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Riddellwow image size today is 858M, I know that's below our new limit but how the heck has it got so big so quick08:57
jussiRiddell: ouch. btw, are we now going to ship LO or calligra? 09:05
Riddellmm that didn't come up during the spec review09:06
Riddellbut "include Calligra in Alpha images, decide on inclusion before beta" is still what I'd like09:06
jussiYeah, id be interested in that09:10
jussiI think the biggest sticking point for most people is the lack of ability to create MS office format docs09:13
Riddellnot spreading that proprietary format is an advantage for me!  </idealist>09:13
jussiI guess thats why I said "most people" ;)09:14
jussibtw, where is our latest calligra version housed? 09:14
starbuckRiddell: when you right click in dolphin to create a document, what is the default filetype for word, spreadsheet and presentation in kubuntu 12.04?09:15
starbuckfor the file that gets created?09:15
jussistarbuck: they seem to be LO odp/t etc09:16
Riddelldoes anyone use the Create New in file managers?09:26
Riddellwhee today's image working well and universal09:28
inetproRiddell: if I may chime in, I often use it to create a new folder and create new txt document09:29
inetprobut the rest of them I don't use often09:29
Riddellfair enough09:30
starbuckRiddell: isnt it kpr for koffice presentation in 12.04?09:42
starbucki wonder, i think its not odf?09:42
starbuckor odp?09:42
starbucki think its old koffice based...09:43
Riddellstarbuck: koffice doesn't exist in 12.04, only calligra does which uses odp09:45
starbuckoh, then i wonder if I right click why does it offer me kpr extension for presentation?09:47
starbuckdid i install some package that influences it?09:47
RiddellI didn't think even koffice used kpr any more09:48
Riddelllet me look09:48
Riddellstarbuck: calligrastage does open kpr documents but it doesn't save them and dolphin has a Create New Presentation option which gives me a .odp OpenDocument file09:50
starbuckoh09:53
Riddellkpr is a pretty old format, koffice moved to opendocument a while ago09:53
starbuckyes,09:56
starbuckso any settings where i can decide on create new documents type and endings?09:56
Riddellthat's a .desktop file somewhere and a template /me looks09:59
starbuckRiddell: thanks.10:01
debfxRiddell: re image size, kde-wallpapers is quite large: http://felix.fobos.de/kubuntu/kubuntu-quantal-cd-amd64-diff.htm10:10
Riddellstarbuck: /usr/share/templates/ is the magic directory they are in10:17
Riddelle.g. /usr/share/templates/Presentation.desktop10:18
Riddellwhich points to /usr/share/templates/.source/Presentation.odp as template10:18
starbuckRiddell: great, that helps :)10:21
BluesKajHey all10:35
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shadeslayerRiddell: not anymore :)12:48
Riddellshadeslayer: what what?12:50
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shadeslayerRiddell: ec212:51
Riddellaah, slow conversation this one12:57
shadeslayer:P13:00
shadeslayerRiddell: Could you possibly test calligra ? And maybe upload kile?13:01
Riddellshadeslayer: hmm spose so13:01
shadeslayerhttps://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental < from here13:01
Riddellwhere are they?13:01
Riddellok13:01
shadeslayercalligra packaging can also be found in bzr13:02
Riddellmm, this calligrawords is opening any proprietary format file I throw at it well13:06
ScottKOpens, but can you create a new one?13:06
apacheloggergood morning13:06
shadeslayer^_^13:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: ahoy13:07
RiddellScottK: goodness no, whyever would I want to spread evil formats like that?13:08
ScottKBecause there's not a lot of point is sending someone a file they can't open.13:09
apacheloggerbefore we talk about offices13:09
apacheloggercan we talk about browsers?13:09
* apachelogger asked for testing on potential rekonq update on ML ... 2 people replied, one of them with any sort of feedback13:10
apacheloggerlogical deduction is that almost one in the team uses rekonq on a regularly basis13:10
* ScottK doesn't.13:10
apacheloggerwhat with doog food and stuff that seems slightly odd13:10
Riddellapachelogger: you asked for 0.9.2 which is already in quantal?13:11
apacheloggeryeah13:11
apacheloggerexcept our users are on precise, are they not?13:12
ScottKI have been using Calligra Words a bit lately and I fine it generally nice, but the MS Office thing is still a killer, IMO.13:12
