[00:00] I told you to fix your muon, did I not? :P [00:00] it uses check-language-support now [00:01] but we still need to figure out what to do to transition from language-pack-* to whatever else the various packages that don't have l10n in kde-l10n [00:02] parsing error [00:02] retrying :P [00:02] lol [00:03] we have to figure out what to do to move from the current language-pack-* system to a system that uses kde-l10n, along with assorted -l10n packages for seeded apps that don't have l10n in kde-l10n [00:04] we'll have to update this probably: /usr/share/language-selector/data/pkg_depends [00:04] * apachelogger writes mail [00:05] check-language-support seems a bit broken in quantal: http://paste.kde.org/501644/ [00:09] whoot [00:09] new council [00:12] \o/ [00:15] ok, so as long as we add templates to /usr/share/language-selector/data/pkg_depends (in language-selector-common) for apps not using kde-l10n-* [00:15] and add those same packages to the seed for languages we want on the iso [00:15] intartubes y u so slo! [00:15] we should be good [00:16] JontheEchidna: auto-injection I say [00:47] apachelogger: Are you going to make the adjustments in LP for the election results? [00:51] ScottK: next week? membership only runs out on thursday [00:52] unless JontheEchidna throws in a +1 to end the extra time anyway [00:53] That's only because we artificially exteneded it. [00:55] I know, we still extended it by vote, so we would have to end the extent by vote IMO [01:10] I don't think it should matter unless we need to have a vote between now and thursday [01:12] OK. [01:13] apachelogger: You can still extend the terms of the people that were re-elected now and add the new person. [01:13] then people don't time out at the same time :P [01:14] motion to de-extend extended terms [01:14] JontheEchidna, ScottK: gimme a +1 each and we are good :P === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Status: http://goo.gl/ZGGJP | Packaging TODO (4.8.90): http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas [01:14] apachelogger: +1 [01:15] +1 [01:15] does LXDE use metacity as well? [01:16] +1 [01:17] I do not always mitm, but when I do I use ettercap [01:18] btw [01:18] ScottK, JontheEchidna: think we should align the expiration date back to 05-20? [01:18] that'd of course cut the terms 1 month short, but ... [01:18] apachelogger: No. I think we should make it as of today. [01:18] That way in two years we don't get nailed by not enough time after UDS again. [01:19] ^^ [01:19] good point [01:20] But I most particularly want you and JontheEchidna to decide since you aren't directly affected. [01:20] * apachelogger is so lazy he doesn't even do traffic shaping but sends packets on a round trip over wifi \\o/ [01:21] doesn't help launchpad timing out on me of course [01:21] JontheEchidna: speak up good sir [01:31] sorry, was afk [01:31] apachelogger: -1 on realign [01:33] What do you mean? [01:33] do not put expiration back to 5-20, keep it at 6-16 [01:34] 6-17 [01:34] w/e :P [01:34] * apachelogger hands JontheEchidna a UTC watch :P [01:35] you people and your fancy timezones [01:35] well, UTC is actually not that fancy, it doesn't even have a summer version [01:35] totally lame IMO [01:35] when I was a youngin' we didn't have timezones, and we liked it! [01:36] it didn't matter that the sun was high in the sky, we went to sleep because it was 4:00 AM! [01:36] ok, I'll stop :P [01:37] * apachelogger throws keyboard [01:41] now, what was it that I did before mitming -.