[06:35] <husle-bunny> morning lvly ppl of mzansi
[07:53] <Kilos-> Maaz: coffee on
[07:53]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[07:54] <Kilos> morning all
[07:57] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos-!
[08:01] <Kilos-> Maaz: ty
[08:01] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos-
[08:35] <Kilos-> hi psydroid
[08:45] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[09:56] <Kilos> Maaz: hi
[09:56] <Maaz> Sup Kilos
[11:42] <charl> konichiwa, ojama shimas
[14:17] <Kilos> guten tag mein herr's
[14:18] <Kilos> dunno how to sat that> herritjies
[14:21] <charl> Kilos: herren
[14:22] <charl> anyway, how's it going?
[14:22] <Kilos> ah ty
[14:22] <Kilos> well ty and you charl 
[14:23] <Kilos> i see Audi clean up at Le Mans again
[14:23] <charl> not bad
[14:23] <charl> my head hurts from studying though
[14:23] <Kilos> oh my
[14:24] <Kilos> mine hurts from not being able to study
[14:24] <Kilos> are your eyes good lad?
[14:24] <charl> hmm that's quite the opposite problem
[14:24] <charl> for long distance i have glasses because i am near-sighted
[14:24] <charl> but unless i am driving i don't wear them
[14:25] <Kilos> ah i use here on the pc and stronger ones for reading books
[14:25] <charl> actually quite a nice pair of glasses, they have the sun-protection layer as well so they double as sun glasses
[14:25] <Kilos> thats nice
[14:25] <charl> ah i see, no i'm fortunate in that i don't have to wear them for computer or books
[14:26] <Kilos> haha and with choqok not being able to size fonts i need pc glasses to type and reading to follow choqok
[14:27] <charl> ah i see, never used choqok
[14:27] <charl> looks nice though, pity about the lack of font resizingt
[14:27] <charl> that should become standard in all applications
[14:27] <Kilos> its actually quite a nice twitter tool apart from not working as it should in gnome
[14:28] <Kilos> better than gtwitter
[14:28] <Kilos> imho
[14:28] <charl> gtwitter sucks imho
[14:28] <charl> or was that another tool i am thinking about....
[14:28] <charl> there was gwibber or something too
[14:28] <Kilos> gwibber isnt bad either but now i have twitter ubuntu-za in my pidgin then everything works
[14:29] <charl> ah nice
[14:29] <Kilos> having learned the follow and unfollow commands help
[14:29] <Kilos> s
[14:30] <charl> i friend of mine wrote a command-line twitter tool he maintained for some time
[14:30] <charl> but i don't think he is still developing it
[14:30] <Kilos> i see some in synaptic
[14:30] <charl> yeah i'm sure there must be others as well
[14:30] <Kilos> but now i will use pidgin where im at least at home
[14:31] <Kilos> yo sflr howzit
[14:31] <charl> hi sflr 
[14:32] <Kilos> methinks the kde things arent too happy on gnome charl 
[14:32] <Kilos> quassel and konversation dont have sound here either
[14:33] <Kilos> but i see one can do quassel without kde dependancies 
[14:34] <charl> i haven't had too many issues myself (outside of kde applications basically looking pretty crap) inside gnome
[14:34] <charl> but then i haven't used many recently
[14:34] <charl> i used kate as my primary code editor for quite some time
[14:34] <Kilos> i think maybe its better to keep kde stuff on kde
[14:35] <charl> yeah that is probably true
[14:35] <charl> i have anyway mostly converted to using command line applications instead
[14:35] <Kilos> but kate is needed for somethings on gnome as well. i have kate but it was needed for something else
[14:36] <Kilos> or libkate at least
[14:37] <sflr> hi Kilos, charl!
[14:47] <charl> hmmm could be incorporated into any code editor i guess
[14:48] <Kilos> hehe i dunno, it installed as a dependancy with something else i have always used on gnome
[15:07] <inetpro> Good evening ladies & gents 
[15:07] <Kilos> evening inetpro 
[15:07] <charl> hi inetpro 
[15:07] <charl> not entirely evening yet, one hour to go :)
[15:07] <Kilos> haha
[15:07] <inetpro> Hmm
[15:08] <Kilos> inetpro, amoi one can get quassel without kde dependancies hey
[15:08] <Kilos> quassel-qt4
[15:10]  * inetpro waiting at the hospital for me youngster to get some stitches
[15:10] <Kilos> oh my inetpro what happened
[15:11] <inetpro> fell from a stool onto a wooden bench... Hurt the forearm.. 
