sh4d0w> XD
[10:09] <sh4d0w> kicke for your ass
[10:09] <sh4d0w> asshole
[10:09] <DJones> !es | sh4d0w
[10:09] <Sparky712> hey shadow. and, the problem is, im trying to install off USB, (ive tried the windows installer as well) it gets so far, until it reaches a part where its checking the vram, i think, then it stops.
[10:10] <fizy[laptop]> Sparky712: what version are you installing
[10:10] <sh4d0w> hahaha
[10:10] <Sparky712> 12.04
[10:10] <LjL> sh4d0w: behave.
[10:10] <sh4d0w> fucking your ass
[10:10] <Sparky712> i have tried it with the version behind that as well
[10:10] <sh4d0w> :@
[10:10] <sh4d0w> akjsnaksnas
[10:10] <sh4d0w> aajsa
[10:10] <FloodBot1> sh4d0w: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <sh4d0w> sa
[10:10] <sh4d0w> s
[10:10] <theadmin> Sparky712: Do you haz enough RAM? I believe the minimum nowadays is 700-something
[10:10] <Sparky712> I should do, i have about 2 gigs, i believe. either that or 4...
[10:11] <fizy[laptop]> Sparky712: reboot, and when it shows the purple screen, hit shift, then escape, then select "install ubuntu"
[10:11] <Sparky712> it doesnt show it purple. it shows it black and white.. O.o
[10:11] <fizy[laptop]> Sparky712: wait for it to show purple with "ubuntu" and 5 dots for a few secs, then try it
[10:12] <Sparky712> it doesnt, it goes straight to trying to boot it. which is where the problem starts...
[10:12] <Sparky712> loads casper, then the one after that.. goes so far, stops.
[10:12] <fizy[laptop]> Sparky712: you DO know how to boot from a usb, right?
[10:12] <fizy[laptop]> ok nvm
[10:13] <fizy[laptop]> Sparky712: can you try that on another computer? it could be that the usb is messed up. its more likely than you think
[10:13] <Sparky712> as I said, I've tried the windows installer as well. same problem
[10:14] <theadmin> Sparky712: Maybe it's a broken download.
[10:14] <fizy[laptop]> Sparky712: iv never used the windows installed. i have no idea how it works, but to me, murphys law says that seems like a terrible idea. but iv never used it, so it might be better than a straight install.
[10:15] <Lupa> Hello everytime I use Ubuntu and turn it off wrong or download something like python ide  or delete some stuff I always have to reinstall ubuntu or it crashes randomly in 12.04
[10:15] <Lupa> its really annoying and I like Linux
[10:16] <fizy[laptop]> Lupa: are you using the live cd?
[10:16] <Lupa> after using the live cd
[10:16] <Lupa> I will install it
[10:16] <Lupa> then use the os for a while then something above causes random problems
[10:16] <Sparky712> you are suggesting 3 or 4 separate downloads all broke? unlikely, but possible...
[10:17] <theadmin> Sparky712: Eh, that's unlikely indeed... hm
[10:17] <Lupa> then when I open up ubuntu again it brings up the annoying low graphics mode dialog upon which I can not navigate with the mouse sometimes
[10:17] <gigix> Lupa, you installed ubuntu from the live-cd on you harddrive right ?
[10:17] <Lupa> yea on my Asus EEEPC 701 4G Surf after one tweak
[10:17] <fizy[laptop]> Lupa: do you know where its installed (which partition)?
[10:17] <theadmin> Lupa: Did you upgrade your system properly after installing? I'm suspecting dependency mess here
[10:17] <Lupa> 4gb SSD
[10:18] <Lupa> the full harddrive
[10:18] <Lupa> sorry solid state drive*
[10:18] <theadmin> Lupa: Ouch. 4GB is hardly enough for Ubuntu.
[10:18] <gigix> Lupa, 4Gb god that's low
[10:18] <Lupa> thats the eeepc I couldn't use puppy linux or any other distro on to the asus
[10:18] <fizy[laptop]> Lupa: boot to the live cd, then type in a console <<ls -1 /dev | grep "^sd">>
[10:18] <gigix> how much ram on your 701 ?
[10:18] <Lupa> 1gb
[10:19] <Lupa> I will have to reinstall the os again to do that fizy
[10:19] <gigix> so 2Gb of swap
[10:19] <gigix> leaves 2Gb for the system
[10:19] <fizy[laptop]> Lupa: then tell me what it says, but put it on one line, or else the ops will get pissed
[10:19] <Lupa> ofc mate
[10:19] <Lupa> brb :)
[10:19] <theadmin> Lupa: I strongly suggest you try another distro... Ubuntu can't fit in that little space. Or use the Minimal install cd
[10:19] <gigix> Lupa: same advice here
[10:20] <Lupa> I had to do a tweak to get ubuntu installed I just want a small ubuntu based distro of linux thats under majorly under 4gb
[10:20] <Lupa> but anyways I will reinstall ubuntu brb
[10:21] <Sparky712> *sigh*  any ideas for what could be causing my problem?
[10:22] <theadmin> Sparky712: Not really, it might be... hm.... What is your processor?
[10:22] <fizy[laptop]> Sparky712: did you try the usb on another comp?
[10:22] <Sparky712> hang on a second
[10:22] <Sparky712> it's unlikely to be the USB's fault, when I have the same problem with the windows installer
[10:23] <oooaaaoooo1> hi guys, anyone here uses awk?
[10:23] <fizy[laptop]> Sparky712: im not testing the drive. im testing if its the comps fault
[10:23] <Sparky712> ahj
[10:23] <Sparky712> ahh*
[10:24] <gigix> Lupa, what about Lubuntu ?
[10:24] <Sparky712> AMD Athlon 64 processor 4000+
[10:24] <Lupa> I tried to use it and couldn't get past the install process
[10:24] <Lupa> maybe using the same tweak for ubuntu would work with lubuntu havn't tried it
[10:24]  * fizy[laptop] wants to strangle murphy for his law
[10:25] <Lupa> do you recommand I try it again gigix?
[10:25] <Lupa> because I will
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> fizy[laptop]  thanks to that law, you know you are not alone
[10:25] <gigix> Lupa, Lubuntu is more suitable for old or weaker hardware
[10:25] <gigix> and is a very usable environment
[10:26] <Lupa> true okay I will give it another whirl lets see what I can do
[10:26] <fizy[laptop]> MonkeyDust: yep. im SURROUNDED my corrupted partitions and failing sectors and physically falling apart SD cards
[10:26] <Lupa> gotta redo my usb stick tho pain
[10:26] <gigix> Yes, use unetbootin on windows
[10:26] <Lupa> yep
[10:26] <dontknow> hd2400 with catalyst video performance sucks
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> dontknow mind your language
[10:34] <Lupa> omgosh the mouse support in Lubuntu is bad
[10:34] <Lupa> I may have to plug in a usb mouse
[10:34] <Lupa> but I need it for my main pc
[10:35] <fasta> Lupa: ps/2 works.
[10:35] <Sparky712> -.-' the only free computer in the house, and it wont boot from USB.
[10:35] <fasta> Lupa: which mouse support do you want?
[10:35] <Lupa> touchpad on asus
[10:35] <fasta> Lupa: and that doesn't work? What makes you think that?
[10:36] <Lupa> it lieterally doesn't work
[10:36] <Lupa> literally*
[10:36] <fasta> Asus generally has good Linux support.
[10:36] <fasta> Lupa: which model?
[10:36] <Lupa> 701 4G Surf
[10:37] <VGoff> oooaaaoooo1, Is there something you want to know about awk, or just want to know how many people here use awk?
[10:38] <oooaaaoooo1> VGoff: something specific.well this is the situation: I would like to scan a file that has information about a list and use awk to generate that list from teh information in that list. is that possible or is it not within awk's scope?
[10:38] <fasta> Lupa: ok, perhaps it does suck.
[10:38] <Lupa> is there some kind of shortcut to get support in Lubuntu for touchpad?
[10:38] <fasta> Lupa: don't buy Asus next time, I suppose.
[10:38] <oooaaaoooo1> VGoff: e.g. say a file has teh following row : a, 1,5. Id like to generate a new file from that file with the following rows : {a1, 1},{a2, 2} ...{a5, 5}
[10:39] <oooaaaoooo1> VGoff: basically create data from metadata
[10:39] <Lupa> this computer really does suck for the ability to just work stablly
[10:39] <Lupa> frick sake
[10:39] <dontknow> MonkeyDust, shut up i know that you are troll
[10:39] <Lupa> i hate xandros
[10:40] <Sparky712> i was watching those 'why linux sucks' videos from jupiterbroadcasting on youtube, it does seem that there are problems with touchpads still
[10:40] <VGoff> oooaaaoooo1, Well, awk is probably the right tool for the job, as it is a pattern scanner and processing language.
[10:40] <VGoff> Have you read the man page?
[10:41] <VGoff> It is definitely possible and what it is written for.
[10:41] <paul_uk> hey guys, whats happened with remmina remote desktop?  with 11.10 connecting to win7 was fine, now with 12.04.  all I get is a blank screen, is it waiting for some sort of prompt for the certification of the machine?
[10:41] <fizy[laptop]> dontknow and MonkeyDust: lets take this down a few notches. some of us (most of the ~1544 of us) are here for support. not to spectate arguing
[10:41] <fasta> My touchpad worked since day one and that was over 3 years ago.
[10:41] <Slart> oooaaaoooo1: this sounds like fun.. I'll play around and see what I can come up with.. I'll get back to you
[10:41] <fasta> Only way for the manufacturers to learn is to only buy supported products.
[10:41] <Lupa> Ubuntu works almost great with asus eeepc 701 4g surf but its just so unstable like it just crashes and then I have to reinstall everything everytime it does its proper annoying I just want solid os that I don't have to worry about
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> fizy[laptop]  you're addressing the wrong guy, but let's move on
[10:42] <VGoff> The point being in IRC if you ask a direct question, someone will pick it up if they can.  A lot of people won't probe like I did.
[10:42] <fasta> Lupa: I highly doubt it crashes.
[10:42] <oooaaaoooo1> Slart: thanks man :)
[10:42] <Lupa> most of the time it just does weird stuff I guess crashes is a metaphor :)
[10:42] <fizy[laptop]> MonkeyDust: seriuously? thats embarrassing. guess thats my i dont make a good op
[10:42] <fasta> Lupa: I have never reinstalled.
[10:42] <fasta> Lupa: well, I did reinstall, but not because of a technical reason.
[10:43] <fasta> Lupa: more like a change in requirements.
[10:43] <Lupa> I'm thinking that the tweak to ubuntu actually destroys the os
[10:43] <Lupa> all I did was change a python file fudge factor to 1.4 instead of 2
[10:43] <fasta> Lupa: those devices have only a 1GB or RAM or so.
[10:43] <fasta> Lupa: you need to be careful as to what you install before it slows down to turtle speed.
[10:44] <fasta> Lupa: the CPUs are often also underpowered.
[10:44] <Lupa> so what do you suggest I do I want linux and I want ubuntu software
[10:44] <fasta> Lupa: in short, they are more like web browser devices, not actual computers.
[10:44] <Sparky712> right, I have a new approach. using the windows installer, which is drawing from the USB... I will be back, to tell if it has worked or not.
[10:44] <fasta> Lupa: I suggest  you find a friend who knows what he is doing.
[10:45] <fasta> Lupa: and or read some information about Linux yourself and get an USB mouse
[10:45] <kutchbhi> would this cron entry run  every monday, wednesday , friday at 3AM ? 0 3 * * 1,3,5
[10:45] <fasta> Lupa: and not buy Asus again; their user support also sucks.
[10:46] <fasta> Lupa: it cannot possibly be more amateuristic; I think their website has cost about 2000$ to make or something like that.
[10:46] <Battaglin> anyone have a FXI Cotton Candy with Ubuntu on it?
[10:47] <fizy[laptop]> fasta: idk. asus motherboards have been nothing but golden for me. i refuse to buy any mobo but asus (biostar is the only possible, rare exception)
[10:47] <fasta> fizy[laptop]: yes, I have heard that too.
[10:47] <fasta> fizy[laptop]: still, I am speaking from experience after the shit had already hit the fan.
[10:48] <fizy[laptop]> fasta: although, their pre built comps may be different. i have never bought a comp. i always build them from scratch. to me, its simpler
[10:49] <Sparky712> building is better, you know exactly what is in it, and actually on the computer. rather than the mess these companies like to put on there.
[10:49] <Paulo39> hello there, how can i update grub via live session?
[10:49] <fizy[laptop]> Sparky712: hell yeah. best part: NO NORTON
[10:49] <bitsar> Anyone know how to refer to sublime text via the cli?
[10:49] <delta> Hi to all!
[10:49] <Lupa> there a linux distro based on Ubuntu called EasyPeasy which is for netbooks
[10:49] <Lupa> going to try that before I just fuck it and go back to Xandros or winXP
[10:50] <Sparky712> I actually had to reinstall windows to get rid of that. -.-' so much hassle, just for such a small change.
[10:50] <delta> i search help about VNC, in Ubuntu 12.04 i'm looking for changine the default port.... thank you!
[10:50] <oCean> Lupa: such language is not welcome here
[10:50] <fizy[laptop]> Lupa: its good to see that there are still copies of xp being installed every day. screw 7
[10:51] <Lupa> 7 is okay I don't like the file manager look and feel winxp is just awesome stilll imo
[10:51] <Sparky712> haha... I only use XP out of necessity... and hatred for the direction Microsoft OS's are going.
[10:51] <fizy[laptop]> i cannot STAND 7
[10:51] <fizy[laptop]> 7
[10:51] <Lupa> win 8 is going to screw up everything
[10:51] <oCean> fizy[laptop], Lupa, Sparky712, you are offtopic, please stop it
[10:51] <Lupa> its because bill gates is not there anymore
[10:51] <oCean> Let met rephrase that stop it now
[10:52] <fizy[laptop]> oCean: he was probs looking at the keyboard when you typed that. not everyone is an awesome typist like me
[10:52] <Sparky712> yup, sorry, back on topic, 'an error occurred: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_info'
[10:52] <Lupa> same here sorry
[10:53] <kutchbhi> would this cron entry run  every monday, wednesday , friday at 3AM ? 0 3 * * 1,3,5
[10:53] <Sparky712> and the ubuntu installer closes because of it... -.-' come on.
[10:53] <delta> i search help about VNC, in Ubuntu 12.04 i'm looking for changine the default port.... thank you!
[10:55] <Sparky712> can anyone help with my error, in installation?
[10:56] <salvo> ciao
[10:56] <delta> Hi, does anyone know how to change VNC port in Ubuntu 12.04 please?
[10:57] <llutz> kutchbhi: yes (man 5 crontab   for details)
[10:59] <MaWaLe> delta:  may i suggest you to keep the default VNC configuration and instead of changing the default port just do a port redirection on your router
[10:59] <missmimic> hello! im on 12,04 also and trying to run wine 1.5 problem is i need the audio drive to recognize OSSS driver and the option is not on the wine config screen for me as it shows in wine screenshot....found a file in my lib folder thats called noOSS that i cannot delete or edit i thought may be blocking the oss driver from installing. does anyone know how i can install oss driver and/or command wine to use this as the audio driver?
[10:59] <Slart> oooaaaoooo1: something like this might work.. try it out cat infile | awk -F, '{start = $2; end=$3; for (i=start;i<end;i++){ printf "{%s,%s},",$1i,i };printf"{%s,%s}\n",$1end,end;}'
[10:59] <MaWaLe> otherwise i think that SSH is more secure than VNC
[10:59] <delta> Hi, does anyone know how to change VNC port in Ubuntu 12.04 please?
[10:59] <tailot> hi, how to convert shs document in doc or odt or pdf ?
[11:00] <paul_uk> wow remmina rdesktop sucks now
[11:00] <Slart> oooaaaoooo1: should be easy enough to switch around.. it's basically a for loop with an extra print at the end to avoid the last comma
[11:00] <Slart> oooaaaoooo1: I have no idea how it behaves if you feed it bad data.. it's just a quick hack
[11:01] <Sparky712> 'an error occurred: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_info'  - this is stopping me installing ubuntu. can anyone help me deal with it?
[11:02] <MaWaLe> delta:  i recommend you port forwarding in your router instead of changing the default port
[11:03] <missmimic> i want wine to to use oss driver as audio driver option is not given.
[11:03] <missmimic> <--anyone know how i can install oss driver (command on their wiki not working may need help with command to delete a file called noOSS if thats the problem)
[11:03] <MaWaLe> delta :http://www.realvnc.com/products/vnc/documentation/5.0/guides/user/ai1047203.html
[11:04] <Slart> missmimic: not sure if this is 100% reliable info but from reading wine forum posts it seems oss support was removed about a year ago
[11:06] <delta> Hi, does anyone know how to change VNC port in Ubuntu 12.04 please?
[11:06] <missmimic> hmmm i found a forum that was used 3 weeks ago on ubuntu re the issue someone sounds like they know about it but im not sure i even have oss installed and if that file is indeed bloocking it
[11:07] <Sparky712> delta...
 delta:  may i suggest you to keep the default VNC configuration and instead of changing the default port just do a port redirection on your router
[11:07] <Sparky712> and this
 delta :http://www.realvnc.com/products/vnc/documentation/5.0/guides/user/ai1047203.html
[11:08] <missmimic> is anyone using wine with the oss driver or wine to run spotify.exe?
[11:08] <Slart> missmimic: try asking in #winehq if you don't get answers here
[11:08] <missmimic> thanks!
[11:09] <Slart> missmimic: that is the official support channel for wine
[11:09] <missmimic> excellent i am gonna try that thanks Slart
[11:09] <Slart> missmimic: you're welcome
[11:09] <Sparky712> Slart, you think you would be able to help with my problem?
[11:10] <Paulo39> hi there, when i boot i get the error: the /home drive is not ready... you cant skip or recover manually
 yes there may be a solution... but i'm looking for to change it... :(
[11:11] <Paulo39> what can i do to mount /home partition?
[11:11] <Slart> Sparky712: about vnc default port? I haven't used vnc that much myself.. but it has to be in some kind of configuration file.. no /etc/vnc or /etc/realvnc?
 the guide is relative realVNC, i use ubuntu vnc default
[11:11] <Sparky712> nono, thats not mine. thats delta's problem.. mine is installing linux, it comes up with this error
[11:11] <Sparky712> an error occurred: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_info
 it's my problem... i want to change default vnc port in ubuntu 12.04
[11:13] <Slart> Sparky712: sounds like a programmer somewhere didn't do his job.. not checking if some kind of function actually returned an object.. not a lot you can do about that. Have you tried the text based installer? also called the Alternate installer
[11:15] <Sparky712> it's odd, because this is actually the 12.04 version of Ubuntu which I am trying to install.... which many people have.
[11:16] <Slart> Sparky712: you're trying to install the regular desktop version?
[11:16] <Sparky712> yup
[11:18] <Slart> Sparky712: try the text based installer here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads   you will end up with the same system after the install, the only difference is that the installed doesn't come with any nice graphics .. it's just basic 80x25 text but perhaps that version works for you
[11:18] <Slart> *installer
[11:19] <Slart> Sparky712: in the past there has been some situations with some kinds of hardware that only worked with the alternate installer for various reasons
[11:21] <frogg> ??
[11:24] <vidyut> I just read that php attacks can be used to change the DOM of a page. What’s that all about?
[11:24] <compdoc> so many lanot*, so little time
[11:24] <theadmin> vidyut: The "content" of a page if you wish. Document Object Model.
[11:24] <pesci> !list
[11:25] <vidyut> theadmin: can you describe it a bit about this attack?
[11:25] <Sparky712> thanks slart... I will see what I can do
[11:25] <theadmin> vidyut: "php attack" is, well, WAY vague.
[11:26] <theadmin> vidyut: It's also offtopic.
[11:26] <Slart> Sparky712: you're welcome.. hope it works out for you
[11:28] <maAveli> hi all.
[11:28] <vidyut> theadmin: ok can you say something about the document object model?
[11:29] <Elvano> Isn't this more a question for, let us say, W3Schools or so?
[11:30] <theadmin> vidyut: Still offtopic. Sorry. Ubuntu stuff only here
[11:35] <i45> what $() actually does? where can i read about it?
[11:36] <compdoc> i45, google Variable Substitution
[11:36] <theadmin> i45: In bash, the $(SOMETHING) construct inserts the output of SOMETHING into the place where the construct is located.
[11:37] <theadmin> i45: ${SOMETHING}, on the other hand, just gives you the value of the environment variable SOMETHING (is essentially same as $SOMETHING most of the time)
[11:39] <Wheemp> Which ubuntu built can be used to install a server install without cdrom?
[11:39] <Elvano> Depends on if you're willing to use an USB key
[11:39] <Wheemp> Yes, from usb stick
[11:40] <Elvano> All CD-rom versions can be converted to USB Bootable images
[11:40] <Wheemp> Except that they still ask me to add drivers for CD-ROM during installs
[11:41] <xserve> hi
[11:41] <Elvano> I can't recall which program worked for me
[11:41] <minas> Hi. I'm doing some programming in OpenGL, and when I try to run the program, it crashes with the following output: http://pastebin.com/hRmuPZMg     Note: It's not programming related, I found on google that many people had similar issues, and all of them used Linux. I couldn't like a solution though... I'm on 12.04.
[11:41] <minas> *find
[11:41] <compdoc> Wheemp, which drivers?
[11:42] <i45> compdoc, theadmin thanks ;p
[11:42] <Wheemp> compdoc: after setting keyboard etc it says "no CDROM drivers found, want to retrive those from a floppy" or something
[11:43] <compdoc> Wheemp, Ive nver seen ubuntu ask for drivers
[11:43] <Wheemp> every version so far that i tried has done so and i can't skip that part
[11:44] <Wheemp> i've tried both desktop and server installs, both i386 and amd64
[11:44] <Wheemp> using Universal USB installer to convert *.iso to bootable files on USB
[11:44] <Elvano> Wheemp: I just remember I used my Windows for the conversion. Sorry but I can help you here.
[11:45] <theadmin> Wheemp: I suggest you create your USB properly using dd... I create mine in Windows using LiLi though, always works
[11:45] <compdoc> Wheemp, most pl say to use UNetbootin
[11:46] <compdoc> ppl
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> Wheemp  or MultiSystem for multiboot
[11:46] <Wheemp> theadmin: dd?
[11:46] <morsnowski> Wheemp, or you can use mutilsystem, has a nice gui and works great
[11:46] <gr33n7007h> dd if=/path/to/your.iso of=/dev/drive
[11:46] <Wheemp> ok so its the usb build thats causing it to ask for a cdrom?
[11:47] <theadmin> Wheemp: Likely.
[11:47] <Wheemp> strange
[11:47] <Wheemp> i have no cdrom on the computer where im building it
[11:47] <compdoc> yeah, so why would it need drivers?
[11:47] <theadmin> Wheemp: Meh, the way you built it fails to find the proper loopmounts I suppose. Happens when the USB is created badly
[11:48] <Wheemp> compdoc: no clue, thats why im in here asking
[11:48] <Wheemp> theadmin: i used the recommended programs.. :)
[11:48] <Elvano> Wheemp: If possible I'd try UNetBoot atleast
[11:48] <morsnowski> Wheemp, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[11:49] <theadmin> Wheemp: Try LinuxLive USB Creator and Unetbootin, the Universal USB Installer is, well... idk. Never worked for me
[11:49] <Elvano> One of those never worked for me either. I think it's the UUI as well
[11:49] <Wheemp> morsnowski: Im on a Win7 machine where i download the iso files, multiboot seems to be a linux progrma
[11:50] <morsnowski> oh sorry
[11:51] <Wheemp> i can give it a go at lili to check if it removed that cdrom question
[11:53] <minas> Here's the access right's I have on  a folder: drw-r-xr-x 2 minas minas 4096 Apr 16 15:05 OpenGL_9_triangles. What does the 'd' mean???
[11:53] <minas> (drw)
[11:54] <morsnowski> Wheemp, this is a windows version http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> minas  directory
[11:54] <Wheemp> morsnowski: i'll have a got with that "lili" first to see if i get the same error there
[11:54] <minas> MonkeyDust: Thank you. Also Some files appear to be in green colour. Why?
[11:55] <compdoc> UNetbootin
[11:56] <BlouBlou> is there any way make ubuntu autorotate/autochange desktop images? For example, change desktop image every 30 minutes
[11:56] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, any1 have the gnome-magnifier installed? I need to known the command to run the app...
[11:56] <edgy> Hi, update-grub shows lots of "error: physical volume pv0 not found." as seen at http://pastebin.ca/2161784, any help?
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> minas  to make it easier to read
[11:59] <minas> MonkeyDust: really? :p I thought it was because they have some kind of permission... Thanks a lot!
[12:00] <axgb> is there anyone who can help me with ubuntu low-graphics mode
[12:00] <Elvano> edgy: I'm taking a guess at it but the grub seems to have a bootsector on a non-existing drive
[12:00] <Elvano> all: people are free to correct me
[12:01] <edgy> Elvano: please check http://pastebin.ca/2161798
[12:01] <Wheemp> Same problem with "lili" "Your installation of CD-ROM couldn't be mounted. This probobly means that the CD-ROM was not in the drive- So if you can insert it and try again."
[12:01] <edgy> Elvano: if the bootsector is in a non-existing drive, how come everything is working properly
[12:02] <edgy> Elvano: the system boots I mean
[12:02] <Elvano> Wheemp: I guess all there is left to do is take a baseball bat and wack some sense into your computer
[12:02] <axgb> my ubuntu was working fine until a program (Audacity) ran out of memory or similar and it went into low-graphics mode
[12:02] <axgb> I have 12.04 LTS
[12:02] <Wheemp> Elvano: if the computer was to blame then es..
[12:03] <Wheemp> Elvano: works just fine with other installations
[12:03] <Elvano> edgy: I'm afraid someone more expierenced than myself (not to worry almost anyone will do) will have to take a crack at it
[12:03] <sleax> hi to all, what's the users nobody, nobody4 and noaccess in unix-like systems?
[12:03] <axgb> are you talking to me, edgy
[12:03] <edgy> Elvano: thanks for your care.  I hope some one would come to the rescue
[12:04] <axgb> ?
[12:04] <edgy> axgb: no ;)
[12:04] <edgy> axgb: unless you can help me solve my problem
[12:05] <axgb> what is your problem edgy
[12:05] <Duality> hi all, i updated ubuntu server with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and now my website doesnt work anymore? any tips on finding whats the problem here :)?
[12:05] <axgb> edgy what is the problem you want solved
[12:06] <edgy> axgb: update-grub shows lots of "error: physical volume pv0 not found." as seen at http://pastebin.ca/2161784, http://pastebin.ca/2161798
[12:06] <edgy> Duality: check the log files
[12:06] <oooaaaoooo1> Slart: hey man thnx. In the command, what exactly is %s?
[12:06] <Elvano> Duality: alot of things can be wrong. For example your static ip may have been changed
[12:06] <axgb> sorry edgy i dont know anything about GRUB
[12:06] <Duality> Elvano: that is one of the first things i checked, edgy where can i find those :)?
[12:07] <Wheemp> trying witn unetbootin then..
[12:07] <edgy> axgb: np, regarding your low graphics mode, I guess you need to reconfigure your vga card
[12:07] <Elvano> Duality: what kind of website are you running (all modules involved)?
[12:07] <edgy> Duality: first make sure apache is working, using ps e.g, then check /var/log/apache2/error.log
[12:07] <axgb> edgy , it was working fine but a program crashed? how do i reconfigure my VGA card
[12:07] <Duality> Elvano: if you meen mysql php http yes
[12:08] <edgy> axgb: what's your vga card?
[12:08] <Duality> yes apache is running
[12:08] <axgb> what is a VGA card? do you mean graphics card
[12:08] <edgy> axgb: yes, I mean graphics card or X server
[12:09] <axgb> I have a nvidea graphics card which previously worked absolutely perfectly
[12:09] <Wheemp> Duality: do you get the message that the page wants to be downloaded or does't just appare that the page doesn't excist?
[12:09] <Duality> Wheemp: the page is white, no error on the page shown
[12:09] <Wheemp> Duality: Sounds like a php problem if all the files are located as they should and the site-avalible is set as normal
[12:10] <Wheemp> Duality: any scripts that runs from ruby rails or such? Passenger?
[12:10] <edgy> axgb: if you are using free drivers, may be you just need to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:10] <Elvano> Duality: If you have an info.php, can you reach that one through your internetbrowser?
[12:10] <Duality> wheemp not i know of, i run wordpress uses php and mysql
[12:10] <axgb> how do i get to command line from low graphics mode
[12:10] <Wheemp> Duality: Nods, as Elvano said, make a info.php or something to see if that page works
[12:10] <axgb> and will it auto-reconfigure or will i have to do something else
[12:10] <edgy> axgb: boot in recovery mode and go for root prompt option
[12:11] <axgb> okay
[12:11] <Segnale007> hello people ..
[12:11] <zamba> hello thar!
[12:11] <Segnale007> anyone here knows how to mount a mtp device on Ubuntu ?
[12:11] <axgb> edgy, are you a very experienced user of ubuntu?
[12:12] <edgy> axgb: not very experience but I am using it for a bit long time now
[12:12] <Segnale007> I have got a galaxy nexus and I have been going crazy for the past few days trying to figure out a way to mount it
[12:12] <Duality> http://freeduality.tk/info.php
[12:12] <edgy> Segnale007: I have a galaxy S III and all I need to do is to  use airdroid
[12:12] <Segnale007> but no lack so far.. mtpfs along with its dependeces is installed and lsusb sees the device
[12:12] <Segnale007> but still nothing
[12:12] <Segnale007> airdroid ?
[12:12] <Segnale007> what is that?
[12:12] <edgy> Segnale007: no need for mounting and the hard work
[12:12] <Segnale007> oh
[12:12] <edgy> Segnale007: google for it
[12:12] <axgb> when i type in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will I need to do anything extra or will it audomaticially reconfigure
[12:13] <Segnale007> its like it uses adb push and pull via air ?
[12:13] <Duality> or do i need to make a pastebin thingy? (because i am the only one who can see not sure how this works though :)
[12:13] <edgy> axgb: I think it will ask you a couple of questions but I don't remember them, google for that command, please
[12:14] <Wheemp> axgb: it will ask for a few questions
[12:14] <axgb> edge, after answering the questions will i restart into normal ubuntu and it should work
[12:14] <Elvano> Duality: the good thing is, your php server is up and running
[12:14] <Segnale007> omg do I really need to use this crap in order to mount my phone as a usb hard drive ?
[12:14] <Duality> Elvano: cool :)
[12:15] <Elvano> Duality: can you acces the  infopage yourself?
[12:15] <axgb> Thanks Edge, i will print of the chat and follow your instructions and look up the CMD on google
[12:15] <BenLue> hello guys
[12:15] <Duality> Elvano: yes
[12:16] <Duality> Elvano: you meen the link i posted that is :)?
[12:16] <Elvano> Duality: yes
[12:16] <Duality> yes
[12:16] <BenLue> Its possible to create an Installation USB-Stick  with Ubuntu and Windows7?
[12:16] <BenLue> ex Multiinstall Meduim
[12:16] <BenLue> *Medium
[12:17] <Elvano> Duality: I'm pretty new to linux myself, but even if the MySQL server would be down I'd atleast get an error on your page, which is now not the case
[12:17] <Duality> hmmm /var/log/apache2/error.log says: [Sat Jun 16 14:15:09 2012] [error] [client 151.50.220.80] File does not exist: /var/www/Website/favicon.ico
[12:17] <Wheemp> This is driving me insane, ok i tried unetbootin to and its the same thing
[12:18] <Wheemp> Duality: i'd say that you lost something from homepage.. favico.ico is that little symbol to the left of where you write the adress
[12:18] <Elvano> Duality: Does the file exist and are the premissions set properly?
[12:18] <Wheemp> that little icon
[12:18] <Elvano> Duality: permissions are a pain when you update
[12:18] <edgy> axgb: you are welcome, have to go now. bye all
[12:19] <Wheemp> Bah i don't know what to do about this installation..
[12:19] <Duality> that file is not in the home directory of the website
[12:19] <Wheemp> Duality: its usually in a img dir
[12:19] <Elvano> Wheemp: If only i remember what program I used to make the image
[12:20] <Wheemp> Duality: check in index.php/html it should be added around where it reads for css files
[12:20] <Wheemp> Elvano: you don't have any cd-rom either?
[12:20] <Wheemp> its seems like the reason it triggers is because there is no cd-rom
[12:20] <Wheemp> even if i don't use it it still wants drivers for something thats isn't there
[12:20] <Elvano> Wheemp: I installed it at my gf's where, indeed, the pc has no CD-rom stations
[12:20] <Duality> Wheemp: the index.php does not state where such a folder is :)
[12:21] <Elvano> Wheemp: However, it probably once had
[12:21] <Duality> cd wp-content/ -bash: cd: wp-content/: Permission denied
[12:21] <Wheemp> No this one doesn't have one, its a HP rackserver
[12:22] <Duality> drw-r--r-- 6 duality  duality   4096 2012-06-12 22:48 wp-content
[12:22] <Elvano> Duality: use the "sudo nautilus"
[12:22] <Duality> nautilus?
[12:22] <Wheemp> Duality: the searchstring for the icon should be there if it shows the icon
[12:22] <Wheemp> or in the .css
[12:22] <Elvano> Duality: please don't tell me I mispelled it again ._.
[12:23] <Duality> sudo: cd: command not found
[12:23] <Duality> wtf
[12:24] <Duality> i can cd to any other directory but wp-content
[12:24] <Wheemp> Ah bummer..
[12:24] <Wheemp> thanks for trying atleast
[12:24] <Elvano> Duality: I forgot to ask, you don't have the desktop-version I presume
[12:24] <Wheemp> guess its another debian installation
[12:24] <Duality> Elvano: desktop-version of what?
