[00:00] <OerHeks> Cups had some updates since release 12.04.
[00:00] <Farlin> So I am guessing no one knows and/or has run into a reboot occurring in 12.04 LTS after it goes idle? Power management settings are all set to off.
[00:00] <Azag> Relondo: I think that don't help
[00:00] <Azag> I can't start "in a good way" gnome-shell
[00:00] <shankara> It worked just after installing but, will not work after reboot.
[00:00] <Azag> the panel and border windows don't apper
[00:00] <shankara> please wait I will tell you more
[00:00] <yeats> Farlin: I would recommend looking through the logs in /var/log for any relevant messages
[00:01] <Farlin> yeats: I tried, nothing showing up in the logs at all that would indicate a reason.
[00:03] <silverghost> shankara
[00:03] <silverghost> c my msg
[00:04] <Flavaln> does this channel kick trolls?
[00:04] <Farlin> one would hope
[00:04] <shankara> ok, back, sorry for the delay.
[00:04] <Yankees52> why the hell is ubuntu using unity?
[00:04] <silverghost> hey shankara c my msg :)
[00:05] <shankara> It did not work after reboot
[00:05] <smw> Yankees52, do you expect a constructive answer here?
[00:05] <Flavaln> Yankees52, because tablets.
[00:05] <silverghost> yaa
[00:05] <shankara> where? silverghost? please wait I will search
[00:05] <silverghost> click my boks
[00:05] <Yankees52> i want gnome 2 back
[00:05] <yeats> !ops | silverghost
[00:05] <DAT> i downloaded minitube but it has a problem about missing plug for MRL, ant help here?
[00:05] <smw> Yankees52, because Mark Shuttleworth  wanted it
[00:05] <OerHeks> !nounity | Yankees52
[00:05] <Yankees52> how do i get gnome 2 back?
[00:06] <silverghost> gnome 2 is dead dude use mate or cinnamon
[00:06] <Yankees52> mate?
[00:06] <OerHeks> Yankees52, not. gnome2 is dead.
[00:06] <smw> Yankees52, mate is a gnome2 fork
[00:06] <yeats> Farlin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/116633/why-does-my-computer-randomly-shut-down
[00:06] <usr13> is there a better Music CD software than Exaile?  (OS=10.04LTS)
[00:06] <Yankees52> oh
[00:07] <silverghost> clementine better than eksaile :D
[00:07] <Yankees52> unity is cancer in such it has totally destroyed my ubuntu experience, might switch to kde
[00:07] <usr13> Or, do I get a better one with upgrade to 12.04?  (If so, what is it?)
[00:07] <Farlin> yeats: I would think it would be a hardware issue with the exception that it only occurs when the system is idle. I would think it was a power management issue, but those are all disabled.
[00:07] <Myrtti> Yankees52: godspeed and good luck.
[00:07] <Yankees52> unity = windows 8 metro =(
[00:07] <zykotick9> usr13: music players are a personal preference.  me i like moc (aka mocp) but i doubt many would...
[00:07] <JanC> usr13: "better" is personal opinion, of course
[00:07] <usr13> Yankees52: xubuntu is good.
[00:07] <Myrtti> Yankees52: please keep to Ubuntu support.
[00:07] <Yankees52> ok
[00:07] <yeats> Farlin: could be firmware-related?
[00:07] <smw> Yankees52, hay! Don't knock metro like that
[00:07] <JanC> usr13: personally, I use quodlibet
[00:08] <Yankees52> you niggas give support for kde here?
[00:08] <usr13> A CD player that is more user friendly, (I'm asking for a friend.)
[00:08] <silverghost> windows 8 is a good improvement over windows 7 :)
[00:08] <smw> Yankees52, anyways, xubuntu is not bad
[00:08] <Flavaln> well that's one troll down
[00:08] <silverghost> try audacious :D
[00:08] <usr13> I personally dont play music CDs on my computer, but have a friend that does.
[00:08] <Brewster> um hi guys I have a possible emergency
[00:08] <Brewster> but I don
[00:08] <Brewster> t know for sure
[00:08] <Flavaln> Brewster, might I suggest 911?
[00:08] <Brewster> oops
[00:09] <usr13> silverghost: Does audacious play when you pop the CD in?  (That's what she wants.)
[00:09] <Brewster> no computer emergency
[00:09] <Farlin> yeats: Not sure what firmware I'd be looking into updating, BIOS is latest. While I am using the system it runs great, but if I walk away for an extended period it reboots.
[00:09] <L3top> !enter | Brewster
[00:09] <usr13> She wants simple/easy
[00:09] <Brewster> I think I may have some sort of linux malware
[00:09] <yeats> Farlin: are you able to monitor temperature, etc?
[00:09] <L3top> !details | Brewster
[00:09] <silverghost> hey clementine is the best music player
[00:09] <Brewster> ok
[00:09] <Farlin> yeats: Yes, no alarms on temp, no hiked CPU or anything like that.
[00:10] <Flavaln> Farlin, GPU temp?
[00:10] <yeats> Farlin: okay - I'm tapped out then :-/
[00:10] <JanC> usr13: I have all (well, most of) my CDs in the attic...
[00:10] <Farlin> No temp issues at all, I can verify with 100% certainty the system is running cool even at max output. I also have a full time UPS on the system.
[00:11] <Brewster> I think I have some sort of linux malware. However it is weird because I have not installed anything outside the software center. I believe it is a process called whoopsie but I can't google it because it messed with my browser somehow
[00:11] <Flavaln> yeats probably asked you this, but did you check the logs carefully?
[00:11] <silverghost> usr 13 what desktop environment is she using ?
[00:11] <Farlin> Yes, did a full review line by line trying to find something. It just seems to want to shutdown after idle time despite my power management settings being off.
[00:12] <Flavaln> Well there doesn't seem to be anyone here with an answer right now, maybe askubuntu.com?
[00:12] <OerHeks> Brewster, how do you know this process is called whoopsie?
[00:12] <D[4]ni> for some reason, aptitude wants to install thunderbird and firefox locales (i don't have these programs installed) and remove wine. O_o
[00:12] <Frank3> Hello all
[00:13] <Farlin> Flavaln: Guess so, thanks for trying though! :)
[00:13] <JanC> usr13: I think sound-juicer, rhythmbox or banshee all can do that, to some degree (there might be more dedicated apps too)
[00:13] <OerHeks> Brewster, whoopsie is a harmless "Ubuntu Error Reporting" daemon
[00:13] <Trian3> Hello all
[00:13] <Brewster> OerHeks: because I looked in system monitor and I looked for suspicious processes. I have never seen the process whoopsie nor have I created a user called whoopsie, which is the username that ran the program
[00:13] <silverghost> clementine owns banshee rhythmboks soun juicer lol
[00:13] <D[4]ni> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046474/ <- this stuff is kinda strange...
[00:13] <JanC> usr13: can't exaile do that too ?
[00:14] <L3top> Brewster: whoopsie - Ubuntu crash database submission daemon
[00:14] <Brewster> ty
[00:14] <D[4]ni> it also wants to install an old kernel.
[00:14] <yeats> !info whoopsie
[00:14] <Frank3> anyone have issues with getting their networking to work properly?
[00:14] <Brewster> I can safely assume it isnt that then
[00:14] <Frank3> wireless network that is
[00:14] <Frank3> ever since the new network manager i can't get connected through wireless
[00:15] <Flavaln> Frank3, sure. It all depends on your hardware.
[00:15] <L3top> Correct Brewster. I would look through /var/log/syslog and dmesg for clues as to what is crashing.
[00:15] <Trian3> I'm having trouble installing Flash.  Upon trying to install it via Adobe's site, I get the error, "protocol (apt) isn't associated with any program"  Further, if you go to Preferences/Applications, there's no content Type associated with the apt.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[00:15] <OerHeks> Brewster, yes, stop the service and deinstall
[00:15] <JanC> usr13: it might be useful to know what she uses now and why it doesn't work..
[00:15] <Trian3> This is FF, btw
[00:15] <Brewster> but it has something to do with chrome. Whenever I start it, shortly after my wireless will disconnect and then reconnect. I checked my network and everything. It started happening when I installed this dislike plugin
[00:15] <L3top> Trian3: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[00:16] <Flavaln> yeats, well I'll be. The alt install live USB I created via linux actually seems to be working. After 20+ tries this appears to be the fix.
[00:16] <Frank3> i could post the hardware info if you guys like
[00:16] <Trian3> L3top: It's already installed.
[00:16] <yeats> Flavaln: heh
[00:16] <Trian3> L3top: But not correctly, it seems.
[00:16] <msdaisy> Trian3, you can try the plugin Flash-Aid. It will install the proper flash for your hardware
[00:17] <steve973> hi.  it looks like my ssh session that was doing a do-release-upgrade has disconnected.  Can I reconnect to the upgrade process?  I have no idea if it's running or not.
[00:17] <L3top> Trian3: sudo apt-get install --reinstall flasphlugin-installer
[00:17] <D[4]ni> could someone please tell me why aptitude wants to install an old kernel, locales for programs i don't even have installed, and remove wine and a bunch of i386 libraries?
[00:17] <lalaland1125> Just upgraded my old eee pc laptop to 12.04 today(clean install) and I started seeing many "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error.", with the details pointing to some xserver-xorg-video-intel "GPU lockup" something.
[00:17] <L3top> Trian3: You will not need to try and install it from adobe at all.
[00:17] <Frank3> here is the wireless adapter that i have:  Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG [Calexico2]
[00:17] <Tiktalik> hey, so
[00:17] <lalaland1125> Any suggestions on what to try next. Nothing visually looks off.
[00:17] <yeats> steve973: you really want to use 'screen' when doing that thing over ssh
[00:17] <Trian3> L3top: Trying reinstallation now.
[00:17] <Frank3> it uses ipw2200 driver
[00:18] <Brewster> Oh I have one more question.
[00:18] <Tiktalik> when I start my PC, it hangs on "Waiting for network configuration"
[00:18] <steve973> yeats, ps tells me that there are screen sessions but I cannot see them
[00:18] <Tiktalik> then it displays "Waiting 60 more seconds for network configuration" (I think that was it0
[00:18] <yeats> steve973: do 'screen -r' for a list
[00:18] <steve973> never mind, I see it :)
[00:18] <Brewster> for some reason there are really big issues with flash player and webcams in linux
[00:18] <Tiktalik> after 60 more seconds, it starts
[00:18] <OerHeks> D[4]ni, your aptitude -f, why was that ? you must have installed or added somethong ?
[00:18] <zykotick9> yeats: "screen -ls" for a list -r is reconnect
[00:18] <Tiktalik> and I have to start network-manager manually
[00:18] <yeats> zykotick9: yes - my mistake
[00:19] <D[4]ni> OerHeks: my packages already seem to be broken like that for weeks
[00:19] <L3top> lalaland1125: Not seen that before, you might try installing the accelleration package i965-va-driver
[00:19] <Brewster> does anyone have a good solution? I have tried everything short of recompiling my kernel with special software that 'might' fix the problem
[00:19] <D[4]ni> OerHeks: until now, i just avoided aptitude
[00:19] <L3top> there are lots of big issues with flash in general and linux.
[00:19] <steve973> yeats, I can't reattach it.  it is, apparently, already attached.  but of course it isn't :)
[00:20] <OerHeks> D[4]ni, espeak:i386 1.46.02-0ubuntu1 espeak-data:amd64 1.46.02-0ubuntu1 caused this, from a PPA?
[00:20] <Trian3> L3top: It appears to be working now.  Thanks!
[00:20] <Brewster> alright
[00:20] <Brewster> well thanks for your help
[00:20] <yeats> steve973: try 'screen -RaAd'
[00:20] <D[4]ni> OerHeks: i don't know that package
[00:20] <Tiktalik> While booting, my computer hangs at "Waiting for network configuration" (I think), and network-config won't start automatically
[00:20] <Tiktalik> err, network-manager, not network-config
[00:20] <steve973> yeats, thanks!  that did it!
[00:20] <yeats> steve973: great
[00:21] <Tiktalik> How do I make network-manager start automatically
[00:21] <yharrow> who has experience with building drivers from src?
[00:22] <D[4]ni> OerHeks: $ LANGUAGE=en sudo aptitude remove espeak:i386
[00:22] <D[4]ni> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[00:22] <yharrow> anybody have experience building drivers from source?
[00:22] <OerHeks> yharrow, usually there is a readme with guidance.
[00:22] <Jordan_U> D[4]ni: Try apt-get. aptitude has known issues with multiarch.
[00:22] <yharrow> oereks i read it to the letter but i have an error
[00:23] <yharrow> and i cant figure it out cuz i have no idea what the error codes mean
[00:23] <yharrow> its like looking at another language
[00:23] <Frank3> i am sorry guys did someone send me info regarding my issue?
[00:23] <OerHeks> yharrow, use paste.ubuntu.com for the output
[00:25] <Frank3> is there a current issue with network manager?
[00:25] <yharrow> @OerHeks http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046481/
[00:25] <Tiktalik> how do I make the network-manager daemon start automatically
[00:25] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: if "known issues" inclues doesn't support ;)
[00:26] <yharrow> Oerheks i read some forum post that suggested that its installing to the wrong directory
[00:26] <OerHeks> Frank3, i see a unconfirmed bugreport >> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/197939
[00:27] <OerHeks> yharrow, why not use the driver tru the menu ?
[00:27] <yharrow> what menu
[00:28] <ratcheer> Tiktalik: Is it controlled by Upstart?
[00:28] <Tiktalik> ratcheer: I believe so
[00:29] <yharrow> I have an nvidia card that uses optimus and apparently its a bitch to get it to work. I have to use bumblebee or something and I been trying for close to 24 hours
[00:29] <ratcheer> Tiktalik: Hold on a minute...
[00:29] <yharrow> nothing seems to work and im basically trying anything at this point
[00:29] <yharrow> because nobody here can help me either
[00:30] <yharrow> Oerheks i have a feeling that ive messed around so much i probably need to reinstall ubuntu
[00:30] <yharrow> and start over
[00:30] <OerHeks> yharrow, ah optimus, use this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee , and there is a #bumblebee channel here on freenode
[00:30] <yharrow> i been using bumblebee but i cant get it to work
[00:31] <yharrow> i guess i will try their channel
[00:31] <OerHeks> those guys are up2date
[00:31] <yharrow> just usually dev channels are empty
[00:31] <steve973> what is bumblebee
[00:31] <Flavaln> so I just installed Ubu 12.04 with a boot and encrypted partition using the alt installer. Finished, rebooted, now at "grub rescue>" prompt
[00:32] <Flavaln> Can I fix this, or figure out why it happened?
[00:32] <yharrow> Oerheks the truth is though that i now have a nvidia driver which is half installed
[00:32] <OerHeks> steve973, bumblebee is the Nvidia optimus solution.
[00:32] <skyl> how do I figure out which version of portaudio I have
[00:32] <yharrow> and im afraid it will screw up my system
[00:32] <yharrow> i cant get it to finish compiling
[00:32] <yharrow> and i dont know how to remove it
[00:33] <steve973> if it hasn't compiled fully, it's not even partially installed.
[00:33] <yharrow> but it spit out alot of stuff
[00:33] <OerHeks> True.
[00:33] <yharrow> and then it exited with the code i pasted
[00:33] <yharrow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046481/
[00:34] <yharrow> so the answer is u cant c ompile nvidia for ubuntu?
[00:34] <msdaisy> How can you tell in the terminal whether a file is mounted or not?  This is on a server with no gui
[00:34] <zykotick9> skyl: try "apt-cache policy libportaudio0" and "apt-cache policy libportaudio2"
[00:34] <steve973> yharrow, does the user that is compiling this package have the proper permissions to access the file?
[00:34] <yharrow> yes
[00:34] <yharrow> i ran all with sudo
[00:34] <Flavaln> what does mounting a file even mean?
[00:34] <yharrow> and without sudo
[00:35] <zykotick9> msdaisy: file?  do you mean partition?  "mount" will show what is mounted.
[00:35] <yharrow> permissions dont seem to matter
[00:36] <steve973> yharrow, if it is this problematic, perhaps you could stand up a vm to test this stuff out until you get it resolved.
[00:36] <yharrow> how wil a VM help?
[00:36] <Flavaln> Any idea why my install ended up with "grub rescue" prompt?
[00:36] <steve973> meaning that you could try to resolve the compilation issues within a VM.
[00:36] <steve973> well you won't be messing up your real install
[00:37] <yharrow> as long as i can undo the dmg i dont care
[00:37] <ratcheer> Tiktalik: Try running "sudo initctl show-config networkmanager"
[00:37] <yharrow> all i need to do is install a console browser and irc
[00:37] <yharrow> so if my x crashes
[00:37] <yharrow> i can still get online fro help
[00:38] <steve973> if i wasn't in the middle of a release upgrade, I'd download it and try to compile it myself
[00:38] <yharrow> i appreciate the help
[00:38] <yharrow> but i dont think iit would help until u finished anyway
[00:38] <steve973> for the file that it cannot find, is that file in fact where it's looking?
[00:38] <yharrow> cuz i have a feeling this is an issue with 12.04
[00:39] <yharrow> steve I think the compile issue has to do with a directory error
[00:39] <yharrow> but i cant figure it out
[00:39] <steve973> what is your installation command and what is your pwd?
[00:40] <pikkachu> why can't I hear the usual sign in sound?
[00:40] <pikkachu> was it removed from Precise?
[00:40] <L3top> yharrow: Please try and keep your comments to one line. I have to backscroll for pages to try and figure out what your issue is because you hit enter every 4 words.
[00:40] <Tiktalik> ratcheer: And then?
[00:41] <yharrow> ok so it seems its a simple copy error
[00:41] <yharrow> the png does not exist
[00:41] <yharrow> at that address
[00:41] <ratcheer> Tiktalik: It should show you when the job starts and stops.
[00:41] <L3top> !enter | yharrow
[00:41] <steve973> yharrow, please tell me what your command is to run the compilation and from what directory
[00:41] <Tiktalik> ratcheer:  start on ((local-filesystems and started dbus) and static-network-up)  stop on stopping dbus
[00:42] <yharrow> steve973 its "sysadmin@NPCU:~/nvidia-src/nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates-295.49$ sudo dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc
[00:42] <ratcheer> Tiktalik: Yes. It SHOULD be starting automatically, now.
[00:42] <yharrow> "
[00:42] <KorvinSzanto> hey, all of my youtube videos have a blue tint on them
[00:43] <KorvinSzanto> all of the flash ones
[00:43] <Tiktalik> ratcheer: So..uh, it should start automatically but it doesn't?
[00:43] <steve973> so i am not that familiar with buildpackage, but is that the proper command to build your nvidia driver?
[00:44] <matreya6> I' m trying to setup 12.04 using lvm, including root /, The alternate installer does not let me write the config, because the mountpoints somehow get lost when introducing LVM. As a result there is no / partition anymore that the system can see. Very frustrating. How can I include the root directory on LVM and go ahead with my intended setup?
[00:44] <yharrow> i have no idea
[00:44] <yharrow> i just follwoed a guide
[00:44] <yharrow> im so lost atm
[00:44] <yharrow> sorry for all the enters
[00:45] <steve973> yarrow I think that unless it's a debian/ubuntu source package, you don't want to do that.
[00:45] <yharrow> ok well i cant tell if it is
[00:45] <steve973> can you run ".configure" in that directory?
[00:45] <steve973> "./configure"
[00:45] <steve973> then "make && make install"
[00:45] <steve973> or look at the read me that should tell you how to build it.
[00:45] <yharrow> no such file or directory
[00:45] <Flavaln> When partitioning to install, should I use an EFIboot partition or just an EXT4 /boot partition?
[00:46] <ratcheer> Tiktalik: Yes. Could it be failing when Upstart tries to start it?
[00:46] <matreya6> Flavaln, what kind of system are you setting up, a Mac or a PC?
[00:46] <Jordan_U> Flavaln: The EFI System Partition and the /boot/ directory (whether on a separate partition or not) are two very different things.
[00:46] <Flavaln> Pc
[00:47] <Flavaln> I'm not really sure what the EFI partition is for, google isn't overly helpful
[00:47] <Jordan_U> Flavaln: Does your PC even have UEFI?
[00:47] <Flavaln> yes
[00:47] <matreya6> Flavaln, do you want to use an old Windows(prior to Vista) / or even DOS?
[00:47] <Flavaln> I won't multi boot with this HDD
[00:47] <yharrow> steve no make file found
[00:47] <L3top> KorvinSzanto: This is a flash bug. Check http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue
[00:47] <Jordan_U> Flavaln: Does your PC have an option of using the BIOS interface instead?
[00:48] <Flavaln> yes, it does
[00:48] <Jordan_U> Flavaln: Then I would highly recommend that you use that for Ubuntu.
[00:48] <Tiktalik> ratcheer: Probably. When my system starts, it says "Waiting for network configuration", then eventually "Waiting 60 more seconds for network configuration", or something like that
[00:48] <steve973> yarrow why don't you read a README.  it probably has instructions
[00:48] <matreya6> Jordan_U, why would you recommend that? UEFI has some nice features.
[00:49] <Flavaln> okay, thank you. Is the proper partition for an encrypted system as follows? ext4 /boot partition, partition as physical partition for encryption containing a partition mounted to / ?
[00:49] <ratcheer> Does it successfully start, manually? And, how are you starting it?
[00:49] <Jordan_U> matreya6: Because most linux graphics drivers currently have issues when booting without a BIOS interface, and I don't see many practical advantages to UEFI.
[00:50] <escott> Flavaln, yes a /boot and a / is needed for full disk encryption
[00:50] <nUwb> Hello everyone! I am running linux ubuntu on my emachines t3508, but was wondering if there is a better distro for my pc. Any clues or advice?
[00:50] <matreya6> Jordan_U, if you want to use a HDD > 3GB you are required to use UEFI
[00:50] <escott> Jordan_U, UEFI is the only bootloader that could run an email client
[00:50] <Flavaln> Well I'll probably use large HDDs with this install in the future
[00:51] <Jordan_U> matreya6: No, that is completely false. If you want to use a greater than 3 GiB drive to boot *Windows* you need UEFI. GRUB2 and Linux support GPT just fine with BIOS.
[00:51] <escott> matreya6, you are required to use GPT. nobody except retarded redmond people claim that GPT requires EFI
[00:51] <matreya6> escott, I stand corrected.
[00:51] <ratcheer> escott: +1
[00:51] <Jordan_U> escott: Please don't use "retarded" as a demeaning term.
[00:52] <Flavaln> okay, so what should my parition table look like? It would be nice to be able to boot on older hardware
[00:52] <matreya6> Flavaln, in that case definitely go with BIOS, partition table: msdos.
[00:52] <escott> Jordan_U, would you prefer idiotic. its just as offensive
[00:52] <phthano> Jordan_U: You mean 3TB, right?
[00:53] <nUwb> Hello everyone! I am running linux ubuntu on my emachines t3508, but was wondering if there is a better distro for my pc. Any clues or advice?I only ask because there are better working pc's out there now and mines is just about 6 to 7 years old
[00:53] <Jordan_U> escott: Idiotic is fine.
[00:53] <Jordan_U> phthano: Yes, sorry :)
[00:54] <matreya6> Is there any way to include a / partition in a LVM Volume Group and have Ubuntu 12.04 install to that partition? (the / partition is not within any RAID arrays or encryption barriers)
[00:54] <Jordan_U> nUwb: Are you having any issues with Ubuntu? If it's running slowly then you might prefer Lubuntu, but if it's working well why change it?
[00:54] <escott> !alternate | matreya6
[00:55] <Relondo> Flavaln: When I try to use "chmod +x foldit", it returns "no such file or directory".
[00:55] <matreya6> escott, I' m well aware of the Alternate CD, in fact, that is the one I' m using right now.
[00:55] <Flavaln> Is a swap partition suggested for a system where I don't expect to use it?
[00:55] <nUwb> nUwb: that's exactly it in fact, it runs slow, Lubunut is better?
[00:55] <escott> matreya6, it will support LVM. keep in mind your /boot needs to be outside of the LVM volume (unless grub supports LVM these days)
[00:55] <matreya6> Flavaln, yes, you might run out of memory
[00:55] <nUwb> Jordan_U: that's exactly it in fact, it runs slow, Lubunut is better?
[00:56] <Jordan_U> escott: Grub does support LVM these days :)
[00:56] <Flavaln> matreya6, that's true even with swap ;-) I think I have plenty of RAM
[00:56] <Jordan_U> nUwb: Yes, Lubuntu is much lighter.
[00:56] <Jordan_U> !lubuntu | nUwb
[00:56] <escott> Flavaln, id rather have the swap to absorb a random process that goes nuts than let the OOM killer pick for me, but its up to you
[00:56] <nUwb> Jordan_U:thanks
[00:56] <nUwb> ubottu:thank you
[00:57] <nUwb> lol
[00:57] <nUwb> o.k.
[00:57] <Jordan_U> Flavaln: The alternate install CD specifically has an option for setting up an encrypted root, and it will do all the partitioning for you (a separate /boot/ partition, and a LUKS encrypted physical volume for LVM, containing the root filesystem and swap on top of LVM).
[00:58] <escott> Flavaln, the real advantage to swap is that it slows the system down. it doesnt take an application long to fill your ram entirely if it is backed by ram, but if it is backed by disk you have a chance to notice before it the OOM killer decides for you
[00:58] <Flavaln> Yes, I'm using that right now but I'm not sure that I want swap at all, and thus am not sure that I want LVM at all.
[00:58] <Flavaln> escott, wow slightly hilarious.
[00:58] <matreya6> escott, I' ve got that covered, my /boot is outside LVM, even so, Ubuntu stlll refuses to write the partition table, because it cannot install the "base system"  somehow... Here' s the picture: Drive 1: /home (LVM), Drive2: some NTFS drives, /boot, / (LVM), /opt (LVM), swap (LVM).
[00:59] <shankara> Thank you frieds, bye
[00:59] <Jordan_U> matreya6: Could you provide screenshots (if needed, using a camera)?
[01:00] <matreya6> Jordan_U, I will (with a camera indeed)...Just a moment...
[01:00] <Jordan_U> Flavaln: To be clear, the swap partition only "slows things down" at the point where something is trying to use more RAM than you actually have, where without a swap partition the OOM killer would have already killed something.
[01:01] <yharrow> can someone help me fix my system?
[01:01] <Flavaln> Yes, that's clear
[01:01] <escott> matreya6, so on drive 2 you have an NTFS, then a /boot, then a LVM container and that container is subdivided
[01:01] <daslinkard> Hello room!
[01:01] <usr13> yharrow: What can we do for you?
[01:02] <matreya6> escott, true.
[01:02] <Flavaln> matreya6, I'm doing something similar to you right now except that I am using encryption. I think you need an ext2 /boot partition, and a physical partition for LVM. Then create groups, etc inside the LVM and make one of them /
[01:02] <yharrow> i tried to compile an nvidia driver but it stopped halfway through
[01:02] <daslinkard> I'm having my first issue in which I installed Ubuntu 11.10 on an older compaq desktop for a friend...
[01:02] <yharrow> and im afraid when i reboot my computer will be screwed
[01:02] <daslinkard> I know the PC had 1GB of RAM, 80 GB HD
[01:02] <Flavaln> Take a look at the 'guided' encryption option and look at how that works
[01:02] <escott> matreya6, im not sure why that would be giving you an error, unless your LVM groups aren't large enough
[01:02] <Relondo> When I hibernate, I am shown a few lines of progress (saving/compressing my data), and then the line "SI" displays. After that, nothing happens. The computer doesn't turn off by itself, but if I hold the power button to force-shutdown, I can resume as if hibernate had worked properlyl.
[01:02] <Relondo> *properly
[01:03] <Flavaln> yharrow, if you can't reboot you could always use a live USB key
[01:03] <daslinkard> Whenever we try to display the screensaver we only get words, it is not actually displaying the matrix screensaver
[01:03] <OerHeks> yharrow, when compiling stops for any reason, nothing is changed or installed.
[01:03] <yharrow> Flavaln: i rather just finish compiling
[01:03] <yharrow> OerHeks: oh i didnt know that
[01:03] <Afflicto> Hey all. I have windows 7 and want to install ubuntu (dualboot), however. I have had ubuntu installed before and my boot menu shows me (grub I think its called) where I can choose ubuntu\windows but ubuntu does not load. I think I removed it but its still showing that. So.. is it safe to install ubuntu, or will it mess up boot? (I want to install via the windows installer).
[01:04] <matreya6> Flavaln, My LVM Group "Ubuntu1204"  encompasses my /home, /, swap and /opt, my /boot is 128MB and my / is 240 GB, should be big enough, no?
[01:04] <yharrow> Flavaln: OerHeks i guess i just need to wait until a compiling pro comes on here
[01:04] <Flavaln> Afflicto, I believe it's safe to install Ubuntu AFTER installing windows
[01:04] <yharrow> andthen they can help me
[01:04] <Relondo> Afflicto: Are you getting the grub or the windows bootloader, and do you want a standard install or Wubi?
[01:04] <Afflicto> Wubi I think, yes.
[01:04] <Flavaln> matreya6, so /boot isn't on LVM I assume. Ubuntu installer likes 256 MB for /boot, so maybe that's better. 128 should be enough though.
[01:05] <Relondo> Afflicto: Check your control panel. Is Wubi still under programs?
[01:05] <Afflicto> Relondo: Nope it's not.
[01:05] <matreya6> Afflicto, I can' t recommend Wubi except for trying out Ubuntu.
[01:06] <Relondo> Afflicto: Then I can't imagine why it asks you which to boot to. Is this boot menu purple-tinted? Also, I agree with matreya6.
[01:06] <RastaZebra> ok soo i want to take ubuntu off my laptop and put windows 7. how do i do that.
[01:06] <Afflicto> Relondo: yeah purple.
[01:06] <Tiktalik> ratcheer, it starts manually, also, sudo start network-manager
[01:06] <Flavaln> RastaZebra, do you want to save your documents?
[01:06] <RastaZebra> nahh.
[01:06] <matreya6> Flavaln, I' ll try increasing it to 256MB to see if that works
[01:06] <Flavaln> RastaZebra, then reboot with the Windows 7 install DVD in the drive and install Windows 7.
[01:07] <RastaZebra> actuly im gonna move a few things to a usb
[01:07] <Relondo> Afflicto: That's definitely the grub, then. You must have installed Ubuntu fully before, then. Anyway, at worst, booting to your Ubuntu partition will not work and (further?) wreck your Ubuntu install. Can't hurt the BIOS or anything.
[01:07] <Flavaln> RastaZebra, sure not a bad idea :-)
[01:07] <Relondo> RastaZebra: You might have to delete some partitions. I don't remember if Windows 7 install DVD does that for you.
[01:08] <Afflicto> Relondo: so.. what do I do? I wanna install ubuntu but I still need my windows 7.
[01:08] <Flavaln> Relondo, sure it can do that
[01:08] <IdleOne> if you need help installing windows see ##windoes
[01:08] <daslinkard> Not for sure if my question got lost in the mix of things...I installed Ubuntu 11.10 on a Compaq Desktop running 1GB of RAM with 80GB Hard Drive...everything seemed to install fine....then when I tried to set up the screensaver I get only words on the screen instead of the Matrix screensaver....is there a work around for getting the screensaver and the graphics card working?
[01:08] <IdleOne> err ##windows
[01:08] <Relondo> Afflicto: I'm also running a dual-boot Windows 7 with Ubuntu. I used Wubi shortly to try it out, but you're certain you want a full install?
[01:08] <Relondo> Flavaln: Cool.
[01:09] <Afflicto> Relondo: I dont know what i want XD I want ubuntu and win 7. :P
[01:09] <Relondo> Afflicto: Well, have you used Ubuntu before? Did your first install work?
[01:09] <Flavaln> dashavoo, Ubuntu Desktop or server? Does it boot into X Windows?
[01:09] <Afflicto> Relondo: Yea works fine. long time ago though.
[01:09] <ratcheer> Tiktalik: One thing I'm not sure of: Does the network have to be up before you start networkmanager, or does networkmanager start the network? If it is the former, you could try changing the start on condition to "static-network-up".
[01:10] <Flavaln> Afflicto, normally people install Windows 7 on a partition, then install Ubuntu on another partition, and end up with the grub 2 boot loader which works fine.
[01:10] <Tiktalik> ratcheer: What do you mean
[01:10] <Relondo> Afflicto: Well, then, since you'll want to back up your HDD anyway, do that, boot into Ubuntu, and see if it works. Depending on how long ago you installed it, you might want to just do a fresh install of Precise.
[01:11] <silverghost> hey pple check my pretty ubuntu desktop http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=8484
[01:11] <Relondo> daslinkard: Have you gotten any other screensavers to work?
[01:11] <daslinkard> Relondo: No....and the system is really choppy...which is the 1st time I have ever had this happen
[01:11] <IdleOne> !ot | silverghost
[01:11] <ratcheer> Tiktalik: It sounds like maybe network manager is failing to start properly because it's waiting for the network to be up. But, if that is the problem, you have some other problem too, with your network.
[01:12] <Nom-> Hey guys, trying to establish ... would a GPG Error on /media/cdrom/dists/precise/Release.gpg cause the isntaller to not find any kernels/
[01:12] <Tiktalik> ratcheer: I use network-manager to connect to our Wi-Fi network...
[01:12] <Relondo> daslinkard: You might just have a crappy graphics card. Maybe you should look at wherever you got the screensaver and see if anyone else has the problem?
[01:13] <Flavaln> Nom-, sounds likely to me but I'm not certain
[01:13] <daslinkard> Relondo: I added the xscreensaver from the CLI is where I got the screensaver from
[01:13] <Nom-> The frustrating part is I don't know what I've done wrong yet :/
[01:13] <Flavaln> daslinkard, the matrix screensaver looks like normal text... for those in the matrix.
[01:13] <matreya6> escott, no, the installer keeps whining about the "base system" being undefined.
[01:14] <Relondo> daslinkard:  Are you sure you know what the screensaver is supposed to look like?
[01:14] <yeats> Nom-: do 'sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update', which may help
[01:14] <Nom-> yeats: This is during install... i've got a custom ISO
[01:14] <daslinkard> Relondo: I am positive....I'm running this screen saver on my personal machines....the machine in question
[01:14] <yeats> Nom-: ah - sorry - missed that context
[01:14] <daslinkard> Relondo: is someone from our church looking at adding Ubuntu
[01:15] <Relondo> daslinkard: So you have no idea what  website this screensaver came from, this?
[01:15] <escott> matreya6, i'm afraid i dont know what that means
[01:15] <Relondo> daslinkard: I don't know what church you go to...
[01:15] <Afflicto> Relondo: can I install wubi though again? any chance it might break win 7?
[01:15] <ratcheer> Tiktalik: Ok, just try changing the start on condition in Upstart. But, comment out the old start on code, in case the change doesn't help. So you can go back to the original, if necessary.
[01:16] <daslinkard> Relondo: I got the screensaver from going to my unity bar....typing in screensaver and selecting the matrix
[01:16] <Tiktalik> ratcheer: How do I change it?
[01:16] <NoVoteLoss> when i install something in the terminal, and it has the words "Suggested Packages:" Should i get those as well? or should i look at them and see if it pertaines to my particular needs?
[01:16] <Relondo> Afflicto: Wubi is pretty much incapable of damaging your Windows 7 install. It doesn't create its own partitions, so you can just do that, but Wubi has problems.
[01:16] <ratcheer> It should be by editing a file named /etc/init/networkmanager.conf
[01:16] <silverghost> hey can someone tell me about ubuntu 12.10 features ??
[01:16] <Relondo> daslinkard: Well, by CLI you mean Command Line Interface, right? What you just mentioned is the Ubuntu Software Center.
[01:17] <matreya6> escott, Jordan_U, I'm preparing some screenshots, just a sec...
[01:17] <Relondo> daslinkard: Anyway, go back to the Software Center and click that option on the screensaver that says "Visit the developer's website".
[01:17] <daslinkard> Relondo: I utilized the CLI to install xscreensaver as I have done multiple times without an issue....
[01:18] <daslinkard> Relondo: My question is there a work around for the crappy graphics card....I tried additional drivers but nothing came up....The machine was running XP Pro and I would think the graphics should be better than what I'm getting....I don't see any indicator as to why the machine would be running so choppy
[01:18] <Relondo> daslinkard: Oh, XScreensaver is a large collection of screensavers. That's useful information. And then you used the program itself to select the Matrix screensaver. Okay.
[01:19] <ritztech> So trying to get the Client to connect to the Server via ssh... Sever i have access to view the keys of public,private,authorized keys      .ssh/id_rsa.pub          .ssh/id_rsa           .ssh/authorized_keys   ....  i cant seem to figure out how to get the client to connect    using either an authorized key or the id_rsa.pub from the server
[01:19] <Relondo> daslinkard: So that's the problem? Sorry, I though it was just a screensaver issue. Do you know the name of your graphics card?
[01:19] <daslinkard> Relondo: yes....but I'm having issues with the graphics card....but I don't see why the graphics card would be giving me the issue that it is....
[01:20] <escott> ritztech, "from the server" thats backwards. on the client run "ssh-keygen; ssh-copy-id user@server"
[01:20] <daslinkard> Relondo: I do not...the PC belongs to someone I go to church with....but I believe it is nvidia
[01:20] <Relondo> daslinkard: You probably need a driver. So I will look one up. (Or you can, if you're feeling adventurous).
[01:20] <daslinkard> Relondo: Do you think if I go to the manufacturer's web site I can get a Linux driver?
[01:20] <silverghost> yaa
[01:20] <Relondo> daslinkard: Possibly. Nvidia is much better about drivers than Radeon.
[01:21] <silverghost> yaa
[01:21] <ritztech> i tried to connect via   ssh -v -i  rsakey.key root@x.x.x.x
[01:21] <ratcheer> Tiktalik: Still here? What's going on?
[01:21] <Relondo> daslinkard: Do you still have the Windows XP install?
[01:21] <daslinkard> Relondo: Nope, we dumped Windows for Ubuntu
[01:21] <silverghost> lol
[01:21] <daslinkard> <-----Hates Windows
[01:22] <Relondo> daslinkard: Hm. Do you know the make and model of the computer, then?
[01:22] <silverghost> microsoft > 80 percent marke share lienecks - 1.11 :D
[01:22] <daslinkard> Relondo: I sent a text to my buddy...now I'm waiting on a response from him
[01:22] <Relondo> dislinkard: Let me know :D
[01:23] <Relondo> Personally, I keep my Windows 7 install around because some stuff doesn't work under Wine, and because, frankly, Windows is more stable.
[01:23] <silverghost> hehe
[01:23] <daslinkard> Relondo: Are you familar with the Zac Browser?  It is a browser for autistic children and is designed for XP & Vista....tried running it in WINE but could not get anywhere with it....do you know anything about the browser?
[01:24] <daslinkard> Relondo: The machine is a Compaq Evo D51s
[01:24] <silverghost> zac browser cool eh
[01:25] <RastaZebraa> ok soo i tryed to boot up win 7 and it too mee to a purple screen.
[01:25] <RastaZebraa> *took
[01:26] <silverghost> do u have ubuntu installed
[01:26] <Relondo> daslinkard: The Zac browser has a Platinum rating on the WineHQ website. Should work perfectly.
[01:26] <RastaZebraa> yeah
[01:26] <pandu> MASBUK -____________________________________________-"
[01:26] <RastaZebraa> like im tyin to get ride of ubuntu and instal win 7
[01:27] <silverghost> rebooot insert win 7 dvd :D
[01:27] <RastaZebraa> i shall
[01:27] <silverghost> good choice why did u decide to uninstall ubuntu it is the best os ?
[01:27] <RastaZebraa> im gonna reinstall it when i get win 7 installed.
[01:28] <silverghost> wubi?
[01:28] <matreya6> escott, Jordan_U, the screenshot is in Dutch, but the technical things are obvious enough:
[01:28] <RastaZebraa> i hear that wasnt good to use at all.
[01:28] <RastaZebraa> wasnnt and isnt
[01:28] <silverghost> windows 7 is best why u want to use ubuntu
[01:28] <mputtr> heya, i'm having trouble with synaptic package manager refusing to work.. i would double click it, then it would ask for my password.. then it does nothing
[01:29] <silverghost> lol
[01:29] <crond> mputtr, try running it from console and see if it shows you an error message.
[01:29] <mputtr> ok. let me try that real quick...
[01:30] <Flavaln> would someone just kick silverghost? he's slow motion trolling all day.
[01:31] <silverghost> lol i am not a troll
[01:31] <silverghost> i helped 5 ubuntu users
[01:31] <Flavaln> evidence indicates otherwise
[01:31] <Relondo> daslinkard: So that model has integrated graphics. Maybe try the HP website?
[01:31] <matreya6> escott, Jordan_U, here you are: http://www.tschai.nl/2012-06-18_03-23-11_781.jpg
[01:31] <mputtr> running it from console starts it up...
[01:31] <mputtr> wierd
[01:32] <daslinkard> Relondo: That's what I'm trying now....not seeing a Linux OS selection for the machine though
[01:32] <silverghost> helped that guy with that printer issue u say i am troll lol
[01:32] <Flavaln> lol, not English...
[01:32] <escott> matreya6, ATA device mapper raid. is that fakeraid i see there?
[01:32] <silverghost> don't be mad
[01:33] <matreya6> escott, yes it is. an Intel ICH10R FakeRAID to be precise
[01:33] <pandu> somebody help me to change my netbook's IP address :/
[01:33] <Relondo> daslinkard: I'll take a look, too.
[01:33] <geopsychic> pandu try ifconfig
[01:34] <pandu> how geopsychic ?
[01:34] <Flavaln> pandu, does your setup allow you to just change your IP address? Is your PC connected directly to your ISP router?
[01:34] <matreya6> escott, how I'd wish that I coul install a Dutch system using English during the installation...The translations are a bit off.
[01:35] <Relondo> daslinkard: From what I can tell, there's no Linux drivers for that model.
[01:35] <Relondo> daslinkard: Since it works, but just slowly, maybe you should try Lubuntu.
[01:35] <pandu> -________________-" I dont know Flavaln, how to check it ?
[01:35] <escott> matreya6, the standard admonishment is "don't use fake raid" it looks like you may only be using it for data partitions so it shouldnt affect your boot, but still.
[01:35] <geopsychic> pandu man ifconfig will tell you more than I can here. Look for the eth0/eth1/... sections. Why do you need to change your IP?
[01:36] <escott> matreya6, you could install in english and then install the dutch language pack and change your locale
[01:36] <greggawatt> i had a major issue upgrading, after the upgrade all is got on restart was a blank black screen and a cursor. I can boot into recovery mode just fine, but i only get a root prompt with read only permissions. xstart doesn't do anything
[01:36] <mputtr> soo.... apparently there's a shadow function in nomachine that is prety much vnc...
[01:36] <matreya6> escott, well fake raid is all that fits within my budget for now ;-)
[01:36] <escott> matreya6, use mdadm
[01:36] <mputtr> now i just have to figure out how to log myself in if i restart the system
[01:36] <Flavaln> pandu, I think you're in over your head honestly. Maybe you could explain why you want to change your IP and we could help.
[01:37] <pandu> omaigat T.T
[01:37] <daslinkard> Relondo: how different is lubuntu from ubuntu?
[01:37] <ratcheer> matreya6: Or btrfs or zfs
[01:37] <yharrow> how do i get glx to work on intel
[01:37] <mputtr> now i can't seem to get the dash back.. thanks to some screwing around that i did earlier
[01:37] <geopsychic> mputtr NoMachine's shadow function allows you to join someone else's session. It must be enabled beforehand.
[01:37] <pandu> hey Flavaln ?
[01:37] <escott> matreya6, the other thing im not seeing in that screenshot is where the / partition is defined within the lvm
[01:37] <yharrow> i give up my nvidia optimus card
[01:37] <Relondo> daslinkard: It is just Ubuntu with the LXDE desktop environment.
[01:37] <yharrow> how do i get my intel one to work?
[01:38] <daslinkard> k
[01:38] <yharrow> i have no glx at the moment
[01:38] <escott> matreya6, also why would have have 3 logical lvm partitions on the same disk?
[01:38] <matreya6> escott, you mean Software RAID? That would only be usable from Linux, I use multiple OS'es here, FreeBSD (not shown here, because the disk is not attached), WindowsXP (for older games) and Ubuntu (my main system)
[01:38] <mputtr> geopsychic: i guess it's enabled by default from nomachine server
[01:38] <Relondo> daslinkard: It has the same software capabilities, but a much more lightweight desktop.
[01:38] <yharrow> I have 2 videocards and I can't even get the intel one to work
[01:38] <mputtr> but i screwed some stuff earlier and caused me to lose the original gui that ubuntu came with..
[01:38] <geopsychic> mputtr it isn't on ours.
[01:38] <Relondo> daslinkard: Here: http://lxde.org/
[01:38] <escott> matreya6, but those raid disks are lvm anyways so aren't you already restricted to linux?
[01:39] <escott> matreya6, im not really sure how to read everything im seeing.
[01:39] <mputtr> geopsychic: i have no idea.. all i know was that i still can't restart/shutdown the box via nomachine :(
[01:39] <Relondo> daslinkard: Sorry, but I gotta go. I know I didn't fix the problem, but maybe Lubuntu can help you out. Best of luck!
[01:39] <pandu> Never mind guys
[01:39] <pandu> :P
[01:40] <mputtr> and my login screen is all wiereded out.. it's this silver white scheme that looks liek sunrays fromt he bottom right... i have no idea how to change that back to the old purple color theme
[01:40] <matreya6> escott, no not exactly, the extfsd2 drivers support lvm, even from within Windows.
[01:41] <geopsychic> mputtr does "sudo reboot" give you an error message?
[01:41] <yharrow> does ubuntu suppor tintel cards?
[01:41] <mputtr> nope
[01:41] <yharrow> intel
[01:41] <matreya6> escott, the FreeBSD drivers can also use lvm, just not on BSD native partitions
[01:41] <yharrow> does ubuntu support intel video cards?
[01:41] <Jordan_U> yharrow: Yes, very well.
[01:41] <mputtr> i just couldn't do it via nomachine. i just went to the top right of the screen, select shutdown, then reboot
[01:42] <mputtr> and it just logs me out
[01:42] <yharrow> Jordan_U: i cant get mine to work at all
[01:42] <wingnut2626> whats the best e-book reader for ubuntu?
[01:42] <mputtr> but doesn't actually restart
[01:42] <mputtr> and i screwed the pooch somewhere as well since my login screen is freakin wierd now
[01:42] <matreya6> wingnut2626, use Calibre
[01:42] <john__> I just upgraded my wife's system and under shutdown she still has the restart option...I do not...any ideas?
[01:42] <Jordan_U> yharrow: What problem are you having specifically? Is it just an Intel card or does the machine have two GPUs?
[01:43] <yharrow> 2 GUPU
[01:43] <yharrow> GPU
[01:43] <yharrow> Jordan_U: glxinfo returns "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig"
[01:43] <mputtr> i used to have a sidebar on the left and now it's got a top and bottom bar (the top shows "Applications" "Places" and the other stuff on the right, but the bottom bar looks kinda like windows bar
[01:43] <matreya6> escott, sigh...It looks as if I can't use LVM on this setup. Such a shame. Well, I'll just do it the old fashioned way after having wiped out all the LVM volumes using fdisk
[01:43] <Jordan_U> yharrow: From an xterm/ gnome-terminal window? What symptoms are you seeing that are actually problems?
[01:43] <daslinkard> What's the best way to uninstall a program downloaded to run in WINE?
[01:44] <Nom-> Looks like there's a slight race condition in the installer when using LVM... i've had this happen a few times where the old LVM is torn down, and new created, but the installer can't read the new /dev/mapper device (asks me to press retry)
[01:44] <Nom-> Hitting retry works fine, but yeah.. it's definitely an odd one
[01:44] <yharrow> Jordan_U: i can load the desktop which makes me think its using generic VGA drivers. but glxinfo returns an error
[01:44] <yharrow> Jordan_U: hell i cant even run minecraft
[01:44] <ki4ro> I just upgraded my wife's system and under shutdown she still has the restart option...I do not...any ideas?
[01:44] <Nom-> Note that I'm preseeing a fully unattended install, so there's no artificial "human" delay
[01:45] <yharrow> Jordan_U: thats pretty bad performance for a modern operating system :(
[01:45] <viktor> join #pig
[01:45] <Tiktalik> ratcheer: How do I change the start condition?
[01:45] <Jordan_U> yharrow: Could you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[01:46] <mputtr> is there a way for me to restore default settings in ubuntu?
[01:46] <Jordan_U> yharrow: And the output of "dmesg"?
[01:46] <yharrow> how do u output a file into console?
[01:46] <ratcheer> Tiktalik: It should be by editing a file named /etc/init/networkmanager.conf.
[01:46] <matreya6> Nom-, on a related note, after having wiped all LVM volumes using fdisk, writing the partition table and restarting (to make the changes take effect), the old Volume Group is still present...
[01:46] <Jordan_U> yharrow: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:46] <Jordan_U> yharrow: Or, "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[01:47] <xyz_> i heard i can order ubuntu disk for free!. Where?
[01:48] <Jordan_U> xyz_: Canonical used to fund sending of free CDs, but they can't afford to any more: http://www.ubuntu.com/shipit
[01:50] <mputtr> is there a way for me to restore ubuntu to default settings?
[01:50] <sacarlson> mputtr: you can create a new user that will create the default settings for a user, but your packages will still be installed
[01:51] <Jordan_U> matreya6: fdisk only deals with msdos partition tables, it doesn't understand filesystems or LVM or anything else. Just changing the partition table still leaves all the LVM metadata in place.
[01:51] <zaitzev> mputtr: the easiest would be to just reinstall, after a backup of whatever it is you wanna keep.
[01:51] <mputtr> so i can create a new user and delete the old one? but that wouldn't change a screwup i did that changed the login screen
[01:51] <yharrow> Jordan_U:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046557/
[01:51] <yharrow>  pastebinit FTW!
[01:51] <sacarlson> mputtr: do you want the default set of packages installed also?
[01:51] <xyz_> mputtr: cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda
[01:51] <matreya6> Jordan_U, that's good to know. How can I get rid of that LVM metadata?
[01:52] <mputtr> zaitzev: so i'll have to figure out how to save my nomachine settings
[01:52] <mputtr> it's not a big deal since i dont' mind doing it again.. i'll only get faster at it
[01:52] <Jordan_U> mputtr: xyz's command will *DESTROY all data on /dev/sda*.
[01:52] <mputtr> but it doesn't restore settings?
[01:52] <Jordan_U> !danger
[01:53] <daslinkard> What are the other chat rooms for Ubuntu?
[01:53] <mputtr> xyz_ not cool..-_-
[01:53] <mputtr> i can reinstall ubuntu in this case.. it's nto a big deal
[01:53] <zaitzev> mputtr: In most cases I personally find it easier to wipe the drive and install a fresh copy. The setup and installation of various programs doesn't take that long anyway
[01:53] <mputtr> ok. i'll do that then. i'll start from scratch
[01:54] <greggawatt> anyone get a blank screen when they upgraded?
[01:54] <yharrow> Jordan_U: did u get it
[01:55] <Flavaln> greggawatt, free monitors when you upgrade?
[01:55] <Flavaln> also no, I did not.
[01:56] <Jordan_U> yharrow: Could you also pastebin the output of "lspci" with "lspci | pastebinit"?
[01:57] <yharrow> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046560/
[01:57] <zaitzev> anyone in here happen to be running deluged/deluge-web on their server? I'm just wondering if there's a need for chmodding any files or folders, for the settings, and plugins to be installed/work.
[01:58] <Jordan_U> yharrow: I'm not certain, but I think that "01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 520MX] (rev a1)" means that you also have an Nvidia card, which can cause problems.
[01:59] <yharrow> Jordan_U: i do have a second card and that is my second card. its an optimus card so i cant get it to work without bumblebee which doesnt work for me
[01:59] <yharrow> now i gave up on nvidiai just want my intel card to work
[01:59] <yharrow> and i can't even have that
[02:00] <escott> yharrow, linus torvalds had some very specific comments on nvidia optimus
[02:00] <jgouveia> irc.xs4all.nl
[02:00] <escott> yharrow, see if you can disable the nvidia card in your bios
[02:00] <Jordan_U> yharrow: Optimus is a known pain with GNU/Linux. It can be made to work, but I unfortunately don't know how.
[02:01] <escott> !nomodeset | greggawatt
[02:02] <rackspacer> why can't i install vsftpd on 12.04? everything i'm reading tells me that i should be able to
[02:02] <yharrow> Jordan_U: i dont care about optimus anmore
[02:02] <yharrow> i just want my intel card to work
[02:02] <Jordan_U> yharrow: Unfortunatly, that doesn't stop if from making it harder to get just the Intel card to work.
[02:02] <matreya6> rackspacer, what error messages do you get?
