[09:22] <frankban> hi gmb: could you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~frankban/lpsetup/lc-all/+merge/110758 ?
[09:25] <gmb> frankban, Sure
[09:25] <gmb> frankban, approved
[09:26] <frankban> thank you gmb
[09:26] <gmb> np
[12:09] <gary_poster> bac benji frankban gmb call in 2; getting url
[12:09] <bac> ok
[12:10] <gary_poster> bac benji frankban gmb https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/2c6599d11c7159052edd4731ddb79ca303723351?authuser=1&hl=en-US
[12:28]  * gmb lunches
[12:28] <benji> gary_poster: I'm tweaking https://dev.launchpad.net/yellow/Termbeamer a tad bit so we can include it in whatever announcements we make.
[12:29] <gary_poster> benji, great!  So it will have a NEWS section, you mean?  Or it will just be more geared to new users?
[12:30] <benji> gary_poster: I'm adding notes about saving credentials and remote control; I assume only a very few people have read it thus far, but perhaps a short news section mentioning the other new sections is in order
[12:31] <gary_poster> Might be nice, yeah.
[12:57] <benji> gary_poster: my edits to https://dev.launchpad.net/yellow/Termbeamer are done; any further suggestions are welcome
[13:00] <gary_poster> benji, nice improvements.  I suggest moving the "motivation" section to the top, and then deleting what is at the top now ("The Termbeamer project is a follow-on to our work on RemoteTerminalBroadcasting....").  Maybe keep the one sentence about hosting ("The Termbeamer project is hosted on Launchpad at http://launchpad.net/termbeamer.") or put it in a new "Development" section.
[13:01] <gary_poster> (It can include "Merge proposals welcome!  Please include tests." as the rest of your development section if you want. :-)
[13:03] <benji> gary_poster: I like it.  Doing that now.
[13:03] <gary_poster> cool
[13:04] <benji> gary_poster: by the way, I now own termbeamer.com.  I really should put up a minimal one-page site.
[13:04] <gary_poster> benji, cool! :-) definitely, and then we can point there instead
[13:17] <frankban> gary_poster: fixtures 0.3.9 has been released last week. at this point I guess we could just increase the version number in versions.cfg
[13:17] <frankban> gary_poster: 0.3.9 includes the FakeLogger details.
[13:20] <benji> gary_poster: updated: https://dev.launchpad.net/yellow/Termbeamer
[13:22] <gary_poster> frankban, great.  I marked the card as unblocked.  Thank you for investigating.
[13:23] <gary_poster> benji, looks great
[13:24] <benji> gary_poster: so should I prioritize getting termbeamer.com up or wait until later (I think it will take two or three hours at the most)
[13:26] <gary_poster> benji, it looks like noone wants a pair. and there's no pertinent miscellaneous task.  If so, slack time project (like this) is fine.
[13:26] <benji> gary_poster: ok, I'll make a card
[13:51] <frankban> benji: could you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~frankban/launchpad/bug-1002820-rabbitmq-timeout-again/+merge/110822 ?
[13:51] <benji> frankban: sure
[14:03] <gary_poster> bac or gmb hey.  no rush but when you get a chance could you get me the branches we are waiting on SpamapS for, so I can bring them to flacoste's attention?
[14:03] <bac> ok
[14:03] <gmb> gary_poster, Er... crumbs, I'll have to go and find it :)
[14:03] <gary_poster> :-) gmb, looks like bac is on it, unless you all want to coordinate among yourselves
[14:05] <gmb> gary_poster, Well, the latest Python charm-tools branch I touched is this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~gmb/charm-tools/add-charm-helpers
[14:05] <gmb> (Which SpamapS approved for merging)
[14:05] <gmb> bac may know where the python-shelltoolbox one is; I don't.
[14:05]  * bac looks
[14:06] <gmb> Blimey:  last revision: 146. By Graham Binns on 2012-03-19
[14:06] <gmb> 3 months ago.
[14:09] <bac> i know i made changes since then
[14:09] <gmb> Ah, okay.
[14:09] <gmb> So we probably need to point Spamaps / flacoste at your changes, in that case.
[14:10] <bac> hah
[14:10] <bac> https://code.launchpad.net/~yellow/charm-tools/trunk/+merge/101554
[14:10] <bac> i see juan actually looked at it but i didn't see it
[14:10] <bac> gary_poster, gmb: ^^
[14:11] <gary_poster> on call, will review asap
[14:15]  * bac is disproportionately excited that his replacement UPS batteries will be delivered today.  it is the one my cable modem uses.
[14:40] <benji> frankban: https://code.launchpad.net/~frankban/launchpad/bug-1002820-rabbitmq-timeout-again/+merge/110822 looks good
[14:41] <frankban> benji: thank you
[14:49] <frankban> benji: just another versions.cfg update: https://code.launchpad.net/~frankban/launchpad/fixtures-0.3.9/+merge/110837
[14:50] <bac> gmb: did you have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~yellow/charm-tools/trunk/+merge/101554 ?