apacheloggerAAMOF I am on precise13:12
ScottKI gotta run (be offline all day), so have fun.13:12
Riddellapachelogger: on -devel many will be on quantal I guess13:12
Riddelland with ubuntu's stable each day policy I'd like to move upstream devs and testers to the development release13:13
apacheloggereven so, they would be able to talk about rekonq 0.9.2's quality I'd think13:13
jussibtw, where is our latest calligra version for precise housed? 13:13
shadeslayeruhh13:13
shadeslayerjussi: I'll work on that13:13
shadeslayernow that my visa is all sorted out13:13
dantti_laptoprbelem: ping13:14
Riddellshadeslayer: visa for akademy?13:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: do you want me to work exclusively on pgst?13:14
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah13:14
Riddellwhee13:14
shadeslayerThey were so awesome, they didn't even charge me for it13:14
apacheloggershadeslayer: I thought you grew up to be >minion ^^13:15
shadeslayerso free visa13:15
jussishadeslayer: +++13:15
shadeslayerapachelogger: I didn't ask you to mentor me, I just asked if it's specifically pgst that needs fixing13:15
* jussi hugs shadeslayer13:16
apacheloggeryou could also have a look at phonon/general bugs13:16
apacheloggerpvlc is the working13:16
* shadeslayer hugs jussi back13:16
shadeslayerhmm13:16
apacheloggerhttp://goo.gl/bbkva13:17
apacheloggershadeslayer: oh, actually, if you want something kdeish you can also look at the phonon crap in kde-multimedia13:17
apacheloggerkcm/kded/platformplugin/streamer13:18
apacheloggerOHOHOH13:18
apacheloggeractually13:18
apacheloggershadeslayer: you might want to look at KIO streaming13:18
shadeslayer#kde-multimedia would a better place for this :P13:18
apachelogger*shrug*13:18
apacheloggercwickert says kubuntu doesn't do anything upstream13:19
jussiYou know in response to the calligra export thing, we should just annoy people from all the lovely stakeholders, LO, Canonical, Calligra and everyone else we can find to sponsor a single converter for MS Office formats, that is maintained by one group, and has an API that everyone can hook into and redistribute with their application...13:20
jussiapachelogger: lol13:20
RiddellMS Office can jjjjjjjjjjjj13:24
jussiheh13:24
jussianyways, off home now13:24
jussilaters13:24
RiddellMS Office can open ODF13:26
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apacheloggerRiddell, jussi, ScottK: more interestingly. ... last I checked a lot of the format support development was actually founded by nokia... :S13:30
apacheloggeror was it funded13:30
* apachelogger needs coffee13:30
shadeslayeriirc didn't MS promise ODF support ?13:31
shadeslayerin the next version of Office13:31
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Riddellshadeslayer: yes13:32
Riddellin no other industry would it be acceptable for people to not use the standard13:32
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shadeslayerright, so what's the problem with sending odf documents, I mean, if someone does recieve a ODF document and it's not supported, they could *easily* upload it to GDocs and convert it to doc13:35
shadeslayeralthough, this might be a problem in commercial situations13:35
shadeslayerRiddell: does calligra work ok?13:35
Riddellshadeslayer: it works great, uploaded13:36
Riddellshadeslayer: fancy changing the seeds to calligra for the experiment?13:37
shadeslayerI'll do it tonight :)13:38
Riddellgreat13:38
Riddellshadeslayer: what needs doing with kile?13:38
shadeslayeruploading, you already tested it13:38
shadeslayeras did yofel I think13:38
Riddellshadeslayer: you're in the right group to be able to upload?13:39
shadeslayerfor kile? no13:39
shadeslayerassuming kile isn't in the kubuntu package sert13:39
Riddellshadeslayer: I think it can be if you just add it to the supported seed13:40
Riddelluploaded thanks13:40
shadeslayer<313:40
shadeslayerI need to look into this supported/unsupported seed stuff13:40
Riddellwe all do13:40
Riddellbut supported is just another seed file next to desktop et al13:41
Riddellwhich I think will put packages into kubuntu-dev so elite people like you can upload them13:41
Riddellpreviously it pulled them into main but shouldn't do that now13:41
ScottKshadeslayer: I don't get to tell my customers "Just upload it to GDocs and convert it."13:41
shadeslayerScottK: right13:42