[15:11] <Kilos> ouch
[15:12] <inetpro> but she'll be ok. At least it's not to bad. 
[15:12] <inetpro> B
[15:13] <inetpro> But stitches are needed 
[15:14] <Kilos> shame man
[15:14] <Kilos> tell her sterkte van ubuntu-za
[15:15] <inetpro> looks like yet another tough weekend for me.... had a bad migraine yesterday afternoon 
[15:15] <Kilos> ag nee man
[15:17] <Kilos> inetpro, who is that tsomersault on our twitter
[15:18] <Kilos> is dit die nuwe meisie
[15:18] <inetpro> No idea 
[15:18] <Kilos> sjoe. you are supposed to know everything man
[15:19] <Kilos> oh thats charl 
[15:20] <inetpro> At least I was still able to upgrade me wife's little acer to Precise yesterday 
[15:20] <Kilos> nice
[15:20] <Kilos> unity precise?
[15:20] <inetpro> Yep... Working perfectly so far. 
[15:21] <Kilos> great
[15:23] <charl> nice
[15:24] <charl> i still have various servers that need upgrading but desktop-wise i am fully over to 12.04
[15:24] <Kilos> thats good
[15:25] <inetpro> that was the acer aspire one if I remember correctly 
[15:39] <Kilos> wb psydroid 
[15:42] <psydroid> ty Kilos
[15:54] <inetpro> ok, back at home with the little girl and her 7 stitches
[15:54] <Kilos> shame
[15:54] <Kilos> how old is she inetpro 
[15:54] <inetpro> all's well that ends well
[15:54] <Kilos> ?
[15:54] <inetpro> 6
[15:54] <Kilos> aw
[15:57] <inetpro> these little accidents happen way to quickly
[15:57] <Kilos> yeah 
[15:57] <Kilos> yo Jabberwocky 
[15:58] <inetpro> gotta wrap them up somehow so they can't hurt themselves
[15:58] <inetpro> :-)
[15:59] <inetpro> that only cost me like R600
[15:59] <Kilos> its life and its bumps. makes them grow up strong
[15:59] <Kilos> only?
[15:59] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:02] <Kilos> you cant mollycoddle them at home too much then they get hurt worse at school etc
[16:04] <inetpro> Kilos: yep, very true
[16:06] <sflr> hi inetpro, hope she gets better soon!
[16:06] <inetpro> sflr: thanks
[16:07] <sflr> now that i'm a father i think back and feel sorry for my parents how many time they got called cause I broke a bone here and there
[16:07] <Kilos> yeah its tough being a parent hey?
[16:07] <Kilos> we didnt appreciate them when we were young
[16:08] <sflr> yeah, we get the same from our kids :)
[16:09] <Kilos> lol its a serious thing the generation gap. we dont understand each other too well
[16:09] <sflr> interestingly kids and grandparents get along well
[16:10] <Kilos> that is so true
[16:12] <sflr> I watched Meteorite Men on Discovery channel. Looks very interesting. I wonder if meteorite hunting can be done in SA. All you need is a fancy metal detector :)
[16:12] <Kilos> hehe
[17:12] <Kilos> uh oh
[17:12] <Kilos> Maaz, hi
[17:12] <Maaz> Sup Kilos
[17:12] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[17:12]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[17:13] <Kilos> yay net split somewhere else
[17:13] <Kilos> sflr, you still here?
[17:13]  * sflr still here
[17:14] <Kilos> haha 
[17:14] <Kilos> ChanServ, wb
[17:15] <Kilos> inetpro, dont lose ops before tomorrow night
[17:15] <sflr> looking at meteorite craters and geology of SA
[17:16] <Kilos> what do they do with the meteors the unearth sflr 
[17:16] <Kilos> are they of some fancy metal?
[17:16] <sflr> usually donate to research, science centers
[17:16] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[17:17] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[17:17] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[17:17] <inetpro> Kilos: you want me to run the meeting?
