[17:49] <xnox> am I an hourly early or just 10 mins early
[17:49]  * xnox you never know with british summer time
[17:49] <stgraber> 10mins early
[17:50] <stgraber> hmm, or maybe 1h10 actually :)
[17:50] <xnox> Monday June 18th, 2012 19:00 UTC
[17:50] <stgraber> my phone seems to be wrong
[17:50] <xnox> 17:50 Monday (GMT) - Time in Coordinated Universal Time
[17:50] <xnox> stgraber: google calendars suck
[17:50]  * stgraber assumes the wiki to be authoritative
[17:50]  * xnox wonders how many people will be here at 18:00 UTC
[17:51]  * stgraber fixes his calendar
[17:51]  * xnox goes back to reading Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
[17:59] <mdeslaur> it's security team meeting time :)
[18:01] <xnox> mdeslaur: in that case I will stick around to ask about apparmor python3 code review of mines =)
[18:02] <mdeslaur> hehe
[18:02]  * tyhicks is here
[18:02] <jjohansen> \o
[18:02]  * xnox 0/
[18:02]  * sbeattie o/
[18:04] <jdstrand> hi!
[18:04] <jdstrand> #startmeeting
[18:04] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Jun 18 18:04:51 2012 UTC.  The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[18:04] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[18:05] <jdstrand> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[18:05] <jdstrand> *shrug*
[18:05] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[18:05] <jdstrand> I'll go first
[18:06] <jdstrand> I'm on triage this week
[18:06] <jdstrand> I'm working on libreoffice and oo.o this week
[18:07] <jdstrand> I had a short week last week and got distracted by the apt updates, so not much was done there (though I did manage to get the related raprot update out this morning)
[18:07] <jdstrand> I also have a short week next week
[18:07] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: you're up
[18:08] <mdeslaur> I'm in the happy place this week
[18:08] <mdeslaur> I just published libav/ffmpeg updates
[18:08] <mdeslaur> and have php5 and clamav updates to test
[18:08] <mdeslaur> which I should be publishing this week
[18:08] <mdeslaur> after that, I have some merges to do
[18:08] <mdeslaur> and that's about it for me
[18:08] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: you're up
[18:08] <sbeattie> I'm on community this week.
[18:09] <sbeattie> My focus for the week is the openjdk-6 update + backports
[18:09] <sbeattie> I'll try to pick up something else in the backgroud.
[18:09] <sbeattie> I think that's it for me (besides trying to shake the remnants of this cold)
[18:09] <sbeattie> micahg: tag
[18:10] <micahg> I've got patch piloting, Firefox/Thunderbird 13.0.1, then webkit, if sbeattie gets the openjdk stuff ready for testing, I'll be helping him with the browser plugin testing
[18:10] <micahg> that's it for me
[18:10] <tyhicks> I'm in the happy place this week
[18:11] <tyhicks> I got all of my eCryptfs fixes out last week. I only have a patch review pending for this week.
[18:11] <tyhicks> I'll get through that today and then will focus on updates
[18:11] <tyhicks> I also have some merges to do that I'll try to fit in later in the week
[18:12] <tyhicks> That's it for me
[18:12] <tyhicks> jjohansen: you're up
[18:12] <jjohansen> I need to poke at the bugs that were reported on the ml some more. I expect the genprof problems are actually related to audit dropping messages, but need to confirm that.
[18:12] <jjohansen> I also need to finish dealing with debian Bug#676515 so that they can have a working apparmor in wheezy
[18:13] <jjohansen> Other than that I am trying to finish up enough of the stacking work to get an alpha1 out before I take off on vacation next week
[18:14] <xnox> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=676515
[18:14] <jjohansen> yeah, its pretty bad :/
[18:15] <jjohansen> I think that is it from /me jdstrand back to you
[18:15] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[18:15] <jdstrand> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[18:16] <jdstrand> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[18:16] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/alien-arena.html
[18:16] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/weechat.html
[18:16] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/smsclient.html
[18:16] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/slurm-llnl.html
[18:16] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/xmlsec1.html
[18:16] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[18:17]  * xnox 0/
[18:17] <jdstrand> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[18:17] <jdstrand> xnox: go ahead
[18:17] <xnox> Is anyone going to do a review of python3 port? https://code.launchpad.net/~dmitrij.ledkov/apparmor/py3/+merge/109682
[18:17] <xnox> is there anything left to do?
[18:17] <xnox> which version of apparmor will ship with quantal (such that I can prepare packaging changes)
[18:17] <xnox> unless security team will take that responsibility
[18:17] <xnox> ..
