| apachelogger | I told you to fix your muon, did I not? :P | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| JontheEchidna | it uses check-language-support now | 00:00 |
| JontheEchidna | but we still need to figure out what to do to transition from language-pack-* to whatever else the various packages that don't have l10n in kde-l10n | 00:01 |
| JontheEchidna | parsing error | 00:02 |
| JontheEchidna | retrying :P | 00:02 |
| apachelogger | lol | 00:02 |
| JontheEchidna | we have to figure out what to do to move from the current language-pack-* system to a system that uses kde-l10n, along with assorted -l10n packages for seeded apps that don't have l10n in kde-l10n | 00:03 |
| JontheEchidna | we'll have to update this probably: /usr/share/language-selector/data/pkg_depends | 00:04 |
| * apachelogger writes mail | 00:04 | |
| JontheEchidna | check-language-support seems a bit broken in quantal: http://paste.kde.org/501644/ | 00:05 |
| shadeslayer | whoot | 00:09 |
| shadeslayer | new council | 00:09 |
| yofel | \o/ | 00:12 |
| JontheEchidna | ok, so as long as we add templates to /usr/share/language-selector/data/pkg_depends (in language-selector-common) for apps not using kde-l10n-* | 00:15 |
| JontheEchidna | and add those same packages to the seed for languages we want on the iso | 00:15 |
| apachelogger | intartubes y u so slo! | 00:15 |
| JontheEchidna | we should be good | 00:15 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: auto-injection I say | 00:16 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Are you going to make the adjustments in LP for the election results? | 00:47 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: next week? membership only runs out on thursday | 00:51 |
| apachelogger | unless JontheEchidna throws in a +1 to end the extra time anyway | 00:52 |
| ScottK | That's only because we artificially exteneded it. | 00:53 |
| apachelogger | I know, we still extended it by vote, so we would have to end the extent by vote IMO | 00:55 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think it should matter unless we need to have a vote between now and thursday | 01:10 |
| ScottK | OK. | 01:12 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: You can still extend the terms of the people that were re-elected now and add the new person. | 01:13 |
| apachelogger | then people don't time out at the same time :P | 01:13 |
| apachelogger | motion to de-extend extended terms | 01:14 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna, ScottK: gimme a +1 each and we are good :P | 01:14 |
| === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Status: http://goo.gl/ZGGJP | Packaging TODO (4.8.90): http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | ||
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: +1 | 01:14 |
| ScottK | +1 | 01:15 |
| shadeslayer | does LXDE use metacity as well? | 01:15 |
| apachelogger | +1 | 01:16 |
| apachelogger | I do not always mitm, but when I do I use ettercap | 01:17 |
| apachelogger | btw | 01:18 |
| apachelogger | ScottK, JontheEchidna: think we should align the expiration date back to 05-20? | 01:18 |
| apachelogger | that'd of course cut the terms 1 month short, but ... | 01:18 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: No. I think we should make it as of today. | 01:18 |
| ScottK | That way in two years we don't get nailed by not enough time after UDS again. | 01:18 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 01:19 |
| apachelogger | good point | 01:19 |
| ScottK | But I most particularly want you and JontheEchidna to decide since you aren't directly affected. | 01:20 |
| * apachelogger is so lazy he doesn't even do traffic shaping but sends packets on a round trip over wifi \\o/ | 01:20 | |
| apachelogger | doesn't help launchpad timing out on me of course | 01:21 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: speak up good sir | 01:21 |
| JontheEchidna | sorry, was afk | 01:31 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: -1 on realign | 01:31 |
| ScottK | What do you mean? | 01:33 |
| JontheEchidna | do not put expiration back to 5-20, keep it at 6-16 | 01:33 |
| apachelogger | 6-17 | 01:34 |
| JontheEchidna | w/e :P | 01:34 |
| * apachelogger hands JontheEchidna a UTC watch :P | 01:34 | |
| JontheEchidna | you people and your fancy timezones | 01:35 |
| apachelogger | well, UTC is actually not that fancy, it doesn't even have a summer version | 01:35 |
| apachelogger | totally lame IMO | 01:35 |
| JontheEchidna | when I was a youngin' we didn't have timezones, and we liked it! | 01:35 |
| JontheEchidna | it didn't matter that the sun was high in the sky, we went to sleep because it was 4:00 AM! | 01:36 |