ScottKAlso some people have privacy concerns about uploading their documents to cloud services.13:42
shadeslayerScottK: that's why I added that it might not work in commercial setups13:42
ScottKIt would also violate the principal of least surprise for non-technical users.13:42
ScottKBut I have to go.13:43
shadeslayercya13:46
apacheloggerScottK: do you plan on rolling out oneiric to customers?13:50
apacheloggerbecause if not, I am not opposed to the idea of giving calligra a one-release trial, particularly after LTS13:50
apacheloggerif upstream is ok with that13:50
apacheloggerif it starts a shitstorm we can always go "use 12.04"13:51
Riddelloneiric?  surely quantal?13:52
apacheloggerah, yes ^^13:56
* apachelogger has not got enough sleep13:56
apacheloggerthe price one has to pay for a bug free phonon vlc :(13:57
Riddellit's worth it13:57
Riddellwhat do we want in our language packs? (i.e. meta packages)13:57
Riddellso far I have Depends: ${misc:Depends}, language-pack-aaaUBUNTULANGCODEbbb, kde-l10n-aaaUBUNTULANGCODEbbb13:58
Riddelland I'm going to work out how to put in calligra where it exists13:58
Riddellanything else?13:58
apacheloggerk3b-i18n? amarok-i18n?13:58
Riddellis there a separate amarok-i18n?13:59
RiddellI think it's all in amarok-common14:00
shadeslayerRiddell: btw there are calligra lang packs as well14:01
shadeslayerwhat do we do about those14:01
debfxRiddell: pulling in the right language support packages is handled by muon/language-selector and the seeds14:01
Riddellshadeslayer: package them up same as currently14:01
Riddellshadeslayer: so make a big calligra-l10n package14:02
shadeslayermmm ... 14:02
Riddelldebfx: language-selector is going to go away, what does muon do?14:02
shadeslayerthat's going to be fun14:02
Riddellthe seeds bring in language-pack-kde-xx which is going to go away14:03
Riddelland I'm planning on replacing launchpad made language-pack-kde-xx with meta package language-pack-kde-xx14:03
debfxmuon is calling language-selector. I think only the frontend of l-s is going away.14:05
debfxare you absolutely sure that we don't want lp translations for some packages?14:06
debfxand do we have no patches in kde sc that introduce user-visible strings?14:07
Riddelllp translations just cause problems in my experience14:08
Riddellthe only user-visible string I can think of is one saying "translations edited in launchpad"14:08
debfxfor example synaptiks has nearly no translations upstream. while I'd say translations should be done upstream when possible it's clearly not working well in this case.14:09
Riddellsynaptiks has just been moved to universe along with everything else14:10
debfxthat doesn't matter, universe packages are translated if you set a control field14:11
debfxkde-workspace has: +            m_installDefaultWallpaperButton->setText(i18nc("@action:button", "Install Default Wallpapers..."));14:12
Riddellupstream have always said they'd welcome disto strings like that translated upstream (havn't you tsdgeos?)14:13
debfxwhich is a bit weird since default wallpapers should be installed already ;)14:13
tsdgeosRiddell: ECANTPARSESENTECE14:14
tsdgeosRiddell: what do you mean14:14
tsdgeos?14:14
Riddelldebfx: the default selection was split out to save cd space, only the default default one was included14:15
Riddelltsdgeos: if we don't use launchpad for translations can we put strings like "Install Default Wallpapers..." upstream for translation?14:15
tsdgeosRiddell: yes, if you define kde svn to be your upstream translation location we can do that14:15
tsdgeoswe do that for the commit digest web and stuff14:16
tsdgeosthough it has to be seen how you upload the .po files14:16
tsdgeosfor commit digest et all it's manual update14:16
tsdgeossince we "don't trust" running MEssages.sh contained in "foreign" repos14:17
tsdgeosbut it can be wokred out14:17
tsdgeosif you want14:17
rbelemdantti_laptop, pong14:24
dantti_laptoprbelem: dfaure already told me where smb kio lies :P14:25
rbelemdantti_laptop, :-)14:26
dantti_laptoprbelem: I'm going to change it to also display the printer share so you can add it directly from the dolphin page :)14:26
rbelemdantti_laptop, nice :-)14:27
dantti_laptoprbelem: it will be *much* easier that using libsmbclient directly  :P14:27
dantti_laptopand more integrated too14:27
rbelemdantti_laptop, which kio r u talking about?14:28
dantti_laptoprbelem: the browse one not the your share14:29
rbelemdantti_laptop, ah! ok14:29