[17:17] <sflr> yes, iron, nikkel, etc
[17:17] <Kilos> yes please inetpro looks like the monkey and maia and nuvolari  might not be here
[17:18] <sflr> lets try to keep the meeting duration 1 hour, not to overrun
[17:18] <inetpro> Kilos: hmm... 
[17:18]  * inetpro will have to get someone to assign permissions for Maaz
[17:18] <Kilos> oh ya
[17:18] <inetpro> and then  I guess I shall have to prepare
[17:19] <Kilos> the fly knows who does that
[17:19] <Kilos> maybe he can
[17:19] <inetpro> perhaps superfly should run it for us?
[17:19] <sflr> what permission Maaz needs?
[17:19] <Kilos> he does the admin work sflr 
[17:20] <Kilos> hehe
[17:20] <Kilos> records etc
[17:20] <sflr> ops. then we def need him.lol
[17:20] <Kilos> lol and coffee
[17:21] <Kilos> i dunno who else can give them other than cocooncrash 
[17:21] <inetpro> Maaz: permissions
[17:21] <Maaz> inetpro: I don't know who you are
[17:21] <inetpro> you see, he don't like me
[17:21] <Kilos> Maaz, tell cocooncrash Please can you give inetpro permissions for maaz for our meeting tomorrow night
[17:21] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure, I'll tell cocooncrash on freenode
[17:22] <inetpro> the chair should have chairmeeting permissions to run the meeting
[17:22] <Kilos> Maaz, tell cocooncrash Chairmeeting permissions please
[17:22] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure, I'll tell cocooncrash on freenode
[17:23] <inetpro> Maaz: list permissions
[17:23] <Maaz> inetpro: Permissions: admin, chairmeeting, config, core, debug, eval, factoid, factoidadmin, feeds, karma, karmaadmin, nmap, plugins, recvmemo, regex, saydo, sendmemo, sources and summon
[17:24] <nuvolari> o/ g'evening
[17:24] <nuvolari> lo oom Kilos, inetpro 
[17:24] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[17:24] <nuvolari> and sflr 
[17:24] <Kilos> inetpro, i tweeted and mail about the meet
[17:24] <Kilos> mailed
[17:25] <sflr> hey nuvolari
[17:25] <inetpro> Kilos: I noticed
[17:25] <sflr> you can try to login as config, debug, regex, nmap. lol
[17:26] <nuvolari> holy smokes! that's a massive agenda
[17:26] <nuvolari> looks intimidating :P
[17:26] <Kilos> yeah gonna be over an hour methinks
[17:26] <inetpro> ahh Kilos, you see he's ready for it and all
[17:27] <Kilos> who inetpro 
[17:27] <Kilos> lol nuvolari ?
[17:27] <inetpro> Kilos: nuvo
[17:27] <Kilos> ha ha 
[17:27] <nuvolari> I don't mind chairing 
[17:27] <Kilos> well when time comes if you have those permissions you can spread them 
[17:27] <nuvolari> and it looks like I will be around after all
[17:28] <inetpro> cool nuvolari
[17:28] <Kilos> nuvolari, do you know how to get permissions for maaz
[17:28] <Kilos> who knows whats up with maia
[17:29] <Kilos> is she ok?
[17:29] <inetpro> nuvolari: just check with Maaz with "Maaz: permissions"
[17:29] <nuvolari> Kilos: nope, sorry oom. AFAIK you need special kung-fu permissions to manage Maaz 
[17:29] <Kilos> lol
[17:29] <nuvolari> Maaz: permissions
[17:29] <Maaz> nuvolari: Permissions: chairmeeting
[17:29] <inetpro> now that is all you need
[17:29] <nuvolari> yeah
[17:30] <Kilos> is that all, doesnt it have to come from the crash kid?
[17:30] <nuvolari> Kilos: I did it last time oom
[17:30] <superfly> inetpro: afaik, cocooncrash gave you chairmeeting permissions too
[17:31] <nuvolari>  Maaz | inetpro: Permissions: ..., chairmeeting,
[17:31] <Maaz> nuvolari: What?
[17:31] <inetpro> noddy: permissions
[17:31] <Kilos> hiya superfly all good there?