[02:03] <rackspacer> "sudo apt-get install vsftpd" just returns me a message that it cant find the package
[02:03] <rackspacer> but everything i'm reading says to just use that ad i cant find anyone else online complaining
[02:03] <sacarlson> rackspacer: try sudo apt-get update;
[02:03] <rackspacer> (it's for a new rackspace server)
[02:03] <rackspacer> i will
[02:04] <escott> yharrow, In addition to lack of support for switching between GPU chipsets, the presence of Optimus can actually prevent the use of Nvidia chipset, even if installed GPU drivers support it.[5] Some older systems contain a hardware switch (mux) to switch the output between the two video devices, which could be set in the BIOS. Modern systems lack the hardware muxer and output is often hardwired to integrated chipset's display controller.
[02:04] <escott> With Optimus, the output frames from the Nvidia card are therefore transferred over the PCIe bus to the integrated chipset's framebuffer, which is then displayed. This transfer is not working using official driver on anything except Windows 7 because of lacking architectural infrastructure of other operating systems.
[02:04] <matreya6> rackspacer, you may need an extra repository, such as as a PPA.
[02:04] <Jordan_U> rackspacer: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:04] <mikestewart> rackspacer, sounds like empty apt cache
[02:04] <escott> yharrow, in other words... optimus not working = no way to make it work
[02:04] <Nom-> Is there somewhere I can find the source for the installer so I can try to reverse engineer why the installer can't find any kernels/
[02:04] <matreya6> yharrow, are you setting up a laptop?
[02:04] <yharrow> escott: ppl have gotten optimus to work with bumblebee. but it doenst work for me
[02:04] <yharrow> so i just want my intel card to work
[02:05] <celthunder> Nom-: what installer and you shouldnt have to reverse engineer it to figure that out
[02:05] <yharrow> so apparently doing ""sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-swrast"
[02:05] <escott> yharrow, thats what im saying. if your bios doesn't offer a way to turn off the nvidia, you may not even be able to get the intel to work, because there is no way to turn the optimus off
[02:05] <matreya6> Nom-, you can get the full sources from Launchpad if I' m not mistaken
[02:05] <yharrow> fixes it
[02:05] <yharrow> i have no idea what that does but glxinfo works now
[02:06] <Jordan_U> Nom-: What is the exact error message / symptom you're seeing?
[02:06] <sacarlson> Nom-: must be for pxe or auto install?
[02:06] <Nom-> I'm trying to do an install CD customization (with extra packages)... "base-installer: info: Found kernels ''"
[02:07] <matreya6> escott, I'm proceeding without LVM. A pity, but alas...
[02:07] <Nom-> error: exiting on error base-installer/kernel/no-kernels-found
[02:08] <yharrow> escott: even though "sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-swrast" returns glxinfo. fps still sucks
[02:08] <sacarlson> Nom-: what site or method are you using for cd customization?
[02:08] <yharrow> any ideas?
[02:08] <Nom-> sacarlson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization <-- with tweaks because that process doesn't work as is without some love
[02:09] <sacarlson> Nom-: I'll take a look at that did you see this http://www.remastersys.com/
[02:09] <Nom-> sacarlson: Yes, I've seen that, but that seems to be a backup tool rather than an install CD customization?
[02:09] <escott> yharrow, swrast probably means "software rasterizer" so yeah thats going to be slow
[02:10] <Flavaln> mesa is software rasterizer, yes
[02:10] <sacarlson> Nom-: well you just create a system you like and this converts it to a bootable cd
[02:10] <Flavaln> also yes, it is slow
[02:10] <yharrow> escott: the sad thing is it was working perfectly fine before i messed with nvidia
[02:10] <yharrow> and i just *had* to get nvidia to work
[02:10] <yharrow> now my intel is screwd
[02:10] <Nom-> sacarlson: That's much less desirable...
[02:10] <Flavaln> so, reinstall it yharrow
[02:10] <drp> hi ubuntu. i have a problem with my fresh 12.04 upgrade. after upgrade, i have no mouse or keyboard. i cannot enter the grub menus. can anyone here point me what to try next?
[02:11] <yharrow> reinstalling ubuntu is a pain
[02:11] <Flavaln> drp, does Ubuntu boot and work regardless?
[02:11] <matreya6> yharrow, so is a non working Intel GPU. Intel GPU's are great for 2D
[02:11] <escott> Flavaln, its a bit more complex than just "mesa is software" mesa is the wrapper to all the wrapper to the gl layer of all the intel drivers, but it does pass off to hardware what hardware can do an does everything else through software
[02:11] <sacarlson> Nom-: I've played with preseed methods in pxe but never got it to work, not sure why
[02:12] <Flavaln> escott, I work with mesa and I haven't seen any indication that's it's accelerated
[02:12] <Nom-> My preseed file works perfectly in a PXE environment... something in the install CD customization is breaking it
[02:12] <Nom-> It might still just be GPG problems...i'm seeing that earlier in the console
[02:12] <Flavaln> It's really quite a bit slower than native OpenGL drivers
[02:12] <drp> Flavaln: ubuntu boots. i get to the login screen, but have no way to interact with it.
[02:12]  * Nom- hates GPG
[02:13] <Flavaln> drp, unplug your USB kb&mouse and plug them back in?
[02:13] <Tiktalik> hey
[02:13] <Tiktalik> I can't get audio at all
[02:13] <Tiktalik> alsamixer runs
[02:13] <Tiktalik> nothing is muted
[02:13] <matreya6> Tiktalik, if you are using an Intel HD audiochip, that one is muted by default.
[02:13] <drp> Flavaln: tried, with no effect. still unresponsive.
[02:13] <Frank3> Hello all
[02:13] <yharrow> i reinstalled my intel driver and fps tripled
[02:14] <Tiktalik> matreya6: Nothing is muted
[02:14] <Flavaln> drp, nasty. In the past I've set USB to legacy mode in the BIOS for some systems, but I doubt that's your problem.
[02:14] <tadhg> hey ubuntu guys, how do I sucessfully apt-get purge dhcp-client on server 12.04
[02:14] <matreya6> Tiktalik, are you using ALSA or Pulse?
[02:14] <Tiktalik> matreya6: Whatever's the default, I guess
[02:14] <sacarlson> Nom-: I vagly recall seeing what you say about it not finding the kernel and yet it seemed like the file package was present
[02:14] <msdaisy> Hi, I was typing some commands into terminal on my server.  My prompt changed from $ to >  How do I change it back to $?  Or how do I execute it if that's possible without having done #!/bin/sh first.
[02:15] <drp> Flavaln: I checked the Bios setting, its set for legacy support.
[02:15] <phthano> msdaisy: Ctrl-C?
[02:15] <sumpygump> msdaisy: Try control-c or control-d
[02:15] <escott> Flavaln, http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[02:15] <Flavaln> drp, well you could try changing it to normal mode <shrug>
[02:15] <zykotick9> matreya6: alsa and pulse are not alternatives.  pulse requires alsa, it's a replacement of esd.
[02:15] <msdaisy> omg- well there's your dumb question for the day.  Thanks guys!
[02:15] <sacarlson> Nom-: like the preseed or other wanted a different version of the kernel that was available or?
[02:15] <phthano> msdaisy: It's why we're here.
[02:15] <tadhg> why doesn't it let me remove dhcp-client on ubuntu 12.04?? :(
[02:16] <Tiktalik> zykotick9, you're smart, can you help me shoot my audio troubles?
[02:16] <Tiktalik> and no, it's not muted.
[02:16] <Flavaln> drp, if you could ssh into the machine you might be able to do moer
[02:16] <sacarlson> tadhg: is it installed?
[02:16] <matreya6> zykotick, true, but if the pulse layer is muted than the alsa can be all open, there will be no sound.
[02:16] <tadhg> yes, on ubuntu server 12.04
[02:16] <Flavaln> Tiktalik, is it enabled in the BIOS?
[02:16] <zykotick9> Tiktalik: doubtful ;)  i'm not very good with audio issues.  what's the hardware?
[02:17] <drp> yeah tried. no ssh server runnibg.  :-(
[02:17] <Tiktalik> Flavaln: It was working on arch before I went to ubuntu, and I haven't changed or accessed the bios one bit
[02:17] <sacarlson> tadhg: what error is seen for not removing it?
[02:17] <Flavaln> drp, do you care about the install? You can wipe it, or boot to a live CD, or stick it in a running linux machine.
[02:17] <zykotick9> !tab > matreya6 pulse is certainly another layer, that's for sure.  if either are muted - 0 sound ;)
[02:17] <Tiktalik> zykotick9: it's a Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
[02:18] <tadhg> sacarlson: "Virtual packages like dhcp-client cannot be removed"
[02:18] <yharrow> can anyone help me to get intel 3d rendering to work without reintstalling?
[02:18] <sacarlson> tadhg: oh maybe look what's in the package and remove those
[02:18] <drp> Flavaln: yeah, some important stuff on the drive.  will have to pull it and rescue some files, then format and reinstaal.
[02:18] <Flavaln> Tiktalik, are your speakers plugged in and on? Have to ask
[02:18] <yharrow> i been trying for hours and hours now
[02:19] <matreya6> zykotick9, sorry about not addressing you properly, I'm using an old X-chat aqua version that has broken Tab completion :-/
[02:19] <zykotick9> Tiktalik: first two hits off google - no sound ;)
[02:19] <Flavaln> drp, yeah afraid so.
[02:19] <tadhg> sacarlson: how does one do this?
[02:19] <yharrow> anyone have experience with graphics?
[02:19] <Flavaln> or plug in a ps/2 keyboard and mouse ;-)
[02:19] <Tiktalik> Flavaln: I'm on a laptop.
[02:19] <Tiktalik> zykotick9: ?
[02:19] <yharrow> anyone here have experience with video cards?
[02:19] <sacarlson> tadhg: in synaptic you can right click on the package and see what is inside it  look at dependancies
[02:19] <drp> very dissappointing upgrade experience.  3 years of troublefree operation
[02:20] <Flavaln> yeah upgrade isn't always 100%
[02:20] <zykotick9> Tiktalik: when i googled "intel 82801 ich8 hd audio +ubuntu" - the first 2 hits weren't good ;)  - sorry afk
[02:20] <tadhg> sacarlson: oh no, my friend. no right clicking. i'm using the server release
[02:21] <Flavaln> drp, do try the live CD first though, maybe you could fix it
[02:22] <matreya6> escott, my next PC will include a true RAID card, that's for sure. I will need to start saving for it, though.
[02:22] <drp> Flavaln: tbanks, will do.
[02:23] <Tiktalik> zykotick9: It's worked before on every linux OS Ive used.
[02:23] <Tiktalik> *I've
[02:23] <Flavaln> matreya6, bleh I gave up on RAID a decade ago. It really costs a lot more to gain reliability and performance, sometimes the cards and software mess things up, and SSDs are quite quick these days.
[02:24] <sacarlson> tadhg:  might look at aptitude or http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-debian-package-management-cheat-sheet.html  something like this might work dpkg --info sudo_1.6.7p5-2_i386.deb | less
[02:24] <tadhg> sacarlson: i'll look at it, thanks
[02:24] <Flavaln> and RAID really doesn't solve most backup scenarios
[02:24] <escott> matreya6, i would think mdadm is better. the problem is that you dont want one good raid card. you want two, because if your card goes out you need another card
[02:24] <Flavaln> escott, yep
[02:25] <gmachine_24> I am running 11.04 Natty but a recent update makes my wireless BCM4312 802.11 so it can no longer stay connected. I have researched some and apparently if I install the firmware from 10.10 - that will work. How do I do this please?
[02:25] <matreya6> Falavaln, yes SSD's are quick, but I like to have a reliable backup of my /home drive at all times.
[02:26] <Flavaln> matreya6, well again RAID won't really do that. It protects against some hardware failure, but leaves you vulnerable to other hardware failures.
[02:26] <gmachine_24> Of can I roll back the software to an earlier version under 11.04?
[02:26] <gmachine_24> *Or
[02:26] <Flavaln> gmachine_24, certainly you mean driver, not firmware.
[02:27] <matreya6> Flavaln, yes, that's partially true, but on top of that I make regular backups to an external disk, which is only attached to the system during making/ restoring backups
[02:27] <Flavaln> RAID offers no protection against user error, software error, power surges, fires, sabotage, etc.
[02:27] <escott> matreya6, if it were my budget i would spend it on general purpose hardware and build a nice NAS. you can export that as NFS or iscsi and also run a SMB server
[02:27] <Tiktalik> drp: well, with windows you probably would have ran into at least 1 big problem a year!
[02:27] <yharrow> can anyone help me to get 3d rendering to work on a intel graphics card?
[02:27] <yharrow> i been trying for serveral hours now
[02:27] <undecim> The "Window Rules" plugin in CCSM is completely empty... what gives?
[02:28] <escott> yharrow, did you completely purge the nvidia drivers? did you delete the xorg.conf?
[02:28] <Flavaln> matreya6, sure if you go really high end RAID starts to make sense, after other solutions are in place.
[02:28] <yharrow> escott:  pretty sure i did but ill do ti agian
[02:29] <gmachine_24> Flavaln, I suppose I mean the package firmware-b43-installer and/or b43fwcutter
[02:29] <Flavaln> yharrow, didn't you said it worked out of the box before you messed with it?
[02:29] <yharrow> Flavaln: yes
[02:29] <matreya6> escott, yes, iSCSI sounds nice. Flavaln, well my PC is 4 years old now, so I won' t make any major investments right now.
[02:29] <Flavaln> yharrow, well I don't know. If it was me, I'd reinstall because I'm not an expert there.
[02:29] <yharrow> Flavaln: i spent like all day installing programs
[02:29] <gmachine_24> sorry, b43-fwcutter
[02:30] <matreya6> escott. Flavaln, thanks for the founded advice, I really appreciate it.
[02:30] <Flavaln> yharrow, sorry man. I spent 2 trying to get ubuntu to install on my system and finally figured it out.
[02:30] <Flavaln> matreya6, yw
[02:30] <yharrow> Flavaln: if i reinstall iavhe to do it all over again
[02:31] <Areckx> http://i.imgur.com/wq2bm.png I have a seperate partition, I want to be able to just put it onto my main partition, how do I do this? I booted into a livecd and it wouldn't let me raise the allocated space on my main partition
[02:31] <sacarlson> yharrow: if you installed another kernel try runing the original at boot set in grub,  if it worked before I think the drivers for it are in kernel
[02:31] <yharrow> dont think its got to do with the kernel
[02:31] <yharrow> oh
[02:31] <yharrow> i see what u mean
[02:31] <yharrow> brb
[02:32] <linuxjones> its there no more shares-admin?
[02:33] <sacarlson> linuxjones: is that like for samba?
[02:33] <makara> 12.04 why do the borders of windows disappear after some time working ? no close, maximise, minimize buttons
[02:34] <Flavaln> makara, I haven't noticed that.
[02:34] <sacarlson> makara: I think they reapear you you move your mouse over the top of the screen
[02:34] <Areckx> I tried deleting the partition and resizing, still not letting me go any larger even thought there are 70 gb of unused space
[02:34] <matreya6> Flavaln, escott, the motherboard manufacturers should receive a major slap on the wrist for calling their on-a-chip solution RAID. As I understand it know, it's a bit similar to the difference between a real modem and a soft/winmodem.
[02:35] <matreya6> know => now
[02:35] <daslinkard> Question....in Ubuntu 12.04, if I select shutdown....the computer will shutdown for a few seconds and then reboot....yet if I do sudo apt-get shutdown -h now....the computer completely shuts down properly and does not restart....anyone have a suggestion?
[02:35] <yharrow> does anyone here have experiencw ith intel cards?
[02:35] <KRomeleoN> what type of cards?
[02:35] <yharrow> i have no idea
[02:36] <yharrow> im just trying to get my 3d rendering to work
[02:36] <matreya6> daslinkard, the -h stands for Halt, so it makes sense that your computer shuts down
[02:36] <Flavaln> daslinkard, I could throw out some guesses if you like.
[02:36] <makara> Flavaln, sacarlson, they don't reappear. I have to reboot. I use compiz functionality a lot, like 'grid' to put windows in a corner of the screen
[02:36] <daslinkard> Flavaln: yes, please....
[02:36] <escott> matreya6, it is technically RAID. maybe they could have called it IRAID for inexpensive redundant array of inexpensive disks, but it is RAID. and its not entirely clear what should be expected of a raid card? is it not raid just because it doesnt battery backup? is it not raid just because it doesn't do its own checksums? is it not raid...
[02:36] <escott> matreya6, like many other problems this one seems to point right back at redmond
[02:37] <Flavaln> daslinkard, well a complete guess, but maybe the GUI method leaves the computer in a USB wakeable state, and some USB device wakes your computer immediately.
[02:37] <yharrow> can anyone help me get my intel card to work?
[02:37] <escott> matreya6, if MSFT shipped something like mdadm with windows then gamers would use it, but instead intel could offer RAID stripping for $50 upcharge on specific models and get gamer money
[02:37] <Flavaln> Areckx, which partitions did you try to delete?
[02:37] <sacarlson> yharrow: so I guess you didn't see another option of another kernel to boot in grub?
[02:38] <daslinkard> Flavaln: how do I get around it?
[02:38] <Flavaln> daslinkard, disable those optinos in the BIOS
[02:38] <Areckx> Flavaln::  dev/sda1 is the unused partition
[02:38] <yharrow> sacarlson: it doesnt matter because i cant acess grub options cuz i have an hdmi screen
[02:38] <Areckx> I want to just be able to use the hard drive space, is there a way to just add files to it?
[02:38] <Nom-> sacarlson: No i've tried various differnet requested kernel versions... the installer is not actually finding *any* kernels for no apparent reason
[02:38] <yharrow> the hdmi layer isnt loaded with grub
[02:38] <linuxjones> sacarlson: yeah
[02:39] <Flavaln> Areckx, well I think your problem is that your partitions are all between free space. You need a continuous block.
[02:39] <sacarlson> yharrow: there is also a gui application to change grub setting to try it
[02:39] <Flavaln> Areckx, swap partitions are easy to kill and remake. I don't even know why you have two of them.
[02:39] <Areckx> Flavaln::  can I mount it so I can just add files to it?
[02:39] <sacarlson> Nom-: is this related to yharrow?
[02:39] <yharrow> sacarlson: i searched for one but i couldnt find it
[02:40] <Nom-> No, earlier question about the installer we were discussing
[02:40] <Flavaln> to move partitions around, you'll have to find some software to do that for you, or do it manually if yo ucan.
[02:40] <sacarlson> Nom-: oh ok your boot cd
[02:40] <matreya6> escott, surely the onboard chips responsible for "RAID" do *some*thing beside offering a small menu in ROM?
[02:40] <yharrow> Flavaln: i've made 2 swap partitions cuz i heard a rumor once that 2 swap is better than one
[02:40] <Nom-> Yeah, got distracted trying a new CD version which still bombs out :(
[02:41] <matreya6> escott, nvm...
[02:41] <Flavaln> yharrow, interesting. I prefer 0 myself :-)
[02:41] <escott> matreya6, not really. its just a little bit of code to define the disk layout
[02:41] <undecim> yharrow: Rumors: the most reliable source for system administration tips
[02:41] <yharrow> sacarlson: i dont see any program that lets me edit startup entries
[02:41] <Areckx> and I'm fixing my swap right now
[02:41] <yharrow> undecim: exactly. though there is some logic behind it i guess. better access if u have to 2 surfaces to read from?\
[02:42] <matreya6> escott, in that case they use a big chip to contain that small amount of code.
[02:42] <undecim> yharrow: Well if it's on two different drives, yeah...
[02:42] <Flavaln> Areckx, you can mount any of those ext4 partitions easily
[02:42] <sacarlson> yharrow: https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer
[02:42] <undecim> yharrow: But then you might as well make a RAID 0 for it
[02:42] <yharrow> undecim: maybe they left that part out
[02:42] <Areckx> Flavaln::  when I mounted it before, it just had a lost+found and it said "you don't have the permission to..." etc etc
[02:43] <Flavaln> Areckx, so try it again and tell the channel the exact error message
[02:43] <matreya6> Areckx, was that partition encrypted by any chance?
[02:43] <Areckx> matreya6::  it is just the ext4 partition
[02:43] <Flavaln> matreya6, it wouldn't have a lost&found and shouldn't show as ext4 if it was encrypted
[02:43] <Areckx> I will try again, I have formated it again and it is not mounting for some reason
[02:44] <matreya6> Flavaln, not with LUKS no, but with ecryptfs it would.
[02:44] <Frank3> I have an issue with my wireless internet.  It keeps asking me for a password over and over.
[02:44] <Flavaln> hmm
[02:44] <matreya6> Frank3, what wifi controller do you use?
[02:44] <Frank3> this is my nic card info: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG [Calexico2]
[02:45] <Frank3> i am using wpa/wpa2
[02:45] <Frank3> is there a fix coming soon for this issue?
[02:46] <Areckx> Flavaln::  matreya6  I also keep getting this in my terminal while growing the swap http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046593/
[02:46] <Flavaln> sounds like a bug. Anyways, I've never thought of growing my swap space.
[02:47] <Areckx> Flavaln::  in case I wish to hibernate
[02:47] <Flavaln> If you could delete the swap (maybe with a live CD?) and create a new one at the end of the disk, that would give more options. Verify that's not dangerous first though
[02:47] <escott> Areckx, just a gui assertion. not a big deal
[02:47] <matreya6> Areckx, this looks like bug while rendering the GUI.
[02:47] <Areckx> escott::  matreya6  thanks, I thought as much, but better safe than sorry
[02:48] <Frank3> matreya6: have you seen this issue before?
[02:48] <escott> Areckx, those come up ALL THE TIME with basically any gui program. its always surprised me that gui programs aren't constantly crashing, the layout engines must just be designed to deal with assertion failures
[02:49] <Flavaln> Frank3, sure but I don't know about your particular wifi chipset.
[02:50] <sacarlson> Frank3: I assume it keeps asking for a password as it doesn't match what it thinks is needed for your AP
[02:50] <Frank3> sacarlson, i understand but is there something i could do..or just wait for an update?
[02:50] <Areckx> Frank3::  have you gone into your router's config? maybe you have a security feature that makes it so you have to add your mac adress in order to stay logged in
[02:50] <sacarlson> Frank3: maybe you got the passwork wrong?  I have better luck with wicd for wifi also
[02:51] <sacarlson> password
[02:51] <Frank3> i am sure its not mac related
[02:51] <Areckx> Frank3::  do you have this problem with other machines?
[02:51] <Frank3> i have 6 devices that connect to this router
[02:51] <Areckx> okay so it's just your 12.04 Frank3
[02:51] <Frank3> yes sir
[02:52] <Areckx> Frank3::  have you tried purging and reinstalling nm-applet
[02:52] <Frank3> i believe before i upgraded network manager it worked
[02:52] <sacarlson> Frank3:  just for grins you should try change the password in your AP and see if it works then
[02:52] <Frank3> i have not done that Areckx
[02:52] <Frank3> i could try that i guess
[02:53] <sacarlson> Frank3: ah network-manger ok then wicd might be the solution
[02:53] <Frank3> if i uninstall network manager...is there a way i could download wicd net?
[02:53] <Frank3> then
[02:54] <sacarlson> Frank3: I guess wicd does what it needs to network-manger to replace it
[02:54] <Frank3> sorry guys getting really late here and i have work tomorrow...thanks for all your help
[02:54] <Frank3> i'll try something tomorrow
[02:54] <Frank3> bye all
[02:55] <matreya6> Frank3, bye, have a nice working day :-)
[02:55] <Areckx> Frank3::  tomorrow is a new day
[02:56] <undecim> How can I reset all unity and compiz settings to default?
[02:58] <msdaisy> I want to list details about partitions in terminal.  I know there's sda1 through sda6 in /dev.  What command lets me see details like file sizes, file types (NTFS, FAT, etc)?
[03:00] <invisiblek> msdaisy, try: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[03:01] <Areckx> Flavaln::  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046607/
[03:02] <invisiblek> Areckx, you cannot sudo cd
[03:02] <invisiblek> you should change to root to access it
[03:02] <escott> msdaisy, invisiblek sudo parted -l /dev/sda is better than fdisk
[03:02] <Areckx> Flavaln::  http://i.imgur.com/fc9X2.png
[03:03] <Areckx> invisiblek::  I want to be able to use that partition to store files on, since I have 79 gb of data being unused
[03:03] <msdaisy> fdisk gives good information invisiblek , I'll try parted also escott
[03:03] <invisiblek> Areckx, then put data on it. its formatted already...
[03:03] <escott> msdaisy, fdisk can't read gpt otherwise its the same as parted
[03:03] <Areckx> invisiblek::  it is giving me permission denied, chmod didn't help
[03:04] <invisiblek> ah
[03:04] <invisiblek> make a folder on it or something and chmod that folder
[03:04] <invisiblek> there are some mount options you can use too in /etc/fstab
[03:04] <ProtekNickz> either that or chown
[03:04] <invisiblek> but making a folder and chmod'ing it (or even chown)
[03:04] <invisiblek> is easier
[03:04] <Kira> hi here.. I need help .. anybody knows..how to register account in irc?
[03:05] <Areckx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046610/
[03:05] <invisiblek> Kira, /msg nickserv help
[03:05] <Kira> is it possible in webchat?
[03:05] <invisiblek> should be
[03:06] <Kira> # /msg nickserv help
[03:06] <Kira> :)
[03:06] <jahnon> hello good morning boys whatsapp ?
[03:06] <sambagirl> i installed Airtime and it worked perfectly yet now it doesnt load. how can i uninstall it? like apt-get uninstall airtime ?
[03:06] <Kira> why only boys?
[03:06] <Kira> :)
[03:07] <jahnon> sorry only girl
[03:07] <ProtekNickz> here's a propblem i'm having, do anything liek using gimp play movie or d/l somthing ect..., after a short while say 30 mins to 1 hour the dekstop goes weird, like if i open a terminal i cant type in it as all, also can't empty the trash can??? any idea's???
[03:07] <Areckx> invisiblek::  THANK YOU
[03:07] <ProtekNickz> and other stuff
[03:07] <Areckx> invisiblek::  that worked
[03:07] <matreya6> I'm going to sleep. escott, Jordan_U, thanks for the excellent advice.
[03:07] <Areckx> I chown'ed it
[03:07] <Kira> I'm stupid( I don't where I have to  print this command in webchat
[03:07] <yharrow> is it posisble to load HDMI with grub?
[03:07] <yharrow> so the screen works right away
[03:07] <Kira> yep
[03:08] <yharrow> how ?
[03:08] <escott> !register | Kira
[03:08] <linuxjones> i suck at nfs, haha
[03:08] <sambagirl> to uninstall is it like apt-get uninstall or remove <app> ???
[03:08] <ProtekNickz> sambagirl: remove
[03:08] <yharrow> is it possible to load HDMI iwth grub?
[03:08] <matreya6> Bye guys and gals, I' m hitting the hay.
[03:08] <sambagirl> has anyone installed airtime ?
[03:09] <yharrow> apt-get remove and if u want to remove the settings too and clean up traces its apt-get purge
[03:09] <Kira> !register | Kira
[03:09] <jahnon> why like to sex ?
[03:09] <ProtekNickz> here's a propblem i'm having, do anything liek using gimp play movie or d/l somthing ect..., after a short while say 30 mins to 1 hour the dekstop goes weird, like if i open a terminal i cant type in it as all, also can't empty the trash can??? any idea's???
[03:09] <msdaisy> thanks escott and invisiblek
[03:09] <nanypa> imam alergia kym tebe, budeg
[03:09] <Flavaln> I just installed 12.04 with an EFIboot and an ext2 /boot partition. The EFIboot partition works great but when I boot to the drive (rather than the UEFI name) it fails to boot.  Is this install going to boot on other hardware?
[03:09] <yharrow> anybody here know grub settings?
[03:09] <sambagirl> the apt-get autoremove that removes all the additional stuff too?
[03:09] <Areckx> We're all androids anyway...
[03:09] <sambagirl> should it be apt-get autoremove airtime
[03:10] <sambagirl> to get rid of monit and icecast and all that stuff?
[03:10] <yharrow> sambagirl: autoremove removes apps which are no longer needed
[03:10] <sambagirl> oh ok yharrow the system file recognized apps that are not associated with anything any longer?
[03:10] <jahnon> i'm a donkey
[03:10] <linuxjones> ive been using this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo , to try to get nfs working, i get to the part where he says On the client we can mount the complete export tree with one command: and it freezes in my terminal, anyone have any ideas what im doing wrong here? the only changes ive made are switching /home/users to plain old /home
[03:10] <ProtekNickz> sambagirl: sas yharrow said do apt-get purge remove <APP> removes app and traces
[03:11] <sambagirl> i am going to reinstall it all over again
[03:11] <jahnon> i love sex
[03:11] <bernardoct> Hi y'all, how are you doing tonight?
[03:11] <sambagirl> is it possibe that if you have a hard restart that an app can be broken even in unix.linux?
[03:11] <sambagirl> a flag can be initiated possibly??
[03:11] <Flavaln> sambagirl, sure.
[03:11] <bernardoct> I'm having a problem with ubuntu 12.04
[03:11] <sambagirl> from an off to on state or etc?
[03:11] <bernardoct> Since I updated it yesterday I have no sound
[03:12] <Flavaln> file system journeling only solves some issues.
[03:12] <bernardoct> I already checked if there's a mute but everything is unmuted
[03:12] <yharrow> sambagirl:  for a completely fresh install of an app u need to run apt-get purge <app> (if u need the settings for that app u should back them up first)
[03:12] <sambagirl> ok Flavian
[03:12] <ProtekNickz> Can any one help? having a slight issue with ubuntu 12.04
[03:12] <bernardoct> And I've been checking on forums since yesterday in the morning without finding an answer
[03:12] <sambagirl> ok let me restart this again
[03:12] <yharrow> by setitngs i mean system settings. personal settings are stored in /home and ar enot touched by apt-get purge
[03:12] <bernardoct> Can anyone help?
[03:13] <ProtekNickz> here's a propblem i'm having, do anything liek using gimp play movie or d/l somthing ect..., after a short while say 30 mins to 1 hour the dekstop goes weird, like if i open a terminal i cant type in it as all, also can't empty the trash can??? any idea's???
[03:13] <Flavaln> bernardoct, someone had the same problem in here an hour ago
[03:13] <yharrow> bernardoct:  state your problem
[03:13] <bernardoct> Ok, I updated the system. Just a regular update. Nothing unusual
[03:13] <yharrow> Can I load HDMI with grub?
[03:13] <bernardoct> After I restarted, I had no sound
[03:13] <Flavaln> yharrow, huh?
[03:13] <bernardoct> ?
[03:14] <yharrow> Flavaln: my screen is HDMI so i want to kmnow if i can load HDMI with grub
[03:14] <yharrow> so ic an see
[03:14] <bernardoct> I already tryed to check alsamixer everything is fine there
[03:14] <bernardoct> :(
[03:14] <Flavaln> sure, it works on my setup here
[03:14] <yharrow> bernardoct: i was gonna say alsamixer and sound settings i dont know more than that
[03:14] <Flavaln> although I wouldn't use the word "load"
[03:14] <bernardoct> I checked also pavucontrol and everything seems fine there
[03:14] <yharrow> Flavaln: how do i do that then
[03:14] <bernardoct> yharrow: I see... Thanks though!
[03:15] <yharrow> bernardoct: np
[03:15] <Flavaln> yharrow, um, HDMI is my monitor cable, and it just works.
[03:15] <ProtekNickz> bernardoct: u tried pavucontrol
[03:15] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: Yes I did :/
[03:15] <sambagirl> have to reboot brb
[03:15] <ProtekNickz> k
[03:15] <Nom-> GAH... my install CD problem is a GPG issue
[03:15] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: I also tryed alsamixer
[03:15] <budeg> proxy
[03:15] <Nom-> At least I know where to look
[03:15]  * Nom- really does hate GPG
[03:16] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: It's not muted and it's on analog duplex
[03:16] <bernardoct> I find it weird that my mic is also mute
[03:16] <bernardoct> So both input and output
[03:16] <yharrow> Flavaln: u can see your grub screen with HDMI?
[03:17] <Flavaln> yharrow, honestly sometimes I can't, sometimes I can. It's a bit odd
[03:17] <Flavaln> Sometimes it says, "no video mode selected"
[03:17] <ProtekNickz> bernardoct: do "lspci" and see if their still installed
[03:17] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: Ok, hang on
[03:18] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: There's a lot of stuff showing there
[03:18] <ProtekNickz> look for the audio
[03:18] <Flavaln> "error: no video mode selected" but I don't know that it's HDMI at fault.
[03:19] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[03:19] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: Was this what you were looking for?
[03:19] <ProtekNickz> yup
[03:19] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: Did it give you any idea? :)
[03:20] <ProtekNickz> lol, yes to say its installed, now to see whay you audio is MUTED!
[03:20] <ProtekNickz> ok all leads present and correct? Volume up ect..?
[03:20] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: Yes, all the volumes are unmuted and all
[03:21] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: The output is analog duplex
[03:21] <bernardoct> I mean, at pavucontrol
[03:21] <ProtekNickz> do you use the analog or HD?
[03:21] <ProtekNickz> as in Digital
[03:22] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: What do you mean?
[03:22] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: Sorry, I'm pretty newbie
[03:22] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: I've always used analog duplex
[03:22] <ProtekNickz> ok where do your speakers plug in, green Jack plug hole or Black square'ish boc that glows red inside
[03:22] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: I only make changes when I need to hook up the computer at the TV, so then I choose HDMI
[03:22] <yharrow> FlavaIn thanks for the info
[03:23] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: green
[03:23] <ProtekNickz> k
[03:23] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: It's analog
[03:23] <ProtekNickz> yes
[03:23] <ProtekNickz> im checking to make sure
[03:23] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: At my sound configurations I have Speakers (Built-in Audio) chosen
[03:25] <ProtekNickz> ok
[03:25] <ProtekNickz> open system settings then SOund
[03:25] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: Done
[03:25] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: What do I do now?
[03:26] <ProtekNickz> under output TAB, select Analog OutPut
[03:26] <bernardoct> There's not this option
[03:26] <ProtekNickz> ?
[03:26] <bernardoct> I'm finding it weird
[03:26] <ProtekNickz> me too
[03:26] <ProtekNickz> 1 sec
[03:26] <bernardoct> That's why I'm using Speakers (Built-in audio)
[03:26] <bernardoct> Ok
[03:27] <ProtekNickz> do you see the output tab?
[03:27] <bernardoct> Yes, I see it, but without the analog output
[03:27] <ProtekNickz> whats in their?
[03:27] <bernardoct> I only see Analog Output audio in the puvacontrol, in pulseaudio
[03:27] <bernardoct> But my alsa doesn't have this option anymore I guess
[03:28] <bernardoct> HDMI, Digital Output, and Speakers
[03:28] <ProtekNickz> ok bare with me
[03:28] <bernardoct> Ok
[03:29] <KRomeleoN> I am buying my kids their first laptop to share. 4 and 6 years old. obviously i am thinking edubuntu but i was wndering if thesystem 76 laptops are good quality
[03:31] <rinzler> is there a simple way to find out basic system stats?
[03:32] <Corey> rinzler: Such as?
[03:32] <dr_willis> what stats..
[03:32] <dr_willis> !info conky
[03:32] <rinzler> Corey: RAM, CPU speed, cpu type etc
[03:33] <Corey> dmidecode spits that out.
[03:33] <dr_willis> theres also indicator-applets for a lot of those stats
[03:33] <dr_willis> !info sysinfo
[03:33] <dr_willis> anf more hardware specific..
[03:33] <dr_willis> !info hwinfo
[03:34] <rinzler> I'll try those, thanks!
[03:37] <clausen> how do I configure SCIM to add deadkeys for typing in european languages?
[03:38] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: Any luck there?
[03:39] <ProtekNickz> try lsmod, to get list of modules, look through the list to find you sound module then do "sudo modprobe <name of sound Module>
[03:39] <sacarlson> yharrow: did the info on grub-customizer not enable you to change grub defaults to try ?
[03:39] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: Ok, hang on
[03:39] <ProtekNickz> will do
[03:39] <dr_willis> lsmod shows loaded modules.. so any shown are allready loaded....
[03:39] <dr_willis> unless im really confused.. ;0
[03:40] <tripelb> hi all, I've given up on booting ubuntu on this mac. I want to make a USB ubuntu boot that will work on windows. With my mac.
[03:40] <tripelb> I'd like to know what format to make an ubuntu partition to boot ubuntu off a USB drive. I want the USB boot to work on WINDOWS. (I've given up for Ubuntu on the mac.)
[03:41] <JohnTeddy> How can I find out if my sound card is working?
[03:41] <dr_willis> tripelb:  for 12.04 you can 'imge' the iso file straight to theusb with a tool like dd, or other imageing tools
[03:41] <JohnTeddy> How can I specify from command line what sound to use if I have two cards?
[03:42] <dr_willis> tripelb:  assuming you can figure out device names on the mac you could use the dd command if it has it.  the pendrivelinux tool may also hav e some mac spcific guides/tools
[03:43] <sacarlson> tripelb: at boot time you don't have an operating system so how do you boot a usb from windows?
[03:43] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: Ok, I found soundcore, and a few others with snd in their names that I'm assuming it means sound
[03:43] <ProtekNickz> yeah
[03:43] <sacarlson> tripelb: maybe you want to run ubuntu inside windows?  look at virtualbox
[03:43] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: I did sudo modprobe soundcore and nothing happened
[03:45] <bernardoct> ProtekNickz: I did sudo modprobe snd and nothing happened again :(
[03:45] <sacarlson> has anyone ever figured out how to get virtualbox to boot from a usb flash?  I wanted to test usb flash drives to see if they were bootable with virtualbox but failed
[03:46] <dr_willis> !find snd.ko
[03:47] <dr_willis> sacarlson:  you have to some how configure vbox's usb support. then mount the usb device in the configs beofr fireing up vbox. or just make a image of theusb and set that as a hard drive perhaps
[03:49] <not_techb> Is there some udev rules or something to keep my microcontroller from hopping between ttyUSBx?
[03:49] <mputtr> dr_willis: so i found out that somehow, nomachine has a "shadow" mode that seems to be exaclty like vnc
[03:49] <sacarlson> dr_willis: you think that will prove that the usb drive is bootable?  that might test most of the usb flash image I guess
[03:49] <KRomeleoN> anyone using the apple magic trackpad?
[03:50] <dr_willis> sacarlson:  ive had usb flash drives that boot properly on some machines, but not others. :0 id say if a image of the flash is bootble in vbox. then the bootloaders and stuff are setup right on the flash.
[03:50] <ejo> How strange.. after running for about 6 hours straight, my System Monitor window, displaying the Resources view, started flashing its background color ever 1 second.
[03:50] <ejo> It's not an alert or anything, it doesn't stop when focused
[03:50] <mputtr> dr_willis: although it also seems like it's refresh is pretty.... slow
[03:50] <ejo> Just some kind of bug in the repaint routine or something
[03:51] <dr_willis> mputtr:  now you can edit the ubuntu help wiki entry with all your knowledge on  the topic. ;)
[03:51] <sacarlson> dr_willis: ya better to just test the iso file that goes in the usb to test it I guess,  and just verify the the image on the usb matches after installed
[03:51] <mputtr> lol i'll do what i can.. although i'm still a newb. i have so much to learn
[03:52] <dr_willis> mputtr:  you have now used nx more then i hve. ;)
[03:53] <mputtr> ahahaha i guess so XD
[03:53] <techb_away> anyone have experiance with microcontrollers?
[03:53] <mputtr> now i can access it via ssh or via shadow.. the next time iw ant to test out later is if i can access the server from an outside network
[03:53] <sacarlson> techb_away: to install ubuntu on a microcontroller?
[03:54] <techb_away> sacarlson, no to make ubuntu not put arduino on different ttyUSBs everytime I plug it in
[03:54] <datakid> does anyone have any tips re graphical interface for mtr - I'm more interested in an analysis tool of longitudinal reports rather than just a gnome front end to the cli tool
[03:54] <techb_away> I have Raspberry Pi for embed *nix lol
[03:54] <dr_willis> techb_away:  those would be udev rules  i imagine.
[03:55] <techb_away> That's what I was thinking, but am having trouble finding a good tutorial
[03:55] <dr_willis> id check askubuntu.com - they most likely have some similer quesgtions/postings.  for  devices ghat change
[03:55] <techb_away> never messed with udev before
[03:55] <techb_away> trying #arduino
[03:55] <techb_away> thanks guys
[03:56] <dr_willis> !udev
[03:56] <sambagirl> aha! I successfully removed everything and rebuilt the entire configuration and it is working properly now. Just out of curiosity, is it normal for apache2 server to be disabled or nto started on boot?
[03:56] <dr_willis> sambagirl:  never had the issue here
[03:56] <sambagirl> nto=not
[03:56] <sambagirl> ok dr_willis
[03:56] <dr_willis> sambagirl:  not seen anyone else mention similer issues eitgher
[03:57] <sambagirl> well in all actuality i have seen where you had to stop the server and apply functioanlity and then restart it
[03:58] <sambagirl> is there only 1 apache server on a basic install or are there more? i dont mean like with a VM. just in general.
[03:58] <dr_willis> restgtarting a service after altering configs is common. but ive seen these days whefe a lot of services notice the change and auto-reload. ;)
[03:58] <sambagirl> but it works
[03:58] <sambagirl> :S
[03:58] <sambagirl> yes
[03:59] <dr_willis> apache is not installed by default. so not suree what you mean by 1 apache server.
[03:59] <sambagirl> a single apache environment or application set
[04:00] <dr_willis> apache can run several sites from a single apache install on a single machine.
[04:01] <andrewaclt> sambagirl, they are called virtual hosts
[04:01] <sambagirl> i agree
[04:01] <sambagirl> yes
[04:01] <sambagirl> i wasnt thinking correctly just then
[04:03] <sambagirl> well i have this thing working properly again and this time i think i will take the time to read the wiki and the manual :D
[04:03] <sacarlson> sambagirl: I've had were apache2 failed to start at boot but that was due to some syntax errors in the /etc/apache2 config files
[04:03] <dr_willis> when in doubt.. read  the manual. ;)
[04:04] <gogo_> Hi, I have a question regarding Ubuntu App Showdown
[04:04] <lgbtbuntu> hey people of ubuntu, i have a low priority problem, i am having trouble getting .iso files to mount properly can someone please help?
[04:05] <sambagirl> what irritates me is that i actually thought that the server had stopped however other server based functions were working but i was getting a 503 error ont he main app and while the support apps did the main one didnt. the wiki said to start or restart apache but that was after i did all kinds of other stuff that wasnt neceissisary but it was a learning experience.
[04:06] <Alan502> Hello. How can I make ubuntu run a set of commands when a certain network interface is up?
[04:07] <sacarlson> lgbtbuntu: I can normaly view contents of iso files from nautalis,  you on a server or desktop?
[04:07] <lgbtbuntu> desktop, i am having a problem with permissions when mounting
[04:08] <lgbtbuntu> the file mounts but it is giving me a dialogue that /directory/ seems to be mounted read only
[04:08] <sacarlson> lgbtbuntu: oh ya you do need to be sudo to mount stuf sudo mount -o loop /home/sacarlson/ubuntu-10.04.4-alternate-i386.iso /mnt/ubuntu-cd
[04:09] <daslinkard> Hello room!
[04:09] <sacarlson> lgbtbuntu: the directory must be created at that location before you can mount to it
[04:09] <daslinkard> Does anyone know how to clear the network streaming history in VLC?
[04:10] <lgbtbuntu> ahhh i see, scarlson is there any way i can do this by opening gmount as sudo or any other fancy gui utils?
[04:11] <sacarlson> lgbtbuntu: gksudo nautilus;  but be carefull as you can do some bad things with this
[04:11] <tripelb> sacarlson, You are correct. Better to say, on a windows computer. There is a windows program to make the boot USB but it's a windows program and I am on a mac. And so how do I make the boot drive. // or must I borrow a windows computer to do it. I think the library wont let me install a program unliess I can run it from another flash drive.
[04:12] <mint_newbie> dd if=bootfile of=/dev/sdbX bs=512 count=1
[04:13] <Areckx> where can I read about update information for "apt" because it was just updated and I don't know what changed
[04:13] <mint_newbie> that's for boot record
[04:13] <lgbtbuntu> right, i'm assuming you mean unlocking root dirs to outside sources? i don't have anything important enough on this comp to lose to any crackers but my friends may, do you have any suggestions?
[04:13] <tripelb> oic dr_willis> tripelb:  for 12.04 you can 'imge' the iso file straight to theusb with a tool like dd, or other imageing tools --- wow. Then I have this other little problem; Unity baffles me. Gnome was dead obvious.
[04:14] <dr_willis> i found unity rather straight forward...
[04:14] <dr_willis> so did the total pc  newb - my wife.. ;0
[04:14] <ProtekNickz> lol
[04:14] <dr_willis> other then a few not so obvious shortcuts..
[04:14] <dr_willis> but you hold the super key - to see most of those.
[04:15] <jcgetlt> Hi yall
[04:15] <jcgetlt> .
[04:15] <tripelb> wow, I can dd the iso file. tb dances. bye then
[04:15] <dr_willis> wife is so used to her tablet noww.. i catch her touching the laptops screen and puzzled why it dosent work. ;0
[04:15] <tripelb> thank you doctor willis dr_willis
[04:15] <dr_willis> tripelb:  be  carefull with dd...
[04:15] <sacarlson> oh I don't recall having to use sudo as iso files should be viewable from within fileroller or arkive manager
[04:15] <dr_willis> one typo = erased the wro ng  hard drive
[04:16] <jcgetlt> Windows tablet will rule
[04:16] <dr_willis> or be a total disaster,.,.
[04:17] <dr_willis> only time will tell. ;)
[04:17] <sambagirl> blue screening tablet :D
[04:17] <ProtekNickz> BSOD Tablet or DOOOOOM!!!
[04:17] <ProtekNickz> lol
[04:17] <s5fs> 12.04 on Lenovo L512, I can't get it to hibernate/standby on lid close. It does wake after I open the lid though. Any ideas?
[04:17] <bazhang> !ot | jcgetlt ProtekNickz
[04:18] <lgbtbuntu> thats why i chose ubuntu, i havent had a crash in 5 years let alone a bsod
[04:18] <jcgetlt> Tm the real deal if its 486 and 500 gig 4 gig of ram its mine
[04:18] <Nerf_Jihad> I have a question about troubleshooting my audio
[04:18] <dr_willis> s5fs:  checked  the forums and askubuntu for info on that specific model? may be some kerenl option or other tweaks for it
[04:18] <sambagirl> s5fs the lenovos (thinkpads( are really opensuse supported however on earlier thinkpads like t / r series the linux functionality is not based on distrobutions.
[04:19] <sambagirl> i worked for ibm/lenovo so i know
[04:19] <jcgetlt> Cool
[04:19] <sambagirl> brb
[04:19] <jcgetlt> This irc  app for droid rules
[04:19] <s5fs> sambagirl: i had it working in 11.10 and 11.04, not sure what the deal is with 12.04. any advice is welcomed.
[04:20] <bazhang> jcgetlt, chit chat is NOT here
[04:20] <dr_willis> new kernel in 12.04 may be the issue.
[04:20] <Nerf_Jihad> my audio works in a general sense, but I can't get anything that uses JACK to play any sort of sound at all
[04:20] <s5fs> dr_willis: possible to downgrade kernel or no?
[04:20] <unrealpancake> Hello, I have a question involving reinstalling / repairing windows 7 From Ubuntu. Is there anybody that would possibly be able to help me out?
[04:20] <dr_willis> s5fs:  doubtfull.
[04:20] <s5fs> i'll drop back to 11.04 if i can't get this working, kind of a critical feature, haha!
[04:21] <ProtekNickz> unrealpancake: ?
[04:21] <sambagirl>  well to be perfectly frank with you s5fs i run 10.10 still only because of the new interface that i dont find functional for me. however you may want to try xubuntu as an alternative. btw did you do a new install or upgrade? i found upgrading painful
[04:21] <dr_willis> s5fs:  i consider hibernate/suspend - a pointless feqture. :) when i got 20 sec boot times.. and 3+ Mo Uptimes
[04:21] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, how far are you into boot before you encounter errors
[04:21] <s5fs> sambagirl: new install
[04:21] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu:  It loads the windows animation and then black screen
[04:22] <s5fs> dr_willis: on a laptop?
[04:22] <dr_willis> s5fs:  id check the forums and askubuntu.com it may be a known issue with known work arounds.
[04:22] <sambagirl> if its that fresh why not go back to the earlier functionally sound version and see if the hibernation funciton works or not. it's not a hardware issue it's a driver i/ bug thingy
[04:22] <Nom-> Ok, finally got a working install CD!
[04:22] <Nom-> Now just need to debug why my late command failed :(
[04:22] <s5fs> dr_willis: yeah, i'm checking now. google wasn't much help, maybe something hasn't been indexed yet on the forums. all i keep seeing are suggestions to go to a later kernel
[04:23] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu: I am able to see the mouse pointer as well.
[04:23] <s5fs> sambagirl: i wanted 12.04 b/c the ui is better than 11.10, tbh. i'm not crazy about unity either but that's the direction things are going i guess
[04:23] <dr_willis> 12.04 fixed a lot of old power sa  veing/hibernate/suspend issues.. with its newer kerenel. and  added new ones. ;)
[04:25] <dr_willis> wife and I use android on the phones so much.. we try to do similer thingd on the pc. :)   unity should borrow some of the android ideas a bit more. :)
[04:25] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, sounds more like a windows problem than ubuntu, are you using two differnt partitions for windows on the same drive?
[04:25] <sambagirl> but you see the thing for me is that everythign works perfectuly for me in 10.10 and i mean perfectly. it's me that is imperfect :D
[04:25] <s5fs> sambagirl: let me be clear, the suspend and hibernate features DO work, just not on lid close. on lid open it does wake though.
[04:25] <dr_willis> she cant quite understand 4 desktops in a 'square' she can understand 4 in a row.
[04:25] <s5fs> sambagirl: so, i'm thinking maybe an event hook or something isn't getting set
[04:26] <s5fs> dr_willis: 4 in a square is where it's at
[04:26] <dr_willis> she just used the desktops to sort her icons/launchers ;)
[04:26] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu: It is a windows problem. Many Cam didnt agree with Windows and crashed it. I was stuck in a boot loop but got past that and now have the black screen.  I am using two partitions, but one is for my Linux boot and the other for the windows boot.
[04:26] <phanindraramesh> Hai all, are here any TTF debugging tools available in ubuntu?
[04:27] <dr_willis> again  - shes followwing her android habbits on the ubuntu box.
[04:28] <sacarlson> phanindraramesh: ttf debuging?  you making your own fonts?
[04:28] <sambagirl> umm s5fs that's odd
[04:29] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, send copy gedit /etc/fstab and paste please
[04:29] <s5fs> sambagirl: agreed
[04:29] <phanindraramesh> sacarlson, yeah. I have created my own ttf file. But there is some problem with the font.so I want to debug and see what's going wronmg
[04:29] <phanindraramesh> wrong
[04:29] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, *send copy of 'gedit /etc/fstab' and paste please
[04:30] <sambagirl> i looked at the windows 8 betas and what a mess that is. i know off topic i just had to make a comment on that mess.
[04:30] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu:  Where can I find that?
[04:32] <sacarlson> phanindraramesh: you must have already looked at fontforge
[04:32] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, type everything in the parenthesis into terminal and it will open a program called gedit with the text from stab, copy that ans paste it here. is that any easier i'm trying my best lol
[04:33] <phanindraramesh> sacarlson, Yeah I did. It didn't work for me
[04:33] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu: yes thank you, 1 second
[04:33] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, do it from the pc you're dual booting from also
[04:33] <sacarlson> phanindraramesh: can't install it?
[04:33] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, the one with the messed up windows partition
[04:34] <sacarlson> phanindraramesh: should be easy to install with sudo apt-get install fontforge
[04:34] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu: It says no such file or directory
[04:35] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:35] <fl0w> I'm loading a large file using LibreOffice, and I'd like to halt the process of opening in. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and I don't know how to halt the program from trying to run. What I'm specifically looking for is a task manager similar to what I'd find in Windows which allows me to end a process.
[04:35] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu: 12.04 LTS
[04:35] <Areckx> is it safe to run the latest linux kernel on 10.04 lts? 3.4.3 is the latest and my kernel is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046673/ why is the version so low?
[04:37] <ProtekNickz> ?
[04:37] <sacarlson> flow http://www.blog.highub.com/linux/ubuntu-equivalent-to-task-manager/
[04:37] <sacarlson> fl0w:
[04:37] <phanindraramesh> sacarlson, I could install the font. But a letter in the font is not working as it is expected to. Only a half of the letter is shown on the screen, the rest is coming after a few seconds.
[04:38] <sacarlson> phanindraramesh: I would look at it with the available tools
[04:39] <Exploiter> ${color1}Cpu Temperature3 ${alignr}${execi 200 /home/jack/.conky/./color.sh} C | is not showing my variable properly.
