[06:49] <AlanBell> mcloy: hi
[06:49] <Tm_T> morning all
[06:49] <AlanBell> so just to review you said you were banned in #ubuntu, #ubuntu-server and #kubuntu
[06:49] <AlanBell> and the other day you were in #ubuntu as SpiritOf for a bit
[06:50] <AlanBell> and asked a question three times and missed someone giving you the correct answer, which is a bit unfortunate
[06:50] <AlanBell> which channel is it you want to ask a question in now?
[06:50] <mcloy> a minut
[06:51] <mcloy> 1. it is allowed to repeat after a reasonable interval. i did that. 2.i thought the ban was released. but actually it was my ip changed by my ISP. i didnt knew of. and i was there by my name "mcloy" . not hiding anything or deceiving.
[06:51] <mcloy> lastly
[06:52] <mcloy> i think its a war of charges against me. and i daily have to give explainations
[06:52] <mcloy> AlanBell i want to have a life in ubuntu. why hurdling me
[06:53] <AlanBell> repeating the question is OK, bit of a shame you missed the answer http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/06/16/%23ubuntu.html#t08:04
[06:53] <mcloy> a peaceful life
[06:53] <AlanBell> and repeated the question a couple of times after that I think
[06:53] <AlanBell> anyhow, which channel do you want to get back into now
[06:53] <mcloy> is it shamefull for a person who misses a text or answer?
[06:53] <mcloy> Mmm all three?
[06:54] <AlanBell> you have had difficulty with the concept of cross-posting questions, I have no intention of letting you ask something in three channels
[06:55] <mcloy> AlanBell and i will read the aup again. and try to keep following it. ill try to be more carefull
[06:55] <mcloy> AlanBell all three are different in scop
[06:55] <mcloy> ubuntu and kubuntu are a bit similer but as i said it wont happen
[06:55] <Tm_T> mcloy: may I ask why you claim you weren't using any other nick than mcloy?
[06:56] <mcloy> Tm_T after i talk to AlanBell? (acceptable)?
[06:56] <Tm_T> sure
[06:56] <mcloy> thx :)
[06:56] <Tm_T> although it's easier for this process to answer it now I think
[06:56]  * mcloy will surely reply
[06:57] <mcloy> AlanBell yes..
[06:57] <AlanBell> you actually missed several people giving you answers in #ubuntu and didn't acknowledge any of them
[06:58] <mcloy> AlanBell dont remember. may be one answer seemed better than the other. .    but i dont want to go in details. i understand the concepts of chatting fully. after so long time
[06:58] <mcloy> realising why i was penalised twice
[06:58] <elky> You were in fact answered all 3 times you asked in that log.
[06:59] <mcloy> AlanBell fair enough
[06:59] <mcloy> ?
[07:00] <elky> The first your responder disappeared, we can forgive that. You were subsequently responded to by llutz and slart with correct answers. at 8:04 and 8:44 respectively.
[07:01]  * mcloy will definately answer after he has finished with AlanBell
[07:02]  * mcloy will use highligting irc client next time to avoid missing replies
[07:04] <AlanBell> this is a good idea
[07:04] <mcloy> hm
[07:04] <AlanBell> I wasn't aware there were clients that didn't highlit you on your own nick, but maybe there are
[07:04] <mcloy> mirc 6.03
[07:05] <mcloy> theres an option but it seems i cant configure it
[07:05] <mcloy> any ways
[07:05] <mcloy> which channels can you put me back in AlanBell
[07:07] <AlanBell> well I am a bit surprised you don't have an opinion on which is the one that is most appropriate for the question you want to ask
[07:07] <mcloy> ubuntu and ubuntu-server ?
[07:07] <mcloy> or i have the choice for one only?
[07:09] <mcloy> AlanBell ?
[07:09] <AlanBell> I have to go out now, feel free to continue discussing with the other operators for a bit or come back later
[07:09] <mcloy> #ubuntu then.
[07:10] <mcloy> AlanBell its an appeal to council. i have been talking to ops here and i have sent you the response.
[07:10] <mcloy> AlanBell unban me in ubuntu before going. we can talk other things later.
[07:11] <Tm_T> mcloy: what prevents talking them now?
[07:11] <elky> He's already gone.
[07:11] <Tm_T> considering, talking things properly does help being unbanned
[07:12] <mcloy> Tm_T elky now answer to your questions.
[07:12] <mcloy> a minut
[07:12] <elky> I didn't ask questions. I made statements.
[07:12] <mcloy> then response to the stament
[07:12] <mcloy> a minut
[07:13] <elky> I have to go home from the office. Maybe next time.
[07:17] <mcloy> Tm_T i entered with the nick "mcloy" i didnt hide anything. despite i changed to spiritof later. thats my choice.    elki : dont remember. may be one answer seemed better than the other. . i  will use highligting irc client next time to avoid missing replies
[07:18] <Tm_T> mcloy: allright, did anyone explain to you before that ban won't be lifted before it's been discussed?
[07:18] <mcloy> yes
[07:18] <Tm_T> then why did you assume it was removed suddenly?
[07:18] <mcloy> you did. you said you will test me for several months and then think.. to unban me.
[07:19] <mcloy> that was unreasonable to me
[07:19] <mcloy> Tm_T because.  1. it is allowed to repeat after a reasonable interval. i did that. 2.i thought the ban was released. but actually it was my ip changed by my ISP. i didnt knew of. and i was there by my name "mcloy" . not hiding anything or deceiving.
[07:19] <mcloy> sory. because i thought the ban was released. but actually it was my ip changed by my ISP. i didnt knew of. and i was there by my name "mcloy" . not hiding anything or deceiving.
[07:19] <mcloy> Tm_T may i leave ?
[07:22] <Tm_T> mcloy: why did you assume the ban was released?
[07:22] <Tm_T> mcloy: if you do not desire to discuss this matter now, it's ok
[07:24] <mcloy> because i was able to join #ubuntu. thats why
[07:25] <Tm_T> mcloy: allright, for future reference, even if you're able to join some channel, if you know you are/were banned, it would be good to check if you'
[07:25] <Tm_T> re really unbanned
[07:25] <Tm_T> even better, do not try join channel which you are banned until you know you're unbanned
[07:25] <mcloy> Tm_T to be honest . i want to discus. but not pleed . and rub my nose. and honestly by you statment that you will think to unban me after watching several months has given me a bad impression
[07:26] <Tm_T> mcloy: that's my offer
[07:26] <Tm_T> and thus far, much of what I have seen has been borderlining rules or breaking them
[07:27] <mcloy> nice offer
[07:27] <mcloy> may i leave
[07:27] <Tm_T> mcloy: sure
[07:27] <Tm_T> hi fasta, how can we help?
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[15:45] <oCean> rings a bell, not sure
[15:46] <bazhang> yep
[18:35] <ikonia> hello mcloy
[18:36] <mcloy> hi
[18:36] <ikonia> how can we help today ?
[18:36] <mcloy> none at all. i got in a wrong channel :)
[18:36] <mcloy> bye
[18:36] <ikonia> bye
[18:40] <mneptok> that seems to happen quite a bit.
[18:40] <ikonia> like I believed it was the wrong channel
[18:41] <mneptok> that seems to happen quite a bit (x2).
[18:43] <mneptok> i have avoided that person, mostly. respekkt.