[17:31] <inetpro> oops
[17:31] <Kilos> apart from weather that is
[17:31] <inetpro> Maaz: permissions
[17:31] <Maaz> inetpro: I don't know who you are
[17:31] <inetpro> superfly: ^^
[17:31] <nuvolari> oh, list available permissions
[17:32] <inetpro> superfly: but it's ok, nuvolari can run the show
[17:32]  * nuvolari is still waking up from his Sunday afternoon nap
[17:32] <Kilos> lucky lad
[17:32] <Kilos> yo not_found 
[17:32] <nuvolari> lo not_found!
[17:32] <not_found> Hiya Kilos , nuvolari ... and all :)
[17:33] <Kilos> dont miss the meet tomorrow night hey not_found 
[17:33] <not_found> just logged in to say I should be making it :)
[17:33] <Kilos> yay
[17:33] <inetpro> nuvolari: now do yourself a favour and copy the agenda to a text doc on your side with the relevant commands ready to change the topic at each point
[17:33] <inetpro> will make your life much easier
[17:34] <sflr> hi not_found!
[17:34] <nuvolari> Maaz: pull the pin
[17:34] <Maaz> nuvolari: What?
[17:34] <Kilos> inetpro, ideas on getting more list guys to our meetings
[17:34] <not_found> hi sflr 
[17:34] <inetpro> Kilos: sadly you can't force them
[17:35] <inetpro> if we keep doing it professionally they will eventually start coming
[17:35] <nuvolari> Maaz: meeting so far
[17:35] <Maaz> nuvolari: Excuse me?
[17:35] <nuvolari> argh
[17:35] <nuvolari> Maaz: minutes so far
[17:35] <Maaz> nuvolari: Sorry, no meeting in progress.
[17:35] <sflr> we should get an RSVP feature in the future, at least to see how many ppl come approx
[17:35] <inetpro> nuvolari: start meeting
[17:36] <Kilos> yeah inetpro inna diplomatic way. like pretty please we need you
[17:36] <nuvolari> inetpro: yeah, but I don't want to start it just yet :P
[17:36] <inetpro> Maaz: help meeting
[17:36] <Maaz> inetpro: Take minutes of an IRC Meeting. You can use it like this:
[17:36] <Maaz>   (start | end) meeting [about <title>]
[17:36] <Maaz>   I am <True Name>
[17:36] <Maaz>   topic <topic>
[17:36] <Maaz>   (agreed | idea | accepted | rejected) <statement>
[17:36] <Maaz>   minutes so far
[17:36] <Maaz>   meeting title is <title>
[17:36] <inetpro> nuvolari: you can always run a test if you want
[17:36] <Kilos> Maaz, keeps that info sflr 
[17:36] <Maaz> Kilos: What?
[17:37] <Kilos> hehe Maaz sorry
[17:37] <sflr> ok
[17:37] <Kilos> everyone logs in at the meeting and maaz keeps records
[17:37] <nuvolari> Maaz: start meeting about rehearsal for monthly meet
[17:37]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[17:37] <Kilos> thats why if maaz is sick we all are
[17:38] <inetpro> Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer
[17:38] <Maaz> inetpro: Yessir
[17:38] <nuvolari> Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt
[17:38] <Maaz> nuvolari: Done
[17:38] <Kilos> Maaz, I am Miles Sharpe
[17:38] <Maaz> Kilos: Done
[17:38] <sflr> Maaz: I am Steven Scheffler
[17:38] <Maaz> sflr: Done
[17:38] <sflr> no, i'm not done. lol
[17:38] <Kilos> lol
[17:38] <inetpro> Maaz: minutes so far?
[17:38] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-06-17-17-37-54.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-06-17-17-37-54.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-06-17-17-37-54.html
[17:39] <Kilos> underdone
[17:39] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic welcome
[17:39] <Maaz> Current Topic: welcome
[17:40] <nuvolari> seems like a lot of new people joined us lately
[17:40] <inetpro> Kilos: it seems like nuvolari is all sharpe to run the show tm
[17:41] <nuvolari> to each of you welcome
[17:41] <Kilos> lol yeah
[17:41]  * nuvolari facepalms
[17:41] <nuvolari> punctuation!