- [01:45] so ... [01:45] liblastfm1 patchery seems to be coming to an end [01:45] amarok working and clementine working = yay [01:59] bug 1013626 is a mystery [01:59] Launchpad bug 1013626 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "systemsettings crashed with ImportError in /usr/share/kde4/apps/language-selector/language-selector.py: No module named LanguageSelector.qt.QtLanguageSelector" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013626 [04:02] congrats to jussi Riddell and ScottK [04:02] micahg: Thanks. === m4v is now known as k4v [08:08] hi, proposal for the current kde-workspace http://paste.kde.org/501764/ (it fixes a boring bug) [08:36] bambee: I take it you have verified the fix? [08:41] debfx: It has been pushed on upstream and I tested it on my laptop, it works [08:49] bambee: ok, uploaded. thanks! [08:49] yw ;) === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [10:44] Hiyas all [11:16] Afternoon all. Thanks micahg :) (and everyone else over the interwebs) [15:00] sigh :/ [15:00] I wonder why they took away the configurability of the power/lock screen plasmoid, locking it to only suspend? [15:02] oh never mind, I just didnt find the new one with the search :) [15:04] there are two now? [15:13] debfx: seems that way [15:13] debfx: lock/logout and power button [15:14] If someone feels like improving them, having choosable Icons like lancelot has would be nice... (greyscale Icons please :D ) === sreich2 is now known as sreich [15:39] jussi: could you please ensure that you are op on whatever channels the council has op + remove neversfelde [15:41] apachelogger: sure [17:07] * shadeslayer needs testers for digikam [17:07] anyone on quantal? [17:11] me [17:12] yofel: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental < Could you test? [17:13] new calligra tar btw. [17:14] yeah [17:14] sawn [17:14] I'll get to that after digikam [17:14] one thing at a time :D [17:14] sure, I'm more interested in digikam anyway :P [17:14] :) [17:15] unfourtunately ... my ISP can't provide me more bandwidth >.> [17:15] Apparently my area isn't serviced by something called 'Metro Ethernet' [17:16] * yofel pulls kile as well [17:17] heh, totally forgot about that [17:17] someone needs to sponsor that [17:17] Riddell confirmed that it worked a long time ago [17:18] yofel: did the packageset expand to include these packages as well? [17:18] kile/calligra/digikam etc [17:19] EHUNGRY [17:19] calligra is already in, I added digikam to supported but have no idea how the packageset is updated and kile isn't in there - currently has motu as maintainer [17:20] do we want to maintain kile? [17:20] (probably yes, but I don't want to just go ahead and add it) [17:20] well .. it's more of a "We keep a eye on packages like kile more closely than some other people and it would be a good idea to add it to the packageset so we can update/merge it more quickly" [17:21] +1 [17:21] esp. as kile isn't syncable [17:22] If I had upload rights for kile, I would have uploaded it a long time ago, but since I didn't, I forgot about it [17:22] kile isn't syncable? [17:22] nope, remember the bug which needed pkgbinarymangler turned off? [17:22] ahhh yeah [17:25] apachelogger: as you're ~there~, do you know how the packageset is updated? Automatically or by bothering cj/watson [17:28] yofel: how would that be automatic I wonder [17:28] dunno [17:29] sigh, calligra, Y U NO USE xz [17:29] exactly :P [17:29] ok, thanks ^^ [17:29] anyone about on precise with the kubuntu ppa active? [17:29] yofel: digikam works? [17:29] jussi: which one? [17:29] I just crashed plasma :D [17:30] shadeslayer: the parts I use yes, still testing though [17:30] ah ok [17:30] yofel: beta [17:32] yofel: you could try otherwise also, right click the battery icon in the tray (need a laptop), then battery monitor settings, show remaining time for the battery, click apply - crash. [17:32] oh that [17:32] kde bug 302047 [17:32] KDE bug 302047 in general "Crash occured when configured battery plasmoid" [Crash,Unconfirmed: ] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302047 [17:33] oh yay, Im not the first one [17:33] the trick is to remove your battery so the plasmoid does not show up [17:34] so apparently the launchpad is kaput [17:34] doesn't accept no dputs [17:34] yofel: you wanted to make obs? :P [17:35] worked for me a few hours ago - just the publishing took 4h [17:37] 4h [17:37] good lawd [17:37] I will starve [17:37] noes! [17:39] shadeslayer: works fine [17:39] \o/ [17:39] * apachelogger uploads shadeslayer so he can go to pending state for 4 hours [17:39] lol [17:40] >.