[12:25] <Elvano> Duality: of Ubuntu? XD
[12:25] <Duality> Elvano: yea ubuntu server
[12:25] <sivapvarma> Hi everyone
[12:25] <Elvano> Duality: that one doesn't have nautilus I assume
[12:25] <Duality> one before 12.~
[12:26] <johan`> So, uh, Xorg crashes on boot, same when trying startx. I've got a really long log
[12:26] <Elvano> Duality: What version of wordpress do you have?
[12:26] <sivapvarma> can any how difficult it will be to get skim pdf reader to work for ubuntu
[12:26] <sachael> is anyone using any volume control applet in fluxbox under ubuntu 12.04? The keyboard and wifi indicators got somewhat started by my old fluxbox config, but i have no volume control.
[12:26] <Duality> 3.~
[12:27] <Elvano> Duality: I guess that one works with PHP5 already
[12:27] <sivapvarma> how much does it take to get Skim pdf to work for ubuntu 12.04
[12:27] <johan`> It seems as though xmodmap can't read .Xmodmap for some darn reason
[12:27] <Duality> Elvano: i have php5 installed
[12:28] <Elvano> Duality: That's why I asked. If your Wordpress was too old it might not work on a php5 server
[12:29] <Duality> http://nfolamp.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/apache-favicon-ico-does-not-exist-yes-its-truly-annoying/
[12:29] <Elvano> Duality: I wish someone could clear up my suspecion about permissions
[12:29] <Duality> but that might not be the problem though ..
[12:29] <Duality> i could give a paste on the premissions in the website folder :)
[12:29] <Etale> server irc.relaxedirc.net
[12:29] <Duality> with ls -l
[12:29] <Etale> server irc.relaxed-irc.net
[12:30] <Duality> http://pastebin.com/0M0048RQ
[12:31] <Elvano> Duality: Well, the thing is that when updating to a new version permissions can be overwritten. And I have had some problems with that myself. But I'm no expert to know how your permissions should be set exactly
[12:34] <DetachedScreen> anyone has got a dvb-s card working in linux?
[12:35] <llutz> DetachedScreen: sure
[12:35] <Duality> the acces log says: 213.10.234.78 - - [16/Jun/2012:14:32:56 +0200] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 363 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/12.0"
[12:35] <Duality> when i just now surfed to the website :)
[12:36] <llutz> DetachedScreen: and yes, this answer is as useless as your question ;)   give more details and lets see if we can help you
[12:36] <DetachedScreen> llutz: all modules(b2c2_flexcop) are loaded , but now what?
[12:37] <DetachedScreen> 02:06.0 Network controller: Techsan Electronics Co Ltd B2C2 FlexCopII DVB chip / Technisat SkyStar2 DVB card (rev 02)
[12:38] <llutz> DetachedScreen: modprobe dvb_core
[12:38] <nUwb> Hi everyone. How can I check how much of my ram is being used?
[12:38] <llutz> DetachedScreen: ls -l /dev/dvb/adapter0
[12:39] <DetachedScreen> llutz: all modules/drivers/// /dev/dvb/adapter0 are fine, the probleme is : what do i do now?
[12:39] <Paulo39> hello there. how can i see my partition's uuids?
[12:40] <DetachedScreen> how can i access it?
[12:40] <llutz> DetachedScreen: start a dvb-viewer of your choice, create a channels.conf, enjoy boring tv-program
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> Paulo39  blkid
[12:40] <alankila> Paulo39: maybe: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[12:40] <DetachedScreen> llutz: can you recommend one?
[12:41] <DetachedScreen> a  dvb-viewer i mean
[12:41] <llutz> DetachedScreen: mplayer, vlc, kaffeine, vdr, totem.... i personally use kaffeine because i'm a kde-user
[12:41] <DetachedScreen> how can i create a channels.conf using vlc?
[12:41] <DetachedScreen> because thats the only one that i have
[12:42] <nUwb> Ah, never mind just found it. :P
[12:43] <DetachedScreen> me too, scan -x0 -t1 -s1 /usr/share/dvb/dvb-s/[your satellite]
[12:43] <llutz> DetachedScreen: iirc you'll need to download/generate one and convert it into xspf
[12:43] <DetachedScreen> THANKS llutz
[12:46] <fonix232> hi
[12:46] <fonix232> got some problems with installing Ubuntu, could someone help me out<
[12:46] <fonix232> ?
[12:47] <fonix232> My problem is, that while a live-cd can see all my partitions, the installer itself can't
[12:47] <fonix232> 12.04 LTS from USB installer
[12:47] <fonix232> but same happened with 11.10
[12:49] <Elvano> Duality: I just took the liberty to check the networktraffic  between your server and my client. Your server accepts a connection, and send me data. All works fine, except for the given data is a blank page.
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> fonix232  type sudo fdisk -l while you're in the live session
[12:49] <fonix232> MonkeyDust: I can see my partitions, thats not the problem
[12:49] <fonix232> Nautilus can see them, and can mount them
[12:50] <Duality> Elvano: yes i noticed :) the page source is blank also ...
[12:50] <k1l_> fonix232: you got a special setup like raid or smth? can you show a "sudo fdisk -l" in a pasteservice?
[12:50] <fonix232> k1l_: no I don't have RAID
[12:50] <fonix232> I have three SATA HDD's
[12:50] <chakal^-^> buenos dias
[12:50] <fonix232> two 1TB and a 512GB
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> fonix232  are the partitions named /dev/sdxxx or /dev/mdxxx
[12:50] <fonix232> sdxxx
[12:51] <fonix232> just to note, the two 1TB are dynamic volumes, with one stripped partition across
[12:52] <k1l_> so its a lvm?
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> fonix232  what k1l_ says, put sudo fdisk -l in a pastebin
[12:52] <fonix232> I'm on it
[12:53] <utgenius> Hi! can anyone help me with Ubuntu TV?
[12:54] <fonix232> k1l_: nope, it's Windows dynamic volumes
[12:54] <fonix232> but the drive I want to install ubuntu on is nothing special
[12:55] <fonix232> MonkeyDust: here's the fdisk log
[12:55] <fonix232> http://pastebin.com/zp6AQzDV
[12:55] <xservo> hi! can any1 help me also with my netgear wireless usb
[12:55] <utgenius> Anyone to help on Ubuntu TV?
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> fonix232  do you need all these ntfs partitions? if not, delete the one(s) you don't need with gparted
[12:56] <fonix232> MonkeyDust: yes I need unfortunatelu
[12:56] <fonix232> unfortunately
[12:56] <fonix232> first two are for Windows
[12:57] <fonix232> third is my data and fourth is my work partition
[12:57] <Elvano> Duality: I've just found out that the earlier versions of Wordpress 3 are run on PHP 4. Before you updated, what version of PHP server did you run?
[12:57] <fonix232> btw is it possible that a standard Win7 installer formatted the main drive with GPT?
[12:57] <beershaw> hi i just tried to install ubuntu using the windows installer and it seems to be stuck at a black screen when i try to boot it can someone help me?
[12:57] <Duality> Elvano: php5
[12:57] <xservo> hi i cant install my wireless usb on ubuntu 12.4 --> with this error FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[12:58] <Elvano> Duality: Then I'm out of options. I'm sorry I can't help
[12:58] <Duality> Elvano: i made a copy of my website :) and going to make my server latest version now
[12:58] <gr33n7007h> xservo, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[12:58] <Elvano> Duality: Good luck
[12:58] <Duality> Elvano: Thanks for what you could do ;) and for wanting to help me :)!
[12:59] <xservo> tnx
[12:59] <beershaw> hi i just tried to install ubuntu using the windows installer and it seems to be stuck at a black screen when i try to boot it can someone help me?
[12:59] <Elvano> Duality: You're welcome. Just so furiating I have to leave this one unsolved. I saw this in class a couple of years ago
[13:00] <kosko> i've got Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS how do i find out if it is possible to upgrade my openvpn from 2.1.3 to 2.2.1?
[13:00] <xservo> ndiswrapper-common is already the newest version
[13:00] <Duality> Elvano: know the feeling :)
[13:00] <xservo> i mean it's already installed
[13:01] <beershaw> is there anyone out there?
[13:01] <Elvano> beershaw: So if I understand correctly, you tried to install the Ubuntu on windows, but it failed. And now you can't boot your computer?
[13:02] <beershaw> Hey Elvano yes i used the installed from windows from the official website
[13:02] <beershaw> went through all fine and rebooted the computer
[13:02] <fonix232> MonkeyDust: Problem is: fdisk can see all the partitions, but neither GParted nor the installer can see even the partition table
[13:02] <fonix232> basically it says whole sda is unallocated
[13:02] <beershaw> and when i chose ubuntu i can hear that login drum roll
[13:02] <Duality> beershaw you can run a live cd/usb and do a boot repair :)
[13:02] <beershaw> and then it's stuck on this black screen
[13:03] <beershaw> can i just get that off a website and put it on a usb?
[13:03] <Elvano> beershaw: your windows boots just fine?
[13:03] <fonix232> ah fuck this shit I'm gonna wipe everything
[13:03] <beershaw> yeah i'm on windows now lol
[13:03] <fonix232> fortunately there was no important data anywhere yet
[13:04] <beershaw> windows 7 if that helpto anything
[13:04] <beershaw> *helps
[13:04] <oCean> fonix232: that language is not welcome here
[13:04] <Elvano> beershaw: As Duality suggested you can try to fix your boot
[13:05] <fonix232> sorry oCean, but its really annoying that I had to reinstall windows and Ubuntu still won't install properly
[13:05] <kosko> i've got Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS how do i find out if it is possible to upgrade my openvpn from 2.1.3 to 2.2.1 or newer?
[13:05] <beershaw> Elvano do i just plug the boot usb stick in and reset my comp then and boot from the usb?
[13:05] <Elvano> beershaw: however, it kind of troubles me that you hear the login sound, which pioints out that the boot works .
[13:06] <xservo> fonix232: use disk repair for windows 7
[13:06] <fonix232> xservo: windows works perfectly. Ubuntu won't
[13:06] <xservo> i mean staru repair
[13:06] <beershaw> Elvano it troubles and scares me even more to see my laptop like that lol
[13:06] <xservo> i see
[13:06] <beershaw> tried it twice same result
[13:07] <Elvano> beershaw: Your laptop did you say?
[13:07] <Duality> beershaw if your going to boot from cd/usb (live) and do a grubrepair, youll have a grub menu to windows, and to ubuntu (if the ubuntu install isnt broken)
[13:07] <beershaw> Elvano yes it's an acer aspire laptop
[13:07] <Elvano> beershaw: for some strange reason does Wubi not work on a couple of laptops
[13:07] <xservo> try to configure grub.conf
[13:07] <Elvano> beershaw: i had the same problem with my acer
[13:08] <beershaw> Elvano should i just uninstall it and try installing it from a usb?
[13:08] <fonix232> xservo there is no ubuntu installed, only windows
[13:08] <fonix232> but never mind, as I said, I'm gonna reinstall the whole
[13:08] <fonix232> thanks for the help though
[13:08] <smw> kosko, you can, but there are no packages for it
[13:09] <kosko> smw: so i'll have to compile it ?
[13:09] <smw> kosko, yes, or find another place to get packages
[13:09] <kosko> smw: what kind of place?
[13:09] <smw> kosko, it is not in the official repos
[13:09] <smw> kosko, I have no idea
[13:09] <kosko> smw: thanks
[13:10] <Elvano> beershaw: My solution was simply adding a new partition and install a complete Ubuntu version. Though it's understandable if you do not want this.
[13:11] <beershaw> Elvano yeah don't really wanna make a separate partition cos my laptop HDD is about 70% full lol
[13:11] <i7c> beershaw: so? ubuntu needs like 4GB for the system + some space for software etc
[13:11] <beershaw> i7c yeah but it's effort:(
[13:11] <italoxp> Ubuntu takes more than that
[13:12] <Elvano> beershaw: I recommend at least 20 GB =p
[13:12] <beershaw> i7c and yeah they said 11 Gb at least
[13:12] <beershaw> Elvano that's about wha I got
[13:12] <DjGeCk0> hey. what i need to view m3u8 on my ubuntu vlc player ?
[13:12] <beershaw> Elvano I'll try duality's solution fixing my install and if not i'll just redo it using a usb stick
[13:13] <Elvano> beershaw: did you already try to completely uninstall Wubi? Afterwards check if also the boot for Ubuntu has dissepeared
[13:13] <beershaw> Elvano k i'll try that first
[13:13] <beershaw> thanks a lot for the support guys, defo quicker than googling my problem lol
[13:14] <xservo> cheers
[13:14] <DjGeCk0> hm i would never ask befor googleing
[13:14] <Elvano> same
[13:15] <DjGeCk0> im allready installed a lot of codecs but i still cant play a m3u8 livestream on VLC
[13:15] <DjGeCk0> i tried totem and gecko-player, too
[13:17] <i7c> DjGeCk0: http://askubuntu.com/questions/11508/how-do-i-play-m3u8-files
[13:19] <DjGeCk0> i7c: this are firefox plugins. i can watch it in firefox but not on external players
[13:19] <DjGeCk0> its an rtsp link
[13:19] <Elvano> DjeCk0: No, there is an alternative to the addons described as well
[13:20] <DjGeCk0> k ill take a look on the settings
[13:20] <Elvano> DjeCk0: The HLS player seems to be an independant application to me
[13:24] <|Long|> hi, I need some help with raid 5 anyone plz msg me thanks, will rewards for your time
[13:25] <Elvano> |Long|: this channel is for support on Ubuntu. We're all here to help eachother. Ofcourse before we do, you must state your problem.
[13:31] <pkkm> When I chgrp a file (with chmod rw-rw-r--) to a group that is listed by the command 'groups username', will 'username' be able to modify the file?
[13:31] <mz|`> pkkm: yes as you gave rw- right to the group
[13:32] <mz|`> pkkm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[13:33] <|Long|> Elvano, i have set hardware raid5 on box all seems fine but it didnt show raid on ubuntu 12.04
[13:33] <soup-n-sandwich> Hey guys I'm a bit disappointing with 12.04 and I would like to know if anybody else is seeing inconsistencies and sluggish operation?
[13:34] <pkkm> mz|`: If the user belongs to multiple groups and the file's group isn't the user's primary, will this work too?
[13:34] <mz|`> |Long|: what give 'mdadm --monitor --scan' ? does mdadm start at boot ?
[13:35] <mz|`> pkkm: yes, if he is in the group of the file
[13:35] <mz|`> pkkm: please read the tutorial i gave before ;)
[13:35] <|Long|> mz|, i havent try that yet..let me try it now
[13:36] <paanii> hi everyone, please how do i change the close, minimize, maximize button from right to left
[13:36] <mz|`> soup-n-sandwich: please explain the behaviour/issue you encountered, and what you did to fix it
[13:37] <mz|`> paanii: in the system configuration options
[13:37] <mz|`> paanii: depending on your window manager / desktop manager of course, if those have the option
[13:37] <soup-n-sandwich> mz|`: well I haven't fixed it yet.
[13:37] <mz|`> soup-n-sandwich: so describe the issue in details
[13:38] <soup-n-sandwich> mz|`: ok....
[13:38] <mz|`> soup-n-sandwich: if you don't, whta information can we give you ? :)
[13:39] <Slart> !constrols | paanii
[13:39] <Slart> !controls | paanii
[13:39] <Slart> paanii: I hope that link at the end has some info
[13:41] <Hyperbyte> paanii, are they currently on the right side or on the left side of the window?
[13:41] <Hyperbyte> Because you said you want to move them 'from right to left'
[13:42] <mz|`> time to use a real DM/WM that do not consume 1GB of RAM :D
[13:42] <pkkm> mz|`: The user belongs to the directory's group, directory's permissions are rwxrwxr-x, and still no success. Do I need to somehow refresh permissions? Command line log pasted here: http://pastebin.com/TPaFYEfV (18 lines).
[13:43] <Elvano> paanii: use the ubuntu-tweak application from the software center?
[13:43] <Elvano> paanii: correction, they're not in the center, you need to google it
[13:44] <soup-n-sandwich> On a laptop with an Nvidia card, 1GB , Intel 965 chipset I always remember never having issue with the Nvidia drivers on this laptop but I can't seem to get it working.  I guess it seem like I'm going backwards with the OS.  On the Desktop computer it's also an Nvidia card with 1.5 Gb RAM and a Intel 945 chipset.  Up until now it's always ran "snappy" but now with 12.14 it's sluggish.  It's also very inconsistent.   I've see some
[13:44] <soup-n-sandwich> other ways to install the drives on Nvidia but so far nothing has worked.  I have have big time issues with Samba
[13:45] <mz|`> pkkm: send 'stat /sync/settings' please and also 'groups'
[13:46] <mz|`> but is should work, or i do miss something
[13:46] <llutz> pkkm: if you change groups for a user, the user needs to relogin
[13:47] <mz|`> llutz: exact
[13:48] <pkkm> Weird... the group is shown in 'groups pawel', but not in 'groups'
[13:48] <pkkm> llutz: Is it enough to close and open terminal, or should I log out of GNOME and log in again?
[13:48] <llutz> pkkm: if you change groups for a user, the user needs to relogin <- thats the reason,
[13:49] <llutz> pkkm: you need a login-shell, so closing is not enough
[13:49] <soup-n-sandwich> I've never see Samba this inconsistent.  Computers (6 of them in the same room for testing) that will show up in a Samba browser just disappear...and then won't appear.   Printing is always  non-existing with Samba. No remote printing what so ever so far.
[13:50] <pkkm> Ok, thanks for information mz|` and llutz. I'm going to relogin now.
[13:50] <soup-n-sandwich> It does appear that the same hardware that ran 11.10 very well just doesn't run as well with 12.04.
[13:51] <soup-n-sandwich> Is this something that others are seeing as well?
[13:51] <dudejob> hello, when I use the update manager or the terminal to check for package updates, it downloads the entire index list again and again for no reason and the index list is like 15 MB, my time is being wasted in that, I had changed the updates server after I 1st installed ubuntu, the server is ubuntu.pesat.net.id, any suggestions ?
[13:52] <sachael> anyone using xcompmgr+fluxbox with the 12.04? Xcomp starts with no exceptions but no shadows appear.
[13:53] <DjGeCk0> ah my problem is solved. they got a broken rtsp-link on there website. it works now. thanks :D
[13:55] <dudejob> hello, when I use the update manager or the terminal to check for package updates, it downloads the entire index list again and again for no reason and the index list is like 15 MB, my time is being wasted in that, I had changed the updates server after I 1st installed ubuntu, the server is ubuntu.pesat.net.id, any suggestions ?
[13:55] <kavurt> hi, my webcam doesn't work. i installed libpt-1.1.10... after reboot it worked for one second, then disappeared. any ideas?
[13:55] <sachael> erm, had to quit, anyone said anything on the xcompmgr+fluxbox question?
[13:56] <Elvano> kavurt: what application do you use for your webcam?
[13:56] <kavurt> skype Elvano, but webcam is not available under lspci either
[13:57] <Elvano> kavurt: integrated or external camera?
[13:57] <kavurt> integrated
[13:57] <ethek> #chrome
[13:58] <Elvano> kavurt: what type/brand?
[13:58] <DjGeCk0> try to find out. what is the video-chip in it and maybe the manufacture got a linux-driver
[13:58] <kavurt> intel 82801H Elvano
[13:58] <angs> I use ubuntu 12.04 and would like to use double screen. When I unselect mirror option on the Display, I get this error http://i48.tinypic.com/o9341y.png   whatshould I do?
[13:59] <Elvano> kavurt: I ment the camera itself
[13:59] <dudejob> hello, when I use the update manager or the terminal to check for package updates, it downloads the entire index list again and again for no reason and the index list is like 15 MB, my time is being wasted in that, I had changed the updates server after I 1st installed ubuntu, the server is ubuntu.pesat.net.id, any suggestions ?
[13:59] <Jbarbosa93> hi people
[13:59] <Jbarbosa93> can anyone help me is strange
[14:00] <kavurt> Elvano: i don't really know that
[14:00] <Jbarbosa93> that can anyone help me on the other irc
[14:00] <Jbarbosa93> I have this problem
[14:00] <Jbarbosa93> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/207/workspace1001.jpg/
[14:00] <Jbarbosa93> is installed the windows 7
[14:00] <Jbarbosa93> and in any distro of linux mint ubuntu pinguy
[14:01] <Jbarbosa93> they tell me that the windows has not installed
[14:02] <Jbarbosa93> HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[14:02] <dudejob> !patience | Jbarbosa93,
[14:02] <oCean> Jbarbosa93: please behave
[14:02] <Jbarbosa93> MAN IM SEARCHING IN ONE WEEK AND ANYONE CAN HELP, WHY_
[14:03] <LjL> !caps | Jbarbosa93
[14:03] <TheLordOfTime> Jbarbosa93:  behave please
[14:03] <TheLordOfTime> Jbarbosa93:  and have patience, no need to rage on us
[14:03] <TheLordOfTime> we're only volunteers here
[14:03] <bazhang> Jbarbosa93, lose caps
[14:03] <Jbarbosa93> WTF WITH THE PEOPLE
[14:03] <cuddylier> Anyone any idea on how to get the memory tab on visualvm to show for profiling?
[14:03] <Jbarbosa93> sory
[14:03] <TheLordOfTime> ubottu is lagging!
[14:03] <Elvano> kavurt: I'm looking into something. Hold on, please
[14:03] <LjL> Jbarbosa93: i don't even understand your question anyway, perhaps try spending less time SHOUTING and more explaining
[14:03] <kavurt> ok, thanks Elvano
[14:04] <mz|`> Jbarbosa93: your windows has not bee well installed I think, if it was well installed, ubuntu could detect it
[14:04] <mz|`> or you try to install on a hardware raid maybe
[14:04] <mz|`> been*
[14:04] <dudejob> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.<------------- I like it
[14:04] <Jbarbosa93> mz, the windows is installed
[14:05] <mz|`> i said "well" installed
[14:05] <Jbarbosa93> the linux dont see that the windows is installed
[14:05] <Jbarbosa93> my question is "WHY" _
[14:05] <mz|`> so you screwed the MBR
[14:05] <Jbarbosa93> ?
[14:05] <Elvano> kavurt: Are you sure you have given me the correct type of device?
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> ++++
[14:05] <Jbarbosa93> but what Im suppost to do now? can help?
[14:06] <mz|`> you rewrote the MBR for Ubuntu only
[14:06] <mz|`> yes sure
[14:06] <X-tonic> I read somewhere  that wayland 1.0 is expected within a couple of months.. So should we expect ubuntu to shift to wayland in 13.04 or maybe 12.10? or am i too optimistic?
[14:06] <Jbarbosa93> oh, mz thanks
[14:06] <Jbarbosa93> can u tell me now, what can I do
[14:06] <bazhang> X-tonic, not likely. more like a couple of years
[14:06] <mz|`> please wait ! i'm not a robot
[14:06] <Jbarbosa93> yeah I know
[14:06] <mz|`> tsss...
[14:06] <Jbarbosa93> sorry
[14:06] <kavurt> Elvano: yes, intel 82801H or 82801HM, looks like
[14:07] <Kruptein> since yesterday the sound on youtube is very choppy  while music I play from my hard drive sounds normal, any ideas? :/
[14:07] <Elvano> Kruptein: Hello there, Townsmate
[14:07] <Kruptein> Elvano: do I know you ?
[14:07] <mz|`> Jbarbosa93: easier, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:08] <mz|`> and follow the tutorial
[14:08] <Elvano> Kruptein: No, I'm just surprised to see someone from Leuven here
[14:08] <Kruptein> Elvano: ah ke :p
[14:08] <i7c> Kruptein: are you using youtube with html5? cuz on my machine flash does a lot of strange things sometimes
[14:08] <Jbarbosa93> mz, and the I can run the windows normally?
[14:08] <Kruptein> i7c: it should be html5 unless my settings changed I'll double check it
[14:08] <mz|`> try and you will know.
[14:08] <cuddylier> Anyone any idea on how to get the memory tab on visualvm to show for profiling?
[14:08] <mz|`> i can't do it for you and guess that yes, it will work, or not
[14:08] <Jbarbosa93> ok, can u add me on msn, facebook, skype anyone?
[14:09] <mz|`> no.
[14:09] <mz|`> i'm not a support agent, and you do not pay.
[14:09] <TheLordOfTime> Jbarbosa93:  we dont do that kind of thing.
[14:09] <mz|`> question for all: what world is it ? or what world i'm in ?
[14:09] <mz|`> just for information
[14:10] <LjL> what
[14:10] <Jbarbosa93> yeah, but think, if this "fuck" my pc ?
[14:10] <angs> I use ubuntu 12.04 and would like to use double screen. When I unselect mirror option on the Display, I get this error http://i48.tinypic.com/o9341y.png   whatshould I do?
[14:10] <mz|`> Jbarbosa93: it is already fucked !
[14:10] <bazhang> Jbarbosa93, no cursing
[14:10] <LjL> language language language
[14:10] <mz|`> sorry
[14:10] <bazhang> mz|`, you too
[14:10] <Jbarbosa93> sorry, Im not language
[14:10] <mz|`> wow
[14:10] <Jbarbosa93> english
[14:10] <Elvano> kavurt: Sorry, I can't find anything on that type of device
[14:10] <Kruptein> i7c yh html5 is enabled
[14:11] <Jbarbosa93> its not fu**, the windows works very good
[14:11] <kavurt> Elvano: thanks for looking
[14:11] <oCean> Jbarbosa93: STOP that language, swearing / foul language is NOT allowed here
[14:12]  * Dr_Willis hasent even noticed an actual question.. but i did get disconnected..
[14:12] <cuddylier> Anyone any idea on how to get the memory tab on visualvm to show for profiling?
[14:12] <cuddylier> There is one :)
[14:12] <Jbarbosa93> man what u want?
[14:12] <Jbarbosa93> baby I ve got it
[14:12] <Jbarbosa93> what u need
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> state the problem in a clearn concise way.
[14:12] <Kruptein> thanks oCean :)
[14:13] <mz|`> cuddylier: already read the documentation ? see http://visualvm.java.net/profiler.html
[14:13] <Elvano> I only wonder why you don't let the bots do some language filtering
[14:13] <cuddylier> Thanks mz
[14:14] <sachael> any simple compositing manager for fluxbox that still works? tried cair and xcompgr, neither works. Xcomp worked flawlessly on Arch and the previous ubuntu version, but not anymore. D:
[14:14]  * mz|` did nothing but searching the documentation...
[14:14] <cuddylier> mz|' I've already looked at that. I have no profiler for some reason, other people have one for the same application though
[14:14] <cuddylier> No profiler tab I mean
[14:15] <mz|`> cuddylier: you forgot to isntall some dependencies/packages/modules
[14:15] <cuddylier> Which ones do I need to install?
[14:15] <cuddylier> Someone else did remote profiling on my machine
[14:15] <Elvano> Well lot, I'm off.  May all your (relevant) questions find a suitable answer
[14:15] <cuddylier> Do the files need to be installed on my computer were I am doing the profiling from, mz|'
[14:16] <mz|`> cuddylier: did you dump before profiling ?
[14:16] <cuddylier> No
[14:16] <cuddylier> Is that why?
[14:16] <mz|`> http://visualvm.java.net/gettingstarted.html
[14:16] <mz|`> please read the documentation and apply the beginning
[14:17] <mz|`> if you do not have the dumps, you will not be able to debug/profile them
[14:17] <cuddylier> Ah, okay
[14:17] <cuddylier> I'm able to sample file
[14:17] <cuddylier> fine*
[14:17] <noname120> h guys
[14:17] <noname120> * i guys
[14:17] <noname120> I've xubuntu 21 and my b43 wifi chip doesn't work
[14:17] <noname120> (works with windows xp)
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> !broadcom
[14:18] <Hev> grr
[14:18] <Kruptein> grrr
[14:19] <cuddylier> mz|' I've done that as well, what it says for the profiling tab, I don't even have the tab for some reason :S
[14:19] <Hev> Cant download things from the ubuntu softwarethingy
[14:19] <Kruptein> hev can you explain a bit more what is happening?
[14:19] <Hev> Failed to fetch http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/liba/libav-extra/libavutil-extra-51_0.8.1ubuntu1_i386.deb Could not connect to nl.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (213.136.29.211). - connect (110: Connection timed out)
[14:20] <TheLordOfTime> Hev:  try a different archive mirror?
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> server may be down or lagging?
[14:20] <Hev> can someone confirm that?
[14:20] <Kruptein> yh hev servers are down
[14:20] <Kruptein> if you surf to nl.archive.ubuntu.com  nothing happens  another language does work
[14:21] <Hev> when will it be up again?
[14:21] <Kruptein> they should be looking into it atm
[14:21] <Kruptein> no idea how long those things tend to take though
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> Hev:  err.. how should we know? ;)
[14:21] <cuddylier> What happens when I do a heap dump?
[14:21] <Hev> Good luck, i'll sit down and wait
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> you could switch to another server
[14:22] <Hev> will try that.
[14:22] <Hev> bye
[14:22] <Chuck_Norris> why don't you try main server Hev ?
[14:22] <Hev> which is?
[14:22] <Kruptein> Chuck_Norris: I always use my localized server
[14:22] <noname120> I've the sta driver installed
[14:22] <noname120> And this isn't working
[14:22] <Chuck_Norris> its appear like main let me paste a picture
[14:22] <mz|`> ccu	remote or local ?
[14:23] <oCean> Hev: or change your repos from nl.  to de.archive.ubuntu.com
[14:23] <mz|`> erf, cuddylier : remote / local ?
[14:23] <noname120> broadcom 4311
[14:23] <edgy> Hi, any one with experience in lvm? I am still cannot solve my issue: update-grub shows lots of "error: physical volume pv0 not found." as seen at http://pastebin.ca/2161784, http://pastebin.ca/2161798
[14:23] <noname120> Please help me
[14:23] <noname120> I tried everything to get my boradcom 4311 working but nothing is working !
[14:23] <angs> I use ubuntu 12.04 and would like to use double screen. When I unselect mirror option on the Display, I get this error http://i48.tinypic.com/o9341y.png   whatshould I do?
[14:23] <noname120> It's working fine on backtrack and windows
[14:24] <noname120> but not on ubuntu !
[14:24] <Kruptein> angs try the nvidia config if you have nvidia
[14:24] <noname120> Dr_Willis
[14:24] <Kruptein> don't know which one ati uses
[14:24] <Kruptein> my external monitor doesn't even show op in the screen window :p
[14:25] <vidirr_> Did the fix the issue with Nvidia Optimus cards and the HDMI port?
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> All i know on broadcom is in that factoid...
[14:25] <angs> nvidia config > nvidia: command not found
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> its nvidia-config I belive
[14:25] <Kruptein> it's nvidia x server settins
[14:26] <angs> should I apt-get install nvidia?
[14:26] <Kruptein> ah the name of the command
[14:26] <mz|`> noname120: you can try to install from sources (using broadcom website download page) or ndiswrapper with the windows driver
[14:26] <Kruptein> nvidia-settings indeed
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> If you have nvidia gpu. You would want the nvidia drivers
[14:26] <Kruptein> or nvidia-xconfig
[14:26] <morsnowski> noname120, dik you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_(ndiswrapper)
[14:26] <angs> nvidia-config: command not found
[14:26] <kish> help, i installed ubuntu-desktop in kubuntu but i cant uninstall all the programs that crap brought on
[14:26] <mz|`> noname120: you can also try to blacklist b43 module and ssb one
[14:26] <noname120> ok
[14:27] <noname120> I'm new to linux
[14:27] <Kruptein> angs it's nvidia-settings :p
[14:27] <angs> Kruptein: nvidia-settings: command not foun
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> !find nvidia-settings
[14:27] <Kruptein> do you have nvidia in the first place?
[14:27] <Kruptein> if so do you have the drivers
[14:27] <angs> I do n't know
[14:27] <vidirr_> I'd use Bumblebee
[14:28] <angs> how can I search it?
[14:28] <vidirr_> instead of nvidia
[14:28] <angs> by command?
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> lspci  shows your video and other cards.
[14:28] <Chuck_Norris> noname120: try: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[14:28] <noname120> ok
[14:28] <noname120> I already tried this
[14:29] <noname120> I also tried to blacklist
[14:29] <noname120> I'm new to linux, I may do the things in a wrong way
[14:29] <mz|`> blacklist needs reboot
[14:29] <noname120> yes
[14:29] <noname120> I rebooteed
[14:29] <edgy> Hi, update-grub shows lots of "error: physical volume pv0 not found." as seen at http://pastebin.ca/2161784, http://pastebin.ca/2161798
[14:29] <noname120> What command should I issueand give you the answer ?
[14:30] <angs> Kruptein System Settings > Hardware > additional Drivers shows "ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver"
[14:30] <Kruptein> lol
[14:30] <cuddylier> Why does visual vm say "Not available. Remote applications are not supported."
[14:30] <cuddylier> For memory
[14:30] <Kruptein> angs look for some settings/configuration manager by ati
[14:30] <cuddylier> Why does visual vm say "Not available. Remote applications are not supported." for memory monitoring?
[14:30] <cuddylier> oops
[14:30] <mz|`> cuddylier: different versions on the remote and local install
[14:30] <cuddylier> Ohhh
[14:30]  * Dr_Willis wonders what 'Visual Vm' is
[14:30] <mz|`> that is your uissue and why you can not profile on remote
[14:30] <cuddylier> How do I check the local install?
[14:30] <cuddylier> I really need memory
[14:31] <noname120> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11a/b/g (rev 01)
[14:31] <noname120> Is it fine ?
[14:31] <mz|`> java -version
[14:31] <mz|`> cuddylier:
[14:31] <cuddylier> Okay
[14:32] <Chuck_Norris> noname120: did you try this: "firmware-b43-lpphy-installer"
[14:32] <cuddylier> Oh...Is it because my java on my computer is different?
[14:32] <mz|`> cuddylier: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1755819/cpu-and-profiling-not-supported-for-remote-jvisualvm-session
[14:32] <cuddylier> The thing is CPU is supported
[14:32] <mz|`> "Get the latest version of visual vm 1.2.1 and download the VisaulVM-Sampler. This will read from a JMX connection to show the profiling information"
[14:32] <noname120> Chuck_Norris : I tried this, it says incompatible wifi chip
[14:32] <Chuck_Norris> ok
[14:34] <noname120> Chuck_Norris : any idea ?