[18:18] <jdstrand> xnox: I will take that responsibility (review, packaging, etc)
[18:18] <xnox> jdstrand: any ETA? =) e.g. quantal milestone?
[18:18] <jdstrand> xnox: sorry I haven't gotten to the review yet. thank you for the porting-- I was planning on ding it myself :)
[18:19] <xnox> ACTION jdstrand to review apparmor python3 port
[18:19]  * xnox or maybe the chair needs to do that
[18:19] <xnox> ok, thanks. sorted then =)
[18:19] <xnox> ..
[18:19] <jdstrand> xnox: soonish? feel free to take it off your list
[18:19]  * xnox ok
[18:20]  * sbeattie had also meant to review it as well, sorry
[18:20] <sbeattie> jdstrand: FYI, last week I punted on triaging the md5crypt cve
[18:20] <jdstrand> xnox: as you can imagine, we get sidetracked fairly often with security updates, but we'll get to it
[18:21] <jdstrand> xnox: thanks again for your work on it :)
[18:21] <xnox> I do know how much great work you lot do. I am subscribed to security announces
[18:21] <jdstrand> :)
[18:21] <sbeattie> jdstrand: we don't have it in the archive, but I wasn't sure whether we wanted to mark it as ignored, or have a full not-affected cve entry where we could put references to how we've transitioned away from md5.
[18:21] <xnox> well done you all =) especially keeping it cool with "I'm in a happy place this week"
[18:22] <xnox> jdstrand: I have marked my workitem as done, and added one for you on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-q-python-versions
[18:23] <jdstrand> xnox: ok. I already had one in another bp, but that's cool
[18:23] <jdstrand> sbeattie: noted
[18:24] <jdstrand> any other items to discuss?
[18:24] <xnox> jdstrand: barry uses that one to track the progress as he is driving python3 migration
[18:25]  * jdstrand nods
[18:26] <jdstrand> mdeslaur, sbeattie, micahg, tyhicks, jjohansen, xnox: thanks!
[18:26] <jdstrand> #endmeeting
[18:26] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Jun 18 18:26:26 2012 UTC.
[18:26] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-18-18.04.moin.txt
[18:26] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-18-18.04.html
[18:26] <tyhicks> thanks!
[18:26] <jjohansen> thanks jdstrand
[18:26] <sbeattie> jdstrand: thank you
[18:26] <xnox> thanks a lot
[18:26] <mdeslaur> thanks jdstrand!
[18:26] <micahg> thanks jdstrand
[18:54]  * xnox prepares the bonfire
[19:01] <xnox> stgraber: ping
[19:01]  * stgraber waves
[19:02] <stgraber> !dmb-ping
[19:02] <tumbleweed> o/
[19:02] <micahg> o/
[19:02] <stgraber> we need one more
[19:02] <micahg> bdrung would be the only one available it seems
[19:02] <micahg> *possibly
[19:02] <bdrung> o/
[19:02] <stgraber> yay
[19:03]  * xnox thought barry was around
[19:03] <stgraber> #startmeeting
[19:03] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Jun 18 19:03:06 2012 UTC.  The chair is stgraber. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[19:03] <tumbleweed> aww, I was hoping to go to sleep :P
[19:03] <stgraber> xnox: nope, both barry and Laney said they couldn't attend this one
[19:03] <stgraber> #topic Review of previous action items
[19:03] <stgraber> micahg to document the zentyl packageset
[19:03] <micahg> nope :(
[19:03] <stgraber> stgraber to review the freeze process with bencer
[19:04] <stgraber> still need to poke highvoltage about that...
[19:04] <stgraber> cody-somerville to vote in early meeting poll
[19:04] <highvoltage> bencer has been really quiet recently
[19:04] <cody-somerville> Hi
[19:04]  * highvoltage pokes him now
[19:04] <stgraber> highvoltage: can you make sure that he's perfectly aware of the freezes before he uploads anything?
[19:05] <highvoltage> stgraber: I can explain it to him, the understanding part is up to him
[19:05] <stgraber> highvoltage: ok :)
[19:05] <stgraber> cody-somerville: did you have a chance to vote in that early meeting poll?
