[00:02] <jagginess> aFeijo, workeD?
[00:04] <aFeijo> jagginess, yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!! Thanks a billion
[00:05] <jagginess> aFeijo, np :)
[00:05] <aFeijo> jagginess, I believe the trick was power up WITH the usb inserted, in the BIOS screens it appeared my Corsair drive
[00:05] <aFeijo> now I can format that piece of cr*p, lol
[00:05] <aFeijo> sorry the language :/
[00:05] <jagginess> aFeijo, btw i was almost going to say to upgrade your bios.. (which occassionally there are patches to small things like this)
[00:06] <jagginess> aFeijo, cool! glad to know it works :)
[00:06] <aFeijo> jagginess, I had this device useless, lol
[00:07] <jagginess> aFeijo, (psst i would allow a resize of fat32 or ntfs before wiping it out)-- you can always resize ext3/ext4 later.. and force grub to reinstall itself for its boot fix
[00:07] <aFeijo> jagginess, yeah I will just make some room for Ubuntu, and leave this damaged Windows in its NTFS with the files and pictures from my sister in law hehe
[00:08] <jagginess> aFeijom the ubuntu installer can safely do this for you too :)
[00:08] <Tayl> Hey I've got a few questions about Ubuntu, can you answer them here?
[00:08] <genii-around> Tayl: Ask away
[00:08] <Tayl> Awesome!
[00:08] <Tayl> First question:
[00:09] <Tayl> Wait hold on.
[00:09] <aFeijo> jagginess, I know :) I'm quite good with linux both desktop and server ;)
[00:09] <Tayl> Nevermind, crisis averted
[00:09] <jagginess> aFeijo, you are? :) well i have a question for you!
[00:09] <genii-around> That was odd.
[00:09] <PrIsmaTicO> !es ! prismatico
[00:09] <jagginess> aFeijo, (raid desktop.. not sure if it can be done.. but on server iso it can)
[00:10] <wylde_> !es | PrIsmaTicO
[00:10] <jagginess> or anyone who knows about this.. i should check that
[00:10] <aFeijo> jagginess, my area is web development, nginx server, mysql db, etc. :)
[00:10] <jagginess> aFeijo, ok cool cool.. but you need raid for servers too! :p
[00:10] <aFeijo> I have a hardware raid in my office, but running windows 2008 server
[00:11] <PrIsmaTicO> thanks
[00:11] <aFeijo> my production servers are VPS at linode.com or dedicated at ovh.net :)
[00:11] <jagginess> oh hardware raid is the best to go.. you must have a stable economy running there.. real hardware raid is $$$
[00:11] <jagginess> that's good :)
[00:11] <dsnyders> Hi all!  When I try to use the up and down arrow keys while in insert mode in vi, I get stray characters and no cursor movement.  How do I fix this?
[00:12] <jagginess> i should get my own vps sometime this summer i hope.. and mess around with kvm-over-ip..
[00:12] <jagginess> but keep procrastinating..
[00:12] <jagginess> lol
[00:13] <jagginess> aFeijo, btw.. m$ announced last week to host linux in their hyperv clouds...
[00:13] <jagginess> hehehe
[00:13] <zykotick9> dsnyders: install vim
[00:13] <jagginess> (not directly from m$ but from some subordinate company)
[00:13] <mz|`> and linode announced 250K$ of goodies for their birthday
[00:13] <mz|`> ^_^
[00:15] <aaas> 3
[00:16] <helppppp> i installed some docks. and mistakenly closed the Unity.. now my desktop isnt showing anything.. not the docks + the unity bar :o
[00:16] <aFeijo> jagginess, I'm using linode to host my RPG drupal game :)
[00:17] <helppppp> im now logged in as guest
[00:17] <mputtr> hi, i just did a fresh install of the latest ubuntu and I was wondering how do I go about changing the screen borders (when connected via HDMI to a TV) so it fits the screen?
[00:18] <mputtr> this is on the AMD e350 cpu
[00:18] <dsnyders> zykotick9, That seems to have done it... thanks!
[00:18] <green_tech> mputtr, id adjust it inside of the amdcccle center thing if you have it
[00:18] <helppppp> i installed some docks. and mistakenly closed the Unity.. now my desktop isnt showing anything.. not the docks + the unity bar :o
[00:19] <mputtr> oh man.. i have no idea how to do that at all
[00:19] <hanscom> I hate Unity
[00:19] <mputtr> so this would require me to manually change code?
[00:19] <upp> hello why i don't found  irssi-plugin-silc with apt-cache
[00:19] <upp> i have donwload a .deb from ubuntu.com but i can't install it  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[00:20] <mputtr> i've extremely new to ubuntu, so i guess i can find this in the ubuntu software center?
[00:20] <hanscom> mputtr: Do you know how to use a text editor ?
[00:21] <mputtr> hanscom: apart from just keeping temporary notes...that's about it
[00:21] <mputtr> i have 0 experience with linux in general. I'm trying to learn more about ubuntu and linux in general
[00:21] <hanscom> mputtr: Using Linux you will need to know how to use a text editor to edit configuration files and to program
[00:22] <mputtr> ok.
[00:22] <A0D> mputtr: use a program called nano. its an easy to use command line text editor
[00:22] <mputtr> i'll go read up on that then
[00:22] <mputtr> got it
[00:23] <hanscom> mputtr: nano or gedit are text editors on Linux but there are many more
[00:23] <upp> i need help to install irssi-plugin-silc
[00:23] <hanscom> mputtr: Check this out - > http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/42980/the-beginners-guide-to-nano-the-linux-command-line-text-editor/
[00:24] <mputtr> cool. im gonna read up on it right now
[00:28] <upp> i need help to install irssi-plugin-silc
[00:30] <pedroelias> holaaaaaaaaaaaasss
[00:30] <genii-around> !es | pedroelias
[00:30] <Nosophorus> hello
[00:30] <upp> !silc
[00:31] <pedroelias> y ubuntu venezuela
[00:32] <HelloWorld321> If my netstat is barely over a page (50 lines), does that seem a little light?
[00:34] <genii-around> !info irssi-plugin-silc
[00:34] <genii-around> Hm
[00:34] <genii-around> !info irssi-plugin-silc lucid
[00:36] <morsnowski> hi
[00:38] <mz|`> HelloWorld321: use netstat -tunlp for services, or lsof -Pan -o tcp -i udp for all connections
[00:39] <mz|`> if you want to see all unix + tcp + udp + else, use just lsof
[00:39] <HelloWorld321> tz mz|`
[00:42] <BenLue> good morning guys
[00:44] <BenLue> i need some help. I have an NVIDIA GRACA and connect with my TV via HDMI cable. Now my Problem is, it isnt working... No picture on my TV
[00:44] <morsnowski> so I have a question that isn't exactly off topic but I'm not sure where it fits in. Today I copied 2 jrr Tolkien audiobooks from a usb stick to disk. I'm running 12.04 pretty much out of the box. Now I have ad's from google and facebook for tolkien audiobooks.
[00:44] <morsnowski> OK forget to ask a question, who the f*** do they spot lokal transactions?
[00:46] <morsnowski> hmm not who more like how
[00:46] <BenLue> try locate your file ?!?
[00:46] <zykotick9> morsnowski: did you search for tolkien on a web page perhaps?  or did you use chrome to download?
[00:47] <JohnTeddy> How can I find out what package a particular file on my system belongs to?
[00:48] <zykotick9> JohnTeddy: "dpkg -S /path/to/file" might?
[00:48] <BenLue> ore isnt Ubuntu 12.04 supporting TV via hdmi connection?
[00:49] <JohnTeddy> I have a laptop, and I'm also using an extra monitor. When I have chrome on my laptop screen playing a youtube video, if I full screen teh youtube video.. it opens on my extra monitor. How can I get it to open on my laptop?
[00:49] <JohnTeddy> zykotick9: thanks
[00:50] <mangdood> I'm still stuck in 11.10 and I want to try some packages before picking a new distro. However, I get errors when trying to get the packages
[00:50] <BenLue> JohnTeddy: u set your extra Montior as Default ?
[00:52] <BenLue> anyone familiar with nvidia hdmi connection to tv devices?
[00:54] <JohnTeddy> BenLue: How do I do that?
[00:55] <Krystal_Jade> is there anyone that is familiar with HP laptops?  I can not get the SD card reader on my system to work
[00:56] <Guest93836> can someone tell me what the big difference between ubuntu and xubuntu is?
[00:56] <fizyplankton> is it possible to give a partition a different UUID?
[00:56] <morsnowski> zykotick9, no i dind't i'm absolutely certain
[00:56] <genii-around> fizyplankton: Yep
[00:57] <fizyplankton> genii-around: is it possible to give it a specific one, or is it just random?
[00:57] <genii-around> fizyplankton: http://askubuntu.com/questions/132079/how-do-i-change-uuid-of-a-disk-to-whatever-i-want
[00:58] <fizyplankton> genii-around: thanks
[00:58] <genii-around> fizyplankton: You're welcome
[00:58] <ctdabomb> i got this update error: http://www.pasteall.org/32955
[00:58] <morsnowski> got to hit the sack, I'm gonna bring that up tomorrow again.
[00:58] <ctdabomb> 10.04
[00:58] <wawowe3> Guest93836: xubuntu installs xfce4 by default
[00:59] <HelloWorld321> and I think I remember from this morning that xfce is a desktop environment that in some ppl's opinion is very heavy?
[00:59] <Krystal_Jade> hello?
[01:00] <mz|`> ctdabomb: update before upgrade/install
[01:00] <Guest93836> but in functionality ubuntu and xubuntu are the same?
[01:00] <wawowe3> HelloWorld321: compared to gnome or kde it's very light. but yeah i'd agree it's still to heavy for me
[01:00] <ctdabomb> mz|`: this is from the update manager.....
[01:00] <wawowe3> HelloWorld321: then again everything is too heavy for me
[01:00] <Guest93836> i thought xfce was light
[01:00] <Guest93836> ok
[01:00] <mz|`> ctdabomb: so make sure ipv4 works well
[01:00] <wawowe3> Guest93836: it is, relatively
[01:01] <ctdabomb> :/ how???
[01:01] <mz|`> ctdabomb: open a terminal and do 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:01] <mz|`> then upgrade with update manager
[01:01] <ctdabomb> ok
[01:01] <mz|`> and see what happens
[01:01] <HelloWorld321> oic, here it is: "(10:27:22 AM) c_smith: Guest20033, a lightweight DE that is still somewhat bloated."
[01:02] <mz|`> if it does not works, then, to test ipv4 to security.ubuntu.com, do 'traceroute -4 security.ubuntu.com' in a terminal too
[01:03] <wawowe3> HelloWorld321: pretty much any DE is going to be bloated
[01:03] <wawowe3> HelloWorld321: that's why some people only use window managers
[01:03] <Krystal_Jade> does anyone know how to get POL to run the games I have installed?
[01:03] <genii-around> HelloWorld321: Curently the lightest *buntu derivative is lubuntu
[01:04] <Guest93836> anyone familiar with xubuntu voyager?
[01:04] <wawowe3> HelloWorld321: lxde is openbox, pcmanfm and a taskbar
[01:05] <mz|`> i3wm ftw.
[01:05] <ctdabomb> mz|`: works, thanks
[01:05] <mz|`> you welcome man
[01:05] <c0de_universal> hello
[01:06] <fantazmythe> hi, im trying to find the edit software sources but i cant
[01:06] <fantazmythe> where can i find it?
[01:06] <fantazmythe> im trying to install wine
[01:06] <wawowe3> fantazmythe: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:06] <wawowe3> fantazmythe: but you shouldn't need to edit the sources to install wine
[01:06] <mz|`> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[01:07] <fantazmythe> http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[01:07] <fantazmythe> im just following these instructions
[01:07] <wawowe3> fantazmythe: apt-get install wine
[01:07] <fantazmythe> apt?
[01:07] <wawowe3> fantazmythe: unless you just need a specific version or a custom patched version
[01:07] <fantazmythe> <--- new to linux
[01:07] <mz|`> preferred to get the last version of wine..
[01:07] <mz|`> so follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu to add repos to your sources list
[01:07] <mz|`> using a GUI
[01:08] <fantazmythe> wait
[01:08] <fantazmythe> it allready has wine?
[01:08] <fantazmythe> how do i find it?
[01:08] <mz|`> not the last version but yes
[01:08] <mz|`> fantazmythe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[01:08] <fantazmythe> im basically trying to install steam on my ubuntu
[01:08] <mz|`> wow
[01:08] <fantazmythe> ?
[01:08] <Krystal_Jade> I thought steam didn't run on linux
[01:09] <hekate> Hi, I'm trying to upload my contacts that I downloaded from Google Contacts to Ubuntu One Contacts, and following links always leads me to this page: https://one.ubuntu.com/help/tutorial/install-and-setup-contacts-sync/
[01:09] <fantazmythe> not directly
[01:09] <mangdood> I'm still stuck in 11.10 and I want to try some packages before picking a new distro. However, I get errors when trying to get the packages
[01:09] <Krystal_Jade> you're rying to use wine?
[01:09] <fantazmythe> https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Steam_under_Linux
[01:09] <fantazmythe> following these instructrions
[01:09] <hekate> However, those are instructions for 10.04 to 11.04, and I'm using 12.04. How do I upload/use my contacts from ubuntu One on 12.04
[01:10] <mz|`> install directly the last version of wine and the last version of playonlinux
[01:11] <fantazmythe> that for me or hekate?
[01:11] <hekate> probably you fantazmythe
[01:11] <mz|`> fantazmythe: for you...
[01:11] <fantazmythe> just making sure :)
[01:11] <hekate> There's only two ways to add contacts apparently, through Desktop which goes to that link I posted above, and through Facebook
[01:12] <hekate> I don't have Facebook and am on 12.04 Precise, not any of the previous
[01:12] <mz|`> hekate: should be the same way
[01:12] <artie> how do I copy my entire desktop files and folders to a usb drive, using only the command line???
[01:13] <hekate> mz|`: not really, because those instructions say how to do it from Evolution, which is the mail client in 10.04-11.04. In 12.04, it's Thunderbird
[01:13] <jagginess> artie, echo "Sirii copy all my desktop files to usb"
[01:13] <mz|`> rsync -zah --progress  /path/to/your/dir /path/to/your/usb/
[01:13] <hekate> I shouldn't have to install a whole new mail client and setup just to get my contacts up at Ubuntu One...I have the vCard files...
[01:13] <mz|`> for artie
[01:14] <mz|`> jagginess: hahaaa :)
[01:14] <hekate> Surely there should be a way to just upload the vCard files to Ubuntu Uone
[01:14] <jagginess> artie, there's a backup tool in menu or systemsettings
[01:14] <hekate> *One
[01:14] <mz|`> rsync, damn it
[01:14] <mz|`> :)
[01:14] <wawowe3> artie: something like: mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt && cp -a /home/user /mnt
[01:14] <mz|`> or better, rsnapshot
[01:15]  * jagginess backs up everything automatically after configuring with 'gksudo sbackup-conf**'
[01:15] <wawowe3> artie: you'll probably want to either use a better fs on the flash drive (not fat32) or tar your home
[01:16] <wawowe3> artie: to keep the permissions i mean
[01:16] <haylo> i dd one drive onto another for backup
[01:17] <artie> ok, Im too new to deciper the comments..........I need access to files on my desktop, but the computer is stuck in command line....and I don't know command line well.
[01:18] <haylo> artie,try running 'startx'
[01:18] <artie> did t already, startx does nothing.
[01:18] <wylde_> artie: cd ~/Desktop
[01:18] <wawowe3> artie: what operating system to you intend to plug the flash drive into after you copy your desktop files to it?
[01:19] <freedom4alll> How do I 100% remove the mess called Unity. Going to use XFCE
[01:19] <wawowe3> freedom4alll: apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop && apt-get --purge autoremove
[01:19] <artie> all my other users have no problem, they get the gui interface as soon as they log in....nut not me-somehow I got my user stuck in the command line ,ode.
[01:19] <zykotick9> freedom4alll: start from a mini-iso install and only install xfce is my suggestion
[01:19] <freedom4alll> wawowe3 thats it?
[01:20] <wawowe3> freedom4alll: that's how i removed it
[01:20] <wawowe3> freedom4alll: then if you want xfce: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:21] <haylo> sudo apt-get install xfce4
[01:21] <freedom4alll> zykotick9 yeah I used he Debian netcard and installed it headless. Then installed aptitude install xfce4 xfce4-goodies .Would like the same with this machine.
[01:21] <OerHeks> !purexfce
[01:21] <wylde_> !purexfce
[01:21] <wawowe3> artie: does your system have graphical login?
[01:21] <artie> wawowe3, I hope to copy files from my desktop that's stuck in command line mode, and then recopy them to another linux users account.
[01:21] <freedom4alll> zykotick9 might just do it like you said. Just not use ubuntu.
[01:21] <zykotick9> freedom4alll: ubuntu's mini is almost identical to debian's netinstall (cooler actually)
[01:21] <haylo> freedom4alll, mini.iso is like the debian business card image
[01:22] <Xpl01t> freedom4alll: i guess that ubuntu guys should make avaliable a version with KDE to download. I didnt like that mess called Unity too
[01:22] <freedom4alll> I like that I can set the repos to testing and not have to deal with he 6 month rolling release.
[01:22] <b0llo> im getting some weird kernel error in ubuntu LTS
[01:22] <haylo> yeah ubuntu netinstall is pretyy cool actually. im on one right now
[01:22] <mz|`> Xpl01t: like kbuntu ?
[01:22] <b0llo> its too long to paste in here though
[01:23] <b0llo> http://wikipaste.eu/KpUEcXZa
[01:23] <wawowe3> artie: are both accounts on the same machine?
[01:23] <mz|`> kubuntu*
[01:23] <artie> wawowe3, yes, all users have graphical login....but after logging in, one of the users is taken to a command line interface....all the others get the standard afce desktop.
[01:23] <artie> both accounts are on the same machine.
[01:23] <freedom4alll> zykotick9 just that I dont have time right at this moment to do that. Almost shit an egg roll with this DUMB ass DE. Had 13 terminals open and Unity just sux for that.
[01:24] <wawowe3> artie: cp -R /home/user1 /home/user2/Desktop/
[01:24] <wawowe3> artie: sudo cp -R /home/user1 /home/user2/Desktop/
[01:24] <freedom4alll> what that might be a lot to copy =)
[01:24] <wawowe3> artie: don't do it twice, just append sudo to the beginning of the first one
[01:24] <zykotick9> freedom4alll: my real suggestion.  don't like unity - don't use ubuntu period.  using ubuntu just means more unity... show you don't like Unity - change distros.
[01:25] <b0llo> http://wikipaste.eu/KpUEcXZa <- i keep getting this weird kernel error message
[01:25] <b0llo> need help with this plz
[01:25] <wawowe3> artie: then: sudo chown -R user2: /home/user2/Desktop/user1
[01:25] <artie> wawowe3, you mean combine the 2 lines you sent, so it's only a single line???
[01:25] <mz|`> b0llo: you should be kicked and banned.
[01:26] <mz|`> Tm_T please.
[01:26] <wawowe3> artie: i mean only do this: sudo cp -R /home/user1 /home/user2/Desktop/
[01:26] <Xpl01t> mz|`: why kick him? you guys from ubuntu seems to like to kick people instead help them =/
[01:27] <mz|`> go on its link
[01:27] <artie> ok, and user1 is the source desktop and user3 is the destination?
[01:27] <mz|`> Xpl01t: check before asking, please. we dont kick people without reason.
[01:28] <wawowe3> artie: yes, user1 = your cmdline only account    user2 = your gui account
[01:28] <Xpl01t> mz|`: i had been kicked without reason here =/
[01:28] <Xpl01t> sorry for saying the truth
[01:28] <mz|`> Xpl01t: your truth.
[01:28] <freedom4alll> zykotick9 wawowe3  the Debian guys just gave me a one liner for getting rid of Unity and installing xfce4.8. Is a long one line though http://pastebin.com/MZNhCGEg
[01:28] <wawowe3> it's because of all that dangerous curse that could break peoples os
[01:29] <wawowe3> cursing*
[01:29] <freedom4alll> =)
[01:29] <artie> shouldn't it be something like this????   sudo cp -R /home/user1/Desktop  /home/user2/Desktop/
[01:30] <wawowe3> artie: if you only what the files on the desktop then yes, the cmd i gave you will copy everything from the old account to the desktop on the new one though
[01:30] <mz|`> thanks to the ops.
[01:31] <wawowe3> freedom4alll: that'll do it too :)
[01:31] <artie> ok, ty....I have the source daccount well set up and tuned, so I only want to copy the desktop files. Do I need to be in any particular directory for this to work, or can I open a command line in any users account?????
[01:31] <Loshki> freedom4alll: that's a beauty. Are you gonna execute it? Got backups?
[01:31] <freedom4alll> I am doing it now. Ill let you know how it goes
[01:32] <zykotick9> Loshki: i particularly like that it's removing pae-kernel... among other things.
[01:33] <wawowe3> artie: no, anywhere will work
[01:33] <wawowe3> ...
[01:33] <artie> i'll try itr now, wish me luck!!!
[01:33] <wawowe3> it is removing pae isn't it
[01:34] <wawowe3> freedom4alll: run uname -r and paste the output
[01:36] <wawowe3> xubuntu-desktop probably depends on a kernel so it might not be an issue, unless you need pae
[01:38] <freedom4alll> NEAT it worked!
[01:38] <freedom4alll> going to play around with this a bit and make darn sure.
[01:39] <freedom4alll> Ah they got that cmd from here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[01:40] <wawowe3> freedom4alll: only removed kernel headers
[01:41] <freedom4alll> wawowe3 Linux sandbox 3.2.0-24-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 21 16:51:22 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[01:41] <wawowe3> read it wrong
[01:41] <lorddelta> Greetings: anyone know how to update the .XCompose file?
[01:42] <lorddelta> that is, re-read it
[01:42] <lorddelta> dpkg-reconfigure, am i right?
[01:42] <wawowe3> freedom4alll: good, then it doesn't affect you :)
[01:42] <freedom4alll> wawowe3 guess its all good
[01:42] <wawowe3> freedom4alll: yeah, you're not running pae
[01:43] <artie> wawowe3, ty, it worked perfectly!!!! many many tnx!!!!!
[01:43] <freedom4alll> was so feed up with Unity that I thought 'if it brakes then Ill just install Debian here too'
[01:43] <freedom4alll> nice artie =)
[01:43] <IdleOne>  lorddelta I believe it is: source filename
[01:44] <wawowe3> freedom4alll: yeah, i really tried to like it when i first used it..
[01:44] <lorddelta> IdleOne: Rly? As simple as that?
[01:44] <lauratika> what is the best way to clean my hard drive?
[01:44] <artie> users on this forum get the credit....alll I did was to type in the command line!!!!
[01:44] <IdleOne> lorddelta: if I understand your question, yes.
[01:44] <Loshki> freedom4alll: I'm impressed. Updates never quite work for me somehow. I always end up installing from scratch...
[01:44] <freedom4alll> wawowe3 me too but I just could not do it.
[01:45] <wawowe3> freedom4alll: same got annoyed real fast haha
[01:45] <freedom4alll> Loshki got to admit I was sure this would fail when I saw that list.
[01:45] <lorddelta> IdleOne: bash complains about that
[01:45] <IdleOne> lorddelta: you might need to logout and back in
[01:45] <freedom4alll> Loshki dont hate Ubuntu as much now =P
[01:45] <lorddelta> IdleOne: what I was trying to avoid
[01:45] <lauratika> im in ubuntu 12.04
[01:45] <IdleOne> lorddelta: yeah, I figured as much
[01:46] <freedom4alll> Oh cool I am installing ccsm like old gnome on this now =)))
[01:46] <freedom4alll> cube time
[01:46] <sin360> Evening everyone.  I am having some issues getting a wifi connection to an open network. I am using crystalbuntu it's a variation of 8.04.  I currently have it install on my apple tv. I can set it up with wpa2, but when I change the wpa_supplicant.conf for an open network it doesn't connect.
[01:47] <IdleOne> sin360: that variation is not supported here. I have never even heard of it to be honest.
[01:47] <IdleOne> sin360: best suggestion is to try their forums or see if they have an irc channel
[01:48] <sin360> ok thank you
[01:48] <lauratika> anyone know best way?
[01:49] <wawowe3> lauratika: what do you mean "clean your hard drive"
[01:49] <Loshki> sin360: http://forum.xbmc.org looks lively...
[01:49] <lauratika> clean it for old files,get extra space im not using,delete duplicates perhaps?
[01:50] <wawowe3> lauratika: do you know the names of your old files or a name they have in common?
[01:51] <lauratika> more like to cleaning hard drive for extra space
[01:51] <sin360> Loshki:Thanks I'm going to see if they have a channel.
[01:51] <lauratika> forget about duplicates,just want to clean up my hard drive
[01:51] <wylde_> lauratika:  ubuntutweak has a utility for that.
[01:52] <wawowe3> lauratika: if you have a bunch of files with the extention .old for instance you can do some thing like find /home/yourhome -name "*.old" -exec rm {} \;
[01:52] <lauratika> is there something i can do via terminal
[01:53] <wawowe3> lauratika: or if you're talking about the deb archives they are in /var
[01:53] <lauratika> wawowe3 i dont mind files, just want to get rid off everythinhg can make some space
[01:53] <lauratika> just wanna clean my hard drive
[01:53] <lauratika> clean it
[01:53] <wawowe3> lauratika: sudo apt-get autoclean
[01:53] <Loshki> !df | lauratika maybe one of these:
[01:54] <dcw329> hey
[01:54] <lauratika> autoclean and autoremove what would clean
[01:54] <wawowe3> lauratika: autoremove first
[01:54] <wylde_> lauratika: cleans out the apt cache
[01:55] <jabrone> hey guys, i want to install ubuntu
[01:55] <ryann-> hello!  i have a raid 1 here (of 2 disks) and one of my disks has failed.  i'll replace it tomorrow, but is there any way to boot the system on the remaining disk?
[01:55] <wawowe3> lauratika: autoremove removes packages that are orphaned dependencies of uninstalled packages
[01:56] <jabrone> i want to install ubuntu but my laptop's etherenet port dosen't work. I use wifi. How can I download the resterctired broadcom wifipackage onto the liveUSB so that I can install the wifi drivers without a network?
[01:56] <wawowe3> lauratika: autoclean removes debs from your system that aren't needed for a reinstall
[01:56] <Cerrdor> I just installed IRCd and got it up and running now where can I find a doc of how to add server admin and services?
[01:56] <lauratika> so i gues if i run autoremove and autoclean that will clean it a bit
[01:57] <lauratika> is there a way to test via terminal if the dvd is woring guys?
[01:57] <wawowe3> lauratika: if you don't think you'll ever need to reinstall you can remove all the debs from /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:57] <wawowe3> lauratika: that will probably give you a few gb
[01:57] <lauratika> what you mean with reinstall?
[01:58] <lauratika> like if i want to reinstall ubuntu again on this pc
[01:58] <wawowe3> lauratika: fix something on your system that broke somehow
[01:58] <wawowe3> lauratika: or install the exact same setup on another computer
[01:58] <KevinXih> hi
[01:58] <jabrone> can I download my wifi package and install it without a network connection first?
[01:58] <jabrone> like if I save it to a usb
[01:59] <IdleOne> jabrone: yes, from packages.ubuntu.com but you will also need to download all the dependencies
[02:00] <lauratika> oh,right now i have installed ubuntu on its own partition so i can do i clean install if needed is this what you mean
[02:00] <Cerrdor> ircd anyone?
[02:01] <wylde_> Cerrdor: try #ubuntu-server
[02:01] <wawowe3> lauratika: in your circumstance it's unlikely that you'll ever want those debs for anything
[02:02] <wawowe3> lauratika: i usually remove them and if i need to clone the system i do it with tar or cpio
[02:02] <lauratika> ok so if i delete them that will free space from partition a where ubuntu is installed or b where files are?
[02:02] <lauratika> how can i delete them?
[02:03] <wawowe3> lauratika: if you have ubuntu on it's own partition and your files on another then it won't free space on your files partition
[02:03] <lauratika> i see, best tool to see which files takes more space?
[02:04] <wawowe3> lauratika: find / -size 2G
[02:05] <wawowe3> lauratika: or something like this: find / -size +1G -exec du -h {} \;
[02:06] <wawowe3> lauratika: if your files are in /home/yourhome then replace "/" with "/home/yourhome"
[02:06] <jabrone> IdleOne: is there a way to make sure I download all the packages? do you know of a way to check?
[02:08] <wylde_> jabrone: the dependecies will be listed on the packages page.
[02:13] <tarside> Who can tell me that how to create dbg package? For example: libevent-dbg.
[02:14] <mz|`> oO
[02:15] <ryann> my grub is configured for quiet splash.. is there a key-combination that can be pressed at boot to see the text?
[02:15] <trism> tarside: if you just need the symbols, there are already debug packages here: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/libe/libevent/
[02:15] <wylde_> ryann: if you want the grub boot menu hold shift after bios, if you want to see the text after grub delete key should do it.
[02:15] <LittleBallOfHate> ryann: If there is, I've never figured it out and I have looked and looked.
[02:16] <ryann> ty wylde_ , but no dice with del after grub.
[02:17] <trism> tarside: or you can generally rebuild the package with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS='nostrip noopt', or you could pass the appropriate option to dh_strip if you really wanted modify the source to create the -dbg package
[02:17] <wawowe3> ryann: esc
[02:17] <wawowe3> LittleBallOfHate: esc
[02:17] <wylde_> ryann: OR if you want the splash off entirely, edit /etc/default/grub remove 'quiet splash' save and run sudo update-grub
[02:17] <LittleBallOfHate> wawowe3: plymouth is hooked so deep all I get is a black screen and no text when I hit esc
[02:17] <ryann> working my way back up to booting the system.. i will disable that later :)
[02:17] <freedom4alll> Wow  am so impressed with http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu it 100% turned my much hated Unity desktop to a very nice and working XFCE install. A real desktop again. JOY JOY =)
[02:17] <flowerpot> What is the difference between the following two packages? linux-headers-3.2.0-24-generic and linux-headers-3.2.0-24-generic-pae
[02:18] <flowerpot> I've tried looking at apt-cache show for each but I can't figure it out.
[02:18] <chimney> Hi, anyone an idea how big I should set the inode size for an raid 0 with two devices each 16GB, mostly for documents ?
[02:18] <ryann> esc does nothing.. still a purple screen
[02:18] <LittleBallOfHate> flowerpot: -pae
[02:18] <wawowe3> LittleBallOfHate: edit /etc/default/grub like wylde said and remove "quiet"
[02:18] <wylde_> !pae
[02:18] <flowerpot> LittleBallOfHate, which means?
[02:18] <LittleBallOfHate> wawowe3: done that too
[02:18] <flowerpot> ......but the pae version says it's for 64-bit systems?
[02:18] <LittleBallOfHate> flowerpot: physical address extensions. type uname -a and paste here
[02:19] <wylde_> flowerpot: 64 bit doesn't need pae
[02:19] <flowerpot> wylde, that's why I'm confused.
[02:19] <wawowe3> LittleBallOfHate: what about uncommenting "GRUB_TERMINAL=console"
[02:19] <freedom4alll> no it does not like wylde_ says
[02:19] <flowerpot> $ apt-cache show linux-headers-3.2.0-24-generic-pae | grep 64
[02:19] <flowerpot> Description-en: Linux kernel headers for version 3.2.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
[02:19] <flowerpot>  64 bit x86 SMP.
[02:19] <flowerpot> seems to be for 64 bit not 32 bit.
[02:20] <wylde_> flowerpot: SMP != PAE
[02:20] <LittleBallOfHate> !pae | flowerpot
[02:20] <flowerpot> then why does the package end with -pae?  I'm pretty confused
[02:20] <wawowe3> flowerpot: headers are not the kernel
[02:21] <flowerpot> Am  I the only one who's confused by the fact that you're saying PAE is for 32-bit systems, and apt-cache says this package is for 64-bit systems?
[02:21] <LittleBallOfHate> flowerpot: the package desc is wrong
[02:21] <flowerpot> that would explain it
[02:22] <wylde_> flowerpot: nice find, you should file a bug if that's the case then.
[02:22] <flowerpot> where would I do that? I care very little about this but i wouldn't mind reporting it
[02:22] <tarside> trism: thx.
[02:22] <wylde_> flowerpot: moment
[02:22] <LittleBallOfHate> flowerpot: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[02:23] <flowerpot> It's  just something I noticed while looking for something else
[02:23] <mz|`> flowerpot: so report it and help the community...
[02:23] <wylde_> flowerpot: well if it confused you it's very likely to be a problem for others.
[02:23] <chimney> Hi, anyone an idea how big I should set the inode size for an  raid 0 with two devices each 16GB, mostly for documents ?
[02:23] <LittleBallOfHate> flowerpot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[02:24] <flowerpot> I'll report it.....
[02:24] <flowerpot> because i am just a nice guy
[02:25] <wylde_> flowerpot: the community will appreciate it ;)
[02:25] <mz|`> flowerpot: thanks man
[02:26] <flowerpot> wylde, in exchnage, can you tell me the proper method to obtain the documentation for the linux kernel version 3.2.0-24-generic?  is it just apt-get source 3.2.0-24-generic ?
[02:26] <mz|`> the documentation is on kernel.org and ubuntu doc
[02:26] <wylde_> flowerpot: the documentation or the source? If you want the source that is correct
[02:26] <b|ackt0wer> Is there full support for the 2011 Macbook Pros?
[02:27] <b|ackt0wer> I couldn't find anything concerning the 8,2 MBPs on the Ubuntu page
[02:27] <flowerpot> I actually, specifically, want the current documentation that will tell me about netinet.h
[02:27] <flowerpot> for my kernel
[02:27] <tarside> trism:
[02:27] <tarside> I was doing:
[02:27] <tarside> 	tarside	1. apt-get source libevent-dev
[02:27] <tarside> 	tarside	2. apt-get build-dep libevent-dev
[02:27] <tarside> 	tarside	3. todo something....
[02:27] <FloodBot1> tarside: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:27] <tarside> 	tarside	4. sudo dpkg-buildpackage
[02:27] <wylde_> !find netinet.h
[02:27] <b|ackt0wer> DO NOT SPAM
[02:28] <b|ackt0wer> !!!!
[02:28] <wylde_> bah
[02:28] <trism> tarside: please use pastebin
[02:28] <flowerpot> sorry
[02:28] <flowerpot> netinet/in.h
[02:28] <flowerpot> !find in.h
[02:29] <flowerpot> that link leads to a page with no results :(
[02:30] <chimney> ok, someone in giving me a tip about inode-size?
[02:30] <wylde_> hmm
[02:30] <flowerpot> running "ubuntu-bug linux-headers-3.2.0-24-generic-pae" is telling me that the package doesn't exist -.-
[02:31] <wylde_> ... odd
[02:31] <chimney> I'm having problems with installing packages. packages lately can't authorized
[02:31] <bugaloo> guys, I have a sony vaio laptop running ubuntu 11.04... it doesn't recognize my headphones... I mean, the sound comes out from headphones, but it doesn't mute the speakers... does anyone have a clue how to fix it? even a lead where I can start from?
[02:32] <wylde_> flowerpot: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man7/in.h.7posix.html <--- possibly along the lines of what you want?
[02:33] <chimney> ok, goodbye
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> bugaloo, right click the sounds settings output headphones
[02:34] <bugaloo> wilee-nilee, it doesn't appear
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> bugaloo, where exactly?
[02:34] <bugaloo> it seems the OS doesn't separate speakers and headphones channels
[02:34] <bugaloo> or something like this
[02:34] <bugaloo> wilee-nilee, I've tried alsamixer too, on terminal
[02:34] <bugaloo> there is no headphone channel
[02:34] <flowerpot> wylde, I think so. t hanks
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> does on mine, in a right cllck the sound icon and follow the path I gave you.
[02:34] <wylde_> flowerpot: np
[02:35] <flowerpot> having trouble reporting this bug though :(
[02:35] <wylde_> flowerpot: yeah if you can maybe at least try poking someone in #ubuntu-bugs they should be able to assit
[02:35] <flowerpot> will do
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> bugaloo, http://imagebin.org/216727
[02:38] <bugaloo> yep, I dont have this connector :\
[02:38] <flowerpot> ...I can't even remember exactly why I wanted to look at those headers in the first place, now
[02:38] <mister_> lusers
[02:39] <flowerpot> Talk about yak shaving: http://projects.csail.mit.edu/gsb/old-archive/gsb-archive/gsb2000-02-11.html
[02:39] <wylde_> flowerpot: looking for the info you wanted perhaps?
[02:39] <flowerpot> forgot what info I wanted :(
[02:40] <bugaloo> wilee-nilee, I have a HP laptop here, and it doesn't mute when I plug the headphones, but I can go to alsamixer and mute the speakers at least, this is enough for me
[02:40] <punto> how do I upgrade from 10.4 to 12.4?
[02:40] <bugaloo> but I couldn't do it on the sony vaio
[02:40] <bugaloo> maybe it's something about the drivers, since my brightness control doesn't work either
[02:41] <ring0> punto, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades
[02:41] <sacarlson> punto: personaly I would setup a spare partition and install a fresh copy of 12.04 so you can go back if needed
[02:41] <flowerpot> wylde, I remember now.  I just wanted to see how INADDR_ANY was defined because I saw it being used in some code involving internet sockets and was curious.
[02:42] <marc_12314> just realized that  "shutdown -h" will stop everything but the computer power stay on… what good is that? why would someone want to shutdown the server but leave the power?
[02:42] <flowerpot> marc_12314, it should halt the computer, which should leave the power off....how do you know the power is still on?
[02:42] <wylde_> flowerpot:  ahh I see. By that definition I must have shaved many many yaks in my time :)
[02:42] <flowerpot> it's a side effect of curiosity :(
[02:43] <marc_12314> flowerpot: case fan are running and psu also...
[02:43] <ring0> marc_12314, use "shutdown -h -P now" instead
[02:44] <flowerpot> ring0, interesting...I always thought the power was shut off automatically...why is there a separate option for power?  what purpose does that serve to make it possible?
[02:44] <marc_12314> ring0: I always do  "shutdown -P now"… but wanted to know what use is the  -h  option… I'm only using linux at home,… maybe there's some reason for that in production, just wondering what they are (can't find anything online about that)
[02:44] <punto> fuck that, if I set up a partition it's for windows
[02:45] <RED_Pyro> yolo
[02:45] <ring0> marc_12314, i'd take a look in the manpage of shutdown
[02:45] <Jordan_U> !language | punto
[02:45] <RED_Pyro> Hmm
[02:46] <marc_12314> ring0: already did but  "Requests that the system be either halted or powered off after it has been brought down, with the choice as to which left up to the system."  don't really tell me why it would leave the power on :P
[02:46] <ring0> marc_12314, flowerpot, ask the shutdown developers :)
[02:47] <bugaloo> marc_12314, could be a mistake, but sometimes someone has a need that you wouldn't imagine hehe
[02:47] <RED_Pyro> How is everyone
[02:47] <sacarlson> marc_12314: I think it posibly due to some systems don't support acpi that I guess is in bios to shut off power
[02:48] <marc_12314> bugaloo: and that's exactly why I came here to ask :D
[02:48] <RED_Pyro> :<
[02:48] <ccolorado> how can I create a bootable usb from an iso, on linux, I only keep finding windows applications
[02:48] <bugaloo> marc_12314, let me think a bit... hehee
[02:49] <marc_12314> RED_Pyro: umadbro?
[02:49] <marc_12314> :D
[02:49] <bugaloo> hehe
[02:49] <RED_Pyro> marc_12314 is a spy!
[02:49] <ring0> ccolorado, depending on the iso you could use dd or unetbootin
[02:49] <bugaloo> marc_12314,  maybe  you dont want to use your computer, but you need to keep the power on to charge your cell using a usb port heheheh
[02:50] <marc_12314> ccolorado: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu  ?
[02:50] <ccolorado> marc_12314: thanks
[02:51] <marc_12314> bugaloo: lol, didn't think of that one. good idea for those USBCell batteries :P
[02:51] <bugaloo> see? :D lol
[02:51] <RED_Pyro> marc_12314: BI
[02:51] <marc_12314> bugaloo: but talk about _not_ being "green"
[02:51] <bugaloo> ccolorado, what ubuntu are you using?
[02:54] <RED_Pyro> ugh
[02:54] <HelloWorld321> I'm having trouble with my video card.  I removed my incorrect nVidia drivers, and I understand that my correct Intel drivers are built into the kernal, so there's no need to install them?
[02:55] <HelloWorld321> but I'm still getting the "you will have to configure them yourself" message on bootup.
[02:55] <Cerrdor> is there an unrealircd channel on freenode?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> I have several PC's with 'always powered on USB ports' that i can use to charge stuff even if the pc is turned off.
[02:56] <bugaloo> Dr_Willis, cool... didn't even know it would exist hehe
[02:56] <HelloWorld321> Dr_Willis: that would come in handy for me.  I had no idea you could do that.  Just set it in the Bios to always powered USB ?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> !alis | Cerrdor
[02:56] <marc_12314> RED_Pyro:   BI ??
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> HelloWorld321: On one laptop i have - just 1 of the 2 usb ports are that way. On this other PC i think all the ports are that way.
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> HelloWorld321:  May be bios settings to disable/enable it.
[02:57] <HelloWorld321> Do you have to buy them that way?  or is it a BIOS setting?
[02:57] <HelloWorld321> k
[02:57] <RED_Pyro> marc_12314: nothing
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> I just noticed i had a usb "light" for a laptop that would always stay on depending onthe port i was plugged into.
[02:57] <HelloWorld321> oic
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> I even have a "Chumby" Desk Clock/Picture Frame Gizmo with USB ports I use as a Charger.
[02:58] <ulidtko> hey guys, how do I force dhclient to not reuse the address from last lease? I want it to go through a full DHCPDISCOVER. /var/lib/dhcp/ has been cleared out, but it persists to use DHCPREQUEST of the older address.
[02:58] <nbjoerg> I'm running xubuntu 12.04 using a non-deadkey layout. switching to the console with Alt-Control-F1 and back to X changes the layout to something *with* dead keys. how do I disable that and what is the source?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Even my Router has usb port for a shared HD. that i can use as a charger. Seen Wall outlets with USB charger ports also these days.
[02:58] <spartan7> I have a dual monitor setup. Unity dock is showing on both. Is there a way to only show 1?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> My New MiniVan has 2 usb ports I can charge with. :)
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> spartan7:  its a setting in the MOnitors/Display tool i recall
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> spartan7:  Top Right Cog Menu -> Displays
[03:00] <HelloWorld321> so about my video driver .... mind taking a look at my Xorg.0.log at http://pastebin.com/XCSJrXVA ?  My ubuntu box won't boot to X, but tells me that I have to configure my video drivers instead.
[03:00] <Kentrel> Hey, how do I securely automate certain things in bash scripts that require a password. I don't want to put the password in the bash script
[03:00] <Kentrel> But I also don't want to have to be there everytime a password is required
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Kentrel:  depends on what the script is doing.
[03:00] <wylde_> Kentrel: the folks in #bash might have a few good ideas
[03:00] <murilos> Hello
[03:00] <HelloWorld321> I know this one: Kentrel, that's ssh, and you can stash a certificate for password-less logins
[03:00] <Kentrel> Willis, mixture of things. Backing up a mysql database, opening a truecrypt container, etc
[03:01] <spartan7> Dr_Willis: You are right, but I'm running a desktop and it is showing 1 big laptop screen for both. How can I change to the other monitor?
[03:01] <murilos> Only english here?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> Kentrel:  'sudo scriptname' and enter password once perhaps...
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> spartan7:  whats your video card/chipset?
[03:01] <nbjoerg> Kentrel: check if the application supports reading the password from gnome-keyring or file descriptor
[03:01] <HelloWorld321> !en
[03:01] <spartan7> nvidia
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> spartan7:  use the nvidia drivers, and the nvidia-settings toolt o enable 'twinview'
[03:02] <nbjoerg> Kentrel: for ssh, ssh-agent or password less keys are also an option
[03:02] <homelessman> he;;p
[03:03] <homelessman> hello
[03:03] <RED_Pyro> hi
[03:03] <spartan7> Dr_Willis: already enabled TwinView
[03:04] <HelloWorld321> so after my Pangolin upgrade, my Ubuntu boots to a message telling me that I need to configure my video drivers myself.  How do I do that?
[03:04] <spartan7> Dr_Willis: I do only have 1 just want to move it to other monitor.
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> spartan7:  I have nvidia, twinview, and use my 2 monitors as one wide desktop. Or i can enable them as 2 seperate X displays.. never needed to do that. So whats the exact issue?
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> spartan7:  You want the Panel on monitor 2 instead of 1?
[03:05] <spartan7> Dr_Willis: yes
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> never noticed anything for that spartan7. Mines on the left side Monitor where it should be. ;)
[03:05] <fishbait> okay i have windows 7 in a vmware in ubuntu it said there could be issues with my graphics card anyone got more details than that?