[14:51] <bac> that MP is a summary branch for all of yellow's charm tools work.  so it supercedes any MP you may have submitted, i think.
[14:52] <bac> juan's complaint will be solved if/when clint does the packaging for python-shelltoolbox, so it is a bit of a no-op.
[14:52] <benji> frankban: done
[14:52] <gmb> bac: Yes, I agree (sorry, I looked and then forgot to say anything).
[14:53] <gmb> bac: Yeah, we're hanging on Clint here; not much else we can do really.
[14:53] <bac> s/hanging on/hanging/
[14:54] <frankban> thanks benji
[14:55] <benji> np
[14:59] <bac> gary_poster, gmb: i don't think there are any outstanding changes to https://code.launchpad.net/~yellow/python-shelltoolbox/trunk, so it is the latest.
[15:00] <bac> just awaiting some lucid-compatible packaging foo
[15:05] <gary_poster> bac, so I need to point flacoste to https://code.launchpad.net/~yellow/charm-tools/trunk/+merge/101554 and https://code.launchpad.net/~yellow/python-shelltoolbox/trunk right?
[15:06] <bac> gary_poster: yes.
[15:06] <gary_poster> cool thanks bac (and gmb)
[15:09] <bac> gary_poster: i've added a comment to juan's review at https://code.launchpad.net/~yellow/charm-tools/trunk/+merge/101554
[15:10] <gary_poster> thanks bac
[16:01] <gary_poster> bac, you saw mark mims's reply to https://code.launchpad.net/~yellow/charm-tools/trunk/+merge/101554 ?  This may or may not have anything to do with also pinging flacoste about all this. :-)
[16:04] <bac> gary_poster: i did not get an email for that comment.  i wonder what is going on?  perhaps i have an overly zealous filter somewhere.
[16:04]  * gary_poster knows not
[16:04] <bac> gary_poster: afaik there were never bugs opened for those efforts
[16:19] <benji> gary_poster: I can't say it is beautiful and if it gets within three miles of an html validator it would likey burst into flame, but termbeamer.com is up
[16:19] <benji> I'm going to eat lunch and then integrate the fantastic feedback you're about to give me
[16:19] <gary_poster> benji, no feedback, looks great! :-)
[16:20] <benji> reflections are so 2010 ;P
[16:21] <gary_poster> bac, I saw your reply and on MP.  Thanks.  If you need me to file, lemme know.
[16:21] <gary_poster> :-)
[18:23]  * bac shuts down network temporarily
[18:34]  * bac \0/  power backup
[18:58] <benji> there are no more outstanding reviews and I will refrain from futzing with termbeamer.com any more, so I'll look at the cards for a task
[18:58] <benji> (that last bit sounds like we're doing tarot-driven development)
[19:13] <gary_poster> heh
[19:13] <gary_poster> benji, I moved termbeamer.com over to done-donw
[19:14] <benji> thanks
[19:14] <gary_poster> bug 1013921 would be cool to tackle benji--or actually...
[19:14] <_mup_> Bug #1013921: our zope.testing fork needs to emit subunit time immediately before test start and immediately before test completion <paralleltest> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013921 >
[19:14] <gary_poster> maybe you need to wait on the other zope.testing work?
[19:14] <gary_poster> reinstating work for bug 1011793 would be good, and also fast I assume
[19:14] <_mup_> Bug #1011793: lib/lp/services/profile/profiling.txt fails rarely/intermittently in parallel tests <paralleltest> <qa-untestable> <Launchpad itself:Fix Released by benji> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1011793 >
[19:15] <gary_poster> benji, failing all that, I intend to investigate "994752" (that really doesn't make sense given the bug's title, but hey it is shorthand)
[19:15] <gary_poster> and you could join me on that
[19:15] <gary_poster> I'll be ready in 5 or so
[19:16] <benji> gary_poster: yeah, I figured more zope.testing work wasn't a good idea right now; 994752 sounds fine to me
[19:17] <gary_poster> benji, fascinating: running with 20 runs seems to be faster than 32 or 24
[19:17] <gary_poster> ok, I'll ping when I'm ready.
[19:17] <gary_poster> soon
[19:17] <benji> k
[19:17] <benji> that is interesting; have we done a run with 16?
[19:24] <gary_poster> y
[19:25] <gary_poster> slower
[19:58] <bac> yay, gary_poster blog post shows up on fb
[19:59] <gary_poster> :-)
[20:16] <benji> gary_poster: there seems to be some kind of network turbulence
[20:16] <gary_poster> there is a disturbance in the force
[20:17] <benji> I think we broke Google.
[20:18] <benji> "We're sorry, hangout is currently unavailable. Please try again later."
[20:31] <gary_poster> benji, I'm still there https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/ebda6f15e20c0faf49f56969bbc089b4c00214a9?authuser=1&hl=en-US
[21:20] <bac> pids killed