[14:34] <cuddylier> mz|' How do I check the local version of the actual visualvm on my server computer?
[14:34] <Chuck_Norris> noname120: paste: lsmod
[14:34] <Chuck_Norris> no idea so far
[14:34] <mz|`> cuddylier: i already send you the command
[14:34] <cuddylier> Is that not java?
[14:34] <szal> !paste | noname120
[14:34] <noname120> Chuck_Norris : http://pastebin.com/ttEJ0rWG
[14:34] <mz|`> read the previous link/tutorial from stackoverflow please
[14:34] <cuddylier> Okay
[14:35] <KRomeleoN> i keep getting an error, can someone read the pastebin for me and help?
[14:35] <noname120> Chuck_Norris : saw that ? --> http://pastebin.com/ttEJ0rWG
[14:35] <KRomeleoN> http://pastebin.com/J9qijKEA
[14:35] <merlin1991> hey, I'm trying to crosscompile 32bit from a 64bit ubuntu, though it keeps failing at the linking stage: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1044082/
[14:35] <Chuck_Norris> yes
[14:35] <KRomeleoN> x.org diagnosis tool ill not install in updates
[14:35] <merlin1991> any reason why the linker searches in the wrong path?
[14:36] <thedingo> Could someone help me with libimobiledevice? I cannot get it to work no matter what I do
[14:36] <Segnale007> dumb question.. anyone knows where I can look for a decent window theme for gnome??
[14:36] <cuddylier> mz|' I have java version "1.7.0_03" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_03-b05) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 22.1-b02, mixed mode)
[14:37] <totem> !lts
[14:37] <Segnale007> just a normal one .. all I have seen so far looks like osx wannabe
[14:37] <mz|`> Segnale007: install lxde
[14:37] <Segnale007> is it faster than gnome ?
[14:37] <Segnale007> and can I still use unity within lxde ?
[14:37] <mz|`> it can be, depends on what you do ...
[14:37] <mz|`> Segnale007: no.
[14:37] <Segnale007> oh ok ..
[14:38] <Segnale007> I like unity
[14:38] <Segnale007> thats the only thing I like from gnome so far ..
[14:38] <Segnale007> but I will keep lxde on mind ..
[14:38] <thedingo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1044092/ Whenever I type "make" this comes up. Pretty sure I downloaded all the necessary dev packages and what not
[14:38] <Segnale007> I dont do any fancy shit though
[14:38] <Kruptein> Segnale007: http://gnome-look.org/
[14:38] <Segnale007> my desktop is 100% clean
[14:38] <Kruptein> so is mine
[14:38] <Segnale007> thanks Kruptein
[14:38] <mz|`> my i3wm is clean also.
[14:39] <Kruptein> now hope you find something you like :)
[14:39] <Segnale007> I use i3wm on my freebsd workstation
[14:39] <IdleOne> Segnale007: Please keep the language clean.
[14:39] <Segnale007> its certainly fun
[14:40] <Segnale007> especially when u dont need any actual window manager
[14:40] <KRomeleoN> i keep getting an error, can someone read the pastebin for me and help?
[14:40] <Segnale007> but on a desktop I wont go with it
[14:40] <Segnale007> IdleOne, what did I say ?
[14:40] <cuddylier> mz|' My server has java 6 and I have java 7, is that the problem? Although someone I know could do it with java 7 on the java 6 machine..
[14:40] <IdleOne> Segnale007: the S word is not acceptable.
[14:41] <Segnale007> LMFAO
[14:41] <Segnale007> ok
[14:41] <IdleOne> that acronym isn't either
[14:41] <oCean> Segnale007: such language/acronyms are not welcome here
[14:41] <mz|`> cuddylier: yes it is. why would you use different versions to develop on the same system ?
[14:41] <Segnale007> I guess I am not welcomed either
[14:41] <szymon_g> hi
[14:41] <Segnale007> anyways
[14:41] <Segnale007> brb
[14:41] <mz|`> if you want to be coherent, use always the same version on all systems
[14:41] <oCean> Segnale007: sure, just stick to our guidelines
[14:41] <oCean> !guidelines | Segnale007
[14:41] <thedingo> Everyone jumps on a person for saying a harmless word, but nobody jumps in to help answer a question...
[14:41] <cuddylier> mz|' I just installed java 7 on my own PC and I installed java 6 as I was given the command
[14:42] <szymon_g> what did he do, if may i ask?
[14:42] <cuddylier> Although, I dont understand why the other guy can do it with java 7 installed
[14:42] <mz|`> cuddylier: ask him ?
[14:42] <cuddylier> He doesn't want to exactly tell me
[14:42] <mz|`> hahaaa
[14:44] <angs> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dual-monitors-with-nvidia.html says to type "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx", terminal shows "Package nvidia-glx is not available, but is referred to by another package." for that. what should I do?
[14:44] <thedingo> ...Guess I'll post it again... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1044092/
[14:44] <Kruptein> angs it says "with nvidia"  you have "ati"   ati is not the same as nvidia
[14:44] <mz|`> angs, aptitude show nvidia-glx
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> angs:   you dont a 'sudo apt-get update' lately? I just install the nvidia-current package normally
[14:44] <Kruptein> angs search for dual monitors with ati fglrx or somehting
[14:45] <KRomeleoN> i wish Actionparsnip were here :(
[14:45] <Kruptein> KRomeleoN: why?
[14:45] <Kruptein> KRomeleoN: what's your problem
[14:45] <angs> thank you
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> but Nvidia is not for ATI.. so im confused now.
[14:45] <Kruptein> Dr_Willis: I think he is as well :p
[14:45] <KRomeleoN> Kruptein, http://pastebin.com/J9qijKEA
[14:45] <angs> I did apt-get update upgrade today, I have ATI radeon
[14:46] <KRomeleoN> sw updater says there is an update for x.org diagnosis tool but it wont update
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> angs:  then you dont need anything to do with Nvidia.
[14:46] <angs> yes, right :)
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> KRomeleoN:  try a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[14:46] <Kruptein> KRomeleoN: there is a bug in the program you try to update/install so I don't think that's gonna work out soon
[14:47] <Kruptein> unless you modify the python file yourself
[14:47] <KRomeleoN> ok
[14:47] <Kruptein> i'll see if I can find something wait
[14:47] <KRomeleoN> its an ubuntu update
[14:47] <oCean> thedingo: seems it misses a plist++ library, is libplist++1 installed?
[14:47] <bavarian001> Hi
[14:47] <Kruptein> yh there are a couple of bug reports about it KRomeleoN
[14:48] <KRomeleoN> oh ok
[14:48] <KRomeleoN> how do you find that?
[14:48] <Kruptein> yh the file in particular that gives the problem is not converted to python 3 lol
[14:48] <Kruptein> KRomeleoN:  google ;) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdiagnose/+bug/1013911
[14:48] <KRomeleoN> cool, thanks bro
[14:48] <bavarian001> Tried to install 11.04 on a RAID o, but the bootloader could not be installed. Is RAID 0 not possible?
[14:48] <Kruptein> KRomeleoN: bug was fixed in 2.8 try install that
[14:49] <mz|`> bavarian001: depends where you try to install it
[14:49] <mz|`> try /dev/mapper/youmappedraid or /dev/sda
[14:49] <Bunie> how do i mount a drive?
[14:50] <mz|`> man mount
[14:50] <Kruptein> Bunie did you at least try to google it
[14:50] <bavarian001> ASUS board with Intel i7 an 2 HDs of 1.0TB as a RAID0
[14:50] <thedingo> oCean: Just installed it. Is it normal for it to say "Nothing to be done in..." "Exiting directory"?
[14:50] <thedingo> Leaving* rather
[14:50] <Segnale007> back
[14:51] <Segnale007> I have download a bunch of window theme from here http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity
[14:51] <Segnale007> when I unpack the ariche it mention metacity
[14:51] <oCean> thedingo: I am not sure, not an expert in compiling .. but I have seen it before
[14:51] <Segnale007> or something
[14:51] <mz|`> thedingo: if all has been already compiled in the dir, yes
[14:51] <Segnale007> how do I install that ??
[14:51] <mz|`> thedingo: make clean ; make all
[14:52] <thedingo> mz|`: make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
[14:52] <mz|`> make clean will remove generally .o files (compiled one) for C language
[14:52] <mz|`> so the makefile does not have this rule
[14:52] <mz|`> rm -r *.o
[14:52] <szymon_g> mz|`: isn't easier to use checkinstall instead of just 'make all"?
[14:53] <szymon_g> i.e. less messy
[14:53] <mz|`> depends on the source you are trying to compile I think
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> Segnale007:  with gnome3 in 12.04 the whole themeing system has sort of been redone. Best to just use various ppa's and repos to get differnt themes. Webupd8 has a nice collection. and theres some in the default repos also.
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[14:54] <Segnale007> Dr_Willis, thanks
[14:54] <thedingo> and now this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1044116/
[14:54] <Bunie> no wonder ppl dont use linux ._.
[14:54] <Bunie> lol
[14:54] <Bunie> shouldnt take half an hour to figure out how to mount a drive
[14:54] <thedingo> Bunie: it's driving me crazy, but I'm determined :P
[14:55] <mz|`> thedingo: declare the varaible
[14:55] <Chuck_Norris> Bunie: just plugin and you will see it into Nautilus
[14:55] <gr33n7007h> Bunie, fdisk -l; mkdir /mnt/HDD; mount /dev/sd* /mnt/HDD
[14:55] <oCean> !mount | Bunie
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> Bunie  create a folder with an easy name, then type sudo mount /dev/blah [that name]
[14:55] <Chuck_Norris> Bunie: in the left side of nautilus
[14:55] <Bunie> you say HDD, you mean SDA0 or something, i dont even know
[14:55] <thedingo> oCean: ...yes...
[14:56] <thedingo> or rather mz|` said it....
[14:56] <mz|`> thedingo: add a line like "long long int64_t zip_int64_t;"
[14:56] <thedingo> in the make file?
[14:56] <mz|`> in ideviceinstaller.c before line 167
[14:57] <thedingo> ahh i see
[14:57]  * mz|` tries to remember its C courses and projects
[14:57] <bavarian001> What do have to do to make an installation on a RAID 0?
[14:58] <mz|`> bavarian001: choose the good location to install Grub ?
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> !raid| bavarian001
[14:58] <mz|`> already answered to you : try /dev/mapper/youmappedraid or /dev/sda
[14:59] <bavarian001> the first Link is for the old version 9.10
[14:59] <thedingo> mz|`: still not working
[14:59] <oCean> thedingo: please note that yours is a compiling issue, not an Ubuntu issue. You may find help in ##programming or with the maintainers of whatever you try to install
[14:59] <dwakar> can i upgrade xubuntu with a ubuntu live cd?
[14:59] <mz|`> thedingo: i won't debug your program, sorry
[14:59] <oCean> exactly, it is offtopic
[14:59] <mz|`> dwakar: you can upgrade using the own system
[15:00] <thedingo> alright
[15:00] <dwakar> what do  you mean by own system
[15:00] <mz|`> the xubuntu system you are running currently
[15:00] <mz|`> sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:01] <noname120> About my broadcom chip
[15:01] <noname120> I followed everything here
[15:01] <noname120> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29
[15:01] <dwakar> mz| you mean use update manager
[15:01] <paanii> please how do i move the close, minimize, and maximize button from right to left
[15:01] <dwakar> oh i see
[15:01] <noname120> But with sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[15:01] <noname120> I get
[15:01] <noname120> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release. FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[15:01] <noname120> What's wrong ?
[15:01] <mz|`> you blacklisted ndiswrapper ?!
[15:02] <noname120> How can I do that ?
[15:02] <tshauck> Hi, I have a single ubuntu server box.  I'd like to run a few servers (apache, postgres) on top of it - what would be the best way to do that.  I've heard virtualization, but I'm not sure
[15:02] <llutz> !info libimobiledevice2 | thedingo   may i ask why you don't use the version from the repo?
[15:02]  * mz|` needs a break
[15:02] <noname120> mz|'
[15:02] <noname120> please help me
[15:02] <noname120> before having a break
[15:03] <noname120> mz|`
[15:03] <dwakar> then i have to first install ubuntu-desktop
[15:03] <mz|`> excuse me ?
[15:03] <oCean> noname120: let him have his break, stop pinging him
[15:03] <dwakar> to upgrade from a cd
[15:03] <noname120> I'm wondering why installing a driver on windows is so easy wheras installing one on linux is so aweful
[15:03] <thedingo> llutz: i tried. it's not working for me. I added the LaunchPad repo (which was a whole thing in and of itself) and when ever I try an apt-get it says it can't find the package
[15:04] <llutz> thedingo: it is in main, no launchpad repo needed
[15:04] <oCean> because of closed source noname120
[15:04] <noname120> yes
[15:04] <thedingo> either way. it doesn't work for me
[15:04] <noname120> but this is x6 anyways
[15:04] <llutz> thedingo: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libimobiledevice2
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> noname120  because the developers don't like linux
[15:04] <noname120> Does it use win32 api ?
[15:04] <noname120> I don't think so
[15:05] <thedingo> llutz: i've tried that as well
[15:05] <noname120> Anyways, as a dev, I can't stay on windows
[15:05] <llutz> !work | thedingo
[15:05] <thedingo> Am I missing a repo or something?
[15:05] <noname120> But my wlan is not working on linux :/
[15:05] <llutz> thedingo: "lsb_release -sc"  says what?
[15:05] <thedingo> llutz: it just says package not found
[15:05] <drecute> Hello. I will like to know; how do I enable vlan support in network-manager?
[15:06] <thedingo> llutz: command not found...
[15:06] <llutz> thedingo: so you're not using ubuntu?
[15:06] <thedingo> i have all ubuntu repos...
[15:06] <llutz> thedingo: so you're not using ubuntu?
[15:07] <thedingo> i'm going to school for network admin and infosec so I have backtrack which I was told is essentially ubuntu with programs pre-installed
[15:07] <llutz> !backtrack | thedingo
[15:07] <thedingo> gracias
[15:07] <bazhang> thedingo, get the bt support chan
[15:07] <dwakar> how do i retain my files and installed packages when upgrading
[15:08] <thedingo> llutz: i appreciate you sending me in the right direction :D
[15:08] <noob1204> hi / hola everyone
[15:08] <Lil> drecute; Here you go.. http://bit.ly/NwLXyA
[15:08] <go8765> is nayway to use .ima in ubuntu?
[15:08] <noob1204> anyone here can help me with a windows7 + ubuntu thing?
[15:08] <oCean> Lil: do NOT use lmgtfy links here
[15:08] <go8765> i need to mount it like .iso
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> noname120  if you're sweet
[15:08] <schnuffle> dwakar: apps installed rfom the original repos will be upgraded other stuff needs to be reinstalled
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> noob1204  if you're sweet
[15:09] <noob1204> thank you MonkeyDust
[15:09] <thedingo> except I can't message that channel...
[15:09] <tshauck> Hi, I have a single ubuntu server box.  I'd like to run a few servers (apache, postgres) on top of it - what would be the best way to do that.  I've heard virtualization, but I'm not sure
[15:09] <dwakar> schnuffle and my personal files
[15:09] <llutz> !register | thedingo
[15:09] <schnuffle> tshauck: check for openvz, lxc
[15:09] <noob1204> the thing is that i just installed windows 7, and when i boot from USB to install ubuntu, it does not recognize my windows 7 partitions, and try to installa in the whole disk
[15:09] <noname120> MonkeyDust : what if I'm sweet ?
[15:10] <noob1204> anyone knows how to fix this?
[15:10] <thedingo> llutz: is there a way to recover my password for this nick?
[15:10] <schnuffle> dwakar: won't be touched altough its always a good idea to have a backup
[15:10] <Jak2000> any advice why apt-get update fail: http://pastebin.com/HgYg9nRW ?
[15:10] <llutz> thedingo: ask in #freenode, idk
[15:10] <tshauck> schnuffle, I'll look, thanks
[15:10] <dwakar> schnuffle any good backup softwares in your mind
[15:10] <noname120> Anyone does know how to fix b43 wifi chip ?
[15:11] <schnuffle> dwakar: duplicity is a nice tool but there are hundreds
[15:11] <dwakar> schnuffle oh thanks
[15:12] <schnuffle> dwakar: depends on you being more GUI or terminal orientated
[15:12] <OerHeks> noname120, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx all you need is " sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer " and reboot
[15:12] <szymon_g> Jak2000: did you run sudo dpkg --configure -a as it is suggested?
[15:12] <dwakar> schnuffle i can work with any thing
[15:13] <dwakar> schnuffle somewhere i've heard about rsync
[15:13] <dwakar> what is it
[15:13] <szymon_g> dwakar: rsync ;)?
[15:13] <schnuffle> dwakar: Backup on external HDD, other network?
[15:13] <szymon_g> ah, too late
[15:13] <noob1204> any help?
[15:13] <schnuffle> dwakar: duplicity is a frontend to rsync
[15:14] <dwakar> schnuffle oh thanks for that insight
[15:14] <Erealz> i need help setting up a at home openvp server. is this the right channel or no?
[15:14] <szymon_g> noob1204: how many partitions have you? do you have any free, unallocated space on it?
[15:14] <schnuffle> Erealz: I guess not really but just ask. What is your problem as openvpn is very easy to setup
[15:14] <dwakar> schnuffle how about migrating a virtual system to my hard drive
[15:15] <noob1204> szymon_g : yes, i have free space, i have the loader 100mb partition and windows 120gb partition, disk is 320Gb
[15:15] <dwakar> i mean ubuntu in virtual box or something like that
[15:15] <noob1204> szymon_g (thank you btw)
[15:15] <schnuffle> dwakar:  that is possible but needs some knowledge
[15:16] <dwakar> schnuffle what kind of knowledge.
[15:16] <oCean> Erealz: there is a specific #openvpn channel
[15:16] <dwakar> schnuffle can you do that with rsync
[15:16] <schnuffle> dwakar: How to handle partitions, debootstrap and a general knowledge of the shell e.g. bash
[15:17] <Erealz> well iv never set one up on ubuntu
[15:17] <szymon_g> noob1204: are you installing it from usb? did you convert "live cd" image to usbdrive?
[15:17] <Erealz> you know what ill be back guys
[15:17] <schnuffle> dwakar: with lxc and openvz yes, with Xen,KVM no
[15:17] <Erealz> i gota get to work
[15:17] <Erealz> bye
[15:18] <szymon_g> maybe try "alternate cd"- i find the installer there better (in semigraphical mode) than livecd's
[15:18] <KRomeleoN> can someone heklp me?
[15:18] <schnuffle> dwakar: not really true you could even do it with Rsync on an LVM VM but all depends on the setup
[15:18] <noob1204> szymon_g downloaded iso from ubuntu.com, and then made a bootable USB following guide on ubuntu.com (from a macosx computer)
[15:18] <noob1204> szymon_g i have no DVD drive btw
[15:19] <szymon_g> wouldn't it be better to install it from dvd than?
[15:19] <noob1204> i have no dvd drive :)
[15:19] <justntime> every time I boot, grub comes up.  I couldn't find menu.lst
[15:19] <schnuffle> noob1204: USB is the way I go as well and it works perfect
[15:19] <szymon_g> ah, crap, i haven't seem the "no"
[15:19] <szymon_g> sorry for that
[15:19] <noob1204> is there a way to check if its an installer issue or anything?
[15:20] <noob1204> my mobo is a Z68 gigabyte, maybe too new for ubuntu?
[15:20] <justntime> how do I set grub to not pop up every time I reboot
[15:20] <szymon_g> noob1204: i had an issue with that kind of installer, but i'm not sure that's its fault
[15:20] <szymon_g> (in my case- it installed only base system, everything else it wanted to download from network)
[15:20] <schnuffle> noob1204: have you tried manual partitioning to see if your W7 partition apears
[15:21] <dwakar> schnuffle no wonder people look for lts
[15:21] <noob1204> schnuffle: im afraid i **** the disk
[15:21] <noob1204> is it a ctrl-z thing i can try?=
[15:21] <schnuffle> justntime: the conf is done in /etc/default/grub
[15:21] <szymon_g> noob1204: yes
[15:22] <justntime> schnuffle, that all looks right, and I ran update-grub
[15:22] <noob1204> ill try the manual thing and report back
[15:22] <schnuffle> noob1204: no and it depends on what you have done to your partition table
[15:23] <noob1204> no way
[15:23] <noob1204> still dont recognize the partitions on sda
[15:23] <noob1204> but it list sda as a target drive :S
[15:24] <noob1204> i can see /dev/sda1 and /dev /sda2 in /dev
[15:24] <schnuffle> justntime: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Configuring_GRUB_2 to check how to change the config
[15:24] <paanii> hi guys
[15:24] <schnuffle> noob1204: paste sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[15:25] <paanii> i want to tweak my ubuntu 12.04
[15:25] <schnuffle> paanii: the go ahead :)
[15:25] <karl-augustt> please, I'm searching a pdf file witch talk about linux scrach
[15:25] <noob1204> /dev/sda1   *        2048      206847      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[15:25] <noob1204> /dev/sda2          206848   245762047   122777600    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[15:26] <schnuffle> noob1204: So apparently both windows partitions are still there
[15:26] <noob1204> yes
[15:27] <noob1204> my boyfriend is not back until next week... my old pc died and i thought i could restore my ubuntu... but seems i still need to learn more ahah
[15:27] <schnuffle> noob1204: does the second partition occupy the whole HDD. I that case you need to resize it and make some place for uuntu
[15:27] <noob1204> no no
[15:27] <noob1204> second partition is just 120gb
[15:27] <noob1204> disk is 320gb
[15:27] <noob1204> btw installer displays "320gb free"
[15:27] <justntime> did you lose anything that you needed though is the question
[15:27] <paanii> schnuffle: finally made the move to ubuntu fully
[15:28] <mneptok> noob1204: "df -h" to pastebin, please
[15:28] <noob1204> http://pastebin.com/ss0eYJuM
[15:28] <paanii> what app will help me tweak my ubuntu 12.04 fast and well
[15:29] <schnuffle> paanii: if you like tweaking your system unity may not be what you look for as for the moment it's not very well customizable
[15:29] <Alan502> I just installed dnsmasq but something weird is happening! I can access all websites but google on my borwser. Dig google.com does return an ip but when I try to use my computer it doesn't work??
[15:29] <schnuffle> paanii: it should run well from the beginning
[15:30] <paanii> i want to move the close button from right to left
[15:30] <Sparky712> haha, I have victory! and.. defeat. >.<  right... i finally managed to install it using the ACPI workaround option (though im not sure whether that was the reason) but now I load it and it freezes at the purple screen. what can I do?
[15:30] <noob1204> as i see in df -h not any win partition is mounted.... maybe is this the problem?
[15:30] <noob1204> should i mount them?
[15:30] <mneptok> noob1204: your disk at "sda" has 2 partitions. they are both formatted for some Microsoft-y filesystem. to use that disk, you will need to destroy or resize the partitions you have on there.
[15:30] <paanii> it does run fine
[15:31] <mneptok> noob1204: do you care about the data on that disk?
[15:31] <noob1204> mneptok my old pc had 5 partitions, i guess thats not the issue
[15:31] <k1l>  paanii take a look at myunity
[15:31] <schnuffle> paanii: so what do you want to tweak? Keep in mind tweaking without really knowing often leads to a crashed system, like playing around in the Windows Registry
[15:31] <alex_____> I am going to install INN2 from source the news home directory is in /var/spool/news if when I run ./configure I add --prefix=/home/news what would happen?
[15:31] <mneptok> noob1204: the disk is from that "old pc" and has not been formatted in any way since?
[15:32] <paanii> schnuffle: i want to move the close and minimize button from right to left
[15:32] <noname120> i tried to make ndiswraper
[15:32] <noname120> I get the following
[15:32] <noname120> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1044182/
[15:32] <noname120> what's wrong ?
[15:32] <FloodBot1> noname120: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:33] <schnuffle> paanii: For that stuff you'll need to ask somebody else. I'm in no way a GUI expert as I don't care :)
[15:33] <noob1204> mneptok disk is new, and windows 7 is already installed (fresh), old disk died with mobo, i have a backup of my things so thats not an issue
[15:33] <paanii> k1l: i have myunity but it doesnt move the close buttons
[15:33] <k1l> paanii: they should be left. or did you bring them manually to the right or do you use a theme which does
[15:33] <noname120> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1044182/
[15:34] <noname120> It's not working, can anyone tell me what's wrong
[15:34] <mneptok> noob1204: aha! this is some disk that came with a new computer? (y bien gracias por tu Ingles. ex excelente.)
[15:34] <mneptok> *es
[15:34] <schnuffle> I'm off wish all of you good luck
[15:34] <Sparky712> noname, detail your problem here.
[15:35] <paanii> k1l: i guess so
[15:35] <sachael> i installed xubuntu-desktop to try it, and it replaced the default boot/shutdown animations. Is there a way to restore them?
[15:35] <joeko> Can anyone recommend a java text to speech library
[15:35] <Sparky712> and can someone please help me with this -  right... i finally managed to install it using the ACPI workaround option (though im not sure whether that was the reason) but now I load it and it freezes at the purple screen. what can I do?
[15:35] <noob1204> mneptok disk was working on my bf computer as a data disk, but it was fully formated from windows installer, its 3 months old. (thanks ^^)
[15:35] <paanii> k1l: and i want to restore it back to the left like in MAC
[15:36] <oleg> Привет всем
[15:36] <noname120> Sparky712 : My broadcom chip isn't working, that why I try ndiswrapper to use the original windows driver. But when issuing "make", I get the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1044182/   Sparky712
[15:36] <oleg> Hello
[15:36] <wylde_> !ru | oleg
[15:36] <mneptok> noob1204: OK, so if you can kill all data on that disk and never worry (you do not need anything), just ask the installer to create a new GPT-format partition table on that disk. then you will be able to make the partitions you want.
[15:36] <oleg>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[15:36] <bobertdos> So my impression from looking at the Launchpad reports is that this bug has existed in Gstreamer for a while. In Precise, I am still experiencing the constant skipping of songs and failure to playback of songs when any gstreamer-based player switches between songs. Has anyone found a decent way around this?
[15:37] <noname120> I'll go back to windows and kick ubuntu then :/
[15:37] <mneptok> noob1204: desktop or laptop?
[15:37] <noob1204> mneptok but then... how will i dual boot win and linux... i barely use windows, but i need it sometimes for my dad to use the pc... and i dont know how to dual boot manually...
[15:37] <Sparky712> dontgive up too quickly
[15:37] <noob1204> mneptok desktop
[15:38] <noname120> Sparky712 : Quickly ? haha, I tried for hours
[15:38] <jrib> noname120: you shouldn't need ndiswrapper, just go to the Hardware Drivers tool
[15:38] <Sparky712> ive been trying for days.
[15:38] <noname120> jrib : the driver tool installs a driver that isn't working
[15:38] <mneptok> noob1204: you will need to resize the windows partition to create free, unused disk space for Ubuntu to create partitions. or, better, get a second hard disk for Linux, and dual boot that way.
[15:38] <jrib> noname120: I suppose you should provide details about the driver, your card, your ubuntu version, etc.
[15:38] <noname120> ok
[15:38] <noob1204> mneptok 1nd disk is not an option...
[15:39] <noname120> xubuntu 12; broadcom 4311
[15:39] <noob1204> (2nd)
[15:39] <noob1204> is it too hard to dual boot, installing first ubuntu?
[15:39] <noname120> jrib : about my driver, I guess it's currently Broadcom STA driver
[15:39] <jrib> noob1204: no, but it's easier to install windows first
[15:39] <mneptok> noob1204: understood. so boot to Windows, and ask the Windows partitioning tools to consolidate data, resize the partition, and create unpartitioned space that suits your Linux needs.
[15:40] <Sparky712> it's much easier if you install ubuntu last, noob.. it plays nicer than the other OS's
[15:40] <noname120> Does anyone have an idea ?
[15:40] <noname120> Or does anyone want to control my computer to fix it up ?
[15:41] <Sparky712> so, you are trying to use a windows driver to make ubuntu work?
[15:41] <noob1204> meh... i really want to solve this.... ¬¬ it seems is the only way to learn...
[15:41] <jrib> noname120: please just ask your real question (you can repeat the actual question after some time if you want), but "does anyone have any idea" is not productive
[15:41] <noname120> ok
[15:41] <noname120> How to get my broadcom 4311 working ?
[15:41] <mneptok> noob1204: the problem is that the disk is 100% used. there's no place to install Ubuntu. you need free, unpartitined space on that disk.
[15:42] <noob1204> mneptok disk is not 100% used...
[15:42] <noname120> jrib : do you've an =$
[15:42] <noname120> any ai
[15:42] <noob1204> mneptok i have 100mb + 120gb partitions, still 200Gb free
[15:42] <noname120> any idea bout my problem ?
[15:42] <mneptok> noob1204: yes, it is. there is no free, unpartitioned space that Ubuntu can see.
[15:42] <Sparky712> is that free space spread across the partitions?
[15:42] <alex_____> I am going to install INN2 from source the news home directory is in /var/spool/news if when I run ./configure I add --prefix=/home/news what would happen?
[15:43] <mneptok> noob1204: if the installer does not see it, boot to Windows and see if it is visible there.
[15:43] <noname120> How to get my broadcom 4311 working ?
[15:43] <noob1204> i'd say no, because start and end cylinders seems consecutive
[15:43] <noname120> How to get my broadcom 4311 working ?
[15:43] <jrib> noname120: I would follow the wiki directions sent to you by OerHeks
[15:43] <noname120> jrib not working
[15:43] <jrib> noname120: wait a reasonable amount of time before repeating please...
[15:43] <mneptok> noname120: the immediate repition will not happen again.
[15:44] <mneptok> noob1204: you seem sure that there is unpartitioned space (not unused, unpartitioned). what does the "gparted" app in Ubuntu tell you? what does Windows say?
[15:44] <noob1204> interesting.... gparted does not see any partitions.... but /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 are present...
[15:44] <Sparky712> saying that, i need to repeat my problem... it freezes on the purple screen.. ( have managed to install now) after installing, it rebooted itself, then when I try and use it, it freezes on the purple screen.
[15:45] <noname120> Why is there no support for broadcom 43xx cards ?
[15:45] <noname120> Why don't ubuntu devs add support ?
[15:45] <OerHeks> noname120, remove all b43 packages first, then " sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer " and reboot
[15:46] <noob1204> mneptok gparted says its 100% free space... but sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda shows the partition
[15:46] <noob1204> (s)
[15:46] <noname120> OerHeks : thanks for help but not working, sadl
[15:46] <noname120> *sadly
[15:46] <OerHeks> noname120, works fine here
[15:46] <OerHeks> noname120, then see if there is a hardware switch bugging you
[15:46] <Kruptein> so the sound for youtube, streams like twitch etc is really choppy while the video is fine,   normal audio for music files works fine,   problem on both opera,chrome and firefox   someone an idea?
[15:46] <noname120> I've the broadcom 4311
[15:46] <noname120> OerHeks : working on both win and backtrack
[15:47] <noname120> Hardware switch is fine
[15:47] <zax> I am going to install INN2 from source the news home directory is in /var/spool/news if when I run ./configure I add --prefix=/home/news what would happen?
[15:48] <bobertdos> Kruptein:  What version of flash are you running?
[15:48] <mneptok> noob1204: hrm. if CLI tools can see the partitions you expect ... have you tried the -alternate installation CD?
[15:48] <TheLordOfTime> does dnsmasq automatically exist on Ubuntu Desktop systems?
[15:48] <TheLordOfTime> or is there some dns cacher?
[15:48] <TheLordOfTime> (that comes by default)
 saying that, i need to repeat my problem... it freezes on the purple screen.. ( have managed to install now) after installing, it rebooted itself, then when I try and use it, it freezes on the purple screen. how can I fix this?
[15:48] <noob1204> mneptok  it seems ill need to try it
[15:48] <Kruptein> bobertdos opera is using shockwave flash 11.2 rc202
[15:49] <Kruptein> bobertdos I have youtube with html5 though
[15:49] <dontknow> i found an alien ship and installed ubuntu on its computer, it isolated ubuntu and patched its vulnerabilities. it is really fast now. using 10^-16 of system resources
[15:49] <mneptok> noname120: "no support for Broadcom 43xx cards" is dead wrong, and it continues your ranty-ness. and that is unwelcome.
[15:49] <bobertdos> Kruptein: But not all Youtube videos can play with HTML5 due to ads. So is it just HTML5 videos you're having trouble with or HTML5 *and* flash?
[15:50] <Kruptein> bobertdos: ok, well till now every yt vid I tried  and also twitch.tv streams
[15:51] <mneptok> dontknow: please stay on-topic
[15:52] <sapiens> hello... I'm trying to compile OpenEaagles... and I have a strange error occuring, probably a path to set or something like this... here's the output of the console: http://pastebin.com/A1JE8GWk
[15:52] <sapiens> Anyone could help?
[15:52] <bobertdos> Kruptein: So it's a recent development. Have you made sure to try both HTML5 content and flash content?
[15:52] <Sparky712> my problem... it freezes on the purple screen.. ( have managed to install now) after installing, it rebooted itself, then when I try and use it, it freezes on the purple screen.
[15:52] <oCean> Sparky712: no need to repeat that quickly
[15:53] <Kruptein> bobertdos: yh it only is a problem since this morning and I didn't change anything afaik   uhm well if yt indeed does not use html5 all the time I probably didn't try html
[15:53] <dontknow> mneptok, just saying, artificial intelligence on ship solves everything
[15:53] <Sparky712> ahh yes... i will make sure that i have mIRC fullscreened next time, sorry ocean.
[15:53] <mneptok> dontknow: just saying, son't say it.