| JontheEchidna | ok, I'll stop :P | 01:36 |
| * apachelogger throws keyboard | 01:37 | |
| apachelogger | now, what was it that I did before mitming -.- | 01:41 |
| apachelogger | so ... | 01:45 |
| apachelogger | liblastfm1 patchery seems to be coming to an end | 01:45 |
| apachelogger | amarok working and clementine working = yay | 01:45 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 1013626 is a mystery | 01:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1013626 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "systemsettings crashed with ImportError in /usr/share/kde4/apps/language-selector/language-selector.py: No module named LanguageSelector.qt.QtLanguageSelector" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013626 | 01:59 |
| micahg | congrats to jussi Riddell and ScottK | 04:02 |
| ScottK | micahg: Thanks. | 04:02 |
| === m4v is now known as k4v | ||
| bambee | hi, proposal for the current kde-workspace http://paste.kde.org/501764/ (it fixes a boring bug) | 08:08 |
| debfx | bambee: I take it you have verified the fix? | 08:36 |
| bambee | debfx: It has been pushed on upstream and I tested it on my laptop, it works | 08:41 |
| debfx | bambee: ok, uploaded. thanks! | 08:49 |
| bambee | yw ;) | 08:49 |
| === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin | ||
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 10:44 |
| jussi | Afternoon all. Thanks micahg :) (and everyone else over the interwebs) | 11:16 |
| jussi | sigh :/ | 15:00 |
| jussi | I wonder why they took away the configurability of the power/lock screen plasmoid, locking it to only suspend? | 15:00 |
| jussi | oh never mind, I just didnt find the new one with the search :) | 15:02 |
| debfx | there are two now? | 15:04 |
| jussi | debfx: seems that way | 15:13 |
| jussi | debfx: lock/logout and power button | 15:13 |
| jussi | If someone feels like improving them, having choosable Icons like lancelot has would be nice... (greyscale Icons please :D ) | 15:14 |
| === sreich2 is now known as sreich | ||
| apachelogger | jussi: could you please ensure that you are op on whatever channels the council has op + remove neversfelde | 15:39 |
| jussi | apachelogger: sure | 15:41 |
| * shadeslayer needs testers for digikam | 17:07 | |
| shadeslayer | anyone on quantal? | 17:07 |
| yofel | me | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental < Could you test? | 17:12 |
| yofel | new calligra tar btw. | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | sawn | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | I'll get to that after digikam | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | one thing at a time :D | 17:14 |
| yofel | sure, I'm more interested in digikam anyway :P | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | unfourtunately ... my ISP can't provide me more bandwidth >.> | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | Apparently my area isn't serviced by something called 'Metro Ethernet' | 17:15 |
| * yofel pulls kile as well | 17:16 | |
| shadeslayer | heh, totally forgot about that | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | someone needs to sponsor that | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell confirmed that it worked a long time ago | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: did the packageset expand to include these packages as well? | 17:18 |
| shadeslayer | kile/calligra/digikam etc | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | EHUNGRY | 17:19 |
| yofel | calligra is already in, I added digikam to supported but have no idea how the packageset is updated and kile isn't in there - currently has motu as maintainer | 17:19 |
| yofel | do we want to maintain kile? | 17:20 |
| yofel | (probably yes, but I don't want to just go ahead and add it) | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | well .. it's more of a "We keep a eye on packages like kile more closely than some other people and it would be a good idea to add it to the packageset so we can update/merge it more quickly" | 17:20 |
| yofel | +1 | 17:21 |
| yofel | esp. as kile isn't syncable | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | If I had upload rights for kile, I would have uploaded it a long time ago, but since I didn't, I forgot about it | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | kile isn't syncable? | 17:22 |
| yofel | nope, remember the bug which needed pkgbinarymangler turned off? | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | ahhh yeah | 17:22 |
| yofel | apachelogger: as you're ~there~, do you know how the packageset is updated? Automatically or by bothering cj/watson | 17:25 |