[19:06] <cody-somerville> I don't believe so. Still not sure how since it seemed like I had to vote on specific dates or something, lol
[19:06] <stgraber> cody-somerville: ok, I'll keep that action item on the list then
[19:07] <stgraber> the two others have been done:
[19:07] <stgraber> stgraber to add jbicha to MOTU (done)
[19:07] <stgraber> stgraber to remove rodrigo-moya's PPU rights (done)
[19:07] <bdrung> my schedule will change if we wait long enough
[19:07] <stgraber> #topic Ubuntu Contributing Developer Applications  - Juan Negron
[19:07] <stgraber> negronjl: ping
[19:07]  * negronjl waves
[19:08] <bdrung> i probably can attend the early meetings in 6 weeks and following
[19:08] <stgraber> negronjl: can you introduce yourself and your application please?
[19:08] <negronjl> hello all ...
[19:08] <negronjl> My name is Juan L. Negron ( wiki.ubuntu.com/JuanNegron/UbuntuContributingDeveloper )
[19:09] <negronjl> I currently work as a Systems Integration Engineero for Canonical ( currently located in San Francisco, CA, USA )
[19:09] <negronjl> I mainly hang around the Juju guys and charm related things
[19:10] <negronjl> I am currently applying for Ubuntu Contributing Developer
[19:11]  * negronjl not sure what else to add :/
[19:12]  * xnox bribing with home-baked cookies always works like a charm ;-)
[19:13] <tumbleweed> let me start the questions
[19:13] <tumbleweed> negronjl: I have a fairly hard time judging this application, because I don't see much directly-ubuntu-related activity
[19:14] <negronjl> tumbleweed: fair enough question ... I have been heavily involved in spreading the word on Juju
[19:14] <bdrung> xnox: we will eat all your cookies, but this will have no effect on the result of your application (unless we get all ill and need to defer the vote) ;)
[19:14] <negronjl> tumbleweed: that involves going to pretty much every conference, meeting that I can get into to spread the word there.
[19:14] <tumbleweed> are you intending to do more work on ubuntu itself?
[19:15] <tumbleweed> I se a bunch of uploads from june and august last year, but nothing since
[19:15] <negronjl> tumbleweed: also have run a few charm-schools for it.
[19:15] <tumbleweed> (orchestra-ish stuff, some of which hasn' tbeen touched since, and I don' tknow if that's good or bad)
[19:15] <negronjl> tumbleweed: the majority of my work these days has been geared towards juju and charms.
[19:15] <negronjl> tumbleweed: orchestra is no more ... now it's MaaS
[19:15] <negronjl> tumbleweed: that's why it hasn't been touched.
[19:15] <tumbleweed> the packages still appear to be published in the archive
[19:16] <tumbleweed> I wouldn't call that "no more"
[19:16] <negronjl> tumbleweed:  they are ... they are maintained but, no further development will happen on orchestra
[19:17] <negronjl> tumbleweed: that development effort has been geared towards Juju now.
[19:17]  * xnox thought orchestra => juju + MaaS
[19:17] <negronjl> xnox:  not really
[19:17] <negronjl> xnox: I am currently working on a demo for Structure/SF where I will deploy MaaS, Juju and such ....
[19:18] <negronjl> xnox: MaaS is something different from orchestra ... A different approach with a diff. goal
[19:20] <negronjl> MaaS intends to be a provider ( think Amazon/Aws )
[19:20] <negronjl> orchestra was something where you could deploy ready-made (puppet) work-loads to it
[19:22] <negronjl> another big diff. between orchestra and MaaS is that orchestra was puppet based and MaaS is just a provider that Juju can manipulate and consume
[19:23] <xnox> interesting. thanks.
[19:23] <negronjl> xnox: sure
[19:23] <bdrung> negronjl: you stated that you dislike the package review process. why? something else besides it being slow?
[19:24] <negronjl> bdrung: just slow ...
[19:25] <negronjl> bdrung: I had to write something I didn't like after all ;)
[19:25] <bdrung> negronjl: what did you have to write?
[19:26] <negronjl> bdrung: .... just a joke about having to write what I liked least about Ubuntu
[19:26] <bdrung> ah. :)
[19:26]  * xnox "If you tell me everything, you will not get into any type of trouble" - what a typical typical lie parents tell kids during upbringing ;-)
[19:26] <bdrung> negronjl: what do you mean with package review process. the sponsoring queue?
[19:27] <negronjl> xnox: I fell for that as a kid many times
[19:27] <bdrung> xnox: we like to know what can be improved in Ubuntu.
[19:28] <negronjl> bdrung:  When i started with orchestra, the packaging process and review process took a lot of effort ( It was mostly because I didn't understand it at all ).  ....
[19:28] <negronjl> bdrung:  As I work on this stuff more,  I see that it's more of a misunderstanding of the process ( that explains why the sponsoring queue is the way it is ) .....