rbelemdantti_laptop, i think afiestas_ was working on that14:29
rbelemdantti_laptop, there are two kio for browsing14:30
rbelemdantti_laptop, one of them is more maintained and complete14:30
rbelemdantti_laptop, but i dont remember which of them is the one14:31
dantti_laptopoh14:32
dantti_laptopok I'll poke him thanks for the head up14:33
rbelem:-)14:33
Riddelljussi: why use precise instead of quantal?14:55
Riddellsay if you want the latest and greatest calligra14:55
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yofelRiddell, shadeslayer: from the things that I added to supported, perlkde and kile were skipped in the packageset it seems - needs a manual override?15:01
yofelshadeslayer: digikam is in though, so feel free to upload that15:02
shadeslayerwon't upload digikam today, needs a bit of work that I've planned for tomorrow15:02
shadeslayerthe packaging wasn't in sync between bzr and the archive15:03
shadeslayerso, while I've sync'd it ... someone needs to go over the last few revision once15:03
yofeldebfx: as Riddell said that was because of kde-wallpapers split - if we leave it merged that should be changed to install kdewallpapers again as it did before15:03
yofelah, I'll take a look later maybe15:04
shadeslayerand libkvkontakte-data might need a kick from binary new15:04
Riddellwe could look at unsplitting kde-wallpapers with our larger image size now, depends on how much it adds15:04
RiddellI wonder how translations are done in digikam15:05
yofelRiddell: it is merged now - that's what makes the images larger15:05
shadeslayerI'd really like to see more wallpapers on the ISO, just having one lonely wallpaper seems bad15:05
Riddellyofel: oh right, I didn't spot that happening15:05
yofelkde-wallpapers-default is a transitional package now, but still in the seeds until we're sure we'll leave it like this15:06
Riddellshadeslayer: yeah yeah next you'll be asking for language and then games and then you'll be moaning that 1GB isn't enough!15:06
debfxyofel: I know, I was merely commenting on the ambiguity of what "default wallpapers" means. to me it sounds like "install the wallpapers that are installed by default".15:07
apacheloggerwhat we need is multi-size wallpaper15:07
apacheloggernot one for all15:07
apacheloggerwhich then looks like the crap pile of crap15:07
yofelah ok15:07
* debfx notes that killing kde-wallpapers-default means diverging from Debian15:08
yofelwhy did they split it?15:10
Riddellto save ISO space15:11
yofeldid I miss something or aren't debian install images a set from the whole archive?15:12
Riddellyofel: why do you think you might have missed something?15:14
debfxyofel: there is a debian kde cd image15:15
yofelok, I didn't know about that one15:15
yofel(last time I checked (quite a while ago) all I found were a set of many images and the netinst for installation)15:15
soeehi15:23
yofelso, do we want to keep it like this? I merged it to make things simplier, but considering the size and that it's easy to install it would probably make more sense to merge some of the harder to notice splits15:25
yofel(esp. those that aren't done in debian)15:25
Riddellif it's split in debian we should keep it that way15:26
yofelok, I'll revert it15:27
highvoltageScottK: howdy! I see pairs end up under the "Other" menu in Gnome. would it be ok if I update the .desktop file so that it ends up under the right place?15:40
jussiRiddell: my system needs to "kinda" work, ie. the wife needs to be able to use it a bit - Ill upgrade usually about alpha315:47
jussian the work system...well...15:47
Riddelljussi: see ubuntu has this new dev-release-always-stable policy, I'm wondering if anyone in practice has used it16:04
Riddellhighvoltage: is it an upstream bug?16:05
Riddellhave you worked out what the problem is?16:05
shadeslayerwell that's weird .. words and stage don't want to compile on precise16:14
shadeslayerand the CMake diff is insanely large16:14
yofeloh, you need that -DHAVEPATCHEDQT define or what it was called in rules for qt 4.8.1 - see precise package16:15
yofelor wait, I'll get it16:15
shadeslayeruh ok16:16
shadeslayerSomeone needs to write a backporting guide with all these caveats :P16:17
yofelshadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/50271816:18
shadeslayerbuilding16:19