| apachelogger | yofel: how would that be automatic I wonder | 17:28 |
| yofel | dunno | 17:28 |
| shadeslayer | sigh, calligra, Y U NO USE xz | 17:29 |
| apachelogger | exactly :P | 17:29 |
| yofel | ok, thanks ^^ | 17:29 |
| jussi | anyone about on precise with the kubuntu ppa active? | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: digikam works? | 17:29 |
| yofel | jussi: which one? | 17:29 |
| jussi | I just crashed plasma :D | 17:29 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: the parts I use yes, still testing though | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 17:30 |
| jussi | yofel: beta | 17:30 |
| jussi | yofel: you could try otherwise also, right click the battery icon in the tray (need a laptop), then battery monitor settings, show remaining time for the battery, click apply - crash. | 17:32 |
| yofel | oh that | 17:32 |
| yofel | kde bug 302047 | 17:32 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 302047 in general "Crash occured when configured battery plasmoid" [Crash,Unconfirmed: ] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302047 | 17:32 |
| jussi | oh yay, Im not the first one | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | the trick is to remove your battery so the plasmoid does not show up | 17:33 |
| apachelogger | so apparently the launchpad is kaput | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | doesn't accept no dputs | 17:34 |
| apachelogger | yofel: you wanted to make obs? :P | 17:34 |
| yofel | worked for me a few hours ago - just the publishing took 4h | 17:35 |
| apachelogger | 4h | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | good lawd | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | I will starve | 17:37 |
| apachelogger | noes! | 17:37 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: works fine | 17:39 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 17:39 |
| * apachelogger uploads shadeslayer so he can go to pending state for 4 hours | 17:39 | |
| yofel | lol | 17:39 |
| shadeslayer | >.> | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | oh | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | actually | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I have the perfect bug for you to fix | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | in pgst? | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | see #kde-multimedia for my ramblings | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | you get to draw a diagram if you want | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | diagrams always help with threads | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | ugh | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | threads | 17:40 |
| bambee | kwin3_oxygen_appmenu.so has been removed ? | 17:41 |
| bambee | I mean, apparently it's no longer installed by kwin | 17:42 |
| shadeslayer | !find kwin3_oxygen_appmenu.so | 17:42 |
| ubottu | Package/file kwin3_oxygen_appmenu.so does not exist in precise | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | it never was | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | that is a forkd source from kde-apps | 17:43 |
| bambee | it's still installed here and ksmshell4 kwindecoration crashes... | 17:43 |
| shadeslayer | bambee: you probably compiled it at some point in the past | 17:43 |
| shadeslayer | and then did a sudo make install | 17:43 |
| bambee | huh ? I NEVER install upstream package in /usr :) | 17:43 |
| bambee | so... I don't think so | 17:43 |
| shadeslayer | bambee: try a dpkg -S kwin3_oxygen_appmenu.so | 17:43 |
| bambee | (except phonon...) | 17:44 |
| bambee | good idea | 17:44 |
| bambee | kwin-style-oxygen-appmenu | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | W: digikam source: ancient-standards-version 3.8.4 (current is 3.9.3) \o/ | 17:44 |
| yofel | bambee: that's not even in the archive | 17:45 |
| bambee | :O | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | lololol :P | 17:45 |
| jussi | OOOOOOO+++++++++++++++++++CQ | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | bambee: now try apt-cache policy kwin-style-oxygen-appmenu | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: dafuq is that | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | brainfsck? | 17:46 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: it was Elodi - enjoying herself.... | 17:46 |
| yofel | cjwatson: can you refresh our packageset? I added a few things from universe to our supported seed that we maintain and mostly just got put in universe because of build-depends | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 17:46 |
| bambee | 4.7.2-0ubuntu1 and only found in /var/lib/dpkg/status ---> WTF ? | 17:46 |