[03:06] <homelessman> I know this is probably a commonly-complained issue but I'm having trouble with playing video ubuntu. On Windows 7 and 8 CP I can play full 1080p but on Ubuntu it's like I'm playing a flash video, which is another issue. Video on 720p+ will not play in flash, H.264 and html5 video. My graphics card has the correct drivers. What can I do?
[03:06] <spartan7> Dr_Willis: I got 1 dock now. It will do until I find something in the forums. Thank you very much for the tip. 2 docks were driving me crazy
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> spartan7:  people over look the displays tools. :) expecially us nvidia users thatuse Nvidia-settings for all the configuring instead
[03:07] <ccolorado> bugaloo: bugaloo 12.04
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> homelessman:  Hmm. Whats your video card? I have no issues with 1080p videos here.
[03:08] <spartan7> Dr_Willis: yea that was me. Going to logout login to see if the monitor switch takes. thanks again
[03:08] <HelloWorld321> Would you mind telling me the next step in my video configuration if I pastebin my Xorg.0.log ?
[03:08] <sapiens_> hello
[03:08] <homelessman> it's an ati radeon X1650 pro. I know it's an old card but it works fine in OS X and Windows
[03:08] <homelessman> And now F17 too
[03:09] <fishbait> ... does no one know?
[03:09] <sapiens_> I am trying to compile OpenEaagles and I got an internal compiler error,,, how could I overcome that?
[03:09] <ulidtko2> sapiens_: what compiler are you using?
[03:10] <ulidtko2> what's it version?
[03:10] <sapiens_> ulidtko, I have GTK installed... but it occurs when I use make
[03:10] <ryannathans> what linux program shhould i use to view canon .CR2 RAW images, if there are multiple i need to know the one of smallest download size
[03:10] <sapiens_> version 2...
[03:10] <mangdood> How can I mount an ext4 partition on LiveCD if I don't have it in fstab?
[03:11] <ulidtko2> sapiens_: enter gcc --version in a terminal
[03:11] <sapiens_> ok
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> mangdood:  sudo mount /dev/whatever /media/makeadir
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> !mount | mangdood
[03:11] <sapiens_> ulidtko2, 4.5.2
[03:11] <genii-around> ryannathans: Probably gimp-dcraw plugin
[03:11] <ryannathans> genii-around: thanks, i'll check it out
[03:11] <sapiens_> ulidtko2, ... I run Ubuntu 11.04 on a beagleboard
[03:12] <ulidtko2> oowwh
[03:12] <sapiens_> ;)
[03:12] <sapiens_> lol
[03:12] <ulidtko2> beagleboard isn't x86, right?
[03:12] <genii-around> ARM
[03:12] <ulidtko2> you need to report the crash
[03:12] <sapiens_> nop
[03:12] <sapiens_> :(
[03:12] <ulidtko2> at bugzilla.gnu.org
[03:12] <ulidtko2> or wherever it is...
[03:12] <mangdood> Dr_Willis: whoooops.
[03:13] <fishbait> okay i have windows 7 in a vmware in ubuntu it said there could be issues with my graphics card anyone got more details than that?
[03:13] <ryannathans> genii-around: do you know the 'friendly' name in the gimp plugin browser?
[03:13] <ulidtko2> sapiens_: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs/
[03:13] <sapiens_> ok
[03:14] <sapiens_> they will do something in what frame of time?
[03:14] <genii-around> ryannathans: Not offhand, sorry
[03:14] <ulidtko2> sapiens_: you could try to report that at launchpad for ubuntu specifically, but that's not very promising
[03:14] <ulidtko2> sapiens_: uhh "something" in a several months probably :)
[03:14] <sapiens_> lol
[03:15] <sapiens_> ok... so I might forget this solution for my project ;)
[03:15] <sapiens_> damn it
[03:15] <sapiens_> lol
[03:15] <ulidtko2> try 12.04 maybe?
[03:15] <ulidtko2> it has newer gcc
[03:15] <ulidtko2> there's a chance the crash was fixed there
[03:15] <sapiens_> yes, but I wont have access to OpenSceneGraph
[03:15] <ryannathans> genii-around: meh, apt-get found her
[03:16] <sapiens_> it's not built for this version of Ubuntu
[03:16] <sapiens_> on the arm
[03:16] <ulidtko2> man it's opensource right?
[03:16] <ulidtko2> build it yourself
[03:17] <sapiens_> build what?
[03:17] <ulidtko2> osg
[03:17] <sapiens_> what do you mean by build it yourself?
[03:18] <sapiens_> dont you need to have the source?
[03:18] <ulidtko2> yes you do
[03:18] <ulidtko2> http://www.openscenegraph.org/projects/osg/wiki/Downloads
[03:19] <ulidtko2> is this the right page?
[03:19] <ulidtko2> i can see source code downloads there, can you?
[03:19] <ryannathans> genii-around: naww, doesn't fully support my format, it opens but is distorted and has strange colours
[03:19] <ryannathans> genii-around: thanks anywaty
[03:20] <genii-around> Hm
[03:20] <sapiens_> ulidtko, ... are the libs la libopenscenegraph65 include in this?
[03:20] <WeThePeople> what is this.. E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:20] <loneclock> what is the command to access windows files in ubuntu?
[03:20] <ulidtko> sapiens_, yeah they should be there
[03:20] <WeThePeople> and this.. E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:21] <sapiens_> ulidtko, :) Nice, then I'll give a try... so an other 8-10 hours of install and compile lol
[03:21] <sapiens_> I so hope it works lol
[03:21] <genii-around> WeThePeople: It probably means you should use sudo before the command
[03:21] <ulidtko> sapiens_: well, good luck!
[03:21] <sapiens_> thanks :)
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> if an older version is in the repos. it makes it a bit easier to compiler newer versions
[03:22] <sapiens_> If it doesn't work... I'd have prove it ;)
[03:22] <andrewh192> Hey, I have a question regarding installing the latest version of Ubuntu on my Intel Pentium R Laptop
[03:23] <andrewh192> I tried to run the disk after I burned it from a iso file, and it came up saying something about having to use the right kernal for my cpu.
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> You are not using the 64bit cd on a 32bit cpu are you?
[03:24] <andrewh192> well, I am not sure. i didn't know intel pentium r computers could be 64 bit
[03:24] <andrewh192> i thought they all were 32bit
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> and whats the name of the ISO file you used?
[03:25] <andrewh192> ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> that would be a 32bit iso then.
[03:25] <andrewh192> ok, so u think maybe if i tried to download the 64bit version and burning it to a cd and trying it, that it would work?
[03:25] <ryannathans> probably want i686 or something, i had the same problem once, had to use something that actually supported the arch
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> a Pentium R is a 'Pentium 1? 2? 3?
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> 32bit iso should work on 64bit cpus
[03:26] <genii-around> ryannathans: There seems to be also gimp-ufraw
[03:27] <andrewh192> Dr_Willis I am not sure what pentium R is
[03:27] <ryannathans> genii-around: i'll check that out too, thanks
[03:27] <andrewh192> all i know its a pentium 1.6ghz
[03:28] <loneclock> what is the command to mount my windows partition in ubuntu?
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> you could use mount, or ntfs-3g with the right options loneclock
[03:29] <andrewh192> ok, well thanx Dr_Willis
[03:29] <andrewh192> will hopefully see ya on the flipside... :-)
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> andrewh192:  32bit cd should work on any cpu.
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> well any intel cpu. :) except for the old old ole ones..
[03:30] <andrewh192> Dr_Willis ok.. well, do u think that it might be it? cause its not a dual core i don't believe
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> andrewh192:  dual core shouldent matter. as far as i know
[03:30] <andrewh192> ok
[03:30] <andrewh192> hmmmm
[03:30] <andrewh192> puzzling...
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> On that low end a box. you might want to be using Lubuntu also.  Unless theres somthign weord witha  pent R.
[03:31] <ziz212> dear friends , doses ubantu carries any other place except /etc/init.d to hold startup files
[03:31] <dcw329> hey!
[03:31] <benwalburn> is there a way I can keep my computer from hibernating when the battery gets low? My charger/battery is fried, so it hibernates whenever it gets unplugged, even for a second
[03:31] <dcw329> im trying to set up an ssh connection from one computer to another
[03:31] <dcw329> any tips?
[03:32] <ziz212> because i cant find my squd startup file in /etc/init.d but when issue serveice squid start it works
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> Quick Google/Wiki hit shows a "Pentium (R)" is a "Pentium" The R  is for reguestered Trade Mark. :)
[03:32] <andrewhi192> ok
[03:32] <kanliot> dcw329, read the wiki on ssh
[03:32] <kanliot> help.ubuntu.com
[03:32] <andrewhi192> kewl
[03:32] <andrewhi192> Lubuntu
[03:32] <andrewhi192> ok.. thanx
[03:32] <ziz212> dear friends , doses ubantu carries any other place except /etc/init.d to hold startup files
[03:32] <ziz212> because i cant find my squd startup file in /etc/init.d but when issue serveice squid start it works
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> ziz212:  ubuntu uses upstart for most services.
[03:33] <din> ziz212: /etc/rc.local?
[03:34] <WeThePeople> when is the next LTS coming out
[03:34] <ziz212> where is upstart dir
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[03:34] <ziz212> because i am mostly use centos
[03:34] <Dr_Willis>  /etc/init/ i belive ziz212
[03:34] <PatrickStar> What are the features of Ubuntu 12.10?
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> some upstart services handle the older sysv type services also. so you rarely notice the 2
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> are differnt
[03:35] <genii-around> PatrickStar: Instability
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> PatrickStar:  updated eveyrthing. Unity, and gnome-3
[03:35] <Silvaar> Does it come with that amazing new Gnome shell?
[03:35] <HelloWorld321> the last LTS just came out, and LTS are scheduled every 2 years (with semi-annual releases in between)
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> !find mysql.conf
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> locate mysql.conf
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> /etc/init/mysql.conf
[03:36] <PatrickStar> That's it?
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> PatrickStar:  there are release docs and blog sites with details  and reviews..
[03:36] <PatrickStar> Man, they're struggling packing a lot into these half-year releases.
[03:36] <din> i am not a fan of gnome-shell. i prefer openbox or xfce.
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> !lts
[03:37] <ziz212> here i am searching my ubantu version is 10.0
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> They tend to be a bit consertive on LTS. but it depends on the features
[03:37] <ziz212> and i cant find updtart
[03:37] <ziz212> upstart
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> ziz212:  10.04 ?
[03:37] <PatrickStar> KDE was horrible.
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> !10.04
[03:37] <ziz212> 10.10
[03:37] <PatrickStar> I regreted it.
[03:38] <PatrickStar> regretted*
[03:38] <din> PatrickStar: /agree
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> use what you want. trivial to switch.
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[03:38] <PatrickStar> So... other than Unity, what's a good shell?
[03:38] <Tux> LXDE ;)
[03:38] <din> Dr_Willis: also /agree
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> gnome-shell is the other 'shell' for gnome 3
[03:38] <ziz212> nothing called upstart dir
[03:39] <ziz212> in etc/init or init.d
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> /etc/init/mysql.conf
[03:39] <ziz212> then how my service start
[03:39] <din> PatrickStar: openbox
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> i dont recall seeing a upstart Directory.. upstart is a replacement for tye SysV init system
[03:40] <Dr_Willis>  on 12.04 mysql is an upstart service managed by the .conf i mentioned above
[03:40] <ziz212> ok thanks but i need the location of squid start up scipt or else hint pls
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> try 'locate squid'
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> thought you said mysql. :)
[03:42] <ziz212> locate: can not stat () `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': No such file or directory
[03:42] <marc_12314> sudo updatedb
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> sudo updatedb, then locate squid
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> weird theres no mlocate.db this a clean install?
[03:43] <marc_12314> aargh, might not be a good idea to have 2 raid1 created at the same time..…. resync =  0.3% (6404608/1953512336) finish=1783.0min
[03:43] <Loshki> ziz212: or look in /etc and /usr/local...
[03:44] <jagginess> marc_12314, it's not exact the time estimate.. it'll jump when it gets to 50%
[03:45] <marc_12314> jagginess: ah, good to know!
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> then go in reverse... ;)
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> always amuseing when those file copy/dialog progress meters get alomost done.... then jump to another dialog/yet another meter....
[03:46] <jagginess> ziz212, find the cron job for locate and run that.. it has the paths to exclude instead of simply running updatedb as root
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> or actually go down. ;)
[03:47] <marc_12314> Dr_Willis: or get stuck at 100% for 10 minutes… o_O
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> seen gnome file copy dialogs do that. ;)
[03:48] <marc_12314> this one was hard to beat:  http://www.neilturner.me.uk/shots/102percent.png
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> Hmm 'sudo updatedb' should still use the updatedb.conf file and exclude the same dirs.
[03:50] <lorddelta> Dr_Willis: I noticed that about the progress meters too...it used to be a joke that Windows people couldn't figure out how to display percentage completions, but it seems like this has pervaded to Linux too...
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> the 102% i imagine is due to some error in the downloading of the data. causeing the app to download more then the size it was expecting
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> had to redownload some data.
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> whats more annoying is the use of completion dialogs % stuff when theres no way they can really know the time/% :)
[03:52] <lorddelta> Yeah.
[03:52] <reisio> nothing wrong with an average, though
[03:52] <lorddelta> They could just use completion trees.
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> ive seen many that are just fake info..
[03:52] <Nicekiwi> when using BASH on console, useing the CD command, how do you go BACK one directory?
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> Nicekiwi:  cd ..
[03:53] <Nicekiwi> in windows ud use cd..
[03:53] <Nicekiwi> oh..
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> bash FUNdamentals
[03:53] <reisio> heh
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> windows trains you to be lazy and not use spaces when you should be doing so.....
[03:53] <Nicekiwi> Dr_Willis: haha one lil space deciving me all this time :P
[03:53] <lorddelta> ...in fact I imagine that could be implemented from top to bottom.
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> had to 'hammer' that into several dos/windows users in the past.
[03:53] <Nicekiwi> Dr_Willis: thanks :)
[03:53] <reisio> Nicekiwi: you use 'cd..' in Windows?
[03:53] <Nicekiwi> reisio: yeah
[03:53] <reisio> weird
[03:54] <marc_12314> Dr_Willis: if I remember correctly it was something about the servers not always giving the correct "expected size" for download
[03:54] <lorddelta> Everytime something happens in bash, recurse down the completion "tree", when that process returns, complete.
[03:54] <lorddelta> It is what processes do in the kernel to some extent anywho.
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> marc_12314:  1024 vs 1000 for mb/kb/whatever :) perhaps also
[03:55] <lorddelta> Anyways, I'll ask again: are there any xkb tools (like xkbcomp) that let me reload my Xcompose configuration?
[03:55] <marc_12314> need to get some sleep, goodnight ppl!
[03:57] <lorddelta> I know there's mkcomposecache, but it doesn't seem like its even in the repos.
[03:57] <lorddelta> Despite being a bit overly complicated.
[03:58] <Nicekiwi> when I try to use the SU command in BASH is says: "su: Authentication failure" <---- why?
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> Nicekiwi:  what are you using su for?
[03:59] <Nicekiwi> Dr_Willis: editing apache files, i know i can just use sudo, but all the tutorials seem to want u to use SU
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> Nicekiwi:  use sudo...
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> you dont 'su -' to get to root in ubuntu
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo -s' or 'sudo -s' to get a root shell
[04:00] <Nicekiwi> Dr_Willis: oh? :P joys of fedora ha ha
[04:00] <Nicekiwi> Cool thanks :)
[04:00] <genii-around> I like sudo -i
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> which is why i asked what you were using su for. ;)
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> about once a week we get someone n here all mad because they cant use 'su -' or other weird wayt to get a root shell
[04:01] <reisio> you can use su in Ubuntu, but people will yell at you for setting a bad example for all the other distros that already use it :p
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> you can use su. but to switch to other non-root users. ;)
[04:01] <reisio> you can use it to switch to root, too
[04:01] <Nicekiwi> ahhhh
[04:01] <reisio> :D
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> only if you set a root password.. but thats a no-no ;P
[04:02] <reisio> it's a no-no according to ops in this channel, yup
[04:02] <wylde_> !root
[04:02]  * Dr_Willis waits for some overly done 'this is how i get a root shell' frankenstein command...
[04:02] <reisio> oh look, spam
[04:02] <Toph2> doesn't 'su' switch you to root?
[04:02] <reisio> Toph2: yes, read Dr_Willis' second to last msg
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> su does more then 'switch to root'
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> it can do more :)
[04:03]  * Nicekiwi dances to an invisible beat
[04:03] <reisio> Dr_Willis: sudo does as well
[04:03] <reisio> big uwhoop
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> sudo does MUCH more then su ;)
[04:03] <reisio> it does on Ubuntu :p
[04:03] <reisio> it's meant to do much less, however
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/
[04:04] <reisio> that's a website all right, yup
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/intro.html
[04:04] <reisio> what about it?
[04:04] <reisio> Dr_Willis: I got a link for you: http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/readme.html first paragraph
[04:04] <reisio> entirely at odds with Ubuntu's use of sudo
[04:05] <reisio> didn't read much of that site, did you?
[04:05] <andrewhi192> hey, what's the room for help setting up a user in freenode?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> andrewhi192:  #freenode perhaps
[04:05] <reisio> andrewhi192: #freenode
[04:05] <andrewhi192> gotcha
[04:05] <reisio> andrewhi192: or /msg nickserv help register
[04:05] <andrewhi192> ok
[04:05] <reisio> andrewhi192: or /msg nickserv help identify
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> I dont rally see how the first paragraph is at odds with ubuntu reisio . but its getting OT.
[04:06] <andrewhi192> ok
[04:06] <andrewhi192> thanx guys
[04:06] <reisio> Dr_Willis: okay the second sentence of the first paragraph
[04:06] <reisio> andrewhi192: ok :)
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> seems totally in line.. but whatever.
[04:08] <jagginess> Dr_Willis, yeah whatever.. sudo su -
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> jagginess:  toss in a 'bash' also. ;)
[04:09] <reisio> Dr_Willis: you think giving a non-root user complete root access is 'as few privileges as possible'? :p
[04:09] <reisio> complete, as few
[04:09] <reisio> this is what I'm talking about with 'at odds' :p
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> so you want the only admin user to not have full root access?
[04:11] <reisio> Dr_Willis: what's an admin user? :p
[04:11] <wylde_> it could also be viewed as a "failsafe" against inexperienced users hosing their systems by "forgetting" the were in a root shell.
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> but this is getting to be another one of those obscure sudo threads.
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> its always a good idea to have a root shell prompt thats differnt in easy to see ways.
[04:12] <reisio> what's the root shell prompt in Ubuntu?
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> I recall a compiz plugin that would put (root) in the title of windows running as root also.
[04:12] <arash> Hello :-)
[04:12] <reisio> root@hostname #?
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  yep.
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> should be flashing red. :)
[04:13] <reisio> and you think newbs know what that means? :p
[04:13] <reisio> arash: hi
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> newbs wouldent know what root means in any case.
[04:14] <reisio> so you're just talking with yourself :p
[04:14] <b0llo> #ubuntu How do i log in as root?
[04:15] <sumpygump> Well, you do have to type in your password when you invoke sudo or gksudo so it does give the user a sense of "going into serious mode."
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> Flashing Lights and Skulls and crossbones optional
[04:16] <kanliot> b0llo, i don't think you can login as root.  that's debian
[04:16] <arash> how to login as root ?
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> arash:  use sudo and gksudo as needed.
[04:16] <arash> go to terminal -> type sudo -i -> enter your password
[04:17] <murilos> Hello
[04:17] <Toph2> when I plug in my usb memory stick, it always comes up 'read-only'. How do I change that?
[04:17] <murilos> Anyone here, works With TI?
[04:17] <b0llo> How do I activate the root account?
[04:17] <murilos> Ubuntu Servers?
[04:17] <murilos> orDebian Servers?
[04:17] <kanliot> is there a button on the stick?
[04:18] <Toph2> kancerman,,, no
[04:18] <Toph2> kanliot,,, rather
[04:18] <andrewhi192> alright guys, going to try lubuntu. wish me luck
[04:19] <wolfgang> How do i find out how much ram my comp can handle if i were to upgrade?
[04:20] <wolfgang> Hello?
[04:20] <kanliot> wolfgang, you need to look at the specifications for your pc
[04:20] <wolfgang> How i have been asking for hours no one will tell me
[04:20] <wolfgang> HOW
[04:21] <wolfgang> i have been looking at my model and stuff
[04:21] <kanliot> well i would google my motherboard
[04:21] <wolfgang> i don't know my mother board
[04:21] <wylde_> wolfgang: consult the manual for your motherboard.
[04:21] <wolfgang> 8 years old lost manual
[04:21] <reisio> wolfgang: crack open your computer, find model #, find manual online
[04:21] <reisio> whoohooo!
[04:21] <jagginess> wolfgang, what is the modelboard?
[04:22] <reisio> BIOS matters, too
[04:22] <wolfgang> WHAT?
[04:22] <kanliot> he probably has a dell with special ram chips
[04:22] <reisio> que?
[04:22] <wolfgang> no
[04:22] <reisio> "special" as in Delly? :p
[04:22] <wolfgang> vaio sony
[04:22] <reisio> wolfgang: laptop?
[04:22] <wolfgang> desktop
[04:22] <kanliot> is it a sony vio 1234?
[04:22] <reisio> fun
[04:22] <Habstinat> are atheists allowed on this channel?
[04:22] <kanliot> no
[04:22] <reisio> wolfgang: I imagine sony.com would know, then
[04:23] <jagginess> wolfgang, sony is cheap to opensource.. you'll have problems with powersaving and it's auxiliary function keys (maybe the trackpad as well)
[04:23] <reisio> Habstinat: only if they worship the one true God
[04:23] <wolfgang> VGC-RB42G
[04:23] <arash> one question : what is the default root password ?
[04:23] <b0llo> How do I activate the root account?
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> arash:  there is none.
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> !root
[04:23] <jagginess> arash, no such a thing as a "default" password in linux.. that'll be totally dumb
[04:23] <reisio> yes, realize what Dr_Willis just said, that there isn't one
[04:23] <Tiktalik> i just installed ubuntu minimal
[04:24] <reisio> I'm sure you thought "LIESSSS!!", right?
[04:24] <Tiktalik> how do I get a DE set up
[04:24] <jagginess> (maybe for sume database applications and php projects, but not the core of linux)
[04:24] <reisio> jagginess: can you be stupid somewhere else?
[04:24] <arash> u know jagginess , my terminal on IOS (Ipodtouch) has a default root password
[04:24] <wolfgang> for root type "sudo -i" then type your admin pass
[04:24] <reisio> like Swaziland?
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> Tiktalik:  install one of the desktop meta packagesis the easy way
[04:24] <wolfgang> in terminal
[04:24] <arash> which is alpine :) so I thought that ubuntu might have one too
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> Tiktalik:  what desktop do you want to use?
[04:24] <jagginess> arash, well this isn't IOS.
[04:24] <Tiktalik> Kubuntu!
[04:24] <reisio> arash: Ubuntu takes issue with this normal approach to things :p
[04:24] <wolfgang> Can i have a simple non techish person answer how do i find out?
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> Tiktalik:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop    should pull in all the needed files
[04:25] <reisio> arash: Dr_Willis' bot's link explain how to get it (waaaayyyy down the page)
[04:25] <jagginess> reisio, go help arash with his apple products. and I do think relating apple products here is stupid.
[04:25] <jagginess> tsk
[04:25] <Tiktalik> thanks
[04:25] <reisio> jagginess: yeah, but since all you ever do is type nonsense... :p
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> wolfgang:  find out what? I missed the question
[04:25] <reisio> wolfgang: sony.com knows
[04:25] <jagginess> get a life reisio.
[04:25] <wylde_> wolfgang: did you not just tell us it's a sony vaio and type in a model number?   put those togerther and you have what you need to search for
[04:25] <jagginess> I have a sony vaio laptop and sony is "cheap" to opensource.
[04:25] <wolfgang> How do i find out how much ram my comp can handle if i were to upgrade?
[04:25] <jagginess> Sony vaios are bad choice for linux.
[04:26] <reisio> jagginess: no lives are dumb!
[04:26] <reisio> wolfgang: sony.com knows
[04:26] <arash> !root
[04:26] <wolfgang> sony.com doesn't know
[04:26] <reisio> arash: it's just over half way down the page
[04:26] <guest_1302479> they shouldn't be allowed to have a website anymore
[04:26] <reisio> arash: if we told you in here the ops would have a little tantrum, you see
[04:26] <wylde_> wolfgang: your question is offtopic for this channel anyway. You should harass...errr ask the people in #hardware
[04:26] <Tiktalik> Dr_Willis: Is there a way to gget a more minimal kde install?
[04:26] <reisio> wolfgang: yes it does
[04:26] <arash> yes
[04:27] <wolfgang> wylde_, i did they sent me here
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> Tiktalik:  no idea.  install the specific apps i guess.
[04:27] <wolfgang> Dr_Willis, How do i find out how much ram my comp can handle if i were to upgrade?
[04:27] <Tiktalik> dangit. :(
[04:28] <wylde_> wolfgang:  determining you hardware capabilities and options relates to ubuntu support how?
[04:28] <b0llo> How do I activate the root account?
[04:28] <arash> b0llo ?!
[04:28] <arash> sudo -i on terminal
[04:28] <wolfgang> I don't know they did because i have ubuntu
[04:28] <wolfgang> i think
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> Tiktalik:  I did see some alternative QT desktop that was sort of a mini-light kde. in that it used the same libs at least. :) but i forget its name.
[04:29] <arash> you can also go to universal terminal 1 and use root by ctrl+alt+F1
[04:29] <arash> remember turning back to GUI is with control+alt+f7
[04:29] <wylde_> wolfgang:  wrong. It in no way relates to ubuntu support. Go search Sony support for your model number and read.
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> Tiktalik:  http://razor-qt.org/
[04:30] <Tiktalik> I don't have a running WM or DE, silly!
[04:30] <wolfgang> is there an easyer way?
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> Tiktalik:   like i can see your room?
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> and you can install a text based browser if you wanted to.
[04:31] <Tiktalik> Dr_Willis: I said I installed ubuntu minimal...
[04:31] <Tiktalik> lol
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> Tiktalik:  you dident say you were on the same pc. or only had one pc.. or were not ircing from a differnt pc...
[04:31] <Tiktalik> oh.
[04:31] <wolfgang> ->
[04:31] <Tiktalik> point
[04:32] <TwentySeven> Hey, Im hoping some one can help me install RadeonHD graphics drivers
[04:33] <b0llo> How do I activate the root account?
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> b0llo:  you dont.
[04:33] <bugaloo> b0llo, you just use sudo
[04:33]  * Dr_Willis closes the ticket
[04:34] <wolfgang> Beh
[04:34] <bugaloo> b0llo, but if you really want to do this (you shouldn't) you can just set a password
[04:34] <wolfgang> WEll i give up im leaving
[04:34] <jagginess> wolfgang, quitter.
[04:34] <TwentySeven> Is that a no, then?
[04:34] <jagginess> b0llo, why do you want root access? you can damage your system if you're new to linux
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> TwentySeven:  i just run the addational-drivers tool normally
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[04:35] <reisio> jagginess: shhh
[04:36] <TwentySeven> Says there arent any proprietary drivers.
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> TwentySeven:  whats your exact card/chipset?
[04:36] <TwentySeven> RadeonHD 5600. I clicked on "Activate", so I guess thats it.
[04:37] <Tiktalik> Dr_Willis: Ah, kdebase* will do I bet
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> Tiktalik:  what kde app are you wanting to use?
[04:38] <b0llo> How do I activate the root account?
[04:38] <Nicekiwi> how do I give apache access to files in the user home directory? (setting up Virtualhosts)
[04:38] <Tiktalik> Dr_Willis: I'm wanting to use kde!
[04:38] <reisio> Nicekiwi: symlink
[04:38] <Tiktalik> as a DE!
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> Tiktalik:  kde base most likely just installs some libs and other things. It may not install a full working desktop.
[04:39] <arash> reisio : is there any guide for symlinking ?
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> but i rarely use KDE. the guys in #kubuntu will know more.
[04:39] <bugaloo> b0llo, you shouldn't activate the root acount, it's dangerous, but if you really want to do this try just setting a password for the root
[04:39] <reisio> arash: ln -s real/path fake
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> dosent apache have a feature to have a .html or .public_html in the users home?
[04:40] <Nicekiwi> reisio: where/how do i create a symlink?
[04:40] <Nicekiwi> :P
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> so the user can be hosting his own site.
[04:41] <Nicekiwi> nvm
[04:41] <reisio> Nicekiwi: ln -s real/path fake
[04:41] <pengwu> !nvm
[04:41] <arash> !symlink
[04:41] <reisio> !exclamationmark
[04:41] <reisio> ubottu: newb
[04:41] <sumpygump> Nicekiwi: you'll want to look into apache's mod_userdir
[04:41] <Nicekiwi> reisio: does that work for muiltipul links?
[04:42] <reisio> ubottu: what about 'newb'?
[04:42] <reisio> not much chance of that, bro
[04:42] <reisio> Nicekiwi: multiple?
[04:42] <TwentySeven> Installation of the graphics drivers failed. Posting log in a second
[04:43] <b0llo> How do I activate the root account?
[04:43] <Nicekiwi> reisio: well.. im not too sure howto relate it to Virtualhosts, "/var/www -> /home/user" what DocumentRoot would I then set for a virtualhost config?
[04:44] <reisio> Nicekiwi: whatever you like
[04:44] <bugaloo> reisio, you want to have a virtualhost on your home? it shouldn't be like this... you should move the virtualhost to anywhere else
[04:44] <reisio> bugaloo: not I
[04:45] <Nicekiwi> reisio: ohh i think i understand
[04:45] <sumpygump> b0llo: What is your end goal, exactly? What are trying to do that requires root access?
[04:45] <jagginess> Nicekiwi, you understand? don't tell him he'll just say you don't.
[04:45] <jagginess> (psst)
[04:46]  * Nicekiwi chuckles
[04:46] <skyl> how do I find out which /dev is my usb drive?
[04:47] <jagginess> Nicekiwi, there's alot of narcissitic characters on here be careful ;-)
[04:47] <reisio> skyl: sudo blkid
[04:47] <Nicekiwi> he he i got it wrong :P
[04:47] <skyl> reisio, yay, thanks!
[04:48] <xrfang> hi, I cannot ping or connect to any local devices, including the router or another windows PC or my android devices. But I can connect to the internet, what can I do to find out the problem?
[04:48] <b0llo> How do I activate the root account?
[04:49] <flowerpot> OK seriously now...why is my flash player playing colors wrong on YouTube??? :(  the following video has reds/oranges show up bluish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIJeQNyZ6VE
[04:49] <flowerpot> People look blue.
[04:49] <jagginess> flowerpot, ya you asked this earlier today.
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> flowerpot:  known bug. disable hardware acceleration in flash, or use html5
[04:50] <flowerpot> I know...I don't think I got an answer
[04:50] <jagginess> flowerpot, try fixing your video driver..
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> or a flash downloader tool.
[04:50] <flowerpot> Hmmmm......how does one disable hardware acceleration in flash on Ubuntu?
[04:50] <aeon-ltd> b0llo: root already exists, what are you trying to do?
[04:50] <jagginess> flowerpot, "video driver"
[04:51] <jagginess> xrfang, but do your other devices have internet access?
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> flowerpot:  right click - flash window. settings  i belive.   You might need to full screen the flash video first
[04:52] <xrfang> jagginess, all devices can connect to internet, but my ubuntu can't ping the windows pc, and cannot use the smb printer
[04:52] <sumpygump> flowerpot: to disable hardware acceleration, right click the flash object and choose settings... there should be a checkbox there that say "Enable hardware acceleration"
[04:52] <jagginess> xrfang, check your firewall settings
[04:52] <murilos> Hello
[04:52] <murilos> Anyone here, works With TI?
[04:52] <murilos> Ubuntu Servers?
[04:53] <murilos> orDebian Servers?
[04:53] <FloodBot1> murilos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:53] <jagginess> xrfang, windows's firewall also has to let a ping hit it so you need to check those 2 firewalls
[04:53] <flowerpot> Yeah, I see the settings box, but for some reason I can't un-check it...bizarre
[04:53] <b0llo> How do I activate the root account?
[04:53] <flowerpot> ...or close it....
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> flowerpot:  right click - flash window. settings  i belive.   You might need to full screen the flash video first <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[04:53] <IdleOne> !root | b0llo
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> full screen it - and it works as it should flowerpot
[04:53] <jagginess> b0llo, ask reisio
[04:54] <flowerpot> fullscreening it and right clicking and clicking on "settings" or "global settings" doesn't bring up the little window :(
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> flowerpot:  it worked here...
[04:54] <reisio> b0llo: yes ask me
[04:54] <flowerpot> wait, it did that time
[04:54] <jagginess> flowerpot, well maybe the little window is not having a happy day
[04:54] <flowerpot> there we go
[04:54] <flowerpot> now my colors are normal again
[04:54] <jagginess> flowerpot, try seeing if you can run glxgears without issues
[04:55] <jagginess> lol
[04:55] <jagginess> wow.. flowerpot you on lsd?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> ive noticed the color issue in just some videos.
[04:55] <reisio> the ones nvidia's driver has the ability to accelerate
[04:55] <Nicekiwi> reisio: i setup s ymlink and get this error in apache
[04:55] <Nicekiwi> reisio: [Sun Jun 17 16:54:18 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Symbolic link not allowed or link target not accessible: /var/www/psicraft
[04:55] <reisio> although I'd still bet it's Adobe's fault
[04:56] <reisio> Nicekiwi: well that's pretty clear, isn't it :)
[04:56] <reisio> Nicekiwi: #httpd for all your apache httpd needs
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> apache has security settings to not follow symlinks by default.
[04:57] <xrfang> jagginess, I have switched off win7's firewall.  And to make sure, I also use the android tablet to ping windows or ubuntu, but none are responsive
[04:57] <flowerpot> jagger, no, linux
[04:57] <reisio> Dr_Willis: no it doesn't
[04:57] <flowerpot> jagginess, that is :)
[04:57] <reisio> possibly in that particular dir
[04:58] <Nicekiwi> reisio: grr how do I allow it..
[04:58] <b0llo> How do I activate the root account?
[04:58] <sumpygump> Nicekiwi: are you just trying to enable something like http://localhost/~nicekiwi/ to serve up files from your home directory?
[04:58] <Nicekiwi> reisio: #httpd is rather silent atm
[04:58] <reisio> b0llo: you were told already
[04:59] <Nicekiwi> sumpygump: no, im setting up http://psi-craft.local to access files in my home dir
[04:59] <reisio> Nicekiwi: well it's getting close to the worst time of day and the worst time of week to get help on here
[04:59] <Nicekiwi> reisio: Beer day.. figures..
[04:59] <Nicekiwi> :P
[04:59] <bugaloo> Nicekiwi, why in home dir? can't you move the dir to another path?
[04:59] <xrfang> jagginess, I think the problem is a very strange network configuration problem, becuase after I switch to another wifi ap, the windows pc is now pingable :-)
[04:59] <xrfang> I will track it down that way. thanks
[04:59] <Nicekiwi> bugaloo: no, the files are in Dropbox
[05:00] <bugaloo> Nicekiwi, jeez hehe
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> web server on your box.. sering up files from your drop box account... thats.. weird.
[05:00] <bugaloo> too wired
[05:00] <Nicekiwi> Dr_Willis: not so much, its a good backup and syncs to my other PCs that I dev on too
[05:01] <Nicekiwi> the symlinks idea was good.. untill apache refuses them :/
[05:02] <sumpygump> Did the symlink actually work? I have been able to have apache serve up files symlinked to my home dir
[05:02] <jagginess> xrfang, when you switch wifi AP, you change to a different LAN network. You probably have a router connecting two AP's in your house..
[05:02] <bugaloo> Nicekiwi, did you try to configure the apache to go directly to the dropbox path? instead using a symlink?
[05:03] <Nicekiwi> bugaloo: yes, there were permissions "issues" and the solutions seemed a lil extreme to bother with
[05:03] <Nicekiwi> aolutions i could find anyways
[05:03] <xrfang> jagginess, yes, I have 3 wifi APs and there were always problem with one of them I even filed a bug report, because this seems only affect the ubuntu pc
[05:03] <bugaloo> Nicekiwi, when you link a dir to another path, the permissions are the same
[05:03] <bugaloo> if you have permission "issues" with the direct path, you'll have the same permission issue with the symlink
[05:04] <bugaloo> Nicekiwi, you'll have to give apache the permission to these files/dirs
[05:04] <Nicekiwi> bugaloo: parhapes, but i cant even get that far yet
[05:04] <jagginess> xrfang, . . . . . . . . . . .
[05:04] <jagginess> xrfang, . . . . . . . .
[05:04] <bugaloo> Nicekiwi, you have any other website running on this apache?
[05:04] <xrfang> well? :-)
[05:04] <Nicekiwi> bugaloo: not surrently, but i want to setup mroe than one
[05:05]  * Nicekiwi feels a typo frensy coming on
[05:05] <jagginess> xrfang, read me. you have separate LANS for each AP. You need to allow the firewalls in those "AP" service boxes to allow traffic from your linux laptop to pass through
[05:05] <xrfang> jagginess, well, I didn't see such settings I am afraid.
[05:06] <bugaloo> Nicekiwi, still... you could try to run apache with your user permission
[05:06] <jagginess> xrfang, also it'll a million times easier to try to fix if it were in the same lan. What you have here isn't easy. 3 AP's ?
[05:06] <bugaloo> Nicekiwi, that way, apache would have permission to the home dir
[05:06] <xrfang> the 3 boxes are 2 TP-Link and one Buffallo, there seems no such setting
[05:06] <jagginess> xrfang, you'll have to know how to configure each AP's firewall to let you do what you want to do..
[05:06] <Nicekiwi> bugaloo: how?
[05:06] <xrfang> also, if there ARE such settings, why they only affect the ubuntu box?
[05:07] <jagginess> xrfang, you told me you change "wifi" AP.. that's what you said.. this isn't even a linux issue..
[05:07] <xrfang> actually, the problem happened while the ubuntu box is in the same room (same AP) with the windows pc, if I connect to another ap, the problem is gone :)
[05:07] <jagginess> -_-
[05:08] <xrfang> jagginess, yes, I thought it was a linux issue. Also, now it may *STILL* be a linux related issue (e.g. the linux wifi driver does not play well with my router).
[05:08] <xrfang> however it is now a known issue to me, not a new one as I thought.
[05:08] <xrfang> btw, it is a linux issue not ubuntu issue, as I have tried fedora 16, same probelm
[05:10] <bugaloo> Nicekiwi, I think the conf files of apache give you this option
[05:22] <harrrismrubin> can you use a windows 7 only mouse in ubuntu
[05:22] <harrrismrubin> http://www.amazon.com/Targus-Wi-Fi-Laser-Mouse-AMW58US/dp/B005MR598O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339910423&sr=8-1&keywords=Targus+Targus+Wi-Fi+Laser+Mouse+-+Black+%28AMW58US%29
[05:23] <harrrismrubin> can you
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> harrrismrubin:  i imagine the basic functions should work. bht advanced features may not
[05:23] <harrrismrubin> what advanced functions
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> no idea. i dont have the mouse to know what advanced features it has...
[05:23] <Shano56> by advanced features he means any advanced features it may or may not have..
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> ive never seen a 'windows only' mouse befor...
[05:24] <Shano56> If its just a standard plug and play mouse, it will work
[05:24] <roasted_> uh
[05:24] <roasted_> What's wrong with this picture? Am Imissing something? http://pastebin.com/sVBGCkQp
[05:24] <roasted_> How is the locate command finding a file that ls isn't picking up?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> roasted_:  the locate command is using its database.
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> its not scanning in real time
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo updatedb' rescans the database
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> there is a cron job that updates teh database once a day i belive.
[05:25] <roasted_> Dr_Willis, makes sense, because I accidentally used the mv command earlier instead of cp when I was in that directory.
[05:25] <bwayne> what's the advantage of using `locate` over `find`?
[05:25] <roasted_> Dr_Willis, ah okay that was going to be my next question :P
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> bwayne:  it uses a database. so is faster
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> also differnt feature sets.
[05:26] <roasted_> Dr_Willis, bingo... now it finds nothing.
[05:26] <roasted_> makes sense!
[05:26] <roasted_> Dr_Willis, out of curiosity, is that an anacron job?
[05:26] <bwayne> ah.  no root access on many of my machines.  therefore no updatedb.
[05:26] <roasted_> bwayne, why's that?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> roasted_:  should be. but ive rarely had to mess with it.
[05:27] <bwayne> roasted_, i mean, I myself don't have root access.
[05:27] <roasted_> Dr_Willis, glad to know it's there!
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> bwayne:  users can have their own custom locate database of just their files and so forth if you want to index just your personal files.
[05:27] <bwayne> Dr_Willis, I didn't know that.  I'll look into that, thanks.
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> http://cristalinux.blogspot.com/2010/04/useful-command-line-little-tricks-part.html
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> sort of shows where you would use find vs locate.
[05:29] <t0ken> is there a package for the source of 3.2.0-23-generic-pae?  I'm trying to install virtual box but it says it can't build the module because it can't find the kernel source
[05:29] <fishbait> it says its going to take 4 HOURS JUST TO SHRINK AND MOVE A PARTITION!  is that even remotely accurate or is this a case of windows copy dialog times
[05:29] <roasted_> fishbait, depends on so many variables.
[05:29] <roasted_> fishbait, amount of data, disk size, etc.
[05:30] <roasted_> fishbait, I've had it take longer than that on 1TB drives.
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> ive found windows 7 can resize its own ntfs's a lot faster then gparted or other linux tools can.
[05:30] <fishbait> also creating swap partition out of un aallocated space on same drive
[05:30] <fishbait> 500gb drive
[05:30] <roasted_> Dr_Willis, that's a surprise.
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> making a swap partition  - shold be very quick
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> roasted_:  windows 7 was able to resize the ntfs it was running from also.. which suprised me.
[05:31] <roasted_> Dr_Willis, wow, finally a +1 for windows. :P
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if its more of a "MS using features that it dosent document for others to know about" thing...
[05:31] <fishbait> it 2nd in the queue hafta free the space first and then the joy of editing the /etc/fstab
[05:33] <fishbait> they probably just move the bits around or into ram then edit the sector done on a sector by sector basis while running primarily from ram
[05:33] <Hetep> hola, am looking for help with the update manager
[05:33] <fishbait> Hetep: feel free to just ask a question
[05:35] <Hetep> the "Applying Changes" window suggests "End", though it is not finished
[05:35] <Hetep> what is necessary to initiate the remainder the updates?
[05:36] <Hetep> typing "s" pulls a "log file: " prompt
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> so what makes you think its not done?
[05:38] <ksinkar> for ubuntu 11.10 a libopenssl-dev was available, but for 12.04 no such lib exists
[05:38] <Hetep> the progress bar was just near half
[05:38] <ksinkar> how do I download the header files?
[05:38] <Hetep> the text was suggesting "sudo" was not stable
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Hetep:  Hmm. May be best to fall back to the command line tools and look for other error messages.
[05:42] <Your_Dog> hi, what's the channel for asking kde help?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Hetep:  'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get upgrade' may clear it up
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Your_Dog:  #kubuntu
[05:42] <Your_Dog> ty
[05:44] <mputtr> hi, does anyone here use NX nomachine?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> weird.. somehow im able to 'move/drag' windows to a differnt workspace.. but i can only do it by accident. :) never can do it when i want to.
[05:44] <mputtr> i dont have the slightest clue on how to configure it to run as a server
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  ive seen guides on setting it up. but always had issues with it. Ive not tried it in perhaps a year.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> !freenx
[05:45] <mputtr> oo
[05:46] <haylo> http://imagebin.org/216742 my ubuntu netinstall
[05:46] <mputtr> sweet. so i can use my w7 system to access my ubuntu serverbox
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> theres several ways you an do that mputtr  :)
[05:46] <mputtr> i c
[05:46] <mputtr> which would be the best for performance?
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use vnc, or xming and just X forwarding
[05:46] <mputtr> i'm a comlete newb with linux
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> is there a NX client for windows?  last i looked there wasent. but that may be differnt now
[05:47] <haylo> its installable, just like that too ^^
[05:47] <mputtr> NX Client for Windows
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> i tend to just need a single window/app, not the whold desktop. so xming/ssh works well for me
[05:48] <mputtr> i c
[05:48] <mputtr> what if i want full access to the desktop?
[05:48] <mputtr> what would be the best option?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> freenx is supposed to be faster then vnc.
[05:49] <mputtr> got it. i'll start with installing freeNX..
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> but it may be more complex to setup. ;)
[05:49] <mputtr> i'll look up a guide on how to configure nx nomachine
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> Err. I think the NoMachineNX is a differnt 'nx'  system. You use one or the other..
[05:51] <mputtr> 0.o
[05:51] <mputtr> oh
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> NX Server Free Edition provided by NoMachine is not related to FreeNX. NXSFE has a limit of 2 sessions per server. FreeNX doesn't have this limit.
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> from the help page...
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> that Help page was a bit confuseing last i used it.. its been cleaned up a lot.
[05:51] <mputtr> ahhhhh but you can use the nomachine client to access it right?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> but back then freenx was just comming out.