yofelRiddell: I'm always running the dev release here on my work notebook - with a backup system not too far away. Works fine 95% of the time, and then something from the "doesn't boot anymore" scale happens. So IMO dailies are perfectly fine for testing, but even a "always keep it stable" policy won't prevent people from making mistakes16:26
shadeslayerNo matter what you do, shit will happen16:27
yofelif you want a continous testing release, that's debian testing. Uploading to -proposed and auto-copying to release will only prevent apt breakage, it's still unstable16:28
Riddellmm16:31
RiddellI'm mindful that backports take a lot of time to do and are only used by the sort of people who could upgrade to the development release16:31
yofelwell, we could drop the beta backports? Those happen during the times when we don't really have time for them. Backporting a stable release once a month for including ~2 point releases is ok IMHO16:33
yofels/for//16:33
kubotuyofel meant: "well, we could drop the beta backports? Those happen during the times when we don't really have time  them. Backporting a stable release once a month for including ~2 point releases is ok IMHO"16:33
yofelsed fail16:33
JontheEchidnalol16:34
soeenoo :) keep on with beta backports 16:35
CIA-45[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 38 * debian/ (5 files) Revert kde-wallpapers[-default] merge from 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu116:40
yofelthat'll fix most of the image size16:41
Riddellyofel: mm dumping beta backports is an interesting middle ground16:50
debfxyofel: I think we should include all sizes of the default wallpaper in kde-wallpapers-default16:51
RiddellMamarok as a non-dev how would that make you feel?  to get beta from neon and devel release rather than beta backports16:51
yofeldebfx: didn't think about that, right16:51
Mamarokthe problem with Neon is that it needs a separate installation, so not something I can test on the same machine16:52
yofelMamarok: it doesn't - and if it does then something's broken16:52
Mamarokyofel: oh, then I was misinformed, and that would be perfect for beta testing16:53
Mamarokso I can get Neon packages and once I want stable I just disable it?16:54
yofelone issue with neon is that I never got the python bindings done - so all python parts are missing (It's a PITA to do really)16:54
Mamarokhm, what app would that influence?16:54
yofelprinter settings at least, and whatever else uses python16:55
Mamarokand is it possible to mix stuff, e.g. getting just one app from Neon but keep Precise for the rest?16:55
yofelneon is installed seperately (which is what makes it tricky to do) - so you keep everything from precise16:56
Mamarokyofel: didn't you just say it was not?16:56
Riddellit's installed into /opt so you have to log out and in to run it16:57
Mamarokah, crap16:57
MamarokI think I will reactivate my old laptop instead16:57
yofelyou can run specific apps from konsole in the normal session - but not plasma etc.16:58
Mamarokor as a different user?16:58
Riddellapachelogger: why amarok no output to headphones when dragon does!  phonon smells!16:58
yofelit doesn't share the settings with the normal KDE install, so a seperate user isn't really needed16:58
MamarokRiddell: I blame PA16:58
Mamarokyofel: but I have a second user, so that would suffice?16:59
yofelsure16:59
Mamarokso I can just switch user for testing, which doesn't need me to log out16:59
yofelah, yeah, should be fine16:59
* Mamarok needs to get a bigger HD then, or use the old laptop instead17:01
Mamarokso yes, dump the beta backports, since we have an alterantive17:04
Mamarokalternative even :)17:05
shadeslayerand since we're setting up qemu images for neon, testing is going to be even easier17:10
shadeslayeryou could run stable KDE and run neon in a virtual image17:11
shadeslayeralso, yay : /tmp/buildd/calligra-2.4.91a/active/src/MainWindow.h:27:26: fatal error: kdeclarative.h: No such file or directory17:11
shadeslayer!find kdeclarative.h quantal17:11
ubottuPackage/file kdeclarative.h does not exist in quantal17:11
yofelquantal: kdelibs5-dev, precise: kdelibs5-experimental-dev17:11
starbuckanyone knows the email of david edmundson (from lightdm-kde?)17:12
shadeslayeryeah17:12
snelehi guys. do you plan to update plasma-nm for precise? current version in precise is 0.9.0.1 and newer releases have some important fixes. 17:24
snelehttp://lamarque-lvs.blogspot.com/2012/06/plasma-nm-0903.html17:24
yofelkubotu: newversion networkmanagement 0.9.0.3 http://lamarque-lvs.blogspot.com/2012/06/plasma-nm-0903.html17:29