| yofel | maybe we added it and removed it before release | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: elodi already on IRC ... expect great things :P | 17:47 |
| bambee | probably.. | 17:47 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: she will be brilliant - how was that sample of brainfuck? :D | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | anyone seen the latest talk by linus? I like him even more after that talk | 17:48 |
| yofel | link? | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: Who knows, she's probably testing out some new version of brainfuck | 17:48 |
| jussi | lol | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShbP3OpASA | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | I've only watched 40 minutes of it though | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: finish people are lucky in terms of getting visits from Linus :P | 17:49 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: given I live pretty close to him now, I should drop round his house sometime :P | 17:50 |
| yofel | yay, I have no hibernate option anymore \o/ | 17:50 |
| jussi | (he does live in helsinki still?) | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | Don't think so ... he moved to the US iirc | 17:50 |
| jussi | yofel: yeah :/ | 17:50 |
| yofel | jussi: you can still turn it on if you want... | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | I guess upstream decided we had too many options | 17:51 |
| jussi | yofel: I dont use it thankfully - I use the suspend to RAM a whole lot | 17:51 |
| yofel | same here | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: can you add digikam to the packageset? | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | or tell me how to request | 17:52 |
| * yofel just asked for that | 17:53 | |
| shadeslayer | ah | 17:53 |
| yofel | unless there's some proper procedure other than pinging people on irc | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | where didja ask? | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | or rather, whom did you ask? | 17:53 |
| yofel | here? -7min | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | ahh | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | I thought some other channel as well | 17:53 |
| apachelogger | yofel: yeah, reporting a bug is the proper way | 17:54 |
| * debfx waits for someone to add /.*/ to supported ;) | 17:54 | |
| apachelogger | roughly translates to not getting it done | 17:54 |
| yofel | aah | 17:55 |
| shadeslayer | yay .. we haven't sync'd digikam packaging | 17:56 |
| yofel | debfx: well, we could update the excludes IMO, not sure what I'm supposed to do with permissions for dkms, lame or oss-compat... | 17:56 |
| debfx | yofel: I don't think you can exclude packages | 17:58 |
| shadeslayer | do you guys know anyone with whom I could talk to about the Mac ISO images? | 17:58 |
| yofel | I probably would start with skaet | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | Foundations team right? | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 17:59 |
| === apachelogger is now known as lunchlogger | ||
| yofel | not sure what exactly s/he is responsible for though | 17:59 |
| jussi | skaet is the release manager no? | 17:59 |
| jussi | !gpgerr | 18:00 |
| ubottu | Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> » | 18:00 |
| lunchlogger | jussi: floodbot is very rude, he doesn't wanna talk to me | 18:03 |
| lunchlogger | <FloodBot1> lunchlogger, you've changed your nickname, so I'll have to ask again: What is the letter of the alphabet immediately after A? | 18:03 |
| lunchlogger | <lunchlogger> FloodBot1: 66 | 18:03 |
| * lunchlogger was expecting a discussion about whether 0x42 wouldn't be nicer | 18:04 | |
| jussi | lol | 18:04 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 18:04 |
| yofel | lol | 18:04 |
| lunchlogger | oh yah, for everyone who does not get it ... A is 65 in decimal ascii :P | 18:04 |
| jussi | bah, after that battery crash I have a huge space in my tray :/ | 18:05 |
| lunchlogger | and with that I am off to find something to eat | 18:05 |
| shadeslayer | lunchlogger: you're too l33t for FloodBot1 | 18:05 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: can I get a ec2 instance ? | 18:40 |
| shadeslayer | My VPS keeps falling short of memory :( | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | ok .. one small issue, there seems to be a libkvkontakte-data.install in our packaging, what do I do about it? | 19:11 |
| shadeslayer | it only seems to be installing translations : usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/libkvkontakte.mo | 19:12 |
| shadeslayer | since we're now in universe, do I simply drop that ? | 19:13 |