[05:52] <mputtr> atleast that's how i understood it
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  no idea.
[05:52] <mputtr> ok.. i'll just have to read the guide slowly
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> guide seems to say you use the NoMachineNX client for either one.
[05:53] <mputtr> yeah.. that's what it seems like..
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> I seem to recall trying out 2 clients. each had its own quirks
[05:53] <myhero> can someone provide tvmaster tm5600 driver for ubuntu ? or help in compiling its driver from source ?
[05:53] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: thanks for the site link. i'm going to read on it forabit
[05:53] <mputtr> and see if i can decipher this stuff
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> myhero:  checked the forums and askubuntu.com site for any guides/info on setting that thing up?
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> if they relased the drivers source. seems like it would get included in the kernel.
[05:55] <myhero> Dr_Willis: which forum ? and i'll check askubuntu....
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> !forum
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> myhero:  from what i just googled seems the driver  should bein the kernel
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> under the name 'tm6000'
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/VIDEO_TM6000.html
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> /lib/modules/3.2.0-24-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/tm6000/tm6000.ko
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> so the driver seems to allready be compiled in  under 12.04
[06:00] <myhero> Dr_Willis: so how do i make it work ?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> no idea. Plug it in.. run some tv tuner app...
[06:01] <myhero> which app ???
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> Since these cards have no MPEG decoder onboard, they transmit only compressed MPEG data over the usb bus, so you need an external software decoder to watch TV on your computer.
[06:01] <myhero> i have the app but its exe which is for windows...\
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> theres several tv tuner apps in the repos.
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> vlc and mplayer can most likely do it.
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> !info tvtime
[06:02] <mi3> !info tor
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> I doubt if the windows exe will work
[06:02] <myhero> i have vlc and xine installed....should i run vlc then will it work ?>
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2936/what-software-is-available-to-use-tv-tuner-card
[06:03] <myhero> Dr_Willis: ok
[06:03] <mi3> !info audacious
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> that list may not be complete. :) but it has several apps ive never seen befor
[06:04] <mi3> Version 3.2.1-2-----> err ok
[06:07] <bobx> I have got a gz file which is encrypted.its single file only how to decrypt it?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> encrypted how? by default gz is just gzip compressed
[06:08] <myhero> Dr_Willis: y all these co.'s don't make drivers for linux ?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> myhero:  drivers have nothing to do with the actual 'app' using the driver
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> the apps use the drivers to access the hardware
[06:09] <myhero> yeah but the main problem is with the hardware and driver only....coz without driver hardware is useless and no app cam access then
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> the 'kernel modules' would  make the proper /dev/whatever  tv tuner/video device for the apps to access. they dont really see that it brand X tuner, vs some other brand tuner.
[06:09] <myhero> them
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> the Drivers are in linux.. so im not sure what you mean.
[06:11] <myhero> i dont know whether they r there or not....i m installing tvtime as u told....then i will see if it works or not.....and if the drivers are there then will it work automatically or i'll to activate or anything else to do to make it work ?
[06:12] <haylo> i think there is more than one reason a program might not work myhero
[06:12] <myhero> haylo: ok
[06:13] <Dr_Willis>  tvtime is a tuner app.. not a driver.
[06:13] <myhero> tvtime is asking for configuration of remote and ir transmitter...what to specif in them ?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> the driver is not the tuner app...   if the driver is working properly. there should be a proper /dev/videodevice  that the apps use.
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> do you have a remote and transmitter?
[06:14] <myhero> yeah
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> see if theres an entry for TM5600/6000/6010  perhaps?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> I dont have a tuner. and my 'remote' is a plug and play USB one that emulates a keyboard. :)
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> or worry about the remote later. ;)
[06:17] <vp18> anyone has netgear n900?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/  may have some other info for you myhero
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> vp18:  whats a n 900? :)
[06:18] <vp18> wireless router NETGEAR
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/129111/how-do-i-get-a-netgear-n900-wnda4100-wireless-usb-adapter-working
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> gotta love  the askubuntu 'lens'
[06:21] <myhero> Dr_Willis: i m going to check and return back with results.....thnx for help...
[06:21] <myhero> Dr_Willis: i hve installed tv time and did nothing for driver as u told driver is present....
[06:21] <Tiktalik> I installed ubuntu minimal then installed KDE
[06:21] <Tiktalik> What do I do now for wi-fi
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> myhero:  check lsmod output see if a tm6000 is listed
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Tiktalik:  you could install wicd, or the network-manager app.
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> or configure wireless by hand
[06:22] <Hetep> can a person help with the updates? am not having much fortune with acquiring the updates
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Hetep:  'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' also fail?
[06:23] <Tiktalik> Dr_Willis: network-manager app/
[06:23] <JuJuBee_> I just downloaded adn burned kubuntu 12.04 and verified disc and md5.  When I boot from live CD, i get (initramfs) and no kubuntu....?
[06:23] <Tiktalik> ?
[06:24] <Tiktalik> Dr_Willis: network-manager-kde?
[06:24] <Hetep> Dr_Willis, sudo apt-get update failled with a GPG error for bad signature
[06:24] <dcw329>  dr willis. have you got any idea if its possible to find out another users ip address if you are just a user in a chat room?/
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Tiktalik:   i dont knwo the specific package names  that looks about right.
[06:24] <Tiktalik> dcw329: /whois username
[06:24] <Tiktalik> kk
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> dcw329:  what chat room? you can use the /whois command on irc.
[06:24] <dcw329> whois vp18
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> but thats not always accurate
[06:25] <myhero> Dr_Willis: there is no tm000 or tm5600 entry in lsmod output...
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> myhero:  perhaps 'sudo modprobe tm6000' odd that it dident auto load once you plug in the device
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> myhero:  you are using 12.04 ?
[06:25] <myhero> Dr_Willis: yes
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> locate tm6000.ko      shows  the drivers exist in the kernel tree here.
[06:27] <ProtekNickz> got a slight prob, if anyone can help, i installed Gnome to to see what it was like, which went fine, but when i uninstalled it "sudo apt-get remove gnome-shell" then rebooted, the login screen still has gnome and gnome classic on their, how do i remove them? im using ubuntu 12.04
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> ProtekNickz:  install the 'ubuntu-desktop' package should pull in all needed stuff.
[06:27] <myhero> Dr_Willis: sudo modprobe tm6000 is not giving any back and sudo modprobe is saying not found
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> if you are refering to just the session entries. You should have used the purge option.
[06:28] <ProtekNickz> ?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> ProtekNickz:  the packatge manager tools have a purge option to clean out all system configs.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> theres .desktop files that define what sessions the login screen show.
[06:28] <ProtekNickz> k
[06:29] <Dr_Willis>    /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop     seems to bethe gnome one here. ;)
[06:29] <ProtekNickz> nice :D
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> some apps/devs go over bord making sesions..
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> just installing openbox gave me 3 differnt openbox variants. :) includeing openbox-kde.desktop   andi dont even have kde installed...
[06:31] <ProtekNickz> so does unity still use gnome? as when i removes gnome-fallback my unity wouldnt work lol
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Unity is a shell on top of gnome-3
[06:31] <ProtekNickz> ah right
[06:31] <myhero> Dr_Willis: searching tm6000 is giving multiple files and multiple folders with lock
[06:31] <ProtekNickz> ty :D
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> i would just leave gnome-shell installed.
[06:32] <ProtekNickz> i may do, i just find unity easier to use, but it's been mentioned to me gnome is much better
[06:32] <reisio> they're not all that different, one being based on the other
[06:32] <myhero> Dr_Willis: i m going now to see if it works then coming back with results...
[06:33] <Hetep> Dr_Willis, can you help with resolving the GPG error?
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> myhero:  after running 'sudo modprobe tm6000'  the driver should be loaded if it was not allready loaded. lsmod should show a tm6000, and the tvtime tool should work.  but  other then that.. i dont know much more about that specific card
[06:33] <myhero> Dr_Willis: ok
[06:33] <bazhang> !gpgerr | Hetep
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> ProtekNickz:  i use both at times..  i keep them both installed because of the way themes and so forth work
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> I would have never guessed !gpgerr :)
[06:34] <ProtekNickz> right, you answered many questions with that 1 line :D
[06:34] <ProtekNickz> installing gnome :D
[06:34] <ProtekNickz> again
[06:34] <ProtekNickz> lol
[06:34] <myhero> Dr_Willis: yeah after doing sudo modprobe tm6000, lsmod is showing tm6000 entry but b4 it was not showing the same
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> i rarely uninstall anything. ;P
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> myhero:   also when you unplug/plug in the tuner. if you wait a few moments and check  the output at the end of 'dmesg' command. it should mention the tuner
[06:35] <Hetep> Dr_Willis it gives syntax error newline
[06:35] <ProtekNickz> it was mainly for a theme i wanted, sounds silly now in me wanting to remove the gnome ^_^
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> Hetep:  what does?
[06:36] <Hetep> the console
[06:36] <Hetep> terminal rather
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> I have NO idea what command you used at the console...
[06:36] <myhero> Dr_Willis: does that mean that the drivers were not automatically loaded ( whether load automatically or not) and is modprobe command for probing a hardware or loading driver for specific hardware and is lsmod command for showing hardwares connected to system ???
[06:36] <bazhang> Hetep, pastebin the exact error message
[06:36] <bazhang> !paste | Hetep
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> myhero:  when you plug in a device the system should auto load the needed modules.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> lsmod  same as 'ls' :) for files.. only does modules
[06:37] <Hetep> Dr_Willis sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key>
[06:37] <myhero> Dr_Willis: ok
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Hetep:  replace <key> witht he actual key value. ;)
[06:38] <myhero> Dr_Willis: and what for modprobe ?? to probe the loaded modules (modules= u mean drivers) or to load them ???
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> module probe  = loads themodule
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> the proper linux term is Modules.. not drivers.. they are kernel modules
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> drivers include kernel modules and other bits i guess. ;)
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> the nvidia drivers include modules and other files. i guess is what im saying.
[06:39] <Hetep> Dr_Willis, the terminal still gives syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> some devices are just a kernel module
[06:39] <myhero> Dr_Willis: ok  but then whats the difference and whats the extra bits u refering to ?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Hetep:  whats the exact command you are using
[06:39] <ccowan> Anyone have experience with Nginx and IE with large POST requests not completing?
[06:41] <myhero> Dr_Willis: ok mayb i got some idea with that nvidia example....thnx
[06:41] <Hetep> Dr_Willis http://pastebin.com/G2PERyU5
[06:42] <JuJuBee_> I try to boot from live cd of 12.04 and all I get is ...  (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a life file system
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Hetep:  you dont use the <> in the cmmand those whowed What you replaced with the key valuee
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> virgae@Huw-Laitalum:~$ sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <40976EAF437D05B5>
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[06:43] <mputtr> damn... this whole set up thing is such a nightmare.
[06:44] <Hetep> Dr_Willis, gracias hombre
[06:45] <reisio> mputtr: which?
[06:45] <JuJuBee_> could it be due to a filesystem marked as unclean?
[06:45] <JuJuBee_> ie a forced shutdown
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> JuJuBee_:  a live cd is booting from the cd. you dont even need a HD on the system. i would guess the cd is either burnt badly or theiso image was bad,
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> ive used seval machines in past that were Live-cd only. No hard drives at all.
[06:51] <bobx> What new security measure has been added in Android 4.0?
[06:52] <sirknight> i have a dual boot:ubuntu and win 7 starter .. did a factory reset to 7 and it got really messy .. i used ubcd ubcd.com /theres supergrub in there i used to boot it up  but now i can even get to any os.. (i do have a whole disk clone/250gb )
[06:52] <bazhang> bobx, ask in an android channel
[06:52] <sirknight> bobx,  pm me...
[06:53] <JuJuBee_> Dr_Willis: the live cd verified after burn AND md5 checked out ok.
[06:54] <JuJuBee_> I suspect that maybe I need to do fsck on my drives?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> you can try. but i dont see why that would stop a live cd from booting
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> ive booted live cds in order to fix broken hard drives. ;)
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> it could be some other issue going on. and that error message is  not correct.
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> or at least not the cause of the problem
[07:04] <pskeshu> how do I change to a different channel ?
[07:04] <Dr_Willis>  /join #channelname
[07:04] <pskeshu> thank you :)
[07:04] <pskeshu> this is my first time
[07:05] <mputtr> this is a nightmare... configuring freenx or any of this is ridiculous
[07:05] <mputtr> it seems that i can't get ssh to work
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  i recall getting it going once. but i dont even have 2 pcs on the lan at the moment to try it again
[07:05] <bobx> what this gives 'mov esi, [ecx+20h]'
[07:05] <bobx> ?
[07:05] <mputtr> i c..
[07:06] <mputtr> i tried /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> ssh should start once you install it.
[07:06] <mputtr> and it just threw "could not load host key:"
[07:06] <Dr_Willis>  sudo service ssh status
[07:06] <mputtr> for ssh_host_rsa dsa ecdsa+key
[07:06] <mputtr> ssh stop/waiting
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> it should generate  a key the first time it runs
[07:07] <Dr_Willis>  sudo service ssh restart
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> perhaps.
[07:07] <mputtr> stop: unknown instance:
[07:07] <mputtr> ssh start/pre-start, process 8980
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> so its now running it seems
[07:08] <Dr_Willis>    ssh localhost
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> to see if you can connect locally  as a test
[07:08] <mputtr> connection refused..
[07:08] <mputtr> so i guess i'll have to configure the port number
[07:08] <mputtr> i'm assuming port 22 is blocked by default
[07:09] <___MAX> Hi,  i bought new samsung s5220 with wifi support , can i surfe the internet from pc my using the mobile wifi
[07:10] <Dr_Willis>  ssh localhost is blocked?
[07:10] <mputtr> wierd.... i just did gksudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and changed the port to one that i have port forwarded but when i did ssh localhost, it says it's still looking for port 22
[07:10] <reisio> ___MAX: probably
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> check the firewall rules?
[07:10] <___MAX> reisio: ok , how can  i do that
[07:10] <mputtr> ok, checking router
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> cant recall ever seeing ssh localhost not work. :)  You are on the same box as the ssh server is running on?
[07:11] <bugaloo> mputtr, see if your router has an option like "block wan request", most of them has it
[07:11] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: yup
[07:11] <___MAX> reisio, you how !
[07:11] <mputtr> bugaloo: checking
[07:12] <bugaloo> ___MAX, is it android?
[07:13] <___MAX> bugaloo: yes
[07:13] <mputtr> i dont see any settings for block wan request...
[07:13] <bugaloo> ___MAX, then you can
[07:13] <___MAX> bugaloo: how !
[07:13] <bugaloo> ___MAX, do you know what is the android version?
[07:13] <___MAX> bugaloo : no
[07:14] <___MAX> bugaloo: but i can check
[07:14] <bugaloo> ___MAX, then check it
[07:14] <___MAX> :) .sec
[07:14] <bugaloo> ___MAX, if you have 2.2 or + android version, it's native, if not, you'll have to install some app
[07:14] <maybefbi> When I use Unity, suddenly the windows jump to another workspace after I am dragging them by their title bar. What am I doing wrong, and how do I stop this?
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> maybefbi:  i noticed that recently also. I think it may be a new bug.
[07:15] <maybefbi> Dr_Willis, i see :9
[07:15] <maybefbi> :(
[07:15] <mputtr> i can't find any option about blocking wan requests
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> i cant make it do it when i try to..
[07:16] <mputtr> i enabled wan ping respond but that's about it
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> but i did see  it happenint today maybefbi
[07:16] <maybefbi> Dr_Willis, thanks
[07:16] <bitabit> hello!
[07:17] <bugaloo> mputtr, i'm assuming you can connect via ssh using the internal IP right?
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[07:17] <mputtr> bugaloo: unfortuantely i know nothing about linux and networking...
[07:17] <mputtr> i'm trying to set up nx nomachine so i can control ubuntu from my w7 machine
[07:17] <bitabit> I would like to install ubuntu on a 500 mb ram 1.8GHz pentium(R) laptop...which is the lightweight suitable distro for such a computer?
[07:17] <bugaloo> mputtr,  hehehe... it puts you in a hard situation, then... why do you want to forward a ssh port if you know nothing about network?
[07:18] <mputtr> bugaloo: oh, i assumed that it might be blocked if i dont set it up for port forwarding
[07:18] <mputtr> i know torrents get all fritzy when the port it's using is not forwarded
[07:18] <bugaloo> mputtr, for sure... you have to set the por forward on your router
[07:18] <mputtr> yup
[07:18] <mputtr> i have it set up to a specific port
[07:19] <bitabit> I would like a comfortable and speedy desktop
[07:19] <mputtr> nxserver's config file points to the right port...
[07:19] <mputtr> i spent the past few hours reading the nomachine documentation and it's a nightmare to understand
[07:20] <bugaloo> mputtr, which port?
[07:20] <mputtr> 1986
[07:20] <bugaloo> mputtr, but you want ssh port?
[07:20] <mputtr> i guess...
[07:20] <mputtr> i don't know what i am supposed to "want"
[07:20] <bugaloo> lol
[07:21] <bugaloo> mputtr, what do you want, anyway?
[07:21] <___MAX> bugaloo, android version : 4.0.4
[07:21] <mputtr> i want to be able to control my new htpc running ubuntu via windows 7 (my other machine)
[07:21] <mputtr> my plan was to build a home media storage/playback device
[07:21] <bugaloo> ___MAX, uh ok... you should have it native then
[07:22] <mputtr> i was recommended to go for NX Nomachine... but there are no step by step guide that would've helped.
[07:22] <___MAX> bugaloo, what is the program  so i can try it
[07:23] <bugaloo> ___MAX, it 's not a program, you should see it in the wifi settings
[07:23] <___MAX> bugaloo, may be it will work
[07:24] <___MAX> bugaloo , so i need to install virtual wifi rout on my pc
[07:24] <___MAX> bugaloo ,router ..
[07:24] <krish> guys can I actually purge evolution-data-server and evolution-data-server-common without removing   indicator-datetime*
[07:24] <bugaloo> ___MAX, no... you'll see your android phone as an AP (access point)
[07:24] <bitabit> which ubuntu should I install on a pentium (r) 1.8GHz 500mb RAM laptop? the ubuntu 12.04 runs too slow
[07:24] <krish> I use apt-get purge and it auto removed indicator-datetime.. and so I dont have date time on my panel
[07:25] <___MAX> bugaloo, how can isearch my phone from my pc , i think that the problem
[07:25] <___MAX> bugaloo , bluetooth suck
[07:26] <bugaloo> ___MAX, you'll see it as an wifi network
[07:26] <___MAX> bugaloo, ok let me try then
[07:27] <mputtr> i was following directions on freenx and i'm stuck at the point in which it told me to restart sshd
[07:27] <mputtr> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[07:27] <mputtr> i keep on getting Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key (dsa & ecdsa key as well)
[07:28] <bobx> like We have seen crackmes.de, STS, HTS and many more. Recently we had a new reverse engineering wargame. can anyone give me the website link?
[07:28] <slicknick5181> using ubuntu 12.04 and asterisk 1.8 I am told I need to recompile asterisk due to bluetooth issues.. I have no clue how to recompile
[07:33] <slicknick5181> anybody?
[07:34] <reisio> slicknick5181: I have a body
[07:36] <Jordan_U> sirknight: If you're still looking for support, could you boot from a LiveCD/USB and run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it produces?
[07:36] <slicknick5181> reisio: lol I was referring to help on my question.. do you know how to recompile a package
[07:37] <sirknight> Jordan_U,  ok
[07:38] <reisio> slicknick5181: yeah emerge package :p
[07:43] <krish> anyone? -   guys can I actually purge evolution-data-server and evolution-data-server-common without removing   indicator-datetime*
[07:44] <reisio> slicknick5181: why are you compiling?
[07:45] <slicknick5181> Issues with Asterisk bluetooth
[07:46] <slicknick5181> apparently if I change a couple lines of source i can fix my issue
[07:46] <reisio> oh, good times
[07:47] <e33> hi, hi, for 4 days i am trying to fix the tor on my ubuntu 12.04 (virtual machine) without success, i have tried so many method available on net, always showing to me "None of the authentication protocols specified are supported vidalia tor"
[07:47] <slicknick5181> Yeah I think I'm in over my head but I really wanna learn this stuff and I could use this feature
[07:47] <reisio> so what's the problem ATM?
[07:48] <newtoubuntu> having fun with my ubuntu install... is any isilo-like pdb reader available?
[07:48] <slicknick5181> connecting phone to asterisk via bluetooth and having calls go through my PBX.. but the issue is the phone disconnects as soon as it connects
[07:49] <reisio> newtoubuntu: would check calibre first
[07:49] <pouh_> Hi there. I connected to a server via ssh. But am unable to read the file. It says permission denied. How do I change the permission of a file in some other system?
[07:50] <reisio> pouh_: sudo less file ?
[07:50] <reisio> pouh_: or man chmod / sudo chmod, etc.
[07:51] <Jordan_U> pouh_: What file? It may not be a good idea to change the permissions depending on the file.
[07:51] <pouh_> But I dont have read permission. I am not the sudo
[07:51] <newtoubuntu> reisio calibre doesn't list pdb as supported :(
[07:52] <pouh_> It's a txt file
[07:52] <Jordan_U> pouh_: What is the path to the file?
[07:53] <pouh_> path? I did not understand. I am sorry
[07:53] <newtoubuntu> also i'm unhappy with the firewall... zonealarm is my reference
[07:54] <pouh_> I just connected to a server using ssh.
[07:54] <pouh_> I can view the files
[07:54] <reisio> newtoubuntu: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22pdb%22%20site%3Acalibre-ebook.com
[07:54] <pouh_> but dont hav permissions to read
[07:55] <brontosaurusrex> pouh_, ask admin to fix permissions for you
[07:55] <Jordan_U> pouh_: What exactly are you doing to try to read the file? What command are you running?
[07:55] <pouh_> no other way?
[07:56] <pouh_> I could see the file. So just tried to open it.
[07:56] <pouh_> But permission denied
[07:56] <pouh_> No other way other than asking to admin
[07:56] <Jordan_U> pouh_: See the file where? In the graphical file browser?
[07:57] <pouh_> used ls command
[07:57] <newtoubuntu> reisio trying calibre
[07:57] <Jordan_U> pouh_: OK, and what is the exact command you used to try to read the file?
[07:58] <pouh_> It's text file. so tried to open using vim
[07:59] <Jordan_U> pouh_: OK, what was the exact command you ran, including the file path? For example "vim foo/bar.txt".
[08:00] <pouh_> It's in their working directory only. so vim filename.txt
[08:01] <mputtr> i think im ight have just botched my installation of ubuntu.... i'm reformatting and reinstalling it...
[08:01] <newtoubuntu> #firewall
[08:01] <mputtr> does anyone have suggestions for controlling ubuntu via a windows 7 system?
[08:01] <reisio> mputtr: graphically? VNC. Not? ssh.
[08:01] <alvincev> U can use teamviewer for linux
[08:01] <brontosaurusrex> mputtr, server? ssh, desktop - nomachine
[08:02] <newtoubuntu> is there a thing such as "hibernate"
[08:02] <brontosaurusrex> !firewall
[08:02] <mputtr> brontosaurusrex: i've been trying to configure nomachine..
[08:02] <mputtr> but it's a nightmare.... the online documentation doesn't help and leaves alot of questions
[08:03] <mputtr> especially for a newbie like me
[08:03] <brontosaurusrex> mputtr, have ssh working?
[08:03] <mputtr> i thought I did...
[08:03] <newtoubuntu> brontosaurusrex but the inbuilt firewall doesn't prompt on outgoing connections, so that i couls allow or deny
[08:03] <mputtr> but as soon as i tell sshd to restart, it says it can't load host keys
[08:03] <Jordan_U> pouh_: I'm trying to figure out if this is a system file, or a user's file, since that helps determine if and how permissions should be changed. What type of file is this?
[08:04] <brontosaurusrex> mputtr, check the permissions on key file, it has to be exact
[08:04] <brontosaurusrex> 644 or something
[08:04] <mputtr> well... i just reformatted so i'm starting from scratch
[08:04] <mputtr> i have 0 experience with ubuntu or any linux system save android
[08:05] <mputtr> brontosaurusrex: do you know if there's a step by step guide for complete newbies on how to configure nomachine server?
[08:05] <brontosaurusrex> mputtr, what you want is ssh working first, then try nomachine using the exact same connection settings
[08:05] <reisio> once you enable the VNC server you should only have to run a VNC viewer from Windows and type in an IP and password, basically
[08:06] <mputtr> or atleast a guide that is less confusing to work with than nomachine's documentation?
[08:06] <newtoubuntu> anything on firewall or hibernate
[08:06] <brontosaurusrex> mputtr, i dont recall any problems at all with nomachine
[08:06] <mputtr> brontosaurusrex: ok.. i'll search on how to get ssh working
[08:06] <mputtr> i'm just waiting for ubuntu to be done installing atm
[08:06] <reisio> http://sourceforge.net/projects/tigervnc/files/tigervnc/1.2.0/
[08:08] <pouh_> Jordan_U : ok. Not a system file. That much only I understood
[08:08] <fishbait> okay so i know i have to alter the uuid of swap in the fstab but do i edit the fstab in the os or from the live cd?
[08:08] <reisio> fishbait: why do you have to alter it?
[08:08] <bazhang> newtoubuntu, got gufw installed as I suggested?
[08:09] <fishbait> i'm moving the swap partition to a different physical drive
[08:09] <Jordan_U> pouh_: Who's file is it, and why don't you have read permissions?
[08:09] <fishbait> by re-creating a larger one
[08:09] <DjGeCk0> hi. is there any tool to create an installation-disc(backup-disc) of the current FULL-System ?
[08:09] <Jordan_U> s/who's/whose/
[08:09] <DjGeCk0> including driver, software
[08:09] <bazhang> DjGeCk0, something like clonezilla?
[08:09] <newtoubuntu> bazhang yes but didn't really help... so i just did sudo ufw enable and sudo ufw default deny
[08:10] <DjGeCk0> bazhang: ill take a look on it
[08:10] <newtoubuntu> bazhang but the outgoing connections - no control
[08:10] <bazhang> newtoubuntu, why do you mention firewall and hibernate together
[08:10] <glenford> ive been trying to play some avi files but i am only hearing audio.any help
[08:10] <newtoubuntu> two separate thing i would like
[08:10] <bazhang> glenford, with what player
[08:11] <brontosaurusrex> glenford, try vlc and mplayer
[08:11] <glenford> both vlc and movie player
[08:11] <fishbait> did you try the avi files on a known good pc eliminate the files first
[08:11] <glenford> yeah
[08:11] <glenford> they are playing on my  tablet
[08:11] <bazhang> glenford, play with mplayer from terminal and pastebin the errors
[08:12] <bazhang> !paste | glenford
[08:12] <brontosaurusrex> newtoubuntu, i think the default idea is to not use the firewall
[08:13] <pouh_> Jordan_U: Yeah. I don't have read permission. mmm no idea
[08:13] <bazhang> newtoubuntu, you wish to shape the user bandwidth? is that what you mean by outgoing? please clarify exactly what you are talking about
[08:13] <newtoubuntu> bazhang brontosaurusrex as good as ubuntu is, i'd like some control over what programs connect to the internet
[08:14] <bazhang> newtoubuntu, such as what
[08:14] <Jordan_U> pouh_: Your best bet is probably to ask that user to give you read permissions to that file then,
[08:15] <pouh_> Jordan_U:No other way?
[08:15] <Jordan_U> pouh_: It's hard to tell from the information you've given.
[08:16] <newtoubuntu> you know like deny "picasa" a permission to connect to its home
[08:17] <newtoubuntu> bazhang no connections by any program to the internet without explicit "allow"
[08:17] <brontosaurusrex> pouh_, what happens if you cp ./file ./myfile ?
[08:17] <pouh_> permission denied
[08:18] <brontosaurusrex> then call file owner
[08:18] <fishbait> i'm making a swap partition on a different drive it will be my new swap partition part of that is changing the swap uuid in /etc/fstab but now heres the kicker do i edit it from the live cd then boot into the os or do i edit it from the os and sudo telinit 6
[08:19] <glenford> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1045250/
[08:19] <newtoubuntu> bazhang have you used zonealarm
[08:19] <Jordan_U> fishbait: Either will work, you can also simply use "swapon" and "swapoff"/
[08:20] <fishbait> ok i'm just being careful don't do this every day ya know ty for responding.
[08:20] <pouh_> ok. Thanks
[08:21] <newtoubuntu> reisio calibre didn't work with my pdb... can't read... cant change to other format
[08:21] <reisio> newtoubuntu: if the calibre site says it's support, make sure you have the same version
[08:22] <newtoubuntu> reisio it did add the file to e-books list but after that nothing
[08:25] <boson12> i am having trouble downloading from the software center
[08:25] <boson12> any help?
[08:25] <boson12> thanks
[08:25] <glenford> here is the output from mplayer http://paste.ubuntu.com/1045250/
[08:25] <bazhang> boson12, whats the error
[08:26] <newtoubuntu> so i give up on pdb and firewall for now... thanks fly to reisio bazhang brauntosaurusrex escott djjones et al for all the help
[08:26] <balrog-k2n> hi, how do you stop X?  i tried init 3 but it does nothing much and there's nothing in /etc/init.d that seems to be related to the whole graphical interface
[08:26] <boson12> bazhang, the softaware center keeps on searching without ever outputting results
[08:26] <theadmin> balrog-k2n: sudo service lightdm stop || sudo service gdm stop
[08:27] <balrog-k2n> theadmin: cheers, service lightdm stop worked
[08:28] <bazhang> boson12, what are you doing; trying to install something? searching for a package? what does the similar operation do from the terminal
[08:28] <mputtr> brontosaurusrex: ok. i just got SSH to work
[08:28] <gugas> telnet www.aol.com 80
[08:28] <gugas> Trying 2001:4b0:1668:3c06:1::1...
[08:28] <gugas> Connected to v6v4.portal.aol.com.aol.akadns.net.  Escape character is '^]'. and have no result
[08:28] <FloodBot1> gugas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:28] <theadmin> balrog-k2n: You can disable X entirely by either a) appending "text" to GRUB menu entry (then you can start it manually) or b) renaming /etc/init/lightdm.conf to something which does not end in conf (then you can't start it at all, well, not with lightdm anyway)
[08:29] <boson12> bazhang, i am trying to download/install a software program from the software center. I have not tried it via a terminal
[08:29] <Myrtti> gugas: what kind of result were you expecting
[08:29] <bazhang> boson12, whats the software
[08:29] <gugas> telnet cannot connect to a website?
[08:30] <Myrtti> gugas: it did
[08:30] <theadmin> gugas: You just connected.
[08:31] <gugas> theadmin, i do not receive any data ?
[08:31] <Myrtti> gugas: it's not a browser
[08:31] <Myrtti> gugas: you need to request for the data
[08:32] <Myrtti> gugas: browsers do that part for you transparently
[08:33] <gugas> Myrtti, i know, thx
[08:34] <theadmin> gugas: Try a command-line browser such as elinks for example if  you want to browse the web via CLI
[08:38] <gugas> theadmin,  thx, i`ve  get some data successfully from the server.
[08:39] <mputtr> brontosaurusrex: i just finished install nomachine nx server and at this point, i tried to view the nxserver helpfile.. but it says command no found... i'm assuming i'm missing something here
[08:41] <brontosaurusrex> a helpfile or two ?:P
[08:41] <brontosaurusrex> must be a separated download
[08:41] <mputtr> well, the problem is that it says nxserver: command not found
[08:42] <mputtr> once i install nomachine, it doesn't really explain what I can do to access it...
[08:43] <brontosaurusrex> mputtr, on client install nx client and use your ssh info, it should work if ssh is working
[08:43] <mputtr> oh... how do i bring up my ssh info?
[08:44] <brontosaurusrex> mputtr, i mean the same username password, it uses ssh layer to connect
[08:44] <mputtr> ok. so i'll have to configure ssh with a username and password first
[08:44] <brontosaurusrex> no, if you have keys working, that should work also
[08:45] <mputtr> ug.. keys.. i have no idea how to work those as well... all i know is that it allows you to bypass the need to put in a password
[08:47] <brontosaurusrex> so how do you connect via ssh?
[08:47] <brontosaurusrex> ssh user@host is the usual way
[08:47] <brontosaurusrex> then it will ask for o
[08:47] <mputtr> i've only just installed ssh and made sure it works
[08:47] <brontosaurusrex> password
[08:47] <mputtr> i c
[08:47] <brontosaurusrex> try connecting ...
[08:48] <mputtr> authenticity of host can't be established
[08:48] <brontosaurusrex> ok ...
[08:49] <mputtr> sorry.. i know it's probalby aggravating to be running through something that's probalby basic for you
[08:50] <brontosaurusrex> i just assumed that with "ssh working" you actually tested the connection
[08:50] <mputtr> >.<
[08:50] <mputtr> sorry.. i had no idea
[08:51] <joel135> isn't that just the warning that pops up the first time you connect to a specific server?
[08:51] <mputtr> i'm reading up about keys and stuff right now and trying to see how to create these keys
[08:51] <brontosaurusrex> joel135, yes
[08:51] <brontosaurusrex> mputtr, you can skip the keys now, just enter the password
[08:52] <brontosaurusrex> play with keys later, also you should check and harden ssh server settings if needed
[08:52] <mputtr> i c
[08:52] <mputtr> i typed in my login password, but it says permission denied...-_-
[08:52] <mputtr> is there any other password i'm supposed to know of?
[08:53] <brontosaurusrex> nope
[08:53] <brontosaurusrex> its your username password on server machine
[08:53] <mputtr> aha
[08:54] <mputtr> now it works...
[08:54] <mputtr> i was a freakin dumbass. i mixed up my windows username with the ubuntu username
[08:54] <brontosaurusrex> good, now install nxclient and use the same user:pass via ssh
[08:54] <mputtr> that's why it didn't work.. the original username doesn't exist in ubuntu >.<
[08:54] <mputtr> ok
[08:54] <brontosaurusrex> have to go, have fun ~~
[08:55] <mputtr> I have to set up the Host... where would i find it.
[08:55] <mputtr> bummer
[08:55] <mputtr> i guess i'll thank him later
[08:55] <Sparky712> fatal error: No Wubildr NTFS5: Error: Prefix is not set. >.< how can I fix this?
[08:57] <bazhang> Sparky712, wubi install?
[08:57] <nig81> can't install ubuntu. I it reads all my partitions as "Free Space"
[08:58] <nig81> Even though I have 3 partitions
[08:59] <joel135> nig81: what partitions do you have?
[08:59] <Sparky712> baz, i have tried that, and installing from USB
[08:59] <nig81> 3*ntfs. 2 for win 7, one for ubuntu
[09:01] <joel135> nig81: do you have multiple hard drives? what's the output of running "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" in a terminal?
[09:01] <nig81> joel135. 1HDD, sda
[09:02] <dontknow> nig81, can't you select windows  partition as ntfs while installing?
[09:02] <nig81> joel135. I'm in the installation mode, how can I run the terminal?
[09:02] <nig81> dontknow; none of my partitions are showing up. But I have 3
[09:03] <Sparky712> how empty are they, nig81?
[09:03] <dontknow> nig81, did you select manual disk selection?
[09:04] <nig81> dontknow: Yes. "dev/sda    free space XXX"
[09:05] <dontknow> nig81, reboot and try again
[09:05] <nig81> I did.
[09:06] <dontknow> nig81, or you can completely wipe hdd, dont use windows :P
[09:06] <bazhang> dontknow, thats not helpful
[09:06] <nig81> dontknow. Bad idea, no thanks
[09:07] <bazhang> !behelpful | dontknow
[09:08] <joel135> nig81: when i think of it, don't run the terminal command. instead, reboot and select "try ubuntu" or something (the one other than install). in that live session, install "gparted"
[09:08] <Sparky712> bazhang, as I said, tried both windows installer, and USB. neither worked. though when I tried using the USB install through the Windows installer, it allowed me to install, but wouldnt boot.
[09:08] <joel135> !gparted | nig81
[09:08] <bazhang> Sparky712, woth the usb installer, what was the error if any
[09:09] <nig81> joel135. There is Disk Utility, isn't that ok?
[09:09] <bazhang> Sparky712, also, di d you md5 the iso before "burning" to usb
[09:09] <nig81> joel135. my partitions show in that program.
[09:10] <Sparky712> USB install by itself, it just locks up partway through the casper sequence, once it reaches a certain point. and, I used the USB installer program linked to from the site.
[09:10] <nig81> joel135. Should I mount them? They are all showing up
[09:10] <bazhang> Sparky712, sounds like either a corrupt iso, or a bad 'burn'
[09:11] <Sparky712> how many corrupt ISO's do I have to go through? I have tried at least 4/5 different ISOs now >.<
[09:11] <joel135> nig81: that application should be just as fine. yes, try mounting them so that you can identify which one contains what
[09:11] <bazhang> Sparky712, did you md5 any of them?
[09:12] <nig81> joel135. I can identify them without mounting, I have a 50 GiB partition for W7, a 250 GiB for Files, and a 15 GiB partition I've made for Ubuntu
[09:12] <Sparky712> right, how do I md5 them? I use the installer provided in http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[09:13] <joel135> nig81: if you then shrink one of the partitions by some GBs, say 20, you should be able to install directly to that space
[09:13] <bazhang> !md5 | Sparky712
[09:13] <bazhang> !hashes | Sparky712
[09:13] <Sparky712> thanks... better copy that to something.
[09:13] <joel135> nig81: delete the ubuntu one if it's empty. ubuntu will create a partition on its own when installing
[09:13] <nig81> joel135. I've shrunk my "Files" partition in W7, just before I  tried to install ubuntu
[09:14] <bazhang> Sparky712, if you forget, you can /msg ubottu md5    /msg ubottu hashes and the bot will PM the answer to you
[09:15] <joel135> nig81: right. you don't need to shrink anything then. just follow my instructions above
[09:15] <nig81> joel135. Couldn't delete it, just  formated it as ext4
[09:16] <Sparky712> thanks bazhang
[09:16] <nig81> Joel135. same .... . My whole HDD is showing up as free space
[09:17] <joel135> nig81: i've seen a button to the lower right if the Disk Utility. can't you use that?
[09:17] <nig81> What button?
[09:17] <Sparky712> right, what do I actually use to do it? I don want to go getting the wrong thing.
[09:19] <joel135> nig81: a button to delete the partition. see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwHKNYOraNM 1:05
[09:20] <nig81> joel135. I tried to delete the partition. I was getting errors, that's why I formatted it
[09:20] <nig81> anyways, thanks. Gave up
[09:21] <Sparky712> really? i've been trying since thursday! and still going! im not giving up on getting linux, I want to use it soon as! :D
[09:21] <joel135> nig81: you can't just give up... :(
[09:22] <joel135> nig81: just give us the error message and we'll figure something out
[09:23] <nig81> joel135. Just removed Ubuntu from my usb, I'm now deleting the ext partition in W
[09:23] <Sparky712> bazhang, the md5 is fine... >.<
[09:24] <chakal^-^> que te ocurre Sparky712 ?
[09:26] <Sparky712> chakal, i get the fatal error: no wubildr when I try and install. I also get error: prefix is not set, but apparently everyone gets that. Bazhang was saying I should check my md5sum , but that has turned out fine. >.<
[09:34] <nig81> joel135. Still not working: It's something like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/137315/partitions-are-not-seen-during-installation-of-ubuntu-12-04-64-bit
[09:35] <Sparky712> yeesh, one thing linux needs to sort out is it's installation problems.. >.<
[09:37] <joel135> nig81: do you get the "something else" option seen at http://goo.gl/e8tEb
[09:38] <nig81> I dont
[09:38] <nig81> oh
[09:38] <nig81> I do
[09:38] <nig81> I do get: Something else and Erase Disk and Install ubuntu
[09:39] <joel135> nig81, that's great! now try something else
[09:39] <nig81> joel135. That's what I did, lol
[09:39] <nig81> from the beginning.
[09:39] <joel135> nig81: do you get a /dev/sda1 tree of partitions?
[09:39] <nig81> I get: Sda and Sdb. My hdd and my Flash driver
[09:40] <nig81> there are no partitions in Sda
[09:40] <nig81> it says, free space
[09:41] <nig81> joel135. Found this: http://nitinpant.hubpages.com/hub/Repair-Partition-Table . It's exactly my problem.
[09:44] <yellabs-r2> hello there
[09:44] <joe28662> So I'm having a bit of trouble with sound... every once in a while it will stop working, but then comes back when I set the volume to zero, then bring it back to a normal level. Can anyone give me a hand?
[09:44] <yellabs-r2> is there something wrong with repo servers ?
[09:44] <yellabs-r2> i get errors
[09:44] <yellabs-r2> are they offline ?
[09:45] <Sparky712> yellabs, please keep it to a small amount of lines, dont use enter as punctuation.
[09:46] <yellabs-r2> does some one know if the repository server are having problems right now, getting errrors ( used us servers and nl servers )
[09:47] <chakal^-^> baja via torrents YeahRight
[09:47] <Sparky712> I am having installation problems. fatal error: no wubildr. md5 checksums are fine
[09:47] <chakal^-^> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[09:48] <joel135> yellabs-r2: the se servers work for me, but that's all I know
[09:48] <yellabs-r2> ok
[09:49] <yellabs-r2> thanks
[09:54] <joe28662> can anyone help me with my sound issue?
[09:58] <Prippos> ciao
[09:58] <Prippos> !list
[10:03] <i45> fail2ban help please? regex-check: ok. client-status:ok. logs timestamps : ok. everything is running, but nothing gets banned
[10:04] <hydrox24> !ask | joel135
[10:08] <arash> Hi again :)
[10:09] <it> hello
[10:10] <it> is there anybody to help me ?
[10:11] <lugkhast> Just ask your question -- there'll probably be someone who can help you
[10:11] <it> i had gone to system menu
[10:11] <it> and disable preference menu item
[10:11] <it> in desktop user
[10:11] <it> now i want to get it again
[10:11] <it> how can i get it ?
[10:12] <shoine> hi, what is the terminal speed in baud?
[10:13] <it> i had gone to system menu and disable preference menu item in desktop user, now i want to get it again, how can i get it ?
[10:14] <Applesouce> Hello, I need some help. I want to tether my eth0 connection with my wlan0 to my android phone :D
[10:19] <dom_> hello,who can tell me how to install matlab on ubuntu?thanks a lot
[10:19] <bobx> how to extract gz file which is encrypted?
[10:19] <belgianguy> I can't maximize a window in an external monitor
[10:19] <bobx> i want to see its content
[10:19] <species_4981> dom_ you might find that Octave is a good (free) equivalent ...almost all commands are synonymous, apparently. Matlab itself would need Wine
[10:20] <belgianguy> it always maximizes into the laptop screen, even if it's window is on the external monitor
[10:20] <belgianguy> using ATI drivers
[10:20] <belgianguy> (and amdcccle crashes a lot)
[10:21] <belgianguy> anyone know how to get a window to maximize in the monitor it was started in?
[10:21] <belgianguy> or what I should change in Catalyst Control Center?
[10:21] <dom_> oh,thanks a lot.however,i have to use matlab.because we have a match.
[10:22] <dom_> can not use other software
[10:23] <species_4981> dom_ I recommend you look into "Wine" which is available via Synaptic, and allows some Windows programs to run in linux. There are #Wine IRC channels to help - I don't know much about it other than I installed it and I use it for a few things
[10:24] <dom_> ok,i will follow what you have said,thanks again!
[10:24] <dom_> bye
[10:24] <species_4981> bye
[10:24] <nig81> hmm. Guys, my external usb HDD is not working on ubuntu
[10:24]  * species_4981 is away: I'm busy
[10:24] <Applesouce> So, is there already a Solution to tether your Connection you got on eth0 through your Wlan-Card? or do you have to programm that by yourself
[10:24] <Applesouce> I didn't find anything
[10:26] <ssta> Applesouce: maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing can help?
[10:27] <antistrom> hi, i'm using 3.2.3 in precise, and when i want to add google calendar, there is no choice, only on this pc, in the web and wheater are available for new calendars
[10:27] <antistrom> evolution
[10:27] <Applesouce> Ok thank you I'll read that through the day
[10:28] <Sparky712> keep getting Fatal error: no wubildr. md5 checksum is fine. how can I fix it?
[10:31] <hajime_> Just testing ...
[10:33] <hydrox24> nig81: Hi! can you describe the issue in any more detail?
[10:33] <Sparky712> welcome back nig81. still having as many problems as me i see?
[10:35] <Sparky712> also, I guess I shall have to try mint, the second best linux distribution.. seeing as I am having such a problem with ubuntu
[10:35] <hydrox24> antistrom: are you trying to use google-calendar with GNOME SHELL?
[10:36] <antistrom> hydrox24: yes i use gnome shell, but i wanted to add the calendar directly to evolution
[10:37] <Larcyn> Could someone help me with ProFTPD?
[10:37] <Applesouce> What do you need?
[10:38] <Larcyn> Everything is working properly, but I can't connect with filezilla
[10:38] <hydrox24> antistrom: antistrom well I find this excellent (doesn't use evolution) http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/google-calendar-gnome-shell-integration.html
[10:38] <SunTsu> Larcyn: how would we know withould knowing your problem?