> [17:40] oh [17:40] actually [17:40] shadeslayer: I have the perfect bug for you to fix [17:40] in pgst? [17:40] see #kde-multimedia for my ramblings [17:40] you get to draw a diagram if you want [17:40] diagrams always help with threads [17:40] ugh [17:40] threads [17:41] kwin3_oxygen_appmenu.so has been removed ? [17:42] I mean, apparently it's no longer installed by kwin [17:42] !find kwin3_oxygen_appmenu.so [17:42] Package/file kwin3_oxygen_appmenu.so does not exist in precise [17:42] it never was [17:43] that is a forkd source from kde-apps [17:43] it's still installed here and ksmshell4 kwindecoration crashes... [17:43] bambee: you probably compiled it at some point in the past [17:43] and then did a sudo make install [17:43] huh ? I NEVER install upstream package in /usr :) [17:43] so... I don't think so [17:43] bambee: try a dpkg -S kwin3_oxygen_appmenu.so [17:44] (except phonon...) [17:44] good idea [17:44] kwin-style-oxygen-appmenu [17:44] W: digikam source: ancient-standards-version 3.8.4 (current is 3.9.3) \o/ [17:45] bambee: that's not even in the archive [17:45] :O [17:45] lololol :P [17:45] OOOOOOO+++++++++++++++++++CQ [17:46] bambee: now try apt-cache policy kwin-style-oxygen-appmenu [17:46] jussi: dafuq is that [17:46] brainfsck? [17:46] shadeslayer: it was Elodi - enjoying herself.... [17:46] cjwatson: can you refresh our packageset? I added a few things from universe to our supported seed that we maintain and mostly just got put in universe because of build-depends [17:46] ah [17:46] 4.7.2-0ubuntu1 and only found in /var/lib/dpkg/status ---> WTF ? [17:47] maybe we added it and removed it before release [17:47] jussi: elodi already on IRC ... expect great things :P [17:47] probably.. [17:48] shadeslayer: she will be brilliant - how was that sample of brainfuck? :D [17:48] anyone seen the latest talk by linus? I like him even more after that talk [17:48] link? [17:48] jussi: Who knows, she's probably testing out some new version of brainfuck [17:49] lol [17:49] yofel: [17:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShbP3OpASA [17:49] I've only watched 40 minutes of it though [17:49] jussi: finish people are lucky in terms of getting visits from Linus :P [17:50] shadeslayer: given I live pretty close to him now, I should drop round his house sometime :P [17:50] yay, I have no hibernate option anymore \o/ [17:50] (he does live in helsinki still?) [17:50] Don't think so ... he moved to the US iirc [17:50] yofel: yeah :/ [17:51] jussi: you can still turn it on if you want... [17:51] I guess upstream decided we had too many options [17:51] yofel: I dont use it thankfully - I use the suspend to RAM a whole lot [17:51] same here [17:52] apachelogger: can you add digikam to the packageset? [17:52] or tell me how to request [17:53] * yofel just asked for that [17:53] ah [17:53] unless there's some proper procedure other than pinging people on irc [17:53] where didja ask? [17:53] or rather, whom did you ask? [17:53] here? -7min [17:53] ahh [17:53] I thought some other channel as well [17:54] yofel: yeah, reporting a bug is the proper way [17:54] * debfx waits for someone to add /.*/ to supported ;) [17:54] roughly translates to not getting it done [17:55] aah [17:56] yay .. we haven't sync'd digikam packaging [17:56] debfx: well, we could update the excludes IMO, not sure what I'm supposed to do with permissions for dkms, lame or oss-compat... [17:58] yofel: I don't think you can exclude packages [17:58] do you guys know anyone with whom I could talk to about the Mac ISO images? [17:59] I probably would start with skaet [17:59] Foundations team right? [17:59] hmm === apachelogger is now known as lunchlogger [17:59] not sure what exactly s/he is responsible for though [17:59] skaet is the release manager no? [18:00] !gpgerr [18:00] Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com » [18:03] jussi: floodbot is very rude, he doesn't wanna talk to me [18:03] lunchlogger, you've changed your nickname, so I'll have to ask again: What is the letter of the alphabet immediately after A? [18:03] FloodBot1: 66 [18:04] * lunchlogger was expecting a discussion about whether 0x42 wouldn't be