[04:39] <Exploiter> here is my color.sh http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046664/
[04:39] <Exploiter> It should show temp like 48*C with wither green, yellow or red color
[04:39] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, are you using an ntfs file system?
[04:39] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu: I think so
[04:39] <Exploiter> somehow its not working, please help
[04:39] <phanindraramesh> sacarlson, I am searching for those tools. If you find any, please tell me
[04:41] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, type 'sudo apt-get install gparted' in terminal
[04:41] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, after that installs open it to look at your partitions and give me the names of the partitions on your drive
[04:44] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu: For some reason it wont open.
[04:44] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu: Although, it opened my update manager
[04:44] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, what i suspect is your problem is that you have your windows partition mounted r/w in ubuntu and you did some things in ubuntu that effected your windows partition because ubuntu doesnt care about windows
[04:44] <fl0w> Thank you sacarlson!
[04:45] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu: Is there something I can do to fix it?
[04:45] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, windows unfortunately doesnt repair as easy as ubuntu and you may have to check with a windows specialist to get the proper help
[04:46] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu: They want me to send in my computer / hard drive and spend 300$ which I do not have at the moment
[04:46] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu: I have already tried.
[04:46] <cassidyjames> Is it possible to turn the chameleonic background in Unity off via dconf?
[04:47] <antstwn> hi there i need some assist here
[04:47] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu: Is there a way to reinstall windows or make a new partition of windows to use? I only need about 30 GB of my hard drive (as Windows) because I am trying to setup my new gaming rig.
[04:47] <antstwn> can u?
[04:47] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, depending on the make of your pc that may not be a wise decision because many pc manufacturers void your waranty after you install linux
[04:47] <Nerf_Jihad> no audio people here today?
[04:48] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu: My warranty expired xD
[04:48] <antstwn> hi nerf_jihad
[04:48] <Nerf_Jihad> antstwn: I don't know where to start with fixing my JACK install. nothing that uses it can make noises, though my sound works in a general sense
[04:49] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, if your computer still has a recovery partition for windows i would start there, basically what you are paying for when you send your comp in is a new windows installation disc. your hd may have one on it
[04:50] <sacarlson> Nerf_Jihad: I havn't player with jack in some time,
[04:50] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu:  ASUS Sucks and decided to not give me a recovery CD. Do you have an idea where in my hard drive / file system the would leave a backup (IF they did)?
[04:51] <Nerf_Jihad> I've also got a few different sound cards that don't like working with each other. I've removed the one that didn't work with linux 3 years ago, but the default hardware for noisemaking is still not set to the one that my speakers are plugged into
[04:51] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, also if manycam is what caused the problem you may want to consider the fact that linux isnt susceptible to malware, dependong on the games you're trying to install linux may be your soulution
[04:52] <Nerf_Jihad> unre
[04:52] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, wine can install most windows games and run them in ubuntu
[04:53] <sacarlson> Nerf_Jihad: seems this guy had some luck http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1978364  oh multi sound cards?  never tried that
[04:53] <Exploiter> how can I output variable from bash script in conky?
[04:53] <sacarlson> Nerf_Jihad: there was that cool mix patch panel for jack wonder if you have that installed
[04:54] <Nerf_Jihad> there's a patchbay button on qjackctl
[04:55] <Nerf_Jihad> unrealpancake: it sounds like manycam is getting between your display and your desktop. If you can boot the livecd and nuke the directory it's installed in, that might fix your system
[04:57] <unrealpancake> lgbtbuntu: I am not trying to install games. I built myself a computer for me and my friend and do not have $200+ to spend on two windows 7 Disks. I cant get Ubuntu to burn the Windows 7 files onto a disc because I dont have enough space on the ubuntu partition
[04:57] <Nerf_Jihad> sacarlson: fixed it. i love you
[04:57] <unrealpancake> Nerf_Jihad: How would I go about doing that?
[04:58] <unrealpancake> Nerf_Jihad: Also I don't have a windows 7 install disc.
[04:58] <Nerf_Jihad> *cough* piracy
[04:58] <unrealpancake> Nerf_Jihad: *cough* yes
[04:58] <unrealpancake> lol
[04:58] <WindBuntu> you can install w8 free
[04:58] <Nerf_Jihad> yes, but then you're running win8
[04:58] <vavoysh> Hey, I'm trying to modify my /etc/fstab so that I can automatically mount some extra hard drives (two of them), and the exact same line works for one of them and not for the other (the only thing that differs is the name). Whenever I run sudo mount -a I get '[mntent]: line 14 in /etc/fstab is bad'. Can anyone help me?
[04:59] <WindBuntu> and dual boot it with 12.04
[04:59] <unrealpancake> Is win8 stable?
[04:59] <Nerf_Jihad> unrealpancake: boot livecd, mount all hard drives from places menu
[04:59] <WindBuntu> yes
[04:59] <Nerf_Jihad> stable yes, good no
[04:59] <unrealpancake> Will they send a Win8 install disc?
[04:59] <WindBuntu> no you can download and burn ut free
[04:59] <WindBuntu> it*
[04:59] <unrealpancake> Nerf_Jihad: livecd?
[05:00] <Nerf_Jihad> how are you booting linux?
[05:00] <WindBuntu> no you must install it
[05:00] <WindBuntu> i like 12.04 better though
[05:00] <lgbtbuntu> hmmm, i dont support pirating win7, sounds fishy to me
[05:00] <WindBuntu> but w8 runs very fast i must admit
[05:01] <unrealpancake> Nerf_Jihad: When I turn on my computer it gives me the option to boot Ubuntu or Windows
[05:01] <Nerf_Jihad> lgbtbuntu: it's relatively gimped, but you can use the pirate disk to repair a fubar install without problems
[05:02] <Nerf_Jihad> unrealpancake: so boot linux, mount your windows partition, open the root directory and go to program files (x86) if you're on an x64 system (if your machine is <2 years old, it should be)
[05:02] <lgbtbuntu> nerf_jihad, are you suggesting that they allready payed for windows before downloading a shared version?
[05:02] <unrealpancake> Nerf_Jihad: After that, then what?
[05:02] <Nerf_Jihad> lgbtbuntu: or they could be cool like me and raid their college's computer / networking department for free OEM codes
[05:03] <Nerf_Jihad> find the manycam install directory and delete it
[05:03] <Nerf_Jihad> then boot windows and report back
[05:03] <unrealpancake> I actually am using a PAID version of windows and im trying to use a "Cracked" / Fresh Install files to fix it
[05:03] <unrealpancake> well thats what I was thinking I could try doing
[05:04] <unrealpancake> Nerf_Jihad: My OS is mounted, now what?
[05:04] <Nerf_Jihad> follow the steps I described above?
[05:04] <unrealpancake> sorry i didnt see that
[05:04] <unrealpancake> I did delte it but thats how I got out of the boot loop
[05:04] <Nerf_Jihad> so now it works?
[05:04] <unrealpancake> no
[05:05] <unrealpancake> it loads the windows animation and then black screens witht he mouse pointer
[05:05] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, i assumed as much. nerf_jihad is just justifying his tuition as part of the use of os's made by microsoft which is also acceptable
[05:05] <Nerf_Jihad> what's the three-finger salute give you?
[05:06] <Nerf_Jihad> or super+R
[05:06] <ProtekNickz> 2 down 1 up i guess?
[05:06] <ProtekNickz> :D
[05:06] <unrealpancake> Nerf_Jihad: Super R?
[05:06] <Nerf_Jihad> ctrl+alt+delete, if you're not sure what I meant by three-finger salute
[05:06] <unrealpancake> oh
[05:07] <unrealpancake> its still black screened
[05:07] <lgbtbuntu> lol
[05:07] <Nerf_Jihad> it has the windows flag on it
[05:07] <Nerf_Jihad> does your mouse pointer move?
[05:07] <unrealpancake> yes
[05:07] <Nerf_Jihad> ...
[05:07] <unrealpancake> I know.
[05:07] <unrealpancake> retarded right?
[05:07] <Nerf_Jihad> this is dark magick
[05:07] <Nerf_Jihad> we must perform an exorcism
[05:07] <unrealpancake> Okay
[05:07] <Nerf_Jihad> do you have a suitable container for the vital portions?
[05:08] <whylovejp> hi
[05:08] <unrealpancake> all motherboards come with a BIOS correct?
[05:08] <whylovejp> is there someone out there
[05:08] <whylovejp> yes
[05:08] <lgbtbuntu> correct
[05:08] <unrealpancake> okay
[05:08] <whylovejp> correct
[05:09] <unrealpancake> I have a Windows "Install Disc" that was downloaded nd I extracted it onto a flash drive.
[05:09] <aeon-ltd> or uefi
[05:09] <vavoysh> Hey, I'm trying to modify my /etc/fstab so that I can automatically mount some extra hard drives (two of them), and the exact same line works for one of them and not for the other (the only thing that differs is the name). Whenever I run sudo mount -a I get '[mntent]: line 14 in /etc/fstab is bad'. Can anyone help me?
[05:09] <unrealpancake> (originally it was a .iso)
[05:09] <whylovejp> yeah
[05:09] <whylovejp> and then
[05:09] <whylovejp> .....
[05:09] <unrealpancake> Now
[05:09] <unrealpancake> say I install the files
[05:10] <mneptok> unrealpancake: Windows support in ##windows
[05:10] <sacarlson> unrealpancake: I think I've seen that done on pendrive.com or something like that
[05:10] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, try using brasero to burn the iso to a cd i dont think extracting the files will work
[05:10] <unrealpancake> will I NEED the product key at install or can I enter it in later?
[05:11] <lgbtbuntu> write it down for safe measure
[05:11] <unrealpancake> Lol Im using a cracker for the product key
[05:11] <lgbtbuntu> you will prbably need it for install
[05:11] <whylovejp> windows xp your have to do it at install
[05:11] <Nerf_Jihad> unrealpancake: you will *need* the product key
[05:11] <whylovejp> windows 7 not
[05:11] <mneptok> *ahem* this is #ubuntu
[05:11] <unrealpancake> its Win 7
[05:11] <unrealpancake> ahh yes
[05:12] <mneptok> let's all stop the Win licensing questions.
[05:12] <Nerf_Jihad> well he was trying to use ubuntu to fix it
[05:12] <mneptok> (and answers)
[05:12] <whylovejp> windows 7 your can enter it after U have install it
[05:12] <lgbtbuntu> yeah we know mneptok this dood doesnt know the deff between a windows related problem and a problem in windows caused by ubuntu because he mounted both drives in ubunt
[05:13] <whylovejp> windows 8 release preview you have to enter the key
[05:13] <whylovejp> ok
[05:13] <whylovejp> i ll stop
[05:13] <whylovejp> i am sorry
[05:13] <whylovejp> i just new here
[05:14] <whylovejp> so i don't know your guys don't talk about windows
[05:14] <lgbtbuntu> multipass?
[05:15] <whylovejp> mneptok
[05:15] <lgbtbuntu> fe reference
[05:16] <mneptok> whylovejp: yes?
[05:17] <mneptok> lgbtbuntu: i think it's spelled "leeloodallasmooltipaas"
[05:18] <lgbtbuntu> mneptok: mahnaymeis coobandalas?
[05:18] <ProtekNickz> Need Help: Distro: ubuntu 12.04, Problem: when i'm using PC for a while the Desktop does some strange things like, when i open a terminal i cant type in it, also i cant move any "windows" via the title bar, i can still loas apps and stuff but their like on another layer even though their not
[05:18] <ProtekNickz> oh and menu stop functioning
[05:20] <mi4> I connect to the internet using DSL connection, where I input my username, servicename and password, any suggestions on in which file is  the above configuration information stored ?
[05:21] <ProtekNickz> any 1?
[05:23] <ProtekNickz> quit
[05:23] <bargash> hello
[05:23] <lgbtbuntu> hold shift after post and selcts recovery mode and let it do it's thing proteknickz
[05:24] <unrealpancake> Nerf_Jihad: I know this is somewhat windows, but is there a way to find your windows product key from Ubuntu?
[05:24] <Nerf_Jihad> not that I know of, it's hashed in the registry
[05:24] <unrealpancake> (sorry in advance for it being somewhat windows)
[05:24] <lgbtbuntu> unrealpancake, probably if you figure it out tell us
[05:25] <ruby_on_tails> is there anything on ubuntu which can open mssql .bak files ?
[05:25] <bargash> plz help me, is there a way to copy to media from nautilus edit option_
[05:25] <bargash> ?
[05:28] <Nerf_Jihad> copy to media?
[05:28] <Nerf_Jihad> what kind of media?
[05:29] <bargash> Nerf_Jihad:  open nautilus then i select a file,go to edit copy to and move to,right?
[05:30] <bargash> Nerf_Jihad:  just i can copy to or move to desktop or home folder,how can i add to media?
[05:30] <Alan502> Hi, can someone help me run a script when wlan0 connects?
[05:31] <mobius420> greetings #ubuntu
[05:31] <Nerf_Jihad> bargash: what do you mean by "media", though?
[05:31] <Nerf_Jihad> the folder /media/ is a system folder for stuff like hard drives and cds
[05:32] <bargash> Nerf_Jihad:  i mean how can i copy to files to my another hard disk?
[05:32] <Nerf_Jihad> ah
[05:32] <Nerf_Jihad> select the files you want to copy
[05:32] <Nerf_Jihad> ctrl + C
[05:32] <Nerf_Jihad> navigate into the directory you want to copy them to in nautilus
[05:32] <Nerf_Jihad> Ctrl + V
[05:33] <bargash> Nerf_Jihad:  yes i know that but i mean if from the same window go to edit and copy to my /media/ not to home folder and desktop
[05:34] <mobius420> I am connected to the internet using a wrt54g ver.2 in client bridge mode via dd-wrt firmware
[05:34] <Nerf_Jihad> ...those are english words, but for the life of me I cannot distill from them the sentiment you are trying to convey
[05:35] <mobius420> I am finding that the connection speeds are waay faster than  when i use my laptop's integrated wifi card
[05:35] <mobius420> is that normal?
[05:35] <Nerf_Jihad> mobius420: yes
[05:35] <mobius420> and if it is,  why is the router able to send/receive data sooo much faster than my wifi card?
[05:35] <mobius420> is just bulkier equipment?
[05:35] <mobius420> more "robust"?
[05:36] <Nerf_Jihad> more blue engineering smoke
[05:36] <mobius420> :P
[05:36] <bargash> Nerf_Jihad:  so there is no way to do that :(
[05:36] <agc93> If I currently have /home on a separate partition, is there a way to return it to a subdirectory of / without using the Live CD?
[05:37] <mobius420> also,  since I left ESSID broadcast "on" does that mean that my wrt54g ver.2 router is currently acting like a range expander for the network I am on>
[05:37] <mobius420> would that make the network visible to other wifi capable devices to connect to the network via my router?
[05:37] <Nerf_Jihad> bargash: so you want to be able to send files directly to your hard drive from the "edit - send to..." menu?
[05:37] <bargash> Nerf_Jihad:  yep
[05:37] <mobius420> it all feels kind of odd because ifconfig tells me all wireless connections are down
[05:38] <Nerf_Jihad> bargash: and you're asking how exactly to add it to that menu since it's not there already
[05:38] <mobius420> of course they are,  I am physically connected to the wrt54g
[05:38] <Nerf_Jihad> more liquor is always the answer
[05:38] <bargash> Nerf_Jihad:  just i am asking friend,coz this way can help me too much
[05:38] <kaos> Having issues with Intel HDA audio after running some updates on 12.04 a few nights ago.  Hardware works under a Mint Live CD.  The system detects the hardware correctly and everything looks good.  Sounds appear to play, but nothing is coming out of the speakers.  Nothing is muted as verified by alsamixer and I checked pavucontrol also.
[05:39] <mobius420> I'm wondering if i can disconnect the LAN cable to the wrt54g and connect to the wrt54g via wifi and still be able to access the WAN
[05:39] <Nerf_Jihad> http://sushantbhosale.wordpress.com/2011/10/13/send-to-script-for-nautilus-in-ubuntu/ bargash
[05:39] <mobius420> only way to find out is try
[05:39] <mputtr> does anyone here have experience with using zoneminder?
[05:39] <mobius420> I am quite pleased at how fast the connection is :D
[05:39] <mobius420> incredible
[05:40] <mobius420> I am going to obtain every one of these routers I can get my hands on
[05:40] <Nerf_Jihad> mobius420: how are you connecting to it?
[05:40] <mobius420> I am currently connecting to the wrt54g which is in bridged client mode
[05:40] <mobius420> via ethernet cable
[05:40] <Nerf_Jihad> so you're using it like a big ugly network card
[05:40] <mobius420> so it shows up like a cabled connection
[05:40] <mobius420> ecactly
[05:41] <mobius420> exactly
[05:41] <mobius420> a big ugly network card :P
[05:41] <mobius420> but DANG its strong
[05:41] <mobius420> :P
[05:41] <Nerf_Jihad> lol, no kidding
[05:41] <mobius420> it's almost as fast as when I physically connected to the WAN-enabled AP
[05:41] <Nerf_Jihad> I got a V6 I use sporadically to knock my neighbors' apple-based music appliance offline
[05:41] <mobius420> for realz
[05:42] <mobius420> :D
[05:42] <mobius420> there is a nifty disassociation attack for thah
[05:42] <mobius420> and it really works
[05:42] <Nerf_Jihad> <_< much as I appreciate the Jackson 5, I don't think they're appropriate at 0400 on a tuesday
[05:42] <Arash> !help
[05:42] <mobius420> I accidentally make a wifi jammer using some wireless stereo speakers once
[05:42] <Arash> !patience
[05:43] <mobius420> it was exceedingly effective
[05:43] <UndiFineD> mobius420, did you flash your router with dd-wrt / openwrt ?
[05:43] <Arash> !wtf
[05:43] <mobius420> UndiFineD,  yeppers
[05:43] <Nerf_Jihad> mobius420: you wanna see power? Asus RT-N16 with DD-WRT
[05:43] <UndiFineD> dd-wrt works really well for me
[05:43] <agc93> Arash: who are you aiming these at?
[05:44] <mobius420> I run a small computer repair shop in colorado, and I've used this firmware for a while now,  mostly because it's so easy to configure VPN with it
[05:44] <Arash> nobody just testing the bot
[05:44] <agc93> try /msg ubottu next time
[05:44] <agc93> i think that should work
[05:44] <mobius420> but this is the first time ive taken a moment to use it in bridged client mode on the wifi
[05:44] <Nisstyre> Who else is experiencing this bug with Firefox where the mouse pointer is locked in a grab state (and thus requires killing Firefox)? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736811
[05:44] <Nisstyre> I'm trying to get an idea of when this happens
[05:44] <Nerf_Jihad> primary reason I installed it: VPN to my home network to get to websites through a zealous packet filter
[05:44] <mobius420> the only thing I donit like about it is that I cannot seem to access the router console while connected to the WAN-live AP
[05:45] <mobius420> or either router's console for that matter
[05:45] <mobius420> :?
[05:45] <karthick87> Is there any tool to customize live cd ?
[05:45] <agc93> karthick87: there are many. What are you tring to do?
[05:45] <UndiFineD> karthick87, yes it is uck
[05:45] <mobius420> karthick87,  yes there is , but I cannot remember the name of it. It has a graphical menu which asks you what all you want to bundle on your cd and everything
[05:45] <Nerf_Jihad> you direct your http requests through your own apache server and pull blocked content through the encrypted pipe
[05:45] <karthick87> agc93: I need to install some additional softwares..
[05:46] <mobius420> Nerf_Jihad,  that sounds like i2p or TOR
[05:46] <mobius420> i2p is getting quite robust these days
[05:46] <mobius420> jrandom is long gone though :(   that's if he was ever a real person to begin with
[05:46] <agc93> karthick87: i believe the tool is called Ubuntu Customisation Kit but it can also be done manually
[05:46] <Nerf_Jihad> mobius420: yeah, but ghetto, held together with duct tape, and really cool to set up in 20 minutes in front of a flabbergasted IT guy who didn't believe I could do it
[05:47] <OccupyDemonoid> How can I checksum a file with Ubuntu? I can only find information on how to checksum the ISOs, but not actual files.
[05:47] <mobius420> :D
[05:47] <agc93> mobius420 nerf_jihad should this be in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[05:47] <mobius420> niiice
[05:47] <Nerf_Jihad> sorry agc93, nerd cred was being displayed
[05:47] <karthick87> agc: I need to install samba, and change the default samba configuration file..
[05:47] <agc93> try this karthick87 http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[05:48] <mobius420> is there an alternative to samba for browsing windows network shares in linux?
[05:48] <agc93> mobius420: not that i know of. Why would you need one?
[05:48] <mobius420> it might have been because the windows share i was browsing was in vista,  but if I did anything at all on the vista machine,  the data transfers I was doing from linux to vista would error out
[05:48] <agc93> karthick87 if you want to get seriously into it you could also try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[05:48] <agc93> mobius420: yeah, thats not a problem with samba/smb
[05:49] <mobius420> if i even clicked on *any* thing
[05:49] <mobius420> yeah i thought no t
[05:49] <agc93> Thats either vista or one of your PCs doing that
[05:49] <mobius420>  vista is a brittle old thing
[05:49] <mobius420> i will test with some other version
[05:49] <agc93> I use Samba to browse my Win7 shares and it does it perfectly
[05:50] <OccupyDemonoid> How can I checksum a file with Ubuntu? I can only find information on how to checksum the ISOs, but not actual files.
[05:50] <agc93> you can install applications to do it. There are no built-in checksummers in Ubuntu
[05:51] <agc93> is it an md5 checksum?
 How can I checksum a file with Ubuntu?  its called md5.. google it
[05:51] <dr_willis> !md5
[05:51] <Sidvee> How to open a pdf from terminal?
[05:51] <OccupyDemonoid> agc93, no it is not, it is just labeled as checksum on the HTC website.
[05:51] <dr_willis> pdfviewerapp foo.pdf
[05:51] <agc93> dr_willis he did kinda say he didnt want to do the ISO's checksum
[05:51] <dr_willis> agc93:  i did kinda just join..
[05:51] <Sidvee> dr_willis: Thanks.
[05:52] <Kartagis> Sidvee: use evince file.pdf
[05:52] <agc93> dr_willis ah thats cool
[05:52] <PlowRox> nn peeps
[05:52] <OccupyDemonoid> PlowRox, I understand how to use MD5 Checksums just fine.
[05:52] <agc93> occupydemonoid, if its md5 which it probably is if it doesnt say otherwise, try searching md5 in the Ubuntu Software center and see what it says
[05:52] <Sidvee> Is there any command to run a something from terminal using default application.
[05:52] <dr_willis> isent theres some generic 'load file with default gnome app based on mime' command?
[05:53] <agc93> occupydemonoid if you known how to use md5's why are you asking us?
[05:53] <dr_willis> i forget its name. :)  'start' perhaps.
[05:53] <mobius420> :D
[05:53] <zykotick9> Sidvee: there are two actually: "xdg-open foo" and "gnome-open foo" (not 100% on the gnome one, you'd need to test)
[05:53] <Kartagis> does anybody feel like doing sound card debugging? I have a SiS 7012 and my microphone isn't workinh
[05:53] <Kartagis> working*
[05:53] <OccupyDemonoid> agc93, it doesn't seem to be MD5. I have downloaded the file a few times and every time it pulls up a different, longer checksum.
[05:54] <agc93> hang on, the same file is giving you different hashes at different times?
[05:54] <agc93> if thats the case, its not a checksum
[05:54] <agc93> That kind of goes against how checksums (be they MD5, SHA1 or anything else) work
[05:55] <OccupyDemonoid> agc93, I kept getting the same checksum everytime from I ran MD5 and it is longer than the one HTC provided.
[05:56] <agc93> Have you tried SHA1? Whats the website url where you found the checksum?
[05:56] <Sidvee> zykotick9: Cool man! Genius. :D Worked for pdf. :)
[05:57] <OccupyDemonoid> agc93, I have not tried SHA1 and I got it from here http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/unlock-instructions/page-2
[05:58] <bargash> Nerf_Jihad:  i try to burn the ubuntu final .iso with  the brasero burner and it takes too long time when it shows creating image checksum
[05:58] <bargash> Nerf_Jihad:  is that mean there is an error?
[05:59] <Nerf_Jihad> making a checksum of 700mb takes some time
[05:59] <Nerf_Jihad> it's applying high-order maths to it and giving you meaningful / semi-meaningful output. it'll tell you if there's an error, usually
[06:00] <bargash> Nerf_Jihad:  so which program burner is good coz i want to install the latest ubuntu version lts
[06:00] <Nerf_Jihad> brasero is what I use
[06:01] <bargash> Nerf_Jihad:  i stopped on 12 minutes, coz it cant be done
[06:01]  * zykotick9 wishes there was a gnome equivalant to k3b (but kde libs for 1 apps is overkill)
[06:01] <agc93> occupydemonoid that site needs registration, which i havent got. In what context or anything does it say checksum? How long is the checksum?
[06:04] <OccupyDemonoid> agc93, it turned out it was md5 and I just kept getting bad downloads. v.v First time that ever happened to me.
[06:05] <Nerf_Jihad> bargash: you might consider disabling verification if you know that the image itself is valid
[06:05] <agc93> but the hash was a different length? Thats not usually possible...
[06:05] <yharrow> why doesnt ubuntu support intel video cards?
[06:05] <OccupyDemonoid> agc93, I most likely counted wrong. It is late after all. :)
[06:06] <Arash> how can I run zenmap with root ? is there any other way not to use terminal ?
[06:06] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: what do you mean by "support"?
[06:06] <OccupyDemonoid> yharrow, It supports mine. What type do you have?
[06:06] <agc93> yharrow they do? What makes you say that?
[06:06] <yharrow> i can get 2d rendering
[06:06] <Nerf_Jihad> Arash: sudo zenmap
[06:06] <yharrow> but 3d does not work
[06:06] <yharrow> it slow as shit
[06:06] <yharrow> and useless :(
[06:06] <FloodBot1> yharrow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:06] <Arash> I know that but is there any other way ?
[06:06] <SDX> Is there a way to trim the output of acpi -t down to the temperature?
[06:06] <Nerf_Jihad> Arash: also, gksu zenmap
[06:06] <dr_willis> yharrow:  all my intel work very well. some intel vidoe chipsets were sort of outsourced i recall reading. so their linux support is not as well done.
[06:06] <agc93> SDX, pipe the output to cut. Check the man page for more information
[06:07] <SDX> Thank you.
[06:07] <yharrow> dr_willis its a brand new computer and the video card isnt evne usable
[06:07] <Arash> GKSU is a nice one
[06:07] <Arash> thanks ;)
[06:07] <agc93> yharrow, my intel boards have all worked quite well
[06:07] <yharrow> dr_willis  i have a optimus nvidia card which i gave up on using
[06:07] <yharrow> dr_willis: now i just want the intel to wokr
[06:07] <dr_willis> yharrow:  'brand new' means it so new any issues/driver updates have not been included in the current ubuntu kernel perhaps. there are ppa;'s with newer cutting edge kernels and intel drivers
[06:07] <yharrow> dr_willis: and i cant even have that
[06:08] <agc93> what didnt work with the NVIDIA?
[06:08] <yharrow> agc93: my computer has no 3d support at all
[06:08] <yharrow> agc93: its worse than my pc from 15 years ago
[06:08] <dr_willis> Optimus is a whole addationa layer of problems. due to nvidia basically  thumbing their noses at linux in its support. so its very much a work in progress
[06:09] <yharrow> dr_willis: but i gave up on it. i just want hte intel onboard to work now
[06:09] <agc93> oh, sorry didnt realise it was an optimus. Yes, they are pretty tricky. Have you tried Additional Drivers (Jockey-gtk) to see if there is anything?
[06:09] <yharrow> no there isnt
[06:09] <yharrow> in the livecd i had hw accel
[06:09] <agc93> also remember that intel onboards aren't always very good to begin with... unless they're *really*new
[06:09] <dr_willis> optimuius/dual video - is the latest 'winmodem' hardware disaster. ;(
[06:09] <yharrow> but now i lost it
[06:10] <tking0036> does anyone here use broadcom-sta?
[06:10] <agc93> hang on, in the livecd, you had acceleration?
[06:10] <yharrow> yes
[06:10] <rkhshm> Im having a weird problem with 11.10
[06:10] <yharrow> for intel i think it was
[06:10] <yharrow> i cant imagine it was for nvidia by default
[06:10] <yharrow> now its gone
[06:10] <OccupyDemonoid> rkhshm, what is your problems?
[06:10] <rkhshm> when i enter the login screen i can see that my trackpad is working.. But when after i login the track pad fails to work
[06:10] <agc93> Then you're probably using the wrong X Driver now. Anyone know if the Live CD has a xorg.conf by default?
[06:10] <rkhshm> I'm using T410
[06:11] <dr_willis> agc93:  it shouldent. it should auto configure.
[06:11] <agc93> bugger. That was the best way i knew of checking current driver...
[06:11] <ico> just wondering, how is the support of AMD dynamic swithicng laptops? do they work in Ubuntu or they also fail?
[06:11] <dr_willis> boot live cd and see wht it does and what driver its using perhaps.
[06:11] <OccupyDemonoid> rkhshm, does it disappear or does it stop moving?
[06:11] <yharrow> dr_willis: maybe i should autocinfigure then?
[06:11] <dr_willis> May ne using tghe neovu driver
[06:11] <agc93> dr_willis, that seems likely. nouveau is pretty slow on 3d
[06:11] <agc93> unless its on vesa or some other nonsense
[06:11] <rkhshm> OccupyDemonoid: it stops moving.. I can see the mouse on the screen.. But any movement on the trackpads wont reflect the same with the mouse
[06:11] <dr_willis> To have X auto configure you just reemove your xorg.conf file (or rename it)
[06:12] <rkhshm> but at the login screen if i try the same.. It works
[06:12] <yharrow> i removed it serveral times
[06:12] <yharrow> i even switched to an earlier kernel
[06:12] <rkhshm> OccupyDemonoid: All other keys are working fine
[06:12] <yharrow> i been at this since 3 in the monring
[06:12] <yharrow> or 4
[06:13] <yharrow> im spneding close to a day on this
[06:13] <yharrow> and nobody can help me
[06:13] <yharrow> with anything
[06:13] <dr_willis> the optimus stuf fis so cutting edge.. thats not supriuseing
[06:13] <yharrow> dr_willis: i gave up on it halfway
[06:13] <yharrow> now i just want intel to work
[06:13] <yharrow> and nobody can help me with that either
[06:13] <dr_willis> its still using ghe optimus chipset  so xan be part of the issue
[06:14] <yharrow> dr_willis: than why did the livecd work
[06:14] <yharrow> whey did it work in the livecd
[06:14] <yharrow> and what choice do i have anyway
[06:14] <yharrow> i only have one computer
[06:14] <dr_willis> yharrow:  what did? you could boot the live cd now and see what card/driver its using.
[06:15] <yharrow> dr_willis: is it so hard to trouble shoota intel video card?
[06:15] <yharrow> if i knew where to start i could google
[06:15] <dr_willis> yharrow:  its not 'just' an intel video card.
[06:15] <yharrow> but i have no idea where to even begin
[06:15] <yharrow> dr_willis, i just wnat to use the intel
[06:15] <dr_willis> id start with askubuntu.com and the forums.
[06:15] <yharrow> i dont care about nvidia anymore
[06:16] <dr_willis> yharrow:  yes.. we get that. BUT its not like theeres some switch that totally turns off the optimus/nvidia stuff. the 2 are still in there and can be causeing issues
[06:16] <yharrow> dr_willis: than how come it worked on the livecd?
[06:16] <dr_willis> there might be some bios settings.  might not be.
[06:16] <dr_willis> 'it' meaning what..... the nvidia? the intel?
[06:16] <yharrow> i cant access bios cuz my screen wont turn on till the operating system loads
[06:17] <yharrow> dr_willis: i cant imagine nvidia was working so i will assume intel
[06:17] <dr_willis> boot a live cd and verify exctly whqt the live cd is using.
[06:17] <dr_willis> its also possible some of the other tweaking you did to get the other stuff wworking earlier is now causing issues.
[06:18] <yharrow> i have no idea how to do that
[06:18] <dr_willis> boot live cd.. look at th xorg logs.
[06:18] <yharrow> its all gibberish to me
[06:18] <vampirnata> yharrow: you need to drop the attitude though. No one here is "required" to help.
[06:18] <Nerf_Jihad> ^this
[06:18] <yharrow> vampirnata: im sorry if u feel i have an attitude
[06:18] <dr_willis> you could always pastebin the logs for people to look at..
[06:19] <dwarder> hello i just got my new 9.04 ubuntu vps, it seems that it no longer can sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade, are there ways to upgrade this vps to lates distro?
[06:19] <Nerf_Jihad> ^this too
[06:19] <OccupyDemonoid> rkhshm, sorry I didn't reply sooner. I didn't see the notification. When that happened to me, I just had to do updates and it cleared up for me.
[06:19] <yharrow> vampirnata: i won't ask for help then if u dont want me too. i just came here cuz ppl said i would get help here
[06:19] <jagginess> yharrow, maybe your manufacturer disabled 'show bios boot' even though you can still hit the default bios setup key (check your manual)
[06:19] <yharrow> vampirnata: im sorry for insulting u
[06:19] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow, hammer on tab, f1, esc, f11, f12, insert, and delete
[06:19] <vampirnata> I never said you shouldn't ask for help...
[06:20] <yharrow> vampirnata: u said i have an attitude like i expectedppl to help me
[06:20] <yharrow> and its true i do
[06:20] <yharrow> so im saying
[06:20] <yharrow> i understand that u dont hav eto help me
[06:20] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: you're also being obstinate and argumentative instead of trying to meet us halfway. we're not the ones sitting at your computer
[06:20] <yharrow> *sigh*
[06:20] <yharrow> I just need someoen to tell me what to do
[06:20] <Nerf_Jihad> we need more information than what you're giving us. the xorg logs would be very helpful to us nerd types in diagnosing your problem
[06:21] <vampirnata> and there's the problem :(
[06:21] <dr_willis> so... boot the live cd.. come  back when its running...
[06:21] <vampirnata> ^
[06:21] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: i get all that but when ppl say things lik "boot the live cd and chc k the drives" it doesnt help me
[06:21] <yharrow> cuz i have no idea how to chck drivers
[06:21] <vampirnata> but he's said to boot the live cd and come back here
[06:21] <Nerf_Jihad> right, but booting the livecd should be well within your realm of knowledge
[06:22] <yharrow> yeh
[06:22] <yharrow> is there a wiki or something i should read before asking for help here?
[06:22] <yharrow> it seems im offending alot of ppl
[06:22] <jagginess> yharrow, when you say it's "all gibberish to me".. it tells me you want a quick fix without giving anybody feedback. So you're pretty much on your own. (You can't learn)
[06:22] <vampirnata> i would suggest always reading at least through the install docs
[06:22] <Nerf_Jihad> getting down off the cross for a few minutes would help greatly
[06:23] <vampirnata> google ubuntu install documentation
[06:23] <vampirnata> read through that so at least you understand a little
[06:23] <yharrow> jagginess: yeh that comment was out of line even if it was a result of my exasperation
[06:23] <Nerf_Jihad> we're not hiding the secret to fixing your computer, we genuinely don't have a clue about your specific problem without this specific information that you're very firmly *not giving us*
[06:23] <jagginess> yharrow, have a nice day. try google.
[06:23] <yharrow> jagginess i was basically apologizing
[06:23] <yharrow> ><
[06:24] <vampirnata> you're wasting time. go boot the livecd
[06:24] <Nerf_Jihad> you shouldn't have to qualify the verb "apologizing" but I digress. boot the livecd, tell us when it's up
[06:24] <yharrow> vampirnata: i am i just dont like the idea of ppl being upset with me
[06:24] <dr_willis> where are the defauklt x logs. i forget...
[06:24] <yharrow> so i was trying to clear the air
[06:25] <Nerf_Jihad> /var/log/xorg.<number>.log
[06:25] <vampirnata> to be honest i think the only person upset here is you :)
[06:25] <OccupyDemonoid> yharrow, dude, my sixty year old mom understands "Oh, I just have to restart my computer and boot off of a LiveCD of Ubuntu and come back here after I install XChat or go to Meebit.com to get help."
[06:26] <Nerf_Jihad> OccupyDemonoid: freenode banned mibbit
[06:26] <dr_willis> isent there a log file in the home dir also? but thats the log of the window manager errors and so forth. not on a ubuntu box right now so i xant look.
[06:26] <yharrow> OccupyDemonoid: i'm doing it, like i said i was just making sure ppl werent mad at me.
[06:26] <dwarder> will i be able to upgrade my 9.04 with sudo do-release-upgrade ?
[06:26] <OccupyDemonoid> I thought it was spelled wrong. I never knew Freenode banned it though. :)
[06:26] <dwarder> this is VPS
[06:27] <dwarder> over ssh
[06:27] <dr_willis> dwarder:  its possible the vps providers dont want you to.
[06:27] <OccupyDemonoid> dwarder, yes, but that could break something.
[06:27] <dwarder> OccupyDemonoid: do i need a serial console to finish the upgrade??
[06:28] <Exploiter> can anyonte tell me what is average CPU load for AMD athlon x 64 CPU? mine is 1.77 1.89 1.75 now
[06:28] <dr_willis> i wouldent want to do a  a release upgrade over ssh.. ;)
[06:28] <ekaj> Is it possible to change your broadcast address?
[06:28] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: yes, but that's generally something that breaks your networking
[06:28] <dwarder> dr_willis: it is imposible ove ssh?
[06:28] <dwarder> over*
[06:28] <dr_willis> dwarder:  if it screws up... then what?
[06:29] <Nerf_Jihad> dwarder: no, but if it breaks, you can't get back in to fix it
[06:29] <ekaj> Nerf, I don't really know much about networking, trying to add a lubuntu comp to a server 2k3 network
[06:29] <OccupyDemonoid> dwarder, ssh will be fine, but I know with my VPS, when I did a dist upgrade, it broke the system and I had to reinstall the OS. You should check to see if they provide a different, newer image to install a newer version of Ubuntu.
[06:29] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: in what context of 'add'?
[06:29] <Nerf_Jihad> join it to the domain? integrate it as a mail server?
[06:30] <ekaj> join it to the domain, and I can't get the internet to work although it's connected to the network
[06:30] <Nerf_Jihad> can you ping?
[06:30] <OccupyDemonoid> dwarder, Well, at least the VPS providers I have had had a option to reinstall the OS.
[06:30] <sekim> Morning.... I think the SSL certifiate for landscape.canonical.com has expired???
[06:30] <ekaj> yes
[06:30] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: can you ping outside the network?
[06:30] <dwarder> OccupyDemonoid: i see
[06:31] <ekaj> well, I tried to ping an address, it got the IP but it freezes on the "PING (WEBSITE) (ip) etc..." part
[06:32] <OccupyDemonoid> dwarder, that would be the best bet to upgrade because then you won't have to worry about it breaking. In my case it was 10.04 LTS breaking when I upgraded it to 12.04 LTS
[06:32] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: is this linux box authorized by the networking gods?
[06:32] <ekaj> by the admins?
[06:33] <Nerf_Jihad> *cough*
[06:33] <Nerf_Jihad> same diff
[06:33] <ekaj> yes =p me
[06:33] <ekaj> I set up the XP comp to the domain / internet fine, just stumbling with linux
[06:33] <Nerf_Jihad> do you have any sort of perimeter defenses? anti-user goofing off countermeasures?
[06:33] <OccupyDemonoid> Nerf_Jihad, sorry to be off topic but I just noticed I love your username. Only, the sad part is, it reminds me of Battlefield 3.
[06:33] <ekaj> nope
[06:34] <Nerf_Jihad> OccupyDemonoid: used to be Nerd Jihad, but I typoed it and liked it better
[06:34] <OccupyDemonoid> Either way works. :)
[06:34] <Nerf_Jihad> now it makes me seem all deep and anti-war / anti-religion / anti-fundamentalism
[06:34] <dr_willis> but in a child safe way...
[06:35] <Nerf_Jihad> ed-zackery
[06:35] <fl0w> So I was in Vim working on something and I pressed something (sigh) and now I have a copy of that document running in the background. I can see when I run "jobs", as stopped - but I don't know how to pick it up or remove it?
[06:35] <sekim> Does anybody know where I should report that Landscape is buggered?
[06:35] <Nerf_Jihad> fl0w: fg
[06:35] <ekaj> lawn and garden department
[06:35] <lamaz> :)
[06:35] <ekaj> Nerf, and ideas?
[06:35] <fl0w> Nerf_Jihad: Oh, thanks. What did I press?
[06:35] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: hrm... what's mtr www.google.com give you?
[06:35] <dwarder> OccupyDemonoid: ok i'll just do do-release-upgrade now
[06:36] <Nerf_Jihad> fl0w: ctrl + z
[06:36] <dr_willis> fl0w:  ctrl-z perhaps
[06:36] <OccupyDemonoid> dwarder, make sure all of your data is backed up that you want just in case.
[06:36] <ekaj> mtr?
[06:36] <Nerf_Jihad> it's ping and traceroute on steroids
[06:36] <ekaj> rofl
[06:36] <Nerf_Jihad> live stats of the connection
[06:36] <dwarder> OccupyDemonoid: just bought this vps
[06:36] <ekaj> okay, it's just showing a blank outline atm
[06:36] <ekaj> of the tables and stuff, no real data besides Sol (0.0.0.0) in upper left
[06:37] <Nerf_Jihad> what's your ifconfig say?
[06:37] <dwarder> An upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool.
[06:37] <Nerf_Jihad> OH
[06:37] <dwarder> what tool should i use?
[06:37] <Nerf_Jihad> dhclient eth0
[06:38] <ekaj> eth0: iner addr 10.0.0.12, bcast 10.0.1.255, mask 255.255.254.0
[06:38] <Nerf_Jihad> yup, you're in local mode
[06:38] <Nerf_Jihad> unless...
[06:38] <ekaj> it's supposed to be
[06:38] <ekaj> I think...
[06:39] <ekaj> I have a desktop plugged into my switch's internet port to share the connection
[06:39] <Nerf_Jihad> maybe?
[06:39] <dwarder> An upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool. tool is do-relase-upgrade, what tool should i use instead
[06:39] <dwarder> ?
[06:39] <ekaj> well, shouldn't the broadcast and inet addresses match?
[06:40] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: inet address is your boxen, bcast is how it shouts at everything to find new stuff
[06:40] <ekaj> boxen?
[06:40] <Nerf_Jihad> box + oxen = boxen
[06:40] <ekaj> so the other computers don't really need to know the inet addr?
[06:40] <ekaj> **broadcast
[06:41] <Nerf_Jihad> the other computers have the same broadcast address, if they're set up right
[06:41] <Nerf_Jihad> what's your gateway?
[06:41] <ekaj> 10.0.0.10
[06:41] <Nerf_Jihad> and ping 10.0.0.10 works?
[06:41] <ekaj> yes
[06:42] <Nerf_Jihad> and you didn't unplug your uplink to the rest of the world when you moved cables around on the switch?
[06:42] <yharrow> can anyone help me?
[06:42] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: you're back!
[06:42] <ekaj> the internet? no, the other two computers still have internet, and thiscomputer can ping websites but only gets an IP address
[06:42] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: yeh sorry
[06:42] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: so browsing by ip address doesn't work either?
[06:42] <ekaj> bad cable possibly?
[06:42] <ekaj> haven't tried that yet
[06:43] <Nerf_Jihad> bad cable would mean that you weren't getting *anything*
[06:43] <Nerf_Jihad> or intermittently getting things, only when the cable was in a specific orientation
[06:43] <yharrow> can someone help me?
[06:43] <ekaj> hm okay
[06:43] <ekaj> yharrow ask the question.
[06:44] <yharrow> how do i find out what drivers are being used
[06:44] <ekaj> entering the ip address does the same thing -.-
[06:44] <yharrow> or how do i learn to read xorg logs?
[06:44] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: paste the logs somewhere and give us the link
[06:44] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: what same thing?
[06:44] <ekaj> god this is frustrating
[06:45] <ekaj> webpage is not available, operation timed out
[06:45] <yharrow> i was told not to take advantage of ppl so i think i should learn how to read xorg logs. I'm not sure what im allowed to ask so im being careful
[06:45] <dr_willis> pastebinit command makes it easier to paste files.
[06:45] <Nerf_Jihad> you're not sharing an ip address with anything else?
[06:46] <dr_willis> we asked you to pastebin the logs earlier ;)
[06:46] <fishbait> how do i check the current speed of my cpu?
[06:46] <ekaj> nope, only have 0.10, .11, and .12 in use atm
[06:46] <Nerf_Jihad> 12 is your win box?
[06:46] <ekaj> 10 and 11 are, 12 is lubuntu
[06:46] <dr_willis> i think the logs are in /var/log/ but i dont know the full path. you will have to look
[06:46] <Nerf_Jihad> wait
[06:46] <Nerf_Jihad> 10 is a box, not a router?
[06:46] <yharrow> dr_willis: the guy i was speaking to earlier was yelling at me for telling him that i cant read pastebin logs. but ok ill post them
[06:46] <ekaj> 1 sec
[06:46] <ekaj> yeah
[06:46] <ekaj> 10.0.0.1 is the router
[06:46] <Nerf_Jihad> set your gateway to 10.0.0.1
[06:47] <Nerf_Jihad> er
[06:47] <ekaj> eh
[06:47] <dr_willis> yharrow:  no he was annoyed that you kept gaveing excuses and not doing wwhat we asked when we were trying to help.'
[06:47] <ekaj> the Server 2K3 is set up to do DHCP
[06:47] <ekaj> behind the router
[06:47] <yharrow> dr_willis i thought it was a final answer like "go read the logs on ur own and be done here"
[06:47] <Nerf_Jihad> route add default gw 192.168.1.129
[06:47] <Nerf_Jihad> er
[06:47] <Nerf_Jihad> route add default gw 10.0.0.1
[06:47] <dr_willis> yharrow:  theres basically some 'Driver' lines in the log files. but  thats aboiut all i rember of them
[06:47] <ekaj> but the gateway (the server) is 10.0.0.10
[06:47] <ekaj> and that's how the XP box is set up
[06:48] <yharrow> im googling to find the pastebin site
[06:48] <yharrow> so may take a few mins
[06:48] <Nerf_Jihad> xp ain't linux
[06:48] <dr_willis> !pastebin
[06:48] <fishbait> !paste
[06:48] <ekaj> yeah, but the network is getting internet through my desktop, who is 10.0.0.198
[06:48] <fishbait> !pastebin
[06:48] <dr_willis> yharrow:  do a 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit' and use that command to pastebin the log file.
[06:48] <Nerf_Jihad> try it anyway
[06:48] <ekaj> I am =p
[06:49] <yharrow> unable to locate package
[06:49] <ekaj> ffs keep using wrong keyboards
[06:49] <dr_willis> !info pastebinit
[06:49] <dr_willis> check spelling.
[06:49] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: http://synergy-foss.org/
[06:49] <fishbait> how do i check the current speed of my cpu?
[06:50] <Nerf_Jihad> fishbait: less /proc/cpuinfo
[06:50] <yharrow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046773/
[06:51] <ekaj> nerf, I prefer a mouse and KB for my real desktop, have a KVM for the network... going to use remote desktop connections once I get everything up and running
[06:51] <ekaj> Also, adding 10.0.0.1 didn't change anything
[06:51] <yharrow> xorg logs are found at /var/log/Xorg.<version>.log
[06:51] <fishbait> my concern is that it says 800mhz for both cores but i know this is a 3.1ghz cpu which makes me think that it like power phase or something
[06:52] <fishbait> 800 8 2 = 1600 or 1.6ghz
[06:52] <fishbait> 800 * 2 = 1600 or 1.6ghz
[06:52] <fishbait> so where did the remaining 1.5 go?
[06:53] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046773/
[06:53] <fishbait> more specifically how do i check cpu idling states
[06:53] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: reading it already, dude.
[06:53] <yharrow> ok
[06:53] <yharrow> i feel like an idiot for asking for help here
[06:54] <yharrow> imean
[06:54] <yharrow> everyone knows so much more than me
[06:54] <yharrow> I wish i was smarter
[06:54] <Nerf_Jihad> you, off the cross
[06:54] <ekaj> welcome to my world, I've been trying to fix my problem for an hour
[06:54] <yharrow> but these planks are so comfy
[06:54] <yharrow> and the nails hit all the right spots
[06:55] <dr_willis> log file mentions INTEL quite a few times..  no mention of  NVIDIA
[06:55] <Nerf_Jihad> so what's the xorg logs look like in your production machine?
[06:55] <yharrow> i dont know
[06:55] <fishbait> actuallly i'm still learning ubuntu nerf_jihad and ekaj fell lucky my problem took 3 days to fully resolve
[06:55] <dr_willis> so it seems to be defaulting toi the intel log filess here.
[06:55] <yharrow> but they were posted here  ahiwle back
[06:55] <yharrow> like a long while back
[06:55] <dr_willis> pastebin the output of 'lsmod' also for future referance
[06:55] <yharrow> oh wait im so dumb
[06:55] <ekaj> fish what was your problem
[06:56] <yharrow> i can mount my production hd
[06:56] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: lemme see if I can summarize
[06:56] <yharrow> and check
[06:56] <dr_willis> so  the drivers on the live seem to be working fine? not sluggish?  unity effects seem ok?
[06:56] <Nerf_Jihad> you've got an address assigned by DHCP, it can ping in-network, grab DNS, and is generally stable
[06:57] <yharrow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046774/ that is the production
[06:57] <yharrow> machine
[06:57] <fishbait> my nic an r8168 wouldn't work it loaded the r8169 drivers and after finding the right drivers and driver version i had to setup static address and write in the dns servers into the head file a real learning experience
[06:57] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: your problem is that the autoconfig says Intel, the bad machine says nvidia
[06:58] <yharrow> that makes sense
[06:58] <yharrow> so how do i get intel to work again
[06:58] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: answer dr_willis
[06:58] <ekaj> generally stable? what do you mean?
[06:58] <fishbait> O.O perhaps intel is onboard gpu and nvidia is gpu card?
[06:59] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: it's not crashing / sparking / arcing
[06:59] <ekaj> correct
[06:59] <yharrow> i never had issues with unity i dont think
[06:59] <ekaj> and that sounds like a pain fish
[06:59] <onats> hi all. is it possible to share a scanner that is connected via usb, to mac / windows devices?
[06:59] <yharrow> always in unity 2d
[06:59] <yharrow> it never went to 3d
[07:00] <dr_willis> i dont really see any differanxes in the live-cd logs Vs. the installed sysgtrrm logs..
[07:00] <ekaj> I'm going to bed in like 5 minutes.
[07:00] <onats> !scanner
[07:00] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: however you cannot browse or use network resources
[07:00] <fishbait> believe me it was i located the 0.31 drivers myself and they turned out bad someone here pointed me to switchmods drivers which use 0.28 version and automate the process
[07:00] <ekaj> I haven't tried to set up any network resources... I assume those would work
[07:01] <dr_willis> does unity-2d come on the live cd? ive never noticed'
[07:01] <ekaj> but then again, I also assumed the internet would work by now.
[07:01] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: and you've rebooted?
[07:01] <ekaj> yes
[07:02] <Nerf_Jihad> well, I'm pretty well stumped too
[07:02] <dr_willis> yharrow:  so exactly what is not wworking on the installed system:? No desktop? just slow?  explodes into flames?
[07:02] <Nerf_Jihad> problem -> windows box -> backbone -> internet
[07:02] <yharrow> sadly no flames, just 3d acccel on java is painfully slow
[07:02] <dr_willis> err.. JUST on java?
[07:02] <yharrow> im installing openjdk and java app and testing now
[07:03] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: what's glgears look like?
[07:03] <yharrow> dr_willis: i never tested anythign else
[07:03] <ekaj> Maybe if I get the network working... I can let you RDC my computer and fix it. =p
[07:03] <dr_willis> are you baseing this on minecraft fps?
[07:03] <yharrow> yes
[07:03] <Nerf_Jihad> >_<
[07:03] <yharrow> why?
[07:03] <ekaj> I'll try to figure it out...
[07:03] <dr_willis> minecraft is a very very picky game.. and may be the cause of your whole issues....
[07:04] <yharrow> alli know is on the livecd in the same exact situationt bere were no problems
[07:04] <DarkBlood> How to change the user selection screen resolution?
[07:04] <yharrow> then i messed with nvidia
[07:04] <yharrow> and there were problems
[07:04] <dr_willis> so you are now installing java and minecraft on the live cd as a test... good idea.
[07:04] <yharrow> yeh
[07:04] <yharrow> to confirm
[07:05] <ekaj> ...eth0 is wired connection 1.. .right?
[07:05] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: yes
[07:05] <ekaj> yeah, okay
[07:05] <DarkBlood> ekaj, Yes.