[10:38] <Larcyn> I can connect through any web FTP, but not filezilla
[10:39] <nig81> Sparky712. Yes, my stuff seems to be incompatible.
[10:39] <Sparky712> -.-' mint just doesnt look as good out the box as ubuntu seems to
[10:39] <Sparky712> judging from the screenshots
[10:39] <Larcyn> does anyone know what my problem can be?
[10:40] <Larcyn> I can't connect to Filezilla with my problems
[10:40] <Sparky712> but unless i can sort out the fatal error: no wubildr, im gonna have to try it. my MD5 checksums are fine. can anyone help me before I have to try mint?
[10:40] <Larcyn> But I can connect to other FTP clients with the same FTP information
[10:40] <SunTsu> Larcyn: Not without more information about it. Could be a problem with filezilla's config, could be a proftpd problem - does ftp work with other sites?
[10:41] <Sparky712> which, isnt supposed to be a threat, i just dont really want to have to try mint.
[10:41] <nig81> Sparky712. On my main pc I've switched to Mint, from Windows, I'm happy with it
[10:41] <Larcyn> SunTsu: Yes, my FTP information works with other clients, but not with filezilla. that's the problem
[10:41] <Sparky712> well yeah, but it still has a windows feel to the look of it.
[10:41] <SunTsu> Larcyn: that's not what I asked. Does filezilla work with a different ftp site?
[10:42] <Larcyn> SunTsu: Yes it does.
[10:42] <Larcyn> SunTsu: I've tested multiple ftp sites
[10:42] <Larcyn> SunTsu: And they all works nice
[10:43] <SunTsu> Larcyn: did you look into ProFTP's log files to see what's going wrong?
[10:43] <SunTsu> Larcyn: and: What exactly do you mean by saying "doesn't work" - what exactly is happening?
[10:43] <Ormie> hello, what is the lines:seconds of floodbot to consider as flood?
[10:44] <Larcyn> SunTsu: My output from the connection is: ftp failed to retrieve directory listing
[10:44] <Larcyn> SunTsu: And I only get that error when I use filezilla, other clients isn't outputting that error
[10:44] <SunTsu> Larcyn: sounds like an active/passive ftp issue. Did you setup filezilla for passive ftp?
[10:45] <Larcyn> SunTsu: Nope, I don't know how to do that
[10:45] <SunTsu> Larcyn: I don't neither, filezilla's docs should know
[10:46] <Larcyn> SunTsu: Ok, thank you, i'm going to read them :)
[10:47] <CoolaNisse> I managed to use ln -s to bind my modem1 to ttyacm0 .. now i dont want this anymore but i dont know how to revert or find modem1
[10:48] <nubits> hello,
[10:48] <SunTsu> CoolaNisse: rm modem1
[10:48] <nubits> does ubuntu 12.04's terminal support 256 colors?
[10:49] <nubits> tput colors gives me 8 on my terminal, anyone know how to change this?
[10:49] <SunTsu> CoolaNisse: If you don't know how to find it: use locate modem1 oder find / -name modem1 - but frankly, symlinking device file times are over some years
[10:49] <CoolaNisse> okay and then rebind?
[10:49] <skyl> hmm, so a stick of memory works in one slot and not another .. bad motherboard?
[10:50] <CoolaNisse> SunTsu, yes but i didnt find a solution :(
[10:50] <CoolaNisse> sunTsu; will modem1 recreate?
[10:50] <SunTsu> CoolaNisse: for what exactly?
[10:50] <CoolaNisse> running playsms/sms3 for a smsgateway
[10:50] <SunTsu> CoolaNisse: you might want to try writing longer sentences which make clear what you are talking about
[10:50] <CoolaNisse> symlinking modem to ttyusb0 worked
[10:51] <CoolaNisse> If I use rm modem1, will symlinks dissapear?
[10:51] <Sparky712> when I try and install Ubuntu, or (the one time i managed to install) boot it, i get the fatal error: No wubildr. my md5 checksums are fine, what can I do to fix this! :)
[10:52] <reisio> Sparky712: using wubi?
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> Sparky712  wubi?
[10:52] <Sparky712> yup. also tried using usb installer.
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[10:52] <reisio> Sparky712: you probably didn't the same errors, though
[10:52] <SunTsu> CoolaNisse: could you please try not to be as terse as possible and write what exactly you are trying to do? In one line, with more than 3 wrords?
[10:53] <SunTsu> words even
[10:53] <Sparky712> actually, I did.
[10:53] <reisio> Sparky712: you got an error about wubi without even using it?
[10:53] <CoolaNisse> SunTsu: This is the error given by smsd.log .. i have no ttyacmo connected only ttyusb.. but i had before ttyacmo (but nothing remain in config) .. look here the error  modem1: Cannot open serial port /dev/ttyACM0, error: No such file or directory
[10:54] <Sparky712> the one time it managed to install, was a mix between wubi and usb. because pure usb just freezes in the casper screen. >.<
[10:54] <nubits> anyone? terminal colors?
[10:54] <SunTsu> CoolaNisse: So there is no ttyACM0, then you might want to configure smsd to use /dev/usb0
[10:55] <SunTsu> /dev/ttyusb0 even
[10:55] <CoolaNisse> SunTsu: That I have.. but as I told you earlier  I created a stone-age symlink which I don't know how to remove. Smsd is configured to use modem1 which points to ttyacm0
[10:56] <excalibr> How do you restart unity shell without logging out/in?
[10:56] <CoolaNisse> create a script to do it on bootup? :o
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> nubits  edit - profile preferences
[10:56] <Sparky712> so yeah, use wubi, get the fatal error every time. dont use wubi, get as far as the installation menu. >.<
[10:57] <reisio> excalibr: what for
[10:57] <SunTsu> CoolaNisse: No. You didn't. But anyway, I already told you that you can remove that link using rm modem1 - or /dev/modem1 - and then link /dev/ttyusb0 to it, just the ways you did before
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> Sparky712  wubi is a pseudo-installation *inside* windows, not alongside it
[10:58] <CoolaNisse> SunTsu: PEace be with you. The Java client is not my favorite one! =)
[10:58] <nubits> MonkeyDust, i didn't mean that, it seems like the terminal only supports 8 colors instead of 256
[10:58] <nubits> 'tput colors' outputs 8
[10:58] <Sparky712> yes. but I have trouble whichever approach I have tried.. :/
[10:59] <SunTsu> CoolaNisse: I wish I would understand more than a third of your sentences, they badly lack context
[11:02] <excalibr> nubits: it's set to 8 colors by default but you can enable 256 colors as simple as changing your TERM var
[11:02] <grandrew> .о №знерщт
[11:02] <grandrew> sry
[11:04] <nubits> excalibr, you mean, like export TERM="xterm-256color" ?
[11:04] <excalibr> yup
[11:04] <Sparky712> but monkeydust, I cant even get as far as installing it with USB. it gets to a point on the casper screen, and stops. Wubi gets further, then freezes, after the wubildr error
[11:05] <skyl> 1 stick of memory, POSTs and boots fine in one slot and not in another.  Could it be anything but a bad motherboard?
[11:05] <nubits> alright, thanks
[11:07] <excalibr> but be sure to check if you have xterm-256color term before you set that. i think it's shipped by default on most modern distro
[11:07] <excalibr> find /lib/terminfo/ -iname *256*
[11:09] <libho> hie guys any idea of how to turn ultimate edition 3.2 into a wifi hotspot?
[11:10] <Sparky712> ultimate edition 3.2 of....
[11:10] <ikonia> libho: ultimate edition is not an ubuntu product, and not supported here
[11:10] <libho> ikonia where is it supported?
[11:11] <SunTsu> libho: what is it?
[11:11] <Sparky712> whats ultimate edition 3.2 part of?
[11:11] <ikonia> indigo_: read their website for support info
[11:11] <ikonia> Sparky712: it's an ubuntu respin
[11:11] <Sparky712> did you have to pay for it?
[11:12] <Sparky712> because ubuntu doesnt have editions.
[11:12] <ikonia> Sparky712: no, it's not a paid product. It's just an unofficial re-spin
[11:12] <Sparky712> ahh, just unofficial.. libho, unnofficial, so no support from the official website.
[11:13] <Sparky712> you might try search engines for help though
[11:13] <libho> sparky712 thanks and sorry hey
[11:13] <ikonia> Sparky712: they have information on their website, as I've point libho to,
[11:14] <Sparky712> i meant the official ubuntu site, ikonia! I'll try and be clearer next time :D
[11:16] <Sparky712> right. Used wubi installer, get Fatal error: no wubildr when I try and install.  when I use USB, it freezes at the casper screen. how can I fix one of these problems?
[11:17] <ikonia> Sparky712: that sounds like the CD has not burnt correctly
[11:18] <Sparky712> ikonia... wubi installer... and USB install. no CDs involved.
[11:18] <Sparky712> the ISO md5 checksum is fine, also.
[11:18] <ikonia> Sparky712: you are not using wubi from the ubuntu CD ?
[11:19] <Sparky712> no. Ive used the installer from the site, that ends up with the fatal error. and ive tried the USB install, that hasnt worked either.
[11:19] <ikonia> Sparky712: from what site ?
[11:19] <Sparky712> as for using a CD.... I dont have any.
[11:19] <Sparky712> and ubuntu.com
[11:19] <ikonia> Sparky712: where can you download wubi from the ubuntu site ?
[11:20] <Sparky712> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[11:20] <ikonia> Sparky712: found it
[11:20] <ikonia> Sparky712: when you are running wubi do you have interenet connection ?
[11:21] <Foxtrot> can anyone help me please..........
[11:21] <Sparky712> I have the internet running whilst is installing yes. however, I have also attempted putting an ISO in the same folder with it, so it uses that. internet download, casper freeze. iso, fatal error. >.<
[11:21] <ikonia> Foxtrot: you need to ask a question to get help
[11:22] <ikonia> Sparky712: that is not something I'd suggest
[11:22] <ikonia> however I'm not massivly aware of the ins and outs of wubi as I don't use it/rate it
[11:22] <Sparky712> the site actually suggested it somewhere.. >.< im not having much luck with ubuntu
[11:24] <Foxtrot> by mistake i typed rm -rf /* in ubuntu terminal with root permissions..... i only wanted know that did it only deleted my ubuntu root or did it my whole harddisk???
[11:24] <Sparky712> but yes, I try a solo USB install, so it is not involving windows, and it still fails. so I dont know what to do. A mate is going to try burning a disc copy for me, but... >.<
[11:25] <ikonia> Foxtrot: it deleted every thing
[11:25] <Sparky712> foxtrot. is ubuntu on the same hard disk as what you are using now?
[11:25] <falco_gw> Hi, my compiz is working perfect with cube desktop, but the desktop is not 3d and the settings for 3d are missing, can anyone help me with that?
[11:25] <Sparky712> because if it deleted everything... how is he still talking?
[11:26] <Foxtrot> it was on another partition on same hard drive
[11:26] <ikonia> Sparky712: it can't remove things that are in use
[11:26] <ikonia> Foxtrot: re-install
[11:26] <Foxtrot> i was running it alongside with windows
[11:28] <Foxtrot> and by the way i can't access my computer cause when i start it , i end up with a grub rescue point
[11:29] <ikonia> Foxtrot: you need to re-install ubuntu
[11:29] <Foxtrot>  my windows partition damaged or not???is
[11:29] <ikonia> Foxtrot: your Windows partition should be fine
[11:29] <Orpheon> err:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly (using GL renderer "GeForce GTX 460 SE/PCIe/SSE2", version "2.1.2 NVIDIA 295.53").
[11:30] <ikonia> Foxtrot: you can use the Windows install CD to reocver the Windows boot sector to remove grub if you want
[11:30] <Orpheon> I've installed the nvidia-current drivers through the additional drivers app
[11:30] <Foxtrot> ok how can i do that???
[11:30] <Foxtrot> with fixmbr commands???
[11:30] <ikonia> Foxtrot: correct, the guys in ##windows can give you more details
[11:31] <Orpheon> a while ago, wine complained it couldn't find OpenGL, so I found this workaround: To preload LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/nvidia-current/libGL.so
[11:31] <Orpheon> this fix now doesn't work anymore
[11:31] <Orpheon> and that error I posted above the result
[11:31] <Orpheon> any ideas?
[11:31] <Foxtrot> thanks.....ikonia
[11:32] <falco_gw> Hi, my compiz is working perfect with cube desktop, but the desktop is not 3d and the settings for 3d are missing, can anyone help me with that?
[11:32] <aashu_dwivedi> the quality of webcam in my ubuntu laptop is very bad,while it was very good in windows . is there a solution to it or webcams in general suck on linux ?
[11:33] <Foxtrot> one last question, can't i use supergrubdisk2 to boot into windows???
[11:33] <OerHeks> Orpheon my guess is thatt 12.,04 is multi-arch so that lib32 line will not work
[11:33] <rileyp> Could someone please look if they have the time at my pastebin of mythfrontend opening and some playback and tell me if everything is as it should be  http://pastebin.com/EDaRjCgP or am i compromising the best possible output somehow
[11:33] <Orpheon> OerHeks, so how do I make wine work?
[11:35] <OerHeks> Orpheon, idk, gave you the cause of this error.
[11:35] <miniminiyo> Orpheon , apt-get install wine and after click in wine,its work alone
[11:35] <azi> after the last rutine update (the one update manager performes) my net stoped working with no reason.. is there any bug report about this?
[11:35] <azi> i don't seem to be able to find anyone with the same problem
[11:35] <Orpheon> miniminiyo, $ sudo apt-get install wine
[11:35] <Orpheon> Reading package lists... Done
[11:35] <Orpheon> Building dependency tree
[11:35] <Orpheon> Reading state information... Done
[11:35] <Orpheon> wine is already the newest version.
[11:35] <FloodBot1> Orpheon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <ancarius> hey. how can i use HDMI with gnome?
[11:37] <reisio> ancarius: what graphics?
[11:39] <Foxtrot> can anyone tell wheather i can use supergrubdisk2 to boot into my windows when ubuntu is damaged and grub rescue error???
[11:41] <Arash> Hi ;)
[11:41] <computer> .
[11:42] <computer> try www.HackersClub.NET
[11:42] <VaniFriss> "Eject" and "Safely remove" are separate menu items for some reason. What the hell?
[11:43] <OerHeks> VaniFriss, , so you have to choose.
[11:43] <eth0> there are problems if i stick to 10.04 LTS ?
[11:43] <VaniFriss> ...
[11:44] <VaniFriss> What the hell could possibly be the difference between the two?
[11:44] <eth0> 12.04 make's my computer drive crazy.
[11:44] <VaniFriss> Fatal user interface mistake.
[11:44] <Orpheon> eth0, not for some time
[11:44] <Orpheon> there will be some in a year, I think
[11:44] <eth0> Orpheon - untill 2013 , when the support expires. what do you think ?
[11:44] <gobbo> ciao a tutti
[11:45] <genii-around> VaniFriss: Eject just disconnects the thing. Safely remove synchronises all the files and makes sure no unwritten data in a buffer that didn't get to the device yet
[11:45] <Orpheon> eth0, uhh..yes, and? I don't understand your question.
[11:45] <VaniFriss> genii-around: Um...
[11:45] <VaniFriss> Why would "Eject" not do that?
[11:45] <eth0> i mean, there any problems if i remain to 10.04 ? i do not want to upgrade to 12.04 because makes my computer work bad
[11:46] <eth0> there are **
[11:46] <genii-around> VaniFriss: I suspect it's just a holdover from ejecting the tray on CDs
[11:48] <AndyKing> Hi
[11:48] <Wheemp_> Problems installing Ubuntu on a machine that doesn't have a CD-ROM, tried installing with USB memory but get an error on the lack of CD-ROM which cause the installation to cancel. So any suggestions on how i can get an Unbuntu server installation running?
[11:49] <AndyKing> UUID of disk store where
[11:49] <Tux[Qyou]> I think that you need legit version of ubuntu
[11:49] <Wheemp> Tux[Qyou]: was that an answer to my question?
[11:51] <reisio> AndyKing: sudo blkid
[11:51] <insanetrolllogic> quit
[11:51] <tizzio> ciao
[11:51] <tizzio> c'è nessuno?
[11:51] <insanetrolllogic> ciao tizzio
[11:51] <tizzio> mi servirebbe un aiuto per installare ubuntu
[11:52] <genii-around> !it
[11:52] <tizzio> sono su ubuntu-it
[11:52] <tizzio> ma non c'è nbessuno :|
[11:52] <tizzio> ok, sorry
[11:52] <insanetrolllogic> io parlo italiano ma non so un granchè
[11:52] <tizzio> can you help me to install ubuntu?
[11:53] <insanetrolllogic> che problemi hai ad installare ubuntu?
[11:53] <reisio> #ubuntu-it
[11:53] <tizzio> vorrei sapere come fare
[11:53] <genii-around> insanetrolllogic: If you want to help them in italian, please take it to #ubuntu-it
[11:54] <tizzio> SONO SU UBUNTU-IT diamine
[11:54] <tizzio> ma è vuoto!
[11:54] <tizzio> ubuntu-it is empty!
[11:54] <tizzio> :|
[11:54] <genii-around> tizzio: You can get help here in english
[11:54] <tizzio> how to insert .iso image in CD?
[11:54] <insanetrolllogic> genii-around i'm just trying out irssi and i'm not really sure what i'm doing
[11:55] <Red> can anyone tell me that wheather i can use supergrubdisk2 to boot in winfows with my ubuntu damaged and grub rescue point??
[11:55] <insanetrolllogic> how do i shift beetwen channels?
[11:55] <genii-around> tizzio: You mean how to make a cd from an iso image, when in ubuntu?
[11:55] <osirisx11> i've somehow removed my whole top menu bar on gnome-session-failover, can anyone please advise on how i can restored it? i tried everything on this page with no results http://askubuntu.com/questions/133647/gnome-panel-has-multiple-rows-how-to-undo-that/134058
[11:55] <genii-around> insanetrolllogic: /join #channelname
[11:55] <tizzio> i have an iso image, i want put into a CD and install it
[11:55] <tizzio> how to do ?
[11:56] <genii-around> tizzio: What aoperating system are you making the cd from?
[11:56] <Wheemp> tizzio: use a cd-r/dvd-r program and burn it as iso
[11:56] <insanetrolllogic> on which system are you?
[11:56] <tizzio> windows xp
[11:56] <tizzio> i want to install it in another partition
[11:56] <tizzio> it's possible?
[11:56] <tizzio> i have only "C:\\" now...
[11:57] <insanetrolllogic> you just have to burn it with nero or some other program
[11:57] <tizzio> okay
[11:57] <Wheemp> tizzio: You will be able to make a double boot once you start to install it
[11:57] <Wheemp> tizzio: use www.imgburn.com, small program thats really fast for burning iso files
[11:57] <insanetrolllogic> then you start up your computer with the cd in it
[11:58] <genii-around> tizzio: I recommend http://cdburnerxp.se/en/home for a free cd burning program. Then you make the cd, boot the machine to the cd, and it will guide you. You can make the C: drive into two partitions and put Ubuntu on the second partition
[11:58] <tizzio> ok, double boot requires 2 partitions?
[11:58] <genii-around> tizzio: No
[11:58] <insanetrolllogic> and press the buttons you see on start up for changing the boot order
[11:58] <insanetrolllogic> then the cd will take you from there
[11:58] <tizzio> sorry
[11:58] <computer> try www.HackersClub.NET
[11:58] <genii-around> tizzio: But it is usually better if you do have separate partitions
[11:58] <tizzio> how to create a second partition?
[11:58] <tizzio> in windows xp
[11:59] <genii-around> tizzio: It is much better to make the second partition from the boot Cd
[11:59] <tizzio> in windows 7 i know... but in xp there isn't an internal partition maker
[11:59] <Wheemp> tizzio: you will be able to choose that form installation
[11:59] <tizzio> i havent windows xp cp
[11:59] <Wheemp> from
[11:59] <tizzio> cd*
[11:59] <tizzio> ahh ok
[11:59] <genii-around> tizzio: You do not require a windows cd
[12:00] <tizzio> with ubuntu i be able to create a second partition?
[12:00] <Wheemp> tizzio: yes
[12:00] <tizzio> ok
[12:00] <genii-around> tizzio: You only require to make the ubuntu CD, boot the computer to the Ubuntu CD, partition the hard drive from the CD, install from the CD to new partition
[12:00] <josee> anyone know how to export code highlighted code to latex from gedit?
[12:01] <tizzio> "partition the hard drive from the CD" <--- How to do this?
[12:01] <tizzio> sorry i'm italian
[12:01] <tizzio> i don't understand..
[12:02] <Wheemp> tizzio: when you got your CD with that iso file in it you boot up from the CD
[12:02] <aashu_dwivedi> how do i check which webcam driver am i using ?
[12:03] <Wheemp> tizzio: first off you will be able to choose what you want to do, then you choose to install Ubuntu, after that (A few steps later) you will get to the Partition part
[12:03] <Wheemp> tizzio: once there you will get an option to make a dual boot from Lilo
[12:03] <tizzio> ok
[12:03] <Wheemp> tizzio: which mean you can choose which OS to start up from
[12:03] <ikonia> do not use lilo
[12:03] <tizzio> ok wheemp
[12:03] <Wheemp> or whatever boot you choose to use
[12:03] <tizzio> 4 months ago
[12:03] <tizzio> i tried to install ubuntu
[12:04] <osirisx11> i've somehow removed my whole top menu bar on gnome-session-failover, can anyone please advise on how i can restored it? i tried everything on this page with no results http://askubuntu.com/questions/133647/gnome-panel-has-multiple-rows-how-to-undo-that/134058
[12:04] <computer> try-----------------> www.HackersClub.NET
[12:04] <ikonia> computer: please don't spam
[12:05] <tizzio> and i can't choose a new partition to install ubuntu, becouse there was only C:\\
[12:05] <insane> tizzio sei riuscito o vuoi aiuto in italiano di là?
[12:05] <Wheemp> tizzio: you need to make a new one
[12:05] <Wheemp> tizzio: C:\\ is the partition
[12:05] <tizzio> ok
[12:05] <tizzio> C is windows partition
[12:05] <Wheemp> if you are going to use a dual boot you need more than one with one installed OS on each
[12:05] <Wheemp> yes
[12:06] <Wheemp> and then like d: will be ubuntu
[12:06] <tizzio> i want ubuntu in a "D"  or "E" partition
[12:06] <Wheemp> Yes, then you need to choose to make a new partition and then install Ubuntu on that one
[12:06] <Kikody> Hello everybody
[12:06] <tizzio> in ubuntu iso -> cd... i can create with this cd... a new partition?
[12:06] <tizzio> or i must do it manual?
[12:07] <Wheemp> tizzio: it will be a part of the installation
[12:07] <Wheemp> tizzio: got nothing to do with the CD
[12:07] <genii-around> tizzio: You can create new partition from the cd
[12:07] <tizzio> when i'm installing ubuntu
[12:07] <aashu_dwivedi> can any one help me with my webcam ?
[12:08] <tizzio> the installation program ask to me for create a new partition?
[12:08] <genii-around> tizzio: The Ubuntu installer from the CD has a partitoning program on it. this will let you resize the existing C: drive and make room.
[12:08] <genii-around> tizzio: Yes, exactly
[12:08] <tizzio> OOOOH THANK YOU
[12:08] <tizzio> :)
[12:10] <Wheemp> So no one had any suggestions on my case? :/
[12:10] <osirisx11> i've deleted my top bar on gnome, how can i bring it back?
[12:11] <yharrow> Who can help me set up nvidia drivers?
[12:11] <genii-around> Wheemp: Do you have another machine handy which DOES have a cd drive?
[12:11] <Wheemp> genii-around: Yes
[12:11] <yharrow> Who can help me install Nvidia drivers
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[12:11] <genii-around> !nvidia | yharrow
[12:12]  * genii-around slides Dr_Willis a coffee
[12:12] <Wheemp> genii-around: but i wont start to install a tftpd..
[12:12] <genii-around> Wheemp: You can install things to the livecd desktop, like pxe boot server
[12:13] <Kikody> I tried to install Ubuntu on an 8GB USB Stick. The installation was finished correctly (as the message was). But when i boot Ubuntu it only shows a command line where i can work with ash. Has anybody an idea why?
[12:13] <reisio> Kikody: was it the desktop version?
[12:14] <Wheemp> genii-around: Im not able to use another computer to install it. Setting up server's etc wasn't what i was looking for..
[12:14] <nepol> my ubuntu froze this morning all of a sudden
[12:14] <Kikody> I installed from an USB Livesystem (desktop version) and started the preselected in grub.
[12:14] <nepol> gibberish showed up on the screen and i was unable to use anything
[12:14] <nepol> what's the problem
[12:15] <genii-around> Wheemp: What is currently on the machine, Windows?
[12:15] <jason_> Hello everyone
[12:15] <nepol> although my previous kernel versions don't show any problem
[12:15] <reisio> jason_: hiyo
[12:15] <reisio> Kikody: you actually see 'ash$' ?
[12:17] <nepol> how to get out in these kinds of freezes
[12:17] <genii-around> Wheemp: eg: you can do the wubi installer from inside Windows, then migrate it to an actual partition
[12:17] <nepol> I just overclocked my cpu
[12:18] <Kikody> reisio: i  saw something like <initfram> on the left of the command line and over it in another line stands something like "system build in shell ash"
[12:18] <Wheemp> genii-around: 3 500gb RAID 5 HDD's
[12:18] <Wheemp> genii-around: nothing on them
[12:18] <Wheemp> brand new
[12:18] <Wheemp> genii-around: i thought i would try out ubuntu server version instead of just running debian but it looks like i will skip that part soon..
[12:19] <reisio> Kikody: probably 'initramfs'
[12:19] <reisio> Kikody: and what do you get in the end?
[12:20] <genii-around> Wheemp: With no OS on it, and the usb being flaky I think your best bet here is still to do the PXE booting from a second machine, which is hosting the cd rom to install from ( or acting as an apt-proxy)
[12:20] <jason_> I am trying to transfer files from my laptop to my external drive.  Error message : Error in splicing - File too large.  Happens at about 4.3Gb.. any ideas on how to get around this?
[12:21] <Wheemp> genii-around: Any clue why USB installation is even recommended when it seems like it actually not working? it works fine on machine with an CD-ROM even if you don't use it
[12:21] <Kikody> reisio: it happens nothing; there was a line "type help for build in commands"
[12:21] <Wheemp> genii-around: but for R servers etc it works like shit, since you can't install it
[12:21] <reisio> Kikody: might be in the GRUB console
[12:21] <reisio> Kikody: what does 'help' say?
[12:22] <Kikody> reisio: it prints a list of commands
[12:22] <genii-around> Wheemp: A lot of times it depends on the individual machine's bios, or sometimes if it was an iso that got converted something went wrong and it still oooks for a cd drive etc.
[12:22] <reisio> Kikody: how about 'help | head -1'?
[12:22] <osirisx11> i've deleted my top bar on gnome, how can i bring it back?
[12:23] <Wheemp> genii-around: tried like 5 different iso to usb programs but it still give the same error.. same with different computers
[12:23] <Wheemp> Ah well, im going back to things i know work..
[12:23] <Wheemp> thanks for help
[12:23] <genii-around> Wheemp: Did you check the md5sum? PErhaps original iso download was bad
[12:24] <genii-around> Hm
[12:24] <Kikody> reisio: i have to try that; i´ll be back in 5 minutes (have to start Linux on the same machine)
[12:28] <jason_> I am trying to transfer files from my laptop to my Freecom external drive.  Error message - Error in splicing: File too large.  It happens at about 4.3Gb.  Any ideas on how to get around this...?
[12:28] <alankila> jason_: maybe you hit the vfat 4 GB file size limit
[12:29] <jason_> vfat?
[12:30] <Kikody> reisio: 'help| head -1' produces the message "head: not found"
[12:31] <reisio> okay, probably grub then :p
[12:31] <LittleBallOfHate> jason_: yeah fat doesn't do big files. needs to be etx2-4 or ntfs
[12:32] <alankila> it's shocking that there is no filesystem other than ntfs that appears to be truly cross-platform and which also supports > 4 GB files
[12:32] <Kikody> reisio: so although i can choose the system grub does not exist?
[12:32] <jason_> Is the problem on the hard drive or within Linux?  Or both?
[12:32] <reisio> Kikody: it's probably just confused about where your system is
[12:32] <alankila> IDK if one of those cd/dvd filesystems could be used for rewritable media, they might also work
[12:32] <reisio> Kikody: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstall_from_the_LiveCD
[12:32] <alankila> probably not
[12:32] <LittleBallOfHate> jason_: it's a problem with microsoft's silly disk format FAT
[12:33] <reisio> Kikody: you want to install GRUB to the USB device (/dev/sda# something like that), and not to a hard disk
[12:33] <Kikody> reisio: yes
[12:34] <jason_> I assume that I can change to another format then?
[12:34] <Kikody> reisio: in the installation dialog i chose "sdc" -> the usb stick for grub installation
[12:34] <LittleBallOfHate> jason_: sure, format it
[12:35] <jason_> Thank you for that... Seems the problem was not as big as I had initially thought..
[12:35] <Brun0L3z> Hello
[12:35] <reisio> Kikody: well you might need to use the first partition instead
[12:35] <alankila> jason_: sure, but the story is that you have to likely sacrifice some amount of compatibility if you change away. ext* family makes it linux only, ntfs is icky for everybody except microsoft, and vfat has that file size limit issue. So pick your poison.
[12:35] <reisio> Kikody: it might think it isn't sdc anymore
[12:36] <Brun0L3z> I have ubuntu installed already and will really love to install windows 7 on a virtual machine, I have tried kvm to no success maybe bcos the cd i have has a .exe install of a .iso file any ideas?
[12:37] <Kikody> reisio: what do you mean by "first partition" ? the one on my hard disk?
[12:37] <reisio> Kikody: on the usb disk, yes
[12:37] <jason_> Thankyou.. I will look into all the options before I do it...
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> Brun0L3z  use vbox, it's easier and better supported here
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> Brun0L3z  that's virtualbox
[12:38] <Brun0L3z> Yes i have tried virtual box
[12:39] <alankila> I've installed windows 7 on kvm though, it boots .iso just fine. Hacked through the process using vnc for console and modified the xml by hand to have cd-rom as iso file. A bit painful, but manageable.
[12:39] <Brun0L3z> but it tells me i cannot install cos i am missing a kernel or something
[12:39] <Kikody> reisio: i only have two partitions on the usb stick: one for the linux system and one linux swap
[12:39] <alankila> and by xml I mean I use libvirt-bin
[12:39] <nepol> Brun0L3 you mean you have .iso file packed inside of a .exe?
[12:39] <reisio> Kikody: you could try the first
[12:40] <nepol> Brun0 r .exe inside iso
[12:40] <Arash> !ubuntu
[12:40] <ccvvcc> How can I save gnome-terminal output after running commands
[12:40] <Brun0L3z> While installing ubuntu i did not create a partition and vbox keeps telling me i can;t run it
[12:40] <aashu_dwivedi> how can i check  which webcam driver am i using ?
[12:41] <Kikody> reisio: ok, i´ll try the reinstall of grub; can i do it from a live usb stick as well?
[12:41] <reisio> Kikody: yup
[12:41] <LittleBallOfHate> ccvvcc: you're interested in output redirection
[12:41] <LittleBallOfHate> ccvvcc: command > filename.txt
[12:42] <Arash> reisio : how can I run a HTTP service on my ubuntu ?
[12:42] <Kikody> reisio: ok :-) i´ll be back in ~10 minutes
[12:42] <LittleBallOfHate> ccvvcc: saves output from command into filename.txt
[12:42] <reisio> Arash: a web server?
[12:42] <Arash> yep ;)
[12:42] <Arash> wanna run vbulletin
[12:42] <Arash> to test some functions
[12:42] <reisio> wow, I didn't realize ubuntuforums.org ran vbulletin
[12:42] <reisio> sad
[12:43] <reisio> Arash: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:43] <LittleBallOfHate> reisio: don't be sad, it's ok
[12:43] <reisio> it's not free software
[12:43] <Arash> vb's good :D love It actually
[12:43] <reisio> it's good, but not so much better than the free alternatives to make it worth choosing
[12:44] <osirisx11> i've deleted my top bar on gnome, how can i bring it back?
[12:45] <nepol> Brun0L3z you don't need separate partition for vbox images just free space
[12:45] <Arash> reisio I guess I'd need Ubuntu Server
[12:45] <reisio> Arash: no no
[12:45] <Arash> to run HTTP Server , right ?
[12:45] <reisio> Arash: nope
[12:46] <reisio> Arash: the 'Server' version is just preconfigured for people who think they won't want the desktop stuff
[12:46] <reisio> and the Desktop version vice versa
[12:46] <reisio> you can get to one from the other
[12:46] <reisio> or anywhere in between
[12:46] <oCean> !apache | Arash
[12:46] <ccvvcc> LittleBallofHate no..
[12:46] <reisio> already linked...
[12:46] <Arash> I know what apache is !
[12:46] <ccvvcc> Im looking for reverse coreutils/script
[12:47] <ccvvcc> i think script is in coreutils =p
[12:47] <triad> who know what is the irc chanel of Backtrack ?
[12:47] <Arash> but not sure where to find It ... doesn't exist on software center
[12:47] <oCean> Arash: sure it does (apache2)
[12:47] <ccvvcc> lets say i forgot to script before the command, i still want to save the output after the command without ctrl+c all of it
[12:47] <LittleBallOfHate> ccvvcc: what?
[12:47] <oCean> Arash: but you better follow the linked documents, since that is the way to install LAMP
[12:48] <Arash> sudo apt-get apache2?
[12:48] <oCean> triad: #backtrack-linux
[12:48] <oCean> Arash: but that is not everything
[12:48] <oCean> Arash: read the linked documents
[12:48] <triad> oCean: sure, i founded out the chanel, but i cannot talk there :|
[12:48] <Arash> I know bro , a web server needs SQL , HTTP (Phpmyadmin for example) , PHP
[12:48] <oCean> triad: you have to register with freenode. Try the #freenode channel
[12:48] <LittleBallOfHate> dang kernel.org is slow
[12:49] <oCean> Arash: if you know, why are you asking?
[12:49] <ccvvcc> LittleBallOfhate I wan to export the output of the terminal.
[12:49] <Arash> was wondering what the package name is
[12:49] <ashutosh> hi
[12:49] <oCean> Arash: the linked documentation shows you how to easily set up a webserver environment, including php and mysql
[12:49] <LittleBallOfHate> ccvvcc: I don't know how to save a random terminal's scrollback other than copy/paste or output redirection.
[12:49] <Arash> apache2 is up
[12:51] <ccvvcc> LittleBallOfHate, this feature should be added..
[12:51] <zykotick9> ccvvcc: if you didn't start script beforehand, i doubt you can save the output.  history of commands is easy, but actual terminal output - i doubt.  hope someone has a better (real) answer for you.
[12:51] <mehdi> has anybody install 32bit apps on 64bit PC?
[12:52] <zykotick9> !anyone | mehdi
[12:53] <ccvvcc> zykotick mac have this feature, ubuntu should too
[12:53] <zykotick9> !tab > ccvvcc good for mac...
[12:54] <Arash> @Mehdi hello :)
[12:54] <Arash> @mehdi you shouldn't do that bro ;)
[12:54] <LittleBallOfHate> !tab > LittleBallOfHate
[12:54] <mehdi> Arash: y is that?
[12:54] <LittleBallOfHate> lol
[12:55] <zykotick9> Arash: why not?  amd64 capable of running 32 and 64 bit code.
[12:55] <Arash> It is , but in a 32bits version of Ubuntu
[12:55] <Arash> one cannot run 64bit programs
[12:55] <Arash> :)
[12:55] <georg87>  
[12:56] <mehdi> i know it may not be good for performances but i need this app that i want to use and even when use getlibs it gives error that there is no package to install :(
[12:56] <LittleBallOfHate> georg87: interesting
[12:56] <zykotick9> Arash: the entire multiarch-thing is an attempt to make it easier (though i personally find the opposite).
[12:56] <yharrow> anyone here have experience with nvidia?
[12:56] <zykotick9> !anyone > yharrow
[12:56] <LittleBallOfHate> zykotick9: lol, no kidding aptitude always wants to remove everything install due to multi-arch
[12:56] <Benkinooby> hi i have 2 ubuntu installs on my laptop. one is 10.04 (my productive OS) the other is ubuntu 11(my experimental OS). can i update my experimental OS while using the productive OS without reboot? by using chroot or something like that?
[12:57] <zykotick9> LittleBallOfHate: DON'T use aptitude on multi-arch systems!
[12:57] <yharrow> ubottu i cnat see ur msg
[12:57] <mehdi> yharrow: ask ur question if sb knows will answer it
[12:57] <LittleBallOfHate> zykotick9: yeah, I just find it funny. I don't use it though.
[12:57] <yharrow> ubottu but u sound so intelligent
[12:57] <Arash> mehdi : how can I help bro ?
[12:57] <yharrow> i have an optimus card
[12:57] <yharrow> and i tried using bumblebee
[12:58] <yharrow> after a dozen other hacks
[12:58] <LittleBallOfHate> yharrow: duder just ask the question
[12:58] <mehdi> Arash: i donno in any means u can :D
[12:58] <yharrow> and i think  ri ruined my computer
[12:58] <LittleBallOfHate> yharrow: and all on one line please
[12:58] <yharrow> How do i get my graphics card to work
[12:58] <yharrow> thats my question
[12:58] <LittleBallOfHate> yharrow: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[12:59] <gigix> yharrow: optimus card ?
[12:59] <jag> hi
[12:59] <yharrow> yes optimus
[12:59] <gigix> which laptop ?
[12:59] <fwiss> Hey guys, the version of Skype in the official repos is like version 2.
[12:59] <yharrow> samsung
[12:59] <fwiss> Version 4 is out
[12:59] <yharrow> nvidia current is already installed
[12:59] <jag> hi ubuntu troubleshooting help?
[13:00] <fwiss> I got the .deb and opened it with Software Center.
[13:00] <yharrow> but glxinfo has a wierd error
[13:00] <yharrow> i read up on it
[13:00] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: duder, just ask
[13:00] <yharrow> and they suggested bumblebee
[13:00] <gigix> yharrow: please be a little bit more precise. Which samsung and which card ?
[13:00] <yharrow> but i have no idea how to get that to work
[13:00] <jag> i upgraded my kernel from 12.04 to 12.10 quantal
[13:00] <gigix> bumblebee and stuff are known to work for specific configs, it is no universal
[13:00] <fwiss> But there's just a button that says 'Upgrade' (or update?) that just becomes clickable a second after I click it, obviously not updating anything.
[13:00] <fwiss> What do?
[13:01] <jag> seems something went wrong?
[13:01] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: 12.10 is not an LTS release
[13:01] <Kikody> reisio: it will take a time until i can tell you whether everything went correct: my Live usb couldn´t start anymore, so i´ll put the live version on it again and then try to repair grub
[13:01] <yharrow> i am doing lshw
[13:01] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: there's a high probability that things there are broken
[13:01] <yharrow> now my card doenst show up
[13:02] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: shouldn't be running it unless you know what you are doing.
[13:02] <jag> how to revert back to 12.04?
[13:02] <yharrow> whatare the papramaters for lshw to view video cards
[13:02] <Benkinooby> hi, can I update an ubuntu install by using an ubuntu install,  which is istalled on the same computer?
[13:02] <Benkinooby> *by using another ubuntu install*
[13:02] <jag> or sort out screen in low graphics mode problem....
[13:02] <gigix> Benkinooby, seems unlikely
[13:02] <LittleBallOfHate> Benkinooby: no.
[13:03] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: what card?
[13:03] <mehdi> hey guys when i do sudo apt-get upgrade it gives me this :  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded. what shuld i do about these 3 packeges?
[13:03] <yharrow> now that i installed bumblebee i think it turned my card off
[13:03] <jag> intel internal media graphics accelerator 3150
[13:03] <yharrow> i think im screwed
[13:03] <gigix> Benkinooby: you can either do an upgrade through the internet or using the alternate-cd
[13:03] <zykotick9> Benkinooby: you might be able to copy the DEBs from /var/cache/apt/archives/ from one to the other - then you won't have to download stuff again
[13:03] <LittleBallOfHate> mehdi: there may be missing dependencies or some such. you can try a dist-upgrade though.
[13:03] <genii-around> mehdi: Not worry about them.
[13:04] <yharrow> i know u guys are busy sorrry
[13:04] <gigix> yharrow: again knowing more about your config may help...what laptop and what card precisely ?
[13:04] <mehdi> LittleBallOfHate: the line before this is The following packages have been kept back:
[13:04] <mehdi>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[13:04] <genii-around> mehdi: Alternately you can try dist-upgrade instead of just upgrade
[13:04] <georg87> LittleBallOfHate: hehe, was testing packet sniffing:)
[13:04] <jag> hi littleballofhate can we chat privately ... seems too noisy...here...
[13:04] <gigix> mehdi: what about sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[13:04] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: prefer to do it here so others may benefit
[13:05] <jag> multiple lines may be a problem???
[13:05] <jag> anyways...
[13:05] <mehdi> that will do it
[13:05] <jag> here it goes..
[13:05] <LittleBallOfHate> !pastebin | jag
[13:05] <mehdi> how can u update a specific application?
[13:06] <jag> can i give you a bit of background ...
[13:06] <jag> just to make things more clear..
[13:06] <genii-around> mehdi: apt-get install --reinstall the-app-you-want-to-upgrade
[13:07] <mehdi> genii-around: doesnt it reinstall the app?
[13:07] <yharrow> 3D controller	NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 520MX] (rev a1)
[13:07] <yharrow> Name	300V3A/300V4A/300V5A/200A4B/200A5B
[13:07] <yharrow> Vendor	SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. (www.samsung.com)
[13:07] <LittleBallOfHate> yharrow: nice card.
[13:07] <yharrow> there
[13:07] <FloodBot1> yharrow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:07] <yharrow> thanks
[13:07] <yharrow> if only it worked
[13:07] <Benkinooby> gigix, LittleBallOfHate zybiski i don't want to upgrade, just update. i thought that might be possible via chroot
[13:07] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: gimme details man.
[13:08] <jag> i installed webmin and enable all services from gui .. after rebooting graphics shows as low graphics mode...
[13:08] <zykotick9> !webmin | Jabraltr
[13:08] <yharrow> if i cant get to this to work i will have to give up on ubuntu for a while
[13:08] <genii-around> mehdi: It installs whatever the latest version is over whatever you have
[13:08] <yharrow> cuz i cant even use my graphics card
[13:08] <LittleBallOfHate> !webmin | jag
[13:08] <yharrow> its ridiculous :(
[13:08] <yharrow> i tried all day
[13:08] <ubuntu-studio> holla
[13:08] <jag> yes!
[13:08] <zykotick9> tab fail... thanks LittleBallOfHate
[13:08] <yharrow> and now i come here and nobody knows either
[13:09] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: I'm afraid webmin may have eaten your system
[13:09] <genii-around> jag: Too bad webmin is not supported
[13:09] <yharrow> i guess that video card just hates ubuntu
[13:09] <yharrow> and i have to get a new computer lol
[13:09] <LittleBallOfHate> yharrow: no
[13:09] <LittleBallOfHate> yharrow: nothing ubuntu does would ever damage hardware
[13:09] <jag> i have uninstalled webmin ... gdm ... tried restarting ... to no avail...
[13:09] <yharrow> littleball, i just cant use it then?
[13:10] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: yeah dude. I'm not sure what webmin broke. might be easier to backup your stuff and reinstall if it mangled enough config files.
[13:10] <fwiss> So how would I go about upgrading Skype from the repo's 2 to the official 4?
[13:10] <LittleBallOfHate> yharrow: does the card work in wondows?
[13:10] <jag> is there a possibility to recreate lost files
[13:10] <yharrow> of course
[13:11] <LittleBallOfHate> yharrow: then it's fine. fix ubuntu.
[13:11] <yharrow> littleball how do i do that
[13:11] <LittleBallOfHate> yharrow: not knowing how to deal with the optimus stuff, not sure. but it's savable.
[13:11] <yharrow> any ideas?
[13:12] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: there's a way to reconfigure your packages and make them install default configs, but then you get a box that's pretty much  a fresh install.
[13:12] <yharrow> can anyone help me with my nvidia optimus card?
[13:12] <jag> acpid shows loaded 35 processes ... then kills all processes...
[13:13] <jag> leaving with low graphics mode...
[13:13] <yharrow> anybody have experieince with nvidia?
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> optimus is very much a work in progress.  theres most likely forum  threads and wiki pages on it.
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> i use nvidia.. but not optimus
[13:13] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[13:13] <yharrow> it says to use bumblebee but im confused
[13:13] <jag> yes.
[13:13] <yharrow> as to how that works
[13:13] <dwatkins> fwiss: uninstall the version from the repo and manually install the new version from the download, at a guess
[13:13] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: move it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[13:14] <jag> ok
[13:14] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: what do you use lightdm or gdm?
[13:14] <jag> lightdm
[13:14] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: sudo service lightdm restart
[13:15] <jag> ok
[13:15] <jag> my network is down.. on windows to chat...
