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| cnd | good morning | 14:15 |
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| cnd | dandrader, bregma: standups :) | 14:15 |
| dandrader | started working on greedy windows feature for unity compiz | 14:16 |
| bregma | I'm not doing much touch work right now | 14:16 |
| cnd | I'm going to try to get the old utouch-frame code removed, it was blocked on the xorg-gtest include header namespace changes | 14:16 |
| cnd | bregma, ok, does it make sense to end daily standups here? | 14:16 |
| bregma | probably | 14:17 |
| cnd | dandrader and I already do another standup elsewhere | 14:17 |
| cnd | ok | 14:17 |
| dandrader | yeah, I don't see a problem | 14:17 |
| bregma | I still hang around tough, just highlight me if you need me | 14:17 |
| dandrader | RIP utouch daily stand up meetings | 14:17 |
| cnd | yep | 14:17 |
| cnd | :) | 14:17 |
| * bregma cues Carole King music | 14:18 | |
| tvoss | good morning | 14:19 |
| tvoss | back from vacation | 14:19 |
| tvoss | catching up with mail | 14:19 |
| cnd | tvoss, good morning :) | 14:20 |
| * bregma cues marching bad music | 14:21 | |
| Satoris | The standup is dead, long live the standup. | 14:22 |
| dandrader | :) | 14:24 |
| bregma | gods damn it now I have James Taylor's cover of Carole King's "You've Got a friend" running through my head | 14:26 |
| bregma | last time this happened it took days to recover | 14:26 |
| bregma | I don;t even _like_ that music | 14:26 |
| dandrader | cnd, I need to recognize a double tap with 3 fingers. should the application do it or should grail do it? | 14:45 |
| dandrader | (double-tap recognition) | 14:45 |
| cnd | dandrader, grail can't detect a double-tap | 14:46 |
| cnd | the application needs to do the detection like double-click detection | 14:46 |
| dandrader | cnd, you mean that applications do the double-click recognition themselves and not the toolkit? | 14:47 |
| cnd | dandrader, the toolkit does, yes | 14:48 |
| cnd | so here, nux could have double-tap recognition | 14:48 |
| dandrader | ah, good idea | 14:48 |
| cnd | it should be a simple timer setup | 14:48 |
| dandrader | it's simple, that's for sure | 14:49 |
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| cnd | dandrader|lunch, if you get a minute, please review https://code.launchpad.net/~chasedouglas/utouch-frame/remove-v1/+merge/110880 | 18:23 |
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| dandrader | cnd, on it now | 18:54 |
| cnd | thanks | 18:54 |
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| cnd | dandrader|afk, bregma, fyi, ginn has been removed from the desktop seed for quantal | 20:56 |
| cnd | it should be off the isos after a the meta-packages are updated | 20:56 |
| cnd | and demoted to universe | 20:56 |
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| dandrader | cnd, ok | 21:01 |
| dreamon | Hello. Want to use utouch for ubuntu 12.04. hardware is a wetab-tablet pc. added ppa:utouch-team/utouch and installed utouch. but nothing cant see any usage. | 21:02 |
| dreamon | can anyone help me? | 21:06 |
| dandrader | dreamon, you don't have to install utouch from the ppa. Ubuntu 12.04 already has it | 21:08 |
| dreamon | ohhhh | 21:08 |
| dreamon | what can I do to make it work. want 2finger scrolling.. and right click by touch.. and sizing windows. | 21:10 |
| dandrader | dreamon, have you seen this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/ | 21:10 |
| dreamon | on 11.10 I used twofing. | 21:10 |
| dandrader | dreamon, also, have you checked your settings in "System Settings" -> "Mouse and touchpad" -> Touchpad tab | 21:11 |
| dreamon | yes I did. but dont now how to handle it | 21:12 |
| dandrader | dreamon, ah, you want two-finger scrolling with you touchscreen, not a touchpad, right? | 21:12 |
| dreamon | there is no touchpad tab, only a mouse tab | 21:12 |
| dreamon | right not touchpad.. I use a tablet pc | 21:12 |
| dandrader | ok, then I don't really know the status of this, but I think that will depend on what toolkit each application uses and whether that toolkit (gtk, qt, etc) has this 2-finger scrolling implemented. | 21:15 |
| dreamon | hmm.. twofing worked on every application.. | 21:16 |
| dandrader | for trackpads, yes | 21:16 |
| dandrader | because it's done by the synaptics driver in the X server | 21:16 |