[15:53] <Kruptein> bobertdos: I'll just try to restart my pc maybe that solves it brb
[15:53] <mneptok> *don't
[15:54] <bobertdos> Sparky712: I had a problem like that a couple generations ago. I don't know if this would work for you, but on mine, whenever I would get stuck on the splash screen, I would Alt-F1 to bypass the splash screen. It would go to the verbose (text) loading mode, and then it would load.
[15:55] <Sparky712> alt - F1... I dont know, it seems, ( i cant actually tell, it's a still image) like my system actually freezes. but it is worth a try
[15:55] <Ashael> hello
[15:55] <Sparky712> I did install using the ACPI workaround option, but would that make a difference?
[15:55] <bobertdos> Sparky712: I wouldn't imagine so.
[15:56] <Stereocaulon_> I have accidentally quickformatted for NTFS one of my RAID1 ICH10R array disks (under non-RAID mode) the other disk is still untouched. How can I tell the RAID1-array which drive contains the right data?
[15:56] <dontknow> I couldn't achieve booting with verbose mode
[15:56] <Ashael> question: i changed my cursor theme, but it only changed in some contexts and returns to default in others. is there a way to change it globally?
[15:57] <Sparky712> bobertdos: you sure? I have seen that using the ACPI workaround ends up needing to be done multiple times, because it is not permanent.
[15:57] <dontknow> I couldn't achieve booting with verbose mode. do you know how?
[15:57] <Kruptein> bobertdos: ok lol restart fixed it -_-
[15:57] <Kruptein> bobertdos: thanks for your time anyway :)
[15:58] <bobertdos> Sparky712: Well that could very well be true. I probably shouldn't say anything as I've never had to use it.
[15:58] <bobertdos> Kruptein:  You're welcome
[15:58] <Sparky712> ahh thank you for your help anyways, alt f1... I shall see if it works. but first, just in case, I will look up the ACPI workaround...
[15:59] <noob1204> ok, i found it...
[15:59] <psiklops> dontknow, press Shift during Boot after Grub
[15:59] <noob1204> it seems my bf placed some kind of weird 3mb partition at the beggining of the disk, and gparted cant see any partition as it understands partition table is corrupted...
[16:00] <dontknow> psiklops, any automated solution?
[16:00] <noob1204> and windows did not noticed it on install :S
[16:00] <psiklops> man grub
[16:00] <Ashael> question: i changed my cursor theme, but it only changed in some contexts and returns to default in others. is there a way to change it globally?
[16:00] <bhrunoh> #symfony
[16:00] <psiklops> dontknow, man grub
[16:00] <dontknow> Ashael, it is like that on my computer either
[16:01] <noob1204> anyway, ill partition the disk from linux and it should work.... i just need to install windows again... bad for me...
[16:01] <dontknow> Ashael, cursor theme changes on flash surfaces, right?
[16:01] <Ashael> i tried changing it in the gconf_editor but it didn't work
[16:01] <Ashael> dontknow: and in some windows
[16:02] <Ashael> e.g. KVirc
[16:02] <dontknow> Ashael, pointing cursor on links also
[16:02] <Ashael> not in FF
[16:02] <dontknow> Ashael, in xchat for example
[16:02] <Ashael> on tabs, though, in programs such as Pidgin
[16:03] <bcuraboy> need some to configure roadnav on ubuntu 12.04 to work with android
[16:03] <Ashael> i use KVirc
[16:03] <bcuraboy> need some help to configure roadnav on ubuntu 12.04 to work with android
[16:03] <dontknow> Ashael, or chrome
[16:03] <Sparky712> dontknow, your problem sounds like the theme isnt complete
[16:04] <dontknow> Sparky712, i am  just using black cursor theme
[16:04] <Ashael> Sparky712: in configuration or in cursor art files?
[16:04] <k_> hi
[16:05] <Sparky712> fair enough. and ashael, if your problem is similar, and it changes to defaults when in certain situations, possibly. and if it doesnt have an image for a certain situation.. i dont know, does it default to another theme for it?
[16:06] <noob1204> crossing fingers..... brb
[16:06] <Ashael> Sparky712: it seems to have all images, and it defaults to the original system default
[16:06] <drecute> Hello. I will like to know; how do I enable vlan support in network-manager?
[16:07] <l_r> why  don't i see the guest session  enabled in the menu?
[16:07] <psiklops> dontknow, google for:  grub boot options
[16:07] <l_r> gnome-session-fallback is installed
[16:07] <psiklops> dontknow, google for:  grub boot configuration
[16:07] <l_r> psiklops, who are you talking too?
[16:08] <oCean> psiklops: please don't refer to google searches here
[16:08] <l_r> any idea?
[16:08] <dontknow> psiklops, i might
[16:08] <l_r> on google i just see entries about disabling guest-session. but i want to enable it
[16:09] <psiklops> oCean, ok
[16:09] <Bronze> hi, does anyone know if there is a tool or script that automates importing all of CPAN into ubunbtu? (I'm a perl user, but not much of a perl prgrammer. I Need CPAN intact)
[16:09] <Sparky712> l_r, psiklops is talking to 'dontknow',just to clarify who it was aimed at.
[16:09] <psiklops> Sparky712, thanx
[16:10] <dontknow> anyone here using ubuntu with guest session for more security?
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> l_r  in the login menu, click on your user, then arrow down
[16:10] <l_r> monkey1, let me see
[16:14] <Sidewinder1> dontknow, How would using a Guest Session increase security?
[16:15] <dontknow> Sidewinder1, dont know, maybe it is about permissions?
[16:16] <cheryl_> Hi, I'm back.....tried Lubuntu, prefer Ubuntu!!
[16:16] <Lacoix> needing help with Additional Drivers in 12.04 failing no matter which driver I choose for Nvidia
[16:16] <dontknow> cheryl_, try cinnamon
[16:17] <cheryl_> I have installed restricted extras but keep getting an error that flash is not installed!
[16:17] <dontknow> cheryl_, better then toy unity
[16:17] <cheryl_> don't know I'm happy with Ubuntu....
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> cheryl_  install flashplugin-installer
[16:18] <cheryl_> MonkeyDust, Can I sudo apt-get install it? :)
[16:18] <dontknow> unity is like a toy, cinnamon pro
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> cheryl_  yes
[16:18] <mneptok> dontknow: this is #ubuntu. please stop with suggestions for non-standard UIs with no official packages in the distro.
[16:19] <cheryl_> MonkeyDust, Says latest is installed
[16:19] <Sidewinder1> dontknow, I always felt that just using ones username on the system, provides more than adequate security; especially compared to other OSs. Id you widh to delve deeper int oubuntu and haven't seen this, please have a look. 'Tis a little old but still pertanant and interesting: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[16:19] <cheryl_> I'm trying to IM on a dating site 'n that's where it says I don't have flash 10 installed
[16:19] <cheryl_> MonkeyDust, I'm trying to IM on a dating site 'n that's where it says I don't have flash 10 installed
[16:19] <dontknow> mneptok, cinnamon is working very stable now
[16:20] <dontknow> Sidewinder1, have a look at it
[16:20] <mneptok> dontknow: i wasn't asking.
[16:20] <dontknow> mneptok, i was answering
[16:20] <Sidewinder1> Wow! My typing sucks alot more than normal, today. And that's sayin somethin'. Sorry.. :(
[16:21] <Stereocaulon_> I have accidentally quickformatted for NTFS one of my RAID1 ICH10R array disks (under non-RAID mode) the other disk is still untouched. How can I tell the RAID1-array which drive contains the right data and restore it to it's glorious past?
[16:21] <Stereocaulon_> should I go ahead and delete all data on that disk that I quickformatted outside RAID mode, so that that the RAID-controller recognizes it as a new disk
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> cheryl_  maybe a different browser works
[16:22] <cheryl_> MonkeyDust, ok, will install Chromium
[16:23] <cheryl_> MonkeyDust, I meant Chrome
[16:23] <l_r> it's incredible
[16:23] <l_r> i cannot see this damn guet user
[16:23] <l_r> guest
[16:23] <l_r> how cani enable it?
[16:23] <bazhang> l_r, for security?
[16:23] <mz|`> Stereocaulon_: use a file recovery program if you want to retrieve data
[16:24] <l_r> (not to mention the crap gdm which blocks for ever if i press an empty string as user)
[16:24] <l_r> bazhang, yes
[16:24] <Gracenotes> I have one of these. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001G7HDKQ/  How can I get Ubuntu to recognize the 1/8" end as a microphone?
[16:24] <l_r> everywhere i see it is enabled by default
[16:24] <OerHeks> l_r, askubuntu has the answer > http://askubuntu.com/questions/62564/how-do-i-disable-the-guest-session
[16:24] <bazhang> l_r, how will using guest user provide more security
[16:25] <subichan> hi. to download the kernel sources for my ubuntu what package should i look for?
[16:25] <mz|`> Gracenotes: link the right cable with the right output (the mic one)
[16:25] <subichan> i'm on the latest lts
[16:25] <l_r> i want to *****ENABLE***** IT
[16:25] <l_r> not disable
[16:25] <l_r> again....
[16:25] <mz|`> then go into sound properties and adjust to your needs
[16:25] <OerHeks> l_r, sorry, same way to enable it, i guess
[16:26] <DrManhattan> wow whoever mentioned that cinnamon thing - VERY nice
[16:26] <l_r> i already did that stuff with the gdm config
[16:26] <l_r> it just does not work
[16:26] <mz|`> l_r: are you sure you are running gdm and not lightdm ?
[16:27] <DrManhattan> I havent bothered with linux desktop since all this unity/gnome3 stuff. It would rock on a tablet but it's not so fun on desktop
[16:27] <l_r> mz|`, let me see
[16:27] <FriendlySoviet> hEY
[16:27] <FriendlySoviet> Is anyone here?
[16:27] <Gracenotes> mz|`: well, I have it connected with the dual end in L/R of a (piano) keyboard, and 1/8" in my computer. Is it folly to try to get stuff from the keyboard to my sound card?
[16:27] <Paulo39> hi there, i have a weird problem: i have both ubuntu and archlinux installed on my computer. the grub is installed in Ubuntu. the archlinux menu entry in grub is pointing to an absent uuid, so when i choose archlinux in grub, i get a messagem saying the uuid is pointing to nowhere, then i just have to type any key and i boot into arch anyway
[16:27] <mz|`> Gracenotes: see sound properties
[16:27] <Gracenotes> I am not sure the circumstances which would allow it to work.
[16:27] <mz|`> driver ?
[16:27] <l_r> mz|`, pstree | grep gdm      |-gdm-binary-+-gdm-simple-slav-+-Xorg
[16:27] <Paulo39> i dont know why, grub files are getting the wrong uuid for that parttion, how can i fix this?
[16:28] <l_r> i think it's gdm
[16:28] <Gracenotes> mz|`: yeah, all of the devices result in nothing happening in the "input" tab.
[16:28] <mz|`> l_r: if you have trouble using gdm, use lightdm and follow : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-or-enable-guest-session-in-ubuntu-12-04.html
[16:29] <Gracenotes> They are Analog Stereo Duplex, Analog Stereo Input, HDMI Output + Analog Stereo Input, ... and some other combos
[16:29] <l_r> mz|`, how can i switch to slightgdm instead of gdm
[16:29] <Symbi0nt> how can I change the group of an file via Nautilus? The group I want to have is not in the pulldown field of the settings disalog of the file itself.
[16:29] <cheryl_> MonkeyDust, it's working now...musta just needed restarting or somming!
[16:29] <mz|`> analog stereo input
[16:29] <mz|`> and be sure that the right cable is in the right output
[16:29] <c2tarun> anyone able to successfully setup and ad-hoc wifi network b/w windows and ubuntu?
[16:29] <mz|`> l_r: apt-get install lightdm
[16:30] <l_r> mz|`, it's already installed
[16:30] <nicobrevin> does anyone here use awesome wm?  And if so, have you managed to use it with the fast user switching thing?
[16:30] <mz|`> dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[16:30] <mz|`> nicobrevin: yes, and no
[16:30] <sacarlson> Symbi0nt: in nautilus you can change the mask to user group other with read write execute , you can't add others to the group
[16:31] <mz|`> nicobrevin: read documentation, it is explain
[16:31] <axgb> Can someplne please help me with ubuntu Low-graphics mode please?
[16:31] <nicobrevin> mz| the docs on nasquadah?
[16:31] <mz|`> yes
[16:31] <Symbi0nt> sacarlson: I can't do a sudo chown -R username:www-data file.png in nautilus?
[16:31] <nicobrevin> thanks!
[16:32] <mz|`> if not, just add an alias to have the same behavior with multiple commands
[16:32] <Symbi0nt> Hmm the -R is useless there, but that is what I want
[16:32] <axgb> Hello
[16:32] <sacarlson> Symbi0nt: there is a gui called user groups that can change those attributes
[16:32] <HelloWorld321> Hi axgb.  I can't help you with that, I'm having similar problems.
[16:32] <mz|`> axgb: wait for an answer, dont spam
[16:32] <HelloWorld321> but I'm interested in what you've got.  Maybe it'll help me.
[16:32] <mz|`> axgb: explain in details
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> !yay| CharlieSu
[16:33] <sacarlson> Symbi0nt: yes you can also change owner with nautilus
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> CharlieSu  wrong nick sorry
[16:33] <axgb> what happened is that a program ran out of memory and now ubuntu goes into low-graphics mode
[16:33] <HelloWorld321> We have a policy in this channel: "don't ask to ask,just ask".  But people here don't usually get into hand-holding: you need a specific question.  Once you've got that, just ask.  But thats the hard part, isn't it?  If you've got the specific question, google could handle it for yo.
[16:33] <mz|`> axgb: not related :)
[16:33] <sacarlson> Symbi0nt: and what group the files belongs to
[16:34] <HelloWorld321> couldn't low graphics mode be related to low memory if you've got an onboard video card with shared RAM like most laptops?
[16:34] <Gracenotes> mz|`: hm, okay, gray in left, orange in right. It seems like, for "Analog Stereo Input", my computer is always using the internal mic. Also, I do not have a microphone port as such, but rather a duplex.
[16:34] <Symbi0nt> I have a context menu where a pulldown appears
[16:34] <Symbi0nt> but only 8 groups are shown
[16:34] <axgb> how is the program (Audacity) and ubuntu going into low-graphics mode not related - they happened one-after-the-ther
[16:34] <mz|`> axgb: to see if this come from the program, just reboot, if you continue to be in low graphics, you have a driver issue
[16:34] <Gracenotes> mz|`: unfortunately, then, no real change
[16:34] <Symbi0nt> and the one I need is not one of them
[16:34] <Symbi0nt> thats why I ask
[16:34] <axgb> i have rebooted several times
[16:34] <Keanulaszlo> Could anyone help with my blank screen problem?
[16:35] <axgb> but the drivers worked perfectly before
[16:35] <mz|`> Gracenotes: remove the internal audio driver ? or blacklist its module ?
[16:35] <mz|`> axgb: and now they are not.
[16:35] <mz|`> remove/reinstall your drivers.
[16:35] <axgb> how do i do that
[16:35] <mz|`> search on google.
[16:35] <axgb> i do not have internet connection on that computor
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> !google| mz|`
[16:36] <Gracenotes> mz|`: well, I hope there are other audio modules... lemme see
[16:36] <mz|`> MonkeyDust: please do.
[16:36] <axgb> i have the ubuntu command line, can you please list what commands i need to enter in to reinstall the drivers
[16:36] <KRomeleoN> is there a duckduckgo lens for unity?
[16:36] <Keanulaszlo> Whenever I log into the the "Owner" user, my screen goes completely blank. However, when I use a guest session it's fine
[16:36] <mz|`> MonkeyDust: please reply to axgb.
[16:37] <bsdfreak> Just upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 and now Unity desktop doesn't start unless I run unity from the command line.  Tried unity --reset.  Also tried the 2D desktop.  Any one have any ideas on how to resolve this?
[16:37] <mz|`> KRomeleoN: create a new icon, add the command "firefox http://www.duckduckgo.com"
[16:37] <trism> KRomeleoN: http://iloveubuntu.net/unity-duckduckgo-lens-released-ppa-available
[16:37] <sapiens> I'm trying to install OpenEaagles on Ubuntu and I have compilation errors... would someone help me to understand?
[16:37] <axgb> thanks mzI'
[16:37] <Gracenotes> mz|`: hm. you know, I might try to just update my kernel, see if anything comes of that. But otherwise, everything about duplex audio tends to suck. Would not recommend it in general.
[16:37] <KRomeleoN> trism: thanks bro!
[16:38] <mz|`> trism: ow !
[16:38] <axgb> what commands do i use to reinsttall drivers without a internet connection
[16:38] <Gracenotes> but then I'll have to worry about installing gnome session fallback
[16:39] <Gracenotes> because I don't like my workflow being horribly disrupted
[16:39] <sacarlson> we need a better method to get our systems back to the way they worked,  like I do with git to get my software to the last point it was functional
[16:39] <mz|`> Gracenotes: depends also on the drivers :-/ my numeric mixer is not recognized
[16:39] <mz|`> and will never be.
[16:39] <zzecool> Is anyone having problem with skype version 4 not loading the icon on top panel ?
[16:39] <mz|`> Gracenotes: agreed
[16:39] <HelloWorld321> Hang on axgb: I need the same thing , I'll try to find it
[16:39] <HelloWorld321> do you know what video card you have?
[16:40] <axgb> I dont know what drivers i have -> It used to work perfectly, with no errors, now it does not
[16:40] <Gracenotes> for now, I might use a $15 mic with 15-year old speakers. that'll sound... eh.
[16:40] <axgb> i think my video card is nvideo
[16:40] <HelloWorld321> actually, axgb: I think maybe you should try the first thing the guy said.   Do a quick reboot and come back.  You might be fine after a reboot.
[16:40] <mz|`> Gracenotes: increaaaase da gain ! :)
[16:40] <axgb> i have rebooted several times - i only just found out about this service
[16:41] <HelloWorld321> ok
[16:41] <Keanulaszlo> KRomeleoN: Are you from Hungary?
[16:41] <sacarlson> we have all this extra harddrive space why not make snapshot diffs of points that were working
[16:41] <axgb> it happened about 2 days ago
[16:41] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, im hungry
[16:41] <Gracenotes> of couuursse, in this case, there will also be the sound of the pedal
[16:41] <Gracenotes> squeaking
[16:41] <Chuck_Norris> zzecool: in Unity?
[16:41] <HelloWorld321> hang on.  from memory, the first thing you need to do is lspci to get a list of your pci devices (including the video card)
[16:41] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: so am I
[16:41] <zzecool> Chuck_Norris: yes
[16:41] <Gracenotes> high quality, but probably needs to be greased
[16:41] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, whats in the fridge ?
[16:41] <Chuck_Norris> zzecool: try this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:skype-wrapper/ppa ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install skype-wrapper
[16:41] <zzecool> Chuck_Norris: i think ita multiarch problem   ( im running 64bit )
[16:42] <axgb> AMD radion HD 4890 does that mean anything to you
[16:42] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: Just some ubuntu. Whenever I try to eat it, it turns blank... think you could help me out?
[16:42] <oCean> zzecool: please note that Chuck_Norris is suggesting to install a PPA. Those are unsupported 3rd party repositories
[16:42] <zzecool> Chuck_Norris: this is an outdated version with tab support
[16:42] <HelloWorld321> axgb: Radeon is one of the top brands
[16:43] <HelloWorld321> axgb: first, do you have a laptop?
[16:43] <bsdfreak> I guess I'll try removing and re-adding ubuntu-desktop and performing a dist-upgrade...
[16:43] <axgb> its a desktop PC
[16:43] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, yea try sudo eating it, if still turns blank please create a bug in launchpad
[16:43] <Chuck_Norris> zzecool: idk really i use gnome shell normally but "skepy-wrapper" makes more adaptable skype to Unity
[16:44] <HelloWorld321> K.  Mine is Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller
[16:44] <zzecool> Chuck_Norris: the is a all new skype version releaset 2 days before
[16:44] <axgb> i have two PCs: on with windows XP which i am using to chat with you, another with ubuntu that i want to sort out
[16:44] <zzecool> released*
[16:44] <Chuck_Norris> sed 's/normally/usually/'
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> !pm| mz|`
[16:44] <HelloWorld321> ya, and you said you had command line on the linux box.  I have the same thing
[16:44] <axgb> and the desktop PC with ubumtu does not have internet access
[16:44] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: ... enough with the metaphors, I'm not sure what you just said... could you explain it to me as if I were a brand new Ubuntu user (which I am)?
[16:44] <Chuck_Norris> zzecool: i know i already have it installed
[16:45] <HelloWorld321> you mean full-on none?  try this on your ubuntu box: ping www.yahoo.com
[16:45] <mz|`> MonkeyDust: do you have one function other than make the bot talking ?
[16:45] <mz|`> like helping people ?
[16:45] <axgb> i have managed to get to a command line, and i thought that another user may be able to tell me what to type into it to sort it out
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> mz|`  let's move on now
[16:45] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, im just hungry men...but too lazy to go to the fridge...sorry are you having problems with ubuntu ?
[16:45] <mz|`> hahaaa
[16:45] <HelloWorld321> axgb: use ping from the command line to find if you truly have no internet
[16:45] <HelloWorld321> cuz you're gonna need internet to download driver
[16:46] <bsdfreak> can't he download to a usb?
[16:46] <bsdfreak> using his xp pc?
[16:46] <sacarlson> axgb: well the good thing is it's a desktop so maybe just move the disk to a system that has access and install fix it there?
[16:46] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: yeah, when I first dualbooted ubuntu, I played around with the system settings, and hit "Apply" when I was in the Appearance section. The screen went blank, and now I can't see anything. I've tried to reboot several times, but whenever I log into the "Owner" user, it's just blank
[16:46] <blackgatocatnegr> Hi, after updating Tor, the old bug of **Vidalia could not open  "/home/USER/.vidalia/torrc": Permission denied"** returned, this seems to be a debian specific issue. This time I can't solve it by stooping the tor daemon, even a clean install did not help. Even running Vidalia as root does not help. here is the  error message : http://privatepaste.com/3cb7735640
[16:47] <axgb> I have a Atheros WLAN card which does not work with ubuntu (its dual boot with windows 7) and to get internet i can sometimes ethernet it to a laptop
[16:47] <oCean> blackgatocatnegr: if it is debian specific, then why ask here?
[16:47] <blackgatocatnegr> Keanulaszlo, have you tried option two in grub, then try the xsafe option?
[16:47] <mz|`> oCean: because nobody answers him on #debian
[16:47] <Keanulaszlo> blackgatocatnegr: option what? in the what?
[16:48] <axgb> what can i do
[16:48] <oCean> mz|`: I know, I'm there too
[16:48] <axgb> how do i connect to internet on ubuntu over ethernet
[16:49] <sacarlson> axgb: atheros is one of the best supported wifi suprized it won't work
[16:49] <bsdfreak> axgb: you should be able to go to command line and type dhclient eth0 if you don't automatically connect
[16:49] <anymous> Hi all .I want to add a plugin for my vim .What should I do ?
[16:49] <mz|`> axgb: did you do an upgrade wichi crashed or did not finish ?
[16:49] <axgb> are you joking? through GUI it recognises the WIFI networks but does nto connect
[16:49] <mz|`> which*
[16:49] <HelloWorld321> the other problem with google-fu is how spammers are getting so good at keyword stuffing
[16:49] <axgb> Its never worked, i have installed ubuntu agai
[16:50] <blackgatocatnegr> Keanulaszlo, in grub, when you boot, uder the main option to boot you linux distro, there is a second one, try that one and pick the one that says something about minimal x window or something like that, usually safex, wait let me check
[16:50] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, check if gnome is running
[16:50] <Chuck_Norris> axgb: paste: lsmod
[16:50] <axgb> ive given up on the wifi card
[16:50] <sacarlson> axgb: wifi encypted?   try wicd if you didn't already
[16:50] <axgb> i have tried WICD and it does not work
[16:50] <axgb> and the network is encrypted
[16:50] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: how...? again, sorry, I'm ridiculously new to ubuntu and linux in general
[16:51] <jarubyh_> Gnome is the desktop environment for Ubuntu.
[16:51] <unodx>  Keanulaszlo, do you have terminal/shell access ? can you type commands ?
[16:51] <sacarlson> axgb: well if your the admin of the network you might want to temp decrypt the network till things work
[16:51] <oCean> !nickspam | quixotedon
[16:51] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: yes I can
[16:52] <axgb> I have got a ethernet cable between a laptop and the PC which normally allows internet on it
[16:52] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, ps -aef | grep -i "gnome"
[16:52] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: crtl+alt+F1, right?
[16:52] <sacarlson> axgb: if the wire works then stick with that,  conectivity is important to help get things to work
[16:53] <Ashael> יקט
[16:53] <Ashael> hey
[16:53] <axgb> how do i connect with wire
[16:53] <axgb> what commands do i do to connect to the wire
[16:53] <bsdfreak> dhclient eth0
[16:53] <HelloWorld321> I think he thought you already had that "axgb: I have got a ethernet cable between a laptop and the PC which normally allows internet on it"
[16:53] <sacarlson> axgb: you stated the wire works?  so plug it in?
[16:53] <axgb> it normally works, with a bit of fiddling
[16:54] <Ashael> how can i add files to usr/share/ folders?
[16:54] <axgb> with UI,
[16:54] <axgb> but now i cant get it to work
[16:54] <Slart> Ashael: you can either use a terminal and use cp,mv and those commands.. or run a root nautilus window using gksudo
[16:55] <Slart> Ashael: of course.. in the terminal you need to use "sudo mv" and "sudo cp" and so on
[16:55] <Ashael> thanks
[16:55] <axgb> can i sorta insert a LIVECD and tell it to repair the damaged files
[16:55] <jarubyh_> sudo cp foo bar /usr/share
[16:56] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, that will take you to the console
[16:56] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, try ctrl-alt-f7
[16:56] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: crtl-alt-F7 took me to a blank screen.
[16:56] <sacarlson> axgb: sure you can reinstall with a live cd , just move your /home/* to  a usb and recover later
[16:56] <HelloWorld321> ohey, axgb, you have command line.  Try "startx" to get the GUI running?
[16:57] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: Should I have logged into my Owner account?
[16:57] <T3X> I am trying to install bacula on ubuntu server, every package i am trying to install said this package depends on this package, this happen on every package i am trying to install how can i solve this. I tried apt-get install -f but still the same problem??
[16:57] <axgb>  Thank you for everyone here trying to help. I have now got ubuntu working perfectly again
[16:57] <sacarlson> axgb: if you spend more than 2 hours trying to fix many times faster to just reinstall if the install isn't what broke it to start
[16:57] <axgb> i dont know what i did, but it now works again
[16:58] <sacarlson> axgb:  ya sometime when you remember to plug the power plug into the wall does it for me
[16:59] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, try re-installing ubuntu
[16:59] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: how do?
[16:59] <axgb> The fault was not with the power supply. The fault was with the graphics drivers, sacarlson.
[17:00] <whola> I get this error!!! E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric-security_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[17:00] <HelloWorld321> well I'd like you to tell me how, but you already said you didn't know
[17:00] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, exactly like you installed it first time but this time dont play with the settings until you know what you are doing
[17:00] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: I dual-booted ubuntu on an old Windows laptop I got. I'm a Mac-user, thus I have no idea what I'm doing right now
[17:00] <sacarlson> axgb: I failed to read you having any graphic problems but this time of night I miss many things
[17:00] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: I installed it with the Windows installer, wubi.exe Should I just use that again?
[17:01] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, I don't suggest using any windows tool...they're crappy...do a single OS install and use virtualbox to install windows...or you don't have windows os installable ?
[17:01] <mz|`> T3X: sudo apt-get clean ?
[17:02] <mz|`> than sudo apt-get update
[17:02] <mz|`> then*
[17:02] <axgb> do you call 6:00 night
[17:02] <HelloWorld321> axgb: you have to tell me, because I'm still stuck here in low graphics mode!
[17:02] <HelloWorld321> time zones
[17:02] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: I don't have it installable or handy, but I'm fine with a fresh boot. I just wanted to get a handle of ubuntu before deciding to wipe the Os
[17:03] <drecute> Hello. I will like to know; how do I enable vlan support in network-manager?
[17:03] <axgb> Helloworld, i would try searching google (not very helpful thing to say, sorry) and entering in the command it says, restarting a few times, repair damaged packages in recovery mode, restart and do that kinda thing until it works. Doing that worked for me
[17:03] <sacarlson> drecute: I'm not sure network-manger will setup a vlan unless they made some changes
[17:04] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, you can actually create a bootable ubuntu usb, change order of bios to boot from usb and you can experience ubuntu without having to install it
[17:04] <sacarlson> drecute: a gui for vlan, now that's a project
[17:04] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: so should I just install it again from the installer? without deleting the current installation?
[17:04] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, or you can use a virtualbox on windows and install Ubuntu as one of your OS and use that to get the feel of it
[17:05] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, for dual boot to work you really need to tweak a lot of things...it's not smooth most of the time
[17:06] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, thats why its always better to use Virtualization softwares
[17:06] <drecute> sacarlson: hi, I can't understand why that was never thought about by the nm developers
[17:06] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: so what should I do right now?
[17:07] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, remove your ubuntu installation
[17:07] <sacarlson> drecute: because it's not what most users make use of,  it's a numbers thing to please as many as posible
[17:07] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, and get back to your stable windows system
[17:07] <nicolas_> k
[17:07] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: how do?
[17:07] <sacarlson> drecute: I have used vlan but with scripts
[17:07] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, so your windows installation is screwed too ?
[17:07] <drecute> sacarlson: yeah
[17:08] <drecute> sacarlson: i have do with nm by just using /etc/network/interfaces
[17:08] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: no, it's fine. I just don't know how to remove my ubuntu installation...
[17:08] <drecute> sacarlson: but so far nm has refused to be disabled and resolvconf remains in charge to auto generating resolv.conf
[17:09] <sacarlson> drecute: I shutdown network-manager in those cases as it conflicts with my complex vlan and other settings
[17:09] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, me neither because I don't know the wubi.exe you used to install
[17:09] <drecute> sacarlson: so I don't think resolvconf will look into /etc/network/interfaces for values to set
[17:09] <drecute> sacarlson: what about resolvconf? How did you handle that?
[17:10] <sacarlson> drecute: no seems even with /etc/network/interfaces settings that at this point network-manager still holds control unless you shut it down
[17:10] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: it's on the ubuntu website http://bit.ly/M2B8Pd
[17:10] <afshin__> rdfctvgybunjkolp.;'/
[17:10] <sacarlson> drecute: my resolve is static it doesn't change
[17:10] <Bunie> iloveyou
[17:10] <Bunie> oops
[17:10] <Bunie> ;p
[17:10] <sacarlson> drecute: parts are in bind9
[17:10] <drecute> sacarlson: fine. I got that
[17:10] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, follow the instructions then
[17:11] <drecute> sacarlson: but everytime I tend to reconfigure resolv.conf because nm is diabled
[17:11] <drecute> *disabled
[17:11] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: follow the instructions for what...? installing it?
[17:11] <sacarlson> drecute: I run a local bind9 that is pointed to as primary dns
[17:11] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, do a dinstall...that will fix all the problems
[17:12] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, google dinstall
[17:12] <Ashael> hooray, success replacing the cursors
[17:12] <drecute> sacarlson: how did you disable nm permanently?
[17:12] <sacarlson> drecute: you can uninstall network-manager if it keeps causeing you problems
[17:12] <sacarlson> drecute: I uninstalled it
[17:13] <drecute> sacarlson: and you used bind9 to resolve domains?
[17:13] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: what should I be looking at when I google'd dinstall?
[17:13] <sacarlson> drecute: yes bind9 resolves my local and wan address
[17:14] <sacarlson> drecute: if you have local web sites you would need bind9 to separate what is seen from outside wan and local
[17:14] <drecute> i understand that
[17:14] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, look for a clause that says "removing ubuntu from system"...when you see that blink 3 times, go to the kitchen and touch the ceiling 3 times then come back and scream at your laptop "DINSTALL"
[17:15] <drecute> drecute: i just need a dns client. that's all
[17:15] <sacarlson> drecute: but it's still pointed to the same from /etc/resolve.conf  other than hosts
[17:15] <bcuraboy> i need the libical package.where can i get it??
[17:15] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: ... really?
[17:15] <drecute> sacarlson: how did you make resolv.conf to stop auto generating?
[17:15] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, if it still doesnt work, then repeat the procedure until it works
[17:16] <bazhang> unodx, stop that
[17:16] <bazhang> !behelpful | unodx
[17:16] <sacarlson> drecute: by uninstalling network-manager,  you can also disable it in upstart but I didn't
[17:16] <bazhang> Keanulaszlo, ignore what he just said
[17:16] <unodx> bazhang, please follow our conversation...
[17:17] <ki4ro> bcuraboy: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/cvs/general/libical.html
[17:17] <bazhang> unodx, I have.
[17:17] <unodx> bazhang, he is playing as well
[17:17] <Keanulaszlo> bazhang: ok... so what should I do then? I already touched my kitchen ceiling twice
[17:17] <unodx> bazhang, you see lol
[17:17] <bazhang> unodx, thats enough.
[17:17] <sacarlson> drecute: I still test dynamic ip by running dhclient eth0; but just for testing
[17:17] <Slart> !info libical0 | bcuraboy
[17:18] <sacarlson> drecute: as others on my net still use my dhcpd so I have to test it at times
[17:18] <bcuraboy> thank's,but that one i already downloaded and installed...
[17:18] <unodx> Keanulaszlo, thanks for the entertainment buddy...that sure made me forget about my hnger :-)
[17:18] <Slart> bcuraboy: it should be available using synaptic, the software sources thing or just regular terminal using sudo apt-get
[17:18] <drecute> sacarlson: ok I see what you mean
[17:18] <Keanulaszlo> unodx: youre.... welcome...?
[17:18] <Slart> bcuraboy: oh.. I must have misunderstood you then.. my ad
[17:18] <Slart> bad
[17:19] <bcuraboy> Slart, can i have a private with you?