[07:05] <fishbait> ekaj during install did it ask you for any missing firmware?
[07:05] <dr_willis> its downrigth amazeing the amount of  'support' issues i see in here a week involoving minecraft..
[07:05] <ekaj> the OS? the OS is completely updated.
[07:06] <Nerf_Jihad> firmware could mean stuff blown into the eeproms in the card
[07:06] <Nerf_Jihad> rare, but not unheard of
[07:06] <ekaj> dunno what you mean =/
[07:06] <Nerf_Jihad> like flashing a router
[07:06] <Nerf_Jihad> or your bios
[07:07] <ekaj> I think those are fine, I think I am just missing something simple
[07:07] <ekaj> It worked before I assigned the IP address and crap
[07:07] <Nerf_Jihad> I put all my skill points into Geek Fiddle and Troubleshooting
[07:07] <Nerf_Jihad> OH
[07:07] <Nerf_Jihad> shit
[07:07] <FloodBot1> Nerf_Jihad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:07] <ekaj> ofl
[07:07] <Nerf_Jihad> fscking... did you dhclient eth0?
[07:07] <fishbait> no no no in my case it asked me for missing firmware files during install and then the nic didn't work
[07:08] <ekaj> Did I?
[07:08] <Nerf_Jihad> idk, did you?
[07:08] <fishbait> it was the r8168 story
[07:08] <yharrow> i get a solid 30fps which is usable
[07:08] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: before it was like 2fps
[07:08] <ekaj> no
[07:08] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: so you need the intel drivers, not the nvidia drivers
[07:08] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: dhclient eth0
[07:08] <yharrow> yeh so it would seem
[07:08] <yharrow> if only i could install them
[07:09] <yharrow> but thats what ive beent ryingi to do for several hours
[07:09] <yharrow> anyway
[07:09] <yharrow> im gonna reboot
[07:09] <Nerf_Jihad> what's your card?
[07:09] <yharrow> unless u wan anothe rlog
[07:09] <ekaj> no difference
[07:09] <ekaj> er
[07:09] <ekaj> how do I tell?ifconfig
[07:09] <ekaj> wrong computer
[07:09] <Nerf_Jihad> lol
[07:10] <Nerf_Jihad> ifconfig, mtr www.google.com
[07:10] <fishbait> how do i check cpu idling states
[07:10] <ekaj> It's an old card.. ifconfig doesn't say a name
[07:10] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: I meant yharrow
[07:10] <ekaj> ah
[07:11] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: what's your GPU?
[07:11] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: thisis my lshw http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046796/
[07:11] <yharrow> sudo lshw -c video
[07:11] <ekaj> I need to go to bed, any last minute ideas?
[07:12] <yharrow> ekaj: ideas for what?
[07:13] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: honestly, donny. if you can't keep up with the conversation, it's rude to even try
[07:13] <ekaj> to make my internet work
[07:13] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: what conversation?
[07:13] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: ever seen The Big Lebowski?
[07:13] <yharrow> nope
[07:13] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: it's a good movie, you should watch it sometime
[07:14] <yharrow> xD
[07:14] <yharrow> ok
[07:14] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: I'm fresh out of ideas, mang. sorry for not being more helpful
[07:14] <ekaj> thanks for being as helpful as you were! much appreciated =p
[07:14] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: uname -a
[07:14] <Nerf_Jihad> it should only be one line, paste it in the chat window
[07:15] <Rask> Hey guys... somewhat noobish question, hopefully the answer is a simple one.  du shows that my disk should only have about 5 gigs in use, but df is showing that 100% of the filesystem is in use, and it's causing problems.  How can I find out what's causing the issue and fix it?
[07:16] <yharrow> Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-23-generic-pae #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 22:19:09 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[07:16] <ekaj> I don't really want to post this on superuser... lol
[07:16] <yharrow> but my acutaly comptuer is differnt
[07:16] <yharrow> i updated the kernel
[07:16] <fishbait> this is 3.1 ghz processor how do i make this reflect it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046800
[07:16] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/45533 is this the driver you installed?
[07:17] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: i purged all drivers form my main box
[07:17] <yharrow> all nvidia
[07:17] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: right, but before you did that, was that the driver you'd installed?
[07:17] <yharrow> except the .run script
[07:17] <yharrow> yes
[07:17] <Nerf_Jihad> okay, making progress
[07:17] <sacarlson> Rask:  I'm not sure how your getting du to show your disk space
[07:17] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: wait im not sure i used x64
[07:17] <yharrow> nerf let me check
[07:18] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: install the x64 version next time
[07:18] <Nerf_Jihad> matching kernel params helps with stability and functionality
[07:18] <Rask> oh geesh
[07:18] <yharrow> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-295.59.run
[07:18] <Rask> nevermind
[07:18] <yharrow> i install that Nerf_Jihad
[07:19]  * Rask did a stupid thing
[07:19] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: yup, there's your problem
[07:19] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: pull the x64 version and install that
[07:19] <yharrow> well i should reboot into my main box then
[07:19] <yharrow> andleave live cd
[07:19] <fishbait> this is 3.1 ghz processor http://paste.ubuntu.com/1046800 but the cpumhz only add up to 1.6ghz is something wrong?
[07:19] <yharrow> no?
[07:19] <Nerf_Jihad> could be helpful toward that end
[07:19] <yharrow> ok brb
[07:19] <alexey> u
[07:19] <dr_willis> yharrow:  iis there anything imporntant on that box right now?
[07:20] <yharrow> dr_willis: i dont want to reinstall
[07:20] <dr_willis> may be safer/easier  in the long run...'
[07:20] <yharrow> dr_willis: i spent a long time installing things
[07:20] <alexey> quit
[07:20] <alexey> exit
[07:20] <alexey> q
[07:20] <dr_willis> so make a list and reinstall them
[07:20] <ekaj> are you trying to quit IRC?
[07:20] <dr_willis> ;)
[07:21] <Nerf_Jihad> fishbait: cpu mhz don't work that way, it's probably got hyperthreading which = 2 logical cores per physical core
[07:21] <dr_willis> !clone
[07:21] <yharrow> dr_willis: how hard can it be to install an intel driver and remove traces of a nvidia one?
[07:21] <fishbait> ah ty
[07:21] <dr_willis> yharrow:  given that you used the .run installer... it may be a task...
[07:21] <fishbait> now it adds up
[07:21] <dr_willis> i dont even know if the r.urn has an unisntaller
[07:21] <yharrow> dr_willis: i dont mind spending time to do that if i have a list of stuff to remove.
[07:21] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: the intel driver is the fallback driver. you need to install the x64 to fix the problem
[07:22] <Nerf_Jihad> since you're running a rather spiffy GPU
[07:22] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  do i install it over the old x32?
[07:23] <etnt`> how do I raise/lower windows in ubuntu-12.04+gnome-classic?
[07:23] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: try it, it's not likely to break it any worse if it fails
[07:23] <yharrow> ok
[07:23] <etnt`> I've been googling, playing around with various config tools, I'm soon going mad...
[07:23] <yharrow> restarting
[07:23] <Nerf_Jihad> etnt`: you're on the air, what's your question?
[07:23] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: I want to raise/lower windows with a keyboard shortcut
[07:24] <etnt`> before 12.04 this was easy to configure, but now....grr...
[07:24] <Nerf_Jihad> alt-f8 / alt-f9
[07:25] <Nerf_Jihad> er, f9 / f10
[07:25] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: nope, doesn't work
[07:25] <Nerf_Jihad> do you have compiz installed?
[07:26] <etnt`> note that I'm using gnome-classic
[07:26] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: i purged nvidia-settings and nvidia-current
[07:27] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: did you install the x64 driver?
[07:27] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: what was the x64 link again?
[07:27] <Nerf_Jihad> http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/45533
[07:27] <ekaj> nerf do you know how to edit /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:27] <Nerf_Jihad> ekaj: sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[07:28] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: yes, I seem to have compiz installed
[07:28] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: im gonna stop lightdm so brb
[07:28] <yharrow> in 5 minutes anyway
[07:28] <yharrow> its downloading
[07:28] <ekaj> didnt work[ but thats
[07:28] <ekaj> *thanks
[07:29] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: I started out with gnome-shell but couldn't turn off autoraise of windows, so I went back to gnome-classic, but then I can't configure these keyboard shortcuts....
[07:29] <Comics-Idees> server nemesis.irc.gr]
[07:29] <ekaj> Ugh, good night, thanks for all your help!
[07:29] <Nerf_Jihad> night
[07:29] <yharrow> night
[07:29] <Nerf_Jihad> etnt`: do you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed?
[07:29] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  brb stopping X and installing
[07:29] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: nope
[07:30] <Nerf_Jihad> installing that should provide a lot more customization
[07:30] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: thx, installing...
[07:31] <adrenaline_junky> hi
[07:31] <Nerf_Jihad> adrenaline_junky: howdy. how can we help thee?
[07:32] <aykoola> Hi guys! Question! The only way i can get 12.04 is sudo do-distro-upgrade. Is that going to leave any leftovers on my computer that would slow it down etc.? thanks!
[07:32] <crizis> it likely won't slow down or anything
[07:33] <Nerf_Jihad> aykoola: if you're lucky, the planets are in proper alignment, and you don't jinx it, it probably will perform as good or better than before
[07:33] <crizis> AlanBell: if you want an easy "reinstall", you can just create new user account after ugrade, then you won't have any leftovers in your profile
[07:33] <crizis> *aykoola
[07:33] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: would that help turning off autoraise in the gnome-shell too ?
[07:33] <aykoola> so it's no problem to upgrade using that command? :)
[07:33] <Nerf_Jihad> autoraise?
[07:33] <crizis> aykoola: on the desktop it's better to use graphical update-manager
[07:33] <crizis> cli version should work though..
[07:33] <Nerf_Jihad> aykoola: not usually, no. it's the default for good reason
[07:34] <aykoola> Thank you! Would do it via update manager, but i don't get the notice and all my settings are correct :(
[07:34] <aykoola> anyways, thank you, and see you after the upgrade!!!
[07:35] <Nerf_Jihad> oh hey
[07:35] <Nerf_Jihad> I have a question
[07:36] <Nerf_Jihad> my box throws a fit every boot because the hard drives aren't configured properly to automount
[07:36] <Nerf_Jihad> is there a silver bullet to autoconfig that, or do I have to go text-editing?
[07:37] <littleTurtle> hey everyone! I'm on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS livecd (mounted from USB through unetbootin). The reason why I'm here is because I cannot install to the disk: it already has four partitions. One of them is my primary, and two (count them) are filled with HP Recovery tools. Another one is labeled "SYSTEM" and I don't know exactly what it does, but it says "Boot" and "System Volume Information", as well as "bootmgr".
[07:38] <littleTurtle> I was wondering if said SYSTEM partition sounds like a Ubuntu partition relic from an earlier installation.
[07:38] <Nerf_Jihad> littleTurtle: the SYSTEM one is the windows 7 boot manager, it's only 100mb long and is needed for windows to not complain
[07:38] <Gyro54> Does USB 3.0 work on 11.10?
[07:39] <Nerf_Jihad> Gyro54: it should
[07:39] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: yes, I if I move focus to a partly hidden window, it raises it self on-top of all other windows
[07:39] <littleTurtle> thanks, Nerf_Jihad. so it's a useful one. then I really can't dual-boot at all on this machine without wiping the HP_TOOLS partition, right?
[07:39] <Nerf_Jihad> etnt, so you want it to remain behind the other windows?
[07:40] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: yes
[07:40] <etnt`> Nerf_Jihad: as I always have had it...
[07:40] <Nerf_Jihad> littleTurtle: HP_TOOLS is the OEM rescue partition that contains the necessary pieces to restore a factory image should you pooch the OS
[07:41] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  ok took a few minutes to figure how to route an error msg to a log via console
[07:41] <Nerf_Jihad> etnt`: having never desired that functionality, I'm unsure of how to properly progress in helping you attain it. best of luck
[07:41] <yharrow> but here is the error i got
[07:41] <yharrow> ERROR: this .run file is intended for the
[07:41] <yharrow> Linux-x86_64 platform, but you appear to be
[07:41] <yharrow> running on Linux-x86.  Aborting installation.
[07:41] <Gyro54> The 2.0 ports all work OK but if I plug into the 3.0 port it doesnt recognise the HD
[07:41] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: what's uname -a say on that box?
[07:41] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: so i just reinstalled x86_32
[07:42] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: Linux NPCU 3.2.0-25-generic-pae #40-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 23 22:11:24 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[07:42] <triad> Gyro54: HD , HDMI ?
[07:42] <Gyro54> Triad: external HD usb 3.0
[07:42] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: that's the box that has the problem, not the one with the fallback driver working?
[07:43] <yharrow> the  box with intel working is the livecd
[07:43] <yharrow> its the same box
[07:43] <k_pnc> logout
[07:43] <triad> Gyro54: what Ubuntu are you using ?
[07:43] <Gyro54> triad: It works in the 2.0 ports but not in the 3.0?
[07:43] <yharrow> this is the installed version
[07:43] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  glxinfo  now  = Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[07:43] <yharrow> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[07:44] <littleTurtle> Hmm.. Will converting C: into a logical partition do any harm to my configuration?
[07:44] <Nerf_Jihad> littleTurtle: yes, massive damage
[07:44] <triad> Gyro54: Look - http://askubuntu.com/questions/12139/does-ubuntu-support-usb-3-0 - some people talk there about your problem (i think) check it out - there are also some solutions...
[07:44] <yharrow> :3 :) c:
[07:44] <Gyro54> triad: 11.10
[07:45] <Gyro54> triad: thanks
[07:45] <littleTurtle> ... guess I'm installing Ubuntu on my portable hdd then, thanks! I'm  never buying one of these HP laptops again!
[07:45] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  thanks for all the hope so far
[07:46] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: you don't have two computers, do you?
[07:46] <yharrow> not usable
[07:46] <Gyro54> littleTurtle: You can do it but my brain is too old to remember how I did it. I have a HP dual booing fine
[07:47] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: my eepc screwn is smashed but if i get hdm to vga then i t may work
[07:47] <yharrow> hdmi
[07:47] <yharrow> since i got a tv and a hdmi/hdmi
[07:47] <Nerf_Jihad> littleTurtle: you can safely nuke the HP_TOOLS partition, you just lose the safety net in case you pooch it completely
[07:48] <yharrow> pooch meaning completely obliterate and destroy
[07:48] <littleTurtle> Hmm.. I think I'll settle for the external hdd option, thanks for the opinions. I don't want to cause any excessive damage on this rig. Thanks for the help!
[07:48] <Nerf_Jihad> pooch as in 'screw the pooch'
[07:48] <littleTurtle> haha xD
[07:48] <yharrow> u probably shouldnt
[07:48] <yharrow> u dont know where that pooch has been
[07:49] <yharrow> but man i have not herad that expression in a looong time
[07:50] <Nerf_Jihad> alright... so I've run out of whiskey and would like to progress in Skyward Sword
[07:51] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: xD
[07:51] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  u da man
[07:51] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: your flattery gets you nowhere. I'm bailing for the night.
[07:51] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  i hope we meet again
[07:51] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  dude
[07:51] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: >>
[07:51] <yharrow> i wasnt trying to flatter u
[07:52] <yharrow> *sigh*
[07:52] <Nerf_Jihad> best of luck with your problem. the intel driver is the bare bones, built in driver for basic functionality. your GeForce 520MX is meant for the heavy lifting
[07:53] <Nerf_Jihad> GeForce = NVIDIA = you need the proper driver for your kernel
[07:53] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: thanks man. ill see if someone can help me get intel driver to work at the very least. NVIDIA seems like too much hassle at this point.
[07:53] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: i appreciate everything
[07:53] <Nerf_Jihad> uname -a tells you what kind of kernel you're running towards the end (i686)
[07:53] <yharrow> cool
[07:53] <Nerf_Jihad> but the error you gave me says that your installed OS is actually x86
[07:54] <yharrow> i gues so
[07:54] <Nerf_Jihad> which may or may not hamper your computer's usability
[07:54] <yharrow> ok
[07:54] <yharrow> so i should look for x64?
[07:54] <Nerf_Jihad> if you have an external drive, you can move your /home/ folder to it and preserve all your settings and files
[07:54] <Nerf_Jihad> then reinstall and move it back to restore your user data
[07:55] <yharrow> how do i back up instlled package list
[07:55] <Guest91844> koustubh
[07:55] <Nerf_Jihad> there's a command for that, one moment
[07:55] <Guest91844> 1542
[07:55] <yharrow> ok
[07:55] <Guest91844> 91844
[07:55] <jolareen> I'm trying to make "Mutt" send me email when I get sms.. this is working, but I want to be able to read what it says in the sms.. this does not work but i've tried to make script but &1 does not work echo | mutt you@example.com -i "/var/spool/gammu/inbox/$1" -a "/var/spool/gammu/inbox/$1" -s "SMS Received"
[07:55] <abhinavmehta> I want ScreenFlow for ubuntu…something which can record my Desktop+Audio nicely…preferably close to like ScreenFlow
[07:55] <Nerf_Jihad> dpkg --get-selections >> installed.txt
[07:55] <abhinavmehta> suggestiosn..?
[07:56] <yharrow> thanks nerf
[07:56] <Nerf_Jihad> dammit
[07:56] <Nerf_Jihad> switching to vodka
[07:56] <yharrow> xD
[07:57] <abhinavmehta> anyone ScreenFlow for ubuntu..?
[07:57] <Nerf_Jihad> abhinavmehta: you had to pick a hard to type name, didn't you?
[07:57] <yharrow> wb dr_willis
[07:57] <dr_willis> moo  ;)
[07:57] <yharrow> xD
[07:57] <abhinavmehta> Nerf_Jihad: nope..
[07:58] <Nerf_Jihad> abhinavmehta: http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php
[07:58] <dr_willis> at work so i may have to leave at any time.
[07:58] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: it sounds like an indian name
[07:58] <yharrow> dr_willis: okiedokes
[07:58] <abhinavmehta> Nerf_Jihad: interesting..thnx
[07:58] <tdhz77> Can the /media directory be shared over samba?
[07:58] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: I'm sure it is. I'm just not used to typing indian names with a BAC > 0.2
[07:59] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  yes.
[07:59] <yharrow> lolol xD
[07:59] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: u ok man?
[07:59] <tdhz77> dr_willis thanks, but I can get access to /srv/samba/share as in the doc's online, but not /media. Any suggestions?
[07:59] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: more and more the more I pour
[08:00] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: heh xD
[08:00] <dr_willis> tdhz77: ive added /media as a share in the smb.conf befor.
[08:00] <jolareen> I'm trying to make "Mutt" send me email when I get sms.. this is working, but I want to be able to read what it says in the sms.. this does not work but i've tried to make script but &1 does not work echo | mutt you@example.com -i "/var/spool/gammu/inbox/$1" -a "/var/spool/gammu/inbox/$1" -s "SMS Received"
[08:01] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: im too scared of alchohol to drink much but when i do its awsum
[08:01] <tdhz77> dr_willis I have too, but I cannot access it through Windows.
[08:01] <Nerf_Jihad> jolareen: the last part there is the important bit. you should be able to use regexps to grab the actual content from the incoming SMS
[08:01] <yharrow> sooo anybody know how to install an intel driver?
[08:02] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  cant access /media. or cant access the dirs under /media?
[08:02] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: we've been over this, the intel driver isn't what you want
[08:02] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: yes but i rather have something than nothing. right now i cant even run minecraft at more htna like 3fps
[08:03] <yharrow> and in the live cd i get 30
[08:03] <tdhz77> dr_willis At one point I had access to /media, but no access to the external hd attached @ /media/500
[08:03] <Nerf_Jihad> the intel driver is already installed, though. it's what the computer uses when it can't use anything else
[08:03] <Nerf_Jihad> purge the nvidia settings again and try that
[08:03] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: then why does it say that GLX is missing
[08:03] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: and minecraf crashes completely
[08:04] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  the external will need proper permissions and ownership to be avvessable
[08:04] <Nerf_Jihad> GLX is OpenGL, which is the high-end graphics libraries that're needed to make it look pretty
[08:04] <yharrow> try what? to install intel agian?
[08:04] <tdhz77> dr_willis I've chmod 777 and its NTFS, what else do I need to do?
[08:04] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: in my box i cant even start minecraft i think immissing a library
[08:04] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  you do not chmid ntfs
[08:05] <tdhz77> dr_willis ok, thanks for that tip.
[08:05] <dr_willis> mount it with the right options
[08:05] <tdhz77> dr_willis here is my fstab
[08:05] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: intel is already installed. sudo apt-get install freeglut3-dev
[08:06] <tdhz77> media/500  ntfs   defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0  0
[08:07] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: ok installd freeglut3-dev
[08:07] <Nerf_Jihad> try running minecraft
[08:07] <tdhz77> dr willis I named the devices using UUID throughblkid
[08:08] <Choom> greetings
[08:08] <Choom> what's the current gcc version in ubuntu server?
[08:08] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  why not use ntgs-3g. and i think you want a diff.  dmask and fmask
[08:08] <Choom> clang is also acceptable (and preferable)
[08:08] <tdhz77> dr_willis, I forgot to mention I'm running server 12.04
[08:09] <dr_willis> shouldent matter.
[08:09] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Could not init GLX
[08:09] <tdhz77> dr_willis ok, do you know what the masks might need to be?
[08:09] <dr_willis> ntfs-3g homepage has loads of examples
[08:09] <dr_willis> 002 for masks i think
[08:10] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  when i install libgl1-mesa-swrast it works but its dead slow
[08:10] <sage> Hello guys, I have this sound problem, whatever audio/video i play through any player.. there is constant disturbance (like a mosquito sound.) in the output.. this happened after i installed some updates via update manager (before it was completely perfect)
[08:10] <sage> Hello guys, I have this sound problem, whatever audio/video i play through any player.. there is constant disturbance (like a mosquito sound.) in the output.. this happened after i installed some updates via update manager (before it was completely perfect)
[08:11] <tdhz77> dr_willis, would a ext4 filesystem solve the problem?
[08:12] <dr_willis> tdhz77: then you can use normal permissions . so yes
[08:12] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[08:13] <sage> anyone peeps ? i
[08:13] <tdhz77> dr_willis As much as I would love to change now to ext4, I don't have the physical capacity to transfer data and format without data loss. I'm getting an error on boot now fsick Warning line 13 on fstab
[08:13] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: did i tell you that I have an optimus card btw?
[08:14] <sage> Hello guys, I have this sound problem, whatever audio/video i play through any player.. there is constant disturbance (like a mosquito sound.) in the output.. this happened after i installed some updates via update manager (before it was completely perfect)
[08:14] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: don't see how that makes a difference, considering your hardware reports that it's got a GeForce 520MX
[08:15] <StarryNight> i been using the 520 never had a problem
[08:15] <Nerf_Jihad> sage: get your config in a paste, share with us the link
[08:16] <Nerf_Jihad> yharrow: are you running on apple hardware?
[08:16] <sage> whats command to do that Nerf_Jihad
[08:17] <rymate1234> sage: sounds like a bug to me
[08:18] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  no im not
[08:18] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad:  its a samsung computer
[08:18] <sage> it was all well before
[08:18] <yharrow> Nerf_Jihad: ive installed nvidia current serveral times now
[08:20] <Nerf_Jihad> alright, I give up
[08:20] <Nerf_Jihad> me and my liquor are going elsewhere for the night
[08:22] <kanliot> i think i need to increase the virtual desktop size in order to get multiple monitors to work side by side.  are there instructions on how to do this in ubuntu?
[08:22] <dr_willis> kanliot:  never seen that needing tobe done. whats yiur video card/chips
[08:22] <kanliot> amd 760
[08:22] <kanliot> lubuntu
[08:23] <dr_willis> The flgrx drivers may have some settings to enable their xinerama stuff.
[08:23] <dr_willis> in the fglrx config tool. but i forget its name
[08:24] <kanliot> i'm using open source drivers, they work great
[08:24] <oCean> !afk > Nerf_Sleep
[08:24] <dr_willis> that may be why you xant use multi-monitors......
[08:24] <kanliot> i found an article on stack exhange on how to config xorg.conf
[08:24] <kanliot> gonna try that, please wait here ;)
[08:25] <dr_willis> but i was about to go get a soda......'  ;)
[08:25] <kanliot> lolo
[08:25]  * dr_willis takes his phone with him to go get a soda
[08:25] <maciejjo> Hi, can i clear DNS cache in ubuntu?
[08:27] <maciejjo> when i ping from my linksys router some address, it always returns correct ip
[08:27] <tdhz77> dr_willis I'm going to reinstall ubuntu server should i install samba after install or use the option to install samba from disc?
[08:27] <maciejjo> but from ubuntu machine connected to it, dig returns old NS
[08:28] <maciejjo> but somwhere online i read that ubuntu doesn't cache dns records
[08:29] <hateball> maciejjo: is this on 12.04 ?
[08:30] <hateball> maciejjo: since in 12.04, dnsmasq has been added as a default
[08:30] <maciejjo> yes
[08:30] <maciejjo> its 12.04
[08:32] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  i dont see how either way would matter in  relation to your problem
[08:32] <dr_willis> !info dnsmasq
[08:32] <denova> Hello,everybody!this is my first time to use Utunbu and Xchat.
[08:32] <rymate1234> Cool
[08:32] <crizis> Utumbu :D
[08:33] <tdhz77> dr_willis I've been trying to fix this for about 8 hours now. Hopefully I can start from scratch and things will work.
[08:33] <rymate1234> Liking it?
[08:33] <rymate1234> :)
[08:33] <Guest45447> /nick nick
[08:33] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  get what going? if you mount the ntfs witht he right options. then they would be  accessable from the samba shares
[08:34] <Guest45447> nick nick
[08:34] <rymate1234> Lol guest
[08:34] <tdhz77> dr_willis I changed my fstab to reflect what was on the ubuntu documentation. I then was getting a username and password prompt. I enter the user/pass, but windows said I didn't have permission.
[08:34] <fidel> Guest76433: /nick NEWNICKNAME
[08:34] <hateball> maciejjo: well it shouldnt normally be a problem, since dnsmasq uses TTL like it should, but if you've just changed the IP I guess it can be annoying
[08:34] <dr_willis>  /nick Bill_Gates_
[08:35] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  you did give the user on linux a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a THEUSERNAME' ?
[08:35] <one> anyone know best way to import fonts to LibreOffice Writer?
[08:35] <crizis> one: you can just click on any .ttf font from the file manager
[08:36] <crizis> one: this opens it in font viewer, where you can click install
[08:36] <crizis> one: restart libre and it's available there
[08:36] <nlici> Hi All !i have brother printer dcp-165 c.I found the drivers through synptic .When i send the document to pinter it shows receiving data but it is not printing what can be the problem ?before i had this problem as well when the printer was connected with usb cable it was doing the same problem with the printers but when  connected it by the wireless it worked but now i have to change it to brother again please help me
[08:36] <tdhz77> dr_willis no :(
[08:36] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  then i think only guest shares would work for the,
[08:36] <dr_willis> the user
[08:37] <maciejjo> hm, restarting dnsmasq doesnt seem to help, one in 5 times using dig i get the correct record
[08:37] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  i also normally edi thte smb.conf and enable the homes share.
[08:37] <tdhz77> dr_willis I think that would explain why I could access /srv/samba/share, but not /media?
[08:38] <hateball> maciejjo: you could try commenting out dnsmasq completely as well... to see if that solves your problem
[08:38] <Wavelight_> hello
[08:38] <nlici> how can i open rpm file?
[08:38] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  you said you could access /media  but not  /media/externaldrive
[08:39] <dr_willis> nlici:  why do you need to/
[08:39] <nlici> Hi All !i have brother printer dcp-165 c.I found the drivers through synptic .When i send the document to pinter it shows receiving data but it is not printing what can be the problem ?before i had this problem as well when the printer was connected with usb cable it was doing the same problem with the printers but when  connected it by the wireless it worked but now i have to change it to brother again please help me
[08:39] <nlici> andhow can i open rpm file?
[08:39] <hateball> !alien | nlici
[08:39] <dr_willis> you normally dont use rpms on ubuntu
[08:39] <DJones> !rpm | nlici
[08:40] <tdhz77> dr_willis at one point I had access to /media, but after editing and trying to fix the problem. I lost accessability to /media too.
[08:40] <railsraider> i wanna change a line in a file with sed, first line i grab via grep, line to replace i awk  a text file making it one line how can i do hat
[08:40] <nlici> i see but i got it from brother.co.il
[08:40] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  sometimes it just pays to break dowen and read the samba book ;) in the samba-doc package theres like 3 books that get instlled to /usr/share/docs i think
[08:40] <nlici> it is a secure site
[08:41] <dr_willis> nlici:  see if they have a .deb and its possible the driver/thing is allreeady in the repos.
[08:41] <tdhz77> dr_willis so you are right. I had access to /media and at one point I had access to my shares. "/media/500/files" I installed webadmin and have been doomed ever since.
[08:41]  * dr_willis is not sure what a secure site has to do with it...
[08:41] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  webmin is.. well... bad.
[08:42] <nlici> no i mean it was written that it can be quit dangerous
[08:42] <tdhz77> dr_willis Ya, I've concluded the same. :)
[08:42] <nlici> thats why i tought mybe un known source
[08:42] <dr_willis> nlici:  yes.. using RPMS on a DEB based system - is not a good idea
[08:42] <rymate1234> Webmin ftw
[08:42] <nlici> ok i will check again
[08:42] <nlici> but what makes the problem so that i can not able to print
[08:42] <nlici> ?
[08:42] <dr_willis> like putting gasoline in a diesle engine,. :)
[08:43] <dr_willis> nlici:  no idea on the pinter.. we been distracted by your other questions.. ;P
[08:43] <dr_willis> nlici:  this printer attatcched via usb you said? or networked?
[08:43] <nlici> usb
[08:44] <dr_willis> i would try configreuing it via the cups web interface and checking the logs.
[08:44] <tdhz77> dr_willis I've reinstalled ubuserv. Do you think if I ignored fstab and just manually mounted I could see if it was the fstab was the root of the problem?
[08:44] <dr_willis>  http://localhost:631   for cups printer config interface
[08:44] <ibra> hi
[08:45] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  if you mount the drive with the right options.  using fstab or not wouldent matter
[08:45] <dr_willis>  or was 631for swat? I get confused in my old age
[08:46] <dr_willis> nlici:  for my brother printer - cups showed several drivers i could use. i went down the list and tried them all untill i found one that worked for me. My printer is networked however.
[08:46] <Wavelight_> I wanna install a Ubuntu server on a tape drive or on a driver after configuration to secure FIZICAL protection to write, is this possbile ?
[08:47] <dr_willis> so its a bit more complex
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[08:50] <lotuspsychje> im looking for an rss reader that can show new feeds to popup automaticly
[08:51] <dr_willis> i wonder if conky can do that.. it can do most everything else.
[08:51] <dr_willis> they wouldent popup however.
[08:51] <dr_willis> be neat to have a tickertape of rss feeds at the bottom of the screen
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> i tryed many, would be very interesting indeed like in notification area or something
[08:52] <sage> Hello guys, I have this sound problem, whatever audio/video i play through any player.. there is constant disturbance (like a mosquito sound.) in the output.. this happened after i installed some updates via update manager (before it was completely perfect)
[08:52]  * dr_willis rembers his G15 keybords lcd screen allready does that......
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> lol you got a keyboard showing rss?
[08:53] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  yep. G15 - has a little LCD screen - can show differnt info via applets
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> sage:player online?
[08:53] <GerardM-> how do I install a new keyboard method .. for the Batak script ??
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis:cool!
[08:54] <vampirnata> anyone know if conky can behave similar to top in console?
[08:54] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  they did have a fancy keybord that had a lcd that could actually play videos and stuff  on its lcd. but thats not been avail for ages.
[08:54] <vampirnata> at the moment conky spits out a new report every second instead of refreshing
[08:54] <dr_willis> so conky has a rss feed feature?
[08:55] <GerardM-> I have a .keylayout file
[08:55] <monokrome> Hello. I am trying to use a different window manager, but this particular window manager is in ~/bin/dwm. Is it possible to use the home directory (~) in a .desktop file?
[08:55] <sage> lotuspsychje,  no, i am using VLC
[08:55] <vampirnata> dr_willis: what do you mean?
[08:55] <dr_willis> monokrome:   that dir should be in the edefault path if it exists.
[08:56] <monokrome> dr_willis: It's my home directory.
[08:56] <vampirnata> dr_willis: if you run top in a console it refreshes stats, conky doesn't
[08:56] <dr_willis> conky should refresh in real time  also.
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> sage:maybe an update changed something on audio driver?
[08:56] <dr_willis> setable via its configs.
[08:56] <vampirnata> it is refreshing but on a new bunch of lines
[08:57] <sage> yes lotuspsychje what should i do
[08:57] <dr_willis> new bunch of lines?  Err.  you are using conky as a cli app and watching its clli output?
[08:57] <vampirnata> yes
[08:57] <sage> reconfigure the whole audio thingy ?
[08:57] <dr_willis> i always watch it on the desktop :)
[08:57] <vampirnata> and i know it's meant as a X app :)
[08:57] <dr_willis> htop is nicer then top also in most ways
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> sage:im not sure, try to look into /var/logs if you find any error for audio
[08:57] <vampirnata> but i'm running headless
[08:57] <Wavelight_> can anyone tell me if I can install Ubuntu Server and than PHISICALLY protect the hard disck against any other erite ?
[08:57] <Wavelight_> write?
[08:58] <Wavelight_> the ssd have that option, to turn off writing by hardware means?
[08:58] <dr_willis> Wavelight_:  the use of a read only / has been ongoing 'goal' by many distro makers and other devs. Im not sure its totally possible at this time
[08:58] <vampirnata> dr_willis: htop works better. thanks :)
[08:58] <dr_willis> i think its part of the  reason the move to using /run/ was done in  12/04
[08:58] <dr_willis> 12.04
[08:59] <dr_willis> htop is nice
[08:59] <Wavelight_> I can install Ubuntu Server on a regular hdd and than open the hdd and modify it-s hardware to make sure it can only write
[08:59] <tdhz77> dr_willis I hope these people get paid for writing this type of in depth documentation.
[08:59] <Wavelight_> I don-t think it-s such a big thing
[08:59] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  th samba doc package you mean docs?
[09:00] <dr_willis> Wavelight_:  aparently it is..
[09:00] <dr_willis> you can set up differnt partitions and have parts of / read only.
[09:00] <tdhz77> dr_willis indeed.
[09:00] <Wavelight_> to get PHISICAL protection against any data change
[09:00] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  i think 3 of the books were comercial books at one time.
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> sage:try to pastebin the error here in channel
[09:00] <sage> ok lotuspsychje
[09:01] <Wavelight_> I understand, but that is just a virtual protection against writing a file
[09:01] <sage> lotuspsychje, there are plenty of logs in here.. which one should i put on pastebin
[09:02] <aykoola> hi! me again! it works perfectly!!!!! upgrade worked! but i have a question! i enabled the hide launcher in unity and set the upper left corner to be a sensitive spot, but it laggs very much. any way that can be fixed? TY!
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> sage:try to find anything relevant of audio errors
[09:03] <Wavelight_> if someone hacks into the system it would be very easy to take the write protection off
[09:03] <Arash> hi :)
[09:03] <tdhz77> dr_willis Thank you! All is good in the world.
[09:03] <dr_willis> Wavelight_: 'very easy' is  bit paranoid.
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_:encrypt the whole drive
[09:03] <Arash> !user
[09:04] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  i see people asking how to share ntfs every so often.. i never can rember the right options
[09:04] <Arash> !chat ubottu
[09:04] <tdhz77> UUID=X mount point ntfs defaults 0 0 :) Now you know.
[09:04] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  you could post a question on askubuntu.com and answer ityourself :) so its easier to find thee exact options tht worked
[09:04] <dr_willis> err.. ntfs is  read only by default..
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> !info pysdm
[09:05] <Wavelight_> hmmm, maybe I am old fashin type but I think there is nothing wrong in being 100% sure that NOWBODY could ever reach into the router to make modifications
[09:05] <dr_willis> Wavelight_:  'router' ? or a pc?
[09:05] <tdhz77> dr_willis Will do.
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_:i think paranoid is good thing these days
[09:06]  * dr_willis think its getting away from ubuntu support related.. ;)
[09:06] <Wavelight_> router
[09:07] <dr_willis> ollo you msg everyone that uses the word 'away'  ?
[09:07] <Wavelight_> you don-t have any friend who is using this kind of protection?
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_you could install security stuff for ubuntu for intruders not access your hd
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_:iptables,snort,encryption
[09:07] <rubik> Hello, anyone using ubuntu on a thinkpad x1 ? I'm having a problem with the battery. Suppose to be rated around 4 hours of usage. I am getting less than an hour and the battery indicator is jumping all over the place
[09:07] <Wavelight_> I understand, but are they 100% safe?
[09:07] <dr_willis> Wavelight_:   routeeres would still keep  some stuff writeable in ram i imagine. as a ram disk. but routers are special  cases..
[09:08] <dr_willis> Nothing is  100% safe
[09:08] <railsraider> can anyone please help with sed? i need to replace a variable content with another variable content sed -e  's/"$CURRENT_SERVERS_IN_NAGIOS"/"$NEW_SERVERS"/' hostgroups.cfg
[09:08] <tdhz77> dr_willis What's sad about 8 hours ago, I had everything working. I was trying to be lazy by installing webadmin and got burned.
[09:08] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  youmean 'webmin' ?
[09:08] <tdhz77> dr_willis yes, it's getting late.
[09:09] <dr_willis> !webmin
[09:09] <Wavelight_> I understand that you can write something in the ram, but my purpose is to ensure that after a reboot the router will be 100% spyware clean
[09:09] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  check out 'ebox' sometime if you wnt a web config tool
[09:09] <profiler1982> gnome shell or unity 5.0?????
[09:09] <Wavelight_> is there some king of software like deep freez for the Ubuntu Server?
[09:09] <railsraider> i got it
[09:10] <dontknow> Wavelight_, i don't think so
[09:10] <dr_willis> if you lock down things so hard. that you cant update the system for security issues... is it  more or less secure?
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_:when you are targeted, nothing can help you
[09:10] <tdhz77> dr_willis I'm just trying to learn about servers/networking. ebox will be next.
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_:but you can make it very hard for intruders though
[09:11] <tdhz77> dr_willis thanks again for pointing me in the right direction. Cheers!
[09:11] <Wavelight_> thank you so much, I apreciate your answers
[09:11] <dr_willis> tdhz77:  take care.
[09:12] <Wavelight_> from your point of view a dedicated router ( in plastic ) is safer than a linux distribution ?
[09:12] <dr_willis> most of  them are specialized linux disrtubitions
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features
[09:13] <Wavelight_> you mean like a single flopy linux distribution ?
[09:14] <T3X> How do i check if a software dependencies all installed and ready to use?
[09:14] <dr_willis> i recall seeing some routers having a few gb of flash befor,
[09:14] <dr_willis> there  are linux-router-project disrtos out there.  some are flashable to real routers
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> Wavelight_:https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/security.html
[09:15] <Arash> how to kill a process ?
[09:15] <dr_willis> Arash:  kill, xkill, killall   depends on your needs
[09:16] <Arash> for example
[09:16] <Arash> killing pidgin
[09:16] <Arash> how can I do that ?
[09:16] <dr_willis> killall pidgin
[09:16] <dr_willis> or run xkill and click itts window
[09:16] <Arash> hmm
[09:16] <Arash> what does kill do ?
[09:16] <dr_willis> see 'man kill'
[09:16] <Arash> !kill
[09:16] <dr_willis> kills a process by its pid.
[09:17] <Arash> how can I get PIDs ?
[09:17] <dr_willis> ps command...
[09:17] <dr_willis> see 'man ps' ;)
[09:17] <dr_willis> ps ax | grep appname    normally is what i use
[09:18] <Arash> !man ps
[09:18] <dr_willis> man is a bash command.. not  a bot triggrr
[09:18] <Arash> ok ty ;)
[09:19] <dontknow> look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MShbP3OpASA#t=2997s
[09:20] <DJones> dontknow: Is there any reason you've posted that in the channel?
[09:21] <dontknow> DJones, it is funny
[09:21] <Wheemp> Anyone alive that got experiance in installing from a USB to a computer without a CD/DVD-Rom?.. getting error on drivers for CD so it exits the installation
[09:21] <DJones> dontknow: Its not Ubuntu support related though, please stay on topic
[09:21] <dr_willis> Wheemp:  what ubuntu did you put on the usb, and how did you put it on there
[09:22] <Wheemp> dr_willis: ubuntu server edition, with alot of different iso to usb programs
[09:23] <dr_willis> the usb basically emulates a cd. so the installer sees it as  cd. I recall there being issues with the server iso installing from USB.
[09:23] <dr_willis> desktop iso  did not have tghe same issue.
[09:23] <dr_willis> but i thought that got fixed in 12.04
[09:23] <Wheemp> dr_willis: Ah, do you know what the differance between server/desktop edition is? i guess you can skip the gnome/kde etc in desktop installation to?
[09:24] <dr_willis> i just use desktop
[09:24] <Wheemp> I can get it to run atleast, just asks for the CD drivers and when i say i don't have any it just errors. IE it doesn't start to download files from network, just for them over CD
[09:24] <fidel> Wheemp: you cant unselect i.e. kde/gnome in the normal install process
[09:24] <fidel> you can for sure remove them afterwards
[09:24] <Wheemp> fidel: Ok, just wipe em after installation then..
[09:24] <fidel> yep
[09:25] <fidel> while server install itself ends up with more pre-selecting and then installing
[09:25] <Wheemp> Normaly use Debian server installations but i thought i'd try Ubuntu on one server, apparently they are faster with pack updates
[09:26] <fidel> they are faster with package updates?
[09:26] <Wheemp> But i've been trying to get it installed for 2 days now.. and i just get that shitty error
[09:26] <fidel> depends when and with what you compare it debian-.wise or am i wrong?
[09:26] <fidel> Wheemp: what error?
[09:26] <Wheemp> fidel: that it can't install the OS because it has no CD-ROM drivers
[09:28] <fidel> ?
[09:28] <Wheemp> fidel: what?
[09:28] <fidel> install it from usb then
[09:28] <fidel> i dont understand your problem/issue
[09:28] <Wheemp> fidel: i can't because it needs a CD-ROM to read files from, i can't get it to retrive files from network
[09:28] <fidel> !details > Wheemp
[09:29] <Wheemp> fidel: ?
[09:29] <Wheemp> fidel: i explained it twice.. scroll up.
[09:29] <Wheemp> fidel: even got an answer that it was problems with server versions and USB installations
[09:29] <Wheemp> fidel: so whats your point?
[09:30] <fidel> well - then everything is great - ignore my question
 So, I think it would be harder to modify a hdd to make it read only, but is there a way to make a bootable cd with an already configured Ubuntu Server ?
[09:31] <fidel> Wheemp: i was trying to help - therefor understand your issue - which would need a short resume. but ignore that now ;)
[09:31] <Wavelight_> I mean to run the server with the live cd only
[09:31] <Wheemp> fidel: which iso to usb program is recommended?
[09:32] <__Alex_> Wheemp: On Windows or Ubuntu?
[09:32] <Wheemp> __Alex_: Windows
[09:33] <__Alex_> Wheemp: google pendrivelinux, they have a good one
[09:34] <Wheemp> __Alex_: ok, tried a few this weekend but none worked apparently
[09:34] <deepspeed> There are only 3 decent programs for putting linux on usb's.
[09:35] <Wheemp> deepspeed: and those are?
[09:35] <deepspeed> The Universal USB Creator, the LiLi (Linux Live) creator, and Unetbootin, which is for linux, not windows.
[09:35] <deepspeed> the first two are windows.
[09:35] <Wheemp> Unetbootin got a windows version to..
[09:35] <__Alex_> Wheemp: deepspeed: Unetbootin has a windows port.
[09:35] <Wheemp> Tried those 3
[09:35] <deepspeed> I have all three.  I've had success and problems with all theree
[09:36] <deepspeed> None is better than the other, imo, but each has its own features.
[09:36] <Wheemp> but i'll try with unversal usb creator again and the desktop version
[09:36] <__Alex_> Wheemp: Does your BIOS support USB booting?
[09:36] <geirha> Wheemp: Did you try to follow the instructions on Ubuntu's download page?
[09:36] <deepspeed> Did you make sure you changed your boot order in BIOS?
[09:37] <Wheemp> Yes/Yes, the problem is not getting the installation to start, problem is that it asks for CD/DVD-ROM drivers which i don't have
[09:37] <Wheemp> So when i choose NO it says "installation failed, can't retrive files"
[09:37] <Wheemp> If i say yes i need to prove it with drivers from floppy
[09:37] <deepspeed> wait.. so the distro installer works, but won't install cuz it asks for drivers?
[09:37] <Wheemp> provide
[09:37] <Wheemp> deepspeed: Yes
[09:38] <deepspeed> derp..
[09:38] <Wheemp> I don't have a floppy nor a CD/DVD-Rock
[09:38] <deepspeed> idk, dude.  I'm just a hacker, not tech support :D
[09:38] <Wheemp> its a rack server with a RAID 6 installation of 5 hdds
[09:38] <deepspeed> and that's a new one on me.
[09:38] <Wheemp> its connected to a DHCP connection which i've tried from the Intel boot selection within the NICs
[09:39] <Wheemp> So there is nothing wrong there, if it tries to get files over internet it will be able to
[09:39] <Wheemp> just that it blabs about that shitty CD-ROM
[09:39] <Wheemp> "we can't detect a CD-ROM"
[09:39] <Wheemp> no shit.. there is none
[09:39] <deepspeed> Did you check the checksum after you installed the iso to make sure it isn't corrupted?
[09:39] <Wheemp> deepspeed: I've done it 20 times..
[09:39] <Wheemp> and yes, no errors in checksum
[09:39] <deepspeed> just checking.
[09:39] <Wheemp> or 40 maybe
[09:40] <alambra> v
[09:40] <deepspeed> I'm bad about not looking at checksums until stuff doesn't work lol
[09:40] <Wheemp> and i don't feel like setting up a server for a netinstall when its for 1-2 servers..
[09:41] <__Alex_> Wheemp: i know i might sound like an ubuntu traitor, but you should try Debian, which is older, more stable, and better for servers. Maybe it's an ubuntu specific prolem
[09:41] <Wheemp> haven't tried the desktop installation though..
[09:41] <Wheemp> __Alex_: i normaly use Debian
[09:41] <Wheemp> thought i'd use Ubuntu because its recommended by everyone
[09:41] <Wheemp> But it looks like i have to ditch that idea..
[09:42] <deepspeed> Maybe try bodhi linux or an offshoot of sorts.  Lots of them are beginning to impress me.
[09:42] <Wheemp> deepspeed: Was setting up a new webserver so i thought i'd use ubuntu on that one..
[09:43] <jiohdi> bodhi is 32bit and based on lucid if that matters, but its great for netbooks
[09:43] <Wheemp> but i'll go back to debian.. already got 40 servers running with that so i'll keep on using things i know how it works.. :P
[09:43] <theadmin> Wheemp: Ubuntu's mostly a desktop distro.
[09:43] <Wheemp> theadmin: thought the server installation was for servers..
[09:43] <Wheemp> or is it just a cool name to use?
[09:43] <theadmin> Wheemp: Well, yeah, it's not like the repos are any different. Just the set of preinstalled packages differs, that's all
[09:44] <Wheemp> theadmin: Ok so its a server installation recommended for desktops?
[09:44] <__Alex_> Lol
[09:44] <deepspeed> I see.  I mentioned bodhi because it's a ubuntu 10.04 base, and will probably be a little easier on your system, and more stable, but it might take a little customizing for what you're wanting.  It's mostly a desktop distro.
[09:44] <Comics-Idees> hi
[09:44] <deepspeed> hi
[09:44] <theadmin> Wheemp: Um... wut? It's just an Ubuntu without the GUI and with various software that's likely to be present on servers.
[09:44] <Comics-Idees> Is there any ebook to learn cli commands for ubuntu??
[09:45] <Wheemp> Nods, i don't use linux for desktops atm, can't get it to work with the programs i need just jet..
[09:45] <Wheemp> yet
[09:45] <deepspeed> Comics-Idees, google
[09:45] <theadmin> Comics-Idees: "man intro" for starters.
[09:45] <deepspeed> Wheemp, what programs are those?
[09:45] <Comics-Idees> theadmin man intro is a cli command? or an ebook
[09:45] <deepspeed> it's a cli command
[09:45] <Wheemp> deepspeed: Flash/Silverlight/html5
[09:45] <theadmin> Comics-Idees: "man" is a command, short for MANual. "intro" is the manual page to read.
[09:46] <one> is there a better word processor for ubuntu than OfficeLibre??
[09:46] <deepspeed> hmm, idk much abt html5, but I know flash works great on my linux distro.
[09:46] <Comics-Idees> thanks
[09:46] <__Alex_> Comics-Idees: Or go to youtube and search "UNIX Terminal tutorial", or something like that
[09:46] <deepspeed> one, there is openoffice.org
[09:46] <theadmin> Wheemp: Flash is available for Linux, there is Moonlight, and HTML 5 is... uh... It's just a web markup thingy, not a program.
[09:46] <one> thanks deep
[09:46] <deepspeed> it's a more full suite, but bulkier
[09:46] <one> can I import custom fonts?
[09:47] <__Alex_> one: Yes
[09:47] <Wheemp> theadmin: moonlight can't handle DRM/WideVine
[09:47] <theadmin> one: Sure, just copy them over to, uh, /usr/share/fonts/TTF
[09:47] <deepspeed> I think so.  It's almost identical to micro$oft office.
[09:47] <jiohdi> one, yes, just drop them into a home folder called .fonts
[09:47] <deepspeed> plus some extra awesomeness
[09:47] <one> excellent
[09:47] <jiohdi> or does that not work any more?
[09:47] <Comics-Idees> thanksserve
[09:48] <theadmin> There's almost no difference between Open- and Libreoffice, except the fact that LibreOffice has cleaner code => faster
[09:48] <theadmin> LO is an OO fork
[09:48] <theadmin> So
[09:48] <deepspeed> I thought it was lighter on some of the features, theadmin
[09:49] <theadmin> deepspeed: Not really... It has everything OpenOffice has, even more cool stuff
[09:49] <__Alex_> How about KOffice?
[09:49] <theadmin> __Alex_: You mean Calligra.
[09:49] <deepspeed> ah.  I haven't used oo.org in a few years now.  Have never seen them side by side to know.
[09:49] <theadmin> It's fine, but has no format support for exporting except ODT
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> deepspeed  http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2011/04/oracle-gives-up-on-ooo-after-community-forks-the-project/
[09:50] <theadmin> Err, ODF
[09:51] <vvompy> hi, is somebody familiar with encrypted partitions? I encrypted a partition a year ago and I somehow remember that I had to type in a password and I forgot that password (which I used to decrypt the partition within nautilus), but I wrote down a longer password which I created during the generation of the partition because I thought that one was the relevant one. Do I have the chance to open that partition again?
[09:51] <__Alex_> vvompy: Nope, unless you are a cryptologist
[09:52] <deepspeed> nice link
[09:52] <d8bhatta> Hello, how can I configure .peb file so that I can login into the server without using peb key, now i am logiing like ssh -i serverfile.pef user@server
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> d8bhatta  bypassing security is not or not well supported here
[09:53] <dr_willis> hmm.. never done it that way,. i just generagte a key and ssh-copy-id servername :) so i  can login without needing to entgter a passord
[09:54] <dr_willis> never even heard of a .peb key. ;)  dident mean .pub ?
[09:54] <deepspeed> I thought .deb at first, but then was like waitwut...
[09:54] <d8bhatta>  dr_willis: ye..its like .pub, client provided me the file
[09:54] <vvompy> __Alex_: So can you give me an overview how the procedure is? For what are the different passwords and what is this actual keyfile?
[09:55] <d8bhatta> dr_willis: how you are doing the stuff for you, is it like copying .pub file into something like id_rsa.pub?
[09:55] <dr_willis> the pub key lets him login to your server  dont it.. you sort of asked how to do the revrese
[09:56] <hroi> hello
[09:56] <deepspeed> hi
[09:56] <hroi> Im looking for a "data"-server or ehm  nas-storage server I can run on top of my ubuntu
[09:56] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  on my client i just do a ssh-keygen, then ssh-copy-id user@server.com   then login that one time..    then after that i dont need to enter pasword
[09:56] <hroi> does anyone know of such a package for ubuntu?
[09:57] <dr_willis> nas devices can share files differnt ways, nfs, ftp, samba, ssh
[09:57] <dr_willis> depends on what you want accessing the data and how.
[09:58] <dr_willis> windows shares = samba
[09:58] <__Alex_> vvompy: When encrypting a partition, you can use a keyfile or a passphrase or both for the encryption, If you chose both, then both have to be available.