[17:41] <Kilos> Maaz, welcome
[17:41] <Maaz> Welcome to Ubuntu-za all you geeks
[17:42] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic review previous minutes
[17:42] <Maaz> Current Topic: review previous minutes
[17:42] <nuvolari> http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-05-21-17-44-22.txt
[17:43] <inetpro> nuvolari: remember teh actions as well
[17:43] <inetpro> (agreed | idea | accepted | rejected) <statement>
[17:43] <nuvolari> Maaz: idea keep up the pace with formal meetings
[17:43] <Maaz> Idea recorded: keep up the pace with formal meetings
[17:43] <inetpro> the*
[17:43] <nuvolari> lol, was about to try that :P
[17:44] <inetpro> :-)
[17:44] <inetpro> ahh, seems to me you are already well oiled and all
[17:44] <Kilos> hehe
[17:45] <nuvolari> Maaz: agreed Meeting at 19:30, June 18'th 2012
[17:45] <Maaz> Agreed: Meeting at 19:30, June 18'th 2012
[17:45] <nuvolari> ok, so rehearsal done?
[17:46] <inetpro> +1
[17:46] <nuvolari> Maaz: end meeting
[17:46] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[17:46] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-06-17-17-37-54.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-06-17-17-37-54.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-06-17-17-37-54.html
[17:47] <Kilos> see sflr Maaz be a clever bot
[17:48] <sflr> too true!
[17:48] <Kilos> nuvolari, jy lyk reg vir die ding. moenie nou more n hoofpyn kry nie
[17:49] <Kilos> we are actually organised here just the chairs keep falling over
[17:49] <nuvolari> nee ek sal hier wees oom
[17:49] <Kilos> mooi
[17:53] <Kilos> well guys looks like things are looking good for the meeting
[17:54] <Kilos> will have a good chuckle if the monkey and maia pitch as well
[17:55] <nuvolari> ack, need to go feed the dogs
[17:55] <nuvolari> bbiab
[17:55] <Kilos> k
[17:56] <Kilos> inetpro, you got dogs?
[17:56] <inetpro> Kilos: you mean nuvolari
[17:56] <Kilos> you man. dont you see the ?
[17:57] <Kilos> i got some info
[17:57] <Kilos> might save some of you some bucks
[17:57] <inetpro> huh?
[17:57] <Kilos> inetpro, ^^
[17:57] <inetpro> yes I've got like 4 straatbrakke
 ack, need to go feed the dogs
[17:57] <Kilos> ok listen. gotta try remember
[17:58] <Kilos> when i was on the farm in utrecht
[17:58] <Kilos> farmer was on the boerbull telers raad and his father was a founder member of them
[17:59] <Kilos> he was advised to feed them express weaner which is actually for pigs
[17:59] <inetpro> yikes
[18:00] <Kilos> so he had it analysed at a lab and was told it is the perfect dogs food available
[18:00] <Kilos> got everything a dog needs
[18:01] <Kilos> was a well kept secret but if it can help anyone here i be happy
[18:01] <Kilos> i think it is make by meadowfeeds
[18:01] <Kilos> cant member for sure about the manufcturers
[18:02] <Kilos> you guys can google the feed making companies just to make sure.
[18:03] <Kilos> you buy it from co-ops in 50kg bags
[18:04] <inetpro> and then you feed them like a pig?
[18:04] <Kilos> dis soos afrond korrels vir jou broilers
[18:04] <inetpro> shame
[18:04] <inetpro> :-)
[18:04] <Kilos> no man you put it in their dishes
[18:04] <Kilos> it doesnt make dogs grow so fast man
[18:05] <Kilos> its a complete dog food
[18:05] <inetpro> I can remember from the farm my dad used to make his own mixes
[18:05] <inetpro> some of that stuff was actually very tasty
[18:05] <Kilos> made a massive diffs to the pocket when feeding 20 boerboele
[18:06] <Kilos> lol
[18:06] <Kilos> funny how these things poup from before winmill days
[18:07] <Kilos> popup
[18:07] <sflr> inetpro did you also taste it? lol
[18:08] <inetpro> sflr: for sure
[18:09] <inetpro> sflr: that's how I got so clever
[18:09] <inetpro> :-)
[18:09] <sflr> haha. and dogs stayed hungry?