[17:19] <Slart> bcuraboy: sure
[17:20] <Toph2> I am using xfce and started compiz just as a trial. I have lost the top panel to all my applications. Any suggestions how to return to the default under xfce?
[17:20] <axgb> Can i have help? Ubuntu says there is no free space but i know there is
[17:21] <Anom01y> anyone seen this ?
[17:21] <Anom01y> http://askubuntu.com/questions/146160/any-danger-in-using-the-wine-workaround-in-12-04
[17:21] <Anom01y> I get "lock isn't locked" error when I run winecfg, or any windows programs
[17:21] <sacarlson> axgb: with a reinstall?  you should delete any partitions you plan to use to install or ubuntu will be clueless what you want to use
[17:22] <Guest20033> How's new ubuntu?
[17:22] <LittleBallOfHate> new?
[17:22] <sacarlson> Guest20033: I still like ubuntu 10.04 better but I'm old
[17:22] <RipStik> hello avdg!
[17:22] <Guest20033> sacarlson: Me too
[17:22] <Anom01y> me three
[17:23] <Anom01y> its ok though
[17:23] <axgb> I have got a 36 GB partition with ubuntu on it of which i am only using 6 GB. it wont let me copy a 5Gb folder onto desktop
[17:23] <Anom01y> few fixes, but a few new bugs
[17:23] <sacarlson> Guest20033: if it works don't fix it.  note all the problems here 40% are from upgrades
[17:23] <tim`> when does 12.10 alpha come out?
[17:23] <bazhang> tim`, check #ubuntu+1
[17:23] <acicula> tim`: try #ubuntu+1
[17:23] <tim`> nobody is active in there
[17:23] <sacarlson> Tim I'm sure it's available now
[17:23] <tim`> for a few months
[17:23] <Guest20033> Anom01y: Is it still slow?
[17:24] <Anom01y> no
[17:24] <Anom01y> never was
[17:24] <Anom01y> I use Xubuntu
[17:24] <Guest20033> Anom01y: After unity it was
[17:24] <Anom01y> gnome is slow, kde is slow,
[17:25] <Anom01y> xfce is better
[17:25] <acicula> Anom01y: they all have their uses
[17:25] <c_smith> Anom01y, if this is something specific to Xubuntu, I'll have to direct you to #xubuntu
[17:25] <bazhang> !ot | Anom01y
[17:25] <sacarlson> Anom01y: but gnome has all that eye candy I got to have spining cubes
[17:25] <Guest20033> Anom01y: Xubuntu is for?
[17:25] <c_smith> Guest20033, Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE.
[17:26] <HelloWorld321> Since the Precise Pangolin upgrade, my ubuntu needs me to startX manually, and then it goes into 640x480.  My Xorg.0.log is at http://pastebin.com/qCnML0GS and lspci says that my  motherboard integrated video card is 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02).  What do I need to do to get my video drivers working and my ubuntu booting properly?
[17:26] <c_smith> instead of Unity
[17:26] <ejo> Wow, should I be disturbed when I run the command "set" with no options, and notice that _ImageMagick adds about 18+ pages to the result?
[17:26] <Guest20033> c_smith: Xfce is?
[17:26] <Anom01y> I use Xubuntu + compiz fusion (old version of compiz compiled manually)
[17:26] <acicula> ejo: not really
[17:26] <Anom01y> works like a charm
[17:26] <c_smith> Guest20033, a lightweight DE that is still somewhat bloated.
[17:27] <Anom01y> get all the rotational cubes and effects
[17:27] <bazhang> Anom01y, stop with the chit chat
[17:27] <acicula> ejo: those are just environment vvariables
[17:27] <Guest20033> Anom01y: Compiz rocks!
[17:27] <tim`> how can one live without wavy windows
[17:27] <ejo> acicula: yeah, I was not too inclined to worry about it, except for the fact that what's bound to that one variable is many pages of shell script code
[17:27] <Guest20033> Anyone? What is xfce?
[17:27] <c_smith> Anom01y, please, take this either to #ubuntu-offtopic, #xubuntu, or #xubuntu-offtopic, this is NOT the place to discuss this.
[17:27] <c_smith> Guest20033, I just told you.
[17:27] <bazhang> Guest20033, its used in xubuntu xfce4
[17:28] <acicula> ejo: that is not uncommon, bash_completion scripts do the same afaik
[17:28] <sacarlson> Tim` close the curtains?
[17:28] <c_smith> Guest20033, it's a lightweight desktop.
[17:28] <ejo> acicula: oh wait nvm!  haha.  Turns out only a small part of it was ImageMagick and the rest is due to git.  Which makes plenty of sense
[17:28] <Guest20033> c_smith: Thanks bye
[17:28] <Anom01y> Im just trying to get my wine back working with Ubuntu 12.04
[17:28] <Anom01y> c_smith, bazhang
[17:28] <acicula> ejo: <3 git
[17:28] <ejo> Definitely makes sense that git would inject all kinds of scripty stuff into my shell environment.  OK I'm a happy camper
[17:28] <ejo> same
[17:28] <Anom01y> http://askubuntu.com/questions/146160/any-danger-in-using-the-wine-workaround-in-12-04
[17:29] <bazhang> Anom01y, no need for the excessive commentary. just ask your issue
[17:29] <Anom01y> should I reboot after issuing this command ?
[17:29] <c_smith> Anom01y, but apparently this turned into a war as to which DE is better.
[17:29] <HelloWorld321> How do I re-install a "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)" video driver?
[17:30] <bazhang> HelloWorld321, thats in the kernel. there's nothing in jockey-gtk for that card
 Anom01y, no need for the excessive commentary. just ask your issue
[17:30] <Anom01y> I have twice now
[17:30] <bazhang> HelloWorld321, the performance on that card will never be very good
[17:30] <HelloWorld321> bazhang: I don't know what that means.  Does that mean that there's nothing I can do but a full re-install?
[17:31] <setkeh> XFCE is Better than Unity No argument
[17:31] <c_smith> HelloWorld321, as far as I know, all Intel cards (save for one that was outsourced) are in the Kernel since Intel works with Open-source.
[17:31] <bazhang> HelloWorld321, no need to reinstall
[17:31] <HelloWorld321> bazhang: that's true, fer sure
[17:31] <sacarlson> HelloWorld321: so I guess you could try some other kernels that are supported in 12.04
[17:31] <c_smith> setkeh, cool it.
[17:31] <Anom01y> http://pastebin.ca/2162061
[17:32] <djoda> high
[17:32] <LittleBallOfHate> Anom01y: from reading about ptrace it seems that 0 is fine. Just means that parent process can see what it's children are doing.
[17:33] <setkeh> c_smith: eh what they gonna do kick me XD
[17:34] <oCean> setkeh: just keep in mind this is a support channel, not for your personal opinion or general discussion
[17:34] <benwalburn> is anyone here familiar with chntpw?
[17:34] <ou--> tar -cvzf $HOME/html/backups/$NOWDATE.tar.gz $HOME/html/* --exclude=./backups --exclude=./backups/database --exclude=./folder2 --exclude=./folder3
[17:34] <ou--> any idea why exclude is being ignored?
[17:34] <c_smith> setkeh, they very well could.
[17:34] <setkeh> oCean: LOL
[17:34] <trism> LittleBallOfHate: not exactly, see /etc/sysctl.d/10-ptrace.conf (with 1, parents can ptrace children or if you have SYS_CAP_PTRACE, with 0, anybody can ptrace anybody else)
[17:34] <setkeh> c_smith: im trembeling XD
[17:35] <HelloWorld321> K, so my issue is that since the Pangolin upgrade (and I had the same thing at Ocelot), when I did the upgrade, my desktop stopped booting.  When I moved to Ocelot, I did a clean re-install, and swore to an LTS-only policy.  Pangolin is an LTS, so here I am again, and the same thing is happening.  I sorta figure that if I do a fresh install, then I'll get my video back.  As it is, it won't boot (gets stuck on checking battery [
[17:35] <HelloWorld321> So I've been thinking all I need to do is intrall the video drivers.
[17:35] <setkeh> XD
[17:35] <HelloWorld321> Or I could do a full re-install of Pangolin.  Or I could go buy a proper video card.
[17:35] <bazhang> setkeh, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[17:36] <tking0036> ls
[17:36] <bsdfreak> so, anyone have advice for my earlier question?
[17:36] <dlentz> HelloWorld321, can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log from failed boot?
[17:36] <NastyNaz> what's the += command for VB? I want to do 'integer += 2'
[17:36] <bsdfreak> been about an hour. :)
[17:36] <dougl> is there a gui for apcupsd?
[17:36] <LittleBallOfHate> trism: missed that, good catch
 Anom01y: from reading about ptrace it seems that 0 is fine. Just means that parent process can see what it's children are doing.
[17:37] <Anom01y> should I reboot though ?
[17:37] <dlentz> NastyNaz, probably the wrong channel for that
[17:37] <SpaceBass> hey folks, I'm having a problem after a failed release upgrade - apt and dpgk reporting an error trying to process base-files:http://pastebin.com/1cY3N2c1
[17:37] <dlentz> if VB is like C++, then integer += 2 means integer = integer +2
[17:38] <NastyNaz> dlentz: I know C++, I dont know VB. I was wondering if it was the same.
[17:38] <HelloWorld321> http://pastebin.com/qCnML0GS
[17:39] <dlentz> HelloWorld321, you have an intel chip and you installed the nvidia driver
[17:40] <bipul> Guys i am using ubuntu 3.3.0-23generic  kernel version and i want to add wifi network inside my ubuntu or through mobile please tell me what to do ?
[17:40] <dougl> how do I install a ????.deb file - err... or can I?
[17:40] <HelloWorld321> dlentz: originally I thought I had an nVidia chip, so when the graphics went bad, the first thing I did was re-install the nVidia driver.  How do I get rid of it?
[17:40] <bsdfreak> hurr durr
[17:41] <dlentz> depends on how you installed it, if you did it from the repo, then sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[17:41] <wunz> where is the autostart preference in ubuntu 12.04 w/gnome? in unity its in the right corner drop down but in gnome, doesn't seem to be there
[17:41] <HelloWorld321> I did it from the repo.  I found a web page that gave me a PPA for it.
[17:41] <oscailt> OPENBOX FTW!
[17:42] <oscailt> Unity sucks
[17:42] <HelloWorld321> tx dlentz: I'm going to purge that now ...
[17:42] <FloodBot1> oscailt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:42] <bazhang> !ot | oscailt
[17:42] <bipul> Guys i am using ubuntu 3.3.0-23generic  kernel version and i want to add wifi network inside my ubuntu or through mobile please tell me what to do ?
[17:42] <wunz> yea, i'm using Gnome, unity sucks
[17:42] <bazhang> bipul, where di d you get that kernel
[17:42] <wunz> unity would be nice if it had the proper applications menu, but overall the gui is nice
[17:42] <bazhang> wunz get on topic please
[17:43] <HelloWorld321> how do I get a list out of sudo?  I want to make sure that video is the only nVidia driver I have.
[17:43] <oscailt> I was joking. I heard there some argument about Xfce and Unity or something. Just adding my input.
[17:43] <wunz> my bad bazhang
[17:43] <HelloWorld321> (I think I might also have nVidia drivers for other parts of the bios)
[17:43] <wunz> where is the autostart preference in ubuntu 12.04 w/gnome? in unity its in the right corner drop down but in gnome, doesn't seem to be there
[17:43] <bazhang> HelloWorld321, a list of packages intalled?   dpkg -l
[17:43] <bipul> bazhang: it's old kernel actully my friend having this version of ubuntu and he wanted to use internet
[17:44] <LittleBallOfHate> bipul, click the wireless network icon at the top right of your desktop
[17:44] <raptor67782> I created the channel ##health-forum if you have any quetsions too about emergency, or health concerns. Pain to your back ... pain anywhere, advices ...?
[17:44] <dlentz> HelloWorld321, i'm not sure what you mean, you can have other nvidia drivers installed without issue (it's the proprietary nvidia video driver that interferes with other video drivers)
[17:44] <fantazmythe> hey all
[17:45] <bazhang> bipul, thats not an ubuntu kernel then? its a custom job?
[17:45] <LittleBallOfHate> HelloWorld321: lsmod?
[17:45] <LittleBallOfHate> HelloWorld321: make sure you don't have neuveau and nvidia loaded
[17:45] <fantazmythe> how stable does ubuntu generally run on VMware player?
[17:45] <LittleBallOfHate> HelloWorld321: er, neuveau will keep nvidia from loading
[17:45] <LittleBallOfHate> fantazmythe: fine if the host has enough power
[17:46] <fantazmythe> 3.3Ghz 6 core and 16gb ram ?
[17:46] <fantazmythe> for a single VM
[17:46] <LittleBallOfHate> fantazmythe: are you trolling with that question?
[17:46] <LittleBallOfHate> fantazmythe: that'll fly
[17:46] <fantazmythe> lol
[17:46] <fantazmythe> i dont mean that kind of stable
[17:47] <fantazmythe> i meant does it play nice with VMware?
[17:47] <LittleBallOfHate> fantazmythe: yup, got hundreds of linux vms at work
[17:47] <fantazmythe> ahh
[17:47] <fantazmythe> awesome
[17:47] <LittleBallOfHate> fantazmythe: they work just fine, install the tools though
[17:47] <fantazmythe> just wanted to make sure before i went ahead and made one
[17:48] <Belserusk> Hi. How can I launch 'Language Support' from terminal?
[17:48] <Chuck_Norris> Belserusk: gnome-language-selector
[17:48] <RBV> fantazmythe: I have like...20 Ubuntu VM's running on one six-core with 24GB it's fine
[17:48] <fantazmythe> wow
[17:48] <fantazmythe> aweosme
[17:48] <fantazmythe> awesome*
[17:49] <zalzane> should i install vanilla ubuntu or http://moebuntu.web.fc2.com/home_eng.html
[17:49] <fantazmythe> im just looking into VM's and knew that ubuntu was free
[17:49] <fantazmythe> need something to test with
[17:49] <fantazmythe> eventually i also want to get into the insides and mess about
[17:49] <fantazmythe> without worry about messing my PC install up =P
[17:49] <fantazmythe> hence the VM
[17:49] <Belserusk> Chuck_Norris, Thank you sir. I needed to run as sudo because the GUI was acting up.
[17:50] <LittleBallOfHate> fantazmythe: most all linux os free though. Ubuntu is easy, gentoo and LFS are build your own. RedHat Enterprise isn't free.
[17:50] <Chuck_Norris> Belserusk: np, gksu gnome-language-selector
[17:50] <fantazmythe> ya
[17:50] <The_BROS> How to run 2 accounts of Skype 4?
[17:50] <fantazmythe> i might get into gentto eventually
[17:50] <LittleBallOfHate> fantazmythe: lots of tweaking and crap with gentoo
[17:50] <fantazmythe> and maybe linux server when i get adventurous =P
[17:50] <Belserusk> Chuck_Norris, what about sudo ?
[17:50] <LittleBallOfHate> fantazmythe: and you have to compile EVERYTHING
[17:50] <oCean> fantazmythe, LittleBallOfHate please understand this channel is for ubuntu specific issues/questions only
[17:51] <fantazmythe> ahh
[17:51] <fantazmythe> apologies
[17:51] <oCean> fantazmythe: you are welcome to /join #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussion though
[17:51] <LittleBallOfHate> oCean: it was about ubuntu vs others. chill.
[17:51] <zalzane> oh
[17:51] <Chuck_Norris> Belserusk: for GUI applications is recomended use gksu
[17:51] <HelloWorld321> bak..  So I got the tip to use sudo apt-get purge nvidia*, and I got worried that nvidia* might be too many, so I got the tip to use dpkg -l ( | grep nvidia*) to find that I have:
[17:51] <HelloWorld321> rc  nvidia-common                             1:0.2.44                                Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers
[17:51] <HelloWorld321> ii  nvidia-current                            295.40-0ubuntu1                         NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library
[17:51] <HelloWorld321> ii  nvidia-settings                           295.33-0ubuntu1                         Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
[17:51] <HelloWorld321> rc  nvidia-settings-updates                   295.33-0ubuntu1                         Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
[17:51] <FloodBot1> HelloWorld321: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:51] <horatio_cromwell> what package do i need to compile programs and general c developing
[17:51] <horatio_cromwell> development
[17:51] <Chuck_Norris> Belserusk: or, gksudo
[17:52] <oCean> LittleBallOfHate: yes, we welcome such discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[17:52] <HelloWorld321> can I purge nvidia*  safely?
[17:52] <Chuck_Norris> HelloWorld321: yes, then you will be using, nouveau insted
[17:52] <oCean> HelloWorld321: please use http://paste.ubuntu.com next time
[17:52] <horatio_cromwell> what package do i need to install to do development and compile programs from source
[17:52] <LittleBallOfHate> HelloWorld321: purge all the ones in the second column
[17:53] <LittleBallOfHate> horatio_cromwell: build-essentials
[17:53] <HelloWorld321> The rule is four lines, I'm like that guy with exactly 10 items at the express lane.  It's legit!
[17:53] <HelloWorld321> k, purging nvidia* ...
[17:53] <LittleBallOfHate> HelloWorld321: and you might want to install nvidia-current-updates
[17:53] <Belserusk> Chuck_Norris, That is the beauty of GNU/Linux. So many ways of doing things. Cheers. ^_^
[17:53] <adamsilver> How can I set a cron to run every Monday at 8pm?
[17:54] <HelloWorld321> sudo apt-get purge nvidia-common nvidia-current nvidia-settings nvidia-settings-updates
[17:54] <LittleBallOfHate> HelloWorld321: apt-get --purge remove
[17:54] <Chuck_Norris> Belserusk: yes agreed, cheers :D
[17:55] <SpaceBass> is there a way to
[17:55] <oCean> adamsilver: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/477390/
[17:55] <SpaceBass> struggling with this error: dpkg: error processing base-files (--configure):
[17:55] <SpaceBass>  failed to read on buffer copy for md5hash: Input/output error
[17:55] <LittleBallOfHate> SpaceBass: bad download?
[17:55] <adamsilver> oCean: thank you
[17:55] <SpaceBass> LittleBallOfHate, possibly.
[17:56] <LittleBallOfHate> SpaceBass: clear it from apt's cache
[17:56] <LittleBallOfHate> SpaceBass: /var/cache/apt/archives or something like that
[17:56] <SpaceBass> LittleBallOfHate, already wiped everything in that path
[17:57] <HelloWorld321> okay, thanks guys.  dlentz,  bazhang, LittleBallOfHate, c_smith, sacarlson.  I've removed those incorrect nVidia drivers.
[17:57] <c_smith> HelloWorld321, no prob
[17:57] <LittleBallOfHate> HelloWorld321: you install the newest?
[17:58] <HelloWorld321> Am I ready for a reboot?  I do I need to do something about the Intel drivers?
[17:58] <LittleBallOfHate> HelloWorld321: you can't disable the onboard in the biod and not worry about them fighting?
[17:58] <LittleBallOfHate> bios
[17:58] <HelloWorld321> One of the things I've done to confuse everything is to install nVidia drivers when I actually had 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[17:58] <LittleBallOfHate> HelloWorld321: nevermind, thought you had an nvidia card too
[17:59] <trco> I am running ubuntu 12.04lts but for work reasons I also need to have fedora. I have installed fedora but the grub2 boot loader for ubuntu isn't picking up the new os. I am not entirely sure how to help the grub config find it. Any help would be appreciated.
[17:59] <HelloWorld321> So the Intel drivers are built in to the kernal, so I don't need to do anything about them, and I'm ready to reboot now?
[17:59] <bipul> nuthing happens
[17:59] <Guest91485> Is there a way to firewall certain programs so they can never connect the net?
[17:59] <bipul> just need a help if any one can tell mw how to connect my ubuntu with internet
[18:00] <LittleBallOfHate> Guest91485: in order to talk to the network they open ports, find what ports they use and then block them using iptables.
[18:00] <brandon> help
[18:00] <corp769> setkeh, whats up man
[18:00] <bazhang> bipul, thats a custom kernel?
[18:00] <brandon> i just installed 11.10 on my bros pc and it has shutters
[18:00] <LittleBallOfHate> trco: you run update-grub from inside ubuntu?
[18:01] <trco> bipul, ubuntu is very good at finding an Internet connection. Are you plugged in, or is it wireless?
[18:01] <trco> LittleBallOfHate, Yes I did. No luck there :/
[18:01] <bipul> i get that when i used this command in terminal username -ar bazhang
[18:01] <LittleBallOfHate> brandon: more detail please
[18:01] <SunSoul> Hi all, I am trying to install Ubuntu 12 on a 64 bit System with EFI boot. I installed fine, but on reboot, I get "Operating System Not Found" Help please?
[18:01] <brandon> like lines on the screen and i
[18:01] <bipul> trco:  it's wireless
[18:02] <bazhang> bipul, where did you get that kernel
[18:02] <trco> bipul, laptop? Is your wireless nizc turned on?
[18:02] <bipul> how to connet with mobile
[18:02] <Shoriminimoe> I'm having problems trying to Upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04. For some reason the upgrade doesn't appear when I run updates. Any ideas?
[18:02] <LittleBallOfHate> yeah i have a hard time believing there's a realease using a 3.3 kernel
[18:02] <bipul> i dont know how to check it's turn on not
[18:02] <bazhang> bipul, where did you get that kernel. please respond
[18:03] <corp769> holy shit balls, it's madness in here
[18:03] <brandon> help!
[18:03] <bazhang> corp769, no cursing here
[18:03] <bipul> bazhang: i get that from my labrary
[18:03] <bazhang> bipul, so it's custom
[18:03] <bipul> library*
[18:03] <corp769> ....
[18:03] <corp769> fuck this
[18:03] <brandon> is anyone gonna help?
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> SunSoul, here is a wiki that is about all I can do. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#UEFI%20Shell
[18:04] <bazhang> brandon, patience please
[18:04] <bipul> bazhang:  so how to get internet connectivity with wireless networlk or mobile please tell me
[18:04] <LittleBallOfHate> brandon: dude, this is all free. nobody pays us. plus we answer questions we know.
[18:05] <bazhang> bipul, is that a custom kernel? yes?
[18:05] <oscailt> DERP DERP DERP :P
[18:05] <SunSoul> Thanks, wilee-nilee . I will look at this, and see what I can do with it.
[18:05] <trco> brandon, what kind of hardware are you talking about?
[18:05] <oscailt> I have a problem
[18:05] <oscailt> Ubuntu is just so bloated.
[18:05] <oscailt> What can I do to fix this?
[18:05] <LittleBallOfHate> brandon: and we need to know what Ubuntu release, type of computer, video card, CPU, things like that
[18:05] <bipul> yes
[18:05] <oscailt> Anyone>
[18:05] <bazhang> oscailt, wrong channel
[18:06] <bazhang> bipul, so its custom, its not supported
[18:06] <oscailt> bazhang: What channel do I need to be in?
[18:06] <LittleBallOfHate> oscailt: install server and then pick and chose the other parts you pull in.
[18:06] <oscailt> Can't i ask in this one?
[18:06] <bazhang> !minimal | oscailt
[18:06] <brandon> nvideo graphics driver dv 2
[18:06] <brandon> dv 2000
[18:06] <oscailt> LittleBallOfHate: That's a bit of a walk around.
[18:06] <LittleBallOfHate> oscailt: or use the minimal cd
[18:07] <LittleBallOfHate> oscailt: either way it's easiest to reinstall than  trim it down.
[18:07] <oscailt> So just use Arch Linux? Okay shall do.
[18:07] <bazhang> oscailt, if you wish actual support here, if its just a complaint / rant then NOT here
[18:07] <LittleBallOfHate> oscailt: use what fits you
[18:07] <fasta> Does the new version of Skype have ads on Linux?
[18:07] <LittleBallOfHate> fasta: not yet
[18:07] <HelloWorld321> I did a reboot, and I'm still not right.  Here's my latest Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/eJpXqJ16
[18:07] <fasta> LittleBallOfHate: do you mean by that that they can turn it on remotely?
[18:07] <Belserusk> Later guys. Bye.
[18:07] <RangerBob> heard about that.   can you close the ad window?
[18:07] <OerHeks> fasta yes ofcourse
[18:08] <LittleBallOfHate> fasta: not sure about that, or if it'll take an update, either way right now it doesn't
[18:08] <fasta> OerHeks: continue.
[18:08] <OerHeks> fasta see for yourself?
[18:08] <Anom01y> OK
[18:09] <fasta> Is it possible to use both at the same time?
[18:09] <brandon> littlebalofhate 11.10 windows wubi 1.66
[18:09] <Anom01y> my Wine problem is fixed
[18:09] <fasta> OerHeks: that was the whole point of asking.
[18:09] <fasta> OerHeks: such that I didn't have to see for myself.
[18:09] <Anom01y> DO not install wine via the launchpad repositories
[18:09] <Anom01y> http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[18:09] <Anom01y> they don't work
[18:10] <Anom01y> so I removed that , installed ubuntu's wine version
[18:10] <Anom01y> fixed
[18:10] <bazhang> Anom01y, launchpad is a PPA
[18:10] <HelloWorld321> I definitely have different video effects during the startup phases, so I can tell that I've successfully removed the nVidia driver.  but I still get "Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly.  You will need to configure these yourself."  http://pastebin.com/eJpXqJ16
[18:10] <fasta> OerHeks: ok, so you have no proof?
[18:10] <fasta> OerHeks: then why should I listen to you again?
[18:10] <mattgandroid> how do i restart my sound system?
[18:10] <OerHeks> fasta, microsoft promises ads
[18:10] <bazhang> fasta, whats the issue
[18:10] <KRomeleoN> anyone using tixati?
[18:10] <bcuraboy> how can i edit this /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf: ???
[18:11] <n0sq> interesting - had to turn off power management on my rt2500 to get better performance (MUCH better) - too bad there isn't a setting in the wireless gui to turn off the power management for subsequent boot ups
[18:11] <acicula> sudo vim or gksu gedit <file>
[18:11] <fasta> bazhang: I want to know whether Skype 4 for Linux already had ads built in which can be turned on remotely by MS and whether or not I can have both installed at the same time.
[18:11] <brandon> the screen just looks like blindshelds?
[18:11] <bcuraboy> thank's
[18:11] <bazhang> fasta, how is that on topic here
[18:11] <fasta> bazhang: I am also open to suggestions to replace Skype with something else which works cross-platform.
[18:12] <jrdnn> fasta, mumble
[18:12] <fasta> bazhang: I want to use it on Ubuntu, like millions of other Ubuntu users.
[18:12] <bazhang> fasta, so try it and see. its not an ubuntu package
[18:12] <fasta> bazhang: why are you asking such stupid questions?
[18:12] <fasta> bazhang: and give such stupid answers?
[18:13] <bazhang> fasta, be civil
[18:13] <brandon> anyone?|
[18:13] <fasta> bazhang: at least try to act you are smart, even if you aren't.
[18:13] <fasta> bazhang: in case you didn't notice someone else already gave your response.
[18:14] <bcuraboy> what does means that i don't have a DBus connection available??
[18:14] <fasta> bazhang: I already labeled that response as basically a waste of my time and they you give the same response.
[18:14] <fasta> bazhang: what's wrong with you?
[18:14] <jrdnn> fasta, there's a lot to read here, maybe he was writing his answer after he saw your question and someone answered in the mean t ime
[18:14] <Chuck_Norris> fasta: Ekiga: http://ekiga.org/download-ekiga-binaries-or-source-code
[18:14] <HelloWorld321> dpkg -l | grep nvidia* comes up blank; but Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/eJpXqJ16 still shows it failing to load nVidia
[18:18] <Chuck_Norris> HelloWorld321: you wanna use your nvidia or intel grafic card?
[18:18] <HelloWorld321> I want to use Intel.
[18:18] <HelloWorld321> The nVidia was installed by mistake, and I just tried to sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[18:19] <escott> HelloWorld321, removing the nvidia drivers won't do anything unless you disable nvidia card in the bios
[18:19] <HelloWorld321> after the reboot, it looks like my nVidia drivers were successfully purged, but Xorg.0.
[18:19] <Chuck_Norris> ok, but let me tell you that the driver 295.40 which you were using is buggy Nivdia already accept it
[18:20] <Chuck_Norris> HelloWorld321: but you will play games, i meant, you can try another nvidia driver version or you just use you Intel grafic card
[18:20] <Chuck_Norris> as you like
[18:20] <bcuraboy> what does means that i don't have a DBus connection available??
[18:20] <n0sq> what's the "best" vnc package to use?
[18:20] <Sparky712> right, still having boot problems. I have tried turning ACPI off, but my computer still freezes on the purple screen directly after the grub selection goes.
[18:20] <HelloWorld321> Tx Chuck_Norris.  If dpkg -l | grep nvidia* is blank, would that imply that I've successfulyl removed those buggy (and inapplicable) nVidia drivers that I installed by mistake?
[18:21] <Chuck_Norris> ok, so what you wanna do, try another nvidia driver version, or use your Intel, let me tell you another thing: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyMDk
[18:21] <HelloWorld321> $ lspci | grep VGA says "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)", so I'm trying to setup the Intel card.
[18:22] <escott> !best | n0sq
[18:22] <Daulity> how can i check again what kind of linux/ubuntu i have installed? like 32bit or 64bit
[18:22] <n0sq> say please?
[18:22] <fantazmythe> hi, when i select how many cores to run, will it stop me using said cores on the host machine?
[18:22] <fantazmythe> like will it assign it cores
[18:22] <Daulity> n0sq, who me?
[18:23] <fantazmythe> or will it just allow that many to be used?
[18:23] <n0sq> no, the bot
[18:23] <n0sq> :)
[18:23] <escott> Daulity, uname -a
[18:23] <HelloWorld321> Chuck_Norris: I want to purge the nVidia and set up the Intel Corporation 82G965
[18:24] <Daulity> escott, thanks! :)
[18:24] <escott> fantazmythe, it will allow that many to be used, but you can under provision
[18:24] <fantazmythe> under provision?
[18:24] <fantazmythe> like force it to use less cores?
[18:24] <HelloWorld321> I've already gotten some help here on purging the nVidia, but my Xorg.0.log (http://pastebin.com/eJpXqJ16) still seems to reference the nVidia, but dkpg does not.
[18:24] <arash_> Hello :-)
[18:24] <mattgandroid> any suggestions on how to disable the laptop speakers and only use the external speaker jack?
[18:24] <escott> fantazmythe, have 5 guests using 2 cores each on an 8 core system
[18:25] <Daulity> x86_64 does that meen 32bit :)?
[18:25] <fantazmythe> ahh
[18:25] <mattgandroid> yes duality
[18:25] <fantazmythe> ty escott
[18:25] <italoxp> Duality, no, x86_64 is 64-bit
[18:25] <arash_> x86 = 32bit
[18:25] <italoxp> Duality, 32-bit is x86 or i386
[18:25] <arash_> x64=64bit ;)
[18:25] <mattgandroid> err yeah, read it wrong
[18:25] <Chuck_Norris> ok, so, enable the Intel video card goning into you Bios settup, then plug you VGA or DVI wire into the Intel port
[18:25] <arash_> simply a pentium 4 system is x86 or 32bit
[18:26] <HelloWorld321> Chuck_Norris: got it.  Done
[18:26] <Daulity> dualcore
[18:26] <HelloWorld321> The logs are post that state
[18:27] <Chuck_Norris> HelloWorld321: paste: lsmod, you should be using "i915" or some like that
[18:27] <Sparky712> my computer freezes directly after booting from grub. I have tried turning off ACPI. it hasnt helped. what can I do?
[18:27] <sanu> Hi everyone
[18:27] <arash_> I got 177 virtual processors !:O
[18:27] <arash_> OMG !
[18:28] <arash_> I Love linux :D
[18:28] <sanu> How are y doing today ,,Need small help
[18:28] <sanu> Mee tooo
[18:28] <escott> arash_, there are 64bit pentiums
[18:28] <HelloWorld321> Chuck_Norris: Thanks http://pastebin.com/4BKiXzRn
[18:28] <arash_> escott your right , but mainly they are 32bit :)
[18:28] <arash_> except some laptops ofcourse
[18:28] <HelloWorld321> yes, theres an i915 in there
[18:28] <arash_> and OEM built computers
[18:29] <bazhang> !ot | arash_
[18:29] <Chuck_Norris> HelloWorld321: its ok, and what its wrong with you Intel grafic card?
[18:30] <Alied> Anyone have exp with thin web server?
[18:30] <arash_> thanks for promotion ;)
[18:30] <Chuck_Norris> oh! i forget, xorg keep trying to load nvidia?
[18:30] <arash_> I'll be around sometimes :)
[18:30] <HelloWorld321> After the Pangolin upgrade, I get the same bootup problems that I got after the Ocelot upgrade:   "Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly.  You will need to configure these yourself."
[18:31] <sanu> does any one help me to solve this isseu?I need to conicetrol My bandwidth on evry machine on my company ,,Please adv
[18:31] <Cottus> Sparky712, ask also in ##linux
[18:31] <HelloWorld321> Chuck_Norris: As far as I can tell, that's the problem.  Xorg.0.log is trying to install the nVidia drivers
[18:31] <Cottus> they might know
[18:31] <mouth1> Hi everyone.
[18:31] <escott> Sparky712, you should try and follow the boot messages (hit the up arrow as soon as plymouth starts) and see if you can be more specific on the cause of the freeze
[18:31] <newtoubuntu> here's a beginner question- i installed ubuntu for the first time today... i have downloaded firefox 13 tar.bz2 ......... how do i install it?
[18:32] <mouth1> Is it bad that the updates had an error "could not update" and when I tried it again it worked?
[18:32] <arash_> firefox 13 is already installed on
[18:32] <arash_> Ubuntu 12.04 ;)
[18:32] <coder2> Hello. Please help me with udev and Genius tablet. I've menaged to get it work first time, but after reboot the tablet driver tries to attach to wrong  /dev/input/mouse1 instead. And it do not work anymore
[18:32] <sanu> does any one help me to solve this isseu?
[18:32] <mouth1> Will everything work right or is such a failure in the update process not good?