[09:59] <__Alex_> vvompy: It's like putting locks on a door
[09:59] <__Alex_> vvompy: you need all the keys
[09:59] <Anomie211> Can anyone help me get the Canon iR3300 printer working? I've downloaded the .PPD file from the canon website and ran that. Which lets me print sometimes (but most of the time it does nothing), but takes AGES to go through, tells me theres no toner, etc...?
[09:59] <d8bhatta> dr_willis: are you keeping .pub file into ~/.ssh/ folder?
[09:59] <d8bhatta> and the login
[09:59] <d8bhatta> then
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> hroi  i use my old remote pc for storage, no extra software needed
[10:00] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  i dont manually mess with them. ssh-copy-id puts them in thee right place in .ssh for me. so im not sure where they are going'
[10:01] <dr_willis> Anomie211:  check the forums and askubuntu.com yet about that printer? could be some known issues/ and work arounds.
[10:01] <dr_willis> i wont buy canon any more. gave away my canon printer last month.
[10:02] <hroi> Monkey, yeb,  just looking for something easy to maintain, looking to share 8TB of space
[10:02] <jneko> man
[10:02] <jneko> I realy love
[10:02] <jneko> Ubuntu
[10:02] <bobbobbio> me too
[10:02] <bobbobbio> its just like this
[10:02] <jneko> it's so amazing
[10:02] <bobbobbio> overwhelming feeling
[10:02] <jneko> of joy
[10:02] <theadmin> hroi: Have you checked Owncloud? It's like Dropbox, but you can host it yourself.
[10:02] <bobbobbio> I just like can't describe
[10:02] <bobbobbio> my love for it
[10:02] <hroi> theadmin:  hmm, no havent, will look
[10:02] <oCean> bobbobbio: do you have a technical question? Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[10:03] <dr_willis> i think we have  a duo of spam bots.
[10:03] <theadmin> hroi: http://owncloud.org/
[10:04] <d8bhatta>  dr_willis: ok, are you using the command like ssh-copy-id  -i  publicfile.pub user@servere.com
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> hroi  this is almost two years old, but lay be useful http://www.sohoadvisers.com/tutorials/ubuntu-linux/create-a-nas-using-ubuntu-linux
[10:04] <hroi> theadmin:  thanks, looks promising for other things Im working on,
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> may*
[10:04] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  i just uae ssh-copy-id user@server
[10:04] <hroi> theadmin: does it have a windows client?
[10:04] <dr_willis> im using the  simpelist case.
[10:04] <hroi> theadmin:  to share with windows home users?
[10:04] <theadmin> hroi: It's web-based. You can also mount it as WebDAV.
[10:05] <theadmin> hroi: So yes, it has a "Windows client", you could say.
[10:05] <d8bhatta> dr_willis: then how you are referening the pub file provided by your client?
[10:05] <hroi> theadmin:  very nice :)
[10:05] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  i dont need to. its using the files i generated with ssh-keygen
[10:05] <hroi> MonkeyDust: thanks,
[10:06] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  so im guessing its using my default .ssh/whatever.pub file
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> hroi  mind: don't use webmin
[10:07] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  it then uses the password that one/first time to verify its me. and puts the pub in the files on the right place on the server
[10:07] <d8bhatta> dr_willis: keygen generates pub files based on your computer, you can give this pub file to other so that they can access your server, But here my case is I am provided with .pub file and have to use it in the way that I can login into the server without referencing the file name all the time
[10:08] <dr_willis> d8bhatta:  im rereading that.. and it looks like somthings backwards to me.. but im not a ssh expert
[10:09] <dr_willis> the pub key is made by the client.. and   ssent to the server..
[10:09] <Duality> hi how do i copy the contents of a folder rather then the folder ?
[10:09] <dr_willis> you dont give the pub key to someone so they can get INTO your server.. (or am i confused?)
[10:09] <nsadmin> I'm pretty sure the pub key and the priv key are generated at the same time... how can it be otherwise?
[10:10] <dr_willis> right the pub key is used by the server to verify the privite key..
[10:10]  * dr_willis  has been at work for 8 hrs... so im getting muddled
[10:10] <nsadmin> then you append the pub key (which is in asc form) to the remote's authorized_keys
[10:11] <dr_willis> the 'remote' is the server you are connecting To,'
[10:11] <nsadmin> that should do it as far as ssh
[10:11] <nsadmin> yes
[10:11] <nsadmin> or the whatever you're connecting to
[10:11] <dr_willis> which is in the users .ssh  dir normally
[10:11] <nsadmin> also yes
[10:11] <dr_willis> so.. now i forget the original question... ;)
[10:12] <dr_willis> and its time for me to leave work. so i will be back =in an hr or 2
[10:14] <d8bhatta> dr_willis:  :) original question is:  i am provided .pub key so I am login into  the remote server with the command ssh -i file.pub user@server.com ....each time I have to do this, I want to set the provided pub key into my local in the way that from the next time I don't have to reference the pub to login into the server. I hope this helps.
[10:15] <jagginess> hi
[10:16] <jagginess> using textual install (alternate)-- dam thing froze when trying to rerun the partitioner (already was on the grub-install step-- and wanted to add a partition) :/
[10:16] <jagginess> :(
[10:16] <bris_> hi
[10:19] <oCean> d8bhatta: a pub key is used to verify your private key. This pub key needs to reside on the machine you are connecting to. So there is actually nothing you can do with a received pub key, other than give access to your machine to the person owning the private key to that pub key
[10:20] <oCean> still with me? :-)
[10:20] <d8bhatta> oCean: yes I am with yo
[10:20] <DarkStar1> what's the name of the default window manager on 12.04 I need to gksu a terminal
[10:21] <DarkStar1> not a terminal a admin window to copy around some files
[10:21] <theadmin> DarkStar1: "window manager" would be Compiz.
[10:21] <theadmin> DarkStar1: File manager though? Still Nautilus.
[10:22] <d8bhatta> oCean: we can also login into that server using the provided .pub key with the command I types above i.e. ssh -i theFile.pub user@server
[10:22] <d8bhatta> login into that server from local machine
[10:23] <yharrow> my intel card is unbrearably slow iand i cant figure out why
[10:23] <yharrow> can someone help
[10:23] <theadmin> yharrow: Because it's an Intel card?
[10:23] <theadmin> yharrow: They're not too great on 3D or acceleration or anything :/
[10:23] <yharrow> theadmin it was much faste rin the livecd
[10:23] <wasanzy> hi
[10:24] <DarkStar1> theadmin: Ok. thx
[10:24] <yharrow> it was much faster in the livecd
[10:24] <yharrow> and now i messed with drivers
[10:24] <yharrow> it sucks
[10:24] <theadmin> yharrow: Hm well, "unmess" with them then.
[10:24] <oCean> d8bhatta: to me, that makes no sense. That would mean you can log in in ANY server you want, since the pub key has nothing to do with the other server
[10:24] <yharrow> i have no idea how
[10:24] <theadmin> yharrow: You can disable the propretiary drivers in the same app you enable them in, jockey-gtk
[10:24] <yharrow> thre are none
[10:24] <vampirnata> why are you messing with the drivers if you clearly don't understand
[10:24] <yharrow> vampirnata: i have 2 cards
[10:25] <yharrow> vampirnata: i was trying to get the nvidia to work inow i just give up on it
[10:25] <theadmin> yharrow: Well, just do the reverse of whatever you did.
[10:25] <yharrow> vampirnata: i want at least my intel back
[10:25] <yharrow> theadmin: i uninstalled them all
[10:25] <vampirnata> what i don't understand is why you didn't boot the live cd and install the system from the livecd.
[10:25] <yharrow> i did
[10:25] <yharrow> but then i installed driveers
[10:25] <vampirnata> why
[10:25] <theadmin> !info xorg-video-intel | yharrow
[10:25] <d8bhatta> oCean:  if that would not make any sense to you, I have questionb, why the ssh doesn't work without mentioning pub key in the command?
[10:25] <yharrow> for my second card
[10:25] <theadmin> ...huh?
[10:26] <vampirnata> but you said it was fine in the livecd
[10:26] <yharrow> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:26] <theadmin> yharrow: Well this. Install that.
[10:26] <yharrow> theadmin:  i did
[10:26] <theadmin> yharrow: With "lsmod | grep intel", do you get any output?
[10:26] <yharrow> yes
[10:27] <Gyges> yharrow, i have two cards ,too
[10:27] <theadmin> Hm okay, so the driver works fine allright
[10:27] <yharrow> yes
[10:27] <yharrow> but its slow as slog
[10:27]  * Gyges (composite?)
[10:27] <theadmin> yharrow: If it was fast before and this is a relatively new install, it'd be simplier to just reinstall, no?
[10:27] <vampirnata> i agree
[10:27] <wasanzy> I am trying to enable dual monitor in my ubuntu 12.04 but when I run sudo amdcccle and chose Multi-display desktop in the Multi-Display tab, and click apply, I get this error and the luncher disappears
[10:27] <wasanzy> Error: http://pastebin.com/3DHfF686
[10:27] <yharrow> *sigh oh well guess I will do tht then
[10:27] <Wavelight_> sorry for asking it again, but someone please tell me if I can make a live cd from an already installed Ubuntu Server ?
[10:27] <oCean> d8bhatta: the "pub" key you received is probably a private key.
[10:27] <Wavelight_> thnak you
[10:28] <vampirnata> you could have done this already :)
[10:28] <Wavelight_> thank you, sorry
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> yharrow  nvidia doesnt like linux and linus torvalds hates them for it
[10:28] <yharrow> i dont want to lose all my ppas
[10:28] <yharrow> and pacakges
[10:28] <wasanzy> please help me out
[10:28] <vampirnata> sometimes a reinstall is just the quickest route
[10:28] <oCean> d8bhatta: from the man ssh page "-i    Selects a file from which the identity (private key)"
[10:28] <jagginess> ns hes still here lol
[10:28] <vampirnata> yharrow: you've been shown how to backup your packages
[10:28] <yharrow> i spent alot of time instelling stuff
[10:28] <yharrow> and finding ppas
[10:28] <yharrow> vampirnata: but that covers ppas too?
[10:28] <yharrow> i mean the source
[10:29] <vampirnata> you can back up your home
[10:29] <vampirnata> and the installed packages
[10:29] <yharrow> vampir home its own partition but finding sources takes time
[10:29] <vampirnata> if you've downloaded source you can back those up too
[10:29] <paul_uk> hey all, can anyone recommend a remmina rdp replacement?  It works once and then subsequent logins it just shows a blank screen.  Also KRDC just sucks.
[10:29] <theadmin> yharrow: Backup /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*, /etc/apt/sources.list and the dpkg database (see !clone), then restore them in that order.
[10:29] <yharrow> vamp all those ppa s that i added
[10:29] <theadmin> paul_uk: Vinagre?
[10:29] <yharrow> theadmin: thats just sources i dont thikn ppa is listed there
[10:29] <jagginess> paul_uk: freerdp
[10:30] <theadmin> yharrow: Uh, no, PPAs are an APT source.
[10:30] <jagginess> paul_uk: but i dont know if theres a gui front end
[10:30] <d8bhatta> oCean: you caught me...ye its private file..appreciated!
[10:30] <jagginess> (or xfreerdp)
[10:30]  * jagginess screwed 
[10:30]  * jagginess afk fixing smthing
[10:31] <paul_uk> jagginess, its really for connecting to win7 machines rather than hosting the protocol.  it's a shame remmina sucks with 12.04, it was fine with 11.10
[10:31] <oCean> d8bhatta: hehe, ok. I think you can use the ssh config file to specify that you want to use a certain file with a certain host. (then it would not longer be required to specify that key every time)
[10:32] <theadmin> paul_uk: *ahem* Try vinagre. Always worked for me, I think it comes (or used to) preinstalled too
[10:32] <yharrow> should i download the x64 image?
[10:32] <oCean> d8bhatta: nvm, I'm off to lunch
[10:32] <d8bhatta> oCean: great!...thanks..I will try to get the stuff by myself..
[10:32] <vampirnata> yharrow: http://linuxexchange.org/questions/619/backuprestore-third-party-ppas
[10:33] <jagginess> paul_uk: apt-cache search freerdp (dpkg -L <packagename>|grep bin)
[10:33] <vampirnata> it's a simple google search away :/
[10:33] <paul_uk> jagginess, thanks i just did that already... :)
[10:33] <yharrow> well i triec to fix the intel driver but if nobody has the answer in 24 horus i doubt they ever will
[10:34] <jagginess> paul_uk: i use https:// to access my remote linux :p
[10:34] <vampirnata> yharrow: you still don't understand. if you want a quick fix and not willing to learn and READ then a) you are using the wrong OS and b) are in the wrong channel
[10:34] <paul_uk> jagginess, ok.  but i want to access my remote windows lol
[10:34] <yharrow> vampirnata:  i dont mind learning
[10:35] <yharrow> if i have to learn hwo to program from source code so be it
[10:35] <yharrow> i just need a direction
[10:35] <yharrow> and right now i have no idea what to do
[10:35] <yharrow> to fix it
[10:35] <jagginess> paul_uk: nomachine is rolling a final release sometime for more than linux :)-- so eventually you'll be able to https:// to windows and mac home machines.. (and without needing to go through a commercial proxy at all)
[10:35] <yharrow> other than reinstall
[10:36] <vampirnata> the thing is, your problem is obviously not an easy one and a reinstall is the best course of action for you. maybe when you learn more you will be able to solve these types of problems, or at least have an idea where to start
[10:36] <jagginess> paul_uk: (which btw i get remote audio with linux already -- but with the binary edition :)
[10:36] <yharrow> vampirnata: i will literally do *anything* to fix it if someone will tell me what to do
[10:36] <paul_uk> jagginess, this is all local so i don't need the overhead of https
[10:36] <theadmin> vampirnata: That was rather rude. Ubuntu is a newbie-friendly OS, to the extent I wouldn't be surprised if man-pages won't come installed by default with the next release ;) Therefore, don't just send people off when they don't know how to ask or such.
[10:37] <vampirnata> theadmin: i am not rude at all... you haven't been in here since this morning
[10:37] <jagginess> paul_uk: no plugins.. it works right out of the box basically (and its very fast in webbrowsing experience)
[10:37] <yharrow> theadmin its  a common misconception that ubuntu is noobie friendly
[10:37] <yharrow> its friendly if it works for u
[10:37] <yharrow> if it doesnt
[10:37] <paul_uk> jagginess, yeah i used nomachine about 5 years ago
[10:37] <theadmin> yharrow: Well, I guess so.
[10:37] <yharrow> and u dont have money for tech support
[10:37] <vampirnata> many experienced people have tried to help. but unfortunetly yharrow doesn't have basic knowledge to even start fixing this problem
[10:37] <paul_uk> i have been using linux since fedora 6 lol
[10:38] <theadmin> vampirnata: Err, I didn't quite understand that last sentence. I'm visiting this channel quite often since 2010 if that's what you mean :/
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> yharrow  nvidia is the problem, not ubuntu, blame nvidia, not ubuntu
[10:38] <jagginess> paul_uk: you should do remote linux.. why do windows?
[10:38] <yharrow> theadmin see what vampirnata said
[10:38] <vampirnata> theadmin: i meant you were not online this morning when others were trying to help
[10:38] <yharrow> i am a complete noob
[10:38] <paul_uk> jagginess: there are tons of reasons why.  i cba to go into them
[10:38] <theadmin> vampirnata: Ah... ok.
[10:38] <yharrow> everyone was trying to help me
[10:38] <vampirnata> i'm not at all being rude to yharrow
[10:38] <jagginess> paul_uk: also the nomachine binary client.. can do vnc/rdp/nx .. however i'm not sure if the rdp it does requires nx as a proxy..
[10:38] <yharrow> theadmin:  but with as little knowledge as i have
[10:38] <yharrow> its hard to help me
[10:39] <vampirnata> hence why the best route is a reinstall
[10:39] <theadmin> yharrow: Well, if you admit that you have too little knowledge to actually fix whatever the problem may be, just reinstall, I agree
[10:39] <yharrow> vampirnata: i would but i specifically want to learn
[10:39] <yharrow> theadmin: i dont care how long it takes
[10:39] <theadmin> yharrow: Learning on a broken system is a bad idea :P
[10:40] <vampirnata> ^ this
[10:40] <theadmin> It's like a doctor trying to heal a corpse
[10:40] <yharrow> fixing a problem isnt a good way to learn?
[10:40] <yharrow> theadmin doctors learn on corpses all the time
[10:40] <yharrow> its part of medical school
[10:40] <theadmin> yharrow: Err, okay, well you get my point I hope.
[10:40] <yharrow> i do
[10:40]  * theadmin ain't into no medicine
[10:40] <yharrow> u cant learn on dead ppl before u know what a live one looks like
[10:41] <Harshad> Can I get back my grub2 which I lost after installing windows 7 without Ubuntu live CD? like with EasyBCD?
[10:41] <nicola> Hi!
[10:41] <yharrow> i cant learn froma broken machine unless i know what its SUPPOSED to look like right?
[10:41] <theadmin> !recovergrub | Harshad
[10:41] <theadmin> !restoregrub | Harshad
[10:42] <jagginess> paul_uk: you think you can do a triple boot -- each OS in software raid1 :ppp
[10:42] <Harshad> theadmin: it shows ways to get back grub2 using a ubuntu cd
[10:42] <Harshad> theadmin: but I don't
[10:42] <theadmin> Harshad: Ah, you said *without*, pardon me.
[10:42] <theadmin> Harshad: Bwah. Can you boot any OS?
[10:42] <paul_uk> jagginess. omg lol ever heard of virtualisation? I have ubutun 64 as the host and I have a linux vm, OSX vm and Windows 7 vm.  Why would I need to triple boot?
[10:42]  * jagginess is finishing up his third raid1 OS-- win/osx/linux(ubuntu baby)
[10:42] <Harshad> theadmin: yeah win7
[10:43] <theadmin> Harshad: Well, I suggest the following scenario... Install Virtualbox, feed the physical drive to it, boot an Ubuntu ISO there and proceed as described in the article.
[10:43] <jagginess> paul_uk: apparently i've learned that linux software raid can be used on the same disks as osx.. apparently.. i have my reasons :p
[10:43] <theadmin> Harshad: Though that may be risky, I'm not sure how Windows will like the boot sector changing all of a sudden...
[10:43] <paul_uk> jagginess, awesome
[10:44] <Harshad> theadmin: I don't have ubuntu iso either, can't I use easeyBCD?
[10:44] <theadmin> Harshad: I think you may be able to, but I've never touched it
[10:44] <Harshad> theadmin: ok ill try it
[10:44] <jagginess> paul_uk: which btw i have osx as software raid1 as well.. (and on amd if you know what i mean)
[10:44] <theadmin> Harshad: There's also grub4dos and such
[10:45] <Harshad> theadmin: ok
[10:45] <theadmin> Harshad: You can also boot your ubuntu with plop and then restore GRUB from there.
[10:45] <Harshad> plop?
[10:45] <paul_uk> I had one earlier thanks!
[10:45] <jagginess> paul_uk: you hosting these' vm's on cluster servers.. raid sets?
[10:45] <theadmin> Harshad: Plop is a miniature bootloader that can be installed from Windows with a simple .bat script
[10:45] <Harshad> theadmin: okay, ty
[10:45] <paul_uk> jagginess, yeah I have a 100TB beowolf cluster in my bedroom
[10:46] <jagginess> paul_uk: not bad.. you should go more into the cloud service stuff.. that seems to be the new wave of things
[10:46] <Harshad> theadmin: which one? http://www.plop.at/en/windowstools.html
[10:46] <paul_uk> jagginess, thanks for the freerdp recommendation!
[10:46] <theadmin> Harshad: http://download.plop.at/files/bootmngr/plpbt-5.0.14.zip
[10:47] <jagginess> paul_uk: the ubuntu server edition is supposed to be good at handling the vm/cloud space things.. i yet to check that out..
[10:47] <Harshad> theadmin: ty
[10:47] <theadmin> Harshad: Unpack, find either Install_to_boot_menu.bat (installs to Windows boot menu) or Install_to_MBR.bat (installs to boot sector), run that as admin
[10:47] <kingsikes> can someone help me with a graphics adaptor issue?
[10:47] <yharrow> thanks for everybody's help
[10:47] <Harshad> theadmin: ok
[10:47] <theadmin> kingsikes: That's very vague. Details.
[10:48] <theadmin> Harshad: And by "run as admin" I mean right-click and choose "Run as administrator", not just with an administrative account.
[10:48] <Harshad> theadmin: ok
[10:48] <kingsikes> i have 2 graphics adaptors - Intel and Nvidia.  Ubuntu seems to currently be using Intel and I need it to use Nvidia instead
[10:49]  * jagginess think yharrow has been irc'ing his first time for twelve hours today..yesterday 
[10:49] <jagginess> :[
[10:49] <jagginess> :)
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> there should be a factoid about nvidia not well supporting linux
[10:50] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!!
[10:51] <kingsikes> how can i make ubuntu use my nvidia adaaptor instead of the Intel one?
[10:51]  * theadmin drinks DoctorPepper
[10:51] <theadmin> Sorry, couldn't hold back. *ahem*.
[10:51] <DoctorPepper> is anyone in here using ubuntu on a MacBook pro 8,x  with intel graphics?
[10:52] <jagginess> kingsikes: stop lightdm, X -configure, cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. edit xorg.conf, possibly you can replace the intel keyword with nvidia-- dont forget to have nvidia driver installed (and use sudo as necessary)
[10:52] <jagginess> kingsikes: (and of course once edited, you can start lightdm)
[10:53] <jagginess> kingsikes: it's hype and geekness, but thats what i check/do/tinker to fix X11.. definitely not fun..
[10:53] <Harshad> theadmin: it installed
[10:54] <Harshad> theadmin: to windows boot menu
[10:54] <subhojit_> I have accidentally done git revert HEAD and now the latest commit has been reverted. How to fix this? My repo has gone back to an earlier commit and some of the files are missing. How do I fix this?
[10:54] <theadmin> Harshad: k, well now reboot and choose the plop from the windows boot menu, then choose the partition your Linux is at, it will boot it.
[10:54] <Harshad> theadmin: ok
[10:59] <wjorgew> ya está
[10:59] <wjorgew> que tal
[10:59] <Idestem_> Hi!
[10:59] <wjorgew> 3iug
[11:00] <wjorgew> bbxbxbxbxbx
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[11:00] <wjorgew> ddc
[11:01]  * qwebirc29782 tickles someone speaking to the air
[11:02] <Liszt> NICK <Liszt>
[11:03] <rob_> hi, could someone quickly explain to me the difference between the ruby1.9.3 package and the ruby1.9.1 package? /usr/bin/ruby1.9.1 --version seems to return version: ruby 1.9.3
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> rob_  better ask in #ruby
[11:05] <rob_> MonkeyDust: ok thanks
[11:06] <railsraider> hi, when i do a sed "s/OLD/NEW/" file.txt it doesn't save the cahange
[11:06] <railsraider> do i need to do > newfile.txt
[11:07] <nsadmin> that's one way
[11:07] <rob_> railsraider: use -i for inline
[11:07] <maciejjo> ls
[11:07] <nsadmin> ellis
[11:07] <railsraider> rob_:  so -i before the file.txt right?
[11:07] <rob_> yeah
[11:07] <railsraider> thanks\
[11:07] <rob_> no worries
[11:12] <chiba_> hi
[11:13] <Silster> hi there
[11:13] <Silster> New to Ubuntu and Iḿ trying out irc chat now
[11:13] <Silster> seems to work!
[11:13] <lamaz> seems so
[11:13] <Silster> need to change my keyboard settings though
[11:13] <Silster> brb
[11:16] <Silster> let's see
[11:16] <Idestem_> Hi!
[11:16] <Silster> yep that did the trick
[11:21] <d8bhatta> hello, I am ssmtp in my local to send email and with google account  setting, it sends email. But when I try to use mail server provided by client , i get message like sendmail: 554 Message rejected: Email address is not verified.
[11:21] <d8bhatta> and my mail server is placed into amazon server
[11:22] <UndiFineD> d8bhatta, https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=88148
[11:24] <vavoysh> So, I was upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04, when suddenly the upgrade decided to log me out and then reboot. When I get back to the login screen, my computer will not recognize my keyboard or my mouse. Does anyone either know a) how to get it so that I can log on and complete the upgrade, b) upgrade from a CD [using live CD, the website does not help], or c) just recover the system so that I can actually use my computer?
[11:26] <d8bhatta> UndiFineD: thanks for the link, I can send email from amazon server but cannot send using the server info in local
[11:27] <UndiFineD> Paolo's reply is interesting, follow his link, maybe you need to register your clients email address
[11:28] <Arketype> Bonjour
[11:29] <UndiFineD> d8bhatta, I have not worked with amazon services, google is my friend
[11:30] <vavoysh> Anyone?
[11:35] <nlici> using ubuntu 12.04 printer receives the data but does not print , i am sure printer drivers are ok . please help if not i need to pass to windows .thanks
[11:37] <nlici> using ubuntu 12.04 printer receives the data but does not print , i am sure printer drivers are ok . please help if not i need to pass to windows .thanks
[11:39] <nlici> any printer does not work when i make usb connection
[11:40] <fl0w> I might be in the wrong channel but I'm trying to get my MySQL installation to be able to output/write files into my /tmp/ directory, and as I understand it apparmor is blocking this functionality. How can I temporarily unblock this enforcement?
[11:41] <UndiFineD> nlici, please provide more info and leave windows out of your question
[11:41] <fl0w> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04.
[11:42] <UndiFineD> fl0w, write an apparmor rule
[11:42] <nlici> @undifineD  i am using ubuntu 12.04 and all the drivers i connect through usb does not work it says receiving data but does not printing . I have brother dcp-165 c.when i connect printer through the wirelless network the printer works .
[11:43] <UndiFineD> fl0w,  I think this is like your isssue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1203454
[11:43] <fl0w> UndiFineD: Thanks.
[11:44] <UndiFineD> nlici, my HP printer was easily found by avahi-daemon
[11:45] <UndiFineD> nlici, I have no experience with brother, but I think it is alike
[11:46] <nlici> i guess the problem is not related with brother because any printer that i connect by the usb does not work
[11:46] <nlici> that means there is a problem in the program it self
[11:47] <nsadmin> look at dmesg and/or other logs
[11:52] <vavoysh> So, I was upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04, when suddenly the upgrade decided to log me out and then reboot. When I get back to the login screen, my computer will not recognize my keyboard or my mouse. Does anyone either know a) how to get it so that I can log on and complete the upgrade, b) upgrade from a CD [using live CD, the website does not help], or c) just recover the system so that I can actually use my computer?
[11:55] <rockfruit> I want to add arbitrary text to my systray/notification area (current repo branch for some project). How?  is there a libappindicator utility that can do this for me?
[11:56] <nsadmin> rockfruit, can you just add something like xconsole, and write to that console?
[11:58] <rockfruit> nsadmin, seems like that means having another window floating around.. whereas I have all this free space up there...
[11:59] <rockfruit> (unity btw)
[11:59] <tsuser> can any one send installation of windows7 over pxe
[11:59] <tsuser> in ubuntu
[12:00] <nsadmin> just an idea... thought it might be easier since you're dealing with something that already has a defined purpose and an implementation for that purpose
[12:00] <rockfruit> i see..ok well thanks... I'm going through the python libappindicator docs
[12:01] <Nytelife> setting dual monitors with xbmc to work in 12 is painful
[12:01] <Nytelife> *getting
[12:01]  * rockfruit hugs unity
[12:02] <fidel> hi - i am wondering what apps you guys might recommend on ubuntu for time-tracking. I.e. i would like to track single tasks in my daily workflow in categories like: doing mail, doing research etc
[12:03] <fidel> i stumpled upon hamster right now - which seems ...ok ... but its the only app i tested so far
[12:03] <fidel> it would be great if the app would let me generate reports
[12:03] <nsadmin> some kind of project manager app
[12:04] <UndiFineD> tsuser, yes tftp should be able to
[12:05] <UndiFineD> fidel, zeitgeist does most of that
[12:06] <UndiFineD> it does not tell you what to do, but you can look at what you have done before
[12:13] <fidel> UndiFineD: yep it does - but then again it does it NOT in categories
[12:13] <fidel> it does it on file-system layer iirc
[12:13] <fidel> so - its not really usefull for time-tracking - but for file-usage history or am i wrong?
[12:16] <linux> hah
[12:16] <linux> haha
[12:18] <aspiremint> hello, is there somebody? need help with compiz (zorin kde)
[12:18] <nsadmin> I am... somebody... I think... therefore I might be...
[12:18] <m477> does 64bit version of ubuntu  will work faster on my core 2duo?
[12:18] <UndiFineD> fidel, well perhaps you could schedule some tasks in evolution calender
[12:19] <marco> aspiremint: tell you problem instead of asking for help
[12:19] <UndiFineD> fidel, or how about a crontab :P
[12:19] <fidel> UndiFineD: not using evolution either ;)
[12:19] <fidel> UndiFineD: using cron for time-tracking sounds ....well like using os2 nowadays
[12:20] <fidel> os2 was fine - but you wouldnt consider it today in99,99% of all cases ;)
[12:20] <Guest95587> hello
[12:20] <Guest95587> i wanna know if upstart can handle the return code of a service, like catch "-2" and restart the service
[12:20] <Guest95587> i already asked the question to #upstart channel but no answer yet
[12:20] <UndiFineD> os2 is still being used today :P
[12:20] <fidel> UndiFineD: yep - but not in most cases ...see 99,99% ;)
[12:20] <bmc_> Hi....  This morning's package upgraded failed due to authentication error with the apt packages themselves.  Version 12.04.  Has this been seen by others?  I'm reluctant to upgrade without authentication.
[12:21] <UndiFineD> IBM loves it for their old tape robotics
[12:21] <aspiremint> zorin os have installed compiz, but didnt work (super+e, etc....), how to start it?
[12:21] <sacarlson> Guest95587: upstart must get some feedback as it seems to keep things running,  I think it just monitors in if the apps not running it restarts it
[12:21] <fidel> UndiFineD: anyway it was just an example - i am looking for time-tracking apps - not manual hacks offering some workaround for not having a real solution ;)
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> aspiremint  zorin is and mint ar not supported here
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[12:23] <aspiremint> MonkeyDust: why? "Zorin OS is an Ubuntu based Linux distribution that combines all the benefits of Ubuntu" and i am at Ubuntu channel :(
[12:25] <nsadmin> aspiremint, conventional wisdom suggests that support channels constructed for that os might have more current info, and that people here might or mignt not want to pursue other OSes for the sole purpose of supporting people
[12:25] <sacarlson> Guest95587: seems to have some good docs to read http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[12:26] <UndiFineD> fidel, http://askubuntu.com/questions/4113/which-time-tracker-application-do-you-recommend
[12:26] <linux> so many supermen in ubantu,I am a rush one
[12:26] <nsadmin> aspiremint, I'm just saying, you might find answers if you look there
[12:26] <fidel> UndiFineD: thanks ...lets see if theres something new.
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> !mint| aspiremint try here
[12:26] <vavoysh> So, I was upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04, when suddenly the upgrade decided to log me out and then reboot. When I get back to the login screen, my computer will not recognize my keyboard or my mouse. Does anyone either know a) how to get it so that I can log on and complete the upgrade, b) upgrade from a CD [using live CD, the website does not help], or c) just recover the system so that I can actually use my computer?
[12:28] <sacarlson> vavoysh: I can't wait till they get the restore back to the way it was before I upgraded botton.  until they get that working I will continue to install on spare partitions
[12:29] <nsadmin> vavoysh, (hmm. deja vu... have I heard that whole comment before?) you might want to upgrade while X is not active at all
[12:29] <GOMI> can't get video only sound wiht .wmv format ? what codec do i need for it to work.
[12:29] <AdvoWork> if doing telnet whatever 25 which fails, connection timed out, can i get the detailed information why from somewhere?
[12:29] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, my installation of Ubuntu randomly hiccups when scrolling or doing other tasks that take up almost no processing power. Anybody know why it might be doing this? Don't have this problem with any other distro?
[12:29] <vavoysh> nsadmin: while what is not active?
[12:30] <nsadmin> X
[12:30] <sacarlson> vavoysh: otherwise many times in this state best you can do it recover your /home/user data to a usb or other media and reinstall is my best guess
[12:30] <fidel> DeltaHeavy: so you are running several distris on that same hardware? just wondering
[12:30] <fidel> DeltaHeavy: sure you do have some current gfx-drivers?
[12:30] <vavoysh> sacarlson: yeah that's my other option but for understandable reasons I don't really want to do so
[12:30] <vavoysh> nsadmin: what's X?
[12:30] <DeltaHeavy> fidel: I have CentOS on here too. Also where would I check for that? Update don't say anything for that and this machine just has integrated graphics.
[12:31] <fidel> so all other distris is centos ok ;)
[12:31] <nsadmin> vavoysh, everything graphical in a linux almost always uses X, and ubuntu is no exception
[12:31] <fidel> DeltaHeavy: the gfx-driver as possible reason was just a quick idea
[12:32] <DeltaHeavy> fidel: Well CentOS is working fine on here so I'm assuming this is an Ubuntu problem considering it's fairly different compared to most other distros
[12:32] <vavoysh> nsadmin: oh, that X. But do you know a way that I can 'fix' this?
[12:32] <nsadmin> vavoysh, no, sure don't
[12:32] <DeltaHeavy> I'm wondering if Ubuntu just got as bulky as Vista in the past 2 years since I've used it.
[12:33] <nsadmin> you might start with dpkg --configure --pending
[12:33] <sacarlson> vavoysh: you say you have no keyboard or mouse control,  oh can you maybe at boot in grub boot the recover kernel?
[12:33] <UndiFineD> DeltaHeavy, it might be a cgroup thing, for which a latency daemon was developed
[12:33] <vavoysh> sacarlson: the recover kernel has the same issue, no keyboard/mouse control
[12:33] <sacarlson> vavoysh: hold shift at boot and menu pick the recover or whatever they call it now
[12:33] <oooaaaoooo> hi guys is there any tool in ubuntu 12.04 for me to scan who's on my network?
[12:34] <DeltaHeavy> UndiFineD: My network latency is fine. It's more just general usage. Feels all clunky
[12:34] <sacarlson> vavoysh: if recover kernel fails next step is live cd boot and posibly try chroot back to your sytem and continue upgrade,  unlikly to work but
[12:34] <DeltaHeavy> UndiFineD: Or is what you're tlaking about not about network latency?
[12:35] <vavoysh> sacarlson: how exactly would I do that?
[12:35] <UndiFineD> DeltaHeavy, no :)
[12:35] <DeltaHeavy> UndiFineD: What exactly am I looking for?
[12:35] <UndiFineD> DeltaHeavy, apt-get install ulatency ulatencyd
[12:35] <sacarlson> vavoysh: do you know how to boot a live cd ?  do you have a live cd or usb to boot with?
[12:36] <vavoysh> sacarlson: yeah, I know how do to do that (and I can boot from both, although neither has a recovery option), I'm confused what you mean by the chroot part
[12:36] <vavoysh> sacarlson: do you want me to open a shell in my system and attempt the ugprade from there?
[12:36] <vavoysh> cuz I can attempt that
[12:37] <UndiFineD> DeltaHeavy, I am not 100% sure this will solve it for you, I tried it for a day or 2 but found it rather heavy on the cpu
[12:37] <Helios> ot
[12:38] <sacarlson> vavoysh: I would recover what you can before you continue any operations then attempt to fix, some info for chroot but not how to fix http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[12:38] <vavoysh> sacarlson: alright, thank you, i'll take a look at that
[12:39] <sacarlson> vavoysh: yes from a non graphic mode in chroot you might try to continue upgrade
[12:39] <sacarlson> vavoysh: after you spend more than 3 hours trying, give up and reinstall
[12:39] <vavoysh> sacarlson: alright, thank you
[12:42] <goodflood> hello
[12:42] <DeltaHeavy> UndiFineD: Problems still happening >:
[12:43] <baazigar> hello how can i check if something is being downloaded in the background or how much speed is internet giving in ubuntu... For example in windows, in networking tab of task manager, we can see all internet connections and their respective speeds.
[12:43] <UndiFineD> hmmm
[12:43] <JasonDC> anyone here able to review this bash script and output and give me an idea of what could be wrong? http://fpaste.org/rjGI/
[12:44] <danawar2> System>Administration>System Monitor>Resources>Network History
[12:44] <danawar2> Let me know if that helps baazigar
[12:44] <UndiFineD> DeltaHeavy, did you try powertop to see what is going on
[12:44] <baazigar> danawar2 : checking it out
[12:44] <sacarlson> baazigar: iftop -i eth0  is one of many methods
[12:45] <frank_> -h
[12:45] <DeltaHeavy> UndiFineD: I'll check
[12:45] <goodflood> I have a usb stick that is unreadable/unmountable. Can anyone help?
[12:45] <JasonDC> goodflood, did it just start happening; or is it new?
[12:46] <goodflood> Not new; I was using it.
[12:46] <JasonDC> okay; open the terminal and run "sudo fdisk -l"
[12:46] <JasonDC> pastebin that output
[12:46] <goodflood> did that.. not detected
[12:46] <fidel> goodflood: tested this stick on > 1 computer/device?
[12:46] <danawar2> System>Administration>Disk Utility Does it appear  under Storage Devices?
[12:47] <danawar2> Let me know if it does goodfllod
[12:47] <JasonDC> could it be physical damage to the stick making the contacts not connecting properly
[12:47] <danawar2> goodflood *
[12:47] <goodflood> I am on lubuntu live cd at the moment... but, gparted does not show it
[12:47] <goodflood> dd and ddrescue cannot read from it (no media found error)
[12:48] <goodflood> testdisk does not pick up on it
[12:49] <baazigar> danawar2 : i didnt get any administration option in the system settings, i am not sure if i am doing it right
[12:49] <goodflood> I doubt about physical damage... I been in my office since yesterday...
[12:50] <fidel> goodflood: does it work on any other computer?
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> goodflood  start from the beginning, since when are you having these issues and what did you do before it started go wrong
[12:50] <goodflood> I think I pulled it out of a windows 7 comp and then it went dead
[12:50] <fidel> so - is the problem reproduceable with the stick alone - or do you need this one specific host for it?
[12:50] <UndiFineD> goodflood, the stick, is it from silicon power ?
[12:51] <goodflood> stick is imation nano pro
[12:51] <goodflood> my guess is that between me pulling it out during a write and windows reassigning a drive letter, I got screwed
[12:51] <danawar2> goodfloof did you "JasonDC: okay; open the terminal and run "sudo fdisk -l"
[12:52] <goodflood> yes, fdisk -l gives me nothing
[12:52] <JasonDC> run it as root
[12:52] <danawar2> Does windows still recognise it?
[12:52] <goodflood> yes
[12:52] <baazigar> sacarlson : your command was what i needed !
[12:52] <UndiFineD> I have a few broken sticks too, no way to detect them after connecting
[12:53] <sacarlson> goodflood: time to try plug it into another slot sometime just change conections or unplug replug fixes it for me
[12:53] <sab0> hi i am using ubuntu 10.04 along with windows 7, but as i always update my ubuntu in my grub boot list theres lot of option,can any one please tell me how can i delete some and keep only win7 and one ubuntu 10.04
[12:53] <goodflood> but it comes up and says insert media (like it is a CD ROM drive)
[12:53] <pvh_sa> hey there i'm on 12.04 with a Intel 5 Series/3400 series HDA... sound output works, but i can't seem to get the mic to work. just hear noise. any ideas?
[12:53] <danawar2> Suresab0
[12:53] <sacarlson> baazigar: I like the one that danawar2 gave you better nice real time graphics
[12:53] <danawar2> On moment
[12:53] <NEO1_> Hi everyone! Just have some problems when I try to boot an ubuntu 12.04 live CD on my DELL Inspiron 8200...  I got a black screen with this line: "sector error 0400"... Need Help! (pourquois en français?)
[12:54] <k1l> sab0: delete the old linux-image* packages of old kernels you dont need anymore
[12:54] <danawar2> sab0: www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/clean-up-ubuntu-grub-boot-menu-after-upgrades/
[12:54] <sacarlson> baazigar: but I guess iftop tells what app is doing it
[12:55] <DeltaHeavy> UndiFinD: Checked. I think Ubuntu is just more bloated then any Linux distro I was expecting. I'm going to install XFCE and if that still doesn't work I'm just going to install a distro that isn't bloated as all hell.
[12:55] <danawar2> NEO1_:  Have you retryed burning the disk?
[12:55] <baazigar> sacarlson : but i didnt get what danawar2 is saying : i didnt get any administrator option
[12:56] <sacarlson> NEO1_: I'm not sure the sector is bad on the cd or the harddrive, I would try boot from a usb,  they seem more stable to me
[12:56] <danawar2> Sorry baazigar it would give you the same output as fdisk
[12:56] <NEO1_> danawar2: Live CD is okay on another computer!
[12:56] <sacarlson> baazigar: I guess your not in admin group?
[12:56] <sab0> can any one please tell me how can i check grub version using terminal?
[12:56] <JasonDC> test
[12:56] <JasonDC> sorry; had to switch keyboards x
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> sab0  12.04 uses grub2
[12:57] <baazigar> dont know, i am the administrator of my pc
[12:57] <crazybrain> how to download kismet for Ubuntu?
[12:57] <sacarlson> baazigar: maybe you run 12.04, sounds like danawar2 was speaking of 10.04 method,  I also run 10.04
[12:57] <sab0> MonkeyDust, i am using 10.04 and always update, want to know by which command i can know the version of my grub?
[12:57] <danawar2> baazigar: what output does sudo fdisk -l report back nothing either?
[12:58] <baazigar> danawar2 : yes i run 12.04
[12:58] <fidel> crazybrain: how about using apt?
[12:58] <danawar2> sacarlson: true sorry
[12:58] <NEO1_> You think its a better idea to burn ubuntu on an usb key?
[12:58] <goodflood> tried to use a different port; no luck
[12:58] <zubin> how to remove the error no init found. try passing init=bootrag?
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> sab0  10.04 uses grub2, too
[12:59] <danawar2> NEO1_: Sure do you need a guide for it? :)
[12:59] <sab0> MonkeyDust, thank you, but is there any command to know the grub version?
[12:59] <JasonDC> i currently use grub 2.00 beta 4
[12:59] <baazigar> danawar2 : there are some lines of devices and partitions
[12:59] <satyanash> Hi, I have connected a WD external 500GB HDD to one of my usb ports, and I can't seem to find the port that has USB 2.0 support..I always seem to connect to a Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub instead of a Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[12:59] <satyanash> The speeds are extremely slow.
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> sab0  try apt-cache policy grub
[13:00] <crazybrain> fidel: how to do that?
[13:00] <fidel> crazybrain: kismet is part of your normal OS package repository
[13:00] <zubin> how to remove the error no init found. try passing init=bootrag?
[13:00] <UndiFineD> DeltaHeavy, xfce is great
[13:00] <NEO1_> Are you using irony? I dont speak english...  but I dont need help to set up ubuntu on an  usb! thanks! But I dont understand why I need to do it
[13:00] <fidel> crazybrain: how so you install or update software so far?
[13:00] <fidel> *so/do*
[13:01] <danawar2> baazigar: Paste bin it and stick the link in chat and well see what we can do!
[13:01] <UndiFineD> DeltaHeavy, so is lubuntu lxde
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> sab0  make that apt-cache policy grub2
[13:01] <DeltaHeavy> UndiFineD: I just hope this isn't an Ubuntu problem. It's become far more bloated then I remember it being back a bunc hof years
[13:01] <sab0> MonkeyDust, thank u
[13:01] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: what bloat are you talking about ?
[13:01] <danawar2> fidel: Sudo apt-get install #program#         sudo apt-get update          sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:02] <DeltaHeavy> iknoia: brb booing into XFCE, and I mean the general bloat Ubuntu comes with compared to any other distro
[13:02] <sacarlson> zubin: at grub boot time?  sounds like you MBR needs to be reinstalled
[13:02] <zubin> ya
[13:02] <fidel> danawar2: i wasnt asking for help :;)
[13:02] <zubin> how to reinstall it?
[13:02] <fidel> danawar2: i was trying to point him into how to hnadle that topic ;)
[13:03] <crazybrain> fidel: answer me here
[13:03] <fidel> crazybrain: you didnt answer to my question in the first place
[13:03] <sacarlson> zubin you can try my one liner: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda # change sda1 and sda to your choice
[13:03] <zubin> sacarlon: what is MBR?
[13:03] <danawar2> fidel: sorry hard to track lots of conovs :D
[13:03] <baazigar> danawar2 : i am not sure how would this help, my question was about checking internet speed http://pastebin.com/NTu7W3q8
[13:03] <JasonDC> MBR = Master Boot Record
[13:04] <sacarlson> zubin ya as JasonDC: says MBR = Master Boot Record
[13:04] <danawar2> baazigar: Sorry thought you were guy looking for his USB stick lol
[13:05] <baazigar> danawar2 : yeah i thought so
[13:05] <danawar2> baazigar: you dont want to use a tool like http://www.speedtest.net/ ?
[13:06] <baazigar> danawar2 : i want real time speed
[13:06] <zubin> sacarlson: i tried your commands but an error stoped the function.
[13:07] <DeltaHeavy> Back
[13:07] <sacarlson> baazigar: there two different types of speed,  one is lag to test try skype where you need more realtime responce,  then there is bandwidth try download a torrent
[13:07] <danawar2> baazigar: From your local machine if you see traffic your going to get a false indication unless your transferring alot of data
[13:08] <danawar2> baazigar: Such traffic would be like information going through your internal network not externaly eg your interner
[13:09] <baazigar> danawar2 : actually i am sharing wireless internet with someone , and if speed is less, i am not sure if it is because of my downloads or the other person is also using the net
[13:09] <sacarlson> zubin: you must change the values of /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda  and you must have a directory /mnt created before you run it
[13:09] <danawar2> ahh ok
[13:10] <sacarlson> zubin: that line is only an example it must be modified for your disk configureation
[13:10] <baazigar> So i need some tool so that i can ask him to stop his downloads
[13:11] <baazigar> and my internet provided is also at fault sometimes
[13:11] <danawar2> baazigar: i think programs like ntop will help you there as they will show you on a graph the network usage on each connection/device
[13:11] <baazigar> i will check ntop then
[13:11] <danawar2> baazigar: not sure about a tool that can stop him from downloading you could block the ports he is downloading on or somthing need to do a quick reset i will be right bcak!
[13:12] <pentarex> hey guys can anyone tell me how I can optimize my .htaccess drupal File i´ve asked this question into the drupal channel and they said this is a server side question... 10x
[13:12] <danawar2> Hey pentarex do you use GUI or CLI?
[13:13] <vampirnata> are all /dev links recreated at boot?
[13:13] <danawar2> pentarex: And how do you want to optimize it?
[13:13] <DeltaHeavy> pentarex: #apache might be a better channel for that question.
[13:13] <sacarlson> pentarex: I've never used .htaccess to optimize just to disable access to users without passwords,  I'm sure it can be used for more but what?
[13:14] <bananapie> I am trying to recover data from an encrypted home directory. I got the passphrase from the wrapped-passphrase file, the contents and dates of the files are ok. But all the filenames are really screwed up. If I activate the option "encrypted filenames" while mounting, I see "Could not find key with description...."
[13:14] <sacarlson> pentarex: I guess you can also use .htaccess for rewrite?
[13:14] <pentarex> danawar2: I am using only CLI.. I want to optimize it because my load average is like 1.70+
[13:14] <DeltaHeavy> pentarex: If you're looking for speed .htaccess is pretty slow compared to editing permissions in your Apache config file.
[13:14] <pentarex> sacarlson: yes exactly
[13:15] <pentarex> my load average is 1.70+ that is my problem :(
[13:16] <DeltaHeavy> Anyway my Ubuntu problem is fixed I guess. Installed XFCE and everything runs fine. Was just surprized Ubuntu is this resource intensive now even without Unity (GNOME 2 fallback mode)
[13:16] <Abhijit> hi. how can i get back the ubuntu logo beside my username on lightdm display manager after removing the whole unity in ubuntu 12.04? help please?
[13:16] <sacarlson> pentarex: 1.70+ what kb/sec?
[13:17] <pentarex> sacarlson: my load average: 1.97, 1.80, 1.45
[13:17] <sacarlson> pentarex: 1.96 hits per minit?
[13:17] <Abhijit> DeltaHeavy, yes it is. now i have installed cinnamon. and after that it crashed only once. before that with unity and gnome shell it crashed now and then.
[13:18] <pentarex> sacarlson: proccess waiting to be executed for minute yes :)
[13:18] <pentarex> 1.97
[13:18] <jbroome> That's also an IP in the US. :)
[13:18] <jbroome> and that's also the wrong window
[13:19] <DeltaHeavy> Abhijit: Yeah, it blows my mind how Connacical (sp) managed to make such a bulky distro. I've found Ubuntu always to be a little bulky but now this is like...Vista bulky.
[13:19] <sacarlson> pentarex: what do we use to look at these figures?
[13:19] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: please stop with the FUD
[13:19] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: FUD?
[13:19] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: false information
[13:19] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: Ubuntu isn't bulky compared to your average linux distro?
[13:19] <bananapie> nevermind, I found the info
[13:20] <bananapie> I am updating the wiki
[13:20] <pentarex> sacarlson: what?
[13:20] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: not really, it sits in the same sizes as the main ones
[13:20] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: I'm talking resource wise
[13:20] <ikonia> as am I
[13:20] <DeltaHeavy> That's FUD lol
[13:21] <DeltaHeavy> CentOS is FAR more light than Ubuntu. Same with pretty much any distro I can think of. I can give Unity some slack but even with GNOME 2 fallback mode it's pretty bulky in comparison to other distros.
[13:21] <sacarlson> pentarex: what tool must I run here to run a comparison of the data you say is bad being 1.97?
[13:21] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: centos is a different generation of Linux desktop, and not a valid comparision
[13:21] <pentarex> sacarlson: I am running only apache 2 and this is the output from ¨top¨
[13:22] <sacarlson> DeltaHeavy: when you make me a ubucento call me so I can try it out
[13:22] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: Fedora then? Different Linux same purpose. To me a linux is a linux is a linux to an extent.
[13:22] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: fedora 16 - 17 sure, it's in the same ball park
[13:22] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: linux is a kernel, and if you look at all the distros (centos included) the kernel is the ball park same, the reference you are making is to the desktop
[13:23] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: Yeah, I know. I just havn't run into a distro with as much bulk as Ubuntu. Ubuntu has a lot of advantages to beginners and advantages overall, I just didn't know how bulky it god.
[13:24] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: the desktop is pretty much the same in terms of size and resources as Gnome 3 on Fedora
[13:24] <sacarlson> pentarex: I don't even see my apache in the table of top and I don't know what colum I should be looking at to compare
[13:25] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: Perhaps, I've tried Fedora 16 on a really powerful machine for a month or so but couldn't get used to GNOME3 so I installed Ubuntu on my work machine as I can't get access to Windows here. Wouldn't surprize me if the new Fedoras follow suit. Never been a fan of Fedora anyway.
[13:25] <DeltaHeavy> Too unstable
[13:26] <pentarex> sacarlson: ok leave it :) when you execute top on the right corner of the terminal there is something called load average :)
[13:26] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: all the main distros desktops are in the same ball park now, maybe a little more on one app, a little less on the other, but ball park the same
[13:27] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: I wouldn't say so. Fedora is the only other popular distro I'd say that about.
[13:27] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: Most distros will run off of 1GB of RAM and a 3Ghz Pentium
[13:27] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: which other distro of the same generation uses smaller resources ?
[13:27] <K4k> I'm running the cinnomon desktop environment on 12.04 and the icons in the applications menu appear to be missing. Is anyone experiencing this and know of a fix?
[13:27] <Kartagis> does anybody feel like doing a bit sound card debugging for me? I have a SiS7012 and my mic is not recognised
[13:27] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: not modern distros they don't
[13:27] <ikonia> Kartagis: SIS - welcome to a world of pain
[13:27] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: CentOS, SuSe, Gentoo, Arch
[13:27] <danawar2> My ubuntu is now ruined #unity :(
[13:27] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: centos is NOT modern
[13:28] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: in terms of desktop
[13:28] <Kartagis> ikonia: argh
[13:28] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: It uses GNOME2, it's still a very valid distro.
[13:28] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: Gentoo/Arch running gnome 3 are just as heavy
[13:28] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: I didn't say it wasn't valid, but it's not a fair comparison with gnome 2 against gnome 3 as they are different generations
[13:28] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: I doubt it but lemme look it up
[13:29] <Abhijit> danawar2, try cinnamon
[13:29] <ikonia> Abhijit: ubuntu doesn't have a stable cinnamon build
[13:29] <ikonia> Abhijit: it's not wise to push that blindly onto people
[13:29] <Kartagis> ikonia: what should I do? replace it?