[19:29] <negronjl> bdrung: and the need for me to clean up my packages ( after all ... one of the things that we all like about Ubuntu is that we can install a package and expect it to just _work_ )
[19:29] <bdrung> negronjl: was it just a misunderstanding on your side or a lack of/wrong documentation?
[19:30] <negronjl> bdrung: nowadays ... when I package stuff ( ie: ppa:cloudfoundry/daily ) I tend to look closer at those issues and see them as something that _I_ need to fix as opposed to something that the process needs to work for me.
[19:31] <negronjl> bdrung: packaging and sponsoring and getting these things into the archive can be a daunting process for someone new.  The help is out there ... I guess it could be put in a more concise manner but, I really would not know where to put it or how to go about making it better.
[19:31] <negronjl> Once I started to get a better understanding of the process, I realized that it is only as complicated and lengthy as it needs to be
[19:32] <negronjl> ... I guess I also got used to it so, at this point, I see it as just something that needs to be understood and worked through ...
[19:32] <negronjl> bdrung:  so the short answer is that it was daunting due to my inexperience with it.
[19:33] <stgraber> ok, sorry had to multi-task a little and follow some discussions the DMB had on the side
[19:34] <bdrung> many processes seem to be daunting/complex at the beginning
[19:34] <stgraber> the DMB doesn't think that ubuntu contributing developer is the right fit for you as it's really meant as a step towards MOTU
[19:34] <stgraber> instead, we'd highly recommend you apply through the regular Ubuntu Membership process where your contributions to the project through the juju charm schools and similar conferences will be considered
[19:35] <negronjl> stgraber: ok.  thx for the pointers
[19:36] <stgraber> negronjl: no problem, and all the best for your ubuntu membership application!
[19:36] <bdrung> "Ubuntu Contributing Packager" would be probably a better name instead of "Ubuntu Contributing Developer"
[19:36] <negronjl> thx for your time all
[19:37] <bdrung> you're welcome
[19:37] <stgraber> #topic Ubuntu Core Developer Applications - Dmitrijs Ledkovs
[19:37] <stgraber> xnox: your turn :)
[19:37] <inetpro> hmm....
[19:37] <inetpro> oops... wrong channel
[19:37] <xnox> Hello everyone =)
[19:38] <xnox> My name is Dmitrijs. I am Ubuntu Contributing Developer and Debian Developer.
[19:38] <xnox> I am currently employed by canonical and work fulltime with Foundations Team on the filesystem's tasks.
[19:39] <xnox> Since my $dayjob is more closely aligned with ubuntu+1, my hobby time contributions have picked up as well. Hence I am applying for Core Developer status.
[19:39] <xnox> The wiki page for my application is here:
[19:39] <xnox> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DmitrijsLedkovs/CoreDevApplication
[19:39] <xnox> ..
[19:40]  * tumbleweed hasn't seen any mention of cookies for +1s yet
[19:41] <bdrung> we first need to find a protocol to transport cookies over IP without loosing the taste ;)
[19:41]  * xnox prepared a ratatouille recipe for Laney & Barry which were making a fire for me at the last meeting. But they bailed. There was no time for cookies, sorry.
[19:42]  * xnox was considering airtight, vacuum containers, but was afraid of moisture turning into ice during air transportation. So I was thinking to make dehydrated cookies, but they are not as nice as soft baked once.
[19:42] <stgraber> So, let's say we are the 27th of June and you want to fix a bug in python-gevent, can you upload it to the archive at that point?
[19:42]  * xnox goes to check the calendar, to see what 27th of june is
[19:43] <xnox> so there are no milestones for stable releases in the interlock.
[19:43] <xnox> only alpha 2 freeze for quantal.
[19:44] <xnox> it is seeded on the edubuntu dvd image
[19:44] <micahg> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt comes to mind as a basis for transporting cookies over IP
[19:45] <xnox> i would upload to -proposed, or better get in touch with release team to see if the bugfix is required for a respin
[19:45] <xnox> assuming that the seeding has not changed by the time we get into 27th of june
[19:45]  * xnox goes to check MIRs
[19:45] <stgraber> good answer and well detailed answer :)
[19:45] <stgraber> are you subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce?
[19:46] <xnox> yes, on RSS, NNTP & email
[19:46] <tumbleweed> exotic
[19:46]  * xnox doesn't like missing *-announce stuff regardless what I happen to check first
[19:48] <tumbleweed> xnox: so, how do we make RAID/LUKS/LVM rock in ubuntu?