[18:32] <newtoubuntu> arash no it say firefox 11
[18:32] <arash_> u should try to
[18:32] <sanu>  want control bandwidth of my company
[18:32] <SirTravers> yeah no need to use the downloaded Firefox.... just run your system update
[18:32] <arash_> update your ubuntu then bro ;)
[18:32] <mz|`> Neapt-get update ; apt-get install firefox
[18:32] <mz|`> newtoubuntu: apt-get update ; apt-get install firefox
[18:32] <arash_> y ;)
[18:32] <arash_> try that
[18:32] <escott> sanu, run everything through a proxy on your gateway and control it at that point
[18:33] <arash_> or you can go to that button at top-right-corner
[18:33] <arash_> and click at Updates
[18:33] <mz|`> arash_: ISOs have no been updated using the last mozilla things
[18:33] <Chuck_Norris> but you can boot normally i meant you are able to get the desktop enviroment?
[18:33] <arash_> and update your ubuntu
[18:33] <newtoubuntu> arash i have ubuntu 12.04 ... how do i update it?
[18:33] <mz|`> newtoubuntu: apt-get update ; apt-get install firefox
[18:33] <escott> sanu, tldp.org/HOWTO/pdf/Bandwidth-Limiting-HOWTO.pdf
[18:33] <arash_> There's a button
[18:33] <mz|`> newtoubuntu: apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade if you want to upgrade all
[18:33] <arash_> on top-right
[18:33] <arash_> click on It
[18:33] <mz|`> erf
[18:33] <mz|`> button.
[18:33] <HelloWorld321> There's a story on that.  The computer *had* a kick@$$ nVidia video card, which fried.  At that time, I bought a new computer for video games, and then decided that if I could get the old one working again, I would install Ubuntu on it, and explore it.  I've found that Ubuntu is a perfectly decent OS, thought for video games aren't supported on it, so for those I use the new computer with the newer video card.  So I remembered 
[18:33] <fantazmythe> im currently setting up the ubuntu VM and its asking for network settings
[18:33] <arash_> and click on Software update
[18:33] <arash_> :)
[18:33] <FloodBot1> arash_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <sanu> okey any other easy method to suggest?I mean softwares
[18:34] <fantazmythe> should i use NAT or bridged ?
[18:34] <fantazmythe> and whats the difference
[18:34] <arash_> Im sry for flooding ;)
[18:34] <newtoubuntu> also, where do i get an antivirus and firewall?
[18:34] <HelloWorld321> I have a lunch date soon, I'ma need to get dressed
[18:34] <SirTravers> arash_, how many lines will the bot let one type in a row? I can get longwinded hehe
[18:34] <sanu> Thanks escot
[18:34] <mz|`> fantazmythe: nat is to create a network inside the VMs, a new network
[18:35] <DJones> !firewall | newtoubuntu
[18:35] <arash_> :D I don't know SirTravers
[18:35] <fantazmythe> all i want is internet acces
[18:35] <HelloWorld321> If I bought a new nVidia graphics card, would that get me where I'm going?
[18:35] <mz|`> bridge is to bridge your physical network interface with the virtual ones
[18:35] <DJones> !virus | newtoubuntu
[18:35] <SirTravers> lol ok
[18:35] <arash_> well @AntiVirus & Firewall
[18:35] <mz|`> fantazmythe: both work
[18:35] <arash_> you won't need one using ubuntu
[18:35] <fantazmythe> for now i dont need LAN
[18:35] <mz|`> farsight: use nat for simplicity
[18:35] <CDB> can someone please help me with IRC
[18:35] <arash_> because ubuntu normally has a low probability of getting viruses
 newtoubuntu: apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade if you want to upgrade all... could you elaborate a bit?
[18:35] <oCean> !who | arash_
[18:35] <arash_> and isn't easily hackable ;)
[18:35] <SirTravers> CDB what ya wanna know?
[18:35] <mz|`> newtoubuntu: follow arash_ tutorial ^
[18:35] <bazhang> arash_, stop with the enter key
[18:35] <Sparky712> thanks for the tip escott, i will try seeing it, and then if it doesnt work, after searching google, will ask here and in linux again
[18:36] <CDB> I want to join a certain IRC chat room, but I can't work out how
[18:36] <oCean> CDB type /join #channelname
[18:36] <fantazmythe> which is safest?
[18:36] <bazhang> arash_, prefix you r answers with the person you are helping, on a single line
[18:36] <SirTravers> usually the syntax is "/join #roomname"
[18:36] <mz|`> fantazmythe: use NAT
[18:36] <arash_> ok :-)
[18:36] <fantazmythe> ty mz|`
[18:37] <CDB> !SirTravers so i type "/join #openttd"?
[18:37] <oCean> CDB indeed
[18:37] <oCean> CDB: no quotes
[18:37] <SirTravers> yep with no quotes
[18:37] <CDB> SirTravers how do I do the thing where it sends it direct to someone?
 !firewall | newtoubuntu ..... do i need to type this in terminal
[18:37] <SirTravers> you would use the word Query instead of join
[18:37] <mz|`> CDB: http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html read that
[18:38] <SirTravers> then put the person's nick behind it
[18:38] <dlentz> HelloWorld321, you probably have an old /etc/X11/xorg.conf that tries to load nvidia driver
[18:38] <dlentz> delete/move it
[18:38] <CDB> OK thanks
[18:38] <SirTravers> you can also type "/notice nickhere message" to comment in the same window
[18:38] <arash_> how can I whisper using IRC ?
[18:38] <DJones> newtoubuntu: No, all you need to do is read the link that ubottu gave you in the channel
[18:38] <arash_>  */r name text ?
[18:39] <CDB> it said I got kicked as soon as I joined
[18:39] <SirTravers> arash on xchat it's "/notice nick message"
[18:39] <SirTravers> CDB sounds like you need the password then
[18:39] <oCean> CDB: if you have issues joining channels, please go to #freenode channel, and ask for support there
[18:39] <mouth1> Is it bad that the updates had an error "could not update" and when I tried it again it worked?
[18:40] <CDB> Ok, ill try the freenode. Thanks very much for your help
[18:40] <Chuck_Norris> yes, for sure is that dlentz
[18:41] <HSimpson> Quick networking question: I have two interfaces (eth0 and wlan0) and they are both configured for DHCP pn /etc/netowrk/interfaces. How come they BOTH assigna default gateway (verifiable on 'route -n') ? Shouldn´t it be just ONE default gw ???
[18:41] <HelloWorld321> Chuck_Norris, dlentz: thanks.  I'll look for that after lunch.  Can you hit me with a grep/find statement that might pick it right up?
[18:42] <chimney_> help: I need to change the parameters of automounting usb-sticks in /media
[18:42] <RipStik>   /join #RipStik
[18:42] <chimney_> anyone here, who had the same issue?
[18:42] <Chuck_Norris> HelloWorld321: locate xorg.conf
[18:42] <Silent> Hello
[18:42] <escott> chimney_, for all usb-sticks?
[18:43] <Silent> Guys, how do I make sure I have the proper keyboard layout?
[18:43] <Chuck_Norris> but chould be there where dlentz wrote /etc/X11/
[18:43] <Chuck_Norris> should* be...
[18:43] <SirTravers> Silent, click settings
[18:43] <SirTravers> then keyboard
[18:43] <SirTravers> then layout settings
[18:43] <Silent> I'm on Xfce4
[18:43] <Silent> Yeah I'm there already
[18:43] <HelloWorld321> got about a dozen of those.  I'll look inside 'em later.  Thanks dlentz, Chuck_Norris
[18:44] <Silent> SirTravers I just added a Hebrew font, and it behaves oddly. Ex, no dots or commas
[18:44] <RedViper> Hi, I have a slight Network problem, I set my computer to suspend and the it was bombed due to a power failure, so when I started it up again my ubuntu would not connect to the internet. It's as if the internet cable is unpluged (But it is not) I booted into windows 7 and it connected to the internet with no problems so that rules out hardware. How do I get my Ubuntu 10.04 to connect to the net as I need it to?
[18:44] <Chuck_Norris> np credits to dlentz i forget that configuration file =P
[18:44] <SirTravers> you should see what it's set at now and have the option to add new layouts
[18:44] <Silent> A Hebrew layout*
[18:45] <bavarian001> test
[18:45] <chimney_> escott: for *all* usb sticks, hdd, cameras, mp3 player
[18:45] <Silent> Yeah I've set it, but ut behaves oddly.
[18:45] <Silent> it*
[18:45] <SirTravers> since i don't know hebrew i'd be hard pressed to answer into that one any further
[18:45] <escott> chimney_, i wonder why you would need to do that, but you would have to check the udisks manual
[18:46] <Silent> How about keyboard model?
[18:46] <Silent> How do I know it's set correctly?
[18:47] <chimney_> escott: because there is an device and everyone shoul be allowed to plug its usb device in and mpd should read the files in the db to be able to play it
[18:47] <newtoubuntu> ok i have started an update and getting gufw
[18:47] <Silent> Nevermind I got this
[18:48] <SirTravers> good deal
[18:48] <Silent> :)
[18:48] <newtoubuntu> any pdf printers for ubuntu? i used nitro pdf reader (free) on win 7
[18:48] <escott> newtoubuntu, what?
[18:48] <bazhang> newtoubuntu, just print to file
[18:49] <newtoubuntu> hey escott, did the ubuntu install..
[18:49] <newtoubuntu> bazhang so it will be printed to pdf
[18:49] <RedViper> Hi, I have a slight Network problem, I set my computer to suspend and the it was bombed due to a power failure, so when I started it up again my ubuntu would not connect to the internet. It's as if the internet cable is unpluged (But it is not) I booted into windows 7 and it connected to the internet with no problems so that rules out hardware. How do I get my Ubuntu 10.04 to connect to the net as I need it to?
[18:50] <bazhang> newtoubuntu, print to pdf yes
[18:50] <newtoubuntu> bazhang let me try
[18:51] <tking0036> does anyone know what the mixer that comes with ubuntu is called...
[18:51] <tking0036> can i start it in openbox and have the audio controls
[18:51] <bazhang> tking0036, alsamixer you mean
[18:51] <chimney> tking0036: alsmixer
[18:51] <tking0036> the one that runs in the gnome tray
[18:52] <bazhang> tking0036, alsamixer is from terminal
[18:52] <tking0036> right... i need one that works with the volume buttons on openbox
[18:52] <chimney> ok, anyone here who worked with automounts?
[18:53] <bazhang> tking0036, apt-cache search mixer may help
[18:53] <bazhang> chimney, via fstab?
[18:53] <chimney> nope multiple uuids
[18:53] <bazhang> chimney, check via sudo blkid
[18:54] <bazhang> chimney, then add to fstab
[18:54] <chimney> bazhang: and how shoul I know the uuid of every stick everyone has?
[18:54] <tking0036> does anyone use openbox?
[18:54] <RedViper> Um, help anyone :-S ?
[18:54] <SuperNoeMan> I moved my swap partition. I'm able to boot, but how do I know if swap will be used successfully when the time comes
[18:55] <newtoubuntu> ok that worked.. what about a good pdf handling program? allowing some basic edits etc
[18:55] <bazhang> chimney, could you re-iterate the issue please?
[18:56] <Cottus> SuperNoeMan, cat /proc/swaps
[18:56] <bazhang> newtoubuntu, such as pdfedit?
[18:56] <SuperNoeMan> Cottus: thanks
[18:56] <Cottus> np
[18:56] <SuperNoeMan> so, it listed the swap space. do I know for certain that this will get written to when I need it?
[18:57] <chimney> bazhang: I need to change the automounting conf so that every devices is also acsessible by the user mpd, *every* stick on earth could be it
[18:57] <chimney> also every hdd
[18:57] <RedViper> Help Someone?
[18:57] <Cottus> SuperNoeMan, i don't knwo
[18:57] <escott> chimney, http://askubuntu.com/questions/30762/is-setting-default-mount-options-for-udisks-really-not-possible
[18:57] <bazhang> RedViper, with what?
[18:57] <HSimpson> Quick networking question: I have two interfaces (eth0 and wlan0) and they are both configured for DHCP pn /etc/netowrk/interfaces. How come they BOTH assigna default gateway (verifiable on 'route -n') ? Shouldn´t it be just ONE default gw ???
[18:58] <Cottus> SuperNoeMan, but if now it is used, then it will be used from now on, also do you care about swappiness?
[18:58] <newtoubuntu> found pdfedit on sourceforge.. but it is tar.bz2... how would i install?
[18:58] <RedViper> 	
[18:58] <RedViper> bazhang: I have a slight Network problem, I set my computer to suspend and the it was bombed due to a power failure, so when I started it up again my ubuntu would not connect to the internet. It's as if the internet cable is unpluged (But it is not) I booted into windows 7 and it connected to the internet with no problems so that rules out hardware. How do I get my Ubuntu 10.04 to connect to the net as I need it to?
[18:58] <FloodBot1> RedViper: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:58] <SirTravers> SuperNoeMan, your system monitor should show the available swap size and its current usage stats
[18:58] <bazhang> newtoubuntu, its in the repos. always look there first
[18:58] <Cottus> SuperNoeMan, i mean there is a way to reduce the use of swap
[18:58] <bazhang> newtoubuntu, sudo apt-get install pdfedit
[18:59] <newtoubuntu> bazhng in the terminal?
[18:59] <bazhang> newtoubuntu, yes
[18:59] <SuperNoeMan> idk if you are even being serious about "swappiness"... anyway, thanks a lot, that swapon -s helped me out
[19:00] <bazhang> RedViper, ethernet? try sudo dhclient eth0  if you see eth0 in ifconfig
[19:01] <hanscom> what is the command to get your screen size in linux ?
[19:01] <Cottus> hanscom, xrandr
[19:01] <newtoubuntu> it  gives an error... i'll wait till after the update is finished
[19:01] <bazhang> hanscom, the monitor resolution?
[19:01] <hanscom>  xdpyinfo  | grep 'dimensions:' ?
[19:02] <RedViper> bazhang: I will try now.
[19:02] <Doonz> hey whats the command to see what speeds my ethernet adapter is running at
[19:02] <bazhang> newtoubuntu, yes, you can only have a single instance of apt running at a time
[19:02] <kim__> hi, skype 4.0 for linux has released, is there any ubuntu repo for it? the one from which i've installed the current one doesn't have it yet
[19:02] <kim__> (i prefer repos instead of the file from the website)
[19:02] <bazhang> kim__, outside of a PPA, doubtful
[19:03] <Cottus> Doonz, ethtool
[19:03] <bazhang> Doonz, ifconfig you mean? or what
[19:03] <SirTravers> Kim I pulled it from their site with no trouble. just save the deb and install it once its downloaded
[19:03] <hanscom> Cottus: Try this command xrandr | grep '*'
[19:03] <SirTravers> worked fine
[19:03] <bazhang> Doonz, are you trying to add that to conky?
[19:04] <Cottus> thnx
[19:04] <hanscom> Cottus: grep is a funny command
[19:04] <Cottus> heh
[19:05] <Doonz> bazhang no im trying to see what speed my vm thinks the network card is
[19:05] <chimney> escott: SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="*", ATTRS{idProduct}=="*", GROUP="audio", MODE="0666"
[19:05] <chimney> escott: does this makes any sense?
[19:05] <escott> chimney, as a udev rule. udev doesnt do the mounting so i doubt permissions there would do anything
[19:06] <escott> chimney, and it would be very weird if udisks used udev rules for config
[19:06] <RedViper> 	
[19:06] <RedViper> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1044501/    - What does this mean I don't understand?
[19:06] <FloodBot1> RedViper: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:07] <kevin1961> well have been full circle, mint 10, mint 12, mint13, Debian, XFCE and am now back  to the old faithful Ubuntu 10.11 :-)
[19:07] <bazhang> RedViper, does ifconfig show eth0
[19:07] <RedViper> bazhang: And my internet says Auto Ethernet not eth0
[19:08] <Myrtti> RedViper: turn OTR off for this channel, if you can, if you have it on, please.
[19:08] <HSimpson> Quick networking question: I have two interfaces (eth0 and wlan0) and they are both configured for DHCP pn /etc/netowrk/interfaces. How come they BOTH assigna default gateway (verifiable on 'route -n') ? Shouldn´t it be just ONE default gw ???
[19:09] <RedViper> bazhang: Sorry I don't know how to check that, not really my field. How would I do this?
[19:09] <RedViper> Myrtti: Sorry what do you mean by OTR?
[19:09] <bazhang> RedViper, open a terminal: type ifconfig
[19:10] <chimney> which UDisks wrapper is the one for ubuntu preinstalled?
[19:10] <RedViper> bazhang: As is?
[19:10] <RedViper> ifconfig
[19:10] <bazhang> RedViper, in terminal ------> ifconfig
[19:11] <RedViper> bazhang: Ok, will do.
[19:11] <chimney> how is the program called, that makes the usb-automounting in ubuntu?
[19:12] <coder2> Thanks anyway. Bye
[19:12] <SunSoul> Can someone take a look at the PasteBin file I have here. Trying to do what nother user recommened for EFI boot Ubuntu 12.04. Recommended this wiki. So I am following.
[19:12] <SunSoul> http://pastebin.com/3JM0VYUU
[19:13] <chimney> how is the program called, that makes the usb-automounting in  ubuntu?
[19:13] <escott> SunSoul, why not just install grub-efi
[19:13] <newtoubuntu> doesn't skype allow video calls on ubuntu?
[19:13] <SunSoul> escott, if I do that, will it automate the proccess for me?
[19:13] <RedViper> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1044509/  ?
[19:13] <OerHeks> newtoubuntu, what is your real question?
[19:14] <escott> SunSoul, not knowing what wiki you are following i dont know what process you are talking about. but grub-efi is the package you are supposed to install
[19:14] <escott> !info grub-efi
[19:14] <bazhang> RedViper, does it show eth0
[19:14] <newtoubuntu> does skype allow video calls?
[19:14] <SirTravers> newtoubuntu, yes it does
[19:14] <SunSoul> escott, thanks. I am following htis wiki here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#UEFI%20Shell
[19:14] <chimney> goodbye
[19:15] <RedViper> 	
[19:15] <RedViper> bazhang: Where, in the Terminal or the main menu? Sorry
[19:15] <FloodBot1> RedViper: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:15] <lec_> Hello! I am having some problems with my soundblaster titanium (ctxfi emu20k2) card under the 3.2.0 kernel images - the spdif capture seems to be missing (from arecord -l) and doesn't work, but it's fine under kernel 3.0.0-12
[19:15] <newtoubuntu> sirtravers, i don't see the option for the same... maybe after ubuntu update completes
[19:15] <bazhang> RedViper, from the ifconfig command: does it show eth0
[19:16] <HSimpson> Quick networking question: I have two interfaces (eth0 and wlan0) and they are both configured for DHCP pn /etc/netowrk/interfaces. How come they BOTH assigna default gateway (verifiable on 'route -n') ? Shouldn´t it be just ONE default gw ???
[19:17] <newmacair> have you guys been hearing from people with new macs?
[19:17] <SirTravers> yes give the updates time to work. once they are done go into the software center and look up "ubuntu restricted extras" that will install a lot of extras that can't be put in the original ISO for various reasons
[19:17] <newmacair> because the new boot camp is confusing and has no obvious mac option
[19:17] <newmacair> *ubuntu option
[19:17] <bazhang> newmacair, ubuntu support issue?
[19:17] <RedViper> bazhang: Everthing it showed I put in the paste bin you should see it. I dont really understand where it should show. Sorry to frustrate you on this situation, I dont know my way round that much - New user :D\
[19:17] <nannes> !pastebinit
[19:17] <SunSoul> escott so if I install grub-efi. How would I go about doing that? Since Ubuntu is installed already, would I just boot to a Live Image, and issue the command to install?
[19:18] <SirTravers> also if you want to use the webcam with flash stuff and it won't work directly you can dowload a program called webcamstudio that works great.
[19:18] <newmacair> yeah, it makes you choose from one of three options in boot camp, all of which are related to Windows 7
[19:18] <escott> SunSoul, never done an efi install myself. so i cant really say
[19:18] <newtoubuntu> so, no antivirus essential?
[19:19] <SirTravers> never had a virus problem...been using ubuntu since version 8.04
[19:19] <SunSoul> ok escott . I will try grub-efi and see how it goes.
[19:19] <RedViper> bazhang: If you mean the menu then no, it still says no network connection?
[19:20] <bazhang> RedViper, no.  from the terminal, you typed ifconfig.   there was some output there/did it show eth0
[19:20] <newtoubuntu> sirtravers still for protection sake?
[19:20] <SirTravers> no viruses written to attack linux
[19:21] <RedViper> bazhang: All it showed was what I put in the paste bin, everything that came up in the terminal I put in paste bin?????
[19:21] <newtoubuntu> sirtravers and the inbuilt firewall sufficient? does it prompt like zonealarm if any program tries to connect to thw web?
[19:21] <bazhang> newtoubuntu, install gufw if you wish a gui for ufw
[19:21] <bazhang> !ufw | newtoubuntu
[19:22] <SirTravers> aye...what they said hehe
[19:22] <SirTravers> thanks y'all
[19:22] <newtoubuntu> ok
[19:23] <RedViper> bazhang: It had eth0 the stuff to the right the under that wa lo and stuff to the right. If you mean that the yes it did show?
[19:24] <bazhang> RedViper, in terminal, type sudo dhclient eth0
[19:24] <RedViper> Ok
[19:24] <HSimpson> Quick networking question: I have two interfaces (eth0 and wlan0) and they are both configured for DHCP pn /etc/netowrk/interfaces. How come they BOTH assigna default gateway (verifiable on 'route -n') ? Shouldn´t it be just ONE default gw ???
[19:24] <escott> RedViper, you said this happened when the system was suspended. i wonder if the module needs to be reprobed or something
[19:25] <RedViper> escott: Yes It bomb when it was suspended.
[19:27] <escott> RedViper, you could check "lsmod" to see if the driver is loaded
[19:28] <newmacair> Mac Airs are capable of working in 64 bit, right?
[19:28] <RedViper> bazhang: Here take a look, this is what came up - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1044533/
[19:28] <hanscom> With Unity you do realize there is no desktop laucher right ?
[19:28] <hanscom> I tried to uninstall Unity and it crashed my system 3 times
[19:28] <RedViper> escott: Anything, as long as I can get it working again. Silly thing.
[19:29] <hanscom> So I i had to dump Ubuntu for Linux Mint
[19:29] <hanscom> 12.04 LTS to Linux Mint 13(Maya)
[19:29] <SirTravers> took them getting to 12.04 for me to like unity. it works great on a dual monitor setup.
[19:29] <dreadiscool> hi
[19:29] <dreadiscool> could someone please help me?
[19:30] <newtoubuntu> quit
[19:30] <escott> RedViper, nevermind your driver is clearly working. its some kind of networking issue
[19:30] <DJones> !ask | dreadiscool
[19:30] <mneptok> hanscom: may i PM?
[19:30] <dreadiscool> i just joined, i didnt want to be rude
[19:30] <hanscom> mneptok: Yeah sure
[19:30] <escott> RedViper, what does ping 192.168.1.1 say?
[19:30] <dreadiscool> Can someone help me convert xp to ubuntu? I downloaded the ISO i don't know how to mount it now :(
[19:31] <UbuPet> :))))
[19:31] <SirTravers> burn the iso to a disc
[19:31] <RedViper> bazhang: escott: I can access the internet but on the top menu it says that there is no connection. I am confused now???
[19:31] <SirTravers> leave the disc in and reboot the system
[19:31] <escott> dreadiscool, you can't "convert" but you can burn the iso to disk and then use that to install ubuntu alongside windows or just replace windows
[19:31] <dreadiscool> can i put it on a flash drive instead?
[19:31] <UbuPet> maby install ubuntu insite windows
[19:31] <dreadiscool> no i dont want xp anymore, i want to get rid of it
[19:32] <SirTravers> there is a flash drive option described on the ubuntu download page
[19:32] <dreadiscool> its on the dload page?
[19:32] <dreadiscool> i didnt see it D:
[19:32] <SirTravers> sure is :)
[19:32] <escott> RedViper, there might be something in one of your /etc files that making network manager think its not supposed to be handling the eth0
[19:32] <SirTravers> it shows step by step what to do for ya
[19:34] <RedViper> escott: Ok why and how to fix it?
[19:34] <escott> RedViper, see if "grep -i eth0 /etc" comes back with anything
[19:35] <RedViper> 	
[19:35] <RedViper> escott: Do I type as is - grep -i eth0 /etc
[19:35] <RedViper> ?
[19:35] <FloodBot1> RedViper: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:36] <escott> RedViper, it is eth0 right
[19:36] <RedViper> escott: Ya think so? Let me try
[19:39] <RedViper> escott: It does not seem to do anything. Is it eth0 with a zero or ethO with a capital OOOO?
[19:40] <escott> RedViper, with a zero
[19:40] <escott> RedViper, you could also just drop the 0 entirely
[19:41] <escott> RedViper, also what are the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces. it should just be the two lines related to lo
[19:41] <RedViper> Ok I will try
[19:42] <RedViper> escott: Wait so I should just use eth? I will check now
[19:43] <dougl> are there option other than krellm to monitor/config my apcupsd or apcaccess?/
[19:44] <LittleBallOfHate> dougl: conky?
[19:44] <dougl> LittleBallOfHate, googling now => thanks
[19:45] <escott> !pm | RedViper. what are the contents of /etc/network/interfaces
[19:46] <RedViper> escott: How do I check? Sorry lost
[19:47] <escott> RedViper, its just a file. you can cat it "cat /etc/network/interfaces" or open it with a text editor
[19:48] <help1204> cannot install anything.. can't install drivers for nvidia card, the update manager also isnt opening. Im on ubuntu 12.04 anyone can help?
[19:48] <escott> help1204, what does "sudo apt-get update" say
[19:48] <joel135> help1204: can you open a new terminal and type "sudo apt-get update"?
[19:49] <help1204> it started :o
[19:49] <help1204> is thr anyway i can get this unity bar on bottom?
[19:51] <help1204> brb
[19:51] <RedViper> escott: It's fine now I found out what the problem was, my stupidity. I right clicked on the internet connection an ticked the enable networking. So sorry to get you running around like this.
[19:51] <JohnTeddy> I have a laptop, and I'm also using an extra monitor. When I have chrome on my laptop screen playing a youtube video, if I full screen teh youtube video.. it opens on my extra monitor. How can I get it to open on my laptop?
[19:52] <RedViper> escott: Sorry to waste your time, feel like I don't belong near a computer now :D
[19:52] <escott> RedViper, happens to everyone from time to time
[19:53] <escott> RedViper, we will put your name on the list. any future mistakes and we will send the hit team out to get you ;)
[19:53] <RedViper> bazhang: I found out what was wrong, thank you for you Aid. Much appreciated ;-)
[19:54] <pc> hi
[19:54] <neros> Holaaaa a Todossss!!!!!
[19:54] <pc> hola
[19:54] <neros> /join #perl.it
[19:54] <RedViper> escott: Ha ha ha. Thanks dude, thats comforting ;-)
[19:55] <RedViper> thanks again
[19:59] <newtoubuntu> finished updating ubuntu.. still don't see a video call option in skype
[20:00] <SirTravers> the new version seems to start the call then gives the camera icon
[20:01] <SirTravers> under the options if you click vid devices there should be  a box to check to autostart a camera
[20:02] <matelot> (12.04): I want to add a folder to /opt, how to run gnome Commander as Admin
[20:02] <Slart> matelot: try gksudo gnome-commander    or whatever the command is to start gnome commander
[20:03] <shadykhan> has anyone every encounterd the problem where your mouse will just be stuck in a drag cursor and you cant click on anything?
[20:03] <sun> nick sunbird
[20:03] <joel135> Slart: do you know the difference between gksudo and gksu?
[20:03] <escott> shadykhan, yes
[20:04] <matelot> thx Slart, is the the right way to put app to /opt ? (the app is unzipped tar)
[20:04] <Slart> joel135: I think they use the same mechanism under the hood.. not sure if there is a difference or it's just historical reasons for there being two commands doing the same thing..
[20:04] <shadykhan> escott, how do you fix without rebooting?
[20:04] <newtoubuntu> sirtravers that worked wonderfully
[20:04] <Slart> matelot: that unzipped tar.. is it source code? or just a packed binary?
[20:05] <SirTravers> cool deal newtoubuntu
[20:05] <matelot> Slart: just packaged binary, python app actually
[20:05] <matelot> no need to make
[20:05] <Slart> matelot: python apps usually have a setup.py file wich can do the actual install for you
[20:06] <sunbird01> I was trying to install the harden-remoteaudit package and I was getting the error that the openvas server packages was not getting insatalled, I located each package and deleted them including the conf files and .deb files now I get his error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1044588/ . How do I rectify this ?
[20:06] <newtoubuntu> in gufw i'd like the firewall to prompt me every time an outgoing connection is made by a program and have an option to deny... how to proceed?
[20:06] <Slart> matelot: but if I was installing a python app manually I would create the folder first and then copy the files.. doesn't matter how you do these, nautilus, gnome-commander, terminal.. it all ends up being the same thing in the end
[20:07] <matelot> Slart: Not this one this is "sublime text" http://www.sublimetext.com/2
[20:07] <escott> joel135, Slart the manpage describes everything
[20:07] <n-iCe> how do I revert this command? usermod -d /etc/skel torro; chown -R torro /etc/skel
[20:07] <matelot> Slathx
[20:07] <matelot> Slart: thx
[20:09] <newtoubuntu> can't be done?
[20:10] <joel135> n-iCe: to begin with, usermod -d <the original home folder for torro> torro
[20:10] <chakal^-^> de Hola buenas tardes
[20:10] <SirTravers> newtoubuntu, not sure myself...i just let it do it's thing
[20:10] <SirTravers> it took a while to get past the paranoia of being a windows user, but i'm better now hehe
[20:11] <n-iCe> joel135: ok
[20:11] <newtoubuntu> ha ha
[20:11] <n-iCe> done, now joel135 ?
[20:11] <dt> Hello!
[20:11] <Slart> matelot: wow.. $59 for an editor.. worth it?
[20:12] <newtoubuntu> but i thought linux was meant to be configured to individual tastes... but then it'll take a while to learn the ropes
[20:12] <dt> I am a new Ubuntu user. I just installed Kubuntu 12.04. Everything is working fime for the moment ;)
[20:12] <matelot> Slart: just trying it out ;)
[20:13] <SirTravers> i'm sure it can be done yes.
[20:13] <SirTravers> just not my forte
[20:13] <n-iCe> joel135: still there?
[20:13] <joel135> n-iCe: the second command changed ownership of a folder AND its contents. to revert it, we need to know the previous owner of the folder AND the files within it
[20:13] <n-iCe> joel135: torro was the owner
[20:14] <marc_12314> I replaced a drive in my raid1 array, then did   "mdadm --add /dev/md1 /dev/sdc1"… but I still have over 10h before completion… is it safe to shutdown the server while the array is being reconstructed or do I have to wait that long?
[20:15] <joel135> n-iCe: torro was the owner of /etc/skel? then we're done
[20:16] <Kartagis> hi
[20:16] <chakal^-^> de Hola KarateKip3
[20:17] <Kartagis> anyone feeling like doing soundcard debugging? my microphone is not working. I can provide alsa-info.sh output
[20:18] <escott> marc_12314, you should be able to shutdown
[20:19] <gmachine_24> Hi. Want to copy a bunch of music files (all in folders by title & band name) to another computer over my home network. SSH installed on both machines. Having trouble with just being able open the network share and cut and paste.
[20:19] <SirTravers> Kartagis, non tech answer from experience....seems the mic defaults to mute on a reboot for me
[20:19] <SirTravers> also if ya have a webcam with a mic and a separate mic...gotta select the source you want to use
[20:20] <joel135> gmachine_24 are you familiar with the terminal? because then there is the command scp. otherwise, install filezilla
[20:20] <SirTravers> just what i've run into
[20:20] <Kartagis> SirTravers: checked, nothing is muted here
[20:20] <gmachine_24> joel135, yes I like the terminal
[20:20] <escott> gmachine_24, use rsync or scp
[20:21] <gmachine_24> ok, scp it is. thanks.
[20:21] <SirTravers> more than one input source in the sound settings window?
[20:22] <HelloWorld321> bak.  Tx dlentz, Chuck_Norris for your help earlier.  I have the onboard intel video card, and I've removed the nVidia drivers, and as you suspected, I found a reference to "nvidia" for "Device0" in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.  Remove it?  Replace it?
[20:22] <escott> HelloWorld321, remove the xorg.conf entirely
[20:22] <HelloWorld321> mv xorg.conf xorg.bad
[20:23] <HelloWorld321> tx. Escott.  moved.  reboot?
[20:23] <escott> HelloWorld321, or sudo service lightdm restart
[20:24] <marc_12314> escott: alright, thanks!
[20:26] <HelloWorld321> I went with the sudo shutdown -r now; because I was oeprating from an ssh window on another machine.  I've rebooted, and I'm still getting the message that "Yuor screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly.  You will need to configure these yourself."  What's the next step to configure them myself now that I've removed the xorg.conf file and rebooted?
[20:27] <escott> HelloWorld321, running Xorg --configure?
[20:28] <n-iCe> Hello guys, is there any application to make a .iso of my whole linux distro? in order to install it later? or in other computer? thanks
[20:29] <escott> n-iCe, there are various approaches like !clone, or !remaster, or straight backup imaging with dd, but it only makes sense if the hardware is identical
[20:29] <chakal^-^> for example AcetoneISO
[20:33] <rainbowwarrior2> hi all, i am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a compaq cq60 and my wireless card is no longer auto connecting to my wifi network , instead now i have to open a terminal and type in " sudo rfkill unblock all then " iwlist wlan0 scan " and log out and then log back in again and hold the wifi button next to the power button and then after a few mins it connects to my network, anyone got any idea how i can get it to auto connect again like i
[20:33] <rainbowwarrior2> t should as it only recently started doing this since i was on holiday a few days ago ?  "
[20:35] <BenW> hello. i can't seem to get ATI drivers of any kind to work with ubuntu. It's a Compaq Evo N1000c with ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 which should be supported but it seems as if it's running vesa perhaps?