| dandrader | but for touch events coming from a touch screen, those touches go directly to the applications and then it's up to the apps to decide what they wanna do with it | 21:18 |
| dandrader | those apps can use, for instance, utouch-geis to derive gestures from those touches | 21:18 |
| dreamon | how can I test if utouch work ? | 21:20 |
| dandrader | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Testing | 21:21 |
| dandrader | notice that 3 and 4 finger gestures are consumed by Unity (the window manager) | 21:21 |
| dandrader | so on your tests (if you're running Unity as your wm), you will be able to get only 2-touch gestures | 21:22 |
| dandrader | dreamon, if a 4-fingers tap brings up unity's dash it means utouch is working on your tablet | 21:22 |
| dandrader | or if you can move windows using 3 fingers | 21:23 |
| dreamon | started geisview any touch brings only a lot off 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0 | 21:23 |
| dreamon | http://www.wetab.eas-impact.de/index.php?site=forum_topic&topic=7&ws_session=c5112090f3445d30e093c9522117b151 | 21:24 |
| dreamon | This guy tould it would work. | 21:24 |
| dandrader | well, I can't read german. but that was late 2010. no need to add ppas by now | 21:25 |
| dreamon | He told to install package hid-dkms and hid-egalax-dkms | 21:26 |
| dreamon | but could not find it. | 21:26 |
| dandrader | dreamon, one thing is switching to a virtual terminal (ctlr + alt + f1) and using "xinput test ..." to see if you're getting proper touch events out of your x server | 21:27 |
| dreamon | (ctrl+alt+f1) -> xinput test brigt unable to connect to server | 21:29 |
| dreamon | brigt brings. | 21:29 |
| dandrader | export DISPLAY=:0.0 | 21:31 |
| dreamon | Ok. what parameter needs xinput? | 21:33 |
| dandrader | actually nevermind :) , xinput won't get any output from a within vt, you gotta do it from a regular terminal emulator | 21:34 |
| dreamon | sry.. my english is not as good as it should be.. ;) | 21:36 |
| dreamon | Ok so I will go back to ctrl alt f7 and go in terminal | 21:36 |
| dreamon | xinput list -> eGalax Inc. USB TouchController id=9 | 21:43 |
| dreamon | may this help? | 21:43 |
| dandrader | the general idea is to first identify what's your multitouch device and then to "xinput test-xi2 [ID]" | 21:51 |
| dandrader | then you lay 3 fingers on the screen | 21:51 |
| dandrader | you will get a lot of output | 21:51 |
| dandrader | and would check if you got a "touch begin" and a "touch end" for three different touches | 21:52 |
| dandrader | the "detail" property is the unique touch id | 21:52 |
| dreamon | use ID 9 .. and there is a lot of data scrolling.. when I touch the display | 21:52 |
| dandrader | so that you known that your device is really sending a stream of touch events for each individual finger you laid on the screen | 21:53 |
| dandrader | but browsing through that huge stream of data can be a pain | 21:53 |
| dandrader | if that's ok then the problem really is in the applications side (i.e. what gui toolkits do with those touch events) | 21:54 |
| dreamon | i touch with one finger.. can see a begin update and end. | 21:54 |
| dandrader | but if the xinput test-xi2 check is successful gestures in Unity really should work. | 21:55 |
| dreamon | no touch again one finger.. see begin update.. and now touching with second finger.. it scrolls again. But cant read anymore.. its to fast | 21:55 |
| dreamon | I'm not sure if he is notice the second finger.. I think the mousepointer is simply jumping between both positions | 21:57 |
| dandrader | dreamon, the mouse pointer is one thing, the touch events are another | 22:11 |
| dreamon | It dont work. the second finger is not recognized as an other finger. | 22:13 |
| dreamon | think we should stop for today. it really late and stormy weather comes up. | 22:15 |
| dandrader | dreamon, ok then the problem is that your touchscreen hardware is either not multitouch capable or its linux driver doesn't have multitouch support | 22:15 |
| dandrader | sure | 22:16 |
| dreamon | some guy wrote there is a driver called : eGTouch_v1.01.1014.L-x.tar.gz | 22:18 |
| dreamon | tomorrow I will give it a another try. | 22:18 |
| dreamon | Thanks a lot for your help. | 22:18 |
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