[13:15] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: did restarting lightdm do anything?
[13:16] <jag> i am on windows not in ubuntu...
[13:16] <braverock2> does anybody here know how to create an avahi client ISO?  the usb stick image here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/AvahiBoot won't boot for me on any machine, including ones that normally boot fine w/ usb images
[13:16] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: go try it and come back
[13:16] <jag> ok catch you later...
[13:16] <jag> thanks...
[13:16] <yharrow> lol i just got why they named the optimus project bumblebee
[13:16] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: yup
[13:16] <LittleBallOfHate> yharrow: nerd
[13:16] <yharrow> xD
[13:17] <yharrow> now if only bumblebee would halp mr optimus out
[13:17] <dr_willis> because bumble bees cant fly...
[13:17] <dr_willis> ;)
[13:17] <yharrow> exactly
[13:17] <yharrow> xD
[13:17] <zykotick9> dr_willis: only according to physics ;)
[13:18]  * dr_willis waits for the stop order dreom hasbros lawyers
[13:18] <Reckz0r> Hello.
[13:18] <Toph2> i use xfce as window manager and i started compiz. Now I want to shut down compiz and revert back to xfce default. Any ideas how to do so?
[13:18] <LittleBallOfHate> Any of you play DIII via Wine?
[13:18] <djiefo> hi there :)
[13:19] <yharrow> littleball how do u explain this Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":4".
[13:19] <dr_willis> Toph2:  try 'xfwm --replace'
[13:19] <Toph2> ok
[13:20] <gigix> yharrow: what about having a look at the official troubleshooting of the project: https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Troubleshooting
[13:20] <yharrow> hell i cant even get my intel card to work
[13:20] <yharrow> i have nothing
[13:20] <Toph2> dr_willis,,,  No command 'xfwm' found, did you mean:
[13:20] <gigix> there's a section with your GLX thing
[13:20] <HelloWorld321> Like jag, I'm on Windows to chat.  My ubuntu box boots up to "Checking battery state..."  and freezes up there.  I can ssh to the box, and I can manually startx, but then I don't get the lefthand toolbar
[13:21] <LittleBallOfHate> yharrow: you'll need a line that loads "glx" in you xorg.conf most likely
[13:21] <dr_willis> xfwm was the xfce window manager last i tried it ages ago
[13:21] <HelloWorld321> I'm pretty sure that my problem is video x configuration
[13:22] <LittleBallOfHate> HelloWorld321: do you have and xorg.conf?
[13:22] <dr_willis> HelloWorld321:  what video card?
[13:22] <HelloWorld321> lspci | grep VGA "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)"
[13:22] <LittleBallOfHate> dr_willis: you're not a real dr are you... ;)
[13:23]  * dr_willis is a doctor of love
[13:23] <paul_> hi :)
[13:23] <HelloWorld321> I don't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:23] <HelloWorld321> but I do have several xorg. backup/bad/failsafe
[13:23] <Toph2> dr_willis,,, xfwm4 worked
[13:24] <dr_willis> Toph2:  gotta love creative nameing...
[13:24] <Toph2> hehe
[13:24] <braverock2> anyone here deployed MaaS on 12.04 without PXE?
[13:25] <Sidewinder1> yharrow, I totally understand your frustration but, don't have the definitive answer to your problem; sorry. :(  But, remember since you're dealing with various drivers, you'll need to reboot to try each one..
[13:25] <mehdi> how can i have 32bit lib on64bit pc?
[13:25] <yharrow> sidewinder why i cant i just kill X?
[13:25] <yharrow> why must i reboot
[13:26] <HelloWorld321> dr_willis: lspci | grep VGA "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)".  LittleBallOfHate:  I don't have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf; but I do have several xorg. backup/bad/failsafe.
[13:26] <LittleBallOfHate> HelloWorld321: researching
[13:27] <yharrow> gigix that link u gave looks promising
[13:27] <yharrow> sidewinder1 isnt sudo stop lightdm good enough?
[13:28] <yharrow> brb
[13:29] <Sidewinder1> yharrow, Killing "X" MIGHT work, I'm not certain; trouble shooting video cards/dricers is not my cup-o-tea. I just know that rebooting is a sure way to test your new driver; perhaps that's your problem, just killing X doesn't kill all that needs to be killed. I have an nvidia card, albeit an older one and it has always 'just worked'..
[13:29] <LittleBallOfHate> HelloWorld321: what version of ubuntu?
[13:29] <HelloWorld321> somebody here yesterday told me to delete my xorg.conf, and I found online that xorg.conf is now "deprecated".  I kept backups tho, and configuration tools made backups.
[13:29] <HelloWorld321> LittleBallOfHate: thanks.  Precise Pangolin
[13:30] <LittleBallOfHate> HelloWorld321: on the off chance this works "sudo apt-get install mesa-utils"
[13:30] <HelloWorld321> My configuration was fine under Maverick, but each time I run the updater, I have to do a fresh isntall, because the upgrade can't figure out my video config.
[13:31] <phil> Guys
[13:31] <LittleBallOfHate> phil
[13:31] <phil> How does Transmission calculate the transfer rate? in MB or MiB?
[13:32] <LittleBallOfHate> what's MiB? Miga Bytes?
[13:32] <HelloWorld321> LittleBallOfHate: it ran with no errors.
[13:32] <LittleBallOfHate> HelloWorld321: restart
[13:32] <CookieM_> maybe Mi stands for million
[13:33] <LittleBallOfHate> CookieM_: what an odd way of counting traffic
[13:33] <phil> MebiBytes
[13:33] <Sidewinder1> MB= Mega BYTES per sec. Mb+ Mega BITS per sec. I think..
[13:33] <LittleBallOfHate> Sidewinder1: yeah the question was MB or MiB.
[13:33] <Sidewinder1> 8 bits in a byte.
[13:33] <yharrow> brb
[13:33] <phil> So, MebiBytes or MegaBytes?
[13:34] <phil> 10 bits = 1 BiByte
[13:34] <phil> lol
[13:34] <OerHeks> MB or MiB is a marketing solution to no problem.
[13:34] <phil> It;s the system MS uses
[13:34] <phil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibibyte
[13:34] <CookieM_> for brainless dorks
[13:34] <LittleBallOfHate> ugh it is a perversion of million bytes
[13:34] <ismylhakki__> hi there ! ..
[13:35] <phil> I was wondering. Linux uses MB. Windows MiB, but it shows up as MB
[13:35] <LittleBallOfHate> just like they use million bytews to figure GB in disk capacity
[13:36] <phil> Anyways, so does anybody know? Does Transmission calculate it in MB or MiB?
[13:37] <LittleBallOfHate> phil: no idea
[13:37] <phil> :)
[13:37] <LittleBallOfHate> linusable: check the tranmission website, maybe in faq?
[13:37] <phil> I just wanted to see if my download speed is better in Linux :)
[13:37] <LittleBallOfHate> phil: see above
[13:38] <phil> They don't mention about it. But I guess is MiB, like in MS Windows
[13:38] <Benkinooby> phil, they even have their own irc channel
[13:39] <phil> yeah, they do
[13:39] <Benkinooby> phil, googling on it seems that there is some uncertainty about that topic :P
[13:39] <Benkinooby> phil, did you ask there?
[13:39] <phil> I will
[13:39] <Sidewinder1> Jesus, I've never seen the "MiB" read here, be warned it's somewhat complicated: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiB
[13:39] <Benkinooby> Phi_scribe, irc://irc.freenode.net/transmission
[13:40] <Benkinooby> phil, irc://irc.freenode.net/transmission
[13:40] <CookieM_> i think it's MB look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabyte
[13:40] <yharrow> things going from bad to worse for me
[13:40] <Kikody> reisio: i reinstalled grub, but when i boot ubuntu, it still shows the comand line or something named like"bitbox"
[13:40] <yharrow> now it says
[13:40] <yharrow> name of display: :0
[13:40] <yharrow> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[13:40] <CookieM_> megabyte is the unit of data transmission
[13:40] <yharrow> its like i dont even have a display anymore
[13:41] <yharrow> should i give up before i break my computer?
[13:41] <zykotick9> phil: this is freenode so just "/join #transmission" should work
[13:41] <phil> yeah, but what about Microsoft? They use the other one
[13:41] <bl4754> E: Unable to locate package aircrack-ng E: Unable to locate package aircrack-ng E: Unable to locate package aircrack-ng
[13:41] <bl4754> pleae help me on this error
[13:41] <yharrow> name of display: :0
[13:41] <yharrow> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[13:41] <yharrow> what does that mean?
[13:42] <LittleBallOfHate> bl4754: no package for it
[13:42] <phil> bl4754. Try aircrack
[13:42] <bl4754> it means
[13:42] <phil> without -ng
[13:42] <bl4754> am new to ubuntu
[13:43] <LittleBallOfHate> yharrow: sounds like glx still isn't being loaded
[13:43] <yharrow> name of display: :0
[13:43] <yharrow> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[13:43] <yharrow>  is my computer completely broken?
[13:43] <yharrow> but this is worse than before
[13:43] <yharrow> i rebooted and it got worse
[13:43] <yharrow> now it doesnt even recognize i have *any* video card
[13:43] <phil> bl4754. It seems aircrack is not available in the repos
[13:44] <genii-around> !info aircrack-ng
[13:44] <tom_> Just installed Ubuntu late last night.  Looks great, runs smoothly....except I have no sound.  What to do?
[13:44] <genii-around> Hm
[13:44] <Sidewinder1> !eol | bl4754
[13:44] <phil> yharow: Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1722306
[13:45] <L3top> tom_: does aplay -l give you any output?
[13:45] <phil> !info aircrack
[13:45] <L3top> tom_: How are you connecting to sound?
[13:45] <Sidewinder1> bl4754, If you're using 10.10, what ubottu said is applicable.
[13:45] <phil> !info totem
[13:46] <LittleBallOfHate> phil: /msg ubottu
 sorry not getting please explain
[13:47] <genii-around> phil: From the version numbers up to Oneiric, it looks like it was probably a deserted project: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=aircrack-ng&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[13:47] <LittleBallOfHate> bl4754: ubottu is a bot, not a person
[13:47] <phil> lol
[13:47] <bl4754> kk
[13:48] <tom_> It is recognizing my sound card (I think, lol) I am using the internal speakers when I go to the sound settings...After I first installed I kept hearing some crackling in the speakers and of course I heard the bongos on start up, but then nothing....
[13:48] <phil> Found it/ bl4754: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aircrack-ng
[13:49] <bl4754> thanks a lot dear....
[13:49] <Sidewinder1> bl4754, Since you're interested in Aircrack and you're using an EOL version on ubuntu, you might look into nmap and it's gui front-end zenmap; although how one would install it using 10.10 because it's EOL, I don't know.
[13:49] <phil> bl4754: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aircrack-ng/1:1.1-1.1build1/+build/2508487       Go there, you'll find a .deb at the end of the page. Download and install
[13:50] <Sidewinder1> Or what phil said. :-)
[13:50] <bl4754> thanks too much...i just click on it...getting loaded
[13:50] <genii-around> phil: There's no version in that ppa that doesn't exist in the repositories
[13:51] <genii-around> eg: up to oneric only
[13:51] <Sidewinder1> phil, Are you gonna' teach him to compile? ;-)
[13:51] <Sidewinder1> genii-around, I believe that bl4 is using 10.10 )eol).
[13:51] <genii-around> Sidewinder1: Ah, OK
[13:52] <tom_> Okay after typing in aplay -l this is what I got:
[13:52] <jag> hi littleballofhate
[13:52] <Kikody> Has anyone an idea why my ubuntu 11.10 installation on an 8GB USB Stick doesn´t boot correctly and instead shows something called like "bitbox" whre i could work with ash and in the line on the left stands <initframfs>? I already reinstalled gfrub, but it didn´t solve the problem...
[13:53] <tom_> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
[13:53] <tom_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[13:53] <tom_>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[13:53] <tom_> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: STAC92xx Digital [STAC92xx Digital]
[13:53] <tom_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[13:53] <FloodBot1> tom_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:53] <tom_>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[13:53] <makara> hi. I updated from 11.10 to 12.04 and now the update manager crashes everytime I open it. It says there are 92 updates, but what to do?
[13:54] <SDX> Have you tried "sudo apt-get reinstall update-manager"?
[13:54] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: any luck?
[13:54] <jag> no...
[13:54] <jag> still the same... no screen, graphics, input device
[13:54] <makara> SDX, invalid operation reinstall
[13:54] <SDX> Huh.  I guess reinstall is aptitude then.
[13:55] <zykotick9> SDX: is reinstall actually an option for your apt-get?  it isn't for mine?
[13:55] <jag> tried xorg failsafe to xorg.conf ... nothing...
[13:55] <Kikody> Has anyone an idea why my ubuntu 11.10 installation on an 8GB USB Stick doesn´t boot correctly and instead shows something called like "bitbox" whre i could work with ash and in the line on the left stands <initframfs>? I already reinstalled grub, but it didn´t solve the problem...
[13:55] <SDX> "sudo apt-get purge update-manager" then "sudo apt-get install update-manager".
[13:56] <zykotick9> !info update-manager
[13:56] <SDX> Ah, yes.  It was Aptitude that had reinstall.  Not apt-get.
[13:57] <zykotick9> SDX: "apt-get install --reinstall foo" for apt-get
[13:57] <wilee-nilee> Kikody, how did you reinstall grub?
[13:58] <makara> SDX, won't install update-manager as its unavailable but is replaced by update-manager-core
[13:59] <makara> SDX, i have that, but clicking 'Software Up to Date' has no effect
[14:00] <SDX> makara, and I thought reinstalling the package would fix that.
[14:00] <Sunnyday> I'm off topic, ban me. I already know what you're going to say Helios ! OT
[14:00] <jag> no luck littleballofhate
[14:00] <jag> #user
[14:00] <LittleBallOfHate> jag: dunno duder
[14:01] <jag> ok
[14:01] <Kikody> wilee-nilee: i started a live system of Ubuntu 11.10, mounted the partition with the ubuntu installation with 'sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt' and then installed grub with 'sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdc'
[14:02] <wilee-nilee> !bootinfo | Kikody post the bootscript
[14:03] <Kikody> wilee-nilee: i´ll try
[14:04] <makara> SDX, so now what? Nothing will change until I get my updates working again
[14:11] <mehdi> has anybody ever install 32 bit apps on 64bit os?
[14:11] <escott> mehdi, yes
[14:11] <mehdi> how?
[14:11] <kv> plz suggest videocacheviewer like tool for ubuntu
[14:12] <mehdi> escott: how?
[14:12] <kv> i need buffered and stream flash video readily available unlike downloadvideohelper tool
[14:12] <Trinorae> Can someone help me out with public key authentication? I can't get it working for another user than my root :s
[14:12] <escott> mehdi, sudo apt-get install program:i386
[14:13] <escott> Trinorae, ssh-keygen; ssh-copy-id user@remote
[14:13] <Trinorae> well.. That should be enough, I figured, but still I can't login with the other user without password authentication :s
[14:14] <escott> Trinorae, what does it say when you ssh -vvv user@remote
[14:14] <Trinorae> a lot… :P
[14:14] <escott> !paste | Trinorae
[14:15] <djiefo> hi mates, anyone have a great suggestion as 3d benchmark test for ubuntu 12 thx in advance :)
[14:15] <mehdi> escott: its a .sh file
[14:15] <Arash> !whois mehdi
[14:15] <escott> mehdi, then you will have to resolve the various library dependencies by hand
[14:15] <kv> now-a-days flash videos files are not buffered or streamed onto tmp folder, please help with this
[14:16] <Trinorae> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1045624/
[14:16] <mehdi> escott: how? becuz i have the library of the apps i need to be install
[14:17] <djiefo> Looking for a good 3d benchmark test for ubuntu 12  thx :)
[14:17] <mehdi> escott: plus i did use getlibs but it was no good
[14:18] <OerHeks> kv now-a-days the cache is in ~/.adobe/Flash_Player/AssetCache/
[14:18] <yudhiaz> hay..??
[14:21] <GeeksOnHugs> what's the ubuntu-off toppic channel?
[14:21] <escott> GeeksOnHugs, #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:21] <djiefo> Looking for a good 3d benchmark test for ubuntu 12  thx :)
[14:21] <GeeksOnHugs> ty
[14:22] <Kikody> wilee-nilee: http://dpaste.com/760496/
[14:22] <Trinorae> Any clue what it can be, escott ?
[14:22] <kv> OerHeks: checked with path running a video on youtube, and also with other flash site, could not find buffered/streamed flash video file at this path  ~ /.adobe/Flash_Player/AssetCache/
[14:23] <Trinorae> I've been trying all day to get it working in order to set up git, but to no avail
[14:23] <zykotick9> kv: flash files are deleted while playing these days...
[14:24] <kv> zykotick9:  on windows7 a tool named cachevideoviewer is helpful, is there any similar tool for ubuntu
[14:24] <escott> Trinorae, check the authorized_keys file on the remote server. the remote server is not accepting the presented key
[14:24] <zykotick9> kv: i wouldn't know
[14:24] <kv> zykotick9: OerHeks in good olden days, i used to directly pick up flash files from tmp folder
[14:24] <escott> Trinorae, things to check are (a) that the correct pubkey line is present (b) the permissions on auth keys are correct
[14:25] <zykotick9> kv: if you haven't closed the playing video - it is possible to copy the file before it's entirely gone
[14:26] <Trinorae> escott: the /home/{user}/.ssh/authorized_keys file contains the correct pubkey (I just scp'ed it to there and did a key.pub >> authorized_keys)
[14:26] <Trinorae> I also did chmod 600 on the authorized_keys
[14:26] <Trinorae> and chmod 700 on the .ssh folder
[14:27] <zykotick9> kv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1045630/ (it's a lot easier just to get some browser download plugin)
[14:27] <kv> zykotick9: from where ?   there is a tool called downloadvideohelper  but i consider it will re-buffer or stream for downloading option .... i mean to say 1 time for streaming to view and again another time streaming for download , so it is double work,  can;t i get original first streamed  one ...
[14:27] <Trinorae> that's all correct, right, escott ?
[14:27] <escott> Trinorae, that should be ok
[14:28] <Trinorae> But still I can't connect with that newly created user without password authentication, though I can with the root user (for which I set it up a long time ago)
[14:28] <Trinorae> I really don't know what's wrong
[14:29] <escott> Trinorae, hard to say without seeing the auth keys file
[14:30] <wilee-nilee> Kikody, Script looks good I would chroot to the install and run a mbr load.
[14:31] <falu> I fail to make eth0 work automatically after reboot. After setting IP/gateway/DNS/... everything works fine but only until rebooting.
[14:31] <Kikody> wilee-nilee: how do i do this?
[14:31] <wilee-nilee> Kikody, hang on I will give you a pastebin.
[14:32] <Kikody> ok thank you :-)
[14:32] <falu> the config in /etc/network/interfaces looks fine even after the reboot.
[14:32] <gantry> Is anyone here running Cinnamon?  Since upgrading to 12.04 + Cinnamon, many of my applets no longer work.  Has anyone had this experience?
[14:33] <escott> wilee-nilee, what device does the bios boot first
[14:35] <OerHeks> gantry, cinnamon is not supported here, ask in mint support.
[14:35] <gantry> yep, they told me it was an Ubuntu issue and to ask in the ubuntu channel
[14:36] <OerHeks> gantry, unlikely, ubuntu is not responsible for any mint issues.
[14:36] <wilee-nilee> escott, hard to say from the script
[14:37] <wilee-nilee> Kikody, you know you are booting the thumb right?
[14:37] <escott> wilee-nilee, sorry meant to ask Kikody what device the bios boots
[14:37] <RED_pyro> Good morning
[14:38] <Kikody> escott: the bios boots the usb stick first
[14:38] <Devilz> can anyone tell me how to configure the browser to connect to a squid proxy server ??
[14:39] <Aptar> Newbie question.  Will sudo apt-get update .. update the kernel when a new one is out?
[14:39] <wilee-nilee> Kikody, here is the chroot but escott knows this stuff so hang for their comment. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1045640/
[14:39] <HelloWorld321> LittleBallOfHate: I ran sudo apt-get install mesa-utils and restarted.  Bootup is still telling me that I need to configure video myself.
[14:39] <mrts_> is there a way to cycle through all windows in alt-tab in similar manner to alt-` ?
[14:39] <OerHeks> Aptar, with "sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get upgrade " yes
[14:39] <Kikody> wilee-nilee: ok thank you so far :-)
[14:40] <escott> Kikody, without the usb stick. would it boot sda, sdb, or sdc?
[14:40] <HelloWorld321> You had me install mesa-utils to help isntall my 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[14:40] <mrts_> (I mean all application windows)
[14:40] <Aptar> OerHeks, What is the purpose of having to type the command twice?
[14:40] <escott> wilee-nilee, im jumping in late so i dont know all of Kikody's symptoms. its just a good question to ask when there are multiple disks
[14:41] <wilee-nilee> escott, no doubt. ;)
[14:41] <OerHeks> Aptar, they are different update-upgrade
[14:41] <Aptar> OerHeks,  Oh, your command has upgrade twice.
[14:41] <OerHeks> Aptar, update = refreshing the repolisting
[14:41] <Aptar> I see, you meant update on the first one :)
[14:42] <OerHeks> Aptar my bad typing, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade "
[14:42] <Aptar> OerHeks, Ok. Thank you :)
[14:42] <wilee-nilee> Kikody, if you try this ignore the [/code] after the update grub command I did not notice that when I posted.
[14:42] <Aptar> OerHeks, How often is a new kernel released?
[14:42] <Kikody> escott: if i have no usb stick it boots sda; with the live system usb stick sdb and when live system usb stick and the stick on which i installed ubuntu are pluged in sdc
[14:42] <Kikody> escott: sdc is the one on which the installed ubuntu is
[14:42] <L3top> HelloWorld321: sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver   You may need to create an xorg.conf, if so Xorg -configure this will create a xorg.conf.new file in your home directory.
[14:43] <mrts_> is there a way to make alt-tab cycle through all application windows (so that alt-tab works like alt-`)?
[14:43] <OerHeks> Aptar, not that often, there is no schedule for that. when a bug is fixed and tested and the stable kernel is released, you will know.
[14:43] <escott> Kikody, sorry. im confused then. if its booting a it obviously wont boot c which is the ubuntu system. so what was the original question (i missed that)
[14:43] <HelloWorld321> tx L3top, doing so
[14:43] <Aptar> OerHeks, Ok
[14:43] <Kikody> escott: Has anyone an idea why my ubuntu 11.10 installation on an 8GB USB Stick doesn´t boot correctly and instead shows something called like "bitbox" whre i could work with ash and in the line on the left stands <initframfs>? I already reinstalled grub, but it didn´t solve the problem...
[14:44] <escott> Kikody, busybox
[14:44] <L3top> HelloWorld321: you will need to cp that xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:44] <Kikody> ecott: yes that was it
[14:44] <escott> Kikody, so this isn't a grub problem
[14:44] <alankila> Kikody: if you see initramfs, grub is working correctly
[14:44] <HelloWorld321> L3top: I read last night that xorg.conf was 'deprecated'
[14:44] <alankila> unfortunately the initramfs was unable to work out how to boot the rest
[14:44] <Athetius> So with gnomelook.org gone, where do you guys get your gtk themes?
[14:44] <HelloWorld321> L3top: copying
[14:44] <escott> Kikody, how did you make your usb stick system?
[14:45] <L3top> HelloWorld321: it is, but there are certain circumstances where it is still required.
[14:45] <Kikody> escott the life system or the installed?
[14:45] <escott> HelloWorld321, have you looked at vgaswitcheroo/bumblebee
[14:45] <escott> Kikody, the one thats not working (sdc?) how did you make it
[14:45] <HelloWorld321> L3top: copied
[14:46] <L3top> Oh you have a hybrid... HelloWorld321... that makes things significantly different... You will definitely need an xorg.conf though.
[14:46] <HelloWorld321> escott: no, I have not.  But I've heard that it was so called because bumblebees don't fly?
[14:46] <HardFu> hi
[14:46] <HelloWorld321> but I didn't know that bumblebees had anything to do with installing video drivers
[14:46] <wisevoyager__> HardFu,  hi!
[14:46] <ejo> And bumblebees certainly do fly :P
[14:46] <vampirnata> anyone know if it's possible to run a X11 session over ssh from a Windows 7 machine?
[14:46] <L3top> HelloWorld321: it is named bumblebee after the transformer. The nvidia technology is called Optimus, and bumblebee was born from Ironhide.
[14:47] <HelloWorld321> L3top: maybe I don't have a hybrid, I wouldn't know
[14:47] <LittleBallOfHate> vampirnata: yes
[14:47] <escott> vampirnata, you need to install an X server on windows. there are various choices xming and others
[14:47] <L3top> lspci -nn | grep 'VGA'
[14:47] <RED_pyro> ejo: not pigs?
[14:47] <vampirnata> thanks LittleBallOfHate and escott
[14:47] <L3top> HelloWorld321: does that return one or two gpus?
[14:47] <HelloWorld321> vampirnata: it is devinitely possible.  I wouldn't know how without following step-by-step the ssh guide at the X-windows website
[14:47] <wisevoyager__> vampirnata, this is not a windows forum.,
[14:47] <escott> L3top, ironhide. i kept trying to think of the new name and could only come up with "tireiron" and just knew that wasn't correct
[14:47] <wilee-nilee> escott, it is a full install on a thumb showing normal in the bootscript. The user tried a reload of grub without chrooting on a reload.
[14:47] <HelloWorld321> lspci -nn | grep 'VGA' returns only one line
[14:48] <escott> wilee-nilee, does this systems bios support such an installation?
[14:48] <L3top> escott: Ironhide was actually the first one... created by MrMEEE, bumblebee is a fork from Ironhide.
[14:48] <HardFu> I need some help, I have 3 VMs inside an ESXi, one serving as a router having dhcp'd IP from ISP - the second two VMs are in separate subnet and have static IPs (also part of /29 subnet given by ISP, but manually configured). I can ping the router VM from other VMs but can't access them from the net. IP forwarding is enabled. Any tips?
[14:48] <Vampire0> vampirnata, just install XMing, or start the X-Server shipped with Cygwin if you have Cygwin installed, then you can enable X11 forwarding on your SSH connection
[14:48] <L3top> then this discussion about bumblebee is moot HelloWorld321
[14:48] <vampirnata> Vampire0: sounds like a plan, checking out the website now
[14:48] <HelloWorld321> L3top: good, I was about to ask.
[14:49] <vampirnata> Vampire0: tanks
[14:49] <Kikody> escott: i started a life system of ubuntu 11.10; then i clicked "try out" created two partitions with gparted (one for the system and one as swap) and then used the "install ubuntu 11.10" thing on the desktop and selected the usb stick for installation
[14:49] <L3top> HelloWorld321: reboot.
[14:49] <Vampire0> yw
[14:49] <HelloWorld321> I don't have an Optimus, an ironhide, an nVida, or a bumblebee
[14:49] <HelloWorld321> L3top: rebooting
[14:49] <escott> HelloWorld321, L3top sorry i thought you were the one from yesterday with the nvidia optimus system
[14:49] <wilee-nilee> escott, they say it shows in the bios.
[14:49] <L3top> Not it ;)
[14:50] <HelloWorld321> escott: no, but I remember that guy.  DrWillis was helping him.  That's where I heard about the not flying thing.
[14:50] <wilee-nilee> Kikody, has it ever booted on this computer to the ubuntu install, it seemed it had been running.
[14:50] <jag> low graphics, screen, input device not detected 12.10 quantal
[14:50] <escott> HelloWorld321, ok sorry
[14:50] <oCean> jag: #ubuntu+1 channel for alpha releases
[14:51] <L3top> jag: /join #ubuntu+1
[14:51] <HelloWorld321> ok,  I have installed mesa utilities earlier this morning, and now I have installed libva-x11-1 as you said just now, and rebooted.  I am running in low-graphics mode and will need to configure my screen, graphics card and input device settings myself.
[14:51] <Kikody> wilee-nilee: i tried to start ubuntu several times before and looked what happens when i type in 'help' but i never saw the desktop
[14:51] <L3top> ummm... I said to install i965-va-driver
[14:51] <HelloWorld321> I'm in Precise Pangolin, and the upgrade failed to properly configure my video, al
[14:51] <escott> HelloWorld321, what ubuntu version, and what intel chip is this
[14:52] <escott> HelloWorld321, nevermind if you are precise that should be supported
[14:52] <HelloWorld321> L3top: I typed what you said, and it installed:
[14:52] <L3top> ok.
[14:52] <Kikody> when <initframfs> was shown i typed in 'help', wilee-nilee
[14:52] <HelloWorld321>   libva-intel-vaapi-driver, libva-x11-1, i965-va-driver, libva-intel-vaapi-driver, libva-x11-1
[14:53] <wilee-nilee> Kikody, ah so it could just be a bad install, or some other block, you were getting errors.
[14:53] <HelloWorld321> escott: lspci | grep VGA "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G965 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)"
[14:53] <escott> Kikody, i cant remember whats available in the initramfs. but you should check that uuids match the passed root arg to the kernel. so run "sudo blkid" and identify /dev/sdc1's uuid. then "grep thatUUID /mnt/ubuntu/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[14:54] <escott> Kikody, assuming you are in a liveusb and have sdc1 mounted on /mnt/ubuntu
[14:54] <L3top> yes... this is the graphics accelleration package for your chipset. Should be running great. I think something else fundamental is missing/held back
[14:54] <wilee-nilee> escott, the uuid is good on the script if that helps.
[14:55] <wilee-nilee> escott, not sure if you saw it or use this in general. http://dpaste.com/760496/
[14:55] <HelloWorld321> okay L3top, you could be very right.  For starters, I've been triyng to get this going for a while, so I've done a bunch of things, and can't remember all of them, and didn't understand them all when I did them.  Like just now when you said "sudo apt-get ... " and I just did it.  So I very well could have messed up all sorts of things.
[14:55] <HelloWorld321> L3top, moreover, there's a hardware history on this rig
[14:55] <wilee-nilee> Kikody, your in good hands here I will do some other work.
[14:56] <escott> wilee-nilee, yep sorry
[14:56] <Kikody> wilee-nilee: ok
[14:56] <escott> wilee-nilee, not used to that script
[14:57] <Kikody> wilee-nilee, escott: will be right back
[14:57] <wilee-nilee> escott, it is long and tedious at the least. ;)
[14:57] <cek> I've got a couple of problems on my ubunto 12.10 laptop. 1st is console screen is expanded past the physical screen area. i've tried stty rows lowering, but it just increases the row size, the bottom of the console is still past the bottom of the lcd :)
[14:57] <HelloWorld321> I used to have an nVidia card on a Windows machine.  One day my computer wouldn't start, and my woman had just bought a brand new computer, and mine wouldn't start, so I bought a new one, too!  Then I started messing with my old one when I was between jobs, and found that the computer was fine except the video card (nVidia), so I removed it and started using the onboard (Intel) grpahics, which is lame and only goes to 1024x768,
[14:58] <escott> wilee-nilee, Kikody signed off. but one thing to watch for on these kinds of systems is stuff like linux	/boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-12-generic root=/dev/sdc1 ro   quiet splash vt.handoff=7. its a bit of an assumption that sdc1 will come up as sdc1 when the bios is forced to enumerate it first
[14:58] <HelloWorld321> So I started using my Windows system with the new video card for computer games, and started expirimenting with a new OS (Ubuntu) on my old computer.  I've found that I like Ubuntu, but it still makes sense to play computer games on Windows.
[14:59] <escott> wilee-nilee, so not all bioses will boot usb systems directly
[14:59] <wilee-nilee> escott, I mention that discrepancy in the poted chroot
[14:59] <wilee-nilee> escott, I see what you mean yrah.
[14:59] <L3top> the onboard should do well over 1024x768 HelloWorld321. I think something may be further wrong with the onboard.
[14:59] <wilee-nilee> yeah*
[14:59] <escott> wilee-nilee, cool. ill make sure he changes that when we get him back online
[15:00] <Qualia> ubuntu channel is starting to eat up my internet bandwith. they charge me 10 bucks for a gig here. any solutions?
[15:00] <HelloWorld321> Now, every time I upgrade Ubunut (Meek, Natty, Oceleot, Pangolin), I have to do a full re-install, because I get this video driver problem.  And it's really bugging me.  Maybe I should go buy a proper video card (would cost less than the time I've wasted on the onboard), or maybe I should go ahead and do the full re-install.  I just know that this shuold be really straightforward.
[15:00] <kaellan> i just installed the gfx drivers and on system details it still sais "driver unknown". what to do ?
[15:00] <Qualia> (hint on kicking me) *wink*
[15:00] <wilee-nilee> escott, he was booting from one the third may be to much then?
[15:00] <HelloWorld321> L3top: I don't actually know, but 1024x768 is the highest resolution mentioned in my Xorg.0.log file.
[15:01] <escott> HelloWorld321, so there WAS an nvidia driver :). i knew nvidia came in there somewhere. how did you install nvidia originally
[15:01] <L3top> HelloWorld321: I thought you were referring to the windows install... sorry.
[15:01] <escott> wilee-nilee, i think he needs to change his root=/dev/sdc1 to root=UUID=whatever
[15:01] <HelloWorld321> Well the nVidia was fried before I ever installed Ubuntu.  But I remembered "nVidia", so I asked #ubuntu how to install nVidia, and they gave me a PPA address and had me sudo apt-get the latest nVidia drivers.
[15:02] <wilee-nilee> escott, yeah could be.
[15:02] <escott> !apt-purge | HelloWorld321 then start by purging that ppa
[15:03] <L3top> HelloWorld321: dpkg-query -l nvidia* | grep "^ii" | awk '{print $2}') 2>/dev/null
[15:03] <escott> !info apt-purge | HelloWorld321
[15:03] <escott> !info ppa-purge | HelloWorld321
[15:03] <escott> i need more caffeine
[15:03] <kaellan> i need nvidia drivers
[15:04]  * Sidewinder1 Just poured his 3rd cup.
[15:04] <zykotick9> !ppa-purge | HelloWorld321
[15:04] <sachael> anyone here using irssi? I installed the irssi-scripts package, but I have no idea how to enable those scripts
[15:04] <makara> kaellan, go to nvidia website
[15:04] <HelloWorld321> L3top: that awk script you gave me had a syntax error, but I removed a ) to make it [ dpkg-query -l nvidia* | grep "^ii" | awk '{print $2}') 2>/dev/null ] and it returned nothing
[15:04] <makara> escott, go to kitchen
[15:04] <escott> kaellan, makara he should install through jockey-gtk AKA proprietary drivers
[15:05] <cek> modprob'ing vga16fb fixed it, but i guess i'm running unoptimal
[15:05] <gigix> kaellan, start a terminal and run "sudo jockey-gtk"
[15:05] <escott> !gksudo | gigix kaellan
[15:05] <L3top> HelloWorld321: dpkg-query -l nvidia* | grep "^ii" | awk '{print $2}' 2>/dev/null
[15:05] <L3top> sorry
[15:05] <gigix> kaellan: then tell us whteher nivida driver is available
[15:05] <gigix> yes gksudo my bad
[15:06] <HelloWorld321> L3top: yeah, that comes up blank
[15:06] <L3top> k
[15:06] <HelloWorld321> L3top: does that mean that I've already successfuly purged the nVidia?
[15:06] <L3top> yes
[15:06] <sachael> anyone successfully using xcompmgr/compton with fluxbox in the latest ubuntu? It doesn't work for me, with NO error messages.
[15:06] <HelloWorld321> cuz you'know, people say it and I just do it :P
[15:06] <makara> escott, any idea how to update packages? update-manager kept crashing so I removed it
[15:07] <escott> makara, from the cli; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:07] <gigix> makara, apt-get update ?
[15:07] <L3top> HelloWorld321: grep -i 'driver' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:08] <makara> thx
[15:08] <L3top> HelloWorld321: does one of those show intel?
[15:08] <HelloWorld321> L3top: yes, one shows "intel"
[15:09] <L3top> HelloWorld321: can you please pastebin your entire /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[15:09] <dvdproblem> hi
[15:09] <HelloWorld321> and it's the one I just copied from my xorg.conf.new in my home directory after rebooting just now, after installing the i965 package you suggested
[15:09] <HelloWorld321> k
[15:09] <dvdproblem> I'm having a problem playing DVDs on 12.04 -- in that the DVD isnt even recognised when I insert it
[15:10] <escott> !dvd | dvdproblem
[15:10] <dvdproblem> when i try to mount, it replies, no medium found on /dev/sr0
[15:10] <HelloWorld321> L3top: tx ... http://pastebin.com/NzemzZ8h
[15:10] <dvdproblem> thanks escott
[15:10] <L3top> HelloWorld321: let me connect to another network. I will generate an xorg.conf for you. Brb.
[15:11] <Kikody> escott: it says that "the file or directory could not be found"
[15:11] <mikefarr> i am on 12.04 and its not picking up my usb headset w/mic
[15:11] <HelloWorld321> L3top: thanks so much
[15:12] <L3top> HelloWorld321: can you connect to that pastebin? Becasue I am erroring out
[15:12] <escott> Kikody, wilee-nilee pointed out that the information was in the bootscript. im just not used to reading it. one possible problem is that your vmlinuz line references /dev/sdc1 as the root, but there is no guarantee that sdc comes up as sdc when the bios makes it the boot device. it might come up as sda
[15:12] <HelloWorld321> my current xorg.conf is http://pastebin.com/NzemzZ8h and my current xorg.0.log is http://pastebin.com/kRfsenKg
[15:12] <HelloWorld321> L3top: yes, I connect to both those pastebins
[15:13] <mikefarr> Any suggestions
[15:13] <escott> Kikody, so what you should do is chroot in, and rerun grub-install. and then check what the vmlinuz line is, and if it is root=/dev/sdc1 change it to root=UUID=2581... whatever that UUID was
[15:13] <escott> Kikody, do you know how to do a chroot?
[15:13] <Kikody> not really, escott
 .
[15:15] <escott> Kikody, ok. open a terminal and run the following commands: sudo -i; fsck /dev/sdc1; mkdir -p /mnt/ubuntu; mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/ubuntu; mount -o bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev; mount -o bind /sys /mnt/ubuntu/sys; mount -o bind /proc /mnt/ubuntu/proc; chroot /mnt/ubuntu;
[15:15] <escott> Kikody, if any of those commands gives and error stop at that point and let us know what it was
[15:15] <Kikody> escott: ok
[15:16] <mikefarr> Well if anyone has a moment I would very much appreciate some guidance with this usb headset issue
[15:17] <escott> mikefarr, you can often get some better information by finding the usb id. run lsusb and find the 8 character id abcd:1234
[15:17] <ismylhakki> !help
[15:18] <dvdproblem> escott, even after i followd the directions on the link, ubuntu is still not recognizing anything in the dvd drive?
[15:18] <ismylhakki> -!-help
[15:18] <CookieM_> does your headset was engineered to work with linux, you should check it on the box before you purchase such gadgets
[15:18] <escott> dvdproblem, and you said you can't mount it. how are you trying to mount it?
[15:19] <oCean> !tr | ismylhakki
[15:19] <dvdproblem> escott, mount -t iso9660 /dev/dvd /cdrom
[15:19] <HelloWorld321> Would someone please confirm that my pastebins work?  my current xorg.conf is http://pastebin.com/NzemzZ8h and my current xorg.0.log is http://pastebin.com/kRfsenKg
[15:19] <escott> dvdproblem, try without the -t its usually best to not specify the type
[15:19] <dvdproblem> ok
[15:20] <mikefarr> escott, I found one maybe 2 devices that could be it
[15:20] <WavyGravy> hm
[15:20] <escott> mikefarr, it might come up as two devices thats entirely possible
[15:21] <dvdproblem> escott, unfortuantely I get the same error, mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0 -- weird, it has no problem recognizing blank cds etc
[15:21] <WavyGravy> on 12.04, setting will not change the wallpaper...
[15:21] <WavyGravy> anyone
[15:21] <escott> dvdproblem, and you dont have an sr1 or anything like that
[15:22] <dvdproblem> escott, i'll just double check
[15:22] <escott> dvdproblem, you can also check dmesg after trying to mount. you might see some error messages there
[15:22] <WavyGravy> cannot set wallpaper ...
[15:22] <WavyGravy> :/
[15:22] <dvdproblem> escott, sr0 -- just check dmesg now
[15:22] <HelloWorld321> I think I killed L3top
[15:22] <mikefarr> escott, what do I need to do with the 8 character id
[15:23] <escott> mikefarr, you could plug it into a websearch along with "ubuntu" see if anyone else has tried with that particular hardware
[15:23] <escott> HelloWorld321, it takes some time to read those Xorg.0.logs
[15:24] <dvdproblem> escott, weird nothing in dmesg, it's as if i'm not inserting *anything* at all in the dvd drive, ive tried other dvds, exactly the same
[15:24] <WavyGravy> I cannot set my wallpaper...
[15:24] <escott> dvdproblem, could it be a dvd region issue?
[15:24] <escott> WavyGravy, details
[15:24] <mikefarr> escott, i tested and there is only one - i will do that
[15:24] <cek> I've got unity-greeter displaying login screen, but it doesn't go past login - X.org.1 says no devices found - how's that?
[15:25] <dvdproblem> escott, good idea, i'll try to set the region
[15:25] <escott> HelloWorld321, that log shows three cards and three monitors. is that accurate
[15:25] <falu> is there a non-deprecated alternative to "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[15:25] <dvdproblem> escott, brb
[15:25] <WavyGravy> escott, when i click on the picture, the wallpaper doesnt change..
[15:25] <escott> dvdproblem, i wouldn't jump to doing that. 5 times and you have a dvd reader brick
[15:25] <HelloWorld321> escott: there is only one card, and only one monitor
[15:25] <WavyGravy> in settings
[15:25] <cek> can login with guest session though
[15:25] <dvdproblem> escott, I'll give it one go then
[15:26] <WavyGravy> must be a new bug
[15:26] <HelloWorld321> um escott: I think there's one monitor and one card.  I see some weird old coax connections that could be like an RF decoder or something?
[15:26] <dvdproblem> escott, ha! "ERROR: Could not open disc "(null)"!"  couldnt even do that
[15:26] <escott> WavyGravy, do you have any icons on the desktop
[15:27] <WavyGravy> yes
[15:27] <HelloWorld321> let's see, what was the video standard between VGA & HDMI.  Is it s-cable?\
[15:27] <escott> WavyGravy, what does "ps aux | grep nautilus" show
[15:27] <escott> HelloWorld321, S-video was really only for video cameras
[15:28] <WavyGravy> dave      6534  0.2  0.8 1536172 67064 ?       Sl   10:11   0:02 nautilus -n
[15:28] <WavyGravy> dave     29475  0.0  0.0  13580   928 pts/5    S+   10:27   0:00 grep --color=auto nautilus
[15:28] <dr_willis> s video - old skool high end. ;)
[15:28] <HelloWorld321> escott: there's another card back there with "TV IN", "TV OUT", "S-VID" and "AUDIO"  None of which are connected.
[15:29] <HelloWorld321> escott: other than that, I have exactly one card (the onboard Intel) and one monitor, connected by a VGA cable
[15:29] <escott> HelloWorld321, have you tried this without an xorg.conf. its showing all these monitors because your xorg.conf claims they exist. if you only have one then your xorg.conf is wrong so thats going to cause problems
[15:30] <WavyGravy> escott,  nothing?
[15:30] <escott> WavyGravy, not sure why it wouldn't be changing
[15:30] <WavyGravy> hm
[15:30] <escott> WavyGravy, what ubuntu version is this
[15:30] <WavyGravy> 12.04
[15:31] <HelloWorld321> escott: thanks for that, but the xorg.conf is the one I just now copied from me xorg.conf.new after deleting the old one and installing mesa utils and i965.
[15:31] <escott> WavyGravy, you could try using the command line to see if that will give a more verbose error http://askubuntu.com/questions/66914/how-to-change-desktop-background-from-command-line-in-unity
[15:31] <WavyGravy> ty
[15:31] <escott> HelloWorld321, well that xorg.conf is wrong. so you need to either fix it or remove it
[15:31] <HelloWorld321> escott: I'll move that xorg.conf to xorg.conf.20120617 and reboot?
[15:32] <escott> HelloWorld321, in general you are not supposed to have one except in exceptional circumstances. there might be something funky with your hardware, because whatever generated that config found three monitors and devices, but they are all the same
[15:32] <escott> HelloWorld321, sudo service lightdm restart should be sufficient
[15:33] <sattu94> sh
[15:33] <HelloWorld321> k, moved xorg.conf, and doing the lightdm thing ...
[15:33] <Kikody> escott: when i type in 'fsck /dev/sdc1' there was the message that the use of the tool on a mounted filesystem could cause hard damages
[15:34] <dr_willis> fscking a mounted/inuse filesystem is a very bad idea Kikody
[15:34] <escott> Kikody, yes. you should not have it mounted. unmount it first
[15:34] <HelloWorld321> escott: sudo service lightdm restart gave me the same "you will need to configure these yourself" message with no xorg.conf
[15:34] <dr_willis> or use a live cd to fsck everything, then reboot
[15:35] <knobydobs> Hello All
[15:35] <Kikody> so i have to use ' sudo dismount /dev/sdc1 ?