[13:29] <ikonia> Kartagis: honestly if it was me, I would
[13:29] <danawar2> I use gnome Abhijit: not as tidy as my gnome 2 :)
[13:30] <ikonia> Kartagis: I appreciate that may sound lazy
[13:30] <Kartagis> ikonia:
[13:30] <Kartagis> oops
[13:30] <Abhijit> ikonia, i am suggesting him cinnamon. he will go to their website and will decide for himself if he want or not. and btw its fairly stable
[13:30] <riegersn> what happened to znes package on 12.04?
[13:30] <Kartagis> ikonia: could you at least take a look at my alsa-info.sh output?
[13:30] <invasorzim0101> hp scanner problem, help anyone?
[13:30] <Abhijit> ikonia, its my duty to share the knowledge of latest upcoming projects so that he may select cinnmaon in future thought not now
[13:31] <ikonia> Abhijit: there is no official ubuntu packages,
[13:31] <Abhijit> ikonia, there is ppa
[13:31] <ikonia> Abhijit: that PPA is not a supported product though
[13:31] <ikonia> Kartagis: if you want, sure
[13:31] <Abhijit> ikonia, thats the users's choice and responsibility to decide if he wnat that product or not
[13:31] <ikonia> Abhijit: not if you're not giving him the full information
[13:31] <Abhijit> ikonia, ok
[13:31] <Kartagis> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=59160f78ecc01b20ae220e3c24e8003308d0739a
[13:31] <ikonia> Abhijit: nothing wrong with suggesting cinammon, but please don't recommend it blindly
[13:32] <ikonia> Kartagis: that suggests the sound card is an intel
[13:32] <Abhijit> danawar2, try cinnamon. it do not have an official ubuntu pagkage and its not included in official ubuntu repo yet. but cinnamon is great. try once
[13:32] <Kartagis> ikonia: lspci says sis
[13:32] <Kartagis> weird
[13:32] <ikonia> Kartagis: yes, I see that too
[13:32] <ikonia> Kartagis: it looks like it's loading the intel modules,
[13:32] <danawar2> Abhijit: Does it support compiz cube? :D
[13:32] <ikonia> danawar2: don't "try" cinnamon, research it
[13:33] <K4k> Abhijit: fwiw I'm running into issues with cinnamon, nothing show stopping though.
[13:33] <Kartagis> 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
[13:33] <ikonia> danawar2: once you've installed it from a PPA it may do serious issues to your system
[13:33] <Abhijit> danawar2, no idea. but it has inbuilt attractive animations
[13:33] <ikonia> Kartagis: yes, I see that, I wonder if you are having the issues because it's loading the intel modules, rather than the SIS
[13:33] <Abhijit> danawar2, i am currently talking from cinnamon. no there DE. removed unity completely. and i am seeing no issues yet.
[13:34] <Abhijit> K4k, right
[13:34] <Kartagis> ikonia: hmm, no issues on output tho
[13:34] <Kartagis> ikonia: where to check that?
[13:34] <ikonia> Kartagis: very interesting, that maybe something that's worth exploring,
[13:34] <sacarlson> pentarex: only thing I found that might make .htaccess perform better is by disableing it AllowOverride None     http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/htaccess.html
[13:34] <ikonia> Kartagis: see if the intel modules have any limitations against the sis card
[13:34] <pentarex> sacarlson: thank you I will try it :)
[13:35] <Kartagis> I'd better just replace the sound card
[13:35] <Zally666> They do prolly
[13:35] <Xanny> Hi there, how to launch Privacy app using Terminal?
[13:35] <Zally666> Why else reprogram a card?
[13:35] <ikonia> Kartagis: from experience the SIS chips just cause problems, that doesn't mean yours wont' work, but I've never had an easy time setting one up
[13:35] <blackshirt> what you mean with privacy app?
[13:36] <norbert79> blackshirt: I guess the one, where you remove the cookies/tracks/logs/etc
[13:36] <norbert79> blackshirt: You know, the fancy new python app for doing what normally is being done manually
[13:37] <Xanny> norbert79: yes :P
[13:38] <Xanny> norbert79: but it doesn't work anymore, it doesn't del my data no more
[13:38] <Kartagis> ikonia: blacklist snd_intel8x0m <--- this maybe?
[13:38] <norbert79> Xanny: I am still under Lucid, so I don't think I could be a great help for you :)
[13:38] <betinho> anyone can help me to configure fstab to alllow a non superuser to mount a USB?
[13:39] <Xanny> norbert79: lol well :D
[13:39] <norbert79> betinho: Normally that should come out of box, but you are looking forward probably to the setting "users" in the settings column
[13:39] <blackshirt> was sis chipsets cause many trouble with ubuntu?
[13:39] <ikonia> Kartagis: try it, not sure that will get you far, but worth a try
[13:41] <Xanny> bye all :) good evening :)
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> betinho  fstab makes a device mount at startup
[13:41] <betinho> norbert79, i've inserted the line to the /etc/fstab: /dev/sdb1 /media/pendrive /dev/sdb1 /media/pendrive auto rw,noauto,user 0 0 but did not work
[13:42] <norbert79> betinho: Fstab lists the mounts you can mount with the mount /dev/sdb1... It will work. The question is more, that why does automount not work? It should work out-of-the-box
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> betinho  /dev/sdb1 /media/pendrive /dev/sdb1 only once in that line
[13:43] <norbert79> Ah, right, I thought that's a copy-paste typ
[13:43] <norbert79> o
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> betinho  correction  /dev/sdb1 /media/pendrive only once in that line
[13:43] <betinho> MonkeyDust, first /dev/sdb1 in error copy-paste :)
[13:44] <K4k> exit
[13:44] <norbert79> use /
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> betinho  type cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit and paste the url here, so we can see
[13:45] <K4k> norbert79: I know, had the wrong term focused ;-)
[13:45] <norbert79> :)
[13:48] <jatt> do you know a tool to remove all dead links in a directory?
[13:49] <betinho> MonkeyDust, cat /etc/fstab => http://pastebin.com/iNYnkvph
[13:49] <jatt> or to list all dead links in a directory?
[13:49] <betinho> also i've disable the automount of the USB in order to mount manually
[13:52] <marco> why doesn't ubuntu uses pdiffs in apt? Wouldn't it solve this problem : http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php?item.697.4 ?
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> betinho  first on my mind: replace auto with ext4
[13:55] <norbert79> marco: Not even Debian uses it everywhere either, besides it's a good thought, but not so easy to solve. And yes, that's a huge task to resolve. But I doubt this is a question for support, I would suggest #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:56] <norbert79> marco: One last thought: You don't update your Windows with dial-up either, especially not new Service Packs
[13:57] <Pici> marco: deb deltas have been discussed at a few UDSes, you may want to start here at see what blockers there have been: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-debdelta
[13:58] <sergeantcupcake> My wimpy machine can hardly run ubuntu. Is there a way to make it work on less system resources? I would prefer to continue using ubuntu.
[13:58] <norbert79> sergeantcupcake: Try using Xubuntu as alternative
[13:58] <norbert79> sergeantcupcake: that is Ubuntu + XFCE
[13:59] <Kartagis> ikonia: thanks for the attempt to help btw
[13:59] <norbert79> Instead of Gnome 3 and KDE 4
[13:59] <fidel> sergeantcupcake: use an desktop-envirmnment which isnt that hungry
[13:59] <sergeantcupcake> norbert79: ok.thanks!
[13:59] <sergeantcupcake> fidel: such as..?
[13:59] <fidel> sergeantcupcake: well norbert was pointing in the same direction - but he is mentioning other distris - which differ basically in other default packages & DE's
[14:00] <fidel> so i am suggesting the same - basically ...just the question if you want to reinstall or do it manually
[14:00] <norbert79> fidel: Well, Xubuntu is still following mainstream Ubuntu, so it's not that of a different distribution
[14:00] <sergeantcupcake> fidel: I have very little tech skills, so which route would be easier?
[14:00] <fidel> norbert79: nor is it any different then using some other packages right?
[14:01] <norbert79> fidel: Didn't sink in that deep, but I didn't see any difference, except it uses Xfce as base WM
[14:01] <fidel> norbert79: personaly i got the impression in this channel that those several ubuntu-based distris - using some other DE cause more confusiopn then additional value to starters
[14:01] <norbert79> fidel: And why dom I think constantly the opposite?
[14:01] <norbert79> do
[14:01] <fidel> norbert79: so do you we nned A-Zbuntu now? ;)
[14:02] <fidel> anyway -getting offtopic
[14:02] <fidel> sergeantcupcake: in case you are using your setup already for a longer time - try to change it manually
[14:02] <sergeantcupcake> fidel: thanks!
[14:02] <fidel> in case it is a completly new install- without additional work done by yourself - consider installing whatever OTHER DISTRI norbert might have mentioned
[14:03] <fidel> sergeantcupcake: the point is - lubuntu - is not really a different distribution compared to ubuntu. so why reinstalling in the first place?
[14:04] <fidel> but ask 2 ppl and you'll get 3 answers
[14:04] <sergeantcupcake> fidel: I was not wanting to reinstall anything
[14:04] <Guest54409> hoping someone can help.. I think my java jline is broken, in a java console am unable to scroll through previous commands (like bash history)
[14:04] <roasted> Question - is there any way to break open a DMG by chance on Ubuntu?
[14:04] <Toph2> i went to xfce by just downloading the desktop,, now i have an option of desktops at login
[14:04] <fidel> sergeantcupcake: thats exactly what i was trying to point out ;)
[14:05] <fidel> roasted: apple dmgs are basically archives folders - at least some kind of
[14:05] <fidel> tested to move into it in cli?
[14:05] <agc93> roasted: have you tried opening it in File Roller (Archive Manager)
[14:06] <sergeantcupcake> fidel: ahhh... Im sorry, Im a little out of my depth here :) thanks for the help and God bless anyway
[14:06] <roasted> agc93: yuep, no go
[14:06] <PjotrOrial> So when I was using the beta version and a program crashed, i was redirected into my webbrowser to describe the bug. Now that precise is stable and I get bugs where are those bugs redirected to? Can I do anything else than just clicking 'yes submit this bug please' ?
[14:06] <roasted> fidel: I understand. I'm just trying to do some work on a custom DMG here at work. My MBP died so I'm kind of stuck.
[14:06] <morsnowski> where do I find the config that keeps track of the possible resolutions, I have a a max resolution of 1620*1080 but qoul like a 1920*1080
[14:07] <agc93> roasted: you can try using dmg2img from the repos to convert the DMG into a mountable IMG file?
[14:08] <agc93> roasted: even if you do that, you might need to load hfsplus support with sudo modprobe hfsplus
[14:09] <roasted> agc93: I wonder if thats a CLI tool...
[14:09] <agc93> roasted: it is.
[14:09] <b0ot> I have a working corporate email account on my android phone and I'm trying to add that account to Evolution in Ubuntu, what type of account do I need/are there any tutorials on how to go from Android Corporate to Ubuntu Evolution?
[14:09] <agc93> roasted: check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/38112/how-can-i-open-a-dmg
[14:09] <agc93> b0ot: that would depend on what kind of account it is. Is it an MS Exchange email?
[14:10] <Guest54409> hoping someone can help.. I think my java jline is broken, in a java console am unable to scroll through previous commands (like bash history)
[14:10] <b0ot> agc93, I'm not sure... whatever the default is for Android Corporate exchange
[14:10] <b0ot> not exchange
[14:10] <b0ot> corporate sync
[14:10] <bluefrog> I have a folder with numerous files. would like to consolidate files in new directories containing 100 files. an idea? (command line)
[14:11] <fleshworm> yo aqui quien aya sud0 prendete algo
[14:11] <fleshworm> xP
[14:11] <agc93> b0ot: sorry never heard of a corporate sync account. not sure.
[14:11] <roasted> agc93: thanks. Seems ot be erroring out on me, but we'll see how it goes. this would be solved if I could flippin virtualize OSX... but eh, I'll suffer. :P
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> what's the difference between a backup and a copy? -- using grsync and it has this option 'make backup'
[14:13] <Pici> !es | fleshworm
[14:14] <chaot> bye
[14:16] <paanii> hi
[14:17] <paanii> is there a way to expand my virtual box space?
[14:18] <geirha> paanii: #vbox is probably better equipped to answer that
[14:18] <PjotrOrial> paanii: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-easily-resize-virtualbox-40-hard.html would be googles first hit
[14:19] <PjotrOrial> paanii: so you have ubuntu as Host or client in the vm... but yeah as geirha said #vbox is definitly better ;)
[14:19] <blz> Hello, I'm having a bit of trouble with virtualenv on ubuntu 12.04.  I installed the python-virtualenv package in the main repo, but when I try to create a virtualenv with the --no-site-packages flag, all my globally installed packages are included.   I tried doing a pip install virtualenvwrapper in my default shell, but the problem persists.  Can someone point me in the right direction?
[14:31] <ubu_> german?
[14:31] <agc93> !de
[14:31] <ubu_> thx
[14:31] <akshaydixi> when are the ubuntu app dev workshops going to start?
[14:32] <shafire> hi, which package manager do you use in ubuntu? apt-get or aptitude?
[14:32] <karol_beech_it> apt-get
[14:32] <Pici> !aptitude
[14:34] <bipul> hy i wanrt's to know about kernel bridgning
[14:34] <morsnowski> anybody able to tell me how to add a new cvt modus of 1920*1080
[14:36] <phimic> hi all i use ubuntu 12.04 and try to setup the realtime kernel as default kernel in grub
[14:36] <phimic> i setup GRUB_DEFAULT but this seems not wo work
[14:36] <Gurpartap> ubuntu just put out a grub update. so when I do a upgrade, it "prompts" me for selecting whether I want to keep existing grub or overwrite it
[14:36] <Gurpartap> so, since i use this on my ec2 servers
[14:37] <sevkme> how to run "screen bash top" and keep screen running when top exit ?
[14:37] <Gurpartap> i'm scared about how my scripts would handle it
[14:37] <Gurpartap> :/
[14:37] <bmoez> QUESTION: what runs better on ubuntu? nVidia 8400GS or nVidia GTX260
[14:37] <vmachine> what should be the normal/defualt  permissions set on /etc/sudoers
[14:38] <lnwlf2121> 440
[14:38] <phimic> nobody?
[14:38] <lloir> how do i search google for answers to ubuntu questions?
[14:38] <lnwlf2121> google.com/ubuntu
[14:38] <Abhijit> bmoez, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[14:38] <mercutio22> I've got a partial upgrade here. Whats the latest kernel version in precise pangolin?
[14:40] <redlight> I have dual-boot and 3 partitions(1st partition: windows, 2nd: nothing, just any files saved to this partition, 3rd: ubuntu) -- win 7 as main and ubuntu 10.10 -- when win 7 got boot error, i just load ubuntu and works fine.. then a few days past... now I can't access the 2nd partition.. it says error on mounting :( I have important files on the 2nd partition, how can I fix it?
[14:40] <Pici> mercutio22: 3.2.0.25.27, why are you doing a partial upgrade?
[14:45] <sevkme> how to run "screen bash -c top" , keep screen running when top exit ?
[14:46] <mercutio22> Pici: I am not. I am tring to fix a pc which had a partial upgrade
[14:47] <Pici> mercutio22: ah, okay, good.
[14:48] <roasted> Question - Using Ubuntu One or Dropbox as a model, is there a way I can utilize my home file server to act as my own personal cloud (which is running Ubuntu)? Is there some sort of software to handle my account and log in and be secure and whatnot?
[14:48] <Fuchs> roasted: not with dropbox as far as I am informed, but there is owncloud as an example
[14:49] <roasted> Fuchs: not sure I understand what you mean about "not with dropbox". ????
[14:49] <Fuchs> ah, sorry, I misread the question :)
[14:49] <roasted> Fuchs: hm this owncloud looks interesting.
[14:49] <f00fster> heyy guys simple question is the /var/dpkg/lock file always present in ubuntu ?
[14:50] <roasted> Fuchs: it'll allow me to have a "dropbox-like" experience, but with my data going to my own server?
[14:50] <f00fster> trying ti add checks but cant seem to since the file seems to be present in all my boxes
[14:50] <Fuchs> roasted: exactly
[14:50] <roasted> Fuchs: that's beautiful.
[14:50] <roasted> Fuchs: thanks for the idea!
[14:50] <Fuchs> roasted: you're welcome
[14:51] <adamkhan> hi all
[14:51] <Fuchs> roasted: they have a wiki on how to get several software working with it, as it initially came from KDE, the integration there might be a slight bit better, but there should be no big issue getting it to work with $anything_else, since it supports open standards
[14:51] <adamkhan> ive gota prob
[14:51] <adamkhan> its graphical
[14:51] <nicekiwi> im trying to set the permission on a .sh file, but the changes dont take effect weather i do them from consolr of the file manager. help?
[14:52] <adamkhan> i cant see the extensions i install on the top of the gnome 3 bar the top
[14:52] <Fuchs> nicekiwi: what kind of changes, and is the file system the file is one writeable and allowing these kind of changes?
[14:52] <roasted> Fuchs: how would it be KDE based? Maybe I'm wrong but I was assuming it was a web interface that dumps the files into a folder in nautilus. What's KDE driven about that?
[14:52] <Fuchs> nicekiwi: e.g. some file systems are noexec, so +x wouldn't work
[14:52] <Fuchs> roasted: the guys developing it coming from KDE land, and integration in the applications there (e.g. filemanager). But yes, it does have a web frontend
[14:52] <nicekiwi> Fuchs: its a file in my user dir i just downloaded with git. I want to all myself to execute the file.
[14:52] <ikonia> /window 14
[14:53] <ikonia> oops
[14:53] <nicekiwi> Fuchs: ive been trying with chmod 764
[14:53] <adamkhan> is gnome 3 buggy for everyone on ubuntu?
[14:53] <Fuchs> nicekiwi: do you get any error messages?
[14:53] <nicekiwi> Fuchs: no
[14:54] <Fuchs> nicekiwi: and ls -l on the file gives you what?
[14:55] <adamkhan> is gnome 3 on ubuntu buggy for everyone? or can it be fixed?
[14:55] <nicekiwi> Fuchs: -rw------- 1 ezra ezra
[14:55] <adamkhan> is gnome 3 on ubuntu buggy for everyone? or can it be fixed?
[14:55] <Fuchs> nicekiwi: sure you are applying the changes on the right file?
[14:56] <adamkhan> is gnome 3 on ubuntu buggy for everyone? or can it be fixed?
[14:56] <GunArm> since gnome classic doesn't seem to work with nvidia twinview (it duplicates all the taskbar items and you can't manually remove them like you could on gnome 2) does anyone have a suggestion for a desktop manager that is actually usable (obviuosly exclusing unity and gnome 3)?  xfce? mate? i have heard those wont be compatible with new programs, is that true?
[14:56] <nicekiwi> theres only onle file with that filename, so yup
[14:56] <Pecker> adamkhan: your problem is?
[14:56] <morsnowski> does anyone know how to create a custom display resolution setting
[14:56] <roasted> Fuchs: only thing I'm having trouble finding is any sort of android support... do you know of anything?
[14:57] <adamkhan> i cant see any of the icons/extensions i add to the top panel
[14:57] <Fuchs> roasted: yes, there is an experimental android app for it
[14:57] <GunArm> has anyone come up with a usable solution to having a practical and usable gui in modern ubuntu?  I'm about to have to go back to windows after all these years
[14:57] <nicekiwi> Fuchs: when i try to execue the sh file in console it says permission denied
[14:57] <Fuchs> roasted: it is on the wiki, and under development
[14:57] <adamkhan> i use advance tweak settings for them
[14:57] <roasted> Fuchs: ah I see it, it wasnt under the google market. gotcha.
[14:57] <Fuchs> nicekiwi: can I see the whole command you try to execute to change the permissions?
[14:58] <christoffer> Any irc channel for the ubuntu app showdown?
[14:58] <nicekiwi> Fuchs: http://pastebin.com/tdgHusra
[14:58] <f00fster> anyone know if the dpkg lock file is always present in ubuntu ? AKA can someone do ls /var/lib/dpkg/ and tell me if lock file is present?
[14:59] <antlarr> hi
[14:59] <Fuchs> nicekiwi: first of all, only sudo when needed. Then: ./build_all.sh  << this with the ./ won't work
[14:59] <antlarr> anybody knows why the oprofile package was removed from 12.04 ?
[14:59] <nicekiwi> :(
[15:00] <Fuchs> nicekiwi: chmod u+rwx filename    would be correct
[15:00] <Fuchs> nicekiwi: as long as you are the owner, which, from the output above, I assume you are
[15:00] <Pici> f00fster: -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Jun 18 10:12 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[15:01] <Pici> f00fster: dpkg is not running currently.
[15:01] <nicekiwi> Fuchs: yeah.. well it dosnt work. I cant change the permissions and i cant run the sh file :(
[15:02] <nicekiwi> antlarr: the lock file is there for me
[15:02] <Fuchs> nicekiwi: do you get any errors when doing  just a  chmod u+rwx build_all.sh?
[15:02] <f00fster> Pici: so it is always present, but get populated when dpkg is running ?
[15:02] <Fuchs> (without the ? of course)
[15:02] <nicekiwi> Fuchs: no
[15:02] <f00fster> Pici: What gives?
[15:02] <Fuchs> nicekiwi: and ls -l says what currently?
[15:02] <nicekiwi> Fuchs: same as before
[15:02] <Fuchs> nicekiwi: if still not the right permissions: sure it's not on a filesystem which is mounted noexec?
[15:02] <antlarr> nicekiwi: the lock file ?
[15:03] <nicekiwi> antlarr: yup
[15:05] <nicekiwi> Fuchs: hmm well that im not sure, but it wasnt actusally in my user dir. it was on a seperate disk, moving it to the home dir let me chnage it
[15:07] <lauratika> how can i find which ipaddress applications as ftp, or skype are conecting as?
[15:07] <nkts> hi, when I click f10 on gnome-terminal, I get drop down menu - is this a bug of feature? How to disable that?
[15:08] <nkts> enable the menu shortcut key is disabled..
[15:09] <carroarmato0> nkts: hmm seems like a bug
[15:09] <carroarmato0> nkts: works fine here
[15:09] <oCean> lauratika: if you know the port the program is using, you can run  sudo netstat -anp |grep <portnr>
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> lauratika  try lsof -i
[15:09] <oCean> lauratika: example, ssh=22, run sudo netstat -anp |grep 22
[15:09] <nkts> carroarmato0: any ideas how to fix that?
[15:10] <carroarmato0> nkts: nope, sorry
[15:10] <carroarmato0> nkts: running 12.04 ?
[15:11] <nkts> carroarmato0: yes
[15:12] <carroarmato0> nkts: ow hang on
[15:12] <lauratika> so lets say if im using a vpn, and i use skype or chat would this be show as my vpn address?
[15:13] <carroarmato0> nkts: I seem to be having the same issue as you :/
[15:13] <carroarmato0> nkts: it used to work
[15:15] <roasted> Question - I had previously tinkered with different apache and nginx setups, but I think I goofed as I can't get apache running. When I reinstall apache (even with doing a remove --purge prior) when I reinstall it, it won't generate anything in /var/www like it does on a fresh install. How can I get it completely cleansed so I can apt-get install owncloud (which uses apache) to finisht he installation?
[15:15] <carroarmato0> nkts: the window that appears is the equivalent op a right-mouse click, right?
[15:15] <nkts> carroarmato0: yes
[15:16] <carroarmato0> nkts: that's not supposed to happen indeed
[15:16] <carroarmato0> nkts: the F10 enabled should only show the application Menu
[15:17] <carroarmato0> nkts: probably should report this as a bug
[15:17] <kisha> #TC support
[15:19] <oCean> roasted: have you checked dpkg -l | grep apache
[15:19] <roasted> oCean: what is it from that output should I be seeing?
[15:20] <oCean> roasted: something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/1047486/
[15:20] <roasted> oCean: yeah, I see that.
[15:21] <oCean> roasted: ok, so in the first column it lists the installation "state" (for example, RC, which is removed but configfiles remain)
[15:22] <redlight>  I have dual-boot and 3 partitions(1st partition: windows, 2nd: nothing, just any files saved to this partition, 3rd: ubuntu) -- win 7 as main and ubuntu 10.10 -- when win 7 got boot error, i just load ubuntu and works fine.. then a few days past... now I can't access the 2nd partition.. it says error on mounting :( I have important files on the 2nd partition, how can I fix it?
[15:23] <roasted> oCean: heres mine - http://pastebin.com/LbQicQkw
[15:24] <oCean> roasted: well, from that output we have to assume everything is completely installed. What do you think is missing?
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> redlight  type sudo fdisk -l to know the partition's dev-name -- then type sudo mount /dev/sd... /media
[15:24] <roasted> oCean: well, there's typically files in /var/www, and if you go to localhost you get an output from apache saying IT WORKS! I have none of that.
[15:24] <roasted> oCean: I'm getting a 500internal server error relating to nginx... whcih is something I was testing prior to apache.
[15:24] <shookees> what's the ubuntu showdown channel?
[15:25] <oCean> roasted: that is just one index.html file, but indeed - after a fresh install it should be there
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> showdown channel?
[15:25] <Guest81463> yeah, the app showdown channel
[15:25] <oCean> roasted: may be best to remove everything from both nginx and apache
[15:25] <roasted> oCean: well, that brings in the new question, as I'm not running just apache but I'm running owncloud, which is accessed by localhost/owncloud. It's the one getting the 500 error.
[15:25] <roasted> oCean: remove everything how, remove --purge motion remove --purge nginx?
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> !find showdown | Guest81463
[15:27] <Anomie211> I have a folder full of .pdf files, can I batch convert these into .png/.jpg easily?
[15:28] <oCean> roasted: hmm, not sure why you have "motion" there, probably unrelated? Anyway run  sudo apt-get purge nginx first  then   sudo apt-get purge apache2-common (which should also remove few dependencies)
[15:29] <roasted> oCean: motion is video surveillance software I use. I had tested it on my laptop here before I put it on my server @ home. It's unrelated.
[15:29] <redlight> MonkeyDust, I did what you said and it returned an error: http://pastebin.com/fXXRqbFd
[15:29] <blastermaster> hi
[15:30] <kimphill> Anomie211, man pdfimages
[15:30] <oCean> roasted: sudo apt-get purge nginx-common, then sudo apt-get autoremove to get rid of all nginx related packages
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> Anomie211  renaming is not the same as converting, but maybe this link helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=924054
[15:32] <Anomie211> kimphill: PDF images seems to be for extracting images from PDFs?
[15:32] <Anomie211> I want to convert into an image
[15:32] <Toasty> What's the name of the room for the Python workshop?
[15:32] <Toasty> It was 'ubuntu-?????'
[15:32] <Toasty> don't remember what came after the dash
[15:33] <jgcampbell300> does anyone know of a chat room for libreoffice ?
[15:33] <kimphill> pdftoppm?
[15:33] <oCean> !alis | jgcampbell300
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> redlight  did you read/follow the instructions in the error message?
[15:35] <redlight> MonkeyDust, I tried but I can't get into Win 7.. it hangs when I try to load
[15:35] <mongrelion> Hello, guys. I'm in a very tough situation here and would deeply appreciate any help given :S
[15:36] <TimR> Anomie211: imagemagick might do the trick
[15:37] <redlight> MonkeyDust, that's why Im using ubuntu. But, I cant access the files in the partition
[15:37] <mongrelion> I was trying to figure out why the server was not allowing ssh authentication using public keys. It seems like it is a permissions issue with the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file. Anyways, I set the option PasswordAuthentication no option in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file, and now, I'm not able to connect to the server. I would really appreciate if someone could help me out with this. Any idea? :/
[15:37] <mongrelion> I don't have physical access to the server.
[15:37] <greywalk> hi, i have 3 gb of ram and my system sees 2.5 gb only. why is that?
[15:38] <cquick97> What is the room for the appshowdown?
[15:38] <DJones> greywalk: Do you have a graphics card that shares main memory?
[15:38] <greywalk> DJones: not sure, but i'll check. this explains the issue
[15:39] <zvacet> I have shutdown problem with 12.04  if I try to shutdown all I see is ubuntu logo and I have to restart comp to shut it down
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> redlight  try booting from a live cd or usb, see if, at least, you have access from there
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> if*
[15:40] <DJones> !ram | greywalk This may help explain it as well
[15:40] <redlight> MonkeyDust, ok.
[15:41] <TimR> Anomie211: something along the lines of "for file in *.pdf; do convert "$file" $(echo "$file"|sed 's/.pdf/.png'); done"
[15:42] <greywalk> DJones: thanks
[15:42] <mobius420> greetings #ubuntu
[15:43] <mobius420> I am trying to identify and stop a webserver daemon which starts up automatically when my system boots
[15:43] <mobius420> does anyone know of a webserver daemon which comes bundled with ubuntu?
[15:43] <mobius420> I am trying to use the webserver of my choice which happens to be xampp for linux
[15:44] <mobius420> but of course i cannot run it because there is already a webserver daemon running :?
[15:44] <oCean> !xampp | mobius420
[15:44] <theadmin> mobius420: Ubuntu does *not* come with a webserver...
[15:44] <mobius420> *yay*
[15:44] <theadmin> mobius420: Unless you mean the server edition.
[15:44] <mobius420> well thanks a *lot*
[15:44] <mobius420> lulz
[15:44] <Relondo> Is there a fix for the Unity launcher bar not hiding properly  bug?
[15:45] <theadmin> mobius420: Do you have TeamViewer? It binds to port 80 sometimes. Disable that in the settings if so.
[15:45] <ashima> Hi..I am trying to get wifi on my hp g62 and have the driver ralink 5490 for it...can anybody help me with that...thanks in advance :)
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> Relondo  try MyUnity
[15:45] <Relondo> MonkeyDust: Is it an application?
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> Relondo  yes
[15:45] <Belserusk> Hi. How can I make gnome-search-tool open a folder with pcmanfm when I select 'Open Folder' on right click -- it currently tries to open everything with my text editor.
[15:46] <Relondo> MonkeyDust: Alright, thanks. I'm still annoyed that the problem hasn't been fixed yet, but I'll look into it.
[15:47] <danawar2> Have install ubuntu 11.10
[15:48] <danawar2> and everything is now broken more lol
[15:49] <guest2> Hello. I learned in here once before of a utility used to redirect output to a file. Does anyone know what utility that was?
[15:50] <oCean> MonkeyDust: when advising PPA's, can you please add that it is 3rd party, unsupported repository? (even if you are convinced it is stable, and if you are not convinced that way, please don't recommend it at all)
[15:50] <TKing> hi
[15:50] <danawar2> test
[15:51] <dmsuperman> My interface KEEPS locking up. I'll move my mouse around and everything runs smooth and great
[15:51] <dmsuperman> except every once in a while, everything simply freezes for about a second or two
[15:51] <theadmin> guest2: tee?
[15:51] <dmsuperman> Including the house
[15:51] <dmsuperman> mouse*
[15:51] <guest2> Yeah, that's it!
[15:51] <guest2> Thanks
[15:52] <nkts> carroarmato0: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/+bug/878492
[15:52] <theshadow> This is going to sound like a newb question, is there a way to let an application bind to port 80 without running as root?
[15:52] <guest2> theshadow: Not as far as I'm aware.
[15:52] <OerHeks> dmsuperman, those little freezes can occure tru zeitgeist.
[15:52] <guest2> But I might be a newb too!
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> oCean  myunity is in the repos, no ppa needed
[15:53] <TKing> hello, guys  i am having problems loading ubuntu ater upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, i rebooted the computer and it shows lines like a tv not connected to any channel the shaking lines wudn't allow for anything
[15:53] <oCean> MonkeyDust: apologies, I thought myunity was only available through PPA, I see it's in the ubuntu repositories too
[15:53] <dmsuperman> OerHeks: they can...what?
[15:53] <oCean> MonkeyDust: yeah, I typo'd when searching the repos
[15:53] <OerHeks> dmsuperman, zeitgeist is a log of all actions  you do, this util can generate some waiting time
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> oCean  FYI I *never* advice PPAs
[15:54] <oCean> MonkeyDust: okay, we're on the same page there :)
[15:54] <theadmin> theshadow: No. But you can add a permission to that app for sudoers like this: ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/your_app some_parameters
[15:54] <dmsuperman> OerHeks: It tends to happen even when I'm not doing anything whatsoever
[15:54] <TKing> hello, guys  i am having problems loading ubuntu ater upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, i rebooted the computer and it shows lines like a tv not connected to any channel the shaking lines wudn't allow for anything
[15:54] <dmsuperman> But how would I disable it?
[15:54] <dmsuperman> Ah, under Privacy I'm guessing
[15:54] <dmsuperman> just disabled it, I'll see if that does it
[15:54] <dmsuperman> What does it benefit me to log my actions?
[15:55] <JasonDC> crap... i was trying to install Proxmox VE to a partition and it over wrote the whole harddrive
[15:55] <OerHeks> dmsuperman, it helps dash finding your files and programs. disable it if you don't want it  > http://askubuntu.com/questions/45548/disabling-zeitgeist
[15:56] <TKing> i installed ubuntu on dualboot with windows 7 but now i can't load ubuntu after upgrading to ubuntu 10.04
[15:57] <dmsuperman> Thanks OerHeks :)
[15:58] <TKing> pls any channel where i can learn how to restore my ubuntu back to previous?
[15:58] <theadmin> TKing: If you mean downgrade, that's unsupported.
[15:59] <TKing> theadmin the problem am having seems unexplainable
[15:59] <Belserusk> Hi. How can I make gnome-search-tool open a folder with pcmanfm when I select 'Open Folder' on right click -- it currently tries to open everything with my text editor.
[15:59] <aroman> anyone running ubuntu/linux on the new macbook air/pros?
[15:59] <theadmin> !mac | aroman
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> TKing  10.04 is the oldest version that's not yet EOL
[15:59] <Belserusk> Please can someone answer my Q.
[15:59] <aroman> theadmin: not was I was looking for, but thanks.
[15:59] <dmsuperman> theadmin: Don't think that's what he asked
[15:59] <dmsuperman> aroman: Are you? I'm interested in doing the same
[16:00] <marowanna> nice
[16:00] <marowanna> spam originating from this channel lately
[16:00] <marowanna> lots of it
[16:00] <BlazemoreWork> Hello
[16:00] <TKing> MonkeyDust i have windows installed and installed ubuntu 10.10 bcos i had the bootable cd with d up of upgrading
[16:00] <marowanna> so far 10 people in 2 days all originating from this channel have been spamming me, who knew ubuntu was where spammers come =P
[16:00] <aroman> dmsuperman: I'm gonna buy one or the other tonight, and I'll be using ubuntu as the primary OS on them. Debating about getting the MBA or the MBP, and that kind of depends on the linux support.
[16:00] <theadmin> marowanna: What what? Go to #ubuntu-ops and report those, this is no good
[16:00] <marowanna> guys i suggest you head to efnet if you need help i've never receieved help from this channel
[16:01] <BlazemoreWork> Does anyone know how I can list all the users who are authorised to ssh in as a local user, without having to parse authorized_users myself?
[16:01] <dmsuperman> aroman: Gotchya. From what I read, the support for 12.04 on the latest mbp wasn't superbly wonderful
[16:01] <aroman> it looks like the previous version of the MBA had exceptional support for linux
[16:01] <marowanna> not that efnet will be much mkore helpful
[16:01] <dmsuperman> but I can't imagine the air will be any better or worse
[16:01] <marowanna> oh wait im on freenode
[16:01] <marowanna> DERP
[16:01] <marowanna> sorry
[16:01] <aroman> dmsuperman: got a link to that?
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> TKing  10.10 is no longer valid or suported
[16:01] <TKing> MonkeyDust when i upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 i rebooted and its shows lines
[16:01] <dmsuperman> I don't unfortunately. I think it was a forum post
[16:01] <TKing> MonkeyDust, I know but i am upgrading gradually
[16:01] <dmsuperman> Let me see if I can dig it up
[16:01] <TKing> bcos i don't the bootable
[16:02] <aroman> dmsuperman: thanks
[16:02] <dmsuperman> aroman: If you're talking about retina, I know for sure that won't work quite wonderfully yet
[16:02] <aroman> def. not
[16:02] <dmsuperman> Since OS X is the only OS that includes the pixel doubling afaik
[16:02] <aroman> the 13'' models
[16:02] <TKing> MonkeyDust: does that mean I can't upgrade after a fresh installion?
[16:02] <dmsuperman> k
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> TKing  if you're fresh installing, why not install 12.04 ?
[16:03] <dmsuperman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-1/Natty aroman this looks promising/informative
[16:03] <BlazemoreWork> What's the point of a firewall if upnp allows arbitrary ports to be opened by any old application?
[16:03] <TKing> MonkeyDust no bootable cd with me
[16:03] <dmsuperman> BlazemoreWork: The idea is that the upnp port is only used by the application when the application needs it
[16:03] <TKing> or flash drive
[16:04] <aroman> dmsuperman: that and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir4-2, yep
[16:04] <dmsuperman> and when it's not in use, it's closed. And all non-punched ports would remain closed
[16:04] <Praxi> BlazemoreWork, plus the port is only opened from the inside
[16:04] <dmsuperman> nice aroman
[16:04] <BlazemoreWork> But if a malicious application wants to, it can just open a port
[16:04] <aroman> i mean that MBA wiki page is literally a flawless report.
[16:04] <Praxi> no one said UPNP was great :)
[16:04] <dmsuperman> Of course. A firewall doesn't help you if both sides of the firewall are compromised
[16:04] <dmsuperman> This is true of any firewall though
[16:04] <dmsuperman> Well
[16:04] <dmsuperman> Any consumer firewall
[16:05] <BlazemoreWork> No, if a firewall is only allowing traffic through port 80, even if a trojan got dropped on a webserver it wouldn't be able to do anything
[16:05] <BlazemoreWork> if the trojan is allowed to open a port it can establish a connection and the host becomes part of a botnet
[16:05] <fman23> Whenever I install the latest Ubuntu (64-bit) on my desktop computer (AMD Athlon II Dual-Core, Nvidia GeForce 6150SE).  Compiz crashes on first startup, and everytime I run it manually, it crashes with a seg fault.  Unity crashes because compiz crashes.  I installed Gnome Shell, but it also crashes on startup.  I think the problem may originate in xorg, but I am not sure how to solve this problem.  Any ideas?
[16:05] <Praxi> UPNP makes things easy for people who don't know, without giving away the entire firewall.  People who know often turn off UPNP
[16:05] <mercutio22> can someone tell me whats the default kernel version in precise pangolin?
[16:05] <on3pk> Hm.  Has anyone else had issues with Chrome on Ubuntu 2d?
[16:05] <TKing> or flash drive
[16:06] <dmsuperman> BlazemoreWork: It would just connect via port 80
[16:06] <dmsuperman> or whichever pot it came in on
[16:06] <BlazemoreWork> It came in on, say, a flash drive
[16:06] <fman23_> sorry about that, firefox crashed
[16:06] <dmsuperman> BlazemoreWork: So the web server isn't connected to the web?
[16:07] <dmsuperman> I'm saying that the firewall would be useless if the other side is compromised
[16:07] <dmsuperman> If you have physical access, you can just as easily disable the firewall at that point also
[16:07] <dmsuperman> Also BlazemoreWork you don't use upnp in a server setup
[16:07] <dmsuperman> it's for convenience of home use
[16:08] <TKing_> MonkeyDust can I retore the partition used inside windows?
[16:09] <fman23_> Does anyone have any ideas to solve my problem? if not, i will just try gentoo
[16:09] <TKing_> MonkeyDust, to be specific, I have 1 partition, and inside it i installed Windows and Ubuntu - the ubuntu is corrupt and uses some space how do I instal fresh one without corrupting windows?
[16:09] <fman23_> And also, i meant to say the livecd ran fine
[16:10] <on3pk> Likewise, I found out something: I can use 1600x900 on my monitor on 2d, but not Unity 3d... Why?
[16:10] <TKing_> theamdin , to be specific, I have 1 partition, and inside it i installed Windows and Ubuntu - the ubuntu is corrupt and uses some space how do I instal fresh one without corrupting windows?
[16:11] <dmsuperman> TKing_: How did you install ubuntu on th same partition as windows?
[16:11] <dmsuperman> wubi?
[16:11] <dmsuperman> If so, just use the uninstaller in windows
[16:11] <fman23_> on3pk: possibly something with compiz
[16:11] <on3pk> fman23: oh.
[16:12] <TKing_> dmsuperman, i installed windows, boot from cd to install ubuntu (dual boot)
[16:12] <on3pk> I'm on an older system (Intel 945 integrated graphics) would compiz not be able to do 1600x900 in 3d?
[16:12] <dmsuperman> TKing_: then...just delete your ubuntu partition
[16:13] <dmsuperman> format*
[16:14] <TKing_> dmsuperman, thanks, i tried it b4 and end up not knowing the actual partition it is installed in... also i cant seem to combine it or restore it back to the windows partion
[16:15] <dmsuperman> TKing_: Not sure if you can do that from ubuntu's installer disc (combine into an existing ntfs partition)
[16:15] <dmsuperman> In that scenario, what I do is just delete all the non-windows partitions
[16:15] <dmsuperman> then boot to a windows repair disc or similar and do the combining there
[16:16] <dmsuperman> OerHeks: It seems to have stopped. Very strange that it would lock the entire system up on a C2D with SSD
[16:16] <dmsuperman> stupid crappily written software :(
[16:17] <gtjreiwohj94> #t4nk
[16:17] <ki> where we ask the question about todays python workshop of ubuntu
[16:18] <saby> Any good free pdf reader with highlighting and annotation capability ?
[16:19] <Pici> ki: #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[16:19] <ki> thank you
[16:20] <refeiner> myrefeiner
[16:21] <nkts> how to check what nameserver I am using?
[16:21] <j`ey> how can I remove the top bar from my secondary screen?
[16:22] <oozbooz> nkts: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[16:22] <nkts> oozbooz: yeah, 127.0.0.1
[16:22] <oozbooz> are you running DNS on this box?
[16:23] <nkts> no!
[16:23] <oozbooz> are you still able to get names resolved?
[16:23] <oozbooz> do you use DHCP or static IP
[16:23] <nkts> oozbooz: yes, but I would like to know what nameservers I am using
[16:24] <nkts> dhcp
[16:24] <oozbooz> yes to... ?
[16:24] <nkts> yes - resolving names is ok
[16:24] <oozbooz> dhcp?
[16:25] <nkts> oozbooz: yea, ip is from dhcp
[16:25] <Pici> !away > VGoff
[16:25] <oozbooz> usually dhcp will push NS as well
[16:25] <nkts> oozbooz: but not 127.0.0.1
[16:26] <oozbooz> check /var/lib/dhclient/
[16:26] <saby> any good pdf reader with highlighting and annotation features ?
[16:27] <oozbooz> for ubuntu /var/lib/dhcp
[16:27] <oozbooz> there are hsould be lease files ... check values for dns
[16:28] <nkts> why the F ubuntu is running dnsmasq by default?
[16:28] <oozbooz> ohhh....
[16:28] <oozbooz> so you did install dns...
[16:28] <oozbooz> dnsmasq runs dns caching
[16:29] <oozbooz> so you have local dns
[16:29] <nkts> oozbooz: yes, in deed
[16:30] <TheLordOfTime> is it possible to disable dnsmasq's dns caching?
[16:33] <TheWizard> TheLordOfTime: --cache-size=0
[16:38] <Ponsjuh> Hi, Is there a way to see how long i have been logged in at X11 at a specific day.. example i login at 08.15 and logout at 18.15 are either simes being logged or can it be logged somewhere?
[16:40] <Ponsjuh> or maybe it can be done via gnome.. either way i want to know when i logged in and logged out so i can calculate my active time
[16:41] <Pici> Ponsjuh: last will show you login and logout times, just look for one for the proper tty.
[16:41] <OerHeks> Ponsjuh, you need  wtmp file > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man3/login.3.html
[16:41] <Pici> Ponsjuh: last looks at the wtmp file.
[16:41] <Ponsjuh> last won't show my local login only the ones i have done via terminal
[16:42] <Pici> really? I would think that your x-session would show up.
[16:42] <GeminiDomino> Hopefully someone can give me a hand. I'm getting a funky mdstat on a RAID1 12.04 Server (64-bit) that has me confused.  It says the second device has been removed (it hasn't, and the other 2 mirrored filesystems are showing fine)  http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZT7qLSds   . When I try to fail/remove the missing device (/dev/sda1) it says it doesn't exist, and if I try to re-add it, it says...
[16:42] <GeminiDomino> ...it's busy. Worth noting: this is a swap partition.  Any ideas?
[16:42] <Lartza> Failing to get sudo to work
[16:42] <Lartza> sudo: must be setuid root
[16:43] <on3pk> Hm.
[16:43] <Ponsjuh> i'm looking at it right now and it only shows pts/[0..X]
[16:45] <Lartza> sudoers has an admin group and I added my user to that group
[16:46] <Lartza> okay fixed it :)
[16:48] <Ponsjuh> ah found it
[16:48] <Ponsjuh> it's in /var/log/auth.log
[16:48] <DigDeeper> Is there anyway I can use the "alias" command for replacing long texts instead of commands?
[16:49] <DigDeeper> Can I say alias google='google.com' and then #ping google
[16:49] <theadmin> DigDeeper: zsh has global aliases (they act pretty much exactly like you specified), but I know of no way with bash
[16:50] <DigDeeper> hmmm, so no way in bash to replace long strings..
[16:50] <theadmin> DigDeeper: Not really... export google="google.com" ; ping $google ; # How about this?
[16:51] <DigDeeper> Naah
[16:51] <DigDeeper> The problem there I think is it takes the output of $google as input to ping
[16:51] <DigDeeper> the output to google.com is Command not found
[16:51] <DigDeeper> so that won't work
[16:52] <theadmin> DigDeeper: That's not how ${} works. That's how $() works
[16:52] <theadmin> DigDeeper: $google just means "the variable google"
[16:52] <DigDeeper> Aaah... never knew about it.. Let me try
[16:53] <DigDeeper> HAH, that works theadmin
[16:53] <DigDeeper> Thanks a lot..
[16:53] <DigDeeper> but I will have to put it in my .bashrc file to make it persistent
[16:54] <drPoo> what is the difference between the scripts found in /etc/init.d and those in /etc/default? Are the scripts in /etc/default the ones that get executed when running sudo service SERVICENAME start??
[16:54] <theadmin> drPoo: /etc/default contains default configs for... stuff... It's got nothing to do with initscripts.
[16:55] <ssta> although it's sometimes referred to by init scripts
[16:55] <theadmin> drPoo: /etc/init.d/ is provided for backwards-compatibility with Sys V INIT. Look under /etc/init/ for the Upstart configs.
[16:55] <drPoo> theadmin, is /etc/default an ubuntu/debian thing?
[16:56] <theadmin> drPoo: Probably so... I have it on my Arch, but it has only 3 little files
[16:56] <ssta> I think it's mandated by FHS
[16:56] <ssta> see section 9.3.2 of FHS
[16:57] <Guest39073> Hi. How to change icon for terminal running alpine?
[16:57] <ssta> hmm, actually, scratch that
[16:58] <ssta> that's a debianisation, yeah.  Sorry for confusion
[17:00] <iLogical> Please. I need thunderbird to the version 8.0 to work with the calendar add-on
[17:01] <iLogical> downgrade*
[17:01] <iLogical> a*
[17:01] <iLogical> how can I do that?
[17:02] <emobathtub> iLogical: You can actually open the plug in manually and edit the versions allowed. I forgot how to do it but. A quick google should suffice
[17:02] <emobathtub> They almost always work flawlessly.
[17:02] <GeminiDomino> (12.04 64-bit) Okay, I've got a RAID1 swap partition that seems to have me locked into a mutually exclusive charlie-foxtrot here.  The device was "removed" but can't be re-added even though it's already added but... *gets dizzy and just throws up the pastebin* http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Kv4jNF6g
[17:03] <excalibr> guys, how does nautilus mount drives without the need for root?
[17:03] <linuxuz3r> depend on what drive
[17:04] <emobathtub> excalibr: Depends on the drive
[17:04] <DigDeeper> thadmin: why did export work when using $google but alas didn't work ?
[17:04] <excalibr> windows partition, ntfs
[17:04] <emobathtub> linuxuz3r: Too fast for me
[17:04] <L3top> GeminiDomino: I cannot help probably, though I will look, but I wanted to say that was the most entertaining help request I have seen.
[17:05] <franzisco> ciao
[17:05] <franzisco> !list
[17:05] <theadmin> DigDeeper: "alias" makes a pseudo-command, it will only work at the beginning of the shell request.
[17:06] <saby> excalibr, if root privileges are required, nautilius does ask for your password so that it can get sudo priviliges to mount the drive
[17:06] <iLogical> it only show a red bar saying it can't install the add-on because the version isn't compatible. there's no thing I can click or right-click. I am sure this add-on isn't in the list presented there
[17:06] <iLogical> emobathtub,
[17:06] <emobathtub> iLogical: Which plugin are you using
[17:06] <iLogical> lightning
[17:06] <iLogical> oh no
[17:06] <iLogical> plugin ..
[17:07] <DigDeeper> theadmin: That makes sense because I also tried alias google='echo google.com' and it didn't work. Thanks
[17:07] <iLogical> I have several plugins in use. Do you mean the add-on?
[17:08] <emobathtub> iLogical: Add-on, rather. Should be able to go to their website and download a .xml or similar for the plugin, then you can right click it and open it in your text editor and there will be a line with allowed versions, change it to reflect your version number, bam.
[17:08] <emobathtub> And by plugin I mean add-on
[17:08] <GeminiDomino> L3Top: I do what I can. ;)
[17:08] <iLogical> emobathtub, ok
[17:09] <excalibr> saby: your point is? :D
[17:09] <iLogical> emobathtub, it's a .xpi :(
[17:10] <iLogical> I can't edit
[17:10] <saby> excalibr, when required nautilus does take super user privileges when it asks for your password
[17:10] <emobathtub> iLogical: File extensions mean nothing, right click it and try to open it in gedit
[17:10] <saby> as a user in ubuntu is added to the sudo group
[17:11] <iLogical> it crashed gedit
[17:12] <iLogical> or it's opening and taking a long time
[17:12] <emobathtub> iLogical: Hm. I forgot how to do it. It might be zipped or something. Try Googling "editing firefox add ons for versions"
[17:14] <akkara> test
[17:15] <GeminiDomino> ugh. This is a total pita...
[17:15] <excalibr> saby: i was actually asking *how* nautilus sometimes is able to mount drives/partition without requiring root priv just now. and i just found out that it probably uses udisks cmd to do that
[17:15] <ubuntu> hemant
[17:16] <Guest32962> ho
[17:16] <Guest32962> hi
[17:17] <GeminiDomino> excalibr: doesn't it also use fuse for that?
[17:17] <akkara> hi
[17:17] <iLogical> emobathtub, oh no. it workds for 13.0, 13.1, I have 12.0
[17:19] <threexk> hello.  Window list buttons are appearing as white for me, against the grey of the bottom bar, like they are always highlighted.  Does anyone know how to fix?
[17:19] <NotSoRandomUsern> I have a issue with resuming after being suspended for more than about 20 mins
[17:19] <NotSoRandomUsern> Anybody eel like helping?
[17:19] <emobathtub> iLogical: So modify it, and see if it works.
[17:19] <NotSoRandomUsern> *Anybody feel like helping?
[17:20] <NotSoRandomUsern> :(
[17:21] <GeminiDomino> Can I add a "spare" to the raid and then convert it to an active device?
[17:21] <excalibr> NotSoRandomUsern: what's the issue? just spit it out
[17:21] <threexk> nevermind my question.  Known bug that is on the verge of getting fixed.
[17:21] <NotSoRandomUsern> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2005943
[17:21] <NotSoRandomUsern> This is the thread
[17:21] <NotSoRandomUsern> Basicly
[17:22] <NotSoRandomUsern> I have to hardreset my laptop
[17:22] <NotSoRandomUsern> If it has been suspended for more than like 20 minutes
[17:22] <vampirnata> anyone know how to check gpu temp in cli? I'm using sensors but it only gives 1 temp and i think it's the mainboard temp
[17:22] <ryanprior> How do you set up your Ubuntu calendar to pull in events from a Google calendar?
[17:22] <NotSoRandomUsern> vamp
[17:22] <NotSoRandomUsern> lm-sensors
[17:22] <vampirnata> i have that installed
[17:23] <NotSoRandomUsern> Hmmm
[17:23] <vampirnata> running it gives me only my core/motherboard temps
[17:23] <vampirnata> it's an atom processor
[17:23] <iLogical> emobathtub, I will just upgrade. Thanks!
[17:23] <vampirnata> with onboard intel gpu
[17:23] <NotSoRandomUsern> sensord?
[17:23] <ryanprior> vampirnata: lm-sensors should show you all the devices it has data for, if you aren't getting your gpu temps then you might need to fiddle with drivers or support just might not be there yet.