[20:36] <BenW> Is there a way to display what driver is currently being used?
[20:36] <T0mas> Anyone know how to enable internal bluetooth? The device exists but doesn't show up on lsusb
[20:36] <SirTravers> Ben Yep
[20:36] <SirTravers> in a terminal type "fglrxinfo"
[20:37] <SirTravers> that will show the ati driver info
[20:37] <escott> rainbowwarrior2, you might add the rfkill command to /etc/rc.local
[20:37] <BenW> command not found..
[20:37] <ki4ro> rainbowwarrior2: Had a similar prob with my wife's compaq...have a look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1810193
[20:37] <rainbowwarrior2> ok ty escott
[20:37] <T0mas> Someone got it working with HCIBTUSB some years ago, but I understand it's now btusb .
[20:38] <rainbowwarrior2> ok ty ki4ro
[20:38] <BenW> Not sure if it matters but I'm running xubuntu. Same difference
[20:38] <SirTravers> ok so try this "lspci | grep VGA"
[20:39] <BenW> yep. shows the hardware info
[20:39] <HelloWorld321> k, so abuot my video drivers.  I removed the /etc/X11/Xorg.conf , and now I see why, that whole file is "deprecated", and the system now uses /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d instead.  I tried to configure, and failed because "Number of screens does not match number of detected devices".
[20:39] <SirTravers> now compare it to the output of this "grep 'Monitor name' /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[20:39] <HelloWorld321> If I have Precise Pangolin, should I be using sudo Xorg -configure, or sudo X -configure?
[20:40] <T0mas> Bluetooth has never worked on this computer (for four years) so I'm determined to make it work
[20:41] <escott> HelloWorld321, you need to disable that nvidia driver in the bios
[20:42] <BenW> SirTravers - ok? not sure what i'm comparing
[20:42] <BenW> Nothing matches?
[20:42] <SirTravers> the second one should show which vid driver is in use at the moment compared to what card you have
[20:42] <BenW> it doesn't
[20:43] <HelloWorld321> SirTravers, not sure if you're talking to me, but my lspci | grep VGA says "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)"
[20:44] <BenW> HelloWorld, he's talking to me
[20:44] <BenW> would it be between the ( )?
[20:44] <BenW> because it shows (**)
[20:45] <SirTravers> ok thinkin......i've got an ATI card. I download the updated drivers from aMD's site...
[20:46] <SirTravers> currently the drivers are up to version 12.4
[20:46] <BenW> aticonfig says there's no compatible hardware...
[20:46] <SirTravers> mine is the hd 3200 so not quite the same, but they have a click through menu to get the right driver
[20:47] <HelloWorld321> escott: the nvidia card was fried at Meek Maverick.  Whenever I do an upgrade (like the Precise Pangolin LTS) the video drivers end up fried.  Last time I did a full install, but now I'm getting good enough at linux that I think I need to struggle through this.  And probably take good notes, too, in case I don't settle it once and for all.
[20:47] <BenW> I can't get the window to even open for it. just fusses that there's no compatible hardware basically
[20:47] <SirTravers> Ben you runnin 64 bit?
[20:47] <BenW> no, 32
[20:47] <SirTravers> ok no problem there
[20:47] <SirTravers> you been to AMD's site for the driver yet?
[20:48] <BenW> no, i got what was in the software center
[20:48] <HelloWorld321> Is sudo sufficient to run Xorg -config ?  I see in man Xorg that it wants to be root.
[20:48] <BenW> i tried to go through ATIs site and it shoves windows drivers in my face when i pick linux
[20:48] <escott> HelloWorld321, i avoid nvidia so i dont really know. but with a laptop with switchable graphics you either disable the high end graphics or you use bumblebee/vgaswitcheroo
[20:48] <SirTravers> ok to start you'll want to uninstall what you used from the software center to get a fresh start.
[20:48] <BenW> ok
[20:49] <SirTravers> then goto AMD's driver download page and grab the right version for your card and download it
[20:50] <SirTravers> once you have it downloaded you'll right click the file...goto properties....permissions...and click on make executable.
[20:50] <BenW> ooo i found fglrxinfo, had to do sudo
[20:50] <BenW> ok... shows Mesa?
[20:50] <SirTravers> yeah if it shows mesa that's the opensource driver
[20:51] <SirTravers> when you click the downloaded file tell it to "run in terminal" then just follow the prompts for the standard install.
[20:51] <rainbowwarrior2> who ever it was who was helping me a minute ago , im afraid i tried what that thread said and i still have same problem
[20:52] <SirTravers> it'll tell you to reboot once then you can go into the catalyst control center as admin to set your options properly.
[20:55] <netvista2010> list
[20:56] <netvista2010> ?
[20:56] <andrikus_> hi i tried to remove the gloabl menu bar with Global menu bar with sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt, but got the error message:
[20:56] <andrikus_> E: Unable to locate package appmenu-gtk3
[20:56] <andrikus_> trying to install it gives the same error message
[20:56] <andrikus_> what am I doing wrong?
[20:57] <sam__25> Hello all
[20:57] <Dmetrix> Hello.
[20:57] <SirTravers> howdy sam
[20:57] <Dmetrix> How are you?
[20:57] <crucialhead> hey all, under details, it says my graphics driver is vesa, how do i change it to ati?
[20:57] <Dmetrix> Look this site on Wiki...
[20:58] <BenW> thanks SirT. Working on it now
[20:58] <Dmetrix> Do you know why you hurt my feelings?
[20:58] <SirTravers> cool deal ben
[20:58] <BenW> it's not the speediest system so it's going to take a while ;)
[20:58] <SirTravers> Crucial download the Catalyst drivers from AMD's site
[20:58] <SirTravers> its an easy install
[20:58] <sam__25> I need some help how to install Libre 3.6 it is a tar.gz file
[20:59] <sam__25> it is a tar.gz file
[21:00] <gmachine_24> sam_25, ever compile from source code?
[21:01] <J11>  I get udev-configure-printer: failed to connect to CUPS server; giving up  on precise
[21:01] <sam__25> never try many times it give me error mesage
[21:01] <SirTravers> hey Sam...there's a ppa available
[21:02] <gmachine_24> sam_25 did you check synaptic... to see if Libre 3.6 is there?
[21:02] <jagginess> sam__25, use the Archive MAnager from the Accessories menu
[21:02] <HelloWorld321> I can still get to the desktop with startx, but the system still boots up with an invitation to reconfigure graphics.   I have my Xorg.0.log pasted to http://pastebin.com/XCSJrXVA
[21:02] <sam__25> is it from webup8?
[21:02] <jagginess> sam__25, webup8 ?
[21:02] <SirTravers> yep
[21:02] <sam__25> no
[21:02] <SirTravers> "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-prereleases"
[21:02] <sam__25> is it in synaptic
[21:03] <SirTravers> "sudo apt-get update"
[21:03] <SirTravers> "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[21:03] <Ubungirl> @SirTravers, Excuse me.
[21:03] <sam__25> Itried but it give me error message
[21:03] <SirTravers> Ubungirl, is issue? sorry
[21:03] <SirTravers> just tryin to help sam
[21:04] <Ubungirl> @SirTravers, What is 42?
[21:04] <jagginess> HelloComputer15, maybe your xorg.conf is faulty..
[21:04] <J11> I posted it here http://pastebin.com/ndJDCWDD
[21:04] <jagginess> HelloComputer15, X is able to start without xorg.conf (you can rename the config file and see if the error goes away)
[21:04] <SirTravers> 42 is the meaning of life
[21:04] <SirTravers> don't forget your towel
[21:04] <Ubungirl> @SirTravers, Gottcha!
[21:05] <Ubungirl> @SirTravers, That's it then? Don't panic?
[21:05] <SirTravers> everyone knows a hitch hiker with a towel is prepared for anything ;)
[21:06] <NetSade> hello ppl
[21:06] <Ubungirl> @SirTravers, Wrong, This reality is nothing more than an interwoven consciousness experiencing itself subjectively simply to be aware of its own existence.
[21:06] <J11> I'm trying to print something but it won't print
[21:06] <NetSade> im having a problem with passwords on zip files, I can not add on
[21:06] <SirTravers> doh....i've seen the movie twice is all hehe
[21:07] <dcw329> hello hello!
[21:07] <SirTravers> love it though
[21:07] <dcw329> i dont know why u say goodbye
[21:07] <NetSade> any suggestions
[21:07] <dcw329> i say hello
[21:07] <Ubungirl> @dcw329, Oh say can you see.
[21:07] <dcw329> i can see?
[21:08] <chakal^-^> hello dcw329
[21:08] <SirTravers> Ubungirl, now my head is spinning haha
[21:08] <gmachine_24> !offtopic
[21:08] <Ubungirl> @SirTravers, You don't want to be my pet?
[21:08] <arejay> I'm having some seriois problems, for some reason chrome and certain other parts of my system are in german others are in english (im using gnome-classic) and in control panel under lang English unitedstates is set
[21:08] <artur67sm> русскоговорящие есть?
[21:08] <arejay> anyone have any ideas?
[21:08] <wylde_> !ru | artur67sm
[21:09] <dcw329> fastest way to fix a problem like that arejay
[21:09] <gmachine_24> !greek
[21:09] <dcw329> just uninstall, reinstall
[21:09] <dcw329> lol
[21:09] <HelloWorld321> Jagginess: I have removed my xorg.conf.  I have two xorg.conf-backup files, an xorg.conf.failsafe, and an xorg.conf.bad  But no xorg.conf file
[21:09] <arejay> dude, srsly
[21:09] <dcw329> actually, that might not work come to think of it
[21:09] <arejay> i just did it
[21:09] <SirTravers> ok i can't read that. it's all greek to me
[21:09] <arejay> ya :/
[21:09] <mrdeb> hi
[21:09] <Ubungirl> @mrdeb, Hello.
[21:09] <dcw329> hmm. give me a second, and ill look at my chrome
[21:09] <dcw329> and find the settings for you
[21:09] <HelloWorld321> (or russian)
[21:09] <dcw329> since urs is porbbaly in german right?
[21:09] <arejay> let me try a restore from my deja dup
[21:09] <arejay> and see
[21:09] <arejay> ok
[21:09] <arejay> ya
[21:09] <FloodBot1> arejay: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:09] <Ubungirl> @arejay, I haven't played in a long time.
[21:10] <arejay> :(
[21:10] <arejay> its weird tho, even like under applications everything is english except my wine menu/apps are german
[21:11] <HelloWorld321> played what?
[21:11] <arejay> at first it was japan
[21:11] <Ubungirl> @arejay, I love Japan.
[21:11] <newtoubuntu> i downloaded firestarter, configured the firewall, couldn't connect to the internet through firefox or ubuntu software manager, so removed firestarter, still can't connect, what do i do?
[21:11] <SirTravers> wb newtoubuntu
[21:11] <dcw329> japan is pretty amazing
[21:11] <arejay> not awesome on my notebook when i cant read it
[21:11] <arejay> :(
[21:11] <newtoubuntu> sirtravers seems i made a stupid mistake
[21:12] <dcw329> ok
[21:12] <dcw329> in chrome
[21:12] <dcw329> go to the wrench
[21:12] <SirTravers> nah..... every mistake is a learning experience
[21:12] <Cottus> newtoubuntu, service network-manager restart?
[21:12] <HelloWorld321> Can somebody give me some insights on configuring my lspci | grep VGA"00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)" based on my Xorg.0.log at http://pastebin.com/XCSJrXVA
[21:12] <Ubungirl> @SirTravers, That is completely true.
[21:12] <dcw329> should be 5th from botom
[21:12] <arejay> k
[21:12] <arejay> got it
[21:12] <dcw329> its settings
[21:12] <newtoubuntu> cottus please explain
[21:12] <dcw329> takes you to a new tab
[21:12] <arejay> chrome://chrome/settings/
[21:12] <dcw329> all the way at the bottom, its a URL for advanced
[21:12] <arejay> gotcha
[21:12] <Ubungirl> @arejay, My sister out-clevered you.
[21:13] <NetSade> Im tring to set a password on a archive file, but the file will not save with the password. any suggestions
[21:13] <dcw329> 5th up from the bottom, its languages
[21:13] <dcw329> and there is a buton, and a checkbox
[21:13] <dcw329> click the button above the ckeck box
[21:13] <dcw329> should be a popup, and a list of languages
[21:13] <Cottus> newtoubuntu, terminal > sudo service network-manager restart. network-manager is the one that tryies to connect to the ethernet/wireless and later get an ip
[21:13] <dcw329> i just have english and english (united states)
[21:13] <SirTravers> i've reinstalled so many times i can do it in less than an hour from start to finish hehe.
[21:13] <Ubungirl> @SirTravers, I can see that.
[21:13] <J11> what kernel modules are needed for usb printing?
[21:14] <dcw329> if all you see is dutsches (<-i think thats german for german) then yo umight need to dwonload the language packages
[21:14] <Cottus> newtoubuntu, it's not a firewall, so the problem may remain
[21:14] <arejay> i dont need dutch
[21:14] <arejay> ima see if i can apt-get remove it
[21:14] <arejay> :/
[21:14] <dcw329> did i lose you anywhere arejay?
[21:14] <Cottus> newtoubuntu, it will restart network
[21:14] <arejay> nah dcw it just reverts back
[21:14] <arejay> after selecting english
[21:14] <arejay> :/
[21:14] <FloodBot1> arejay: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:14] <Ubungirl> @arejay, Do you grow old?
[21:14] <dcw329> hmm interesting
[21:15] <newtoubuntu> cottus still cant connect
[21:15] <enbloc> can I configure gnome-keyring to require my ssh keys passPHRASE instead of unlocking it with my account passWORD? The current behavior is broken for people with short term memory problems
[21:15] <dcw329> no, arejay stays young forever
[21:15] <arejay> hehe :)
[21:15] <J11> I did a lsmod | grep usb and i only get usbhid , hid and usb_storage
[21:15] <Cottus> newtoubuntu, ok
[21:15] <KepX> anyone know where can i get this cursor http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs8/i/2005/332/2/a/X11_Cursors_by_blackevilweredragon.png ?
[21:15] <dcw329> he is "FOREVER YOUNG, FOREVER YOUNG, FOREVERY YOUNG" *singing*
[21:15] <Ubungirl> @dcw329, And what kind of age difference are we talking?
[21:15] <arejay> wait whats the name of that app that pops up when u do a new instal
[21:15] <arejay> and ask to install extra langs
[21:16] <arejay> i wonder if something went wrong there
[21:16] <SirTravers> newtoubuntu, are you connecting to your router at all?
[21:16] <newtoubuntu> let me check
[21:16] <dcw329> @ubungirl, are you asking my age? or arejay? i actually dont know the guy. lol
[21:16] <Ubungirl> @newtoubuntu, What did you find?
[21:16] <newtoubuntu> vo
[21:16] <newtoubuntu> no
[21:16] <arejay> <- 29
[21:16] <dcw329> <- 19
[21:17] <Ubungirl> @dcw329, What is it about?
[21:17] <arejay> im deja duppin this thing again
[21:17] <HelloWorld321> !ot aslg
[21:17] <arejay> :-/
[21:17] <dcw329> i have no idea what ubungirl is talking about right...
[21:17] <SirTravers> newto you using which desktop interface?
[21:17] <brandonbolton> How can I install Ubuntu server via USB? It always gives me some error about failed to find CD drive.
[21:17] <Ubungirl> @SirTravers, Skin cells, right?
[21:18] <DJones> Ubungirl: arejay dcw329 Can you move the general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:18] <newtoubuntu> ubuntu 12.04.... unity???
[21:18] <Cottus> brandonbolton, maybe there is a boot option "press F?? to select boot device"
[21:18] <SirTravers> ok then look up top...on the network indicator and click it please
[21:18] <Ubungirl> @Cottus, Is there?
[21:19] <brandonbolton> Cottus, It says failed to find CD drive during the installtion process. I can boot off of the USB just fine.
[21:19] <BenW> SirT ... made things worse. It dropped me to a text login. i logged in and was able to do startx but it's still insisting there's no compatible hardware. Where is the xorg.conf or whatever it uses to just manually set it back?
[21:19] <SirTravers> what options does it show?
[21:19] <SirTravers> wired? wireless?
[21:19] <augustl> so my touchpad isn't working.. Anything I can restart and/or debug to figure out what's causing it? Don't wanna bite the dust and reboot :)
[21:19] <Cottus> my laptop has ESC
[21:19] <newtoubuntu> sirtravers it shows a list
[21:19] <Ubungirl> @newtoubuntu, I think it's only average.
[21:20] <jasonbourne> august1 - checked dmesg yet??
[21:20] <newtoubuntu> ubungirl didnt get that
[21:20] <Ubungirl> @newtoubuntu, N&atilde;ooo, &eacute; um estado.
[21:21] <jagginess> augustl, laptop?
[21:21] <augustl> jasonbourne: hmm some errors there, thanks :)
[21:21] <newtoubuntu> sirtravers wired connection 2?
[21:21] <augustl> jagginess: yup, thinkpad t420s
[21:21] <jasonbourne> august1 = anytime
[21:21] <augustl> "psmouse sero1: bad data from KVC - timeout" etc
[21:21] <SirTravers> try tellin it to disconnect and reconnect
[21:22] <Ubungirl> @SirTravers, Tell you what?
[21:22] <Ubungirl> @HelloWorld321, 19, and you?
[21:22] <Myrtti> hmmm
[21:23] <newtoubuntu> sirtravers doesnt solve thr prob
[21:23] <DJones> Ubungirl: Stay on topic, this is a support channel, not a chat channel
[21:23] <Ubungirl> @DJones, What are you then?
[21:23] <jasonbourne> yesterday Ubuntu 12.04LTS automatically downloaded 47 updates of which I thought I saw a new kernel with a 26 in it...does Ubuntu install the new kernel automatically or do I have to??...anyone know??
[21:24] <Myrtti> Ubungirl: foobar foobar bazwibble
[21:24] <wylde_> I   suspect Ubungirl is a bot...just sayin'
[21:24] <Ubungirl> @wylde_, No, I don't think so.
[21:24] <jagginess> augustl, from comment#26 people posted solution/s https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/804109
[21:24] <Myrtti> Ubungirl: do you like apples or bananas more?
[21:25] <Ubungirl> @Myrtti, Yes.
[21:25] <jagginess> augustl, (i believe post #18 may apply but is very difficult to undo changes to it)
[21:25] <newtoubuntu> help
[21:26] <jagginess> augustl, there's also the synclient app-- dunno if that'll help, first try comment#26
[21:26] <jasonbourne> yesterday Ubuntu 12.04LTS automatically downloaded 47 updates of which I thought I saw a new kernel with a 26 in it...does Ubuntu install the new kernel automatically or do I have to??...anyone know??
[21:26] <gmachine_24> jasonbourne, I'm pretty sure it's automatically installed
[21:26] <jasonbourne> don't see it upon bootup
[21:26] <jasonbourne> keeps showing kernel images with a 25 in it...
[21:27] <Geodesical> Hello. I am having trouble with sound on my system. sometimes when I turn it on, there is no sound through speakers or headphones, and I have to restart it 3-4 times to get my sound back. Any help?
[21:27] <jagginess> augustl, post#45 says you can use dconf-tools , let me know if this trick works.. thanks..
[21:27] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24I thought it would also...
[21:27] <WeThePeople> is there a html editor anything like notepad
[21:27] <HelloWorld321> How do I configure my lspci | grep VGA"00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)" (Xorg.0.log at http://pastebin.com/XCSJrXVA)
[21:27] <WeThePeople> ++ for ubuntu
[21:27] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 I thought it would also...
[21:27] <Geodesical> newtoubuntu: just ask your question, someone may help you.
[21:28] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - maybe it did but the grub menu still shows the older kernel?? don't think it would do that though...
[21:28] <jagginess> WeThePeople, it wouldnt be for ubuntu..perhaps google:"list of html editor for linux site:wikipedia.org"
[21:28] <jagginess> WeThePeople, but for any linux
[21:29] <brandonbolton> Whenever I try to install Ubuntu Server 12.04 it says failed to find CD Drive during the installtion screen and everything turns red. Is there any way I can fix that?
[21:29] <jagginess> WeThePeople, (i'm sure if you type html in your software center search box, you'll get editor results)
[21:30] <brandonbolton> WeThePeople, I use Bluefish for HTML.
[21:30] <Geodesical> Hello. I am having trouble with sound on my system. sometimes when I turn it on, there is no sound through speakers or headphones, and I have to restart it 3-4 times to get my sound back. Any help?
[21:30] <jasonbourne> Geodesical - check dmesg for any errors pertaining to sound
[21:31] <jagginess> Geodesical, laptop?
[21:31] <Lafiir> I just ran TrueCrypt (haven't for a while), clicked on 'Select Device' and noticed a 1023 MB large /dev/sr0 not mounted which I have never seen before. Any idea what it is or how I can find out?
[21:31] <jagginess> Lafiir, sr0 is cd drive
[21:31] <newtoubuntu> one prob solved another one crops up- when i restart my system screen goes back to lower resolutions despite saving nvidia x something
[21:31] <gmachine_24> jasonbournce, did you try $uname -a
[21:31] <Geodesical> jaginess: no, desktop.
[21:31] <gmachine_24> jasonbourne, did you try $uname -a
[21:32] <Lafiir> jagginess: cd drive? that doesn't make any sense
[21:32] <J11> still having trouble with printing, now I get  failed to claim interface  and no corresponding CUPS device found
[21:32] <jagginess> Geodesical, you have 2 sound chips? onboard?
[21:32] <Geodesical> jasonbourne: yeah, no clue on how to do that...
[21:32] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - yes and it says 3.2.0-25-generic
[21:33] <jasonbourne> so I guess it didn't install it
[21:33] <Geodesical> jaginess: would I have to open the actual computer to find that out?
[21:33] <jagginess> Lafiir, ya that does sound weird.. system probably sees it as a read-only device
[21:33] <jasonbourne> Geodesical - /var/log
[21:33] <jasonbourne> ls -l dmesg
[21:33] <jagginess> Geodesical?
[21:33] <Geodesical> yeh
[21:33] <jagginess> Geodesical, what motherboard you have? (dmidecode can show)
[21:33] <Netham45> I have a relatively clean server install that refuses to automatically boot from grub with ubuntu being the only installed OS, anyone know what's up?
[21:33] <BenW> SirT - managed to remove the drver pkg and got ir fixed back, i guess it's just as good as it's going to get. but thanks for the help
[21:34] <gmachine_24> jasonbourne, that's what mine says
[21:34] <jagginess> Geodesical, btw..
[21:34] <jagginess> Geodesical, aplay --list  i think lists play devices..
[21:34] <tylerflint> anybody here familiar with mounting?
[21:34] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - I know I saw a 39MB download of something related to a kernel image with a 26 in it...
[21:35] <Guest70854> How do I change keyboard language in KDE?
[21:35] <jasonbourne> thought it would've installed it automatically
[21:35] <tylerflint> what I'm trying to do is catch a umount command
[21:35] <Geodesical> jaginess: dmidecode gets me #dmidecode 2.11
[21:35] <tylerflint> usually in RedHat distros I can just create a /sbin/umount.type executable
[21:35] <Guest70854> I am trying to type in russian in KDE but I do not know how to change keyboard settings
[21:35] <tylerflint> for some reason that doesn't work in precise
[21:36] <jasonbourne> Guest70854 - try checking in settings...
[21:36] <Guest70854> I did
[21:36] <kim__> hello, is there anyone from Chile?
[21:36] <jagginess> Geodesical, (maybe later for dmidecode to show more stuff), but aplay --list, would show the playable devices
[21:36] <gmachine_24> jasonbourne, did you try $sudo aptitude update /// then $sudo aptitude upgrade
[21:37] <Jordan_U> tylerflint: "catch" for what purpose?
[21:37] <Guest70854> I added russian as a preferred language.  In unity, I can switch easily between languages but in KDE it won't.
[21:37] <Lafiir> jagginess: Why is it listed there in the first place (bug with truecrypt?)  and why this size?
[21:37] <goventus> hello world
[21:37] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - not yet...
[21:37] <Guest70854> I got the language bar to pop up in the kde panel but it has no options.
[21:37] <gmachine_24> jasonbourne, I use 'aptitude' when I want to make sure everything is installed
[21:37] <gmachine_24> and #25 is available and installed using aptitude
[21:37] <tylerflint> Jordan_U: well, it's complicated, and mostly related to the fuse adapter and bind mounting
[21:38] <jagginess> Lafiir, maybe udev should ignore that device.. or try to make udev call truecrypt if it detects that device
[21:38] <HelloWorld321> Hello goventus
[21:38] <Geodesical> jaginess: aplay --list-devices gives me card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC880 Analog [ALC880 Analog] with 1/1 subdevices.
[21:38] <goventus> does anyone use TIER?
[21:38] <Guest70854> Does anyone use KDE?
[21:38] <Jordan_U> tylerflint: Try explaining it.
[21:38] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - I understand but the download was automatic while the machine was running...wasn't started by me....but I'm running the update now to see if it installs it now...
[21:39] <gmachine_24> jasonbourne, but a lot of times packages are kept back for what reasons I'm not sure.... this is above my pay grade
[21:39] <tylerflint> Jordan_U: well, I'm hosting a couple of clients on a single server, I use lxc and openvz to namespace "containerize" them...
[21:39] <goventus> HelloWorld321: nice nickname =)
[21:39] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - just ran both and nothing...maybe I'm seeing things...hehehe...
[21:39] <jasonbourne> ??
[21:40] <Geodesical> goventus: lol mindless chatter...
[21:40] <gmachine_24> jasonbourne, nothing as in........?
[21:40] <tylerflint> Jordan_U: I have a glusterfs storage cluster, and I mount a volume to the host machine via the gluster fuse adapter
[21:40] <jagginess> Geodesical, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[21:40] <goventus> Geodesical, me?
[21:40] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - ran the update and upgrade but nothing happened...
[21:40] <Geodesical> jaginess: thanks bro.
[21:40] <jagginess> Geodesical, do you get "disagress about version of symbol" with dmesg ?
[21:40] <HelloWorld321> jagginess: is there one like that for video?
[21:40] <jagginess> Geodesical, dmesg |grep snd_hda_intel
[21:41] <tylerflint> Jordan_U: then I bind mount specific directories into the containers for the clients
[21:41] <Geodesical> goventus: yeah, I tried to make chatter with another person once on #ubuntu... I got kicked out...
[21:41] <gmachine_24> jasonbourne, my computer is installing 3.2.0-25-generic
[21:41] <tylerflint> Jordan_U: it works great... except when any of the clients do a umount -f on the bind mounts, it propogates to the fuse adapter and the fuse adapter terminates the session
[21:42] <Geodesical> jaginess: does that go into the terminal?
[21:42] <jagginess> Geodesical, try with sudo
[21:42] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - automatically??
[21:42] <brandonbolton> Is there a way to install Ubuntu Server without a CD drive? I try via usb but I always get errors.
[21:42] <Geodesical> jaginess: what do you mean?
[21:42] <tylerflint> Jordan_U: so, I'm trying to add a simple /sbin/umount.fuse.glusterfs executable
[21:42] <jagginess> Geodesical, "dmesg | grep snd_hda_intel" <enter>
[21:42] <tylerflint> Jordan_U: it works perfectly for any non-ubuntu guests
[21:42] <gmachine_24> I ran $sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[21:43] <Lafiir> jagginess: calling truecrypt wouldn't make sense, since it has nothing to do with it, it's just listed there. so udev should probably ignore it. whatever it is
[21:43] <Geodesical> jaginess: I did so in the terminal.
[21:43] <jagginess> Geodesical, or "sudo dmesg | grep snd_hda_intel" <enter>
[21:43] <newtoubuntu>  when i restart my system screen goes back to lower resolutions despite saving nvidia x display something
[21:43] <jagginess> Lafiir, you probably have a special usb-drive that offers a read-only device on it
[21:45] <gmachine_24> jasonbourne, I'm going to reboot and I think et voile it will be installed and working I'll brb
[21:46] <Geodesical> jaginess: it gave me "PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16"  "irq 45 for MSI/MSI-X"  "setting latency timer to 64"
[21:46] <Jordan_U> tylerflint: You could try making a /sbin/umount (without a .foo) wrapper. Why are the guests trying to umount -f the bind mounts?
[21:47] <tylerflint> Jordan_U: well, the guests aren't themselves, when I say guests I mean the guest OS's. Apparently when ubuntu shuts down it does a umount -f on everything that's mounted
[21:49] <jagginess> Geodesical, dmidecode --type 0,1,2
[21:49] <jagginess> Geodesical, acer motherboard?
[21:49] <gmachine_24> jasonbourne, everything installed and running
[21:50] <Geodesical> jaginess: I think so, it was meant to run Windows XP. it says "intel inside" on the front.
[21:50] <mikefarr> I just intstalled 12.04 - trying to get ubuntu to recognize my usb headset with mic - not working so good - any suggestions?
[21:50] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - well that's the same kernel I have...maybe my old eyes are seeing things....
[21:51] <jagginess> Geodesical, what is the "motherboard" or "board" name as output from dmidecode please..
[21:51] <jagginess> Geodesical, just "intel" * ?
[21:51] <gmachine_24> jasonbourne, this is the one I have installed 3.2.0-25-generic #40
[21:51] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - but at 39MB I thought for sure it was a new kernel...
[21:51] <tylerflint> Jordan_U: what I'd really like to do is see the source that was packaged in the "mount" package
[21:52] <tylerflint> Jordan_U: this is the package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/mount
[21:52] <Jordan_U> tylerflint: apt-get source mount # Will download the source package to your current directory.
[21:52] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - maybe it was a *service* pack of some type for the kernel already present (?)
[21:52] <tylerflint> Jordan_U: oh nice, let me try that
[21:52] <jagginess> Geodesical, (you may need to use sudo for that dmidecode command)
[21:52] <gmachine_24> jasonbourne, so you have 3.2.0-25 installed?
[21:52] <finaltek> Heyt
[21:53] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - yep....
[21:53] <Geodesical> jaginess: is SUDO  the terminal?
[21:53] <hekate> Hi, I am trying to format a CD-R that I recently burnt some audio files to. The CD apparently isn't recognized as an audio-cd in cd players though. How do I format the CD to start a-new? Everytime I try to delete the files on it, it says it's a read-only filesystem.
[21:53] <gmachine_24> jasonbourne, well that's the new one
[21:53] <jagginess> Geodesical, no sudo is a prefix to superuser commands..
[21:53] <Geodesical> jaginess: you just went way over my head with that.
[21:53] <jagginess> Geodesical, sudo is a command, but it is used as a prefix to the actual commands you wish to use as superuser
[21:53] <HelloWorld321> yes.  sudo is the terminal.  Its short for SuperUserDO, and it will re-run any command you type at a higher system privilege level
[21:53] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - but at 39MB I thought for sure it was a new kernel...
[21:53] <Geodesical> jaginess: OH.
[21:54] <honey> hi everybody
[21:54] <jagginess> Geodesical, superuser do
[21:54] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - but I know I saw a 26 in there....
[21:54] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - know a command for checking what was installed during last update??
[21:54] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - or I guess I can check via software center...correct??
[21:55] <tylerflint> Jordan_U: well that's strange, it should be calling that
[21:55] <jagginess> HelloComputer15, sudo isnt a terminal..
[21:55] <jagginess> (it's a command in terminal)
[21:55] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - this is what I got from the command line: 3.2.0-25-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 23 20:33:05
[21:55] <gmachine_24> jasonbourne, I was going to say via Synaptic but the software center probably
[21:55] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - ok..thanks...
[21:56] <HelloWorld321> jagginess: yes, you're right.  That's true.  It's a command in the terminal.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudo
[21:56] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - thanks for your help...
[21:56] <species_4981> please can someone remind me: if I have a file full of numbers in columns and rows and I want to cut some lines out and generate files which are full of parts of this "master" file, is it easily done via something like cat "mainfile" | grep [wanted strings] > "subfile"?
[21:56] <gmachine_24> jasonbourne, but I am going. Going to the ball game tonight. sure thing
[21:56] <jasonbourne> gmachine_24 - later...
[21:56] <jagginess> Geodesical, also if you need to edit a file in /etc you need to be superuser, you can use "gksudo gedit /etc/somefile" so you can edit it graphically (gksudo can be called from terminal box)
[21:57] <jagginess> Geodesical, when sudo prompts for password you type your user password(not superuser's)
[21:58] <jagginess> Geodesical, by default the first user is an administrator.. so hopefully you're using the right user account
[21:58] <Geodesical> jaginess: yeah, its an Intel board. (Version AAC85199-203, Product Name D915GUX)
[21:59] <hekate> Hi, I am trying to format a CD-R that I recently burnt some audio files to. The CD apparently isn't recognized as an audio-cd in cd players though. How do I format the CD to start a-new? Everytime I try to delete the files on it, it says it's a read-only filesystem.
[21:59] <Jordan_U> species_4981: 1: Since you have numbers in colums and rows you'll probably want to use awk and 2: "cat" is not needed, grep accepts filenames: grep 'pattern here' filename > subfile
[21:59] <jagginess> Geodesical, the objective here is to find out what can be used as the model=<something> for the snd-hda-intel module
[21:59] <TheLordOfTime> hekate:  did you write the audio files as data, or did you use a program to burn as an audio cd?
[22:00] <jagginess> Geodesical, http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt
[22:00] <Cyclohexane> is it possible to make tar skip permission denied and not stop to return the error?
[22:00] <species_4981> Jordan_U: brilliant - thanks for the advice. Time to read about awk and also, thanks for the info on grep ... lots to learn
[22:00] <Jordan_U> hekate: Use a program like Brasero to make an audio CD. If the CD contains "files" then it's not an audio CD.
[22:00] <jagginess> Geodesical, acer's may carry an "intel" board internally, but they are slightly modified..
[22:00] <mikefarr> if anyone has some suggestions about the usb headset / mic just let me know - thanks
[22:00] <jagginess> Geodesical, so that's why there are some "acer" thigs mentioned on that url i just posted..