[15:35] <mikefarr> escott, With the device plugged in my Sound Settings wont come up - also as I see you helping so many people I just to say thanks for all your doing!
[15:35] <escott> HelloWorld321, then lets fix the xorg.conf and put it back. not sure why you are getting that message must be something with your hardware
[15:35]  * lazarus_ wonders if there is a way to remove android(or dualbot) and put ubuntu or somthing like that on my tablet 
[15:35] <dr_willis> Kikody:  sudo umount /dev/sdxx
[15:36] <HelloWorld321> escott: k, tx.
[15:36] <knobydobs> I keep getting error: file not found press any key to continue
[15:36] <Kikody> dr_willis: thanks i´ll try again
[15:36] <HelloWorld321> escott: putting it back and opening it in vim
[15:36] <escott> HelloWorld321, you can edit that file with sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf (replace vi with your favorite editor if you have one, like nano or gedit if you have a gui), and remove everything related to Device1 or device2 and monitor1 or monitor2. you have one device and one monitor so call them device0 and monitor0
[15:37] <escott> HelloWorld321, rather its screen and card not monitor and device
[15:37] <HelloWorld321> escott: and also Screen1 & Screen2, no doubt
[15:38] <escott> mikefarr, you can run the sound settings from the command line (might give more errors) with "gnome-control-center sound"
[15:38] <cek> How do I configure ubuntu to boot in runlevel 3 by default?
[15:39] <escott> !runlevel | cek
[15:39] <TheLynx> Need a python editor for Ubuntu..any idea?
[15:39] <zykotick9> !text | cek
[15:39] <cek> what if i specify 1 or single ?
[15:39] <HelloWorld321> escott: removed all references to Monitor1&2, Screen1&2 and Card1&2
[15:39] <HelloWorld321> startdm?
[15:39] <escott> HelloWorld321, yes. try and restart lightdm
[15:40] <HelloWorld321> escott: "you will need to configure these yourself"
[15:40] <cek> how do i list jobs for specific runlevel?
[15:40] <escott> HelloWorld321, so you just get the message but things work?
[15:41] <zykotick9> cek: runlevels aren't really used in debian/ubuntu...
[15:41] <HelloWorld321> well ... lessee ... I'll tell it okay, and see where it goes ...
[15:41] <cek> how do you call the level then?
[15:41] <TheLynx> so?
[15:41] <zykotick9> !runlevel > cek again...
[15:41] <cek> start on runlevel [23]
[15:41] <HelloWorld321> escott: It now offers me the chance to "Run in low-graphics"; "Reconfigure"; "Troubleshoot"; "Exit to console"
[15:41] <cek> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[15:42] <cek> start on stopped rcS
[15:42] <Papa-Smurf> hi
[15:42] <escott> HelloWorld321, and you created this xorg.conf how?
[15:42] <cek> so how do I list all services that start when i specify it to boot in single mode?
[15:42] <HelloWorld321> In the past with older configurations, I've tried all four and not gotten anywhere.
[15:42] <GenericUbuntuUse> I'm trying to run Ubuntu on my Rasberry Pi... I can't. Anyone know why?
[15:42] <HelloWorld321> escott: It was generated just this morning with you & L3top guiding me through the creation of an xorg.conf.new in my home directory, which I then copied to /etc/var
[15:43] <Papa-Smurf> Is it the temperature of a laptop with Ubuntu higher than other with Windows 7?
[15:43] <escott> HelloWorld321, with Xorg -configure then
[15:43] <HelloWorld321> which was after L3top had me apt-get mesa-utils and i965
[15:43] <escott> !powertop | Papa
[15:43] <zykotick9> HelloWorld321: /etc/var?  typically xorg.conf goes in /etc/X11/
[15:43] <escott> !info powertop | Papa
[15:43] <Papa-Smurf> OK
[15:43] <Papa-Smurf> thanks dude
[15:44] <Papa-Smurf> how to use powetop?
[15:44] <HelloWorld321> escott: you are correct: X11, there is no /etc/var
[15:44] <cek> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#runlevels
[15:44] <HelloWorld321> escott: and I don't quite recall doing Xorg -configure today
[15:44] <WavyGravy> escott, its not finding the proper path to set wallpaper. It there a way to reset this path to  default?
[15:44] <cek> To change the default runlevel the system will boot into, modify the variable DEFAULT_RUNLEVEL in file /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf.
[15:44] <WavyGravy> Is
[15:44] <kRush> oh god, how can there be no setting for scroll speed in gnome?
[15:44] <cek> faq this and make it tagged to "single" "text"
[15:45] <mikefarr> escott, that wasnt installed so i installed - have to reboot brb
[15:45] <diluted> => /boot is using 94.3% of 227MB
[15:45] <diluted> how do i clean that down?
[15:45] <escott> WavyGravy, ubuntu default wallpapers are in /usr/share/backgrounds
[15:45] <HelloWorld321> escott: I lied,.  The timestamp on the xorg.conf.new is from yesterday.  so somebody else guided me through that, and it was before the system changes.
[15:45] <todd> does anyone know if there is an EASY way to read/write from a GPIO device?
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> diluted  make sure you don't have too many kernels installed
[15:45] <WavyGravy> escott, yes, but a command to set that to default escott?
[15:45] <zykotick9> diluted: uninstall unused kernels?  to get a list "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[15:45] <HelloWorld321> escott: and then I blindly copied it this morning
[15:45] <escott> HelloWorld321, but it was generated by Xorg -configure
[15:46] <escott> HelloWorld321, not by hand
[15:46] <HelloWorld321> escott: should I try Xorg -configure now?  I don't remember
[15:46] <escott> WavyGravy, i have no idea. what makes you say that it is not finding that as a default path?
[15:46] <HelloWorld321> escott: almost certainly yes, but I don't remember.  I definitely did Xorg -configure at least once yesterday
[15:46] <diluted> i got a bunch of results for the grep linux image after dpkg
[15:46] <diluted> not sure what to do now rofl
[15:47] <diluted> rc linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic-pae 2.6.38-10.46 Linux kernel image for version 2.6.38 on x86
[15:47] <diluted> all the way tooooo
[15:47] <escott> HelloWorld321, there is something odd about your hardware. can you run "sudo lshw -C video"
[15:47] <WavyGravy> escott,  i go this when attempting to set wallpaper with terminal,  No such file or directory
[15:47] <diluted> ii linux-image-generic-pae 3.0.0.21.25 Generic Linux kernel image
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> todd  this here says 'hardy', but it may be useful; 'easy' depends on how skilled you are https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallLirc/Hardy#GPIO_Devices
[15:47] <zykotick9> diluted: ii = installed
[15:47] <escott> WavyGravy, what commad did you run?
[15:47] <WavyGravy> im trying to set the path to default
[15:47] <WavyGravy> nm
[15:48] <WavyGravy> all i need is a terminal command to set the default wallpaper path, heh
[15:48] <Papa-Smurf> guys how can i use powetop to tune up my machine?
[15:48] <HelloWorld321> escott: http://pastebin.com/3mkZ6CzE
[15:49] <escott> Papa-Smurf, the third tab has a few kernel parameters you can fiddle with to see if they reduce power usage. if you have some kind of hybrid graphics though there may not be much you can do, because hybrid graphic support is poor
[15:50] <todd> MonkeyDust: Lol its not installed! thanks!!!
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> Papa-Smurf  i used it once, to disable some services, but in the end, nothing worked anymore ;)
[15:50] <Papa-Smurf> thanks escott and MonkeyDust , do you guys mean the "Frequency stats" tab ?
[15:51] <escott> Papa-Smurf, the last tab. maybe its not the 3rd
[15:51] <Papa-Smurf> escott, there is one that says "Tunables" in my version
[15:52] <escott> Papa-Smurf, that sounds correct
[15:52] <escott> HelloWorld321, this is very strange. how old is this computer
[15:52] <Papa-Smurf> escott, i can switch the things on the list there from Bad to Good, but i duno if that changes something
[15:53] <mikefarr> escott, that gnome utility was not installed - once installed and rebooted i was able to access the sound settings and had a hardware section where I selected the appropriate device and can now hear audio and going to test the mic now - thanx!
[15:54] <Papa-Smurf> thanks escott
[15:54] <Papa-Smurf> it does not look very intuitive powertop
[15:54] <HelloWorld321> escott: it's clearly the i915 driver, but it shows as physical id 2 (http://pastebin.com/3mkZ6CzE)
[15:54] <escott> Papa-Smurf, be careful with kernel tunables. you can cause the system to lockup
[15:54] <HelloWorld321> escott: um ... maybe 6 years?
[15:55] <escott> HelloWorld321, for some reason your Xorg -configure thought there were three cards
[15:55] <Papa-Smurf> escott, OMG!
[15:55] <HelloWorld321> escott: it's a Gateway GM5416E
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> Papa-Smurf  what escott says, it's what i had
[15:55] <bytesofbinary> can anyone help me with a simple problem? I had skype 2.2 from the ubuntu repo. I uninstalled it and tried to install the deb file downloaded from skype.com. I get the error here : http://pastebin.com/v56R4Bzu
[15:56] <kRush> how do I change the command-line for a program on the launcher?
[15:56] <HelloWorld321> if you're interesetd in the specs: http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/R/1009440/1009440sp2.shtml
[15:56] <zykotick9> kRush: edit the .desktop file
[15:56] <marcin82> edit file e.g. skype.desktop
[15:56] <marcin82> as root
[15:56] <marcin82> updatedb && locate filename.desktop
[15:56] <Papa-Smurf> MonkeyDust Holly Shit! I've changed them all!
[15:57] <bytesofbinary> marcin82: Edit what? I didn't get you
 how do I change the command-line for a program on the launcher?
[15:57] <gigix> TheLynx: spyder ? vim + python plugin ? eric ? eclipse + plugin ?
[15:57] <marcin82> that was for kRush
[15:57] <escott> HelloWorld321, that claims nvidia geforce
[15:57] <kRush> thx
[15:57] <bytesofbinary> marcin82: okay
[15:58] <HelloWorld321> escott: that's the fried video card that I pulled out
[15:58] <escott> HelloWorld321, have you tried booting a livecd?
[15:58] <escott> HelloWorld321, because if that doesnt complain maybe you are better off just reinstalling
[15:59] <HelloWorld321> escott: I have not.  K.  I guess I am sorta thinking that I need to do some of the things I didn't really want to.
[15:59] <escott> Papa-Smurf, can doesn't mean will. if it works then it works
[15:59] <bytesofbinary> Any solution people with my skype problem? I'm still getting the problem at http://pastebin.com/v56R4Bzu
[15:59] <Papa-Smurf> escott, I haven't reset yet, fingers crossed!
[16:00] <escott> HelloWorld321, its just very hard to figure what is going on here, but if it will work on a livecd then you at least eliminate the "I had an nvidia ppa which might have left screwy config files in /etc" from the possible causes
[16:00] <HelloWorld321> escott: the reason I didn't want to do that was because the CD rom is jammed also.  I feed my Ubuntu such crap, I'm bad, I know.  But I should get a new CD-Rom, and I should get a new video card for it.  I can boot from a USB stick, I'msure I've got one around here somewhere, who took my USB stick ...?
[16:00] <escott> bytesofbinary, uninstall the current version first
[16:01] <gigix> bytesofbinary, you have to remove you current skype first
[16:01] <HelloWorld321> Escott: if I re-install, will I be able to keep my data files?  I have 'em backed up on SpiderOak, so it'll be okay if I can't.
[16:01] <bytesofbinary> escott and gigix: I did that. I uninstalled skype 2.2 from the software center.
[16:02] <Kikody> escott: everything worked, but where do i find the "vmlinuz line" ?
[16:02] <bytesofbinary> Still the same problem
[16:02] <escott> HelloWorld321, i think there is an option to preserve the contents of /home. not sure though.
[16:02] <zpsaii> Hi
[16:02] <escott> bytesofbinary, then you need to purge it as well
[16:02] <gigix> bytesofbinary, what does "sudo apt-get purge skype*" say ?
[16:02] <escott> Kikody, run "grep vmlinuz /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[16:03] <bytesofbinary> escott and gigix: haven't done that. doing it and reporting.
[16:03] <Kikody> escott: as root?
[16:03] <escott> Kikody, within the chroot. (you are already root, but grep doesn't change anything)
[16:04] <escott> Kikody, sorry we jumped ahead. you havent done the grub-install yet
[16:04] <escott> Kikody, inside the chroot first run "grub-install /dev/sdc" (verify that sdc is the correct device)
[16:04] <Kikody> ok
[16:05] <escott> Kikody, then run "grep vmlinuz /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[16:05] <bytesofbinary> escott and gigix: thanks man. purging didn't work. had to manually remove the i386 skype package and then it worked :D
[16:06] <bytesofbinary> escott and gigix: thanx a lot guys!
[16:07] <Kikody> ok escott: it says 'root=/dev/sdc1'
[16:08] <escott> Kikody, ok what does grep "UUID" /etc/default/grub show? is it a line that begins with #?
[16:09] <vampirnata> I've googled for help regarding byobu and seen that F9 will take me to a config screen where I can change colors, window settings, etc. But on mine it gives me very limited options. Is there something I am doing wrong?
[16:10] <vampirnata> nevermind, looks like those setting were depreciated :/
[16:10] <dvdproblem> hey guys, dvd playback still failing.  linux doesnt even recognize that anything is in the dvd drive, installed medibuntu libdvdcss and installed etc, don't know what to do next. ? :(
[16:10] <vampirnata> settings*
[16:11] <Kikody> escott: it shows the line 'root@ubuntu:/#'
[16:11] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: does the drive work in other OS?
[16:11] <harrrismrubin> will this work in ubuntu http://www.amazon.com/Targus-Wi-Fi-Laser-Mouse-AMW58US/dp/B005MR598O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339910423&sr=8-1&keywords=Targus+Targus+Wi-Fi+Laser+Mouse+-+Black+%28AMW58US%29
[16:11] <Jordan_U> escott: Kikody probably doesn't have an initrd in /boot/, without an initrd linux can't use a UUID to search for the root and thus grub doesn't try to pass one.
[16:11] <zykotick9> dvdproblem: for reasons i don't know - i've always had to restart after installing libdvdcss2 to get it to work
[16:11] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, yep, it does I've a win 7 partition, but i dont want to use it
[16:12] <harrrismrubin> will this work in ubuntu http://www.amazon.com/Targus-Wi-Fi-Laser-Mouse-AMW58US/dp/B005MR598O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339910423&sr=8-1&keywords=Targus+Targus+Wi-Fi+Laser+Mouse+-+Black+%28AMW58US%29
[16:12] <escott> Jordan_U, he as an initrd. boot is dropping him to busybox. he cant find root for some reason (perhaps the fact that he is installed on usb mass storage, but booting with a device id not uuid)
[16:12] <dvdproblem> zykotick9, yep, i've restarted too, i'm truely stuck as to what to try next
[16:12] <dvdproblem> irc was my last hope lol, been on all the forums too
[16:12] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: any errors reported in dmesg?
[16:13] <grade1000> Where to find programs, games, movies 0day?
[16:13] <Kikody> escott: it shows the line 'root@ubuntu:/#'
[16:13] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, nothing, the computer doesnt recognize anything inserted (when its a dvd) other cds work, like linuxformat dvds and blank dvds etc
[16:13] <zykotick9> !warez | grade1000
[16:13] <grade1000> please private
[16:13] <grade1000> please private me
[16:13] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: have you tried using vlc?
[16:14] <harrrismrubin> will this work in ubuntu http://www.amazon.com/Targus-Wi-Fi-Laser-Mouse-AMW58US/dp/B005MR598O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339910423&sr=8-1&keywords=Targus+Targus+Wi-Fi+Laser+Mouse+-+Black+%28AMW58US%29
[16:14] <Kikody> so what is the next step escott?
[16:14] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, yes, vlc replies with, "could not open disc"
[16:14] <cek> uvesafb says "unkwonw mode option"
[16:14] <escott> Kikody, ok "grep UUID /etc/default/grub" responded with nothing?
[16:14] <dvdproblem> trying to open /dev/dvd
 edit file e.g. skype.desktop << those changes are global though, I can't change this just for my user?
[16:15] <Kikody> yes
[16:15] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: you're not mounting the disc are you?
[16:15] <oCean> grade1000: in case you forgot to read the topic when you entered the channel, this is for Ubuntu technical support only.
[16:15] <[valentinus]> hey, guys
[16:15] <escott> Kikody, well we can try to hand edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[16:15] <[valentinus]> does anyoneknow howto make compiz work? :)))
[16:16] <[valentinus]> I mean compiz fusion
[16:16] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: do you have /dev/dvd?
[16:16] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, I can't mount the disc ?
[16:16] <bazhang> [valentinus], try #compiz
[16:16] <[valentinus]> oh, really
[16:16] <[valentinus]> thanks
[16:16] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: you shouldn't mount the disc if you are trying to play it
[16:16] <Kikody> ok escott
[16:16] <dvdproblem> yes, ive /dev/dvd and /dev/dvdrw
[16:16] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: what's /dev/dvd sym linking to?
[16:16] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, i was just trying to mount it to try to access it at all
[16:16] <escott> Kikody, run blkid | grep sdc1. then edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and find those root=/dev/sdc1 on the vmlinuz lines and change them to root=UUID=????? replacing ???? with the uuid you found from blkid
[16:17] <DasEi> I need  help with a nasty segate sata error, really tried much and even changed drive/cable/controller/distro/kernel .. system crawls and freezes here and then, details :  http://pastebin.ca/2162199
[16:17] <DasEi> or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=933053&page=3
[16:17] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, sr0
[16:18] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: try this: edit ~/.config/vlc/vlcrc and add #DVD device (string) /line break dvd=/dev/sr0
[16:18] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: /line break means next line :)
[16:18] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, ok I'll try it thanks
[16:19] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: also make sure your user is in the optical group
[16:20] <juggle> hi
[16:20] <juggle> after update my ubuntu, i have got compiz error, how to i solve it
[16:20] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, how do I check if my user is in that group?
[16:20] <Vampire0> dvdproblem,  type "id" in a terminal
[16:21] <vampirnata> or just type groups
[16:21] <vampirnata> but i suppose id is shorter :D
[16:21] <dvdproblem> Vampire0, i'm not in the optical group, im in "cdrom" is that enough?
[16:21] <Kikody> escott: i couldn´t find grub.cfg :-?
[16:22] <escott> Kikody, are you in the chroot?
[16:22] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: add yourself to optical
[16:22] <Vampire0> I don't know dvdproblem, I just answered that one question, I don't know what you guys are talking about, I just get highlighted constantly when you mention vampirnata :-)
[16:22] <Kikody> well, the terminal in which i have done that is open, if you mean that escott
[16:23] <escott> Kikody, and you tried to edit that file from that terminal right?
[16:23] <vampirnata> Vampire0: you need to edit your notification settings :p
[16:23] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, I'm a bit of a noob here, is it just addgroup  command?
[16:23] <escott> Kikody, otherwise the file is /mnt/ubuntu/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[16:23] <Vampire0> No vampirnata, my notification settings are fine, thanks
[16:23] <escott> Kikody, chroot means "change root" means "change what / means"
[16:23] <Kikody> you got me escott... ;-)
[16:23] <juggle> after update my ubuntu, i have got compiz failed error, how to i solve it
[16:23] <vampirnata> well since you get highlighted when people speak to me then not really hey ;p
[16:24] <Vampire0> Better being highlighted too often than too less
[16:24] <escott> Kikody, its absolutely crucial that you run the grub-install from the same terminal that you ran chroot. if you didn't do that run grub-install from that terminal window now
[16:25] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: sudo useradd -G {group-name} username
[16:25] <Vampire0> If someone says Vampy or whatever, even if I don't like it I want to see that someone speaks to me ;-)
[16:25] <vampirnata> fair enough :)
[16:25] <burra> Oh... Where am I? XD
[16:25] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, group optical doesn't exist :-/
[16:26] <escott> dvdproblem, and there is nothing in dmesg | grep -C5 sr0
[16:26] <Vampire0> I've never heard of a group optical, what is it for vampirnata ?
[16:26] <cek> too many problems!!
[16:27] <vampirnata> Vampire0: i've got one on my desktop arch linux setup
[16:27] <vampirnata> Vampire0: to play dvds
[16:27] <escott> juggle, what graphics card do you have?
[16:27] <Kikody> escott: i did so
[16:27] <Vampire0> But this is about Ubuntu, not arch linux :-)
[16:27] <dvdproblem> escott, yes but it doesnt show errors, i can paste you the info?
[16:27] <escott> !paste | dvdproblem please do
[16:28] <vampirnata> Vampire0: i know, i didn't search if there was an optical group in ubuntu :p guess I should have before suggesting it
[16:28] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: did you try the vlc config edit?
[16:29] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, yeah - still could not open dvd
[16:29] <Vampire0> I guess cdrom is the according group on Ubuntu and there dvdproblem is in
[16:29] <HelloWorld321> Don't let me forget to buy my parts.  But I'ma start my re-install first.
[16:30] <dvdproblem> escott vampirnata http://pastebin.com/xi1myNjZ
[16:31] <vampirnata> it looks like it's not recognizing it as a dvddrive
[16:31] <escott> dvdproblem, it came in as sg1how about dmesg | grep -C 5 sg1
[16:31] <dvdproblem> hmmm.. strange
[16:31] <escott> dvdproblem, i would expect to see something when you insert a disk
[16:31] <vampirnata> try edit the vlc config again and change to /dev/sg1
[16:31] <harrrismrubin> escott,  will this work in ubuntu http://www.amazon.com/Targus-Wi-Fi-Laser-Mouse-AMW58US/dp/B005MR598O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339910423&sr=8-1&keywords=Targus+Targus+Wi-Fi+Laser+Mouse+-+Black+%28AMW58US%29
[16:31] <DasEi> darn, had to boot another box, messenger also crashing
[16:32] <escott> harrrismrubin, no idea
[16:32] <Kikody> escott: grub.cfg has a writelock; how do i save it?
[16:32] <Kikody> escott: i edited with the editor, not with the terminal
[16:32] <DasEi1> I need  help with a nasty segate sata error, really tried much and even changed drive/cable/controller/distro/kernel .. system crawls and freezes here and then, details :  http://pastebin.ca/2162199
[16:32] <DasEi1> or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=933053&page=3
[16:32] <escott> Kikody, are you editing as root? if you are in the chroot thats automatic b/c the chroot is inside sudo -i otherwise you need to use gksudo to get a root editor
[16:32] <dvdproblem> escott, vampirnata http://pastebin.com/90tztN7N ok i'll edit to sg1
[16:33] <harrrismrubin> will this work in ubuntu http://www.amazon.com/Targus-Wi-Fi-Laser-Mouse-AMW58US/dp/B005MR598O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339910423&sr=8-1&keywords=Targus+Targus+Wi-Fi+Laser+Mouse+-+Black+%28AMW58US%29
[16:33] <escott> dvdproblem, actually sg1 may be the hard disk. my misreading
[16:34] <HelloWorld321> Is there any reason that 32-bit 12.04 LTS is recommended on the download page? Is it because it's detecting that I'm downloading on a 32-bit Win machine?  or is there really some reason not to go with 64-bit ubuntu?
[16:34] <vampirnata> escott: i don't think so. sd would be the harddisk
[16:34] <escott> HelloWorld321, 64bit can run 32bit. the reverse is not true
[16:34] <zykotick9> HelloWorld321: it's assumed most people will want 32bit...
[16:34] <dvdproblem> well sg1 doesnt play the disc anyway guys lol
[16:34] <escott> vampirnata, sg# is the internal kernel identifier for SCSI type devices including sata
[16:35] <DasEi1> HelloWorld321: nothing wrong with 64, 32 needs pae for more then 4g total ran, including graphics
[16:35] <vampirnata> escott: okay, my bad
[16:36] <Testiculus> hi
[16:36] <Comics-Idees> hi I have an intellipen pen-mouse can I find or create driver for ubuntu?
[16:37] <andrewaclt> Comics-Idees, creating it yourself is likely impossible if you're an average user
[16:37] <andrewaclt> Comics-Idees, have you tried googling the device name + linux?
[16:37] <falco_gw> Hi, my Hdmi-port on my laptop is not working, is that normal with ubuntu?
[16:37] <dvdproblem> escott, vampirnata thanks for helping me out guys, appreciate it even if we can;t get to the bottom it
[16:37] <arch_adam> how can i list the update ubuntu has to offer before install?
[16:38] <andrewaclt> arch_adam, sudo apt-get -s upgrade
[16:38] <andrewaclt> for simulated
[16:39] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: you've got libdvdread4?
[16:39] <Comics-Idees> andrewaclt  I cannot find from the site of intellipen
[16:39] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, yep, newest version
[16:40] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: and you've run sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css/sh?
[16:40] <Comics-Idees> andrewaclt  It says something about linux but I could not find any driver for linux
[16:40] <dvdproblem> maybe my dvd drive is just bricked
[16:40] <vampirnata> dvdproblem:  oops, /install-css.sh
[16:40] <andrewaclt> Comics-Idees, says something about the vendor who doesn't produce drivers for it, what is the device called?
[16:41] <dvdproblem> yep, but i ran it again for good measure
[16:41] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, ^^
[16:41] <Comics-Idees> intellipen wired pen-mouse
[16:41] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: try sudo chmod 660 /dev/sr0; chgrp cdrom /dev/sr0
[16:41] <arch_adam> can i choose what updates to install?
[16:42] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, "chgrp: changing group of `/dev/sr0': Operation not permitted"
[16:42] <Comics-Idees> andrewaclt  intellipen wired digital pen & mouse
[16:42] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: did you run it sudo?
[16:42] <escott> vampirnata, did you have him check the permissions first?
[16:42] <escott> dvdproblem, no point in doing that unless you run ls -l /dev/sr0 first
[16:42] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, yep, :-(
[16:43] <Armadillogeddon> question...
[16:43] <andrewaclt> Comics-Idees, vendor says its compatible
[16:43] <Fabbe> wtb Volt cola! offer!
[16:43] <dvdproblem> escott, I ran that, and then tried but chgrp still doesnt permit me
[16:43] <Fabbe> wtb Volt cola! offer!
[16:43] <escott> dvdproblem, but what did it say?
[16:43] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: something mounted on sr0?
[16:44] <dvdproblem> chgrp: changing group of `/dev/sr0': Operation not permitted
[16:44] <Armadillogeddon> Can I make a program run in tty1 on startup?
[16:44] <dvdproblem> escott, pi@buster:~$ ls -l /dev/sr0
[16:44] <dvdproblem> brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Jun 17 17:00 /dev/sr0
[16:44] <Womkes> Does anybody know a good open source / free utility (bootable from CD) which I can use to low level format a disk and do a thorough check of the disk ?
[16:44] <escott> dvdproblem, those permissions are correct. nothing to change
[16:45] <escott> Womkes, ubuntu install cd
[16:45] <Womkes> escott fuck totally forgot about that :D
[16:45] <Womkes> thanks
[16:45] <dvdproblem> escott, seems like a mystery that this doesnt work, perhaps just broken drive?
[16:45] <oCean> Womkes: control your language here, please
[16:45] <Womkes> shit sorry man didn't mean to
[16:46] <dvdproblem> escott, well, it works in windows actually, so.. huh, i dont know.
[16:46] <oCean> Womkes: last warning, stop it
[16:46] <dvdproblem> back in 10 minutes guys escott vampirnata
[16:47] <EuroNerd> what's a good Linux distribution for an old computer (PIII era) and really easy to use (for my parents) ?
[16:47] <fira> Lubuntu
[16:47] <andrewaclt> ubuntu
[16:47] <oCean> EuroNerd: you are in an ubuntu channel.
[16:47] <quixotedon> EuroNerd: some may suggest puppylinux
[16:47] <l0lcat> Damn Smal Linux?
[16:48] <fira> It's Ubuntu core, without Unity/Compiz/Gnome, and lightweight GUI
[16:48] <oCean> EuroNerd: try ##linux for general linux discussion
[16:48] <fira> can run with as much as 128 MB ram
[16:48] <EuroNerd> oCean, ok
[16:48] <fira> or so i heard
[16:51] <duoi> Hi all. Can someone point me in the right direction of calculating page size for virtual memory? or alternatively can give me a quick run down of it? im studying for a final and cant find any information on the lectures, but its in a sample exam we were given. the sample question has a 32bit virtual address, 16 kbyte virutal page size, 32bit PTE and 2gb physical memory
[16:53] <Testiculus> sup
[16:54] <oCean> duoi: that is not really an Ubuntu question, maybe try the ##computerscience channel?
[16:54] <jeffreyjellyfish> does anyone on this channel know how to work with pitivi?
[16:54] <jeffreyjellyfish> (particularly, the effects for it)
[16:55] <duoi> oCean: you're right. i was hoping someone in here could help because i usually idle in here and this channel is a little more active. ill try there now.
[16:55] <Comics-Idees> andrewaclt  I need a driver
[16:55] <jeffreyjellyfish> or do they know how to direct me to the proper channel for pitivi
[16:55] <jeffreyjellyfish> ?
[16:56] <oCean> jeffreyjellyfish: /join #pitivi
[16:56] <jeffreyjellyfish> well that's simple enough
[16:56] <jeffreyjellyfish> thanks
[16:59] <dvdproblem> escott, & vampirnata hey guys back, any other ideas?
[16:59] <DasEi1> ubuntu 12,04 :
[16:59] <escott> dvdproblem, what errors did you get when you tried to mount /dev/sr0 /media/dvd
[17:00] <dvdproblem> escott, "no medium found on /dev/sr0"
[17:01] <dvdproblem> escott, it doesnt see anything inserted into the dvd drive for some reason
[17:03] <vampirnata> dvdproblem: oh just something silly to try but have you tried another dvd?
[17:04] <dvdproblem> vampirnata, yeah, I tried 3 dvds in case the first 2 were co-incidentally faulty
[17:04] <Kikody> how do i start gedit as root?
[17:04] <Vampire0> Kikody,  "sudo gedit"
[17:04] <bazhang> !gksudo | Vampire0 Kikody
[17:04] <oCean> Kikody, Vampire0 no: gksu gedit
[17:05] <dvdproblem> I *have* had dvd playback before, it was back in a fedora 13 instalation
[17:05] <Vampire0> Ah, ok, sorry
[17:05] <Comics-Idees> andrewaclt  I search for EPOS wired digital pen & mouse or Intellipen  linux drivers and cannot find anything
[17:05] <dvdproblem> and the dvd playback works in a win 7 partition
[17:06] <Kikody> thanks
[17:06] <dvdproblem> so that's ruled out faulted drive, i just don't know what it could be
[17:06] <dvdproblem> i mean, i dont play dvds much on my computer, so I guess i can live with it
[17:06] <dvdproblem> it's just annoying
[17:06] <arch_adam> is it possible just to update the security upgrades or select which ones to perform the update on?
[17:06] <recon69_lap> dvdproblem: did you install the property DVD stuff?
[17:07] <dvdproblem> recon69_lap, i installed the whole medibuntu and restricted extras, as far as I know, i've got everything needed to play DVDs, but for some reason, my computer just isnt recognising a dvd disc inserted in the first place
[17:09] <Kikody> escott: now i should have worked. What to do next?
[17:09] <escott> Kikody, so where are you now? does your grub.cfg say root=UUID=.....
[17:09] <Kikody> yes
[17:10] <escott> Kikody, then close everything up and reboot
[17:11] <recon69_lap> dvdproblem: and you have libdvdcss2 installed ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[17:11] <escott> recon69_lap, i think his problem is lower level than that. he cant even mount the dvd. even with css he should be able to mount it
[17:11] <Comics-Idees> andrewaclt user says it supports linux but I cannot find any driver for linux
[17:11] <Kikody> ok escott, i´ll inform you whether it was successful; a lot of thanks for your help until now!
[17:12] <recon69_lap> dvdproblem: you did say the DVD worked when you booted to windows?
[17:12] <dvdproblem> recon69_lap, yeah, newest version, I'm pretty sure I have everything installed
[17:12] <dvdproblem> recon69_lap, yeah, dvd playback works in windows :-/
[17:13] <dvdproblem> I was hoping to do away with windows, but I could keep it for playing dvds
[17:13] <recon69_lap> dvdproblem: do data cd's work in that drive?
[17:13] <nut> hi yall
[17:13] <dvdproblem> recon69_lap, yeah, i've got a few linuxformat magazine dvds that i've accessed without problem
[17:14] <recon69_lap> dvdproblem: and you sure libdvdcss is installed ?
[17:14] <dvdproblem> the computer just doesnt recognize any dvd inserted, its strange
[17:14] <dvdproblem> recon69_lap, yeah, installed it there about an hour ago I think, and rebooted
[17:15] <falu> after booting i have no ethernet connection until i restart networking with "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart". any ideas or tips?
[17:16] <Guest10163> do i need to join ubuntu community to work this??
[17:16] <Brustofski-Fan> sudo apt-get -f is not doing anything...      E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gdm_3.0.4-0ubuntu15_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/pixmaps/nobody.png', which is also in package mdm 1.0.4
[17:17] <dvdproblem> hey guys, I have to go now, "fathers day" dinner - thanks for all your help, I'll check on forums and report back tomorrow if that's OK.
[17:17] <dvdproblem> cya
[17:22] <escott> Brustofski-Fan, why not remove the other display manager
[17:22] <escott> Brustofski-Fan, nevermind mdm is not a display manager
[17:24] <paanii> hello everyone
[17:24] <yousef1337> hello
[17:24] <Brustofski-Fan> escott: isent a dkpg command that help fix things?
[17:24] <paanii> i need to sync my blackberry with my ubuntu 12.04
[17:25] <escott> Brustofski-Fan, if the only collision is the pixmap you could just force it with --force
[17:26] <WeThePeople> when i plug my headphones in the speakers on the laptop are still on how do i shut them off
[17:27] <Guest73634> how can i release usb wireless adapter?
[17:29] <escott> HAly, use iwconfig to disable it, then rmmod
[17:29] <HAly> how? iwconfig power off?
[17:30] <escott> HAly, try ifconfig wlan0 down
[17:31] <ron__> My atheros ar5212 won't work under ubuntu 12.04. Where can I find some help ?
[17:32] <escott> ron__, atheros is usually well supported. what problems are you having
[17:33] <ron__> no wireless connection, I am newbie
[17:33] <escott> ron__, open a terminal and type "iwconfig" and paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com'
[17:33] <karley> http://superuser.com/questions/437995/asus-p877-v-lx-memory-with-1-stick-works-in-b1-but-not-in-a2 free rep for wild guesses
[17:34] <Kikody> thank you a thousand times escott ;-) you solved the problem :-)
[17:34] <amh345> what the best way using commandline to find out applications are using cpu
[17:34] <HAly> escott, the command runs with no error but wireless is still there
[17:34] <Kikody> these lines i wrote from the now working installation
[17:34] <amh345> im maxing at 100% cpu usage and i dont know why
[17:35] <escott> Kikody, solved it for now. if that UUID ever goes away its going to drop you back to initramfs and you'll have to manually fix it again. the boot method you are using (install the usb mass storage) is not always the best supported
[17:35] <HAly> escott, I actually want to stop the adapter to use it in virtualbox
[17:35] <ron__> Done. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1045888/
[17:35] <escott> HAly, yeah im not entirely sure
[17:36] <oCean> amh345: run the top command or, htop (sudo apt-get install htop)
[17:36] <HAly> escott, thank's anyway
[17:36] <escott> ron__, and when you click on the network icon in the upper left and go to network preferences what does it say about the wireless
[17:36] <Kikody> escott: you´re right but now i know how to fix that
[17:36] <escott> karley, you might try ##hardware. matching dram though?
[17:37] <ki7rw> this is interesting from running aptitude search: pi  libusb-dev       if i understand what i've read, the p means that the package isn't installed while the i says its installed - well, is it installed or not?
[17:37] <Cyclohexane> Anyone got any neat ideas for performing remote backup (offsite) without having to wait 12hrs for a GB+ file to upload to e-mail / backup space?
[17:37] <escott> Cyclohexane, fedex?
[17:38] <ukim> Hi. I'm using ubuntu 11.10. I have deleted openjdk-6 and then installed open-jdk-7. Now  I can not launch netbeans 7. No error has been shown. How can I fix that?
[17:40] <ron__> Sagem wireless connection. Never used
[17:40] <escott> ron__, Sagem?
[17:40] <escott> !pm | Armadillogeddon
[17:41] <Armadillogeddon> I did
[17:41] <Armadillogeddon> Nothing happened. Should I repeat it?
[17:41] <escott> Armadillogeddon, yes
[17:41] <lucas-arg> any idea how to make luckybackup delete destination files that are not included in origen source?
[17:42] <ron__> Sagem. This is my router
[17:42] <Armadillogeddon> Can I set a program to run in a tty terminal on startup?
[17:43] <escott> ron__, so it shows it and when you try and run it what happens
[17:43] <escott> Armadillogeddon, please stop with the private messages.
[17:43] <Armadillogeddon> I'm trying to close it
[17:43] <escott> Armadillogeddon, you can put one off commands in /etc/rc.local, but it doesnt run on a tty
[17:44] <Armadillogeddon> kk
[17:44] <escott> ron__, you just cannot associate with it?
[17:45] <chrrisalk> I have a question if someone can help me
[17:45] <aaa> how can i set up a versioned directory? i want ubuntu to keep the old version when i update a file in that folder, so i can restore it i case of a crush or unintended change.
[17:46] <chrrisalk> I am trying to install Ubuntu on an older laptop running XP, it doesn't offer the option to load from a usb, when I dl'd the ubuntu the wubi wants to reboot, which it does but Ubuntu doesn't load from there
[17:46] <escott> aaa, for /etc you should be installing and using etc-keeper which is an apt aware wrapper around a RCS of your choice. otherwise just pick one. git/svn etc
[17:46] <ron__> When I double click it, it gives my Sagem settings SSID, Modus, BSSID, Mac Address etc...
[17:46] <escott> chrrisalk, wubi is different from a normal install. did you want a wubi install?
[17:47] <ricstr> hi folks, I hope someone can please help me. I have an acer aspire 5332 laptop. I am attempting to install ubuntu 12.04 x64. though it show a purple loading screen, then looks like the display changes resolution and stays blank. it has sat blank for about 5 minutes then the CD drives goes idle and then nothing else happens?
[17:47] <escott> !paste | ron__ can you send us a screenshot
[17:47] <chrrisalk> no,just want to get it on this unit to run as primary OS
[17:47] <akls> chrrisalk, wubi? wtf.. well, you need unetbootin to create a bootable usb with linux
[17:47] <list> ciao
[17:47] <list> !list
[17:47] <escott> chrrisalk, then you need to make an install cd, and use that
got that already
[17:48] <akls> chrrisalk, and you can't install from cd/dvd? then again, use unetbootin to get your livecd on usb, then boot from usb and install it
[17:48] <chrrisalk> ok, i've tried that but I'll go again
[17:48] <chrrisalk> got it, thank you
[17:49] <list> ciao
[17:49] <Matthewlawson3> Hey guys I am fairly new to ubuntu and I downloaded and installed the  codecs needed to run dvds and play mp3 etc, and now my Youtube videos in Chrome goes black on fullscreen. Can someone help me resolve this? I assume its a conflict between Chrome flash and the flash installed in the codec pack
[17:50] <list> ciao
[17:50] <WeThePeople> what do i gotta do to turn off the speakers on the laptop when i plug my headphones in
[17:50] <ricstr> hi folks, I hope someone can please help me. I have an acer aspire 5332 laptop. I am attempting to install ubuntu 12.04 x64. though it show a purple loading screen, then looks like the display changes resolution and stays blank. it has sat blank for about 5 minutes then the CD drives goes idle and then nothing else happens?
[17:51] <escott> WeThePeople, laptop? intel hardware?
[17:51] <Matthewlawson3> Hey guys I am fairly new to ubuntu and I downloaded and installed the  codecs needed to run dvds and play mp3 etc, and now my Youtube videos in Chrome goes black on fullscreen. Can someone help me resolve this? I assume its a conflict between Chrome flash and the flash installed in the codec pack. Fullscreen worked fine before
[17:51] <WeThePeople> laptop on pent 4
[17:52] <ron__> http://imagebin.org/216797
[17:52] <escott> WeThePeople, what kind of audio chipset "sudo lshw -C audio"
[17:52] <escott> WeThePeople, if that does nothing try the same with sound instead of audio
[17:53] <escott> ron__, and so what makes you say this is not working?
[17:53] <mputtr> if i want to SSH from windows 7 to a linux box by using nomachine's NX client, do i need to install a separate ssh program as well?
[17:53] <akls> ricstr, hm, try pressing ctrl+alt+f1, maybe it will get you to the TTY
[17:53] <oCean> !nickspam > KindSavr
[17:54] <akls> mputtr, on linux? just install ssh
[17:54] <KindSavr> oCean: It was like three
[17:54] <Matthewlawson3> Can someone help please. It would much appreciated
[17:54] <oCean> KindSavr: yes, and I ask you to stop at three
[17:54] <ron__> Have no wireless connection to the net. Working wired now.
[17:54] <escott> mputtr, i would assume that NX just provides the X server and you need putty or some other ssh client
[17:54] <mputtr> akls: my linux box has ssh and nomachine server set up already and i tested it so it works on the local level, but i have no idea how to access it from windows
[17:54] <akls> ricstr, if it will, then you probably have problems with graphics card drivers or something.. otherwise something worse is happening
[17:54] <user> oCean: I cant have such  a crap nick
[17:55] <ricstr> thanks akls, will reboot and give that try
[17:55] <ricstr> :)
[17:55] <mputtr> escott: so on the windows side, i would need to install putty to be able to access the linux box then?
[17:55] <akls> mputtr, oh, you just need a client..
[17:55] <WeThePeople> escott, driver=ATI IXP AC97 controller latency=64 mingnt=2
[17:55] <escott> mputtr, NX client and presumably putty yes
[17:55] <Matthewlawson3> I downloaded and installed the  codecs needed to run dvds and play mp3 etc, and now my Youtube videos in Chrome goes black on fullscreen. Can someone help me resolve this? I assume its a conflict between Chrome flash and the flash installed in the codec pack. Fullscreen worked fine before
[17:55] <oCean> Matthewlawson3: no need to repeat that quickly.
[17:55] <akls> mputtr, as far as I remember I used PuTTy some time ago..
[17:56] <mputtr> escott: so basically nx client would not be able to access my linux box because it doesn't know how ot ssh?
[17:56] <oCean> Matthewlawson3: have some patience, and try again in maybe 15 minutes
[17:56] <stimoceiver> hi, whats the default firewall in 12.04 ?
[17:56] <WeThePeople> escott, i used sound
[17:56] <Matthewlawson3> Ok thanks Ocean
[17:56] <oCean> !ufw | stimoceiver
[17:56] <escott> mputtr, i would be surprised if NX client included an ssh client.
[17:56] <HAly> my usb wireless adapter do not show up in virtualbox guest , so I can not use the adapter in guest  machin any help?
 Err msg: Bridged interface wlan0 is down. "Guest will not be able to use this interface"
[17:56] <mputtr> escott: one sec. im going to read up what the windows client offers
[17:57] <stimoceiver> oCean, whats strange is, ufw is disabled but iptables appears to be running. i thjink this is because i installed "fail2ban" script to protect ssh.
[17:57] <escott> ron__, so when you try to associate you dont get any error messages?
[17:57] <oCean> stimoceiver: not sure, but that is likely, yes
[17:57] <escott> HAly, if its bridged it needs to be running on the host
[17:58] <escott> HAly, right?
[17:58] <ron__> What do you mean with associate ?
[17:58] <stimoceiver> oCean the problem is, the default rule for input is set to "ACCEPT" - however I cannot telnet to localhost ports
[17:58] <mputtr> escott: according to nomachine, their windows client has ssh built into it
[17:58] <HAly> escott , yes it runs on the host with no problem
[17:58] <escott> ron__, you select your WAP from the list of WAPs that are seen
[17:58] <stimoceiver> oCean it says rejected
[17:59] <escott> WeThePeople, does it say intel HDA or High Definition Audio anywhere
[17:59] <mputtr> so that falls to how i am supposed to configure the server... and i have no clue what some of these stuff are like gnome,kde, cde, xdm
[18:00] <SDX> Gnome and KDE are desktop environments, to start.
[18:00] <ron__> When I select the Sagem entry nothing happens.
[18:00] <mputtr> ok
[18:00] <mputtr> SDX: so it's just a way the desktop is shown?
[18:00] <escott> mputtr, NX runs a specialized X server on the server that would need to start some kind of desktop environment or display manager
[18:00] <SDX> I have to consult Google for the second two.
[18:01] <escott> mputtr, so its probably asking you what kind of desktop environment you want to present on the other side
[18:01] <mputtr> escott: ok, so it's separate from what the linux box itself sees?
[18:01] <mputtr> escott: ahhhh ok
[18:01] <mputtr> so that really has nothing to do with establishing a connection
[18:01] <SDX> Ah.  CDE is "Common Desktop Environment" and xdm is X Display Manager.