[17:23] <vampirnata> ahh right :/
[17:23] <reza> hey folks, i've got a server that is currently at a 5 minute load average of 10.00, how can i see what's causing the load? I've checked TOP and there is nothing that seems to be using all the cpu/ram/disk on the machine...normally it's around a load of 1.00.
[17:23] <emobathtub> iLogical: Sounds good :)
[17:24] <vampirnata> thanks :)
[17:24] <excalibr> reza: /j #ubuntu-server :)
[17:24] <reza> k
[17:24] <NotSoRandomUsern> reza
[17:24] <NotSoRandomUsern> Do you have backups
[17:24] <geekbri> I've got maveerick meerkat installed, and I'd like to install a package (monit) from precise... how would I go about doing that... just for that package and its dependencies
[17:24] <NotSoRandomUsern> configured
[17:24] <reza> yes i do
[17:24] <reza> well not ubuntu backups
[17:24] <Aptar> I want to begin learning how to be a developer for Ubuntu.  Can someone point me on the right path to start on?
[17:24] <reza> backups via rsync/mysqldump
[17:24] <NotSoRandomUsern> See how frequent it backs up
[17:24] <NotSoRandomUsern> And look at your sql querie
[17:24] <sipior> reza: what's the cpu usage line?
[17:24] <NotSoRandomUsern> And look at your sql query*
[17:25] <reza> cpu usage is under 10%
[17:25] <NotSoRandomUsern> See if your server has trouble staying ontop
[17:25] <reza> disk wait time under 15%
[17:25] <ryanprior> Aptar: are you new to software development in general or just looking for Ubuntu-specific info?
[17:25] <sipior> reza: including iowait?
[17:25] <akkara> hii
[17:25] <Aptar> ryanprior: I am new to software development in general.
[17:25] <reza> iowait was minimal, now it's recovered to 1.48 5 min load..
[17:25] <reza> strange, nothing crashed or core dumped either
[17:26] <reza> brb gents
[17:26] <ryanprior> Aptar: I suggest reading Dive Into Python (http://www.diveintopython.net/) -- Python has first-class support in Ubuntu whether you want to write a game, a desktop app, a Unity lense, or whatever else. It also integrates with the Ubuntu-friendly "quickly" framework. Learning Python is a great first step and Dive Into Python is a very approachable introduction to software development and...
[17:26] <ryanprior> ...Python in particular.
[17:27] <Aptar> ryanprior: Ok.  Thank you very much.
[17:27] <reza> back
[17:28] <ryanprior> Does anyone know how I can pull my Google Calendar events into my Ubuntu calendar?
[17:29] <NotSoRandomUsern> Ryan
[17:29] <NotSoRandomUsern> Tried googling yet?
[17:29] <NotSoRandomUsern> This is the kind of thing you will find online
[17:30] <ryanprior> Is there no way to do it without installing more software?
[17:31] <NotSoRandomUsern> >.<
[17:31] <NotSoRandomUsern> Prolly not
[17:31] <NotSoRandomUsern> idk
[17:31] <ryanprior> Ah well, I'll try a few things and see what I can get to work best.
[17:33] <takis_GR> hello
[17:33] <philaneo2s> hi
[17:33] <takis_GR> i need your help
[17:33] <philaneo2s> i need some help too
[17:34] <philaneo2s> logout
[17:34] <fidel> !ask > takis_GR
[17:34] <fidel> !ask > philipballew
[17:34] <ironhalik> !ask
[17:35] <philipballew> fidel, no
[17:35] <philaneous> so i copied my domain name to default
[17:35] <fidel> philipballew: sorry - wrong nick
[17:35] <philaneous> in sites available
[17:35] <philipballew> !ask > philaneous
[17:35] <Pici> !enter
[17:36] <philaneous> i copied my domain in sites available to default because when people type www.domain.com it will give that default "your server works"
[17:36] <IVM> hey what is the name of the themes that gives you different task bar again starts with C?
[17:37] <iLogical> emobathtub, guess what, I can't install the add-on because dayly 16.0b isn't compatible :(
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> IVM  compiz?
[17:37] <takis_GR> i have a pc with ubuntu 10.04 installed. now cannot boot in. i have boot from live cd and try to mount /dev/sda1 in /mnt but pc freeze. try to kill mount but nothing.
[17:37] <philaneous> problem now is that i can only access my server via web when im only logged in the terminal
[17:37] <takis_GR> how can unfreeze pc and check or fix sda1?
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> philaneous  yes, that's the way to connect to a remote server
[17:37] <emobathtub> iLogical: So you're going to have to do what I said haha. Unfortunate
[17:37] <IVM> MonkeyDust: no, ca and ends with a o
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> IVM  cairo?
[17:38] <IVM> MonkeyDust: yes, how do i get it
[17:38] <philaneous> MonkeyDust: but it was working before i did that
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> philaneous  it's in the repos, you can easily install it
[17:39] <philaneous> MonkeyDust: i copied my domain to default because when someone typed www.domain.com it will give that default message then when they typed domain.com
[17:39] <philaneous> MonkeyDust: so domain.com will give them something different
[17:40] <takis_GR> i have a pc with ubuntu 10.04 installed. now cannot boot in. i have boot from live cd and try to mount /dev/sda1 in /mnt but pc freeze. try to kill mount but nothing.how can unfreeze pc and check or fix sda1?
[17:40] <IVM> MonkeyDust: can't working in terminal
[17:40] <philaneous> MonkeyDust: now www.domain.com and domain.com only work now when im logged in the terminal lol
[17:40] <SrPx> Can I use ubuntu on the new mbp?
[17:40] <fidel> takis_GR: why cant you boot in the first place? might help us understand your issue -> helping you
[17:40] <SrPx> without problems
[17:41] <philaneous> MonkeyDust: im not even on the local network lol
[17:41] <fidel> takis_GR: any error output while you try a normal boot?
[17:41] <philaneous> MonkeyDust: wtf is going on
[17:41] <takis_GR> i dont know because my brother pc has the problem and i am connected via teamviewer
[17:41] <Qazjap11> Hi, I'm trying to configure pptp vpn in network manager: I can connect through the terminal, but when I configure it in the NM and try to connect, absolutely nothing happens. No ppp0 interface, no packets to dest in wireshark, no logs, no icon changing.. nothing...
[17:42] <fidel> takis_GR: to offer help we should try to start with the core-problem. therefor errmor-messages usually help
[17:42] <fidel> try to let your brother to irc as well - if he is able to .- and forward some more infos
[17:42] <akkara> joined
[17:43] <philaneous> MonkeyDust: maybe ill restart apache
[17:43] <philaneous> MonkeyDust: ?
[17:43] <philaneous> names
[17:44] <Relondo> Ubuntu only seems to recognize 3.3 of my 4 gigs of RAM. How can I utilize all of my RAM?
[17:44] <fidel> !enter > philaneous
[17:44] <sipior> Relondo: run a 64-bit version of the OS.
[17:44] <xangua> Relondo: what version if ubuntu do you use¿ do you use an integrated graphic card¿
[17:44] <takis_GR> he will restart pc and make a video with error. when i read it i will come back
[17:44] <fidel> takis_GR: good idea
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> philaneous  i was not at my desk
[17:45] <Relondo> sipior, xangua: I am on 12.04 Precise, 64-Bit, with an AMD Radeon 6520G Graphics Card.
[17:45] <sipior> Relondo: make sure memory remapping is enabled in your bios.
[17:45] <Relondo> sipior: What's that?
[17:46] <iLogical> emobathtub, I just downloaded the last version on their website HAHAHAH
[17:46] <iLogical> emobathtub, and it worked
[17:46] <sipior> Relondo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_GB_barrier
[17:46] <Sharaak> Hey guys, first time here. Im a little new at linux and on the latest release 12.04 I have been having mouse troubles. Could anyone help me?
[17:46] <iLogical> how do I disable PPA from my repos?
[17:47] <Relondo> Also, how can I uninstall programs?
[17:47] <Relondo> sipior: I am on 64-Bit.
[17:47] <sipior> Relondo: keep reading.
[17:47] <Relondo> sipior: Alirght.
[17:47] <Relondo> *Alright.
[17:48] <littleTurtle> hey guys, I installed Ubuntu to my external HDD, and it has /boot/ and everything on it. However, it's not the first partition, so the MBR is currently empty. How do I correct this problem (IE: install grub to the first partition?)
[17:49] <xangua> !ppa-purge | iLogical
[17:49] <Relondo> sipior: Alright, I'll reboot and see what I can do. Will return.
[17:49] <sipior> Relondo: good luck
[17:50] <Qazjap11> Hi, sorry for doubling... I'm trying to configure pptp vpn in network manager: I can connect through the terminal, but when I configure it in the NM and try to connect, absolutely nothing happens. No ppp0 interface, no packets to dest in wireshark, no logs, no icon changing.. nothing...
[17:51] <ashima1> Hi..Can anyone help me with setting up my wifi...i downloaded the driver ralink 5390 for my hp g62 laptop
[17:51] <user___> hi
[17:51] <littleTurtle> I guess I should just move the sdd1 partition after deleting the Ubuntu one, and then reinstalling to the free space?
[17:51] <user___> exit
[17:51] <sk8|> ashima1, are you on 12.04?
[17:51] <ashima1> yes i am
[17:52] <sk8|> what's the issue?
[17:52] <sk8|> not connecting?
[17:52] <ashima1> it doesn't switch on the wireless for me
[17:52] <ashima1> and when i do ifconfig
[17:52] <ashima1> it doesn't show any wireless connections
[17:53] <sk8|> i've been battling it aswell
[17:53] <sk8|> i gave up on 12.04
[17:53] <sk8|> i tried for 2 weeks to get it working with no luck
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> sk8|  try iwconfig
[17:53] <Sharaak> I had problems with my mouse clicks as soon as I logged in
[17:53] <ashima1> i had version 10 before...and did some fixes and finally was able to fix it
[17:54] <sk8|> monkey1, there's something wrong with power management
[17:54] <sk8|> MonkeyDust,
[17:54] <Relondo> sipior: No such option.
[17:54] <ashima1> @sk8: so u weren't able to work it?
[17:54] <sk8|> no
[17:54] <sk8|> i got wirless working
[17:54] <sk8|> but only when plugged into to an AC source
[17:54] <ashima1> what wasn't working then?
[17:54] <sipior> Relondo: check your motherboard manual. you might be stuck with the situation, i'm sorry to say.
[17:54] <ashima1> ohhh
[17:54] <sk8|> when running on battery power wireless would not work
[17:54] <ashima1> my ethernet works
[17:55] <ashima1> ohh wierd
[17:55] <Relondo> sipior: Where would I find my motherboard manual? Should that have shipped with my laptop?
[17:55] <sk8|> something with power management is shutting the wifi card down
[17:55] <ashima1> i am running on ac power too
[17:55] <dlong> Anybody here been able to use the remote access feature of the Watch ESPN web site?  I can't get it to work with Ubuntu, but can on other operating systems.
[17:55] <sipior> Relondo: probably not :-) but a quick google search on the make and model should turn up a fair bit.
[17:56] <Relondo> sipior: Alright.
[17:56] <ashima1> i have a button which enables and disables wireless
[17:56] <ashima1> but it doesn't seem to work
[17:56] <ircnode0> somebody know a command that I can get parent name? e.g. magic_command /folder/subfolder/file.mp3 ==output==> subfolder?
[17:59] <Relondo> sipior: A search for "toshiba satellite l775d motherboard manual" returned nothing. I got an Archlinux article that would have been useful a week ago, but nothing mentioning RAM problems.
[18:00] <sipior> Relondo: try the toshiba site.
[18:00] <Relondo> sipior: Why don't I think of these things myself?
[18:02] <oCean> ircnode0: only with a combination of commands, for example   dirname /one/two/three.txt | cut -d/ -f3   or even    basename $(dirname /one/two/three)
[18:05] <oozbooz> I've installed 12.04 on server MB w/out sound chip, later I've added ASUS DGX sound card ... but failed to make it work
[18:05] <oozbooz> any suggestions ? thanks
[18:06] <joydog> q
[18:06] <oozbooz> lspci show the card, but aplay -l does not
[18:06] <Relondo>  sipior: All I've found is a Detailed Specs PDF. What am I looking for, anyway?
[18:07] <sipior> Relondo: the manual for the mainboard of your laptop. at this point, consider calling toshiba directly, or the folks you bought the thing from.
[18:07] <Relondo> sipior: Well, Toshiba won't give me any Ubuntu support.
[18:08] <sipior> Relondo: you don't need to mention ubuntu at any point of the conversation.
[18:08] <Relondo> sipior: (And I don't have this problem on Windows 7).
[18:08] <alchemist9> oozbooz: have you tryed sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base?
[18:08] <Relondo> sipior: Okay. Well, I was asking what I'm looking for inside the manual.
[18:08] <ircnode0> oCean: your script is really close, but I don't actually know how deep file is.
[18:08] <oozbooz> alchemist9: no
[18:08] <SanDarC> hello, please help me
[18:09] <sipior> Relondo: you're looking to see if there is a memory remapping option in the bios.
[18:09] <fidel> !ask > SanDarC
[18:09] <oozbooz> alchemist9: thanks, I will
[18:09] <Relondo> sipior: Okay.
[18:09] <sipior> Relondo: i need to be on my way. good luck sorting it out.
[18:09] <Relondo> sipior: Yeah, thanks :)
[18:10] <ircnode0> oCean: like it can be folder1/folder2/.../foldern/file.type
[18:10] <SanDarC> fidel thanx, but i have a little problem after i have done installation ubuntu 12.04lts when booting it shows: symbol not found grubdiv64
[18:10] <oozbooz> alchemist9: aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found... should I reboot the system
[18:11] <alchemist9> oozbooz: you can try it may detect it my only other advice is to compile the driver the old fasion way
[18:12] <fidel> SanDarC: never had that issue - but searching for that error gave tons of result - one which isnt THAt outdated might be woth a look: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1735231.html
[18:12] <Nerf_Jihad> oozbooz: do you have a livecd you can use?
[18:13] <oozbooz> Nerf_Jihad: yes I do
[18:13] <Nerf_Jihad> oozbooz: the zealous autoconfig might generate a working config you can use
[18:14] <oozbooz> which files shold be responsible for the sound config?
[18:14] <SanDarC> fidel can u help me please i am newbie
[18:15] <fidel> SanDarC: have you seen my last comment with the link?
[18:16] <oozbooz> Nerf_Jihad: which files should be responsible for the sound config?
[18:16] <SanDarC> fidel yes but not the same message :(
[18:16] <Lartza> Note, selecting 'python-setuptools' instead of 'python-distribute' why??
[18:16] <fidel> SanDarC: afaik thats the error you reported - but well then ignore my comment and reask the channel - in best case a bit more detailed then last time.
[18:17] <Nerf_Jihad_> oozbooz: off the top of my head, I'm not 100% sure. If your sound works on the liveCD, someone a little more familiar with the process might be able to help. I'm consulting the oracle now
[18:17] <SanDarC> fidel i dont have windows install just ubuntu 12.04lts
[18:17] <fidel> SanDarC: you still have grub
[18:17] <takis_GR> where can i upload two images with errors??
[18:17] <fidel> takis_GR: imagebin.org or something similar is an option
[18:18] <SanDarC> fidel i dont know if i have grub or not? sorry
[18:19] <vampirnata> I'm having some difficulty checking GPU temp. I've installed lm-sensors, run sensors-detect, answerering YES to all, and it only added smsc47m1 and coretemp. Anything else I can try?
[18:20] <ircnode0> oCean: I got it e.g. path=folder1/folder2/folder3/folder4 ; basename `echo ${na%/*}`
[18:20] <ircnode0> oCean: oCean: *path=folder1/folder2/folder3/folder4/file.typ
[18:21] <Nerf_Jihad> stupid DSL... oozbooz, did you get your unit rebooted with the livecd yet?
[18:22] <roasted> Question - I'm looking for some "personal home cloud" based solutions... basically like Dropbox or Ubuntu One, but hosted on my own server within my house. I checked out OwnCloud, but I'm having some issues with it, so I'm looking for alternatives to scout the area. Is there anything else out there worth checking into?
[18:22] <vampirnata> roasted: OwnCloud is great. I would recommend taking another shot at it.
[18:22] <ircnode0> oCean: haven't learnt bash yet, because the syntax is somehow crazy. thanks anyway.
[18:23] <roasted> vampirnata: I'm having a heckuva time logging in to it. It keeps saying something about the mysql user. Have you seen this?
[18:23] <Nerf_Jihad> roasted: OwnCloud is pretty sweet. It's well worth the effort
[18:23] <morsnowski> roasted, what do you need. just a file drop or email  ...
[18:23] <Nerf_Jihad> roasted: what's the error say?
[18:23] <roasted> morsnowski: Dropbox, but on my own personal box. That's basically it.
[18:24] <vampirnata> roasted: make sure your mysql is set up correctly?
[18:24] <roasted> MySQL enter the database username. MySQL enter the database name.
[18:24] <morsnowski> just get one of the content management systems
[18:24] <i7c> is there something to make continuous backups like that "time machine" thing for mac os?
[18:24] <roasted> vampirnata: is it needed to set up mysql independently?
[18:24] <nextum678> hi, how to install e.q. wine silently?
[18:24] <roasted> vampirnata: it asked me mysql related info during the installer, so I thought that part was done
[18:24] <vampirnata> it probably wanted your mysql details
[18:25] <vampirnata> you should slow down and read what it asks ;)
[18:25] <roasted> vampirnata: I... I am. I'm sitting at a login screen here.
[18:25] <roasted> vampirnata: I googled the error and other users were having the same thing, whcih made me think maybe I'm seeing a bug
[18:25] <vampirnata> okay, let me check
[18:25] <Nerf_Jihad> i7c: yeah, it's called Dejadup
[18:26] <roasted> vampirnata: put it this way - when you set up owncloud, did you set up any sort of mysql stuff externally? Like did you install and set up a database, THEN install owncloud?
[18:26] <Nerf_Jihad> i7c: an rsync is fine too
[18:26] <sacarlson> roasted: you were asked what is it you need to have online on your site,  just share files or ?/
[18:26] <oozbooz> Nerf_Jihad: no ... it is production system, have to wait for the window to work on it...
[18:26] <roasted> sacarlson: I answered. I basically want dropbox... but on my own personal server, so yeah, basically.
[18:26] <vampirnata> roasted: http://tinyurl.com/bwchu35
[18:26] <i7c> Nerf_Jihad: i'll read a little about it. thx for the hint
[18:27] <roasted> vampirnata: that's not the error I get.
[18:27] <roasted> vampirnata: did you set up your database prior to installing owncloud?
[18:27] <vampirnata> i already had a working mysql
[18:27] <vampirnata> never had that error
[18:27] <sacarlson> roasted: oh sorry I didn't even know what dropbox was but see it's just a file shareing web site
[18:28] <Nerf_Jihad_> i7c: dejadup does encrypted, compressed differential backups as files change, rsync is the tried-and-true method used by the grey-bearded ones
[18:29] <fulcan> How does ubutu install to a file on an ntfs partition? A friend just showed me his dual boot windows system and fsisk -l shows sda1 sda2 as a normal Linux instal on 'NTFS'? but no signs of is widows partition at all. reboot the machine into windows and it show a 20 gig file (his ubuntu installation) and that is it. this make no sense to me. can someone expain.
[18:29] <sacarlson> roasted: I did install some php package that was like filemanager that each user controled his own files but not sure they could set others to see them
[18:29] <xangua> !wubi | you mean wubi¿
[18:29] <roasted> i7c: deja dup is based on duplicity, a command line backup utility. duplicity is based on rsync. So by using deja dup, you're indirectly using rsync as well.
[18:31] <tom___> hey, i'm trying to install ubuntu server 12 from usb, but after the keyboard selection it says that i can't find the cd rom, what do i do?
[18:31] <vampirnata> roasted: did you install owncloud with apt-get or as per instructions on their website?
[18:31] <wo0f> tom___, what are you using to burn your usb?
[18:32] <tom___> unetbootin
[18:32] <roasted> vampirnata: apt-get
[18:32] <vampirnata> roasted: okay i'm doing it now on a fresh ubuntu vm
[18:32] <vampirnata> with no mysql
[18:32] <taddle> Hi
[18:32] <taddle> I'm having port problems
[18:33] <taddle> I'm setting a minecraft classic server, 800craft running on mono
[18:33] <sacarlson> taddle: then doc that boat at the other port
[18:33] <cndiv> hey everyone, I have a broad question. If my work wifi network works fine with most machines, but a few have spotty reception, how do I begin to troubleshoot that?
[18:33] <vampirnata> roasted: when you are at the login, click the dropdown "advanced"
[18:33] <cndiv> assume every machine is running 12.04
[18:34] <cndiv> and is up to date
[18:34] <roasted> vampirnata: I did. Then what?
[18:34] <vampirnata> what does it say there...
[18:34] <taddle> I've forwarded, disable ufw, but it still tells me another program is using every port
[18:34] <roasted> vampirnata: data folder, db user, db pw, etc
[18:34] <vampirnata> roasted: so therefore? :)
[18:35] <roasted> vampirnata: am I putting in new info? Or am I putting in info from a previously setup sql database?
[18:35] <sacarlson> cndiv: can't you see the signal level in network-manager or wicd to see if wifi signal is low or not?
[18:35] <vampirnata> you will need to set up a mysql database
[18:35] <roasted> vampirnata: okay, that's what the documentation was lacking then.
[18:35] <vampirnata> i saw it said that it can use sqlite, but when you drop down advanced it says mysql will be used
[18:35] <vampirnata> either way you will need a database
[18:35] <roasted> vampirnata: any guides to setting up mysql db/user?
[18:36] <vampirnata> google ubuntu mysql :)
[18:36] <roasted> vampirnata: I thought that was the point of it asking for a mysql root pw when you set up owncloud. I thought it did its own thing.
[18:36] <roasted> vampirnata: been there. Some guides are crazy complex. I'm not sure what exactly I need for this instance.
[18:36] <roasted> vampirnata: I assume just a blank db and a user?
[18:36] <taddle> anybody got an idea for me?
[18:36] <roasted> vampirnata: just makes no sense it wouldn't be tagged to set up mysql AS you set up owncloud. Several other apps I've used do this.
[18:37] <vampirnata> try this
[18:37] <sacarlson> taddle: might it require sudo to run?
[18:37] <amok> how do i start a shell with another programming running in it...mc and aterm ?
[18:37] <vampirnata> roasted: do you have mysql installed though?
[18:38] <vampirnata> roasted: i think you may have
[18:38] <roasted> vampirnata: yes, it came installed when I installed owncloud
[18:38] <vampirnata> roasted: then use root user and the password you set. name the database something and click finish
[18:38] <IVM> where can i download cario?
[18:38] <vampirnata> just did it on a fresh install, worked
[18:39] <alchemist9> amok: open another terminal window? or if your using console hit alt+Fkey ...
[18:39] <vampirnata> roasted: going to watch the football now. good luck :)
[18:39] <roasted> thanks
[18:40] <morsnowski> vampirnata,  exactly "go on you boys in green!"
[18:40] <amok> no alchemist9, i want midnightcommand running in the desktop background of my fluxbox
[18:40] <octaviordz> any one here following (trying to) Ubuntu App Developer Showdown Workshops? youtube link is down? (or just me)
[18:41] <taddle> (sarcasticly) thanks for all your help!
[18:41] <ikonia> taddle: welcome, take care
[18:41] <sacarlson> taddle:  well you didn't even answer my question
[18:42] <sacarlson> taddle: thanks for beings so responsive
[18:42] <taddle> I wasn't asked a question, was I?
[18:42] <sacarlson> 01:36:35 AM) taddle: anybody got an idea for me?
[18:42] <donvito> hello, im using ubuntu 12.04 desktop edition and im connection in internet through wireles wifi dongle, everytime when my router disconects my wifi doesnt connect automaticaly it asks me to join on the network , how can i make the internet connection became automatically and conects on the router automatically
[18:42] <taddle> sacarlson, yes, I said that
[18:43] <alchemist9> amok: then ctrl+x should background the program or use screen the options are yours...
[18:43] <takis_GR> i am back. this is the error screen. http://imagebin.org/216955
[18:43] <taddle> I asked YOU a question, not vice versa
[18:43] <pulse00> hi all. anyone knows how to install the time executable? i'm running a munin script which needs this executable instead of the bash time command
[18:44] <ryanprior> taddle: He asked if maybe you should use sudo. Not a very helpful question, as the answer is obviously no, but yeah, that's up in the chat log.
[18:44] <taddle> Tried with and without
[18:45] <cndiv> sacarlson, I'm actually not familiar with that. What if I look and the sigal is low on one machine but high on another and they are both running up to date 12.04?
[18:45] <ryanprior> taddle: No idea why your game won't run, but I do know that getting snarky with the channel is counterproductive. The folks here are volunteers and are eager to provide answers when they can.
[18:45] <donvito> hello, im using ubuntu 12.04 desktop edition and im connection in internet through wireles wifi dongle, everytime when my router disconects my wifi doesnt connect automaticaly it asks me to join on the network , how can i make the internet connection became automatically and conects on the router automatically
[18:45] <lbbef> Hi! I couldn't boot into ubuntu live cd, so i went to downloaded a few12.04 x64 cd images from ubuntu.com and checked the md5 and CRC. Out of 7 images, only 2 had the same hash, the rest were completely different. Any idea why?
[18:45] <ryanprior> taddle: I suggest trying back in an hour, see if anybody with different knowledge is around then.
[18:46] <taddle> ryanprior, to be honest, I don't know why I came
[18:46] <craigbass1976> is there a way to look again at the list of updates that I installed this morning?
[18:46] <taddle> I've never had good experiences here
[18:46] <craigbass1976> taddle, what are you afteR?
[18:46] <takis_GR> i am back. this is the error screen. http://imagebin.org/216955
[18:46] <taddle> To find out why ubuntu is telling all game servers all ports are in use
[18:46] <taddle> when clearly, they're not
[18:47] <taddle> I checked netstat
[18:47] <sacarlson> cndiv: there will be a point where the wifi signal will be too low to get all the packets you need,  you might experiment to find out what that level is before the bandwidth is too low to use
[18:49] <taddle> Any idea why ubuntu would claim ports are being used to applications
[18:49] <donvito> hello, im using ubuntu 12.04 desktop edition and im connection in internet through wireles wifi dongle, everytime when my router disconects my wifi doesnt connect automaticaly it asks me to join on the network , how can i make the internet connection became automatically and conects on the router automatically
[18:49] <taddle> but tells me they're not
[18:49] <sacarlson> taddle: port forwarding set on router?
[18:49] <taddle> yes
[18:50] <sacarlson> taddle:  checked netstat -pant; and said what?
[18:50] <kRush> anyone have a xhat script that blocks those stupid 'we' queries I'm getting in here?
[18:51] <alchemist9> lbbef: somthing is corrupting your downloads, as long as the md5 and crc match it's a good image to burn
[18:51] <craigbass1976> Oh wait... is /var/log/apt/history.log a list of what got upgraded in any given session ?
[18:51] <sacarlson> kRush: I'm getting alot of those lately also
[18:51] <choppyfireballs> Hello, I was wondering if anyone can help me troubleshoot why xl2tpd will not start up
[18:51] <kRush> sacarlson, any idea what those are about?
[18:52] <taddle> Only thing I don't expect is "0.0.0.0:*"
[18:52] <taddle> Erm
[18:52] <takis_GR> i have  this error boot screen. http://imagebin.org/216955 who can help me??
[18:52] <sacarlson> kRush: I traced some and they were from different location so proxyed bot or ?
[18:52] <taddle> if you saw a smiley, it shouldn't have been
[18:52] <ryanprior> Ask away, choppyfireballs. If anybody knows the answer they will chime in. :-)
[18:53] <eutheria> what do i need to install to play a .asx extension?
[18:53] <matthewlawson3> Hey guys I have a question. I want to change the hostname of my computer to something else so it shows up on a Windows share as that name. However, when I change the name it does not change the name in the Windows Share and I cannot access the Ubuntu machine anymore. Any ideas?
[18:54] <choppyfireballs> currently I am attempting to set up a vpn to connect my razr maxx to our network, i'm using openswan and xl2tpd, i have set up and installed the certificates onto my phone and went to go start xl2tpd and it just [failed]
[18:54] <taddle> what is 0.0.0.0:*
[18:54] <ryanprior> eutheria: looks like a music playlist file, so maybe Totem, VLC, mplayer, or banshee would read it?
[18:54] <nsarfati> hello
[18:54] <matthewlawson3> Hey guys I have a question. I want to change the hostname of my computer to something else so it shows up on a Windows share as that name. However, when I change the name it does not change the name in the Windows Share and I cannot access the Ubuntu machine anymore without using the default name of Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[18:55] <tmg> matthewlawson3: /etc/hostname
[18:55] <ryanprior> choppyfireballs: have you tried checking any logs associated with the xl2tpd service?
[18:55] <sacarlson> choppyfireballs: I've never used openswan ,  I've used openvpn  I start with no encryption to be sure the routeing is working then add the encryption as needed after I know it works
[18:55] <takis_GR> windows shares use samba. the name for sharing is in smb.conf
[18:56] <eutheria> ryanprior, do you know why rhythmbox was set to be the default ?
[18:56] <taddle> samba screwed up my sources list :/
[18:56] <D3RGPS31> my laptop's keyboard and mouse don't work :l attaching a laptop and mouse through usb works though
[18:56] <D3RGPS31> what do i do? :3
[18:56] <eutheria> D3RGPS31, what laptop?
[18:56] <Elrick> :o
[18:56] <ryanprior> eutheria: it's gone back and forth, the latest UDS had an in-depth discussion and I wasn't a part of it but I know that the accusation was leveled at the Banshee community that they weren't responsive enough to Ubuntu's needs.
[18:56] <D3RGPS31> asus 1215n-pu17
[18:57] <takis_GR> i have  this error boot screen. http://imagebin.org/216955 who can help me??
[18:57] <eutheria> ryanprior, oh
[18:57] <eutheria> i use cinnamon desktop anyway
[18:57] <sacarlson> taddle what does zebra mean?  out of context I don't know what 0.0.0.0:* is eather
[18:57] <tmg> guys, is there a simple way to boot ub with reseted/clean X settings? I turned off my laptop when had monitor conected and now my gnome3 is fucked up when i try to run it w/o monitor
[18:57] <taddle> zebra?
[18:57] <eutheria> i found even the unity 5.12 update really didn't improve the 3d performance
[18:57] <OerHeks> eutheria, canonical dumped all mono applications. that is why banshee is removed.
[18:58] <donvito> were is located wireles config in ubuntu ?
[18:58] <eutheria> thanks OerHeks
[18:58] <tmg> donvito: network manager
[18:58] <donvito> in cmd line sorry
[18:58] <taddle> ah
[18:58] <matthewlawson3> what line needs to be changed to change the name in the Samba config file?
[18:58] <taddle> 0.0.0.0 means all IP addresses on the local machine
[18:58] <craigbass1976> Is there a way to roll back one of the packages that got updated this morning?
[18:59] <takis_GR> by default smb.conf use workgroup.
[18:59] <takis_GR> *name=workgroup
[18:59] <matthewlawson3> the name of the network is the same as the Windows PCs and they can see each other and access each other while my hostname is Ubuntu
[19:00] <astronaut> Hello. Is there a python library for encoding data into QR-code, available from Ubuntu 12.04 archive?
[19:00] <matthewlawson3> But when I change the hostname Windows cannot see the Linux machine anymore
[19:00] <profiler1982> differene betwen wubi and normal install
[19:00] <profiler1982> what are thy
[19:01] <takis_GR> i have  this error boot screen. http://imagebin.org/216955 who can help me??
[19:01] <trism> astronaut: python-qrencode it seems
[19:01] <OerHeks> profiler1982, wubi is inside windows, not the real experience.
[19:01] <D3RGPS31> my laptop's keyboard and mouse work during init, but stop working after in tty and x :l attaching a keyboard and mouse through usb works though; asus 1215n-pu17
[19:01] <alchemist9> profiler1982: a wubi install will install a loop mounted disk image a regular install will install to the hard disk directly..
[19:02] <ryanprior> astronaut: doesn't look like it, but you can install the python-pip package and then use the pip package manager to install the qrcode library.
[19:02] <astronaut> trism: Thanks, I'll try.
[19:02] <profiler1982> i know  that. there are any other differense
[19:03] <takis_GR> i have  this error boot screen. http://imagebin.org/216955 who can help me??
[19:03] <OerHeks> profiler1982, are there?
[19:03] <ryanprior> astronaut: or looks like trism found something good :-)
[19:03] <matthewlawson3> Anyone? My Windows Pcs are on the same network as my Ubuntu machine and they can access the Linux machine as long as the host name stays Ubuntu. When I change the hostname, however, then the Windows machine does not recognize the name change and does not access the machine, even after I restart it. Any ideas?
[19:03] <alchemist9> profiler1982: there isn't a suspend to disk mode in a wubi install..
[19:03] <profiler1982> am not find any
[19:03] <craigbass1976> Is there some equivalent to apt-get rollback?
[19:04] <OerHeks> no craigbass1976, unfortunatly
[19:04] <profiler1982> am using wubi several mounths
[19:04] <LjL> craigbass1976: no
[19:04] <craigbass1976> OerHeks, Balls...  Even for a single package?
[19:04] <profiler1982> bad eanglish sorry
[19:04] <LjL> craigbass1976: for a single package you can try doing apt-get install packagename=versionnumber
[19:04] <profiler1982> and i am first time here
[19:05] <matthewlawson3> How can I get Windows to resolve my new Ubuntu host name?
[19:05] <taddle> any info for me?
[19:06] <alchemist9> Nerf_Jihad: I don't think chatzilla likes to stay connected..
[19:06] <craigbass1976> LjL, any idea how I'd find my last version number?  I'm dealing with Oracle java.  I'm on build 1.7.0_05-b05 at the moment, but don't know what I was on a couple of hours ago.
[19:06] <LjL> craigbass1976: maybe you can find out from /var/log/dpkg.log
[19:06] <ryanprior> craigbass1976: check your dpkg log?
[19:06] <profiler1982> suspend to disc is working am using it. hibernacion is not
[19:06] <Meridious> matthewlawson3 what version on windows?
[19:07] <matthewlawson3> Meridious, Windows 7
[19:07] <profiler1982> write-read speed is slowly then normal instal
[19:08] <Meridious> matthewlawson3: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file should contain those resolutions
[19:08] <profiler1982> buta on saus eee pc on normal install apu temprature is 75
[19:08] <matthewlawson3> Meridious, My Windows Pcs are on the same network as my Ubuntu machine and they can access the Linux machine as long as the host name stays Ubuntu. When I change the hostname, however, then the Windows machine does not recognize the name change and does not access the machine, even after I restart it. Any ideas?
[19:08] <Meridious> matthewlawson3: you could add an entry to that
[19:08] <profiler1982> on wubi same
[19:08] <profiler1982> why so high
[19:08] <craigbass1976> On 6/14 I've got: oracle-java7-installer 7u5-0~webupd8~3 and today I've got oracle-java7-installer 7u5-0~webupd8~5.  Would I install 1.7.0_05-b03?
[19:08] <takis_GR> i have  this error boot screen. http://imagebin.org/216955 who can help me??
[19:09] <Meridious> matthewlawson3: adding a hostname resolution to a windows host file is pretty similar to adding one in ubuntu
[19:09] <matthewlawson3> ok I'll try it, hang on
[19:11] <Meridious> matthewlawson3: tell me if that works. If not, try entering ipconfig /flushdns into a cmd prompt
[19:11] <takis_GR> i have  this error boot screen. http://imagebin.org/216955 who can help me??
[19:12] <alchemist9> profiler1982: if need be you can install ubuntu on a usb HDD to solve the write speed delay, or even dual booting ubuntu with whatever version of windows you are running but if it's not broke don't mess with it :)
[19:12] <matthewlawson3> Meridious this is the first time I have edited hosts file in Windows. Where do I need to put the new line?
[19:13] <Meridious> i am 90% sure that the format is identical to *nix systems. Let me check on that
[19:14] <Meridious> matthewlawson3: the format is exactly the same. just put a new line with  <IP> <HOSTNAME>
[19:14] <matthewlawson3> Ok I just changed the host name in the linux machine to test this
[19:15] <matthewlawson3> Do I need to restart the machine before I test?
[19:15] <Meridious> matthewlawson3: doubt it
[19:15] <matthewlawson3> ok
[19:15] <Meridious> matthewlawson3: couldnt hurt though
[19:15] <matthewlawson3> how do I access the ip of this  computer via terminal?
[19:15] <Meridious> matthewlawson3: win or *nix
[19:16] <dysun> hi guys
[19:16] <dysun> i'm a linux noob
[19:16] <Meridious> hi there dysun!
[19:16] <dysun> do you have any good reading recommendations for me
[19:16] <dysun> to understand linux better
[19:16] <profiler1982> delay is not problem, there is not any
[19:16] <Meridious> sure do.
[19:16] <Meridious> one sec
[19:16] <profiler1982> but other people sa that
[19:17] <Meridious> dysun, http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/lpi/
[19:17] <Meridious> read over this stuff
[19:17] <takis_GR> i have  this error boot screen. http://imagebin.org/216955 who can help me??
[19:17] <profiler1982> am testing 11.10 wubi and 12.04 normal
[19:17] <profiler1982> is slice difference
[19:17] <Meridious> dysun: it will show you the basics
[19:18] <matthewlawson3> Meridious going to restart brb
[19:18] <dysun> Meridious: ok thanks for the recommendation
[19:18] <Meridious> dysun, if you want more, i have a decent cheat sheet i can pastebin
[19:18] <dysun> Meridious: sure. anything i can get my hands on
[19:19] <dysun> Meridious: it's just confusing with all the distros so i'm just trying out ubuntu
[19:19] <lily> hi
[19:20] <lupintheethird> how do you configure remmina remote desktop?
[19:20] <Meridious> dysun: ubuntu is a good starting place.
[19:21] <lupintheethird> actually i have a new issue with ubuntu, some reason windows get stuck like right now i cannot close out of this window, and the menu comes up but i cannot click on anything
[19:22] <Meridious> dysun: here is a cheat sheet i put together for a friend of mine
[19:22] <Meridious> dysun: http://pastebin.com/b8c8L2t9
[19:22] <lupintheethird> any ideas?
[19:23] <dysun> Meridious: cool thanks again for the help!
[19:23] <Meridious> dysun: no problem! I hope you grow to love linux as much as the rest of us
[19:23] <zykotick9> Meridious: "When you do get proficient at using VI, you become unstoppable." love it ;)
[19:24] <Meridious> zykotick9: lol its true
[19:24] <lupintheethird> does anyone know what would cause mouse clicking to become randomly inactive but still have control over my mouse
[19:25] <lupintheethird> it seems if i alt-tab and switch windows it resets something
[19:25] <Meridious> lupinthethird: sounds like your OS froze. Just log out and log back in is how i normally fix it
[19:25] <Meridious> lupinthethird: also, i love that show
[19:26] <lupintheethird> Meridious, it is great :)  , and the os didn't actually freeze just mouse clicking
[19:26] <lupintheethird> Meridious, and if i alt-tab change windows it comes back
[19:26] <lupintheethird> or if i press super i can get the menu but again no clicking
[19:26] <alchemist9> I wonder if it's possible to have a dual-screen console...
[19:27] <Meridious> lupinthethird: it may be a window selection thing. When your mouse freezes, are you clicking an applet or something like that?
[19:27] <lupintheethird> Meridious, now that i'm looking into it, when i over over an icon in the menu it doesnt even highlight
[19:27] <lupintheethird> Meridious, i dont think so?
[19:28] <Meridious> lupinthethird: i dont know how to fix that
[19:28] <Meridious> lupinthethird: its probably just a bug in unity
[19:29] <lupintheethird> Meridious, okay and do you know if installing cinnamon still messes things up?
[19:29] <matthewlawson3> Meridious I flushed DNS as well and still it is not changing the name. I cannot access the Linux machine on the Windows side however
[19:30] <conley> My startup is taking longer than usual after my latest update... what log files should I check for information?
[19:31] <Meridious> lupinthethird: each WM has its own idiosyncracies
[19:31] <Meridious> lupinthethird: but cinnimon is great. I am actually using it at the moment
[19:31] <AutoMatrix> Good evening fols
[19:31] <Meridious> matthewlawson3: hmmm
[19:31] <Meridious> matthewlawson3: I am running out of ideas :P
[19:31] <lupintheethird> Meridious, hmm do you have a proper way to install it without messing up anything else in ubuntu?
[19:32] <matthewlawson3> ok
[19:32] <kdmurray> Hi there -- I'm wondering if anyone can help with this question. I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to have a specific USB flash drive auto-mount to a specific folder when its attached to the system. The system is running Ubuntu 12.04 server, no GUI, headless.
[19:32] <matthewlawson3> I'll figure it out
[19:32] <matthewlawson3> Thanks though
[19:32] <AutoMatrix> hello people I got around here, please excuse if I do not strictly follow the rules, for the moment ;)
[19:32] <conley> kdmurray: You could write a little script
[19:32] <Meridious> lupinthethird: http://www.unixmen.com/howto-install-cinnamon-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[19:32] <hardworking> can someone help me .. please ?
[19:33] <lupintheethird> Meridious, good deal
[19:33] <conley> hardworking: what's wrong?
[19:33] <lupintheethird> Meridious, is that for the 1.4 up3?
[19:33] <AutoMatrix> As I have a Scammer on the hook of my fishing line, I wonder if somebody could help me to catch it and how ?
[19:33] <Meridious> matthewlawson3: sorry I could not be of more help
[19:33] <cannedheat> #bash
[19:33] <AutoMatrix> maybe send me the link of another site ?
[19:33] <hardworking> conley:  hello, I have the following setup:  host OS(ubuntu) , guest OS(windows7). Under guest OS I have a VPN client running. How can I make VPN stuff accesible through the host OS(Ubuntu) ? host OS has localnet ip-> 10.11.13.153    and guest OS has 3 interfaces:     10.1.191.42  ,      169.254.172.225,   10.0.2.15   .... How do I do this ?
[19:33] <Pici> AutoMatrix: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[19:33] <Meridious> lupinthethird: yes, or whatever is the most recent release
[19:34] <kdmurray> conley: Is there some kind of unique identifier that the USB devices would have that I could key off in the script?
[19:34] <Pici> !ot | AutoMatrix
[19:34] <AutoMatrix> Pici,  since I'm an ubuntu User ther could e a utility for my favourite distro
[19:34] <lupintheethird> Meridious, installing down thanks man
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> hardworking  set NAT to bridged, to make a logical bridge to your eisting network
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> existing*
[19:35] <conley> kdmurray: Well, there's UUID :)
[19:35] <Jordan_U> kdmurray: You could use the filesystem UUID (assuming that they're not going to write a new filesystem to the drive).
[19:35] <korsakof> hi everybody. I use acl to allow users to access /var/www/site1. but when the user1 create a new file, user1 is set as the owner of that file. Is there a way to force www-data to be the "unix" owner of the file?
[19:35] <AutoMatrix> tx Pici , I'm a bit further now, exept if you have hot another interesting thing for me ?? the name of a program or another link ?
[19:36] <hardworking> MonkeyDust: if I set it to Bridged then internet won't work anymore on the VM
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> hardworking  it's how i make it work in my virtual machines - have you tried?
[19:37] <hardworking> MonkeyDust: I'm gonna re-try
[19:37] <kdmurray> conley: OK, that works. I'll do some more digging. Would I be correct in assuming that the auto-mount in /media only works if you're in a graphical shell, and not from the CLI?
[19:37] <Pici> AutoMatrix: catching scammers doesn't have anything to do with channel, and frankly I don't know how there could be an application to help you do that.  If you want advice, I've already pointed you to a more appropriate channel.
[19:37] <kdmurray> Jordan_U: thanks for the tip.
[19:37] <baazigar> Hello, I have a game in c++/qt and i want to make it public so that it shows up on ubuntu software center and people can download it easily by sudo apt-get install. What is the procedure to do that?
[19:38] <Jordan_U> kdmurray: You're welcome.
[19:38] <Meridious> baazigar: http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/02/how-to-prepare-a-compiled-application-for-ubuntu-software-center/
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> baazigar  create a ppa and hope someone picks it up
[19:38] <conley> kdmurray: It's tied to gnome somehow. As far as I know, it's tied to the file manager, so you would be correct. But I'm sure there are cli programs that automount as well
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> baazigar  you may have put a vicious piece of code in it, so canonical won't accept it without testing
[19:39] <baazigar> MonkeyDust : what does picking up mean? and who does that?
[19:39] <baazigar> cannonical people?
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> baazigar  make it available somewhere, a blog or so
[19:39] <baazigar> and what if someone steals my code?
[19:39] <lupintheethird> Meridious, so far so good with the cinnamon install
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> baazigar  stealing is impossible, as it is GPL
[19:40] <korsakof> :)
[19:40] <Meridious> lupinthethird: glad to hear. I moved my toolbar up top though. felt weird with it on the bottom
[19:40] <conley> Also, icons just showed up on my desktop with the latest update... is this some unity setting or something?
[19:40] <baazigar> I mean  takes away my credit
[19:41] <baazigar> and puts it up under his name
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> baazigar  that's against the FOSS philosophy
[19:41] <lupintheethird> Meridious, just did that myself haha
[19:41] <fraterm> Someone stealth-forks it.
[19:42] <Lammerix> ?
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> baazigar  but better discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:43] <lupintheethird> Meridious, just set the top panel to 22 pixels looks nice, do you know a way to set the title bars to not have huge font and be so thick?
[19:43] <Lammerix> is this already a channel?
[19:44] <Pici> Lammerix: This? You're in the official Ubuntu support channel.
[19:44] <HardFu> i installed hearbeat on a ubuntu box, no problems when I run it,... but if i do crm_mon -1 i get: Connection to cluster failed: connection failed
[19:44] <baazigar> MonkeyDust : what do people get by opensourcing their code? even if the credits are snatched?
[19:44] <Lammerix> oh, haven't seen this kind of irc program... couldn't even see the users
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> baazigar  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic to find out
[19:45] <baazigar> MonkeyDust : joined
[19:45] <Meridious> not sure right now
[19:45] <roasted> OKAY, I'm back. After a continued headache with owncloud, I'm STILL looking for alternatives to it. Anybody?
[19:46] <Meridious> you could always modify the system fonts somewhere....
[19:46] <Lammerix> is there a channel for starters? i don't want to bother profis with my (for them stupid) question
[19:46] <ki4ro> anyone have any experience with the rotating cube?  Can't seem to get it going here
[19:46] <Meridious> Lammerix: #ubuntu-beginners
[19:47] <Meridious> Lammerix: but its usually vacant
[19:47] <DJones> Lammerix: This is the amin support channel, there's every level of question here
[19:47] <DJones> *main
[19:49] <hardworking> MonkeyDust: didn't work man..
[19:54] <creamteamthias> yo
[19:55] <Womkes> If I have a new disk with the following info in parted ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1047971/ ) and I just want to have one large parition but optimally aligned, do I first need to create a primary partition with certain alignment? If so, how do I do this I keep getting message that the partition is not optimally aligned.
[19:56] <takis_GR> i have  this error boot screen. http://imagebin.org/216955 who can help me??
[19:57] <Meridious> takis_GR: looks like it is not picking up your hard drive... Not that good at reading system messages
[19:57] <leprechau> takis_GR, it can't find your root filesystem
[19:57] <leprechau> what have you done to it lately?
[19:58] <takis_GR> and what can i do??
[19:58] <takis_GR> i am with live dvd and teamviewer
[19:58] <leprechau> takis_GR, is this a new install?
[19:58] <passov> hello every body
[19:59] <Meridious> hello passov
[19:59] <passov> quelqu'un de francais pour me guider ?
[19:59] <takis_GR> no
[19:59] <Pici> !fr | passov
[19:59] <leprechau> looks like from the top of the screen that it kernel paniced ... dumped a backtrace and then tried to drop to shell
[19:59] <takis_GR> is my brother pc and has ubuntu 10.04 about 6 months now
[19:59] <passov> thank
[20:00] <leprechau> takis_GR, have you tried rebooting it?
[20:00] <leprechau> or is that what you did to get here?
[20:00] <takis_GR> several times
[20:00] <khalid> bonjour
[20:00] <takis_GR> this error is all the time. my brother said me
[20:00] <takis_GR> *it
[20:01] <lerp> Hello, In sound settings there is an extra sound device "Built-in Audio" which keeps getting selected as the default sound device, however when this device is selected my sound doesn't work. I can select the other device and sound works fine. How can I stop my sound device from being changed or better yet remove the erroneous device that's showing up?
[20:01] <leprechau> well he has done something to it ... messed with the grub config or something it can't find the root fs
[20:02] <Rook> I think my laptop has a rootkit from its days as a Windows™ PC (that's what the antivirus claimed back when it had Windows™ XP on it).  When I try to install Ubuntu, the bootloader doesn't get installed.
[20:02] <leprechau> takis_GR, your best bet is going to be booting from a livecd to fix it
[20:02] <takis_GR> i have boot with live cd.
[20:02] <takis_GR> what can i do to fix it??
[20:02] <leprechau> takis_GR, you'll need to reinstall grub and re-generate the grub config
[20:03] <takis_GR> can you tell me how because now i am confused
[20:03] <takis_GR> grub-install /dev/sda?
[20:05] <Lammerix> okay, no ones talk in beginners channel
[20:05] <triad> ?
[20:05] <Lammerix> or they don't know how to restore grub after playing with it many hours
[20:05] <Lammerix> any experts of grub?
[20:06] <zykotick9> Rook: verify that there isn't an anti-virus setting in bios - if it's enabled, it will prevent MBR installs
[20:06] <Lammerix> GRUB 2.04 is gone, any help?
[20:06] <Meridious> reinstall
[20:06] <Rook> No AV setting in BIOS.  I checked thoroughly.
[20:06] <Meridious> no clue how grub works...
[20:06] <schultza> is there any way to check when a user was logged in for a time frame on linux?
[20:07] <ssta> last?
[20:07] <jeremiah> what is the channel for ubuntu 12.04?
[20:07] <schultza> he didnt record his hours last week and needs login times
[20:07] <ssta> jeremiah: this one
[20:07] <zykotick9> jeremiah: this one
[20:07] <jeremiah> ok.
[20:07] <ssta> schultza: last
[20:07] <jeremiah> tanks
[20:07] <Meridious> schultza: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-display-date-and-time-of-login/
[20:07] <Jordan_U> Lammerix: GRUB 2.04 hasn't been released yet (we're still on 1.99), what problem are you specifically having?
[20:07] <takis_GR> when try to mount /dev/sda1 then terminal freeze
[20:07] <leprechau> takis_GR, first you are going to want to make sure you have mounted your disk ... if you're using lvm or something you'll  have to import those as well
[20:08] <Meridious> schultza: http://bit.ly/MomLDd
[20:08] <Lammerix> Jordan_U it's a beta. I guess it came with Fedora
[20:08] <leprechau> takis_GR, then you'll want to chroot to your root fs ... grub-install --no-floppy /dev/sda .... then ... grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:08] <leprechau> or: update-grub on ubuntu
[20:09] <schultza> thanks.. it helps
[20:09] <Jordan_U> Lammerix: 2.00 beta4 then (not 2.04). What probelm are you having? Are you dual booting Ubuntu and Fedora?
[20:09] <Rook> Is it possible that this computer doesn't have a rootkit, but that the version of GRUB that comes with Ubuntu 12.04 is too new for the BIOS to use?
[20:09] <jeremiah> I am having graphics card driver problems. Ubuntu does not recognize it, even though when i type lspci it brings it up in the list. I have a Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M64-S [Mobility Radeon X2300]
[20:09] <jeremiah>  could someone tell me how to get drivers for it?
[20:09] <Meridious> Rook: possible, but highly unlikely
[20:10] <takis_GR> i cant mount partition sda1
[20:10] <Rook> It boots from the CD, just not from the SSD.
[20:10] <korsakof> Lammerix: maybe you could try to fix grub with the rescatux livecd..
[20:10] <korsakof> http://rescatux.berlios.de/wiki/Main_Page#Grub_options
[20:11] <lerp> Hello, In sound settings there is an extra sound device "Built-in Audio" which keeps getting selected as the default sound device, however when this device is selected my sound doesn't work. I can select the other device and sound works fine. How can I stop my sound device from being changed or better yet remove the erroneous device that's showing up?
[20:12] <korsakof> So the only way is to make a cron the chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www every 5 minutes? ugly!
[20:12] <kuser> hi all. problems with kde and gtk apps... is there a master? :)
[20:13] <mfilipe> what is the best solution to calendar in Ubuntu? I want something integrate with default clock calendar
[20:13] <kuser> i installed "kde-config-gtk" and "gtk2-engines-oxygen", set "oxygen-gtk" in "application appearance"....
