=== MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:15] good morning [14:15] dandrader, bregma: standups :) [14:16] started working on greedy windows feature for unity compiz [14:16] I'm not doing much touch work right now [14:16] I'm going to try to get the old utouch-frame code removed, it was blocked on the xorg-gtest include header namespace changes [14:16] bregma, ok, does it make sense to end daily standups here? [14:17] probably [14:17] dandrader and I already do another standup elsewhere [14:17] ok [14:17] yeah, I don't see a problem [14:17] I still hang around tough, just highlight me if you need me [14:17] RIP utouch daily stand up meetings [14:17] yep [14:17] :) [14:18] * bregma cues Carole King music [14:19] good morning [14:19] back from vacation [14:19] catching up with mail [14:20] tvoss, good morning :) [14:21] * bregma cues marching bad music [14:22] The standup is dead, long live the standup. [14:24] :) [14:26] gods damn it now I have James Taylor's cover of Carole King's "You've Got a friend" running through my head [14:26] last time this happened it took days to recover [14:26] I don;t even _like_ that music [14:45] cnd, I need to recognize a double tap with 3 fingers. should the application do it or should grail do it? [14:45] (double-tap recognition) [14:46] dandrader, grail can't detect a double-tap [14:46] the application needs to do the detection like double-click detection [14:47] cnd, you mean that applications do the double-click recognition themselves and not the toolkit? [14:48] dandrader, the toolkit does, yes [14:48] so here, nux could have double-tap recognition [14:48] ah, good idea [14:48] it should be a simple timer setup [14:49] it's simple, that's for sure === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === gustavold1 is now known as gustavold === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [18:23] dandrader|lunch, if you get a minute, please review https://code.launchpad.net/~chasedouglas/utouch-frame/remove-v1/+merge/110880 === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [18:54] cnd, on it now [18:54] thanks === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [20:56] dandrader|afk, bregma, fyi, ginn has been removed from the desktop seed for quantal [20:56] it should be off the isos after a the meta-packages are updated [20:56] and demoted to universe === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [21:01] cnd, ok [21:02] Hello. Want to use utouch for ubuntu 12.04. hardware is a wetab-tablet pc. added ppa:utouch-team/utouch and installed utouch. but nothing cant see any usage. [21:06] can anyone help me? [21:08] dreamon, you don't have to install utouch from the ppa. Ubuntu 12.04 already has it [21:08] ohhhh [21:10] what can I do to make it work. want 2finger scrolling.. and right click by touch.. and sizing windows. [21:10] dreamon, have you seen this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/ [21:10] on 11.10 I used twofing. [21:11] dreamon, also, have you checked your settings in "System Settings" -> "Mouse and touchpad" -> Touchpad tab [21:12] yes I did. but dont now how to handle it [21:12] dreamon, ah, you want two-finger scrolling with you touchscreen, not a touchpad, right? [21:12] there is no touchpad tab, only a mouse tab [21:12] right not touchpad.. I use a tablet pc [21:15] ok, then I don't really know the status of this, but I think that will depend on what toolkit each application uses and whether that toolkit (gtk, qt, etc) has this 2-finger scrolling implemented. [21:16] hmm.. twofing worked on every application.. [21:16] for trackpads, yes [21:16] because it's done by the synaptics driver in the X server [21:18] but for touch events coming from a touch screen, those touches go directly to the applications and then it's up to the apps to decide what they wanna do with it [21:18] those apps can use, for instance, utouch-geis to derive gestures from those touches [21:20] how can I test if utouch work ? [21:21] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Testing [21:21] notice that 3 and 4 finger gestures are consumed by Unity (the window manager) [21:22] so on your tests (if you're running Unity as your wm), you will be able to get only 2-touch gestures [21:22] dreamon, if a 4-fingers tap brings up unity's dash it means utouch is working on your tablet [21:23] or if you can move windows using 3 fingers [21:23] started geisview any touch brings only a lot off 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0 [21:24] http://www.wetab.eas-impact.de/index.php?site=forum_topic&topic=7&ws_session=c5112090f3445d30e093c9522117b151 [21:24] This guy tould it would work. [21:25] well, I can't read german. but that was late 2010. no need to add ppas by now [21:26] He told to install package hid-dkms and hid-egalax-dkms [21:26] but could not find it. [21:27] dreamon, one thing is switching to a virtual terminal (ctlr + alt + f1) and using "xinput test ..." to see if you're getting proper touch events out of your x server [21:29] (ctrl+alt+f1) -> xinput test brigt unable to connect to server [21:29] brigt brings. [21:31] export DISPLAY=:0.0 [21:33] Ok. what parameter needs xinput? [21:34] actually nevermind :) , xinput won't get any output from a within vt, you gotta do it from a regular terminal emulator [21:36] sry.. my english is not as good as it should be.. ;) [21:36] Ok so I will go back to ctrl alt f7 and go in terminal [21:43] xinput list -> eGalax Inc. USB TouchController id=9 [21:43] may this help? [21:51] the general idea is to first identify what's your multitouch device and then to "xinput test-xi2 [ID]" [21:51] then you lay 3 fingers on the screen [21:51] you will get a lot of output [21:52] and would check if you got a "touch begin" and a "touch end" for three different touches [21:52] the "detail" property is the unique touch id [21:52] use ID 9 .. and there is a lot of data scrolling.. when I touch the display [21:53] so that you known that your device is really sending a stream of touch events for each individual finger you laid on the screen [21:53] but browsing through that huge stream of data can be a pain [21:54] if that's ok then the problem really is in the applications side (i.e. what gui toolkits do with those touch events) [21:54] i touch with one finger.. can see a begin update and end. [21:55] but if the xinput test-xi2 check is successful gestures in Unity really should work. [21:55] no touch again one finger.. see begin update.. and now touching with second finger.. it scrolls again. But cant read anymore.. its to fast [21:57] I'm not sure if he is notice the second finger.. I think the mousepointer is simply jumping between both positions [22:11] dreamon, the mouse pointer is one thing, the touch events are another [22:13] It dont work. the second finger is not recognized as an other finger. [22:15] think we should stop for today. it really late and stormy weather comes up. [22:15] dreamon, ok then the problem is that your touchscreen hardware is either not multitouch capable or its linux driver doesn't have multitouch support [22:16] sure [22:18] some guy wrote there is a driver called : eGTouch_v1.01.1014.L-x.tar.gz [22:18] tomorrow I will give it a another try. [22:18] Thanks a lot for your help.