[18:10] <sflr> for the meeting intro we could also say the location where are we from?
[18:10] <sflr> to plan the meetups, etc
[18:10] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[18:11] <Kilos> also maybe the idea of the NPO thing can go to lists and might attract some more geeks
[18:15]  * nuvolari is not much of a dog-lover
[18:15] <nuvolari> cats I like
[18:15] <Kilos> its the only friend one can ever have that loves you more than itself
[18:16] <Kilos> think i warped that a bit
[18:16] <sflr> more geeks? "A geek is an unfashionable or socially inept person." - dictionary definition. lol
[18:16] <sflr> nuvolari, its said that cats are aliens. we serve them all the time.
[18:17] <Kilos> haha i got other info on that from someone here
[18:17] <Kilos> inetpro, where was that place that gives all the info on geeks and nerds etc
[18:17] <inetpro> ?
[18:17] <Kilos> sigh
[18:18] <Kilos> was a site with explanations on modern slang etc
[18:18] <Kilos> i cant member 3 years back man
[18:18] <Kilos> it even had kiff there remember
[18:19] <Kilos> pity my blog aint up anymore
[18:20] <sflr> http://www.urbandictionary.com/ ?
[18:20] <Kilos> sflr, ill try find the relevant info and pastebin it
[18:20] <Kilos> my version of a geek
[18:21] <sflr> ok. I know what you meant, was just kidding
[18:21] <Kilos> yeah i know man
[18:21] <Kilos> i blogged a nice bit about geeks i think
[18:23] <sflr> Kilos, you not blogging anymore?
[18:24] <Kilos> its actually an involved story sflr conflict of interests i think it would be called
[18:25] <sflr> i see. so you had to quit?
[18:25] <Kilos> kinda yeah. was too visible
[18:26] <Kilos> maybe i can put it up somewhere again if i can make it by invite only
[18:29] <inetpro> sflr: he has a beautiful young daughter who's trying to build herself some fame and it may just happen that his story could have a slight nagative impact on her aspirations
[18:30] <inetpro> not sure how, but he did the wise thing to pull it off
[18:30] <sflr> thanks for the update inetpro
[18:30] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[18:31] <Kilos> im trying to find it. hope it didnt disappear with my last crash
[18:31] <sflr> you know everything comes out sooner or later. specially for a person who becomes famous
[18:31] <Kilos> yeah the media can cause ructions if we connected openly
[18:32] <nuvolari> sflr: either way, I'm better frends with aliens than with dogs
[18:32] <Kilos> lol
[18:32]  * inetpro lol
[18:33] <sflr> haha nuvolari. feel connected
[18:34] <sflr> Kilos, that's painful =(
[18:34] <Kilos> ya
[18:35] <Kilos> superfly, werent you making a blog engine?
[18:35] <Kilos> or whatever you call it
[18:35] <superfly> Kilos: about 2 years ago...
[18:36] <Kilos> and still not useable yet?
[18:36] <Kilos> oh code365?
[18:37] <sflr> wordpress? :)
[18:37] <Kilos> i had it at blogspot but was too visible
[18:38] <Kilos> if i can make it by invite only then who knows
[18:39] <Kilos> was just keen to show you my opinion of a geek
[18:39] <Kilos> wanted to hit my son when he called me one
[18:39] <sflr> I think you can make blogspot blog a private one. but not sure. 
[18:40] <sflr> haha, is your son also a geek?
[18:40] <Kilos> more so than me he loves playing with pcs
[18:40] <Kilos> yo magespawn 
[18:40] <magespawn> Evening all
[18:40] <magespawn> Hey Kilos
[18:41] <nuvolari> Add your blog to our listings? ?
[18:41] <nuvolari>   Yes   No
[18:41] <nuvolari> Let search engines find your blog? ?
[18:41] <nuvolari>   Yes   No
[18:41] <nuvolari> sorry for spamming
[18:41] <nuvolari> ^^ blogger privacy options
[18:43] <magespawn> Who hosts the mailman for the ubuntu-za mailing list?
[18:43] <Banlam> who is miles?