[18:01] <escott> mputtr, SDX, CDE is the common desktop environment (old school SunOS? Motif ugliness) XDM is X display manager as opposed to GDM KDM
[18:02] <mputtr> ok
[18:02] <mputtr> what do you guys use/prefer
[18:03] <escott> mputtr, it sounds like it is asking for a display manager so the default in 12.04 is lightdm, unless you are using kubuntu in which case it might be kdm
[18:03] <mputtr> wierd.. so.. how do i do set it to lightdm? the only options i have are those 4 + a custom one
[18:03] <escott> ron__, what does iwconfig say after you try and select the Sagem
[18:04] <ron__> Same as posted before.
[18:05] <Relondo> So, I used "sudo apt-get install hibernate" to enable hibernation on my Precise 12.04 system. When I execute "sudo pm-hibernate", the computer displays a screen showing data compression progress. It finishes, displays the line SI, and then does nothing (it does not turn off). When I force-turn off by holding the power button, I can resume from hibernation as if it had worked properly. Does...
[18:05] <Relondo> ...anyone know why it didn't shut down after compressing and saving my data?
[18:08] <escott> ron__, what version of ubuntu are you running
[18:08] <jagger> I have ubuntu 12.04 64-bit and flash becomes really choppy over time. when the computer first starts up, flash runs fine, but after a few hours, it starts lagging. It happens in firefox and google chrome, but only on videos. I can play The Binding of Isaac swf in firefox with no problems. Does anyone have any ideas?
[18:09] <ron__> 12.04 LTS
[18:09] <Relondo> How can I add a "when power button is pressed" option to the power menu of system settings?
[18:09] <escott> ron__, when you go up to that up down arrow on the top of the screen and click on it it should show the WAPs it sees. "Sagem WiFi" is listed there, but when you click on it nothing happens?
[18:10] <Matthewlawson3> Hey guys I am fairly new to ubuntu and I downloaded and installed the  codecs needed to run dvds and play mp3 etc, and now my Youtube videos in Chrome goes black on fullscreen. Can someone help me resolve this? I assume its a conflict between Chrome flash and the flash installed in the codec pack. Fullscreen worked fine before
[18:10] <jagger> Anyone have any ideas about my problem?
[18:11] <ron__> Sagem Wifi is not there, everything that has to do with wireless connection is disabled (gray).
[18:12] <escott> ron__, what does "rfkill list" say
[18:12] <Relondo> Matthewlawson3: Do you have CCSM?
[18:12] <Matthewlawson3> What is CCSM? forgive me
[18:13] <escott> !ccsm | mathieuq
[18:13] <escott> !ccsm | Matthewlawson3
[18:13] <Relondo> Matthewlawson3: No, it's fine. Go to Ubuntu Software Center and search for Compiz Settings Manager.
[18:13] <WeThePeople> escott, did you get the pm
[18:14] <escott> WeThePeople, please dont pm. use paste.ubuntu.com
[18:14] <Matthewlawson3> What will CCSM allow me to do in regard to my flash Chrome issue?
[18:14] <Relondo> Matthewlawson3: It will allow you to change some necessary settings.
[18:14] <list> ciao
[18:14] <Matthewlawson3> ok hang on Relondo
[18:14] <list> !list
[18:15] <ron__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1045959/
[18:15] <escott> WeThePeople, how about lsmod | grep snd
[18:15] <WeThePeople> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1045962/
[18:16] <escott> ron__, its hard blocked. there should be a key or switch on the computer to enable the wireless
[18:16] <Matthewlawson3> Ok Relondo installing....what do I do after its installed?
[18:17] <ron__> No, I fear there is not. It's not a laptop.
[18:17] <WeThePeople> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1045964
[18:17] <RyuGuns> Anyone know of a good sketchup alternative for Ubuntu?
[18:17] <Relondo> Matthewlawson3: After it's installed, run it, go to the OpenGL tab, and make sure Sync is set to VBlank.
[18:17] <Matthewlawson3> OK hang on
[18:17] <escott> RyuGuns, blender would be the biggest name 3d modeling project but its nurbs based and not targeted at the same demographic
[18:18] <Relondo> Matthewlawson3: After that, when you load up the video, right-click it, choose Settings>Display, and uncheck Enable Hardware Acceleration. If you can't access that menu in Chrome, do it from Firefox, and the problem should be fixed in Chrome, as well.
[18:18] <Matthewlawson3> Relondo what is terminal run command for it?
[18:18] <Matthewlawson3> or where is it in the applications
[18:19] <Relondo> If you get it from the software center, you can just search for CCSM in the dash.
[18:19] <b4db1t> hi, anyone know a voice control program under ubuntu 12.04 gnome 3?
[18:19] <ron__> I have 2 wireless adapters installed. One Ralink, other is atheros.
[18:20] <Relondo> Matthewlawson3: Sorry, but I need to go. Hope that works for you :)
[18:21] <Matthewlawson3> OK thanks
[18:21] <Matthewlawson3> Appreciate it
[18:21] <Relondo> Matthewlawson3: No problem. Later.
[18:21] <mputtr> i can't seem to get the NX client to connect to the server.. it keeps on saying connection refused..
[18:22] <uKolka> I upgraded to the Skype 4.0 and now whenever I make a video call after some time it crashes the X server. The only thing it outputs into the nohup log file is "skype: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.". I wonder if it's the Skype's fault or the X's. My system is: Linux eME640G 3.2.0-25-generic-pae #40-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 23 22:11:24 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[18:22] <escott> mputtr, do you have a firewall or NAT?
[18:22] <mputtr> escott: not that i know of
[18:22] <escott> uKolka, both
[18:22] <mputtr> i've allowed the client through the firewall already (the windows firewall)
[18:23] <mputtr> and i believe i have already port forwarded port 22
[18:23] <mputtr> i think part of it is, i do not know how to find out what the host name is...
[18:23] <escott> mputtr, and is it using port 22
[18:23] <mputtr> yup
[18:23] <mputtr> atleast i think it is
[18:24] <WeThePeople> escott. fixed it thx
[18:24] <WeThePeople> alsamixer
[18:26] <mputtr> what should i do to find out what the proper host name to access the linux box from windows 7?
[18:26] <mputtr> would the host name be the IP address of the linux box?
[18:26] <escott> mputtr, unless you are running a DNS server on your router then it will be by ip
[18:27] <mputtr> ok, so considering how IP works with ISPs.. do i use the IP address that's defined by the ISP + port that the linux box is connected to then specify port 22?
[18:27] <mputtr> or do i use the internal IP?
[18:28] <escott> mputtr, are you coming across the WAN?
[18:28] <mputtr> no, both of them are connected via ethernet
[18:28] <mputtr> well.... somehow i got in...
[18:28] <escott> mputtr, so they are on the same subnet?
[18:28] <mputtr> escott: yup
[18:29] <escott> mputtr, then you use the ip address of the machine on that subnet
[18:29] <mputtr> i guess i changed something....... now i get a blank screen of my linux box.
[18:29] <mputtr> how do i actually pull up softwares and see the desktop?
[18:30] <mputtr> sorry, i know that this is probably aggravating for you to help a newbie like me :(
[18:32] <Matthewlawson3> Guys I tried to follow Relondo's advice up there and followed it to the T but it is still not helping with Chrome flash problems
[18:32] <cloudy> Hi - did an update that came in 2 days ago. Kernel now: 3.2.0-25-generic-pae #40-Ubuntu . Cannot resume after a suspend. Any idea how to debug that?
[18:32] <KRomeleoN> is it necesaary to scan for viruses in ubuntu? I have clam installed, how often to run it?
[18:33] <SS01> KRomeleon: Linux viruses are /extremely/ rare, you don't really need an antivirus program.
[18:34] <sleax>  hi to all, i have encrypted a password for grub2 with a PBKDF2 function , now i would to say: if encryption the passwd it takes about 1/4 second, why for the decryption it takes more time (more 3 sec)?
[18:35] <Matthewlawson3> Hey guys I am fairly new to ubuntu and I downloaded and installed the  codecs needed to run dvds and play mp3 etc, and now my Youtube videos in Chrome goes black on fullscreen. Can someone help me resolve this? I assume its a conflict between Chrome flash and the flash installed in the codec pack. Fullscreen worked fine before . I followed Relondo's instructions and that did not work
[18:36] <escott> sleax, its normal to insert delays when there is a failure
[18:37] <sleax> escott i know it, but the delay is given by the parameters of function, right?
[18:38] <Kerni094> hi guys
[18:38] <Kerni094> i have a little question. i have here a medion 8386xl and windows sucks. i thought now about to install ubutnu
[18:38] <escott> sleax, im not sure what the point of an encrypted grub is
[18:38] <Kerni094> my question is if i need any extra drivers
[18:39] <escott> sleax, why are you doing that?
[18:39] <Simeondahl> Hey
[18:39] <sleax> it uses PBKDF(password/passphrase,salt,length of hash,number of iterations)
[18:40] <sleax> the uses for example 1000 iteration it takes 0.5 sec
[18:40] <sleax> using 2000 it will takes 1 sec
[18:40] <sleax> but both in crypting such as decrypting..or not?
[18:40] <alankila> maybe the decryption function is slower than the encryption function. Hmm.
[18:41] <sleax> yes, but i would to know why..
[18:41] <escott> sleax, they should be the exact same. there is no "decryption" that goes on
[18:42] <sleax> it uses the same function..but why different times?
[18:43] <sleax> i.e. why decryption needs more time than encryption?
[18:43] <escott> sleax, more iterations takes longer. thats the point of iterations. but passwords are never "decrypted"
[18:43] <escott> sleax, they are hashed. and the hashes are then compared
[18:43] <sleax> but why more time?
[18:43] <sleax> if it should hash the same string
[18:44] <alankila> it's a fair point though. passwords are not normally decrypted, only calculation performed is the calculation process and then comparing the hash value with the stored hash value
[18:44] <alankila> therefore testing that the password is correct should literally take exactly the same time as it is the same process
[18:44] <escott> sleax, someone has clearly inserted a delay into the process of the authentication to prevent brute force attempts. i would expect it to be put at the end after the test fails
[18:44] <MikeWatt> hey everyone. I'm encountering a problem when I try to install updates for packages "E:The package index files are corrupted. No Filename: field for package pastebinit."
[18:44] <escott> sleax, but they must have decided to do it every time
[18:44] <alankila> only thing that is different in that when you first set the password, you generate the random salt; when you test the password, you read the salt from the existing password
[18:45] <MikeWatt> how can I fix the coruppted files?
[18:45] <Guest72489> Hi
[18:45] <alankila> MikeWatt: 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[18:45] <MikeWatt> alankila already tryed that. does not fix the problem
[18:46] <alankila> funny, it's supposed to generate the package index afaik
[18:46] <escott> sleax, why are you password protecting grub? whats the point of that?
[18:47] <sleax> nothing of particular, just more security
[18:47] <rhizmoe> so, i'm trying to troubleshoot some GUI lagginess, is a nvidia 8400GS too wimpy for unity?
[18:48] <escott> sleax, putting a password on grub does nothing for security. unless you mean you have an encrypted root fileysystem
[18:48] <aleminio>  hey guys, i've got a little problem in my server, when i create a folder or even when i copy one a folder to another destination from the CLI, I'm unable then uploading files to that folder using ftp connection from windows, it says permission denied, even tho the chmod is set to 755. but if i create a folder from my frp manager, it works fine... why is that happening and how can i fix it?
[18:48] <aleminio> copiying thousands of files with my ftp manager takes hours while using the cp command takes a minute, but then i'm getting this problem...
[18:48] <rhizmoe> or might it be my i5-2400?
[18:49] <rhizmoe> aleminio: you're connecting via ftp, creating the directory on the other side, then trying to copy to it?
[18:49] <mouth1> Hi, I have a problem. The Ubuntu desktop freezes in a way, that I can still type, do everything on the keyboard but the mouse doesn't work. I can move it around but it doesn't highlight anything in the launcher and the mouse buttons don't do anything. Can anybody please help me?
[18:49] <sleax> i know,with a live distro you can same mount the fs
[18:49] <sleax> however, yes i've my root fs encrypted
[18:49] <rhizmoe> aleminio: in other words, creating the dir underneath the ftp session?
[18:50] <alankila> rhizmoe: nah, the i5 should be plenty fast enough
[18:51] <alankila> the 8400 sounds dated though... iirc I had one of those and it must have been 5+ years ago
[18:53] <rhizmoe> alankila: it might indeed be that old
[18:53] <escott> rhizmoe, lagginess is also one of those things that isn't the most meaningful.
[18:54] <rhizmoe> i know, totally subjective. everything else is less than a year old though. 16G ram, current mobo
[18:54] <alankila> the i5 should have embedded gpu, you might try that instead
[18:55] <fishbait> i moved my swap partition and now my hibernate doesn't work. i created a swap on drive i wan, swapon, swapoff the one on the old drive the delete and resize to fill the unallocated space.
[18:55] <rhizmoe> mobo doesn't have graphics
[18:55] <mouth1> Anyone has the Samsung NC10 Plus?
[18:55] <fishbait> *want,
[18:56] <rhizmoe> intel dp67de
[18:56] <escott> rhizmoe, an i5 should have a graphics process, unless intel disabled it
[18:56] <rhizmoe> this particular mobo does not have monitor ports, even if the cpu has the feature
[18:57] <escott> fishbait, (a) there could be issues having the swap on another disk (b) you may need to update some configs in /etc to tell the kernel and initrd to check that location (c) you might need to run update-initramfs as well
[18:57] <mouth1> Is Unity2D faster on slow hardware than Unity3D?
[18:57] <escott> rhizmoe, then you just need a soddering iron. what could possibly go wrong
[18:57] <GrandCouillon> hello guys ! I've got a problem with Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome classic : when I start a program its window doesn't come on top of the others. It remains on last Z position. Any idea ?
[18:57] <kyew> q/uit
[18:57] <fishbait> what configs?
[18:58] <zykotick9> escott: i'd think updating fstab would be all that's required to have swap on another drive
[18:58] <fishbait> hmm ok i'll check fstab
[18:58] <rhizmoe> escott: :)
[18:58] <escott> zykotick9, for the swap yes, but for pm-hibernate
[18:58] <rhizmoe> it seems tell-tale that i can't find which level of PCIe this card has. might be 1x!
[18:58] <zykotick9> escott: that i wouldn't know - only system i use pm-hibernate on, has swap on the same drive ;)
[18:59] <aaas> how do i find the version of a parituclar package using apt?
[19:00] <rhizmoe> "PCIe 2.0"
[19:00] <fishbait> how do i find the uuid of the swap partition
[19:00] <escott> fishbait, sudo blkid
[19:00] <rhizmoe> aaas: installed or not-installed? apt-cache, generally
[19:00] <aaas> rhizmoe installed
[19:00] <fishbait> ty
[19:01] <aaas> rhizmoe ok found it apt-cache showpkg ...
[19:01] <aaas> thanks
[19:02] <enigmuriatic> can anyone link me to an article that gives a concise description of the ./insertfilenamehere thing in the terminal?
[19:02] <fishbait> okay the uuid in fstab for swap doesn't match sudo blkid
[19:02] <rhizmoe> aaas: also the --installed flag
[19:02] <enigmuriatic> does adding the dot just cause it to search for the file?
[19:02] <rhizmoe> enigmuriatic: what do you mean, "thing?"
[19:02] <rhizmoe> enigmuriatic: first period is the current director
[19:02] <rhizmoe> y
[19:02] <dr_willis> enigmuriatic: its just the path to the binary
[19:02] <escott> enigmuriatic, .=current directory /=directory separater filename=filename
[19:03] <rhizmoe> .. = parent directory
[19:03] <enigmuriatic> the binary?
[19:03] <rhizmoe> forget about the binary
[19:03] <rhizmoe> one period is current directory, two is parent
[19:03] <enigmuriatic> ah, great, thanks
[19:03] <enigmuriatic> i don't see the point of using it then, lol
[19:03] <enigmuriatic> considering you can reference the current directory without it
[19:03] <dr_willis> about the only time you use ./foo is to run foo
[19:04] <rhizmoe> enigmuriatic: it's to lock down the path, in case there is another foo somewhere else in your path
[19:04] <fishbait> okay corrected that little hiccup
[19:04] <dr_willis> to run the file.. it makes senve
[19:04] <enigmuriatic> ah i see. thanks
[19:04] <dr_willis> sence
[19:04] <fishbait> now to try pm-hibernate again
[19:04] <xcerca> Hey
[19:04] <dr_willis> why i called it a binary. ;)
[19:05] <rhizmoe> "It is a computing tradition that all concepts, whenever possible, must be explained through a complicated car analogy."
[19:05] <fishbait> epic fail it blinked
[19:06] <xcerca> is there much difference between Gnome3 out of the box, and Ubuntu Unity Desktop ?
[19:06] <fishbait> would dmesg | grep -i hiberbation be useful?
[19:06] <SDX> Just the desktop environment for the most part.
[19:07] <SDX> I think Unity is built on Gnome.
[19:07] <alankila> xcerca: they are different things. I use gnome3 myself because it gets more out of the way, I think
[19:07] <dr_willis> gnome shell is quite different from unity
[19:07] <fishbait> how do i read this things time
[19:07] <dr_willis> both are shells for gnome3
[19:08] <alankila> I wish the common unity menu and merging of the window title with the top bar would catch on though
[19:08] <fishbait> hmm i should reboot it just occured to me that i edited the swap in an fstab that hasn't been loaded yet
[19:08] <mputtr> so iw as able to access my linux box via nomachine setting it to gnome, but when i enter, i get a blank desktop and I can't do anything on it... am i screwing something up?
[19:08] <alankila> also fullscreen apps show some issues with gnome, sometimes the hot top left corner stops responding and sometimes I see the panel on top of the fullscreen window. Clearly not quite there.
[19:08] <dr_willis> thasts the 'global menu' ;)
[19:09] <alankila> not fullscreen it works, though.
[19:10] <dr_willis> mputtr:  try a different desktop/window maganer as a test. like fluxbox, or icewm
[19:10] <mputtr> on windows?
[19:10] <dr_willis> the desktop runs on linux side
[19:10] <dr_willis> the client is on windows side
[19:10] <mputtr> yup
[19:10] <dr_willis> to view the desktop
[19:11] <dr_willis> so try icewm desktop instead of gnome/unity
[19:11] <dr_willis> as a test. to see if the freenx is working right
[19:11] <dr_willis> its possible unity dont like freenx
[19:11] <mputtr> i c
[19:11] <fishbait_> okay back gonna try pm-hibernate
[19:12] <mputtr> i actually ended up using the nomachine server i can access the server, just can't do anything on it. i'm reading up on icewm and goign to see what to do
[19:12] <dr_willis> for a remote desktop - a minimal wm/desktop will be more responsive also
[19:12] <Devilz> hello everyone...i edited the squid.conf file as required which is running fine when i test it using squidclient command in terminal but i want to test squid through browser also can anyone tell me how to do that...thanks
[19:13] <dr_willis> icewm is just a nice old skool wm to test with. theres a dozen others you could use
[19:13] <mputtr> dr_willis: yeah, that's what i want to do
[19:13] <mputtr> it would probalby be the easiest if i can just directly access whatever my box is seeing... but mainly i just want to be able to control the box from a different computer
[19:13] <escott> dr_willis, who needs a window manager to test with, just start an xterm
[19:14] <escott> dr_willis, mice and guis are for wimps
[19:14] <dr_willis> easier to install a wm and select it in the session menus
[19:15] <fishbait> okay it worked
[19:15] <fishbait> now to check for any errors in the logs
[19:16] <fishbait> how do i read this timestamp 1.141530
[19:17] <escott> fishbait, seconds after boot
[19:17] <dr_willis> ive never figured those out either. ;)
[19:17] <D3RGPS31> just installed 12.04 on my netbook, asus 1215n-pu17; internal keyboard and mouse don't work, external does
[19:18] <escott> unless you have the stardate patch
[19:18] <dr_willis> nerd time. ;)
[19:19] <fishbait> it says  [    1.141530] PM:   hibernation  image not present or could not be loaded
[19:19] <Sorinan> There's a PPA for the kernels avaliable at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.4-precise/ ?
[19:19] <morsnowski> so I have a question that isn't exactly off topic but I'm not sure where it fits in. Today I copied 2 jrr Tolkien audiobooks from a usb stick to disk. I'm running 12.04 pretty much out of the box. Now I have ad's from google and facebook for tolkien audiobooks.
[19:19]  * D3RGPS31 My-my-my-my errors hit me, so hard, makes me say 'Oh My Stallman'
[19:19] <Sorinan> the ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa seems to be extremely outdated
[19:19] <mputtr> well... i changed it to XDM and i can now see the desktop.. but still no dock or anything else
[19:19] <morsnowski> OK forget to ask a question, who the f*** do they spot lokal transactions?
[19:20] <morsnowski> well how rather than who
[19:20] <BlueEagle> fishbait: Then the hibernation image is not present or it could not be loaded for another reason.
[19:20] <fishbait> how do i track this down
[19:20] <escott> fishbait, did you update-initramfs?
[19:20] <modernrob> morsnowski: adblock and history eraser will take care of that
[19:20] <fishbait> no i'll try it
[19:21] <dr_willis> 'i would guess its from things you did in the browser. not files in your home. ;)
[19:21] <morsnowski> modernrob, that doesn't anwser the question how they get hold of my local file transactions
[19:21] <BlueEagle> fishbait: Well you would need to look to where the initrd is attempting to locate the hibernation image and check if that location is the same when the hibernation image is created as when the initrd is running. I have seen issues earlier where a USB-drive was enoug to make the initrd not locate the hibernation file.
[19:21] <dr_willis> morsnowski:  i doubt if they did
[19:21] <morsnowski> nope dr_willis that was pure local
[19:21] <mputtr> somehow i can access the desktop but not the dock or the top bar via CDE... but i still can't see a way to bring up the dock
[19:21] <lduros> changing the session in lightdm.conf doesn't work?
[19:22] <fishbait> this was after changing the loaction of swap partition
[19:22] <BlueEagle> fishbait: Mind you that this was a couple of kernels ago, and I no longer hibernate as I have an SSD that takes 0.4 seconds to boot (benchmark is not verifiable) :P
[19:22] <morsnowski> it's here in front of me and I most certainly didn't use the browser to copy files and haven't looked for jrr stuff in ages
[19:22] <on3pk> So, an interesting thing happened.  I tried the Ubuntu 12.04 LiveCD and it forces me to use a rotated display on my external monitor
[19:23] <dr_willis> morsnowski:  or they been tracking your browser to look at ismiler asites/books/things and its a cincendance
[19:23] <escott> on3pk, forces?
[19:23] <fishbait> okay it sucessful
[19:23] <morsnowski> well from FB and google at the same day ?
[19:23] <on3pk> escott, or, rather, the only display options under 'rotation' are Clockwise and Counterclockwise
[19:23] <fishbait> gonna try pm-hibernate again will report back the results
[19:24] <dr_willis> morsnowski:  it can happen. sites share info for targeted ads
[19:24] <BlueEagle> fishbait: I'll find something to cross while you're at it.
[19:24] <morsnowski> dr_willis, i'll keep an eye out for that but i found that scary
[19:24] <Abhijit> hi. while installing any new application from terminal, ubuntu ask me to do dpkg --configure -a and then it start downlaoding flash plugin. but it do not show any progress bar or %. how do i know that its not hang and it is actually downloading something? or how do i just completely remove this error so that i can install any new  applications smoothly? help please.
[19:24] <dr_willis> really good when the wife uses your system - then you get ads for stuff targeted to her..
[19:25] <dr_willis> adblock is my friend. ;)
[19:25] <CellTech> Has anyone here rooted an android on ubuntu or xubuntu?
[19:25] <on3pk> it uses the intel 945 chipset... I couldn't find much about this with Google... has anyone heard of this before?
[19:27] <Abhijit> hi. while installing any new application from terminal, ubuntu ask me to do dpkg --configure -a and then it start downlaoding flash plugin "flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.236.orig.tar.gz" . but it do not show any progress bar or %. how do i know that its not hang and it is actually downloading something? or how do i just completely remove this error so that
[19:27] <Abhijit>  i can install any new  applications smoothly? help please.
[19:27] <fishbait_> mmm perhaps i should try rebooting
[19:27] <theom3ga> I used to have windows installed in a partition, but I deleted all the files from it. However, grub keeps detecting it
[19:28] <theom3ga> how can I avoid that?
[19:28] <dr_willis> rerun update-grub theom3ga ?
[19:29] <escott> theom3ga, you can see what os'es are being detected with os-prober
[19:29] <theom3ga> dr_willis: I re-run it and it keeps saying Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[19:29] <escott> theom3ga, did you just delete the files in /dev/sda1
[19:29] <cek> Battery indicator visibility settings not saved using sys config util!
[19:29] <theom3ga> escott: it says /dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain
[19:29] <mputtr> if i wanted to access the desktop that is on my linux box.... how would i go about doing that?
[19:29] <cek> the option "show battery status in menu bar" in particular. What's up with that?
[19:29] <mputtr> via windows
[19:29] <theom3ga> escott: yep, deleted all of them (not formatted, there are some files I need to keep that have nothing to do with windows)
[19:29] <dr_willis> you could chmod -x the osprober script in /etc/grub.d
[19:30] <escott> theom3ga, you probably need to reformat
[19:30] <dr_willis> bbl
[19:31] <escott> theom3ga, also its a VERY BAD idea to be using NTFS without a windows system to fsck it
[19:31] <theom3ga> escott: the thing is that I have a windows system in other HD
[19:31] <escott> theom3ga, as long as you have one somewhere
[19:37] <mputtr> damn.. i can't seem to bring up the dock or top bar...
[19:37] <mputtr> am i missing something
[19:38] <escott> mputtr, what do you have in your nx config at the moment
[19:38] <mputtr> Desktop: Unix -- GNOME
[19:39] <escott> mputtr, hard to say what that means
[19:39] <mputtr> display is 1024X768. disabled encryption of all traffic
[19:39] <mputtr> but apart form that, everything is default
[19:39] <MateoDeMateo_> i'm having some trouble getting a desktop/gui/gnome running on a stripped down ubuntu 10.04 lts
[19:40] <mputtr> i was suggested to install kubuntu desktop
[19:40] <mputtr> i dont know if that would show the who gui
[19:40] <rublind> I'm having some major networking trouble, and I'm not sure if it's my router or my ubuntu installation. Anyone have a second to help?
[19:40] <MateoDeMateo_> i know it's not ideal to run a gui on a server, but i'm still working on the whole remote vnc thing
[19:41] <escott> MateoDeMateo_, what vnc server are you using?
[19:41] <fishbait> my swap uuid is verified to be correct how do i go about tracking down what is causing it not to hibernate?
[19:41] <CellTech> Why is my channel list not letting me into another room
[19:41] <MateoDeMateo_> mputtr: i ran "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and "apt-get install "gnome-desktop-enviromnet", but no gui runs
[19:41] <escott> mputtr, and what do you see on the other machine?
[19:41] <mputtr> escott: i see the desktop, but no dock, no top menu
[19:42] <MateoDeMateo_> escott: i'm not
[19:42] <escott> mputtr, what do you mean "the desktop"
[19:42] <mputtr> basically just the background with a single file that i have on the desktop
[19:42] <mputtr> but i'm literally not seeing anything else
[19:43] <mputtr> imagine ubuntu's default desktop but remove the side bar and the top bar. that's all i see
[19:43] <mputtr> i can't even hit alt f2 to bring up the side bar
[19:43] <escott> mputtr, why dont you right click and say create new folder. then click on that folder, then navigate to /usr/bin and find gnome-terminal and double click on that
[19:43] <mputtr> ok im going to do that right now
[19:44] <fishbait> i can't hibernate after having moved my swap file
[19:44] <fishbait> to a different physical drive
[19:45] <mputtr> ok
[19:45] <mputtr> i see the terminal
[19:45] <escott> fishbait, i wonder if that is even supported. what else is there in dmesg around that message that it cant find the image
[19:45] <fishbait> nothing
[19:45] <fishbait> thats the only message
[19:45] <escott> mputtr, now we can have some fun. how about ps aux | grep unity or ps aux | grep compiz
[19:46] <fishbait> and its now 1.165512
[19:46] <escott> fishbait, your entire dmesg is the one message?
[19:46] <escott> fishbait, that makes no sense
[19:46] <fishbait> no no no i dmesg | grep -i hibernation
[19:46] <mputtr> escott: this is probalby going to cause you to facepalm.. but how do i do the bar thingyou did btween aux and grep
[19:46] <escott> fishbait, i want context dmesg | grep -C20 -i hibernat
[19:47] <Logos01> Greetings. I am attempting to install kernel 3.5.0rc3 from kernel.ubuntu.com -- but my nVidia graphics driver is erroring out. When I look into the /usr/lib/modules/3.5.0.. directory, I notice there is no "sources" subdirectory. Where could I acquire this?
[19:47] <fishbait> okay
[19:47] <escott> mputtr, usually shift \ which is just above the enter
[19:47] <Logos01> This is for kernels located at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/..
[19:47] <mputtr> ahhh
[19:47] <fishbait> i installed pastebinit do i do pastebinit | command?
[19:47] <escott> mputtr, thats ok. i remember thinking (many years ago) what is this | character?
[19:47] <lduros> could anybody tell me how to switch from ubuntu to xubuntu session only from ssh? I tried to change lightdm.conf but it did not have an effect
[19:47] <mputtr> ok, so i see a bunch of numbers paths
[19:48] <Logos01> fishbait: No, you do command | pastebinit
[19:48] <escott> fishbait, the reverse command | pastebinit
[19:48] <fishbait> okay
[19:48] <mputtr> my keyboard shows | with a break in the middle.. that's why i had no idea how to do that symbol
[19:48] <rublind> anyone know what the command to flush the routes are?
[19:48] <escott> mputtr, ignore any lines that include "grep" but do any of those show?
[19:49] <fishbait> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046083 the results
[19:49] <mputtr> this is what i see http://pastebin.com/JnZ7nitY
[19:50] <Logos01> Anyone? I am attempting to install kernel 3.5.0rc3 from kernel.ubuntu.com -- but my nVidia graphics driver is erroring out. When I look into the /usr/lib/modules/3.5.0.. directory, I notice there is no "sources" subdirectory. Where could I acquire this?
[19:50] <escott> fishbait, -C not -c cApITAlizaTIOn is importANt
[19:50] <fishbait> ah ty
[19:51] <mputtr> this is what i see when i tried ps aux | grep compiz http://pastebin.com/rjkChV4A
[19:51] <fishbait> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046087 the results
[19:51] <mputtr> without the grep line
[19:51] <tgm4883> is there an api for paste.ubuntu.com?
[19:52] <Logos01> ... am I even being read here? Are my messages getting through?
[19:52] <escott> mputtr, sounds like unity is running, but the issue is probably that you dont have GLX on the NX session or that something about it doesnt work. you might want to install gnome-panel or unity-2d and try to configure those to be default sessions
[19:52] <mputtr> ok so install gnome-panel
[19:52] <tgm4883> Logos01, yes
[19:53] <Logos01> Lovely. Well, at least it's not that then.
[19:53] <mputtr> i'm assuming with gnome panel i can actually directly control the desktop?
[19:53] <Logos01> I guess nobody in here has a clue how to help me then?
[19:53] <tgm4883> Logos01, I just joined, so I don't know what your question was
[19:53] <cek> how do I change the step of birghteness change?
[19:54] <escott> fishbait, you can see at the bottom of that message that ATA is being brought up AFTER pm hibernate gives up searching. you would have to do something to tell pm-hibernate to look on another disk or to wait a bit longer to search on other disks
[19:54] <Logos01> tgm4883: I've asked it a couple of times now. Hold on I'll repost.
[19:54] <fishbait> how do i do that?
[19:54] <Logos01> I am attempting to install kernel 3.5.0rc3 from kernel.ubuntu.com -- but my nVidia graphics driver is erroring out. When I look into the /usr/lib/modules/3.5.0.. directory, I notice there is no "sources" subdirectory. Where could I acquire this?
[19:55] <escott> fishbait, no idea, there might be a kernel arg, but you will need to check the pm-hibernate documentation
[19:55] <fishbait> okay
[19:55] <mputtr> ok so ii just installed gnome desktop.. i'm going to have to figure out where gnome desktop is or how to configure it
[19:56] <tgm4883> Logos01, heh, yea you probably are going to have issues getting help with that in this channel
[19:56] <Logos01> mputtr: /usr/bin/gnome-panel, IIRC.
[19:56] <Logos01> tgm4883: Yeah, that's been my experience in general when it comes to #ubuntu. Pretty low on the competence threshold.
[19:57] <tgm4883> Logos01, well this channel is for general support
[19:57] <mputtr> oh sweet... now i see the top and bottom bars
[19:57] <Logos01> mputtr: (I may not but an ls /usr/bin | grep panel would get you more information.)
[19:57] <tgm4883> you're asking a pretty specific technical question
[19:58] <Logos01> tgm4883: Yeah well. The very notion that the kernel sources is a "pretty specific technical question" as opposed to "general support" is exactly what I mean.
[19:58] <tgm4883> Logos01, perhaps you are looking for #gentoo
[19:58] <escott> Logos01, but he needs a session manager as well. mputtr needs to make some kind of reference to an Xsession.d session
[19:58] <Logos01> tgm4883: You sir are being unnecessarily assholish.
[19:58] <Logos01> There is no call for that.
[19:58] <escott> !language | Logos01
[19:58] <tgm4883> Logos01, and you are asking a question that wouldn't fall under generic support for any distro
[19:58] <mputtr> escott: is nomachine not a session manager?
[19:59] <Logos01> escott: Grow up.
[19:59] <Logos01> tgm4883: "Where do I get the kernel sources for this kernel packaged by this distro" isn't generic support?
[19:59] <Logos01> Since when?
[19:59] <escott> Logos01, these are the rules of the channel. if you dont want to follow them please leave
[19:59] <Logos01> Dammit, I knew there was a reason I thought this channel was fucking beyond help.
[19:59] <escott> mputtr, no its not
[19:59] <tgm4883> Logos01, is that something a normal user would do?
[19:59]  * tgm4883 sighs
[20:00] <mputtr> escott: ok. so i have to look up xsession.d
[20:00] <rublind> I'm having trouble reaching the outside world from my ubuntu machine. any suggestions on what to look out for?
[20:00] <mputtr> all i want to do is to be able to access wahtever my main desktop is seeing... nomachine seems to create a separate session, but i can access the dash or anyting else
[20:01] <escott> mputtr, the NX config should reference in some form, sessions defined in xsession.d. its not something i am at all familiar with. it would be easier to have NX start a display manager like lightdm or xdm and pick a session
[20:01] <medotyou> aweh
[20:01] <claire> rublind: could you define 'trouble'
[20:01] <escott> mputtr, its a completely different display from what might be on a monitor (if one is attached to the computer). if you want to access a session running on a physically connected monitor you need to be using vnc
[20:02] <rublind> claire: I can't curl google, I can't ping google, I CAN dig google. but I can ssh from local network.
[20:02] <mputtr> escott: so vnc is the only way to access the desktop that would've been outputted to a monitor?
[20:02] <escott> rublind, can you ping 8.8.8.8
[20:02] <rublind> escott: tried that, nope.
[20:02] <escott> mputtr, not the only way, but the easiest
[20:02] <mputtr> i c
[20:02] <claire> rublind: what about other than google?
[20:03] <escott> mputtr, vnc runs on top of X, NX runs in place of X
[20:03] <mputtr> i know that vnc is a little slow because they're screenshots that are constantly refreshed
[20:03] <rublind> claire: nope.
[20:03] <mputtr> escott: oh ok
[20:03] <claire> rublind: can you www yahoo or any other
[20:03] <rublind> claire: http://my.di.af/2dead9.png
[20:03] <matthewlawson3> Guys how do you setup networking between WIndows 7 and Ubuntu
[20:03] <escott> mputtr, and Xvnc runs a specialized version of X to be closer to what NX does
[20:03] <rublind> claire: nope. =/
[20:04] <mputtr> escott: i'll see if i can try out xvnc instead then
[20:04] <claire> rublind: ip ro li
[20:04] <escott> mputtr, VNC should not be "slow" on a local network with enough bandwith
[20:04] <claire> and past the result
[20:04] <mputtr> the purpose of this linux box is so that i can use it as a media storage/playback
[20:04] <escott> rublind, then can you ping your gateway?
[20:04] <rublind> claire: http://my.di.af/51a887.png
[20:04] <rublind> escott: yes.
[20:04] <mputtr> it'll be connected to the TV for playback as well as store data. but i also want to be able to directly control it from any computer from anywhere
[20:05] <rublind> escott: I'm connected to it via ssh on the same network, so it can talk to the gateway.
[20:05] <escott> mputtr, you have to decide (a) do you need full desktop or only one off applications (b) do you need session persistence (ie you close the window, and start it again and its still there) (c) do you need to access the same session on the physically connected monitor or a new session
[20:05] <mputtr> c
[20:06] <rublind> mputtr: are you going to use something like xbmc or plex? if so, they have their own remotes which should be able to anything without needing to vnc
[20:06] <matthewlawson3> Need help networking Ubuntu Linux to Windows 7
[20:06] <mputtr> rublind: i do plan on getting xbmc/plex as well. but i'm also going to be running zone minder
[20:06] <escott> mputtr, if your answers are "full desktop" "yes" and "same session" then you need to login and start vino, then connect with vnc to vino
[20:07] <mputtr> vino and vnc to vino.
[20:07] <mputtr> ok, i'm going to see what i can do
[20:07] <rublind> so escott, claire any ideas? I'm kind of stumped.
[20:08] <escott> rublind, sounds like you have tried most of the things i would have tried
[20:08] <rublind> escott: I guess that's both good news and bad :p
[20:09] <MikkelPaulson> hey folks, server question: is it possible to forward traffic on a specific port to a remote IP? I'm setting up a Minecraft server on my home computer, but I want people to connect via my Ubuntu VPS IP
[20:09] <claire> rublind: your dns works but not routing
[20:09] <claire> you might be beside a missconfigured firewall
[20:09] <rublind> claire: yeah, but the routes look correct, which is wierd
[20:10] <MikkelPaulson> ideally I'd be able to manage/log/block IPs from my Minecraft server, but that seems unlikely
[20:10] <escott> !ics | MikkelPaulson with some iptables rules
[20:10] <claire> or a dons proxy but no routing
[20:10] <sgarfio> Hi, first time visitor here.  I need to install Ubuntu on a friend's netbook with a 3.8 GB internal flash drive, but the installer says I need at least 4.2 GB to install it.  I keep seeing references to an "Ubuntu Netbook Remix" that sounds hopeful, but I don't see where to actually download it. The Ubuntu Downloads page only has links for Desktop (which is what I attempted to install), Server, and Cloud.  Any suggestions?
[20:10] <dcw329> to block ip's on a minecraft server you need to go int othe minecraft server folder
[20:10] <dcw329> and you can set up a black list
[20:10] <rublind> claire: no proxying going on. at least their shouldn't be. I always have routing issues after a kernel update. but this is the worst it's ever been =(
[20:10] <escott> sgarfio, netbook remix was folded into mainline with 11.04
[20:11] <MikkelPaulson> yeah, but if all traffic is being forwarded from the VPS, all traffic on the Minecraft server will appear to come from that IP, no?
[20:11] <dcw329> you can block individual users
[20:11] <claire> rublind: what is your setup: xDSL -> kind of box -> WiFi/LAN -> computer ?
[20:11] <dcw329> that person's account will no longer be able to join your server
[20:12] <MikkelPaulson> that's true
[20:12] <Nach0z> hey guys, question for you: I have a set of USB headphones here, and they ship with Windows drivers but no Linux drivers, how do I register USB headphones as a sound device in Ubuntu?
[20:12] <dcw329> go to minecraft server>band-players
[20:12] <rublind> claire: not sure I fully understand but I have AT&T uVerse, with a crappy 2Wire router. the ubuntu machine is hardwired and connected via wireless to that router.
[20:12] <MikkelPaulson> okay, thanks for the help, folks
[20:12] <MikkelPaulson> guess that's my excuse to learn more about iptables
[20:12] <dcw329> well, to solve the problem, that will do it. just ban the player
[20:13] <sgarfio> Bummer.  Is there a way I can get one of the 10.x distributions?  I do have a CD with 11.x on it but that also seems to require 4.2 GB also.
[20:13] <dcw329> i understand the desire to learn more, and just use it as an exuse
[20:13] <escott> MikkelPaulson, you could also do an ssh tunnel. that might be easier to setup
[20:13] <dcw329> im just not sure how to do tha tparticulare setup
[20:13] <MikkelPaulson> escott: that was my first idea, but the documentation I found online all discussed it as a client thing rather than a server thing
[20:13] <dcw329> i plan on actually dialing into my computer with an SSH connection on ubuntu and run my server from clients around net
[20:14] <Jonii_> Hey, you know how to use network printer that's in windows network when I'm using ubuntu?
[20:14] <claire> rublind: did you try to restart the router?
[20:14] <dcw329> and then develop an android app to be a client and send commands to my server
[20:14] <rublind> claire: yep, and it works for a few minutes and then stops.
[20:14] <rublind> claire: you thinking it might be a problem with the router?
[20:14] <Jonii_> Based on my google search, I'd have to guess it's impossible as no one seems to be ever even attempting on doing it
[20:14] <dcw329> nothing is impossible
[20:14] <dcw329> this is linux
[20:15] <MikkelPaulson> QOTD
[20:15] <escott> Jonii_, i imagine you would have to install samba. but you can also check https://localhost:631 and see if it can be configured there
[20:16] <claire> rublind: it could. It is either your router (i assume you cannot change its routing / firewall config) ao
[20:16] <claire> rublind: or your routing table. result of "ip ro li" from the shell of your computer would help
[20:16] <BlueEagle> Jonii_: I googled "cups windows print server" and the 2nd link is: Print from Linux to Windows Server
[20:17] <claire> rublind: are you connected through that router just now ?
[20:17] <claire> rublind: I mean for chatting
[20:17] <BlueEagle> Jonii_: http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/print_from_linux_to_windows_server.html
[20:17] <rublind> claire: yeah, lemme get you the netstat -rn version, since OS X doesn't have ip or route
[20:17] <rublind> claire: http://my.di.af/adbadd.png
[20:18] <sandbags> Hi there. Can anyone tell me what package I should install to get the /usr/share/dict/words file? Or where it might be on 10.04 (I also checked /usr/dict)
[20:18] <escott> !find /usr/share/dict/words 10.04
[20:19] <escott> !find /usr/share/dict/words lucid
[20:19] <claire> rublind: I missed something, where is the linux, where is the OSX ?
[20:19] <sandbags> escott: thanks
[20:19] <escott> sandbags, ^^^
[20:19] <kerni094> hi i have a big problem
[20:19] <rublind> claire: I'm chatting from OSX, which is where the last screenshot is from. it's connected to the same router.
[20:19] <BlueEagle> kerni094: My feet are itchy. What's your problem?
[20:20] <kerni094> i just installed ubuntu but in the end there was an error that grub couldnt be installed
[20:20] <kerni094> what should i do now?
[20:20] <deepspeed> so go install grub
[20:20] <kerni094> my pc isnt booting
[20:20] <deepspeed> use a live distro
[20:20] <deepspeed> knoppix is great
[20:20] <escott> kerni094, boot the install cd again. pick "try ubuntu"
[20:21] <kerni094> okay i will try this
[20:21] <sandbags> !find /etc/dictionaries-common/words lucid
[20:21] <deepspeed> or just re-install, but then you gotta re-write ALL the date to your hard drive.
[20:21] <mputtr> holy sweet awesomeness
[20:21] <deepspeed> data*
[20:21] <BlueEagle> kerni094: I suggest you boot the liveCD, mount the installed filesystem including dev- and sys-binds and chroot to that root partition and do a dpkg-reconfigure grub2
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  finally get it working?
[20:21] <claire> rublind: so you have DSL with WiFi and Ethernet. Two computer: OSX and Linux. => Both using WiFi? <=
[20:21] <mputtr> i just got the side dash to pop up.. i just had to add a line
[20:21] <mputtr> gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d
[20:21] <sandbags> okay this is puzzling. Installing dictionaries-common gave me 'words' as a symlink to a non-existent file /etc/dictionaries-common/words !
[20:21] <deepspeed> Listen to BlueEagle
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  so freenx does not like Unity-3d eh?
[20:21] <mputtr> so i had to set the desktop environment as custom and tell it to run that command
[20:21] <rublind> claire: correct. the Linux one is _also_ hardwired with ethernet.
[20:21] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: seems like it :(
[20:21] <sandbags> what am i missing?
[20:22] <escott> sandbags, what about wamerican
[20:22] <sandbags> ah presumably i need wamerican as well
[20:22] <sandbags> escott: yeah, just figured it out :)
[20:22] <mputtr> now i just have to figure out if i can access the desktop that is outputted to the dispaly
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  you mean the desktop in use on the remote box. Like vnc does on windows.
[20:23] <mputtr> this is fantastic.. all it needed was a single command line XD
[20:23] <claire> rublind: Does this means that when you update the Linux box you have trouble on both Linux and OSX ?
[20:23] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: yeah... that's just icing though
[20:23] <rublind> claire: no, when I update the Linux box, I only have trouble on Linux.
