[00:06] <morten77> hmm....
[00:14] <msdaisy> how can you tell in the terminal whether a file is mounted or not?  This is on a server with no gui BTW.
[00:19] <morten77> I don't know... but I guess you can allways run "mount" and go from there
[00:21] <msdaisy> I did. I think I mounted it then I unmounted it. But ls gives the same output for both. So I can't tell whether it was mounted or not.
[07:32] <mattygee> hey, my wireless hardware switch used to be on by default till I plugged the ethernet cable into my computer.  Now whenever I turn on my computer or it unsuspends I have to manually turn the hardware switch on by pressing f2 twice.  Is there a way to make the wireless onn all the time? cheers
[07:50] <geirha> mattygee: I don't know, but my first guess would be that the bios is doing this.
[07:51] <geirha> If I start up my laptop with ethernet cable plugged in, wireless will still be active, so I don't think Ubuntu is doing anything "clever" there.
[09:46] <Quinto_> I want to use one of my old computers as a server in my LAN. Mainly LAMP to test website stuff, etc. Maybe use it as fileserver too. Now I wonder if I should install Ubuntu-Server or Ubuntu-Desktop. Server seems like the obvious choice, but I thought I might actually take advantage of the comfort a "Windows"-like Interface brings
[09:47] <Quinto_> I read that installing Unity or Gnome "by hand" later is not that easy
[09:47] <Quinto_> so I thought maybe install Ubuntu-Desktop although the system will work as server.
[09:48] <geirha> It's not that hard, but just install the desktop
[09:50] <Quinto_> it's the main reason I "failed" getting into linux the first time ;) Tried debian, worked nice as LAMP, tried to install KDE, got frustrated after X tries and went back to windows -.-
[09:50] <geirha> There's mainly only one difference between a server install and a desktop install; what packages they install.
[09:51] <geirha> You can convert a desktop install to a server install and vice versa just by removing and installing the right set of packages
[09:51] <Quinto_> ok thanks, I think I'll go with the Desktop then.
[09:52] <geirha> doing   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   on a server install should get you a desktop just like if you had done the desktop install in the first place
[09:52] <Quinto_> is there a reason the Server Install is marked as "amd64"? Won't it run on intel?
[09:53] <geirha> amd was first, so they got to name the architecture. it will work just as fine on an intel 64-bit processor
[09:54] <Quinto_> ah ok, thanks. confusing way to name it though
[09:54] <geirha> just like a 32-bit amd processor will run i386 (intel 80386) just fine
[12:44] <stlsaint> is anybody having update issues after latest apt update?
[18:46] <thewrath> hello Areckx aeoril and penreturns
[18:46] <Areckx> sup
[18:56] <CavemanZipper> hey guys!
[18:56] <CavemanZipper> Just asking..
[18:56] <CavemanZipper> Can you access files that are on your hard drive
[18:56] <CavemanZipper> from Ubuntu
[18:56] <CavemanZipper> if they were saved in Windows?
[18:57] <hobgoblin> should be able to - have a look in the file manager - one of the drives in the left pane will probably be the windows drive - click it - it will mount an open
[18:57] <CavemanZipper> I downloaded some movies, and i want to reboot to Ubuntu, but I don't know if i'll be able to watch em.
[18:58] <CavemanZipper> cool
[18:58] <CavemanZipper> i'll give it a shot
[18:58] <thewrath> hopefully you downloaded them legally
[18:59] <thewrath> oh didnt realized i missed him
[18:59] <hobgoblin> they'll be back thewrath - how do I play this film on linux
[19:01] <penreturns> hello
[19:02] <thewrath> what film hobgoblin ?
[19:02] <KRYVYSH> omg, penreturn, are u the penreturn from penreturns.rc.my?
[19:02] <penreturns> ermmm
[19:02] <penreturns> yes
[19:02] <KRYVYSH> your site is awesome. Just saying.
[19:02] <penreturns> ahaaa thanks man
[19:02] <hobgoblin> I've no idea thewrath - I've not got an issue - caveman probably wil though :)
[19:02] <KRYVYSH> welcome :
[19:02] <KRYVYSH> :) *
[19:14] <CavemanZipper> hey
[19:14] <CavemanZipper> so i tried rebooting to ubuntu...
[19:14] <CavemanZipper> and got a weird black-screen error.
[19:14] <CavemanZipper> I took a pic.
[19:16] <cavemanzipper_> Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block
[19:16] <cavemanzipper_> and a whole bunch of numbers before that
[19:16] <cavemanzipper_> what does this sound like?
[19:17] <cavemanzipper_> I Installed Ubuntu from their site's windows installer
[19:17] <cavemanzipper_> I got a few errors through my downloads
[19:17] <cavemanzipper_> had to re-isntall the downloader 3 times before it worked
[19:17] <cavemanzipper_> and now it's crashing and wont start
[19:33] <cavemanzipper_> helloo
[19:33] <cavemanzipper_> ??
[19:46] <holstein> cavemanzipper_: you installed ubuntu from what?
[19:47] <holstein> WUBI?
[19:47] <holstein> i would try downloading the iso and burning the CD, and trying it live on the hardware
[19:47] <Lammerix> hey everyone
[19:47] <holstein> could be some hardware that the kernel is not supporting
[19:48] <Lammerix> holstein, I tried to boot ubuntu from cd but booting takes forever
[19:48] <Lammerix> if that was the quesiton:)
[19:49] <holstein> i didnt ask a question, but i wouldnt expect it to be "snappy", i would expect to get a good idea of hardware support
[19:50] <Lammerix> is there anyone who you are speaking with already? if not, tell me your issue
[19:52] <alchemist9> ???
[19:55] <Lammerix> anyone using xchat-gnome?
[19:57] <alchemist9> irssi myself..
[19:57] <hobgoblin> xchat
[19:57] <Meridious> xchat here
[20:00] <Lammerix> beeping on messages?
[20:00] <Lammerix> okay, found it
[20:01] <Lammerix> type a msg
[20:01] <Meridious> NO
[20:01] <Meridious> II DONT WANT TO
[20:01] <Meridious> oh wait
[20:02] <Lammerix> i guess this sound plugin won't work
[20:02] <Meridious> :0
[20:03] <Lammerix> okay, so anyone knows how to restore grub after 2 hours playing with it?
[20:04] <Lammerix> I guess Meridious isn't a beginner, are you?
[20:05] <Meridious> nope
[20:06] <Lammerix> do you know how to restore grub?
[20:08] <hobgoblin> reinstall it Lammerix - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2
[20:09] <Lammerix> hobgoblin: it's for 1.99 I guess. I have that one working almost okay. the 2.04beta is gone