[20:13] <Lammerix> OKAY, here's what I've done. first I installed Fedora with its grub 2 beta. It worked fine. Then i instlled Ubuntu 12.04 and the grub 1.99 came with it. so I had 2 grubs. 2 beta was the first one booting. it hasn't recognized Ubuntu. But 1.99 did recognize all OSs(I closed the 2 beta to see 1.99). after playing with 2 beta with grub customizer I lost it. Now I have only 1.99 with no Fedora in it!!! it just gone.
[20:13] <kuser> but gtk apps still looks ugly
[20:14] <Jordan_U> Lammerix: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo update-grub" from Ubuntu?
[20:15] <siverpro> anyone know why using nvidia-current on my system renders it completely unusable? everything just hangs, I have to use the noveau driver to get it working
[20:15] <Lammerix> okay, doing it again to be sure it's definitely not working.
[20:18] <kuser> anyone with kde?
[20:18] <Zally666> Gnome
[20:18] <Lammerix> Generating grub.cfg ...
[20:18] <Lammerix> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-generic
[20:18] <Lammerix> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-23-generic
[20:18] <Lammerix> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[20:18] <Lammerix> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[20:18] <FloodBot1> Lammerix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:18] <Lammerix> done
[20:18] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Lammerix
[20:18] <Rook> Kuser: LXDE as a rule.
[20:18] <Lammerix> sry
[20:18] <Meridious> kuser, sorry, using cinnamon
[20:19] <kuser> Meridious: thanks anyway :)
[20:19] <Jazire_> I  have a question regarding unstalling Wine completely from system
[20:20] <Lammerix> Jordan http://paste.ubuntu.com/1048016/
[20:22] <HardFu> I'm having problems with hearbeat
[20:22] <HardFu> crm_mon -1  gives me
[20:22] <HardFu> Connection to cluster failed: connection failed
[20:22] <adammw111> i can't get a usb hard drive to mount with udisks, i keep getting not authorised messages. what config files do i need to change to let me (non-root user but in adm/sudo/plugdev group) mount disks?
[20:23] <Jazire_> I have attempted uninstalling Wine, 4QWine and Winetricks from my system through the Software center but it does not do a complete uninstall.  then when Itry to reinstall, it creates wrong new directories.  Also, creates new programs that I want to reinstall...it's a mess
[20:24] <Rook> So...anyone think of any way we might address this rootkit issue?
[20:24] <Meridious> Rook, if you really want to make sure you didnt get rooted, format the HDD
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> Jazire_  maybe you have to delete some hidden .config file, too
[20:24] <adammw111> Jazire_, have you tried deleting your .wine folder? (this contains all your windows programs)
[20:24] <tira> exusme :)
[20:25] <tira> some one can help me?
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> tira  if you're sweet
[20:25] <Meridious> Rook, if you want something Tinfoil-Hat Tier, download DBAN
[20:25] <Jazire_> no, I am a new user and do not know what all I can do.  I don't even know how to find my Wine folder
[20:25] <haxxpop>  Does anyone know whether gtk+ bases on OOP?
[20:25] <jimmy51_> i've got a dell optiplex 990 with a radeon HD6450.  i boot to the livecd and install OK, but on reboot i get weird flashing.  i don't even see the grub menu at all.  if i hit ctrl-alt-del, i reboot so i'm sure something is running.
[20:25] <Jazire_> also, what associated folders do I delete and where
[20:25] <Meridious> jazire_:  ~/.wine
[20:25] <jimmy51_> if i remember the ati card and re-install, it boots fine.
[20:25] <adammw111> Jazire_, what have you done so far, and what are you trying to achieve?
[20:26] <jimmy51_> if i boot to the livecd, is there something i can do to tell the installed OS to use the same graphics options as the livecd?
[20:26] <tira> i have a problem with lazarus IDE on ubuntu 12.04
[20:26] <Jazire_> I want to delete everything so I can do a fresh install so that the wizard comes up
[20:26] <adammw111> the wizard for which program?
[20:26] <Jazire_> wizard to configure Q4Wine
[20:27] <kurtwp_> Jazire_: try " sudo find / -name .wine .print
[20:27] <kurtwp_> Jazire_: oop -print
[20:27] <kurtwp_> not .print
[20:27] <adammw111> I'm not sure how Q4wINE works, sorry
[20:28] <adammw111> so anyone know anything about udisks policykit or consolekit?
[20:28] <Jazire_> would  "-name"   be my user name?
[20:29] <kurtwp_> Jazire_: no leave it -name
[20:29] <Jazire_> ok ty
[20:29] <kurtwp_> Jazire_: however, ,wine fold might be in your /home/username -  just do a ls -al | more
[20:31] <Jazire_> Ideally what I want to do is restore my computer to an earlier date but I can find no backups!
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> Jazire_  when did you last make a backup?
[20:31] <adammw111> you do realise that wine is just windows apps, all your other linux apps aren't affected
[20:31] <Jazire_> I haven't...but my computer is set to do one every week
[20:31] <Jazire_> so where are they????
[20:32] <ant1-chr15t> hey guys i need some help i wanted to share my wifi connection via ethernet and it doesn't seem to be working i went into the ipv4 setting on the wifi and did Shared to other computers yet still nothing when i plug the other end into a windows desktop im working on
[20:33] <tira> haihaiahaiahaiaiaiaiahiaiaha
[20:33] <tira> akda
[20:33] <tira> hehehehehehehehehehe
[20:33] <tira> hehehehehe
[20:33] <ant1-chr15t> intresting person.... -_-
[20:33] <Zally666> Lol
[20:33] <ant1-chr15t> anyways it was a new install so im not sure whats up
[20:34] <skypce> http://www.unidockynapse.yzi.me/udn/ -> test my custom linux distro
[20:34] <ant1-chr15t> not sure if windows to blame "normally is"
[20:35] <Iszak> Does anyone know software that'll allow both git and svn support?
[20:35] <usr13> ant1-chr15t: Probably lacking dhcp
[20:35] <ant1-chr15t> hmm
[20:35] <Jazire_> brb, going to try those commands I was given
[20:35] <Zally666> Can i apt get install wifi ap radiosity?
[20:36] <usr13> ant1-chr15t: Maybe just need to manually set ip, gateway and nameserver
[20:36] <ant1-chr15t> indeed but its strange as it worked fine before
[20:36] <usr13> before _____________?
[20:37] <Zally666> Every bitmask confuscated
[20:37] <Jazire_> so do I do a del home/dakotah/.wine    ????
[20:37] <adammw111> rm
[20:37] <adammw111> altough move to trash is better
[20:38] <trashi> hi. i accidently removed /usr/share/themes and using xfce. anybody know how to restore?
[20:39] <guntbert> Zally666: where did you find that app? I find only graphics/raytracing under that name
[20:39] <afm> tried using qla-tools to rescan for some hba luns added.  it doesn't work on 3.X kernels…. anyone with another solution?  compile from source on the new kernel?
[20:39] <jeremiah> I am having graphics card driver problems. Ubuntu does not recognize it, even though when i type lspci it brings it up in the list. I have a Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M64-S [Mobility Radeon X2300]  could someone tell me how to get drivers for it?
[20:40] <Zally666> Guntbert idk
[20:40] <DJones> Zally666: http://alternativeto.net/software/radiosity/?platform=linux Suggest an app called Power Beat as an alternative for the windows app radiosity
[20:41] <adammw111> maybe your xorg.conf is set to use another driver?
[20:41] <adammw111> check your xorg.log file
[20:41] <DJones> Zally666: Although its not in the repo's
_  Can you tell me how to find home/dakotah/.wine  ?  I just can't find it...I"m too used to Windows and the dos form of directories, not used to seeing the home folder etc
[20:43] <adammw111> are you in a terminal or just on your desktop? in a terminal, you can type cd ~/.wine otherwise in your home folder on the desktop you can go ctrl+L and type ~/.wine as well
[20:43] <DJones> Zally666: Looking at it, powerbeat looks to be windows only as well
[20:43] <Jazire_> I have the terminal window open
[20:43] <Zally666> Dj im just chat on phone
[20:43] <Womkes> Is it normal behavious that 'hostname' only returns the name of the machine and not the Fully Qualified Domain name ?
[20:43] <adammw111> and you've backed up everything you've installed?
[20:43] <Womkes> behaviour
[20:44] <Womkes> on centos it returns the fqd
[20:44] <Womkes> but not on ubuntu
[20:44] <kuser> trying again... anyone with kde? :P
[20:44] <sarsaeol> Womkes: yes use hostname -f
[20:44] <Jazire_> no, don't know how
[20:44] <Womkes> ah thanks sarsaeol
[20:44] <sarsaeol> np Womkes
[20:45] <adammw111> ok, are you ok with losing any software you've installed then? if so type rm -rf ~/.wine
[20:45] <Zally666> But its remarkable a windows soft ap but no ubuntu one
[20:45] <Jazire_> yes, I'm ok with doing that
[20:45] <DJones> Zally666: I've got to go, but if radiosity was a streaming radio app, maybe thiis is a suitable alternative http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/radiotray
[20:46] <DJones> Zally666: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/radio-tray-online-radio-streaming-player.html
[20:46] <Jazire_> ok, did that
[20:47] <adammw111> ok, you can try dpkg-reconfigure wine or dpkg-reconfigure q4wine
[20:47] <Zally666> Thkx i guess thats what i want most radio :)
[20:48] <ratcheer> Tiktalik: Did you ever get your Network Manager working the way you wanted?
[20:48] <theding0> Looking for some help with Avast!
[20:48] <Meridious> theding0: Avast runs on ubuntu?
[20:48] <Jazire_> can I just go to the software center and reinstall them?
[20:49] <theding0> Meridious: Is that a sarcastic question?
[20:49] <guntbert> !who | Jazire_
[20:49] <Tiktalik> ratcheer: I don't mind having to start it manually, I just want my booting to take less long
[20:49] <Meridious> theding0: sort of. This is the ubuntu channel
[20:49] <Meridious> theding0: what is the problem?
[20:49] <Tiktalik> but it's alright
[20:49] <theding0> Meridious: Oh THAT's why it's called #ubuntu ...
[20:49] <Tiktalik> it boots faster than my old PC did
[20:50] <Jazire_> !tab adammw111  ok
[20:50] <DJones> Meridious: Avast is availabe for Ubuntu, not something I've used, but I know its there
[20:50] <Jazire_> lol
[20:50] <theding0> Anyways. Can anyone help me?
[20:51] <Meridious> DJones: for scanning mail i guess?
[20:51] <adammw111> has that solved your problem or are you still wanting the wizard?
[20:51] <matyika> Valaki magyar ubuntus? :(( valaki segítsen
[20:51] <Jazire_> I guess I'll give it a try
[20:51] <matyika> Valaki magyar ubuntus? :(( valaki segítsen
[20:51] <matyika> Valaki magyar ubuntus? :(( valaki segítsen
[20:51] <DJones> !english | matyika
[20:52] <matyika> i'm hungarian and sorry but don't speake verry good...
[20:52] <guntbert> !hu | matyika
[20:53] <arooni-mobile> i'm using screenlets on ubutnu 12.04; but i dont see an option for 'widget layer' in compiz settings as i did in the past... ideas?
[20:53] <theding0> Here is my problem if someone could help. When I run try to run Avast, I get the error /usr/bin/avast: 178: /usr/bin/avast: /usr/lib/avast4workstation/bin/avast: not found. Except it's there when I look in the file browser..
[20:54] <Meridious> theding0: try running it as a different user. The command avast probably is not in your bash profile
[20:54] <usr13> theding0: Avast?
[20:54] <matyika> i install Easypeasy Linux 1.6 and i select ATA...etc... winchaster and instal too... and SATA win. do not formated and... :-| SATA win. is not aviable :-|
[20:54] <grimley> ey up, has anyone had any experience of setting up xbox controllers under xubuntu 11.10
[20:54] <theding0> Meridious: I am the only user on this box
[20:54] <usr13> theding0: Why do you need Avast?
[20:55] <theding0> usr13: that doesn't matter. i just need help figuring out why it won't run
[20:55] <Meridious> theding0: tentatively try root.  elevate to root with  "sudo su -" to simulate a new login
[20:55] <Meridious> theding0: this should reload roots bash profile
[20:56] <zykotick9> Meridious: NEVER suggest "sudo su" it's WRONG.  "sudo -i" if you need to (and almost no one does).  theding0
[20:56] <Areckx> okay, I am having a serious problem with rotating my .mov video file from my iphone, usually I upload to youtube, and it fixes it for me, but I am having a ridiculous time roating it using avidemux ffmpeg, and mencoder, I keep on having the sound get changed... etc... All I want is to ROTATE IT
[20:57] <theding0> Meridious: didn't work
[20:57] <theding0> zykotick9: i had already typed it in
[20:57] <Meridious> zykotick9: got any reading material on the matter?
[20:57] <zykotick9> Meridious: nope...
[20:58] <Jazire_> ! tab adammw111 the dpkg-reconfigure command in the terminal is telling me  "must be run in the root"
[20:58] <Meridious> zykotick9: okay. Im gonna weigh your advice with some healthy research
[20:58] <Jazire_> geesh
[20:58] <theding0> Anything else I can do?
[20:58] <zykotick9> Meridious: whatever, it's ubuntu - do what you want.  it's not like it matters.
[20:58] <Jazire_> adammw111 the dpkg-reconfigure command in the terminal is telling me  "must be run in the root"
[20:59] <huismon> can anyone think of a good way to feed an array into create resources
[20:59] <huismon> instead of a hash?
[20:59] <grendal-prime> ok trying to route from one interface with ipv6 to second network card on ipv4 network
[21:01] <Meridious> zykotick9: alright then
[21:01] <Jazire_> anyone  I need to do a very clean uninstall of Wine, 4QWine and Winetricks so that the install wizard will come up...nothing is working so far.  Please help
[21:01] <guntbert> Meridious: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:02] <eutheria> can i make an encrypted volume with gparted?
[21:03] <HardFu> how can I allow all traffic in a subnet via iptables
[21:03] <Meridious> guntbert: thank you
[21:04] <guntbert> Meridious: you're welcome :-) scroll down to "special notes..."
 if any of you peeps need to upload a file use this: http://pile.io </plug>
[21:06] <malkauns> sweet!!: http://i.imgur.com/5ot4R.jpg
[21:07] <guntbert> tonyk: don't advertise
[21:07] <tonyk> sorry
[21:08] <eutheria> is there a UI to setup encrypted volumes?
[21:08] <guntbert> malkauns: what has that to do with ubuntu support?
[21:08] <Meridious> guntbert: so I am working as a linux admin intern, and my boss told me to use "sudo su -"
[21:08] <Meridious> guntbert: all RHEL or centos boxes; is there a reason for that?
[21:08] <exutux> your boss wrongs
[21:09] <Meridious> guntbert: is it a traditional thing? did sudo -i not exist at some point
[21:10] <guntbert> Meridious: when the root account is enabled there is not much difference and people where just used to using su - anyway
[21:10] <Meridious> exutux: while i assume that is true, he probably has a reason for it. I wanna know if it was  a ood one
[21:10] <guntbert> *people were
[21:10] <pietr> how often does the ubuntu keyserver update its entries? i've added a second identity to my key and sent it to the keyserver, but it only shows the primary identity...
[21:10] <theding0> So...how bout that help?
[21:11] <exutux> Meridious: try to use sudo su and type ps ax, you can see that there are 2 same process for su and 2 for bash
[21:11] <Zally666> Theding?
[21:11] <pietr> nevermind, it just updated it :)
[21:12] <exutux> Meridious: if you have root enabled you have ti use silmply su ( switch user )
[21:12] <exutux> to*
[21:12] <theding0> Zally666: are you offering to help or asking about my name?
[21:12] <exutux> this is in case your normal user isn't in sudoers
[21:12] <Meridious> exutux: so saying "sudo su -" is just being redundant?
[21:12] <exutux> Meridious: yeah off course
[21:13] <Meridious> exutux: learn something new everyday... Thanks man
[21:13] <exutux> Meridious: and set double enviroments
[21:13] <Zally666> Offering
[21:14] <guntbert> Meridious: did you read that page? The differences are stated there
[21:14] <exutux> Meridious: I see a lot of ( sudo su ) command suggest on network, but it's so bad
[21:14] <theding0> Zally666:  When I run try to run Avast, I get the error /usr/bin/avast: 178: /usr/bin/avast: /usr/lib/avast4workstation/bin/avast: not found. Except it's there when I look in the file browser..
[21:14] <exutux> !info avast
[21:14] <exutux> well
[21:15] <auronandace> theding0: do you need antivirus?
[21:15] <Meridious> guntbert: i skimmed tbh :$ I was wanting to absorb a bunch of different sources
[21:15] <theding0> auronandace: .....
[21:15] <exutux> theding0: I think there isn't no support here for external packages
[21:15] <guntbert> Meridious: pity - the info is right there - and it is noot opinion but facts :)
[21:15] <Meridious> exutux: what is the real harm aside from using sys resources to maintain another environment?
[21:16] <Zally666> Theding it cant find avast workstation site
[21:16] <auronandace> theding0: i didn't even know avast had a linux version
[21:16] <guntbert> Meridious: please drop that subject, it has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[21:16] <Meridious> guntbert: alright
[21:16] <Zally666> Since its not ther
[21:16] <theding0> auronandace: they do
[21:17] <theding0> Zally666: it is there. that's why I'm here...
[21:17] <Zally666> Copy that theding?
[21:18] <guntbert> !tab | Zally666
[21:18] <Zally666> The site doesnt exist anymore theding
[21:18] <auronandace> theding0: don't mean to disappoint you but i doubt you'll get help with it here, avast should offer you support
[21:18] <theding0> Zally666: I am looking at it
[21:19] <theding0> auronandace: where could I go on this server?
[21:19] <auronandace> !alis | theding0
[21:20] <auronandace> theding0: you ought to check avast's support avenues
[21:20] <Zally666> Theding looking at replacement viral since workstation is out of loop
[21:20] <auronandace> theding0: i'd be very surprised if they had a channel on this server
[21:21] <theding0> auronandace: yeah. its so frustrating watching people do it perfectly, but when I do it that error pops up
[21:24] <auronandace> theding0: avast4?
[21:24] <auronandace> theding0: the website says the current version is 7
[21:26] <theding0> auronandace: Linux Home Edition may be in a different version than Windows version
[21:28] <Jazire_> can anyone tell me...if I delete the icons at my sidebar, then delete any files I see on my computer...will that be enough to consider the program uninstalled?
[21:28] <ekaj> DHCP client ID is the IP you'd like your computer to be.. right?
[21:28] <ekaj> Jazire_: no
[21:29] <Jazire_> I have tried uninstalling it through the Software Center and it just won't do a clean uninstall
[21:30] <Jazire_> ekaj   I have done rm -rf ~/.wine and that hasn't gotten rid of everything
[21:31] <ekaj> Well, I have no idea how to do it, I was just saying that wouldn't delete everything. Have you consulted the all-powerful Google?
[21:31] <dmsuperman> Jazire_: That's probably because that's not the way you uninstall things like he said
[21:31] <dmsuperman> apt-get uninstall is the way you uninstall things in Ubuntu
[21:31] <SkippersBoss> Jazere_: there probably still be entrys in etc and usr as well
[21:32] <dmsuperman> if you didn't install it correctly / using apt, then it's different for each application
[21:32] <SkippersBoss> apt-get purge
[21:32] <ekaj> Well since people are here now... could anyone help me with some networking issues? =p
[21:32] <Pecker> How can I setup networkmanager to not try to manage a specific interface, and not have it go totally crazy?
[21:32] <L3top> !details | ekaj
[21:32] <ekaj> Yeah, I tried that last night for an hour and got nowhere
[21:33] <dmsuperman> You tried elaborating?
[21:33] <mcphail> Pecker: IIRC, network manager will ignore any interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:34] <tinker> test
[21:34] <Pecker> I tried that today, then it confused nm
[21:34] <Pecker> nm thought network link was on eth0 but in reality (and ifconfig showed it) it was on eth1
[21:35] <Zally666> Loopdevice
[21:35] <tinker> When updating a package using 'apt-get --reinstall install', the mtime on the executable doesn't change.  Is this date preserved from within the package when installed?
[21:37] <corvus_> How do you roll back Nvidia drivers to a previous version?
[21:41] <Bogdy> Ciao a tutti
[21:41] <ekaj> lubuntu 12.04 isn't picking up my DNS server (windows server 2k3) and Chromium keeps saying it cannot resolt the server's DNS address.. but my XP box that works uses the same info, and I put it exactly the same into lubuntu and it no work. (IP for lubuntu should be 10.0.0.12, DNS server 10.0.0.10, netmask 255.255.254.0, and gateway 10.0.0.10) and I have a domain, mydomain.local, but iunno if
[21:41] <ekaj> that'd make a difference or what.
[21:42] <ekaj> When I put all of that stuff into the connection, it no work.
[21:42] <Bogdy> chi e l'espert qua ? ;)
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> !it
[21:43] <Bogdy> ok thanks
[21:43] <ekaj> (I set those settings under "Manual")
[21:45] <iamaguestyo> ./join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:49] <siverpro> anyone know why using nvidia-current on my system renders it completely unusable? everything just hangs, I have to use the noveau for my system to work at all
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> siverpro  because the nvidia developers don't like linux
[21:50] <siverpro> i see.. might as well stick to the opensource drivers?
[21:51] <fishbait> 2 questions 1 how do i remove libre office? 2 what on earth were the captcha makers smoking?
[21:51] <ikonia> fishbait: open the package manager search for libreoffice, remove the packages
[21:51] <sam555> hello all!
[21:52] <sam555> what is the command to allow samba on the ufw?
[21:52] <fishbait> ah ty
[21:52] <sam555> this command  sudo ufw allow Samba is not working on ubuntu 12.04
[21:53] <sam555> what port does samba run on?
[21:53] <Monotoko> does anyone here know how to use squid and can take a look at my squid.conf? The official room seems dead and it's a really simple setup I'm trying to do
[21:53] <TheLordOfTime> !squid | Monotoko
[21:54] <TheLordOfTime> sam555:  did you try checking your samba configuration file?
[21:54] <ikonia> Monotoko: the channel can be quite active, you just have to wait, you've waited 5 - 6 minutes,
[21:54] <ekaj> Any idea why my ubuntu box isn't getting IP addresses from the DNS server I specified?
[21:54] <ikonia> Monotoko: I'm more than happy to take a look at your config though
[21:54] <TheLordOfTime> ^ that too
[21:55] <sam555> TheLordOfTime: i ended opening up the ports instead
[21:56] <Monotoko> ikonia, I'm just trying to set something up for a friend who can't access a web server... it's always worked, but now it's just giving her and me "access denied" and is driving me insane
[21:56] <Monotoko> I wasn't sure there would be anyone in there because of the time
[21:56] <ikonia> Monotoko: have you defined access lists ?
[21:57] <Monotoko> ikonia, I have defined an acl and allowed it through using http_access allow
[21:57] <Monotoko> above the http_access deny all... I've even tried removing that line
[21:57] <ikonia> Monotoko: right, so what is the pattern macthing on the ACL that hits him
[21:58] <Monotoko> ikonia, I've added the debug options... however in the cache.log nothing seems to be coming up... in the access.log it's just giving me a 403
[21:58] <ikonia> Monotoko: do you see him hitting in the access log ?
[21:59] <Monotoko> ikonia, yes I do
[22:00] <Monotoko> ikonia, the line is as follows: 1340056378.550      0 90.200.xxx.xxx TCP_DENIED/403 3852 GET http://195.60.188.37/ - NONE/- text/html
[22:00] <ikonia> Monotoko: ok, so that suggests your access list is wrong
[22:01] <Monotoko> ikonia, in my acl I have: acl medi src 195.60.188.37
[22:01] <Monotoko> since it was just one IP I didn't bother with a netmask...
[22:02] <ikonia> Monotoko: look at the error
[22:02] <ikonia> Monotoko: it's getting a git from 90.200.xxx.xx
[22:02] <ikonia> Monotoko: is that not the users IP ?
[22:02] <Monotoko> ikonia, that is the users IP... do I need to add their IP as well?
[22:03] <ikonia> Monotoko: yes you need to "allow" people or ip ranges to use your proxy
[22:03]  * Monotoko facepalms
[22:04] <Monotoko> thank you ikonia, great help!
[22:04] <ikonia> Monotoko: no problem
[22:06] <Pecker> How can I setup networkmanager to not try to manage a specific interface, and not have it go totally crazy?
[22:08] <iLogical> I have GNOME Shell installed, how do I turn it on? I have already this GNOME 3 thing, but it's not the whole GNOME Shell thing.
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> iLogical  logout, choose gnome shell, login
[22:10] <Monotoko> ikonia... am I right in thinking I just need to add the IP as an acl and allow that as well?
[22:10] <iLogical> MonkeyDust, There is 3 GNOME options, none of them says GNOME Shell
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> iLogical  try the one that wasnt there before you installed gnome shell
[22:10] <iLogical> I am using GNOME 3 though, but the fall back version maybe
[22:11] <ekaj> Where is dhclient.conf?
[22:11] <iLogical> MonkeyDust, I have tried it already
[22:12] <Pecker> ekaj: /etc/dhcp
[22:12] <JohnTeddy> This might be a browser question.. but if I have a laptop with an extra monitor.. if I'm playing a youtube video and try to full screen it... it _only_ opens in the extra monitor.. I can't get it to open in my laptop screen. How can I get it to open in my laptop screen? I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 with stock software.
[22:12] <vjacob> hiya! any of you know why I might have three "dictionary" menu items, two "screensaver" settings, (I can give additional examples) ? (Running Ubuntu precise)
[22:13] <ekaj> Pecker: do I use dhcp3 or just dhcp?
[22:13] <Pecker> not sure, try dhcp
[22:13] <ekaj> thanks
[22:13] <Pecker> JohnTeddy: fullscreen videos seem to play on the primary monitor, in my experience
[22:14] <JohnTeddy> Pecker: Where do I set the primary monitor variable?
[22:15] <iLogical> MonkeyDust, :'-(
[22:15] <Cerrdor> How would I set up a user account on my server 11.04 and allow them su but only in their account not server wide?
[22:15] <Pecker> go to display, see which monitor is set as primary
[22:16] <wwd> Hi folks, I am trying to confiure round robin interface bonding on two virtual nice (in vmware) guest OS is 10.04LTS. I am able to get the expected performance out of the bonded interface with failover, however, load balancing does not seem to be working, the load (which isn't maxed out) is not split over both interfaces… I have tried this in both bond mode 0 round robin and bond mode three 3 xor, I have proper connectivity in all modes, just not the
[22:16] <wwd> expected 50% load on both interfaces, rather 100% load on just one interface
[22:16] <Cerrdor> wowza
[22:17] <iLogical> MonkeyDust, I have graphics card acceleration
[22:17] <lucylikeslinux> i need some help, i'm new to using ubuntu/linux. trying to install Tor, but as i extracted it I got an error exit code 127... anyone know how to install Tor on ubuntu?
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> iLogical  you mentioned both gnome shell and fallback mode
[22:17] <iLogical> i have it installed
[22:17] <Cerrdor> lucylikeslinux: are you installing as su?
[22:17] <ekaj> What's te copy command..?
[22:17] <lucylikeslinux> sorry, whats su?
[22:18] <iLogical> but it doesn't turn the GNOME Shell, only the fallback version I guess
[22:18] <JohnTeddy> Pecker: I don't see a the word 'primary' anywhere in the display section.
[22:18] <toxictux> lucylikeslinux: su opens a root level terminal session within bash
[22:18] <iLogical> MonkeyDust, maybe my hardware doesn't support it, how can I know?
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> iLogical  what three options do you see?
[22:18] <chu> lucylikeslinux: su is the "super user" like root. Since, your user account only has access to their home directory, su (sudo, root, etc) has write access to the whole system.
[22:19] <lucylikeslinux> how do i get to the terminal in this system? >_<
[22:19] <iLogical> 1. GNOME 2. GNOME Classic 3. GNOME Classic (Recovery Mode)
[22:19] <iLogical> something like that
[22:19] <chu> lucylikeslinux: What are you running, just the standard Ubuntu 12.04 install?
[22:19] <Cerrdor> lucylikeslinux: should be under system
[22:19] <lucylikeslinux> yes 12.04 LTS
[22:20] <Vooloo> how can I check why my computer shut down?
[22:20] <chu> lucylikeslinux: Should be as simple as Alt+F2 then type in gnome-terminal
[22:20] <mputtr> you should be able to just click the dash and type terminal
[22:20] <lucylikeslinux> alt f2 worked!
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> iLogical  logout and watch, 'something like that' is not valid
[22:20] <k1l> lucylikeslinux: ctrl+alt+t is the shortcut
[22:20] <iLogical> ok
[22:21] <qubuntu> Whenever I lock my Ubuntu laptop and then I log back in the screen automatically goes blank. I have to double-click "Display off" button on by laptop and at the same time increase brightness to full from my laptop. Then the display works. Anyone know what causes this? :|
[22:21] <lucylikeslinux> so I got to terminal, thank you. what can I do now to get it to install?
[22:22] <mputtr> sudo apt-get install (insert program name)
[22:22] <Cerrdor> lucylikeslinux: sudo apt-get install tor
[22:22] <lucylikeslinux> oh thank you Cerrdor
[22:22] <Cerrdor> np
[22:23] <NastyNaz> how do I unrar an archive from the terminal?
[22:23] <ekaj> Is there a way to just restore all of my network settings (connections, dhclient.conf, etc) to their original states?
[22:23] <qubuntu> Has Ubuntu worked perfect out of the box for anyone?
[22:23] <chu> Yep
[22:23] <Cerrdor> ekaj: google each file modified and restore it
[22:23] <Your_Dog> yes
[22:23] <Cerrdor> qubuntu: yurp
[22:24] <Vooloo> my ubuntu just shut down, how can I see what caused it?
[22:24] <ekaj> I just can't get my DNS server to work, any idea why?
[22:24] <qubuntu> ok thanks Cerrdor
[22:24] <iLogical> MonkeyDust, GNOME, GNOME Classic, GNOME Classic (No effects)        I've choosen GNOME Classic now, and I am thinking in sticking with it
[22:25] <Cerrdor> Vooloo: tail -f /var/messages/syslogs
[22:25] <Cerrdor> I think
[22:25] <Vooloo> Cerrdor: cant find anythere there
[22:25] <Vooloo> anything*
[22:25] <Cerrdor> Vooloo: tail -f /var/messages/logs
[22:25] <exutux> Cerrdor: /var/log/messages
[22:26] <Cerrdor> thar we be
[22:27] <exutux> or /var/log/syslog
[22:27] <Vooloo> nothing
[22:27] <lucylikeslinux> @Cerrdor how to I find it once its done? it didn't start automatically...
[22:27] <Vooloo> if the user sent shutdown command through GUI will it show there?
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> iLogical  nice, but got to go now, cheers
[22:29] <Cerrdor> lucylikeslinux: check your PM
[22:33] <Guest42157> I am trying to chroot but I keep getting chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory I have tried cp over and creating a folder called /bin but I still keep getting this issue
[22:34] <exutux> Guest42157: are you using a live cd?
[22:34] <Guest42157> yes
[22:34] <exutux> Guest42157: 32bit?
[22:34] <jeremiah> Could someone help me figure out why minecraft no longer works for me? i closed it, then restarted it, and got an error message
[22:34] <Guest42157> yes
[22:34] <exutux> Guest42157: and installed system is?? 64bit?
[22:34] <Vooloo> anyone know the line in the log that tells the system to shut down?
[22:36] <Guest42157> no I have a working system that is installed but I am running off of a live cd and mounting the harddrive then I wanted to chroot to some folders on the harddrive that was mounted
[22:36] <Guest42157> can you not just change root into any folder?
[22:36] <exutux> Guest42157: yeah but if installed system that you tryng to chroot is 64bit it doesn't run
[22:37] <jeremiah>  Could someone help me figure out why minecraft no longer works for me? i closed it, then restarted it, and got an error message  -http://pastebin.com/WtPA9XFV
[22:37] <exutux> you're mounting HD that has 64bit
[22:37] <Guest42157> no both are 32 bits
[22:37] <exutux> uhmmm
[22:39] <exutux> Guest42157: I'm pretty sure that this erros is getting when you try to use a 32bit live cd for chroot an HD that has 64bit OS installed
[22:39] <Guest42157> also why wouldn't chroot allow you to change from one 32 to 64 now that you mention it seems like this doesn't have any effect on being able to move the root point to another places
[22:40] <exutux> or viceversa...
[22:41] <nsadmin> Guest42157, kernel would have to support 64 bit bins
[22:41] <Guest42157> my understanding of chroot is all it does it move the / to be some where else like chroot /hellothere would move the / to be equal to using /hellothere
[22:41] <exutux> .....
[22:41] <nsadmin> Guest42157, that's right... and, the kernel would have to support the bins
[22:41] <Jordan_U> Guest42157: The new root needs to contain executables and libraries.
[22:42] <Guest42157> but even so if 64 or 32 bit is an issue then in my case I am not even useing any 64bit system so this cann't be the cause like you are saying
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Guest42157: What is your end goal?
[22:42] <Guest42157> to chroot
[22:42] <nsadmin> what is your end goal in chrooting?
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Guest42157: That's a very odd end goal.
[22:43] <Pecker> How can I setup networkmanager to not try to manage a specific interface, and not have it think th ewrong interface is the one to not manage?
[22:43] <Bogdy>  /join #ubuntu-it
[22:43] <Guest42157> what binaries would one need just the /bin/bash I can copy that over somewhere
[22:44] <Jordan_U> Guest42157: Does using the chroot command intrinsically make you happy? Are you trying to learn something? Are you trying to rescue a broken system?
[22:44] <shevy> Guest42157, usually bash requires shared libraries, unless you compiled it statically
[22:44] <exutux> Guest42157: you writing in #ubuntu-it channel ....
[22:44] <Guest42157> ok so then what is the minimal mount of stuff I need
[22:45] <Guest42157> I cann't just copy over /bin/bash your telling me so then what how is this command going to ever work
[22:45] <shevy> Guest42157 either you compile it statically, and use that within your chroot. or you provide all .so files that bash needs (and the other .so) into your chroot
[22:46] <shevy> perhaps there is a third way, no idea
[22:46] <Guest42157> then only thing I can do is sudo chroot / other then that I cann't do anything
[22:46] <shevy> ldd /bin/bash
[22:47] <linxeh> a friend has ubuntu 12.04 installed, and gets this http://fs.ilegendsoft.com/files/20120619c5a1a1ea313644f9bb1455545e96f9a9.jpg after an upgrade. I've never used a GUI on my ubuntu boxes so I'm a bit at a loss as to why that happened. any ideas?
[22:48] <morsnowski> linxeh, try ctrl-alt-t then audo gnome-panel
[22:48] <morsnowski> sudo
[22:49] <jeremiah>  Could someone help me figure out why minecraft no longer works for me? i closed it, then restarted it, and got an error message  -http://pastebin.com/WtPA9XFV
[22:49] <linxeh> morsnowski: ok thanks
[22:50] <Guest42157> maybe if I create some symlinks but then again I am not sure what I need to get chroot to work ... I do know how to create symlinks to stuff if this is an option
[22:50] <mcphail> jeremiah: that isn't on-topic in this channel
[22:50] <linxeh> morsnowski: you'd need to use sudo with it ?
[22:50] <jeremiah> mcphail, so, witch channel deals with it?
[22:51] <morsnowski> give it a try
[22:51] <emobathtub> I need help setting up a domain name for my desktop
[22:51] <mcphail> jeremiah: no idea, but not here. Minecraft is not part of ubuntu
[22:51] <linxeh> he went from 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04. in the mean time he had issues with graphics and foolishly deleted /etc/X11 (!?!). I've since restored that as best as I can
[22:51] <morsnowski> get him to do a fresh install!
[22:51] <fire_> i have a problem i cant see all the available options in fullscreen mode on firefox
[22:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:52] <linxeh> heh
[22:52] <jeremiah> mcphail, but, it deals with ubuntu java, lwjgl, and a how bunch of other things. i have asked questions like this before, no prob to anybody
[22:53] <linxeh> morsnowski: ok, that got the menus up etc. I dont think he wants to reinstall. he's talking about buying windows home server :o
[22:53] <morsnowski> tell him to get alive
[22:53] <wwd> Hi folks, I am attempting to setup link aggregation in a virtual enviro for testing purposes. I am using interface bond0 with slaves eth2 and eth3, I am using bond mode 0 (round robin) and am monitoring bond0, eth2 and eth3 with jnettop, i am also wgeting an extremely large file down from the inter webs, expecting to see traffic on eth2 + eth3 = bond0, but what I am seeing is all the traffic only going to one eth interface. So load-balancing doesn't seem t
[22:53] <Guest42157> I do have these dependencies though I am not sure if those are the only things I need for chroot as well as creating symlinks http://pastebin.com/uMH16Ewv
[22:53] <wwd> work. However, if i disable either nic and leave the other enabled, all traffic switches to that link… so my question is whats up? Does load balancing only kick in when one NIC is fully saturated?
[22:53] <linxeh> morsnowski: :)
[22:53] <jeremiah> mcphail, but, it deals with ubuntu java, lwjgl, and a how bunch of other things. i have asked questions like this before, no prob to anybody
[22:54] <morsnowski> linxeh, he is better off to do a fresh install than messing around with updated updates
[22:54] <domino14> where is /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit in precise?
[22:55] <mcphail> jeremiah: this is one of the busiest channels on freenode. Please remain on topic. If you have a problem with java in ubuntu just ask. Do not ask about proprietary software which runs on java and is not part of Ubuntu.
[22:55] <mputtr> question: when I use sudo shutdown now, it looks like ubuntu is stuck on the shutdown process.... did i do something wrong  by chance?
[22:55] <vjacob> hiya! any of you know why I might have three "dictionary" menu items, two "screensaver" settings, (I can give additional examples) ? Running Ubuntu precise
[22:55] <mputtr> i'm looking at a purple screen that says ubuntu and 4 orange dots, 1 white dot... and it looks like it's stuck there
[22:55] <jeremiah> mcphail, mph.
[22:56] <mcphail> mputtr: "sudo shutdown -h now" to halt
[22:56] <mputtr> done
[22:56] <mputtr> and... it shuts down...
[22:56] <Guest42157> I am sure there is other things like /dev /proc ,...etc this was more of an exercise in trying to change root into a random directory but maybe the only chroot are mostly of the type changing LFS or filesystem / iso distro that already has that structure... though in theory you should beable to chroot to any directory you want of course one would need to know the min requirements to change to a random directory. Anybody know more a
[22:56] <Guest42157> bout this
[22:56] <mputtr> did i screw up the command somewhere?
[22:56] <mputtr> if i just want it to shut down?
[22:57] <mcphail> mputtr: i think you missed out the "-h" flag
[22:57] <mputtr> i c...
[22:57] <mputtr> so the -h flag tells it to shut down all the way?
[22:57] <morsnowski> -h halt
[22:57] <mcphail> mputtr: yes. "-r" would reboot, etc
[22:57] <mputtr> what happens when there are no flags in it?
[22:57] <domino14> hey guys - i have no idea where to put swapon commands to run at startup under 12.04
[22:58] <mputtr> shouldn't it still just go all the way? or does it get stuck somewhere?
[22:58] <domino14> this site tells me to put them in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit but ubuntu doesnt have htat
[22:58] <JeSuisMaudit> !list
[22:58] <fire_> i have a problem i cant see the bar in fullscreen mode when i see videos
[22:59] <morsnowski> morsnowski -h now
[22:59] <mcphail> mputtr: shutdown and power-off are different things
[22:59] <mputtr> ohhh ok
[22:59] <mputtr> i had no idea... i've got very limited knowledge of linux in general..
[22:59] <mcphail> mputtr: if you don't want to use the "-h" flag just press your power button when the shutdown process finishes
[23:00] <mputtr> so the next time, i should use sudo power-off?
[23:00] <mcphail> mputtr: shutdown -h now willd o the power off for you
[23:00] <mputtr> got it. i'll do that next time
[23:00] <mputtr> i've got several metric tons of stuff to learn about linux and ubuntu :P
[23:01] <Guest42157> ok does anybody know if the chroot command is only meant to change to an already linux self contained file system or can one change to an arbitrary folder useing chroot without creating or being in the process of creating LFS
[23:01] <Corey> Guest42157: You can do a number of things with chroot, yes.
[23:01] <mcphail> mputtr: that's part of the fun ;)
[23:01] <Corey> It doesn't presuppose you're running an OS within it.
[23:02] <mputtr> mcphail: lol.. maybe when i know enough to be able to dig around... but for a beginner... learning linux is like getting hit by a spike bat between the nether-regions
[23:02] <Guest42157> so the how can I clear this error up chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[23:02] <domino14> where do i put swapon commands for init?
[23:02] <mputtr> but i'm here to learn...  :P
[23:02] <domino14> please help
[23:02] <mcphail> mputtr: remember to have a quick look at the man page for a command and you won't go far wrong
[23:02] <Cottus> domino14, /etc/fstab  ( man fstab)
[23:03] <mputtr> mcphail: i've saved a few sites to learn linux.. i'll just have to follow the lessons there :)
[23:04] <Andril> hello all
[23:05] <Andril> anyone using ASUS EAH6450 Radeon HD 6450 with Ubuntu
[23:08] <fwiss> Hello, #ubuntu pals, I have a strange problem(s). You see, a few days ago my cursor was stuck in a strange cursor. I could move it, but the taskbar and any programs wouldn
[23:09] <fwiss> 't react
[23:09] <fwiss> I tried Alt+F4 and all that
[23:09] <fwiss> Now today I noticed something strange with my mouse. Whenever I try to drag something there's a lag
[23:09] <Jordan_U> Guest42157: Chroot is not intended for arbitrary directories, no.
[23:10] <Lunar_Lander> good evening, I got a cardreader in my PC and last week it accepted a SD card without problems, but now it won't read a Sony SDHC card
[23:10] <Jordan_U> Guest42157: Why do you want to use chroot? What is your end goal?
[23:10] <Lunar_Lander> any method to check the cardreader, i.e. if it is recognized by ubuntu?
[23:10] <fwiss> Not a 'my computer is slow' lag, but I have to hold my mouse button down and hover over what I want to drag for a few seconds
[23:10] <fwiss> and then I can drag it
[23:11] <fwiss> A few minutes ago, my mouse got stuck on what I believe was the 'dragging' cursor.
[23:11] <fwiss> I had to run kill on Xorg to restart it
[23:11] <jayson1> Hey all, I'm facing an 'install the base system' error whilst trying to install ubuntu 12.04 from a usb to a micro sd. Anyone's faced a similar problem before
[23:11] <fwiss> I could still move my mouse
[23:12] <Jordan_U> Lunar_Lander: First thing I would try would be "sudo parted -l" to see if the card is seen as a drive, if it's not then you can try "lsusb" or "lspci" to see to see if it's being detected at any level, and maybe look at "dmesg" before and after inserting a car / plugging in the reader itself (if it's removable).
[23:12] <z1nnGh05t> hello all
[23:12] <fwiss> Any idea why I get these freezes? Or where the log files are? I believe I glanced a 'broken pipe' error upon Xorg's restart.
[23:12] <Jordan_U> jayson1: Is that the only error message you see?
[23:12] <Lunar_Lander> thanks Jordan_U it is an onboard reader will try that now
[23:12] <Guest42157> if it is a card reader from a usb port you could lsusb to see it stuff and then look for a module lsmod then look to see if it is mounted
[23:13] <scar3crow> anybody have the time to help me setup my quake server?
[23:14] <Guest42157> anyway what was before chroot I see by the man page it copyright was 2009 ish copyright date so what would you use to do the equivalent before hand
[23:14] <scar3crow> (crashes when I start multiplayer)
[23:14] <Guest42157> i.e before chroot
[23:14] <Lunar_Lander> Jordan_U, Guest42157 I am afraid the card reader as such isn't recognized
[23:14] <fwiss> Anybody know where the Xorg log files are so I can look over it since my X froze as I described above?
[23:15] <Lunar_Lander> as lspci doesn't return anything that looks like it
[23:15] <jayson1> Jordan_U: Debootstrap warning: Failure while unpacking required packages
[23:15] <Jordan_U> Guest42157: I don't understand your last comment. Could you please rephrase it?
[23:15] <scar3crow> fwiss: try looking in /etc/X11
[23:16] <Cottus> scar3crow, no, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:16] <Guest42157> I am just wondering what command people would use before chroot was around
[23:16] <scar3crow> ok, my bad
[23:16] <Cottus> scar3crow, /etc is for configuration files only
[23:16] <Jordan_U> jayson1: Did you do an md5sum check of the iso before putting it on the USB drive?
[23:16] <Bogdy> sorry for chat IT ?
[23:16] <fwiss> I'm in the /etc/X11.
[23:16] <fwiss> What do?
[23:17] <scar3crow> ty for the correction Cottus
[23:17] <Cottus> np
[23:17] <scar3crow> sak Cottus
[23:17] <crazybrain> what does that mean "suid priv-dropping disabled.This may not be secure"
[23:18] <OerHeks> Lunar_Lander, try lsusb, most cardreaders use an internal usb-socket
[23:18] <fwiss> What are the error logs called?
[23:19] <scar3crow> fwiss: Cottus is right, look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ;)
[23:20] <fwiss> Xorg.0.log or Xorg.1.log?
[23:20] <scar3crow> look @ both
[23:20] <ANT1-CHR15T> i would like to thank whoever helped me
[23:21] <ANT1-CHR15T> but it didnt work
[23:21] <Lunar_Lander> OerHeks, that is my result of lsusb
[23:21] <ANT1-CHR15T> turned out it was just ubuntu
[23:21] <Lunar_Lander> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1048288/
[23:21] <scar3crow> fwiss: 1 is prolly more recent
[23:21] <ANT1-CHR15T> needed reinstall for some odd rreason
[23:21] <cannedheat> Nice to see something in this # that is not ArchLinux. OK I am on Debian but still a ton of Arch here.
[23:22] <scar3crow> big thank you to the devs for making 12.04 rock!
[23:22] <wwd> Hi folks, I am attempting to setup link aggregation in a virtual enviro for testing purposes. I am using interface bond0 with slaves eth2 and eth3, I am using bond mode 0 (round robin) and am monitoring bond0, eth2 and eth3 with jnettop, i am also wgeting an extremely large file down from the inter webs, expecting to see traffic on eth2 + eth3 = bond0, but what I am seeing is all the traffic only going to one eth interface. So load-balancing doesn't seem t
[23:22] <wwd> work. However, if i disable either nic and leave the other enabled, all traffic switches to that link… so my question is whats up? Does load balancing only kick in when one NIC is fully saturated?
[23:24] <cannedheat> wwd wwwuuut?
[23:24] <scar3crow> anyone else experiencing quakespasm crashes?
[23:25] <jayson1> Jordan_U: Any idea where I can find the md5sum of the iso so that i have something to compare against
[23:25] <Jordan_U> !md5sums | jayson1
[23:26] <z1nnGh05t> halo
[23:27] <cannedheat> dtmf buzzzzing sound
[23:28] <fwiss> No errors in either logs, Only warnings are that it can't find a font
[23:28] <fwiss> and something about probe method. Anywhere I can look, maybe some sort of Synaptics log?
[23:28] <Cottus> fwiss, ~/.xsession-errors?
[23:28] <fwiss> Oh, haven't checked thta one.
[23:28] <fwiss> in /home/
[23:29] <fwiss> ?
[23:29] <Cottus> fwiss, ~ stands for 'home/username'
[23:29] <z1nnGh05t> my windoze committed seppiku when i tried to dual boot debian,needless to say it left me with no OS all i had was an ubuntu 10 livecd i upgraded to 12 this is my first few dayz of ubuntu
[23:29] <fwiss> Yes
[23:29] <fwiss> Well I can't find it.
[23:30] <Cottus> fwiss, it might not be there at all
[23:30] <fwiss> There it is.
[23:30] <Guest42157> never mind chroot has always pretty much been around Version 7 Unix in 1979
[23:30] <Guest42157> just have to figure out how to use it :)
[23:30] <fwiss> OK, definitely something there.
[23:32] <laserbled> Hi, if I need to run a module for 2.4 kernel and if my current kernel is 2.6....should I install that kernel and boot into it to run this code or can I download the source and do it without rebooting ?
[23:32] <jayson1> ubottu: Thanks
[23:32] <jayson1> Jordan_U: Yup the hashes match. Any pointers as to how I might be able to fix the error
[23:32] <fwiss> Any ideas what keywords to grep for for a mouse stuck on the drag cursor?
[23:33] <Jordan_U> laserbled: Don't even try to use a module for a 2.4 kernel with Ubuntu, it's not possible.
[23:33] <Jordan_U> laserbled: What is your end goal?
[23:34] <fwiss> Huh, .xsession-errors and its .old counterpart have two different things
[23:35] <laserbled> Jordan_U,  I need to check a network device driver for 2.6 kernel.....am now on 3.2, but when I make it it gives me a couple of errors .. http://pastebin.com/1WBqJjvz .. priv is not a member. I am wondering if it is a kernel issue and so wanted to check in the other version
[23:37] <Jordan_U> laserbled: What do you mean "check a network device driver"? Why are you building a module at all? Does this ethernet card not work with Ubuntu by default?
[23:37] <fwiss> Well, see ya'all later!
[23:37] <fwiss> (C)
[23:38] <barnex> Hi. My volume seems to be locked for no apparent reason (The multimedia keys on keyboard don't work, the 'mute' and volume scroll in the indicator are both disabled).
[23:38] <laserbled> Jordan_U, Am trying to learn making a simple device driver
[23:38] <laserbled> this is the simplest code I could find
[23:38] <barnex> What have I done wrong?
[23:38] <laserbled> *network device driver
[23:39] <Relondo> I used the terminal to install Wine with "sudo apt-get install wine", and walked away while it downloaded. I returned, and found an EULA for "TrueType core fonts for the web" in my terminal. I assume this is part of Wine, so how can I accept the EULA from inside the terminal?
[23:40] <laserbled> Jordan_U, I wanted to use this as a template to write more code and then play around with it...but this giving make errors. I dont know the reason
[23:40] <barnex> http://minus.com/lBIB7UIs6HCD9 - screenshot of the volume indicator applet having volume control disabled
[23:40] <Jordan_U> laserbled: You should probably download the kernel source and find an existing driver. The internal interfaces to for the linux kernel change *very* frequently.
[23:42] <roxxo> what's the recommended way to debug ubiquity crashes? i.e. the installer just disappears. -d logs progress to /var/log/installer, but that doesn't really give a traceback or anything
[23:42] <Guest42157> sudo apt-cache pkgnames lists all the packages on the system however is there a command to list all packages in the repository you can download or at least create a list of every possible package in the repo's of apt-get?
[23:43] <laserbled> Jordan_U, So you are saying if at all I am to run this code I rather do it on a different install of older kernel because if I try to put it in my current install it will break ?
[23:43] <Guest42157> I can add repo's with apt-add-repository but I don't see a command other then doing a search on apt-cache search *.* or something like that
[23:44] <Jordan_U> laserbled: I'm saying that you should probably forget this code and look instead at code which is actually part of the linux kernel upstream.
[23:44] <Jordan_U> laserbled: But this is offtopic for #ubuntu, maybe try ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic.
[23:45] <barnex> I can still control the sound using the 'sound' app. Tried restarting pulseaudio
[23:46] <laserbled> Jordan_U, ok, thanks for the info
[23:46] <Guest42157> well apt-cache search "need some general pattern that doesn't filter any packages that will work "
[23:46] <Jordan_U> laserbled: You're welcome.
[23:49] <Guest42157> does anybody know of away to list all packages in a ubuntu repo with apt-cache search
[23:52] <DanMD> Hi there everyone :), anyone have some issues with the dpkg --instdir option? I have a folder that I can chroot into but for some reason I cannot just use dpkg --instdir on it... any reason why?
[23:54] <datacrusher> my pulseaudio stopped starting automatically. if i call pulseaudio from the terminal I have sound back again, how do I fix this?
[23:55] <datacrusher> also, my battery widget has gone
[23:55] <datacrusher> network and date / clock are still here
[23:56] <Guest42157> I know you can do it with the gui front end tools like synaptic and control center but I was wondering there should be any equivalent to the terminal apt-cache search
[23:57] <iLogical> fglrx doesn't seems to enable GNOME Shell for me. I am trying to install proprietary drivers but i get this error: http://pastebin.com/8vdnd0FS
[23:57] <Aaton> I seem to have a problem with network installing 12.04. Instead of rebooting when its finished it runs the preseed/late_command again. which fails because /target is already unmounted
[23:59] <datacrusher> looking into gconf-editor desktop>gnome>sound esd is set to true
[23:59] <jayson1> Debootstrap warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target /sbin/ldconfig -> This is whilst trying to install ubuntu 12.04 server. Any pointers, anyone? cheers
[23:59] <datacrusher> but yet still pulseaudio wont open automatically