[19:48]  * xnox doesn't see any MIRs for python-gevent, and I shouldn't miss any new new MIR since I am subscribed to ubuntu-archive m-l for component missmatch notifications
[19:49] <xnox> tumbleweed: to make RAID/LUKS/LVM rock this needs implemented: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-q-software-raid
[19:49] <xnox> as well as all dependencies
[19:49] <xnox> and all bugs
[19:49] <xnox> and of course https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-q-ubiquity-lvm-luks
[19:49] <xnox> and all bugs in ubiquity/installer related to that
[19:49]  * tumbleweed missed that session
[19:49] <xnox> tumbleweed: which one? there was no session for ubiquity-lvm-luks
[19:50] <xnox> it was discussed to death for many cycles in a row =)
[19:50] <xnox> there were hallway discussions about it at the UDS-Q
[19:51]  * tumbleweed seems to recall some scheduled related sessions at UDS-Q, but nm
[19:51] <bdrung> xnox: is there a nice gui to create luks encrypted partitions?
[19:52] <xnox> bdrung: the design work is in progress.
[19:52]  * xnox hunts some links
[19:53] <xnox> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bZ4yQIVgGaUGSYu3qiUHnQt3ieBZoqunP_DcleHCr3I/edit#heading=h.v8wi3omt1z0
[19:53] <bdrung> i needed to create the partition on the gui to then mount it with typing the password into the gui
[19:54] <xnox> right now you can use gnome-disks which is on the live cd to create LUKS encrypted volume
[19:54] <xnox> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity/AdvancedPartitioningSchemes#Ubiquity_Mockups
[19:54] <xnox> is my "functional" mockups which will be enabled with `ubiquity --danger-do-not-use`
[19:54] <xnox> or some other more sensible command line flag
[19:55] <xnox> gnome-disks is fully gui. And encrypted usb drives are awesome. You plug it in, and a nice popup appears to unlock it.
[19:55] <stgraber> alright, we have 5 minutes left to the meeting, so let's vote
[19:55] <stgraber> #vote Core Dev Application - xnox
[19:55] <meetingology> Please vote on: Core Dev Application - xnox
[19:55] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[19:56] <bdrung> +1
[19:56] <meetingology> +1 received from bdrung
[19:56] <micahg> +1
[19:56] <meetingology> +1 received from micahg
[19:56] <tumbleweed> +1 [[ it's a faily early core-dev application, but warranted ]]
[19:56] <meetingology> +1 [[ it's a faily early core-dev application, but warranted ]] received from tumbleweed
[19:56] <stgraber> +1
[19:56] <meetingology> +1 received from stgraber
[19:57] <cody-somerville> +1
[19:57] <meetingology> +1 received from cody-somerville
[19:58] <stgraber> #endvote
[19:58] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Core Dev Application - xnox
[19:58] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[19:58] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:58] <stgraber> xnox: congrats!
[19:58]  * xnox \0/
[19:58] <stgraber> added to the team
[19:58] <tumbleweed> xnox: congrats. now you can help bring down the sponsorship backlog :P
[19:59]  * xnox goes to break^W make ubuntu better ;)
[19:59] <xnox> sure, I can now do sponsorship
[19:59] <stgraber> #topic Select a chair for the next meeting
[19:59]  * xnox votes barry
[20:00] <stgraber> can't remember, do we also do alphabetical order of IRC nicks like the TB?
[20:00] <stgraber> if so, it should be tumbleweed
[20:00] <tumbleweed> IIRC, we do alphabetical on full names
[20:00] <bdrung> alphabetical on first name
[20:00] <tumbleweed> I was the last chair
[20:00] <stgraber> ok, that's barry then
[20:01] <stgraber> #action barry to chair the next DMB meeting
[20:01] <meetingology> ACTION: barry to chair the next DMB meeting
[20:01] <stgraber> #endmeeting
[20:01] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Jun 18 20:01:06 2012 UTC.
[20:01] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-18-19.03.moin.txt
[20:01] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-18-19.03.html
[20:01] <xnox> thank you everyone
[20:01] <stgraber> almost on time :)
[20:01] <bdrung> we should go reverse after barry ;)
[20:01] <stgraber> bdrung: yeah right :)
[20:02] <bdrung> xnox: how is the gui of gnome-disks named? gnome-disks: command not found
[20:05] <xnox> bdrung: in unity dash search for 'disks'
[20:06] <xnox> in precise i think it plymptest thing
[20:06] <xnox> let me find
[20:06] <stgraber> palimpsest
[20:07] <xnox> stgraber: yeah that
[20:07]  * xnox can't understand wtf palimpsest suppose to mean
[20:07]  * xnox does a little dance