[22:00] <Jordan_U> species_4981: You're welcome. Also, #bash is a great channel for asking about and learning shell scripting.
[22:01] <jagginess> Geodesical, you're not using an acer aspire are you or an "acer" model?
[22:01] <Geodesical> jagginess: so what exactly should I be looking for?
[22:01] <jagginess> Geodesical, do you have an acer?
[22:01] <species_4981> nice one, Jordan_U I shall join it ... I've just started trying to write shell scripts
[22:01] <jagginess> Geodesical, or a "branded" built computer?
[22:01] <Geodesical> jagginess: no, its gateway.
[22:02] <hekate> Jordan_U: ok, but how I can get Brasero to recognize my CD? When I put it in, Nautilus opens up with a listing of the contents of the CD, however when I go to Tools>Blank to erase the CD, Brasero says there is no CD present
[22:02] <Jordan_U> hekate: Is it a CDRW or just a CDR?
[22:02] <jagginess> Geodesical, the objective here is to find out what can be used as the model=<something> for the snd-hda-intel module
[22:03] <Geodesical> jagginess: you said that above. can you put it in laymans' terms please?
[22:03] <jagginess> Geodesical, driver options
[22:04] <hekate> Jordan_U: CD-R apparently...uhoh, does this mean I can't wipe it?
[22:04] <Jordan_U> hekate: Correct. You'll need a new CD.
[22:06] <hekate> Jordan_U: I seem to have gotten a box of CD-Rs...I wasn't thinking that day in Walmart
[22:07] <Geodesical> jagginess: alright. # dmidecode 2.11
[22:07] <Geodesical> SMBIOS 2.3 present.
[22:07] <Geodesical> Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 20 bytes
[22:07] <Geodesical> BIOS Information
[22:07] <Geodesical> 	Vendor: Intel Corp.
[22:07] <FloodBot1> Geodesical: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:07] <jagginess> Geodesical, i want to be sure of your gateway model.. you didnt give me.. i'll make it easier-- apt-get install xclip (or can from ubuntu software center), then in console-> dmidecode |xclip <enter>  .. then use middlemouse button to paste in pastebin.com (post url back in here)
[22:08] <Cyclohexane> is it possible to make tar skip permission denied and not stop to return the error?
[22:08] <Geodesical> whoops.
[22:08] <jagginess> Geodesical, (dont need to go to this url, url i'm asking for should be like http://pastebin.com/9w2qVG8U )
[22:09] <jagginess> Cyclohexane, try using -C
[22:09] <jagginess> Cyclohexane, mkdir adir, tar xvzvf tarball.tar.gz -C adir<enter>
[22:09] <Geodesical> jagginess: http://pastebin.com/hZEDbzEC
[22:10] <jagginess> (i had an extra v there by accdident.. can be-> tar xzvf )
[22:10] <dcw329> hello world!
[22:10] <dcw329> hello world!
[22:11] <dcw329> hello world!
[22:11] <FloodBot1> dcw329: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:11] <Geodesical> dcw329: supppp
[22:11] <dcw329> hey, just alittle bored
[22:11] <dcw329> thought id log on and help some people out
[22:11] <syddraf> Does anyone know of a music converter that doesn't crash every time I run it?
[22:12] <jagginess> Geodesical, says your gateway is a 4300
[22:12] <syddraf> I need to convert a mass library of flac into mp3
[22:12] <jagginess> Geodesical, e4300
[22:12] <Jordan_U> syddraf: lame
[22:12] <Geodesical> dcw329:yeah, help is needed around here.
[22:12] <JohnTeddy> How can I find out what package a particular file on my system belongs to?
[22:12] <dcw329> how big is the library?
[22:12] <Geodesical> jagginess: so what youre saying is...?
[22:12] <syddraf> 15 gigs of flac
[22:13] <dcw329> yeah, thats gunna take awhile. lol
[22:13] <dcw329> ill see if i can find you a program
[22:13] <syddraf> I don't mind the time. I mind it not crashing. "Sound Converter" crashes constantly.
[22:13] <jagginess> Geodesical, you have a luxembourg intel..
[22:13] <jagginess> Geodesical, http://support.gateway.com/us/en/product/default.aspx?partNumber=1008374
[22:13] <jagginess> Geodesical, your bios can be updated to 5 years later..
[22:14] <jagginess> Geodesical, i'll see if there's an easy procdure to do this for you
[22:15] <dcw329> it will be easy to do once yo ufind the right program
[22:15] <dcw329> and anyoen can google "sound converter"
[22:15] <dcw329> i just want to make sure i find a free one, with a reputation of NOT having a virus
[22:15] <dcw329> lol
[22:15] <mimoid> Does ecryptfs still limit the size of file names in a volume?
[22:16] <Geodesical> jagginess: thank you, I am a major n00b to the techy end of computers.
[22:17] <jagginess> Geodesical, pm? i can make a bootable iso i can show you the source
[22:17] <icecube> hey, i need some help understanding torrents
[22:18] <icecube> a bunch of the different linux distos recommend downloading from a torrent, as well as other files i need/desire
[22:18] <jagginess> Geodesical, a msdos boot disk is needed (but there's a way to burn a cd with a disk image on it)
[22:18] <icecube> but i have no idea where to even get started with this
[22:18] <Geodesical> jagginess: oke-doke.
[22:18] <syddraf> Ubuntu: Deluge, Transmission
[22:18] <syddraf> Windows: Deluge, uTorrent
[22:18] <saady>  /msg saady  identify  sos123
[22:19] <saady> oops
[22:19] <Jordan_U> saady: Change your password.
[22:19] <Geodesical> jagginess: huh.
[22:19] <Jordan_U> saady: You should either have your client auto-identify, or identify in the server tab. Also, you need to msg nickserv, not yourself.
[22:22] <newmacair> hi everyone
[22:22] <newmacair> well, i'm having issues installing ubuntu on my new mac air
[22:22] <newmacair> it's such a pain. they changed bootcamp so you can't really do it that way anymoer
[22:23] <newmacair> and the USB method on the website doesn't seem to work. any tips or direction?
[22:24] <lukas> hi
[22:24] <JohnTeddy> How can I find out what package a particular file on my system belongs to?
[22:24] <lukas> i have a problem installing new ubuntu 12.04
[22:24] <lukas> after instalation i can't use keyboard or mouse
[22:24] <lukas> both USB
[22:25] <Jordan_U> newmacair: Boot camp was never a good way to install GNU/Linux on a Mac. Among other things it creates an ugly hybrid MBR, which is only needed for Windows.
[22:26] <newmacair> Jordan U: so, what's the best angle of attack these days? i already have rEFIt installed, and i've downloaded the 64 bit ISO
[22:26] <Jordan_U> newmacair: Do you have an external USB CDROM drive which you can use?
[22:26] <newmacair> Jordan U: I do not, although i do have a flash drive
[22:26] <lukas> can anyone help?
[22:27] <arooni-mobile> to have widgets on ubutnu 12.04 is screenlets my only choice?  i dont like screenlets or plexydesk  as they seem too resource intensive.
[22:27] <jagginess> Geodesical, http://ifile.it/t5wdknl/gateway_e4300_SE91510J.15A.2609.iso
[22:28] <Jordan_U> newmacair: The process for installing to a mac is easier and more reliable (less likelyhood of graphics driver problems) with a CD, but it can be done with a flash drive instead. Do you have another Ubuntu machine (even just one booted from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB) which you can use to create the bootable flash drive?
[22:28] <root> hello
[22:29] <newmacair> i do
[22:29] <Jordan_U> root: Hi. You shouldn't run your IRC client as root.
[22:29] <Guest17761> alguem brasileiro
[22:29] <Jordan_U> !br | Guest17761
[22:30] <lukas> i have a problem and looking for help: after installing ubuntu 12.04 the mouse and kyboard stops working, evet in recovery mode, but they are working fine in livecd. can anyone help?
[22:30] <newmacair> Jordan_U: what method would you suggest of doing that? i've heard that only certain kinds of USB boot drives work on macs
[22:30] <root_>  ai
[22:31] <root_> algguem ai
[22:31] <Jordan_U> newmacair: The hardware doesn't matter, it's how the USB drive is prepared which matters. I would recommend installing grub-efi to the flash drive and using that to loop boot an Ubuntu iso file.
[22:31] <Jordan_U> !br | root_
[22:32] <newmacair> i want to smack steve jobs for making this process so hard
[22:32] <newmacair> its so easy with PC's
[22:32] <koko_> hello
[22:33] <Evi1john1> anyone familiar with sagan?
[22:33] <Jordan_U> !anyone | Evi1john1
[22:33] <koko_> what is the best practice on web server  for security ?
[22:33] <lukas> i have a problem and looking for help: after installing ubuntu 12.04 the mouse and keyboard stops working, evet in recovery mode, but they are working fine in livecd. can anyone help?
[22:34] <Evi1john1> YEa..... anyways has anyone install sagan on ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32bit server
[22:35] <Jordan_U> Evi1john1: I'm assuming that you're having a problem installing sagan. Try stating what problem you're actually having.
[22:36] <Evi1john1> no trouble with it stopping randomly. It starts fine but stops working at random intervals. It didn't seem to do this on 10.04
[22:36] <lukas> is there anyone who can help me?
[22:36] <dreadiscool> hello
[22:36] <leonardo_> Hi, I'm using Gnome Classic on Ubuntu 12.04. Does anyone knows how to hide the status bar, I mean, the bar at the bottom?
[22:36] <dreadiscool> I downloaded the .iso file from the site, could someone please tell me what to do from here? I don't want to burn a disk, is there some way I can mount it?
[22:37] <Evi1john1> i thought it was the log rotation and the reload of rsyslogd
[22:37] <jagginess> dreadiscool, you dont mount a blank disk
[22:37] <Evi1john1> not it
[22:37] <dreadiscool> so what do i do withthe iso?
[22:37] <newmacair> if i'm making a partition for linux on an imac, what format should it be?
[22:37] <dreadiscool> im running xp
[22:37] <jagginess> dreadiscool, windows? try to do use imgburn (its free and a button to say burn image)
[22:38] <lukas> i need help: after installing ubuntu 12.04 the mouse and keyboard stops working, evet in recovery mode, but they are working fine in livecd. can anyone help?
[22:38] <dreadiscool> Is there a way to do it without burning a disk though?
[22:38] <jagginess> dreadiscool, usb..? there's pendrive..
[22:38] <dreadiscool> I have it on a usb
[22:38] <dreadiscool> but the ISO file
[22:38] <jagginess> dreadiscool, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[22:38] <dreadiscool> Is there a way i can do this with the ISO?
[22:38] <jagginess> dreadiscool, take that iso file off the usb and place it on your xp harddrve
[22:38] <dreadiscool> I don't want to redownload the thing
[22:38] <Jordan_U> dreadiscool: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[22:38] <jagginess> dreadiscool, format that usb device to fat32
[22:39] <dreadiscool> i already wasted like 12 hours of my life downloading the iso
[22:39] <Jordan_U> dreadiscool: Nobody has said anything about redownloading the iso.
[22:39] <jagginess> dreadiscool, then mount back that fat32 on xp as a G:\ (or some other letter drive), then run the .exe usb-installer tool
[22:39] <dreadiscool> I mean I'm sure that you can do it with the ISO, otherwise they wouldn't have put it there right?
[22:39] <dreadiscool> whaa
[22:39] <jagginess> dreadiscool, read my 3 steps.
[22:39] <dreadiscool> So i downloaded the installer
[22:39] <dreadiscool> can i select the ISO that I have on the pen drive
[22:39] <dreadiscool> from the installer?
[22:40] <Jordan_U> dreadiscool: Yes, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows has very clear instructions on how to do this, including screenshots.
[22:40] <jagginess> dreadiscool, 1-format fat32 on usb, 2-letter drive on xp for that fat32 3- run the .exe usb-maker  --- AND DONT HAVE THE ISO ON THE USB DRIVE (move/copy that to the internal xp drive)
[22:40] <Jordan_U> jagginess: I much prefer the official Ubuntu documentation for this (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows).
[22:41] <jagginess> Jordan_U, "Page not found" .
[22:41] <jagginess> helpful.
[22:41] <jagginess> oh without the ) at the end.. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows  .. ya that works..
[22:41] <Jordan_U> jagginess: Your IRC client interpreted the ')' as part of the URL. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[22:41] <jagginess> however it fails to mention fo format fat32 for the usb device..
[22:42] <Jordan_U> jagginess: Very few people have anything but fat32 flash drives, especially those coming from Windows.
[22:42] <dreadiscool> So I move the iSO to the desktop?
[22:42] <dreadiscool> cause the installer says that
[22:43] <dreadiscool> it says "Browse to your Ubuntu 12.04 something *DESKTOP* iso"
[22:43] <jagginess> Jordan_U, it's better to start from fresh.. best to format it imho either there's a fat32 there already or not..
[22:43] <jagginess> (quickly or not)
[22:43] <jagginess> dreadiscool, yes
[22:43] <Jordan_U> jagginess: Why? What good does reformatting do?
[22:43] <jagginess> dreadiscool, the usb-maker extracts the iso and copies the extraction to the usb device
[22:44] <jagginess> Jordan_U, ensures he uses fat32 -- true it can be optional.. he's already past that
[22:44] <Jordan_U> dreadiscool: The iso filename has the word "desktop" in it, that refers to its intention to be used on "desktop" (or laptop/nebook) computers as opposed to servers.
[22:44] <jagginess> lol
[22:44] <jagginess> i think he knows that. he was asking to "move" the iso to the desktop.
[22:44] <lukas> i need help: after installing ubuntu 12.04 the mouse and keyboard stops working, evet in recovery mode, but they are working fine in livecd. can anyone help?
[22:45] <lukas> I'm tighting with this instalation from yesterday
[22:45] <jagginess> lukas, keyboard works in ubuntu rescue?
[22:45] <lukas> no
[22:45] <lukas> it does not work after grub
[22:45] <jagginess> lukas, how as ubuntu 12.04 installed? was it upgraded?
[22:46] <lukas> no, it was a clean instalation
[22:46] <jagginess> lukas, you mean you can't use the up/down arrow keys on the grub menu?
[22:46] <dreadiscool> Once I install it to the flash drive, what do I do :O
[22:46] <lukas> no, in grub i can use keyboard
[22:46] <dreadiscool> wait, ill read the files first
[22:46] <Jordan_U> newmacair: Don't create the partitions for Ubuntu from OSX, the Ubuntu installer will handle that for you.
[22:47] <Senix> I have a question
[22:47] <Senix> If i have an i3 x64 am I able to run the amd64 ISO?
[22:47] <newmacair> Jordan_U: okay. i'm getting a little frusterated though. i've already failed to do this with one mac in the past
[22:47] <lukas> jagginess, the keyboard works in grub, but aftter that
[22:47] <dreadiscool> Wait, how do I use the usb stick now for the Ubuntu desktop
[22:47] <dreadiscool> its almos done installing
[22:47] <dreadiscool> i restart, and then what?
[22:47] <jagginess> dreadiscool, ya
[22:48] <dreadiscool> I'm assuming it won't magically stick to my c drive
[22:48] <Jordan_U> dreadiscool: Then you follow http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-ubuntu-desktop
[22:48] <dreadiscool> ok, thanks
[22:48] <Jordan_U> dreadiscool: You're welcome.
[22:48] <newmacair> Jordan_U: just made a boot drive using a dmg instead of an img
[22:48] <jagginess> dreadiscool, hit the boot-menu key (it may be f2 or f11 or f12 -- the bios bootup screen should say) -- ALSO I HOPE YOU RESEACHED YOUR BIOS IF IT CAN BOOT FROM USB
[22:48] <romici> hello all!! Newbie here! I'm having problems connecting Ubuntu 12.04 to WiFi. In the networking drop-down menu, the option to Enable Wirless is shaded or unselectable, which is below the Enable Networking option, which I can select. How can I turn the wifi on?
[22:48] <lukas> jagginess, do you have any ideas what can I do?
[22:49] <dreadiscool> It says installation done, process comlete
[22:49] <dreadiscool> can i close the window?
[22:49] <Random832> romici: do you have a wireless switch on your hardware?
[22:49] <Jordan_U> newmacair: OK. Are you able to boot from it?
[22:49] <Random832> romici: and, do you need to install any restricted drivers?
[22:49] <jagginess> lukas, try to boot into rescue. add " 1"  (without quotes) to the end of the kernel bootline and hit f10.. that'll bring you to console at the very least..
[22:49] <jagginess> lukas, from there..
[22:50] <newmacair> Jordan_U: I'm going to try now, i'll let you know
[22:50] <lukas> jagginess, but in rescue keyboard also don't work
[22:50] <newmacair> rEFIt didn't recognize the last one
[22:50] <jagginess> lukas, you can try to explore what the problem is concerning X's configuration-- because if you hve keyboard access in plaintext.. then it's something with X
[22:50] <romici> Random832: Yes, I have toggled on/off back and forth, because above VPN connections it says that the wireless is disabled by hardware switch. But I don't get it, since I turn it on and off and back on, and it doesn't recognize it!
[22:51] <lukas> jagginess, i can do anything only from livecd, keyboard doesn't work in rescue
[22:52] <romici> Random832: I think I don't since it was working fine 5 minutes ago.
[22:52] <jagginess> lukas, you sure, "plain text" does not work?
[22:52] <jagginess> luka, what error messages do you see?
[22:52] <lukas> jagginess, i am sure
[22:53] <lukas> jagginess, i tryed
[22:53] <jagginess> lukas, do you get the password prompt?
[22:53] <newmacair> Jordan_U: i'm back, it didn't work. I followed this tutorial, but it always says that it doesn't recognize the drive after it finishes.
[22:53] <lukas> jagginess, yes but i cant write the password
[22:54] <newmacair> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[22:54] <jagginess> lukas, that's really odd..
[22:54] <lukas> jagginess, i was trying the instalation several times
[22:54] <lukas> jagginess, i know this is odd...
[22:55] <jagginess> lukas, you should make a report about this.. btw you can try 1 more thing before.. -- you using usb keyboard?
[22:55] <lukas> jagginess, yes USB, but i dont have any other :P
[22:55] <IdleOne> lukas: what do you mean by you can't type the password?
[22:55] <jagginess> lukas, make sure legacy usb is supported in the bios.. maybe it could be that..
[22:56] <lukas> IdleOne: i mean, that tle keyboard is not respodning
[22:56] <jagginess> IdleOne, keyboard isnt operable in plaintext rescue
[22:56] <IdleOne> lukas: ok, so you are trying to log in via the command line and are unable to type in the username and password?
[22:56] <jagginess> lukas, laptop?
[22:56] <jagger> How can I get wine 1.5.6 on Ubuntu 12.04? The latest version i can get is 1.5.5. I did apt-get update.
[22:56] <jagginess> IdleOne, no.
[22:57] <lukas> jagginess, it is, and this keyboard was working in about 8 previous versions of ubuntu
[22:57] <jagginess> IdleOne, nononono.
[22:57] <IdleOne> hmm
[22:57] <IdleOne> ok.
[22:57] <jagginess> lukas, (i'm assuming not laptop).. but is it 64-bit hardware?
[22:57] <lukas> jagginess, i am using laptop now, the computer with the problem is my old one
[22:58] <jagger> can anyone get wine 1.5.6 on their ubuntu software center? 1.5.5 is the highest for me
[22:58] <lukas> jagginess, yes 63
[22:58] <lukas> jagginess, 64 :)
[22:58] <romici> Anybody else has any idea how to enable the wireless networking?? The option is unselectable, or shaded, not hiddedn, since I can see it...but I cannot select it. The hardware on/off wifi switch is on, and still the wifi is not detected.
[22:58] <jagginess> lukas, you tried the 64-bit installer?
[22:58] <jagginess> lukas, or i386 ?
[22:58] <jagginess> !wifi
[22:59] <lukas> IdleOne: after installing 12.04 keyboard and mouse are not working at all, but they are working in 12.04 livecd
[22:59] <lukas> jagginess, 64-bit installer
[22:59] <GeekAdmin> Windows allows you to turn a USB flash stick into fake RAM by using the "readyboost" feature.  Can you do something like this with ubuntu 12.04?
[22:59] <romici> thanx...let me look it up
[22:59] <jagginess> lukas, perhaps you can try to pass kernel option
[23:00] <lukas> jagginess, how?
[23:00] <IdleOne> lukas: that is odd. This same keyboard and mouse work in previous Ubuntu versions?
[23:00] <jagginess> !bootoptions
[23:00] <lukas> IdleOne, yes, about 8 previous versions was fine
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> GeekAdmin, you can use the flash as a swap.
[23:01] <jagginess> lukas, try the bottom of the page
[23:01] <jagginess> lukas, "Common Kernel Options"
[23:01] <jagginess> lukas, not asking to re-install anything..
[23:01] <lukas> jagginess, you meen in grub?
[23:01] <jagginess> lukas, try the "irqpoll" ..
[23:01] <GeekAdmin> wilee-nilee:  how do I set that up?  I already have swap configured for my hard drive.
[23:02] <jagginess> lukas, yes i mean grub (you add that option to the kernel bootline, along with " 1 " )
[23:02] <jagger> has anyone been able to get wine 1.5.6 on the ubuntu software center, or is it just me that can't?
[23:02] <jagginess> lukas, see if at least the plaintext responds to keyboard
[23:02] <newmacair> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick       << can anyone tell me why this wouldn't work? my mac is saying that it cant recognize the drive or something like that
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> GeekAdmin, what is it that you're looking for exactly
[23:02] <GeekAdmin> jagger: I'm pretty sure ubuntu repositories only have wine 1.4
[23:02] <jagger> I added the ppa, but it only has 1.5.5
[23:03] <jagger> it was released a week ago, shouldn
[23:03] <GeekAdmin> wilee-nilee:  I want to increase my RAM without actually increasing RAM..by using a USB flash strick or a external hard drive..so I can get faster speeds.
[23:03] <jagger> 't it be available by now?
[23:03] <newmacair> "The disk you inserted was not readable by this computer" is the error message I'm getting
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> GeekAdmin, you need to actually have more ram.
[23:03] <jagginess> newmacair, ya.. "choose ignore"
[23:03] <jagginess> newmacair, its not meant to be used in a mac.. only to boot from
[23:03] <lukas> jagginess, do you have gtalk? i am not used to irc...
[23:03] <jagger> GeekAdmin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=395435
[23:03] <jagger> will that work?
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> GeekAdmin, you could change the swappiness if you like
[23:03] <jagginess> newmacair, you can only try to make the usb booter with those cli tools
[23:04] <GeekAdmin> wilee-nilee:  okay. thanks. Appreciate you telling me straightup instead of letting me waste my time.
[23:04] <GeekAdmin> wilee-nilee:  does increasing SWAP speed up PC?
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> !swappiness | GeekAdmin
[23:04] <jagginess> newmacair, i hope you didnt' click 'initialize'.. because then you'll need to redo the dd command
[23:04] <newmacair> jagginess: it still isn't recognized on startup, though
[23:04] <dsnyders> I want to make music.  Is there any recommended music composing software for linux?
[23:04] <lukas> jagginess, in grub i can use the keyboard, i can type, edit options etc
[23:04] <HelloWorld321> jagginess: would that help with my video card maybe?  irqpoll?
[23:04] <jagger> readyboost basically increase swap for windows
[23:04] <jagger> it doesn't actually increase ram itself
[23:04] <newmacair> i'l try fully redoing it, but it hasn't worked in the past
[23:04] <jagginess> newmacair, well your mac has to support usb boot.. you have to consult apple's documentation for that..
[23:05] <zykotick9> GeekAdmin: it's very doubtful that adding virtual memory (swap) will speed up your system at all
[23:05] <jagginess> newmacair, then try to use a cd..
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> GeekAdmin, depends on the limitations you have overall, but barely noticeable it is more likely to be running slower if the swap is used live.
[23:05] <jagginess> newmacair, pm?
[23:05] <jagginess> i dont think anyone else is using mac here? (except me of course)
[23:05] <jagginess> (and newmacair)
[23:05] <GeekAdmin> wilee-nilee:  THANKS. you saved me a lot of time
[23:05] <jagginess> :p
[23:05] <Jordan_U> !PM | jagginess newmacair
[23:06] <jagginess> Jordan_U, mac people need refit (just fyi)
[23:06] <jakupl> Hello :) I Need to make sed delete everything up to and including the 6th "|" in every line. Is this possible?
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> GeekAdmin, cool look up swappiness on the web though you can change when the swap is actually used somewhat.
[23:06] <Jordan_U> jagginess: I'm very familiar with booting on intel macs.
[23:06] <jagginess> Jordan_U, i dont need that ubottu message thanks.
[23:06] <jagginess> lol
[23:07] <Jordan_U> jagginess: It's better to keep support discussion in-channel so that others can contribute and ensure that good advice is being given.
[23:07] <f3e> Good evening.
[23:08] <f3e> What's the default encryption used on user passwords?
[23:08] <f3e> In 12.04
[23:08] <Jordan_U> newmacair: Since that failed let's try using grub-efi. Tell me when you're ready with a computer running Ubuntu to make the bootable USB drive from.
[23:09] <dsnyders> !music
[23:10] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is there any good music composing software for linux?
[23:11] <Chuck_Norris> dsnyders: http://ardour.org/
[23:12] <mz|`> dsnyders: install an audio/video specific dsitribution
[23:12] <mz|`> like openartist/ubuntu studio/etc
[23:12] <mz|`> which will have all needed components
[23:13] <Chuck_Norris> yes, and a low latency kernel
[23:13] <mz|`> you mean rt ?
[23:13] <dsnyders> mz|`, That's going a little overboard.
[23:13] <Chuck_Norris> yes
[23:14] <graft> hi, according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/flashplugin-installer, my version should be 11.2.202.236ubuntu0.12.04.1, but apt-cache policy (from ubuntu.wikimedia.org) only shows 11.2.202.233ubuntu2
[23:14] <graft> it's been this way for days - what gives?
[23:14] <Jordan_U> dsnyders: Most "professional" audio software uses Jack, which at least in the past has been difficult to setup. If you start with Ubuntu Studio you get Jack (and other nice things) setup by default.
[23:15] <Jordan_U> graft: That mirror may be out of date. Try a different one.
[23:15] <moni> i love cj
[23:15] <graft> Jordan_U: why would a mirror be out of date, and how can i know?
[23:16] <moni> hay
[23:18] <Jordan_U> graft: Somebody (or some automated process somebody set up) needs to grab new packages from the main servers as they are added. If that process / person breaks or is slow then the mirror might not be up to date. As far as I know, the only way you test that is by doing exactly what you've done (check what should be the latest available version of a package, vs what apt-cache policy shows).
[23:18] <moni> mvnfjnnnjd
[23:18] <Jordan_U> graft: Also, I assume you've already done this but, "sudo apt-get update".
[23:19] <SonhadorPR> hello all!! still having problems connecting my laptop to wifi, after it had been working in the last 15 mins..now the Enable Wireless option in the networking drop-down menu is gray or shaded, or unselectable. How can I connect the wifi again? Right now, I'm connected through Eth direct to the router.
[23:19] <Jordan_U> moni: Do you have any Ubuntu support question?
[23:19] <dreadiscool> Can someone please help me, whenever I try booting ubuntu 12.04 from my usb stick, it says that im missing some kernel thing called "pae"
[23:19] <graft> Jordan_U: yeah, multiple times :) hmm, i assumed ubuntu pushed to mirrors, not vice-versa. i guess i'll pick a new one
[23:19] <trism> graft: do you have -updates/-security enabled?
[23:20] <moni> wat r u doing
[23:20] <graft> trism: yes
[23:20] <Jordan_U> dreadiscool: Could you write down, or post a picture (taken with a camera) of the exact error message?
[23:21] <dsnyders> Chuck_Norris, Jordan_U,   I'm not looking for professional grade music studio software.  I'm just looking for something I can hack around on; a software synthesizer.
[23:21] <Jordan_U> !ot | moni
[23:21] <dreadiscool> It says Failed to find kernel. You need one of the following:
[23:21] <dreadiscool> pae
[23:21] <trism> graft: yeah probably try a different mirror, the mirror list has it as 'last update unknown'
[23:22] <Jordan_U> dreadiscool: I think an actual picture of the error message would still be helpful if it's not too much trouble.
[23:22] <dreadiscool> ok
[23:23] <graft> trism: yeah, using the US main makes it better- where do you see that mirror list update unknown dealy?
[23:23] <Jordan_U> dreadiscool: You can upload the image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add
[23:23] <trism> graft: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[23:23] <f3e> What's the default encryption used on user passwords? In 12.04.
[23:25] <SonhadorPR> hello all!! Newbie here! I'm having problems connecting my laptop to my home's wife. At the moment, the Enable Wireless option on the networking drop-down menu is uunselected, and I cannot select it. It doesn't let me turn on the wirless, How can I fix?
[23:25] <Jordan_U> f3e: SHA-512
[23:25] <graft> trism: neat thanks
[23:25] <mz|`> SonhadorPR: you disabled it by turn off with a physical button, or you fo not have the driver
[23:25] <f3e> Jordan_U, Thanks.
[23:25] <SonhadorPR> *wifi
[23:25] <Jordan_U> f3e: You're welcome
[23:26] <mz|`> turning* do*
[23:27] <Chuck_Norris> [20:18] <moni> mvnfjnnnjd
[23:27] <SonhadorPR> I have a physical switch, I turn it off/on, and it doesn't respond. My  WiFi was working fine 15-20 mins ago...don't understand. So you are saying I have to install  restricted drivers??
[23:28] <mz|`> SonhadorPR: if it has already worked, no. it is another issue.
[23:29] <OerHeks> f3e,  Jordan_U > NBS DES algorithm >> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/passwd.1.html
[23:30] <Jordan_U> OerHeks: f3e: Read carefully "The legacy UNIX System encryption method is based on the NBS DES algorithm. More recent methods are now recommended (see ENCRYPT_METHOD).
[23:31] <OerHeks> oh my bad
[23:31] <SonhadorPR> mz|: suggestions?
[23:31] <Jordan_U> OerHeks: f3e: If you look in /etc/shadow at the password field for your user you will see something starting with $6$, which means SHA-512 (see man crypt).
[23:32] <mz|`> be sure to activate the hardware witch to off, then reboot.
[23:32] <mz|`> to on*
[23:32] <mz|`> hem.
[23:32] <mz|`> switch*
[23:32]  * mz|` tired
[23:33] <graft> i want a hardware witch... maybe my computer would resume from suspend then
[23:33] <Sparky712> hey again, i know the problem now. the error I get is 'fatal error: no wubildr' >.<
[23:34] <Sparky712> how can I fix that? >.<
[23:37] <f3e> Jordan_U, Yeah it does. SHA-512 is more than enough for a regular personal computer right?
[23:37] <Jordan_U> f3e: Correct.
[23:37] <f3e> Jordan_U, Tanks a lot for the answers! :)
[23:37] <Jordan_U> f3e: You're welcome.
[23:38] <bor0> has anyone tried to build qutecom-2.2.1 on Ubuntu?  I am having problems building it, I installed all dependencies but it throws an error on FindUUID (uuid from e2fsprogs) which I already have installed
[23:39] <Sparky712> sorry bout my impatience, but... thats it, im going to go uninstall, and try reinstalling ubuntu again. hopefully no errors this time.
[23:45] <trism> bor0: looking at the build-deps, I think you may actually want uuid-dev (if this is 11.10-12.04 it's in the repos so you don't need to build it)
[23:45] <bor0> trism,  thanks! that actually solved the problem
[23:46] <augustl> are there any ways to get audio from my ubuntu laptop streamed to windows 7?
[23:50] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[23:54] <dreadiscool> can someone please tell me how to boot the ubuntu os from my flash drive?
[23:54] <dreadiscool> i mounted it and all
[23:54] <dreadiscool> but i keep getting this exact error message
[23:54] <dreadiscool> This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU:
[23:54] <dreadiscool> pae
[23:55] <dreadiscool> Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
[23:55] <dreadiscool> that's all ._.
[23:55] <TheLordOfTime> dreadiscool:  are you on a 32bit or 64bit system?
[23:56] <dreadiscool> 32
[23:56] <TheLordOfTime> and is the ubuntu you installed onto the usb a 32bit os or a 64bit?
[23:56] <jagginess> dreadiscool, then it should be i386 or 32bit
[23:56] <TheLordOfTime> ^
[23:56] <dreadiscool> the 32bit
[23:56] <TheLordOfTime> make sure of that
[23:56] <dreadiscool> i specifically remember getting the 32bit
[23:56] <TheLordOfTime> also, if its a PAE kernel (it might be)
[23:56] <TheLordOfTime> make sure to use the non-PAE one instead
[23:56] <TheLordOfTime> (your CPU might not support PAE)
[23:57] <aFeijo> hi guys, I'm trying to install Ubuntu in this Asus Netbook eeepc 1008p, but it does not boot it thru my USB, I already accessed the BIOS and set the Removable Drive to be the first one, yet it try to load the OEM windows 7 starter :(
[23:57] <dreadiscool> how do u use the non PAE one
[23:57] <dreadiscool> do i have to redownload...
[23:57] <dreadiscool> :(
[23:57] <jagginess> aFeijo, i had a problem with a netbook.
[23:57] <jagginess> aFeijo, take out the usb. and fully power it off.. fully
[23:57] <aFeijo> jagginess, this damn thing is taking half hour to power up that lame win7
[23:58] <oceane> salut les gens
[23:58] <aFeijo> jagginess, it was fully powered off, stoped working 1 month ago, even the battery was down, I had to plug it
[23:58] <jagginess> aFeijo, (optional: take out the battery and re-insert it, not joking)-- plug in usb. then power on.. try to hit the 'boot' menu key.. it may be f2, f10, f11..etc etc.. (keep tapping that boot menu key fast-- and make sure of course this key isnt deactivated in the bios)
[23:59] <aFeijo> jagginess, ok I'll try it
[23:59] <jagginess> aFeijo, only plug in usb after it is on poweroff