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/101475317:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1014753 in networkmanagement (Ubuntu) "Please update networkmanagement to 0.9.0.3" [Undecided,New]17:29
yofelsnele: we'll at least backport it to precise, as for -updates we'll have to see17:31
yofelsnele: we'll at least backport it to precise, as for -updates we'll have to see17:31
sneleyofel: ok. lamarque (plasma-nm dev) is asking distributions to update it in their repositories: "We receive duplicates of this bug twice a day because users have not updated their Plasma NM installations. Unfortunately, some distributions still have not created updates for 0.9.0.2, which was released more than 40 days ago. Please distributions, help me and provide updates for your users, ok?"17:34
snelebtw I am not experiencing any bugs with precise's plasma-nm but seems that a lot of other kubuntu users do17:36
yofelshadeslayer: are you going to upload calligra-l10n or should I?17:50
shadeslayerif you're free do it17:50
shadeslayerI'm trying to make calligra compile on precise17:50
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shadeslayercollect2: ld returned 1 exit status17:55
shadeslayer\o/17:55
yofellooks like ccache mess17:56
shadeslayeryeah, now I'll have to rebuild the entire thing again :|17:56
Peace-ok 12.10 tested good18:11
soeePeace-, tested what :>18:33
apacheloggerRiddell: how would I know18:37
highvoltageRiddell: it's like that in the upstream tarball18:44
highvoltage(regarding pairs)18:45
BarkingFishEvening guys :)  Wonder if you could help me... I'm trying to install some packages for debugging kmail 4.8.3 - it's died, and yet the crash assistant is telling me it can't find debug packages for the trace.  Do we have all the necessary symbol packages out there please?18:45
yofelcalligra-l10n is fun18:45
yofelat least the debian folks ship a script to set that up18:45
yofelBarkingFish: depends on the file that's missing, can you pastebin the incomplete trace?18:46
BarkingFishsure, one mo18:46
BarkingFishyofel, http://pastebin.com/uDgH3rvf18:47
yofelsymbols are there, it probably complains about "Backtrace stopped: previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?)"18:48
BarkingFishhm.  So the trace is unusable?18:49
BarkingFishit's marked up a 2* in the assistant - i was basically doing a mass delete, and it just died outright.  18:49
yofelwell, a few symbols are there... not sure18:50
BarkingFishit might be worth submitting, i suppose. Whatever is there could still match something i would imagine18:50
BarkingFishbut if there are any missing symbols, i guess it would make it harder to figure out what the heck had gone wrong.18:51
BarkingFishyep, it's already hit the bug, it's a duplicate yofel 18:54
yofelheh18:54
BarkingFish286708 - Kmail crashes while adding/deleting old mails to/from inbox18:55
BarkingFishi'll submit it and it'll get attached to that one I'd assume18:55
BarkingFishnot filed, it's a common crash, 139 bugs marked duplicate off it, and I have nothing new to add on.18:57
ScottKhighvoltage: We'd want something that could be upstreamed.19:10
shadeslayerjussi: ping19:25
shadeslayerjussi: I'm going to put calligra into staging, could you test after it's built?19:25
highvoltageScottK: any of you have commit rights? could I just provide an updated .desktop file for you?19:27
shadeslayerhighvoltage: I have commit rights19:27
ScottKhighvoltage: I don't, but I believe Riddell or apachelogger could.19:27
shadeslayerthough it would be best to just post the patch on reviewboard19:28
apacheloggershadeslayer can19:28
shadeslayercalligra for precise uploaded to staging19:30
jussishadeslayer: likely, likely, but definately not tonight20:12
JontheEchidnaany symbols experts know what to do w/ a symbols file that works on amd64 but not i386? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/107917253/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-i386.libkgapi_0.4.0-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz21:09
solid_liqJontheEchidna, use it on amd6421:15
debfxJontheEchidna: you should use pkgkde tools to create symbol files21:23
debfxJontheEchidna: they generate this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1048139/21:24
debfx(with "1.7" replaced by "0.4.0" ;) )21:26
JontheEchidnadebfx: thanks21:31
Riddellhighvoltage: yes can commit fixes21:58

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