| shadeslayer | ( seeing how we're going to use proper lang packs and not rosetta ) | 19:14 |
| shadeslayer | s/proper/upstream/ | 19:14 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer meant: "( seeing how we're going to use upstream lang packs and not rosetta )" | 19:14 |
| yofel | what's responsible for the brightness notification on the screen? plasma? | 19:14 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: if you drop that - you won't have translations at all I think | 19:14 |
| * yofel isn't a l10n expert though | 19:14 | |
| shadeslayer | well this is all confusing then, shouldn't we have separate lang packages for each language then? | 19:15 |
| shadeslayer | also, that -data package doesn't exist anywhere in the control file | 19:15 |
| shadeslayer | the control file needs fix0ring | 19:16 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: fwiw I think in precise it didn't matter if we put the files in a install file or not | 19:18 |
| shadeslayer | pkg-kde-tools automgically figured out necessary l10n bits | 19:19 |
| shadeslayer | lunchlogger: ^ Advice on how to proceed? | 19:30 |
| === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin | ||
| lunchlogger | what? | 19:44 |
| === lunchlogger is now known as apachelogger | ||
| apachelogger | <FloodBot1> apachelogger, you've changed your nickname, so I'll have to ask again: Type the number 6 in letters, not in digits | 19:46 |
| apachelogger | <apachelogger> FloodBot1: sei | 19:46 |
| apachelogger | jussi: why is it talking to me anyway? | 19:46 |
| apachelogger | I am only going to BS that bot anyway | 19:46 |
| apachelogger | I mean, look at its name | 19:46 |
| jussi | apachelogger: I dunno did you do something silly? | 19:49 |
| apachelogger | jussi: well, it aint called SillyBot1 now is it :P | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | actually that would be a good name | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | listens for obvoiusly silly words and then prints random quotes that use them | 19:50 |
| jussi | apachelogger: go talk to ljl ;) | 19:53 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: we have libkvkontakte-data.install that installs translations | 19:59 |
| shadeslayer | it's not there in the control files however, should I enable it? | 20:00 |
| shadeslayer | or is pkg-kde-tools going to take over translation stripping magic in universe? | 20:00 |
| yofel | changelog isn't clear there - maybe I dropped it when I re-enabled libkvkontakte | 20:01 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: yeah, I think so too | 20:01 |
| * shadeslayer enables it for now | 20:04 | |
| shadeslayer | Apparently I just won 1,000,000GBP | 20:04 |
| shadeslayer | No need to work for life \o/ | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: we do not strip | 20:08 |
| apachelogger | if the translations are not packaged they are not there | 20:08 |
| === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Status: http://goo.gl/ZGGJP | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | ||
| shadeslayer | yofel: I've also uploaded calligra here : https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+packages | 20:49 |
| yofel | *blink* 113M tar o.O | 20:51 |
| shadeslayer | heh :P | 20:51 |
| shadeslayer | I'll request them to make xz tars | 20:52 |
| * shadeslayer wonders how much space that'll save | 20:54 | |
| * yofel tries | 20:55 | |
| shadeslayer | already on it ;) | 20:55 |
| shadeslayer | 90M calligra_2.4.91a.orig.tar.xz | 20:57 |
| shadeslayer | shaved off 23 MB's .... not bad at all | 20:57 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: did you drop the marble patch? If yes please say so in the changelog | 20:58 |
| shadeslayer | uhh ... yeah ... sorry about that | 20:58 |
| shadeslayer | I'll fix it in the calligra bzr branch | 20:58 |
| CIA-45 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/calligra] Philip Muškovac * 21 * debian/patches/kubuntu_01_arm_fixes.diff add missing patch from last upload | 20:59 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: looks fine otherwise, so if it builds ship it | 21:02 |
| shadeslayer | cool | 21:03 |
| shadeslayer | needs testing first though | 21:03 |
| shadeslayer | Pushed calligra packaging to bzr though | 21:04 |
| * shadeslayer is off to sleep | 21:06 | |
| yofel | zZzZzzzz.... building kde-workspace is another good thing to make you sleepy -.- | 21:06 |
| cjwatson | yofel: sure, done | 21:38 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: need one? | 21:39 |
| yofel | cjwatson: thanks a lot :) | 21:41 |
| === ybit2 is now known as ybit | ||
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