[18:43] <sflr> hi magespawn
[18:44] <sflr> & Banlam
[18:44] <Banlam> evening
[18:44] <magespawn> Hi sflr, Banlam
[18:45] <magespawn> Kilos is miles
[18:45] <Kilos> it was there nuvolari  and i had to ask the fly to delete it
[18:45] <Kilos> hah
[18:45] <sflr> Miles is Kilos
[18:45] <Kilos> where you got that Banlam 
[18:45] <Banlam> aha
[18:45] <Banlam> :P
[18:46] <Banlam> ubuntuza mail list
[18:46] <sflr> how many ppl are subsribed to the mailing list?
[18:47] <Kilos> lots
[18:47] <sflr> i meant in numbers :) 200?
[18:47] <Kilos> most help from there and dont join us here
[18:47] <Kilos> ?
[18:49] <Kilos> maybe when he has time the fly can tell us
[18:49] <Kilos> most noobs go there for help in the beginning
[18:51] <magespawn> I think they should come here, more interactive and personal.
[18:51] <Banlam> i only joined the list on thursday
[18:51] <Banlam> i can't remember why i joined here
[18:52] <Kilos> Banlam, its mainly for guys like me that cant help themselves i think
[18:52] <Banlam> the channel?
[18:52] <Kilos> we have been trying for months to get them here
[18:52] <Kilos> no the lists
[18:53] <Kilos> when you first install ubuntu if you doff you go lists for help
[18:55]  * sflr went to google for help
[18:55]  * Banlam bothered friends
[18:55] <Kilos> i hate google
[18:56] <Kilos> i used lists for a week or 2 then the fly i think explained to me how to get here
[18:56] <superfly> sflr: I despise WordPress - I was writing my own blog engine in Python
[18:56] <Kilos> dont forget i was a mechanic farmer
[18:56] <Banlam> and then what happened?
[18:57] <Kilos> then i crashed
[18:57] <Kilos> bust head open and visited the pearly gates
[18:57] <Kilos> hehe
[18:58] <Kilos> DOA means nothing if the big boss is on your side
[19:03] <Kilos> here is my opinion of geeks
[19:03] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s21IMHuRkY
[19:08] <magespawn> Lol @ Kilos
[19:08] <Kilos> superfly, will you ever finish it?
[19:09] <magespawn> superfly do you know who hosts the ubuntu-za mailing list?
[19:09] <Kilos> Banlam, i did have friends in the IT or even pc world
[19:09] <Kilos> didnt
[19:09] <superfly> Kilos: I don't know... maybe if I have some holiday, and I get a bee in my bonnet
[19:10] <inetpro> Kilos: that was very well written and worth reading again 
[19:10] <superfly> magespawn: Canonical
[19:10] <Kilos> wasty inetpro 
[19:10] <Kilos> oops
[19:10] <Kilos> ty
[19:10] <Kilos> dunno what was was for
[19:10] <inetpro> :-)
[19:11] <Kilos> if i member right i just gave some vague ideas and the fly wrote it for me
[19:11] <inetpro> ok, /me is going offline for a few minutes to install Kubuntu 12.04 on this device of mine
[19:11] <magespawn> Ahhh. Could you host it over a dsl connection if the list was small? Say 10 - 12 ppl?
[19:11]  * inetpro bbl
[19:11] <Kilos> good luck inetpro 
[19:12] <superfly> magespawn: you *could*
[19:13] <superfly> magespawn: practically, a number of web hosts already have mailing lists, and getting a VPS is pretty cheap these days
[19:13] <magespawn> What is pretty cheap?
[19:13] <tumbleweed> serving e-mail from DSL is a pretty bad idea. Many mailservers block e-mail from dynamic IP ranges
[19:14] <Kilos> evening tumbleweed 
[19:14] <magespawn> Let me explain whay I need it.
[19:15] <tumbleweed> evening (waving from a heathrow depature lounge, after an extended post-UDS european jaunt)
[19:15] <tumbleweed> magespawn: pretty cheap = ~ $10 / month
[19:15] <magespawn> I am seceretary of my kids school SGB, and co-ordinating the meetings is getting to take up too much time, just mailing ppl
[19:16] <magespawn> Thats about 80-100 rand.
[19:16] <magespawn> Can gmail do it?
[19:16] <nuvolari> magespawn: google-groups
[19:17] <magespawn> R1200-00 tand a year or so.