nicer [18:04] lol [18:04] haha [18:04] lol [18:04] oh yah, for everyone who does not get it ... A is 65 in decimal ascii :P [18:05] bah, after that battery crash I have a huge space in my tray :/ [18:05] and with that I am off to find something to eat [18:05] lunchlogger: you're too l33t for FloodBot1 [18:40] Riddell: can I get a ec2 instance ? [18:41] My VPS keeps falling short of memory :( [19:11] ok .. one small issue, there seems to be a libkvkontakte-data.install in our packaging, what do I do about it? [19:12] it only seems to be installing translations : usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/libkvkontakte.mo [19:13] since we're now in universe, do I simply drop that ? [19:14] ( seeing how we're going to use proper lang packs and not rosetta ) [19:14] s/proper/upstream/ [19:14] shadeslayer meant: "( seeing how we're going to use upstream lang packs and not rosetta )" [19:14] what's responsible for the brightness notification on the screen? plasma? [19:14] shadeslayer: if you drop that - you won't have translations at all I think [19:14] * yofel isn't a l10n expert though [19:15] well this is all confusing then, shouldn't we have separate lang packages for each language then? [19:15] also, that -data package doesn't exist anywhere in the control file [19:16] the control file needs fix0ring [19:18] yofel: fwiw I think in precise it didn't matter if we put the files in a install file or not [19:19] pkg-kde-tools automgically figured out necessary l10n bits [19:30] lunchlogger: ^ Advice on how to proceed? === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [19:44] what? === lunchlogger is now known as apachelogger [19:46] apachelogger, you've changed your nickname, so I'll have to ask again: Type the number 6 in letters, not in digits [19:46] FloodBot1: sei [19:46] jussi: why is it talking to me anyway? [19:46] I am only going to BS that bot anyway [19:46] I mean, look at its name [19:49] apachelogger: I dunno did you do something silly? [19:50] jussi: well, it aint called SillyBot1 now is it :P [19:50] actually that would be a good name [19:50] listens for obvoiusly silly words and then prints random quotes that use them [19:53] apachelogger: go talk to ljl ;) [19:59] apachelogger: we have libkvkontakte-data.install that installs translations [20:00] it's not there in the control files however, should I enable it? [20:00] or is pkg-kde-tools going to take over translation stripping magic in universe? [20:01] changelog isn't clear there - maybe I dropped it when I re-enabled libkvkontakte [20:01] yofel: yeah, I think so too [20:04] * shadeslayer enables it for now [20:04] Apparently I just won 1,000,000GBP [20:04] No need to work for life \o/ [20:08] shadeslayer: we do not strip [20:08] if the translations are not packaged they are not there === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Status: http://goo.gl/ZGGJP | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas [20:49] yofel: I've also uploaded calligra here : https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+packages [20:51] *blink* 113M tar o.O [20:51] heh :P [20:52] I'll request them to make xz tars [20:54] * shadeslayer wonders how much space that'll save [20:55] * yofel tries [20:55] already on it ;) [20:57] 90M calligra_2.4.91a.orig.tar.xz [20:57] shaved off 23 MB's .... not bad at all [20:58] shadeslayer: did you drop the marble patch? If yes please say so in the changelog [20:58] uhh ... yeah ... sorry about that [20:58] I'll fix it in the calligra bzr branch [20:59] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/calligra] Philip Muškovac * 21 * debian/patches/kubuntu_01_arm_fixes.diff add missing patch from last upload [21:02] shadeslayer: looks fine otherwise, so if it builds ship it [21:03] cool [21:03] needs testing first though [21:04] Pushed calligra packaging to bzr though [21:06] * shadeslayer is off to sleep [21:06] zZzZzzzz.... building kde-workspace is another good thing to make you sleepy -.- [21:38] yofel: sure, done [21:39] shadeslayer: need one? [21:41] cjwatson: thanks a lot :) === ybit2 is now known as ybit