[20:23] <rublind> claire: OSX never has trouble.
[20:23] <mputtr> i got the core working, now i just want to learn how to add the meat and fats to the system XD
[20:23] <rublind> (in that regard, at least :p)
[20:23] <BlueEagle> kerni094: http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/ should help you quite a long way.
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  id bet its faster to not have it displayed there. :) unless you need a shared desktop feature
[20:24] <mputtr> well, i was hoping to be able to control the desktop so i can have it run media files and stuff when it's connected to the tv :)
[20:24] <claire> rublind is applefanboy...
[20:24] <mputtr> since this box will be connected to the tv
[20:24] <rublind> claire: nah, not a fan boy, just a user.
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  vlc and otehr players can have remote control features.
[20:24] <escott> mputtr, from NX  i dont think you can (at least not with a standard configuration) because NX creates its own X server
[20:24] <claire> rublind: so may I have the output of 'ip ro li' from the linux box?
[20:25] <BlueEagle> !msg > kerni094
[20:25] <mputtr> escott: got it. it creates a separate environment  from waht is outputted
[20:25] <escott> mputtr, but you can point NX at localhost:0.0 and it should be ok
[20:25] <rublind> claire: I sent that earlier, but here it is againhttp://my.di.af/22b530.png
[20:25] <claire> rublind: i am a user too
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  if you have a smart phone. thers vlc, an boxee and xbmc and other remote-apps to controll the differnt players
[20:25] <rublind> claire: but not a fan? :p
[20:25] <Hetep-AFK> hola, is sound juicer for ripping cd's?
[20:25] <mputtr> ah. that's cool. i just want to be able to make the output desktop to play stuff on the tv..
[20:26] <deepspeed> Hetep-AFK,  try googling it...
[20:26] <mputtr> otherwise i can just have it run as a 3rd monitor for my windows machine
[20:26] <mputtr> i'm going to try xbmc or plex for media server
[20:26] <ironhalik> Hello guys
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> plex is nice. but i dont think it has a media center on linux like it does on widnows
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> xbmc or boxee are related to plex. and can use the plex media server nicely
[20:27] <ironhalik> Ive got a problem - after I restore my PC from sleep, ubuntu wont display anything. The backlight is on, I can enter my password etc, but the screen is black
[20:27] <claire> rublind: i am Linuxfanboy, but realistic... So try disconecting the linux box from WiFi
[20:28] <claire> rublind: You might have a conflict between the two networks
[20:28] <rublind> claire: heh -- I've tried to do sudo ifdown wlan0, but it complains
[20:28] <oid> Iron try crtl+alt+f1
[20:28] <rublind> claire: it says "ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured"
[20:28] <claire> rublind: than sudo ifconfig wlan0 0.0.0.0 down
[20:28] <ironhalik> oid: yeah, it works - I can login and kill lightdm, start it again and it works
[20:29] <mputtr> i c
[20:29] <claire> and check that the is no more wlan0 in ip ro li
[20:29] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: so i get plex server and us xbmc for playback
[20:29] <oid> Sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[20:29]  * Tuxedage looks around
[20:29]  * Tuxedage gets scared
[20:30] <rublind> claire: I did that, and I can curl google again, but wlan0 is still showing up (seemingly active) with ifconfig...
[20:30] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  yea. most video players can see the plex upnp server.  Unless you really need the  fancyness you are not loseing out  by useing vlc or other players
[20:30] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: got it
[20:31] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: one more question. is there a way for me to be able to access my server when it is shut down or when I force it to restart?
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  the fact plex can stream to my android phone is a big plus for me however. ;)
[20:31] <claire> rublind: do you mean that your internet is now working fine? but that ifconfig has the flag UP for wlan0 ?
[20:31] <mputtr> yeah, i think i'm probably going to exploit that feature since i have the hp touchpad with cm9
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  theres the wake on lan feature. but i never use it. I just leave mine on. :)
[20:31] <rublind> claire: yep! I think it's lying to itself.
[20:31] <rublind> claire: thank you for your help, btw :)
[20:32] <claire> rublind: or you have a NetworManager kindof that is trying to setup WiFi again
[20:32] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: i just want to be able to start it up again if something happen like powerloss
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  'gmote' is a neat little streaming service/tool for a pc to android also.  its a lot simplier then plex. Not sure how updated it is.
[20:32] <rublind> claire: maybe. I'm running this headless, but I think unity is running. I don't know how to stop it from the command line.
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  you would have to be on a local lan pc to use wake on lan i imagine.
[20:33] <Garr255> .
[20:33] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: so... i can't do it from somewhere else.. say if i'm halfway around the world?
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  i cant imagine how - without some special hardware or hireing a maid. ;)
[20:34] <claire> rublind: my explanation would be: your box is doing dns proxy (as many) to DNS is working from the local eth0 network. BUT: default routing WAS set to wlan0 ,which was missconfigured. so you could not cross the box
[20:34] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: roflmao understandable..
[20:34] <claire> rublind: sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop
[20:34] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  somne bios's have a 'restart on power off' feature. i thought..  i forget what pc i had - that had that feature.
[20:34] <claire> rublind:  if ubuntu 12.12, otherwise might be gdm or mdm
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  if i unplugged it.. and pluygged it back in. it would power back up.
[20:35] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: another question: if i restart my box (say something went wrong or i need to update stuff when i'm halfway around the world), would i be able to relogin via nx server?
[20:35] <rublind> claire: 12.12? too soon! too soon! I'm using 12.04 but that worked.
[20:35] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: i think i have that feature on my bios. i'll set it to restart then
[20:35] <kerni094> blueeagle: thanks for the link but i dont unterstand it right. that first command should be like this: sudo mount /dev/meda/xx /mnt/myroot right?
[20:35] <rublind> claire: something does keep bringing wlan0 back up though.
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  if nxserver is running . You may as well set it to start up at boot time
[20:35] <GeekAdmin> does ubuntu run on tablets?
[20:35] <mputtr> ok so i have to tell it to run on boot...
[20:35] <__eagle__> hi there
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> GeekAdmin:  theres starting to be some Linux tablets comming out. One is out now i hear with Kubuntu on it.
[20:35] <claire> rublind: "ps ax | grep Netw".  would tell you if it is still here
[20:36] <rublind> claire: yep, NetworkManager is running.
[20:36] <GeekAdmin> Dr_Willis:  but I cant add ubuntu to a tablet?
[20:36] <claire> rublind: "ps ax | grep wpa" you might have wpa_supplicant
[20:36] <__eagle__> dunno how big deal it is for others but been using ubuntu for almost two years and i hated that the launcher is placed on the left. im using ubuntu 12 and is there a way to move it to the bottom of the screen or remove it all together?
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> GeekAdmin:  it would depend on how hacvkable the tablet is.. ive not seen/heard of it done at this time. but it may be doable.
[20:37] <rublind> claire: yep, have that too
[20:37] <claire> rublind: ps afx | more and you might find who
[20:37] <Dr_Willis> GeekAdmin:  theres the #ubuntu-arm channel also.
[20:37] <claire> rublind: you can also try to fix your wifi connection issue
[20:38] <harrrismrubin> does anyone use a wifi mouse
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> wifi mouse? Seen wireless mouses'' but never a wifi one.. only bluetooth, or dedicated dongles..
[20:38] <rublind> claire: yeah, but one thing at a time -- I'm having trouble accessing a web service running on that box from anywhere outside that box. >.<
[20:39] <claire> rublind: including local network? even if WiFi is down?
[20:40] <rublind> claire: yeah, I don't understand it. =|
[20:41] <claire> rublind: on the linux box: netstat -apn | grep :80    and see if the eth0 ip is listed (or 0.0.0.0:80)
[20:41] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: so i went into gnome and to startup preferences
[20:41] <daze> wifi mouse? o_O
[20:42] <daze> is it solving the problem of being 50 meters from the pc? :]
[20:42] <__eagle__> dunno how big deal it is for others but been using ubuntu for almost two years and i hated that the launcher is placed on the left. im using ubuntu 12 and is there a way to move it to the bottom of the screen or remove it all together?
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> __eagle__:  theres unofficial hacks to move it to the bottom.
[20:42] <rublind> claire: it's running on 0.0.0.0:8080 (http://my.di.af/635a8c.png) but for some reason I can't get to it.
[20:42] <daze> __eagle__: there is a way to move the launcher to the bottom :]
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> __eagle__:  check the webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites. ive seen it mentioned there.
[20:42] <__eagle__> where is it? cant find on google
[20:43] <__eagle__> any help on finding a link pls?
[20:43] <mputtr> and... halfway through configuring it.. my darling loving gf just walked by and kicked the powercable out of it....
[20:43] <Dr_Willis> Unofficial and unsupported by us. and last i heard. it was flakey
[20:43] <Dr_Willis> __eagle__:  you could just use some other dock at the bottom and set the left side panel to auto hide/be small
[20:43] <daze> __eagle__: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=unity+launcher+bottom
[20:43] <Flannel> daze: Don't ever do that again please, thanks.
[20:44] <Dr_Willis> the panel on the left is becomming second nature to me. I even have my windows box set up the same way.
[20:44] <daze> :)
[20:44] <mputtr> well that works.....
[20:44] <Flannel> daze: I'm serious, you will be removed from this channel if you continue to be rude like that.
[20:44] <daze> ok, sorry :]
[20:44] <Daghdha> Hi i am trying to get VirtualBox to suspend a running machine when the host shuts down or reboots. But i can't find a good way
[20:44] <daze> wasn't trying to be rude :|
[20:44] <Dr_Willis> mputtr:  :) you wouldent start the nx server from the users startup preferances anyway normally...
[20:44] <__eagle__> k thnax guys
[20:44] <mputtr> i just litearlly accessed my box via windows before i even logged in on my linux box
[20:44] <Daghdha> Does anyone have this set up?
[20:44] <mputtr> Dr_Willis: XD
[20:44] <frunaz> hey guys
[20:45] <__eagle__> its just too annoying that we are on linux so we are free to control but with this launcher thing we are stuck like applie does
[20:45] <mputtr> ok... so my startup screen is all wierd with a silver colored theme... is that because of kubuntu?
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> __eagle__:  You can always use a idffernt desktop. or set up compiz with some other dock.
[20:45] <claire> rublind: from your OSX, ping to Linux is OK? telnet http://192.168.1.98 8080
[20:46] <rublind> claire: nope, unable to connect to remote host.
[20:46] <Dr_Willis> compiz + awn  is nifty.
[20:46] <rublind> claire: other services running on the same box are fine though.
[20:46] <Dr_Willis> !dock
[20:46] <frunaz> _eagle_ try xfce DE
[20:46] <__eagle__> k thanx bunch
[20:46] <Dr_Willis> I think Cairo dock even sets up a 'compiz + cairo' session.
[20:46] <Dr_Willis> __eagle__:  for old skool theres Lubuntu also.  :)
[20:46] <Daghdha> I found "You could add your command to the file /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default before the exit 0 line."
[20:46] <claire> rublind: firewall on the linuxbox. "iptables -L -nv"
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  what ubuntu release are you using?
[20:47] <Daghdha> 11.04
[20:47] <claire> rublind: do ping to Linux is OK? telnet 192.168.1.98 8080
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  some guides may be outdated with the changes to gnome.  there used to be gnome2 then  ubuntu moved to gnome3 that had differnt config files/layout/options, now 12.04 uses LightDM by default
[20:48] <rublind> claire: firewall is fine, I can get to it from the same box.
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> I think 11.04 uses gdm3
[20:48] <Daghdha> ihave 12.04
[20:48] <Daghdha> Dr_Willis: So i can use it?
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> Daghdha:  then you are using LightDM. so you would need to switch to gdm for those guides to be accurate
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> I dont know if lightdm has similer setting/config files
[20:49] <Daghdha> aw.
[20:49] <claire> rublind: wget http://192.168.1.98:8080  and if no response, then from the linux box: wget http://127.0.0.1:8080 (use curl insead of wget on OSX)
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> i have to wonder How the vm instance knows the host is shutting down...  seems like it would be a race to shut down befor the host does...
[20:50] <rublind> claire: I installed wget on OSX, and it shows "Connecting to 192.168.1.98:8080... failed: Connection refused."
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> bye al
[20:51] <escott> Daghdha, im with Dr_Willis this doesnt make sense. the proper thing is to modify your shutdown routine to tell the vm to suspend
[20:51] <rublind> claire: and from linux box, doing localhost and 192.168.1.98 both show 401 auth failed (which is correct)
[20:51] <escott> Daghdha, not to rely on something weird like the gui on the guest closing
[20:51] <claire> rublind: then firewall again...
[20:52] <Daghdha> escott: I am just googling and finding suggestions
[20:52] <Daghdha> Wheere can i find the shutdown routine?
[20:52] <escott> Daghdha, i would classify anything relying on gdm as a bad suggestion
[20:52] <Hetep-AFK> hola, am having problems with the update. Can a person assist por favor?
[20:52] <rublind> claire: http://my.di.af/5cd75c.png not from this end >.<
[20:52] <escott> Daghdha, /etc/init/shutdown.conf
[20:53] <claire> rublind: from both linux and OSX: sudo arp -an
[20:54] <claire> results for 192.168.1.98 shall match
[20:54] <rublind> claire: OSX => http://my.di.af/8d2532.png, Linux => http://my.di.af/15e783.png
[20:54] <claire> rublind: oh, they do as you can ssh... your python server might refise connection from not local ips
[20:55] <rublind> claire: hm. maybe, it's just weird 'cause it was working pre-reboot.
[20:55] <claire> rublind: if it is some kind of admin server, there might be a setting somewere to prevent connection from local computer
[20:55] <claire> rublind: good point
[20:56] <claire> rublind: I usually miss the 'commit/save changes' after an apply
[20:56] <Daghdha> escott: Can i add a command to that shutdown.conf?
[20:56] <escott> Daghdha, sure
[20:57] <Daghdha> But does this get called before vbox gets the kill signal?
[20:57] <escott> Daghdha, that may not cover all access to shutdown, you may need to do something else to cover other ways of calling shutdown. alternately make your VMs a service and then they will be started and stopped according to whatever routine you want
[20:58] <Daghdha> hmm
[20:58] <rublind> claire: yeah, I checked the config, and rebooted the service several times. it's not working. I'll harass the developers.
[20:58] <rublind> claire: thank you for the help though! :D
[20:59] <claire> rublind: ciso network card... whow!
[20:59] <escott> Daghdha, what method of shutdown are you trying to cover exactly?
[20:59] <Rodi> hi all
[20:59] <claire> rublind: I have to go to bed. good luck
[20:59] <Daghdha> reboots. e.g. most frequently when there are updates that require a reboot.
[21:00] <crond> shutdown
[21:00] <rublind> claire: thank you, have a good night :)
[21:00] <Daghdha> But opreferably all, so the service one sounds like something i could realize
[21:00] <kerni094> hi guys i have a little problem with my ubuntu (again) when i try to start ubuntu nothing happened. so i to start in the safe mode. the starting is blcoked with this error: Warning: Fake initctl called, doing nothing
[21:00] <escott> Daghdha, right but. you boot normally, login to gui, and start vbox manually? then go to logout->shutdown from the gui or something else
[21:01] <harrrismrubin> is targus a good company
[21:01] <Daghdha> escott: Yes, with the exception that my VMaachine starts automatically
[21:01] <kerni094> any ideas what that could be?
[21:02] <escott> Daghdha, so if you are starting it automatically (and its running headless and doesn't need the gui) then you could make it a service
[21:02] <escott> Daghdha, if it is starting automatically through gnome-session thats a bit different
[21:02] <Daghdha> It is not headless, it shows up on the desktop.
[21:02] <escott> Daghdha, ideally you could make it start headless and then attach to the gui as needed.
[21:03] <Daghdha> ok, so make it a service
[21:03] <escott> Daghdha, that has the added benefit that if X crashes your VM keeps running
[21:09] <kjzz12> Hi all! I have one of those terrible clickpads on my laptop that Ubuntu just added support for this release. Upon boot it works AWESOME. But if I close my laptop (or let it timeout) and sign back in from the lockscreen, the ability to click and drag disappears until I log out and in. Any suggestions?
[21:10] <Daghdha> escott : ok, apparently it was already a service. :/ But i did find a setting in the /etc/default/virtualbox that poweres down t he virtualbox for certain users on shutdown. I changed it to savestate. Fingers crossed :)
[21:13] <Defeatless> join #SOTS
[21:15] <zaitzev> hey guys, I'm having a weird issue with my ubuntu server; the eth connection dies/hangs, I don't know if it's hardware or software related either. I have no idea how to fix it, other than doing a hard reset on the server
[21:16] <zaitzev> I took a couple of photos of the screen.. http://i.imgur.com/oSAkj.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/peTgf.jpg
[21:16] <vampirnata> I've set up my router to forward all traffic on port 443 to my ubuntu box and then set sshd to listen to port 443. Any way I can secure this some more? I only need access to my ubuntu server from LAN and from a certain IP at work.
[21:18] <Iszak> When will it be safe to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[21:18] <zaitzev> right about now?
[21:18] <vampirnata> Do I just add sshd : ALL in hosts.deny and then sshd : 102.168.0.0/24 and sshd : <work ip address>?
[21:19] <vampirnata> in hosts.allow
[21:19] <Iszak> well, I kind of installed 11.10 on a server, so I need to ensure it's safe to upgrade...
[21:19] <zaitzev> I don't see why not
[21:19] <Iszak> zaitzev: well I heard it's not officially supported the migration until .1 when going from LTS to LTS.
[21:20] <zaitzev> okay. I'm no expert so don't take my word for it at all :P
[21:22] <cloudy> Hi - did an update that came in 2 days ago. Kernel now: 3.2.0-25-generic-pae #40-Ubuntu . Cannot resume after a suspend. Any idea how to debug that?
[21:27] <Indiana>  
[21:28] <GNS3Talk> Gents, I installed GNOME CONNECTION MANAGER and when I do the 'which' command, it doesn't show me the location of the program! The program was installed using the Ubuntu Software Centre! Could anybody help?
[21:30] <fishbait> anyone know how to tell pm-hibernate to wait 1/2 a second on resume?
[21:30] <fishbait> the man pages are no help
[21:31] <spendyala> where can I get the source for cd, ls cprograms in ubuntu
[21:31] <fabiobik> how to list every file with start letter of w and the 3rd letter w ?
[21:31] <ikonia> spendyala: it's  in the coreutils package
[21:32] <rymate1234> ok
[21:32] <rymate1234> small issue, I was wondering if anyone knew how to fix
[21:32] <rymate1234> My keyboard has media control buttons on it, and I was wondering how to get the spotify for linux client to workwith them
[21:33] <fishbait> how do i change the default sound device?
[21:33] <lupintheethird> Just wondering, are 3d capabilities supposed to be pre installed with ubuntu 12.04?
[21:34] <rymate1234> lupintheethird, they should do. what seems to be the issue? :)
[21:34] <lupintheethird> rymate1234, when i say alt tab, its just a list of icons not a 3d interface
[21:35] <rymate1234> is it a list of icons with a transparent background?
[21:35] <lupintheethird> rymate1234, yeah
[21:35] <rymate1234> then that's normal then
[21:36] <rymate1234> I'm trying to screenshot it but it won't let me :(
[21:36] <lupintheethird> rymate1234, is there a way to tell if my video card is fully enabled for 3d?
[21:37] <rymate1234> lupintheethird, open a terminal, type "glxgears" then press enter :P
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> lupintheethird: sudo lshw -C display    what chip are you using and what driver?
[21:37] <rymate1234> nvm it ain't installed by default
[21:37] <GNS3Talk> Gents, I installed GNOME CONNECTION MANAGER and when I do the 'which' command, it doesn't show me the location of the program! The program was installed using the Ubuntu Software Centre! Could anybody help?
[21:37] <rymate1234> use ActionParsnip's boring command :P
[21:37] <cloudy> Hi - did an update that came in 2 days ago. Kernel now: 3.2.0-25-generic-pae #40-Ubuntu . Cannot resume after a suspend. Any idea how to that can be debugged?
[21:38] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: 1.) make sure you know the correct command name 2.) the command must be in your $PATH for which to work
[21:38] <fishbait> would need_clock_sync mentioned in man pm-hibernate delay only pm-utils resume by 1/2 a second and not delay detection of drives?
[21:38] <cloudy> GNS3Talk, Ubuntu software center only shows gnome remote connection manager for me.
[21:39] <lupintheethird> I have a nvidia 310m and ubuntu automatically installed additional drivers
[21:39] <lupintheethird> lshw says my graphics card
[21:39] <joeko> GNS3Talk, Try going to synaptic and looking at the installed files list for the package
[21:39] <fabiobik> how to list files with starting letter w and the 3rd letter r
[21:39] <fabiobik> ive tryed ls w?r*
[21:40] <BlueEagle> fabiobik: note that ls is case sensitive
[21:40] <GNS3Talk> cloudy: Even if I true gnome-remote-connection or any with this combination, I can't get which to find it.
[21:40] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: 1.) make sure you know the correct command name 2.) the command must be in your $PATH for which to work
[21:40] <BlueEagle> fabiobik: ls K?u* works for me.
[21:40] <GNS3Talk> joeko: Good idea. I will check it out.
[21:40] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: It's not in the $PATH as far as I could see!
[21:40] <cloudy> GNS3Talk, Gnome remote connection manager would be grcm
[21:41] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: then how do you expect which to work
[21:41] <fishbait> i need to tell pm-utils to wait for other drives to search for hibernation file how do i do that?
[21:41] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: That's why I came here to ask :)
[21:41] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: you need to add the directory it's in to the $PATH variable for which to wkr
[21:41] <ikonia> work
[21:41] <cloudy> GNS3Talk, try which grcm
[21:42] <GNS3Talk> cloudy: It doesn't work.
[21:42] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: I'm actually interested in finding the full path to execute via a small script!
[21:42] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: right so your question is "where is the binary" not "I can't get it to work with which"
[21:42] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: I don't care if which can display it or not :)
[21:43] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: Yes!
[21:43] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: do you know the correct name for the binary ?
[21:43] <cloudy> GNS3Talk, try dpkg -l | grep connection
[21:44] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: It came up in the first result:
[21:44] <GNS3Talk> ii  gnome-connection-manager               1.0.0                                   Un manejador de conexiones ssh para gnome
[21:45] <cloudy> GNS3Talk, gnome-connection-manager should be your binary
[21:46] <GNS3Talk> Okay excellent! Thank you cloudy, joeko and ikonia :)
[21:48] <cloudy> GNS3Talk, :)
[21:48] <cloudy> Hi - did an update that came in 2 days ago. Kernel now: 3.2.0-25-generic-pae #40-Ubuntu . Cannot resume after a suspend. Any idea how that can be debugged?
[21:48] <Etale> \msg nickserv identify cohomology
[21:49] <fira> not sure if epic fail
[21:49] <fira> or trolling
[21:49] <Etale> Epic fail.
[21:49] <Etale> How do I change password?
[21:49] <fira> quick, /NS SET PASSWORD [something]
[21:50] <drpoo> I am having problems with apt. I am getting the following message as output of apt-get check : http://pastebin.com/2qxFr7kR
[21:50] <Etale> K!
[21:51] <zaitzev> drpoo: Do you see what it says on lines 4 and 15?
[21:51] <Etale> I've never really understood why we even have passwords. What does our IRC account even have that's worth hacking in to?
[21:52] <drpoo> zaitzev, I tried it but I get this as output: http://pastebin.com/pUSZGQrj
[21:52] <gentwo> hi everyone.  understanding this is a biased channel, would you suggest i use ubuntu server or another linux distribution on a Rackspace VPS?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> cloudy: are there bugs reported?
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> gentwo: sure why not, 12.04 server is supported for 5 years
[21:53] <cloudy> ActionParsnip, sorry, do you mean whether I reported the bug already?
[21:55] <dalek_> How do I block internet on my computer and set password access?
[21:55] <drpoo> ActionParsnip, I been having trouble with apt-get. My output of apt-get check is:http://pastebin.com/2qxFr7kR . I tried apt-get -f install but I get this as output: http://pastebin.com/pUSZGQrj . Any suggestions?
[21:55] <nailora> i have a ubuntu computer that was updated to precise recently. how can i find out the exact/estimate date of upgrade?
[21:56] <smerdykov> you might be able to find that in the apt-get log/
[21:57] <dalek_> Is there any way to block access to internet in ubuntu?
[21:57] <smerdykov> do you still need local network access/
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> cloudy: both
[21:58] <harushimo> does anyone use juju at all?
[21:58] <drpoo> I been having trouble with apt-get. My output of apt-get check is:http://pastebin.com/2qxFr7kR . I tried apt-get -f install but I get this as output: http://pastebin.com/pUSZGQrj . Any suggestions?
[21:58] <harrrismrubin> ActionParsnip, will a windows 7 only mouse work in ubuntu
[21:58] <cloudy> ActionParsnip, I haven't reported a bug yet
[21:59] <smerdykov> you could use aptitude, I've always had better luck with that
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> drpoo: try http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046306/
[21:59] <dalek_> I need to block access to internet and set password only access.. How do I do this?
[22:00] <Etale> Hi people! I've got a general linux question. I've used a patch for compiz, which included compiling it from source. Among other things, I had to "sudo apt-get build-dep compiz". This installed maybe 230M of random libraries. I imagine that once I've compiled the thing from source, I no longer need these libraries. How do I get rid of them?
[22:00] <Etale> P.S. I've been following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1938942
[22:01] <harrrismrubin> can you use a windows 7 mouse only in ubuntu
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: sure, it will use the generic driver, mice are simple creatures
[22:01] <harrrismrubin> can you look at this and tell me if it will work ActionParsnip
[22:01] <harrrismrubin> http://www.amazon.com/Targus-Wi-Fi-Laser-Mouse-AMW58US/dp/B005MR598O/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
[22:02] <dalek_> I need to block access to internet and set password only access.. How do I do this?
[22:02] <drpoo> ActionParsnip, I got errors at several steps
[22:02] <harrrismrubin> ActionParsnip,  it says it does not work in vista or xp
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: can't imagine any issue personally
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> harrrismrubin  looks very new technology, why not try it out and report in the channel, for future reference
[22:03] <smerdykov> dalek, can you just disable the network device?
[22:03] <cloudy> I read somewhere that apt-get and aptitude should not we ran interchangably. So if you started using one, you should stick with it.
[22:03] <harrrismrubin> so it is safe  to buy it
[22:03] <harrrismrubin> i dont want to waste my money
[22:03] <smerdykov> I believe aptitude is just a front-end to apt-get, so that would be like saying to only use aptitude or synaptic, they all do the same thing
[22:03] <harrrismrubin> do you thibnk it will work
[22:04] <harrrismrubin> is targus a good company ActionParsnip
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> harrrismrubin  if you want the very newest technology, you are in fact a pioneer
[22:04] <nailora> harrrismrubin: why would you want to buy that mouse? if you want one that works no matter what?
[22:04] <drpoo> ActionParsnip, when running LANG=C;sudo apt-get --purge autoremove -f  I got this outputhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1046314/
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> harrrismrubin: I guess
[22:04] <nailora> if you want one that works no    ▒ │AJ_Z0           │
[22:04] <nailora> sorry for the mess
[22:05] <harrrismrubin> my mouse doesnt work nailora
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> drpoo: I suggest you remove all the 32bit packages you have installed
[22:05] <harrrismrubin> it does not work anymore it is 10 years old
[22:06] <nailora> if you want one that works no matter what, pick another one with better rating and proven technology. that one will work with like 95% certainty
[22:06] <drpoo> ActionParsnip, How can I mark *ALL* 32bit packages for removal?
[22:06] <drpoo> ActionParsnip, I cant remove them if apt-get is not working... Can I ?
[22:07] <harrrismrubin> does anyone know the company it starts with an r and it makes all tech stuff
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> drpoo: dpkg -l | grep i386 | awk {'print $2'}        should display them
[22:07] <nailora> a "traditional mouse" with some kind of usb adapter will wotk 100%
[22:08] <harrrismrubin> anyone know it they used to sell to bestbuy
[22:09] <dalek_> I need to block access to internet and set password only access.. How do I do this?
[22:09] <cloudy> Note that it is bad practice to use aptitude and apt-get interchangeably, as they record changes made by a user separately.
[22:09] <cloudy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_%28software%29
[22:12] <debugapparmor> does someone can use chromium with apparmor at the moment?
[22:13] <alving> can someone help me upgrade wine?
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> alving  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:14] <debugapparmor> tried wine ppa?
[22:14] <alving> yes, been there done that.
[22:14] <Jonii_> Does terminal have any keyboard shortcut to produce page up and page down?
[22:15] <alving> i had ver 1.4 installed and was playing WoW
[22:15] <Jonii_> My keyboard does not have those
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> Jonii_  alt - page up
[22:15] <linus> Im trying to use suexec to run a cgi script as a user other than www-data. Do I still need to specify the cgi directory in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default?
[22:15] <alving> went to install Dialbo3 and it screwed everything up
[22:15] <debugapparmor> alving: with the ppa you get wine 1.5
[22:16] <Jonii_> MonkeyDust: i don't have page up or page down keys, which is why I'm asking for other methods of producing these keys, when in terminal
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> but a ppa is not supported here
[22:16] <debugapparmor> oh
[22:16] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:16] <alving> i have the ppa in the software sources
[22:16] <Jonii_> I only need page up/page down when using irssi, so any method that works for irssi is good enough
[22:16] <alving> says im up to date at 1.2.3
[22:16] <Jonii_> i don't need that anywhere else
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> Jonii_  you're not a regular pc?
[22:17] <harushimo> anyone here use juju
[22:17] <harushimo> ?
[22:17] <nagn> is anyone here
[22:17] <Jonii_> MonkeyDust: I sorta am. I'm using a laptop where pg up/dwn is routed to be fn + up/dwn, these keys are on totally different sides of keyboard, so it's borderline unusable
[22:18] <debugapparmor> can someone help me with apparmor?
[22:18] <Jonii_> It both requires you to break touch typing position and use both hands
[22:19] <Gary_inNYC> i have a standalone exe I want to run that requires flash plugin to work properly.  how do i get flash plugin running in wine?
[22:19] <Jonii_> Which ordinarily would not matter, since you almost never need those keys, but unfortunately I don't want to give up irssi, so I need to have those keys available
[22:20] <alving> ive gone to winehq website and d/l sources files for wine1.5, done the install as per the readme file and still doesnt even register that its been installed
[22:20] <dalek_> I need to block access to internet and set password only access.. How do I do this?
[22:21] <debugapparmor> alving: which distro you have?
[22:21] <alving> ubuntu 10.10 studio
[22:21] <deepa> Having the misfortune of not being able to choose and getting paid for the time it takes I'm back :p
[22:22] <deepa> The Ubuntu windows installed thingymajic, if I choose C:\ will it install there or put the installation files there and install elsewhere?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> alving: maverick is EOL
[22:22] <debugapparmor> alving: wine in terminal works?
[22:22] <alving> no sorry "lucid"
[22:22] <alving> even worse
[22:22] <alving> BRB
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> alving: lucid is still supported
[22:25] <debugapparmor> what is the purpose of the flood bots?
[22:25] <deepa> antispam most likely
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> debugapparmor: if you paste a tonne of lines, they stop
[22:25] <debugapparmor> thanks
[22:25] <m__> hi
[22:26] <m__> did anyone knows how i get the sound running under ubuntu 12.04
[22:26] <m__> thoose tipps ike aslamixer etc wont work for me
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> m__: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> !sound| m__ start here
[22:28] <erik32526> hi all im having video driver issue
[22:28] <erik32526> on nvidia pci e card
[22:29] <m__> ActionParsnip: shall i uplaod te information ?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> m__: yes please, a URL will be made. What is the URL
[22:29] <m__> erik32526: did u already tried to install bumblebee
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> m__: might be single GPU...
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> erik32526: what is the issue?
[22:30] <erik32526> has anyone had issues with nvidi video cards
[22:30] <m__> ActionParsnip:  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=eb5c3a4063b5ff9339cedc13b069dc2d297a61ec
[22:30] <erik32526> what is bubbee
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> erik32526: I buy nvidia GPU for the reason that I have zero issues
[22:31] <m__> erik32526: what klind of problem to u havbe, and are u using an nvida optimus
[22:31] <erik32526> on youtube the video looks grey
[22:31] <AJ_Z0> erik32526: Please describe your actual problem and provide the relevant technical details including card, diver and version used
[22:32] <AJ_Z0> erik32526: If you're using Flash, the right click the video and turn off hardware acceleration
[22:32] <erik32526> how do i found out what card i have in terminal
[22:32] <AJ_Z0> This issue is easily found with a simple web search
[22:33] <erik32526> in terminal what do i type
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> m__: try:  echo "options snd-hda-intel model=acer" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[22:33] <erik32526> to tell me what card i have
[22:33] <Daghdha> Hi.
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> m__: reboot to test
[22:33] <m__> first reboot or first test?
[22:34] <JasonDC> anyone here know their 'sed'?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> erik32526: can you give the output of:   sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a     use http://pastie.org
[22:34] <Daghdha> My vboxy was moaning about vboxdrv. This file just isn't there. Aftere a BARRAGE of chnges and reboots it no longer complains on reboots (Thank God) but i still don't have the /etc/init.d/vboxdrv
[22:34] <harushimo> what about sed? I have some basic knowledge
[22:34] <Daghdha> What is it and how do i g et it? (Do i need it?)
[22:35] <Daghdha> The internet is littered with issues regarding this vboxdrv
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: i'd ask in #vbox too
[22:36] <JasonDC> this is the command and output, i was wondering if you could take a look: fpaste.org/0FKo
[22:36] <KornKage2> hi
[22:36] <KornKage2> how do i uninstall a driver?
[22:36] <KornKage2> and its not nvidia
[22:36] <Jordan_U> KornKage2: What driver and how did you install it?
[22:37] <KornKage2> its a usb pen for dvb-t(rtlsdr)
[22:37] <KornKage2> i think the driver was installed when i installed gnuradio from the script, or it installed directly, i dont recall
[22:38] <erik32526> i have geforce 310
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> erik32526: the command will tell us a LOT more than that, can you give the output in a pastebin please
[22:39] <debugapparmor> can someone help get rid of this: apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" parent=1 profile="/usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser//chromium_browser_sandbox" name="/proc/22437/status" pid=22437 comm="chromium-browse" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
[22:40] <erik32526> http://pastie.org/4105351
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> erik32526: can you please run ALL of the command I gave
[22:41] <debugapparmor> command to list channels?
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> !alis
[22:41] <debugapparmor> !alis
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> debugapparmor: read the test ubottu gave...
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> *text
[22:42] <Laban> Hi
[22:42] <Laban> I just re-installed 12.04 and thought I'd setup internet sharing from the GUI this time.
[22:43] <Laban> I think it's working, but how do I change the internal IP-range?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Laban: you can set IP using network manager
[22:44] <Laban> I go into "Edit Wired connection 1" (which is the LAN NIC, WAN is w/c 2)
[22:45] <Laban> And if I select Method: Shared to other computers, all others are grayed out.
[22:45] <erik32526> i did pastbin
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> erik32526: what is the URL please?
[22:46] <erik32526> http://pastie.org/4105383
[22:46] <erik32526> http://pastie.org/4105383
[22:47] <erik32526> brb
[22:51] <Sparky712> right.. I started install attempts thursday, but I think it might be time to give up. I have tried multiple times to install ubunto, and also mint, once Ubuntu proved so difficult. both prove impossible for me to install, with them both freezing with the same problems. Later, I will be launching one more attempt, then I will have to resign from this until I have a new PC.. im not willing to
[22:51] <Sparky712> wipe this harddrive, until I have finished college...
[22:52] <Sparky712> so, what could cause neither Wubi, or USB installs to work when trying to install, and for repetetive freezes when it is attempted.
[22:55] <alving> hi all
[22:56] <erik32526> i guess he left
[22:56] <Sparky712> guess who left?
[22:57] <erik32526> hello
[22:58] <Sparky712> hello
[22:58] <Sparky712> you have a question?
[22:58] <Sparky712> I wont be able to help, but im sure there is someone on who can.
[22:58] <erik32526> i used paste bin for my video issue
[22:58] <sandyeggoboy> what is whoopie
[22:58] <sandyeggoboy> whoopsie?
[23:00] <belli> hi all
[23:00] <Sparky712> sandy, surely a general definition question like that would be better suited to a search engine?
[23:00] <belli> need help.please
[23:01] <belli> cannot found 4.xxx version unetbootin.deb
[23:01] <Guest42217> wtf?
[23:02] <Sparky712> hmm?
[23:02] <belli> someone have this version?
[23:09] <michael_> hello
[23:09] <michael_> I have a question with Ubuntu 12.04 and was wondering if anyone can help?
[23:10] <Flavaln> Hi, I've been trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 with an encrypted partition. I've tried the alt install disk, with default options and with manual partitioning. I've tried it with and without internet, on 2 HDDs on 2 computers. It always fails after installing the base system.
[23:10] <Flavaln> Is this a known issue? I've tried to work around it using the Desktop install but I haven't quite gotten that to work with encrypted partition either.
[23:11] <Flavaln> I also tried from USB stick (created with 2 separate programs) and from CD.
[23:11] <Flavaln> Also tried 11.10, same problem
[23:20] <enroxorz_> Hello Everybody! I have a support question regardingg humble bundle and software center. Is this the place to ask?
[23:23] <yeats> Flavaln: you can type Alt-F4 in the alternate installer and see what the log messages are
[23:24] <Flavaln> That sounds like a prank but I'll try it
[23:24] <yeats> Flavaln: not a prank
[23:24] <HelloWorld321> Flavaln: that's because you're used to Windows gaming
[23:25] <HelloWorld321> Is there a problem with either nVidia or ATI under Ubuntu serious enough to affect a purchase decision?
[23:25] <yeats> Flavaln: tty4 in the debian installer shows log messages (alt installer is the debian installer re-tooled for ubuntu)
[23:25] <Flavaln> I'll try that, it'll probably take 15 minutes to get there
[23:28] <Flavaln> So while I'm doing that, is this a known issue?
[23:31] <HelloWorld321> I would assume that PCI x16 and PCI x16 2.0 are completely different.  Is that true?
[23:31] <HelloWorld321> You can't use If my http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/R/1009440/1009440sp2.shtml mobo has a space for One PCI Express ×16 (graphics interface), then obviously I can't use a PCI x16 2.0 in it, like http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3913#sp, can I?
[23:32] <yeats> Flavaln: without more details about what's actually going wrong, there's not a way to tell if it's an known issue or not...
[23:32] <Flavaln> HelloWorld, in general they should be compatible at the lower speed.
[23:33] <silverghost> wtf is going on ubuntu signed a deal with microsoft :O
[23:33] <Flavaln> yeats, okay I'll get the exact errors
[23:33] <silverghost> what is this azure thing going on?
[23:33] <silverghost> canonical signed a deal with microsoft :O
[23:34] <yeats> !ot | silverghost
[23:34] <silverghost> this is serious topic
[23:34] <innociv> Someone is ddos'ing my site and making it use up 100% cpu.  How do I figure out what's using all the cpu when I can't open htop during the attacks?
[23:34] <Cottus> silverghost, please send likn
[23:34] <silverghost> canonical = novell same
[23:35] <HelloWorld321> Thanks, Flavaln.  The older PCI-E x16 is getting hard to find.
[23:35] <marc> can anyone help with a a question?
[23:35] <Flavaln> man this Ubuntu startup disk creater is a real piece of garbage
[23:36] <silverghost> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/canonical-partners-with-microsoft-to-support-ubuntu-on-azure/
[23:36] <Cottus> marc, what is ti?
[23:36] <silverghost> canonical is following novell :O
[23:36] <silverghost> officially i am quitting ubuntu
[23:37] <xablor> Hey all.
[23:37] <marc> Why my system after updating Ubuntu from version 10.04 to version 10.10 is wary slow now?
[23:37] <xablor> How do I confirm that I've found a bug in an STL class?
[23:37] <xablor> It's not behaving as expected, but I've been wrong before.
[23:37] <silverghost> bye bye good community i would urge most of u to ditch ubuntu and canonical
[23:37] <yeats> FloodBot1: what's not working?
[23:37] <silverghost> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/canonical-partners-with-microsoft-to-support-ubuntu-on-azure/
[23:37] <SS01> marc: not sure, but 10.10 is no longer supported. Try 12.04.
[23:38] <silverghost> Canonical officially support Microsoft’s cloud offering,
[23:38] <silverghost> :O
[23:38] <yeats> silverghost: please move on
[23:38] <silverghost> bye cheers thanks for everything
[23:38] <Ariel_Calzada>  hi, i have hspmodem configurated i want to know if possible to use this modem as telephone in my linux box?
[23:38] <Cottus> bye
[23:39] <marc> I did already but my system seams wary slow. The 10.04 was working ok on my hold DELL latitude laptop.
[23:40] <SS01> marc: does your system meet the minimum requirements?
[23:41] <marc> I am not sure about minimum requirement. Where can I check?
[23:42] <SS01> marc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/ReleaseNotes#System_Requirements
[23:42] <Flavaln> silverghost, stop whining. They paid $100 to get a signed key to more easily install on locked down systems. Not the biggest deal.
[23:42] <yeats> marc: what model processor?  how much RAM?
[23:43] <Flavaln> I'm sure they've paid more than that for certs before.
[23:43] <marc> Dell Latitude D600, CPU intel pentium 1.6, 768 ram.
[23:45] <silverghost> I admire Microsoft for their war-strategy. They grabbed Novell/SUSE which could have been a billion dollar company -- Killed it.
[23:45] <silverghost> Then they went after Nokia which as a breeding ground of some leading open source technologies -- they are killing it.
[23:46] <silverghost> Now they have partnered with Canonical for cloud. I always wondered how Microsoft will control Canonical. They signed a deal to make Canonical their cloud partner for Azure.
[23:46] <K350>  
[23:46] <silverghost> No wonder I was hearing so many words of praise for Microsoft for the last 2-3 months. When I asked about HUD Mark said even Microsoft is excited about it. Recently at IRC he praised Microsoft for Windows 8 and bashed Red Hat and now...full 'recommendation' of Azure.
[23:47] <marc> Thanks chaps. Have good night.
[23:47] <Flavaln> enough. I'm just going to ignore you now
[23:47] <silverghost> who knows about those patents deal nehind locked doors
[23:48] <Relondo> How do I run an executable? (Not a .exe file; I'm not THAT new).
[23:48] <Flavaln> from shell?
[23:48] <silverghost> ditch canonical novell and microsoft now use lienecks mint
[23:49] <silverghost> ubuntu is not user friendly distro
[23:49] <Cottus> :D
[23:49] <Flavaln> Relondo, cd DIR   ./binary
[23:50] <node> h
[23:51] <boldfilter> Thank you for making Google Classic better. Thank you, thank you, thank you
[23:51] <Farlin> Hello. Does anyone know why Ubuntu 12 LST reboots after the system is idle for a period of time? I have already disabled all the power management/hibernation stuff.
[23:51] <boldfilter> Gnome Classic
[23:52] <boldfilter> You can call me old school. Well, I guess you can
[23:52] <Relondo> Flavaln: Thanks.
[23:53] <Flavaln> Relondo, yeah . isn't in the default path for security reasons
[23:53] <Relondo> Flavaln: Didn't work :/
[23:54] <Relondo> Flavaln: I put "cd /home/[my user]/Games/Foldit ./foldit
[23:54] <Flavaln> well I presume that foldit doesn't have the execute permission bit set
[23:54] <Flavaln> check out chmod
[23:55] <Azag> hi
[23:55] <silverghost> flavaln try mageia it is a pretty cool distro :)
[23:55] <Relondo> Flavaln: In the properties, it says it has permission to be run as an executable.
[23:55] <shankara> Hello, dear friends.
[23:55] <silverghost> hi
[23:56] <silverghost> hi shankara :)
[23:56] <Azag> installing gnome-shell-extensions
[23:56] <shankara> Hi, silverghost
[23:56] <Azag> I broke my gnome-shell
[23:56] <silverghost> haha
[23:56] <silverghost> gnome shell is buggy
[23:56] <Azag> now when I enter to it I can't see the windows "border" and panel
[23:56] <shankara> I am new to here and don't know how to ask questions.
[23:56] <silverghost> hey guys did u know gnome 3.5 is going to have an app store
[23:56] <OerHeks> silverghost, stop that please.
[23:57] <Azag> any solution??
[23:57] <silverghost> ask ur question shankara
[23:57] <shankara> thanks, silverghost
[23:57] <Flavaln> linux has had "app stores" since I was young.
[23:57] <Relondo> Azag: Maybe this can help you: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/972231
[23:58] <silverghost> gnome 3.5 will have poweroff button by default wow LOL
[23:58] <shankara> I am using ubuntu 10.04 with canon 2900 laser shot. it is working fine, but I would like to upgrade to 12.04, but, printer is not working in 12.04
[23:58] <shankara> I tried it with live USB session
[23:59] <yeats> shankara: what didn't work?
[23:59] <shankara> printer. yeats.
[23:59] <shankara> canon 2900B
[23:59] <yeats> shankara: I understand that... did you get any error messages, I mean
[23:59] <shankara> ok.