[19:17] <magespawn> Rand
[19:18] <magespawn> Mm there is an idea, I set up a google site for the school, so I should be able to add it to that.
[19:18] <tumbleweed> yup, google groups is the easy answer here
[19:18] <magespawn> Ty guys,just needed another mind, point of view. Should have thought of that ages ago.
[19:19] <Banlam> magespawn, what exactly do you need?
[19:19] <Banlam> just a mailing list server?
[19:20] <magespawn> Yup
[19:21] <Banlam> surely there are free services
[19:21] <magespawn> Something so that when one person suggests a change, I do not have forward the mail.
[19:21] <nuvolari> Banlam: *cough* google groups again :P
[19:21] <Kilos> lol
[19:21] <Banlam> :P
[19:21] <magespawn> Lol
[19:21] <tumbleweed> magespawn: I bet they'll still mail you directly
[19:22] <magespawn> Maybe would have to get them used to idea of the list.
[19:22] <Kilos> tumbleweed, will you be able to make tomorrow nights meeting?
[19:23] <magespawn> People programming is harder than computer programming.
[19:23] <tumbleweed> Kilos: I intend to
[19:23] <Kilos> impossible to program some peeps
[19:23] <Kilos> yay
[19:24] <Banlam> just send an email back to the people, that looks like it's been bounced by a server saying to forward emails to XYZ address
[19:24]  * tumbleweed wanders off to board
[19:24] <Kilos> fly safe tumbleweed 
[19:26] <magespawn> I have a paid for address that I have been trying to get people to stop using for 5 years now.
[19:26] <Kilos> lol
[19:27] <Kilos> put an auto forward into it and close it
[19:28] <Kilos> or close it and they can get unable to deliver  mails back
[19:28] <Kilos> then they will fone you
[19:29] <magespawn> They already have my other one, and still every now and then they use the old one.
[19:29] <cocooncrash> Kilos, superfly: superfly and drubin can grant permissions
[19:30] <superfly> ah, ok
[19:30] <Kilos> ty cocooncrash will try remember that
[19:30] <superfly> ta cocooncrash
[19:30] <Kilos> drubin is kinda missing in action lately
[19:33] <Kilos> hey magespawn you can use gc for school meetings
[19:33] <magespawn> Kilos that was the idea butnher connection is only dsl
[19:34] <Kilos> dsl?
[19:34] <magespawn> Sorry ADSL
[19:34] <Kilos> so thats fast enough
[19:34] <Kilos> its only text
[19:35] <Kilos> or you want videos too
[19:35] <magespawn> We generally all live close by, so no need to do a telly meeting.
[19:35] <Kilos> lol
[19:36] <Kilos> as long as you get tea/coffee and cookies thats good
[19:41] <magespawn> We do.
[19:41] <Kilos> lol
[19:42] <sflr> magespawn, if it is for a school you can try Google Apps for Education http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/edu/
[19:46]  * inetpro is back though not optimal yet... lot's of updating and configuration to do
[19:48] <inetpro> but I feel right at home already
[19:48] <Kilos> yay inetpro 
[19:50] <magespawn> sflr already have the free google apps set up for, just did not know I could set up a mailing list with it
[19:50] <magespawn> Will move to that one if the situation warrants it.
[19:50] <inetpro> tumbleweed: good to see you online again, you back?
[19:51] <inetpro> cocooncrash: ahh, and even cocooncrash?
[19:52] <sflr> yes, that will work magespawn. http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/edu/groups.html
[19:53] <inetpro> ahh, the tumbling tumbleweed is at the airport
[19:53] <Kilos> hehe
[19:54] <inetpro> magespawn: google groups is the answer
[20:18] <Kilos> night all of you guys. sleep tight
[20:18] <Kilos> see you's tomorrow
[20:19] <Kilos> Maaz, night
[20:19] <Maaz> Kilos: Bye
[20:19] <sflr> bye Kilos!
[20:20] <magespawn> I am also out of here, thanks for the help and advice, night all.
[20:45] <inetpro> superfly: what's that package that tumbleweed suggested again in stead of the propriatary nvidia drivers?
[20:45] <superfly> nouveau
[20:45] <inetpro> ahh
[20:45] <inetpro> thanks
[20:48] <charl> nn all